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k so strains ar for medicine therefore we can assume that’s why they made dino’s to begin with, to experiment with genetic?
So excited to be Indiana jones for lore
ah
Time, species, location.
but then why throw them in a island
Also, is the new discord name literally just "m"?
hey don humans getting that sweet auto rifle?
islands are remote ans isolated
but where the gates? they just realesed them
I'm going to test one but I feel it'll be way too strong in the hands of capable players.
put something anywhere on the mainland and the chances of a containment breach skyrockets
Oh can you say which gun specifically you’re looking at?
there are gates, on Gateway
A part of me could care less about the dinosaurs and just wants gun stuff lol
Will there be some sort of Easter egg or reward if you were to collect them all?
Mainly thinking of a cutscene but I don’t know if that will be a thing
maybe making it a rare finding on a structure would work?
Procompy in JP novel
(Not even the name drop will survive the purge.)
Different names, similar lore.
lol
If aquatics are entering
Surely they'll have some sort of interaction with the outside world, the ocean isn't a barrier for them like with terrestrials
time and facility function seem to have a lot of deep ties, don was keen on pointing out the schedule of the lights on installations and what they keep away. this is likely unrelated but i haven't seen how it ties in yet exactly.
so they all broke out?
semi aquatics could only go so far, full marine life, idk
well
We're getting full marine life
Speaking of UI, dusted off the UE project recently, would I be able to take up your offer to get some lines of code sometime in the near future? 
i prefer to live in denial until i can think of something
Can't honestly tell you how it (mechanically) ends. I know what the end is and it's taken care of.
are there multiple of those humans strains? and those are only experimental? they plan on applying knowledge to cure deseases?
But unsure of how to put that presentation forward for players yet.

Will we have riddles/clues to know such?
Or just simply relying on good old chance
Isle novel
Big fan of the second.
Please have a database and physical records available to the player in the main menu 
Not a big fan of the second
There are definitely really cool stories I don't have the time to dedicate to, but at a glance were really enjoyable to frame.
Also query systems, boy do I love a good query terminal.
Would be cool to have a whole map experience or for the people but that would prolly be annoying after awhile idk
I’m just excited
I like puzzle solving, although I now see the trouble of people just finding the answers online
gen2 gameplay and this stuff really intrigues me, very much looking forward to it
glance
I mean, I pitch wild things regularly. I have pitched "the end" if someone were to reach it, to give the option to permanently shut off official server support as "the objective is completed."
can't wait for the dossier, if ever to exist
k so botanic is because of food strains are to cure sickness and the dinos were just the step to start a strain campaign? like they tested what could they do

But server wipe could be fun
Oh hey Dondi
How accurate is this ?
hopefully you can't just stumble upon it randomly, if it ever were to exist
i can only imagine Jeff with 2 hours on the game walking in and finding such 
Oh no, the way to get there is pain.
I'm not the best at programming, but I did manage to toss together a simple "security level" system, where you could raise your access level unlocking more queries available in the main terminal.
Quite proud of that one.
scary
lost for words, quite really.
Please don't underestimate the determination of people
And admins can already server wipe so that's irrelevant. If it's not something no one else can do, why let them do something at all.
sweet
I do not, whatsoever. I fully believe people would. I'm just curious what their choice would be. That obviously wasn't the only one for that particular idea.
im lowwkey hoping, some abandoned facilities could have enemy ai tha are meant to be failed expirements for gen2 to either combat, or avoid in order to reach documentation or loot
pull the server ending lever, kronk
I want some of those to be weak failures that make people feel pity
some weak, some very threatening
Fair, but if you choose not to shut off the server would you get anything else?
like, deformed freaks only barely recognizable as say, an omni raptor, to, idk, tissoplasic prototypes or whatver
Or human
sacrificed to The Replicator
omniraptor is already a deformed freak
the touch grass button
those to
There were ideas.
That could be a cool if there was like a death animation for it, or maybe you can get a lil clone buddy that murders and betrays you
it wasn't an option
Speaking of abandoned facilities.
Even on that leaked map of Gateway that was found ages ago, there was a distinct lack of structures.
I always kinda assumed that Gateway was going to be like the hub for all AE activities, but the amount of structures, lack of major labs, lack of lodging etc. Is kinda weird.
Begs the question of how important is Gateway actually?
So if humans are trying to shut off the server, it would be an objective of the dinos to stop them
this actually reminds me, im so glad don[di] showed the concept art for the customizable gen1, cuz i was so scared theyd all look something like this, [cuz that one model]
It was said that there will be some other maps in the future I believe lemme find it, but maybe each map you get closer and closer to the truth or something, that would be very cool
Don't worry. They don't all look like that image I showed you, either.
freaky oni thing without eyelids > sloth from the goonies
was about to say Sloth
Yeah but Gateway has been mentioned so many times across old and new lore that I kinda figured it was a cornerstone island.
thats good, i was worried there wouldnt be too much variation
good to know they'll have some customisation, sounds really cool
you mentioned it!!
There we go.

