isle-lore-theories

[patent ginkgo]

I guess we assume in

[pale marsh]

Using real animals makes most sense
But there's nothing u can use to answer why dinos that I couldn't go "why not early synapsids"

[acoustic osprey]

but, at least, we have Domes (biodomes) to also emulate certain environments

which I believe Don talked about last year

[acoustic osprey]

most sense

most sense to what though?
That's the answer Dondi would have to answer to make it have sense

[patent ginkgo]

Biodomes with cool plants? Yes please

[pale marsh]

Point of reference

Regardless of the goal
Using something that you have proof existed is easier than like
Making a dragon

[acoustic osprey]

aye

[pale marsh]

I'd much rather work off fossils
Than medieval paintings myself

[acoustic osprey]

to be fair though
most medieval paintings look bad (in western europe) due to religious religions

[patent ginkgo]

Are we sure that the dinos and such are hidden from the public eye?

[pale marsh]

True but not the point

[acoustic osprey]

so an untrained eye at the time (your average commoner) wouldn't know what the heck anything was

[acoustic osprey]

[acoustic osprey]

Who knows
just that 90% is shown
10% is hidden (likely paraphrased by Don)

dinos could be known
but strain? Maybe not

we know strains, at least, have connections with medicine
so maybe AE/Apollo has some sort of PR about strains?

or it's akin to putting needles in your strawberries

you ain't gonna know till you take the wrong bite

[pale marsh]

I doubt the public knows about strains as we know them
But may have access to the final product of said strains

[acoustic osprey]

I doubt the public knows about strains as we know them
i agree

[lethal moat]

I'm betting everything on Gateway, or at least 99% of it, is in the shadow realm

[acoustic osprey]

if there ever existed a final product that is

[pale marsh]

True

[acoustic osprey]

I mean, Gateway, the name itself, is pretty alluring

[patent ginkgo]

I wonder if AE’s first progress with dinos was celebrated publicly as an advance in science but slowly became either unexciting or more secretive, following the lines of society’s slow decline in interest or growth in interest in other things, while AE took advantage of the situation, continuing and twisting the work in different, more experimental, ways

[pale marsh]

I'm sure there's
Minimum a prototype product
That I hope can be found and used in gameplay fpr humans

[acoustic osprey]

like the gates of heaven
maybe gateway is minimally known

but what's inside those gates? (gateway itself)
is like inside heaven. You will never know.
Till you're there 😊

[acoustic osprey]

gotta make money somehow!
However Strains will/have been used

i don't think there has been, yet, a good insight to what strains have been made for though, yeah?

Can not remember

[lethal moat]

Also like heaven, you’re likely to die before you get there

[acoustic osprey]

😊

[patent ginkgo]

there were medical implications i thought, but that doesnt necessarily translate to the original purpose/vision

i do wonder what any of AE's vision is

and how much of it is truly that of AE

[lethal moat]

I wonder how invasive strain implementation is? Is it a shot or a whole procedure

[acoustic osprey]

aye, we know medieval implications
but apparently that wasn't the reason

[patent ginkgo]

im guessing controlled viral transmission of some sort

[acoustic osprey]

if all strains are, to some extent, failed versions of their (AEs) goals
I would say, likely, that the reason why most are pretty destructive (their bodies) is likely due to how invasive such aspect would be in it's body

[patent ginkgo]

i wonder if AE has/had any project(s) related to some impending disease?

[lethal moat]

Don, if you’re still lurking, are we allowed to know AE’s country of origin/headquartered country and does that matter?

[acoustic osprey]

(and I wonder if the QWERTZ keyboards might allude to such)

or maybe it's because VisualTech is Croatian

[lethal moat]

Mhm

I can’t wait for the Isle x My Little Pony crossover foretold in the prophecy

[patent ginkgo]

[lethal moat]

I don’t think you’ve gotten that far into the isle battlepass yet Jolly

Anyways, would the replicator find normal animals sufficient or preferable to animals that it’s created in terms of the sacrificing and thing

Because if it prefers certain things, we might be able to figure out why sacrifices

[ionic sable]

Every time I tab into the lore channel...

Rumple says something that could be described as a bit odd.

[patent ginkgo]

yep

also, has anyone found those boxes that someone saw on hordetest?

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[acoustic osprey]

the ones Jayce saw? I'll have a look

they were, apparently, near I12

[patent ginkgo]

ive been looking for em

in admin mode, cant find em

someone told me they saw some near south plains too

[lethal moat]

I’m just a silly lil guy

Here’s another distinguishing thing between the different types of gen 1, v1 looks carnivorous and v2 looks omnivorous

Actually wait, v2 doesn’t have back teeth, v1 does, that implies omnivorous for v1 and something else for v2

V2’s mouth doesn’t look particularly well suited for food

[acoustic osprey]

can't find em as well

must've been a bug?

[patent ginkgo]

i wonder if they got removed

[acoustic osprey]

maybe

[patent ginkgo]

would be funny if theyre still there but just invisable

[acoustic osprey]

hmmm

[pale marsh]

Herbivory but it grinds plant matter with a gizzard and gastroliths

Like
Uhhh
What sauropods did

[acoustic osprey]

stone bellies

[lethal moat]

His stomach is concave, I doubt it’s that

V2 just seems less adept at surviving, which makes me think that one might be smarter and/or better at making tools

[pale marsh]

Honestly
To me
It kinda just vindicates the idea that tribals can not survive WITHOUT the replicator

[lethal moat]

Could be a symbiotic relationship

Both rely on the other

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/look-up-scared-willem-dafoe-gif-17761333

[lethal moat]

Was thinking about the existence of sabotage, if AE isn’t allied with any specific government and doesn’t use its research for military purposes, governments could be working to take what they want rather than going through legal means

[strange shell]

Ok but for that there would need to be a use for genetically engineered dinos

[lethal moat]

What if they don’t know and they just want gene altering technologies to make weapons

Spy get eaten by Dino he was not ready for

[strange shell]

Only the american government would be stupid enough to do that

[lethal moat]

[acoustic osprey]

upfront ego
Longterm? Who knows

but once you get going and know how to do it
possibly it's likely that creating such isn't that cost-heavy or that, now that they have this good handful of dinosaurs, they don't really need to switch to modern animals? For whatever purpose they are for

[fallow harbor]

what if they are using dinosaurs as a way to get around laws

[acoustic osprey]

maybe

[fallow harbor]

as maybe dinosaurs wouldnt be classified as aniamls or anything so they just use them as a loophole to do their unimaginable experiemnts and torture things

[acoustic osprey]

it's a bit cliche, but I can see this one reason why to do dinos

[fallow harbor]

tbh its prolly not just ONE reason of "why dinos"

id gamble that there is like 5 main reasons as to why dinos and the legality of it being one of those 5 mian reasons

[remote dew]

game name:

[lethal moat]

The aisle

[remote dew]

https://tenor.com/view/the-weeknd-the-weeknd-blow-kiss-abel-tesfaye-abel-blow-kiss-gif-10657712122791953036

[lethal moat]

I feel like strains undergoing some sort of metamorphosis wouldn’t be out of the question, maybe a cocoon/tank/vat

[hexed forge]

Lore

[wicked brook]

That would be cool it’s takes a lot of energy to change that much

[lethal moat]

Mhm, drastic changes would be better applied over time rather than just grotesque ultra fast mutations

[wicked brook]

Or like a caterpillar turns into goo before rebuilding everything from that. Apparently they still remember being caterpillars after

But it requires they store a lot of energy beforehand

Perhaps, you acquire the mutation you need but can’t change until you fill extra hunger bars completely full.

[acoustic osprey]

was thinking about this

would be quite interesting

[mortal hound]

is that the guy from fortnite

also anyone found anything interesting around the map?

[lethal moat]

Back to your hole

[lethal moat]

We’re getting a grid/sector system in the dibble video

[mortal hound]

sounds cool

[meager junco]

The wall(fence)

[lethal moat]

Iron belly is a good old thing for finding stuff

[meager junco]

It is. I do like the style of the entire site

[lethal moat]

On the topic of fences, how many sectors do you think there will end up being on Gateway? I’m betting 3-4

[meager junco]

But honestly, this is what interests me the most.
Seeing they’ve had a “huge dome” planned for a while now, much before gateway and perimeter were even thought of

[lethal moat]

I really hope the fences end up connecting to the domes somehow, might help us determine the domes’ purpose

[meager junco]

I’m guessing something like east, west and maybe the north, as swamps feels like it’s not an area they wanted the animals in

[lethal moat]

Different domes being associated with sectors might work

[meager junco]

I like that idea

[lethal moat]

Have spawning depend on which sector your dino belongs in???

That actually could be fun, you can move between sectors, but the replicator puts you in specific areas

[meager junco]

All we need truly is a bit more fences and I bet we can guess where most sectors will be,
Helping us differentiate different parts of the island better, and I see it working even better for humans.
Example : Sector A is filled with Gen 1s and there are no active human structures
Sector A is locked for spawning

[lethal moat]

Dynamic spawning?

[fallow harbor]

#general-feedback message

but randomized spawning is better imo

[lethal moat]

I knew that’d draw someone in lol

Lore based spawning sounds very appealing

Have balanced ecosystems within sectors and have stuff from other sectors be able to come in and disrupt that

[meager junco]

I just don’t want it to be extremely easy to pick up your “dropped loot” after dying

“Oh I died, guess I’ll just walk for 5 minutes and get all my stuff back”

[lethal moat]

Have to follow the Dino and wait for it to poop out your pistol magazine

[meager junco]

Wasn’t that teased?

