isle-lore-theories

[acoustic osprey]

Albeit, this would be if AE didn't make the Dinos
They just dug the bones out of the ground and The Replicator spat them out as living creatures

Aka. AE doesn't have the DNA of the dinos, so they need The Replicator to make dinosaur out of the bone

Could be why Omniraptor exists

[crisp raven]

I think that is it. Its not the humans creating them. Its the Replicator

[acoustic osprey]

Their first try at making their own dinosaur

[acoustic osprey]

Under the surveillance of AE

[crisp raven]

Could be that they modified Utah DNA but got something different

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[crisp raven]

So omni in a sense is like a strain. Or strains are human made

[edgy pike]

however many of them are left in current times that is

[crisp raven]

That must be it. AE turns the dinosaurs into strains, enhancing them to further work on their dino human hybrids

Maybe Gen 1s are made out of Strain Dinosaur DNA

[tidal bramble]

Possibly, strain mutation is likely the event of circumstantial and physical surroundings, having to do with survival and evolution of the surrounding predators

[crisp raven]

Strains must be lab created

Because apparently players can become strains if they meet the proper requirements iirc. I could have made all this up lol. Just thought it was mentioned before

strains are unnatural

[acoustic osprey]

Tartarus 😎

[crisp raven]

isn't tartarus the prison?

[tidal bramble]

Not necessarily, quite possible that variants had recessive genetics that could have come through genetic pass through. Thus meaning: as the Dino’s reproduced naturally on their own, these “strains” could have mutated on their own as well if the circumstances were right

[acoustic osprey]

No, that's just Greek Mythos

[crisp raven]

tartarus isn't a prison

[acoustic osprey]

Tartarus could just be relatively code-name for the underground facility that creates things

things like Strains

[crisp raven]

Hades entrance goes to Tartarus I'm assuming

[acoustic osprey]

No

[crisp raven]

Players could enter tartarus, and then from there become strainas

[acoustic osprey]

All three go to Olympus Central

[crisp raven]

oh

[acoustic osprey]

please no.
Not dino human hybrids

[crisp raven]

maybe tartarus is built around the replicator

[acoustic osprey]

I'm just glad Gen 2s don't look like Dinos

[crisp raven]

Aren't those gen 1s?

[acoustic osprey]

Gen 1s are just, from Legacy, bigger monstrous Dinos

Nothing really dino-like in design

[crisp raven]

so then how did they become human

[acoustic osprey]

They're naturally human

[crisp raven]

or have human intelligence

[acoustic osprey]

Their basal design being human

[crisp raven]

what? How can something be naturally human and also be a dinosaur?

[acoustic osprey]

No, I'm not saying it's a dinosaur

I'm saying it's a Human

Just highly altered

[crisp raven]

like colossus which looks like a gorilla crocodile

[crisp raven]

they must have dinosaur DNA

[acoustic osprey]

Colossus and reaper are really the only ones with proper "Dino" design

[crisp raven]

The whole reason why the dinosaurs are even there

[crisp raven]

who is reaper

[acoustic osprey]

even then, Reaper is more of a bat

To vega's design, if it doesn't change much

Echidna and Eyeless both containing aspects of "Dino-legs"

[crisp raven]

Reaper from ark

[acoustic osprey]

What?

[crisp raven]

it looks like an ark reaper

[acoustic osprey]

loosely

[crisp raven]

that looks cool though

I bet they're inside tartarus right?

[acoustic osprey]

at least were

but I don't think AE are explicitly trying to make "Human Dino Hybrid"

(In terms of half human half dino)

More so, with the human strains, using aspects of the "Strained Dinos"

Unless the strained humans weren't on purpose.

[crisp raven]

so humans with dinosaur like aspects

maybe the strains used on the dinosaurs aren't related to dinosaurs, but mutate them like they mutate humans

[acoustic osprey]

Pretty much

[crisp raven]

so this?

[acoustic osprey]

could be

[tender dock]

Oshkosh HEMTT A4 Patriot Tractor + Raytheon MIM-104 PATRIOT Missle System
2004 International Transtar 8600 Daycab + 48ft Dry Van Trailer
Ford M151 MUTT (Military Utility Tactical Truck)
Unkown Land Rover/Jeep/Side by Side
Small Fishing Boat

[acoustic osprey]

The Quetz art and that truck in the aviary aren't properly confirmed though

[tender dock]

Thats why its all concept, for all we know they may not be operable at all

[acoustic osprey]

or exist

[tender dock]

that too

[acoustic osprey]

the rest most likely will exist

either as actual models (playable or not)

or just in-lore

[tender dock]

The heli is in 2 concept pics both as drawings

they also have teased the heli pad multiple times

[acoustic osprey]

yes

K15 has a heli pad

[tender dock]

aye I wanna lock onto a quetz with a missle truck

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[daring zinc]

https://youtu.be/BQfKy-JVN84

[icy onyx]

What is known about Gateway lore specifically

[acoustic osprey]

As an Isle Lore enthusiast
I agree

[acoustic osprey]

Gateway is a gateway to Tartarus

[icy onyx]

welp, is there also a source where I can read every drop of Isle lore put together so I feel more up to date and less flat

[acoustic osprey]

Well you can check my doc and Hellshade's one

In the pinned messages

[icy onyx]

ah ty

[acoustic osprey]

No worries

Use it as a buffer for the time though

I need to make a proper "Evrima lore and where we are" video some time in the close future

[icy onyx]

Oh

"Gateway is not *only *referring to the island itself"

• Dondi

this intrigued me

so start referring to the new map coming as Isla Velada more often now

[runic shuttle]

But he also said that "Gateway is the name given to the Map", so it doesn't make sense refering to it as Isla Velada!

even if isla Velada is part of gateway

[icy onyx]

Gateway is known to have two references, Velada doesn't, that confuses me then

i only know what feels like a fraction of the lore of whats already known

[runic shuttle]

I'm not sure what Dondi meant it not only refers to the island, hm

[icy onyx]

we'll never know

[crisp shale]

I’ve got a bit of a suspicion that humans have a part to play here

[icy onyx]

I can wait for evrima updates but seriously cannot wait for the lore to unravel itself

[runic shuttle]

[icy onyx]

I hope theres secrets on the map coming to discover

[runic shuttle]

Lightclaw might have some ideas to stuff like that

[icy onyx]

If tartarus is an underground facility in Gateway i'm hoping that we have some access to some of the facilities areas and room

and that there will be a hunt for lore items and dossiars. like intel i guess

[chrome acorn]

@acoustic osprey so this is real but outdated would this help with your grid you were making?