It's not the hub.
will that customization extend to body type for gen1? maybe effecting gameplay? or just the face/appearance
gen1 are what i most look forward to
Not affecting gameplay.

figures, but still cool
interesting to see with Tartarus connection on Gateway
hi Stan
Also feeling the need to mention that Light's lore doc is probably gonna double in size.
so the cannibal is the same thing as the colossus the neuro human thing?
I need the lads to remain the same for their gameplay.
you can guess what I'm doing tonight
fair fair
Gen 1 climbing capabilities: how good are they at it. I must know, because for some reason I have an infatuation with climbing.
Sleep? 
Uh, yes
Did you see funny tribal artwork, Stan?
I did
I'm doing this just for you, big guy.
They climb really well.
you like?
can we say the same with The Eyeless?
“nah i don’t feel like rn” though he’d say that
I mean, really well.
On god? For real? This is good news.
Woah
LETS GOOOOOOO
omg, wow, i hate it, thank you for this
^
Blind man rock climbing, sounds exciting.
oooh monkey feet
give funny physics when hit tree
damn what is this from? can i get more feet pics
now i envision a gen1 throwing a spear with its feet
It better bounce when it hits the floor.
lol
I'm going to flesh out some more ideas with them before I can answer that with honesty.
Unless you want to also count these guys as eyeless because I mean...
Fair, have to wait!
eyeless looking skull
man i have so many questions about tribals but its mostly gameplay and this is lore theory channel
what’s gen 1
Are the eyeless things just a cosmetic version of the gen1 or their own thing
Return to monke has been taken too seriously
DON THIS IS SO COOL
i gotta study more isle lore
Again, I said customizable for a reason.
HOLY
Jesus
OOOOOOOHHHH
handsome
I am curious of one thing, Apollo has manipulated or tried to recreate the human genome obviously.
But I wonder how far Apollo has dived down the neuroscience route.
man i hope theyre even more grotesque once in game
I look forward to the customization for sure
oh man is that a hole all the way through 
Woah, do these different customizations have different functions or just aesthetic?
On the topic of gen1 cosmetic, will there be a return for “big bubba” ?
Hello there
Probably never.
lol


Why did so many people ambush lore chat all of a sudden 
Are we talking about Tribals?
ok ok i gotta ask, gen1 being able to build human effigys out of either other gen1, or gen2 theyve killed? like heads on spikes, crucifixes??
howdy White Falcon
Gen 1 concept art for phase 3?
I been lurking for a while now
House Bolton Tribal playthrough?
@cinder atlas punching the air rn
Rip bubba
I'm happy and honoured to see Dondi ere
He's known for a long time.
no more bubba
GOD YES, blood eagles to?? i love me a good blood eagle
That was one of my favorite parts of the tribal concept. 
figures as he never tells me anything (he is doing his job)
Aye Dondi, can you tell us anything planned about Tribal villages?
Or they will live in a cave
And why not a village in a cave ?
I was gonna ask more questions about Apollo's corporate structure.
But y'know what, Tribal talk is cool too.
why not bro let’s go
Aye
why not cave in village
To be fair, a cave isn't the worst idea as long as it has several exits.
i should be sleeping but now im too hyped
True
I want to make myself a cave-shaped village
build around and inside the cave
I want a flare in the near future.
So bad.
I cannot understate the desire to have a flare.
Workshopping some ideas to let them build overtop human structures.
Possibility for hallucinations
troodon cave hive
You are thinking ahead of me.
Flares are a thing.
Horde hideout
I believe Punch has talked about flares
Ah, there you go
the hive mother's chambers
has it been stated gen1 will get crafting? like tools/weapons/clothing?
@hoary scroll The Troodon dream is alive.
You know what tribals really need ?
A stegosaurus-shaped village so gen2 let them inside their facility and they can kill them all from inside
Hoping for illumination flares
Ultra basic.
So they will be able to build ...
Interesting
Thank you.
opening transition should also come
can anyone please sum to me what’s gen1
HOLY POG
100%
Crafting out of dinosaur parts maybe ?
all this gen 1 stuff is gonna keep me alive that much longer; I will [attempt] to find the isle and survive it
And people.
dang, id sell my soul for in depth crafting
I believe Lightning lights up the area it strikes in?
So, this could be a definite possibility
oh neat
Dinosaur part?
bone club bone club bone club 
come back to see the coolest Gen 1 convo ever hell yea
What do you means by part 
Yeah like in Monster Hunter
But you swap the fire-breathing t-rex with a regular t-rex
Bones, teeth, claws, scales, etc.
you see the art?
human bone club to hit humans
(Begone spoiler.)
Will there be anything new for humans in update 7 or can't say
damn RIGHT I saw the art
i want to make my horrid little skullman
Okay.
Hello superlunary
its been a cornerstone since the beginning lol
is apollo trying to upgrade or recreate humans? or both
I meant lore wise, not scene wise.
it has been a thing lore wise tho
and now both 
A thing, but not a major thing.
I wonder if Gen 1s are still super tall and not to be trifled with due to their size alone
I think they are rather just test subjects.
You know history.
There were many dark human experiences during the Cold War

