isle-lore-theories

[meager junco]

I mean they all had crazy mouths and supposedly hyper Carno used to have shark row teeth

So it seems they design it to kill fast/ get the job done

[maiden sundial]

Well, for what they can influence to make it happen, it'd be the pituitary gland.

Since that is the regulator for the entire endocrine system.

[lethal moat]

Very well could end up being another Clark’s Third law situation

[maiden sundial]

They could have severe hyperthyroidism as not only a side effect of their massive size. But also due to their thyroid just being juiced up from the pituitary gland.

[meager junco]

Maybe the crazy mouths are somewhat to help digest food or eat it faster, due to needing to eat much more than regular animals do

The tusks for Rex could make it so it gores big prey quickly

[lethal moat]

Could also help crush food for predigestion like how insects mince things with their mandibles

[meager junco]

I just realized, maybe the small mouth just eats while the big mouth trashes

Kinda like a vacuum cleaner lol

[lethal moat]

The problem is, it isn’t quite a small mouth, but individual tusks, but food shovel to eat while in combat could work

[meager junco]

I mean if it’s eating stuff like ankys and ect, then those tusks might help push and crush it down

Inner tusks I mean

[lethal moat]

Mhm

[maiden sundial]

Thinking about how hyperendocrin rex is. It looks like they're just uncontrollably growing.

[lethal moat]

Could end up preventing it from eating, making starving worse

[meager junco]

How th do you have a 4K version of that

It’s so crisp

[maiden sundial]

Good question.

[meager junco]

I’m definitely replacing mine with that one

[maiden sundial]

I also noticed the tusks and inner fangs have sheaths

[meager junco]

Mhm

The Rex doesn’t hurt itself closing its mouth, it was designed so it could support those tusks, unlike h giga which seemed to be in pain with its mouth

[lethal moat]

I think it’s the eating while fighting thing, because if it thrashes, it could get solid chunks of flesh

[meager junco]

Yeh active feeding while fighting is a scary thought

Screw flesh grazing, this boy straight up flesh taking

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/asdf-it-says-gullible-on-the-ceiling-ah-you-stole-my-lungs-gif-19322533

[meager junco]

classic

[fast forge]

So the tusks inside the mouth

I 100% believe they are just pharyngeal jaws, like a moray eel or the xenomorphs in the movie Alien

In morays it is used to push food further down the throat, particularly slippery or struggling food. Without arms they can't shove the food into the mouth, so these internal jaws work it down into the throat

[lethal moat]

Use it to more efficiently slurp the galli noodle

[fast forge]

Real rex probably tore meat chunks off in sizable bits, but hyper rex is more able to swallow things whole, allowing it to eat faster

[lethal moat]

Mhm

[meager junco]

Yeh I thought something similar, if it isn’t for eating, then maybe it’s more of an extra tool when it’s latched onto prey

[fast forge]

My only thought for another possible use is that the hyper rex tusks can extend out from the mouth, like the mandibles of some insects

[acoustic osprey]

oh yeah

I mean.
I HOPE there is some sort of aspect where Hypers don't stop growing

not really in terms of size
but just everything

akin to the idea of (i think?) rams and their horns.
Growing into their skull. Something along those lines. Or your fingernails growing into your skin

[fast forge]

would be interesting if they have uncontrolled growth like tumors as they get too old

[acoustic osprey]

I mean
turning into a Hyper would, for sure, be a large amount of growth

but who says you won't stop growing after you become a "hyper"

and it's even just whole growth factor

[fast forge]

hyper titans, if they manage to find a whole herd

[acoustic osprey]

heck your endocrine system is cranked up and getting higher and higher

hormones.

You starve faster and faster.
You grow larger and larger and your bodily keratin literally eats into you

[fast forge]

In human cases of endocrine disorders like gigantism, you can get so big your bones can't support you

[acoustic osprey]

heck, your adrenaline would, technically, increase.
You might not even starve to death. You might die from a cardiac arrest

[acoustic osprey]

and that's only one aspect of the endocrine system

this is the whole lot being accentuated through science

[maiden sundial]

They would probably be immune to toxins tho.

[acoustic osprey]

in terms of it's thicker skin?

[lethal moat]

Hypers are interesting, because their massive flaw of dying from starvation means that the strain itself is like a toxin, in a parallel way to how performance enhancing drugs like pervatin will kill you from destroying your body

[meager junco]

It would be cool if there is something to look forward to even once you are a hyper Rex, for instance it could grow really slowly and in very small ticks but it would keep the gameplay interesting if you are able to keep such beast alive

[lethal moat]

It could also be a similar how to if a babirusa doesn’t keep it’s tusks from growing, those tusks could kill it

[acoustic osprey]

I would still like for such to be a limited time event though

Something you can't exploit and prolong

Create a sense creating enjoyment out of knowing your time is limited

Rather than keep on playing till you're bored

[fast forge]

I love the idea that strains come about in-game from a player consuming some substance at a human base, but that would just turn into a bloodbath as people fight for the "powerup"

[acoustic osprey]

a bit zombee-esque in that idea

to be fair, I'm a bit less of a fan of such
just a random "oh now I'm temporarily OP" seems a bit out of the blue

unless it's a long and hard route to unlock to consume such

[lethal moat]

I want to work for it

[acoustic osprey]

Don seems to want such as well

the journey needs to be hard
but how do you obtain it? I don't mind

just has to be cool, lol

[lethal moat]

Press E to break out of the glass

[acoustic osprey]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/855527844670865438/1219214137876283442/The_Isle_lore.gif

unlike Ben

[meager junco]

Yeh I wouldn’t make it anything crazy for example, if Rex returns as 38 tons for evrima, maybe make it grow in ticks of 100 kgs every 2-3 hours or so, an extremely slow process but it’s there

[meager junco]

I do like the idea of tusks growing into the animal but at the same time, I feel like the animals use their mouths too much for that to happen, they wear down the tusks as fast as they grow

[fast forge]

100% agree, it would be cool if it was actually a trial or a quest to find. My point was more that I want it to be connected to human bases in some way - an "external" influence, so to speak

[hexed forge]

So will you evolve into a strain or will you spawn in as one? As a baby strain? I dont like the second idea but it might work somehow

[lethal moat]

I’m betting it’s inflicted upon an adult dino somehow

[meager junco]

Yeh the beginning as a baby Dino is more something we just want, like spawn in a lab tank and break out and start from a juvenile hyper/neuro/tisso, but it’s very unlikely as it’s most likely linked to mutations or elders in a way

[lethal moat]

So I did a little bit of research on shipping container cranes

[hexed forge]

What if the first two letters stand for Apollo Enginnering, it is an Acronym correct?

[lethal moat]

Probably

[young viper]

we already got this a time ago

[hexed forge]

The images? I know.

[young viper]

no, the AE theory

[hexed forge]

Ah

[lethal moat]

I did a quick wikipedia search about the different types of cranes used for shipping, and what we have displayed are both types, which in itself isn't exciting.
However the one that I replied to in this message is a low profile crane which is typically only used if there is an airport nearby because it does less to impede the progress of planes, so I'm hoping this is more evidence for an airport being near a dockyard, like we've been discussing in the past

[hexed forge]

OH MY GODOODODODODOD

[young viper]

https://tenor.com/view/we-cant-land-here-we-cant-dont-land-here-not-allowed-to-land-alan-grant-gif-16077465

[hexed forge]

Rumple, you are smart.

[lethal moat]

Actually hold up

I might have jumped the gun on this one

[hexed forge]

Oh cmonnn

[lethal moat]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber_tyred_gantry_crane That looks more like one of these, which is used for organization rather than being a low profile crane

[hexed forge]

I dont think so actually, isles crane is singular. While this one you just showed can ahve multiple lanes. (Idk if im actually saying anything smart rn)

[lethal moat]

That's just multiple next to each other

I am doing more research though

[hexed forge]

Yeah but they dont look like the one isle has

[lethal moat]

Look at the size, that is not large enough to straddle an area to unload a large ship

I am doing research on the other crane and I'm learning a bit about shipping size regulations and such

[young viper]

Search for Gantry Crane

[lethal moat]

There's also different levels of gantry crane

The main issue I have currently, is the size of the walkway up to the crane

[young viper]

The shape is very similar to the one we have

[lethal moat]

It's not wide enough to straddle the space between gantry's to unload a large ship I wouldn't thing

[hexed forge]

Oh wait, Im stupid. i have been looking at the wrong isle crane lmao

I kept looking at this one

[candid river]

crane lore

[young viper]

With these images, I would say that what we currently have is to load containers

[hexed forge]

Load containers, why would there be trucks going around the island? The paths themselves arent really suitable for full on trucks loaded with containers..

