isle-lore-theories

[zinc marsh]

Screw the name hyper colossus I prefer big monke lizard

Designs still awesome though

[unborn atlas]

The colossus

[pale marsh]

Is the colossus still canon?

[gentle vessel]

Ye

[dusky valley]

The big question can it still communicate with humans?

[acoustic osprey]

Hyper Colossus
aka. "Hyper Human"

The specifics on what Colossus will be, etc, hasn't been explained
Those designs may or may not be canon any more (not like most of them are)

[pale marsh]

If those designs will be cannon
I wonder the explanation for the reptillian appearance to be
And "it's cool" isn't good enough in itself

[acoustic osprey]

I mean, the designs haven't been very consistent honestly

is it a large human?
Or a big humanoid lizard?
or a Monkey Rex?
Or a Hyper Rex with Human genes?

[pale marsh]

True. I'm eager to find out for the lore

Tho I will admit. I wouldn't mind the monkey rex in the second image above

That's honestly a really good design
The face is like. A perfect mix of rex and ape

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[dusky valley]

Or maybe some ancient creature the tribals worship

[pine owl]

it looks like a very angry babbon

[hollow void]

in the wiki it says the colossus varies between a monke and a croc so lizardman or kingkong with scales

[mellow canopy]

photoshop that took me way too long 💀

[strange shell]

The guy looks like a french politician and it deeply bothers me

But this looks great

[swift echo]

this is frightening and I love it

[acoustic osprey]

More so Replicator and or Echidna

[swift echo]

anybody have a ss of that one big gate that was leaked somehow?

[acoustic osprey]

"somehow"

we've seen the Hyper Gate for years now

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/935898430771953694/600.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/857070045397123092/unknown.png

but if you're referring to this one.
From an old Don stream

(but they're practically the same model)

With subtle differences.
both the art, the photo and the ones in Gateway

[long onyx]

Isnt that the PI slogan

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[mellow canopy]

Pheonix… ?

[acoustic osprey]

Yes, Pheonix Int.

[mellow canopy]

ty!

[acoustic osprey]

np

[dusky valley]

What’s the actual size of the colossus

[severe raft]

At least an arm taller from the head of a Puertasaurus (probably more)

Yeah probably more

[dusky valley]

That’s too big in my opinion

But would it do

[dusky valley]

Like how would it react in its environment

[mellow canopy]

yeah no idea how it would sustain itself, even more so than the dinosaur strains

[swift echo]

yep, that's it! ty

[strange shell]

It wouldn't
That's the point of a hyper

[mellow canopy]

yes ik but that think would die in like two days

[swift echo]

more like 5 hours

[mellow canopy]

true

[strange shell]

exactly

[cyan herald]

I am looking for the stcok version of this image.

Figured one of you might know where I can find it

[sonic rampart]

Original

[cyan herald]

Thank you so much!

[sonic rampart]

nw!

[swift echo]

I found Colossus

[dusky valley]

What the hell?

[icy onyx]

looks like my uncle

[dusky valley]

Colossus should be a playable

[icy onyx]

🙉

[acoustic osprey]

From what we know from Kissen, those guys won't likely be playable; Or they may be playable really long in the future

[acoustic osprey]

(bunch of them in pinned in #merch-discussion )

[acoustic osprey]

No worries.
We also saw some other showcases of in some of Don's sept Lives

https://i.gyazo.com/thumb/1200/dd10e7e365c13e83b01f8443e5077479-jpg.jpg

https://i.gyazo.com/thumb/1200/b3b933bf6da9687ea566a3091fb2a0e4-jpg.jpg

Also this from myself, ages back

[dusky valley]

Damn I would love to run around and cause some chaos

[acoustic osprey]

It would be fun.
Preferably would like to see it as an LTM of sorts, if done correctly. The amount of chaos doable is insane

[dusky valley]

Yea true or it’s something that’s earned like through a ritual for tribals if they are still planned

[acoustic osprey]

Who knows.
We do know Tribals will get rewards for sacrificing things; Although, I see that more towards getting The Eyeless

[dusky valley]

The eyeless?

What’s that?

[acoustic osprey]

old Cannibals

( these guys https://survive-the-isle.fandom.com/wiki/The_Eyeless )

[dusky valley]

Oh but still it would be cool if you can earn that but killing hyperendocrin creatures like the spino Rex and giga just to unlock it

But since it’s a human strain it would be an omnivore but it’s constantly hungry and has to eat a lot to stay alive so it could just start eating each other as a balance

And other hyperendocrin creatures aswell to help with its diet

[acoustic osprey]

all just depends on balance

Albeit, Eyeless are less so Hypers (unless changed) and more so Neuros

[dusky valley]

True but didn’t the devs make a model for the colossus’s head

[acoustic osprey]

they made a model for it

[dusky valley]

Yea but it’s just the head with no fur just scales

[acoustic osprey]

aye

[dusky valley]

Even then I would like a new look for it

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/murph-magic-tones-blues-brothers-dont-change-never-gif-15734121

^ this is what Don said on Colossus

so who knows, it might

[dusky valley]

Having it look just newer and better but still I like to see it having the still reptilian look

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[dusky valley]

I have been looking at some art of it and it’s actually size is kinda inconsistent with it being either around the same size of either a hyperendocrin rex or normal Rex

[acoustic osprey]

that's because there is only one official art

[dusky valley]

Which I would be good to have it around the same size of a hyperendocrin rex instead of it dwarfing a pue

[acoustic osprey]

Who knows how big it'll be by Evrima anyways

[dusky valley]

True but this look is a bit old

[acoustic osprey]

Aye, old Vega art. Which is like 2015-2016

[dusky valley]

Yea it’s kinda outdated even the others are getting new looks if the Rex is something to go bye

[acoustic osprey]

It most likely will get an update

[dusky valley]

Like here this looks good

Even tho it’s unofficial

[acoustic osprey]

not the biggest fan of the extreme on monkey face

[dusky valley]

It’s not extreme monkey face it has a more extended reptile snout

[dusky valley]

But is you your type a more robust shorter snout

Still I would like it to have more of an reptilian and human ish face like the old model/current model’s face

[icy onyx]

8 or 10 meters it seems

[calm axle]

tall ?

[trail comet]

XDD?

[icy onyx]

Si

[dusky valley]

Damn

But hey if it was playable it would be basically playing the game on easy mode until another apex hyperendocrin of colossus shows up

[pale marsh]

I'll be honest. I'd hope the colossus isn't as reptillian as that

I'd love for something that's much more in the field of giant super deformed human

Like shin Godzillas 5th form at the end of the movie

A design similar to these guys would go hard

[dusky valley]

Nah that’s just weird I like the oldish or more reptilian ape design cause we have an human looking apex strain that’s the nero

[pale marsh]

Would do wonders for the horror aspect. Especially body horror

[dusky valley]

That looks more like the cannibals than the colossus

It just needs to look more beastial like a reptilian ape

[pale marsh]

I don't like the reptillian traits

Unless there is a lore reason the hypnerendrocin strain causes those traits

Which I think would be stupid anyway

[dusky valley]

I mean it’s supposed to be armoured not having smooth skin

[dusky valley]

Everyone has there own opinion but it would make more sense to have reptilian armoured scales than soft smooth skin

[pale marsh]

U can give a mammal armor without turning it into dingodile

[dusky valley]

Since hyperendocrin is supposed to be the tanks

[acoustic osprey]

Excluding what makes a Hyper a Hyper

[dusky valley]

Yea but reptiles have thick skin and the most armoured creatures are reptiles (e.g ankylosaurus) but having smooth mammalian skin doesn’t give the armoured look it makes it look weird

[acoustic osprey]

You can give anything armour
But the actual in-lore process of making Hypers might revolve around lizards/Dino

[dusky valley]

Yea but idk if the hyperendocrin strain is man made or naturally made

[pale marsh]

I agree

I just don't like it and would prefer type H human to be more than gorilla gator

[dusky valley]

And the mammal skin makes the colossus look weak and sickly but I do agree abit make the skin soft where there isn’t armour (e.g soft spots like the under belly)

[dusky valley]

There is a more human looking strain and that’s the neroutentic

[zinc marsh]

I’m a huge fan of Godzilla and would like something like this but at that point it would just be a bigger eyeless

[pale marsh]

Honestly I'd be fine with that to a degree

[zinc marsh]

I like the colossus design right now

[pine owl]

In the concept art it TOWERS over rex so maybe camara sizd?

[pearl cedar]

pretty sure it's man made

[acoustic osprey]

No that's fan made from tap

[dusky valley]

I wish it isn’t pue dwarfing big

I wish it’s hyper Rex big

[gentle vessel]

I personally lean toward the theory that the titans were vat grown humans, who had the strain in their system from day 1, but that had, effects, on the embryo as it grew

[lethal moat]

Interesting potential theory, it would explain why we don't have stuff about them from the 80s

[gentle vessel]

To me it explains the Dino esc traits as well, like colossus having scales, an archosaur esc face and the tail

[marsh thorn]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-gaming-gif-22535611

[zinc marsh]

Honestly this theory could have some weight

[icy onyx]

it could also be that they were the sons of a strain, so they started developing with mutations and with strain in their sistem

[swift echo]

scariest/most unsettling strain?