[nova tinsel]

would anyone be willing to give a quick, ELi5 on the lore? ive tried reading the doc but it's very long and i dont quite understand all of it. i know that AE is a company, created dinosaurs (maybe humans) on this island and then things went wrong so they abandoned it but... any other easy details that someone is willing to explain? :) im sorry if this is annoying

[icy onyx]

What?

[icy onyx]

Weird

I mean there are several islands on the Gateway map

Maybe the main island is isla Velada

Velada in Spanish can have a BUNCH of different connotations. A LOT.

It can refer to a dam, to a person being mourned, to a veil, to a very quiet sound, to your lawful couple, a nocturnal event/reunion, etc

I would be more inclined to think that it’s related to mourning and/or veils.

When someone dies you go to a religious ceremony (“velación”) in which the person is mourned (“velada”). A place that is being mourned because of a past tragedy?

People during these ceremonies and during funerals overall wear veils (“velos”). If someone, or something, is wearing a veil they are (“velada”, “velado”). An Island with a very dense fog?

And finally, to do a night watch or to care for a vulnerable person during the night (“velar”). It is also a verb used in navigation > Protruding or manifesting on the surface of the water some reef, rock or other dangerous object for navigators.

Basically all these definitions come from either ‘vigilare’ (to guard/watch over) or from ‘velare - velum’ (to mourn, to veil)

Though probably the name isn’t even being used anymore

[acoustic osprey]

veiled

[acoustic osprey]

Tartarus

[icy onyx]

but not much about tartarus then

[icy onyx]

what is tartarus

[acoustic osprey]

In Greek Mythos, an underground prison for the titans

[icy onyx]

titans

[acoustic osprey]

In Evrima? Might be an underground facility of sorts

for the strains, etc

or literally the prison for the strains

[icy onyx]

theres not much else i could think of than to house strains

[acoustic osprey]

bilbo^

[acoustic osprey]

Pretty much
House and/or create them

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/well-there-it-is-jurassic-park-ian-malcolm-gif-19711514

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401480573471948821/1056784575541555220/Untitled.png

See what I'm guessing

is that Tartarus is likely the bottom thing in this abstract (Network Graph)

this

Why?
Usually broken lines in network theory is an indication to go "down in altitude"

[icy onyx]

does that document refer to the whole of their operations

or just the exterior state ||blank||

[acoustic osprey]

The broken paper? Likely mostly
Being the "general site designations"

Likely just Gateway

also with Velada

[icy onyx]

so the site could be gateway being referred to on the document, and Tartarus is on gateway? hidden away somewhere on the island

[acoustic osprey]

Somewhere and somehow, Tartarus is there

I mean, there's not a lot of places you could do that

besides putting it "underground"

[icy onyx]

underground then, the monorail system on the island does go through terrain

[acoustic osprey]

The monorail system is connected/linked with the GUTS system

😎

[icy onyx]

glad i read your thing otherwise no clue what guts is

its just generic

[acoustic osprey]

it's likely that the actual "lines" themselves in the document are actual GUTS tracks

[acoustic osprey]

pretty much, so general stuff.
So I say generically linking up "general" areas on the map

[icy onyx]

so its the link between the general site designations, not linking so much to tartarus :(

[acoustic osprey]

nothing specific.
So I don't presume every "outpost" on Gateway will be linked

[acoustic osprey]

It might be.
Tartarus would be a hotspot for scientists

[icy onyx]

the dotted lines on each site designation all link to what you think may be tartarus

so somehow theres a way to get to tartarus maybe from those points

[acoustic osprey]

If it's generic, it would be running from the "generic" locations on the map
Nothing small or too specific. Like you'd want one that goes to the main parts like Olympus CC or Transmitter

[acoustic osprey]

It could be the broken lines

As Network Theory might allude to it

But.
But.

[icy onyx]

i really hope this map answers some questions

[acoustic osprey]

I could be very wrong.
The abstract has no key

[acoustic osprey]

I hope so too.
Lore is fun. Finding lore on a map is fun.

[icy onyx]

i wish more people too an interest into the lore, it got me giddy

[acoustic osprey]

But I know Don has some written lore.
I believe we might be able to read some of it in-game? As fallen papers

but I'm not too sure if I remember it too clearly

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/snowman-welcome-to-himalayas-monsters-inc-cold-heart-gif-12435231

It blew up when the documents in P3 were released

so I'm just glad it can draw people in

but for the most part.
It's usually me, a small handful of others, just talking

Typically someone asks an absurd/interesting idea about lore

[icy onyx]

and you're there to answer

[acoustic osprey]

I come and answer it, I explain the document and Tartarus

tell them about the broken lines and GUTS

same routine every time.
I'm not insane

[icy onyx]

i worry that you've been doing the same thing for the past two - three years

[acoustic osprey]

No, I've been talking in #isle-discussion for the past three or so years now

[icy onyx]

Okay good

[acoustic osprey]

But I've been doing this (lore) for a proper year.
Realised I don't need to help much in #🔧-evrima-troubleshooting-🔧, which used to be my common home

[icy onyx]

xd

[acoustic osprey]

for the mean time,
Just gotta casually wait and see if Don goes to see this channel for something interesting to answer it

[icy onyx]

i feel like i've just entered this chat as a trap now and i will share your fate almost

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-pascal-mandalorian-laugh-cry-gif-21495683

[icy onyx]

Nice

[acoustic osprey]

Aye

[icy onyx]

#isle-lore-theories message

[acoustic osprey]

if only

[bold crater]

[acoustic osprey]

I can wait. I'm patient to wait.
If Don does come here, I'll be sure to ask him Bilbo

[tender dock]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1003091745984233563/1032505888881246208/ENV_5.png
You think H is the viewing platform inside the Aviary?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401480573471948821/1056784575541555220/Untitled.png

[acoustic osprey]

could be

[tender dock]

do you know if they ever said how big gateway will be like in terms of spiro or km

[acoustic osprey]

Bigger than playable spiro

small than full spiro

[tender dock]

[bold crater]

There's also biomes finally

Instead of just "plains, jungle, river"

[tender dock]

now we get "plain, jungles, river v2, lake, birdcage, grass, sand, dam, human settlement"

[bold crater]

And some arid areas >:3

And whatever those woods are

[tender dock]

add a giant pit like in the forest game

[toxic zinc]

We also get islands

Which could be interessing for humans

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[icy onyx]

I don't know how many of the islands are connected to GUTS but I reckon a lot of them will be safe havens for growing Pteranodon.

[acoustic osprey]

When you say islands, do you mean something like the Gateway leak? Or something like Gateway to Spiro?