Not the follow a Dino for it to poop but looting a Dino’s stomach contents for loot

[lethal moat]

Not sure

Post the quarry thing here, I think it looks neat

Maybe just the first one

[meager junco]

But yeh I was playing this game over the weekend and first thought was “werewolf Gen 1”

Crap!

[lethal moat]

Gen 1 v3 perhaps?

[lethal moat]

I meant the opposite, those two are the ones I thought might be troublesome lol

[meager junco]

I mean I wouldn’t be surprised if the replicator gets curious and creates things for fun

Dinosaur like Gen 1s? Hell yeh I can see it happening

[meager junco]

SCREW IT, #doitforthelore

[lethal moat]

We need more replicator info, but I think it depends what the purpose of gen 1 is and how diverse they get

[lethal moat]

Well now you have to post the 3rd one

[meager junco]

Goddamnit

NOW

[lethal moat]

lol

[meager junco]

So let’s pretend the idea that EIPS is real for a second for the sake of argument, clearly Gen 1 wouldn’t be something in the lines of being a dinosaur, meaning I doubt that people want to become Gen 1s

[lethal moat]

Maybe it’s a “they didn’t read the fine print and are now suffering for it” type situation, my specialty

[meager junco]

This is going off EIPS and stuff but I’m thinking it’s possible that in a way, gen 1 and gen 2 are the “perfect humans” but not for work reasons and stuff but for the reason of having a new body and live a-….thousand lives….huh

Why did that make sense

[lethal moat]

Research purposes into immortality dependent on the replicator?

[meager junco]

Damn I just created a masterpiece idea(probably not it at all tho )

[lethal moat]

I had a similar idea a bit ago, it makes sense with everything we know, but it’s also kind of wonky to think about

[meager junco]

But I can see something like that for sure, especially with how everything has been setup, let’s say the goal was to create the “perfect husks” in a way, this is a project for AEs higher ups, they’ll live for thousands of years, making improvements on humanity as it goes on

[lethal moat]

Mhm

[meager junco]

Yeh the wonky ideas always seem to be on the right path tho

[lethal moat]

You explained it better than I did lol

[meager junco]

Hehehe, but yeh I like that idea

We’ll just have to wait and see

[lethal moat]

I wonder what the human (real humans) population of gateway was like, amount of people, percentage of researchers vs security members, maintenance people, etc

[meager junco]

I mean for the facilities, easily hundreds maybe even thousands depending on how they’re built and how many there are under gateway

[lethal moat]

Everything underground changes what we know quite a bit

[meager junco]

Yeh if it’s just Tartarus and some entrances than probably around 100+ but maybe less because Tartarus is top hush hush

That’s just for that facility btw not all of gateway

[lethal moat]

Perimeter is large enough to house a lot of people

One sec, let me get some statistics

[meager junco]

It’s literally the size of a small town

Maybe bigger

[lethal moat]

Aircraft carriers house 5,000 people, if Perimiter is to be compared to that in terms of personnel required for optimal performance, then the island could have had a ton of people, but it depends how much of the island is automated

[meager junco]

Also one thing we kinda don’t mention or say, is how we’re generally talking about how many people can be on the ground and still have space to get by each other, if there’s walkways, structures and buildings that go up, you can fit much more than previously thought

[lethal moat]

The local Carno finding a large group of people evacuating through a bottleneck

We talk about what happened to the researchers but don’t really talk about the population

https://tenor.com/view/lets-talk-about-that-urge-persuade-serious-rhett-mc-laughlin-gif-12726853

[meager junco]

Ngl seeing a gigantic wave of 5000 people just flooding out perimeter as sirens go by would be wholesome lol

[meager junco]

I GUESS! Um. Um. 5643 exactly!

[lethal moat]

Might be a titanic situation where there isn’t enough lifeboats for everyone to get off the island

Oh lord, having human skeletons scattered heavily indoors in the docks would be interesting to explore

[meager junco]

Or in this case, remove the witnesses by nudging them down a hole cough Tartarus pit cough

[lethal moat]

Imagine being excited to get your first keycard, using it on the dock masters building, and just finding massive groups of skeletons clinging to each other in death, that’s some emotional damage right there

“I wanted guns, but all I found were a ton of dead people”

[meager junco]

I wish we’d get something like that but I feel like it be too “non PG”

I do hope for survivor letter as well

Letters*

People who couldn’t escape

[lethal moat]

The isle is supposed to be 15+, we have nude models, I would be surprised if we get something like that

What happened to those that didn’t get out is a question of all time

[meager junco]

I like to think that someone out there got left behind, and they’re genuinely just living their life with the dinosaurs, of course being very careful but just surveying the animals and doing research on them because “I’m on an island with dinosaurs for the rest of my life, why not make the best of it”

[lethal moat]

Security man and researcher elite combo, the ultimate wholesome survival bros
and then they were roommates

[meager junco]

The Jim and Shirley Show!

[lethal moat]

lol

It depends on how the island was abandoned

Maybe everyone made it off and it was abandoned on purpose

Or maybe nobody made it off

[meager junco]

I mean I’m assuming they got something out of all this despite leaving the islands, I think they always had plans to come back but I also think they wouldn’t leave until at least one of their goals was completed

[lethal moat]

Mhm, more information would be crazy (dondi please I beg of you)

[meager junco]

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-spare-change-spare-some-change-begging-poor-gif-18999842

[lethal moat]

Time to get nih to help me make those “aliens built the pyramids” style videos for AE and say the US military is the reason the island was abandoned

[meager junco]

Plot twist: AEs dinosaurs died from an alien virus sent from Pluto

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/alex-jones-gif-22871182

[meager junco]

https://tenor.com/view/bh187-rage-yes-gif-19179343

[lethal moat]

That’s us whenever we get a theory right

[meager junco]

LOL

[lethal moat]

That comparison works better than I like

[remote dew]

Hey it's me the weeknd 😂

[acoustic osprey]

Aye, I am glad they went with the idea (or if Don asked them to explore the idea of) of that near-gritty-brutalist but still very industrial vibe going on with buildings.
It helps especially with weathered aspects.

[acoustic osprey]

Punch, a few years ago now, commented on the possibility of dinosaurs eating your bodies.
With the chance of your loot being eaten and gone.

nothing about looting dino stomachs.
Which I hope not- it'll just incentivise killing to a greater extent.

[meager junco]

The site itself is just really great, I hope for something similar in the future

[meager junco]

Ah ok that’s what it was, I couldn’t recall exactly what the details were

[lethal moat]

Have to get a new wood stock after the tyrannosaurus stomach acid ruined it

[meager junco]

Loot on a timer?

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/menin-tights-careyelwes-face-side-gif-6096908

such concept would be interesting.
But would have to be play tested a lot

[lethal moat]

That is a sacrifice and a burden I am willing to take on

Imagine killing a random allo and finding 3 guys worth of loot in there

Luckiest man on the island

Or someone who lured the allo there because he didn’t want to take on the team himself

[narrow furnace]

Sounds crazy xD

[lethal moat]

I’m really excited about finding lore in game

Like, really good stuff like security footage or incident reports

Then Lorecord can make a website as a lore library

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/stannis-baretheon-gif-18874142

[narrow furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/csgo-dragon-lore-dignitas-gaming-awp-dragon-lore-gif-25682065

me 2

[topaz charm]

I think you are right about them going back, seeing theres two buttons on the side of the screen that says humans Mercenary and Natives cant actually play as them but

[strange shell]

It's not mercenaries and natives
It's generation 1 and generation 2
None of which are actual humans

[acoustic osprey]

Well...

[topaz charm]

I didn't know, it said Humans and had Mercenary and Tribals So I just thought

[topaz charm]

Well?

[strange shell]

But that's the thing
The two buttons don't say "mercernaries" and "tribals" they say generation 1 and generation 2

[strange shell]

That's legacy

[topaz charm]

I was just saying what I saw

[strange shell]

Alright
Basically every legacy lore is dumped

[topaz charm]

Im fairly new I didn't know that

Why was it dumped anyways

[strange shell]

The lore is being remade with Evrima

I guess Dondi didn't like the old one and wanted to make something better, more thought-out

All you need to know, is that now there canonically are giant lobsters in the sea

[topaz charm]

Thats exactly what I want to play as

[acoustic osprey]

sadly you're going off old legacy here

and the thing is.
This is pre-2018 lore

sorry, late reply as well.
Was out for my mates basketball game. He won!

[acoustic osprey]

the idea of Gen2s and 1s were, roughly, introduced within 2018

[topaz charm]

That's Awesome

[acoustic osprey]

yeah!!

[acoustic osprey]

but, about this point you made

i think it's quite interesting that we're not getting Mercs
Which showcases that this isn't going to be some hunting ground for humans to kill dinos

[topaz charm]

Yeah I got that when you said old lore

[acoustic osprey]

oh no, I don't mean in that sense.
I mean, "because we don't have mercs and natives anymore" the inverse is applied

but the thing is.
It's a lot more broad.