they better!
yeah but test subjects as they tested things on humans or made them from scratch
truly badass and I’m all for it
We come up to their lower shoulder.
nice
Are they still in the 9ft ballpark?
Gen 1 being a Godless abomination that can clamper up any surface, build effigies of gore and death, and create horrid little villages for their wretched kind is exctly the vibe I was hoping for and I am endlessly glad this is intact
You didn't catch my drift.
People in the Cuban project were born with genetic strains preinjected before birth
Ballpark.
k, upgrade it is
Cuban project was bugging about genetic manipulation
Writing about gen 1s kinda makes me sad since we don't have them in-game, no matter how badly I want to use them...
Soontm?
i wonder just how much info can u milk from the game loading scene if u play it in slow motion
i hope to god they can just pick up humans while sprinting
Please
We need to be patient
Doubt it.
I know the feeling as I’ve been waiting since 2016-2017 and am still holding out hope 😎
how powerful should we expect gen1 weaponry to be compared to like, gen2 weapons, like would a bow [assuming they get bows, dont see why they wouldnt] be comparable to any gun?
I know ):
just walking with kevin when up comes a monstrosity and yoink, hes gone
Rather perks because if you get gen manipulation after being born or as an adult you get cancer.
there goes Kevin
That was one of the ideas.
When you see them, you will not expect to survive survive any melee encounter.
Another one was a tunnels scene.
I'll just leave that one at that.
And even if you are born with strains what makes you so certain that the mutation is not lethal
People who go "humans are bad addition for the game because guns" are gonna be so mad when they realize tribals won't be free food either...
@ionic sable on mobile so. can't copy paste, F word woops... excuse my language
800+ hours as dinosaurs, y’all aren’t ready for the amount of no lifing I’m gonna do with gen 1s bruh
That's just horrible.
I love it.
Rats, Rats, they are the Rats.
What AE does about GEN1 and GEN2 is focken real.
You can do that
Proxy VC. Imagine the screams
You cannot clone a man but you can create strains
phoenex still canon?
Will gen1 have ranged weapons readily available or will they be quite rare for them
Spooky tunnels?
no
Actually strains
all im saying is
gen 1 holds RMB
anything small enough it comes into contact with gets IMMEDIATELY grabbed and dragged off
GUTS tunnels.
really hyped to see gen1s weapons, no way theyre using anything smaller than say, and english longbow
makes me wonder if gen1s are still bipeds
Sort of super humans who are in some way better in skills
don't do that Bork!
funny yoink and yeet man
Because honestly I’d probably be more scared of a 9 foot tall monster shooting arrows taller than me out of a tree than any gun imaginable
Tribal melee weapons
Give me a knife!
Imagine marking your hunting grounds with crucified dilos that would be scary af
(I now remind you all of my love for flares)
Thats terrifying
iirc the english longbow is like 6ft long
thoomp thoomp thOOMP THOOMP
"What the FU- DEAR GOD HELP M"
THOOMP THoomp thoomp thoomp
and now the Gen1 Longbow
Are ye okay?
9ft long bow be like
Can tell you that development on them has started.
real
very
lol
Did you ping Dondi?
man i cant wait to brutalize some poor gen2 when the time comes
I adore the concept of Gen 2's main concern not being the Gen 1 they can see, but rather the ones they can't
Double checking, GUTS: human made or naturally occurring?
(Yet another funny Apollo Files spoiler that is hereby revoked.)
That idea popped into my head at like 3 in the morning and it basically became a driving part of the lore instantly.
GUTS caves under Spire!
yes
What are GUTS tunnels?
Beat me to it.
Very cool
Generic Underground Tunnel System (nickname)
*Transportation
I guess a tunnel system connecting human facilities by rail and road for traffic is not a natural occurrence
Our acronym for the guts isn't much better tbh
Bofum
hmm, just thought about it, im kinda vindicated in wanting eyeless/gen1 to resemble the humanoid things at the end of shin godzilla, the heads posted above arent too far from the vibe
sorry, sorry
define incident 
Extreme burrowing mechanic
If you want to see GUTS in real life go to the netherlands
They put the traffic of the town into tunnels
It is one of the few story elements that is going to be carried over to the remake.
love those guys
is GUTS for physical navigation or will it act more like a portal? or just for show?
👍
maybe a wee bit of a stretch, but, cool nonetheless
First and third. No portals.
I am pretty proud of the acronym I made for GOLEM, kinda sad to have it confirmed that GOLEM isn't an acronym. 
woah, godzilla
What did you call it?
cool
Generational Ornate Life Engineering and Management Program
Go
On
Let's
Eat
Minmi
hey, woah, hey
lol
This is bloody beautiful
minmi soup
(No more Apollo Files spoilers for you.
)
That slaps. I'd keep that if I were you.
This is bloody lovely
Copy and paste is hard as hell on mobile lol
tribal cooking system wen? cook and eat minmis using theyre own body as a bowl? like turtle soup or something
Nah, still alive and wiggling tastes way better
What's wrong with yer mind?
i feel like they wouldnt be bothered with something as uncultured as cooking
I had it on hand and posted it 
well, theyre not entirely mentally regressed[?] i doubt theyd stop cooking entirely
Maybe using organs as ingredients, reusing an already established mechanic
soylent green is people
Pepper spray stolen from gen 2 over the whole concoction lol
lol
Yeas!!
@ionic sable it doesn't need the program part added on either, it makes sense without it, to tighten it up

Tonight on top gear
I explore the GUTS of gateway with Hammond and James
Have you watched this episode?
The program part is very, very important.
alot, why do ask?
hmm
Brutal 
Unfortunately no
Just curious
the trio attempt to circle around the island using only AE supplied jeeps and vehicles

James literally hits the end of the tunnel at speed and breaks his rib cage
WAIT, everyone shut up, fishing for gen1&2? yay or nay?
i'm on board
Should’ve taken the monorail
Plot twist AE would use British vehicles
Just copy Sea of Thieves / RDR2
I’m all for bang sticks
Punchpacket is canon
DAMN.
I need an Isle fishing mini game.
if yay, best game ever made, no contest
Every good game has a fishing mini game.
, if nay, you cant stop me ill find a way to fish [this is threat]
sucho from Hope. trailer
Fishing for 2.
Spear hyuck for 1.
perfect
oooh
Get the austros to do it for you
I have no idea if it'll be a real minigame. But they have to get fish somehow.
Spear fishing catfish 
o7

