isle-lore-theories

[icy onyx]

Well pethradons escape

From the concept art I think AE lost control of the setuation and some concept art shows that dinosaurs either sneaked into some places and killed AE members or

[gentle vessel]

Comparing ptera to irl ptera it seems less adapted for long distance flight. So maybe they purposely hampered their pterosaurs soaring abilities to keep em on the islands

[maiden sundial]

So quetzal isn't gonna soar well. Because irl quetzal was able to head to Africa

[fair agate]

I have a question: in future, dinosaurs (maybe female and I don’t think all of them), will somehow be able to carry or simply grab their little ones? I mean the babies of their family or nest.
In addition to being partly useful, in itself it is also normal for parents; especially for today’s crocodiles

[strange shell]

wrong channel
Also not decided yet

[fair agate]

Lol I’m stupid sorry

I thought I was in the right one Xd

[fringe marsh]

Tribals/cannibals/gen 1 are synonymous though not to be confused with the eyeless or the echidna/neurotrenic mastermind/cannibal mother.

[thorn prism]

Everyone discussing the isles deep lore. Me downloading it cause I saw dinosaurs:

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[icy onyx]

Is the context behind this referring to escaping predation say from a deinosuchus?

[cinder shoal]

For the "as a means of escape" yeah, but that also applies to any semi-aquatic predators trying to get them. However, it also says "as a means of intimidation", so it could also be a warning sign for smaller creatures to back off and not enter the water.

[icy onyx]

okaya 👍

I think it was mentioned in the Devblog or something that galli would run faster if they made a certain call or were in groups. Do you think that was something AE out in as maybe a hormone response to encourage Galli to herd up in large groups or to gather them together quickly?

[strange shell]

Honestly
There better be a good lore explanation to such an ability

"Screams that make you go faster" sounds like something very cartoonish

[void apex]

(Alright time for quick explanation for why I think this is a good idea, but this fits in #isle-discussion)
Right now, the game is very stagnant in terms of calls and what noises you make. Most people don't make more noise than group invites and mating calls. Honestly, just having more noises in the game makes it feel more alive.

Lore reason? Could be something like an adrenaline response to a certain frequency or so. Or just social conditioning.

Sometimes brains are funky in social animals

[icy onyx]

Yea sounds like what I was thinking

[strange shell]

Meh
Good enough

[maiden sundial]

I mean that makes sense.

[acoustic osprey]

I do hope there is a proper explanation

Seeing as Easter Eggs need to have their routes in lore
Game design should still as well

[fossil void]

Most sane prison in this chat

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/gorlami-inglorious-bastards-brad-pitt-gif-25260892

The only sane prison is Tartarus

[modern rover]

honestly, i genuinely think any mechanic that makes the game less of a silent hell and guides you towards other players is a good one, cartoonish or not. Calls having functional use, especially on galli, an animal that spends most of its time sprinting around the open plains, encourages people to sacrifice stealth for speed and community, and that's kinda sick tbh.

I'd genuinely want every call to have a use, although not to the extent galli has, give the island a little bit more life and sound and remind you that you aren't alone on the island and that there are people you can go to

[acoustic osprey]

and even better with an in lore explanation

Rather than just "well, it is because it is"

[modern rover]

oh yea, for sure

you could even just describe it as social behaviours, or even a "follow the leader" mentality, where the herd leader will call to indicate to other gallis that they need to keep up as he's going to start moving faster

[fossil void]

Me right now

[acoustic osprey]

I agree

[acoustic osprey]

Aye

[acoustic osprey]

Sam Sam

[gentle vessel]

It could be like what antelope do

Where they jump straight into the air and and hold their legs straight under em to say they are too fit to catch

[stone crater]

Stotting, yeah. There’s also the fact that this is unhelpful documentation, so for all we know it could just be play behavior. That’s certainly how im going to use the Beipi breach

[tender shard]

How do you think what may be role of aviary in gameplay?

[fringe marsh]

Cool environmental location to explore I guess

[icy onyx]

a flock of chickens will scatter and hide if another chicken will make certain calls. It makes sense if gallis are known for their speed. sort of like an adrenaline response

[maiden raptor]

Protection during storms?

[acoustic osprey]

Look at quetz dossier

They will likely have multiple purposes

Botany etc

[maiden raptor]

Yeah maybe certain types of plants or foods for diets will only be found there

[acoustic osprey]

I don't think diets

Or not diets for playables

Maybe for Tribals? Depends on their gameplay use

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401480573471948821/1081400693384036422/More_or_less_hi_how_are_you.png

Presuming that a good amount of these will be either in the Aviaries or the Hexadome

However, we know the Hexadome is a biodome
So it might be one of the hidden RnD sites

[maiden sundial]

It may be a gigantic biodome that is a temperate environment?

[modern rover]

I doubt and hope not.

[maiden sundial]

I more mean redwood

Since judging from the map the island is tropical

[modern rover]

Again, I still find the prospect of setting up these HUGE domes for essentially an air conditioned tree area fundamentally off

The domes are more than likely tied to storage, containment, research and observation

[maiden sundial]

I am saying that the regular biodomes. The smaller ones appear to be for your theory

It would make sense if you want to study wildlife of other climates you'd have an area made for it. Just my theory though

[wicked brook]

What if the entire isle is a bio dome in space?

[maiden sundial]

Highly doubtful

[modern rover]

The thing is with that is it’s still a massive expenditure, and to find what? We know AE is medicinal, exposing the animals to a cooler climate, proves very little. They aren’t actually forcing them to undergo extreme temperatures, just cooler, so what can they possibly hope to learn from it?

[maiden sundial]

Oh. I see

[modern rover]

I’d imagine the bigger domes would be for containment and separating things from the main ecosystem, but to throw in the constant expenditure of cooling it down seems off.

[maiden sundial]

Then post "incident" what do you think they're used for?

[modern rover]

I’d argue they place strains in these larger domes, integrate a select portion of the existing ecosystem and observe interactions between Strain and non-strain to see flaws in the strain’s core design, while not releasing it into a harder to control environment like the main island

[bold crater]

Okay I have silly theory for requiring a very cold environment.

[modern rover]

They can control the dome’s conditions, total population, exposure, environmental factors, so on, while having the main Island exist as the primary form of making new dinosaurs, allowing them to interact naturally and reproduce, creating new specimens without needing to constantly replicate them.

[bold crater]

Hypers have super fast metabolisms, right? Okay well....I dunno what if a super cold environment inhibits this and allows them to study the Hyper both longer and in a natural environment

Just a random idea

🤷

[modern rover]

Would be very difficult to test, and would need a bio dome well beyond the climate of Redwoods

We’d need arctic levels of cold to test that properly

[bold crater]

I just popped in here so I may have missed previous context. Do we know if extreme temperature bio-domes aren't a thing?

[modern rover]

I don’t think they’ve been dismissed

[bold crater]

I remember Punch mentioning snow in one as a possibility 😮

[modern rover]

I mean, I’d personally see that as terrible in terms of gameplay but it could make sense in lore

[bold crater]

Well, just wanted to share that random theory

Gameplay wise....I think I'd be indifferent to it. Like it's cool as a concept, but.....why would I go in other than "it's cool" pun intended

[modern rover]

Any feature that invalidates part of the roster from engaging with it, or creates scenarios where it would be fundamentally ridiculous, is bad to me

Mega and deino would either be forbidden from interacting with the cold biodome, or would waltz in and completely defy logic and reasoning.

[bold crater]

I can see that. My main issue with it is simply both the reasoning to even go in in the first place and it just....eeeeeh I don't dislike biodomes but they feel odd for Isle. Not bad, just odd.

But I've always been okay with the concept of "don't expect to do everything everywhere as anything" 😛

More tame biodomes though are fine

But even then, I still wonder....why?

Both game and lore wise, why a dome 😮

[modern rover]

I do think that the big dome will be almost like an arena, a chunk of the total island where specimens are dragged into to test R&D’s latest big breakthrough. Hypers, Neuros and Tissos released in these “mini-ecosystems” to observe behaviours, interactions, strengths and weaknesses. Main island acts as a way to ensure supply of new animals doesn’t run out, as they reproduce and sustain themselves

[bold crater]

So basically the dome is a stress test

I do like the idea of them being for testing stuff

[modern rover]

They COULD use the replicator, but something tells me that isn’t cheap

[bold crater]

Do we know for sure if replicating entire environments is even a thing? I remember an old transmission implying it.

[modern rover]

I think everything in the Isle centres around the main R&D things. The whole ecosystem exists to observe differences between natural variants, and compare changes while undergoing strain mutations, as well as a sustainable form of production for new specimens.

For example, a wild Rex can be observed and documented having certain behaviours, then these can be compared with the mutated version to identify differences post-mutation

[bold crater]

Makes sense

[modern rover]

I’d imagine these strains are all for the purpose of major medical progress in the field of genetic enhancement, but from what we can see, it’s nowhere near perfect, with each strain having unique flaws that make them unusable for commercial application

It’s why Gen 1 and Gen 2 were made, human tests, and based on the existence of the Echidna, Colossus and Reaper, there were tests done, but not with the intended results at all

[bold crater]

That makes me wonder though....aside from "why dinosaurs?" not that I have any issues with that, what would be the point in making such a large and diverse amount of creatures instead of just a handful?

I can understand the theory of "dino = no rights = free to do whatever with it" but why the ones we have? 😮

[modern rover]

A lot easier to get around legal loopholes of animal testing when you make the animals yourself, and they aren’t classified under any law

[bold crater]

[modern rover]

Not to mention if you made the genetic code yourself, it’s a lot easier to know what to change to make something happen

Gen 1 and Omniraptor proves that they aren’t just cloning, they’re building from a template. Gen 1 was made to be like a human, but failed, if they could simply clone the human, they would’ve gotten another human, but instead they chose to try and make their own humans.

