isle-lore-theories

[lethal moat]

Interesting idea, but the sorting bays could show that the island either wasn’t finished being constructed, or those piles were for maintenance of concrete, roads, etc, on the island, my best guess is roads, seeing how some of them are a little washed out

[sour rivet]

Dilo x Neuro ?

[sour rivet]

I think Dilo may have some Neuro DNA in it (the current Dilo that got released) because certain elements of its hallucinogenics don’t make sense to me.

Dilos venom is obviously a form of hallucinogen that specifically targets the visual cortex of the brain and it also attacks the auditorial cortex, so yeah it’s venom causing these affects is not „impossible“ but It IS rather extreme (the affect it causes). I mean causing harm to its prey through hallucinations ?

Ok assuming the dinosaurs feel some form of phantom pain, after the venom subsides any kind of injury should immediately vanish and be healed (since they weren’t really damaged in the first case) so what if it can through its Neuro powers cause some actual damage ?

[lethal moat]

Interesting theory, could be possible, my bet is just weird genetic mutation, could be possible, I just doubt it

[sour rivet]

It would be a great teaser though slowly implementing animals that have a fraction of the strains power

[tropic pagoda]

FNAF at freddy's

[lethal moat]

Thought: What if islandwalker is getting retconned to a particularly massive crustacean

[raven imp]

i love that the spino looks so confused

[lethal moat]

Wha

[raven imp]

bro gets spat on by a dilo and just goes "welp... guess that just happened"

[lethal moat]

Did he just eat a glow stick?

[muted lion]

the venom could also just cause real damage and the affected animal hallucinates the cause of the damage to be the dilos

[lethal moat]

That’s my assumption, it’s just venom, but there is always potential

[sour rivet]

Yeah that might be true (do hallucinations cause bleed dmg ?)

[lethal moat]

No, its damage based hunter now, rather than bleeding

[sour rivet]

Hmm yeah ok than the Neuro thing may be a stretch

[hollow token]

@stone coyote

stinky

[lethal moat]

That seems juvenile and unnecessary

[hollow token]

?

[icy onyx]

yeah that’s…

Idk

It seems childish to me

[lethal moat]

Anyway, this channel is for lore, back to pondering giant crustaceans and island walkers and matriarchs

[icy onyx]

isopod playable

[low scarab]

Islandwalkers let’s chat

[low scarab]

NO

[icy onyx]

Why no

[lethal moat]

Wonder if it transferred over to Evrima

[icy onyx]

They silly

[low scarab]

Because it’s cool

But the name is scary and I love it

Like islandwalker that’s just freaky it’s out of where it’s supposed to be

So cool

Wait so with the crustaceans don confirmed that climate change is an issue

[lethal moat]

I still like my super tentative theory that Tartarus is originally made by an islandwalker and then AE took over

[low scarab]

Made by an islandwalker?

[lethal moat]

Like, a giant burrow or nest under the island maybe, idk, I just like the thought

[low scarab]

Where you watching the stream when don gave that lore

[lethal moat]

What lore specifically? It’s just a wild theory that I came up with

[low scarab]

No the crustacean thing

[low scarab]

This

[lethal moat]

He mentioned megaflora in the oceans in an attempt to slow/reverse climate change and a containment leak led to giant crustaceans

[meager junco]

Damn that definitely is far fetched

Would they be native to earth or something?

[low scarab]

Yes so he did imply that climate change most likely has a part in lore large or small

[lethal moat]

Dunno, it’s just one of those shotgun theories

[lethal moat]

Mhm

[low scarab]

This probably has something to do with why dinosaurs

Which intrigues me

[lethal moat]

I think it’s one of the steps between agriculture and dinosaurs, possibly the one where they switched from megaflora to megafauna

[meager junco]

They probably use the same engineering they use on plants for growth, becoming fully grown in a matter of hours or with bigger creatures, days

[lethal moat]

Possibly

[stone coyote]

You're stinky. Now go play the isle and enjoy the new update

[lethal moat]

Howdy Anth

[meager junco]

Damn never thought I’d see you in here anth

[hollow token]

will do🫡

[icy onyx]

I didn’t think he would respond lol

[hollow token]

that just made my day lol

[icy onyx]

Getting called stinky 🔥

[lethal moat]

Iirc he was pretty big into legacy stuff

[meager junco]

That’s true, I just didn’t think he’d come in here especially for a reason like that

[hollow token]

this is why i love anth

[lethal moat]

Stinky is a grave offense

[hollow token]

goated youtuber

[icy onyx]

He wasn’t gonna let it slide

[lethal moat]

His old lore related stuff was one of the things that got me in

Let’s go, lore podcast has 40 plays per episode, information is slowly spreading

[sour rivet]

I heard y‘all need my knowledge ?

What’s the problem muchachos

[patent ginkgo]

What do you see in the orb? We need lore predictions

[sour rivet]

You see…

This is one of the nights but dare I say it ?

[lethal moat]

Sometimes the lore theorizes you

[sour rivet]

Ok what if they are trying to do something unlike ever before seen

[lethal moat]

Basically the entirety of this game tbf

[sour rivet]

Well you see that’s where you are wrong they accidentally made stuff !

[lethal moat]

“Please let this be a normal server”
“With the lore team? NO WAY”

[sour rivet]

Impossible

[acoustic osprey]

Basically the second half of the paragraph

I don't think it's the top part to tell you the truth

I don't think it's ready for such

[acoustic osprey]

More so Meatylock

[low scarab]

With the isle? No way

[low scarab]

Why would there be dinosaurs and other creatures if it wasn’t done being constructed

[lethal moat]

Maybe it’s an unfinished project, but your guys are right, probably for maintenance

[low scarab]

I miss meatylock

I looked in the comments of his latest video he was talking about how his internet is really bad where he lives there wasn’t much to cover and didn’t have time for it

[acoustic osprey]

that's fair

it's certainly why I want to try and do akin to what MeatyLock did
but, for Evrima

and make it mine

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/mine-finding-nemo-mine-mine-mine-thats-mine-lulugifs-gif-20827668

[thorn junco]

Havent checked on the lore in while what's up with the humans role/objectives

[acoustic osprey]

from what we know and have been told
Ignore everything you know about Mercenaries and what mercenaries are

where it seems like Humans are going less to be Hunters, by default, and more so going around and surviving via fixing up the map/buildings

to what extent? no idea

[thorn junco]

I feel like there's gotta be some pretty important stuff on their minds to put up with surviving the islands lol

[lethal moat]

They might not have a choice, but we’ll see

[snow jasper]

Humans have eyes about 9ft from the back of their heads

[thorn junco]

I like the work casual zookeeper drip they have

[low scarab]

Ew why is there third person

[snow jasper]

pressed c

they didn't want you to know this

[acoustic osprey]

and it feels weird to work as well

[low scarab]

I will be genuinely upset if they implement third person on official servers

[acoustic osprey]

or just in-general

Humans should always be first person

[low scarab]

Agreed but I will be slightly less upset if it was just for community servers

[low scarab]

^

[acoustic osprey]

still

they should only be in First Person in my opinion

if you want to distrupt the true intended playstyle, make it a mod

[low scarab]

No I agree first person in almost all cases

[novel prairie]

how are you playing humans

[low scarab]

I’m afraid to bring up mods and how they will work

[acoustic osprey]

some unofficials have them on

[novel prairie]

😮

[lethal moat]

I can see Gen 1 being third person, though I would prefer first

[low scarab]

You have the lore accent for it I bet you could pull it off

[acoustic osprey]

lore accent!!

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/buster-keaton-tea-gif-11399815

Isaac rn

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/laughs-in-british-britain-british-laughs-lol-gif-20412690

[low scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/cup-of-tea-teapot-cuppa-hot-cup-of-tea-scalding-hot-gif-17825685

But no seriously

[lethal moat]

You got the knowledge in ur noggin

[low scarab]

You sound like this guy who explains Elden ring lore

[acoustic osprey]

hahaha

i suppose we should rename the Lore Podcast to the Lore Teaparty then

[lethal moat]

Whenever we do open discussion all call the episode that

[acoustic osprey]

hahaha

[low scarab]

https://youtu.be/DYDs_Inzkz4?si=8ClRftKH6JXhxiuz

You both got similar accents

Although maybe it’s just because your British

Low service!

[lethal moat]

He doesn’t know

[low scarab]

Nah he doesn’t

Why did you delete that lol?

[lethal moat]

I didn’t know if I was doxing him but he’s got his steam page public so it doesn’t matter

[acoustic osprey]

just because I lived in England for a tiny doesn't mean I'm British 🍵

[low scarab]

Some one put the “British people when they wake up and realize they have to do the accent all day” meme

[acoustic osprey]

I don't mind Rump.
I'm Aussie from Malta with some Scottish heritage

[low scarab]

That’s what they all say

[low scarab]

It’s wild what some British tea can do to a man

[acoustic osprey]

completely changes a man

[acoustic osprey]

NO!!!!!