Which is quite interesting

who knows, truly, the purpose of these things
Both Gen2s and Ones

HECK
even dinosaurs at this point

[topaz charm]

Yeah Well I want to see where it goes

[acoustic osprey]

yeah! It's quite interesting

[topaz charm]

Very

[acoustic osprey]

it's something always something really fun to ponder

[topaz charm]

Yeah especially cause they can go anywhere with it

[modern rover]

huh

[acoustic osprey]

sorry, wrong ping

[modern rover]

hmm

[acoustic osprey]

saw scammer and wanted to ping moderator

[patent ginkgo]

<@&933486433342222376>

[kindred bobcat]

the mannis!!!

[viral apex]

I DIAGNOSE YOU WITH MEGA CRABS

[lost mango]

LMAO

[hexed forge]

WHO LIVES UNDER THE SEA?

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-who-lives-in-a-banana-under-the-sea-spongebob-squarepants-banana-banana-peel-gif-23829008

[pseudo fable]

Not entirely true. Original story did not have plans for nearly this amount of content. It was so much simpler.

So much easier. 😓

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/more-kylo-ren-adam-driver-screaming-star-wars-gif-17734637

[pseudo fable]

OG game and story was obscenely simple, worldbuilding aside.

Defunct AE islands raided by two+ opposing governing bodies.

Ecosystem on the islands were connected to the Replicator that views anything non-AE as a threat, so the entire island was out to kill you because you were the invader and it didn't matter who you are or what intentions you may have.

[meager junco]

https://tenor.com/view/write-that-down-taking-notes-school-universities-university-gif-17937210

[lethal moat]

And now we have people pondering the societal and economic implications of Gen 1

[pseudo fable]

Gameplay revolved around "Are you human?"

If yes, time to go recon and take whatever information you can find. Physical, digital, etc.

If no, tolerate no trespassers.

https://tenor.com/lbmc7JixWPK.gif

[lethal moat]

I just pictured a pachy racking a shotgun and saying get off my lawn

[meager junco]

As long as we can still gets bits of lore information

I’m happy

[pseudo fable]

You didn't even have that.

Deinonychus, Tyrannosaur, Carnotaurus (We did swap from concepts of megaraptor to carno before I said yes to far too many things).

[lethal moat]

Interesting

[meager junco]

Deinonychus my boy

[pseudo fable]

You have the same basic thing don't start with me.

[lethal moat]

You did say you bent to what others wanted quite a bit when I asked on stream that one time

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/0bCO.gif

[meager junco]

I can wait for mods when it comes to most creatures tbh

[pseudo fable]

I did. Look at the history of dinosaur games. As a fan, categorically, we were getting absolutely crushed under constant game cancellations or absolutely soulless releases.

I felt I was in a position to do something for everyone who liked dinosaur games by putting more in than I initially intended because I could and if I were a fan of dinosaur games, I'd have been thrilled that someone would just say, "Okay, I'll do it then."

It mostly feels as though I've inspired further soulless duplicates and made the genre worse for it. It's not the best feeling.

It has yet to be, "Dinosaur games work. Let's make a dinosaur game!" & is very much, "The Isle works. Let's do that!"

[pale marsh]

Well, isn't that pretty normal for the start of game genres? Iirc that's basically what happened after Wolfenstein and doom

[pseudo fable]

Hard same.

[pseudo fable]

I don't really think the Isle is "the start of a genre" and can be made an apt comparison to Doom or Wolfenstein.

[lethal moat]

It’s revolutionary, but not necessarily the origin?

[meager junco]

I mean in terms of what it is I think we can say it is it’s first? That being a dinosaur survival simulator

But it’s definitely not the first game of its type

Also it’s not entirely dinosaurs, we got AE creations and humanoids

[pale marsh]

Maybe,maybe not, I think it's mostly a matter of time to see

[lethal moat]

Well that, and it’s one of the only games I can think of that incorporates such a variety of play styles and objectives into one game, World or tanks/planes/warships tried that but ended up making a bunch of separate games instead

[pale marsh]

Kinda just
Waiting for someone to not be lazy and actually innovate on the idea

[meager junco]

I’m curious to what don plans to do once the isle is finished and really on the path he wants it to be

[patent ginkgo]

The isle is cool because it’s realistic, but also incorporates obviously not real stuff, which is something that’s evident both ingame and in lore

[pale marsh]

I could care less about realism, heck, sometimes I prefer outright fantasy

I just think the isles near and could be fun when it's more complete

[meager junco]

Me waiting for strains release

[pale marsh]

Need
Gen 1

[meager junco]

Gen 1 would be nice but I hope Gen 1 releases with Gen 2 when both are fully complete or at least have most of their functions and equipments completed

[pale marsh]

Probably not gonna happen, I'm wholely expecting it to be released and finished incrementally, like, almost everything else

[meager junco]

Yeh they’ll most likely get the “Gen 2 treatment” and go in unnoficials at first before getting them more done along the way

But I bet they don’t have as many mechanics to do, since we know gen 2s will be getting a wide variety of gear

Watch don come out and say they’re even harder to develop lol

[pale marsh]

I mean, conceptually (afaik) gen 2 is probably the most basic out of everything in the game

[meager junco]

Technically yeh it’s the “human”

[pale marsh]

Just, so what every other shooter game that's even vaguely similar has done

And there you go
You have the basis of gen2

[meager junco]

That’s true the human template is already done across all games, it’s the other things that are quite a task to do

[pale marsh]

Yuh, probably,
It's also possible a dev pops in says we're all completely wrong, idk

Idk how game dev actually works :p

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/69sm.gif

[meager junco]

Hey if you retire from game development that’s fine honestly, you’ve been on this project for a while

[pseudo fable]

The current Gen1 design is far closer to animal than human, despite physical appearance. They don't have too much complication, they just look humanoid.

Doing a tribal Gen1 experience is going to be the great undertaking that requires far more care.

[meager junco]

I had a feeling you’d say something along those lines

[pseudo fable]

I have no idea if I'd ever make a game after this tbf.

There is a good chunk of the team that is pretty adamant I must embark on a horror game.

But at this time I have zero desires beyond the endpoint of the Isle.

[edgy pike]

Are you still hoping for something I think you said a few years ago where The Isle serves as a kind of openly moddable platform for people to made their own gamemodes/experiences with?

[pseudo fable]

Hoping? Yes. Expecting? Not at all.

[meager junco]

That’s fair, I’m sure you could pull of a horror game tho, have you ever thought about adding a very short campaign mode for the isle? Something like 6-8 hours long, playing as a human and getting a sort of “alien isolation” style thing going

[edgy pike]

What's getting in the way of that in the future do you think?

[pseudo fable]

I don't think anything is particularly in the way. I just don't have that faith.

[edgy pike]

I mean we got some pretty nice modded maps and that was only with limited tools for the community

[pseudo fable]

Did you?

[edgy pike]

idk i never played them i just heard good things

[pseudo fable]

Then you can't really say such a thing for certain, can you?

[lethal moat]

I never played legacy

[edgy pike]

there were pretty resounding praises for them, i wasnt that active at the time so ig i missed the complaints. point is mods have increased longevity of countless games and there's gotta be dozens of people at the very least with high skill sets waiting to be able to do stuff with this game surely?

[signal wolf]

What if you made a single player rpg based on isle lore? I’d def play that

[pseudo fable]

Considering that this is all conjecture with no basis, I'm going to place my loosely estimated guesses about which maps were being praised as "great modded maps" and remind you that I'm quite certain it was minor edits to marketplace maps that people did.

That's all.

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/bzrnL.gif

[signal wolf]

Oh

[lethal moat]

[signal wolf]

I’ll help :3

[meager junco]

A single player mode to understand the lore would be nice imo, just for the people who don’t know exactly what the isle even is

[signal wolf]

A mode could work I guess. Single player version for a human rpg experience and PvE

[meager junco]

But I was thinking more something very short and brief, kinda like how alien isolation is, instead of xenos it’s more omnis and troodons and maybe even a Rex at some point, but what would really be nice is if a neuro or tisso strain was the main antagonist and was hunting you throughout the whole story

[limber parrot]

im guessing this is why strains were originally only meant for carnivores. The intention was to kill and who'd do it better than the ones driven by hunger

[strange shell]

You underestimate the power of sheer spite

[lethal moat]

We’ll just have to catalog and make a library of everything that we find

[limber parrot]

Yeah, but i feel like spite and hunger stack with one another

[strange shell]

You're more hungry with an empty belly
And herbivores can't eat the bodies of those they kill
So they anger only keeps on growing with each kill

[meager junco]

Yeh for the deep stuff but I meant something to just help new players understand what the isle is, like how AE created dinosaurs and strains that apply to these dinosaurs, definitely not the super deep stuff like why was the replicator created/activated

[limber parrot]

herbivores can eat at any given time, carnivores need to kill first

[signal wolf]

Modded single player 😊

[meager junco]

That’s true, I’m sure they’ll allow some cool mods

[lethal moat]

That’s our job to teach the next generation of isle players

[meager junco]

https://tenor.com/view/the-goon-dodgeball-movie-ben-stiller-white-goodman-gif-14923367

[lethal moat]

That, and to find and eliminate people who spread misinformation

[limber parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/steal-this-is-mine-run-gif-15431338

[lethal moat]

I about smote Voyager when he thought the camera system was first person and told others that

[signal wolf]

😦.

