isle-lore-theories

[clever swallow]

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[lethal moat]

Hey, check this out

[clever swallow]

just a bit mad lol

what is that?!

[strange shell]

I'll play tribal and build myself a house ON the replicator
We'll see how she likes it

[lethal moat]

Unofficial art and then my unofficial size comparison of that art of the matriarch

[clever swallow]

oh ok

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/fortnite-video-game-building-gif-17951649

[lethal moat]

The unofficial art is by a dev of the isle

[clever swallow]

ohhhhh okkkkk

[lethal moat]

And we know the matriarch is a planned thing and what it will do

[clever swallow]

what will it do?

[lethal moat]

It starts teeny and grows big, evolving as it eats and grows, basically, you are what you eat

[clever swallow]

oh ok lol cool

[lethal moat]

God I hope it's playable

[clever swallow]

you got art of it?

[lethal moat]

Keep in mind, this is all unofficial, and stuff in game will likely be very different

[clever swallow]

ye ik

[lethal moat]

Stage 1-6

[clever swallow]

I NEEEEED THAT NOWWWWWWWWWW

[lethal moat]

I have an addiction as well

[clever swallow]

GIVE IT TO ME NOWWWWWWWWWWWWW

lol

[lethal moat]

Calm down, I know this is a lot to take in lol

[clever swallow]

ok i will try and calm down its just sooo COOOOOOLLLLL

[lethal moat]

Yes, I know

https://tenor.com/view/palpatine-trained-well-star-wars-phantom-menace-darth-maul-gif-25840718

[clever swallow]

you got art of any other cooooolllllllllllllllllllllll things?

[lethal moat]

Mostly unofficial stuff by Tapwing, similar to the matriarch

But yis

[clever swallow]

idc if its unofficial i need to see more lol

[lethal moat]

The lore chat is not a place for this tho

[steel summit]

rumple teaching lore, thats nice to see

[clever swallow]

oh ok but me want to seee

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/oogway-saying-oogway-yesterday-is-history-tomorrow-is-a-mystery-but-today-is-a-gift-gif-21874265

[lethal moat]

welcome to the super top secret lore club

[clever swallow]

lol

[steel summit]

super top "secret" lore club

[acoustic osprey]

it might just be retconned out through the document

In terms of, it'll never reactivate

But, seeing as the channel and account is deleted
Just do it again!

[hollow sinew]

I’ve known about these artworks for years and never knew they were all the same creature, just different stages 😭😭😭 this all makes sense now-

[lethal moat]

All unofficial, but it’s the best representation we have for now

[acoustic osprey]

practically

[ionic sable]

potentially

[acoustic osprey]

nice to see Gateway has now dropped for embargo

hopefully we can catch some lore stuff via peoples streams or soon if Gateway drops

[lethal moat]

Nice

[patent ginkgo]

Wait I missed something didn’t I

[lethal moat]

Stress testors are allowed to stream gateway

[patent ginkgo]

Nice

[carmine elm]

who is streaming it

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-discussion but peeps like Iciee and P0

[icy onyx]

can someone tell me everything we know on the gateway map as of right now. what/where are these new spawns, named locations, do we have an updated map?

[icy onyx]

No updated map (yet) only named location we have (that I know of outside of the domes) is K-15. Spawns are more of a gameplay thing related to migrations without much lore to it (unless you wanna say they were designed by AE and/or the replicator instead of nature)

It's a lot of "we don't know" till we get our hands on the map and more lore stuff gets released by Dondi.

[acoustic osprey]

K15 and I12
@icy onyx

[icy onyx]

Ahhhh yeah, forgot about I12

[warm meadow]

Is that tartarus?

[bronze zodiac]

No

[lethal moat]

Just a dome

Tartarus is probably undergground

[bronze zodiac]

And most likely much larger

[lethal moat]

Oh yeah, we think it's gonna be massive

[low scarab]

A Tartarus map would be cool

[lethal moat]

First we need an entrance lol

[young sphinx]

Review embargo lifted?

[lethal moat]

Peope are allowed to stream gateway now yeah

[young sphinx]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-yus-gif-10818194

[last root]

how to get stress test

[lethal moat]

You had to have applied and gotten accepted

[last root]

applications is open?

[lethal moat]

Nope, closed several weeks ago

[young sphinx]

So much LORE is in this island

[lethal moat]

Yep, have you checked the pinned comments here?

[young sphinx]

I have not

I’ll check it out

[lethal moat]

We got some docs

[young sphinx]

Ooooo

[acoustic osprey]

from DefeatPete

[lethal moat]

Yeah, I think those are to stop erosion around the base of the bridge

[acoustic osprey]

could be
but pier scours usually are more solid and less pyramid shaped

[lethal moat]

Might be worth investigating

[acoustic osprey]

or, it'd be more abundant solidly

[acoustic osprey]

yeah.
Albeit, nothing much

but I'll do some research

i wonder where this exactly was

and they seem custom models
they have the same art style as AE buildings

[lethal moat]

We also thought they looked like either dragons teeth or czech hedgehogs, like anti-armor stuff

[acoustic osprey]

hmm, that could be true

but they need to be more solid though

unless they contained "X" inside

better view as well

[lethal moat]

They look like they were spilled there, rather than specifically placed

[acoustic osprey]

yeah

[lethal moat]

More at the bottem, less at the top

[acoustic osprey]

yeah, they seem deliberately spilled though

well, hold on actually

seeing as the "things" are more submerged in the water, then on the main path below the bridge

it's likely then, yeah, spilled. Either on purpose or not, but definitely without care

[lethal moat]

If it did spill, it spilled over both sides

[acoustic osprey]

yeah! Was just about to say

it makes sense for a lot to be in the water if it was spilled
but on both sides too?

UNLESS that's because of high tide Rump

which, i know tides might not exist in-game
but could in lore

[lethal moat]

Which makes me think it was purposeful, because transport trucks don't really do that

[acoustic osprey]

but i doubt high tide goes up here though

[lethal moat]

If it crashed, it would be more collected

on one side

[acoustic osprey]

yeah
unless that wasn't the main thing they were transporting

[lethal moat]

Very true

[acoustic osprey]

this might been akin to the "Pompeii people"

one of the last things left/that happened before/during the "incident"

[lethal moat]

Interesting to look at though, possibly important, possibly basic infrastructure

[acoustic osprey]

wave breakers (akin to pier cours)

in which, someone replied in it also needing to be more solid

and, i doubt it would be such
as quite a few a certainly are above the tide, WAY above the tide

[lethal moat]

Yeah, I thought is was something like that

[acoustic osprey]

I do wonder if it's parts of a building

or parts for Tartarus

[lethal moat]

The underwater tartarus hole is leaking

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[icy onyx]

They've gotta be based of the Tetrahedron Anti-Tank barriers on Juno Beach in Normandy.

But a better question is, why would AE need Anti-Tank traps on the island? (Probably just road blocks)

If they are based of the ones Germany used, then they are just road blocks. Not anti-erosion barriers

[acoustic osprey]

problem is there's no visible attachment for a mine, which the tetrahedrons would typically either have a mine or just have the hook for it (with no mine)
so they're just concrete barriers

it could be another very niche use of tetrahedrons, also used by the Nazis, for anti-landing

which are just the pyramids without any hook or attachments

https://youtu.be/XcQP2Suvlfg?t=601
@lethal moat seems like I12 hasn't changed

which is near the highlands

i have, though, no clue in which where it properly is

[lethal moat]

Highlands are in the northern half right?

[acoustic osprey]

believe so

[lethal moat]

Nice

[icy onyx]

Well these one's specifically were used for roadblocks, or sparingly used around the beaches for chokepoints. They wouldn't have mine placements on them (maybe around them but I can't find a source for it)

They were used alongside Dragons teeth as well. They're already a pretty rare fortification type so I'm doing my best to find sources on them but it's ROUGH because the Germans used so many different types of traps, especially pyramid type ones

The stuff I can find on them do have them near roads, on roads, or right in front of Dragons teeth barricades by roads. So I'm betting on roadblocks/guides or pseudo steep ledge barricades.