Omniraptor is built to be a raptor, but not based on anything actually real. It’s entirely unique and nothing like anything nature has ever made

[bold crater]

I am very interested in all the different generation stuff. I think Beip's glance sheet mentions it itself having generations

[modern rover]

They have the shape, behaviours and idea of a dinosaur from paleontological research, they then take this and build their own based on that template until they end up with a good enough replication of the real thing.

[bold crater]

That makes a lot of sense. But why all of the dinos we have though? Why not just stop at say Omniraptor? Are the things they're testing needing specific types of body mass n' such?

[modern rover]

If they were just cloning, we wouldn’t have specimens deviating so wildly from the actual animal, they’re quite literally building their own based on the IDEA of the animal

[bold crater]

"But Spino inaccurate"

[acoustic osprey]

Doubt it being big?

As we know the Hexadome is the biggest dome and is a biodome

[modern rover]

Full ecosystem allows for observation of natural behaviours, from which they can compare modified behaviours. Holding a regular omni and a type-H omni in a tiny cell will still have a socially maladjusted omni that is aggressive and wants out. Allowing the omni into the environment to hunt, eat, socialise and so on allows them to compare what happens when genetically altered via strain or other mutation

[bold crater]

True, true.

[acoustic osprey]

I believe that is the case with the multiple hyper fence sections in Gateway

[bold crater]

I kinda get vibes of "ya know, Beip is cool so whatever let's use it"

Like you can't tell me not one person thought "okay but like it's just cool, c'mon guys"

[acoustic osprey]

The holding cells (?) that were in the phase three post a few weeks back most likely were/are medical bays and mechanic stations

[modern rover]

You can see how the mutations effect more than just physically, but mentally, behaviourally and emotionally too. From there you can identify key flaws that make it unsuitable for any form of commercial application

[bold crater]

I do very much like that these are still animals and not mindless drones or.....human minds. Eugh.

I know it's JW, but it makes me think of Wu in the second one arguing the Indo "needs a mother".

Gotta treat them like animals or else they function weird

[acoustic osprey]

Woah! Unlike every mutated Dino in Jurassic Park universe!

[modern rover]

Based on how the Colossus, Reaper and Echidna turned out, highly dangerous and difficult to contain specimens, I think they don’t want to go to human testing all too often

[bold crater]

[acoustic osprey]

Depends on what Tartarus is used for as well

A holding pen? Facilities?

[modern rover]

And want things to be polished out on the animal side before pushing for human testing.

[acoustic osprey]

Not like it seemed human testing was that successful

[modern rover]

Exactly

[acoustic osprey]

in the short term

Long term? Big eye opener on the way they do things likely, looking at how different Gen 2s are compared to 1s

[modern rover]

I’d argue human strain testing was a disaster, based on the results. The specimens all were dangerous and hostile, and far gone from anything still human

[acoustic osprey]

I just want to know what Tartarus was/is

[modern rover]

The end result would more have likely put an immediate halt on any future experiments. Colossus would’ve been a destructive menace, Reaper would’ve been impossible to contain down and an extreme threat to human workers, and Echidna… well, we know she’s one of AE’s greatest problems

[acoustic osprey]

Depends on how sophisticated Gen 2s were

[modern rover]

I still think the reason Gen 1 even exists is because AE doesn’t use cloning, but rather builds from scratch based on the rough concept of their desired outcome specimen. Gen 1 was one of their first “successful” attempts at a human, but obviously was still nowhere near an actual human.

It could, y’know, SURVIVE, as well as learn, use tools and have a level of human-like sophistication, but it’s still not a human

I still don’t know, was the Colossus, Echidna and Reaper the result of Gen 1 or Gen 2 testing

[bold crater]

Oh no, the Reaper is running at me with his backwards blades. 😱 I am glad he is getting a redesign

I wanna know if the Replicator is making these things herself or if she's being told to make them. Or both.

Like if it's the classic case of "robot gone haywire and gained awareness"

Or if it's the somewhat more scary case of it just doing what it was made to do

If that makes sense ;><;

[modern rover]

I think how the replicator works is very explicit. You feed it a "blueprint" of a specimen and it generates it to those genetic parameters. It probably also remembers the genetic makeup so it can make more later if need be, meaning it can make more whenever needed. How it gained sentience, however, is more curious.

It clearly likes Gen 1 and actively engages with them and creates them, to the point they treat it like a God, and it clearly is capable of some level of free will, but the question is why give it free will and agency? What does it achieve? Or was it something brought on later?

In other words, you give it a blueprint, it replicates it and can continue replicating it forever

[bold crater]

Hmmm

On the sentience part, I can see it being just it being too smart and becoming self aware eventually.

Either that, or perhaps the level of intelligent computer power stuff that they needed for it to do it's job simply could not be done without sentience happening.

That level of processing power would basically guarantee self awareness

[icy onyx]

I love how I feel I know everything about isle lore except what is known about the replicator which then makes me feel that I actually know nothing

[strange shell]

The Isle lore

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[maiden sundial]

Echidna hugging an eyeless is free serotonin

[icy onyx]

cuteee

[young sorrel]

hi

[acoustic osprey]

hi

[lyric spire]

@acoustic osprey lore question

what's AE 001?

[acoustic osprey]

an old map

Supposed to be very lore heavy

Think Gateway but for Legacy

[acoustic osprey]

Thanks Dash

I've now gone on a useless rabbit hole of useless information that'll likely be invalidated through Gateway/Dondi

ALL BECAUSE OF YOU!!! @rustic urchin
I hope you enjoy

https://tenor.com/view/ratatouille-ratatouille-chef-ratatouille-reading-shocked-gif-23517636

So, I've been going around using spec cam around The Isle

(I'm doing the video suggestion, 12 hours late, because I was bored)

I spawn in a server and realise I next to a human building. The solar panel one near the tri rock thing

noted down two things

It's tiny camera is named:
CAM
AE - 771

(Taking note on how AE labels things, especially things like cameras, which occur multiple times)

But also, on the top left of the device

"Apollo Timit"

sadly, can't decipher what is on the bottom in the second image (near the large green screen)

Nothing in Greek Mythos and the English language as far as I know for timit

it could also be "TI(i or l/L)mit"

like "The Isle - mit?"

however, it would be more obvious through the use of a "- or space"

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/664914260648001555/773926507620859954/keypad.png

too hard to really tell

Also had a look at AE's love for rubbing alcohol

oh sorry, wrong image!

Basically AE only, at the moment (I'm presuming this wont be the case in the future lol) loves this stuff

This is called Isopropyl alcohol (also known as rubbing alcohol)

These are their general uses:

Disinfectant: Isopropyl alcohol is commonly used as a disinfectant to kill germs on surfaces and skin. It is often used in hospitals and other medical settings to sterilize equipment and surfaces.

Cleaning agent: Isopropyl alcohol is an effective cleaning agent that can be used to remove dirt, grease, and other types of grime from surfaces.

Solvent: Isopropyl alcohol is a good solvent for a wide range of substances, including oils, resins, and gums. It can be used to dissolve and remove unwanted substances.

Antiseptic: Isopropyl alcohol can be used as an antiseptic to disinfect minor cuts and scrapes.

Cooling agent: Isopropyl alcohol has a cooling effect and can be used as a coolant in various industrial processes.

[languid igloo]

I love how in depth you always are each day, love reading the Lore theories you guys make here

[acoustic osprey]

It's interesting, very interesting.
Both their use and Spiros love for it (once again, I'm presuming it's just a placeholder or they just wanted to make it simple for Spiro till they wanted to work on lore a lot more)

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/ben-folds-five-thank-you-sir-may-i-have-another-freaking-out-gif-22377158

Thank you Platyyy
I run off a thin line of insanity!!!

[languid igloo]

Omg haha

[acoustic osprey]

I can't always "Earth (?), so worldbuilding backbones of real life "lore/subtext" can't be applied
but
UN no.
Practically means, in the world of chemicals, means "United Nations Number"

is a four-digit number assigned to hazardous substances and articles by the United Nations Committee of Experts on the Transport of Dangerous Goods.

This cuts out as every Isopropyl canister have the same UN no, alongside with it being 4 digits
However, The UN number for isopropyl alcohol is UN 1219.

I thought, being the smartest guy in the world (clearly), oh this might be Dondi hiding ||in plain sight|| something larger! Maybe there is some dangerous/toxic/rare chemical running The Isle's power/or something akin to such thing- even if we didn't know what it could possibly run/power, we could have some hint

If you thought so, you are almost likely wrong and overthinking it
3314 is Hybrid lithium-ion battery with a mixture of lithium-ion cells or batteries and lithium metal cells or batteries
It would be very unwise, unorthodox and dangerous to do so

Especially keeping them outside.
Lithium-ion batteries should be stored at a moderate temperature, typically between 20 and 25 degrees Celsius (68 to 77 degrees Fahrenheit), in a dry and well-ventilated area.
Spiro, being much more tropical, would typically have high temperatures and high humidity levels. The temperature in tropical regions typically ranges from 25 to 35 degrees Celsius (77 to 95 degrees Fahrenheit) year-round.

Sure, they could've just left them out there due to "the incident"
But on that large of a scale? Practically every container has them (they SHOULD be constantly ventilated and air-conditioned, it being on a Tropical Island)

[acoustic osprey]

I know!!!

[acoustic osprey]

Then you look at the CAS number
Ok.
What does that mean?

CAS No. stands for Chemical Abstracts Service Number. It is a unique identifier assigned by the Chemical Abstracts Service (CAS) to identify a specific chemical substance. CAS numbers are assigned to chemicals and chemical compounds, including organic and inorganic substances, polymers, and alloys.

Which would make sense for something like this again, like the UN number.

Surprise surprise
CAS number 12-23 is not a valid CAS number.