[meager junco]

I try to avoid the new camera system talk until it’s more developed and known about

[signal wolf]

I was joking. I never told people it was first person. I said almost first person or confused third person

Dondi please don’t ban me 🙏

I NEVER spread misinformation

[meager junco]

BAN HIM(I kid)

[signal wolf]

[pseudo fable]

It was all carnivores because then I didn't have to design against players being murderhobos. They could be what they are.

[limber parrot]

Im hyped for the experience, and don reinforced that hype about 20-30 minutes ago. still, im just hoping to get some way of observing the entirety of my creature, maybe by ceasing all movement or something along those lines

[pseudo fable]

Not likely. I really don't want the UAV to remain. It definitely has its place as a camera for... not this type of game.

So it probably will not be abolished from the files, but it won't be used with standard gameplay. Maybe server option for people that like training wheels EZmode.

[limber parrot]

Guess i can look at my creature in the character creator, if i need to then, lol. But thanks for the clarification.

[meager junco]

As long as I can take a pic like this

[pseudo fable]

Unlikely without replay.

[lethal moat]

A solid replay mode could make for good pictures

[meager junco]

Damn even from that close? I was hoping to at least see my face fully when playing

[limber parrot]

so, wheres the dude that said real life rex was scarier? lmao

[meager junco]

I mean that new Rex call they THINK Rex did would sound pretty creepy at night imo

[signal wolf]

I guess a photo mode could work

[meager junco]

I bet that falls into the category of UAV tho, if you’re speaking of ingame photo mode I mean

Unless it freezes the actual picture

[signal wolf]

Like switching into photo mode. It will freeze the surrounding areas and you can move around freely. The Crew 2 (online mp game) has that and it works pretty well

[limber parrot]

true, but i also think that isle rex does the trick quite well. i hope that wedge may take some time to look at the friendly call though, as back in legacy it sounded more like a screech and was, imo, a bit too high pitch for what kind of creature rex is

[pseudo fable]

You are controlling an animal. The animal is trying to look where your camera is aimed. That representation needs to be in the game. Aiming your camera behind yourself is for viewing things behind the animal. It is not for a photoshoot. That's simply how it is.

[signal wolf]

[lethal moat]

The best way to get photos is probably going to be either having a friend help or replay mode

[strange shell]

Pick Gen2, grab a camera in an abandoned facility and sacrifice your life for the beauty of seeing the inside of a rex's mouth

And hope the camera can survive gastric acid

[lethal moat]

We need to put a photographer in the back of the jeep in "Drive Craig Crive!"

[pseudo fable]

If nothing else, you'll get to see that vehicle represented in game.

Drivable? No idea. But it will exist.

[lethal moat]

I'm sure I can phenegal camera angles and perception to get something to work, maybe a dude trying to back out and not knowing the hyper rex in the headlights

[meager junco]

If you guys scrap the idea then what’s the plan for the camera since it doesn’t sound like you want to go back to the UAV camera

[pseudo fable]

If I scrap the idea, it's UAV camera. I'm not doing another one. We move forward.

[meager junco]

Oh ok fair enough

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/bSolB.gif

[lethal moat]

If gen 1 are pretty animal-like, are they still planned to be able to make spears and whatnot?

[meager junco]

Tribal bolas plz

[lethal moat]

I will be doing a "shark bait hoo hoo ha" bit with gen 1 and I will not be stopped

[signal wolf]

Could I make a suggestion? What if the camera isn’t scrapped and instead repurposed into a “climbing camera”? I think it could work to make aiming pounced or jumps to other branches much easier and intuitive. It could be like a dynamic camera where it shifts from current camera to the one you are developing. And it isn’t as big as walking around so not a lot of people are going to complain about it.

That’s if it does not advance into becoming the camera system

[pseudo fable]

Current Gen1 design is very limited in that capacity, if capable at all.

I have not fully shelved "primitive" experiences, just tempering what needs to be made for us to move forward.

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-all-nice-gif-22927671

[meager junco]

Tbh I wouldn’t mind beastly Gen 1 either, kinda acting like the wendigos in until dawn just less spider like

[patent ginkgo]

Gen 1 sounds interesting

[lethal moat]

They even look like wendigos, torn lips, long spindly limbs, and adept at climbing

[meager junco]

That’s true, I just bet they won’t be as quick for balance purposes

[patent ginkgo]

Strain plant gameplay please

[lethal moat]

Plants vs zombies gameplay

[meager junco]

Ok idea pitch what if, one neuro creature could revive the neurons in a dead creature?

[limber parrot]

in terms of physical capability, they (Gen1) seem like they'd be on par with a predator. Similarly i could imagine them using trees in a similar manner as a movement option. Yknow, just stuck to primal gear at best i suppose.

i love making my own stuff up

[lethal moat]

Necromancy mage subclass

[pseudo fable]

I want to give them a sharpened stick just for the big strong yeet that can take someone out immediately if it hits them.

[meager junco]

Would really help the whole “mage” image it has

[signal wolf]

Nah I’d win

[ionic sable]

Are we talking more of a sharpened stick, or a sharpened log?

[lethal moat]

Gun vs sneaky man with sharpened stick

[patent ginkgo]

I hope they can pick up and throw rocks

[meager junco]

https://tenor.com/view/louis-princess-and-the-frog-gif-19489991

[strange shell]

What if some neuro could cast mage's armor to increase its AC

[limber parrot]

"Pha-tunk -> Swoosh -> dead"

[pseudo fable]

Oh yeah. Like a chimp hurling a stone at you. Fun and terrifying.

[patent ginkgo]

Exactly

[strange shell]

Especially if the chimp is twice your size

[meager junco]

That means collectible rocks soon

[lethal moat]

Just take the shadow of moil eldritch invocation

[lethal moat]

Not necessarily, he just said it was a good idea

[meager junco]

Don’t you dare destroy my dreams of rock collecting in the isle

[ionic sable]

Something I was curious about when you were streaming the camera stuff.

Do you know how that'll work with Gen 1? Since you mentioned previously that they might be getting third person like the playable species?

[signal wolf]

Remember, we have to take every statement from Don as confirmed. This is the way

[patent ginkgo]

Geology gen 1

[limber parrot]

no, remember what i told you

[lethal moat]

Meth lab gen 1

[ionic sable]

The ideal scenario.

[signal wolf]

I was joking 🙃

[meager junco]

Damn Walter white was a gen 1 all along

[signal wolf]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-walter-white-meme-breaking-bad-cooking-jesse-we-need-to-cook-gif-25990838

[lethal moat]

Bald, cruel, likes rocks, it all adds up

Damn, we went down that rabbit hole really fast

[patent ginkgo]

Yay

[meager junco]

https://tenor.com/view/alice-rabbithole-falling-tumbling-bye-gif-25381436

[lethal moat]

On the topic of meth, gen 2 being able to find performance inhancing drugs like addrenaline or pervatin could be interesting

[patent ginkgo]

Don if you’re still looking, are strain plants still a thing in lore?

[meager junco]

I see them getting more rewarded through the replicator but the idea of them stealing Gen 2 gear for their own is a cool concept

Gen 1 with guns

https://tenor.com/view/planet-of-the-apes-monkey-gun-shooting-gif-17888605

[lethal moat]

I meant to say gen 2

[meager junco]

LOL

Hey you messed up, now you got me thinking it

“Gun ready” perk/mutation for Gen 1

[limber parrot]

Gonna be honest, i like the idea of gen1s being able to use Gen2 stuff, just really poorly because they're unfamiliar with the gear. Think using a gun but getting absolutely clowned on by recoil lmao

[strange shell]

I think gen 1 would most likely use guns as projectiles

[lethal moat]

Throw the heavy metal object

[patent ginkgo]

Club

[limber parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/gun-throw-gun-shoot-desert-gif-15988707

[pseudo fable]

I'd say more like Eugene in Land of the Dead. They're dummy strong. "What recoil, really?" https://youtu.be/2SJ3eoUGXy0?t=85

[signal wolf]

Handsome

[limber parrot]

I could imagine one seeing a Gen2 using a pistol and proceeding to try to fire a rifle with one hand

[lethal moat]

I got these vibes

[strange shell]

I haven't ever heard of that movie before
The zombies are super uncanny in how they seem capable of thought

[limber parrot]

I honestly wonder what Gen1s think of Humans/Gen2s. Do they just consider them "Puny Me", or do they see themselves as something different entirely?

[lethal moat]

I'm betting they're snackies

[limber parrot]

I mean, they're most certainly capable of thought, but i don't know how much of that theyre willing to put into recognizing their similarities to humans, especially when they seem to dedicate themselves to protecting the replicator, from humans moreso than other creatures

[lethal moat]

They can think, but it's probably not too complicated

[pseudo fable]

It's a continuation of Romero's zombie films. I'd recommend it.

[signal wolf]

What would you put it on 1–10?

[pseudo fable]

Solid 7.

Pillsbury is the best.

[signal wolf]

I see

[limber parrot]

Of course we cant really ask them, but im fairly sure that even chimps regognize the similarities in some shape or form, and i'd consider gen1s a good chunk smarter

[lethal moat]

Fair

[limber parrot]

I mean, i can only guess really, but you gotta admit that they seem a lot more cooperative with other primates, than literally anything else

[pseudo fable]

Give something enough intelligence and it asks questions.