[lethal moat]

Anywhomst next topic for podcast is ERRANT-291, or we could do lore tea party between that one

[acoustic osprey]

Errant-291 is pretty interesting

[low scarab]

Cardiac arrest is weird

[acoustic osprey]

I say, ERRANT-291 and maybe Augustus
Alongside potential theories for the next video (the diablo)

[low scarab]

Neuro ability maybe

[lethal moat]

The people have spoken

[acoustic osprey]

oooo

[low scarab]

Ahhh

[acoustic osprey]

wait, how do I vote!

[lethal moat]

Augustus and Errant are good ones to talk about together though, if we end up not spending an hour on Errant, we can to Augustus

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[lethal moat]

Somewhere where you find the podcast I guess? Idk I just make stuff and see the results

[acoustic osprey]

mmm

[lethal moat]

Errant is up next and because of how much it connects to, it’ll be a doozy

[low scarab]

It was open for like 4 days after the podcast was posted you vote under the podcast description

[low scarab]

Really? Does this podcast include the map he was holding

[lethal moat]

Yeah, that’s probably what we’ll spend the most time on, you can do a schpeal on the botany r/d if you like

Wait, that’s Jolly’s thing, my bad

[low scarab]

R/d?

[low scarab]

NO I’m stealing plant strains topic from him it’s mine all mine

https://tenor.com/view/lord-of-the-rings-my-precious-scream-gif-17264451

[acoustic osprey]

yeah!!

[low scarab]

Do we even know what it means like if it’s not a map what is jt

Is it showing relationship?

[lethal moat]

Not a map, it’s an abstract guide, so it shows us pretty much everything at one site designation, most likely gateway

[acoustic osprey]

if you want to be very simple, it's a map of sort

like the london tube map is a map

however, the technical term is more so a "Network Graph"

unlike a map, which is supposed to be a, more or less, accurate and scaled guide

network graphs are more abstract
and utilise features, not scale, to show you where to go

for example, this

[lethal moat]

Shows what is connected to what, but not the path or how it’s connected, we just know it’s GUTS tunnels, though the different patterns could be different types of tunnels

[acoustic osprey]

and seeing as the map refers to GUTS
It seems to be connected somehow

[acoustic osprey]

more or less a very lose and inaccurate drawing of the path
As going to "X" to "Y" is a lot more than a straight line

[lethal moat]

Exactly

[acoustic osprey]

HOWEVER
I will note.

From my original theories, I do think what the map is supposed to be has changed

from this rather minute section of the map
https://gyazo.com/a207cf394dd5ffdaa48f983cd06ac82a

I think, rather less that it being THE GUTS map
It's a location in which is accessed through GUTS

https://gyazo.com/9121e69381afe5cfad7eaaf383f10356

[lethal moat]

Right

[acoustic osprey]

I think this is supposed to be Perimeter

[lethal moat]

Could just be the entirety of Gateway, the island being the site

[acoustic osprey]

i think so less

it refers to Site designation
rather than island / map

in which is accessed through GUTS

I doubt GUTS is also externally connected, besides a plane or boat

as they're all supposed to be underground

[lethal moat]

Right, what I’m saying is

All of those connections are within one site, which is the island, since it says site designation applying over the entirety of the page rather than just as the one section of the page

[acoustic osprey]

I, more or less, relatively doubt this know.
As per my reference to GUTS- in which I doubted Gateway being accessed through GUTS. As we know GUTS are supposed to be the GUTS of Gateway, rather than an internationally linked spiderweb underground tunnel system

In which I could still very much see Perimeter holding all of these facets within.
The whole dome is large enough and is basically within the midpoint of the map, making it perfect to connect to.
Being a nice hub for everything

I can very much see Zeus Entry being part of if not is the large cylinder tube in the middle of Perimeter
Hades Entry being the tunnel near the bottom of Perim.
and Poseidon the tube from the lake

It could very likely still be wrong.
But the top left text just allude, to be, the possibility this isn't the whole map
but a single site itself.

I will take note in the wording of "Site"
I would much rather be on the side of this being the whole map if it weren't for both reference of "Sites"

• One with "SITE DESIGNATION"
• And the other being "General Site Designations"

If simple areas (locations/places) such as a Botany area is referred to a site but also the whole map itself having a "Site Designation", why would (If it is Gateway) Gateway be called a site? Rather than location/island/facility

I will note that Legacy lore islands were, relatively, referred to as "Site"
eg. Site AE-12 (OLYMPUS)
but to the extent of what it was, whether an actual island or just general area, was pretty unexplored

Especially simple things on the map
Such as Viewing Platform (H) or Lodge/Rec. (G) feels like a minor section that you'd install in all, or at least a small rec. or platform section in all, buildings/outposts in every island

As it seems like, at least from the buildings in Gateway, some buildings do have small sections for rest.
It would certainly be a bit strange or a bit weird not to include close by resting stations, especially within a job that could be very dangerous. So having the ability to rest up close to the site that you're working at would make sense

[lethal moat]

You make an excellent point, it could very well just be the perimeter base

Hadn’t really considered the implications of the Viewing platform

[acoustic osprey]

But I could still definitely be very wrong

This is all just after it being a year since that was posted. And now looking back at it again I've come to see that there are some areas in which we could be wrong or that we could be wrong

I don't mean to say that you are wrong. Because who knows heck could just be another island

[lethal moat]

[acoustic osprey]

With its own GUTS system

Don't you love The isle lore

[lethal moat]

[acoustic osprey]

Hopefully we ll see another document

But dondi did say that it is a bit hard to do anyways

But hey something may exist soon who knows

[lethal moat]

Christmas lore drop, I beg

[acoustic osprey]

Or maybe something in game

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/kiwi-gif-22614141

[lethal moat]

Anyway time for work, keep doing god’s work Mr Lightclaw

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-donald-kimball-godspeed-gif-14910616

[lethal moat]

[icy onyx]

does anyone know as to why no servers poping up

[patent ginkgo]

Ask in #isle-discussion

[true helm]

is this game more cpu or gpu

[acoustic osprey]

wrong channel
but typically it's quite balanced

[balmy portal]

why all server are not working?

[balmy portal]

i u mean the game need more gpu or cpu then its need more gpu than cpu

[acoustic osprey]

wrong channel, better to ask in #isle-discussion

[steel summit]

https://tenor.com/view/demonsera-haploid-lore-gif-23224021

[sour rivet]

Average Lore enjoyer !

[fallow harbor]

turkiye refernace?

[sour rivet]

Yogurt very güzel

[lethal moat]

I got excited and thought people were interested in the lore for a second

[acoustic osprey]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/753743913356886179/1186773421984583720/lYoJ_p.gif?ex=659477e0&is=658202e0&hm=ee19566b710638e03ace03a26409972c0307af38b448ede60e8a0a2cdbc5017a&

I will comment here, though, what I have put on Vulnona about the "supposed" H4

Originally, I told Islemaps that this area WAS H4.
Due to the lack of information provided by Devs, I have been researching by using the Augustus video and going in-game AND also trying to make a coordinate system of the map (K15, I12, etc).

I have come to the conclusion that this place is LIKELY* not H4.
Aka. GW-H4

However, I humbly await more information for confirmation.

It is, more so, likely to be GW-E10 (or potentially D10).
HOWEVER, there is a chance of it being H10* (note the asterisk). But not, almost certainly, H4

I have made a grid system, using the data we have from K15, I12, Jungle I sect. & Highlands J Sect. as a basis of X and Y coords.
Which makes "Site-H4" turn out to be more so on the "E" y-axis.
However, (the * part), is that the "sects." go by biomes- but the numbers, the X-Axis, stays the same.

Making "Site-H4" still as "10" but potentially still as "H" or any letter close to I, J, K,

this is the first map
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1145482154109849701/1185017392183640104/Screen_Shot_2023-12-15_at_11.35.50_am.png?ex=65974ef2&is=6584d9f2&hm=e38806293023c4b67f60c0478228f9a9575c54dbf5d7c4cab90ef2130365cf5b&

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1145482154109849701/1185024109155987586/Screen_Shot_2023-12-15_at_12.02.36_pm.png?ex=65975534&is=6584e034&hm=523ff0e2d5e25cae935b38036d5417426bf435169fd4ae1c0a3b50abb5f479d6&
2nd

both are quite raw but show what need to be shown

I still could very much wish and hope for a better understanding of the actual grid system(s) ||knowing that I have to put a plural here is a killer|| that AE and, especially, within Gateway, that are used

[lethal moat]

I’m just imagining some poor soul strolling down to lore theories for the first time and seeing nothing but numbers and letters

[lethal moat]

Getting a full grid map of gateway would be sick, maybe in another report like ERRANT 291

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/ratatouille-gif-21705697

[acoustic osprey]

HONESTLY

something like a glance sheet-style map OR blue-edgy UI (from the trello + Augustus)-style map proper Apollo Engineering Gateway map would be INSANE

[lethal moat]

Maybe a picture of the tracking chip system

[acoustic osprey]

mmmm

Like anything would be cool
not really the exact same (or similar) artstyle of the Jurassic Park image

but something akin to it in nature

would be great.
I wouldn't mind not seeing the chip tracking system if we can get a proper view of the in-lore way Gateway was graphed

not a simple and basic, but unrealistic, overhead in-game shot from a spec cam

[lethal moat]

I feel like it would be an incredibly valuable resource for gen 2

[acoustic osprey]

but an actual artistic and fitting rendition of Gateway itself

[acoustic osprey]

oh, well, yeah. I suppose.