[lethal moat]

So it’s either to stop erosion or someone cleared off the road and dumped them off the bridge

[icy onyx]

Not super credible source buts it's the best worded one I could find that describes them. Since most tetrahedron traps were solid and the hollow type are overshadowed by them. I'll look up if there's any anti-erosion stuff that looks like them

Could be the devs mean for them to be anti-erosion and just thought they'd look cool, but my historical nerd side is iffy on it being anti-erosion

[acoustic osprey]

they wouldn't make sense for anti-erosion

just, even without papers, you have objects that are hollow

which allow water to surpass
unlike your typical wave breakers or large stones or pier scours

[icy onyx]

They'd be filled in more like these ones

Only triangle shaped erosion barricades I could find

[acoustic osprey]

in which those are thicker are are out at sea

unless it's all washed up
it's still too thin to be of much use

[icy onyx]

Reason why I say they might serve as barricades to steep ledges and/or roads is the 2 pics I've seen have them near steep areas. And I want to say that's a bridge to the right but I can't tell fully

Would need a tester to show more of the surroundings for me to fell more confident about it

[lethal moat]

Something to look for, would be interesting to find out what’s nearby, and whether or not it would be worth barricading the road to protect

[icy onyx]

Yeah, I definitely wanna see what the thing on the upper right corner is. If it's a bridge, or a cage (maybe?), or whatever it is

I'm leaning on bridge though

[acoustic osprey]

it's a bridge

[keen belfry]

Definitely a bridge, so there has to be a road to somewhere

[acoustic osprey]

it's a connected to a road

[keen belfry]

I’m pretty excited for more detailed human structures like the interior of the aviary

[acoustic osprey]

mhm

[icy onyx]

I'm especially excited to see if my theory for some of the domes is true when we get interiors

god I want a Botany facility

[lethal moat]

The main thing that makes me think it isn’t erosion related is that it’s the only place I’ve seen it, and it’s only on one side of the river

[acoustic osprey]

and apparently the monorails were removed as well

and GUTS aren't accessible properly

which is quite interesting

[fair arrow]

Gateway brings lore

And the lore people are active

[icy onyx]

Maybe monorails will be added back when GUTS is more finished

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/kang-the-conqueror-kang-variants-many-kangs-multiple-kangs-kangs-cheering-gif-13082239200333412930

[acoustic osprey]

maybe
This sounds like the case hopefully

[fair arrow]

I have no idea what GUTS is

[icy onyx]

I miss them already

[fair arrow]

Explanation

[icy onyx]

Generic Underground Tunnel System

[lethal moat]

@icy onyx Educate this man, I’m at work

[fair arrow]

Right

Weird how it perfectly spells the words guts but Y’know

So what’s the recent discussion all about

[icy onyx]

Mainly just figuring out what triangles mean in map lmao. They look referenced off of barriers that Germans used in WW2. But with them being by water we can't fully tell if a Dev thinks they looked cool as a erosion barrier, if they were barriers/roadblocks for vehicles. Or if they were a mixture of both theories

THE TRIANGLES. WHAT DO THEY MEAN

[fair arrow]

Gimme a sec to think

[icy onyx]

Yet another "we don't know" to add to the list of we don't knows

It's probably just a case of a dev thinks they look cool, but what's the point of being a lore guy if you don't overthink lmao

[fair arrow]

They look washed up obv

They are used for stopping waves

Maybe flooding happens often there

[icy onyx]

Yeah but at they same time they wouldn't be that good at it with them being hollow. Which is one of two reasons that confuses me as if they are meant to be erosion barriers or not. The second being while they're all over the place and strewn about

Unless like, a MAJOR hurricane or flood came in and threw them everywhere. But thatd just show how sucky they are as erosion/wave barriers

[lethal moat]

And, the island has been abandoned for 20+ years

[icy onyx]

Which in turn wouldnt be too far of a stretch that storms, dinosaurs, etc pushed them down the very clear slope from the road/bridge and the river jumbled them everywhere and together over the decades

[acoustic osprey]

It's an unofficial name from Dondi

as it was originally the name "Guts" for the cave system under The Spire on Spiro

[acoustic osprey]

washed up but perfectly around each side of the bridge

and show no where else upon the river

[fair arrow]

Maybe the current ends there

[acoustic osprey]

sure, it's an "ST build"
but, then, surely, it would be more finalised

[acoustic osprey]

maybe
but there's no trace of them anywhere else
and the river still continues

which, it still shows up on both sides of the bridge

[fair arrow]

Were they used as blockades then?

[acoustic osprey]

and appears too high above the bridge for a tide to reach

[acoustic osprey]

maybe
I'd say certainly not for that bridge

[fair arrow]

Gtg, brb

[acoustic osprey]

you can simply walk around it

[acoustic osprey]

nice chat, ciao. Stay well

[icy onyx]

Since they are showing the same barrier close to the bridge and road

[acoustic osprey]

hmm

it's just weirdly placed

you can still walk around them
and they're not near other bridges too

maybe the bridge leads to somewhere important

what, what it truly does comes to no avail

as it's just there
too thin to stop proper the thin, alongside too hollow

let's hope Don sees these messages and give us a clue

as I'm sure any answer will still confuse us

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-triangle-dancing-bouncing-gif-16626909

[low scarab]

def a confirmation that strains are coming

[icy onyx]

the new Type-T strain

[remote dew]

i think the isle is a isle

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[lethal moat]

Just because they are purposely placed, I think it’s anti-erosion, and not dumped from somewhere else or washed down

[icy onyx]

Probably right

[fair arrow]

back again

anyways, Player0 explored Gateway and found a lot of human structures
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtFp8-ZXZUc

might be some info there

[acoustic osprey]

yes

practically nothing new though sadly

all the buildings haven't changed much since Xmas ST
besides the giant gate

[fair arrow]

sadly

[empty wolf]

i heard they removed the underground tunnels but not permanently

[acoustic osprey]

GUTS and monorails

[lethal moat]

Do we know if they’ll be back upon final release?

[acoustic osprey]

maybe

no confirmation

[night tendon]

some tell me the entire lore summed up in 30 sentences or less.

[lethal moat]

Can’t do that chief, best I’ve got is this: #isle-lore-theories message

[icy onyx]

Uhhhh company and AI do things. Creates dinos and 2 generations of humans. Plot happens and they evacuate island

Yeah

[lethal moat]

The first document in pinned comments is a summary

[primal leaf]

guys i got a theory about the isle

it makes us introverts and social rejects

https://tenor.com/view/the-isle-kaperoo-isle-squid-game-gif-23432336

[fair arrow]

nuh uh

dinosaurs are cool

[primal leaf]

said the social rejects😢

[remote dew]

this person is on to something

[ionic sable]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/808187399753433108/1161100109581406339/exploding_rodent.gif?ex=653711be&is=65249cbe&hm=2e814deb84c709f60a7241d51d5cbcda74ef0434f028005ab88fd91aa24d91b6&

[acoustic osprey]

and hacker!!!

[lethal moat]

Can't leave the poor guy out

[acoustic osprey]

I might just have to now!

[acoustic osprey]

also Rump

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1165597703229677659/376210_20231021222924_1.png?ex=65476e74&is=6534f974&hm=43532fff66267899894bc3aba0ce1460b68ca6c94b0e3aadc657ffd8042e97d8&

seems like GUTS no functional

[lethal moat]

Very sad

[acoustic osprey]

but this still exists

[lethal moat]

I will wait

[acoustic osprey]

so, it's likely that either GUTS/the whole underground funny stuff

is incomplete
or the ST is not completely embargo lifted

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1165597704844480512/376210_20231021223224_1.png?ex=65476e74&is=6534f974&hm=2ba9f246d986f8b7447770f0c9d4be11a9f605333baaf48d4b6c96e2daddc136&
seems like you could go further in, unlike Xmas ST

[lethal moat]

hM

[acoustic osprey]

which is interesting.
Seeing as they put the effort it to do this, seems like it's likely that GUTS won't be functional on release

which is fair.
but, as a lore and human man, would've preferred if everything about the map was complete

[lethal moat]

Maybe deeply interconnected with domes/tartarus

[acoustic osprey]

(Excluding Tartarus, for obvious reasons)

[acoustic osprey]

i say yeah.
If GUTS truly connects the whole island underground

I can imagine you'd want to get from GUTS tunnels to the domes

and not go into tunnel for nothing

especially seeing as humans aren't properly playable yet

and have no guns

but, it's a shame no monorails as well.