[icy onyx]

South Eastern Island has that monorail system linking it to the main island

[acoustic osprey]

dubbed as Britain

[icy onyx]

it looks like a reversed britain actually if you tilt your head left lol

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

Westeros but East

[icy onyx]

Certain they wouldn't not get rid of that island if it had a monorail connecting it so that interesting

[acoustic osprey]

Must have something important about it

[icy onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/peter-griffin-but-i-want-it-now-gif-26307521

[acoustic osprey]

maybe

maybe Phase Three will contain some lore
Maybe, maybe not

[bold crater]

Is that the "leak" people have been talking about?

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[bold crater]

Hmmmm

Not sure if I trust it or not.

[acoustic osprey]

It's real

Just old

[bold crater]

Kinda makes me think of the Troodon and Cerato "leaks" people bragged about as if they were hackers

[acoustic osprey]

Same guy

[bold crater]

And then Punch was just like "lol we put that in the files on purpose though"

Oh

[acoustic osprey]

It's not a leak
More so info Devs put into the game early on purpose, and then someone able to find the directory

[bold crater]

Well, even if it's old, it looks pertty neat. I like the many islands.

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[lyric spire]

what's the timeframe of the game's lore?

[severe raft]

Somewhere in the 80's/90's, then a hiatus for a couple of years, then early 2000's

[acoustic osprey]

something something

our Earth roughly 1980s-90s
then something happened (maybe) but AE left (certain)

And it has been around 20-60 years since. Now they are back

[lyric spire]

so somewhere between 2020-2045

[acoustic osprey]

Roughly

if you're doing anything with lore, please let me in or let me advise.
Lore is fun. You need a lore adviser.

[lyric spire]

I'll get some details from you next time I make a skit

been making a lot of them, they get better each

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/better-call-saul-bcs-best-decision-gif-26287112

[idle geyser]

No devblog today ?

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-discussion

But we'll likely see a devblog on Friday
IF the devs are able to

[idle geyser]

Oh okay, thanks and my bad

[acoustic osprey]

no worries

[bold crater]

One thing I wonder about AE is how big they are. I've always imagined them as kind of like the SCP Foundation where they're mostly a secret, but they have eyes and ears everywhere. That random old warehouse you see down the street? Yep, that's them hiding in plain sight. This simple company that sells simple medicines? You guessed it! Connected to AE. Etc.

[icy onyx]

I brought up where and how they get their funding a couple days ago as that's an amazing thing that can be used to tell a lot about the company and its capabilities. Clearly the funding is high with what they've achieved but who gives said funding is the question

[icy onyx]

i love yoy

[acoustic osprey]

Thank you, you too

[light flare]

The Union Aerospace Corporation Umbrella Corporation Apollo Engineering Corporation is the largest corporate entity in existence. Originally focused on weapon and defense contracts new ventures have expanded into biological research, space exploration, and other scientific endeavors. With unlimited funds and the ability to engage in research outside of moral and legal obligations the UAC Umbrella AE controls the most advanced technology ever conceived.

[acoustic osprey]

Medicine

[light flare]

"Medicine"

[acoustic osprey]

Medicine

[lavish acorn]

[vague root]

According to this, on 12/7 291 was trying to get from whatever point G is to B, probably though the tunnels considering he had (assumingly) turns written down (left left left right front left), but somehow was found near what is being designated as the D section (which must be the Olympus Transmitter, since it is designated as D on another AE document)

The only problem being that it doesn't make sense

[acoustic osprey]

Which part not making sense

[vague root]

The transmitter has no connection to hades entry on the "map", it either means that you cannot move between them due to one of them being only accessible from the tunnels, or that the connections are guts passageways

Either way errant wouldn't need to pass the transmitter

Assuming D-section IS the transmitter

I might be missing something

Also, i didnt see anyone talking about the incident in the document taking place literally in the middle-end of the 22 century??

So are we like, using equipment 2 centuries old

Vehicles, guns, etc

You know it couldn't be a zero in a document, it was a clear "one" in both dates

[void apex]

Or perhaps the isle is on an alternative earth, where either technology developed slower than on regular earth, or it just started counting before we did.

[vague root]

Makes sense, it is on an alternate earth anyway

But i doubt dondi would just randomly decide to alternate the timeline

I mean, there should be a reason at least

[stable igloo]

Does anyone believe there could be a hypo acrocanthosaurus in the works??

[strange shell]

no

[stable igloo]

Would be dope to see Fr

[icy onyx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401480390528729091/795076457890054194/image0.png

This is also nice unofficial fanart by pelestence

[lavish acorn]

news?

[acoustic osprey]

No

[acoustic osprey]

Earth (?)

I don't find an alt. Earth to be implausible

It validates this sci fi stuff as plausible

[sinful shale]

So I've been trying to get back into Isle lore, and I discover Phoenix Corp is no longer relevant, yes?

and what's up with guts? Are we going to see whatever those systems are anytime soon?

[acoustic osprey]

yes

GUTS is the Generic Underground Transport System

we'll see it be connected/utilised through stuff like The Monorail system

[sinful shale]

So then operation inferno is completely scrapped?

[acoustic osprey]

Most likely, yes

[sinful shale]

New map?

[acoustic osprey]

Gateway

[sinful shale]

yeah

[acoustic osprey]

we'll likely see Spiro getting it's "GUTS" additions/things Gateway got once Gateway is done

[sinful shale]

EIP's, theyre still valid?

[sinful shale]

BOTH maps worked on? Interesting. I thought Spiro was getting left in the dust.

[acoustic osprey]

No

[acoustic osprey]

Spiro will be worked on, just after Spiro is done

we do know that this map, Gateway, will be a gateway to Tartarus

Likely, I'm presuming, through the means of going down

[sinful shale]

So currently there is no explanation for player consciousness? Or does the replicator still do that, and are the eyeless things still relevant to echidna and the repli

[acoustic osprey]

And I hope there will never be

[sinful shale]

I was under the impression Tartarus was a holding place

[acoustic osprey]

facility, prison, place, who knows

[acoustic osprey]

The trinity are back; Echidna, Reaper and Colossus

we know Echidna is some sort of "Carrier"

Colossus might change

have you read the documents in the pinned tab by any chance?

[sinful shale]

Carrier as in creator? Strange. Still seems relatively similar to me. And strains? I know Hyper stays. Sorry for all the questions

[sinful shale]

Briefed through key points

[acoustic osprey]

All three.
Magna variant not staying, getting replaced by "O"s

[sinful shale]

Only specimen known is Quetz? Only one I saw

[acoustic osprey]

Carrier as in something, we don't know

[acoustic osprey]

We know that Quetz's Magna is being replaced by "O"s
but Magnas are gone

So we're guessing the other Magnas are getting the same treatment

[sinful shale]

I see I see

Last question

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[sinful shale]

Do we know if any of the old people have still been confirmed
ex. Chance, Vega, Khorne

[acoustic osprey]

Nope

[sinful shale]

Damn

Alright, tough luck

[acoustic osprey]

pretty much

[sinful shale]

Thanks though I'll reread through the docs again.