[lethal moat]

The other, crane however (also called a gantry crane depending on where it's placed) is a panamex crane and is used for unloading large ships, and could potentially be qualified as a low profile crane

[young viper]

https://tenor.com/view/smart-thinking-thoughts-think-ponder-gif-7713620

[hexed forge]

Maybe through guts? I guess

[lethal moat]

Someone said we hadn't done lore in awhile, so I decided to go digging

[lethal moat]

GUTS could work, another options for harder to get to places could be heavy lifter helicopters

[hexed forge]

Possibly

[candid river]

is PI still canon?

[lethal moat]

?

[candid river]

Yknow, Corporate wars

Stealing stuff from each other

[lethal moat]

OH, Phoenix International, yeah, that hasn't returned from legacy and anything in correlation to Primal Carnage is scrapped and for sure not coming back

[candid river]

Ah.

Sad, Kind of

[lethal moat]

You want a summary of what we know for Evrima lore?

[candid river]

Sure

i'm wayyy outdated it seems

[lethal moat]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit We also have a lore server and a podcast if you're interested

[candid river]

Sure i love lore

[lethal moat]

I'll DM you

[candid river]

[young viper]

Ok, we have container loaders, the island is full of containers in human bases, How would trucks travel around the island with containers without proper roads? Difficult. Possibly GUTS or even 🚁 ? So, what would be in those containers?

[lethal moat]

So the other crane is known as a quay crane, and here's the company page on the cranes from what the isle seems to have based it off of: https://www.sipgbayport.com/bayport-facilities

[lethal moat]

Food, clothing, scientific equipment and resources, there's a ton of stuff it could be

[young viper]

Found one in action

[hexed forge]

And near the bases there is no guts opening, so im guessing the containers are transported by helicopters

[lethal moat]

Bada bing

[young viper]

The problem is that there are a lot of containers, and one or even three would be enough for this, maybe something bigger is being delivered to the Island

[hexed forge]

A dinosaur cant be put in the containers lol

[young viper]

I didn't mention dinosaurs lol

Anything of more importance than groceries

[hexed forge]

I mean what else except just equipment for the workers, guns, tranq guns, science stuff

[lethal moat]

You need a lot of supplies to maintain the current structures on the island, much less stuff that's unfinished as of yet, and they don't produce anything there, so absolutely everything needs to be shipped in

[hexed forge]

Rumple, I believe the airport will really just be for helicopters, and maybe 1 or 2 large planes.

An-225 when

[young viper]

We already have helipads at the bases, perhaps they can be used to load these things and leave the helicopter there, or even to bring employees

[hexed forge]

I dont think large helicopters can be housed at those helipads

[young viper]

Who knows

[hexed forge]

And there is so much trees usually around some of the helipads, soooo how is it landing, idk.

[lethal moat]

These types of cranes are typically used in deepwater ports, so it'll likely be somewhere relatively exposed as well as not shallow, like these places on the map

[young viper]

Well, if there are helipads, even around the trees they are there for something

[lethal moat]

Those helipads are not large enough for large transport aircraft

[hexed forge]

Small scout helicopters for researchers, just like shown in some concepts.

[lethal moat]

Actually, most of that Southeast island might work, I don't thingk it get shallow until you're right at the beach

[hexed forge]

I will be adding attack helicopter mods to the isle, tanks mods, etc. World War 3 on gateway

[hexed forge]

Small utility helicopters, yippee

[lethal moat]

Even if we don't see them in game, transportation vehicles are fun to think about

[hexed forge]

For example

[lethal moat]

Huey!

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/vietnam-vietnam-helicopter-vietnam-war-gif-24690485

Gen 2s landing to reclaim east plains ^

Deadly war

[young viper]

Somehow these are there

If the trucks driving through GUTS aren't real

[hexed forge]

I could see this

Yeah I actually doubt AE is using trucks to transport stuff, Guts seem like a very bad way. Especially if some of the turns are a bit.... yeah..

Too small for trucks

[lethal moat]

Why build GUTS if you aren't going to use it? I think GUTS is going to be more expansive than we assume, and that's going to be how things travel a majority of the way

[hexed forge]

OKay lets assume guts is large, how will you get it up to the bases from the underground. Elevator of some sorts? And thats seems like a lot of technology for some small base

[lethal moat]

Doesn't need to go directly to the base, though that could be possible and would be nice, you could have GUTS entrances be a hub, where shipping leaves and is spread out to different bases, we've already seen 2 protected GUTS entrances, maybe we'll see more as time goes on

[hexed forge]

Possibly, but the paths. Are they very suitable for trucks?

[lethal moat]

Not the super lengthy ones through the jungle, but for short distances, maybe. In addition, the roads could have deteriorated significantly since the island's abandonment

Plus, Gateway is unfinished, so we may see more entrances as time goes on

[hexed forge]

hmmm, Maybe

[acoustic osprey]

it's very likely to mean and start with "Apollo Engineering"

[fast forge]

trucks might not be needed often if there is a rail system

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-right-oh-yeah-aha-gif-11551513

[fast forge]

Between rail, shipping, aircraft, and ground vehicles they can do whatever is needed

[acoustic osprey]

that depends

as good as a rail system is
trucks and vans to allow short-ranged transport for utility would still be needed to some extent

[fast forge]

oh definitely

[acoustic osprey]

especially if "X" aspects become larger than the maximum for a forklift
in terms of weight and distance

[lethal moat]

Something like this would likely work well, especially if the medium sized cages fit onto standard sized beds

[acoustic osprey]

we've specifically seen these dudes (at least, very similar) in gateway artworks as well

[lethal moat]

Mhm

[acoustic osprey]

i don't mind them.

[hexed forge]

For a second I thought that was an S400.....

Missile systems when in the isle 🗣️

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[hexed forge]

Intercepting quetz!!

https://tenor.com/view/spaghetti-naptime-gif-22750788

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/katyusha-gif-18144996

[fast forge]

quetz will really bring an interesting flavor of danger to this game

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/reasonsimbroke-larry-david-hbo-hbo-max-meh-gif-24169087

[fast forge]

I dunno, the fear of having a giant flying murder knife drop down on you?

[hexed forge]

Thats if it can land on me, gotta time the landing perfectly. An aware player with no doubt would possibly be able to escape it

[fast forge]

maybe it's worse because I usually play herra and you can usually stay away from danger if you want. When quetz is in, this changes

[hexed forge]

You stay away from danger as herrera? Damn... im a pyschopath then lmao. I love to pounce on carnos and other stuff

[fast forge]

I just mean the ability to get away from danger by climbing

[hexed forge]

The bleed that herreras do is absolutely crazy, you can easily bleed something out if they start running. Just chase after them

[hexed forge]

Ah

[fast forge]

if you are recovering stamina, you know you are safe - quetz removes this

[hexed forge]

I mean, it cant get you in a tree tho. Well atleast in the jungle

[fast forge]

Yeah but I like to sit out on rocky peaks and the tops of human structures

[lethal moat]

I’m more afraid of things that apexes like quetz bring, like the ability to ignore things with small enough hitboxes

[lethal moat]

Wonder if AE would use Sonic weapons

Or just sound based deterrences

[strange shell]

They play Despacito full volume around their bases

[lethal moat]

Apple alarm noise

[strange shell]

Lore leak

[icy onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/damson-idris-snowfall-franklin-saint-angry-upset-gif-593583482169981396

[acoustic osprey]

Sending this here for me for the better

This is in reference to Cerato asking about what the barely visible glitched words are from the Dondi dibble video screenshot

we don't have a C or B yet "location" like K15
possibly
albeit, I'd imagine that glitch be of only words from ( https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401480573471948821/1215046593611436103/image.png?ex=660dc852&is=65fb5352&hm=1468fb0577e06e7f9bbe109bb76db1f7f99d5c98a68ad2abea7e23d68eb5c4b9& ) - pretend it says injection
|
and the thing is
https://gyazo.com/18a057cde43e630dcd32472a64f2e597

this is the only previous mention of those block information parts.
Which is part of the menu and not an overlay for some CCTV

it's possible that the screenshot we got from Dondi is an splice between two frames
the first being akin to the photo I sent, with "injection diablo blah blah blah" with the second frame being a "TCAM" or "MCAM" or "OCAM" input- which I believe likely isn't finished.
This is due to Augustus' MCAM still being "boxed"- as in the computer is viewing it in a window.

