isle-lore-theories

[wicked brook]

True but the term matriarch only indicates it’s female and has more power then the others

[knotty locust]

SACRIFICE LE PSEETACOH SARUS

[modern rover]

GET HIM IN

[knotty locust]

[heavy pagoda]

the isle has lore?

[thin vine]

yes

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/snowman-welcome-to-himalayas-monsters-inc-cold-heart-gif-12435231

[steel summit]

so what i know of the top of my head about isle lore is: replicator makes dino, dinos get sent to the island, replicator makes more things and then those things get sent to the island. am i right?

[lethal moat]

We believe the replicator may be on the island but that about sums it up

[steel summit]

ok

[prisma talon]

but why

[lethal moat]

What?

[prisma talon]

dwjkiy

[static imp]

Ark moment

[shell badger]

Tbh isle lore should just be:(alien or real humans) makes clones, Dino’s and hybrids and put them on the island to be an experiment boomb lore

[ionic sable]

[maiden sundial]

Well it isn't. It much more complicated

[lethal moat]

What if the island was abandoned because of an accident, or some sort of incident, and it was only safe to come back wen gen 2 arrives, like if the islandwalker only died right before gen 2 came in or something, and that's why they waited to come back.

[ionic sable]

Gen 2 didn't arrive on the island.

They were created and distributed. Same as the other inhabitants.

The better question is where the hell is everyone outside of the islands.

[lethal moat]

Yeah, but what I meant is that there has to be a reason AE waited so long to try to recontrol the island.

[full warren]

if theyre a large corporation could need approval to risk high dollar assets

[lethal moat]

Fair

[ionic sable]

Or rather maybe Apollo isn't the one who started the "recontrol" process.

Or rather maybe they didn't voluntarily.

[lethal moat]

Oh so many mysteries

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/blade-runner-ryan-gosling-reading-dna-2049-gif-21503732

[swift echo]

thas just dondi reading lore channel

[lethal moat]

Bro, he is so disappointed in us lol

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[novel token]

Whos dondi

[swift echo]

...dude 💀

[novel token]

I've been in this server for less than a day

I don't have encyclopedic knowledge of it

[swift echo]

he's the director/lead dev/lore master of The Isle

[lethal moat]

He is the guy we wait to lore drop because we definitely aren’t addicts

[swift echo]

yeah I defo dont have sleep deprivation staring at this channel

[lethal moat]

Definitely didn’t stay up till 1 in the morning last time lore dump arrived waiting for Dondi to leave

[swift echo]

that is so real

[novel token]

Alright I put "the isle dondi" in the search bar and it autoloaded to "the isle dondi drama" so now i got bigger questions

[lethal moat]

Yeah, there was an incident or two a few years back, but it’s in the past, he also has super top secret discord powers so he is hard to find

[swift echo]

yes he also has a binary code username and is invisible 24/7

[lethal moat]

Anyway, I’d recommend checking pinned comments and then asking questions if you have them about lore

[swift echo]

and/or asking Isaac

[acoustic osprey]

him and jace iirc

I know Jace's one says Jace

but all I could find from Don's is "m"

[acoustic osprey]

I wouldn't recommend chatting about it in this channel.
But, like all indie games these days, this game comes with it's own little micro drama

[swift echo]

literally though

[acoustic osprey]

I know

[swift echo]

bros the cookie in little alchemy 2

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-harvey-steve-meat-canyon-meat-canyon-gif-1658802658835191648

[bright bough]

New map?

[acoustic osprey]

For the isle? No
fun idea for a mod? sure

looks like an interesting play on v4

sure it's unrealistic, but looks diverse enough to be interesting

[chrome acorn]

Westeros

[acoustic osprey]

Easteros

Actually, it's West of Westeros

[chrome acorn]

southern continent

sothorios?

[acoustic osprey]

Sothoros

[acoustic osprey]

I mean, it's literally just this

but falling down linearly

[bright bough]

It's not an island, it's a continent.

[acoustic osprey]

yes

so it's a pangaea?

[chrome acorn]

can there be a big wall of ice on the snowy bit

[acoustic osprey]

I mean, honestly, have the snowy bit not end

How do you stop people from going beyond the map lore wise? Make it literally too cold to go any further

[chrome acorn]

Dino popsicles

[acoustic osprey]

their screen vignettes slowly with ice

[bright bough]

Yes

[acoustic osprey]

I think, my only issue is that the desert area is too small to be a desert
If it's going to be that big, it should be more Mediterranean, more just arid and shrub

with, realistically, https://gyazo.com/06193f135535c2e931b2ce41e96e1430 this area being the only area with proper life

which practically means
https://gyazo.com/3ca5c8d9805f6579d1767cbc329101fd

you have to travel a WHOLE desert to get to that area of "life"

which, is actually a really interesting idea to play with

an area that may, almost certainly, kill you

but if you're practically built like a camel

Why not

[chrome acorn]

who will be the camel

[acoustic osprey]

sadly, can't see this map being on the isle due to the isle being on earth || earth (?) ||

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/good-question-meme-shrek-gif-16886109

[chrome acorn]

earth 2

[acoustic osprey]

NOOOO

[bright bough]

at least it would have a good diversity of biomes

[chrome acorn]

earth prime

[bright bough]

the dino that passed through all the biomes and didn't die

[bright bough]

yes that and a stream, but they would also have dinosaurs suitable for each biome

but life would be more dangerous even in the jungle, swamp, plains, pine forest and savanna because of the concentration of life

[icy onyx]

This is really old but what about 1.5 how the eyeless get feesh (they deserve feesh)

[acoustic osprey]

they sing

their majestic voice entraps their prey in pure awe

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah

It feels definitely like V4 due to such

not a bad thing.
Every map should have something that it plays to; Such is, v4 being the variety/diversity of biomes

Even then

If you're going to play on biomes.
Why not also play on geological structures?

Like a salt lake in the arid/desert area (or akin to such)

And so on and so on

[polar schooner]

Speaking of V4, why not make V4 for Evrima? (A whole new V4, not like the one made back in 2017)

[modern rover]

i mean, why would they?

[polar schooner]

It's not needed, but same goes for Redwoods, why would they?
It's because we love it (Redwoods)

[modern rover]

legacy's map design doesn't really mesh well with EVRIMA's roster design or other elements, so I can't imagine a V4 working well outside of legacy

unless it's merely V4 by name, rather than presentation

[polar schooner]

A whole new V4 merely by name

[modern rover]

by that logic, you could literally call Gateway V4 and it'd be fine

[polar schooner]

Maybe

[lethal moat]

As long as there are caves like the GUTS I’ll be happy

[bright bough]

[chrome acorn]

Generic Underground Transport System

underground tunnels and such

connecting to the natural caves of the island aswell

[acoustic osprey]

hopefully

[chrome acorn]

pls dondi

[acoustic osprey]

No

just go on a random tangent with some random person who is interested in Isle Lore but new

then hope Don randomly spawns in and completely contradicts your current thought process about the lore

[lethal moat]

Always open to discussing tangents

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[chrome acorn]

Tangent about these dudes cuz I want more

[acoustic osprey]

mmm

[chrome acorn]

The ear getting more and more obvious is very interesting

[acoustic osprey]

I think, honestly, the only biggest issue I have with new Tribals
is the the fact that they are very anti-human in design

However, this issue is also covered with the understanding that we don't have a look of it's actual body

And the eyeless tribal design as well

I don't really have an issue, just we need a better clarification on such

[lethal moat]

It’s supposedly various customizable versions, which will be interesting, cause there might be different factions within gen 1, or it might just be aesthetic

[acoustic osprey]

seeing as Don allured to how similar Eyeless are to Tribals

[chrome acorn]

Also the top left one seems to not have as pronounced canine teeth

[acoustic osprey]

in saying that, it would be nice to know how one would get an Eyeless (in-lore, and maybe in game as well)

as well as knowing their actual name

So we can better understand their relationship (Eyeless) with Tribals

[acoustic osprey]

I know, I know.
But customisation like that is confusing

[chrome acorn]

Slowly mutating your tribal over time through completing sacrifices or tasks for the replicator maybe seems pretty likely

[lethal moat]

Maybe different abilities depending on what you sacrifice?