Especially seeing as Monorails aren't exclusively GUTS

[icy onyx]

Well, hopefully we will be in for a treat when (if?) monorail and GUTS return

[lethal moat]

I hope a ton of human stuff drops all at the same time

[hollow sinew]

Lol I asked that same question a while ago too so hopefully this helps you >_<

[signal pivot]

That was me btw

Still trying to re-establish here that I made this thing

It was back when we had a meme channel I just edited it on my phone and then other people used it, named it, etc. The original image was taken by eyeseeyou of their female juvi dilo. So yeah ben is actually a girl

[acoustic osprey]

Yes, Ben is girl

[low scarab]

I really just want evrima to start giving lore like legacy

I want transmissions

I want loading screens

I want nightmares

[icy onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/me-too-me-too-kid-incredibles-gif-19919940

[patent ginkgo]

So, after looking at some gateway st videos, I found that some new edibles are being added, including dulse. Dulse is a seaweed known for being a prominent source of food in northern waters, which is weird cause now it’s in a tropical location and clearly alive. Now this just screams to me that it’s been modified to withstand high water temperatures and then introduced into such areas.This makes me think that AE’s involvement in botany/agriculture is specifically related to making new crops to deal with a warming world, possibly more so than today’s.

[icy onyx]

BOTANY LORE

[patent ginkgo]

Also, looking at some other plants such as the mangoes, upcoming bananas, and omnipresent elephant ears, I think the island(s) are in tropical Southeast Asia

Which would make sense because you can do a decent amount of things there without anyone looking too close

Botany is the best

[pure lodge]

What still confuses me lore wise is why there is northern pike in the tropical islands of gateway and evrima

[icy onyx]

It'd make sense if AE was trying to make things like fruits, plants and other beneficial food items to be survivable in any climate, any soil, any weather.

[patent ginkgo]

Including some fish like those pike

Although I think they’re actually muskys

[icy onyx]

Another reason why some of the domes being controlled environments makes more and more sense.

For example, why make a facility in the artic when you can just do it in a dome on an already established island

[patent ginkgo]

Exactly, and the general shape makes sense for climate control anyway

[lethal moat]

I’m wondering if the different islands are relatively close to each other like an archipelago, or if it’s clear across the planet

[signal pivot]

Regarding the name of the game I think it’s the first one

Wait nvm I misremembered what isle meant it’s just another word for island

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[acoustic osprey]

Welcome to the funny world of botany and bio-engineering

No doubt
These are not normally made plants

[patent ginkgo]

Oh also coconuts are native to Southeast Asia

So far SE Asia’s looking prime, at least for gateway

[pure lodge]

I was also thinking the same thing, also the catfish Ingame is a Mekong giant catfish which is found in Asia which also reinforces this theory

[patent ginkgo]

Exactly

I remember a while back someone was insisting that it was just a giant channel catfish, I just kept showing them pictures of this lol

[snow jasper]

not even giant, just channel catfish

[patent ginkgo]

But the thing is that it’s not even the same model

[snow jasper]

true

[patent ginkgo]

Also the channel cats I’ve seen irl are like 2 ft long at most

[snow jasper]

oh yeah, a lot of the botany is pretty native to south america

when it comes to the edible plants

but LD folaige is taken from across the globe

like the banana tree design is based off of west african ones

they're may not even be banana, but rather plantain

[patent ginkgo]

Yeah, but I think it was confirmed that bananas would be a good plant now, so I think it actually is true bananas

[snow jasper]

bananas are native to south east asia

[lofty wyvern]

Freddy

[snow jasper]

anyways, we don't know even if everything takes place on earth

and the replicator is probably more than capable of producing plant life too

[patent ginkgo]

True, but the elephant ears seem very naturalized, making me think they’re native to the island

[snow jasper]

the land is highly undisturbed

and they may have just adapted among all the other folaige

[patent ginkgo]

Again, true, but to me seems a bit unlikely

Invasives I’ve seen in undisturbed places seem to generally form dense thickets instead of spreading evenly across massive areas

So either they’ve been there for potentially a century or more as a species or they’re native

[snow jasper]

i don't think that there would have been this much thought put into the distribution of a plant species

despite the evidence

[patent ginkgo]

Well, remember AE has botany origins, so it could be thought through more than you would think

Or I’m overthinking it, which is highly probable

[snow jasper]

a question for jace

or dondi

[patent ginkgo]

Yep

[snow jasper]

if this is something all thought through like this, is solidifies dondi being one of the greatest story writers i know

and definitely confirms everythings is not thought up on the go

now i want to actually document every single species of plant in game now

and fungus too

[pure lodge]

Devs watching us get excited about plants

[patent ginkgo]

Done with the edibles

[snow jasper]

i could do with one hehe

[patent ginkgo]

• Mountain ash
• Wild Potato
• Banana
• Horned melon
• Pumpkin
• Marigold
• Mango
• Variegated orange
• Sumac
• Radish
• Golden Chanterelle
• Dulse
• Fireweed
• Russula
• Cashews
• Coconut

All the ones I’ve seen so far, including ones for gateway

Though I might have missed some gateway ones

[signal pivot]

Invasive banana

[icy onyx]

WOOOO BOTANY LETS GOOOO dinosaurs? Lame. What the nanners doin?

[patent ginkgo]

Speakin my language

[acoustic osprey]

I wouldn't be thinking about it too much

If they can make Dinos
They can surely make any plant survive in different habitats

[patent ginkgo]

Yes, I’m sure of that part

The question is why

What would AE get out of it, besides food for dinosaurs

Because making prehistoric plants for Dino food sounds more logical if you can just whip up a new organism

[maiden sundial]

I mean. It's possible the plants escaped during the abandonment.

[patent ginkgo]

True, but again why would they exist on the island in the first place

[maiden sundial]

They likely were trying to modify the plants too.

[maiden sundial]

Perhaps the genetic manipulation of botany would be a nice front for the real atrocities that happen there.

[patent ginkgo]

Exactly, but I think it’s also how AE first rose to power

[maiden sundial]

You buy an island in the middle of nowhere to experiment on GMO plants away from prying eyes, secretly making monsters under the veil. Ingenious strategy

[maiden sundial]

Likely I would say botany and pharma. Maybe cattle too.

Since Apollo isn't just its engineering department

[remote dew]

my theory is that in the isle we are all dinosaurs

but that's just me tho

[icy onyx]

Atrocities make it sound like AE is evil, which Dondi says isn't the case iirc.

I'd say its more of the good ol Malcolm quote

https://tenor.com/view/ian-malcolm-jurassic-park-preoccupied-gif-14303484

[maiden sundial]

I mean yea they ain't evil. It's just the stuff they did is crimes against nature.

[icy onyx]

Betterment of humanity always comes at a cost unfortunately

[maiden sundial]

True, but by the public eye Æ would be considered "evil" cuz of the genetic manipulation. And experimentation.

Which tbh, is nothing new with humanity. This is just on another level

[icy onyx]

At the same time though we don't know too much about the outside world sadly, or if whatever happened on the islands/facilities even had an impact on the world. Probably never will.

[maiden sundial]

Well. It's possible they're still working on things. Especially cuz gen 2 exists

[supple grove]

I’d say that the rest of the world doesn’t even know what Æ did on the islands or that the dinosaurs even exist. After all Æ would probably keep that stuff under wraps until the unknown incident, which who knows if that ever got to the public or not.

[lethal moat]

We actually have a dondi quote about this

[supple grove]

Can I see it?

[lethal moat]

#isle-lore-theories message

[supple grove]

Cheers mate

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/cheers-ill-drink-to-that-bro-gif-12940340

[toxic zinc]

I think the trumpet mushroom is golden chanterelle

[patent ginkgo]

Thanks! I’ll revise my list

[icy onyx]

Ain't no way pteras or especially Quetz haven't traveled beyond the islands.

Unless they got like a killswitch or something that kills them before getting too close

Or AE has the area on lock down (more likely outcome)

[lethal moat]

AE stopping the fliers from getting out

https://tenor.com/view/aa-gun-anti-air-gun-ciws-minigun-53135-gif-18927036

[maiden sundial]

Iirc they're engineered to have worse stamina than their historical counterparts.