[gentle vessel]

Neuro

[tired crow]

Definitely neuro

[acoustic osprey]

I'd guessed so as well
Seeing as that's basically the same with Tribals (or just Gen2s) excluding the strain aspect

[calm axle]

tiso imo

[acoustic osprey]

(I mean, if you want to dub them as "Titans", it would relate Tartartus with 'em nicer)

[dusky valley]

Aren’t they just like dps glass cannons

[calm axle]

they spit acid iirc

[dusky valley]

I heard about that

It’s that for all or just the reaper cause it would be op if all could do that

[acoustic osprey]

no

[calm axle]

what do they do then

[acoustic osprey]

nothing

Tissos are the most unknown aspect of the three

[gentle vessel]

(I personally give them that title since lore wise they are like, the pinnacle of their strains and by extension the pinnacle of life on the island)

[calm axle]

exciting gameplay

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[lethal moat]

We know spikey and stealthy and thats about it

[acoustic osprey]

Well, that's what we presume

From a lot of fan concept art and very old art

[dusky valley]

I would wanna see an hyperendocrin deino how it might look similar to Lizzie from the rampage movie

[fading pivot]

Caníbal human there are a strain ?

[dusky valley]

Not quite sure

[icy onyx]

wondering what flying reptile could this be

never mind found it

[tired crow]

didnt know the isle had a ps1 port

[honest sierra]

Just current U6 lighting

[calm axle]

random useless pterodactyl ai

[civic sigil]

something we did not want but we needed

[dusky valley]

Just some fodder

[acoustic osprey]

(well it's AI)

[acoustic osprey]

Cannibals (Eyeless) these guys -> https://survive-the-isle.fandom.com/wiki/The_Eyeless

They're likely strains
But we have no clue at the moment

[dusky valley]

True but that goes some playables like troodon beipi and hyips

And the other small playables or some large ones like magy

[acoustic osprey]

both are really fast
Anything small can be very easily considered "fodder"
but there's still the factor of speed, and the actual usage of size (like hiding in a bush, grass, tree, etc)

[dusky valley]

Yea true but magy is just fodder

[acoustic osprey]

no idea on magy

[dusky valley]

From what the concept art shows is it can’t really defend self against any thing bigger than cera

It has a even battle against cera

[acoustic osprey]

magy can go toe to toe with Cera.
Sure it can't fight, but it seems to be a tank (alongside it's osteoderms shoulders)

[dusky valley]

Yea but I’m game it will be picked apart from other smaller carnivores like omni ect

[acoustic osprey]

that depends

it'll definitley be PvPed heavily from spite.
But, nothing, besides Cera, can eat it.

So, you'll just have people (especially smaller carnis) trying to fight Magy- getting cut and hurt- and getting poisoned (or akin to it having an unsavoury taste)

[dusky valley]

Poisoned?

That wasn’t In the concept art?

[acoustic osprey]

and getting poisoned (or akin to it having an unsavoury taste)

In the trello desc

[dusky valley]

Ah

But still the devs are trying hard to make magy viable even though most of it doesn’t make sense like I heard it can outrun a allo?

[acoustic osprey]

very early on it was said to do so

[dusky valley]

That doesn’t make sense

[calm axle]

something we didnt want and didnt need it honestly does absolutely nothing

[calm axle]

or apex players will just kos magies for funny
or big psuedo apexes or mid tiers
magy is just prey and nothing else

im kinda interested in eyeless
if they are gonna be a playable i would be interested into seeing how it works out
echolocation maybe

[dusky valley]

Psuedo is deino or will it be buffed up to apex? When apexes come to the game

[plucky sundial]

<@&933486433342222376> its in multiple channels

[swift echo]

How fast do we think the Hyper carnotaurus could go?

[lethal moat]

Fast as hecc boi

[swift echo]

Dondi said way, way back that it could've been faster but he slowed it down

[sly merlin]

Again, lore is just- lore

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/princess-bride-using-words-dont-gif-22072801

[sly merlin]

You don’t understand. Lore, is just lore.

Repeat that sentence 10 times and your eyes will be opened to the truth.

[acoustic osprey]

I... Don't understand?

https://tenor.com/view/norman-osborn-harry-osborn-willem-dafoe-green-goblin-spiderman1-gif-23224853

[silk token]

i forgor the lore

[vapid thorn]

me too

[ionic turtle]

How to become stresstester?

wrong chat, my bad....

[maiden sundial]

Wait for applications to open. Though if you do join. Please for the love of God don't just use it to see the updates early. And report the bugs you find and give suggestions

[dusk cypress]

where are the applications when they are open? is it a channel?

[maiden sundial]

They're in announcements

[dusk cypress]

where the devblogs are?

[maiden sundial]

Yup

[dusk cypress]

and thats just a message and when its closed the message gets deletet right?

[maiden sundial]

No they announce it is closed

[dusk cypress]

but they get deletet then or not

[maiden sundial]

Idk

[dusk cypress]

it would make sense

[acoustic osprey]

No

[cunning tapir]

Guys I need a little lore. What do we know about the matriarch? Is that the big monster or the thing that makes the dinos?

I want to draw a fan concept of what ever making all the life. I don't know if what I recall is correct or not but isn't it some semi autonomous entity called matriarch?

[acoustic osprey]

No

That's The Replicator
Which is an AI

We don't know what she looks like

Might be a black box
Who knows

[cunning tapir]

She is a she tho?

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[cunning tapir]

Im glad it's open ended

[runic shuttle]

Was this the Matriach ?
I mean, that was still an Unofficial desgin from before Tapwing joined the team, right ?

Wasn't there a picture with it in a dark facility, with 2 Omnis

[strange shell]

Nope, that's Hyper Quetz

[runic shuttle]

oh, huh o:

[runic shuttle]

Do you have this picture ? I remember there was one like that

[strange shell]

Matriarch in all its different forms

(All unofficial tho)

[runic shuttle]

Interesting o: Thank you 😊

[strange shell]

Missed one

[steel summit]

Since the artworks were made by Tapwing they might become official

[runic shuttle]

They might! Robo Quetz was too

[steel summit]

The matriarch is an ever adapting and evolving life form

[acoustic osprey]

Yes, if it fits to Don's vision, I don't see why not

[steel summit]

Hopefully

[tardy snow]

Guys

Did you wonder what robo quecl was supposed to do

Maybe there could be more robots

[swift echo]

can't forget this one

[plain notch]

what if they created dinosaurs then went back 30 million years later and they have populated the planet, leaving the dinosaurs to breed and some human structures sitll in contact (im new to isle)

[silver current]

They basically did, they created the dinosaurs, the hypos and all those

[plain notch]

oh

[silver current]

But I wouldn’t say 30 million years later, There development isn’t that good

[acoustic osprey]

Well, yes and no
Time travel is very iffy, but not canon and barely thought about

But it's more sophisticated
They made the dinosaurs. They didn't and wouldn't need to wait 30 million years, or equivalent

[lethal moat]

Or 40, cause old lore is from the 80s ish

[acoustic osprey]

Well

[icy onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/well-yes-but-actually-no-meme-aardman-the-pirates-pirate-gif-26563702

[fading pivot]

You are the BEST !!!!!

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/princess-bride-using-words-dont-gif-22072801

[icy onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/jar-phantom-menace-star-wars-gif-7665554

[acoustic osprey]

NOOO

[hollow sinew]

Which matriarch is supposed to be under the lake? unless that’s just a forgotten non-cannon lore that doesn’t matter anymore lol

[strange shell]

It's not a matriarch under the lake, it's an Island Walker, which was something else in old lore
But there's no sign of it still being canon for now

[hollow sinew]

:O woah what I’ve never heard of the island walkers? Is there any artwork of it or no?

[strange shell]

Not that I know of

[hollow sinew]

Aw man, well thank you for answering!

[strange shell]

np

[tardy snow]

Guys all dinos are made by humans right?

I kidda wonder why utah

Is not really a utah byt omni raptor

[swift echo]

Omniraptor isn't a utah, utah would likely be feathered, and omni was created to not have JP replicas iirc.

[tardy snow]

Ou

Btw i wonder if the robo quetzl will be ingame

[swift echo]

And yes, created by humans, a pharm company called Apollo Engineering (shortened to AE)

[stone sandal]

Is there a place where i can see the actual lore of the game? is there any out other than the recent dino files?

[calm axle]

evrima lore is not properly known yet

[swift echo]

yeah, definitely not as careful inspected and taken apart literally every pixel like Legacy's lore has been

jesus that made no sense

[steel summit]

Favorite strain everybody?