[acoustic osprey]

Aye. Just how is the question

[lethal moat]

If that is how it ends up working

[chrome acorn]

Relying less on eyesight and more on hearing seems to be a theme with what we got

[pale marsh]

I'm expecting to tribal customization to just be aesthetic
And a result of them not being "perfected" by AE standards like gen 2 are (probably)

[chrome acorn]

As the top left one with the most prominent ear “holes” basically has no eyes

[acoustic osprey]

aesthetic or not.
You still need a basis to base your game off

If you're going to have a wide variety of design customisation for Tribals
You shouldn't just do anything willy nilly without a proper subtext to such

[lethal moat]

I wonder if echolocation will be the originally planned night vision

I want to know if they will get war paint and such

[acoustic osprey]

if not, then why even care, at this point, about lore
if anything is dubious and/or has no true indication to the game's lore

despite it being in-game

[chrome acorn]

There’s old art of war paint not sure if anything has been said recently

[modern rover]

I personally do like the idea of the eyeless actually being an echolocation based playable, entirely built off seeing with sound

[acoustic osprey]

Albeit, we've seen Tribal paintings in Evrima and Legacy
I don't see why not for playable tribals

[lethal moat]

I want a bunch of cannibals with no eyes with creepy joker-like face paint

[pale marsh]

My point is more than trying to gleam meaning from everything is pointless and that this specific thing might not be that deep

[acoustic osprey]

I mean, there's two definite head models with the tribals
Both jaws are different
and has missing eyes

[pale marsh]

I'm sure theres a lore reason for they look like that. But I don't think gameplay has to match lore for this specifically

[acoustic osprey]

sure it's aesthetic
but missing eyes can say a lot

[lethal moat]

And, if the eyeless are really powerful like we suspect, having it make consistent noises to see things would be a decent balance

[pale marsh]

I still want echolocating eyeless

[acoustic osprey]

"gameplay" as in basically anything in-game actually trying to promote a sense of built lore that doesn't easily contradict

[chrome acorn]

The old sounds we got of what we believed to be the eyeless was alot of clicking so I’d say it’s likely they’re seeing with echolocation

[lethal moat]

Consistent clicking noises to see, or if there is already noise nearby would be cool

[pale marsh]

Issac I respect u alot
But wtf does that mean
It looks like word salad. I mean this respectfully

[acoustic osprey]

I can only see it being tedious
A fun concept to play around
but both hard mechanically and getting the best out of it for the player

[modern rover]

eh, it can be done

[acoustic osprey]

isle lore when everything can be definied and nothing truly can be contradicted

[modern rover]

and eyeless are so far out of the standard player's general experience it'd never be anything anyone is forced to deal with

[chrome acorn]

They thing with echolocation you don’t have to be loud to use sound to see as sound waves keep traveling no matter the volume

[pale marsh]

Yea
Too many people would hate it. For what would ultimately be a gimmick mechanic

[acoustic osprey]

isle lore when Tribals have multiple customisation options that completely change the facial structure of the character, ie. making it too akin to the Eyeless

[chrome acorn]

so gameplay wise you could see normally and have the “thing” always clicking passively and wtf is with the chain

[acoustic osprey]

Yes, it's a gimmick of a system
very niche

[pale marsh]

Also didn't dondi say he hadn't completely worked out how eyeless will work?

[lethal moat]

If it’s super specialized that requires people to complete rituals to obtain, it won’t be something people will have to worry about accidentally investing time into

[modern rover]

i mean, you could also have it be silent and rely on the noises of others

[chrome acorn]

That too

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-lore-theories message

[pale marsh]

Yea that's what I'm thinking of

[acoustic osprey]

vignetted and dark
if something makes a sound, the direction of the sound glows brighter

so like anti-morbius movie echolocation

[pale marsh]

Morbin time

[modern rover]

Having a creature that makes you rely on being silent to avoid it is really cool to me

[lethal moat]

They are also supposed to be one of the fastest things in game, which would work well if something big making a lot of noise walks up to you

[acoustic osprey]

Makes it harder for humans to just go around shooting willy nilly

sure, dinos can't do much against it.
But a large, fast, superhuman with echolocation?

[cinder atlas]

"Definied"

[modern rover]

Also, having it echolocate is an excellent counterbalance, since it makes noise to see, thus revealing it

[chrome acorn]

Yea I remember dondi saying the eyeless are supposed to be blindingly quick

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/blade-runner-ryan-gosling-reading-dna-2049-gif-21503732

[cinder atlas]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-finally-rest-watch-sunrise-grateful-universe-gif-14058636

[pale marsh]

Half of why I want eyeless to echolocate
Is to effectively be the clickers from the last of us
With a dash death angles from a quiet place

[acoustic osprey]

I know everything truly can't be defined.
I know Don has said not everything will be explained.

[pale marsh]

Somethings are best left unexplained for story tellings sake

[modern rover]

I personally see it more as a xenomorph/SCP-939 style situation

[acoustic osprey]

I just hope isn't "pure blind" in gameplay

[lethal moat]

Walk into a human base, hear clicking, look at the roof, three eyeless crawling down the wall towards you at lightning speed

[pale marsh]

Maybe make them very very near sighted

[chrome acorn]

I hope you can still see the environment but animals ( ai and players ) you can’t see unless they’re making noise/moving quickly

[pale marsh]

But every other sense it's in overdrive

[acoustic osprey]

for me, just a dimmed vignetted sight would be fine as a baseline

[cinder atlas]

I hope it's like the first iteration we got of new Nightvision. :)

[acoustic osprey]

nothing too tedious but an obvious hinder

[cinder atlas]

Mixed with Evolve scent

[acoustic osprey]

mmm

[pale marsh]

Basically

. . . Berserkers from gears of war . . .

Man. No idea I ever have is unique

[acoustic osprey]

no ideas are truly ever unique

[pale marsh]

Very blind but not fully blind

But
Second the hear something
They start charging and killing

True
Simpsons probably already did it

[chrome acorn]

I’d also like a sort of red outline to living things when it can see them maybe hearing their breathes and heartbeats too that’d be neat

[acoustic osprey]

I'm imaging the direction glows brighter
basically a large figurative arrow sign pointing in the direction of the nearby sound

[pale marsh]

My idea is essentially night vision
But things only light up in accordance to noise

Also make night vision not bad ofc

[chrome acorn]

Imagine you know somethings there because you can hear feint heart beats but because they aren’t moving you can’t find them

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[pale marsh]

Fix NV is a given

[maiden sundial]

Like rivers for example kinda like legacy glow.

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/steve-harvey-steve-meat-canyon-meat-canyon-gif-1658802658835191648

[pale marsh]

And ideally
Maybe
See and hear thru walls

[chrome acorn]

Ba bump ba bump ba bump

[pale marsh]

And ofc
Ur calls will light up ur screen for a bit

[maiden sundial]

Another thing. Man is it gonna be scary when getting eaten alive becomes a thing

[pale marsh]

So an eyeless is forced to atleast make some sounds in order to see

[acoustic osprey]

It should, if at all (if it can be done), be very blurred and not definied

[pale marsh]

Again
Like a clicker

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[pale marsh]

I'd probably do very subtle outlines

[lethal moat]

I also want to know if they are meant to hunt in packs or solo

[maiden sundial]

Probably they're solitary.

[chrome acorn]

I’m gonna say solo but I feel like if you wander into the wrong section of GUTS or a cave you might find wayyy more than one

[acoustic osprey]

I do prefer it being more others making sounds than yourself in terms of finding
Gameplay shouldn't be too completely hindered.

but, the idea of them "clicking" (give or take) does allow the following thing that their time might be up if they don't find a quiet way away

[pale marsh]

I'd prefer solitary
But not hostile to each other

[pale marsh]

I want clicking for the horror aspects
Cuz while quiet
If u pay attention u can still hear it

[lethal moat]

If they aren’t underground, they are probably in the open where they can use their speed and not have foliage making extra noise

[pale marsh]

For the tension

[acoustic osprey]

it's just a bit of a cliche.
Not sure what else though you could give it to replace such

[chrome acorn]

well they are also very good climber so idk

[pale marsh]

Puss in boots death whistling type beat I guess

Idc if it's cliche if it's done well

[acoustic osprey]

well
#isle-lore-theories message
Don doesn't know anymore. At least, we don't know what he knows about such yet- if he does

[chrome acorn]

It’d be kinda odd to lose your eyes AND your climbing ability but ok ig

[acoustic osprey]

I mean, you can't see

that's one whole sense gone

[chrome acorn]

But you can

[pale marsh]

I'd probably lose climbing in favor of high speeds

Ans hopefully alot of Stam (atleast. If we're using things like carno as reference)

[acoustic osprey]

even then, that's not to say tribals "lose" their eyes
We don't even know if Eyeless truly come/evolve/turn from Tribals

[chrome acorn]

true but this dude lost his eyes

[lethal moat]

Old concept art has it kind of doing a grapple thing with a carno

[acoustic osprey]

just that they're related to such
Same as Tribals are related to Gen2s

[acoustic osprey]

even then
Eyeless' "loss of eyes" are very different

[pale marsh]

Isn't that unofficial?