[lethal moat]

Quetz probably could have flown for 100s of miles if it glided, so it would have waaaaay less

[maiden sundial]

That or they had some sort of electric perimeter

[chilly sage]

https://tenor.com/view/nerd-nerd-cat-cat-nerd-glasses-pointing-out-gif-7875205738553206546

[acoustic osprey]

I mean, just do a Jurassic Park

I know it's "copying"

but it's really reasonable

[steel summit]

so just do nothing then?, or are you talking about the novel that i havent read

[steel summit]

i really like how AE is not your "stereotypical evil company" but more like "normal company that does some shady stuff".

[lethal moat]

I’m the novel, the dinosaurs need a protein to be fed to them every day so they don’t die, it’s pretty specific and comes from soybeans

[steel summit]

i see, that makes sense

[strange shell]

And in the novel it doesn't work

[maiden sundial]

Iirc that's also in JP2.

[pure lodge]

The nutrient in question is lysine

[rapid chasm]

chat

i found this

[iron anchor]

the isle anime

[rapid chasm]

real

i like the gear the dude has

very light and realistic, also has pistol

[tulip igloo]

The bite mark on his arm looks very humanoid

Tribal?

[lethal moat]

It’s neat for sure, but not pertinent to the lore

[strange shell]

Yeah especially condiering it's a fanart and not official art

[merry zenith]

is nesting broken

[lethal moat]

Probably the wrong chat

[merry zenith]

oh sorry

my friends kept asking me

[lethal moat]

Is all good, just wrong spot to ask, I’d recommend https://discord.com/channels/401464048610312193/855527844670865438, or just DMing someone

[merry zenith]

wait

wrong channel

[lethal moat]

Yep

[vast island]

GIVE ME GATEWAU DONDI

NOW

amarok i wannna. gateway.

pwleasew

[neon wolf]

this channel is for lore theories. lets please keep it like that

[vast island]

ops

[rose scaffold]

I just watched the videos by Player0, and several others of "Found Footage" titled The Apollo Files..Are those canon to the actual lore?

[supple grove]

No

They’re well made and interesting though.

[rose scaffold]

Ohh alr alr thankyou

[acoustic osprey]

No

Our stuff isn't canon
all fan stuff in which we try and utilise actual Isle Lore for our own sake

Being, some of us are literally the most lore nerds for the isle
it tries to be akin to such

[low scarab]

I didn’t know you work with them cool

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/blade-runner-ryan-gosling-reading-dna-2049-gif-21503732

[supple grove]

Don’t know if this has been said yet, but those are anti-landing devices from the Second World War. What I mean by that is those prevent amphibious landings by ship, similar to the Hedgehog which is meant to stop tanks in their tracks.

So, they were most likely placed there by Æ, why? Well who knows. They are meant to be used defensively and they were connected together by wire during the war. But as seen in the photo they aren’t connected so either they weren’t connected in the first place or were cut by something. In some cases like on the island of Guernsey mines were attached to them so when a ship collided it would sink. My question is why are they on a riverbed, considering chain reactions and that. I guess Æ just dumped them along the riverbed for some reason.

Incoherent thing finished.

[acoustic osprey]

Already been said of such

[lethal moat]

Yeah, we think they might be anti-vehicle or anti-erosion, but they are certainly interesting

[acoustic osprey]

makes minimal sense to see them washed up

not near any landing strips
and AE is not a military company

[maiden sundial]

Æ is pharma, gene engineering. And maybe botany.

[acoustic osprey]

no

[maiden sundial]

I thought they still had pharma in their repertoire

[acoustic osprey]

Strains are, more or less from Don, less about pharmaceuticals
it's more a coincidence that is is such

but, Apollo has a subsidiary in which does Pharmaceuticals

in which their roots spawn from Botany + Agriculture (Food)

to where Apollo Engineering does Bio-engineering

likely, originally, for better food production

[maiden sundial]

Hence why possibly they have so many plants on the island. Not for the dinosaurs, but they're just experiments that broke out via pollination during what I kinda wanna call the revolt.

[supple grove]

That’s what makes me confused, and with anti-landing devices they are placed in water along the coast, not on a riverbed. and I doubt they all would just wash up like that.

[acoustic osprey]

you tell me lol

that's why I presume it's likely less an anti-landing device

[acoustic osprey]

i wouldn't be surprised if half the plants accidently made their way out from the botany area after the "incident"

[maiden sundial]

Here's my theory: The islands (going with gateway on this one) we're originally bought for experimentation on plant matter to maximize efficiency. While still being made they found the replicator and began producing dinosaurs as well. And their experiments on perfecting humanity.

Then after the incident or the revolt. The plant matter escaped via pollination and the like. Spreading across the island. Same with the several populations of deer, goat, and boar.

Besides the dinosaurs being dinosaurs, The boars likely also helped outcompete the endemic life on the islands.

Also I just realized something. Medicine, agriculture, maybe even cattle. Makes sense for a company called apollo. @acoustic osprey @acoustic osprey

Oops accidental double ping

[low scarab]

What if all of this is just us rambling in circles about stuff that holds no value and dondi just watches in pleasure dropping bits of information that make no sense to keep us running in an endless cycle of suffering

[maiden sundial]

I think I got the basic idea down

[narrow quarry]

tell me about the sanctuaries

[maiden sundial]

Apollo started off as a pharma and agricultural company, likely botany. Over time they created the engineering branch (Æ). Which bought islands to modify plants. Eventually, Æ found the replicator. Which allowed for more experiments, the creation of the dinosaurs, and the experimentation into perfect humans. The first generation goes wrong and is contained, along with the strains. The cannibals are made as well as the matriarch, echidna, and the strains

[acoustic osprey]

temporary havens for juvies and smalls
#isle-discussion

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/kruithne-sonic-blah-jim-carrey-gif-25507288

[narrow quarry]

is that not lore? @acoustic osprey

[acoustic osprey]

not really

besides that they're cycads on the island

[maiden sundial]

The matriarch (and or echidna) found a way to communicate with the sentient replicator to formulate a revolt. Which succeeded, causing Æ to leave the islands. Only returning when the game starts, likely as a way to document the animals, since the ecosystems were an accident.

[acoustic osprey]

likely.
And/or domes/botany area being broken and contaminating
And the modern animals seem to be already built within the ecosystem of the dinosaurs on Gateway during AE's proper activity on the island

[maiden sundial]

Timeline? Ain't got a clue. But the passage of events I think I got down, feel free to correct me.

[acoustic osprey]

likely less cattle and more plant-based agriculture it seems

the general modern AI are less agricultural

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/struggle-sisyphus-gif-4952086791107433131

[lethal moat]

Yeah, I can see the replicator having a revolt, and I would love for the matriarch to be involved

[maiden sundial]

Why else would Æ leave the island for?

[acoustic osprey]

because of me

[lethal moat]

Disease maybe, but now that we’ve seen bloodstains in human bases, we know it left because violence, I do wonder if it was the Dino’s or gen 1 though, leaning towards gen 1

[maiden sundial]

Perhaps the strains?

[lethal moat]

Tissos would be able to get inside, the others are too big

Maybe

[maiden sundial]

Neurotenics, gen 1, matriarch, echidna, the eyeless and maybe the tisso

[lethal moat]

Yeah, but the bloodstains I’ve seen are inside, and the other strains are too big to enter the buildings without severely damaging them, maybe echidna or an early stage of matriarch, but I doubt neuro or hyper, I’m leaning towards the gen 1 theory though

[maiden sundial]

Maybe a neuro omni?

[lethal moat]

Maybe

[maiden sundial]

Also the horde of Gen 1 would definitely be an issue.

[lethal moat]

Yeah, I’m thinking gen 1 and replicator, possible involvement from something else

[maiden sundial]

Echidna definitely. I honestly kinda see that echinda is the surrogate mama to the eyeless and gen 1.

[lethal moat]

I can see it, replicator gifted a gen 1 nerotenic strain to lead a takeover of the island

[maiden sundial]

Also echidna was genetically made iirc.