[acoustic osprey]

Assume legacy lore as gone till any aspects are reconfirmed, pretty much

[acoustic osprey]

very good 👍

[sinful shale]

I liked the idea of replication though it was cool. Endless cycle of life&death

Alas

[acoustic osprey]

Replicator is still here though

[sinful shale]

Ah I mean player-wise. I assume for tribals or eyeless or whatever the heck you call either are still the same cycle thing just not the players

I dunno, I guess it doesn't matter atp. All u can do is wait n see

[acoustic osprey]

Eyeless are the Eyeless and the Tribals are the Cannibals (Gen 1)

But we're still pretty unsure on the whole thing. Not a lot has been confirmed yet

[sinful shale]

Exactly. Meh. We'll see

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[acoustic osprey]

but we have been getting some aspects of lore

just not to the scale of Legacy yet

[sinful shale]

Hope we get a lot through Gateway especially since even the name implies lore

[acoustic osprey]

hopefully

[icy onyx]

I know Gateway is hot topic but what does Isla Spiro serve to The Isle's lore since it feels unfinished and incomplete, especially with the untextured docks.

[acoustic osprey]

Multiple "lore-ish" videos being based on Spiro
That's it

[icy onyx]

welp

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[fair heath]

my lore: humans fard all over the dinosaurs, and then quetz shows up and eats them, turns into hypo quetz and wins

[sinful shale]

Living up to your name I see

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[tender dock]

Are we the Errant?

A generation 2 (Replicated human) sent to unleash/enter the gateway to Tartarus to get to the Titans? and our lifecycle aka designation is about the stone rolled up the mountain or a sort of snowball effect?

kinda similar to games like Dayz - Start freshspawn, get geared, die repeat until we succeed

[acoustic osprey]

We have no idea on what ERRANT is

besides that he speaks.
So he must be either Gen 2/Normal Human or Gen 1

[tender dock]

I think your really liking that gen 1 story

Sisyphus never died neither do we (the human behind the screen of our player)
Our in game characters die yes but we still carry their memories and tasks to the next life aka the stone

[acoustic osprey]

Unless your name is Maul

[tender dock]

he died and came back too

[acoustic osprey]

then died

[tender dock]

without legs

[acoustic osprey]

shame they didn't keep his Sisyphus story

Would've loved to see him being tortured forever like a proper Sispyhus

[tender dock]

im really still trying to figure out what this word is

[vague root]

I meant that there is no need to drastically change history, in the end of the day this would just leave nothing to... push off from, i guess?

Besides, i doubt dondi wants outside world to feel more alien than the islands .-.

[acoustic osprey]

just alternative

Nothing alien and un-earth

or it could be a non-earth earth with a very similar history

[vague root]

A century of technological advancement lost sounds kinda drastic for a similar history

Alternative calendar might be the case, but there still should be a reason behind it

[acoustic osprey]

hence why Earth (?)

[vague root]

Oh, thats what you meant

[acoustic osprey]

not limited to the worldbuilding of our world

[vague root]

I already forgot about this

[acoustic osprey]

Doesn't mean it's Alpha Centauri or an alien planet

just that it's not this Earth.
Likely alternative universe

[vague root]

Of course, i don't mean alien literally too

[acoustic osprey]

but, we don't know. Need better info and see what's still accurate about Isle's location/universe

[vague root]

Fair.

[icy onyx]

It would make sense if it wasn't earth, its almost always overcast in game 😭
no sun whatsoever

[icy onyx]

just means it was in Britain then

[fringe marsh]

an F-ton. They said a swore!

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/olaf-wow-gif-22190506

[tender dock]

https://tenor.com/view/kms-im-gonna-gus-gusjohnson-gif-18194767

bro I dont understand this anymore

things make sense then they dont

[icy onyx]

V e l a d a

[acoustic osprey]

Gateway

[livid shard]

You guys remember the human building on the swamp, It looks like they were scaping from there

[tender dock]

Gateway to hell

[livid shard]

I think that by the gate position

It looks like a kind of jeep scaped from there

[acoustic osprey]

Tartarus

[tender dock]

Tartarus aka off brand hell

[acoustic osprey]

Tell that to the Greeks

[livid shard]

as if something had puzzled or scared them enough to make them get out of there in a hurry

[tender dock]

I did and they said Σώπα, καθυστερημένος

[icy onyx]

my gf is greek

not related to isle lore but stilll

[acoustic osprey]

Tell them to reform Byzantine

then go to The Isle

[tender dock]

You mean Hyperborea

[acoustic osprey]

no

[icy onyx]

Hyperendocrin Macedonians

[icy onyx]

huh?

there's two buildings on the swamp, and the dam

do you mean the one with the broken fence right?

[livid shard]

Yeah

[acoustic osprey]

scaping?

[livid shard]

Yes

[icy onyx]

i think someone was trying to get in

rather than out

[livid shard]

I dont think so

[acoustic osprey]

scaping

[icy onyx]

let me get a close look

[livid shard]

The gates seem to open outwards instead of inwards, and it appears that a vehicle pushed through them.

[icy onyx]

that's a pretty clean cut

someone was preparing rations (staying, or escaping)

[livid shard]

And I don't think so much that they were escaping from some big creature, maybe some small but dangerous dinosaur or something the size of a human, seeing the lockers we might think it was some military intervention or something else, some creature

[icy onyx]

there's also blood around

[livid shard]

Maybe they didn't have time to prepare everything before running away, because it seems they were in a hurry

That's due to the fact that the generators are still running

[acoustic osprey]

or it was just loosely placed on Spiro

[icy onyx]

never noticed this points perfectly towards the dam

[acoustic osprey]

seeing as Spiro is pretty much the embodiment of it

[icy onyx]

wdym

[acoustic osprey]

asset place
asset place

[icy onyx]

oh, that the assets and buildings are temp

placeholders?

[acoustic osprey]

Likely not even placeholders

(not the models themselves)

but Spiro in general

[icy onyx]

yeah i understand what you’re saying

[acoustic osprey]

A rushed masterpiece

[icy onyx]

[severe raft]

Hypo Utah when

[acoustic osprey]

Hyper Utah already in Legacy lore

but if you're asking for "When Hyper Utah" in Evrima?
that's a #isle-discussion question that wont be answered

[livid shard]

What about Chad Hypsi Hypo

[toxic zinc]

In the ripped piece of paper it mentioned that you should ignore some sort of noise and you should not hear an echo, it could be meaning troodon mimic could mimic human noises to trap them or neuro creatures

[acoustic osprey]

or a Gen 1/Echidna

[sand seal]

Neuro.

[weak heart]

Neuro Troodon.

[empty fractal]

hey guys. where can i like catch up on the isle lore?