[acoustic osprey]

they didn't even have eyes from the get go

[acoustic osprey]

yes

if this is still it's design
Akin to Neuros, there is no evidence of eyes being once on the animal

[chrome acorn]

If that’s still it’s design then it can probably climb

[acoustic osprey]

from Don's response, it's dubious

if he isn't sure if one of it's original gameplay ideas isn't coming

then I'm more sceptical than not

[chrome acorn]

sure but then I’d be expecting a different design tbf

[acoustic osprey]

maybe, maybe

we just have to see if there is any difference to such

seeing as Tribals were more changed to do such, like that Eyeless design

[chrome acorn]

I really like the fan concept ngl

[acoustic osprey]

the right right one?

[chrome acorn]

Tall boy on the left

The right I can’t remember if it’s fan made

[acoustic osprey]

mm

[lethal moat]

A lot of nocturnal/eyeless/human stuff really relies on how extensive underground is

[chrome acorn]

not sure how much of the island GUTS goes through but from what’s been shown/talked about it seems pretty extensive plus the caves already there

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[lethal moat]

Glowing eyes or clicking in the dark will really add to the horror experience

[chrome acorn]

Notice the roof of the cave behind

[lethal moat]

I know, it’s amazing, but it’s also outdated

[chrome acorn]

yea very, but the blue eyeshine is nice

[lethal moat]

I also wonder if the basic crafting will include stuff like bone armor/mask, even if it’s just for aesthetic or rituals, that would be cool

[slow idol]

I hope you can attach Dino parts to sticks or whatever and they’re stats are dictated by what you use.

[candid spoke]

I had no idea these were even something in the plans 😮 ❤️

Or is it purely a fan concept not based on any plans

[modern rover]

no, it's based on plans

[chrome acorn]

the tall one is a fan concept but it’s based on the other ones which are planned but may get a redesign or touch ups but we don’t know

“Tall one” they are all tall but the long boy that seems to tower over everything else is just a fan thing

[plush widget]

Anyone here that can explain to me most of the isle's lore? Im a bit confused

[patent ginkgo]

Take a look at the pinned comments, there’s a doc there for lore

[plush widget]

Thank you mate

[lethal moat]

So echidna can probably do the skin walker thing where they call for help in order to lure in victims right? Do we know if that’s is just for her or if it is more of a strain related thing?

Because neuros can talk to other species if I remember correctly

[restive crescent]

can somebody explain the whole fan lore rn?

[dapper zodiac]

I think it’s about like scientist, creating dinosaurs like Dilophosaurus in troodon for their venom and so they can cure cancer and diseases and stuff, but the dinosaurs started mutating into dinosaurs like the hypo Rex and spino

That’s what I think it’s just a theory

[patent ginkgo]

Fan lore or actual lore

[restive crescent]

both

[lethal moat]

None of what you said is correct

[dapper zodiac]

Lol ik

[lethal moat]

Fan lore isn’t really important

[dapper zodiac]

True I am just guessing

[lethal moat]

Alright, however, we know replicator makes Dino’s, not scientists, and they didn’t make Dino’s for venom, they made different Dino’s for who knows why, and strains are a byproduct of research, no accidental mutations that we know of

[dapper zodiac]

Oh

[lethal moat]

We know about dinosaurs existing because of replicator made for unknown reasons that started off being related to food through some sting of connections we don’t know yet

[dapper zodiac]

Ok

[chrome acorn]

Check pin for the lore

[acoustic osprey]

Siren

[steel summit]

by what i know about Echidna it might have some telepathic and even telekinetic powers, but i might be wrong

[acoustic osprey]

Well, nothing of that confirmed.
We just know it can copy the voice of any human it hears and transmit it short range

[steel summit]

i know ,but i seem to remember something about it

[young sphinx]

So what do we know about the dumpster man ?

[lethal moat]

Which one?

[acoustic osprey]

John Cake

[maiden sundial]

The legend.

[acoustic osprey]

^

[icy onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/gun-gif-8323074

[plush widget]

do dinos turn into type - H and N themselves ? im kind lost here

[modern rover]

the transformation and how it's achieved are unknown for now

[plush widget]

alright , good to know

[rapid chasm]

Magical mushrooms

[hasty flint]

eyeseeyou is cring

[lethal moat]

The isle does have those tho

[icy onyx]

In old game they did themselves because of progression that's all I know

[stuck flame]

I miss hypers

[lethal moat]

Still planned

[stuck flame]

Rlly?

[lethal moat]

Yeah, got a redesign

[stuck flame]

Lookin scary as always lol

[lethal moat]

Indeed

[modern rover]

why is that image so compressed lol

[lethal moat]

My phone is mean

[stuck flame]

All phones

[lethal moat]

😞

[stuck flame]

I cant belive im addicted to the isle lore lol

[modern rover]

thank u

[chrome acorn]

o7

[lethal moat]

Beware all yee who pass these gates

[stuck flame]

Lol

[hallow current]

I’m pretty sure they were made

Like humans made them for some reason

[lethal moat]

Probably the replicator, but we don’t really know

[modern rover]

the humans probably DID make them, but the replicator is responsible for them in The Isle

their presence does serve a research purpose

[hallow current]

If humans did make them, then WHY DID THEY?

[modern rover]

medical research I believe

[lethal moat]

To research some medicinal purpose presumably

[hallow current]

Like one day they were like “Man I wanna create a weapon of mass destruction that will everything it sees.”

[modern rover]

that likely wasn't the endgoal

[lethal moat]

Not a weapon, just a consequence

[modern rover]

strains are most likely either incomplete or unwanted concequences of research

[hallow current]

Weren’t the dinosaurs meant for military purposes?

[modern rover]

nope

[lethal moat]

No

[hallow current]

Ok good

[modern rover]

absolutely nothing to do with the miltary

[hallow current]

Cannot imagine a taco going to the battlefield

[modern rover]

any dinosaur on the battlefield would be ridiculous

a rex is cool, but we have weaponry to immediately kill it with ease, so it's not worth deploying

it also is just harder to control than just a tank, so there's really no functional purpose to any dinosaur's deployment

even a hyper is a fool's errand, because it will starve out in moments and probably indiscriminately kill any member of both sides

[lethal moat]

Some sort of medical purpose somehow connected to food through a series of events

[hallow current]

How fast do hypos starve?

[lethal moat]

Yes

[hallow current]

Good to know

[modern rover]

hypers have an insanely speedy metabolism

[hallow current]

I’m pretty sure they’re bulletproof

But a tank would 100% kill one

[modern rover]

they have insane armour and regeneration, yes

[stuck flame]

Im 100% sure

[lethal moat]

Hypers have good health and armor, but we do not know

[modern rover]

a tank MIGHT be able to kill them, not certain

if it were an anti-tank round... probably

[lethal moat]

Maybe an icbm

[stuck flame]

They are like massive regenerating bioweapons

[modern rover]

i mean, not bioweapons, because they aren't weapons

[lethal moat]

With the cost of insane need for food

[hallow current]

Just get the Gau-8 Avenger and it’s dead

[modern rover]

the hyper would never be viable for war because it just dies too fast and really cannot be "tamed" in any way

[lethal moat]

Hyper is probably a partially successful experiment

[stuck flame]

Indominus rex vibes

[modern rover]

I think the regeneration is the part they want

And the insane muscle growth

I imagine hyper is research into physical-based medical applications

So cuts, breaks, scratches, body development, so on

[hallow current]

Nah we gonna get some insta healing potion

[lethal moat]

So many different unanswered questions that I would sign AE’s NDA forms in order to learn

[hallow current]

Neurotenic would probably cure brain diseases like Alzheimer’s, Autism, etc

[modern rover]

Yep

[lethal moat]

We think tisso might be cosmetically related

[modern rover]

Well, apparently it can also regenerate limbs, which is important to note

[hallow current]

I think the quills on tisso could probably cure cancer

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/perfect-homelander-the-boys-gif-26742279

And then the matriarch:

Matriarch is probably my favorite creature, neuro favorite strain

[modern rover]

Isn't the matriarch more like tisso?