OR

this dibble video is not set when Augustus is set in.
Possibly being set in the future. Where fullscreen monitoring from computers exist better whilst also being better quality.
As the background footage in the screenshot is definitely better quality (ignoring the compression) than the visible stronger aberration and CRT pixelated footage.

-and with the first part, if correct

then that added "glitch" words is likely not from the "blue box" but likely an artefact added with the glitch effect from the previous "non-glitched" frame which we can't see. As the screenshot is only one frame still

but to be fair
it's been quite a while since the screenshot was sent.
I wouldn't be surprised if it was a rough without proper VFX yet (for the CAM footage)
however
we're yet to see

BUT
to note.

This video MAY not be even closely related to Augustus, in terms of it's video.
It could very much be in a similar "time"
Just done by a different team and used for different reasons- the Augustus video is used by a person remotely. Whether it be from another island, etc.
But this dibble video might be literally a mixture of actual CCTV monitors. Which would be full screen.

and it may be more likely that the VFX of the CAM might be different due to it not being finished yet. It adds a lot to your computer to just add on VFX before finishing the final video

[fast forge]

So in that first part, you are saying that the B and C underneath might just be off-center duplicates of the same B and C in the word DIABLOCERATOPS?

the line to the right of the bottom B could also be the top of the L?

It occurs to me that if this is "Diabloceratops ver. 0.1.2" it's literally the second version of dibble they ever had

kinda obvious now

[lethal moat]

Second diablo, first version

[fast forge]

errr yeah

Oh it's also the same version as Augustus

[lethal moat]

So, probably decently early on in AE's dinosaur experiments

[hexed forge]

I was mentioned in a wall post, time to read!!

Weoe, interesting.

[hexed forge]

What dino has another version other than 0.1.2, was it beipi? or cera, I forgot.

[lethal moat]

Galli and cera

[acoustic osprey]

No and yes

more so that it "could" be such
THAT if it is something from that "screen" -> possibly it's from the "previous frame" (the frame before this screenshot, where the glitch effect starts)

That it could be words from "out" of the main box that says "Injection - Diablo etc etc"

like information from here for example

but it's interesting
we've never actually had this sort of formating:

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401480573471948821/1215046593611436103/image.png?ex=660dc852&is=65fb5352&hm=1468fb0577e06e7f9bbe109bb76db1f7f99d5c98a68ad2abea7e23d68eb5c4b9&

within a video
not just the thumbnail

[acoustic osprey]

basically anything in legacy will get a 0.1.2 or 0.1.3

it's an in-universe way, as an easter egg, to at least acknowledge the past

whilst also not being all that too painful to explain in-lore

"we just upgraded "X" creature"

albeit though
for Herrera especially- with Augustus

I wonder that IF a creature has a very beneficial mutation (in this case, anomalous behaviour. It's VERY important to note this is not a proper "physical mutation". As it seems like all herrerasaurus prior in version 0.1.2 had the physicality to climb- with or without AE knowing- just lacked the ability to actually know of how to do it as a behavioural aspect) will then such creature, if successfully replicated naturally and/or through AE for the same qualities, will it count as an added "version number"?

i.e. Would all Herrera species, after Augustus, be dubbed 0.1.3?

I believe no.

Seeing as it's far more sociological and psychological than physiological

an added version number isn't really necessary
especially if we have "lineage" codes for creatures- which could be used, far more, akin to "X creature is in TY ||whatever the system is to detail and code creature lineage|| lineage, henceforth it will likely act like {insert behaviour} due to RnD for that lineage"

[acoustic osprey]

second diablo?

[lethal moat]

I wonder if x.1.2 will have x be strains

[acoustic osprey]

mmm

very interesting point

[hexed forge]

N.1.3?

Or T.1.2

[lethal moat]

Yis

Or just numbers for the strains

[hexed forge]

yippee

[acoustic osprey]

I wouldn't presume letters on the number code

but maybe?

[hexed forge]

I mean, using letters would be easier than a number for a strain ngl

[lethal moat]

Depends

[lethal moat]

I would love to see something like this for AE

[fast forge]

I love SCP lore

The Isle gave me SCP vibes when I first got into the lore

[lethal moat]

Big Spooky company who deals with extraordinarily powerful beings? Check

[acoustic osprey]

As per rump
It depends

Methodically, using letters to replace numbers is lesser done then adding a letter as a suffix

Eg, 0.1.2b
An example of deterring from the main design/version but still existing within a very similar physicality

• I.e. Augustus fits better the description as a 0.1.2b

[lethal moat]

If that first digit isn’t for strains, I wonder what it could be for, and to be honest, I feel similarly with the second digit, with the exception of gen 1, which may potentially evolve more drastically via the replicator, but that’s currently specultation

[acoustic osprey]

Presumably complete physical overhauls? And/or a completely new version of "X" creature made for a new purpose / RnD project

[lethal moat]

I feel like that would be in the third digit, since we know about feathered galli vs scaled galli

[acoustic osprey]

I wouldn't say so as a third digit for strains

[lethal moat]

Agreed

[acoustic osprey]

but the thing is
Galli feathered vs scaled is still 0.1.2

[lethal moat]

Well, we don’t know if the feathered ones had a different designation, or if it was a random mutation thing

It could just remain an unknown for now

[acoustic osprey]

Don — 02/11/2022 08:10
I'd love to see the oldest Iteration of lore done as a gamemode

imagine this

#isle-discussion message

I won't. There's actual names for them. Most of which may not be seen until Gen2 information comes with it, but it's still there.

also something I was thinking.
The context and meaning is hard, as it's pretty broad.

Either Don is explicitly just referring to names like "K15" or "I12" - however, at this time, we still knew of the names of K15 and I12

[lethal moat]

We’ll get names, either through designation or company nicknames, I don’t really mind the difference, as long as we have a way of navigating to them

[acoustic osprey]

Aye
But what specifically was dondi referring to is thy question

[lethal moat]

[hexed forge]

What kind of military vehicles could AE have?

Im mainly asking this because rumple showed me how AE could be similar to how the SCP foundation does things.

If its that much in depth, they would have to have some sort of military equipment right?

[lethal moat]

The confirmed one is a vehicle similar to the Willys MB

[hexed forge]

Ah

[lethal moat]

However, if we're going potential vehicles that exist in real life, military surplus is a solid option that's fairly cheap

[fast forge]

Well, the power and abilities of the SCP Foundation can vary greatly, depending on the universe and canon

[lethal moat]

Right, it's mainly about the company practices, rather than the anomalies themselves

[fast forge]

They can range from being a glorified para-military group to defenders of the known universe, reshaping time and space

There are even stories with parallel universes in a single canon where the Foundation is very different from each other

[hexed forge]

I wonder if AE has any attack helicopters

[lethal moat]

Unless that's how the hyper gun is used, I doubt it

[knotty locust]

the image of the hyper quetz going through the helicopter

[fast forge]

Other than wrangling dinosaurs, they likely didn't have too much need for military-grade weaponry. Probably just very high security

[hexed forge]

Just shoot the quetz down using a missile system, specifically IR missiles

[lethal moat]

Or a rifle

[hexed forge]

I mean.. missile is cooler!!

[lethal moat]

Also, way more expensive

[hexed forge]

Yeah, I'm just now addicted to rumples scp references

[fast forge]

I'm betting that before The Incident, they had things mostly in hand with lower grade weaponry and there were few animals that they had any difficulty controlling

So something like missiles or an attack helicopter would be unnecessary expense

[hexed forge]

But, it's cool
Jk,
But tbf if AE could make these giant domes, 1 small helicopter with missiles attached to it isn't really a major thing compared to the cost of the domes

[hexed forge]

Sadly

[lethal moat]

Open side helicopter with a machine gun is the max I see, unless it's the hyper gun, but even then

[hexed forge]

What's the hyper gun

[lethal moat]

You don't turn a profit by spending extra money

[hexed forge]

Also, if the matriarch is that powerful as the unofficial concepts... then.. how much will a gun do?

[lethal moat]

Containment methods are fun, my go to would just be suspend in a coma

[hexed forge]

In case of a containment breach however, it would be nice. Better safe than sorry

[lethal moat]

Engineered dependancy could work

[fast forge]

yeah that was my thought, and it adds a level of hubris to the story of the company

and also physical containment - barriers, closing doors, lures, etc

[hexed forge]

We just gotta wait and see when the lore finally comes to the game.... soon.... soon...