WOOO spear fishin less goooo
Totally should be like “dredge” fishing
sounds good either way
dondi still here? i got a question
me aiming at the elite fish heading towards the sun
nah, no minigame needed, just aim and throw with spears
they're on a lore mission
icarus flies no more
NOOOO
but for the gen2s!?
true idk
THE ISLE FISHING?
yes
Dondi, do you like the idea of Tribal building boats and large floating rafts maybe floating huts to fish hunt Deinos and live abroad from land?
As a sort of floating village.
just shoot the fish with a gun
Sounds like a logistical nightmare for us to make.
But that's also been most of the game so.
I take that as a no
pictured: minmi 3 called

Raft with dinosaurs
idk what else i can ask, youve pretty much sold me entirely on why gen1 will be my favorite part of the game
Well, time to pose another thought.
It would be pretty reasonable to assume that the world of The Isle has other large corporations like Apollo, so, could we see something similar to Phoenix in old lore? With a rival to Apollo, causing problems, and being another side to the coin.
That was one of the most interesting parts of old lore, and I would love to see a similar plotline again.
don, there is a old loading screen which says something like “no one is taking the matriarch’s off spring” so the matriarch can do parteogenesis? i mean makes sence
and also if they are keeping her in a gate she evolves based out of what?
if not, I can imagine internal affairs still occurring
@severe lark
Indeed.
Many leeches attach to the body.
no kingdom, whether it be a literal kingdom or a large company, is going to have 24/7 100% happy staff
Hmmm, I'll take that as a no, in that case.
I call dibs on the corporate rivalry plot.
which is the body, and which are the leeches, is the question 🤔
we are the leeches
I thought we were the rats?
Jeremy Wade roleplay time
im da giant rat
You're unfortunate and necessary.
funny lab rats

I think I’m also the first to find the exact species our isle catfish is? Unless I’m overselling myself
Can’t believe it took this long too
damn, big fish
I'm still curious if botany includes paleobotany.
Although, at least in-game there haven't been any Paleo plants that I've noticed.
Time for prehistoric forests or straight mutant sci fi biomes
god im excited for gen 1 gameplay
i hope we can make really big bonfires
i imagine it requires chopping down trees
I mean... One way to solve ugly grass is to just go full Paleo and have no grass 
forget any sauropod ive ever yelled about, gen1 is life
that’s cause we are at a normal island if there are paleoplants theyr sitting in a lab

You know em.
You love em.
Shrubs.
i don't know a lot about the deep lore and specifics, but a lot if what we see to me feels like a quick evacuation or collapse of whatever corporation residing on the island occurred(?). i'm curious if any of the employees escaped or are still residing on the island and what it was like for those individuals at the epicenter? i will accept cryptic analogy if necessary
ferns and ferns and ferns and occasionally a tree and more ferns
YES SHRUBBAGE
Hyper Plant Haven!!
we talking Mexican shrublands here, Aussie shrublands?
Tropical lowlands.
hypo fern confirmed
I was thinking something similar, and made a joke about a rapture, but honestly, considering Apollo's capabilities, that isn't all that farfetched.
we talking South East Asian, South American?
South American
not bad
Actually... A rapture wouldn't be that bad of an idea...
do we have any concept art of tribal architecture? i wanna see the design motifs or if its basic
Nah, that would be one too many evangelion references.
only very old stuff
i wanna make a comic about the experiences of a random engineer at the time of the breakdown, modeled and written after MrDBear's likeness because it makes me laugh to think about
More
get in the replicator shinji
lame but ill take it
The replicator in our lore is actually 2 references rolled into one 
search up Iron Belly the isle
this was before Tribals were cool 😊
Portal and Evangelion go brrrr
oh nvm
Islevangelion?
lol
Sure, why not.
i thought you were implying that it's actually two separate entities being mistaken for one another @ionic sable
? this? idk some of it goes kinda hard
yeah, but not by design contrast with actual Tribals
Uhhh...
Best tribal concept art was old vega stuff
Hope with all the customization I can bring that vibe back
uh oh
vega's stuff is awesome
Absolutely.
actually, did we get Vega Tribal art for buildings?
can't remember
It'll be fine. 
Wait, are gen 1 still even mammals?

humanoid
So what’s the deal with the eyeless guys now then, are they like super gen1 or what
i mean, human in origin, or atleast, human dna donor
Gen 1 gone wrong?
gen1 two
I hope they’re hideous
it seems like theyre... just a variation, one type of Gen 1 among other variations we will see
The real question is are the eyeless more of a Gen 0.5 or a Gen 1.5
interesting
oh theyll be repusive if the gen1 heads we got are anything to go off of
I hope they do something nice because since 2016 when the concept started, weirdly it seems the “pale faceless humanoid monster” trope exploded for some reason
So it was really unique back then but less so now
from this.
To Eyeless
to Greek God Physique human

Like idk what happened but for some reason over the last decade or two everybody is doing a slenderman thjng
im still so proud myself for noticing the oni teeth, A tier design
Seems like Natural progression to me
Almost true for that but not quite.
A philosophy that I am shamelessly stealing.

