isle-lore-theories

[sour rivet]

I didnt i promise i just wanted to ask a question

[lethal moat]

[wintry acorn]

What is a cannibal? And is it in evrima?

[acoustic osprey]

https://survive-the-isle.fandom.com/wiki/The_Eyeless

You're likely referring to this

[lethal moat]

Gen 1 ~ cannibal

[acoustic osprey]

aka. The eyeless creature (dubbed "The Eyeless")

they were originally referred to as the cannibals
but Dondi, later on a stream in legacy, told everyone that he fooled us all

that the Tribals (Generation Ones) were the cannibals
and the old cannibals (eyeless) are named something completely different

[wintry acorn]

Thanks!

[acoustic osprey]

no worries

[lethal moat]

How much do you want to know about the lore?

[wintry acorn]

The basic story line ig

[lethal moat]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit Read this, this is what we know

[wintry acorn]

Thank you

[lethal moat]

We also have a lore server if you're interested

[wintry acorn]

Ofc!

[lethal moat]

check DMs

[nimble fractal]

J sector is R/D facility?

🤨

[lethal moat]

Hmmmm

[void apex]

Research and development

[nimble fractal]

The report papers of cerato and beipi are coming from R/D sector which is a J sector on the map?

[void apex]

Often shortened to R&D or R/D

[lethal moat]

Neato

[nimble fractal]

Am I uncovering some lore 😩

[lethal moat]

As you should

[nimble fractal]

There is also K and L sectors that are RD

Which are connected between eachother

I dont remember the placement of the human buildings over the map though

[lethal moat]

mhm, I'm wondering if the sectors are divided by fences and designated by the most vital facility over that area

[nimble fractal]

December the 7th?
Thats when Rugops info was posted

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/coincidence-i-think-not-coincidence-i-think-not-the-incredibles-gif-5096707

[nimble fractal]

You better think about that

Because thats clear that in Rugops concept art was a lore reference to the breach(?) That happened in one of the facilities

[lethal moat]

Maybe

[nimble fractal]

Something made the breach there?

[lethal moat]

They never found anything out of place except for Errant 291

[nimble fractal]

[acoustic osprey]

12/7/2172 😊

[lethal moat]

those last three digits are

unacceptable

[acoustic osprey]

12/7 is the reason why I still believe the dates are lore

but that year is not

being that the date 2172 also misses a few more digits we couldn't decipher

[lethal moat]

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

[acoustic osprey]

🙂

[ionic sable]

I don't often think this, but I do imagine Dondi reading lore theories and laughing at us breaking down the dates and redacted sections from the document.

(He probably just threw down a random number as a placeholder.)

[lethal moat]

He's admitted to it

[acoustic osprey]

Being that he barely likes giving us years for dates It's always fun

[lethal moat]

Speaking of, what's your favorite type of popcorn Dondi?

[acoustic osprey]

I can imagine that November giving Don a lot of excitement about the amount of participation

almost as if it was 2018 all over again.

Same goes with Augustus, more or less

[ionic sable]

Wasn't it December?

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-hysterically-die-gif-13962087

no

[acoustic osprey]

funny name now looked at

[pulsar belfry]

Hi lore people

[lethal moat]

Hello

How can I help you today?

[pulsar belfry]

Who here has the lore document

[acoustic osprey]

rump

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit

too slow rump!!

[pulsar belfry]

Thank you. I’ll be reading that later

[acoustic osprey]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/979068369724645506/1198113650024656937/vJuLlbrg.gif

[lethal moat]

I was responding to Cerato

[quaint compass]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-jarvis-skill-issue-skill-issue-gif-24471438

[median shuttle]

devblog tonight, right?

[lethal moat]

Yeppers

[median shuttle]

dang this the lore channel didnt realise

wanted to post in discussion

[lethal moat]

Too late, you just confirmed lore in the devblog

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1202458556943700018/image.png?ex=65cd87cc&is=65bb12cc&hm=06beae8df9de1ef5811b038b2d32396cf1216f121051c716e595e7d5ae730bac&
from Jayce

#isle-discussion message link to such

on Hordetesting branch

We have another Triangles

[lethal moat]

I’d love to see it during the day

[acoustic osprey]

mmm

[patent ginkgo]

The first lore in years

[lethal moat]

2 months = 10000 years

[acoustic osprey]

yay

[nimble fractal]

No humans in devlog.... new humans structures...
isnt it a peak suspicious thing?

[lethal moat]

Not really

It happens unfortunately, now the lore people must return to the cave of wonders (The hell that is the lore server) until someone decides to rub the lamp (makes the mistake of asking us a question about lore)

[nimble fractal]

goes back into the cave to prey upon souls that wander into this channel

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-and-jerry-sneaky-key-lock-door-tom-cat-gif-27616110

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-and-jerry-sneaky-key-lock-door-tom-cat-gif-27616110

[lethal moat]

Thanks

[acoustic osprey]

yeah, where's the vat stuff!!

[nimble fractal]

humans next update I would die if that happens hmm.....

[lethal moat]

[nimble fractal]

[median shuttle]

what is this?

[lethal moat]

It’s on the hordetest, we hadn’t seen it before

[median shuttle]

I can read, I mean is this building parts? what is that object

[lethal moat]

Maybe broken wall segments? We need to see it during he day

[median shuttle]

anyone got coordinates?

[acoustic osprey]

Sorry, was 3am for me

Jayce said it was near I12
but he couldn't find it again

Just going to paste my words in here about another topic just had about A15 (a place/location Dondi gave us from a 2022's Don Sept Stream)

Which, if it still exists, would, likely, have to exist on water

However, as much as it sounds like it couldn't then exist anymore.
it could. Very much so.
especially as we had that old Gateway artwork that showcases a water base which connected to land
it could be akin/similar to such idea

There could be a small catwalk that goes into a larger harbour/port (which was shown with the "water base" depiction on the old map)
But this certainly makes things easier for AE, excluding potential costs, especially if they want to ship/move around big things
Whatever "X" things are

They would need to be further away from sandbanks, etc
So the ship can dock, portside
so having an extended dock, and if you have the money plus the need to do so, it is actually quite reliable for AE/Apollo to build something like such on Gateway.
And could potentially be "A15"

but sure, A15 (iirc from the stream) is supposed to be a ranger station/resupply point (like K15 or I12)
However, that doesn't mean A15 couldn't be the literal gateway point to get in and out of the dock

if A15 is and has to be a ranger station/resupply point

[patent ginkgo]

Do you have that concept you mentioned?

[acoustic osprey]

aye, it be this one

[patent ginkgo]

Ah that

[acoustic osprey]

yeah

[meager junco]

Oh so it be more s-20/21 or T-20/21

For the airport I mean

[acoustic osprey]

aye

[acoustic osprey]

however, that section seems to be a lot more "skinny" than in this image

but
that might be due to the airport literally building above and beyond (outwards) - South East

[meager junco]

I’m sure that not 100% of the old concept is returning but, I think most of the big buildings in there will return, just possibly moved a bit and redone

[acoustic osprey]

A lot seem to be in similar places
I think the specifics of the buildings, their general contour, is different but still showcases a lot of what we have today

Example
Perimeter being two domes into one
Mashed into One

K15 still seems to be there
but a bit more east
actual H4 is more West

D10 is in the same place basically

[meager junco]

Yeh they are, i just don’t think it’ll be 100% the same just with changes here and there to the map itself not as much on the buildings

[acoustic osprey]

C14 is relatively there

[acoustic osprey]

oh yeah, definitely more so a rough-guide of the possible future

there are still changes and big differences
but a good potential look at a more finished-human aspect of gateway

[meager junco]

Yeh I think h4 will be around that south west plains by west rail, just cause of how it resembles the Augustus area so much

[meager junco]

Hopefully we’re right and most stays right where it is

[acoustic osprey]

mmm

[meager junco]

It actually makes me realize, when there’s map changes, we should use that more often

See if old buildings return

[acoustic osprey]

it seems like this area on the right
https://gyazo.com/0133314d9b20721bbe5c2af0938fe838

is coming again
(from Don's stream)

[meager junco]

Also this makes sense as technically Herrera is a coast Dino, and that area is surrounded by coasts

[acoustic osprey]

mmmm

need to have another look at the Augustus video though

see if I can redo my tired 1am self's mistakes (if any were made in my summary)

[meager junco]

Tbh same it’s been a minute

[meager junco]

Just letting you know, that cliff area seems a lot like the Augustus area

Just missing that big rock in the plains

[acoustic osprey]

which area?