[lethal moat]

We know that for sure in evrima? Or is that still for legacy

[acoustic osprey]

in terms of?

[lethal moat]

Echidna being genetically made vs being neuro strain

Interested to see if the triad are going to be human, gen 1, or gen 2

Or is it the trinity, idk

[acoustic osprey]

well, she's the Neurotenic Mastermind

[lethal moat]

Right, but we haven't heard anything new about it since legacy?

[acoustic osprey]

no

we know it's a Carrier

[lethal moat]

I thought so

[patent ginkgo]

So on the topic of why AE left in violence, wouldn’t the apparent presence of military obstacles be a factor? Especially since we know AE wasn’t military, and the obstacles would really only work against vehicles

[lethal moat]

We don't know for sure those are barricades, they might just be anti-erosion

Would love dev confirmation on it

[patent ginkgo]

But also the big roadblocks

[lethal moat]

There are other things?

[patent ginkgo]

Cause there’s both the smaller, thin civilian ones and the big ones put across roads

[patent ginkgo]

Yeah, take a look in player0’s vid, it shows both

[lethal moat]

The concrete block looking things?

[patent ginkgo]

Yeah

Some are across roads

Also some are stacked in bases

Which says to me that they’re from AE

[lethal moat]

Could just be cover or protection from larger dinosaurs, but it might be for vehicles, which would be interesting

[patent ginkgo]

A large Dino could just step over them though

It just seems like AE was trying to stop a sort of invasion or something, which doesn’t make sense

[acoustic osprey]

military obstacles
which?

[lethal moat]

Maybe they knew about the threat of gen 1 and it was cover from spears/arrows, etc

Wonder if gen 1 was a problem before the island was abandoned

[patent ginkgo]

The triangles (maybe) and the large concrete roadblocks

[patent ginkgo]

Maybe, cause I think I remember some official document saying not to respond to noises some noises in the wilderness

Though I might be hallucinating

[lethal moat]

You're right, might be echidna

[patent ginkgo]

Also, remember that encounter report about some strange individual? Could be an outside person related to the anti vehicle stuff in some way

[lethal moat]

I think it was neuro related, and something took control of the guy, since he had a heart attack as they took him in

[patent ginkgo]

I’m thinking like some militant group decided to invade the island, don’t know why that would have happened though

[patent ginkgo]

Good point

[lethal moat]

I think it's neuro related, probably echidna, which leads us to believe the gen 1 was a problem before the island was abandoned

[patent ginkgo]

Yes, though I would then expect them to have been controlled

[acoustic osprey]

they were likely
in the beginnging

seeing as they tests for Tribals

[patent ginkgo]

Which means an event happened other than just the existence of gen 1

[acoustic osprey]

Deimos GOLEM-Ceti

[lethal moat]

Maybe they all grouped together?

[acoustic osprey]

i don't see why not

[lethal moat]

Unification of gen 1 after replicator and echidna worked together?

[patent ginkgo]

Wait, maybe the replicator somehow assumed the role of echidna, cause the gen 1 seem to worship it, but not echidna

[lethal moat]

I think replicator and echidna are seperate

[patent ginkgo]

But like echidna was replaced by the replicator somehow

Idk, just throwing ideas against the wall

[lethal moat]

I'd prefer a partnership, but your ideas are possible

[patent ginkgo]

A partnership would also be likely

Maybe the event is due to the replicator’s operating knowledge relating to AE facilities in some way

[lethal moat]

That's what I'm thinking

[patent ginkgo]

Though I don’t see how it could have gathered such knowledge, or contacted echidna

[acoustic osprey]

seeing as Replicator is electric based

with CCTVs everywhere

[patent ginkgo]

Ah, though idk why it would have access to cctvs

[lethal moat]

Neuros primarily mess with electricity, so maybe there's something there about echidna/repicator relations

[patent ginkgo]

True

[acoustic osprey]

Aye

seeing as she can output short range communications

it's safe to say some sort of electrical relation to Neuros still exist

[lethal moat]

Maybe there's some sort of rivalry if they aren't working togehter?

[acoustic osprey]

whether Echidna and Replicator's relationship is 100% friendship is yet to be shown

[acoustic osprey]

I'd say mutual from the get go

but, in the future, we might have it so Replicator and Echidna see in different lenses

and, possible fight could occur

but, I'd WANT that for a future "Official Lore Event"

[lethal moat]

2 different factions of gen 1 could be interesting

[acoustic osprey]

imagine on Official Servers

🙂 👍

for a limited time event

and it would dictate the future of the game's lore

it's likely that we might not get something like that

seeing as Don likely has a planned ending.

[lethal moat]

But it would be neat

[acoustic osprey]

but, looking at Legacy's player interactiveness with lore

I don't see why not

[lethal moat]

A civil war vs AE vs dinosaurs would be interesting

[acoustic osprey]

mhm

[lethal moat]

Maaybe that's why AE decided to come back, gen 1 no longer being united?

[acoustic osprey]

maybe

Who knows why. Truly.
I hope it's valid, from Don

and not just "why not!"

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-angry-gif-10073916071412886160

I wish for confirmed lore rather than interpretive lore

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/kang-the-conqueror-kang-variants-many-kangs-multiple-kangs-kangs-cheering-gif-13082239200333412930

[sour rivet]

What if Aliens created AE

[lethal moat]

I doubt it

[sour rivet]

How can you be sure…

[iron anchor]

i haven’t seen any natural humans so he’s got a point

[modern rover]

yes you have

quetz concept art

[sour rivet]

They are aliens disguised as humans

[lethal moat]

Rex as well

[iron anchor]

those are natural?

not gen 2?

[icy onyx]

What if troodons created it.

[sour rivet]

Don’t be silly

Some people on this DC have no brain smh

[icy onyx]

You proposed aliens.

[sour rivet]

Aliens are realistic !

[icy onyx]

So are troodons.

[sour rivet]

Cap

[icy onyx]

How do you know sed aliens can even work technologically

Makes more sense since we saw humans with the robo quetz.

[iron anchor]

because i’m an alien

[sour rivet]

4531 gets me

[icy onyx]

And there’s mainly man made structures around the island.

[sour rivet]

Or alien made

[icy onyx]

You can believe that.

[sour rivet]

I know it trust me

Aliens build the Isle

100%

[icy onyx]

dondi made the isle.

[sour rivet]

And ?

[icy onyx]

he ain’t a alien.

[sour rivet]

Don’t tell me you didn’t know…

[icy onyx]

Out played.

[sour rivet]

Dondi isn’t a human

He’s an alien 👽

[icy onyx]

Americans are people too.

[sour rivet]

And so are aliens. Aliens are people

[icy onyx]

Aliens are not real.

[sour rivet]

Prove it

[sonic rampart]

Keep this channel serious and on topic

[icy onyx]

proof their non existent?

[sour rivet]

Sry couldn’t help myself

[icy onyx]

you are a bafoon.

[low scarab]

lol

[sour rivet]

Don’t be like that please keep it professional

[low scarab]

I mean we do know lord don created all living beasts

But fr why would ae be making dinosaurs

[sour rivet]

That’s what I’m saying

[low scarab]

Æ

[sour rivet]

That’s crazy. Alien language

[low scarab]

Why couldn’t they keep it safe-ish with strain plants

[sour rivet]

Ok i will stop before I get a mute

[low scarab]

Instead of making strain killing machines

[low scarab]

lol that’s exactly why I brought up ae

[sour rivet]

Good question I think Isaac said something like (I will send a gif)

[iron anchor]

ae stands for alien extraterrestrials

[low scarab]

Real

[sour rivet]

Didn’t find the Gif sad but essentially „there are no rules for Pokémon Batman I can do whatever I want HAHHAHA“

Meaning there are no laws stopping Æ to experiment on dinosaurs since they could have a patent on these creatures

And claim that they bioengineered them or whatnot

btw this looks a lot like a Xenomorph

[tardy herald]

ummm idk anyone else has this theory but i think the isle is an isle aye

[tardy herald]

and dont know if you know but i think we are all dinosaurs aswell

on an isle

with other dinosaurs

crazyyyyy

[low scarab]

What is everyone’s thoughts on strain plants being in game

[sour rivet]

Big Venus fly thingys sure sounds nice

[tardy herald]

i love you

[sour rivet]

That’s impossible

[tardy herald]

how

my love is real

[sour rivet]

Can’t be real this is Islecord only insane people reside here

Rizz doesn’t exist in this place

[low scarab]

This

[tardy herald]

then why and how am i rizzing u up this instant

[sour rivet]

Im being rizzed ?!