We need an Ian Malcolm self insert
actually wait, hold, on , hacker mentioning evangelion got me thinking
No. No thank you. Please. No.
Dude.
We already have one.
i imagine Ian Malcolm quotes were inspirational on some level
Allen
I learned how to flirt from Ian Malcom 👍
I love myself some Michael Crichton inserting himself into his own books!!
!!
lol
hmm maybe i just remeber the scene wrong, but the eyes are somewhat similar
Michael Crichton when religion:
Get in the collosus shinji
a science man with the degree to prove
stop making me want to rewatch Evangelion
^
ive already watched it 3 times
Does discord still make a giant wall if you send like 6 images at once or do they compress
they have a collage system now

Every time Iris posts that humanoid evolution for Godzilla it makes me want to rewatch Shin Godzilla.
(Oh hey, that's another thing that was an inspiration for Apollo Files)
anyone have the image with the giant deinosuchus head in the distance, i think its something eye made?
Hacker, can I insert myself as the better replacement Ian Malcolm?
So don, what's are you thinking the replicator would look like? Would it be a single machine? A building full of embryos like in jp3?
You want the scientist guy or the field expert guy.
Alright well gonna throw all these because what the hell is Hollywood doing these are all in the last decade
Can’t even blame TI for it with their cannibals either they were ahead of the curve, but what’s going on? 
the replicator was the [REDACTED] we made along the way
field expert sounds like stereotypical aussie, and I'm all up for it
Tall skinny pale men were so IN
So would the cannibals have incentive to work together or just go it solo as a wendigo?
Tall pale faceless monster trope is such a weird thing to just emerge like that
Uhh, Dash, did you just say cannibal
Hopefully I can do something right with it instead of being another footnote in the poor trend of "pale naked man" tropes.
Hmmm, Bread is already doing VA for him... But you can do some cool dialogue for him.
🐟
people love gross pale twinks what is there to say
Give it clothes
VA? VO
very very interesting, ok im done with that
I will say demogorgon design smacks
Voice Acting mf
Voice over!!!
Voice acting.
It is the term I am using, and I will stick with it.
Some snazzy sunglasses and a watch with some loafers, that’s it
Voice over is the voice acting going over the footage, not the voice acting itself.
I will now watch the apollo files as I'm too deep in the lore hole
Don't, the lore in the currently released tapes is Garbo 
Too bad
I’d love me some VA’d audio logs to collect
VO is interchangeable with voice acting 😠
Except for 5 of course 
I've got my headphones on
No it's not
Yes it is!!

You are voice actor
But you don't do Voice acting
You do voice over
(Leaked footage of the Apollo Files lore team discussing acronyms.)
me when GOLEM
do NOT watch tape 5
Your channel is overshadowed by moon landing fake videos
Nonononononono
Voiceover is the voice playing over footage.
Voice acting is acting for a character via voice.
It's not going over something, it's just being acted.
I know.
We'll defeat them someday.
Having all the tapes on one channel will probably help with that lol
voice acting is the person acting the voiceover or dubbing service!!
so the term is more or less interchangeable!!
While yes, they are more or less interchangeable, that doesn't mean that there isn't a more correct option in this situation.
The more correct option being Voice Acting.
Bread is already doing VA for him
Bread is already doing the VO for him
😠
What have i missed
everything
;-;
We are talking about very important Apollo Files stuff.
The Isle lore has grown to the public by 0.5%
Nah man it's gained another like 20% at least.
the size of The Isle lore is too large for brain capacity!!
Must go larger.
thats like .5 more % than it was before
Yes, that's around 0.75% now to full capacity
before a new reformation
We are nearing a tipping point of 1%, then there’s no going back
The Apollo CEO's name genuinely could have been Norman at one point.
It has been changed obviously, but still.
^^ 🥹
Norman Miguel Sherwood
Osborn?
I didn't make the parallel immediately, but Player did.
lol
@hoary scroll great minds…
Miguel still fits with the Spiderman reference
Which also wasn't intentional lmfao
i see so little rabbits