[empty fractal]

srry if wrong chat

[rapid chasm]

what is that

[icy onyx]

GUTS

[acoustic osprey]

Jungle I Sector

RS I 12

Highlands J sector

wonder if they're just placeholder names

Afterthought Easter Egg still there

[hexed flax]

So stress testers can play on Gateway now?

[acoustic osprey]

aye

[hexed flax]

Have you been to the Aviary? Did it play the trumpet sound?

[acoustic osprey]

No

but which Aviary 🙂

I haven't been to all of them

[hexed flax]

I see. Is it true that the devs have removed many lore related things from this build?

[acoustic osprey]

all the papers are lorem ipsum haha

[hexed flax]

I don't speak Latin lol

[acoustic osprey]

they're just placeholder papers

well, all in "fake latin"

[hexed flax]

What papers are you talking about?

[acoustic osprey]

one here

[icy onyx]

Apparently the gateway currently open is "stripped down" so some bits and pieces are missing purposely which makes me believe some questions will be answered and some more will come with this map and Im now really annoyed it isn't in my hands yet

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

It's just a preview

[icy onyx]

[acoustic osprey]

so we'll likely see more hopefully

[icy onyx]

Can't wait to explore them tunnels and see what they're hiding

[acoustic osprey]

hopefully

[hexed flax]

And they are written in a language that doesn't exist?

[acoustic osprey]

aye

[acoustic osprey]

So we have 2 proper locations we know of (for names)

K15 (which is the helipad outpost)

and I12 (which you can spawn at)

I12 does not have a helipad though

Although I do wonder if the names on the stuff like the CRT monitor are real (in lore)

or just placeholder names

also product placement

AE U331

[tender dock]

Apollo Engineering Unit-331

[acoustic osprey]

maybe

[acoustic osprey]

I do wonder

if this offshoot section of the network graph (Botany)

is of the 2nd Island?

[icy onyx]

Actually, not too bad of a theory. I was thinking about the Botany section yesterday

[toxic zinc]

Since it is so isolated it would probably be an island

[icy onyx]

It's one of those things where it seems like it's meaningless but could hold some secrets. Outside of medicinal and (maybe) herbivore needs, what else could AE need a section dedicated to Botany for and why is there only one entrance to it

[toxic zinc]

Yes I believe that the island has two entrances through monorail

[icy onyx]

If it's on an island that could open up to us seeing some insane strains of fauna or something

cause strains of plants alongside animals can't be disproved yet

[acoustic osprey]

and it's a scary thought

[toxic zinc]

Or because of the lack of large predators that would be on the island the plants would be affected differently

[icy onyx]

If I'm remembering right I remember like this giant tree in some early concepts

[acoustic osprey]

if the botany section is "isolated"

imagine if you accidentally contaminated the mainland with the "Strain plants"

if such strain plants existed

[icy onyx]

I FOUND IT

[acoustic osprey]

one of them

albeit, that's real old

[acoustic osprey]

Spino size comparison one

[icy onyx]

Granted yeah they're old but it shows that the devs had, had at some point crazy ideas for plants

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[light flare]

is that the tree all the "cannibals" come crawling out of at night

[balmy valley]

its looking like the plant from ice age 3 i think ?

[teal plover]

lol it kinda does

[vague root]

Did anybody check the tunnels for smth interesting already?

Or perhaps these are restricted for now

[acoustic osprey]

You can't go through them

[icy onyx]

Brazil Nuts?? Gateway is a gateway to Brazil?? New lore theories?? Location of Isla Velada???? REAL??
Tartarus is Brazil all along??!?!!!

[runic shuttle]

I like cashews 😊

[acoustic osprey]

Russula

Russia
Soviet union
Cold war

Oh my goodness.
The Isle was made for the cold war

[icy onyx]

Soviet intervention in biogenetics

[acoustic osprey]

Phoenix International?
No
Soviet strains

Taking the "the isle is an alternative realty" to an extreme with that one

[tender dock]

we are in another dimension and earth was nuked during the cold war thats why earth is hell aka tartarus

[rapid chasm]

What if AE made the dinosaurs for military applications?

[maiden sundial]

Its mostly medicinal purposes iirc. Thought I'd expect certain ones could be used for military purposes. The strains i mean

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/comedy-good-gif-18339262

Well, most likely no

[icy onyx]

I genuinely hope not,

[river ocean]

Well, if only the creation of a super soldier, this fits the theory that AE wants to create an ideal human.

[acoustic osprey]

from the sounds of it, no

[maiden sundial]

Well gen 2 tribals are supposed to be more "perfect" humans

[acoustic osprey]

Which, AE might be making "Gen 2s" (Perfect Human) for the reason of easy profit from aristocrats

But, if AE are making the "perfect human"

Why send them to the islands?

[river ocean]

Test?

[acoustic osprey]

Who knows

[maiden sundial]

Testing them. If you can survive an island of dinosaurs. You could survive anything

[river ocean]

You know, send them into a dangerous environment and see if the perfect human can survive.

[acoustic osprey]

Like, if they were made for "Militaristic" reasons then sending them to AE's islands would make sense

[maiden sundial]

Kinda an ARK esk thing.

[river ocean]

Actually I can answer your question

Why not?

[acoustic osprey]

Why damage the product

I'd understand wanting to "test" them

But if you're going to test a product, you'd want more of a controlled environment

and not "Hunger Games"

But, it could just be revolving around AE and their "God-like Ego" with naming everything to Greek Mythos

[river ocean]

Well, like... why not test the object and, plus, take back control of the island with the help of the object?

You are killing two birds with one stone this way.

[icy onyx]

Me, a Gen 2 human being placed on an island full of dinosaurs and strains cause some scientist had a bet with his buddy on how long I'd last

[river ocean]

[icy onyx]

[acoustic osprey]

But if you're going to test a product, you'd want more of a controlled environment

But

It's a bit of an iffy topic

As we do need to know the extent of AE's islands situation

And what Gen 2 are explicitly made for

and if they're made for the same reason Gen 1s were made

[smoky siren]

what does the morse code say in the audio by the structures in evrima?

[acoustic osprey]

SOS and B

[smoky siren]

alright thank u

[acoustic osprey]

no worries

[maiden sundial]

So SOSB?

[acoustic osprey]

No no
there's a good pause between the two

[maiden sundial]

So its an sos with a reply of b

[acoustic osprey]

Or by the same person.
Yes.

[rigid seal]

Hello lightclaw

[pseudo fable]

This so far is my favorite sentence.

[icy onyx]

[icy onyx]

Could the avaries/domes be considered a option for a controlled environment used by AE.