I can just see it more being a way to increase Dino Hunting

"this is someone's location, have fun"

i know this is not, nor ever, the intention.
But a tracking chip system just reminds me of Trapping systems

fun on paper, and on singleplayer scenarios, but can truly be painful and quite OP for a singular party. And only a singular party

usually for the worse

you could always do a fortnite and have a rough bounty system
"They are roughly in this area"

basically mimicking scent, but with a bit more extra steps

which is more than fine.
but it's still a bit 50/50

[lethal moat]

You know that terminal thing inside the Perimiter office complex? I can see it being mounted, so the Dino can move between location and travel to said location

[acoustic osprey]

it's a system that indirectly tells people to go and kill

[acoustic osprey]

oh the big black one in the Server room?

[lethal moat]

Yep

[acoustic osprey]

honestly it reminds me of a less advanced and more clunky version of a Blackmagic colour grading and editing station
Lol

but, no, yeah I can see it being related to or is the system that tracks

I still wouldn't have it accurately pin point a players location though

[lethal moat]

If it’s mounted, I can see it being used more defensively, like: hey a carno is getting to close to the base, here’s three bullets, go scare it off

[acoustic osprey]

especially in this AFK day and age

[lethal moat]

[acoustic osprey]

I'd certainly have it where
less "Carno is at xx,yy"
and more "Carno is in location radius, direction North approx. 0 degrees"

keep players on their toes

[lethal moat]

Or margin of error: 2 coordinates latitude, 3 coordinates longitude

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/thelamacake-jon-snow-game-of-thrones-aegon-targaryen-gif-8300648748117428755

anything that makes me feel like i'm on the Wall in the Nightswatch

and waiting for Carno to arrive any minute now
because it's close

but, how far or exactly close? Who knows

[lethal moat]

Raise bayonets

[acoustic osprey]

I'd prefer systems in-game that still make us, Gen2s, have to guess and hope. Horror over ease

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/good-luck-britain-help-said-britain-gif-20754440

[lethal moat]

Something to ease the struggle, but not eliminate it, because (I really hope) Gen 2 is extremely difficult but very rewarding

[acoustic osprey]

i've been getting into a lot more Napoleonic warfare recently.
WISH we had more movies and games for such

such a weird and very "chess-coordinated"-type warfare

in contrast to fast and wacky modern warefare

fast, crazy, hectic. Not for me most the time

[meager junco]

I mean when the guns take a minute to reload, the battle will definitely be slower

[acoustic osprey]

but I know Gen2s will be hectic.
There's a better joy from horrorfilled insanity

[maiden sundial]

Crazy, fast, hectic. And at the same time calculated, coordinated, and extremely efficient

[acoustic osprey]

of course

[lethal moat]

Are Gen 2s able to survive a single bite from a dilo?

[meager junco]

Yes

But just 1

[maiden sundial]

Maybe, dunno about the venom tho

[meager junco]

Second kills

[acoustic osprey]

and not for me.
Movies don't do it justice, neither games nor any general entertainment media
Anything beyond the 40s is not for me with warfare content

[lethal moat]

Imagine being evacuated after a dilo attack, and you’re sitting in the barracks, then you hear a laugh from outside and now there’s one sitting on your mate’s bed

[acoustic osprey]

Oh yeah, they definitely need to keep to this.
In which makes me hope they remove 3rd person

[maiden sundial]

I believe only gen2 and MAYBE (hopefully) gen 1 will have FP

[acoustic osprey]

i certainly want to see more of what Gen1s will do and feel like

i know it's supposed to be, at least, less horror-based than Gen2s

[lethal moat]

I’m hoping Gen 1 is first person, would make survival a bit more stressful

[acoustic osprey]

more so, you're doing the horror

[meager junco]

i always imagine the telltale jp game with troodons, but instead, i replace them with the isle dilos

[acoustic osprey]

but if Gen1s, in-lore, have been on the island(s) for quite some time

I can very much imagine them being 3rd person.

just depends on how the devs want them to work

i know in Legacy, at least, they were almost always in 3rd person

[maiden sundial]

My idea for them being able to switch inbetween

[acoustic osprey]

2nd person!!

[lethal moat]

I feel like crafting would be less immersive in third person

[maiden sundial]

If you wanna look around you can switch to third and look around, but if you wanna SEE the thing your killing up close and personal. You can go first person.

It works well for 1v1 too

[acoustic osprey]

limited 3rd person

can't look around corners

[maiden sundial]

The exception being the eyeless. Which I hope with echolocation it kinda works like an X-ray

[lethal moat]

The Batman echolocation thingy

[acoustic osprey]

I do hope they can actually see.
And not completely blind

More so using sound to light up their world

[maiden sundial]

Yes

[lethal moat]

Constant state of excellent nv

[acoustic osprey]

a fusion on echolocation and heat signatures
you're not seeing heat
but sound creates a heat (sound) signature profile

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-elmos-fire-elmo-fire-fire-yas-gif-16440807891622620439

[acoustic osprey]

the louder and, theoretically, more closer things are become more detailed and more brighter
I wouldn't dare say blindingly bright

[lethal moat]

I would honestly rather have a monofocal for thermal vision rather than bifocals because completely turning vision to thermal seems like a bad idea. It smudges stuff

And the fast that you wouldn’t be able to see vegetation movement because of the lack of depth perception

[maiden sundial]

If they were to to for a blind thing, I'd hope they use something like the dilo fog

But in that they can see perfectly

Day or night

But using echolocation they get rid of the fog in an area of like 100 feet.

But sounds (like rushing water or roars) are highlighted blue outside of the fog

[lethal moat]

Make a clicking noise for temporary extended vision.

[maiden sundial]

Mhm, but they actively can see sounds (stomps highlight the animal in blue)

[lethal moat]

Having certain tissos have a Deadly Nadder (HTTYD) tail attack would be interesting, give a strain a sort of ranged ability

[jolly mantle]

Man what's going on? Game launches on a black screen and then closes.

[lethal moat]

Wrong chat, looks like you crashed

[jolly mantle]

Oops yeah wrong chat

[acoustic osprey]

I'd imagine less smoke fog
and more harsher and thick

not airy

you better have a good theory moonaloo

[lethal moat]

They’ve been cooking for awhile god damn

[teal zenith]

OK so I have this borderline insane and dumb but potentaily geinius theorie, So this could be horible and also be contradicted very easily but bear with me. Ok so y'know how ya press tab and u get a hole report on ur dino right like its health, age, and location so what if we the PLAYERs are just a bunch of rich people that are trying to get more money by "owning" a dino and basicaly using said dino to gamble like the older the dino gets the more valuble and ofc the stronger the dino the more value like a buyin a rex is a huge gamble as its first off expencive to even aquire and then difficult to grow and gain value but that mf when grown will be worth some big $$$. in the same sence that like a herrara or omni is overal low risk as in low cost entrie but low reward as the dino is not as difficult or powerfull as well an apex for compairison but the small dino has a mutch hirer chance of growing to its full potential. this could also play into humans as certain millionair is getin there dinos masacured by some other millionairs dino, so inturn the millionair places a hit on said dino sending in merks but this is also against the rulse so the merks gotta be discreat about it and can only kill said dino with the hit other wise big bad things happen to both the millionair that placed the hit and the merks of course.

this part is some how a lil more bad shxt crazy but the millionairs control the dinos and stuff by sending simple comands to a device in the dino that releases cemicals that will provide the desired action this also give room for rouge dinos. so many possiblitys on this dumb ahh theory i cant get out of my head

so should i be let near the stove every again

[acoustic osprey]

for a second there I thought you were going to talk about EIPs without talking about EIPs

[lethal moat]

It’s an unconfirmed theory that’s parallel to EIPs, which are from legacy but haven’t been confirmed for Evrima yet, I personally don’t like it, but it is totally possible

You cooked up a decent theory, it just follows the side of the story I don’t like

[teal zenith]

wuts a EIP

[acoustic osprey]

it's less about EIPs, I say

[lethal moat]

You want an invite to the lore server?