CAS numbers have a specific format of three groups of numbers separated by hyphens, with the first group containing up to six digits, the second group containing two digits, and the third group containing a single digit as a check digit.

Where The CAS number for isopropyl alcohol is 67-63-0.

on a happier note, completely forgot this exists

and some other tiny guys

I know this is possibly the most useless tangent about small minor aspects on Spiro
Which will likely be fixed

and/or more things will come and these old things will be removed

Knowing that text stuff on Gateway weren't even final (most/some)
like the Afterthought easter egg in the lockers

in the end, I find sad enjoyment from this

not to mention AE Class Water/EE-Class Plastic
does not exist

Alas, that is all of what I can contribute and input about this

practically just went on a minor shopping spree on looking at minor things on Spiro (again)

[icy onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/ok-all-nice-gif-22927671

[languid igloo]

As im reading this im starting to believe even the bits of foliages have lore on them

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/bravo-felicitations-feliciter-christophwaltz-gif-5034402

[languid igloo]

I want you to inspect every single Model of foliage rn

[acoustic osprey]

fine

[languid igloo]

Lmao noo! Dont do it! You'll go Insane!!

[acoustic osprey]

already started, researching if Spiro's actual trees and ecosystem can exist

[languid igloo]

Hahahhah

[rustic urchin]

Gah damn you went all out

What’d I say that made you do that?

I’m betting once the game gets the the point where there’s a large number of items around the map humans can loot and use, rubbing alcohol is a common one, which makes sense

Poor man’s first aid

[acoustic osprey]

hundreds of litres of it!!!

[acoustic osprey]

the one for the video thing

[rustic urchin]

Oh the walking dead thing?

[acoustic osprey]

yes lol

[rustic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-grimes-twd-gif-20361030

[shell badger]

Ima put that somwhere else

[acoustic osprey]

oh?

[shell badger]

Yeah it’s a human mechanic theories and how they might work

[acoustic osprey]

Well I will comment on what I read

I think it's good to take note
That the human playables wont be mercenaries, but are humans made by AE
And that Strains are also made by AE

[shell badger]

Here fine I’ll put it back up

[acoustic osprey]

yay

[shell badger]

Im thinking humans did research on the island—continue many many years after escape—>mercury goes on an exploration mission to capture assets for research and warfare—-mercs meet humans that have been hear(tribals/cannibals)which may or may not be aggressive to the mercury some also may have dinosaurs with them—-> mercury mission would be retrieve assets for a set goal—-tribals mission would be to survive in a hostile world by adapting to it

Gameplay wise I think tribals will be able to talk to dinosaurs over and over agian until the dinosaurs understand them only a bit like key words or phases they might be able to mount dinosaurs and use something to lead them or nudge them in a direction which the dinosaurs could resist and even kick off the rider

On the mercury side I believe they will have to scavenge for material to build broken down vehicle, power up different stations and bases and use weapons to bring down Dino’s or capture them to send out for testing or some sort of reward

Dino side of things would be that if they help the tribals they may get to survive safer with more protection as well as food would be a great start as a youngling without parents
But if the mercs captured you young most likely you would be tested on to become a type h,t or n once you survive with a new diet and look as a child til growth while being captured bigger would have higher chance of side effects and/or low dance of death(since the mutant are op as is also mutant herbis :3)
And dinosaurs don’t even need to interact with humans if they don’t wish too but the humans always can interact with the dinosaurs at a risk of their own death

Note if they add a human “nesting system” they should do it for tribal only wouldn’t make sense for mercs to do it and the “nesting” should just be them building a hutt and where u can’t see inside and once the baby is born they just stay in there until a certain older age
But that’s my take on what I think of the lore it’s simple

[acoustic osprey]

Also, what is mercury?

[shell badger]

Gen 2

[acoustic osprey]

Gen2s = Mercs

[shell badger]

Yeah while gen 1 is tribal

[acoustic osprey]

aye

[modern rover]

Gen 2s aren't mercs anymore (just throwing it out there)

[acoustic osprey]

^

[shell badger]

What r they now?

scientist?

[acoustic osprey]

They're genetically made humans

by the company that made the dinosaurs

[shell badger]

Oh?

[acoustic osprey]

aye

[modern rover]

Merc is an inaccurate description, lore-wise and gameplay-wise

[acoustic osprey]

(Apollo Engineering)

[shell badger]

So wait

These humans will they be able to “nest”

[modern rover]

Think more of a reusable maintenance crew

[acoustic osprey]

Likely no

[shell badger]

and what about generation one?

[modern rover]

No breeding between humans

[acoustic osprey]

Well, no Nesting for Humans (Gen2s)

[shell badger]

I see

[modern rover]

Gen 1 are still tribals, but they can also be referred to as cannibals

[acoustic osprey]

Maybe Gen1s? We do not know

I'd assume Gen2 "Nesting" is more so just an invite system to your base

[shell badger]

So will the tribal be force to eat other human?

[acoustic osprey]

well, Tribals are cannibals, so yeah

[shell badger]

Or cloning

Damn

[acoustic osprey]

in lore? Maybe

[shell badger]

I’m not eating other humans ew

[acoustic osprey]

Likely not proper "cloning"
more so just synthesising humans

[shell badger]

Making more syths

[acoustic osprey]

you must

[shell badger]

No I’m being a Dino tamer

I already tamed a pack of raptors as my human! On the isle

And 2 stegos that nested with me around I help bring food since I was faster :3

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/war-for-the-planet-of-the-apes-caesar-andy-serkis-pissed-off-gif-8491139

[shell badger]

Omg…gen 3 monkee

[neon mesa]

Welcome to Wattpad, where all your dreams come true

[shell badger]

Nah nvm bout humans bro where the apes at we need monkee in the isle with Hera climbing

[shell badger]

It was an isle server with humans enabled

I did get punted by a carno tho :/ but it died and I came back and ate it

[neon mesa]

I can believe it

[acoustic osprey]

same

[shell badger]

Yea rude carno but he did run right in the middle of 2 stegos

See humans can tame Dino players

[acoustic osprey]

Not if I have anything to say about it

[shell badger]

With enough effort and also not trying carnis

Man carnis do nothing but kill herbis are so nice to humies

[acoustic osprey]

As a 8ft tall monstrous human
I will not tame a pathetic dinosaur

[shell badger]

Lol

I am I’ll take the gateway base and keep my Dino’s safe feed them grow them…….farm them?

I’ll prolly get 2-3 generations before they suspect a thing :3

I still think, though, if you keep speaking to a dinosaur, they would least understand the key phrase, or some words

Like how other animals with enough time they can sort of understand what we try to tell them

Like dogs with sit or that one elephant that paints

[sly merlin]

I wonder if any of the buildings in gateway are operating and if the devs would implement human ai

That would be in 5 years tho 🗿

[acoustic osprey]

I doubt we'd get human ai

[acoustic osprey]

However we know buildings will be operational through players being able to refurbish them

[sly merlin]

W

[fossil lily]

Yo swag work on the updated Isle Lore doc. I don't check in here as often due to IRL stuff but I helped make the original one :)

[acoustic osprey]

Nice, hey Buder

[tranquil imp]

Is anyone doing lore about the strains in evrima.

[acoustic osprey]

barely any, but we have some

[tranquil imp]

Coool

[slow delta]

Not to worry budder, im still updating our doc

[fossil lily]

Wac

I wish I could be around for more Isle Lore but IRL life is like yeah

[slow delta]

Dont worry at the pace lore is releasing we're gonna retire before we get anything substantial

[acoustic osprey]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/914684342033338389/953011969848397844/islegif.gif

Have a look at both whenever you feel like it.
There's not much new to learn, just things to forget

[hexed flax]

No joke. Lightclaw is going to be on the history channel in 30 years talking about how much we already know about the lore

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[tender dock]

Have I missed much? (last time I was here was around December)

[acoustic osprey]

Nothing!!

[tender dock]

https://tenor.com/view/awesome-minions-excited-gah-i-cant-even-gif-14537236

[acoustic osprey]

<@&933486433342222376>

Pretty sure this isn't lore!

[lethal moat]

Did anybody notice how the 219-C told you where to find a deactivated olympus hardline, and Apollo Engineering changed the location next day?

Hades entry, left, left, left, right, forward, left? Check it out once gateway gets released?

The entry is 12/7

Hardpoint reestablished 12/8/(Unclear), just thought I'd mention this

[acoustic osprey]

2172

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1088367538049650718/More_or_less_hi_how_are_you.png
Also for ease

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401480573471948821/1072247114043760640/Summary-E2911.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401480573471948821/1056746995173306398/image5.png

But yeah, you make a good point

Although, I don't believe 291 shows us on how to find the deactivated olympus
Just depends on on the route he went to get from Olympus to Hades Entry

Do we lack a lot of information explicitly on 291, I believe we wont get anymore specific knowledge on 291's case
but likely have references down the line, hopefully.

but yeah, either LLLRFL was a code or literal directions

[lethal moat]

Think this has something to do with neuros or tribals?

It mentions no listening to voices, and there should be an echo, which leads me to think neuro telepathy.

I'm interested in the destination (Sibb.....) in keeping with greek names, it could be Sibyl, (prophet) which makes me think neuros even more

From what I understand Zeus is hypo quetz, hades is type M T-rex, and poseiden I don't remember, sibyl could be code name for neuro stuff

[wanton delta]

I figured Zeus would be something pertaining with the wacky weather N-strains, but that also sounds reasonable.

[unborn atlas]

iirc Zeus was H-Rex, Hades was H-Carno, and Poseidon was H-Spino unless they changed them

[lethal moat]

Still think that sibyl is neuro

[slow delta]

Other hypers: greek god names
Hyper Quetz: Alfie

[acoustic osprey]

Alfie because Alfie

[warm loom]

THE LORE CHANNEL

YESSIR!

alright theorise the dinos and humans are related

[acoustic osprey]

Maybe, although looking at the font size and spacing
It seems to be just short

not to forget that what I did there was the most rough patchy work you could do with photoshop

[lethal moat]

What do you mean?