Unless theyre made purely for specific ceatures needs, it'd be a good way to have different biomes for tests without requiring facilities around the world

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/bKT3q.gif

[acoustic osprey]

Haha

Good good

[acoustic osprey]

Honestly, yes.
Especially for their earlier projects when they were likely more active on their islands.

Looking at the drone quetz art in the quetz dossier

But for Gen 2 themselves? Maybe

This depends on when they were made though

If Gen 2s were made quite some time after? Then no, because they aren't limited to just the aviaries

Made during but AE deems them ready to look out for the whole island? Sure- that being, I don't know what they're even made for yet

[icy onyx]

Would be a good way to test how things like strains react/handle various obstacles and environments. If you have something like a Hyper Rex and it suffers in the cold then clearly it has some flaws that could be worked out. Or at the very least presents weaknesses to look out for

[acoustic osprey]

100%

I believe one of them could be the "botany" section honestly

[icy onyx]

Ohhh that's a good point. A greenhouse of sorts

[acoustic osprey]

I mean, the aviaries are literally giant green houses.

just domed

[icy onyx]

Dondi is confusing

I love it

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[icy onyx]

A big question I've been having is how recent AE's activity on Gateway is. From what I've seen from both what the devs gave and what we saw in the preview the structures dont exactly look abandoned for years. So that calls into question on if AE is still fully operational on the island, semi operational or just recently gone.

[bold crater]

Makes me wonder if something could rely on certain environments in them so even if it could easily break out, it can't or else it'd struggle to survive.

[acoustic osprey]

That depends

there isn't much weathering, as of yet

likely either:

1. Preview build
2. No weathering on purpose

[icy onyx]

True true, guess that'll be revealed once the full map is released

[acoustic osprey]

It is definitely abandoned, but how recent? If it was on purpose (no weathering) then it might allude to AE leaving more recently

[icy onyx]

Makes you wonder what or who caused them to abandon it in the first place, what the motives were and if we'll have to find out on our own.

I'm sure it was a strain or special strain that caused it but there's always the chance for a sabatoge arc

[acoustic osprey]

Welp, there are destroyed aspects in the Hyper Fences

Same from an older devblog

So it seems like they're still going with that

[tender dock]

I wonder if the weather will cause dinosaurs to migrate/map changes in the future.
Like it hasnt rained in a while this river has a drought,
It overly rained this river flowed everything downstream before drying up.
Some rain caused mini oasis's to happen
and sometimes I sit in the shower with my eyes closed letting the rain hit my back like im a Stego only 500 years ago (yes dinosaurs existed 500 years ago we were lied to scientists just covered it up to make their job sound cooler)

[icy onyx]

As a studying student paleontologist I can confirm. Absolutely made up 100% no cap. We're cool trust me

[tender dock]

Almost made me believe dinosaurs were real for a second

[icy onyx]

We yeeted troodon out of existence to hide our secret. The quetz is next in line

But uh, on the subject of weather, I wonder if AE has any control over it

[tender dock]

nah the quetz was real. (my dad told me a story on how he got on one to go to school every morning)

From what I see Lightclaw can make something up and Dondi just says its real

[icy onyx]

Lightclaw is Dondi in disguise

[tender dock]

probably

[acoustic osprey]

I believe Deino might use rain to it's advantage

and floods

IF rain allows Deinos' water drain to slower

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/bob-odenkirk-saul-goodman-better-call-saul-im-sorry-but-have-you-lost-your-mind-are-you-insane-gif-25820724

[tender dock]

I lost my mind when I decided to take a look at the lore

[acoustic osprey]

welcome

[tender dock]

https://tenor.com/view/i-get-it-omg-danny-devito-oh-my-god-gif-15873107

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[icy onyx]

What Isle lore does to a mfer

[neat storm]

they still haven't banned you from here?

https://tenor.com/view/grandpa-abe-exit-confused-bye-bart-gif-7694184

[bold crater]

It should

[acoustic osprey]

Still standing

[icy onyx]

I've noticed the lockers display numbers more than once, what does it mean

[icy onyx]

Employee/unit #'s probably

[acoustic osprey]

likely

be cautious as they can change

Seeing as the "Afterthought" easter egg is getting removed

[icy onyx]

957
23 01
23 04

those number repeat themselves

[acoustic osprey]

Afterthought as well

[hexed flax]

There is no 4

[icy onyx]

im gonna eat broccoli now until you're dead

[hexed flax]

Sus

[livid shard]

What easter egg

[rain violet]

When I see this I feel like I'm looking at the release date of the updates xD

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/990070296549679125/Screen_Shot_2022-06-25_at_11.45.39_am.png

Which isn't gone from Gateway, yet

[acoustic osprey]

At least they write 7 the correct way

[weak finch]

idk if this is a stupid question but: Is the lore from Legacy canon in Evrima?

[bold crater]

I don't think we know for sure, but it might be best to treat it as non canon

Probably

[weak finch]

I havent read lore for evrima yet so, but isnt it just on another island? or an alternate verse

[acoustic osprey]

yes and no

Evrima canon is refurbished Legacy canon
With new, added, and changed aspects

[weak finch]

i knew this sentence would come

[acoustic osprey]

Eg. Legacy has Phoenix International in existence

Evrima? No, Phoenix does not exist

including Magnas

[acoustic osprey]

As they have been, apparently, refurbished into "O"

rid of their Primal Carnage connection

[weak finch]

oh

[acoustic osprey]

aye

Think of Evrima lore as Legacy v2

[weak finch]

i liked the connection but oh well

[acoustic osprey]

It was nice

but I prefer no connection.
Not limited to any creative restrictions

[weak finch]

i think its just an alternative universe unless they say theyre just different isles

[acoustic osprey]

Completely redone

So yes, if you'd call it an "Alternative Isle Universe" sure

[weak finch]

the lore was rewritten?

[acoustic osprey]

A lot has been redone.
There are aspects of Legacy lore that will appear (I presume a lot will)

But Evrima is a new slate for anything

[weak finch]

oh my what have i missed

[acoustic osprey]

So, as an Isle Lore enthusiast, you can read any bits of Legacy lore
But it may or may not help for your understanding of Evrima's lore

[acoustic osprey]

around 2 years worth of small stuff

[weak finch]

is there an Evrima lore summary?

[acoustic osprey]

You can check out my document and HellShade's one in the pinned messages here

mine
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wRF05lnHGo1OQe3ovpZ0PaHolKFNHLxjDaxuGvxhaow/edit?usp=sharing

https://docs.google.com/document/d/102ETakYa1vH0VHC9hs_i_kSuum9aVcuH0G4_CobBPr8/edit
Hellshade

[weak finch]

shouldve cared more abt evrima huh? i just play legacy bc of Allo as soon as my boy is in evrima im switching

[acoustic osprey]

Fair.
Nothing has really happened, so all you're missing is a bit of stuff

[weak finch]

thank you very much

[acoustic osprey]

And that "bit of stuff" is mostly from this discord and not within the game itself

and no worries 👌 Help you have some sort of better understanding

[weak finch]

theories or canon?