[lethal moat]

It’s similar

[acoustic osprey]

this is more like bot fighting

but with real dinos
less about the humans being the dinos

[lethal moat]

You explain EIPs mister Lightclaw since I despise them

[teal zenith]

prety mutch dino casino AE is a gambling company now no one can change my mind

[lethal moat]

The two unconfirmed theories I hate for this game: EIPs, and active camo rugops

[teal zenith]

lol

[lethal moat]

It started off as a agriculture company that now dabbles in medicine, we don’t know anything in between, but we do know that the dinosaurs are secret from the public

That’s a lie, we know about the giant crustaceans between

[teal zenith]

im mean rich ppl got ties in tight places yk

[lethal moat]

True

But the dinosaurs are described as “unfortunate but necessary” so I doubt it’s just for dino fight club

[teal zenith]

yeah shiit its fun ass theory tho like imagin bezos cussin out mr zuk cus homies dino got got

[lethal moat]

I do like the way you think differently though, you want an invite to the lore server?

[acoustic osprey]

Embryo Intelligence Profile

Aka. Human conscious inside a dinosaur

Where, in legacy lore (no longer canon), your "Profile" (EIP) was actually you. Your profile on steam.

you were the dinosaur. You the player.

[lethal moat]

Sounds like a fun video series concept to make

[teal zenith]

hell ya

[acoustic osprey]

to be fair, it's relatively cliche in this day and age.
But would be very interesting if done well

[lethal moat]

It’s totally not skuffed and 100% safe for the sound of mind

[lethal moat]

I no likey

[teal zenith]

fair tho

[lethal moat]

Check DMs

Dondi’s going to swoop in and confirm EIPs at the last second before break just to spite me

Would lead to a ton of new theories though

[acoustic osprey]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/753743913356886179/1186773421984583720/lYoJ_p.gif?ex=659477e0&is=658202e0&hm=ee19566b710638e03ace03a26409972c0307af38b448ede60e8a0a2cdbc5017a&

from the sounds of it, seems like EIPs are truly no longer though

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/dancingscp-scp999-meme-gif-22819930

[acoustic osprey]

at least.
We think it seems that way

who knows, maybe Dondi is only "showing 90%"

[lethal moat]

The lore will go off the deep end one day and then the lore server will actually end up being productive

[acoustic osprey]

I doubt we'll see anything though.
Xmas is coming up and I presume dev's holidays have started

so I don't see Dondi doing anything.

but, I can see the Diablo video coming shortly after they get back though

[lethal moat]

Gonna be a great time

[acoustic osprey]

oh yeah, hopefully we can get some sort of confirmation on H4

maybe.
maybe

[low scarab]

for I second I thought you knew whats going on :l

[acoustic osprey]

i don't think anyone can

too dangerous

[low scarab]

I love how you send an invite before they even know whats going on

[acoustic osprey]

lol

https://tenor.com/view/pirates-of-the-caribbean-davy-gif-27098006

[lethal moat]

Exactly

[low scarab]

Im holding myself back from writing a 50 page essay on lore and just force feeding it into that persons skull

[lethal moat]

YOLO

[sour rivet]

Do it

Destroy lives and minds

[lethal moat]

Hive mind

[sour rivet]

No

Never

[flat jasper]

please oh please let there be more ai

[lethal moat]

Wrong chat

[flat jasper]

OH DAMN i thought i was in isle discussion

[acoustic osprey]

a lot of peeps have recently

lol

[low scarab]

I still have hopes for a christmas lore drop

[lethal moat]

My dream Christmas gift, even above stuff to upgrade my pc

[low scarab]

can santas elves craft isle lore?

[acoustic osprey]

illegal

[dapper cedar]

The dinosaurs are actually just humans pretending to be dinosaurs cuz of ||kink||

[acoustic osprey]

EIPs reference

[dapper cedar]

Wha

What is an EIPS

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/really-again-game-of-thrones-ned-stark-weary-broken-gif-14687533

Embryo Intelligence Profile

Aka. Human conscious inside a dinosaur

Where, in legacy lore (no longer canon), your "Profile" (EIP) was actually you. Your profile on steam.
you were the dinosaur. You the player.

[dapper cedar]

What

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[dapper cedar]

Bro just has that copied on clipboard

[acoustic osprey]

it was roughly from 2 hours ago

[dapper cedar]

I am sorry I do not know a lot of lore I only started playing from 5 month ago

[acoustic osprey]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/979068369724645506/1176256833690816683/IWPiXWTC.gif?ex=656e358a&is=655bc08a&hm=bf63694a4f49f4036a4648121c29335a21d7f17f0cf8676c8d0a4598fb7bb4d2&

it's ok, I forgive you.

[dapper cedar]

Is it ok to put Gogol doc link here

For lore

[acoustic osprey]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit this?

[dapper cedar]

You can put link 😄

I want put link possible in future

[acoustic osprey]

i see

[lethal moat]

Run while you still can, don’t make our mistake

[dapper cedar]

Why hasn't anyone been talking in chat 😭

[lethal moat]

We mostly bicker in the lore server, and save any serious conversation or any overflow lore stuff here

[dapper cedar]

Awh 😦

[lethal moat]

You want into the lore server?

[dapper cedar]

There is more?

[lethal moat]

You read the lore documents yet?

[dapper cedar]

He went to Tartarus

[lethal moat]

Yep

The lore server is full of crazies though, just watch out

[dapper cedar]

👁️👄👁️

[lethal moat]

There are things casual isle players shouldn’t see

[dapper cedar]

[dapper cedar]

You can put anything in here, right? Not just thing s based on already implemented lore?

[lethal moat]

This place is for things we know and things people think will happen, if you say something that’s already been disproven or confirmed, someone will let you know. 🙃

[dapper cedar]

Tasty

[dapper cedar]

Æ is actually official government

[lethal moat]

Eh

[dapper cedar]

Bros already here

[lethal moat]

It’s an international company, that is most likely capable of hiding things from governments, and likely functions as a government on it’s own properties, like the islands

[dapper cedar]

😮

Hiding things

[lethal moat]

Yep, it’s a show 90% and nobody needs to know about the other 10% situation

[main lion]

I have read through the doc
goddamn

[low scarab]

what did u think

[main lion]

Im very interested to know more

[low scarab]

somebody hit em with the..

[steel summit]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/979068369724645506/1176256833690816683/IWPiXWTC.gif?ex=656e358a&is=655bc08a&hm=bf63694a4f49f4036a4648121c29335a21d7f17f0cf8676c8d0a4598fb7bb4d2&

[low scarab]

LORE SERVER INV

[low scarab]

@lethal moat

spill your questions here we answer

also listen to the isle lore podcast on spotifu

[lethal moat]

Whomst hast summoned the ancient one

[low scarab]

a fellow has fallen victim to lore addiction

[main lion]

im a sucker for lore

[lethal moat]

You poor soul, I’ll send an invite

[steel summit]

a terminal illness i see, there is no cure

[low scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-good-dory-shark-gif-14157313

[low scarab]

ARE YOU READYYY

[low scarab]

https://discord.gg/SSNESHHd

[iron anchor]

damn 100 members

[lethal moat]

We got a good amount going

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/sean-bean-ned-stark-game-of-thrones-got-praying-gif-17735642

[pale marsh]

LORE

[acoustic osprey]

Only The Isle

[pale marsh]

ISLE LORE

[lethal moat]

The lore must flow

[pale marsh]

Nueros should be able to manipulate technology and perhaps even a powerful enough one can even control to some degree

Thanks for coming to my TED talk

I want my echidna is actually in control of the replicator ai head canon
I need it

[acoustic osprey]

Seeing as Echidna can do the siren funny

Neuros, to some extent, should be able to play around with electromagnetic radiation

[pale marsh]

Itd also serve to explain why the replicator cares about the tribals

[meager junco]

I still find the “neuro goo”? If I’m saying it right. Really interesting

[acoustic osprey]

NEURO GOO!!

[pale marsh]

Enlighten me on the nerd goo?

[meager junco]

https://tenor.com/view/slime-goo-gif-20004555

Idk much about it, Isaac can explain he told me

[pale marsh]

Brain slop even

[acoustic osprey]

It was mostly just this

ANY PERSONNEL EXPOSED TO DIRECT CONTACT WITH ANY TYPE-N BIO-MATERIALS ARE TO BE CONSIDERED EXPENDABLE AND EXPUNGED ALONG WITH ANY BIOLOGICAL CONTAMINANTS FROM CODE ECHIDNA

So I coined it as Neuro-Goo

type n bio materials... ?
Yeah I sure hope it does

[pale marsh]

OH

[acoustic osprey]

Neuro-Goo 💅

[meager junco]

It’s coooool

[pale marsh]

Now I envision echidna mucusy like a frog

[meager junco]

And the goo was sort of radioactive iirc, meaning just being near it was hazardous

So old echidna was a threat just to be around even if she didn’t see you yet

[pale marsh]

Hmm, would this imply echidma is reactive itself
Or expends radioactive waste?