[lethal moat]

I'm planning on doing my own translation to compare what we get and try to guess words

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/better-call-saul-jealous-eyedress-gif-26412771

[calm axle]

L o r e

[acoustic osprey]

Couldn't have said it any better myself

[void apex]

@half dock in every chat

[crisp raven]

green venom particles

[icy onyx]

Actually it’s purple ( head cannon)

[stone crater]

Uh oh Troodon made a stinky!!

[bold crater]

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/mace-windu-star-wars-stare-look-what-gif-17322871

[mellow solstice]

[novel drum]

Dont click that my account was hacked

[frigid dragon]

aha

remove the links real quick then

else there be trouble

but I cant say I cant relate. The exact same thing happened to me

[warm loom]

😂

[modern rover]

Please never send a single message ever again

[bold crater]

https://tenor.com/view/enter-breakdance-leave-enter-and-leave-breakdance-gif-25945671

Not entirely sure what I read but alright

[modern rover]

God bless whoever demolished that monstrosity of a message

No

[maiden sundial]

What did he say

[modern rover]

horrible things

things i will not repeat

[maiden sundial]

Things that can get you muted?

[modern rover]

things that should get you muted

[maiden sundial]

Dear god.

What what is that he was talking about?

[modern rover]

in simple terms, he was discussing "nesting" with dinosaurs

fill in the gaps

[maiden sundial]

Oh. Oh...oh.......

[wise peak]

What did they say?

[acoustic osprey]

🙂

[spring oriole]

so.

[sudden stump]

dino shreks?

[spring oriole]

what’s everyone’s favourite show/movie?

[sudden stump]

honestly i gotta say the new mortal kombat animated movies there underrated af

also this should go in off topic

see u there #offtopic-discussion

[modern rover]

scroll up literally a few messages

[sudden stump]

they talked abt dino shreks

[acoustic osprey]

The Isle lore, thanks

[vagrant jasper]

hypo carno is hades

if i remember right

[rustic urchin]

Yes

[tough rock]

What if the maps we have right now in Evrima are all islands of one big map

[acoustic osprey]

They could, could, be both near each other geologically

But Spiro is one whole island in of itself
And the same with Gateway

[tough rock]

Ohh neat

I also mean Spiro and gateway too

[acoustic osprey]

it could be connected to an island chain

[sand thistle]

What if Isla Spiro is actually Isla Nublar, many years after dominion? (like 100+ years) And people have long forgotten Isla Nublar?

[acoustic osprey]

No, The Isle wont be connected to any other franchises/stories outside of The Isle itself

but inspired by other things like JP/JW? 100%

[sand thistle]

Yes but the aviary's from JW are in dominion and they appear to be abandoned, and the static when you approach it, it could be linked somehow.

[acoustic osprey]

I mean, both franchises do have pteranodons

[sand thistle]

True. but JP didnt really have a dock

[chrome acorn]

aviary’s were invented by Jurassic park

[sand thistle]

Which JW and Domionion does

And isla spiro has that dock

[chrome acorn]

Docks too

[acoustic osprey]

JP had a dock

[sand thistle]

it did?

[chrome acorn]

Also invented by Jurassic park

Jurassic park actually invented jeep too

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah, the dockmaster/ship captain was calling from there, and was where Dennis was supposed to go

[sand thistle]

"The East Dock was the shipping port for Jurassic Park and later for Jurassic World on Isla Nublar. The dock was first mentioned in the first Jurassic Park novel. It's first appearance is in Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom."

[acoustic osprey]

before dying to the Dilo

[sand thistle]

Yes but that was at san Diego

[chrome acorn]

Sand Diego is owned by the Jurassic park franchise

[acoustic osprey]

No, east dock was shown in JP

only through a computer screen

when Dennis is on call

[sand thistle]

hm yes

that sign that he flipped

That makes sence

[acoustic osprey]

but no, I don't believe (and I know that it wont anyways) that The Isle be interlocked with Jurassic Park

[sand thistle]

wasnt JP also on isla nublar?

[acoustic osprey]

yeah, everything happened on Nublar

[sand thistle]

And all the abandoned structures could then be like 50 to 100+ years old from JP and JW, so it is a high possiblility that the 2 franchises are linked to The Isle.

[acoustic osprey]

https://gyazo.com/735859f2df54444cdf26aea8c699d903

[sand thistle]

So we cant relate the isle lore to JW / JP?

[acoustic osprey]

basically anything that isn't The Isle? yeah

Sorry about that crushing thought
It would be cool to see a cross over

But, as a story teller, it would not be fun lol

[sand thistle]

Sad, JP and JW is a huge inspiration to The Isle

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah, I don't imagine Don will stop being inspired by any aspect of JP though

and other IPs

[sand thistle]

ye

[acoustic osprey]

aye

[sand thistle]

What?

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[neat storm]

The Isle is a commercial project and they don't have the rights to do such thing even if they wanted to

[acoustic osprey]

Well, there is always parodying and partnerships

Which can happen, but more so for much larger companies

[fringe marsh]

Yeah doubt that Universal is gonna notice The Isle.

[half dock]

Even if they did they can't do shit. Hell, even ark stole their dilophosaurus design and never had anything said to them

[acoustic osprey]

Indom

[half dock]

Just realized where I'm at I never post here!

[runic shuttle]

[lethal moat]

So all stuff when they had a deal with primal carnage is null and void now right?

[sonic rampart]

All stuff connected to PC, not necessarily everything from that time period

[modern rover]

Basically scrub PC from any lore

[lethal moat]

Ight

[keen belfry]

Why did they even try and connect pc to the isle

Never understood that tbh

They have an official trailer for Evrima with a pc reference and like what’s the point if it’s not even in the game

[modern rover]

Because the two games used to be closely linked, Dondi was once a part of PC's development to an extent I'm unaware of

The whole reasons magnas ever existed was due to PC iirc

Which is great because they're confirmed gone because PC is confirmed gone

[acoustic osprey]

Yep

[modern rover]

I can only hope the magna replacement is infinitely cooler than magna, because magna bleh

Type-O or whatever it was

[acoustic osprey]

Variant

[modern rover]

so it isn't a strain?

[acoustic osprey]

Yes and no

Magnas aren't true "strains"
They're more so "perfected variants"

[modern rover]

i really hope we get something more unique than a magna with the new variant

[acoustic osprey]

<@&933486433342222376>

Pretty sure this isn't the isle lore!!

https://tenor.com/view/pie-fight-jack-lemmon-prince-hapnick-the-great-race-great-pie-fight-gif-18029975

[tender dock]

💀

cant talk about the isle lore if their is no real lore other than blacked out ink

[maiden sundial]

Echidna and the eyeless

[acoustic osprey]

Yes!!

[gentle vessel]

Colossus best Titan, why? Reptile King Kong+hulk

[violet juniper]

lore: dinosaurs in habitat. dinosaurs try to get less dead by living.

[icy onyx]

Holy crap!

Galli 6.5!

Oh sry wrong chat

Lol

[wanton delta]

I'll drop this in here incase it gets forgotten

[acoustic osprey]

Cool

Redo it without the spoiler

[ionic sable]

Dondi how dare you change the trailcam format again, I am very unhappy
😠

[maiden sundial]

Also feathered ones

[icy onyx]

Wonder if the feathered ones are a mutation or were purposely bred?

[acoustic osprey]

Changed? It's been like this for a bit now

[ionic sable]

They put a T in front of it

[acoustic osprey]

Unless you're talking about the name which

Change
Which I like this more

[acoustic osprey]

Mutation is very unlikely

[pseudo fable]

Few more formats to follow depending on where it was/infrastructure that set it up. 😦

[ionic sable]

[maiden sundial]

Maybe the other way around

[acoustic osprey]

Interesting, good to note

[ionic sable]

I went with the assumed format before and I have since renamed my trailcams like 5 times lol

[icy onyx]

Maybe

[acoustic osprey]

Also worth noting

[tight field]

What if game theory made a video about the isle

[acoustic osprey]

And his channel name was Lightclaw!!

[acoustic osprey]

This kills me

One "five digit"
And one "four digit"

[static condor]

skill

[acoustic osprey]

And the Beipi one and others are "CAM", and not "TCAM"

Wonder what T means

Tall?

[sonic rampart]

Trail?

[acoustic osprey]

Tree?

[maiden sundial]

Perhaps.

[sonic rampart]

Hmm maybe tree

But galli's was almost ground level

[acoustic osprey]

It'd make sense for Trail cam if the others had it as well

[acoustic osprey]

Seems to be next to/on a palm

Likely connected to a bush/small tree/palm

[wanton delta]

Temporary?

[acoustic osprey]

A bit weird

[wanton delta]

If it's not just "trail" then that's the first thing that came to mind

[acoustic osprey]

Tree seems plausible

Trail might, if they forgot their first few ones were also trail cams

[icy summit]

I agree with this, in the night vision troodon-hunting-teno video they just posted, a troodon brushes against the tree or something similar that the camera is sitting on and rattles the camera a bit

[sleek thicket]

Am I the only one concerned as to the fact that the Galli document has a ? next to its diet being 'Herbivore'?