lol
was abt to react with the same emoji lol
I must return to the bunker. So long.
I am kinda debating going back through the chat and purging the Apollo Files lore I dropped in here.
Edit: Yeah, I will.
We appreciate all of this. Thank you.
Finally, I am free.
the lore feast is gone, it is 2:46am, alas i may rest
dondi. haast eagle thoughts?
Thank you for the information.
Time to thoroughly go over it after I finish reading more of Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix
12:46 for me, gotta be up at 5:30...
Tomorrow is gonna be real fun...
Same wavelength
You should read Berserk.
thankfully i dont work tommorrow, maybe a bday to celebrate but well see how thay goes
I'm currently in a long reading session between A Song of Ice and Fire (game of thrones) and Harry Potter
Only in terms of lore implications I guess
is haast in the lore? i think some of the cave art represents it
Okay, but once you are done, you should read Berserk.
no
desperate
sad lizard
Goodbye
The trespassers are dead
Are they?
ah i man, i forgot to ask about using shipping containers as a brazen bull [perhaps for bulk cooking? or cooking large animals?]
Bunker trailer
Oui
oui...
...
you don't know!!
I'm gonna self promo-
oh no-
Ae engineering miracle?
No, kill the those innocent people
Remembering how choppy the frame rate of it was feels weird nowadays
lol
One of the things that got me to buy the game.
Very so
It was that, playing PCE and hearing about Isle from people from PCE after Isle was released
and, of course, Beaver
Yup, for me it was everynightxriot I believe.
The beaver video got me into it when he was messing with the alpha and just spawning in circles of rexes
He was always the ARK guy for me
lol
Same
Found him via Subnautica
Then found ark and the aisle
Ay same, him and beaver
newmorphs are surprisingly similar to cannibals
xenomorph designs are super old designs if they look different they are a different species (alien lore nerd here)
Idk if anyone has already checked, but the morse code is still the same
the tracks?
The light in the menu
The isle is an illusion, swim out as far as you can at the beach and you will see...
the barrier?
No zug zug in this house. :(
😢
man i missed a lot of lore from dondi
i see it was mostly for gen 1's, eyeless and a little on strains
ChatGPT said this months ago and Dondi finally confirmed it
Hm
I guess that does actually make sense
Can someone give me a rough summary of the Isle's lore?
dinosaur
^
Was it ever stated that generation 1s are, well, generation 1s because they came first and are like, basically trial “humans” whereas generation 2s are actual humans that can be useful regarding the organ stuff? Idk that’s my incredibly shallow theory if it hasn’t been stated already, though, rereading this that seems really obvious. @acoustic osprey
I never claimed to be smart 😎
though I have a feeling gen 1s have to be useful or else they wouldn’t be kept around… unless they just escaped and are now wreaking havoc lmfao
Part of me likes to believe the replicator just keeps making them
Wether AE likes it or not
Cuz I don't think they can reproduce the normal way, but that's a hunch
Yeah, the question is always whether or not the replicator has been functioning properly the whole time
Isn't the replicator basically a rogue AI?
We know this is an AI but we don't know if it work as intended or if it went rogue, correct me if i am wrong.
Yeah that true
Considering the current state of the island, I think it's safe to assume that she went rogue
do we have a rough estimate of the size of the hyperendocrin colossus or nah?
We have no official confirmation of its size
Bigger is a good size description
We can assume from its name "colossus" that he is quite big
Btw. Stan, did you see the new tribal art
Yes
Your thoughts on em. I find em based imo. Like the eyeless idea just refined
Creepy bois
They’re pretty dope
Like, they take the aspects of the eyeless I liked, but altered em and refined em into these uncanny beast people
Me when the eyeless have eyes :
Jokes on you it doesn’t
where did this come from lol
Lore theories, posted yesterday by dondi
Scroll up.
wrong channel, methinks
Aye Iron
hi Iron
do you like the Tribal faces?
lol
since my school's gc is into The Isle I spammed CODE RED DON HAS RELEASED LORE CODE RED CODE RED THIS IS NOT A DRILL
are they also into the isle lore?
ye somewhat
some of them are obsessed like me
do they already contribute to this channel? 🙂
no
I think most are just silent observers
interesting
lurking in the shadows
hello people
We're watching you
yes
don lore master
Don
Di
Isaac lore man
Sometimes
I don't deserve the title.
I only appear in here when the Light man requests my presence.
co-lore master, then?
I mean, I'm making my own... so... probably?
I'm not insane like you people 
nuh uh!
Uh, they're not eyeless! ☝️
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#isle-discussion message
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I believe these things are thing I need to note down in my doc
I might also need a small section for things that aren't true big things in lore, just words in an iceberg stuff
I'm also curious about "The Tomb"
if the Tomb is a Library of sorts
Would that make AE_CORE_DATA/_ARCHIVE less so a Library of any sort and just a place you'd log archived information/data (in terms of video footage, etc)?
the video log 291-A
the pachy observation video had "AE_CORE_DATA_ARCHIVE_R18"
don't know whether to call it AE Core Data Archive or just APOLLO CORE DATA
As the videos refer to it as the latter
with just file information adding archive
intrigued what he means by "expatriation" i know what the word means by definition, but no idea what he ws getting at
But yeah, where can you put someone if they break an NDA
I'm guessing, a less legal and moral route
straight to the brig!
first im thinking off was force them tto work/live on the islands
"ever heard of the Deimos Program?"
Oh no, inferring that to "X" person who broke the NDA
ah, i totally knew that, defo
just step right here into our very inconspicuous vats of goo
those are my favorite kind of vats of goo!!
CANNIBRO LORE WHAT
I’m late to this
So uhhh eyeless have eyes, AE started off making plants and the Matriarch is Kirby?
This is good
better than good
it was tribals
it wasnt a eyeless
dondi specifically said that they are gen 1 = tribals
I got some ss if u need em
Apollo, food
omni
omini
ominmi
minmi
I hope in the lore the hyperendocrine killer is a 4 bore rifle
hyperendocrin killer = hunger and ICBM
Still want a railgun platform facility exclusively for blasting hypers
Try this new beauty product. :)
I mean a 4 bore would do nicely.
anyone got a summary to the lore drop?
Anyone can sum up the lore for me? I scrolled here and now, im curious ( you can DM me too lol )
Hyper killer = M1A2 Abrams