[acoustic osprey]

ah yes

[meager junco]

Cliff that the river used to go to

[acoustic osprey]

is Shirely's Kingdom up atm?

[meager junco]

Now it’s a pond but that entire area seems almost exactly like it

[meager junco]

Mhm

[acoustic osprey]

All right, thanks. I'll be hopping on in a bit then

[meager junco]

Sounds good I might hop on later, trying out the test branch rn

[acoustic osprey]

If it is.
I suppose I'll have to reupdate my grid then

but, the more information.
The better

[meager junco]

Yeh just trying to help out, hopefully it doesn’t backtrack your work

[acoustic osprey]

lol

it's all good. Thank you.
I know the current area that I have gridded out for H4 is definitely not Augustus' H4
but I really want to, at least, pinpoint something

as the grid isn't 1:1 cubes
The scale can definitely change

and the real H4 be pushed back in any location near that west area

despite H10 perfectly lining up with K15 and i12

[meager junco]

That’s true, we still don’t even know if our grid system is correct, next time don pulls up in here, we should ask him how accurate the grid is

[acoustic osprey]

YEAH

[meager junco]

Even if it’s 80% right, it means we have a good idea of what the system is like

[acoustic osprey]

grid system is correct
Yeah, I'm still definitely placing my bets we've and I've got things wrong with this

Heck, it could be actually "sector grids"
rather than actual "prism grids"

[meager junco]

I didn’t even think about that…

[acoustic osprey]

which makes finding things a lot harder, when some biomes and areas are being changed around every few patches

excludnig Highlands J sector and Jungle I sect

I presume Highlands won't change, at least.

At the very minimum

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/my-eyes-my-eyes-meme-lego-movie-vitruvius-funny-gif-26190529

[lethal moat]

I could see a fence snaking around the north and western parts of highlands

[meager junco]

Honestly highlands seems like such a weird spot, no fences, just one base, and not really much that seems like Dino containment

That’s why I want that tower concept to stay there

[acoustic osprey]

There are Hyper Fence "posts" under the map
like these images (either a whole fence side or just the "end of a hyper fence")

They can help us, for the most part, see potential hyper fence lines

Seeing as these ones line up with the current Hyper Fences and, a bit, of what we saw from Don's stream

the first image also has a gate post underground
which lines up with the path that goes to the new human area Don talked about near the east coast

[meager junco]

Yeh it seemed like the only ones missing in NW and east plains were 1 section so I’m thinking the ones under the map are those missing posts that were in his stream

Unless there’s a path or something but he didn’t get close enough to see

[acoustic osprey]

mmm

something I completely ignored
https://gyazo.com/1ec23325ae8f5f635f6537d0e72647c4

the actual fence uses mesh
(the interior/small fence)

[lethal moat]

Hm

[acoustic osprey]

we have no station, at the moment, that uses these as any sort of exterior fence

None of the areas, also, lined up with the same roads
nor the big rock
https://gyazo.com/651ec746ce1d5bfd595f2fae61ba771c

[acoustic osprey]

however, I think that, possibly due to the palms in the distance, it could be some sort of altered West here

[lethal moat]

Might be some thing special there if it has it's own fence

[acoustic osprey]

as the environment fits

[acoustic osprey]

might be
but these fences, though, seem to be quite smaller and weaker

(k15 ones for example)

but it could possibly be the same bigger exterior fences
with a different mesh

either intended, or they were testing around with possibilities

[lethal moat]

Did something happen that changed the topography or is it just unfinished?

[acoustic osprey]

the H4 in the Augustus video?

[lethal moat]

mhm

[acoustic osprey]

i think it might be worth noting, that some of the internal shots line up with other places
like i12

[lethal moat]

Hm

[acoustic osprey]

I12 matching up with footage left of MCAM07330 (bottom left)

the two interior building shots aren't useful
as they're all the same in other areas

so I believe that Augustus' H4 wasn't really made/finished?

[lethal moat]

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

[acoustic osprey]

but heck, hopefully the Dibble video showcases some stations in the background

or maybe it'll highlight some "non-outpost" camera stuff

reformed Trail Cams

[lethal moat]

Depends on if it's just another trail cam or another incident report

[acoustic osprey]

the photo Don showed was an Observation video

might've been changed, we shall wait

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1186407107071836341/SPOILER_unspoilered_it.png?ex=65ca81b8&is=65b80cb8&hm=fdf153cb632102f0a63f1ce81d39dc02fcba374292425bd22ca4f2a22df80150&

[lethal moat]

Hm

0.1.2. Neato, wonder if that means it was the second thing put on the observation database

[acoustic osprey]

I believe Don said 01.2 is in reference to it being the second model made (in-game)

[lethal moat]

Interesting

[acoustic osprey]

and, in-lore, the second version (which, I suppose, is obvious) of Diablo

if you look at hope and legacy
this was just referred to as "Generation One, Two, etc"

not to be confused with Gen1s and 2s, the humans

Ver. 0.1.2 makes it a lot less confusing though

[patent ginkgo]

Versions are in here as well

[lethal moat]

Dinosaurs iterations are fun, because the more we learn the closer we get to maybe figuring out what the end goal with dinos are

[acoustic osprey]

mmhm

Which, likely shows their level of interest/bias towards Dinos vs The Humans

Generation One and Two
vs Version 0.1.1 and 0.1.2
etc

[acoustic osprey]

aye

[lethal moat]

What are they trying to tune the dinosaurs in for?

[acoustic osprey]

depends
With Augustus, his climbing was random

but they liked it and kept with it

why

Who knows, nothing really big and obvious to pinpoint

[lethal moat]

Dibble video maybe one step closer to why dinos

[acoustic osprey]

mmmm

I really hope the longer wait for this
means it'll be pretty juicy for us lorers

[patent ginkgo]

That’s why i think it’s just a general rapid evolution experiment, and how various other things of interest impact said evolution

[lethal moat]

We know Dondi changed the text within the video, so it probably matters

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/so-excited-cant-wait-gif-24703188

[meager junco]

So the assumption it’s in that area is right?

[acoustic osprey]

possibly, aye

[meager junco]

Yayy

[meager junco]

I just realized, we didn’t get herreras or dilos

[patent ginkgo]

Yeah

Perhaps cause things like weight is in there and they haven’t fully balanced that

[lethal moat]

Not yet, might be alongside the gateway trailer tho

[meager junco]

Maybe
Hopefully we do get something for dilo as it technically is the only Dino ingame that didn’t get a tease/trailer/sheet

[acoustic osprey]

Hypsi...

(excluding old devblog posts)

[meager junco]

I’m thinking hypsi might get something when it’s got more stuff like climbing , but at least we got to see hypsi in a trailer or two iirc

[rapid chasm]

deep sea asset containment

[lethal moat]

[pseudo fable]

If a change that would radically make the sheet obsolete shortly after displaying it, regardless of the information showing up properly in-game, I still don't want to go putting info out in the world that ends up being completely incorrect in a short amount of time.

[patent ginkgo]

Ah makes sense

Especially given that there seems to be some significant things left out from things like Herrera, from what we’ve heard

At least gameplay wise

[acoustic osprey]

mmm, quite certainly.
Especially with how painful balancing is

[patent ginkgo]

Though I would assume then that there’s a species glance sheet for every playable?

Or will be, rather

[lethal moat]

How's it going Dondi?

[patent ginkgo]

The lore man

[acoustic osprey]

I'd presume this is good possibility

[patent ginkgo]

I wonder, will glance sheets be a thing gen 2s will use?

[acoustic osprey]

it'd be really cool, but also chaotic. I'd imagine- if they were customisable

[lethal moat]

Debating making custom stat sheets for strain animals that aren't confirmed, do we know the font for the sheets?