[acoustic osprey]

All depends

Might be like the trinity where they won't likely be playable, or at least not playable for a long time

[steel summit]

probably not, but maybe only Dev, like hypos and quetz in legacy

[acoustic osprey]

Nothing
Just a few words on an old stream

[steel summit]

To go back to the massive skeleton, on one island (dont remember which one), there is an Island Walker skeleton in the redwoods, just like the one under the Lake, and dondi has said that the one in the redwoods was killed by something other than natural causes, so thats fun to think about.

[swift echo]

neuro or type-o

[steel summit]

nice

[swift echo]

wait do u mean specific species of strain or just like the 'genus' itself

[steel summit]

strain, as in what do all the variants of the strain have in common

[swift echo]

V3 map, the Islandwalker was once visible in the Crater Redwoods, but was then moved to Titan Lake

[swift echo]

ah

[steel summit]

ah

[swift echo]

Dondi also said it didn't die of hunger, so something had to have deliberately MURDERED it or something, which...

is concerning.

[steel summit]

yeah, thats what i said, it didnt die of natural causes, as in hunger or age

[swift echo]

mhmm

[steel summit]

the only thing i can think of that could get close to being the killer (thats not a nuke) is the Hyperendocrine Collosus, but not even that is big enough.

[swift echo]

yeah...and didn't the Islandwalker die out like millions of years ago?? I doubt AE was even founded at the time it went extinct (if it even is extinct. Everything abt the isle's lore is just "ifs, ifs, ifs")

[steel summit]

not sure, but the V3 skeleton is not fossilized, so it cant have died many millions of years ago, maybe AE tried to replicate it, but it escaped or something.

[swift echo]

likely, but it does have foliage covering it and is half-submerged into the ground

[steel summit]

it died some time ago, that is atleast fact, but everything else is speculation

[swift echo]

agreed

[steel summit]

but if it was replicated and escaped, then maybe AE is the ones who killed it (still very theoretical)

[acoustic osprey]

Wish we had an official size for colossus before Evrima

Excluding Tap's unofficial artwork

[acoustic osprey]

<@&933486433342222376>

[modern rover]

he's all over the place

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-and-the-holy-grail-message-for-you-sir-fainted-message-message-for-you-gif-12275683

But I don't want the money!!

[dapper light]

can someone explain the isles lore to me

[strange shell]

Apollo Engineering is a medical company.
Apollo Engineering builds (or finds) the Replicator.
Replicator is big sentient machine with superpowers. Also it's a she.
Replicators creates dinos, mutants, and mutant dinos for Apollo Engineering.
[REDACTED] happens.
The Isle is now abandoned and full of dinosaurs and mutants.

[swift echo]

I know Phoenix has been rejected from the lore, but does anyone have any images of their logo?

[icy onyx]

bread is lore

[acoustic osprey]

Replicators creates dinos, mutants, and mutant dinos for Apollo Engineering.
This is still unsure

[tame pike]

https://tenor.com/view/the-isle-kaperoo-isle-squid-game-gif-23432336

[lethal moat]

This is all that I could find

[swift echo]

ty

[barren wren]

I know Hyper dinos have a sped up metabolism n stuff that make them special but what about the other strains? What do they do that changes the creature so much like magna and neurotenic

[strange shell]

Well magna, for one, no longer exists
We can assume neurotenitc messes with their brain somehow, but it's more on the "fiction" side of "science-fiction"
And tissoplastic, as the name implies, has something to do with tissue production and shaping

[barren wren]

What was magna then?

Also did they confirm the other strains specifically coming or just that strains in general are?

[strange shell]

Magna was hyper without the downsides
The other strains are confirmed to exist, but we haven't had recent news on them
The most recent one being that tissoplastic is being reworked from the ground up, and that was more than a year ago

[fading pivot]

Hi everyone, I'm a fan of The Isle of Spain. the mercenary humans and the natives. What mission or function will they perform on the island? like dinosaurs we must grow create a herd and survive. but as humans what will be our purpose?

I imagine that Apollo engineering will hire mercenaries or one of the classes of mercenaries are scientists, so instead of human races we will have human professions. some could be scientists and others mercenaries

[lethal moat]

Retake the island and maintain the facilities that they manage to get operational.

[fading pivot]

And natives ?

[lethal moat]

We know next to nothing about tribals or cannibals, but we have a teeny bit of art.

Let me find it real quick

[lethal moat]

https://ironbellystudios.com/2016/05/31/the-isle-open-world-survival/ Really old stuff from 2016

[pale marsh]

Most we really know about tribals. Lore wise is they worship the replicator iirc

[hallow stream]

Wait what's the replicator?

[lyric marsh]

i completely forget

[pale marsh]

AI machine thing that seems to create the dinos
Unknown if actually of AE origin

[hallow stream]

ooooh

interesting interesting

[lyric marsh]

but i hope ae is one of those companies that really doesn't care about their employees like the scp foundation or smth, a large soical divide between guards and "disposables" would be cool

[modern rover]

its more likely they can just make their own human resources, hence why Gen 2 exists

[pale marsh]

Eh I feel evil/morally questionable corporation with no regard to human life is overdone

[hallow stream]

y'know a story version of the isle would be sick

[modern rover]

also, mercenary is no longer the valid way of describing the modern humans

[modern rover]

reminder that this is a medicinal company and all of this is for the betterment of human health

[pale marsh]

They're "generation 2" now

[lyric marsh]

ohmy gawd I didn't know that. are the dinosaurs and other creatures more just like tools then? or do we not know what the reason why they created prehistoric ecosystems is

[pale marsh]

Unknown

We know strains were developed for "medicine"

So my head cannons stem from that but nothing really confirmed

[lyric marsh]

biosyn momento

[pale marsh]

And I say developed but we don't actually know if AE actually created them or not

[lyric marsh]

ooo alr

[hallow stream]

If I remember correctly, there's some tapwing art that shows AE creating the hypo quetzal or doing something with a hypo. Not sure tho

[pale marsh]

Unofficial

Was before tapwing was hired as a concept artist

My PERSONAL HEAD CANON for the purpose ot strains is some kind of deluded trans humanism thing
Bring about the "next stage of human evolution" or whatever

[hallow stream]

I think they might be made for war or something like that, knowing humans lol

[hallow stream]

Ohh okay

[modern rover]

no war

no military

[pale marsh]

I believe the war thing was shot down by don

I think it's a god complex transhumanism thing

[hallow stream]

ahh okay

[hallow stream]

wdym by transhumanism?

[pale marsh]

Transhumanism is the idea that we can and should improve our species ourselves
Genetic engineering
Cybernetics
Etc

[hallow stream]

oh okay, thanks

[modern rover]

<@&933486433342222376> wealth for offer in many channels

[acoustic osprey]

It's in Primal Carnage.
But here is their one

vs AE

[acoustic osprey]

Aye.
You can make that argument- especially since they seem to overly enjoy Hellenistic Gods, embedded aspects (old and new lore) into the company itself

blantantly upfront when you look at their name - Apollo Engineering

[acoustic osprey]

well. It depends on your definiton on "created"

created as in:
synthesised by AE without help from others ||Replicator||?
or
designed by AE, but produced/synthesised by something else (i.e. Replicator)

same goes with the dinos.
But, for myself, I'm on the side that the latter is both for Strains and Dinosaurs

and not Replicator made the dinosaurs because she could

[acoustic osprey]

If you want a basis on their "moral standpoint"
We know they aren't evil generic company
but they're definitely a bio-engineering (?) ||or just a|| medicinal company (of sorts)

They're certainly not your average "Green Thumbs" company.
But, by morale, they're definitely your average corporation

Totally forgot about GOLEM trials, need to write it down before I forget about it again

[pale marsh]

I'm inclined to believe the replicators more of a glorified printer
AE synthesized the first assets
And the replicator
Well
Replicated. And then went rogue

[maiden sundial]

And maybe when it went Rogue synthesized better generations with natural selection. Hence why omniraptor also has utahraptor

[pale marsh]

That where I think strains originated from
Replicator started altering the assets. Before going fully rogue.
And AE started getting ideas

And that could be used to explain inaccuracies in design such as Omni or tenoto

[maiden sundial]

I mean the strains could just be roided up versions of the original strains

[pale marsh]

That's also part of my idea

AE sees a juiced up tenoto and thinks "ok but dial it up to a thousand"

[swift echo]

ty that's an entire gallery omg

[analog cosmos]

wrong chat

[swift echo]

ask that in discussion

[acoustic osprey]

Question is. If Replicator ONLY replicates, what creates in the first place?

My theory is that "replication" is less about replication the first physical copy
But replication of the genetically created code for "X" animal, for Replicator to Replicate than produce

[nocturne cosmos]

Nah I think the scientists did most of that work but maybe at a certain point they got replicatier to take over

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-and-the-holy-grail-message-for-you-sir-fainted-message-message-for-you-gif-12275683

[swift echo]

The Replicator? have any of yall seen this before?