[lethal moat]

Iris, you on the Christmas lore drop prayer list?

[pale marsh]

Idk what that could imply

[meager junco]

I favour second

[pale marsh]

Never heard of that so I'd say I'm not

[lethal moat]

We’re all praying for a Christmas lore drop

[meager junco]

Dibble video is our best hope tbh

Hoping we get Dave the dibble

[lethal moat]

Cloning vat showcase

[acoustic osprey]

it'll be after their holdiays!! 😠

[meager junco]

That be-BEN

[lethal moat]

Ping me if a new conversation comes up, I’m going back to watching a podcast

[pale marsh]

Benjamin

[lethal moat]

We need to get @sage fox to put a bowler hat, mustache, and Monocle on Ben

[pale marsh]

God pls

[sage fox]

I'll see what I can do, send me ben

[lethal moat]

Excellent, thank you Batcat

[sage fox]

proper gentleman

[patent ginkgo]

Sir Ben III

[pale marsh]

Oil tycoon right there

[lethal moat]

It’s becoming a lore server emoji, I do appreciate it

[acoustic osprey]

Forgot her tea and her own train line

[lethal moat]

Lore podcast tea party

[acoustic osprey]

in which transports tons of coal from midwest Mines back into NYC

[sage fox]

what's it called

[lethal moat]

Benjamin

[sage fox]

[lethal moat]

YIS

[lethal moat]

I wonder if the isle will journey into the Uncanny Valley with Gen 1, I think it would make sense, seeing as they are almost/semi-human

[dapper cedar]

El WHAT

[dapper cedar]

Maybe it can look like those things from the forest 😄

[lethal moat]

We made a podcast, only 2 episodes, but more are definitely planned

[dapper cedar]

🦖🦖🦖

[dapper cedar]

Wowee what's it called?

[lethal moat]

Maybe, we’ve only seen 2 visual concepts so far

[dapper cedar]

I think it should definitely have long limbs..

[lethal moat]

https://open.spotify.com/show/4nkw9nPzbZDfhb0k4LL8F3?si=ssfJUPHpQhSRMGPlXhvJOQ

[dapper cedar]

Gyaaaaattt

Shadow and the replicator

[lethal moat]

Here’s one, the other one doesn’t have eyes, but it isn’t the eyeless

[dapper cedar]

Who tf is augustus

[lethal moat]

First Herrera to climb

[dapper cedar]

Create more herrerasaurus :0

Why so specifically herrera

[lethal moat]

@meager junco you have a fan

[dapper cedar]

It's so long it's like a big podcast

Hour is good for a podcast, I would have expected like 20 mins

"it makes the dinosaur from previous templates" isn't it just a security camera though lmao

[lethal moat]

We go in depth, and there is a lot of stuff to talk about

[dapper cedar]

Who confirms these theories?

[lethal moat]

Dondi

[dapper cedar]

Æ

I thought replicator is a camera

[meager junco]

I’m famous

[lethal moat]

That’s the only motif of the actual ai/machine that we’ve seen so far

[dapper cedar]

Gaytt

[lethal moat]

You want an invite to the lore server?

[dapper cedar]

"their face is hard to describe" lmaooo 😭

[dapper cedar]

Sure 😃

[dapper cedar]

Maybe it's ugly

Bro the replicator is a female????

[meager junco]

I use her a lot but it’s an AI

[lethal moat]

What were we talking about at the time?

[dapper cedar]

Ai are smart

[dapper cedar]

Gen 1

Æ is cool

You guys don't know a lot about the 'why'

[lethal moat]

Dondi please if you see this I beg

[dapper cedar]

Bruh reference a meme

You guys reference the copy homework meme 😨

[lethal moat]

It’s the best way to describe what we think we know at the moment

[meager junco]

If we knew we wouldn’t be here rn

[dapper cedar]

I want to make my own little theory document like what you make

Cuz it cool 😎😎😎

[lethal moat]

Go for it, also, check DMs

[dapper cedar]

But will be mostly made up cuz I'm a stupid

Can you not send me message?

My settings I guess

[lethal moat]

Went through on my end

[dapper cedar]

Oh wait

I'm dumb I thought friends list is at server list I'm new to this new discord update

[lethal moat]

Yeah, new discord wack

[dapper cedar]

Server very fun wants to make me want to eat people 😁

[dapper cedar]

The isle is a one piece reference

There are dinosaurs in one piece

And also dinosaurs in JoJo adventure

So the isle is a jojo reference too

https://tenor.com/view/rudolph-haha-hehe-laughing-giggling-gif-19545346

[dapper cedar]

Bazinga! (That means it's a joke)

[dapper cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/young-sheldon-sheldon-smile-gif-23612189

[dapper cedar]

What is an ekidna and what is a colluseus

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/summer-child-my-sweet-summer-child-old-nan-game-of-thrones-gif-5580217

[lethal moat]

I thought that said Yummers and I was going to question it’s existence

[lethal moat]

Humanoid strains, colossus is type h, echidna is type n

[signal pivot]

Is tisso still canon

[lethal moat]

Yep

[signal pivot]

Oks cool I thought I heard someone say it was decanonized once

[lethal moat]

Nope

[low scarab]

it could have changed and deviated a lot from what we originally thought a tisso was but still canon

[signal pivot]

Sounds good

[low scarab]

you know what would be epic

a video on Errant-291

"291-A for videolog"

[lethal moat]

Security footage of whatever was walking around

[low scarab]

?

[lethal moat]

Getting a video of the Errant-291 incident, since I’m not 100% convinced that whatever was walking around was human

[low scarab]

interesting

but yea it would be epic I hope don wasnt joking when he said he has some stuff in store for us

[lethal moat]

Merry Christmas fellow lore bois and whoever else happens to be reading this. :3

[acoustic osprey]

It might exist

Now or later

[low scarab]

I wanna watch it

I want to hear the "voices in the jungle"

[lethal moat]

Relatable

[dapper cedar]

Joe pie is a John cake cousin

[acoustic osprey]

291-A would just be him wandering in D-Section

I'd certainly want 291-E
An Autoposy report 😊

[patent ginkgo]

Lore people when they get footage of some guy walking in a building:

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man2-peter-parker-walking-out-slow-motion-slow-motion-walk-gif-23544881

[low scarab]

gore is something we are lacking in so Im down

[low scarab]

hey we are grateful for whatever don feeds us

beggars cant be choosers yk

[patent ginkgo]

Exactly

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[patent ginkgo]

Hopefully we get a nice Christmas lore drop tomorrow

Though I doubt it

[low scarab]

we stay hopeful

[acoustic osprey]

keep dreaming!

[low scarab]

isaac dont act like youre not dreaming abt the same thing

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/chris-mclean-total-drama-total-drama-island-chris-chris-total-drama-gif-2734772731205658948

[patent ginkgo]

Isaac breathes lore

[lethal moat]

He is the teacher

[low scarab]

he raised me

well more so

started a lifelong addiction of thirsting for lore

[patent ginkgo]

Facts

[acoustic osprey]

less a teacher, I'd say, more like Diogenes.

if anything, Apollo Engineering should be renamed Dionysus Engineering
seeing how crazy we all are

[lethal moat]

Same

[lethal moat]

Hush

[low scarab]

We are all perfectly sane Isaac

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/bacchus-dionysus-simpsons-gif-14976482

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-stewie-griffin-gone-crazy-insane-letter-l-gif-17135412

Isaac spreads the lore infection, I make an attempt to collect it

[low scarab]

one day I will surpass isaac in knowledge

[acoustic osprey]

nuh uh!!!

[acoustic osprey]

peace and love 😊

[lethal moat]

Attempt being a generous term

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/chris-mclean-total-drama-total-drama-island-chris-chris-total-drama-gif-2734772731205658948

[low scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/shoebill-bird-rain-beautiful-gif-18429868

[swift echo]

Echidna

[lethal moat]

Neuro, you need sleep

[dapper cedar]

Imagine

Having theories

[dapper cedar]

Siren?

Super strong dinosaur break into cement 💪💪💪

[hexed flax]

It sounds like the fire siren our town hall has when somewhere in the city a fire breaks out

[dapper cedar]

Maybe there is fire in isle

[frail orbit]

Hpyos?