Did they add new music and morse code to the docks on Spiro or was that always there? I tried to open OBS but by the time I could the track ended. Seems like there might be a secret message there if it hasn't been found yet.
No, same tracks
Unless I'm mistaken
I'll have a look again unless you're able to record it, if you want
Same tracks, but there are a variety of themes that can play around human structures.
I managed to trigger the track again. I have a clip but I can't seem to send it through discord so I uploaded it to my youtube.
Yeah so if this isn't a new track what does the morse code translate to?
... --- ...
SOS, or Save Our Souls
The universal distress call in morse code
Joy
Thanks dude, I was in the middle of reinstalling Audacity lol
NP lol
Honestly, if you want to look deep into the track, it could be interpreted as the final moments of some poor AE personnel trapped on the island after whatever happened, happened. SOS can be interpreted as a literal distress call, or as the genuine pleas to a God to forgive and save them, since AE is notorious for their "God Complex" mindset
That's what I was imagining as I heard it with your context. Gives me the heeby jeebies
I imagine going into an AE facility will be a cross between a menagerie and a SCP containment complex.
It's more than likely this is referencing whatever lead these structures to be abandoned in the first place, although the use of SOS can go many ways given AE's work and history, which I find cool. It could also be that morse code sounds cool, but I like the idea that Dondi had the song include it as an AE member literally trying to both seek help from headquarters, as well as forgiveness from God for the horrors that are about to kill him
The fact it repeats makes me think that whatever cry there was fell on deaf ears, which is equally haunting
The constant reuse of SOS makes me believe that this was someone's last desperate moments, and no one ever heard their cries
Or, they chose to ignore it
I'm not sure what that instrument is, but it starts at like 1:00 in the video. Makes me imagine the exact moment he dies, and I've heard this sound in horror stuff in the past. That's when the morse code stops, so presumably the survivor dies there in the track. Ominous. Makes me excited for the future.
This lap makes me wonder how accessible alarms would be, and how much clearance you need in order to access the comms room, was that some poor sod pleading for help or a doctor who expected it?
tubular bells
So what's the deal with Pheonix Corp and Apollo engineering? Are they one in the same? Rival companies? Did Dondi go back on his decision to put anything Primal Carnage in the game at all? Is the magna rex B-443 because the olypmus transmitter said we're going to enter it. Do magnas still exist? What is Isle lore?
Phoenix Corp is out
Magnas no longer exist, other strains still do
Honestly rn its safer to assume anything in legacy and anything from PE are scrapped
Best to work only with evrima has to show and some of the general ideas that carried over
No longer affiliated with Primal at all.
Magnas no longer exist?
That's a real shame actually, but I suppose I can understand if they aren't associated with Primal at all
Does anyone know why this decision was made?
We are all alts
Well most SoS signals are looping, so I'd assume that the AE employee was going out, activated the beacon, and then died
But if this is indicative of an actual SoS being played, that means its now much more likely non-AE humans enter the area of this island
Those signals are investigated, typically, and depending on where we are in the world that means that any number of armed investigators could come to aid the dead team
The American Coast Guard versus the Dinosaurs would be funny, but now it's also possible
oh no u got us!!!1!!11!1!
I know there's some drama with Primal and TI, something about Dondi being a former dev or smth
That is a huge shame, we lost an over the top strain for drama
I'm also pretty sure that it was some heavy drama. Like, stealing models level drama. And Dondi didn't want that type of bad rep on his game for the rest of eternity, so he wiped everything affiliated with Primal, such as Phoenix and Type-Ms/Magnas.
Oh I thought they were accusing Dondi of being a problem
I didn't know that they were straight stealing models lmao
from what we know
but internally? Who knows
Not sure on what terms Dinosauriac left with Don/Isle
and why PC is no longer connected with Isle
All I know is
but, definitely, I'd say it's for the better
This means more unique lore from the Isle
no more limitations
A stronger game
Well, at least stronger lore
and honestly, lot's of Isle's lore from 2018 was just Isle trying to confine with what PC was doing/done
yeah and it made TI less of a game and more of... quoting Don here a leech
also this? (it's probably Legacy lore but I haven't read much about it here.) I forget where I found it. Maybe one of Meaty's videos https://www.dropbox.com/s/4lgfn8o0icojaov/CAN_YOU_UNDERSTAND_ME.pdf?dl=0
user inquiries was a thing where you could submit a word and it'll give you some lore on it
ohh thats cool. were you talking to Olympus Transmitter, then?
first one
dear god I remember those streams
no, sadly not
I was never active here from 2018, both this server and the old one
I gatekeep you
then was (the inquier.. inquieree?) talking to.. dare I say it... the Replicator herself?
btw iirc these streams were from 2017
unless I am senile
Yeah, from old server stuff
Olympus used to send a bunch of messages back then
throwback!
rather than tweeting from twitter land
I remember those days
Who knows.
you better!!
Legacy in a nutshell
User Inquiry: Tartarus
This distribution of this information will disrupt the natural development of the profiles during phase four.
They must learn of it of their own accord.
Within parameters designated by Apollo Engineering.
Error: Unknown Profile
Error: Unknown Profile
Error: Profile Redacted
We do not tolerate trespassers."
and also:
"Tartarus: NEIP Redistribution"
Like this, seemed to have two voices
the first half
then the ERROR happened
and the "We do not tolerate trespassers"
that might've be The Replicator
the second voice
last night I was looking at that (sleep deprived n having zero braincells) and I thought that could've been another EIP/user that logged in and the (AI?) stopped mid-sentence to warn (???)
it could've been
ima make an olympus transmitter google account cause im bored. give me the criteria
criteria?
what the acc should be
what do you mean?
name, date of birth, birthday, etc
Oh
what should the pfp be?
either a logo of AE or a large radar, like the original accounts
lets do a vote
radar
I wish I remember those, I know I watched them, but they are all like a blur in my mind lol
ok I finished making the acc but The Isle's discord has a weird setting that doesn't allow new accs to join so