[tardy herald]

for sure

you want me i know it

[sour rivet]

Ayo

https://tenor.com/view/chill-out-kevin-hart-jumanji-jumanji-movie-gif-11210111

[ionic sable]

tf goin on in here

[native grotto]

G-guys i th-think t-there are d-d-d-dinossaurs in this island!

[tardy herald]

hahahaha

[tardy herald]

but for real you trynna be the T to my rex

[sour rivet]

Why u tempting me like this

[tardy herald]

hahah just trynna find the one on this isle

[sour rivet]

Hhahahaha love the pick up lines u have talent

[ionic sable]

Society was a mistake.

[sour rivet]

Yeah…

Well at least I won’t have a Gacha pfp

• 1 for Nihilus

https://tenor.com/view/moyai-moment-gif-24812238

[tardy herald]

thank you i truly believe we have like a spark here

maybe it was fate or the isle theory room hahah

[hollow canyon]

Yes, society was indeed a mistake

[brave violet]

Does any one remember this gobber

[sour rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-family-guy-perhaps-maybe-gif-16249623

[tardy herald]

https://tenor.com/view/nodding-happy-yes-yeah-agree-gif-9470192629442860968

[iron anchor]

imagine telling your kids that you’re together because of family guy

[sour rivet]

This channel has become cursed I apologize

[sonic rampart]

Again?

Come on dude

[sour rivet]

I swear I didn’t mean for it

I just discussed aliens

And bam I got rizzed

[iron anchor]

Lol

this is the symptoms of lore starvation

[sour rivet]

Indeed it is

I do kinda believe in the whole alien bs ngl just look at the neuros they look like xenomorphs

https://tenor.com/view/alien-covenant-xenomorph-gif-26391091

[iron anchor]

the only difference that neuros are smart

[sonic rampart]

Idk man, have you seen what geneticists have done to fruit flies? And that's just by breeding them and exposing them to a mutagen once in a while

[iron anchor]

got pics of that?

[sonic rampart]

Things get crazy when you push genetics to their sci fi boundaries

[sonic rampart]

Of fruit flies? Nah, but the "dark fly" project is a good read

[iron anchor]

i’ll check that out then thanks

[sour rivet]

Dark fly project sounds sick ima look it up too

[sonic rampart]

And that project is, afaik, absent of true genetic modification. It's just breeding

[strange shell]

If there has to be aliens in lore, I'd say the Replicator is Alien tech, or maybe the strains were made using some alien protein or smth

[sonic rampart]

So, insert crazy future technology into a gene project and you can push the limits of biology

[sour rivet]

Wth is that head

[sour rivet]

Just look at the domes just like the pyramids they were probably created by aliens !

[lethal moat]

I personally doubt aliens, but I guess it’s possible

[acoustic osprey]

well yes and no
It depends on when Drone Quetz was made and who made them

If it's an in-game thing or literally a mini event in lore

[meager junco]

I wonder if drone Quetz is actually Quetz in itself, meaning they never brought it back to life like the other dinos, but instead are using Quetz just for a natural camouflage to blend in with the environment so they can do surveillance without scaring or disturbing the animals on the island

[lethal moat]

I think so, probably a drone sort of thiung

[meager junco]

Would make sense imo but that’s just throwing an idea out there

[lethal moat]

Yeah, I agree

[meager junco]

Also a plausible idea but a bit more ridiculous, is how they could possibly transport a small team with the drone to specific spots on the island without using land vehicles or loud air vehicles

[lethal moat]

They already have a helicopter, and it could probably only carry one at a time, I think it's just a drone

[meager junco]

Yeh I was thinking like a 2 man team or maybe just 1 person, but surveillance drone seems the most realistic

[remote dew]

what if the dinosaurs are in a isle

and get this right the dinosaurs all twerk as a group

the more you know

[snow jasper]

Dryosaurus Status: Complete
Diabloceratops Status: Asset in Development (Nearing Completion)
Maiasaura: Asset in Development

Soon the trio will be here

Let the ancient prophecy unfold

[weak badger]

I like to imagine every dinosaur has a group and gets transported to the island in cages by helicopter

Which is probably accurate

[lethal moat]

That’s how it was going to be in legacy, I believe, we’ll see for Evrima

[snow jasper]

Some cages are a little big to be airlifted...

[weak badger]

Once they get transported the older dinosaurs have to adjust to the ecosystem change/disturbance and adapt to hunting/living with them (basically players getting used to going against the new dinos and getting better at figuring them out)

[weak badger]

By ship?

I haven’t actually seen all the human things, only cages I’ve seen are the smaller ones

But I imagine they go by ship then or have several modes of transport, they have to get there somehow

[snow jasper]

Bare in mind, a ship can only sail across seas, a ship cannot take in a cage the size of a hanger inland

[weak badger]

Hm this is true, perhaps with this particular thing they built a cage there for whatever reason it might be and had transported lab products to create dinosaurs to put on the island

[snow jasper]

Dinosaurs are created by the replicator

I am not educated enough on the replicator to comment about it

[weak badger]

I’m not educated about the lore period, I have bits of pieces and assuming some bits being inspired from Jurassic, so while we’re here what do you know about the lore so far or what you’re theories are? I’d love to know

[narrow quarry]

it’s in pinned messages

[snow jasper]

If only I knew a place to start

[weak badger]

I’ll read that later when my brain can manage, I like to hear people’s summary and their takes, conversation is lovely. My favorite thing is info dumping and talking to people about lore.

[snow jasper]

Lore here is so misplaced and scrambled, missing lots of context

[weak badger]

Sounds like fnaf lore

[snow jasper]

From what I know, FNAF is a teddy bear in the arms of a rabid Grizzly Bear ( The Isle )

[narrow quarry]

correct me if i’m wrong but the term of “when, what, where, how, and why” is nothing but speculation

he knows the most @acoustic osprey

imo

[weak badger]

I just love listening to people give info I suppose haha

[snow jasper]

The Infamous Isaac

He'll scramble yer brains more

[weak badger]

Usually I love to watch videos talking about lore when it comes to games or things I’m heavily interested in but I have yet to actually find any that really feeds my desire to try and get as much detail as possible but I dunno perhaps it’s the neurodivergent talking

[weak badger]

[low scarab]

Lololololol I was given this exact warning which I clearly did not heed

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-no-moon-obi-wan-kenobi-starwars-death-star-gif-10170550

[acoustic osprey]

Rough summary of the funny lore

Apollo Company
-> in the Food Industry (Agriculture)

-> Apollo Engineering (AE) - an Apollo Subsidiary
-> Went from food making (possibly, bio-genetically) into Dinosaur making ||apparently quickly)

-> AE made Genetically Monster Humans, called Tribals / Generation One
-> in which are labeled under "GOLEM-Ceti" -> in which refers to something, internationally, that is "monsterous"

-> AE made Strains, either during or before they made Tribals
-> Strains, incidentally, are also good for pharmaceutical use (in which, likely helps with another Apollo Subsidiary called Apollo Pharmaceuticals North)

-> Somehow Replicator fits in this. In Legacy lore, it was used to replicate your EIP a good thousand times

-> Something happened / We call it "The Incident"
-> Gateway has it's "hyper fences" broken

....

Time has apparently gone by, noticed by weathered buildings on both maps

-> Gen2s are on the islands, not to kill but to do things

[iron anchor]

no way a hyper wiped them out

musta been a hyper under the influence of echidna

with great money comes great weapon caliber

you need a strategist

[fossil nebula]

maybe gens 2s are there to ultimately rebuild the hyper fences and return gateway back to normal?

[lethal moat]

We know they'll be able to rebuild/recapture bases

[fossil nebula]

Yeah im just saying lore wise not necessarily gameplay wise

[lethal moat]

Yeah, we know that's their goal

[acoustic osprey]

I mean

It just sounds weird.