Constantly changing body and whatnot

[lethal moat]

I believe Dondi said they were related, let me find it

[hallow current]

what

[lethal moat]

#isle-lore-theories message

The matriarch is perfect and I love it

[hallow current]

What is the Matriarch-

[lethal moat]

Constantly evolving organism, tapwing has some unofficial art if you look it up

[modern rover]

matriarch art (fan made)

[hallow current]

What the hell

[modern rover]

all of this is the same thing btw, the matriarch evolves as it intakes more biomass

[hallow current]

Oh god

[lethal moat]

It is my favorite 👉👈

You are what you eat

[hallow current]

and it flew at some point

[modern rover]

its initial form is literally just a little goddamn bug

[hallow current]

OH HELL NAH

[lethal moat]

Every one is different depending on how it evolves as it grows and I love her

[hallow current]

wait what happens if it eats a person

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/jakethedog-adventure-time-adventuretime-beautiful-gif-7391225

We do not know

[hallow current]

Can you imagine if killed a hypo

[lethal moat]

Watch the matriarch be able to acquire strains. I want a neuro matriarch

It probably could because I believe it

[hallow current]

Yeah everything on that island is as good as dead

[lethal moat]

Do you know about the islandwalker?

[hallow current]

No?

[lethal moat]

Big

What about the echidna, the colossus, or the reaper?

[hallow current]

I know about them

Echidna is the neurotenic mastermind, the Colossus is basically King Kong, and the Reaper is a steroid infused bat

[lethal moat]

Yes

[modern rover]

might be uncanon btw

[lethal moat]

Ah well

As long as I have neuros and matriarchs that will never be turned into merchandisable plushies I will be happy

And of course, AE, because I love how they aren’t just a generic evil company like every other game

They try to do things for good, in the way they think is best, with “completely unprecedented consequences”

[acoustic osprey]

Titan Lake literally me

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-lore-theories message

[acoustic osprey]

Just as a reminder, it's likely that the Matriarch will heavily be changed in design and look

Albeit, yes, those artworks were fanmade (by Tap)

but, nonetheless, it's purpose was far different to what we have now

at least, from what we knew of it in legacy

[lethal moat]

For now, it’s all we got tho, and I’m fine with that

[hallow current]

I do like the concept of the Matriarch

[swift echo]

you forgot two

[modern rover]

listen man

i dont have all the answers

[swift echo]

ah you added the bug form but you forgot Stage 6

[swift echo]

Typhoeus

[lethal moat]

Alright, a botany company goes from food, to dinosaurs, let’s try to find the link. Food= parasites/diseases, possibly the cause of whatever crisis that may shove Apollo into the spotlight. There may be some solution on ancient plants that they bring back, and that starts the cloning habit, then they fix the problem with food crisis, they start using cloning to try and solve other problems the world is facing through some less than ethical techniques?

Also, has anybody else noticed the variety of limbs that the matriarch has in each of it’s stages, in several, it doesn’t even have symmetric front limbs, I know it’s a fan concept, but I would be interested in knowing the functionality of that

Wait, my bad, those are just extra limbs

Also, if we assume those secondary limbs never lengthened from the fourth stage and we compare it to over all body size, the final stage is easily 120+ feet long

[patent ginkgo]

I have a small idea of the same vein relating to the replicator:
Æ made it in order to more effectively/efficiently create new varieties/strains of crops in response to worsening or changing conditions for agriculture, such as climate change, diseases, or pests

Potentially the idea of new crop varieties translates over to dinosaurs somehow with the strains, though I don’t think it’s likely

[lethal moat]

That’s probably much closer

What is the practical application of the robo quetz, because surveillance would only need to be stealthy by mimicking a living creature is if the creature you are going after is smart, so unless it does a lot more, I think robo quetz is designed to keep an eye on neuros and possibly other strains

[patent ginkgo]

Probably, though I’m no expert it makes sense to me

Also keeping an eye on quetz would be easier without a massive robot imo

[lethal moat]

Right, which is why I think it has to survey from a distance, but still need to look realistic so neuros don’t emp the poor thing

[patent ginkgo]

Or it fits in with the idea that the island(s?) got evacuated and left to develop like a Petri dish, but Æ still needs to keep an eye on what’s going on without anything seeming amiss

Maybe so that gen 1s don’t try to do anything odd, or so the replicator doesn’t know, or so gen 2s act like true humans in the situation Æ wants instead of trying to get a helicopters attention or something

[lethal moat]

Whatever the purpose, it is either an experiment with cybernetics, or it was purposely designed for stealth

[acoustic osprey]

Well no
I wouldn't call them directly botany from the get go
More so food/agriculture

[lethal moat]

Yeah, some sort of disease destroying crops on a massive scale that needs a solution

[swift echo]

gene enhanced locusts from JW dominion

[lethal moat]

Something similar, but virus or something

[swift echo]

fungus

mold

[sacred radish]

NO NEWS TODAY OR ANY UPDATATES?

[lethal moat]

No, it’s usually just theories

[stuck flame]

I smell theories

Delicious theories

[honest sierra]

Hello Islecordians

How are things today

(Lore wise)

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/the-lego-movie-tlm-vitruvius-ok-okay-gif-26419102

[honest sierra]

I take that as a “nothing new”

[icy onyx]

That's the usual, I bet there will be an insane amount when gateway comes out

[honest sierra]

True

[acoustic osprey]

🙂

[acoustic osprey]

well, we know there won't be from the get-go

at least, we won't get anything related about papers and such

[lethal moat]

Right, nothing intractable, but still, human bases and possible tribal paintings oh my

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-lore-theories message
Albeit, stuff like this might be a good sign hopefully

[lethal moat]

https://tenor.com/view/jake-adventure-time-eyes-sparkle-sparkling-gif-5183369

And caves!

[acoustic osprey]

I mean, I highly doubt tribal paintings will make their way for now.
And human bases won't have much, unless you include the few boxes and such here and there

[lethal moat]

I want to see the inside of the biodomes

[acoustic osprey]

I want to see inside the domes that aren't biodomes!!

[lethal moat]

[modern rover]

i hope they ain't biodomes but something cooler

[lethal moat]

But also, GUTS will be fun

[acoustic osprey]

https://clan.cloudflare.steamstatic.com/images//10915315/2c3b2ede45958b6225bd75f538da931f54e5955f.png
Like the hexadome

[lethal moat]

All I can see is a cage fight ring

[acoustic osprey]

Hexadome being the dome makes me hope it's not just a biodome
but either an aspect of Tartarus, multiple purpose diome, or something akin to such

[lethal moat]

Also, aviary could be cool, and GUTS cave system makes me happy

[modern rover]

it's possible the domes are used to contain a portion of the ecosystem for more controlled studies

since it's harder to keep track of hundreds of assets over a massive island

[acoustic osprey]

I mean, the domes (the ones on ST Gateway Xmas) were aviary designs
So I mean, one or two might be

seeing as they were working on Drone Quetz

[lethal moat]

Could it be…
Told of only in legend…
The gateway facility???

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1088367538049650718/More_or_less_hi_how_are_you.png

seeing as there's a "botany" section

could very well be the purpose for such (the domes)

[modern rover]

honestly, mega mutated plant biome would be cooler than cold biome :P

[acoustic osprey]

Hyper Plant Botany section!!!

[lethal moat]

Let’s talk about why there is a solid line between behavioral sciences and botany?

[acoustic osprey]

Seeing as it's an abstract graph
it's likely a network graph

[lethal moat]

Because that means either tranquilizers, hallucinations, or spooky

Sads

[acoustic osprey]

which would entail that the botany section is only reachable from "I"

oh but what about the broken/dotted lines

to my own theory, that goes down in altitude/elevation to Tartarus

[lethal moat]

They all connect to the censored thing I can only assume is Tartarus

[acoustic osprey]

and/or unnamed underground facilities

[acoustic osprey]

I would assume such
At least, an Underground section that is beneath the whole island

Either that, or it's actually just a way to say that GUTS Underground Monorails connect to practically everything

excluding the three major entry points

which would make sense

[lethal moat]

None go through that entrance bit, so I’m thinking it isn’t a traversable path, maybe some sort of pneumatic system or data cable is my theory

[acoustic osprey]

well, besides G, H and D

I'm presuming as the A, B and C (the three entries) go directly towards Olympus CC
you wouldn't expect it to be linked with everything/anything willy nilly

[lethal moat]

They don’t end at the entrance though, so I think it just a representation, also, why would D, F, and L need two different dotted lines?