[signal wolf]

Brain rot is the antidote

[lethal moat]

So... I'm assuming gen 1 never got to that point?

And what does that mean for gen 2

[limber parrot]

Kind of. Even a human will only start asking questions, when he can afford to. Idk if theres a similar saying in english, but weve got a funny phrase in german: "Food comes before morale".

[patent ginkgo]

Is this related to troodon

[strange shell]

https://tenor.com/view/monkeys-gif-20074715

[limber parrot]

Did i turn off ping? too late now.

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/theyluvv_kali-crying-spongebob-wtf-gif-22482597

[patent ginkgo]

Huh

[lethal moat]

He phrased it in a way that can mean a lot of things and now I'm overthinking it

[strange shell]

Like you usually do

[lethal moat]

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

[limber parrot]

Might be a cult. One Gen1 asks the wrong questions and gets beaten to a pulp by his own people

[ionic sable]

In that case, obviously you would just make it so their lifespan isn't long enough for them to start asking questions. Make it so they don't get the opportunity to cause problems.

Unless EIPs are getting carried over from Legacy.

If that's the case, then that wouldn't fix the problem at all, if anything it would just make it worse.

[strange shell]

Or do it like a proper cult
Give them the answer they want to hear whenever they ask

[ionic sable]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-true-kramer-seinfeld-gif-5503484

[lethal moat]

What if the echidna was smart enough to ask questions?

[limber parrot]

All things considered, i dont think a Gen1 would betray the replicator, even if it found some questionable attributes about its own purpose

[lethal moat]

Or they're unable to betray the replicator

[limber parrot]

Its like a child clinging onto their mothers word, they may not like what they have to do at all times, but they love their mother (replicator) and their actions take according form

[limber parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/execute-order66-order66-66-palpatine-star-wars-gif-20468321

[ionic sable]

We haven't heard anything about AE or the replicator being able to change how their assets brains function.

So it would be hard to assume that they would be literally incapable of thinking about betraying the replicator.

[limber parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/order66-will-do-will-be-done-star-wars-revenge-of-the-sith-gif-22742954

[lethal moat]

They might just not be smart enough to think about it

[ionic sable]

Because if they could be brainwashed to such a degree, why would Gen 1s act so "feral".

[limber parrot]

im gonna stick with them considering the replicator as their mother, or at the very least, creator. Dont have to like what they tell you, but you do it because of who they are

[lethal moat]

Why wouldn't gen 2 rebel if they didn't want to get slaughtered on an island full of scary dinosaurs

[lethal moat]

I think it fits fairly well

[limber parrot]

they have no choice. they have no identity outside of their AE employment, theres no pass, documents, career, or history tied to those people. i dont think they could even survive in the modern world anyway

[lethal moat]

There are long histories of slave rebellions where they started their own lives afterwards

Assuming gen 2's conditions are that of slaves

[limber parrot]

alright then, so lets say they rebel, they no longer want to be stuck on an island full of muderous creatures. how do they get off the island? the replicator may not be able to force them into submission on a neural level, however, the anorganic machinery on the island could very well be programmed by AE to simply cease functioning past a certain point from the island or be disabled by the push of a button

[lethal moat]

As far as we know, they don't originate from gateway

[hexed forge]

What's the topic of the hour

[lethal moat]

We don't know hardley anything of their origin

[lethal moat]

Gen 1 and gen 2 mentality

[limber parrot]

good chance that they wont start to rebel before they know the horrors that are yet to come

[meager junco]

Clearance 5 access pass

[lethal moat]

True, just send them out in waves, and since nobody comes back, just don't have different groups interact with each other

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/jontron-ill-take-your-entire-stock-distorted-gif-17727873

[meager junco]

I can see us starting a lore market lol, “GET YOUR PASSES HERE!”

[hexed forge]

Buy voyager helldivers with that pass

[lethal moat]

After we find all we can of course

[meager junco]

Omg cera shut up LOL

[hexed forge]

HELLDIVERS!

[hexed forge]

Do you sell any maps

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/hazbin-hotel-maybe-possibly-might-be-perhaps-gif-15643771

[limber parrot]

Exactly. And since humans are still faulty for the mistake of blindly trusting their "mother", they wouldnt really question being deployed to a remote island beforehand.

[hexed forge]

Is a cryptid selling them

[lethal moat]

No

[meager junco]

If they’re as rare as diamonds I’ll be acting all Sméagol on everyone

[hexed forge]

Are you a cryptid

[lethal moat]

No

[hexed forge]

How tf did it autocorrect a to are

[lethal moat]

We document everything, and trade firearms for information

Or just general supplies

[hexed forge]

Do you guys think the numbers on the gun and torch mean anything?

[limber parrot]

The gen2 experience

[lethal moat]

Lorecord trade center at one of the domes

[meager junco]

That strain information gonna be worth 2 choppers and a crate full of rifles

[meager junco]

Serial numbers

They might be random too

[hexed forge]

So prob not anything important

[limber parrot]

Realistically its probably amongst the worlds most valueable information

[meager junco]

Not crazy important but informative

[hexed forge]

But there are 3 digits on the torch and gun that are in the same order and same digits

[meager junco]

Yeh especially the reason behind them , not just what they are

[hexed forge]

Sooo idk what that could mean

[meager junco]

That might be reusing the same numbers or something, it’s hard to tell without actual info on the manufacturers

[lethal moat]

I am interested to see how the community will interact when gen 2 are out

[meager junco]

It’ll grow massively

[hexed forge]

I will kill other humans

Joshi too

[lethal moat]

I'm wondering if "clans" will form and enforce taxes or safe zones

[hexed forge]

Haha... ha

[meager junco]

Didn’t don say what he’s aiming for Gen 2 is more of a “we’re all on the Same team” thing?

[hexed forge]

Well I'm the outlier

[lethal moat]

He considered it

[meager junco]

Cera well keep you in the dungeon

[hexed forge]

I'm the gen 2 that got.. uh.. "infected"?? By the replicator

[limber parrot]

if thats whats happening, then i may break on my cooperative mindset, and try my best at replicating the ghost recon games

[hexed forge]

Infected isn't the right word but you get it

[meager junco]

Brainwashed

[hexed forge]

Yes

[meager junco]

That’s assuming that the replicator really is the “bad guy” in the story

[limber parrot]

gen2 infected by the replicator just sounds like a tisso reaper

[lethal moat]

I'd be fine if lorecord became a moderator of gen 2 behavior, do what you want, but play nice when trading with us, just have 2 guys with snipers in the trees during any interaction

[hexed forge]

Lorecord moderating gen 2 behavior... am I about to become most wanted

[limber parrot]

im not part of lorecord, so ill just assume to role of wandering trader, hopefully valueable enough to put me under lorecords protection

[meager junco]

We definitely should start something like that just not to the point where other people want to start wars with us (which is human nature so it’s bound to happen )

[lethal moat]

Not all behavior, but having a group will definitely be beneficial

[hexed forge]

JOIN US

My idea of how I will play gen 2 is that I will just run around the island looting things. And then selling them. The looting may involve death

[lethal moat]

W O U L D Y O U L I K E T O J O I N T H E C A U S E

[hexed forge]

YES, ABDUCT HIM

[lethal moat]

aGREED, GROUPS WILL BE INHERENTLY BETTER AT DEFENDING THEMSELVES

Dammit, forgot to disable capslock

[limber parrot]

you would not like me as a direct teammate, if im gonna be honest

[hexed forge]

Why are you yelling at me

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-gif-25117042

[signal wolf]

Rumple, lorecord is going insane again. Aliens this time

[limber parrot]

i have the very unhealthy tendency to blame others for the failings of a group effort, so the only way of improvement and self reflection is doing my stuff solo

[hexed forge]

Most of us play helldivers so we are used to bad teammates

[signal wolf]

[limber parrot]

my previous message would tell you that id be even worse than a bad teammate. im just a douche

[hexed forge]

You are so bad that you don't even have the game

[signal wolf]

oh

[lethal moat]

I don’t want to be a clan, just an information gathering group

[signal wolf]

I wanna start a cartel

[limber parrot]

id gladly play the role of lone recon for yall, but thats about the extent of what i can do for you without sabotaging the team

[signal wolf]

(ingame)

Recon is chill

[limber parrot]

not when something can smell you from an uncanny distance far away

[signal wolf]

fair

[limber parrot]

i might have to play with mud and leaves a lot to keep my life on solo missions

hope we get to make ourselves some form of ghilli suit

[lethal moat]

The thing about clans are that it forces an “us vs them” mindset that leads to a lot of toxicity, so I’m going to keep that away from Lorecord

Also, we’ve gone off topic in lore theories again

[signal wolf]

Wars are fun

[hexed forge]

Gateway location theory, go

[limber parrot]

meh, what gives. sometimes people start with a theory and it turns into a conversation, no biggie

[hexed forge]

My guess is Oceania/southeast asia/east asia

[lethal moat]

I’m betting Pacifica or the Florida keys

[hexed forge]

Australia

[limber parrot]

Small island near madagascar

[hexed forge]

Dondi if you are in chat please give us a hint

[limber parrot]

put the near in quotations here, its probably a good chunk away from africas mainland coast, moreso than madagascar

[hexed forge]

*he's not in chat *

[limber parrot]

he might be, and his way of saying no is just not saying anything lol

Works wonders, if you think about it

[lethal moat]

Or he wants us to suffer

[limber parrot]

Would you blame him?