[acoustic osprey]

oh I think Hacker might know

but there are some font checkers out there which can roughly see what font is "X" etc

[patent ginkgo]

Potentially

Man I need some good lore

[hexed forge]

I wonder if guts are being worked on

[lethal moat]

[hexed forge]

Oh wait dondi was in the chat like 10 minutes ago. Damn

[patent ginkgo]

Yeah

[lethal moat]

Gone

Like a fart in a crowded room

[patent ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-gone-reduced-to-atoms-end-game-infinity-war-gif-15573921

[hexed forge]

Cya dondi,

Anyways Dibble video topic, go

[patent ginkgo]

Sparring showcase

[hexed forge]

Thats..
No... not the greatest example

[patent ginkgo]

It’ll be in the style of a behavioral observation and potentially short analysis

[lethal moat]

He's still here...
lurking
Like a fart in a crowded room

[patent ginkgo]

Calling dondi a fart is wild

[hexed forge]

And this is exactly why lorecord is never gonna be sane

[hexed forge]

I hope we get to see Shirley OR. Dilos

Maybe a Dibble herd fighting dilos

[patent ginkgo]

Shirley is confirmed to not be in dibble video

[hexed forge]

Ohh right I forgot, then dilos

[patent ginkgo]

Also I doubt they would have dilos fighting dibble in a lore vid

Given that Don said it wasn’t meant to hunt em

[hexed forge]

Uh, nesting lore then!!

[lethal moat]

AE knew about it and allowed it, so it's a matter of how they got around to tracking the hatched dinos

[hexed forge]

Did I stutter, I still, want. Nesting stuff!!!!

[patent ginkgo]

Then nest

It’s that shrimple

[lethal moat]

Baby machine

[patent ginkgo]

But yeah some better nesting stuff would be nice

Though that will be with Maia I predict

Dibble vid is going to be them sparring probably

Maybe something comes in and tries to kill the weaker one

But the real lore will be in the formatting tbh

[lethal moat]

Can't wait to discover stuff in game

[patent ginkgo]

Woah

[lethal moat]

[pseudo fable]

I'm about to have a gift sent to you.

[lethal moat]

[patent ginkgo]

[rapid chasm]

AE branded mail bombs

[patent ginkgo]

Shall the lore deficiency be cured?

Shame

[acoustic osprey]

I suppose it depends on what Vis is doing at the moment

[patent ginkgo]

Can I get special botany lore please?

[acoustic osprey]

although I don't imagine a custom model, being every corner and rock and wall being unique, for the whole of GUTS

[lethal moat]

Strain plants when

[pseudo fable]

I have to learn more about it before it can be efficiently created. Right now there's definitely some AE created plant life but it's not too thorough because otherwise you'd see I know NOTHING. 😄

[meager junco]

WE WERE RIGHT JOLLY

[patent ginkgo]

Ah

[lethal moat]

Oceanic megaflora?

[patent ginkgo]

Flora*

[acoustic osprey]

I will ask, is anything of this "accurate"

[pseudo fable]

Terrestrial plant life only. Ocean has not been given much consideration for something like that (other than horrifying underwater mega-forests) because to development it was only an eventual biome that'll be fun to play in.

[lethal moat]

Epic

[meager junco]

So AE has created plants, interesting

[lethal moat]

Food

[patent ginkgo]

Would those mega forests be kelp, or something else like giant seagrass

[pseudo fable]

Kelp.

[patent ginkgo]

Cool

Does terrestrial plants refer to diet plants, map plants, both, some?

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/game-of-thrones-got-eddard-stark-sean-bean-chuckles-gif-13516194

now to wonder what/which

[meager junco]

That’s what I’m thinking, creating the perfect crop plant to then sell in bundles

[pseudo fable]

Well, some have multiple uses.

They can be diet plants to some. That same thing might be poisonous to another group of animals. Or they may be beneficial to an animal in a way that doesn't involve eating it.

Others have become environmental hazards.

[patent ginkgo]

Interesting

Something I’ve been wondering, do or will any of the environmental asset plants have any tie to where gateway is, besides being in a tropical area?

[meager junco]

So dondi while you’re here,
I will take a shot in the dark and ask how accurate this is of a theory

Theory on Gen 1 and Gen 2
Gen 1 is the Replicators idea of a perfect human, if that human were to live on an island full of vicious creatures,possibly also being one of the first signs that the replicator ideals aren’t exactly set to what AE wanted, Gen 2 is AE attempt at the same project but more in the area of “the perfect soldier/worker) which is what we would consider a perfect human.

[lethal moat]

Is Tartarus more of an environment or a facility? Or both? Like Perimiter

[pseudo fable]

Probably not. I should probably get an edit of that old "ALIENS" meme of the guy on the History Channel. Just put "VIDEO GAME" at the bottom there so I can save it and re-use it. Unfortunately going to be my answer sometimes.

[lethal moat]

@sour rivet He said your favorite word

[patent ginkgo]

Ah good to know

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[pseudo fable]

It's not.

[meager junco]

He’d be going crazy rn

[patent ginkgo]

(My plant identification doc is now irrelevant)

[meager junco]

Damn, better answered than not

[bronze zodiac]

Prob

[pseudo fable]

What's the word? Bird?

[lethal moat]

Aliens

[acoustic osprey]

aliens

[pseudo fable]

Oh. Is that still a theory? It's definitely not that.

I couldn't pull off an aliens twist and make that good.

[acoustic osprey]

ha

[lethal moat]

We know, he's the reason we know it isn't, he's in an eteranl Alex Jones bit

[meager junco]

Delete that message before nih sees it

[pseudo fable]

This explained nothing.

[lethal moat]

He's constantly bringing up "Alien Engineering" as a joke

[patent ginkgo]

Another theory, is gateway or any of its operations a sort of rapid evolution experiment?

Also, I’ve been asked to ask about some gen 1 stuff. For example, how does it relate to gen 2?

[bronze zodiac]

Is Tartarus a freezer

[pseudo fable]

A container is a container. An experiment is an experiment.

The container is not the experiment.

[acoustic osprey]

or TOMB

[bronze zodiac]

Maybe both

[acoustic osprey]

mmm

[meager junco]

Tisso info would be lovely

[patent ginkgo]

So would AE have an evolution experiment going on in gateway? Perhaps relating to massive strain on food sources? Or ways to force adaptation in chaotic environments?

I swear autocorrect hates me

[meager junco]

Mankind’s worst enemy

[lethal moat]

I'm still betting TOMB is going to be an empty box in game that's been empty for years

[meager junco]

I’m going with that image you sent that one time,
But a bit smaller

[pseudo fable]

Oh, that's neat.

[acoustic osprey]

Jedi Archives of living tissue and information

[patent ginkgo]

Quite so

[lethal moat]

Stacks of preserved ______

[patent ginkgo]

Hey Don can you confirm or deny my theory that gateway is located in Southeast Asia/Oceania?

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/baZ8ItOXTB9.gif

I cannot, unfortunately.

[patent ginkgo]

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/got-game-of-thrones-ned-eddard-stark-gif-8425074

[meager junco]

Also, we wanted to know, if possible. What was the primordial?

[patent ginkgo]

Oh and I’ve had this small question for a while now: is errant-291 a normal human or a gen 2

[patent ginkgo]

LUCA moment

[bronze zodiac]

Was Tartarus a place to keep living or deceased specimens

[patent ginkgo]

Or is, who knows

[pseudo fable]

If I told you, you'd probably guess a lot more and more correctly*.

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-but-i-want-it-now-gif-26307521

[meager junco]

Hmmm….that makes me think alive things

[patent ginkgo]

Is that a bad thing

[lethal moat]

Unless Tartarus is a lot more connected to the TOMB than we think

[meager junco]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-but-i-want-it-now-gif-26307521

[lethal moat]

Thanks

[meager junco]

Np

[meager junco]

More than just connected through a database? Hmmmm

[bronze zodiac]

What if one for living one for dead

[lethal moat]

Tartarus is actually just a data server theory returns

[meager junco]

Mind prison

[acoustic osprey]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/968592718102138960/1087535724162719847/lotrlinegif.gif

[acoustic osprey]

no man ever truly leaves...

[patent ginkgo]

EIP’s?

[meager junco]

I hate how EIPS make sense

[pseudo fable]

What's EIPs?