[lethal moat]

It's a camera that the replicatoer watches through, or rather a painting of one in this case

[swift echo]

ye i figured as much

[rustic nexus]

How does the replicator even gain sentience if its job is only to replicate

[pale marsh]

I'd wager It was probably already sentient. And simply choose to defect from whatever AE wanted

[rapid chasm]

AI

[acoustic osprey]

Old one, yes.
Motif we've seen now with the camera

[swift echo]

ty for the clarification O Great Raptor Jesus Lore Master

[orchid sky]

want to say that I think for generation 1

bone are going to be armer

armor*

[strange shell]

Weapons are more likely
Bones are quite impractical to make armors out of

[edgy pike]

Maces made of stego and anky tails when

[strange shell]

I'd rather make a spear than a mace with a stego's tail

[lethal moat]

Femur bones are more viable

[pale marsh]

Macuahuitls made using theropod teeth tho

[celest coyote]

you could make a SICK bola using raptor sickle claws

they would all catch on each other and tangle

that or you could make the Darkest Dungeon bounty hunter rope spike

[modern rover]

hypsi spit gun

i pick up hypsi

use it as a gun

[lethal moat]

Unfortunately, limited magazine and lack of full auto means it isn't as effective as it could be

[modern rover]

sounds like quitter talk

[lethal moat]

Monolophosaurus has a wider spread tho

[hexed flax]

Not sure if this qualifies, but at 6:04 in the trailer you can hear a Rex and Giga broadcast

[fallow harbor]

just a teaser

[edgy pike]

anything relevant from this? havent updated yet

[fluid escarp]

There

[crystal cairn]

any thoughts on some of the new ambient noises?

[grim condor]

schizophrenic dinos are real

[acoustic osprey]

are you sure that was a Rex and Giga?

[modern rover]

pretty sure that was a few carnos

[hexed flax]

No doubt. Rex 3 call and Giga Broadcast when you are 300 meters away from them. The Rex sound starts just before the camera switches to the Utah mauling the baby Galli

[acoustic osprey]

No, those sounds just sound like instruments

[acoustic osprey]

minute detail and not really lore
but lore enough because humans

but docks was slightly touched in 6.5

I believe it's just the road, which has been raised
Nothing crazy. It's just pretty funny

[crystal cairn]

explored that place before 6.5 because honestly thought they may take it out

[long onyx]

i wonder if theyll ever add the docks to spiro

i asked uga once but i dont think he understood my question

[rapid chasm]

Gateway will have docks

[tranquil willow]

They are brainwashing the dinos

[warm zinc]

Wow

[crystal cargo]

OMG GOD GİLCH !

[maiden sundial]

That's your gpu my dude

@crystal cargo his GPU got deep fried.

[crystal cargo]

[maiden sundial]

Rip the homie

[dire sapphire]

I have great lore idea

So basically there is a corporation that goes to an island en makes experiments. These experiments result in the creation of prehistoric creatures (dinosaurs) that now roam the island. So, they create more and more and more until the island is full. But that’s when KRATOS and master chief team up and tame the beast in the new fortnite chapter and get the maven auto shotgun. So then the other 98 players on the island will die and victory Royale. 🤯🤯🤯

[acoustic osprey]

either Vis means Gateway is just the map they'll worry about for now
or that Gateway is being used as the "gateway" for other maps- Aka, the building modular being made in Gateway being used as a template for Spiro's future rework

although, we know Vis has worked on/touched upon dock buildings
As we've seen both concept art and a few models for such

[acoustic osprey]

I believe it's just nanite being buggy about the map

although, might not be.

[vale parcel]

do yall think that tribals could get tracking stuff if they kill a monolophosaurus or whatever the one with the smelly ability is

[acoustic osprey]

Yes, Mono.
But, that's an interesting question.
Just how would that be done? (not the tracking aspect, but gaining the tracking aspect?)

[vale parcel]

im assuming if theyre harvesting bones and stuff like that from corpses they could harvest specific organs as well, and maybe use the fluid to tip arrows or ranged projectiles or something along those lines

[pale marsh]

In a vaguely similar idea
I've had the idea of mono snot being flammable

[vale parcel]

that would be sick ngl

[vale parcel]

i wonder if there’ll be flaming arrows being shot at dinosaurs now that you say that

or like a flamethrower for the apollo peeps

[pale marsh]

I like the idea or monos using their snot to set torch wielding tribals on fire

[vale parcel]

yea that’d be sick

[rapid chasm]

@acoustic osprey yo, i think we;re on another planet

or thats the death star

idk

[quick pagoda]

I was thinking that it was just the moon but waaaay closer for some reason? but I like your idea better lol

[rapid chasm]

the moon should be far

[quick pagoda]

Yeah ik

[drifting saddle]

Lore

[quick pagoda]

Real

[drifting saddle]

Real lore

[oblique surge]

there's a bug that causes a second massive moon to appear temporarily

[sand seal]

That’s a cool bug.

[spiral edge]

Why you drowning it 😭 😭 😭

[drifting saddle]

It’s a growing Dino egg in water thing

[spiral edge]

https://tenor.com/view/joke-jk-penguin-laugh-its-was-a-joke-gif-14574338

[rapid chasm]

What if it is not a bug but intentional?

[oblique surge]

hmmm yeah you're right, if only the devs had talked about known issues somewhere we wouldn't have any doubt
oh well

[rapid chasm]

I only look at the Lore category and general feedback, too much channels

[oblique surge]

always a good idea to read the patchnotes when an update drops

[stoic dome]

is this the isle?

[lyric marsh]

yess its in the game right now

[cinder shoal]

they also removed the funny car

[icy onyx]

oh no

[tranquil willow]

yes

[pseudo forge]

Always thought it was a giant cracker

[jade ingot]

nice bugs map

[acoustic osprey]

Wrong channel

[stoic dome]

hmm i see

[queen plaza]

The Isle is a simulation

where real humans ar etrapped as dinosaurs

[potent wyvern]

The isle is actually just a child playing with toys and we’re all actually controlled by Timmy the 5 year old on an endless cycle of death

[thin bolt]

that would explain the deep & hidden lore i guess 🤷

[potent wyvern]

It’s all a child’s imagination 👶🏻

[thin bolt]

it would be so cool if it was canon tho

[potent wyvern]

👶 timmy in question

[royal folio]

Actual lore question we probably have an answer too but

What year would you guys argue The Isle is set on?

Cause it modern enough to have cloning and Mutants but weapons and such are still pretty "present time" in a way

[mint igloo]

Prob the 90s

[royal folio]

Danm,i imagined something more like the 2050 or something

[noble harbor]

Lmfao

[ocean cove]

the dinosaurs are among us

[steel flume]

Plot twist, they're all robots in Dinoworld, an extension of Westworld.

[chrome acorn]

westworld

[upbeat burrow]

I need help my dinosaur got stuck, can any admin help me

[wicked onyx]

I think thats the astroid that killed the dinosaurs tbh.

[vale parcel]

The pannels falling off is new right?

[crisp raven]

oh wait

never realized that

OH WAIT. you may be right

[vale parcel]

And I swear the orange light was in a different place, and it was blinking in different paterns like morse code or something

[crisp raven]

😱

[vivid pewter]

so is there a good compilation of lore (including theories) for beginners to understand?

[calm axle]

its at least 2076 ish

[outer verge]

Check the pins

[past parcel]

isle v3 and theyna and isla spiro are different islands where dinosaurs live and u could go to them if the borders wernt a thing. thats my theory

[native imp]

We don't know what exact year it is based on, but some written documents reveal that these were written after 2100, so that may be the closest date or a further one.

[royal folio]

Impressed that in soo many years they dont use rail guns and futuristic weapons

[native imp]

Well, technology may not have changed that much, it's a military aspect.

[royal folio]

If im dealing with mutant dinos that can crunch a jeep like it was a can, i would FOR SURE get the last of military advancements

Unless the mercenaries on the Isle are stranded in some Sort of way.

[native imp]

Well, think that the game is in development, maybe they will add more advanced weapons than the conventional ones

[royal folio]

I fear for our dinos if a human platoon gets a Machine gum

[merry talon]

Theory: Troodons are secretly gods beyond our comprehension

[twin idol]

Nope that's always been there lol, just kinda dark if you don't have your brightness turned up

[icy onyx]

👍

[modern rover]

cool screenshots but i dont think this is lore

[wide bramble]

still good screenies doe

[vale parcel]

oh

[chrome acorn]

development lore

[acoustic osprey]

Yes.
Check the pins and have a look at my document
or look at HellShades' for old lore and new lore (more of an archive)

[acoustic osprey]

which panels falling off?