[lethal moat]

Nope

[limber parrot]

yeah. . .

[fallow harbor]

im betting that dondi hasnt even thought of the place of where the island is

and that right now its just a generic tropical island

and it doesnt have a real world location

[scarlet verge]

I don't know. There's a massive amount of attention to certain details that I wouldn't have thought to include, so I wouldn't be surprised if it were there and some astronomy nerd was able to figure it out. I'm not good with picking out constellations so if someone were able to identify constellations in Gateway that can only seen in the Southern vs Northern Hemisphere or Eastern vs Western might help

But that's assuming they did include that much detail. I wouldn't expect them to, but I wouldn't be surprised either

[meager junco]

We tried that trick only to learn the skybox might not be accurate

[scarlet verge]

Ah I thought yall might have, but it could also probably be something easily changed once they're ready to set us loose

[fallow harbor]

idk js with how inconsistant the isle seems i feel like it doesnt have a real world locaiton

[meager junco]

But from what the skybox says, it’s somewhere in Eastern Asia

[fallow harbor]

child labor 🔥

[scarlet verge]

I'd guess tropical too given the wildlife and weather, unless they're adding different climates other than (possibly) in the domes if they still do that

Not counting storm frequency, I know that's still being worked on

[meager junco]

Yeh I thought about checking how frequent storms are in some areas of the world but stopped because it was said to be getting finished

It’s sad because we could be able to tell more off of sunrise/sunset time and location , stars

[scarlet verge]

Good point, but we'd need to know time of year for that. Although you could get that from the celestial movements like you said. They could make it super confusing and just put it on the equator and have 12 hour days and 12 hour nights

But I'd guess the reason we can't figure it out is because they don't want us to figure it out yet. Just in case they change the location down the road to fit in with any new changes to the storyline

[acoustic osprey]

nice read from Don's stuff

[lethal moat]

He’s said people have guessed it already

[lethal moat]

Yep, got a little bit more on gen 1

[acoustic osprey]

Aye

good to know more on the complexicty of less cognitive Gen1s and more tribal Gen1s

[fallow harbor]

WHAT WHEN??

[lethal moat]

About an hour and a half ago I believe

[fallow harbor]

gib link

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-lore-theories message
#isle-lore-theories message

second link is a nice thought though

Doing a tribal Gen1 experience is going to be the great undertaking that requires far more care.

it makes me wonder if Gen1s will be like the Dinosaur faction
at least akin to it

Where there are several selections you can pick from before you spawn

[lethal moat]

That’s what I’m assuming

[acoustic osprey]

but.
I'd imagine you'd really need to balance that.

More tribal? Maybe less powerful?
vice versa, etc

or would you have it be more so a "growth"-inspired progress

[lethal moat]

I feel like the different versions will focus on different aspects, some focusing on climbing, one on night vision

Ew I just envisioned the goblin spider version of Gen 1 and now my brain feels icky

[acoustic osprey]

less about "waiting time" and more so about doing things, etc. (Unsure on the specifics)
and the more you advance, the better cognitive functions? etc. The more "tribal" you become

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/willem-dafoe-oh-yeah-hehehe-smirk-evil-grin-gif-25426773

[acoustic osprey]

Aye.
I do wonder if it'll be either picking from a list of different Gen1s
or getting a "base" Gen1 and augmenting your lifestyle through there

[scarlet verge]

What's this one??

[acoustic osprey]

in lore, I don't know how the latter would make a lot of sense?

[scarlet verge]

Nevermind ignore me

[lethal moat]

It’s a net casting spider, my bad

[scarlet verge]

I thought you said you saw it already

[lethal moat]

But just massive peepers on a small face with a big jaw

[lethal moat]

Nono, it’s just a theoretical, I had an image in my brain

[icy onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/rowoon-panic-panicking-nervous-sketchy-gif-20846678

[lethal moat]

Imagine that, but like 7-8 feet tall with teeth

[icy onyx]

I would ded

[lethal moat]

Have it make clicking and chattering noises while hanging upside down from the ceiling :3

[acoustic osprey]

I just wouldn't place my money on anything just yet.
The information already found is good, about the in-game world aspects- especially the location of the night sky

But I wouldn't be 100% on everything
especially not until 1.0 launch in the future

[meager junco]

Yeh no that’s why I was saying I’m gonna wait a bit longer before assuming an actual location, for all we know it could be an island off Hawaii

[acoustic osprey]

something like the storms, as you mentioned, is just a bit dubious at the moment

but the night sky is definitely a better place to go. At least at the moment

[icy onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/aragog-spider-harry-potter-forbidden-forest-arrival-gif-15784316

reminds me of this ugh

[lethal moat]

Aragog!

I actually could try and make a throwing net spider gen 1 concept

Nv focused gen 1

[long sky]

@acoustic osprey okay so, Apollo Engineering. From what I understand is that they initially at least, started with botany... so why Dinosaurs? What specifically do Dinosaurs bring to the table that would enable them to revive them in the first place

[lethal moat]

Why dinosaurs is a dangerous question because we do not know

[acoustic osprey]

Agriculture and botany, pretty much. Yeah

[acoustic osprey]

^we can only speculate at the moment

[long sky]

what I understand with the mutations is medicine, but as for the normal dinosaurs, im quite curious as to WHY they are here, why they've been brought back and what purpose they serve

[acoustic osprey]

It might be a combination of ego (you literally BROUGHT back super extinct things) and maybe to showcase your ability as a bio-engineering company

The true answer(s) are truly unknown

If it helps: Dinosaurs are unfortunate but necessary

[lethal moat]

Strains are relatred to medicine, but not necessarily medecine themselves

[long sky]

perhaps, and Dinosaurs being the most well known extinct group of animals would further prove that theoretical, but still it makes me wonder

[long sky]

gotcha

[acoustic osprey]

Quite so

[acoustic osprey]

NEW SUBSIDARY TIME

[lethal moat]

Nice, interesting devblog, but it's bedtime, I'll look over it again tomorrow

[acoustic osprey]

no idea what Quor means
will now spend many minutes finding out

[acoustic osprey]

Aequor, in latin, means equal

Aequor is also a poetic term in Virgil (a Roman poet) used to describe the flatness of the sea or land
Marcus Terentius Varro, a Roman author, used the term in relation to the sea for poets

if you want to look the more "sea-way"
having a company/subsidiary that does dock stuff and using a "sea" related term is pretty cool

however
it might, more so, be "AE" + "Quor"

so I'll research a bit more on the "Quor" part now
which also seems to be a Latin word

it also means, in older latin
"why"

or "from what motive/reason"

I don't think Quor is used in standard Latin though

it's not very scripturesque Latin that I'm used to

i believe that's why, in Latin, "cur" or "qur" is used a lot more

this one is a bit of a weird one

[spiral elbow]

Almost looks like it’s designed to carry a large animal in a sling/stretcher

Also, that thing is on wheels, wow

[acoustic osprey]

have you been to an actual dock in the past though?

it's quite surprising
but pretty much all cranes have wheels.

quite CRAZY

but that's so they can easily pick up things

[acoustic osprey]

BUT the irony of this is

And the small crane, with a few variations, to wrap up the Docks.

that's the SMALL crane as well LOL

and it already looks pretty big

so imagine things being transported with THIS

[acoustic osprey]

https://gyazo.com/e22446d9858c972b364acc5243f17a7e

this is actually a pretty cool section

[acoustic osprey]

sorry lost my thoughts

https://gyazo.com/dde527d9315d251c0494c400c6f5bb03
i believe this section is a mini-base?

which seems pretty cool
You're pretty open
but nothing can really get you

besides the climbers 😊

[edgy pike]

New ptera nesting spot just dropped

[acoustic osprey]

New bird shooting zone just dropped!!

[edgy pike]

I wonder if part of the whole gameplay loop of bringing power back into human bases extended to the cranes

[acoustic osprey]

Depends if they have any use

[edgy pike]

I mean there’s literally no purpose

[acoustic osprey]

With boats

[edgy pike]

But it would be really funny if you could drop a shipping container on someone

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[edgy pike]

The vibe of all the new docks stuff is primal carnage on steroids I’m actually glad the breakaway from PC lore happened now

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah, ITS pretty cool

I'm very excited to see more

[knotty locust]

I think dondi is playing a prank

the “why” means “why are you looking this up” or “why are you searching for this”

maybe

[young viper]

the docks getting back, i see the omniraptor era coming back

[lethal moat]

Docktah owo

[lethal moat]

<@&933486433342222376>

[pseudo fable]

We went back and forth on whether or not that room would be enterable or not. Ultimately, we decided against it.

But you could technically camp up there on the exterior.

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/meet-the-sniper-shades-cowboy-hat-sunglasses-cowboy-gif-17344963

[pseudo fable]

There's a few areas on the docks they'd be problems, so we'll have the way up cut off in some fashion. But you will definitely be able to climb up some.

[lethal moat]

So are docks going to be full of potentially useful things for gen 2?