[lethal moat]

Or something else large is our assumption

[low scarab]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/979068369724645506/1157119905649401856/uPQorVRR.gif?ex=65177363&is=651621e3&hm=aa99e6757083381c801ba4b0d6c146d0832a6ba9446de564cb298153ea60d940&

[frail orbit]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-chad-gif-18386674

[pale marsh]

Real lore question right here
Do gen1 eat ham or turkey for crimus

[lethal moat]

They eat John Cake

[sour rivet]

I pray for the day Dondo declares the entire lore as a fever dream or even better states that everything we know is now uncannon

That way we’ll all have spent our time on nothing

[meager junco]

https://tenor.com/view/die-gif-19509457

[low scarab]

Kill this man

[sour rivet]

Nuh uh

[patent ginkgo]

Nih, more like… flea!

[ocean fable]

it sounds like an animal

[dapper cedar]

Sounds like a siren

It's not any of the playables or ai

[lethal moat]

Still could be an ambience, we had a situation similar to this a month or two ago where it ended up being ambience

[patent ginkgo]

The clacks…

[ocean fable]

i mean it is part of the ambience, i've heard it several times. i thought it sounded like a siren as well but i can see it being some kind of animal

[meager junco]

Really far out idea on what it could be-what if it’s something that isn’t on the island, but under it🤷🏻‍♂️

[lethal moat]

I think it’s a distant animal personally

[pure lodge]

Probably like some kind of bird or dinosaur

[dapper cedar]

It had a location source though

[lethal moat]

How do you know? It’s been heard in multiple different areas, and might not be from the same source

[low scarab]

No lore

[lethal moat]

I stole it

[low scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/my-true-reaction-cat-funny-gif-26404518

[dapper cedar]

Because in game it came from a location

[lethal moat]

Triangulate the location and get back to me

[dapper cedar]

What is triangulate

[lethal moat]

Find where the noise came from

[dapper cedar]

Ok

[patent ginkgo]

If you have two points in space and an angle from each of those points to the point of interest, you can find where the point of interest is relatively to the two points

[lofty flicker]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1117495279340486747/1179598578050678856/you_play.gif?ex=657a5dc8&is=6567e8c8&hm=96eae99e09372b006d54039e84e37a7559379ef9204f870ae7ccedbd0563ed55&

[dapper cedar]

Theory: the sky is a hologram and the weather's are fake

[lethal moat]

It’s probably an actual island

[iron anchor]

an actual island, made by real aliens

[dapper cedar]

I mean the aliens made the pyramids so it's realistic

[dapper cedar]

👁️👄👁️

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/game-of-thrones-ned-stark-gif-1768200873290333872

[dapper cedar]

Theories Lore

[low scarab]

Guys next don stream everyone just flood his stream and ask when lore

its a joke

[lethal moat]

January 4th maybe, but leave him alone until the break is over

[low scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/wukomet-bruce-bruce-benton-theanimeclub-gif-24878706

[onyx ingot]

guys mabye they left spiro because of how bad the ecosystem was and it was all plains and mabye gateway is their dream island ot be on

[meager junco]

If by ecosystem you mean performance and stability then yes

[lethal moat]

Spiro is scrapped from the lore, your assumption is correct

[onyx ingot]

nice

[signal pivot]

No more spiro 🦀

[fallow harbor]

*14th

[lethal moat]

Potato tomato

[fallow harbor]

@lethal moat would u want to do a fan made trail cam video with me?

[lethal moat]

I’d love to, but I’m away from my PC at the moment, I’d check with the lore server next

[fallow harbor]

okay 👍

[silk jungle]

Does anyone have a theory about the paddocks. About their maintence, how the animals lived there and how were they build

[fallow harbor]

hypers

concreate

[acoustic osprey]

(i'd join but I'm busy today)

[fallow harbor]

its fine, tbh it didnt turn out to good anyway 😭

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/got-game-of-thrones-ned-eddard-stark-gif-8425074

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/rip-juice-cry-cat-kitten-tears-gif-15751834

[lethal moat]

Depends, there’s lots of paddocks and lots of animals

[silk jungle]

Ngl i care about the cerato the most

[lethal moat]

That one’s not particularly interesting as far as we know, probably the same as most medium sized things, hyper gates, normal fences, medium sized cage, domes, etc.

[silk jungle]

Yeah you are right but what about the herrerasaurus bc se can climb and idk if the fences were like in Jurassic Park

Electrical i mean

[lethal moat]

Probably not the large ones, possibly the smaller ones, but the Herrera wasn’t always able to climb, and we don’t know exactly how the sectors work or how they were attempting to control (if at all) the ecosystem, so Herrera might have just been something that did its own thing, even if the small fences aren’t electrocuted

[silk jungle]

Ok thank you

[fallow harbor]

we tried, it did not go well 😭

[sweet vessel]

The screen tearing

[iron anchor]

Lol that's not that bad, a bit more polishing and getting rid of the lighting ghosts would make it pretty good

[fallow harbor]

how do i fix the lighting ghosts?

[fallow harbor]

how do i fix the screen tearing?

[topaz orbit]

Hey! Can I use this materials for my article about The Isle? Writing for ru/ukr audience

[ionic sable]

Sir.

This is Isle Lore Theories.

[strange shell]

Become a UE5 shader artist, get in the development team and fix the game

[fallow harbor]

bruh

[lethal moat]

If you cite sources sure

[topaz orbit]

Ofcourse! ty!

[lethal moat]

Same vibes as “I just work here”

[iron anchor]

try disabling lumen for something else

or it might be a dlss artifact but i don’t remember if the isle has that in

[patent ginkgo]

@valid seal check the pinned docs in here, rumple’s is a good current lore summary

[valid seal]

Nice thanks! Will do 🙂

[acoustic osprey]

just remember, most (if not all) content in that doc are all speculation from what we've been told from Dondi
so things may be different once they're officially in-game

[lethal moat]

I’d say less speculation and more things are subject to change, because we’ve been trying to follow most of it with as little bias as we can, but things could be subject to change, or we might have misinterpreted confusing information (curse you Dondi and your indirect answers that give more questions the second we ask a question)

[topaz orbit]

Yeah, I understand. ty

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/jack-sparrow-salute-hat-off-condolences-jack-sparrow-hat-off-gif-18163964

[acoustic osprey]

I'm still on the side of speculation, for the most part.
Not to doubt Don, but lore has changed and moved around many times over the past 5+ years now

So to 100% believe the text of Don, like anything not in-game, can lead to disappointments

it's not true speculation
As in: Oh, it's a theory!

but more so, everything is dubious till in-game

[lethal moat]

Right

[acoustic osprey]

left

[lethal moat]

-.-

[iron anchor]

Lol

[low scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-sad-truth-thats-the-painful-truth-thats-the-reality-of-it-thats-the-sad-reality-michael-douglas-gif-15605622

[low scarab]

What are these they sound cool

https://on.soundcloud.com/Czr3A

[low scarab]

Are they even for the isle?

[lethal moat]

I don’t think so, but it’s interesting still

[lethal moat]

@fallow harbor I saw the thing and I like it :3

[fallow harbor]

:3

ill put it back then

[acoustic osprey]

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But, it's really quite interesting
Something I could see with the Replicator in the future

[lethal moat]

Gen 1 gen 2 situation? Could be another interesting aspect to it, especially since we know the gen 1 know where they came from, but do they worship out of gratitude or fear?

[pale marsh]

I knew it was gonna be rokos basilisk before I even clicked the link

[lethal moat]

My favorite part about this theory is that it can fit overtop of my theory about AE telling the replicator to do something and then not understanding

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[acoustic osprey]

I mean, it doesn't even need to be about the replicator

[lethal moat]

Just about AE in general?

[acoustic osprey]

Anything about this theory can apply to anything big in the world of the isle

Just like apollo engineering

Especially with internal affairs it could be very interesting to see the future of this

[lethal moat]

Neuros?

[acoustic osprey]

I suppose it relates to my ltm theory, not really theory. But aspect that I really like to see

[acoustic osprey]

I wouldn't really call them really that big, I'd more say, just like the replicator and apollo engineering are the two biggest things at least from what we know

[lethal moat]

I feel this can apply to pretty much any change of power, it’s a fact of life/society

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah that's pretty much it

And even then this Instagram real doesn't really matter. Because it can really relate to anything even some Greek mythology

For example, Titanomacy

In which I actually really like to see something like this happening in game

But yeah, just a train of thought, you know?

Who knows what Dondi wants

[lethal moat]

Oh yeah, it’s all interesting to think about

Something else I’d like to bring up since you reminded me with the titanomancy

[acoustic osprey]

Quite certainly something to think about while we wait for something to happen during the holidays

[lethal moat]

The way Dondi said person or persons who are in charge of AE was dealt a poor hand in life makes me think that he said “or persons” as an afterthought since it was a little rushed, so I’m choosing to think that it is a singular CEO after a council of people were in charge, fall of the powerful to give it to the new generation of rulers, something along those lines

[acoustic osprey]

Was it specifically about the person who works with AI?