[rapid chasm]

dam ae sure messed up

hey

[rapid chasm]

document name says unhelpful documentation

[maiden sundial]

It says unhelpful documentation 3 the documentaning

[slow delta]

Me when no lore drop

[maiden sundial]

They alluded to the gallis having multiple generations. Like with 2015-2017 design being mentioned

[slow delta]

That's a super old concept, the old loading screens referred to the allosaurus redesigns as different gens too so nothing substantial.

just lore sauce as usual

[acoustic osprey]

All of them lol

[acoustic osprey]

No, that's in reference to the new glance sheet

Although it's a very slim and basically something that's just speculation

[strange shell]

Whoa that ne glance sheet has some havy info on the lore in it

We got confirmation that
1.The humans were actively interacting with the dinos
2.They were trying to make a functioning ecosystem
3.They could move the dinos around as needed, and apparently didn't want them to kill each other too much
4.Generations and different variants are still a thing lore-wise

[acoustic osprey]

2 and 3 were alluded previously, good to see more information on it

4 was hinted in from Hope.
But Hope... Was yeah

[strange shell]

But now it's confirmed

[acoustic osprey]

And one was already presumed

[strange shell]

Hopefully the massive lore drop that we'll be getting in June will give us more info

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/pie-fight-jack-lemmon-prince-hapnick-the-great-race-great-pie-fight-gif-18029975

[modern rover]

its nice to know that, because knowing the humans priorities remain in observation/ecosystem growth and keeping the animals alive says good things about potential gen 2 gameplay

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

And learning more of the intent of AE

[acoustic osprey]

Really excited they're keeping the "Industrial" look

Rather than just AE being "We're making dinosaurs!"
it feels more of a business.

Now to wait and see if we're still getting the "weathered" feel for these buildings
And if not, what lore implications it could mean

Although I believe you can see rust on the top of the dome

[runic wharf]

humans tryed to make a park with the dinos they made them up with dna they found a island and tryed to make buldings for faciltys yet thats why there are bases and the dinos got out to start life in south, north and even the sw and nw

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/thor-chris-hemsworth-marvel-gif-13214952

[acoustic osprey]

Here is a rough "clear" Glance Sheet
Font is X Typewriter

I recommend trying bold

[edgy pike]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[ionic sable]

All of my trail cams in the UI are here by ruined by this minor inconsistency.

[acoustic osprey]

yep

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[summer helm]

isnt our perpective in the game just a person watching a dino live? idk if this was comfirmed or not

[rustic urchin]

which app do you use? word?

[plucky hollow]

dude yesterday when they dropped the april fools video i got WAY TOO EXITED to see a ping in announcments

[acoustic osprey]

Photoshop

[ionic sable]

Really quick, Do you guys think A.B-02 is referring to this being the second generation Galli?

[rustic urchin]

adobe?

[ionic sable]

Seems like it would be a weird place to put that, but it could make sense compared to the other docs.

[acoustic osprey]

Aye

[acoustic osprey]

It's. Yeah.
Really interesting

But no, I don't think so.
As the guy had to write over that the feathered version

Unless they made both non feathered and feather as the same generation

[ionic sable]

That could make sense, we might just need to wait for a Omniraptor Glance sheet or something else for a more firm theory tho

[acoustic osprey]

Spino

[ionic sable]

That works

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[gentle vessel]

Utahraptor proper also, since we know that will be a thing

[acoustic osprey]

True

[ionic sable]

@acoustic osprey Omni Glance Sheet is coming along nicely.

[static kernel]

I feel like the cannibals would have similar origins to the hypos in the legacy isle

[muted hill]

I think they have a closer connection to the neurotenic strain due to those also lacking eyes/ echidna being called the neurotentic mastermind

[acoustic osprey]

^

[acoustic osprey]

very tasty

[maiden sundial]

And echidna is their mama

[gentle vessel]

Hypers are closer to the colossus than to the eyeless ones

[rapid chasm]

Batch 2

[ionic sable]

[rapid chasm]

B-0.2

[ionic sable]

Also I rescind this statement, it is not going nicely, I cannot figure out how to replicate the charcoal shading.

[rapid chasm]

Open photoshop

Insert the drawing

[ionic sable]

A.B is a combination, but it could still be in direct reference to a Batch number.

However, there would probably be a lot more Batches than just a single clutch per generation.

And it would be a hard sell that Cera and Beipi had a near perfect version on the first Batch

[rapid chasm]

Could be the batch was used to study the behavior of the species

[ionic sable]

oh god not again

[rapid chasm]

And of course someone posts a thrist trap

[outer verge]

Mildly horrifying

Not exactly lore related tho

[cunning tapir]

Heya I noticed in the render vs the lap sketch of galli that the hands are in different position. I had the idea that this could be of like science of the time period. Drawing out the animal with "correct" hands rather than what the clone has. Not sure how to explain it but yeah

[acoustic osprey]

Not sure what you mean! All artists don't know how to do hands properly

[cunning tapir]

So in the 90s we didn't know dinos hands didn't pronate

So this drawing could be a render of the animal based on outdated knowledge and could perhaps put a date on the isle

[acoustic osprey]

Do not be confused, we don't know when this all happened

90s is a rough guess.
It can also be the 2170s

[cunning tapir]

Interesting

What if the intentional creation of the isle was the 90s and what we are playing now is the 2170s? Hrm well idk if the buildings are in bad enough condition for that

[maiden sundial]

I mean some dinosaurs can pronate

Psittacosaurus for one

[acoustic osprey]

Highly doubt it

[cunning tapir]

This is a taco tho so I'm not sure if that applies here. This is more about pointing out that perhaps there are more things we can learn about the lore by the depiction of the dinosaur sketch itself?

[acoustic osprey]

As we know the original documents seemed to have been made in 2172

[cunning tapir]

Oh I see!

[acoustic osprey]

Although, that is an alternative universe

[cunning tapir]

I didn't know that my bad.

[acoustic osprey]

Their 2172 can be our 1990s

[acoustic osprey]

You must explode now!

[cunning tapir]

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/PowerlessComfortableBarasinga-size_restricted.gif

[acoustic osprey]

From looking at the render, trail cam stuff and others
I believe the artwork is either hinting at there being a first/second generation of Gallis (A.B-02) as every other glance sheet has A.B-01

Or it's just the artist being lazy

[cunning tapir]

Oh interesting

[acoustic osprey]

Them glancing but not taking much notice about the hands

Or Tap/Fred completely forgot

Lol

[cunning tapir]

Galli does seems like one of those types u glance at

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[cunning tapir]

The way it curls up reminds me so much of jp galli I think the previous gen thing might be right

[acoustic osprey]

Maybe aye

[cunning tapir]

I wonder how and why the animals edited. What animal did it start with? How far did it go? Was is to help prevent sickness? To stabilize the ecosystem? Or because they thought the ones cloned look "incorrect"?

[icy onyx]

Gateway is apart of Ecuador

First of all, Brazil Nuts exist in Brazil, Peru, Ecuador and Colombia, Gateway was previously names Isla Velada, "Isla" being Spanish therefore this knocks Brazil out of the question for it is a former Portuguese colony with Portuguese speaking inhabitants. Secondly, Peruvian Islands, the Chincha Islands aren't something Gateway would be found, next is Colombia, whose islands are found in the Caribbean and are far too small with the largest of its Island territories being far too mountainous and lack lustre of trees which brings us to Ecuador, in which owns the Galapagos and boy oh boy would Gateway be a good fictional island to be apart of the Galapagos Archipelago therefore I reach the conclusion that Gateway is an Ecuadorian island.

https://tenor.com/view/jeremy-clarkson-clarkson-top-gear-the-grand-tour-tgt-gif-18037509

[fast folio]

Sorry it’s a bad picture but I’ve just found this and I never seen anyone talk about it

It sounds like gurgling lava or something

If it’s a known thing I apologize I’m sorta new to evrima

[unborn atlas]

It's the cave for the tar pits, the devs have it blocked because it's unfinished.

[fast folio]

Makes sense, thank you:)

[acoustic osprey]

And likely won't be expanded upon
There is none of Gateway as far as we know

[acoustic osprey]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/914684342033338389/953011969848397844/islegif.gif

[twin idol]

can somebody explain the basic need to know lore of the isle been trying to understand but having trouble.

[acoustic osprey]

Read both docs in the pinned messages

And then I'll send my copy pasta

[twin idol]

K

[twin idol]

Okay so from what I can tell it seems like The Isle and Primal Carnage are or used to be connected in some way due to some documents having nova and magna

[maiden sundial]

They used to. But not anymore

[twin idol]

Yeah I watched the a video

[modern rover]

yea, don't acknowledge them as a part of the lore anymore. Also magna is dead

[twin idol]

Got it 👍

[twin idol]

Mkay I've read both of the docs

So most of everything makes sense now thx

[acoustic osprey]

Now wait for my copy pasta!

[twin idol]

alrighty

[acoustic osprey]

Here is pretty much the basics

AE (Apollo Engineering) is a bio-engineering company
AE made dinosaurs. AE also made mutated (strained) dinosaurs.
This took place all around the 90s (approximate)

AE also made mutated humans
- When? Who knows, but we can presume during AE's "Prime" in the 90s (?)
- These humans are known as "Tribals"/Cannibals/Generation One

Tribals slowly went crazy and mad per cycle

Sometime later, around current modern times, AE makes Generation Two
- Generation Two are also known as "Mercs" ||just to clarify, they aren't mercenaries any longer||/Humans
There is soo much more. But some of it is speculative canon and some of it is unconfirmed canon (lore from Legacy that we don't know will be in Evrima)

[twin idol]

mkay thanks again 👍

[ionic sable]

Working on Terminal interface right now, how does this look as a simple title card?

(Bottom is a loading bar)

[acoustic osprey]

The irony

[acoustic osprey]

the loading bar is nice
This feels like an official logo sticker on one of those glass sliding doors

[wind carbon]

New theory

[icy onyx]

Yes?

[wind carbon]

bro dont rush it I'm thinking this isnt easy to make up

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[spare bloom]

Bro im just excited for cerato

[spare bloom]

What do you think they'll do with the Matriarch and Colossus?

[maiden sundial]

They are doing echidna iirc

[spare bloom]

oh

But in the lore echidna's status is missing. do you think phoenix corporation took it?

Also the Colossus files were erased. could Phoenix Corporation did corporate espionage?