[lethal moat]

Tisso Megalania as SCP 682

[hexed forge]

Yehehe

[acoustic osprey]

Honestly for your average dino
Surplus guns wouldn't be bad

But I'd suppose they'd take the The Lost World take and have more specialised and docile tranqs

Still
Definitely have guns

But I'd think they'd be less surplus and more minimal, expensive and powerful. Just in case

[lethal moat]

Anything over 20mm for non-strains is excessive

I'd argue that 20 mm is excessive, but rather safe than sorry

[fossil nebula]

Id even say anything over a 50 cal is excessive for non strains, heres a m3 50 cal that used primarily on the f-86 sabre, a m2 50 cal was very similar just with much slower firerate as the m3 was meant for aircraft

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5a4OG9FUAY

[lethal moat]

Probably, you can't go wrong with an m2 browning

[fossil nebula]

and the m3 is a m2 but fires incredibly faster

[acoustic osprey]

I think excessive would be fine for stuff like such

[lethal moat]

It's expensive

[acoustic osprey]

For safety
I'd say they would use stuff as a last resort
So it'd be minimal, would balances it out honestly

[lethal moat]

No kill like overkill

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

You can never be too safe!

[lethal moat]

Green tip 300mm fully automatic, take it or leave it

[modern rover]

Any gun with high calibre should not be added, strain or not

Add a sci-fi gun for the sci-fi animal

[acoustic osprey]

Or specialised anti stain toxin

But, in lore, it would make sense to store a minimal amount of powerful guns
These are dangerous creations

[lethal moat]

Wonder if the robo quetz is modular or if it has replaceable parts

[strange shell]

A machine without replaceable parts is not a machine, it's an IPad

[acoustic osprey]

made by Apple

but yeah
everything is modular when you're an engineer anyways

[knotty locust]

or a mad max enthusiast

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/i-am-the-nightrider-baby-nightrider-sassy-happy-driving-gif-17713162

[near estuary]

Ayo is 7.5 out yet

[iron anchor]

much pondering

[icy onyx]

soon

[icy onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/damson-idris-snowfall-franklin-saint-angry-upset-gif-593583482169981396

[acoustic osprey]

Daviid lore channel appearance!

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-nintendo-pokemon-go-niantic-team-mystic-gif-18170693

[hexed forge]

Famous now is he

[fast forge]

I don't know him

But Wish You Were Here was a great album and song

[hexed forge]

How dare

[fast forge]

so gets my respect

[fast forge]

I'm new in town

[acoustic osprey]

lore 🙂

[hexed forge]

No excuses

[hexed forge]

Dibble video on April 1st I'm calling it. Or devblog

[fast forge]

what should I know?

[acoustic osprey]

oh

OF COURSE DEVBLOG WILL BE OUT

[hexed forge]

Devblog will be on friday, not April 1st

[acoustic osprey]

yeah, but devblog will still be out.
It's like saying "Tomorrow is going to happen" !!

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-woah-wait-what-shocked-what-did-you-say-gif-16673454

[fast forge]

I hope there's dibble video on the first

[hexed forge]

Your birthday

[fast forge]

yes

[hexed forge]

Another year closer to an unknown end

[fast forge]

lol you don't have to tell me, I'm one step closer to 40

although when most people meet me they think I'm in my 20's, got that baby face

but my bones feel it...

[lethal moat]

Imagine being alive for more than a quarter if the time since ww2

[hexed forge]

Rumple I just have this feeling that you are insane rn, something feels different about you

[lethal moat]

I am preparing for an all nighter

[fast forge]

https://tenor.com/view/grampa-simpson-gif-19674842

[lethal moat]

I still have a year and a quarter

[bleak flint]

when will the quetzal coatlus come

im waiting

wait this is the wrong chat

[acoustic osprey]

i wished for my birthday as well...

i just hope the time spent is worth it for us lore peeps

What am I saying! Of course it will.

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/dr-umar-umar-drumar-we-must-stay-focused-we-must-stay-focused-brother-gif-7363038804687601927

[acoustic osprey]

but on a serious note.
I don't want high expectations, but I hope it's a definite banger

[lethal moat]

Expectations are the killers of joy

[acoustic osprey]

nuh uh

high expectations are!!

[lethal moat]

What I meant to say

[acoustic osprey]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/401480390528729091/1081008629047627807/IMG_1332.gif

[lethal moat]

Expecting quality is fantastic, but expecting specific things is setting yourself up for disappointment when it isn't exactly how you envision it

[acoustic osprey]

I do hope it's of quality.
I want it to be better than Augustus- but, inately, it's a different style of video, so it can't literally be "better"

[icy onyx]

my dumb brain thought this was a ping to the devblog

[icy onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-emoji-laughing-emoji-animated-laugh-gif-27394849

[hexed forge]

The isle Movie when

[lethal moat]

With Moist Critical playing Dondi

[hexed forge]

The CEO of AE is dondi

[lethal moat]

Filipe as chris pratt

[hexed forge]

Wrong channel

[lethal moat]

<@&933486433342222376>

Thanks

[hexed forge]

That was interesting

[hexed forge]

Punchpacket as Ian Malcom

https://tenor.com/view/life-uh-finds-a-way-it-be-that-way-it-will-work-itself-out-gif-16077053

[lethal moat]

Good old Goldblum

[hexed forge]

How old is he now, almost 80?

[lethal moat]

It’s perfect

[fast forge]

Has anyone sussed out the dibble video location from that screenshot? It's a long shot I know, but just curious if anyone put that work in

[lethal moat]

I tried a couple spots along the river to the north of river delta, I haven’t checked south plains yet

[fast forge]

Yeah my first instinct was the river in the midlands. That is a river in the background, right?

[lethal moat]

Don't think so

[hexed forge]

The water is very blue. It's a pond/lake. Not river btw

[hexed forge]

I thought it was the pond right next to the north riverdelta river. The one near the connection of riverdelta, north river, and ne river

[acoustic osprey]

I was going to
But essays took the lead

But
Think of it as akin to H4

It might exist for dondi
But for us? We know our version of the map is, now, outdated

[hexed forge]

Oh my god Isaac. ITS THE NEW EAST PLAINS LOCATION

[acoustic osprey]

Oh no

[fast forge]

lol

[hexed forge]

It all makes sense! The river being surrounded by dense jungle!! AND DONDI SAID THAT AROUND THE DOME WILL BE A DENSE JUNGLE!

It all makes sense

[acoustic osprey]

It's the river Styx...
It's actually inside perimeter

[hexed forge]

No wayy

[acoustic osprey]

I mean
In all seriousness

It could be inside perimeter

[hexed forge]

Si

[icy onyx]

LORE🗣️🔥

[acoustic osprey]

Can you send the image again?

[icy onyx]

:Filipeapproves:

[hexed forge]

Oh wait, it actually might be perimeter 💀

[acoustic osprey]

Looking at the background
Maybe not?

It's a bit hard
The sky is definiti over exposed

But it looks like clouds?

But heck
We know the domes are made to emulate an environment for research

Maybe the reason the exterior is oblique is due to the interior emulating an atmosphere and sky

We know the inside of perimeter has, at least, fog

[bleak flint]

it looks like that thing that has the river

[hexed forge]

We can only wait and see.... unless the entire clip is gonna be glitchy...

[knotty locust]

honestly when I saw that image I thought it was spiro

it looks like the central river sorta

[fast forge]

turns out they were updating spiro this whole time...

H4 is on updated spiro...

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah lol

[acoustic osprey]

Oh no
Haha

[lethal moat]

Wonder how the glitching will play into the video, maybe corrupted or waterlogged

[acoustic osprey]

Or Don did it on purpose to trick us lol

[lethal moat]

He would never

[acoustic osprey]

🙂

[fallow harbor]

injection ?

[acoustic osprey]

Injection

[fallow harbor]

like legacy injections ??

[acoustic osprey]

Nah, I don't imagine literal "admin allow X player to become dinosaur"

but the name infers something akin to such in lore

[fallow harbor]

yes thats what i ment

[acoustic osprey]

maybe with EIPs
seeing as that was a topic during that time

[fallow harbor]

or maybe that diabloceratops strain got "injected" on the gateway island

not strain but whatever its called

like augusuts is a strain or something of herreras

[acoustic osprey]

i heavily doubt it's a strain
at least this early

[acoustic osprey]

nah, I wouldn't suspect stuff of such.
It seems like his lineage (or version type, i.e. 0.1.2) was pretty much all the same- where they, without knowing, had the ability to climb

just that they didn't as they showed no behavioural signs nor knowledge

it's roughly what (forgot the name of the term) is showcased in The Lost World novel

that you can't really observe the true nature of dinosaurs
a bit of a "who came first; egg or chicken"
as the dinosaurs can't "act" like proper dinosaurs because there were no parents to relay behavioural aspects down to the hatchling

[fallow harbor]

MAYBE THATS WHERE THE ROBOT QUETZ COMES INTO PLA Y??