[meager junco]

Human consciousness in dinosaur body

[patent ginkgo]

The player mind inside the Dino thing

[pseudo fable]

That still doesn't tell me what EIP stands for so I can google it.

[patent ginkgo]

Wasn’t it part of old lore?

Embryo intelligence profile iirc

[meager junco]

Beats me I avoid legacy lore until it’s reconfirmed by Don

[lethal moat]

I was struggling to spell embryo

[patent ginkgo]

Isaac feel free to correct me

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/gandalfs-scrolls-gif-8673340

[patent ginkgo]

Nudge nudge

[pseudo fable]

I literally read that as you referring to something else that was made. I did not connect it to the game at all. 😪 It has been a long day.

My brain was trying to connect it to EVPs.

[patent ginkgo]

lol yeah same for me

[pseudo fable]

Which may have betrayed some notes about the game.

But here we are.

[lethal moat]

Consider Hot Chocolate and a snooze ~~after you tell us if EIPs are making a return ~~

[patent ginkgo]

Yahoo

[meager junco]

COUGH And matriarch COUGH COUGH

Bad cold my bad

[patent ginkgo]

Matriarch

[lethal moat]

[patent ginkgo]

I wonder, what is troodon based on from a lore standpoint

I would assume Omni could be just all raptor things melded together

[meager junco]

Physically velo but I don’t think it’s velo, just a gut feeling

[patent ginkgo]

But troo is just weird

[meager junco]

I think omni is the best out of all raptors , best pros

[lethal moat]

It's a real life animal, gecko troodon confirmed, spread the word /j

[meager junco]

Uses good size, good speed, has the big sickle claw

[patent ginkgo]

Gecker

[lethal moat]

[meager junco]

Think that’s all the lore we’re getting tn boys

[patent ginkgo]

Botany lore

[lethal moat]

Thank you for the lore Dondi, have a good one and take care

[meager junco]

Yes any lore helps our addiction fade

[patent ginkgo]

My lore deficiency is cured for a while

[bronze zodiac]

Well I am going to be thinking about tartarus for a while

[lethal moat]

We can reuse Dock's rabies hypsi if need be

[patent ginkgo]

(I will be back theorizing within a day)

[lethal moat]

I give it 10 hours

[meager junco]

Well,
There goes my Gen 1 and Gen 2 theory out the window

At least I know now

[patent ginkgo]

I have to sleep, but before I go, EVP

[meager junco]

[scarlet verge]

I really liked that theory. I'm glad we got an answer on it, even if it wasn't what you thought

[acoustic osprey]

Employee Value Proposition (EVP)

[bronze zodiac]

Makes way for new theories

[patent ginkgo]

Google says it’s either employee value proposition or electronic voice phenomenon

[lethal moat]

I'm reverting back to AE not understanding exactly what they were doing or what the repl;icator was interpreting

[scarlet verge]

Not Electronic Voice Phenomenon?

[meager junco]

Yeh was hoping I was close but sadly not

[acoustic osprey]

there are no ghosts?

[patent ginkgo]

Neuro

[acoustic osprey]

THEY HAVE BODIES

[scarlet verge]

Yeah that's the downside, but remember the document about "don't respond to the voices"

[patent ginkgo]

Exactly

[scarlet verge]

I was looking for it

[meager junco]

I’m thinking mind voices aka echidna or a neuro

[acoustic osprey]

still then, Don said he didn't connect such

[bronze zodiac]

I feel like don't respond to the voices is definitely gen 1

[lethal moat]

Or Neuros

[patent ginkgo]

?

[bronze zodiac]

Echidna

[lethal moat]

Lord knows Neuro would be in the woods talking back at guards

[lethal moat]

Perhaps

[acoustic osprey]

I literally read that as you referring to something else that was made. I did not connect it to the game at all.
would this not mean EVPs are a no?

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/view/plink-cat-plink-cat-gif-1794292671885121408

[meager junco]

Tbh from the writing on errant 291 LLRFR thing , I think it might be a gen 1 but how would a gen 1 know what left and right are

[patent ginkgo]

Hmm

[meager junco]

It could’ve just been a scared employee as well

[patent ginkgo]

Good point

And hi Don

[acoustic osprey]

who then had a cardiac arrest

[lethal moat]

Lol, there's a server member named "Neurotenic_Spinosaurus" and they are saucy

And the reason certain rules were made

[scarlet verge]

Just because they look more primitive, might not mean they are

They could be lurking and learning

[meager junco]

Yeh the cardiac arrest makes me think that an echidna “snapped her fingers” in a manner of speaking when she was done with it

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/wf1o.gif

[meager junco]

Dondi said they aren’t that intelligent

[lethal moat]

#isle-lore-theories message

[patent ginkgo]

Neuro has now been recognized by Don

[meager junco]

Smart but not human smart

[scarlet verge]

Ah I missed that one. Ok that clarifies

[lethal moat]

Don't let him find out

[bronze zodiac]

I think gen 1 are at a minimum are chimp smart

[lethal moat]

I'd guess roughly around there, but there are different types of gen 1, so it probably varies

[meager junco]

Probably more than a chimp but inbetween human and chimps

[bronze zodiac]

True

[meager junco]

Smart Gen 1s would be scary asf

[bronze zodiac]

Small children

[lethal moat]

They've moved on from using bone spears...

And they stole Craig's gun

[patent ginkgo]

Alright well, I must sleep

[lethal moat]

Have a good one

[patent ginkgo]

Make sure to lore

And tell me what comes of it

[meager junco]

Imagine in lore at a point, we get a gen 1 that’s evolved beyond Gen 1 intelligence and basically speaks for itself and the hive

[lethal moat]

I will forever dub any employee who makes a mistake Craig because of that one Tapwing art lol

[lethal moat]

Echidna moment perhaps

[meager junco]

Is that the ptero or rugops one

[lethal moat]

Drive Craig Drive

[meager junco]

OH

H giga

[lethal moat]

mhm

[meager junco]

Not even, more a gift from the replicator , kinda like climbing for Augustus

[lethal moat]

[meager junco]

We will name him George

[scarlet verge]

What's the Tapwing art with Craig?

[meager junco]

Let me get it

[lethal moat]

Thanks Shadow

[scarlet verge]

Yeah thanks, I love her art, but I haven't seen that one

[lethal moat]

George of the Jungle Gen 1

[meager junco]

@scarlet verge

[bronze zodiac]

I should probably go sleep before I go on a tired rant

[scarlet verge]

Damn that's terrifying and awesome at the same time

Thanks for digging that up

[lethal moat]

Peace out

[meager junco]

The fact of when you think it can basically just pick up the Jeep, then shake the humans in its mouth is terrifying lol

[lethal moat]

Blunt force trauma within the vehicle that is getting thrown about

[meager junco]

Really hoping H giga stays the same in terms of design, maybe just redoing the textures and some of the modelling but that’s it

[lethal moat]

The split jaw is an interesting design

[meager junco]

I wouldn’t mind seeing it disappear on H spino but not H giga

I’d like H spino to have massive teeth that pertrude it’s upper jaw

[lethal moat]

It was Giga's iconic thing

[meager junco]

Kinda like the tusks of h Rex but sharper and longer

[lethal moat]

I'm wondering if the massive teeth are a universal thing or if it's mainly for rex, which is known for it's bite force, and if so, would that mean that hypers would heavily invest in their main evolutionary trait

[meager junco]

I think how strains work,
Is they work around the animal they are, exploiting the best possible routes and evolution for the creature, so giga having the split jaw makes sense, as it would create giant gashes on sauropods that would bleed them out, Rex can just pick up an anky and crush it like a walnut, spino has a sort of basking mouth for big fish or anything aquatic

H Carno just has a tough bite to bite the food it needs

[lethal moat]

More surface area of teeth yeah

[meager junco]

As much of a Con it is to be a strain, there’s definitely it’s pros

[lethal moat]

High risk high reward

[meager junco]

Hypers is basically “be a nonstop killing monster, for the price of starving out”

[lethal moat]

Growing type-h strains would be intereting, because you can support it at first, but as you get bigger you're forced to realize you can only feed on big stuff or die, and eventually even that's not enough

The exstistential dread of knowing what's coming and not being able to stop it

[meager junco]

Yeh and the chances of finding big stuff to feed you, won’t be too often, at best you’ll find an apex like a Rex to hunt down

Not to mention the footsteps will probably sound like a building getting hit by a wrecking ball

[lethal moat]

The mounting pressure means you still worry while being the beefiest thing on the island

[meager junco]

I’m sure we’ll still see packs of apex’s trying to hunt down hypers when they appear

Possibly 8-10 of them could take 1 down

But only after 7 or so have died

[lethal moat]

That’s about as sustainable as one hyper, you’d have to have multiple people grow it and log out at different times and they all join at once as a sort of extermination squad.