Also is neuro spino still canon?

[maiden sundial]

Neuro spino is no longer Canon. Nor is colossus iirc

[spare bloom]

oh

[maiden sundial]

Though echidna? She may have just done it herself

[spare bloom]

that sounds like a good theory

Because the Neuro strain contains telepathy, intellegence, and regeneration so maybe she broke out

[maiden sundial]

She likely did. With the help of her babies

[spare bloom]

Do you think matriarch will break out? because shes highly defensive of her babies

[maiden sundial]

Matriarch of the neuros?

[spare bloom]

i dont remember the strain

[maiden sundial]

The matriarch IS echidna

If it's the matriarch of the neuros

[sonic rampart]

Since when?

[maiden sundial]

I don't remember when. But i heard someone say it. I could be wrong tho

[acoustic osprey]

No

[maiden sundial]

Oh. I stand corrected

[acoustic osprey]

Read my google doc on it
It hasn't been unconfirmed yet

[spare bloom]

Maybe it was Tissoplasic?

[acoustic osprey]

Also read my doc
Lot's of old lore had been pushed away

Primal carnage is no longer linked with The Isle

[spare bloom]

oh

[acoustic osprey]

Aye

[spare bloom]

So is project Alphonse and Throne-Breaker still canon?

Because in the old lore Apollo Engineering stole assets from Phoenix Corporation the assets being The Magnatyrannus and The Quetzalcoatlus

The assets stolen from Atrium B and Atrium C

[modern rover]

that's unconfirmed, why would you say that lol

[maiden sundial]

I know. I know.

[modern rover]

the only strain now no longer canon is all magnas

[modern rover]

unlikely, since Phoenix Corp is no longer canon to The Isle

She's smart as hell, so she more than likely broke out herself and is hiding somewhere away from AE's view

[maiden sundial]

Most likely with a guard of eyeless at the ready

[modern rover]

It's interesting to consider if she is planned to only be a lore entity or an actual playable creature, along with the eyeless, colossus and such

[maiden sundial]

Perhaps an ai open world boss.

Or rather not a boss. More just an entity

Let's you reach her habitat. You cant attack her because of her abilities

[bold crater]

Could be like the G-Man where in the distance, you see her watching before she disappears

[acoustic osprey]

We have no clue
Anything that "deep" in Isle's lore is practically still in the deep blue void of "who knows"

[modern rover]

a lot of legacy-era lore can easily be dropped too

pretty sure the "regular human turning into eyeless" thing has been hard retconned for example

[edgy pike]

That would be terrifying lmao just have the server select a random player to stalk for a few mins before disappearing

[topaz lance]

What would be cooler is that If you can play as this abominations but there can only be one of each on every server and it's like really hard or smth to get unlocked tk be able to play as it

Like a special area where you have to sacrifice your apex dino or smth and then like a baby of the monster emerges like a chestburster and then your playing as it

[queen citrus]

May I ask why my game does not have the night vision function and keys?

[vagrant jasper]

What evrima or legacy

[queen citrus]

sorry i don't understand what you mean

[vagrant jasper]

What version did it go missing on

You probs need to deleate your save file

[vagrant jasper]

@queen citrus

[queen citrus]

ok

tk you

[vagrant jasper]

Dm me if it doesn’t work

[strange fog]

what is the lore behind the isle? I dont know what the isle is about and I am interested

[safe valve]

Check the pinned documents, they hold all lore of value

[acoustic osprey]

Here is pretty much the basics

AE (Apollo Engineering) is a bio-engineering company
AE made dinosaurs. AE also made mutated (strained) dinosaurs.
This took place all around the 90s (approximate)

AE also made mutated humans
- When? Who knows, but we can presume during AE's "Prime" in the 90s (?)
- These humans are known as "Tribals"/Cannibals/Generation One

Tribals slowly went crazy and mad per cycle

Sometime later, around current modern times, AE makes Generation Two
- Generation Two are also known as "Mercs" ||just to clarify, they aren't mercenaries any longer||/Humans
There is soo much more. But some of it is speculative canon and some of it is unconfirmed canon (lore from Legacy that we don't know will be in Evrima)

(if you're not bothered with the docs)

[strange fog]

tysm I am also going to go on the docks but this helps tons

[rustic urchin]

Was scrolling through old phase two stuff and remembered these existed

Think they mean anything?

Would think even if it’s old, the merch would be lore accurate and not names and dates that don’t line up right?

Date manufactured 1953

[maiden sundial]

Isla spera?

[maiden sundial]

Was this during the time when gateway was announced?

[sonic rampart]

Way before

Years before, even

[maiden sundial]

I see.

I guess it got retconned

[acoustic osprey]

No

[acoustic osprey]

Spera was a misprint

[maiden sundial]

Oh Spero then

[acoustic osprey]

Aye

[rustic urchin]

So probably shouldn’t look into it at all?

If the island kinda went haywire during the 1990s, 1953 kinda makes sense

Just means AE had a long reign on those islands which, kinda makes sense

You don’t create scientific miracles and advanced architecture on an island chain overnight

[half dock]

I remade one

[rustic urchin]

mod support canon

[final plinth]

as they say: the 4 domes weren't built in a day

https://tenor.com/view/reviving-chat-chat-revive-dead-chat-revive-reviving-gif-23376966

[acoustic osprey]

Best not to

As this was roughly ~3 months after Hope.

and we all know how painful it is to watch Hope. now as a lore person

[icy onyx]

As in its not cannon or as in its disappointing?

[acoustic osprey]

Not canon

[icy onyx]

Oof

[acoustic osprey]

rereading this
Taking the specific dates out, and just leaving the "They roughly stayed there for 40 odd years"

it might be plausible
However, in the end, it's hard to tell
As basically everything in The Isle's Human assets are very "weird"

4K CRT monitor with a modern PC Tower

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/664914260648001555/700115622385680434/Harbor_Master_Int_Concept.jpg
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/664914260648001555/733829161981837403/image0.jpg

(although, Don said that the words aren't final, iirc)

interesting to note that there are two 3-pin female connectors on the towers (yes, the CRTs shouldn't have a tower)
This is interesting, they wouldn't be used for power, but for audio (XLR) ||As they have an AC female connector anyways||

Would be cool to see XLR input in The Isle 🙂 (Fake MIDI)

[rustic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/jfk-clone-high-i-like-your-funny-words-magic-man-jack-black-gif-18659433

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/bravo-felicitations-feliciter-christophwaltz-gif-5034402

[acoustic osprey]

I'm not really a fan of the idea
Although, yes, it's certainly cool and makes it more of a limited world event (albeit, more of a "first to become a strain wins!", which I'm iffy on- would be cool to see for unofficials to test and trial)

But the idea of sacrificing your something is a cool idea, and has been talked about before
Although, it's slightly altered.

As far as we know, Tribals (Cannibals) will be sacrificing things onto an altar for The Replicator to be rewarded by her
Maybe a more POV Altar? But, I can imagine having one/a few POV Altars would denote to camping
To which I wonder if that might allow us to play as The Eyeless.

I do find it interesting that the strain "reference" in the elder description was removed last year.
Either they didn't want to publicly discuss it, as it might still be in a 50/50 not sure how to do it yet stage
or that Strains will have a completely new way to be obtained, rather than just an alternative reward for some playables when they finish the elder stage
Unless "But dying in any other fashion..." has a completely different meaning, rather than just ||to how I read it|| "if you die from anything other than forfeiting, you wont get your reward"

Alas, who knows.
Have to wait and see what they have planned for Strains

[modern rover]

i'd be interested in the idea of the human strains being playable, even echidna, but obviously they'd have to be SUPER tough

[acoustic osprey]

Honestly, if it was just Eyeless, I'd be fine

[modern rover]

thats fair

if the eyeless' whole gimmick was seeing through sound and echolocation, i'm sold

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[maiden sundial]

I just hope they can climb like how they were supposed to in legacy

[lethal moat]

I'm looking forward to the idea of humans as glass cannons, but hoiw powerful are bullets going to be? two shot an omni? One shot head shot?

[modern rover]

no way to tell, but i'd doubt it. Omnis are polar bear weight

[rapid chasm]

A average human gets killed by getting shot in the centermass, anywhere else their be injured. Assuming that we're using 9mm. A 9mm pistol is a peashooter compared to 5.56 rifle.

Meaning something like a hypsi would get blown to bits if shot at by a 9mm about 5ish times.

A shotgun with slugs would be most effective against raptors, and pretty much everything, but its restricted to close range.

A polar bear goes down with around four well placed shots if your shooting a shotgun loaded with slugs.

[maiden sundial]

And that's only 12 gauge.

Imagine a 10 gauge. Or even a 6 gauge

[lyric marsh]

Kid named 4 gauge KS-23

The lower the gauge: the more unpleasant it is to be shot

Well I mean ig it depends on if the weapons carried are military contractors or privately owned by Æ

There is a big difference than anti personal and game

[knotty jolt]

Ngl I really hope strains are handled well in game, I feel after a couple days release you would see them running around everywhere, as most if not every game has some kind of power creep like that. Hopefully they go to the length of making the requirements or whatever very volatile or changing them every certain timeframe so it stays uncommon

[modern rover]

strains are in themselves EXTREMELY volatile with massive glaring flaws, like the hyper's rapid starvation, meaning they don't stick around for long.

[knotty jolt]

True, but gamers are gamers and they will always find a way around things

[maiden sundial]

I'm gonna be in here. Hopefully I'm away from. Pure

[knotty jolt]

No clue how funny hyper man will be balanced though if it runs faster than you and basically annihilates everything it breathes on, doesn't matter about the drain if let's say you spent 5 o
Hours on an apex and hyper rolls up and you can't do anything lmao. Will be interesting to see how it's handled

[hoary scroll]

Can someone give me a rundown of cannibals/tribals

[maiden sundial]

@acoustic osprey I have an idea for what O strain means

Overwatch.