[acoustic osprey]

in the case of The Lost World
all the dinosaurs, especially raptors, were pretty feral. Having no sense of structured survival in any form of matter considered normal for an animal

[fallow harbor]

like to teach the dinosaurs how to interact with a real quetz before they brough a real quetz into the island

[acoustic osprey]

to be fair, the reason I see Drone Quetz fitting in a lot more
is because it's more a natural creature that can fit within the normal environment to allow better surveillance

the thing is...

the observer effect IS a thing

and not just a thing for simple physics

in which I hope Don might include as a reference IF he does refer to Drone Quetz anywhere

you cannot naturally observe something within it's natural space without interfering with it

your simple presence is, in the grand scheme of things, still changing the environment "X" thing is living in

Drone Quetz is, still, a way for Apollo Engineering to subdue the worse outcomes by just putting an actual drone

[fallow harbor]

u would think that some dinos would be smart enough to tell that something is off with the quetz tho, no ?

[acoustic osprey]

if it's constantly flying
it might- if it has super vision

and if it sees Drone Quetz flying
that is AE failing as a drone

[fallow harbor]

maybe robot troodon or herrea would be beter tho ? something small and something that can stay out of sight

and if seen u dont really bat an eye

[acoustic osprey]

there are more thing on eye level with Troo and Herrera than something in the sky, to be fair

but there may possibly more than one type of "Drones"

however, i do wish Dondi does such with caution

it's a fun idea.
but there should be a definite reason to bring a drone onto land to survey

I'm not including trailcams.
As they're trailcams.

and not a good indication of time at the moment (in what time period they're set in. For all we know, the trailcams are Gen2 cams)

and we don't know what of those older videos are even lore anymore, sadly

[acoustic osprey]

My focus in the last few weeks has been on two video projects.

A trailcam project showing an upcoming species in its natural behavior, the Diabloceratops.

This project also includes one of my most complex scenes so far in terms of filming effort. Most people who read my blog entries know that I record 95% of the scenes in the UE sequencer. There I move the actors, add the animations (or animate small parts myself with control rigs) and adjust the camera settings.

In this project you will see a scene that is very dynamic and works with many spar animations of the Diablo. It should represent both the hectic process that we know from the in-game experiences, but still look natural. I hope we have achieved the goal in this project!

nice information for the dibble video

sadly, I don't think this gives us enough information for a "rough when it'll be in"
but

still.
Seeing as the second project is starting filming
must be getting almost there now

[lethal moat]

Cloning tank promotional poster, very nice

[acoustic osprey]

seems like the Vis 3d model was a vat as well

[lethal moat]

Look forward to seeing those more closely

[acoustic osprey]

aye

it'll be nice to see it.
If it's properly good enough, might just replace my current banner

[lethal moat]

But, I don’t see anything majorly radical in the devblog, I’ll look a bit closer in the morning, have a good one 👋

[acoustic osprey]

but this is poster art
so I presume the banner would be different

guessing this will be for 1.0 or evrima branch being changeed to normal branch

unless that counts as 1.0?

[lethal moat]

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/clone-wars-star-wars-rex-fives-clones-gif-4506351670282466337

[lethal moat]

Anyway, eepy sleepy time, I can dissect statements tomorrow

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/roz-monsters-inc-gif-21427129

I have had nothing to bring to the table for a long time

[ionic sable]

I honestly still believe the OG Rex footprint poster is essentially perfect.

I'm a massive fan of the simpler designs. So just the human skull in the footprint of the Rex with the Spas sitting in the crater beside it was honestly more than enough for me.

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-eyebrow-god-of-war-gif-27143599

I don't think the more "Simpler" designs are lost
Don seemed to tease some stuff before.

it's likely, if anything, promotional material

I don't know how a vat could make it in the main poster.
unless Tap meant as a banner, which would make much more sense
but, can't wait to see what she has in store

[knotty locust]

maybe merchandise poster

[acoustic osprey]

could be part of the new merch store revamp
that'd be cool

TV shirt idea -> "I'm a Vat"

[knotty locust]

cloning tank with a gen 1 inside, gen 2 scientists crowded around it, the “replicator” with its hands surrounding the entirety of the gen 2s

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/go-on-do-it-duty-game-of-thrones-gif-20321071

[ionic sable]

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-i-am-just-a-fish-dont-cry-gif-25697823

[lethal moat]

Time for some theory crafting: what’s tapwing going to put in the tank in the promotional art poster

My bet is omniraptor, or something else pretty recognizable

[meager junco]

Ben is all that we need in those

[hallow rover]

Funny paining go brrr

Did we ever find out what thats meant to depict

[lethal moat]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401480573471948821/1174382279586488371/Gen1_cave_art.png?ex=6616bb3a&is=6604463a&hm=f0f6b27eb7405a6e81418de47ae6610165da0b8facc551534eecf1f97148d463&

This is canon until it isn’t

[hallow rover]

I wouldn’t what to meet whatever made those handprints in a dark ally

[lethal moat]

[fallow harbor]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhh maybe its them worshipping the replicator

and the hands represent them putting there hands up to it

2d side profile

[lethal moat]

#isle-lore-theories message

#isle-lore-theories message This as well

[hallow rover]

if they dont worship maybe they have a symbiotic relationship with it somehow

[fast forge]

So maybe more like an ant colony? A superorganism?

[lethal moat]

The point is, those paintings very well may not be canon anymore

[hexed forge]

Since something has to be coming on April 1st, Im now doubting that its the dibble video for some reason..

[fast forge]

does something have to come on April 1st?

or is it just likely?

[lethal moat]

Cerato has a bet going that he’a going to lose

[hallow rover]

they should make all dinosaurs 2x smaller for April 1st

[hexed forge]

Dondi in 2022 said that 2022 will be the last year with nothing coming on april 1st right? Iirc?

[hexed forge]

YEAHH

[hallow rover]

what happened on april 1st last year?

[hexed forge]

The Soontm meme video

[hallow rover]

oh yea now i remember

[hexed forge]

My brain keeps saying "Soon Tomorrow" Everytime I read it..

[hexed forge]

NOT MY 50 DOLLARS NOOOOO

[icy onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/dune-dune-part-2-stilgar-fremen-disbelief-gif-12317631084823747336

[lethal moat]

Took me far too long to find this #isle-lore-theories message

[hallow rover]

so they know where they come from fair enough but how come they paint it in such a manner it looks like its integral to them unless like you said the painting aint cannon anymore

[lethal moat]

Gen 1 also is more than just one thing, so they could have different interests when it comes to the replicator

Bob the builder gen 1 niche when

[fast forge]

kinda looks like the bottom section of this diagram, inverted

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/ratatouille-meme-memes-reads-letter-gif-20713760

The skulls may or may not roughly line up with locations as well

Let me make a better one

I can’t make it transparent on my phone, but this is fairly similar

https://tenor.com/view/coincidence-i-think-not-coincidence-i-think-not-the-incredibles-gif-5096707

Or I’m just looking waaaay to far into something tiny said

[hexed forge]

How old is that replicator concept?

[fast forge]

It was the three sections at the top that really made me think of it

[lethal moat]

It’s old and Dondi specifically said it might not be canon at some point

But it’s a neat comparison I never saw anymore

[lethal moat]

Like this?

[hexed forge]

Yeah its prob a coincidence tho

[lethal moat]

Maybe

[hexed forge]

This is just a moment of where we get too excited over something small that has a high chance of being false

[lethal moat]

I will believe that there is something there until confirmed otherwise

[hexed forge]

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/you-see-it-is-part-plan-explain-gif-20448886

[fast forge]

I just need to bring this to Carol in HR

[acoustic osprey]

I don't think it's supposed to, in lore
BUT
It might have be done metaphorically

[hexed forge]

The concept art is soo old, it has to be a coincidence lol

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-office-andy-bernard-coincidence-gif-25024172

[fast forge]

Another way to look at it

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/coincidencebecks-gif-25459389

[fast forge]

Instead of the drawing being a religious motif, or a sacrifice, this would make it a map

Maybe they saw the map inside a human structure, and are recreating it outdoors

[lethal moat]

Makes more sense to me, since there’s less of a religious motif for gen 1 than for the tribals

[fast forge]

or the map could have religious significance too

[hexed forge]

I dont think thats a map.. That gen 1 was trying to make.

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/wench-silence-silence-wench-mad-angry-gif-12588121

[hexed forge]

Clearly not a map. Ngl, it looks like the sun for some reason lmao

[fast forge]

What really connects them for me is the tripartite bottom arc

[hexed forge]

Sun?