[acoustic osprey]

what? (with the first sentence)

[acoustic osprey]

why would D, F, and L need two different dotted lines?

likely two different routes to such

[lethal moat]

I was saying I don’t thing the lines from G, H, and D go through the entrance, and that it is just trying to use available space on the diagram

[acoustic osprey]

no, they go to A, B and C

that is not to say that A, B and C are direct "front doors"

they're, by name, three distinct areas
likely their area in reference to the Greek God it's named after

[lethal moat]

Oh, I was talking about dotted lines in that instance, my bad, you’re right, but the entrance I was talking about is that link between L and (presumably) Tartarus

I think that is the gateway facility,

[acoustic osprey]

https://gyazo.com/feeb8b0c9a62f5db82402a52d6de40fd
this?

those two?

[lethal moat]

Somewhat, not sure if the second one is a gate in the L facility or a facility in itself, but generally yeah

[acoustic osprey]

I doubt that bottom one is exactly Tartarus
more so the large bend below it (not in picture)

[lethal moat]

Right, but I don’t know if the weird bracket looking one is the gateway facility, or something inside L if L is gateway

Like the hyper gate Dondi teased back in legacy

[acoustic osprey]

the hyper gate is used in multiple sections on the map

[acoustic osprey]

which gateway facility?

[lethal moat]

The entrance to Tartarus

[lethal moat]

I know about the fence thing, but the Olympus transmitter ( no longer cannon but I like that gate) teased a massive underground gate back in legacy

[acoustic osprey]

that was in reference to PC(E)

[lethal moat]

NOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooo

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[lethal moat]

My poor soul

Very sad, anyway, some sort of big lock thing to seal away Tartarus, maybe like a sort of decontamination room between L and Tartarus

[lethal moat]

Also interested to see if any of those massive gates will be able to be closed by humans

[thin vine]

ARK aberration style dome when

[spark gull]

people when do you expect the next update to come

oops wrong channel

[slate pewter]

Get eaten

We do not know ETA

[lethal moat]

My personal guesstimate is 2-4 months

[wicked brook]

Sounds about right but I’m a little more optimistic the end of this month

[lethal moat]

They did say that there would be smaller updates more often, so hopefully! Also, living roadmaps means we can start betting on what comes out before others, I think dilo is coming down the pipes faster than we know

[hallow current]

They also said that when a dinosaur is finished they’ll release it. They won’t be gatekeeping things anymore

[lethal moat]

Very much excitements

[hallow current]

Yes

[lethal moat]

Also minuscule lore from the living roadmap, I do wonder when troodon kit will be finished though

[wicked brook]

I’m gonna bet on herra coming out next

[patent ginkgo]

Pretty sure herra isn’t until at or after gateway, cause it’ll need the trees with collision

[wicked brook]

I think it will come with gateway

[lethal moat]

Would anyone want to team up on NA servers to scour gateway for lore when it comes out?

[maiden sundial]

I'll be on Antigua

[sacred moon]

What if the isle is the isle from descendants

Think about it

[swift echo]

would the movie Rabid (2019) be something AE would be working for in the medical field?

[ionic sable]

I look away for like 10 seconds...

[quartz trail]

let him cook

think about it...

[sacred moon]

They have the same name

[quartz trail]

thats a gouda idea

go feta yourself

respectfully

anyways this is how the isle ties into the move ice age...

[crisp raven]

"We did something amazing. We brought them back. We did the impossible. But was it good? I'm starting to question that myself. They aren't normal. The behavior they exhibit are like nothing discovered through fossil records. Many of these things were said to be stupid, but what we've been seeing with our living specimens is an intelligence far greater than any other living thing on this Earth besides us. Its almost like they know exactly what's happening. They know. They're completely aware. In the past few days, many of our field stations have gone completely dark. We haven't gotten word from their operators. We've sent out some teams to figure out what happened, but even they haven't returned. I don't know whats happening here, but I think that we have done something terribly wrong. We don't even have the means to get off this stupid green rock until the end of the year. And honestly, I'm starting to doubt I'll make it."

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/ian-malcom-jurassic-park-science-could-should-gif-5197847

[stuck flame]

Jurassic park

[swift echo]

🔥

[swift echo]

us trying to understand why AE made dinosaurs

[stuck flame]

Lol

[lethal moat]

Our theories are both outlandish and possible which is why it’s is so difficult

[stuck flame]

Well everything can be true at this point

[weak crypt]

https://tenor.com/view/game-theory-gif-19232178

Someday

[swift echo]

indeed >:)

[leaden nimbus]

🥺

[acoustic osprey]

Yes, it shall be me!!!

[hushed nimbus]

T-Rex is actually Ness from Earthbound?!?!!

[young sphinx]

LORE

[jaunty summit]

I can't see a thing

[acoustic osprey]

no

[young sphinx]

It’s LOOOORREEE

[low scarab]

https://i.imgflip.com/7tfjdg.gif

game theory the isle would be insane

[lethal moat]

I agree

[modern rover]

that's lightclaw's duty

if Game Theory ever finds out about The Isle, there will be a war between lightclaw and MatPat

[lethal moat]

*doom music starts playing

At what point does the NDA include expatriation, like how much is knowing too much?

[low scarab]

an nda isnt abt how much you know its about how much you say

[ionic sable]

Probably any role that would require being on-site, or being in direct contact with those who would. (Shipping, general management, etc.)

[lethal moat]

Imagine just being a forklift operator and having your soul threatened by your employer

[ionic sable]

Forklift operator on the Island itself.

Honestly, for how much they would pay for that, I'd sign the contract.

[low scarab]

just casually moving boxes for some food company and your employer offers to sacrifice you to some freaky machine

[low scarab]

thousand life contract lol

https://tenor.com/view/forklift-spinning-funny-gif-18559129

[ionic sable]

Don already shut that down.

I'm guessing the regular employee contract and the Thousand life contract are two different things.

And I will proceed assuming as much.

[low scarab]

im just joking lol

but what is the thousand life contract

i mean the song is awesome

but didnt don say it didnt relate to being sacrificed to the replicator

[ionic sable]

I'll take the meaning at face value

[low scarab]

i wont die not knowing the meaning of the thousand life contract

[low scarab]

what if people become part of the replicator

and thats somehow its consciousness

[lethal moat]

Interesting theory, I prefer the ai doing what it’s programmed to do, but AE can’t stop it since they aren’t on site

[low scarab]

i thought it was confirmed its an ai

[low scarab]

that could maybe answer thousand life contract

they advertise "become a god" and the goal is to merge you with the replicator to create freaky monsters and such

[acoustic osprey]

that was akin to EIPs

[low scarab]

EIP?

[acoustic osprey]

but no.
I don't believe the replicator would want other people apart of her

[low scarab]

even in conscious like glados or even the personality cores attached to her yk

[low scarab]

her? we know its gender

[acoustic osprey]

akin to such, yes

[acoustic osprey]

minds being put into dinos

very iffy on that, personally was very weird

[low scarab]

that would imply it was human once no? bc how would a robot have a sex

[acoustic osprey]

No

things can have gender without being humans

both in language and in slang
"My boat, she's great" etc

[low scarab]

i dont hate the idea tbh because it would answer partly the hyper intelligence

[acoustic osprey]

or romance languages (commonly) having a male/female indicator to express about "x" thing (wine being female, etc)

[low scarab]

true true

gotcha

[acoustic osprey]

aye

[lethal moat]

*shivers in French language

[zealous galleon]

I got a isle theory
so you know how the hypos would be seen and then disappear
What if the hypos died but they get transported to the future and us the players see them
and then they disappear because of the time paradox
because if they were to stay there they would be erased from existence

[patent ginkgo]

Æ made them, so I don’t think that works

Also *hypers

[gaunt kite]

Whats the difference between hypers and hypos?