I'm on phone now so I can't see the message itself, do you have the link?

This was from the stream a few weeks ago, wasn't it?

[lethal moat]

The person in charge, it was on stream, same one with the giant crustaceans, he said that it was “someone or someones who was dealt a (poopy) hand and now has the power to do something about it”

[acoustic osprey]

But I don't remember it talking about AI though

[lethal moat]

Wasn’t about ai, was about if the person (or people) in charge of AE

[acoustic osprey]

Although from the sounds of this quotes, It sounds more like a rag to riches

[acoustic osprey]

Oh OK, typo then?

[lethal moat]

That was my immediate assumption as well

[lethal moat]

Yep

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah, it will be really interesting as if they can have a call back to Phoenix International from his rag story and became rich through making/several promotions in apollo engineering

Although that's more of a stupid theory and something a bit goofy

Something that will never happen. Haha

But I can imagine something along those lines still

[lethal moat]

Now I’m curious about what made the council from before not be in charge anymore, because we know it was one then the other in terms of AE ownership/rulership

[acoustic osprey]

I wouldn't imagine him being in the rags position originally in apollo engineering though

[lethal moat]

My only theory is either a ton of old people all dying because they’re old, or they were on gateway when it was abandoned

[acoustic osprey]

That's assuming that there was a council are not just a board team

Even then, the original quote doesn't really refer back to anything like that.

[lethal moat]

No clue how he got there, but I agree

[lethal moat]

You’re right, hacker did originally say board and that’s what Dondi responded to

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah that's quite interesting

[lethal moat]

Anyway, I’m going to allow Dondi’s inflection on a hyper specific statement decide how I view AE’s hierarchy until I’m proven otherwise

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah albeit this section is very much presumptions about the whats of the specific

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/salute-j-jonah-jameson-jk-simmons-spider-man-no-way-home-gotcha-gif-25022874

[lethal moat]

A rags to riches story for someone who either takes over after or makes a massive mistake would be interesting, although…

“Dealt (poopy) hand in life and has the power to fix it” could be more specific, like AE is the reason the person (or persons) had a (poopy) hand and now that they’re in power they have the ability to change things within AS

[lethal moat]

What happens to gen 2 who outlive their purpose: discuss

[maiden sundial]

Not going to lie they'd probably take care of them. You wouldn't necessarily terminate sapient creatures, as they'd learn and want to rebel.

Æ definitely knows better to keep their tests in good standing.

[lethal moat]

Shadow brought up the possibility of them having shorter lifespans, then I compared it to the surviving Clone Troopers from Star Wars

[maiden sundial]

Possible. But remember that the gen 2 are supposed to be humans, but better. Likely they'd have a slightly longer lifespan. Or maybe marginally smaller

[lethal moat]

We need more Gen 2 lore

[strange shell]

They ascend into gen 3

[meager junco]

Like rump said though, what happens once AEs tasks are complete and the island is back under their control?
Would they try to keep Gen 2 afterwards?

We know they tried to make Gen 1 for most likely the same reasons, probably something along the lines of the perfect soldier or worker, not exactly the perfect human, as I doubt they’d want gen 2 so intelligent that they could potentially outsmart Apollo itself.

All we need is the answer of why Gen 1 and Gen 2 were even created for in general, possible private army company or something (even though Ik military stuff is despised and almost all neglected)

[lethal moat]

We know it’s for sure not for military purposes, however, that doesn’t mean it can’t be used as soldiers to retake the island, which is how I see them as of right now, soldiers who have to scavenge supplies rather than being given them

[meager junco]

Right

And like you said they’re the perfect way to get a bunch of employees to disappear without anyone in the real world asking
“Where did this person go?”

[lethal moat]

I feel like anything being classified as Typhon in AE will be related to the Echidna more than anything, rather than just being the most powerful thing on the island, which is obviously the matriarch

[signal pivot]

I remember reading somewhere that apollo formed or something after an implied massive world-related event, I like the obscurity that holds

[lethal moat]

Something out them into the forefront/powerful position

[signal pivot]

Yess..

makes me go hmmmm

[lethal moat]

Much thought, very curious

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/chris-mclean-total-drama-total-drama-island-chris-chris-total-drama-gif-2734772731205658948

What is their purpose?
Are they more of a "Modern/New" construction by AE?

[north sentinel]

"Are they more of a "Modern/New" construction by AE? 🤓 ☝️ "

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/salute-j-jonah-jameson-jk-simmons-spider-man-no-way-home-gotcha-gif-25022874

[lethal moat]

Given the name, I’d say it’s newer than gen 1, but I would hazard a guess that gen 2 came after the abandonment of the island, or at least the ones we will be playing would be, since Dondi mentioned that there are other islands that they could have come from, as well as the existence of gen 1 on the island, the naming most likely referring to the order in which both experiments were created

[acoustic osprey]

you replied to the mock post of my thought

[lethal moat]

I am making an attempt to be informative rather than yelling MATRIARCH, and hitting someone in the face with a baking pan of whipped cream

[fallow harbor]

what is matriarch

[snow jasper]

https://tenor.com/view/the-end-of-evangelion-gif-25422997

[iron anchor]

this man is about to be hit in the face with a baking pan of whipped cream

[lethal moat]

@meager junco Can you explain? I lost image perms

[lethal moat]

Actually wait, I have the lore server, ping me there whenever you see this and I can show you there

[meager junco]

Still need me to inform about matriarch?

[lethal moat]

You can

[meager junco]

No problem

[lethal moat]

Thanks

[meager junco]

Matriarch
Legacy: So in the isle lore, AE created a creature known as the matriarch, this was one of their most hidden assets, from legacy lore and from taps concept, we assume it was a massive creature, towering over even hypers(hypos for the people who still call them that)

Evrima: In evrima everything is basically the same except we have new information regarding her, she was supposedly a byproduct of Tisso Strain
Here are some of Taps concepts of how the animal might’ve grew/evolved

How she’ll fit in the game, we don’t know

Could be some sort of World boss like she could just be an environment thing, meaning she could just be in tanks/Vats

[fallow harbor]

why?

[low scarab]

I’m pretty sure don said there will be a very intricate and specific way of unlocking her

[meager junco]

This is news to me

[low scarab]

It was in an old dev stream dondi said something along the lines of “she may or may not have a very specific and difficult path of unlocking her as a playable”

It was again in an old don stream from legacy I believe

[meager junco]

Ohhh yeh, like 2 years ago or more like, last of legacy days?

[low scarab]

Yes

[meager junco]

Oh then yeh I’d assume it’s changed a lot

He could still have the core idea of her tho so we’ll see

[low scarab]

Yea we just don’t know enough

So much is still up in the air

[meager junco]

Mhm, me and rump are really hoping for more strain reveals, this means concepts, new models, possible new assets that have strain like for example neuro or tisso dilo

[low scarab]

For sure a lot of what we have consists of unofficial tapwing concepts I wouldn’t be surprised though if don took inspiration or canonized some of her artworks

[meager junco]

It’s what we all dream of especially with matriarch

Even tho the evolving thing wasn’t something dondi thought about, he should totally use it for the lore

[lethal moat]

Broke the loud distorted audio part of rule 5, I’m hoping it doesn’t last too long

[fallow harbor]

womp womo

[lethal moat]

Indeed

[icy onyx]

guys can someone explain me the isle lore

who are the mutants

[lethal moat]

Check the pinned comments in lore theories, also we have a lore server if you want to join

[sour rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-kenny-powers-danny-mcbride-basically-gif-14538814

[rose crow]

They're oversized turtles who like pizza

[lethal moat]

Teenage ones though, not old wrinkly bois

[swift dagger]

And they know kung fu.

[acoustic osprey]

just realised that's hermes staff

[lethal moat]

Oh yeah, le snek

[acoustic osprey]

well, Hermes in general

Merucry (hermes) Beneficial

taking YOU to Tartarus!!

[lethal moat]

Hermes occasionally ferried souls to the gates of Hades right?

[turbid egret]

I thought it was just a simple magic wand

[acoustic osprey]

being, Hermes would take souls of the dead to Charon

Charon was the ferryman

then you had the judges in which who would decide your fate

[lethal moat]

Before they crossed the Styx. Right

Wonder if we’ll see Styx in the isle lore, an underwater GUTS tunnel could be fun

[acoustic osprey]

relatively.
"On this side Styx encircling its nine regions, on that a barrier of fiery torrents [Pyriphlegethon] encloses his [Hermes descending into the underworld] path."