[fossil nebula]

yeah like too good to be true lol?

[acoustic osprey]

i wouldn't say too good

but, you have Greek God physique humans on an island

building hyper fences?

[fossil nebula]

If that is so I just wonder how they got built to begin with, i could be missing context though

[acoustic osprey]

to keep animals in

and/or Gen1s

[fossil nebula]

Ye but what originally made them if we know

that of which made it could probably repair it

[acoustic osprey]

i presume whomever AE paid to build fences

akin to JP workers

[fossil nebula]

Hmm maybe they will somehow tie into the repair of them in gameplay or future lore

but unlikely like we basically agreed

[modern rover]

Gen 2 can't do stuff like hyper fences, that requires a lot more resources they don't have access to

[fossil nebula]

they could protect those that do I imagine if need be

[lethal moat]

I don’t see gen 2 having the ability to rebuild hyper gates, but I’m fairly certain it’s been confirmed that they can repair the smaller ones right?

[pure lodge]

Also makes me wonder if they made specific paddocks for species or if they just mixed them all together

[iron anchor]

why would they not be able to repair hyper gates

just need some thick metal bars and a crane

[weak badger]

Most likely resources, it’s probably made in a special way to try and keep out hypers

And we’re pretty unsure of how much access they have to said resources and equipment

[iron anchor]

at this point just make a big wall

better yet a dome

can hypers even break in and out of domes?

[low scarab]

I think it’s weird that they made “humans”

With the replicator like how does that work

[iron anchor]

./generatecreature human

./generatecreature permanently buff human

and then because it’s ai, it comes out with 28 fingers

2 on one hand and 26 on the other

[rapid chasm]

Slaves/illegal immigrants

[ionic sable]

Quite the assumption to jump to right there.

[icy onyx]

probably just normal workers lol

[iron anchor]

if they did human experiments they might as well use slaves

[lethal moat]

I’d assume they won’t have the means to repair hyper fences, keep in mind, AE isnt a generic evil company, they might use their experiments for labor, but I doubt human slaves

[iron anchor]

we gave you super physique and now we expect you to serve us forever

paid by the hour, $0

[lethal moat]

Gen 2 never started as humans, they were created from the ground up

Therefore: intellectual property

[iron anchor]

but they still have a human brain with emotion and what not right

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-cowboy-finger-gun-pointing-moves-gif-17170914

We don’t know

[iron anchor]

like it’s basically a human built from scratch but like following a 1 to 1 blueprint

ah ok

[lethal moat]

Probably, but no confirmation

[lethal moat]

Probably no blueprint, gen 1 was the first experiment, and it wasn’t quite right, which is why they look so strange. (Isaac, I swear to god if you bring up GOLEM/DEIMOS..)

[iron anchor]

what is golden deinos

[lethal moat]

It’s a designation that basically means something looks monstrous

[iron anchor]

it’s not a creature?

[lethal moat]

Nope, it would apply to lots of creatures, like strains and gen 1, or even maybe a particularly ugly dino

[iron anchor]

Lol

[honest sierra]

Begun, the clone wars have.

[lethal moat]

Pretty much

[honest sierra]

[low scarab]

@acoustic osprey

Translate

[sonic rampart]

What do you mean translate?

[muted hill]

better version of the other image

[low scarab]

I’m joking, he speaks lore

[tulip igloo]

Kowalski, analysis

[lethal moat]

So know we know the lore is going to have characters, gives the opportunity for smarter things in lore to have personality, as well as specific people to look at

[sour rivet]

My believe that aliens created the Isle or are behind Æ is increasing with time. Let’s look at the evidence:

• Structures that look far too futuristic
• technology akin to cloning and even more (alien technology !)
• strains (some kind of way to subtly terraform the life on earth to adapt for alien creatures)
• neuros look like xenomorphs
• they are creating humans that are genetically… different. Maybe they are creating humans that can be enslaved via some DNA command
• what if the super AI was actually created by aliens or at least brought there via an alien ship.

After seeing all this evidence I’m convinced that Aliens are trying to terraform the earth and engineer human slaves via their DNA. But why are they doing this ? Because they know that humans would just nuke them and make the planet uninhabitable.

The Isles mystery is solved

[lethal moat]

Well, we know that AE was originally an agricultural company that was thrusted into power by some major world event

[sour rivet]

And that major world event was the first alien contact ! Even more evidence

At first some normal humans made plants and stuff and bam aliens took the company over and suddenly they made millions with their already advanced technology

[lethal moat]

I think it was some sort of drought or disease personally

[sour rivet]

Released by aliens

[lethal moat]

Maybe

[sour rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-always-sunny-in-philadelphia-gif-18270698

OH MY GOD

Æ = ALIEN ENGINEERING

[lethal moat]

I disagree, but it's totally plausible

[sour rivet]

The evidence it’s piling up I will craft a document sheet to prove y‘all that aliens are part of the Isle lore

[lethal moat]

I've got a summary already, but aliens are the assumption you get from that, goody

[sour rivet]

Of course it’s the most plausible reason

Hell I’m even asking Dondi in his stream if it’s true wish me luck

[lethal moat]

I didn't even realize, thanks for letting me knwo

[sour rivet]

No problem my brutha

[iron anchor]

wouldn’t be the only dino game with aliens

[sour rivet]

Dinosaurs and Aliens are related

[snow jasper]

Nah

[lethal moat]

Same

[pale marsh]

"Aliens did it" is kinda boring

[acoustic osprey]

thanks

[pseudo fable]

No aliens.

[sour rivet]

You shattered my heart

I might just go and burry myself

[pseudo fable]

Okay.

[sour rivet]

What about… sentient super AI that has its own personality ?

Is that a thing ? Aka replicator

[acoustic osprey]

good

[sour rivet]

Don’t be like that my first theory got stomped into the mud

[pseudo fable]

Clarke's third law.

[sour rivet]

Hmmmmm

Ups

That’s German

[acoustic osprey]

well, technically British

[sour rivet]

I accidentally posted something in German not realizing that it is… well German

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[low scarab]

Would you consider gen 2s “normal humans” do they know anything about the outside world?

[steel summit]

my questions exactly

[low scarab]

Also what is the outside world like

Are there any important wars or conflicts

[lethal moat]

I like no aliens, but the Clark’s third law is interesting, we might just not know how the replicator does things then

[low scarab]

I just want to see it

Like I want a freaky tapwing drawing for my background

With a bunch of dead bodies as sacrifices or something that’s all I ask

Cool wallpaper

[sour rivet]

Ask tapwing if they do commissions lol

[lethal moat]

I like the camera thing, it’s another interesting concept and I need to note security cameras I see on gateway

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/frankt-gif-23053344

[pure lodge]

having aliens would make things instantly lose any meaning of uniqueness

also aliens being a reason has been done to death which makes me want to vomit

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[sour rivet]

Yea yeah I get it aliens aren’t cool buttttt super computer with sentience may be a thing

[acoustic osprey]

it's mostly just submission to laziness
"the aliens did it"

Rather than building upon unique world building

[lavish rune]

Anyone realize just how powerful Apollo engineering is considering how much it would have taken to construct just one of those bio domes on gateway?

[acoustic osprey]

Well, who knows how long it took them

but seeing they can literally make dinosaurs and humans
I presume pretty well powered as a Mega-Corp

[lethal moat]

Oh we know, it’s an international company that the world has become largely dependent on from what I understand

[sour rivet]

How big are these domes anyway ?

[pure lodge]

big

[acoustic osprey]

Hexadome is VERY large

[lavish rune]

As in capable of housing redwood tree forest big

[pure lodge]

it dwarfs a full grown sauropod

[lethal moat]

I guesstimate the hexadome (biggest one) at about 1km for each side

[sour rivet]

I mean it wouldn’t be too hard to calculate the rough amount to build such a thing (if the walls are made out of concrete that is)

[steel summit]

i mean there were small full grown sauropods, but yeah absolutely

[lavish rune]

So it’s confirmed AE is an international corporation?