[acoustic osprey]

Stuff from Dondi

So more or less canon

I'll be putting out a video on YouTube in a month or two explaining where Evrima lore

because those documents don't explain it the best

[weak finch]

oh thats nice

[acoustic osprey]

Aye, but for the time being I've been stuck in this channel helping people and conjuring theories up with them

Always welcome here for a discussion or if you have a question about a prior "Legacy Lore Question" for Evrima lore

[weak finch]

tis the reason why i like to revisit this chat alot

I thought legacy is "done"

like completely left to die even from lore

i would like an ending to the legacy lore or something like that just to have this feeling of it being finished and not just dropped

[acoustic osprey]

Legacy Lore Question" for Evrima lore

as in, questions about Legacy's lore if it's still relevant in Evrima etc

[acoustic osprey]

Honestly, there was nothing to end to

[weak finch]

yeah ik

[acoustic osprey]

Legacy's lore is pretty like Evrima's lore just a bit more "full"
But it was no where near finished

[weak finch]

still would like to wrap it up yk?

[acoustic osprey]

It'd be nice

I believe Don had a more "finalised" version of Legacy's lore stored.
Or that might've been with Primal Carnage- can't remember

Albeit, I presume he has written/thought of Legacy's lore a lot prior to Evrima

[scarlet verge]

Do the Apollo files and the videos shared by "Blank" have anything to do with the lore?

They're made to look like they're from surveillance or video cameras

[acoustic osprey]

no

Our project the Apollo Files is just fan stuff

the only ever "official" lore will be posted by the developers or the official channel itself

or a lore summarisation by an unofficial channel, if the info is true

[scarlet verge]

Ah that makes sense. I didn't know if there was something at those locations if you went to them

They were posted by a Content Creator so I didn't know if that role was one of the official ones

[acoustic osprey]

only morse code tracks

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah, the project is just content creator fan stuff
Nothing official unless stated so

[scarlet verge]

What are the morse code tracks?

I've seen you mention it a few times

[acoustic osprey]

all they say is "SOS" and "B"
You might be able to find them on Stev's channel

[scarlet verge]

Ok I'll check it out. Thanks!

[acoustic osprey]

no worries

[livid shard]

Oh lol

[acoustic osprey]

aye lol

[neat storm]

You have to answer with: Good question! Who knows?

😏

INCOMING TRANSMISSION FROM UNKNOWN SOURCE
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCyWP0gRH05Mn1mVCYnDwncw/community?lb=UgkxC9mG8FPrdQzgaETBgSAJer9skRsF5XVk

[icy onyx]

[toxic zinc]

? Interesting

[severe raft]

[icy onyx]

can't wait!

[oblique surge]

@glacial oyster here ya go

[glacial oyster]

i thank god is that pinned too?

oh it is lets go

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

both of the two docs should be

[icy onyx]

NO LORE.

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/i-really-hate-that-man-annoyed-hate-him-upset-hurt-feelings-gif-16077050

[cinder atlas]

Something ever needs to be pinned again or whatever, let me know.

[acoustic osprey]

Sure thing 👌
I think maybe the fixed version of the two ripped papers? But for now, I think we're honestly fine

[cinder atlas]

There you go.

[acoustic osprey]

ah, thanks

does make it a whole lot easier now

[craggy ice]

#lore: I'm ganna take a wild stab. These locations with dinosaurs popping up are related to a time anomaly that has been researched for many years by humans. Errant-291 was a human from another time period associated with the research that wound up in a separate time but still associated with the project. The eyeless are humans from far in the future that have evolved (possibly because of some cataclysmic event) into a different species and have begun to show up around the anomalies. Tribal humans are from another time as well.

basically like the show Primeval but much better

Btw, I haven't read any speculation so if it overlaps with someone else's it's completely coincidental

[acoustic osprey]

Chronos Engineering

[craggy ice]

Evolution/Devolution via time altering tech on living creatures?

[acoustic osprey]

I say less so about time

more so about "health/medicine"

There is a lot of meaning to words in The Isle
One being Apollo's name "Apollo"

[craggy ice]

@acoustic osprey read your document. Are strains confirmed for phase 3? Just curious how much of the lore is making it's way into the current version

[acoustic osprey]

I wouldn't say "Phase three"

phase three is just a thing to show development, as far as we know

But we know strains are coming back

[craggy ice]

got it

[craggy ice]

Question: Why would an organization focus on altering dinosaur DNA if they have already brought dinos back to life? Wouldn't that act in itself be an achievement. Unless the dinosaurs provided a legal safety zone for experimentation through big pharma.

[acoustic osprey]

Well, sounds like a mixture of ego and mission, plus actual laws

Bring back dinosaurs from the dead? Ego booster, you have the power of God

Would they be counted as actual animals as they're just a bunch of synthetically made creatures? Depends, but I presume actual testing on them (as lab rats, there is an actual name which I forgot)

Would be more than welcome to

[craggy ice]

Reading about the "replicator", sounds like some type of ancient relic ala the forest.

Could the story go beyond science...?

[craggy ice]

Okay, I read through *most of the documentation. Definitely getting some Lost/Stalker vibes here. I think there is more to this than just science and dinosaurs. Something bigger seems to be happening. Greek mythology references seem to indicate perhaps some supernatural happenings. References to resurrection, going through a transformation, Olympus = realm of the gods, Hades = land of the dead. Could the minds of the dead be injected into the living (dinosaurs)? Some type of system is tracking the dinos (user GUI). Perhaps the player dino select is one of the biggest clues? How could each living thing be tracked, even if it was born from other dinos?

[crisp raven]

veerus

[acoustic osprey]

Honestly, I was thinking about it

But I do want to say, your theory is quite avant garde
And if it's something like that, I wouldn't hate it

[acoustic osprey]

Could the minds of the dead be injected into the living

This could, honestly, be a reason to why Gen 1s and 2s were made

loosely

[craggy ice]

Would make sense why there is a 'cultish' feel to some of the messages

[acoustic osprey]

Are you referring to the old Olympus Transmitter messages?

[craggy ice]

from twitter

[acoustic osprey]

Gone

[craggy ice]

not part of lore anymore?

[acoustic osprey]

Legacy canon.
I presume you're looking at HellShade's doc on it?

[acoustic osprey]

Aye.
Those transmissions are gone

[craggy ice]

yes

[craggy ice]

Correct, but are they erased from cannon, or just gone?

[acoustic osprey]

Erased from Evrima canon

But could make a return.