[vale parcel]

The bottom ones, adn the wires around the the human, and dinosaur selections

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah, as Cleric said, always been like that

[acoustic osprey]

If you look into the stylistic set of The Isle
It's basically akin to 1990s industrial, even a bit of 80s

We even have a CRT PC ||with a modern PC Tower. And the CRT is also 4k. But ignore that||

But, in-lore?
Technically, there is the date of 12/9, 12/7 and 12/8
The year being 2172

I think it's also definitely valid to say that The Isle is in it's own universe
Which means, it doesn't have to conform to our measure of the calender system.
Or, that our 1990s for us is their 2170s

Being, Earth (?).
Not like that really matters anyways

[split sentinel]

https://tenor.com/view/get-real-spin-o-saurus-dinosaur-gif-21135435

[shell spire]

Nuh uh

[icy onyx]

I mean if we dont count our "created" dinosaurs the only dino in The isle is a chicken

[primal berry]

nice stuck in a rock

how can i get out

[modern rover]

lots of not lore recently

[primal berry]

oke

[plain notch]

if megalania gets added to evrima im gonna be so happy

[turbid zodiac]

that big komodo dragon looking thing?

[modern rover]

its planned

[errant trout]

this ain't lore

[meager junco]

I think I’ve seen around a dozen stuck people here just in the last few days, it’s like no one learns lol

[paper gale]

Same tbh

Finna be climbing trees all day

[turbid zodiac]

Yeah I mean megalania would be cool but at the same time that doesn't fit the vibe I'd imagine for the isle as a whole

[acoustic osprey]

Lore only please

It still fits
I mean. It has no reason not to fit yet

We don't even know why they're using dinosaurs, so who knows why they're using megalania

[unborn atlas]

Mega's lore is it's a man-eater, tis shown eating one in le concept art

[pale marsh]

Modern(ish) day

So closer to Jurassic park type beat. Vaguely

[rapid chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/get-real-spin-o-saurus-dinosaur-gif-21135435

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-lore-theories message

If you look into the stylistic set of The Isle
It's basically akin to 1990s industrial, even a bit of 80s

We even have a CRT PC ||with a modern PC Tower. And the CRT is also 4k. But ignore that||

But, in-lore?
Technically, there is the date of 12/9, 12/7 and 12/8
The year being 2172
I think it's also definitely valid to say that The Isle is in it's own universe
Which means, it doesn't have to conform to our measure of the calender system.
Or, that our 1990s for us is their 2170s

Being, Earth (?).
Not like that really matters anyways

[steel summit]

How do you guys think The Replicator works if you have to guess.

[acoustic osprey]

Excluding that she produces things

My theory is that her "replication" is less about replication the first physical copy of the product
But replication of the genetically created code for "X" animal, for Replicator to Replicate than produce

[steel summit]

that would make sense

[devout mauve]

is it to much to ask for someone to give me a summery of isle lore?

[maiden sundial]

It is not. I'll give a somewhat brief summary of what we know thats possibly in evrima.

Æ aka apollo engineering is a pharmaceutical company on as a front with a genetics labs behind the scenes. At some point they find the replicator and make the dinosaurs. The dinosaurs do change over time with populations. They also try to make the perfect human. And make the strains like the hyperendocrines neurotenics and tissoplastics.

One of these strains is known as echidna. Who is likely the motherly figure to one of the strains. The eyeless. A humanoid creature with no eyes. They also made the tribals. Known as gen 1. Which were a failed prototype of the perfect human

[devout mauve]

Mhmm

[maiden sundial]

Then at some point. The tribals and likely eyeless rebel and kick Æ off the islands. Only for them to return with the gen 2 a working prototype of their perfect human idea to survey the islands. Maybe.

Essentially this is all we have for the lore

[devout mauve]

Okay thanks

Are the cannibals still a thing?

[maiden sundial]

Cannibals are also known as the eyeless

[devout mauve]

Ah okay that makes sense

[maiden sundial]

Or tribals. Depending on who you ask.

[devout mauve]

Thanks!

Does V3 and Isla Spiro exist in this universe or only Isla Spiro

[maiden sundial]

Iirc it's only isla spiro and gateway which we don't know the true name of yet

[devout mauve]

Okay

So Thenyaw and V3 were like tests/placeholders for the game but Isla Spiro is the actual island for the lore

And Gateway

[acoustic osprey]

never be afraid to search "Lightclaw" in this channel

[acoustic osprey]

Here is pretty much the basics

AE (Apollo Engineering) is a bio-engineering company
AE made dinosaurs. AE also made mutated (strained) dinosaurs.
This took place all around the 90s (approximate)

AE also made mutated humans
- When? Who knows, but we can presume during AE's "Prime" in the 90s (?)
- These humans are known as "Tribals"/Cannibals/Generation One

Tribals slowly went crazy and mad per cycle

Sometime later, around current modern times, AE makes Generation Two
- Generation Two are also known as "Mercs" ||just to clarify, they aren't mercenaries any longer||/Humans
There is soo much more. But some of it is speculative canon and some of it is unconfirmed canon (lore from Legacy that we don't know will be in Evrima)

[devout mauve]

Lightclaw?

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[devout mauve]

Ty

[rustic urchin]

Is there any template yet for making our own versions of these?

[acoustic osprey]

I made one

[acoustic osprey]

yes, I remember seeing this a short while ago.
They're fun but heavily unrealistic for the artstyle of AE

a bit too futuristic and sleak

[rapid chasm]

is there any other unoffical concepts arts that have cars?

im looking for something to model

[acoustic osprey]

Nothing with high detail

[rapid chasm]

doesnt matter,

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/664914260648001555/872617776420900875/image0.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/664914260648001555/872617920721731614/image3.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1003091745984233563/1019760191585136791/Pad_Concept.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1003091745984233563/1078217848922574858/Dome_Interior.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1003091745984233563/1078217848540889138/Exterior_C.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1003091745984233563/1103137700095209532/IMG_6551.png

[elder notch]

Imagine the possibilities with that truck

[chrome acorn]

Did you see this btw

[rustic urchin]

WHAT

[chrome acorn]

I only saw it yesterday

apparently viz dropped it but I wasn’t there

[rustic urchin]

Welp time to try and guess the gun ig

[chrome acorn]

I think I already did

Or at least what heavily inspired it

Sig

[rustic urchin]

Yeah that’s what I was probably thinking

[chrome acorn]

yea if we’re sticking with the based off real guns but with a little personal touch thing

also the two guns shown off have been US marine standard issue at some point interestingly

If I’m right about the pistol being a m18 sorta thing

And to clear confusion to someone reading this the p320 is basically the civilian version of the m18

[rustic urchin]

M17 or m18 I forget

[chrome acorn]

Even though you can buy a p320 m18 but yknow…. pistols

[rustic urchin]

Either way fine guns

And for all the lore buffs

That handgun is pretty recent

Like 2010s

[chrome acorn]

^

I wonder if we’ll get a certain Italian made US marine standard issue shotgun at some point

alas the spas 12 will probably ruin that but I can dream

[rustic urchin]

Maybe the benelli will be a bit higher tier if it got added

[chrome acorn]

Perhaps

[rapid chasm]

m17

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-discussion message
#isle-discussion message

[chrome acorn]

un redact it

[rustic urchin]

Apparently it’s name is Ss something

[chrome acorn]

Sig sauer

Sig sauer p320

[rustic urchin]

Oh yeah that could be what he means by SS

[chrome acorn]

It fits

[rustic urchin]

Didn’t think of that

[chrome acorn]

Sig sauer p320 m18/17 even

[rustic urchin]

I think it’s m18

[chrome acorn]

Not huge differences either way

[rustic urchin]

Yeah especially in video game context

Having a slightly easier to conceal pistol doesn’t really do anything here

[chrome acorn]

Yea very true

[rustic urchin]

But yeah since m18 has the barrel extend beyond the main frame/rails and m17 doesn’t, ours seems to be closer to m18

But I think for most guns they’re gonna say “highly based on X” since copyright or something

[chrome acorn]

honestly a good pick for a sidearm

[rustic urchin]

That’s what lots of other games do, take an irl gun and change the name a bit and make a tiny change to its look

[chrome acorn]

the honey badger

[rustic urchin]

sig pistols are great so good to see. Not a huge fan of p320 just because of the feel in hand/look of it but it’s definitely a good one

[chrome acorn]

something something reliable

Cant give something to the marines that’s easy to break

[rustic urchin]

Yeah plus it has a lot of safety systems

[inland ridge]

what if AE made humans because they knew they would die off because of the dinos

and ended up making tribals and eyeless and only one good human

[modern rover]

That really wouldn't make sense

What does a medical company gain from feeding artificial humans to dinos

[chrome acorn]

would also mean the dinosaurs somehow beat the world governments

[modern rover]