[lethal moat]

We don’t know how full the inside is, not the type of steel

[lethal moat]

Yes, with many subsidiaries

[acoustic osprey]

Seems like it

[sour rivet]

Yes but just by calculating the walls we may get a guess

[lavish rune]

would not be surprising if the funding was also through both legal and illegal means

[steel summit]

basically, it wouldnt make sense if it wasnt

[sour rivet]

As of currently it may cost more than a billion

[steel summit]

probably more of the legal means but yeah, that makes sense

[pure lodge]

i can onyl imagine the costs to make that biodome

main reason the island was abandoned cus they were in finacial debt for millenia

[sour rivet]

I really wonder how google map works in the Isle universe lul

Imagine just zooming on a trex

[acoustic osprey]

@lethal moat check Doc again

[pure lodge]

the drones used for google maps would all be destroyed by pterosaurs or worse

[lethal moat]

About 1km per side with 6 sides

[sour rivet]

Yeah yeah they can shield against it probably

[steel summit]

probably just like google maps (restricted areas cant be accessed)

[acoustic osprey]

hence the funny drone quetz, i presume

[lethal moat]

I’m heading to work, I’ll check when I get home

[acoustic osprey]

I wouldn't bet all my money on all the domes in being biodomes
but, even if one or two, I can imagine the energy used would be a lot

heck, I do wonder what type of fuel they use
nuclear? Carbon-based?

VisualTech was hesitant to tell us

[lethal moat]

I would guess geothermal because volcano

[acoustic osprey]

depends if it's still active I suppose

[steel summit]

probably also a lot of biofuel

[acoustic osprey]

however, iirc, Vis was about to tell us the fuel-type prior to Gateway being made

[sour rivet]

Is there somewhere a reference to „I have no mouth but I must scream“ ?

[acoustic osprey]

I mean, depends if Replicator goes crazy

[sour rivet]

It may already have intelligence/ sentience

[lethal moat]

I think it would be cool to have either unhinged ai or a reasonable ai with morals, no in between

[acoustic osprey]

I mean, if it's true AI
it has sentience

[steel summit]

what is sentience though?

[sour rivet]

Like Rump said determining how the AI behaves could play as a big role. Does it hate Æ ? Or does it hate humans ? Can it even feel

[lethal moat]

Consciousness and self awareness

[lethal moat]

All important questions before we even consider gen 1 culture

[steel summit]

consciousness is also a hard concept to describe, but yeah

[sour rivet]

True in order to determine how the AI feels towards humans we need to know what Gen 1s really are

[lethal moat]

How the ai feels towards humanity and how the ai feels towards AW might not be the same thing

[lethal moat]

Gen 1 was a failed experiment

[sour rivet]

Are Gen 2s the normal humans ?

[sour rivet]

True yes

[lethal moat]

Kinda

[sour rivet]

And who is working for the AI again ? Gen 1s or Gen 2s ?

[acoustic osprey]

yes and no

[acoustic osprey]

We know at least Gen1s are sacrificing things to her on an alter

[lethal moat]

Gen 1 worships it, gen 2’s goal is to recapture the island

[sour rivet]

Ok and are Gen 1s the product of the AI or are both products of Æ ?

[steel summit]

yesn't*

both probably Æ

[sour rivet]

Im kinda confused as in if the AI even engineers humans and animals (it has the name replicator in it soooo yeah)

[acoustic osprey]

?

[sour rivet]

The AI the replicator did it create stuff ?

Like Gen 1s and Gen 2s

[acoustic osprey]

Well
Either created
Or AE made them and Replicator replicates them

[sour rivet]

And Gen 2s are recapturing the island for Æ so they are working AGAINST the Replicator yes ?

Or is the AI another Cortana assisting Æ containing a mass containment breach

[acoustic osprey]

I don't believe Replicator truly creates things without a previous body to replicate

I'd say AE have their own ways of making
But she just makes it easier

[sour rivet]

Alrighty

[low scarab]

How do we think Æ got the replicator

Or Apollo

[lethal moat]

I think they made it

[low scarab]

Because we don’t really know who owns it right

[lethal moat]

AE is a subsidiary of Apollo, so Apollo owns AE

Who has(had) the replicator

[patent ginkgo]

Well there seems to be hydropower dams on gateway

[lethal moat]

I totally forgot about those, aren’t they capable of powering an entire city? I think that would be enough for the island

[patent ginkgo]

They produce a LOT of power, and I thought there were even two?so yeah, I think that’s the power source

[lethal moat]

That would be my best bet

[low scarab]

I know my idea is that does Apollo as a whole make use of it or is it reserved for just ae

[patent ginkgo]

I don’t know if someone said this earlier, but the Clarke’s third law statement probably explains why the gen 1 worship the replicator

[low scarab]

Well they worship it to gain favor of it

And how did ae build such big domes

And what does the replicator do if it doesn’t like you just refuse your request?

[lethal moat]

Much time and money

[lethal moat]

Probably gen 1 -> the eyeless transformation if I had to guess

[lethal moat]

I agree

[median shuttle]

sry send way too early

I've been kinda thinking about lore implications in the game menu, like how the starting screen and server browser obviously resemble old school computer terminals. And we see everything overgrown, foreshadowing something that went wrong causing this place to be abandoned. And even while you are selecting your dinosaur everything seems to be made to feel like your being watched by some invisible camera. Now could it be, we as the players are AE employees monitoring the dinosaurs remotley, maybe even some of the same AE employees that are gonna be send in to Gateway as the Mercs. This doesnt really go anywhere it's just my Interpretation of the Design Philosophy of how the game presents itself but I thought it was a interesting enough idea to share.

[patent ginkgo]

The old tech is certainly an important lore point, and yes the place was certainly abandoned by AE at some point

[lethal moat]

My leading theory is a gen 1 revolt

[median shuttle]

I dont really know too much abt Gen 1, can you give me a TLDR rundown, I know their called Tribals and look like scary mutants but not much else

[patent ginkgo]

An experiment to recreate humans. 7-9 ft tall, pale, hairless, very good at climbing.

[lethal moat]

Pinned comments have lore docs

[pulsar rock]

https://tenor.com/view/travis-scott-headbang-shake-sicko-mode-smh-gif-17416858

add #gateway-screenshots

wrong channel

[patent ginkgo]

i know

[lavish rune]

probably not nuclear as we would have seen a plant on the island somewhere, and it wouldn’t be the domes either as it would probably need those large vents

[clever zephyr]

no alway the vents or outlet could be underwater and the plant could be underground

[lavish rune]

Even if it was underground, how at risk would it be if the volcano were to awaken?

[clever zephyr]

denpends on how deep or where it is located compared to the valcano and or the valcanic vents

like the facility could be more near or in the ocean and is suplamented with geothermal power from the valcano

so the combination of nuclear and geothermal would produce enough power to make the creatures

[minor goblet]

wait this game has lore?

[clever zephyr]

lore and theories

[minor goblet]

huh, neat

[swift echo]

want a summary?

[lethal moat]

The Isle Lore Theory Document - Containing all keywords and information you need to know https://docs.google.com/document/d/1J3FnAzKdtmlIYzTfgSlevTgGLcn8h-Zaxlqn3WEicVw/edit

[minor goblet]

actually yeah kinda

[swift echo]

its all speculation

[minor goblet]

woah thats kinda cool, what're the eyeless?

[swift echo]

lemme grab a photo or two

[swift echo]

these abominations

[minor goblet]

zoooo weee mama

when're we getting those things as playables?

[swift echo]

[ionic sable]

[swift echo]

shhh 😄

you are the role model

[lethal moat]

Isaac and Hacker are le elders here

[swift echo]

exactly

[pale marsh]

nerds

[swift echo]

https://tenor.com/view/inauguration-cnn2017-trump-donald-trump-cant-hear-you-きこえない-gif-7576947

[iron anchor]

gen 1 same size as eyeless?

cause that things massive

[lethal moat]

Maybe, we think gen 1 might be a little smaller, but we don’t know for sure

[acoustic osprey]

maybe

[bleak fern]

I know it was ages ago you posted this, but is this a general lore doc you're referencing?
If so could I please see it? I've always wanted to know some more isle lore but it seemed so complicated and hugely expansive, so I was worried it would take me a decade to parse it if I looked through it on my own. I don't really want to dive head first into another deep well of lore right now. so, uh yeah idk can't remember how I was going to end this, if there is a lore doc could I see it? please?