[fast forge]

I always saw it as a sun before

[hallow rover]

i take full responsibility for this discovery cause i started the conversation

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/clap-gif-25211694

[lethal moat]

It’s most certainly not a map, since the original thing isn’t a map anyway, but it’s still a neat comparison lol

[fast forge]

yes it's an "abstract guide"

[lethal moat]

It’s probably nothing, but it gave me something to overthink for an hour and a half

[fast forge]

But it also seems to be a guide on physical connections between parts of the base. The document uses terms like "exterior state", "entry origin", and describes physical locations like various entries and the viewing platform

[hexed forge]

Have we got confirmation of the "Map/guide" being gateway?

[fast forge]

I think it's an abstract map in that the locations and distances between them are not to scale

It's a guide for movement through the facility

[acoustic osprey]

i mean
there was a remodel in the end of 2020

[hexed forge]

Yipeee

[lethal moat]

Nope, just solid guesses

[hexed forge]

I hope its confirmed as Gateway... Because then...

https://tenor.com/view/cook-breaking-bad-hoodie-gif-13536614

[fast forge]

Olympus being the volcano with three entries makes sense to me

[hexed forge]

Eh

I dont think its the volcano, however it could be an entry. HADES entry.

Hades entry volcano

[lethal moat]

I think the entrances would have more individuality for the gods if the volcano was olympus control

[hexed forge]

Hades entry: Volcano
Poseidon entry: Docks potentially? Somewhere around the coast
Zues entry: Hmmm Highlands?

[lethal moat]

They all need to be connected to GUTS somehow

Docks could be by monorail, zeus could be Perimeter with the helipad, hades could be volcano

[hexed forge]

Oh yeah! Perimeter!

[fast forge]

Zeus could also be highlands somewhere?

although I don't remember any entrances near there

[hexed forge]

There is a dome north of highlands, 1/4 of it is in the mountain

[fast forge]

I suppose, I just didn't think of it as a GUTS entrance like some others

[lethal moat]

We know so little about the small domes planned interior that it’s totally possible

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah... painfully

At least we know they're debug right now
So the contents within and stuff with it is all up in the air

[lethal moat]

Mhm

[icy onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/lebron-sunshine-lebron-james-sunshine-sunshine-lebron-you-are-my-sunshine-you-are-my-sunshine-gif-509896211431970290

[lethal moat]

Is that AE’s CEO or a worker for AE?

[icy onyx]

Ceo

[lethal moat]

I’ll take it

[fast forge]

is he wearing a Lakers jersey?

I don't know much about sports, but I know a bit about basketball

[hexed forge]

I think so

[fast forge]

oh yeah I think it's lebron

[hexed forge]

You.. just realized that...

[fast forge]

yes

[acoustic osprey]

what I do find curious

I wonder if we'll get any lore (hidden or on purpose) for the Gateway trailer

yes I know it's supposed to be a broad trailer

but I do wonder if there will be anything that isn't on the current map atm which might account to something noteworthy

[lethal moat]

Docks please

[acoustic osprey]

the thing is.
I presume the Gateway trailer won't be for quite a while, supposedly after the known Gateway changes release

[lethal moat]

I’m betting late this year or early next year

[acoustic osprey]

probably
if anything. I would love VERY hidden stuff. Stuff we're gotta search for in the background!

But
that trailer could, like the Tapwing art, be very much for promotional stuff

so they'd want to show, more or less, finalised stuff for Gateway

[lethal moat]

Probably

[acoustic osprey]

which I presume, in which they don't want to tell the masses, they are slowly trying to build up to full release of Evrima into main branch

which will definitely be pretty big for Evrima.
Sadly, I don't think it'll get as much as recode launch. But hopefully similar still

[lethal moat]

It’ll be nice to see a decent spike in popularity

But an official basic mechanics guide would be nice

[acoustic osprey]

there certainly could be.
Especially if they have that trailer to release with Elders and Mutations

[acoustic osprey]

nah, just work on in-game tutorial building

relying on 3rd parties is a stinker in video games.
I don't want to read several documents to learn about lore, gameplay mechanics and "metas"

[lethal moat]

Very fair

[acoustic osprey]

it's preferable, for the player, to learn everything they can- for the broader part- in-game

but of course
not a "This is everything you can do tutorial, enjoy not learning anything naturally"

[lethal moat]

Maybe an opt-in training video before an EIP is inserted or something

[acoustic osprey]

pft!

honestly, a lore-inspired short-story story-mode Gen2 tutorial would be great

I'd always imagine a very natural "Dinosaur tutorial mode" (excluding toaster pop-ups, which are a great alternative)
would be related to a better UI overhaul, akin to what Hacker has made

but, it's a bit weird.

[lethal moat]

In game stuff like that would be sick

[acoustic osprey]

if they do the lore-part well as a story aspect in-game like that, less so a video though more so tutorial mode.
it could be a very interesting "EIP" introduction X tutorial, making it natural because it's lore-esque

but it just depends on how they do it

[lethal moat]

Something like a Helldivers tutorial for gen 2 before going to the island might be interesting

This is what you will experience, you’re screwed, best of luck

[acoustic osprey]

I don't mind if it's a "flashback" of being a scientist/engineering on an island (unnamed 🙂) before/just before "the incident"

[lethal moat]

Something like that

[acoustic osprey]

calm-before the storm type of thing
ending off with the beginning of the incident (depending on how large scale and immediate the incident was) as a real "welcome to the isle"

[lethal moat]

Or you have time to prepare, and you can choose a backpack with a “prep kit” water bottle, knife, flashlight, then maybe something else like a PDA tablet or something, just get into the story before you enter the island

Get on the ship and get out sort of thing

[lethal moat]

Yes please

[acoustic osprey]

honestly.
Having such transition into the actual game would be cool

something I wish SoT's tutorial start would do
because it fits so much

like it'd be VERY hard (server-performance-wise) to smoothly transition

but I don't imagine something smooth

[lethal moat]

Get pulled out of the vat, cleaned off, have the option to watch a short prep video for if you’re a new EIP, get a small amount of gear, maybe meet up with a small group of friends before getting to the island, then get shipped out however they do that

[acoustic osprey]

of course you aren't playing as a scientist
but one of the "X" things you were packing up before you could leave the island (ps. you, the scientist, died before getting off the island) could be picked up by your Gen2 character? something

[lethal moat]

I like that idea

Past lives from EIP playing into the story

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/skyrim-gif-21515479

[lethal moat]

Mhm

[acoustic osprey]

something something, I'm getting Battlefield tutorial-esque vibes of moving from body to body

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/xrd-exrd-crypto-btc-eth-gif-23801255

But then again, jumping right in is more the style, less tutorial, more struggle, and that could also play in with development of eips

[acoustic osprey]

mmmm

[lethal moat]

I want more about EIPs and thousand life contract before deciding which I would prefer

[acoustic osprey]

I wonder, yeah

would love to see how much has or hasn't diverged

[lethal moat]

What goes and what stays from legacy gives us more stuff to do while reviewing things

Alphie stays

[acoustic osprey]

NEVER

[lethal moat]

Wait, Alphie wasn’t primal carnage was it?

His new name is Andrew now, so says Rumple

[acoustic osprey]

Both yeah

[lethal moat]

Forget Alphie, I’m an Andrew man now

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

There was an old islecord lore dude who was turned into the director/lead for Project Alphonse though

Dr Chance!

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/mark-cuban-shark-tank-notes-taking-notes-remember-gif-15073512

I need to do a deep dive into to legacy lore on Tuesday

[fast forge]

Trailer starts with a scientist who has signed the thousand life contract, but has not had their first death, working on Gen 2 in a tank. Suddenly, the 'incident' occurs, scientist dies to an escaped animal (dino, gen 1, matriarch, whatever).

Screen goes black for a while.

Eventually machinery boots up, and the same individual has the perspective from inside the Gen 2 tank. After release/escape, it is obvious some time has passed, with weathered equipment and plant growth. Our new Gen 2 is chased through GUTS, out of the facility, only to suddenly emerge on the surface of Gateway, showcasing the full map, and an ecosystem full of dinosaurs

[hexed forge]

AH WALL

[hexed forge]

Gen 2 were sent to gateway tho, they weren't made on gateway iirc

They were made on a different island

[fast forge]

so the scientist is receiving a shipment of gen 2 tanks

[hexed forge]

But Gen2s took place after the incident

[fast forge]

made after the incident or simply released? I thought they were made by AE

[hexed forge]

The major theory is that they were made after the incident yeah, and then they were sent to the island to restore it. And yes they were made by AE

The incident wasnt the end of AE if thats what you were thinking of

[fast forge]

fair

[lethal moat]

Well

It could be the end of AE, without the end of the larger Apollo company, which either reinstated or reforms AE

Or something entirely different

[acoustic osprey]

the thing is

how can you "restore" such without killing everything on it?