[lethal moat]

Hyper is the proper name, but it is the same thing

[strange shell]

That's not a hyper, that's Tracer from Overwatch

[icy onyx]

Get Matpat on the case

[steel summit]

Hyper means big while Hypo means small

[thin vine]

so basically the borealis from HL2?

tldr, they made a ship that was supposed to teleport, but instead of just teleporting through space, it also teleports through time. its an interesting thought but i doubt it

[vale garden]

that looks amazing

[lethal moat]

I will continue to preach matriarch and neuro supremacy for as long as we don’t know their major drawbacks

[swift echo]

my two favorite strains

[lethal moat]

I’m pretty sure matriarch is it’s own thing that is related to the tisso strain

[swift echo]

we should start calling stuff that isn't a Type, like the Hypers (Strains) assets instead.

[lethal moat]

Seems like a good idea

[acoustic osprey]

It's not even a strain!!!!

[swift echo]

asset

[low scarab]

is there a difference between mercenaries and gen 2

and were the gen 2 created

[pale marsh]

Gen 2 are presumed created
And mercenary is what we used to call gen2 before they had a name (iirc)

But they arent mercs anymore

[low scarab]

so they are the same

[pale marsh]

Effectively yea

[low scarab]

and used in the ae work force

[pale marsh]

It would seem so. But we have little in the way of actual answers

[low scarab]

ok

whats the tree of life

and whats so important abt guts

is it bc it might be connected to tartarus bc isnt in greek mythology tartarus like hell for the titans

or like prison

which would prob be underground

what do we know abt strain trees

also any more ideas abt thousand life contract

i did not expect to get this invested when i read through this channel

[lethal moat]

It sucks you in

[swift echo]

aye you guys remember when ppl were talking abt what AE would do if you spill

[lethal moat]

"Expatriation"

[low scarab]

the lore is so freaky and horrifying

[lethal moat]

yep

[lethal moat]

Basically life imprisonment

[low scarab]

i love it something that is original and less jump scare and evil company or mentally unwell person

did anyone think abt this regarding tissoplastic strains

[lethal moat]

We think it just grows back limbs

[low scarab]

i mean it tisso seems like its a plant with some sort of medical use which would kind of make sense

[patent ginkgo]

Tisso is just short for tissoplastic

[low scarab]

ik

[pale marsh]

Tisso I assume refering to tissue
Plastic I assume referring to plasticity or whatever the word is

And that in the past atleast
It had camo

[low scarab]

but what does tisso mean

[low scarab]

ahhhhh that makes sense

[pale marsh]

I assume it's thang is manipulating its own body
Minimum like an octopus would

[patent ginkgo]

Think autonomous plastic surgery

But less surgery-y

[pale marsh]

But
Afaik tisso has been reworked since what little we saw back in legacy

So who really knows what the strain will do
Atleast in game

All we know is what it would have been for medically in the lore

That being regrowth of limbs and such

[low scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-angry-rabid-gif-20257620

looking for lore.

btw very old news however

what is that massive tower thing and what is that massive freaky looking tree

that tree looks significantly larger than it should

especially when it looks close to the height of this thing

[lethal moat]

All I can think of is some un-climable radio tower, where in tarnation are these from?

[low scarab]

https://youtu.be/pNJbbshy500?t=130

timestamped*

[lethal moat]

Nice

[low scarab]

don never said what they were only said there was a good reason for them

and its from legacy which might change things

[lethal moat]

This stuff looks similar to what dondi gave us in phase three, wonder if anything else is being reused

Also, old hyper gates

[low scarab]

also plus I like this map feel, color, and look more than any other isle map yet

[lethal moat]

Also, simple crafting

[low scarab]

bro at this rate its sad but solid to say its gonna be a long time before we get close to the horror game we are looking for

[lethal moat]

Idk man, once humans are in officials, it's gonna get real creepy at night

[low scarab]

ik but I want to be unable to sleep because I feel like something is watching me I want to have nightmares abt ae and the replicator and these freaky creations I want them in game and finished

but dont we all....

time is quite painful sometimes

[lethal moat]

We don't know much yet, so it's hard to be too scared of something we don't know

[low scarab]

exactly

all im saying is we need to start getting this game in the direction of horror

its just not that scary rn you know

[lethal moat]

Also, the map will probably help

[low scarab]

https://i.imgflip.com/7tfjdg.gif

[acoustic osprey]

Iron Belly stuff was a mixture of 50/50 for me

some things were good
some things should be taken as ideas for tribals
some things were a bit over the topic and uneeded

but the human, gen2, stuff (especially the aviary) were great

mostly

[acoustic osprey]

very old stuff.
Some from Iron Belly

[young sphinx]

Miss the days when concept art was shared

[acoustic osprey]

(this was 8 years ago)

and done by an external company

[low scarab]

does dondi talking abt this not confirm the plant strains at least for legacy lore

[acoustic osprey]

Don has talked about strain plants

[low scarab]

anywhere else he has brought them up

also he said they were derived from the same strains that created dinosaurs

[acoustic osprey]

I can't remember when

But, we have a botany section
Best to assume "strain" (or akin) plants are still possible

[low scarab]

i hope so they sound awesome

[acoustic osprey]

yes

most certainly

[lethal moat]

Hyper sundew plant

[sonic rampart]

Are these lore theories?

[fallow harbor]

OH SHOOT

im sorry i thought i was in #isle-discussion

sorry

[sonic rampart]

Nw!

[maiden viper]

I think that dinosaurs during egg-laying they had a break in their genes, and instead of a small dinosaur, a human was born. Then in each egg a new human life was born and that's how the dinosaurs died out.

[lethal moat]

For sure

[pale marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/blinking-eyes-white-guy-blinking-meme-what-huh-gif-26334322

[maiden viper]

There's really no big bang, the first humans hid the fact that the dinosaurs were our ancestors so that mankind wouldn't be afraid of the next gene mutation.

[ruby juniper]

I am not sure if this is a joke, a troll, a bait or dead serious

[maiden viper]

its just theories

[pale marsh]

Could be any
Or perhaps all of the above

[maiden viper]

or we living in matrix

in a computer graphic that some high school kid from another world that's not like us created.

anything is possible

[acoustic osprey]

Well, no but similiar
We have a common ancestor to all dinosaurs

but that common ancestor split MANY millions of years ago

But, this is not The Isle but #paleotalk
If you're curious on human evolution through paleo links with dinosaurs, you can always ask anyone in there

[low scarab]

whats so important abt guts
is it bc it might be connected to tartarus bc isnt in greek mythology tartarus like hell for the titans
or like prison
which would prob be underground

what do we know abt strain trees
also any more ideas abt thousand life contract

also whats the tree of life

lol just a lil curious

[acoustic osprey]

Well, Tartarus is the underground "prison"
most titans inhabit it after losing Titanomachy (Titans vs Olympians)
Tartarus was made a prison ||a hell, if you're a Western-based Theologian in mindset||
and Titans, and other monsters (including humans deemed for punishment- akin to King Sisyphus) are entrapped there by the Olympians

^ Greek Mythology

different for The Isle Lore though

but:
GUTS =/= Tartarus

[kindred bobcat]

what hapend to the PC lore thingy?

[acoustic osprey]

GUTS is very important as it allows for transport amongst the island easily

[acoustic osprey]

Gone.
Don doesn't want it to be connected with Primal anymore; Therefore no more Magnas, Phoenix International, anything related to it

[low scarab]

and what makes that so important

[kindred bobcat]

so no more of this guy?

[lethal moat]

No

[acoustic osprey]

Allows easier and more confined "human" spaces to transport from point "A" to "B" on a dinosaur inhabited island
Includes monorails for fast travel
and many dirt roads
Large tunnels for hauling larger pieces of cargo

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah, no longer.
Unless Don want's it back in another way/shape/form

[low scarab]

but how is this important lore wise and larger peices of cargo meaning live animals or just resources

[kindred bobcat]

so like don said no more primal cranage The Isle is compleltey stand alone?