Since overwatch is the process of watching from a high position another group of soldiers who are involved in a military activity and giving them support if necessary.

[rapid chasm]

The hellfire missle heading its way:

[acoustic osprey]

O Variant!!!

But Overwatch would make sense, if Drone Quetz was "O-Variant"

[acoustic osprey]

Do not forget that they aren't going to be sustainable

Sure, they are faster.
But they will die, they are timed (and hopefully a rough "set time" before you cannot stop your death ||as a hyper||)

Excluding you can just hide
There are a large amount of easy to hide in plants thick enough- just look at plains/centre in Spiro

too big? Might have to opportunity to just hear them

And that Hypers, at least how Don seems to want it, are supposed to be both rare, hard to get and more of a LTM

[strange shell]

Potentially as a hyper you'd gradually grow larger and your hunger drain would increase as well

So at some point it becomes impossible to manage and you die

[acoustic osprey]

Depends how you turn into a Hyper

[muted hill]

maybe the longer one lives the greater the hunger increase

[acoustic osprey]

But if you just grow into a Hyper, I wouldn't mind it being something akin to Elders

You have a "peak" moment, but then you slowly die off

but, not too sure about that.
Depends on it's balance

[strange shell]

I think it can work this way no matter the way one becomes a hyper

[acoustic osprey]

yes

Although, I don't want an affinity-esque Hyper
It'd be a bit goofy seeing a Hyper-Omni/Utah grow into the size of a Brachi/Rex

but basically growing to the extent where it cannot literally support itself

Like, in-grown body parts (horns, etc)
etc, etc

Y'know?

[strange shell]

Like becoming more physically extreme instead of larger ?

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah

Monstrous

Basically from old to ugly to "horror-game" monster (plus larger, to a realistic extent)

[strange shell]

Yeah there could be a "young hyper" morph and "old hyper" morph that is more monstrous
But I think it should also be larger and stronge,r but with some ridiculous hunger drain

Like at the moment you become hyper you have like 30 minutes hunger drain and by the time your hyper omni reaches the size of allo you have like a 1 minute hunger drain before you starve

(So you basically can't survive to this point because it takes longer to fill up than to empty your stomach)

[acoustic osprey]

Rundown?
No

General broad idea?
Sure

Tribals/Cannibals are known as "Generation One" (in-lore) and are the first version of AE's "Human project" ||not to say there aren't any other human projects, there might just be... looking at Colossus/Echidna/Reaper||
That's it

They also sacrifice things to The Replicator, but not themselves, for rewards
They are also, likely, still connected with Echidna- she likely still being their "Adopted Mother"

[acoustic osprey]

Aye, practically!

I don't mind it growing larger
just nothing crazy and unrealistic for the creature

[strange shell]

Hm
Some sizes are already crazy and unrealistic for the creature

Like old H-Rex

[acoustic osprey]

Yes but! but!

[strange shell]

I get what you mean
We don't want things like BoB

[acoustic osprey]

Aye

I don't mind a Hyper Omni growing into the size of an Allo/elder Allo
(albeit, not too sure on the sizes of an Allo)

but something fitting for the creature
on the realistic sci-fi level

[knotty jolt]

Also I heard something about herbs not being able to become hypers, if so then gameplay wise wouldn't it just give less incentive to play herbs lmao, sure neuro and tisso exist but hyper is basically the poster child for the strains and it seems like herbs would just be a bit more lacking in the "endgame"

[nocturne cosmos]

herbis cant become any strains

[knotty jolt]

Ok but if that's true then what Is the point of playing herb lmao, players being players will flock to the strain compatible dinos because "big stronk" and your not really gonna see much of anything else

[strange shell]

Hypers aren't an "endgame"

[maiden sundial]

If is great. As overwatch would make sense. But if it's someone other one. I got not clue

[strange shell]

Not everyone is gonna become a hyper at some point

[maiden sundial]

Yea hypers are basically just few and far between power trip

[acoustic osprey]

for me, it wouldn't make sense if O's were (akin to belief) just a replaced/"better" Magna

however, how would you make sense of it?

[acoustic osprey]

Most people forget there are other strains

It's also that, unless otherwise mentioned, that only a few select carnis will have the opportunity to become a Hyper/other strains

[bold crater]

I'm still curious as to how Neurotenics and Tissoplastics will be limited, especially since it was solidified relatively recently by Kissen that all strains aren't meant to be permanent. With Hypers, sure, their metabolism eventually gets too much for them to handle.....but what about the others? Having it be the same thing just a different stat (like Neuros lose water super fast) sounds cheap....so hopefully nothing like that.

Though I do very much like the ideas of Neuros' brains just "overloading" in some manner and Tissos having like lactic acid buildup melt them from within (though the latter only works with the original concept for them)

I also hope the limitations kinda scale with the respective strain's power. So like Hypers make sense dying off so quickly since their power is tremendous, whereas Neuros are jellyfish wizards and are all squishy, so they last a bit longer.

[acoustic osprey]

oh did she? Good

Thought so anyways
All strains should be limited, in their own way

[bold crater]

Some time ago, yeah. She mentioned briefly that strains aren't meant to be a permanent presence.

[acoustic osprey]

Good

Hopefully it's not the same route as Hypers though

[gentle vessel]

I’d have neuros be a self wear down thing

The more you use the powers the strain grants, the more you wear down

Less health, less stam, etc

[modern rover]

i mean, tissos are smaller, meaning in a brawn battle with their own kind, a regular version outpowers them, and neuros really dont look like they're that physically held together

[strange shell]

I would love if each strain has to target a specific faction to stay alive longer
Hypers have fast hunger drain>they need to eat dinos
Neuros may need to steal specific chemical agents from human bases
And tissos... Would definitely try to take something from the tribals they can't get from mercs and dinos, but idk what

[stone crater]

Yeah, personally I don’t find strains particularly appealing— I’m happy with the juvi-adult-elder-repeat gameplay loop as long as it’s engaging. Unlockable patterns and nesting/perks, now THAT’s good stuff

Thought we had no idea what tissos even WERE at this point??

[icy onyx]

Yea same

It just seems like an unneeded and overly complicated to balance system that turns the game from a survival game to a race to the top

[modern rover]

We know they were little stealthy bastards, although they are by far the most vague

[stone crater]

last i heard they were being reworked conceptually, and the old "roguish acid-spitting venom-quilled stealth-assassin agility" angle didn't necessarily fit them anymore

[modern rover]

We know for a fact that Tisso Reaper is dead

[minor lava]

I killed it

[modern rover]

(or at least, the old tisso reaper design)

[rapid chasm]

Wondering if AE had attack helicopters to deter larger assets such ad hypers

[modern rover]

more than likely they used the hyper gun, whatever that is

seems a little weird for a medical company to buy that much top-of-the-line military equipment tbh, probably would start raising a lot of red flags and attract a good few government agencies

[maiden sundial]

Well think about it. Æ is very successful right?

[rapid chasm]

yes, but why would you want to kill your work?

A apache which uses dummy rounds works great

[acoustic osprey]

It would make sense for AE to have measures in place to ensure work safety, and the safety of anyone else

If there is no other solution to stop Hypers and/or other strains that are on a rampage, such thing would need to exist

*even then, such gun might not even be able to properly "kill" a Hyper; It might just stop/temporarily immobilise the creature

[gentle vessel]

Also as light said, even if it’s your work, you don’t want that work going rampant and causing more damage and set backs

At that point best to restart and start over clean

[muted hill]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/855527844670865438/1095033428929421352/image.png for the lore peeps, uga posted and delete looks the interior to one of those domes like in the concept idk if its of any use to yall but Ill drop it here incase!

[glossy path]

Can someone explain to me what these “strains” are? I haven’t been able to find much online?

[acoustic osprey]

Nice thanks

[maiden sundial]

Strains are "variants" of dinosaurs that tend to become monstrosities. Like the hypers(mostly called hypos) being short for hyperendocrine. Which produces a lot of armor.

The neurotenic I don't know much about. Same with the tissplastic

[acoustic osprey]

well, less so than Magnas were

Magnas were the true "variants"
Strains were more so "Boosted and enhanced of the original animal"

might be the same case if we still are able to grow from Elder to strain

Hyperendocrin's have an overly excessive activity of hormones in the endocrine system; Meaning faster metabolism, increased appetite, etc
It also likely touches (almost obviously) growth hormones, which means Hypers likely have acromegaly or something akin to it

[acoustic osprey]

Tissoplastic could potentially refer to a type of synthetic "thing" used upon subjects that is used in tissue engineering or regenerative medicine to help support the growth of new tissue.

if tisso = tissue

And the same with Neurotenic
Which could refer to "something" used upon a subject (Neuro-goo) that relates to the brain/nervous system

However, I'm still wondering if they're still being linked with weather? Which was always a bit of a weird aspect in Legacy lore

and felt like a bit of a cheap way to give Neuro's an ability.

[acoustic osprey]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/834873788167356531/1093810819789246485/reverse_pie.gif

<@&933486433342222376> everywhere else

[knotty locust]

you can see the parking bays

definitely a parking lot mixed with a warehouse, as you can see the sliding doors

[modern rover]

where that pic from?

[modern rover]

wasnt it spino-specific back then? Only N-Spino could interact with weather iirc

[muted hill]

Ugatech posted and deleted it I was able to nab it before it got deleted

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1003091745984233563/1078217848922574858/Dome_Interior.png?width=1191&height=447 it reminded me of this, so I put it in here incase there was any lore relevant stuff hiding away

[acoustic osprey]

Yes, I believe it'll likely linked or related
Hard to tell because there will be a lot of things in cover anyways

[acoustic osprey]

Yes, and it was weird and didn't make much sense

[modern rover]

I don't disagree lol

I wouldn't mourn the loss of weatherman spino

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[gentle vessel]

I would rather spino makes it like, foggy

Or makes the illusion of rain, less actual rain

[strange shell]

Thundergod spino ftw

[gentle vessel]

Honestly hell. Let neuros predict weather, less change it on command,
Like sensing changes in atmosphere and the like

So they can use it in their kunnin plans

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/thor-gif-18836639

[acoustic osprey]

oh but Iron, chaos theory

[gentle vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/frying-pan-nelson-cheng-date-of-honor-frying-pan-gif-18023648

[maiden sundial]

You can sometimes predict chaos.