Imagine being the poor gen 2 that draws the short straw to go investigate a hyper vs apex clash and just driving past a torn off Rex head on the way to the main fight.

[meager junco]

Standing in a hyper Rex footprint as Gen 2 could be cool if they truly made them deep and forms mud or dirt around it, same for sauropods

[lethal moat]

You know machine gun nests? I’m picturing that depth

[meager junco]

That would be neat

[lethal moat]

Dense heccin Chonk

[meager junco]

Neuros could have special tracks too, instead of big footprints tho, a purple like translucent slime surrounds the prints

[lethal moat]

Neuro goo

[meager junco]

Neuro goo!!

[acoustic osprey]

wowza, that was certainly a nice lore droppings from Don here

nothing truly grand
but definitely better information on pre-existing topics (questions)

that'll supply us for another few months or so

[lethal moat]

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-javi-gutierrez-pedro-pascal-the-unbearable-weight-of-massive-talent-happy-gif-25135496

[fallow harbor]

whats the perfect image to show someone who thinks the isle is just a dinosaur game?

[fallow harbor]

WHERE?

[fallow harbor]

besides this. like a lore image or something

[patent ginkgo]

That one art with the troodons

[fallow harbor]

i was thinking maybe this as it encaptures humans hypers and the extreem designs

[patent ginkgo]

That could be good, though it’s old

[lethal moat]

I think Gen 1 or the helicopter concept arts

[meager junco]

How bout something like this

Captures the dark essence of the isle

[lethal moat]

Mhm

[balmy pendant]

What the hell is that

[meager junco]

Matriarch, stage2 if I’m not mistaken

[balmy pendant]

Matriarch? I’m very uninformed on this games lore

Gosh Tapwing is OP

Is this thing even gonna be playable?

[meager junco]

Yes that’s her final stage

[meager junco]

We don’t even know if it’ll be ingame

Could be a backstory lore situation

[balmy pendant]

Amazing lol

[meager junco]

But if it were up to me, she shouldn’t be playable, it’s already crazy to think hyper Dino’s will be playable

[balmy pendant]

The lore in this game rich

[balmy pendant]

Agreed

[meager junco]

There is just 3 im not sure on
That’s the Trinity,
Colossus
Echidna
Reaper

[balmy pendant]

No idea what those are

[meager junco]

Hold up

[meager junco]

Colossus

[balmy pendant]

Thats insane

[meager junco]

Reaper

Echidna

[balmy pendant]

Honestly, none of those should be playable.
Would be cool to see remnants of them ingame but no

At this point Pteras 2 shot troodons so. This games not ready

[meager junco]

I think echidna might be more seen than the others

Colossus would’ve starved out a while back, reapers on the other hand I can’t say, as they are being redone as we speak

In legacy there was either 6 or a dozen of them (supposedly)

Reapers I mean^

[balmy pendant]

Alright

[meager junco]

While you’re here, I’ll ask if you would like an invitation to a lore server about the isle

Warning: It can get wild in there

[balmy pendant]

Sure. Depends on what type of wild

[meager junco]

Depends on the people but there’s no offensive stuff if that’s what you mean

[balmy pendant]

I mean language etc

But sure I’ll check it out

[meager junco]

We allow swearing and stuff but like I said just no offensive things are allowed

And alright gimme a second should be in your DMs in a min

It’s been sent

[lethal moat]

Quick note: Poseidon was also the god of Earthquakes, so Poseidon entrance might not be ocean/water based

[maiden sundial]

If we go by mycanean sources he's also a god of death

[nocturne cosmos]

Old gods try not to be five different things challenge impossible

[acoustic osprey]

Zeus was also a minor god

[pseudo fable]

[acoustic osprey]

but I wouldn't be going into more niche and smaller aspects of certain city states
As this was primarily early Mycenean times

[maiden sundial]

And hades didn't exist (that we know of

[acoustic osprey]

at least, if he did, he was not linking with being "of the underworld"

[maiden sundial]

And what's even crazier is that persephone is mentioned at that time too

[acoustic osprey]

presumably akin to Kharon or the Thanatos

[acoustic osprey]

but it shows you the amount of culture blending and story making of Greek Mythos

the worst job was with Helios and Apollo

Apollo and his sister coming from Anatolia

slowly just becoming Helios
and Helios just going full poof

[nocturne cosmos]

I love it when four diffrent gods merge into one randomly

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/ken-kenough-ken-ough-barbie-barbie-movie-2023-gif-16162652993176385621

[nocturne cosmos]

If you aren’t using the most I guess recent meanings for gods their is honestly no point in even trying

Since you’d have to have a very specific time period to know what you need

[acoustic osprey]

but it happens
Destruction of micro cultures within Greece via war and conquering
Culture blending
No organised book(s) ("bible") to all proper Greek gods, and their stories

• not being able to read, unless you were rich, doesn't help

easily you forget about "X" and then your whole micro-culture forgets as well

[maiden sundial]

Btw persephone is more a goddess of death like hades is. Rather than a nature goddess.

[nocturne cosmos]

Some guy writes about this cool epic god in his book and suddenly he’s booming

[maiden sundial]

Like how in sparta aphrodite was a goddess of war, along with her other titles.

[nocturne cosmos]

I think most gods were at least some part war related due to that whole split that happened where they all took sides

[acoustic osprey]

wouldn't be surprised with Ares' connection with her

[pseudo fable]

Just because something has a name doesn't mean it mirrors fates and stories from that mythos. Often it's just due to similarities in descriptor and exaggeration.

[maiden sundial]

And that came from a group that settled an island off the coast of Greece. And that split off from ISHTAR.

[acoustic osprey]

Love and War are big topics and, often, link quite tragically

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah, and we live in a world that "X" must be "X" due to social standards, growth and development, and all lot
when, at that time, there was no internet to organise anything. No giant religious creed. It was an unorganised faith, because it wasn't really faith- just an explanation of the world through bedtime stories

[maiden sundial]

Iirc it was Ishtar, astarte, then aphrodite (Sparta's epithet), and then finally aphrodite. It's really interesting.

[acoustic osprey]

try walk from one city to the next to spread funny stories about Zeus until you made your way through the whole of "Greece"
I can imagine, without cars, not quite fun nor easy

[maiden sundial]

Mhm you'd be praying to pan/Hermes (depending on when and where you are)

[acoustic osprey]

https://www.theoi.com/Cult/AphroditeTitles.html
great website on such

I think i might've shown you already

[acoustic osprey]

or an unknown god because your micro-culture was relatively unknown

[maiden sundial]

True.

[acoustic osprey]

I will now have to thank The Isle for this conversation

[acoustic osprey]

from the sounds of what Don told us a few months back
it sounds less like "stages" now
(like how Evrima doesn't have growth stages, unlike Legacy)

[acoustic osprey]

Oh no, it wasn't big.
It was just words.

anything like that is great.
The lack there of helps with boosting the dopamine collected from getting to learn anything more

[lethal moat]

@meager junco, you talked about the matriarch and didn’t ping me? /j

[acoustic osprey]

A bit more stuff on the botany side is always great
Knocking down possibilities with a Gen1+2 theory is also good.

[acoustic osprey]

true blasphemy

[lethal moat]

Oh yeah, I had a thought

[acoustic osprey]

hit me

[lethal moat]

You know how we talked about strains being seemingly “unfinished” in terms of whatever AE was trying to accomplish?