[lethal moat]

Yes

[acoustic osprey]

Well, that depends on your view on what makes something important.
But for what we know:

• Gateway is a gateway to Tartarus
• Tartarus, which is likely a special facility of some sort, is likely underground ||hence the name, Tartaurs||
• Therefore, you need to get to Tartarus somehow

how might you get into Tartarus if it's supposed to be in a confined area? GUTS

[acoustic osprey]

aye

[low scarab]

ahhhhhh see I didnt think gateway was related to tartarus

[acoustic osprey]

In reality, we don't know if this is properly true yet.
But if GUTS truly is "general" is connects everything to everything

Which makes GUTS, technically, very important for humans

[acoustic osprey]

aye

[low scarab]

and what is the meaning of the thousand life contract and how are people sacrificed but still alive dondi said something abt doing everything you can do in one life

[acoustic osprey]

no true definition.
Thousand Life Contract is very old and may not likely come back / or it may not be as significant as we may have thought it will be

originally, in Legacy, it was likely that Thousand Life Contract was connected to EIPs

being, putting minds into dinosaurs

[low scarab]

and are eip still cannon and what does it stand for

[acoustic osprey]

no
Embryo Intelligence Profile

practically a mind
and often referred to as "Profiles"

[low scarab]

damn so that lore has been dropped for good

[acoustic osprey]

if you see the term "Profiles" in legacy, this is what they are referred to

[kindred bobcat]

GUTS seems so cool i feel like it could become like a alien isolation stuff where your getting chased and flee into a transportation thingy and i bet there will be some cool lore on those trans maybe like posters or stuff people forgot like documents and such

[low scarab]

ahhhhh ok

[acoustic osprey]

For what we know, that aspect of legacy lore won't come back

[low scarab]

so then what makes the dinosaurs so intelligent

[acoustic osprey]

stuck in a tunnel 😊
nothing scary will obviously happen

[low scarab]

that sucks legacy lore was awesome but not all of it right? like some is still cannon

[kindred bobcat]

open the doors to see a nice little carno sayin hello

[acoustic osprey]

in Legacy, minds (which were the EIPs).
But this will likely be ignored as, through the Isle Official Channels' trail observations cameras we see dinosaurs acting pretty "normal"

like, EIPs were a bit meta

[low scarab]

ok why was this dropped any idea?

[acoustic osprey]

likely didn't fit Evrima's lore
or Don hasn't revisited it yet

[low scarab]

makes sense somewhat cliche

[acoustic osprey]

yeah.
Albeit, it was interesting.
As the "Profiles" were actually steam players (people who played the game)

but, that fit more smaller niche indie games

[low scarab]

true I would like to see this game become at least a bit more mainstream when we get some more horror elements and an overall more polished game

[acoustic osprey]

it made lore feel more "connected" in terms of being related to the player
BUT it was never progressed further

so, Don couldn't actually explore it properly

[low scarab]

gotcha

[acoustic osprey]

being that Legacy pretty much halted after 2018 finished

[acoustic osprey]

Aye, very much so.
Seeing Don's new messages about Gateways' lore feels fun

[low scarab]

which honestly was really sad I loved the direction legacy was headed yk minus the jankyness

[acoustic osprey]

from what he has said, it'll be very interactive and, at times, random

Don saying you gotta be a certain location at "X" time, weather and playable, etc etc

[low scarab]

agreed I really hope this game doesnt stray far from the idea it was built on

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-lore-theories message
which is the most PAINFUL thing with finding lore, but, sounds VERY cool

[low scarab]

interesting.... don is very vague sometimes though

[acoustic osprey]

Aye, I still want the basis of the game's lore to still be akin to legacy/pre-legacy

[lethal moat]

Why I'm making my friends help me look

[low scarab]

yes the idea of strain trees and things really has me exited

[kindred bobcat]

is everyting in the doucment by isaac up to date and is the things that are like crosed over not lore anymore? thx in advanace

[low scarab]

do we have anything on plant strains? other than them brutally killing you

[lethal moat]

Yes

[acoustic osprey]

ok guys, this is a game called "The Isle" (2015 by Afterthought LLC)
I need YOU GUYS to run around 24/7 with random playables to HELP me find something within The Isle's lore

Thanks!

[acoustic osprey]

Nothing much.
The artworks never gave much info and nor has the game

[lethal moat]

We know there is botany connected to behavorial studies

[lethal moat]

My friends who already play the isle

[acoustic osprey]

Yes.
There are some things that need to be added (like Matriarch and Tisso info) but it's all up to date with Evrima canon

[acoustic osprey]

get all your friends 😊

[low scarab]

I really hope we hear more on the botany stuff you can really make some cool stuff with some freaky alien plants that may or may not have some form of behavior and intellegence

[acoustic osprey]

they will love the isle too!!

[acoustic osprey]

honestly, I want to know more on everything on this list as well
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1088367538049650718/More_or_less_hi_how_are_you.png

like, WHAT truly are these.
https://gyazo.com/a1a6e1f788e08309aced04941b0592ac

and, why is it Tartarus!?

[low scarab]

very exiting

what is the tree of life

[acoustic osprey]

good question

I got a comment on one of my youtube videos, I'll send my answer

[low scarab]

ok

[acoustic osprey]

it's a fundamental archetype seen in a lot of religions, this especially akin to the Jewish/Hebrew tree of life (the Kabbalah)

well I believe I referred to the tree of life in reference to the Abstract Graph Glance Reference Document sent in The Isle Phase three channel. Mostly that this graph has a striking resemblance to the actual jewish tree of life

[low scarab]

have you made any videos explaining lore

your lightclaw or something right

[acoustic osprey]

ha, I want to.
But, too soon honestly

[acoustic osprey]

aye

I will be doing more live streams just discussing about it.
But I want to make an "Isle Basics" video

Evrima lore is very close to make the video actually sizeable

[kindred bobcat]

so the matriarch is still a thing but what about the big guy that had a conept thingy back in the day where he ripped out a chunky from a big boi or something i dont fully rember

[lethal moat]

Colussus

[low scarab]

colossus?

[acoustic osprey]

Colossus is back, yes

[kindred bobcat]

isent that the guy on the bottom of titans lake?

[lethal moat]

Thats the islandwalker

[acoustic osprey]

no, that's an island walker

[low scarab]

all the strain mascots are still cannon right

[acoustic osprey]

the whole trinity, yes

[low scarab]

and the echidna is supposed to be mother of cannibals any info on that

[acoustic osprey]

Well, a lot more than the other two

[lethal moat]

She has mimicry

[acoustic osprey]

cannibals (Tribals)

[lethal moat]

In addition to otyher suspected neuro abilities

[acoustic osprey]

She is very much akin to a siren, where she is able to perfectly replicate a voice of a human (dead or alive) and transmit it as if she was a human

[kindred bobcat]

a what now?

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-lore-theories message

Imagine if it was more interpreted like a siren, capable of mimicking only voices it heard. The distress signals that come from the short-range communication on the island, and the voices heard in transmissions are from already deceased individuals that are now being used as lures.

[acoustic osprey]

yes, exactly.
All we know is it has a name

very old lore, don't expect any of that to come back
like Primordial

[kindred bobcat]

https://youtu.be/dncngJKIUmE?t=268 is this bit still accurate

like the time stamp

[lethal moat]

Partially

[acoustic osprey]

user inquiries are all old and likely not canon
but the basis of them might be accurate/similar

[kindred bobcat]

man i havent focused on lore since like 2021 all i rember are small bits like that hypos are just gmo stuff and the colosus is a guy who grows from like the size of juvi utah to a gigant and stuff like that and smt abt the matriarch being neuro something

[acoustic osprey]

User Inquiry: Reaper
Tissoplastic regenerative tissue placed inside of a human subject.
Initial results proved fatal.
Doctor Vega perfected and coined the term of his first success on September 7, 2004.
There are 12 active specimens

User Inquiry: Colossus I do not have files on this, but I can see it is active within Tartarus. Someone has erased subject files.

User Inquiry: Echidna Neurotenic abnormalities generated inside of a human specimen. Subject Location: Unknown Status: Missing.

[low scarab]

so this is the tree of life

[acoustic osprey]

do note that the strains are now orientated on a more "medicinal" route

[lethal moat]

Matriarch and neuro are the perfect lifeforms

[acoustic osprey]

well, in design, it looks like "the tree of life"

[kindred bobcat]

arent they blind?

[lethal moat]

Neuro's possibly

We don't know

[kindred bobcat]

is dr vega still a thing? or are they scrapped

[low scarab]

and so does this sort of make the idea that the matriarch and colossus are in Tartarus a lot more probable

[low scarab]

ok

also what is the deal with strain plants "taking parts of you that you didnt know you had"

[kindred bobcat]

whats tartarus? theres nothing about it in the document

[acoustic osprey]

Vega was an old artist and was turned lore
I doubt he will come back as a proper character- maybe a cameo

[low scarab]

a prison for the titans

in greek mythology

[acoustic osprey]

well, there was one reference

[kindred bobcat]

soooo for the hypos and stuff in the isle? and its in gateway somewhere

[acoustic osprey]

but Tartarus has no true basis yet in Isle lore yet
We know practically nothing.