Seems like a massive sunken cost

[inland ridge]

well not exacly feeding them more of being able to survive just a tiny bit longer

more like one last idea to keep man kind alive

[modern rover]

okay but it really doesn't make sense to base your decisions on how humans perform against a non-factor beyond the islands

dinosaurs are only a risk on the specific islands AE makes dinos on

in the regular world, they are a non-issue

and even then, specialising humans to survive animal accounts for one of the lowest forms of death in modern day, especially if said animals are extinct beyond the scope of AE's islands

[inland ridge]

or AE pulled the biggest oopsie daisy known to man and just magically released eyeless and tribals on some dino infested island

[modern rover]

i think that tribals are a failed experiment the replicator grew a liking to

while AE moved on to create more advanced and realistic humans, the replicator got these guys to worship and serve it

and since its primary function is quite literally replication, it could make as many as it wanted

eyeless also seem like an unintended creation

[inland ridge]

yeah i dont know what sane person would create the eyeless purposely

[chrome acorn]

Not a who

A what

the replicator and or mother echidna ( maybe )

[modern rover]

eyeless were made by either the Echidna or the replicator as a reward for the most loyal tribals

[inland ridge]

hopefully when gen2's and gen1's they kinda are the complete opposite
gen 2 will hopefully be running and hiding using some lethel weapons here and there
and gen 1's are kinda like super human and can compete with dinos and dont need cooked meat to eat

[ancient musk]

holy father isaac teach me your ways 🙏

I wish to learn

[chrome acorn]

There’s also this

#isle-lore-theories message

[ancient musk]

gimme dat

bouta deep dive in to some 8 year old dinosaur game lore

[rapid chasm]

SS P, its a p320

[meager junco]

gonna guess this is a glitch but resembled a planet too much to not put it in here, think this means anything?

[acoustic osprey]

well, we know AE made humans and played God.
Unlike with Tribals, they were actually successful with Gen2s

[ancient musk]

wait we all know that dilo noises have been heard by streamers during the very first part of stress test. We also know that dondi had recently reconfirmed colosus and echidna. (This is a really big stretch) but what if those dilo noises the streamers heard was a dev hinting the existence of echidna trying to lore prey. ( As I said REALLY long stretch)

[acoustic osprey]

We'd assume Echidna "luring" people less through Dilos and more through human sounds.

From what I've seen from the devs.
It's less linked with lore with what they have done
and more them teasing it.

They did the same with playables such as Ptera and Deino prior to their release as well

Could Echidna use Dilo sounds to lure in prey? Definitely
But even then, I'd imagine it using baby sounds and herbivore/smaller animal sounds

[ancient musk]

that makes sense thanks im really interested in these mutants right now like the non canon reaper, colosus, and echidna.

[acoustic osprey]

who said they were non canon

https://tenor.com/view/anonymiss-no-face-anonymity-gif-14784709

[ancient musk]

im in for a long night of lore videos and docs

[acoustic osprey]

If you watch any lore videos, you'll be fed with Legacy info.
Go ahead if you want, but just remember most/if not all specific stuff isn't going to be canon

My doc is for accurate lore and HellShade's doc is for everything that's been archived

have fun

[ancient musk]

I will try

[acoustic osprey]

good good

[tender dock]

https://clan.cloudflare.steamstatic.com/images//10915315/edfbd083ad23f6f8844dca1ce61f9bf8183b9899.jpg

gonna have doubts about this one but maybe the big text has meaning or might just be some random mumbo jumbo

best bet its a name but idk idc just excited to see some stuff about humans
my translation for the two seconds imma spend on this is that it says "Loreni Epshin"

[acoustic osprey]

Lorum Ipsum

Was used in Gateway

Lorum Ipsum is Apple's filler text whenever they want to make something have text

[tender dock]

I see an e after that r

[acoustic osprey]

It's Lorum Ipsum

[tender dock]

yeah

Lorem Ipsum not Lorum

[tender dock]

had me confused for a sec yeah ik

my brain dont brain at this hour

[acoustic osprey]

lorem ipsum

lorem or lorum, it's still just filler text

and nothing cool

[tender dock]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-so-sad-gif-25352430

[acoustic osprey]

quite so

[chrome acorn]

Well now we know it’s a p226 and it’s still sig sauer so we were pretty close

Also the P226 was made in the 80s so do what you want with that info

alr Ik this is very picky considering language differences but this is bothering me

[shell echo]

why did you have to point that out

i was so happy with being oblivious.

[chrome acorn]

[modern rover]

I don't see the problem

It's just a good ol' fashioned lever action bolt rifle

[shell echo]

[rustic urchin]

I think we were pretty close considering how blurry our original was

Didn’t show the hammer either

[chrome acorn]

Yea same company just one of their 80s handguns which I think was the predecessor to what we thought it was

[rapid chasm]

NOOO WTF

[chrome acorn]

It was a typo viz was tired

[inland ridge]

hopefully guns are rarely found usable and if not they are damaged and need repairs like using a ram rod and stuff works and if the gun is at 50% health it jams alot and doesnt fire sometimes

[tender dock]

dinos will more than likely be able to smell the gunshot residue when a gun is fired and if anything that could stay on the human for a little while making being tracked easier. besides humans are small and very much a group animal. we sweat too creating body odor along with carrying equipment just makes you slower or traversing deep water much harder.

[rapid chasm]

nah, not how guns work irl

irrc they'll prob need cleaning like dayz and tarkov

[tender dock]

depends on the weapons storing conditions and how much it was used in the field, but yeah theyll probably go with some cleaning system like rdr2

[acoustic osprey]

Wrong channel

[slow sleet]

you're right!

❌

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/jeff-goldblum-gif-24087749

[tender dock]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-mod-mod-redditor-text-channels-gif-21711861

[swift echo]

this still unanswered?

[brazen inlet]

Does the game happen a week before the meteor and can you see it in the sky?

[crystal cargo]

I think they'd better not remove it, they'd be referring to star wars

[fallow harbor]

prolly differant active AE bases/locations. this might hint as us getting maps that are themed from that area

[fringe marsh]

The meteor?

The Isle doesn't take place during the Mesozoic period. The dinosaurs are man-made in the modern day. Well actually I think they were made during the 80's or smth like that but you get the idea.

[inland ridge]

it was an example not a fact

[rapid chasm]

the death star

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-rogue-one-death-star-galactic-empire-battle-station-gif-17503551

[brittle trellis]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-jedi-ready-im-here-gif-19639785

[acoustic osprey]

Because it has no meaning

No true meaning

[fallow harbor]

my theroy is that they were made during the 90's but it was abandoned hence everything being broken and the game takes place in modern day maybe with AE sending people to go back to re-invetigate the dinosaurs

[fringe marsh]

I believe that's true.

[crisp raven]

“Firstly, these beings are like no other animal, if you can even call them that. They’re vile, mean, cunning and smart as hell. And what really sets them apart from your average animal… They think. They plan. They calculate. They’re not entirely instinctive, they’re like us, sentient."

[swift echo]

did you make that quote? either way it's really good

[crisp raven]

yes

i made it

[keen onyx]

That’s literally one of the best quotes I’ve ever heard

[icy onyx]

okay just saw this channel

someone drop all of the lore on me because i know someone knows everything- gimme chronological 😂

[chrome acorn]

#isle-lore-theories message

That’s most of everything pretty sure

Isaac can likely answer questions of you have any he is the lore man

[acoustic osprey]

If you'd like a summary, you can have one if you want

[acoustic osprey]

Or you can check the pinned messages!!

[acoustic osprey]

Here is pretty much the basics

AE (Apollo Engineering) is a bio-engineering company
AE made dinosaurs. AE also made mutated (strained) dinosaurs.
This took place all around the 90s (approximate)

AE also made mutated humans
- When? Who knows, but we can presume during AE's "Prime" in the 90s (?)
- These humans are known as "Tribals"/Cannibals/Generation One

Tribals slowly went crazy and mad per cycle

Sometime later, around current modern times, AE makes Generation Two
- Generation Two are also known as "Mercs" ||just to clarify, they aren't mercenaries any longer||/Humans
There is soo much more. But some of it is speculative canon and some of it is unconfirmed canon (lore from Legacy that we don't know will be in Evrima)

[chrome acorn]

Where do you think I got the link

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/ben-folds-the-sopranos-road-to-respect-rockin-the-suburbs-i-take-the-checks-and-face-the-facts-some-producer-with-computers-gif-2324152662366616759

[swift echo]

do we have a Replicator cave art/paintings montage?

[acoustic osprey]

yes and no

we don't know what is truly "Replicator art"
but we have cave art that could be The Replicator

[swift echo]

that is yes?

[acoustic osprey]

Well, no

Because we don't know if it is The Replicator

[swift echo]

then... do we have cave art of the weird camera-like object?

[acoustic osprey]

in-game, there is only a Ptera artwork and the other one in the cave

[brazen inlet]

ohhhhh

[brazen inlet]

pog

[ocean ingot]

[swift echo]

||archive for future purposes; keyword The Replicator||

[static locust]

It's probably the exact story, word for word, as Jurassic Park. In fact, there's no doubt in my mind.