[hexed forge]

By killing

[acoustic osprey]

do AE want to completely stop research with dinosaurs?

or do they need the dinosaurs on the islands?

-if so
Why?
Is the information to create dinos limited to the islands?
Why does that mean you need the dinos then? Why don't you just store the replicator or use information you would've kept in machinery

[hexed forge]

They dont need to kill all the dinos, the dinos roamed freely around the island so all they need to do is just get the essential buildings up and running. Right?

Idk

[acoustic osprey]

roamed freely with past tense as in before the incident?
or do you just mean "they roam freely now"

because
that wouldn't really be restoring the island. If you anything, you'd need force to restore

[hexed forge]

Past tense

[acoustic osprey]

but I suppose "Don't use force against force"

[acoustic osprey]

I mean
we only know so much

what is "freely roaming" when there is still pretty limited fences

but then depends.
Were they fencing off the dinos into sections?
Or were they fencing themselves off from the dinos?

[hexed forge]

Diff sections I suppose

[acoustic osprey]

I'd say the latter is definitely more possible

especially since Gateway seems large enough, by itself, to properly store a small family of Trex's (as if a zoo)

splitting it off into sections would certainly make it a lot more stressful for larger creatures

unless you can properly split off each section correctly for each dinosaurs

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-god-of-war-gif-11309961016585129914

[lethal moat]

What if we get arial footage from drone quetz within the dibble video

[strange shell]

The Jurassic Park novels didn't have fenced enclosures per-say, but sections as well
It didn't work out well

[acoustic osprey]

it was different in both novels

[strange shell]

I mean the first novel

[acoustic osprey]

the first novel had fences

[strange shell]

Only to divide sections
Multiple dino species shared the same enclosures
And only a small part of the island was available to humans

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah, but carnivores still contained individual pens on Nublar

it was much akin to the movie
Herbis mixpacked
carnis didn't

[fast forge]

yeah the rex had her own paddock, and the raptors were in a little pen because they were so vicious

[lethal moat]

Thanks oh great moderator

[lethal moat]

Alright everyone, Ben is under development, time to go nuts with the new roadmap

[ebon patrol]

Who’s Ben?

And why were camera updates and Ben the only ones repeating?

[lethal moat]

[lethal moat]

It’s an april fools day prank

[strange shell]

Looks like Ben took over development

[ebon patrol]

I’m stupid

I’ll still take camera updates though

Those could be useful

And be turned into lore anything is lore at this point in society

[lethal moat]

Camera update is planned, we don’t know a ton, but part of the community threw a huge fit when they were announced, which is why it’s a joke

[ebon patrol]

Is it like

[lethal moat]

You want an invite to the lore server?

[zinc narwhal]

I would love one, personally

[ebon patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-the-clone-wars-clanker-b1battle-droid-sir-gif-15920160

[lethal moat]

Sweet, I’ll DM both if you, don’t forget to check rules when you get there

[zinc narwhal]

Thanks!

[ebon patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/lootbug-lethal-company-lethal-company-loot-gif-8383565573298735433

[lethal moat]

Also, be sure to read this https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit

I will however, take this opportunity of increased people to start asking questions, Is Ben a failed attempt to make a dilo or a failed attempt to alter a dilo?

[ebon patrol]

Failed

Jokes aside I feel like dilos on evrima are possibly a mutation

As in legacy all they did was increase blood loss

For Evrima they just straight up give you a fever dream

[lethal moat]

Legacy and Evrima aren’t connected, but messing around with traits is the replicator’s whole thing ||I think|| and is the basis for the Augustus video

[ebon patrol]

Aren’t they two different islands

Both owned by the company

[lethal moat]

Nope, Legacy is getting yeeted, just a different game

[ebon patrol]

Sad….

I play legacy only for Rex

[lethal moat]

We do know that AE controls more than one island though

[lethal moat]

Rex is soonTM

[ebon patrol]

Spiro and gateway

[lethal moat]

Spiro is also currently scrapped

[ebon patrol]

I know a video where this guy possibly found the location.

Of gateway using spiro before being scrapped

[lethal moat]

There are several potential locations

[ebon patrol]

https://youtu.be/s7kIaVU2ELg?si=KWOZu_fK0HlUb4kG this is it if you want to know

Really went deep with this one

[lethal moat]

Oh yeah, Mr. Beard is pretty cool

[bold shard]

Hey there, may I get an invite to the lore server as well if it is no problem? I’m interested in learning more about the lore of The Isle ^^

[lethal moat]

He’s got a solid video, but there could be several locations, I personally think it’s in Oceana

[lethal moat]

Sure thing

[bold shard]

Thanks a lot!

[lethal moat]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit Check this out as well

[bold shard]

Will do 👌

[acoustic osprey]

still funny fences though

what, roughly 12m tall? I don't think it was feet

We have fifty miles of twelve-foot-high fencing, including
twenty-two miles around the perimeter of the island

no yeah, 12 foot

[acoustic osprey]

I will certainly say, though, that Apollo Engineering being started in Botany does mean it is harder to be exact on "what location"
As, being a bio-engineering company, they may very likely have tampered and created their own version of "X" plants, trees, etc

[fast forge]

Also some of the trees may be getting replaced with the map update - @patent ginkgo was saying they might be taking out the gum trees

[acoustic osprey]

gum trees have been here for years 💪

[patent ginkgo]

Looks like it in this picture, dunno if it’ll be all over

[acoustic osprey]

can you find the location in game rn?

[patent ginkgo]

Of that screenshot?

[acoustic osprey]

to be fair
it could've been moved to a different location

[acoustic osprey]

yes please, if you can

[fast forge]

it's the dam at NE plains

[acoustic osprey]

but that's a bit of copium

[fast forge]

but without the dam

[acoustic osprey]

i am NOT going to hop on isle right now

[patent ginkgo]

What tiny said

[fast forge]

you can see volcano in background

[patent ginkgo]

I’ve been taking a break too

[acoustic osprey]

sorry, I meant a screenshot.
not the actual location, i know where that is

[patent ginkgo]

Yeah I’ll see what I can do

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/clone-wars-star-wars-rex-fives-clones-gif-4506351670282466337

[fast forge]

new trees have this very unique curve at the base of the branch, the gum trees come straight out at a 50-80 degree angle

[ebon patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-rex-captain-roger-gif-19584908

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/yoda-fight-star-wars-gif-14173080

[ebon patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/captain-rex-star-wars-gif-23354782

[lethal moat]

Yep

[ebon patrol]

https://tenor.com/view/allow-me-dr-mamuwalde-the-house-next-door-meet-the-blacks2-let-me-do-it-ill-do-it-gif-22253451

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-104th-battalion-clone-wars-flying-aircraft-gif-17012263

https://tenor.com/view/laat-gif-24827533

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-at-at-science-fiction-scifi-gareth-edwards-gif-16965005

Take that

[ebon patrol]

That thing can survive against everything?

https://tenor.com/view/godzilla-atomic-breath-kong-the-new-empire-roar-gif-1266727831933567928

[lethal moat]

I would like to think so

[ebon patrol]

It dead now

[lethal moat]

We'll see

[patent ginkgo]

the hill got changed as well i think

[acoustic osprey]

nah, looks the same.
Just the lighting is harsher in yours

[patent ginkgo]

i mean on the dilo side of the river

[acoustic osprey]

unless you're talking about just where you are.
which is slightly different due to no dam

[patent ginkgo]

currently you cant see the river much

[acoustic osprey]

this section is adjusted, yeah

but the sides seem like they "go back to normal"

[patent ginkgo]

yeah that side seems the same

just some bushes over to the far right

[acoustic osprey]

mmmm

[shadow compass]

Red dead type grass

[hexed forge]

I hope the fence at NE finally connects to the other section of fences near C14

here

[lethal moat]

More fences!

[hexed forge]

Yes, I love fences.

There is a path up here, so there will likely to be a gate somewhere in the fence up there.

But one of the biggest mysteries of gateway, whats the errant "Map", is it a guide of gateway/Are those locations on gateway? Or is each section a different island?