please dondi i need more of the species glance sheets
are the bio domes going to have different biomes within? like redwoods or deserts?
Not all will be bio domes
i just wanna be a worm in the lore, the parasitic worm that started the all hell break loose event
issac are all the glance ref sheets pinned in this channel? or are there more than just the two
only pinned those two as they're more worldbuilding than dino description
Will make a proper google drive to be pinned once we get more documents like those
mk. iirc don said smth abt it being fun so I'm assuming we'll have more in the coming year(s)
i the replicator like The FLDSMDFR
That’s the current assumption
i knew it
Hey wait that's my iconic gif
Remember that Olympus Transmitter tweet? (image credits to monkipot) "Look to the sky at the right time. The path to Gateway has been there all along."
I thinks that the map border
ye I think it is, still interesting to think abt tho lore-wise
Yes
also anoybody got any good pictures of the EVRIMA utility outpost at -14,-117 and the ranger station at -156,-115?
plus what are their "official"/unofficial titles/names
I think -14,-117 is called "Shelter" and the other is "Garage"
how many AE buildings even are there on spiro 😢
Barely anything major. Besides if you count the incomplete harbor.
we have K15 and two others, right?
I count 6 buildings. 10 locations if you count containers on the beach and in the trash pit, if you count the storm drain in NW, and if you count the dam in the east as being evidence of AE/human activity.
-3 buildings/structures in the east
-The warehouse in the south
-Radio tower
-Port
But they aren't really significant from what I've found
While on gateway we have several biodomes and a gigantic hexagon. Which we got no clue how it works
thank you!! and I'll use that gateway stuff too enthusiast
GUTS, bridges, monorail, and several human bases on gateway as well
Said monorail takes you to the second island
I was just about to mention GUTS and the monorail. Has it been said if they'll be operational or not? Or just the tracks?
It's just tracks
Ok thanks
Essentially the monorail is something pterosaurs can vibe on. Or a way to reach the second island
Yeah I couldn't remember if there were going to be like ghost trains that just went around the island with no humans around operating them. But you could jump on to escape as a juvie or smaller dino. Or a big one so you didn't use stam or time getting from one side of the map to the other
But just tracks definitely makes more sense from a development standpoint and not have to worry about having to code vehicles
I could have sworn I saw something about it being partially operational
https://youtu.be/jD0j2jh7-JE Skip to the part that says will monorail be functional, I wasn’t exactly correct but we will see
VisualTech48, the current 3D modeller for The Isle, recently streamed on a Discord VC in The Isle's Official Discord.
Please sit back and enjoy!
Below are chapters if you're interested in seeing certain sections for yourself!
0:00 - Introduction
0:16 - Brief General Monorail tunnel work
2:39 - Monorail + Tunnel Concept art!
3:20 - Will th...
I hadn't seen this before. Thanks!
it wont be
Darn
does every structure have a name, like K15? I know there's another that's called I12 (dont have coords for that one). what's each name and coords of the structures?
we only know about K15 and I12 due to regional spawn locations
ah mk. what should I call them?
call what?
the specific buildings areas? K15 and I12 are fine, as they're grid coordinate areas to the buildings
but if you're talking about other structures? Nothing really unless you know their coords and have a grid system
mk ty
Gateway is confusing as hell if it is on a simple grid network.
There are few water spots
It's gonna be so difficult to drink
This is a old layout of the map
Playing on the map itself, water is pretty abundant, you can find it fine
It's more like a dayz map than a dinosaur game
Just wait till you play Gateway, it's more like a dinosaur game than any other map from any other dinosaur game, it rules
Feels nothing like DayZ tho
Those giant acorns on the map made the map ugly
Those are domes, and they're majestic as hell to see in person
I hope there is a mode without humans
Unofficial servers
when will the map be released
Update 7 is the release date, or so we've been told
7th of next month?
No ETA
I didn't understand anything
There will not be a mode that removes human structures that we know of. But unofficials will be able to disable humans in the future.
Although right now Humans are only on certain unofficials.
There are no release dates, it will release when it's ready.
the humans are gonna have hecking guns aren't they
Gen 2 will have guns, yes
well how are dinos supposed to compete with guns!
Guns are loud, have limited ammo, and are only used by one of the squishiest, least mobile targets in the entire game
BUT THEY'RE GUNS
Also the game is full of dense as hell foliage that can hide even massive dinos
especially if it's like snipers and assault rifles seems pretty wild
and I don't imagine they're gonna make the humans start out as babies lol
They start out as regular humans
Without guns
Humans also lack natural night vision, the ability to smell, they are locked in first person, their flashlights make them MASSIVE targets, guns apparently have a distinct smell and muzzle flash to make them more obvious on top of the loud sound, they weight 85kg, are some of the slowest playables in the game, do pitiful damage without weaponry, rely soley on ammo for their combat and so on
well it's pointless to talk balance without having an idea with how it looks like. I imagine it will depend on effective range, ttk, how long it takes to get guns and ammo, and how popular they are to play, and what guns they're gonna get.
Large animal like bears can take several gunshots before going down
And often won't go down until after they've already mauled you to death. And even omni is comparable to all but the largest bears
Sure they can shoot you
But you'll now know where they are. And more than likely will reach them before they get enough shots in
depends on the gun
a 12 gauge puts a bear to sleep on the dot
so would a 50cal
a minigun an lmg...
even basic assult rifles would do it pretty quick
i'm pretty sure they aren't adding miniguns, LMGs or 50cals
also, bears are small compared to these animals
Now then ask urself
Why Would they add those guns
Cuz gen2 aren't soldiers. They're not mercs. Not anymore
well like I said it's pointless to discuss until we see what actually happens
Their job is to recapture abandoned structures from 6 ton creatures with foot long teeth, not exactly a job for a sock full of nickels
Not, infact confirmed, we really have no idea what reason geN2 are there for (nothing solid all implied at the least )