[ocean ingot]

it's the devs

[swift echo]

nope! In The Isle's story, AE- which is the company that made the dinosaurs, strains, and human mutants- aims for a 'perfect human', as in increasing beauty/strength/behavior/etc. As twisted as some of these experiments may be- AE isn't your common evil corporation. No idea as to how, though. AE contributes some of its achivements to a deity called The Replicator, which the mutant humans worship in a weird way I don't really have the time to explain. And there's also something to do with a thousand life contract, but that hasn't been unveiled.

[ocean ingot]

I know that's not a giant snake I see

[swift echo]

might be

[ocean ingot]

[ocean ingot]

Dear God why

[unborn atlas]

It got canceled recently by one of the devs

[ocean ingot]

What did you do?

And is this the place to talk about it?

[fluid roost]

titanoboa did?

[unborn atlas]

Filipe said it during a Q&A stream a week or so before 6.5 dropped, and iirc a second dev also confirmed it to be scrapped as well

[dusky valley]

Damn I wanted it in the game

Why did they scrapped it

[modern rover]

snake requires entirely different locomotion and controls

as well as needing to animate a snake

[maiden sundial]

Which is very. Very. Very difficult.

[dusky valley]

That’s a shame it would be a unique playable

But even then the devs can be lazy

[rapid chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-yourself-diy-camgirl-cloud-bio-design-step-up-gif-19672277

do it yourself

model a snake, animate it, and script it

its not lazy its hard

its incredibly hard

[acoustic osprey]

remember to keep this channel to lore

https://tenor.com/view/green-goblin-spiderman1-misery-misery-misery-thats-what-youve-chosen-gif-24284926

[dusky valley]

True

But if they did put it into the game and gave it a hyperendocrin form what would it look like

[swift echo]

size non accurate

[dusky valley]

I was thinking about a basilisk sort of look

Not a giant insect

[swift echo]

armor and aggressive as hell is what I was going for, but yes, it'd obviously be a reptile

[dusky valley]

Yea true and since it’s evrima they would give both variants venom

[swift echo]

that'd probably be in Tissoplastic titanoboa, but that could happen. I would say if Tapwing made a Hyper snake- a hyper titanoboa- it'd be a constrictor and would lack venom

[dusky valley]

True but if normal titanoboa was in the game they might give it venom to make it viable

[swift echo]

perhaps

[dusky valley]

Still I would love a giant playable snake in the game

[rapid chasm]

to hard to curate and add lol

[dusky valley]

True but beast of Bermuda have a prototype for snake movement

[acoustic osprey]

think Hyperendocrin Deino fan ideas

[dusky valley]

And I heard they are scrapping other unique playables for generic theropods. Or at planning too

[acoustic osprey]

which

[dusky valley]

I was thinking about a basilisk look

[dusky valley]

Wydm like which animal is getting scrapped or which theropod

[acoustic osprey]

Which unique playables

[dusky valley]

I think megalaina and some others I can’t remember

But let’s hope they don’t do that

[acoustic osprey]

Mega is still coming

[dusky valley]

That’s good

[acoustic osprey]

aye

[dusky valley]

I wouldn’t care if that scrap Alberta or sucho

Cause in Alberta’s concept art it doesn’t do anything unique

[glossy quest]

So do we know if we arent actually playing as normal humans, and rather genetically modified, like the titans? To fight against dinos?

[shell echo]

There seem to be two different types of humans, generation one and two. Two are normal people as far as I'm away, not sure what gen 1 looks like.

[glossy quest]

So in the lore video, you see the echidna etc, that would make sense to play as when fighting other dinos, because a human obviously wouldnt really manage

But then we are delving deep into scifi survival horror genre

[normal tide]

Might as well be playing Oakwood when playing human in The Isle, lmao.

[glossy quest]

So thats why it doesnt make sense that the humans would have no standing leg against dinos, then why would you play as a human

[shell echo]

once they add actual weapons to humans, I'm sure more people will actually want to play them.

[glossy quest]

oh weapons..I guess.

Would be much cooler though to be a titan

[strange shell]

Generation 2 are genetically modified as well

[shell echo]

I think the man draw for humans though will be the Survival Horror aspect.

[strange shell]

They are kinda like a perfected version of gen 1
Less dum-dum

[normal tide]

Okay but if they add a gun I don't think no dinosaur gonna trespass on my property again unless they want this buckshot in they brain.

[glossy quest]

But there has to be a point right? to being human? Why would they create all the interiors, if we are going to be outside all the time surviving.

[shell echo]

I guarantee that the fully grown T rex will not care.

[glossy quest]

Surely as human it would be to collect samples or something

[shell echo]

I think the human gameplay loop will be, hunt the smol dinos, hide from the big ones.

[strange shell]

According to what the devs have said there will be building maintenance/repairing
Also there's where you will find most of the loot

[glossy quest]

I mean it could be that its a test environment for the corporations, for their genetically enhanced humans

[strange shell]

I don't think (or hope) that the firearms will have any other use than self-defense. It's been said before that generation 2 could digest dinosaur meat, so there wouldn't really be a point in hunting them.
Gen 1 are another story though...

[normal tide]

My elephant gun loaded with 84 caliber begs to differ.

[glossy quest]

Maybe the humans can transform into the dinos in some way. Like in the lore vid, they have been created already it seems

[shell echo]

Oi, you said buckshot first. And thats if such high caliber weapons are implemented lol

[strange shell]

Not into dinos, but Gen 1 will have the ability to "evolve" to some extent

[glossy quest]

Ok this seems most likely to me to

I wonder if it will be map dependant, its seems like something that would happen for tartarus

[shell echo]

I'm slightly confused by what you mean. They can digest dino meat so why wouldn't they hunt them? I'm sure it would be easier to find them than plants since no scent tracking.

[strange shell]

I don't know why would anyone want to have part of a faction's gameplay be restricted to a specific map...
Also we don't know what tartarus is

[strange shell]

couldn't*
Typo

[shell echo]

Thats kinda silly then.

[glossy quest]

Well the theory is its an area that contains monsters according to greek mythology. Having transforming humans loosed into a map to test against dinosaurs sounds like a good fit for it

[strange shell]

Im not sure I could digest the meat of a genetically modified mutants from millions of years ago either
Yet I love meat

[normal tide]

Even if I said "buckshot" it doesn't change the fact that its a semi-automatic Benelli M4, So what if it takes more than one shell to crack a spine in two?

[strange shell]

The thing is
AE doesn't seem to still be really in control of what happens on the island so far...

Hence the abandoned buildings and facilities, and the rampaging mutants

[glossy quest]

But this may be what phoenix corp want, they might want to test their own breeds

[shell echo]

I'd be skeptical of buckshot against dinosaurs. If you could hit the eyes, maybe, but I'd be doubtful of really stopping it hitting it anywhere else.

[glossy quest]

I guess there is still too many unknown links

[normal tide]

Ok what about 10 gauge.

[glossy quest]

But corporate espionage sounds like a good start

[shell echo]

I would most certainly try.

[glossy quest]

Mega tyrannous sounds awesome

[mint igloo]

Wasn't Primal Carnage lore discontinued from the game?

[normal tide]

I think so.

[shell echo]

Large game is typically up in the nitro express range. For most large dinos, that is probably what you would need, but that would be a slow weapon, and likely to knock yourself on your ass when shooting. HOWEVER, Smaller caliber arms could be more effective on smaller dino's like Troodons, omnis etc.

[strange shell]

Phoenix Corp is no longer canon

[strange shell]

It was

[glossy quest]

oh, so that lore video is outdated? 😦

[strange shell]

yes

[shell echo]

I just want my spino from the Hope video... :(

[strange shell]

Everything we have on lore is outdated
But don't worry Dondi is planning to give us a massive lore drop in June

[glossy quest]

Is there another one? Of more current lore?

ohh okay

[strange shell]

I don't think so

[normal tide]

I don't know why I thought of this at this message but I think I just had a monkey brain moment.
What if the humans had suits that acted like chainsaw protection pants/beekeeper suits that would get small game, like troodons, unable to penetrate skin and can quickly be put down if they get stuck in the fibers.
Kinda like a human spiderweb or something lmao.
(yes I know this is a stretch)

[glossy quest]

Im more inclined to believe that the genetically modified humans, will have dinosaur traits enhanced in them, so like tougher skin, stronger arms and legs, increased stamina etc

If that tartarus stuff is to be believed that is

But if this lore is all retconned, then I dunno

[normal tide]

I don't think any joe schmo is gonna punch anything as big or bigger than Ceratosaurs...

[shell echo]

Armor makes sense. Perhaps so you don't just immediately die to some random dino, but still won't do much to help with things like blunt force; gali kick, deino/t rex bite, etc

[glossy quest]

No not punch, but wield experimental weaponry able to kill dinosaurs.