[lethal moat]

That moment when it's not even gateway

[hexed forge]

If those are islands it would be awesome too tho

[lethal moat]

That moment when Dondi removes it from the continuity

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/crycat-crying-cat-crying-cat-thumbs-up-thumbs-up-ok-gif-17048449662472934214

Dondi was pretty active in isle discussion today, I hope he checks lore theories

[hexed forge]

Omg, rumple. I just realized its you 💀

[lethal moat]

Stealth mode

[crystal cairn]

ooo this comparison is nice

is this lore related though? let me scroll

[patent ginkgo]

The trees are interesting to think about from a lore pov but are unimportant, though that’s how we ended up on the topic

[crystal cairn]

gotchya

[hexed forge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OzCCQISKtQ I TOLD YOU PEOPLE

[lethal moat]

HOLY HELL

[hexed forge]

I JUST WON 50 DOLLARS

[fast forge]

woooooooooooo

Video has the new plants

[hexed forge]

@acoustic osprey Wake uppp

[lethal moat]

Chip tracking system

[hexed forge]

I SUMMON LORE PEOPLE

[acoustic osprey]

Oh my

[lethal moat]

This is the best one I could find

These transitions have got me working

[lethal moat]

I found the damn screen

This the best one

[fast forge]

ooh fun surprise at the end!

[acoustic osprey]

Sadly away from home
I'll have a look I a sec

[lethal moat]

Guess who found the person

1:07 timestamp

[fallow harbor]

so, is it rex or alberto or allo

ima say it’s red

rex *

[fast forge]

rex, because it's next after dibble

[patent ginkgo]

Rex is clear to me

Unique grandeur in the footsteps

[fallow harbor]

exactly

[hexed forge]

I thought its a sauropod

[patent ginkgo]

So uh, what do we think those things are in the foreground? They kinda look like roots, but I think they might just be rocks

[fast forge]

I thought for a sec it was droppings, but they build a nest on that spot, so probably rocks

[lethal moat]

There's so many transitions that have so much stuff

[fast forge]

ikr?

[ionic sable]

Interesting editing choice.

I was expecting another terminal style, but this is a welcome change, and much more in line with what I'd expect for this kind of teaser.

[lethal moat]

A recovery

[patent ginkgo]

Interesting that we now know that Gen 2 complete tasks in the wild areas of gateway

[fast forge]

So we can pretty confidently say that Herra and Dibble's 0.1.2 designation is probably a strain #, not ID's of individual animals

[lethal moat]

I'm only 1:20 in from taking screenshots

[hexed forge]

We came to that conclusion a long time ago tho

[fast forge]

sorry, strain in the general biology sense, not what it means re: the history of this game

[fast forge]

I figured it was probably true, but this really confirms it for me

[patent ginkgo]

What’s “R”

[fast forge]

oh, it took place last year

[patent ginkgo]

On the 43rd month…

[fast forge]

yes 🤡

what's causing EM damage to their cams?

[hexed forge]

Neuro!!! ahah

[lethal moat]

Magnets damage certain digital and analog storage devices

[hexed forge]

Wait. What?

[fast forge]

a joke

[bold crater]

Neurotenic trickery was actually my first thought when I read that.

[fast forge]

I see, so dibble was rubbing magnets on the cam, gotcha

[patent ginkgo]

I love the 43 months of the year

[lethal moat]

I'm going to record this and go frame by frame later

These transitions are too fast lol

[patent ginkgo]

It’s a work of art

Genuinely best vid they’ve released imo

[lethal moat]

I still haven't finished it

[patent ginkgo]

And full of important lore

The end is really something

[lethal moat]

I'll document it, but I do have important things to do tonight

[fast forge]

100%, it's really nice, I love the slow parts where not much is going on, just vibing

[hexed forge]

This took place in sector F5

[fast forge]

the ocean, I see

[young viper]

https://tenor.com/view/jake-gyllenhaal-velvet-buzzsaw-wtf-is-that-what-is-that-what-you-doing-gif-14634292

[hexed forge]

Oh wait a second. Ours is inaccurate

@acoustic osprey I think you need to make a more clear one

[fast forge]

there's a definitely a better frame there, but I couldn't catch it

[hexed forge]

Oh wait no, its not inaccurate

Dondi I think there is a small mistake, or im just stupid.

[patent ginkgo]

There’s a new grid in the vid

[hexed forge]

Yes, and that too points into the ocean/coast. While the actual injection site is in swamp.

[fast forge]

those two grids match pretty well

I'd say GW_F5 is something else

[hexed forge]

We cant just overlook a mistake.

[patent ginkgo]

Are we sure those numbers start from 1

[fast forge]

nothing says that GW_F5 has to be coordinates

[hexed forge]

Yes, you can see it. 01, 02, etc

[patent ginkgo]

I can’t read it well enough

[hexed forge]

GW_H4 was a place.

[icy onyx]

dondi made a mistake

[hexed forge]

OR, F5 Is simply a placeholder and doesnt exist

Which I HOPE, is not....

[lethal moat]

Or that's not what F5 means

[icy onyx]

f5 means refresh

[lethal moat]

I'll dissect it in a bit, but for now, I have scholarship work

[hexed forge]

What else could it mean? GW_H4 was a place location. Why would GW_F5 not be.

[lethal moat]

What if we got that wrong as well

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/oopsies-ohno-gif-25793283

https://tenor.com/view/batman-thinking-thinking-about-you-think-thinking-of-you-gif-20503421

[young viper]

what are the small green dots?

[lethal moat]

Diablos

[young viper]

oh

[fast forge]

they are the same color as the numbers on the right, under "AE Chiptracking System"

[hexed forge]

I dont think so.

[timber sky]

New spawns?

[hallow rover]

Ima go to bed and leave you lot to this feast

[young viper]

i see a dot on the dome!!

[hexed forge]

Nein

[lethal moat]

Injection site is also interesting, down at the bottom

[timber sky]

XD

[hexed forge]

Something else, def not diablos. Because there is like 7 diablos on the injection sight lmao

[timber sky]

Does say chip tracking system, so maybe it's showing us the location of some dinosars? (being the new ones, idk)

[hexed forge]

Location of herds

[lethal moat]

We know chip tracking is a thing, wonder if we'll be able to access it in game

[hexed forge]

Im guessing that the numbers is the location of herds

[lethal moat]

I'd say individuals, you can see the group all in one spot

[icy onyx]

dont think one chip would locate few dinos

[timber sky]

ai Herds? So it could feed the new carni?

[lethal moat]

Or designation of tracking chip

[hexed forge]

Oh wait, Im sorry rumple. You are right, those are individuals.

But... This isnt at riverdelta

[fast forge]

9 numeric designations on the sidebar, and 9 dots (discounting the glitch dot)

[lethal moat]

Try turning it away from the river

[hexed forge]

Hold on, ima go ingame and geolocate it

[hexed forge]

Clearly a minmi

[lethal moat]

Allo perhaps

[young viper]

alberto ig

[timber sky]

what I was thinking too

[fast forge]

I'm in a queue to do that too

[acoustic osprey]

Looks like our prediction of H4 is correct

[hexed forge]

Its def not an allo

[young viper]

or rex or alberto

[hexed forge]

Yes but then, look at F5(THe location of the camera)

[fast forge]

but the designation for this video, F5, doesn't really make sense

[acoustic osprey]

Wasnt that April fools

[snow jasper]

Look, new text

:(

[fast forge]

we've seen this text a few times here

[snow jasper]

It gets worse

[acoustic osprey]

Dr ■■■■■■■■■

[lethal moat]

This was inconvinient timing

[acoustic osprey]

In the video?

[fast forge]

Here

[hexed forge]

Individual assets I guess.

[fast forge]

Here

[timber sky]

XD

[fast forge]

that last one seems the most legible to me, mostly talking about the video being compiled

[snow jasper]

Loss of cameras, or loss of potatos

[hexed forge]

@lethal moat Its clearly a rex btw, not allo if you watch the clip at the end again ahha

[young viper]

it shows after the secret dino shadow

[lethal moat]

I am busy

[hexed forge]

Potatos, not cameras. Numbers dont align

[young viper]

@acoustic osprey

[acoustic osprey]

?

[young viper]

^

[snow jasper]

makes sense, didn't even acknowledge the part where it clearly says "CLIPTRACKING" 😩

[acoustic osprey]

Of what thing though?

[acoustic osprey]

Well
It is off K15, I12 and the many other locations matching with locations

[young viper]

At the end of this clip

[hexed forge]

Thats a rex 100%

[acoustic osprey]

Well
Most cameras are "DLSR"
Electromagnetic interference is definitely a thing that can affect footage

[strong forge]

Guys, lets be honest, It is to hard to tell