[acoustic osprey]

i wouldn't be surprised if they were, more or less, unfinished
in the way that they were not near their end-goal

something like we've been thinking about with Gen1s and, possibly, Gen2s

Especially Gen1s
Possibly helping, somehow, with whatever happened on Gateway

[lethal moat]

Well, I just thought that that it means either strains as we know appeared relatively close to the incident, or that AE didn’t fully understand what they were doing, I’m consistently leaning further and further towards the second option

[acoustic osprey]

what I'd like to know is if the same issue occured on other islands

and if so, how.
How organised, disorganised or chaotic was it

[lethal moat]

But we all know that the matriarch is the final product of strain research because it’s perfect

[acoustic osprey]

they seem to, at least, had some sort of idea
at least with Don's comments on them being indirectly linked/related with medicine

maybe leads to the aspect of the trinity, with Echidna (for example)

maybe they had a patient with a brain tumor, etc, or some form of complete nerve damage

[lethal moat]

Might be a nuclear situation of “btw there’s a small chance that this causes atmospheric ignition” except that bad possibility actually happened

[acoustic osprey]

oh damn, we turned you into a monster

[lethal moat]

Someone with nowhere else to go and became an experiment in a last ditch effort

[acoustic osprey]

not again!

[lethal moat]

Oopsy

[acoustic osprey]

i see it, have seen it at least, as akin to being an Astronaut
especially in the 80s to 90s

You're going to do this.
You might help all of mankind, but in the process... you may die

https://tenor.com/view/pills-drugs-medicine-blue-pill-red-pill-gif-12463860

it's a bit cliche now
but, red pill and blue pill option

[pseudo fable]

Sometimes you're all very close.

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/dora-dora-the-explorer-boots-oh-man-oh-mannnn-gif-5485872

[lethal moat]

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

[acoustic osprey]

But I do see the time period shown by the roadmap, early to mid 90s, as a good representation and placement of such situation/scenario
I understand AE might not exist in our world, in terms of world events occurring in the same way- such as the Cold War existing

but the time the 80s and into the 90s is a pretty perfect, fitting for the genre/subgenre, setting for aspects like this
as a definite time of lack* of prime safety with better and more perfected universal technology

I don't presume we'll get any sort of story like a "red pill x blue pill option" (being, I imagine, harder to do. A LOT harder than putting it in-lore than, say, ERRANT-291's incident. As it's a lot more "story" than "event")

[acoustic osprey]

we'll get 'em next time Rump

[lethal moat]

We talked about like , 4 things, now we get to theorize about which of our theories he was referencing

[acoustic osprey]

especially working in the theatre industry
Hearing stories from the 90s and early 00s is pretty crazy

but that goes for all stories, especially early 90s/late 80s

[meager junco]

My bad I thought you’d be stalking the channel ngl

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/got-game-of-thrones-ned-eddard-stark-gif-8425074

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/Yifw.gif

That one.

[lethal moat]

I’m very busy today

[acoustic osprey]

Thank you
beautiful gif though

[meager junco]

Oh yeh I’m not even getting that deep into it, I was just stating which stage of taps art it was,
But this does make me curious about what evolving means

[acoustic osprey]

fair enough, ha

those works by Tap were really solid

[lethal moat]

(I was asleep at the time)

[acoustic osprey]

but, heck, it depends
is it really "leveled evolution"?

from the sounds of it, it might some sort of weird ditto-esque (without the "turning back to your original self" part) monster that just grows, grows, grows

ditto isn't the best example though
as that's "turning into the thing"

but the general gist of copy and replicate

but, intaking (like Kirby)

[meager junco]

Don you’ve been surprisingly active in here lately…what you planning

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/shyx.gif

Abysmal quality of gif. I am ashamed.

[meager junco]

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/airplane-serious-shirley-surely-mad-gif-5684568

[meager junco]

So basically
Matriarch that looks humanish is one example of it evolving

[acoustic osprey]

I suppose it could honestly

[lethal moat]

Does this mean that we’ll get a glimpse somewhere of what the trinity was before they became what they are today?

[acoustic osprey]

(Don wouldn't know what that unofficial term would be referring to)

[meager junco]

I’d love for matriarch to also sort of mimic in a way to lure prey in

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/ba5K0.gif

[lethal moat]

The three humanoid strains My bad

[meager junco]

What’s in that book I must know

[acoustic osprey]

Reminds me of what was said about Echidna

[meager junco]

Mhm

[pseudo fable]

Why don't you just fully expand your question to be as clear as possible

[meager junco]

He means what’s the status on these 3

[lethal moat]

Will we see some sort of report or file about the people that the echidna, reaper, and colossus were before they had strains inflicted upon them

[acoustic osprey]

(before and after)

[meager junco]

^

[pseudo fable]

Knowing what they are answers both, I think.

[acoustic osprey]

interesting

[meager junco]

Hmmm

[lethal moat]

I was about to ask wether or nothing this confirms if they were human, rather than gen 1 or 2

[patent ginkgo]

woah, lore

[meager junco]

But wasn’t reapers design never truly official? Does this mean the old design is remaining or somewhat staying similar to it?

[patent ginkgo]

I wonder if troodon has something to do with strains

Given that it was something of a test run for modifying something

[lethal moat]

Because of Isaac’s cosmonaut theory, I’m going to assume that the humanoid strains were probably on a human, possibly Gen 2, because it implies they knew what they were doing was going to be impactful, and because of how I think the timeline of events played out

[acoustic osprey]

Discord has been stinky, downloading a star wars mod for Squad

So I'm phone and reading what I missed

[lethal moat]

Hold on a second, when Dondi said knowing what they are answers both, does that mean we’re misunderstanding or don’t truly know what they are? Would make sense since we haven’t seen them since legacy

[acoustic osprey]

I suppose it truly depends
Don knows the answer

It seems similar to Dalts guess about the purpose of strains

But
It seems in this context though

In terms of the theory I had
We either are:

• missing one bit of the puzzle
• got an aspect wrong in that guess
  - or multiple aspects
• or a mixture of all of above

[lethal moat]

We like to dance around the answer and extend our own torment

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[lethal moat]

Another question we need to consider is if the echidna is still the “mother of cannibals”

Because if so that changes things a bit about what we might or might not presume about Gen 1 behavior

Because I can think of three implications that depend on that title

1. The echidna is working with the more intelligent Gen 1 to further either it’s own goals or the purpose of the replicator
2. It’s taking advantage of a species not as intelligent or powerful as itself (Gen 1) for either the reasons above or just to survive easier.
3. If it isn’t the mother of cannibals and is just a solo neurotenic mastermind

[acoustic osprey]

that's if she still holds that title in Evrima

[lethal moat]

Exactly

Ngl, the idea of 16 reapers terrifies me, even if they are only like shoulder height, wonder how much of that will change and if it means that Tissoplastic is the most stable/reliable strain

I know that’s legacy, but still interesting

[iron anchor]

they updated it to the latest squad version?

[pseudo fable]

Yes. New factions as well IIRC.

[iron anchor]

awesome

[hexed forge]

Dondi if you are in the chat, can I ask yah a question?

Would you think this map is accurate? Of the bases and the grid system? Not made by me Btw

[ionic sable]

If that map isn't accurate then I am in a bit of trouble lol

[hexed forge]

Lets hope he responds

[pseudo fable]

Eyeballing it looks kinda close.

But I can't say without editor open currently, which it isn't.

[lethal moat]

Epic

[hexed forge]

@acoustic osprey YEAHHHH

Thank you so much dondi, it has been my top question for weeks now

[pseudo fable]

Either way you'll get a grid next video anyway.

[ionic sable]

Oh neat.

[hexed forge]

Oh nice

By next video you mean the dibble video right? Or is the video not centered around dibble?

[lethal moat]

Nice

[hexed forge]

I wonder if A15 still exists, or was it just an example during one of the old streams

[lethal moat]

Shadow’s right, you’ve been suspiciously talkative Dondi -.-

[pseudo fable]

Could be nothing.

[hexed forge]

That means he is excited about something..... maybe..

[pseudo fable]

Or it's truly nothing.

[hexed forge]

Or that, yes

[pseudo fable]

Reading into things like shows me why psychics can just lie to people.

"It's nothing."

There is definitely something planned.

Nope, it's nothing.