Id imagine stuff like miniguns etc

[normal tide]

Could make a repellent system with plant matter to give dinosaurs certain debuffs that would give human players a chance. Or like a dinosaur bear spray?

[shell echo]

unless you are wearing something like the grizzly bear attack protection suit, but that doesnt give you much range of movement XD

[glossy quest]

I think a high caliber, armor penetrating minigun, would devour a dinosaur

[normal tide]

You think?

[glossy quest]

oh yes, I think miniguns can tear through trees at the moment

[shell echo]

Would have to be an emplacement. Perhaps to keep dinos out of certain places like facilities.

[glossy quest]

thats where the dino enhanced humans come in

[normal tide]

They'll tear through tanks and send you to space.

[glossy quest]

Lol, minigun fire, striking fear into trexes and spinos

Run!

[shell echo]

While that would be fun, you'd probably move very slowly with it/ have limited ammo.

[glossy quest]

Yeah most likely

[normal tide]

This is starting to look like Ark but the main player base in dinosaurs.

[glossy quest]

This is exactly where my thoughts are leading to

[shell echo]

Now, if humans and dino's could have symbosis, that would be neat.

[glossy quest]

UNLESS the human faction has AI spawns maybe as well

That would be interesting, AI soldiers collecting specimens(us as dinos)

[normal tide]

Ok but if we're genetically modifying superhuman people to beat a Deinosuchus in a wrestling match like a proud Floridian resident I doubt.

[normal tide]

Technically thats all up to the servers rules and what the players wanna do tbh.

[shell echo]

Until there are actual benefits that humans can provide dinos other than being nutrients.

[glossy quest]

I wonder if the genetically modified humans, are just prepared humans for their consciousnesses to be uploaded to dinos.. Because thats what happens when we play as a dino, we are a conciousness uploaded. Maybe the humans need to undergo the genetic modification first. The human faction is just us before upload?

[normal tide]

Medicines?
Steroids?

[shell echo]

Now this is a hilarious mental image, but a little bit too crazy.

[glossy quest]

I dunno man, have you seen the matriarch and echidna

[shell echo]

That could work! Such as mending fractured bones, or healing injured dinos

Dino medics

[shell echo]

I have not actually.

[glossy quest]

oh no human dino mixpacking!

[glossy quest]

Straight out of a space movie

[normal tide]

Give dinosaur players a reason to work with humans. You could eat the guy but if you don't you might have a makeshift tf2 pocket medic on your side, lol.

[shell echo]

It's not mixpacking, its "Conservation"

[normal tide]

"Guys, no, you cannot tame the dinosaurs. They are wild animals."

[glossy quest]

Introducing deino 2.0

So these are what are contained in Tartarus, which im assuming is one of the secret labs on one of the islands

[normal tide]

What in the raid boss.

[glossy quest]

Yeah man, imagine playing as one of these on the human side

[normal tide]

doggy🥰

[glossy quest]

So if this is the direction they go, where humans are enhanced into half dino hybrids, then we have a fighting chance

[normal tide]

A fighting chance on foot.

[shell echo]

I'm not sure if that qualifies as a human anymore XD BUT it would be rather interesting to see how they'd interact with the more normal humans. I imagine it'll be as if you were playing the cannibals in The Forest.

[normal tide]

If humanity wanted to get rid of the dinosaurs on The Isle oh lawd.

[glossy quest]

Yes I think so to, but this is why I think gen 1 and 2, are like normal human, and then maybe these things

UNless these things are AI and roam the map

[shell echo]

I think it would be a shame for them to be Ai

[glossy quest]

But in the transmission, we see it talk of replication if successful. So it might be playable

[normal tide]

Guys it turns out the island is actually North Sentinel Island??

[glossy quest]

Oh woah. So reading the console logs, there are actually live specimens but limited, not more than 15 for some of them. So I dont think they will be broadly playable, but maybe like server limited?

[normal tide]

If they're adding ranged weapons such as guns then yeah definitely.

I mean humanity is a lot less limited than dinosaurs for an obvious reason and the devs could add basically anything for them to use.

[glossy quest]

Im going to assume we will get rocket launchers etc as well. I think humans will be able to team up to take down larger dinos

Honestly, it may just be a horror game for dinosaurs when the crazy humans are released

[normal tide]

Bear traps near carcasses, trip wire alarms/bombs, the ability to counter bacterial infections with medical equipment, anti-venoms are possible too.

[shell echo]

eeeeh, I think the main focus will still be the dinos being the horror game for the humans. I'm not expecting too much flashy stuff for them.

[glossy quest]

Yeah man, dinos are going to have a hard time

[normal tide]

Think of it as, weird comparison ik, but Amnesia: The Bunker

[glossy quest]

Thats the idea. But a 20 man team with rocket launchers will be terrifying

[normal tide]

You have a gun but its really unreliable and you have to take your shots carefully.

[shell echo]

Small arms and maybe melee will be the only thing they have probably.

[normal tide]

I think warheads like that will absolutely not be in the game.

[shell echo]

^

[normal tide]

Tryna turn it into Doom: Prehistoric 💀

[glossy quest]

But we have seen sniper rifles?

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[acoustic osprey]

This is old lore, just be aware

[glossy quest]

When I saw the sniper rifle, I started to think that there may be bigger guns on the way

[acoustic osprey]

Colossus is canon
But stuff like that, Transmissions, are not

[acoustic osprey]

Snipers are likely the largest/most powerful piece of weaponry we'll be getting

[strange shell]

Having a sniper rifle is a different thing than a rocket launcher

[acoustic osprey]

In 2020, we heard on stream we won't be getting explosives
That might change, but explosives are very hard to do
Especially to balance

[shell echo]

Snipers are small arms. Things like rocket launchers are not.

[strange shell]

(Although they did use rocket launchers against raptors in the Jurassic Park novel)

[glossy quest]

Oh I didnt know this,ok well thats that then

Seems odd for such a scientifically advanced era to not have that kinda tech against...dinosaurs thoiugh

[shell echo]

So, if humans get base building, do wonder if they will also get means to defend such things

traps could be interesting.

[acoustic osprey]

We know there won't be functional cages

But we could see electrified fences

Guns (sentry-based guns)

[glossy quest]

I mean there has to be a fighting chance for humans, or nobody would play them

[acoustic osprey]

Yes, guns are pretty good

You have the chance to miss ||especially in a multiplayer game with lag, it's a big one||
You have the chance to lose your ammo

but you're very powerful

Humans are practically glass cannons by definition

but

https://tenor.com/view/apes-together-strong-0p1sf-gif-20906166

[glossy quest]

Exciting times

[acoustic osprey]

Quite so

It actually seems rather close now
Impending

[shell echo]

Not only this, but some dinos are also hella fast and are highly more maneuverable. Like, good luck hitting a sprinting Troodon.

[strange shell]

Honestly that'd be a waste of bullets
Just kick it to death

[acoustic osprey]

And a lot of those things that are more manoeuvrable are more the size to be hunting humans too

[shell echo]

https://tenor.com/view/mando-way-mandalorian-star-wars-this-is-the-way-gif-18467372

[acoustic osprey]

Gotta stick together.
Even then, you can't cannibalise as a human
but you can, if you want, shoot whomever you don't like

[shell echo]

Can't cannibalize, thats quitter talk.

[acoustic osprey]

More intricacies.
Dealing with other humans

[shell echo]

Not sure if its confirmed, but humans having proximity chat sounds like it will be hilarious.

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/grug-croods-croods2-grugmoment-gif-19858242

[acoustic osprey]

VoIP is confirmed, so yes

I can only imagine the extreme Godfather-like scenarios of pure anarchy that will spawn

[shell echo]

It's gonna be hella funny listening to panicked humies as the troodon horde giggles around them.

[acoustic osprey]

That's what you get for staying outside

When Gen2s sound interesting, Gen1s (Tribals) sound even more interesting.

Guns? Cool
Sacrificing things to The Replicator, being 9ft and big monkey? That's what I'm talking about

[glossy quest]

Lol I’m imagining starship troopers

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[shell echo]

Gen 1's do sound fun. Can't wait to raid gen 2 camps with them.

[strange shell]

Gen 2 : Oh no we need guns to defend ourselves while we repair the facilities of the Island oh god why are all the dinos trying to kill us nowhere is safe but I can't trust anyone, and the night is coming already oh no
Gen 1 : Want banana, eat banana

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1125283647000412253/DiloJumpscare.gif

[glossy quest]

I’m down for a deino human hybrid.

[acoustic osprey]

just a big bonk session with the club
Wack 'em all

[strange shell]

It would be awesome if gen 1-thrown spears could impale people and send them flying back, and possibly pin them to trees

[acoustic osprey]

If only gore

[shell echo]

https://tenor.com/view/doom-guy-demon-2016-gif-10925418