[lethal moat]

Shadow and I discussed the possibility of underwater base connected to the east islands, like the ending scenes in Jedi fallen order

[acoustic osprey]

mmmm

would be a nice way to connect the underworld in Greek Mythos to GUTS and Tartarus

[lethal moat]

I also brought up the idea of the monorail pylons being used as fence posts for the underwater gates/fences

[acoustic osprey]

imagine if entering Tartarus cost something
akin to what we know of Kharon

[lethal moat]

A really high access keycard that took us hours of fetch quests to find

[acoustic osprey]

akin to giving a singular coin (Danake) to the ferryman

[lethal moat]

I do think a lot of that depends on how much control the replicator has and what it wants people on the island to do or not do, I could see the replicator acting as Kharon

[acoustic osprey]

Replicator not just being an evil monsterous AI but a near-living but fully thinking creature with it's own augmented way of living and viewing life, due to it being artificial and not truly natural 🤯

so it's not always just out to kill and want for sacrifice, but also to communicate

[lethal moat]

Or, it being a very complex ai that is merely following previous orders

[acoustic osprey]

unlike the dinosaurs, strains and Tribals

[lethal moat]

I would love a replicator I could emphasize with

[acoustic osprey]

I do hope they don't tone her down to the extent of current AI
and more so to the extent of actual proper AI

[lethal moat]

I think having both the replicator and AE have reasonable motives would make for a great story

[acoustic osprey]

living in all ways, just without true body

[lethal moat]

Replicator lore this year 🤞

[acoustic osprey]

something reasonable for both sides
i agree with Don that a generic evil company is bad

where you could probably agree with some points from any side

[lethal moat]

But both sides have still done terrible things

Make it a realistic conflict with the nitty gritty details without glorifying one side or the other, or better yet, do glorify the side from both perspectives, and you have to fully live out both perspectives to understand the whole story

[acoustic osprey]

I say no man is truly good.
Look at Hellenism, at what the Gods have done

A child would look with simple awe and delight at thinking upon them

but the reality, when you grow up and learn about them?
They are to be feared. They have done good... but not everything is good.

[lethal moat]

I want realistic conflict, where both sides are fighting for something they believe in

Replicator stuff is fun to talk about

[acoustic osprey]

just gotta know the extents of her

[lethal moat]

The cloning vat showcase has some potential, maybe we’ll see something

[sour rivet]

Belief is a interesting aspect but what if there is no such thing ? The Replicator vs Humans would be a great way to encroach upon the theme of man vs nature. Ironically so, because the Replicator obviously is a man made machine.

The Replicator a being that doesn’t „believe“ but follows a chain of commands and codes that seemingly originates from somewhere (maybe from in itself) vs humans and their ideals and morals.
This story. The lore, could be so much more gruesome and terrifying. An enemy that has no boundaries, no bottom line, no moral values to hold on to and that has no conscious vs humans that are very much limited in the way they act due to their beliefs.

Would love to see these kind of things mentioned in the lore.

Reminds me of Shin Godzilla but swap out big ass kaiju with hyper intelligent super AI that doesn’t have the ability to suddenly adept to anything

[lethal moat]

Or, alternatively, the replicator is misrepresented by it’s followers

[sour rivet]

Freddy Five Bears is maybe part of the cannon since there is no official source that contradicts it

[acoustic osprey]

That'd feel disappointing, unless done well

[low scarab]

it costs make apollo angry

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-pascal-pedro-pascal-crying-the-unbearable-weight-of-massive-talent-crying-upset-gif-25522687

[finite lintel]

lol

[lethal moat]

Next lore podcast episode is errant 291, who all wants on?

[acoustic osprey]

I do! I do!

[lethal moat]

Nice, the expert himself, any other takers?

[strange shell]

At this point his sanity level might be negative

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/smiling-javi-gutierrez-pedro-pascal-the-unbearable-weight-of-massive-talent-happy-gif-25135496

[low scarab]

I’ll do my best to make it although it depends when we record

[opal yew]

love this as an idea for a boss that grows over time or as a player dino that takes 10 hours but is really strong

[acoustic osprey]

it's just hard to see how they could work around a boss-system in this multiplayer survival setting

[opal yew]

it grows like us then once it reaches a certain size if you smell you see a skull if you kill it you get a buff like damage resistance or somthing like that

[acoustic osprey]

unless you have the Tartarus kharon theory/want

[acoustic osprey]

Oh no, I can see how it would grow and all that.
but it, a "boss", working in this type of game

multiplayer survival animal games haven't figured out yet how bosses would work

[opal yew]

its just a big apex that can hunt everything

[acoustic osprey]

very bad system
more of a thing for players with getting Strains

[opal yew]

it would only be one every x amount of time making it rare

[acoustic osprey]

eh, not really.
Dying to an NPC boss sounds very unfair for the player

especially since Matriarch is more OP compared to Hypers, if you compare downsides

[cursive yacht]

Bossman, boss type gameplay doesn't work in multiplayer. It would just turn the game into "hunt the baby boss before it become an adult"

[opal yew]

you wouldnt know when it comes in you would only know when its 80+ % grown

[opal yew]

they can obvs tweak it

[cursive yacht]

Yeah, that's why everyone would make it their mission to find and kill it

[acoustic osprey]

which would be at it's prime, making it basically an unkillable and unstoppable NPC

to this extent, I would much prefer a player playing as a Matriarch
basically akin to a Hyper being played

[cursive yacht]

There is really no way it could be implemented. Apart from illusions like loud roars, or like big footsteps in the ground.

[pale marsh]

I'd rather matriarch not appear ingame as playable pr proper npc
Same goes for most other "characters" like it

Keep it in lore and easter eggs

[lethal moat]

I don’t know what I want yet, I need to see more development before I decide how to think about big scary things

[low scarab]

Get this man out of here

[pale marsh]

Suit yourself
You wont be so smug when playable matriarch removes all of its mystery and grandeur

[sour rivet]

This would be cooler

[pale marsh]

True

Something existing purely in lore and scarce easter eggs ingame
Vs kill 2k babies to unlock hyper 2: matriarch boogaloo

[sour rivet]

Matriarch is too strong

Hypers already wash the floor with everyone

[acoustic osprey]

In truth, yeah.
I would only like to see strains be in-game as a proper playable aspect

Playables should be the only extent. NEVER an NPC
Unless it's an event, then sure why not.

[lethal moat]

I just want to see the matriarch

[pale marsh]

i can see, npcs as very specific events, like an end game, victory, server wipe type scenario

like, lets say the win scenario for gen1 [assuming win scenarios are gonna be a thin in any capacity] is like, opening the gates to tartarus [assuming its a containment facility] and unleashing say, the colossus

in that scenario, npc colossus is good

[acoustic osprey]

The "time, place, species" event could be an aspect within that

But, it's a very random event scenario. So might be a bit unfair.
But, honestly, sounds a bit cool.

[lethal moat]

Just don’t be a deino swimming over the deepest part of the ocean at midnight

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[pale marsh]

maybe say for, matriarch, it could be a small npc that appears, and quickly dissapeers, but never something u can meaningfully interact with

thats kinda my bar

[lethal moat]

I think they should be playable, but be insanely hard to get

[acoustic osprey]

The Tartarus thing reminds me of the Greek Ferryman, Charon, idea

[lethal moat]

Like, unreasonably difficult to the point of almost impossible

[pale marsh]

ehh, im dead set that making these special characters playable in any form outside mods, would destroy their appeal and uniqueness

[acoustic osprey]

Potentially the paying to go in, to go to Tartarus, you're practically offering yourself (being locked, never to get out. Or something along those lines of offering something)

[acoustic osprey]

I wouldn't mind an LTM of sorts

But normal in-game? Nah

No thank you, Hypers are already quite OP

Anything that is obtainable, people will try to exploit it for any easy routes

[pale marsh]

idec about balance, i just think making them playable will never be good for what they are supposed to be

[acoustic osprey]

That is, sadly, the gaming community

[pale marsh]

strains are a thing that exists, the matriarch is an individual(?) its own character,

[acoustic osprey]

They would certainly take away from about it

[lethal moat]

Its own species

I would like to learn more about what they’ve changed for evrima strains before deciding how I think they should be implemented

[meager junco]

Tisso👀

Oh yeh rump remember the ejectable spike theory I had for tisso dilo? Never even realized this in her art lol

[lethal moat]

Hell yeah, deadly nadder

[meager junco]

Even hyper Rex says “nah im good bro, you do you”

Also this one is pretty nice

[lethal moat]

I’m also interested to see if they change the other strains, and to what extent

[meager junco]

I mean I’d say hyper probably only gets “edgier” with hyper Rex and it’s tusks

But it could be completely changed up

Neuro I actually like the legacy style of it, tisso might get a complete revamp so it’s possible we see a more sneaky tisso strain than a spikey one

[lethal moat]

We dont have a ton of official stuff on tissos, so it would be neat to see something

[meager junco]

Like tisso giga feels maybe more realistic than the crazy ones like tisso carno