[scarlet verge]

Herreras going to be jumping out of the skies constantly lol

[lethal moat]

I feel like large bases are just going to be hotspots for swarms of gen 2

[scarlet verge]

They'd probably be safer than the jungle though. So I'd imagine that's probably by design for them to be there

Just wondering how much the smaller dinos will hang out there too though

[lethal moat]

The horde just snuffs out any humans that come through the gates

[scarlet verge]

Lol that's what I was thinking too

I wonder if there'll be a safe spawn point for Gen 2? Like 8 random warehouses or buildings around the island that dinos can't get into. But you can't pick where you spawn in and once you leave, you can't go back

It'll be interesting to see how Gen 2 spawns in and with what gear, if any

[lethal moat]

I'm betting a flashlight and maybe a knife, and probably basic clothing

[scarlet verge]

That's what I was thinking, but where? And how to keep spawncampers from immediately killing as soon as they come in. At least with the dinos, you're usually small enough to find hiding quick enough to get your bearings

[acoustic osprey]

Ah! Dann it

[lethal moat]

If Gen 1 aren’t as intelligent as I thought they would be, I’m betting they have less structures and maybe more nests/hives, if anything at all.

[meager junco]

Back to hypsi nest for Gen 1 huts

[crystal cairn]

discuss

[hexed forge]

WOAH

[patent ginkgo]

Omnis found a place they like and AE couldn’t get supplies in well perhaps

[crystal cairn]

@bold crater we need your omni memes

[acoustic osprey]

good

[bold crater]

[acoustic osprey]

I wouldn't be surprised
a bit of a community easter egg and JP reference

[crystal cairn]

Don made one of your memes into canon lore it sounds like

[acoustic osprey]

raptors being too attracted to human meat 😊

[bold crater]

I was not the creator of Docktahs People just assume I am one because of my name having Dock in it (I AM N O T)

[lethal moat]

Raptors being good at adapting to human environments perchance

[crystal cairn]

I dont understand what you are saying

[acoustic osprey]

YOU are Docktah

[bold crater]

I don't think I've ever made Docktah memes

[crystal cairn]

OHHHHHH DOCK-TAH

[patent ginkgo]

lol

[lethal moat]

Silly

[bold crater]

I'M NOT! I'M VIABLE!!!!

[acoustic osprey]

Docktah was just doktor
so Docktah

[crystal cairn]

I read that as, Dock meme cartoons were made into canon lore LOL

[lethal moat]

Lol

[crystal cairn]

jesus christ haha my bad okay okay

[bold crater]

[crystal cairn]

unless...?

[acoustic osprey]

Docktah memes though are pretty old

basically occurred since V3 launched with docks

I remember being nested into a mega utah pack there once

[hexed forge]

Can the replicator control dinos?

[acoustic osprey]

we might have to look at how Gen1s interact with her to get a good understanding

[hexed forge]

Hmmm, I was thinking if the replicator can command dinos maybe the replicator sent the raptors to the docks. IF ofc the replicator turns out to be the big "Bad guy"

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/wSVV.gif

[bold crater]

[acoustic osprey]

yeah!!

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/kill-that-guy-spiderman-spider-man-into-the-spider-verse-spiderverse-kingpin-gif-20437897

[crystal cairn]

I actually have never thought this ever (evrima baby) I straight up thought of your username when he mentioned that and thought it was your cartoon memes he was referencing lmao. Cleary I just can't read which is something I am working on

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[crystal cairn]

...unless?

[maiden sundial]

I thought it was a metal gear rising reference

[crystal cairn]

@acoustic osprey I tried to inquire about the lore masters

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/stannis-got-hug-care-gif-8168974

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-cry-cat-kitty-tears-gif-24106422

[crystal cairn]

I'm onto you though lightclaw...

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/kruithne-sonic-jim-carrey-eggman-push-buttons-gif-25544712

[crystal cairn]

explain this to me

what burden does he speak of? why does he mention you know more....

[acoustic osprey]

i should NOT have asked

[crystal cairn]

do you have forbidden knowledge? speak

[acoustic osprey]

but the lorsanity will contiue

[crystal cairn]

I'm onto you lightclaw...

[acoustic osprey]

thank you

[crystal cairn]

https://tenor.com/view/my-eyes-watching-you-im-watching-margot-robbie-gif-14748817

[lethal moat]

Lightclaw is deeeeep into the lore server, if he knew something, I would think he would have told us

[crystal cairn]

unless...?

forget everything you think you know, and ask yourself the question rumple. what if

[lethal moat]

Don’t see why he wouldn’t , unless he signed an NDA, but he left stress testing so he could be more involved in lore without having to hide stuff, so idk

[crystal cairn]

for now I rest my case, but I'll be watching..

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/mike-wazowski-watchingyou-gif-5352035

[acoustic osprey]

it I was I would NOT be here anymore

[lethal moat]

Mhm

I’m betting it’s someone we wouldn’t expect, like Hellshade Or the dude that accessed the terminal way back when

[acoustic osprey]

I'd do what other devs do
and exist without being bothered on another discord

[lethal moat]

Become ethereal

[acoustic osprey]

i also have minimal skills
i'd bring nothing to the table

[lethal moat]

I feel like the lore masters would share whatever they were given u less they were asked to not to, so I think it’s someone who isn’t active hardly ever, but knows a lot

[acoustic osprey]

if they were allowed

[crystal cairn]

OR

they were brought to council pertaining to a subject, as one would a friend, simply because they know enough to have an opinion on the whole that was perhaps needed or valued

think about it

regardless, we know that the lore masters exist

[young viper]

Lore things

[acoustic osprey]

Aequor

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/princess-bride-using-words-dont-gif-22072801

[crystal cairn]

do you!

[young viper]

what if AEquor...

[acoustic osprey]

aye
that's what I'm thinking

it's 100% a reference to AE
hence why I think it's some sort of Apollo subsidiary

[young viper]

What could be quor then??

[acoustic osprey]

but
either, from my word detailing

either the word in quor or aequor, to what it's referring to

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-lore-theories message
read from this

[young viper]

There is a difference in the size of the letters

[acoustic osprey]

to note thogh

Q is at AE's level (slightly lower)
U is the highest
OR at the same level

[young viper]

Maybe if we don't count on the Q trait it will be lower than AE level

[acoustic osprey]

maybe
could be the font doing that for Q

but UOR definitely seem like they're different sizes

if you exclude the tail for Q

[young viper]

Normally in written lines the detail of Q crosses the line as it does not count as a letter

[acoustic osprey]

QU are together
OR are together

[lethal moat]

I feel it just looks weird because of the letters that are used

[acoustic osprey]

kinda?

but typically all letters should be in line

unless it's a font
but I don't know of normal fonts doing that

unless AE are capitals

[lethal moat]

AEQUOR
The Q makes the others look offset

[acoustic osprey]

i can get a photoshop done
but UOR are not in line with AE

[young viper]

In a way it seems like QU are smaller and OR is bigger

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-lore-theories message
erm

[young viper]

Oh sorry, I went blind for a second

[acoustic osprey]

lol, all good

[lethal moat]

AE definitely looks bigger, but the others look like they’re on the same line

[young viper]

I'm almost certain that AE actually has a different sign than the other letters

[acoustic osprey]

there are a lot of fonts that are in "all caps"
but when you turn on caps for the "all caps" it makes the font a bit larger

would make sense for why "AE" is larger

[lethal moat]

Q just dips down a bit, QUOR are all the same line

[acoustic osprey]

why is the file called polish

[young viper]

Where did I edit to place the lyrics 👍

I did this on my cell phone so I had to use a normal app

[acoustic osprey]

lol

https://gyazo.com/5c0cf28af7f574fedff772b60a0a8b75
O and R are slightly higher

let me do it better, hold on

[young viper]

If only we had another construction with writing to see if they follow a pattern or do the letters just have a random difference in size

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[young viper]

If what we are thinking makes sense then in fact the tail of Q does not count as the letter because it surpassed all the others

[acoustic osprey]

https://gyazo.com/1162aca910ae422bf72ae64a960666a5

https://gyazo.com/d8f4b0ff2695ce6a9aaa9f482693cb10
here, better

[lethal moat]

I feel like Q stands for quality or quantity, there aren’t very many other Q words

[acoustic osprey]

do you think it's an acronym?

[lethal moat]

I think so

[young viper]

Combination of Prefixes and Suffixes:
“QUOR” is not a complete word, but can be part of larger words. For example:
“Inquorate”: A legal term that refers to a meeting or assembly that does not have the minimum number of members present to make valid decisions.

Quorate”: The opposite of “inquorate”, indicating that there are enough members present to make valid decisions.

Everything I found related, unfortunately, doesn't seem to make any sense

[acoustic osprey]

quor is latin, at least

which would make sense to some degree

[young viper]

Maybe..

Woah I didn't expect lore to be this hard work (Either I'm enjoying this or I'm going crazy)

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/bo-burnham-laugh-crazy-gif-22215333

[young viper]

Apollo Company
-> in the Food Industry (Agriculture)

-> Apollo Engineering (AE) - an Apollo Subsidiary
-> Went from food making (possibly, bio-genetically) into Dinosaur making ||apparently quickly)

-> AE made Genetically Monster Humans, called Tribals / Generation One
-> in which are labeled under "GOLEM-Ceti" -> in which refers to something, internationally, that is "monsterous"

-> AE made Strains, either during or before they made Tribals
-> Strains, incidentally, are also good for pharmaceutical use (in which, likely helps with another Apollo Subsidiary called Apollo Pharmaceuticals North)

-> Somehow Replicator fits in this. In Legacy lore, it was used to replicate your EIP a good thousand times

-> Something happened / We call it "The Incident"
-> Gateway has it's "hyper fences" broken

....