[robust ether]

[hexed forge]

My brain is having issues processing dondi, you didnt need to further explain. Now Im questioning life

Damnit I just butchered that sentence ffs

[ionic sable]

Usually I joke about hidden meanings behind any and every dev message, then I am quickly reminded by replies that people actually take those things seriously... then I lose a little more faith in this community.

[lethal moat]

I’m not reading into it per say, it’s just been very little in terms of lore for the past few months

[violet notch]

you can't really read too far into a single sentence, especially when it's typed out so you don't even have tone to go off of

[hexed forge]

GUTS is just a placeholder name right?

[ionic sable]

I hope not

[hexed forge]

hmm k

[lethal moat]

We have it listed in a document we were given, so even if it isn’t official, it was used

[hexed forge]

Lore.. Lore... lore.... it felt like it has been a decade since the last lore video...

[ionic sable]

Interesting to know we are getting a Gateway grid map in the next video.

Maybe a species tracker UI or something like that, interested to see what style they go for if that is the case.

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/insanity-kiryu-kiryu-kazuma-yakuza-yakuza-5-gif-7033429113756081086

[lethal moat]

As we get more smaller game updates would we also be getting more often, if smaller, lore drops?

[hexed forge]

We had mini lore drops yesterday and today tho? If ofc it counts as lore drops

[lethal moat]

He’s narrowing stuff down for us rather than giving us new stuff, which I like

[hexed forge]

Rumple would you think adding isaacs map to the document now is good? Since we kind of got a semi-confirmation from dondi today, like.. a few minutes ago

I say semi because its similar, not 100% on point.

[lethal moat]

I think it’s best to wait for the video thing he talked about

[hexed forge]

It could be another few months

[patent ginkgo]

Yahoo

[lethal moat]

That’s alright

Accept the lore as it comes

[patent ginkgo]

With all due respect, easy for you to say

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah, it's been down for ages

[acoustic osprey]

THANK YOU

[hexed forge]

Yeah, rumple got secret info from dondi yesterday smh, bro is probably filled with lore to last him till the end of the game

[acoustic osprey]

Oh crap, pinged

[patent ginkgo]

Banned

[acoustic osprey]

Sorry about that Don

[hexed forge]

Rest in peace isaac, we will never forget you

[ionic sable]

https://tenor.com/view/white-light-death-smiling-died-with-a-smile-final-fantasy_xiv-gif-25336896

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/airplane-serious-shirley-surely-mad-gif-5684568

[patent ginkgo]

Don will now turn you into a strain

[hexed forge]

Shirley

[patent ginkgo]

I bet the line before this was surely you’re not serious

I’m so smart

[hexed forge]

Nono... the lips dont match

he said something in 3-4 words

@lethal moat Have you ever showed dondi the document?

[lethal moat]

I haven’t gone out of my way to make him aware of it no

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/thinking-gif-8947210247993739266

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit here yah go dondi if you are in the chat

[ionic sable]

[hexed forge]

2 people on the document... who is it..

Oh wait I know who one of them is, but who is the other

[lethal moat]

I should be always viewing the document, I have it open as a tab on my pc constantly

[hexed forge]

I took that place

Wait are you saying you are on the doc rn? But... you are at work?

[lethal moat]

Huh

[hexed forge]

Huh

Did we just confuse ourselves

[patent ginkgo]

Cerato is just rambling his sanity away

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/crazy-jim-carrey-weird-i-am-completely-sane-liar-liar-gif-16308262

[patent ginkgo]

No lore?

[hexed forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/859369469482631168/1174008360723546122/Untitled_video_-_Made_with_Clipchamp.gif

[lethal moat]

Yep

[hexed forge]

oh

[lethal moat]

Tell me what my status on discord says

[hexed forge]

You are a cryptid

A 19 year old cryptid who goes to college

[lethal moat]

That’s my about me, not my status

[hexed forge]

Looking for the isle lore

[lethal moat]

And I’m not a cryptid

[lethal moat]

Exactly

[patent ginkgo]

Don’t you already know it?

[hexed forge]

Dondi already told you all of it

[lethal moat]

No and no

[patent ginkgo]

Woah!

[hexed forge]

He is lying, I know it

[lethal moat]

Would someone named Rumplestiltskin ever lie?

[hexed forge]

Yes, you are cryptid! You are lying in your about me!

Clear evidence right here!

[lethal moat]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1184681758231363636/1199026030732660817/Cryptid_Activity.png?ex=65ca4582&is=65b7d082&hm=2847c85ec39cb7914cc5851fc27fc5742c2af2c0b7392faa5cbff78fe7a10e05&

[lethal moat]

Thanks Hacker

[hexed forge]

[signal wolf]

Rumple face reveal?!

[hexed forge]

Nah its a random guy on google

[signal wolf]

interesting

[hexed forge]

Heres a more accurate picture, rumple and his twin lost brother

[signal wolf]

i figured so

[lethal moat]

Perhaps

[acoustic osprey]

Yay

[acoustic osprey]

Have you never watched Airplane! ?

[lethal moat]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/979068369724645506/1198113650024656937/vJuLlbrg.gif

[hexed forge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/979068369724645506/1198113650024656937/vJuLlbrg.gif

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-airplane-dont-call-me-shirley-seriously-question-gif-5690231

[lethal moat]

Thanks

[lethal moat]

Ok Shirley

[patent ginkgo]

Nope

[signal wolf]

oh how fun

[acoustic osprey]

Damn

[hexed forge]

The Pixar planes movie?

[acoustic osprey]

No....

[lethal moat]

The more we learn, the less I think about the Replicator as potentially being sentient and more of an extremely complex tool that was misused or given the wrong command

[patent ginkgo]

replicator chatgpt niche

[lethal moat]

Something like that

[meager junco]

Yeh sentient or not, I do believe it’s still following a special command that AE tasked it with, a question they didn’t truly know what they were asking for

[acoustic osprey]

but you know what the domes nead
Lights
Just small lights

like the trail lights at the fence bridge

[lethal moat]

Lights on the corners and around what might be that hydraulic entrance would be interesting

[meager junco]

Agreed, a row of lights going each ridge or something would be really nice

[hexed forge]

loreee lore loreeee bbababbabab

Dondi if you are in the chat, is H4. The location shown in the augustus video coming to the game, or is it already in the game. (The cameras ofc are just cameras from different bases)

[patent ginkgo]

Dondi, if in chat, enjoy food within the next 24 hours

[hexed forge]

Dondi, if in chat, I hope you are hydrated for the next 24 hours

[lethal moat]

I inflict upon thee the curse of you are now manually breathing and blinking

[patent ginkgo]

Mean

[nimble fractal]

Why so mean 🥲

[lethal moat]

[nimble fractal]

No image permissions to post matriarch pics for you

[lethal moat]

[fallow harbor]

agagagaagahahaha

[lethal moat]

[meager junco]

Be nice to rump

[ionic sable]

Yeah!

He only deserves a little torment.

[meager junco]

Just a smidge

[lethal moat]

[hexed forge]

@lethal moat You are such a poopy fart head!!1!1!!

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/when-no-have-ammo-no-ammo-gif-5440254

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/when-no-have-ammo-no-ammo-gif-5440254

[lethal moat]

Thanks

[meager junco]

You just gif-fed yourself

[hexed forge]

[meager junco]

So we always had pretty good information on N spino and echidna in legacy
But never on N Rex which was supposedly a planned thing for legacy
I’m curious if Rex is a sort of psychic killer kinda like echidna is, tricks prey while it stalks it or, tricks it into running into the neuro Rexs bite

The veins going to the eyes tells me it’s got some sort of powerful brain

[lethal moat]

Our lack of information could be a massive misunderstanding or it could be us assuming all the things are similar

[meager junco]

Yeh I’m just trying to find conversation cause it’s a boring Sunday lol

[lethal moat]

Fair

Smort dinos are scary

[meager junco]

Smart and mysterious

It makes me wonder how neuros are kept in captivity , it must require a special material or machine to stop neuros brainwaves from getting to staff

Maybe everything is just frozen till ready for field tests but I’d rather not that

[strange shell]

I'm pretty sure they aren't

In legacy lore neuro spino was "not intended" and was designated to be terminated as soon as they learned about it

[nimble fractal]

Where can I see that part?