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/fractal-gif-22965315

[gentle vessel]

But ye, giving neuros a kind of weather detection thing would be neat, so they can go

“ok I want to kill this merc base, but if they see me they will shred me, so I will come back in 2 days when it’s raining at night for maximum cover”

[maiden sundial]

There's a pattern here. Just humans cannot see it all

[runic shuttle]

Mandelbrot set ? o:

[acoustic osprey]

fractals

(yes)

[runic shuttle]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a4/Mandelbrot_sequence_new.gif

It's soo cool

[modern rover]

predicting weather def seems like something they'd be capable of doing

i'd imagine neuros have insane boosts to the senses

[fringe marsh]

I feel like neuro’s should just change weather if they’re to compete with hypers

Like a hyper can tank 50 cals, being able to make it rain ain’t too much to ask for

[modern rover]

i dont see how changing weather makes them compete with hypers

[fringe marsh]

Well I’d say it does more than them being able to detect it. Could let them call upon really bad weather which makes it difficult for them to be spotted.

||let them smite them||

[modern rover]

i mean, they don't need the weather

they can cause visual snow that clouds vision passively

at least, that was the idea

[strange shell]

Smite your enemies with thunder

[maiden sundial]

Neuro rex:

[gentle vessel]

I’d rather rex do emp as a neuro

Or a force push kinda thing

[inland ridge]

the humans major amounts of shenanigan's will cause the isle to completely unhabitable

[strange shell]

Emp is a type-N spino trick as well in old lore
Neuro rex will cause snowstorms ||(baseless assumption)||

[rapid chasm]

Fellow anti dinosaur player, would you like to group when humans release?

[modern rover]

doubt that

[maiden sundial]

Highly doubt

[final plinth]

vruh stream

[inland ridge]

yes

[pseudo fable]

Sure.

[acoustic osprey]

I'm not going to doubt this, as it's really up to how it's done in development and balance-tests.
But lore wise? It's more so vice versa

[icy onyx]

wonder how many humans the troodons have killed and does their venom have schizophrenic properties to the brain?

Find out next time on the isle lore theories! I’m your host sir.gecko

[maiden sundial]

Dilo venom is more schizophrenic

Troodon venom is probably more or less necrotic and paralytic

[icy onyx]

there should be a movie about the isle..

[rapid chasm]

will we be able to mount missles on helicopters

this is very important for lore

[maiden sundial]

Did you ping in reply

[stiff lintel]

I call being Assault Specialist. Gimme an M4A1 and Remington 870.

The Remington is for the pachies.

The M4 is for everything else.

[modern rover]

probably not lol

[stiff lintel]

Pachies need a good old serving of 12 gauge buckshot right in the chest cavity.

[acoustic osprey]

I do hope it's not all just about weapons for main gameplay
Rather being casual killer and hunter, as we are no longer Mercenaries, more so proper survival gameplay and defence

[modern rover]

^

[stiff lintel]

Well, pachies will still be the top thing I kill with a shotgun anyway. Bastards earned it.

[stiff lintel]

We'll see.

[modern rover]

I mean, good luck with that, since you'd have to be in a decently close range for the shotgun to deal maximum damage to a pachy, and at that range, it could just headbutt you and instantly kill you

[stiff lintel]

Don't think you realize how far shotguns actually go.

[modern rover]

At long range you're still not dealing maximum damage though? And based on the fact that humans are less geared for the "kill everything" playstyle and much more on the "survive insurmountable odds" playstyle, I'm doubting there'll be many sitautions that let you go around blasting pachies

[acoustic osprey]

Well

It'd be weird that AE product has to kill other AE product, especially if they're not a strain

Of course, if X animal is trying to kill you
What can you do?

[inland ridge]

i hope there is a 4 gauge shotgun

for rex's and carnos

[stiff lintel]

12 gauge is enough for carnos

[inland ridge]

but 4 gauge will erase them

there skin is pretty tough tho

i mean a 12 gauge would do it but bigger the better

[icy onyx]

I can already see the betrayal of a friend as something breaks into the base and you fly off watching them get eaten

[modern rover]

the idea of a gun that can easily kill rexes or even carnos is a hard no from me thanks

[icy onyx]

Carnos sure rexes no

[modern rover]

nah, carnos easily dying is also lame

thats a 2 hour growtime, it should at least be able to survive humans consistently

[icy onyx]

I mean obviously not a instant or fast kill but a carno should be punished for running straight into a human base if they are armed

[modern rover]

into a human base, obviously, but out in the plains, carno should have the vast advantage

[icy onyx]

Yea for sure

[maiden sundial]

Hold on wouldn't a hyper increased endocrine system basically have every hormone that a species produces go into overdrive?

[acoustic osprey]

Hyperendocrin's have an overly excessive activity of hormones in the endocrine system; Meaning faster metabolism, increased appetite, etc
It also likely touches (almost obviously) growth hormones, which means Hypers likely have acromegaly or something akin to it

[maiden sundial]

Wouldn't this also include higher amounts of aggression. And fecundity?

[acoustic osprey]

If it's anything related to hormones, yes
Hyper everything

[maiden sundial]

I'm guessing their immune systems are basically god tier

Considering the thymus is both endocrine and immune system

They'd make excellent subjects for seeing how the immune system is affected

[acoustic osprey]

shame they die (starve) quickly

just being a hyper anything just means everything else has to be on your level to survive

But, then it wouldn't really be a hyper if everything else was sustainable for it survive
As everything else, theoretically, would be a hyper/equivalent for both a hyper to survive and for them (everything else) to sustainably survive in an ecosystem

[rapid chasm]

no

[maiden sundial]

Good.

[rapid chasm]

If human gameplay is done properly it will require careful movements and planning, and will be more about survival and defending yourself

[acoustic osprey]

That's the dream

[rapid chasm]

cant wait to find some friendly utahs and blast their kids with a 12 gauge!

[inland ridge]

same

thats been a dream of mine for a while now

[strange shell]

Genetic manipulation is the cause for hyperendocrins metabolism. As for the reason, I think it rather has something to do with curing deadly illnesses, regeneration or even immortality. Of course it didn't work as intended.

[acoustic osprey]

having a "hyper" "endocrine system" would entail a faster metabolism
As anything related to hormones would be, basically being boosted/increased to an excessive extent

Why?
Medical reasons

A bit strange
But yes, apparently, it's all/mostly (at least to public knowledge) it's medical

[icy onyx]

Harvest hormones

Also there’s a Type H animal that could fictionally get away with being sustainable

Which is Deinosuchus

As it’s ectothermic

[devout python]

hello I had an idea for humans later so I explain to you they are the right a base he captures dinosaurs like in jurassic world a raptor land you have to feed them all his and the raptor kills he must escape trying to eat humans or create if humans way who is trained to do a tranquilizer arrow hole or kill after it is just an idea

[maiden sundial]

Can you say this again with periods pls. No offense it's just hard to say

[chrome acorn]

Are there any building in the middle of gateway?

[cinder shoal]

There are building in gateway, but I don’t know about the center specifically because I barely know the map.

[icy onyx]

I Got high hopes for gateway

2024 is going to be lit 🔥

[sage cedar]

They were in December, stress testers got their hands on it for some time but they can’t rn

[cinder shoal]

Yeah it was a test a while ago, I just still have pictures

[cinder shoal]

They said gateway will be coming U7 in the devblogs. This test was mostly just a teaser, hence why we can share it.

[icy onyx]

The lore is part of the reason jurassic park happened and the people made monsters along with the dinosaurs

[strange shell]

The Isle lore isn't tied with Jurassic Park

[icy onyx]

I know

i just saying they both brought dinosaurs to life again

[modern rover]

Actually not entirely true

AE's methods and InGen's methods are quite different

[icy onyx]

thats the only difference i knew

[modern rover]

InGen clones the dinosaur using DNA from mosquitos trapped in amber, using DNA from modern day animals to fill in the gaps, or change the animal to fit a specific purpose

AE builds from the ground up, using the dinosaur's skeleton and known physioligy as reference, but not actually cloning the dinosaur itself

That's why they have version numbers for the animals, and the entire reason Gen 1 exists, because they aren't perfect the first time

With the galli doc, this is referenced. Feathered gallis were an earlier version that got "updated" to the current galli, which displayed new behaviours.

JP = take the dinosaur itself and remake it, fill in the gaps where necessary

The Isle = use the organism as a reference for your creation, make a creature based on that reference, then update dependent on what the outcome is, and what you want the outcome to be

The paleo-inaccuracies in The Isle are quite literally canon, because if AE wants the animal to be a certain way, they can make it that way, the actual dinosaur is nothing more than a reference sheet. JP has less of an excuse because they claim to be cloning the whole animal based on its DNA

[fringe marsh]

That's kinda kick-ass. Like it's a much better reason for an animal to be inaccurate.

[icy onyx]

Thanks I had no idea!

[severe arrow]

is evirma and legacy connected lore wise

[strange shell]

Nope

[severe arrow]

and do hypos,and neutros (i forgot what they're called) in evirma

[strange shell]

Yes those are coming back (and it's neuro/neurotenic/type N)

[rustic nexus]

Havent been in here for a while

[acoustic osprey]

you haven't

[rustic nexus]

What have i missed

[acoustic osprey]

nothing