Besides that Tartarus is within Gateway (gateway is a gateway to tartarus)

[acoustic osprey]

it may be a "special" facility; maybe a facility they made strains in

which, ironically, makes it a prison- entrapping the strains to an underground area they were created in

[low scarab]

and what were the legacy broadcasts abt do not pass gateway

[kindred bobcat]

i feel like update 1.0 will come before the lore is even near done in this

[low scarab]

I think the lore will very well be more complete by 1.0

[acoustic osprey]

never truly elaborated further
but it's likely that gateway in legacy was practically "Gateway (Evrima)" but on a smaller level.

Likely a small area that is the ONLY way to get into Tartarus

akin to this

[lethal moat]

A good anount of the lore will have to be found

[low scarab]

taken the game is nowhere near 1.0

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/agree-nye-bill-science-yes-ok-gif-8342837

[kindred bobcat]

maybe they are referring to the gateway into tartarus and not the map itself otherwise we might be screwed

[acoustic osprey]

depends on Kissen and the crew I guess (being that she is the producer)

[kindred bobcat]

also will all dinos get hypos or just the 3 carni apexes and carno like in legacy

[acoustic osprey]

only carnis can be Hypers

but we don't know how many hypers there will be

[low scarab]

and so dondi talked abt why people would want to sacrifice themselves to the replicator and abt how it plays favorites he said you would want to please it and at some point you have accomplished all you can in one life so how does one have more than one life

[acoustic osprey]

they won't be sacrificing themselves

Tribals will be sacrificing things to The Replicator

[low scarab]

I thought dondi said something abt people wanting to be sacrificed

[acoustic osprey]

very old

but we know that Tribals, the only things that do sacrifice to The Replicator, won't kill themselves for her
but rather other things

[swift echo]

AYE BRO I NEED AN EXPLANTION ON THAT!!

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/dolittle-yoshi-roaring-polar-bear-roar-gif-26039446

[kindred bobcat]

like other dinos

[acoustic osprey]

No, we only know that Primordial exists as a name in legacy lore!!!

[acoustic osprey]

that and/or Gen2s

[kindred bobcat]

my brain is melting wtf has dondi been cocking for the last 8 years

[acoustic osprey]

but, I see both being better

[low scarab]

so what happened to sacrificing yourself to become something more powerful

[acoustic osprey]

who knows.
A bit of a silly idea- nothing in isle lore allows something to come back from life (yet)

[low scarab]

nightmare fuel

[acoustic osprey]

^

[low scarab]

maybe they thought they could

[swift echo]

all I have abt it is a screenshot of Dondi twitch chat]

[acoustic osprey]

yep 🙂

[acoustic osprey]

maybe.
but still, maybe they could somehow.

Maybe they will sacrifice afterwards

but for now, not yet

you'll be sacrificing others!!

[low scarab]

https://tenor.com/view/omg-hell-gif-13171534

[acoustic osprey]

or even other Tribals ||being that they are cannibals||

[kindred bobcat]

ima go to sleep i hope i don't dream some weird the isle lore stuff, thx for the info i feel like i closed one or two question marks i had abt the lore after not touching it since lockdown but i think i got some more ? and even werider ? than before

[acoustic osprey]

ciao ciao

[lethal moat]

I just want to know more about the replicator and all it’s benefits in general, don’t care about the method, just curious he result

[lethal moat]

Always more questions

[acoustic osprey]

no worries
I will try and answer any and all questions if need be if you have any others in the future

[swift echo]

i had to scroll through tons of crap to find this

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/wall-e-disney-sad-robot-bored-gif-24019129

[low scarab]

whats the primordial

[acoustic osprey]

quite funny really

• Primordials enters chat
• leaves without literally doing anything:
  - #isle-lore-theories in 2018 🤯

[acoustic osprey]

don't even ask that's all we got, a name

AND if we did get any other mentions of it
it will 100% be on Don's streams from 2018

Which no one can access

and no one has archived them anywhere else

[swift echo]

next time don pops in here for a lore drop we gotta ask him abt that

[low scarab]

that sucks

[acoustic osprey]

I will if I remember lol, I'll try

[acoustic osprey]

truly.
I WISH Don could just drop in and give us everything on Legacy lore.

[swift echo]

bru I was just typing that

[acoustic osprey]

Despite how much I dislike aspects of legacy lore, it was one of the major things that brought me in here (Humans)

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/spiderman-defoe-respect-gif-24551385

[acoustic osprey]

we'll likely never know the end of Legacy lore.
hopefully we have more on Evrima; And in which the beginning starts with Gateway (in terms of understanding isle lore a lot more)

[low scarab]

he probably wont because he wants to keep a chunk of it

[swift echo]

also I did this a while ago but could bullet trains be in GUTS?

[low scarab]

what we need is another lore dump but he seems busy making the game suck less

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/the-princess-bride-relationship-damper-stressed-climbing-gif-6147552

[acoustic osprey]

Well, we know monorails exist
I highly doubt we'll get bullet trains on Gateway, at least

saying that, Bullet Trains, I can only imagine, would consume a lot of power and be quite dangerous for cargo

especially since they likely are transporting dinos/dino-goods/strain-stuff on the GUTS

[swift echo]

ye but for humans perhaps

[acoustic osprey]

it's a bit of an inconvenience to have such

especially with wear-and-tear

[swift echo]

ja and very expensive as you said

but it would be cool to have a Hyper rex run up and chomp on it

[acoustic osprey]

cool idea, a bit too modern for such and bit too painful to properly have it properly functional and worth while(in-lore)

[acoustic osprey]

very lol

[low scarab]

on the topic of strain stuff

how did strains come abt and why create strains in the first place

and how did they start testing on humans

[lethal moat]

The answer to both your questions is yes, and as for the bullet train, I doubt it since they take time to get up to speed, and that speed seems impractical for such a small system, more likely some sort of average train

[pale marsh]

We know AE used/uses strains for medical purposes
The how and why of strains, is still a mystery

[acoustic osprey]

^

[pale marsh]

Also
Question
Do we know if AE is still performing the "tests" we see in game and gateway + whatever other canon islands/maps are an isolated instance, or is all of it behind AE and now they're playing clean up

[low scarab]

lol I didnt bring up the trains but why even make plant strains in the first place

and I want more plant strain concept art so bad

like that freaky tree I sent earlier I need itttt

[low scarab]

that answers it

[pale marsh]

I want that massive hyper tree in the old concept

[low scarab]

this

[pale marsh]

We don't actually know if AE made strains tho
Do note

[low scarab]

its amazing imagine if we got this in one of gateways biodomes 👀

[low scarab]

???

[pale marsh]

But there's an old concept with a tree

[sly merlin]

Lore, is just full of lore.

[pale marsh]

That is ungodly huge
Blue people avatar size tree

[low scarab]

I need more

I need that juice lore

[pale marsh]

Yea we know AE uses strains for medicine
But we don't know if they MADE them

[low scarab]

its so ominous and terrifying

I just want more drawings of them

[sly merlin]

Lore, is spoken much about yet never confirmed. That’s where the loophole begins.

[pale marsh]

I cant find the giant tree concept art >:[

[lethal moat]

Possibly replicator made strains

[acoustic osprey]

We do

even if The Replicator "made" strains, they're still made by AE

as one says "Apple" makes their iPhones
despite being manufactured by third parties in asia

even then, I highly doubt The Replicator is some sort of FLDSMDFR

well, even then, it may be some sort of FLDSMDFR

rather than "creating", it only produces given instructions

hence "replicating" (replicator)

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/the-lego-movie-lord-business-what-a-bunch-of-hippie-dippie-baloney-bunch-of-baloney-president-business-gif-22326385

[sly merlin]

It’s true tho

[acoustic osprey]

But, we can come to the agreement that strains are made by AE
As Don said they're for medicinal reasons; I don't believe Replicator would just be making them because she wants to for medicine

[acoustic osprey]

you will explode in 3

[sly merlin]

Still here

[sly merlin]

Yea

Strains are a huge mess

[acoustic osprey]

you assume 3 in your mortal eyes

[acoustic osprey]

mess? In terms of lore? Not really

[sly merlin]

Nah not lore just there own thing