[lethal moat]

I wasn't aware of that

[meager junco]

They were also “not completed” from what I remember, basically neuro spino was always a failed project

[lethal moat]

I mean, both the strains we know the most about are horrendously flawed, so I would say that neither are finished

[nimble fractal]

Where can I see the document 😭

[meager junco]

I’d say hyper has succeeded in terms of what they wanted as a creature, with the downside of extremely fast metabolism

[lethal moat]

They were never perfected

[meager junco]

Yeh definitely not, that all leaves tisso, but since matriarch was a byproduct of it, I’d say it’s a possibility that tisso was somewhat of a success?

[lethal moat]

Tisso being the most complete strain could work

[meager junco]

I’m just saying things, we also do know AE has a tendency of keeping any asset alive,failed or not

[lethal moat]

Well we don't know exactly how entombment works

[meager junco]

That’s true, I was more referring to keeping Gen 1 alive but I completely forgot about TOMB

[lethal moat]

We don't really know if Gen 1 was supposed to be loose or still alive

[meager junco]

I was actually just thinking that,
If possibly there was only a dozen Gen 1s, all considered “failures” but the gen 1 code is still in the replicator, meaning when it went rogue/sentient, she just dumped a mass of Gen 1s onto AE

[lethal moat]

I do wonder how the replicator decides what to make more of

[meager junco]

I mean, probably whatever is the most useful for whatever situation

Revolution would be gen 1 as you’ve theorized

Other than that it’s hard to tell, as we don’t know where strains 100% come from

[hexed forge]

[lethal moat]

Right

[hexed forge]

I sense something coming this week

[meager junco]

We’ll know once dondi posts the usual update GIFs

[eager marsh]

Does Dondi do any live Q+As ever?

[lethal moat]

Kinda

[meager junco]

His streams

[eager marsh]

Twitch I presume?

[hexed forge]

I mean sometimes other devs hop in isle discussion and answer questions

[lethal moat]

Yep

[eager marsh]

What's his handle?

[lethal moat]

https://www.twitch.tv/thedondi

[eager marsh]

ty

[lethal moat]

How much do you want to know about lore

[eager marsh]

As in the lore of this game? I've literally never played it. lol

[lethal moat]

[eager marsh]

Full disclosure, I came here because Dondi and I go way back. We havent spoken in years though. Something recently reminded me of him and I decided to look him up, which led me here.

[lethal moat]

Huh

[eager marsh]

I just wanted to say hello. The game looks cool though. Is there actually lore?

[lethal moat]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit

[hexed forge]

@lethal moat May I get permission to....yk..

[lethal moat]

Indoctrinate him

[eager marsh]

Oh wow

[hexed forge]

@eager marsh So there is a server called "lorecord" where we discuss a lot of lore on the isle, if you wish to learn more I advise you to join it? Do you accept? 😊

[eager marsh]

Ok that's more in line with what I'd expect from him. I saw that he was involved in this game and was just like "Dino simulator? Really?"

[eager marsh]

I'll be honest, I doubt I'll follow it that deep. I most just came through to say hello to my old buddy. lol

[hexed forge]

Ah damn alright 👍

[eager marsh]

But if there's any youtube channels talking about it that I can listen to while I'm at work, I'd love to get it.

[hexed forge]

Oh yes, we have a podcast and there is a lore maniac called isaac who has made a video on it.

[eager marsh]

link me

[hexed forge]

Podcast or the YT video?

[eager marsh]

YT preferrably

But I'll check the podcast out

[hexed forge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrIu_rZOiJk&t=94s here is the Yt video, btw this only discusses like, 5% of the lore.

https://open.spotify.com/show/4nkw9nPzbZDfhb0k4LL8F3?si=LbyOH56LTsmepa50p7yQ1Q&nd=1&dlsi=1d85d9ebb2b241e9 podcast here

[hexed forge]

And if you wish to discover the lore more in depth, you are free to ask to be invited to the server. Your choice. 👍

[eager marsh]

Thanks!

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-wittich-the-isle-pizza-dondi-gif-21866430

[hexed forge]

I need my fences on the map

[lethal moat]

Finished fences and sector names would be great

[hexed forge]

Oh yeah, the grid/map is going to be shown in the next video. So maybe we will get to see it there... but having it ingame would be great too

[lethal moat]

PDA tablet maybe?

[hexed forge]

Perhaps, but what i meant is that actual fences and gates with sector numbers on them

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/kronk-emperors-new-groove-its-all-coming-together-gif-12813012

[hexed forge]

https://tenor.com/view/kronk-emperors-new-groove-its-all-coming-together-gif-12813012

[patent ginkgo]

https://tenor.com/view/kronk-emperors-new-groove-its-all-coming-together-gif-12813012

[lethal moat]

Thanks

[hexed forge]

HA, I was first jolly

[patent ginkgo]

[lethal moat]

He pinged me tho

[hexed forge]

[acoustic osprey]

NEVER

[hexed forge]

YES

[strange shell]

iirc I read that in Hellshade's doc, which is probably still pinned here

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/bqZ40.gif

@eager marsh You rang?

[lethal moat]

@meager junco Speak of the devil and he shall arrive lol

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/view/heinzel-evil-dance-cursed-summoning-devil-gif-17325881

[lethal moat]

That gif would be better if they just kept constant eye contact without moving their heads

[meager junco]

HA

[lethal moat]

We have a question about the matriarch

Well, several, but a specific one this time

[meager junco]

So don, this is a question for some of us , don’t need to answer it, is matriarch actually a female or does it even have a gender?

Just asking due to the name being matriarch

[lethal moat]

And/or the reasoning for that name

[meager junco]

^ that as well would be great

[fallow harbor]

hi don!

[meager junco]

I think I scared him off with my question

[lethal moat]

[meager junco]

I blame matriarch and her mysterious ways

[lethal moat]

Another thing that just popped up Don, will there any reference or allegory to Cerberus?

[lethal moat]

[pseudo fable]

Probably not.

[meager junco]

we’re just unloading ideas that come to mind

[lethal moat]

Alrighty

[lethal moat]

All my ideas are just throwing stuff until something sticks, why use nuance when I can brute force my brain

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/bcnsm.gif

[lethal moat]

Outsourcing ideas to the lore server is my specialty, I just set the idea or spin our wheel of topics for the day and then we discuss

[ionic sable]

Hmmm, Hey Don, is the UI shown in the roadmap and Augustus videos the most up-to-date interface Apollo has access to?

[pseudo fable]

It's the most up to date one you've been shown.

[ionic sable]

Roger

[lethal moat]

Someone had a good question the other day let me find it

[meager junco]

Have we ever asked or confirmed for the directions on errants sheet

LLLRFL or something

[lethal moat]

Oh yeah, are strains unfinished products?

[lethal moat]

I feel like that’s something we’ll have to find ourselves whenever GUTS opens up

[ionic sable]

Might want to be more specific there.

[meager junco]

I’m thinking the same, an Easter egg for real lore people

[lethal moat]

Did strains ever accomplish the end goal of their creation?

[meager junco]

Like how Neuro Spino was never completed or a success

[lethal moat]

We spend too much time looking at Tapwing’s unofficial stuff, I think it alters our perception of what’s coming and what isn’t

[ionic sable]

Hmm, at this point I'm more curious if that Neuro Spino design is still canon/up to date.

[lethal moat]

But it’s very nice

[meager junco]

Probably not

[ionic sable]

Yeah kinda that.

[meager junco]

But neuro does seem to be a very difficult strain to perfect

[lethal moat]

If hypers got a redesign, I don’t see why Neuro would or wouldn’t, it’s really hard to tell without confirmation

[lethal moat]

It’s a very interesting concept, even if you think about the moral implications of giving an animal more intelligence

[eager marsh]

I'll shoot you a message.

[ionic sable]

To be fair, in game we are essentially only seeing the final products of each creature/strain. It's not like they'd still be developing automatically without input.

[lethal moat]

Depends on if they got what they wanted out of the strains whether or not it’s truly finished, because functional and finalized aren’t the same thing

[ionic sable]

I suppose.

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/bVg3K.gif