Time has apparently gone by, noticed by weathered buildings on both maps

-> Gen2s are on the islands, not to kill but to do things

Is it still correct or outdated? @acoustic osprey

[acoustic osprey]

-> in the Food Industry (Agriculture)
at least, started in agriculture

     -> Went from food making (possibly, bio-genetically) into Dinosaur making ||apparently quickly)

pretty much, from what we know

[acoustic osprey]

    -> in which are labeled under "GOLEM-Ceti" -> in which refers to something, internationally, that is "monsterous"

GOLEM derivative, yes, is monstrous things
but under Deimos project

    -> Strains, incidentally, are also good for pharmaceutical use (in which, likely helps with another Apollo Subsidiary called Apollo Pharmaceuticals North)

pretty much, yeah

-> Somehow Replicator fits in this. In Legacy lore, it was used to replicate your EIP a good thousand times
pretty much, again, yeah

-> Something happened / We call it "The Incident"
-> Gateway has it's "hyper fences" broken

presumably, something has happened. Could be several? Could just be one BIG incident, or several smallers ones

[lethal moat]

You want an invite to the lore server?

Deimos is the Greek god of Fear right? Or is it panic?

[acoustic osprey]

dread/fear/terror

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-all-nice-gif-22927671

[acoustic osprey]

@lethal moat whenever you can, update lore doc

just added the AEQUOR into the doc

[lethal moat]

👍

[acoustic osprey]

should be it, thanks

[fallow harbor]

<@&933486433342222376>

[fallow harbor]

what if the real isle lore is the friends we made along the way?

[lethal moat]

Well I sacrificed several to the replicator, so that would be unfortunate

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/drink-robert-baratheon-game-of-thrones-gif-8795647393383794137

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/cheers-ill-drink-to-that-bro-gif-12940340

This explains how both of us cope with lore pretty well

[acoustic osprey]

Last night, we were, on isle discussion, thinking of possible meanings for AEQUOR/AEQUOR
If it IS an acronym, and not just "AE" + Quor or a play on the latin poetic word "Aequor", this is definitely a possibility

Apollo Engineering Qualified Utility Organization & Robotics

AE is obvious = Apollo Engineering
Q is a bit of a ? So we thought Qualified might work?
Utility would make sense- especially since it's printed on a dock crane
O is also a bit of a ? So we put organisation
Robotics definitely made sense, at least for the time being, for it being a crane. Automated cranes can definitely exist.

[acoustic osprey]

heck yeah!!

[lethal moat]

Robots!

[acoustic osprey]

would make sense to have a robotics branch?

especially looking at things like Drone Quetz

[lethal moat]

And the replicator, yeah I think it makes sense

[acoustic osprey]

having a RnD branch/subsidiary for AE to help with aspects would definitely make sense to some degree

IF only it had some tiny text saying AEQUOR on the Quetz
but I don't think you'd really need to brand your Quetz if it's ON YOUR island

[lethal moat]

[acoustic osprey]

but
it is interesting.

I do wonder if it's that AEQUOR made the crane
or it's some sort of added-on sticker for the docks

either that AEQUOR made the crane
or
AEQUOR revolves around that dock/connects with that dock?

Either they're the dock service
Or related to the Dock in some way

[lethal moat]

Q could be for aQuatic to stop comfusion

[acoustic osprey]

hmm

[lethal moat]

It’s a bit of a stretch

[acoustic osprey]

yeah

a bit

[glad copper]

What font do the glance sheets use?

[acoustic osprey]

closest you can get is bold and regular X Typewriter

[glad copper]

Thank you, kind sir!!

[acoustic osprey]

no worries

[crystal cairn]

it sounds like a brand of water

[lethal moat]

Yeah, I’ve got to agree

Now I’ve got to make a meme later

[hexed forge]

Alr @limpid helm if you click the pinned msgs click on the first document you see

Read it, if you have any questions ask here

[patent ginkgo]

The first pinned doc here is the best for newcomers

[limpid helm]

Sweet

[lethal moat]

You can never know enough

[patent ginkgo]

Agreed

[hexed forge]

And if you join the server it would be very helpful

However i am currently muted there

[limpid helm]

😂

[patent ginkgo]

These are some important things to look at as well

[limpid helm]

Yaaaaa good idea, I probably can, ill have to move it up to where it appears(I cannot scroll thru the server list)

[hexed forge]

Yippeee

[limpid helm]

Omg id love to see a drone/robot quetzal

[hexed forge]

Soo is that a yes

[limpid helm]

That is indeed a yes

[hexed forge]

@patent ginkgo I cant invite people cuz im muted, can you do it 💀

[limpid helm]

Quite the criminal we have here

[patent ginkgo]

It’s in the quetz concept, so I believe it’s essentially confirmed as lore

[patent ginkgo]

Sure

[hexed forge]

A white van is about to show up in your drive way. Called the lorecord insanity asylum transportation

[limpid helm]

Does the driver have any candy>

[hexed forge]

It has... uh... troodon donuts!

[limpid helm]

Sweet im in 👍

[hexed forge]

Are you? I dont see you

[limpid helm]

I need le link pls 🙏

[hexed forge]

Ohhh, well I got unmuted now so I can do it

[limpid helm]

Ty

[hexed forge]

Check dms

Make sure to click the checkmark in rules

[limpid helm]

Oh jolly gave me the link but I didnt see his dm cuz im blind

Im in tho 👍 😂

[patent ginkgo]

Was gonna say

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/gone-snap-vanish-lost-disappear-gif-13026278

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-spiderman-venom-yoink-marvel-gif-7406719989799473483

[hexed forge]

Are we making lore theories less and less active

[patent ginkgo]

Both yes and no

[acoustic osprey]

never

[acoustic osprey]

I agree

it explains terms
and gives a lot of new ones with MINIMAL information

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/sure-game-of-thrones-go-t-stannis-gif-5939542

[pseudo fable]

This argument has been made by me several times in relation to the large amounts of props that have AE slapped on there somewhere.

[patent ginkgo]

Like the AE grade water?

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/bf3ux.gif

[patent ginkgo]

Speaking of that stuff, is it more of a funny placeholder or proper lore clue?

[pseudo fable]

It's our propmaker throwing AE on things, at this point I believe, to raise my blood pressure.

[patent ginkgo]

lol

Good to know in any case

[pseudo fable]

I know a few instances of the logo is being removed in game.

[patent ginkgo]

So, I’m hungry for some crab info. Could you say how the giant crustacean situation impacted/was addressed by Apollo or other large entities

[patent ginkgo]

Looking forward to map changes especially the lore related/clarifying ones

[lethal moat]

We're going to be looking at garage door manufacturers and aseeing which one is highest quality in the lore?

[patent ginkgo]

Don if you’re still looking, could we know specifically how those aquatic megaflora were supposed to help with climate change?

[acoustic osprey]

reminds me of some of the wackier and random words on some of the models

"POWAH!!"
"4k CRT"

||albeit, 4k CRTs did technically exist||

[hexed forge]

Whats the summary of the new lore so far?

[lethal moat]

There's not a ton of new stuff that we know about, mostly stuff to look forward to

Something I'm really interested in learning about would be any "exotic containment methods" for things like strains

But that doesn't pertain to anything recently, just me being a nerd.

[icy onyx]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/947262559306797076/956008474607779860/838251360570572840.gif

[lethal moat]

You're new! You want some lore?

[icy onyx]

no

[lethal moat]

[icy onyx]

😎 🤙

[lethal moat]

[icy onyx]

🤨

[acoustic osprey]

how new are you asking for?

the only thing, really, is AEQUOR

that's it. Truly.
That's "hot"

but, hopefully diablo video this or next week

a lot of things coming this month honestly.
And my birthday. Which is COOL to think about. Can't wait for stuff like the rest of Invincible Season 2

[hexed forge]

I'm still betting the Dibble video is on April 1st

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-fives-this-is-wrong-and-we-all-know-it-this-is-wrong-this-isnt-right-gif-22361441

[hexed forge]

We shall see

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[hexed forge]

David yk you want it

[hexed forge]

He's a mod on petits, my convincing strategies didn't work on him

[acoustic osprey]

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-cat-sad-cat-me-when-i-dont-get-orod-tickets-gif-13399313231964052110

[lethal moat]

So I’m looking through some dev quotes, and I’m having some thoughts

[acoustic osprey]

Thought loudly now!!

[lethal moat]

It’s about the one Dondi said on stream about not all of them existing at the same time

What if we get to experience both before, and after the incident, or even get to be the reason the incident happens.
And if we are the reason for the incident, would we be able to use knowledge of what we did during that incident to assist us in recapturing the island later

[acoustic osprey]

OHH this quote

[lethal moat]

If we don’t experience everything at once, why not have players be the reason that things continue to happen

[acoustic osprey]

No. The game is not 'non-canonical', it's more so you're gonna get a lens to see various chunks of islands and stories that get told"

it's a really COOL quote I hope Don goes through

that each playable "map" (maybe even Map + Gamemode on the map ?) IS it's own vignette about a certain event on The Isle