But hasn't yet

As anything, besides Primal Carnage stuff, can return

[acoustic osprey]

However, not with dinosaurus

but with Gen 1s/2s

AE could be making them for military reasons
Likely selling to a or multiple parties

Or, AE is making them for "to create the perfect human!"

Which is basically means money

You don't just make the "perfect" humanoid body (Gen 2s) and not capitalise on it

[neat storm]

You have been hacked

[craggy ice]

so your doc is most current then...

[acoustic osprey]

My doc only includes stuff which is official confirmed for Evrima lore

[craggy ice]

got it

[acoustic osprey]

But HellShade's one is an archive of all past and current lore in The Isle

but my doc can include stuff which is no longer canon if Don changes stuff

which I'll try and fix if and whenever that occurs

[zinc marsh]

I thought dondi made an announcement that the primal carnage stuff was happening

I might be wrong though

[pure oar]

lore of the isle - An island found with living specices on it, big enough to be a whole country first people who discovered the island stepping foot were killed, after sturctures and cameras were built on the dangerous island, to see dinosaurs with cameras. They forever forbid the human race ever flying to shore on that island again (my lore story for it)

Dinosaurs still alive, Humans afraid of how much overpopulated the island.

[strange shell]

Isle dinos were made by humans

[pure oar]

ik just thats my story for it

Its a alternate lore

[strange shell]

so a fanfic ?

[pure oar]

yes

[pure oar]

my theroy is prob failed jurrasjc park?

[craggy ice]

@acoustic osprey Just to be clear, the replicator is current lore correct?

[light flare]

nah AE is what would happen if INGEN were competent and not staffed by morons

[acoustic osprey]

Not happening

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[bold crater]

Speaking of Replicator, I am still wondering what the heck Dondi meant when he mentioned "Replicator Observation" as a mechanic. Not just in-game, but in general. Why and especially how would it watch you Where is it even watching you from? And if it can watch you, what else can it do to you remotely? Would tracking implants from non-nested assets have any effect on this observation + other potential things? Would that mean nested assets are essentially "free" in a way?

So many questions

[zinc marsh]

Sad

[acoustic osprey]

She watches

[bold crater]

https://tenor.com/view/terminator-robot-eye-moving-gif-25516272

does she even have physical e y e s

[acoustic osprey]

Maybe

Honestly depends

It could be an "Odin's Eye's" situation

Not birds, but more so Echidna and others

[bold crater]

Hope it has a physical form in general honestly. I could understand pure program, but in some cases, giving a face to something scary can actually help ;o;

[bold crater]

True.....very clever point 😮

[acoustic osprey]

Maybe

[bold crater]

Of course I just default to thinking of some GLaDOS-esque form I mean she's creepy, imagine something like her but uh...."darker". I guess 😮

Except this time, no cake ;c

it wasn't a lie

[acoustic osprey]

I do say not being able to see the face of something that is perceived as scary can be unsettling and create a sense of uncertainty, as we may not know what to expect.

But, having a face for her would be interesting

[bold crater]

Yeah, giving something scary a face can often ruin it. But (at least to me), with something mysterious like the Replicator, I'd feel more unsettled knowing what it is than not. Otherwise, it feels more like when someone tells you "dude trust me this thing is gonna be EPIC" but it never actually happens so you just don't believe it. Though again, it can backfire sometimes so we'll see

Could pull an Ultron and give her multiple forms

[acoustic osprey]

I'd like a build-up, if they want to show a face/body

[bold crater]

Show me

e y e

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[bold crater]

That'd actually be kinda neat if she had multiple bodies as an analog for "evolving". Get more and more perfect.

But I don't know if that'd fit with her character (if she has any)

[acoustic osprey]

Maybe, we just need to know more about intentions in general and her character

[bold crater]

Indeed. All I remember is something about her having a big ego, but that was aaages ago.

[acoustic osprey]

aye

[acoustic osprey]

How many versions of "AE" can we get!!

[rustic urchin]

u331

lore!

[acoustic osprey]

yes!

but man, AE can't keep a consistent design for their "AE"

[acoustic osprey]

Albeit, I do like this variant of the logo

[rustic halo]

I like the one on the wooden crate

[icy onyx]

the electronics too

[acoustic osprey]

aye

[winter rivet]

When are devs back from vacation?

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-discussion

but hopefully before the end of the month

[outer verge]

Its probably an indication of time. Most company logos change overtime a lot. Firefox for example has changed their logo quite often

[acoustic osprey]

maybe

[outer verge]

To me it makes perfect sense at least. You don't build as extensive facility as AE headquarters if you are just going to dip out in a few years. Would make sense that the different logos would make their appearance in places such as storages where items could be stored for several years at a time.

[acoustic osprey]

Depends

We don't know how long they were active prior
How long AE have been on the islands recently

[outer verge]

All the sings would seem to point out it has been a while.

[acoustic osprey]

yes

we just lack the how long to it all

[icy onyx]

Sorry for a question, i stayed at the isle from 2015, but have they confirmed the presence of cannibals in the game?

[acoustic osprey]

I presume you are now talking about "The Eyeless"

[nocturne cosmos]

They are in fact still around I do believe

[acoustic osprey]

hold on, getting something on it

seeing if it could apply

[nocturne cosmos]

I think a bunch of stuff is still waiting to be “confirmed” tbh

[icy onyx]

Oh are they called that? I remembered them by another name.

[nocturne cosmos]

Yeah names got changed up

[acoustic osprey]

Aye, used to be Cannibals
but to what Hexa said, pretty much

Cannibals = Tribals
Eyeless (no official known name yet) = Not Cannibals

but they could be cannibalistic in nature
and could be related to the Tribals

[icy onyx]

I'm just curious how I'm going to justify them and how they're going to implement them, I really can't quite find the context

[acoustic osprey]

Likely through the use of sacrificing as Tribals?

Maybe.
But we know the actual "Name" for the Eyeless is directly linked with how to get them/what they do

I can't remember the quote exactly from Don, so I'm paraphrasing the end part there

#isle-discussion message

I'm a very sad person

I did just go through 10 months worth of Dondi Embeds for this

Whether or not this has any merit held to it, I don't know

Eyeless for Evrima lore? Maybe until explicitly said so

[cyan loom]

Maybe these were humans trying to become like dinosaurs and it backfired

[rapid chasm]

Maybe, the logos are like that for simplicity, It costs more to do a custom picture on fabric than it costs to do the words "AE".

[acoustic osprey]

So you're telling me, they're just your average company cutting corners

[rapid chasm]

yeah

basically you have a 32 million dollar dinosaur program

or you can spend a few million printing a logo onto fabric which will fall off in a month

or you can invest in the dinosaur program

[acoustic osprey]

Damn these guys! Wanting to help the world and they cut corners with their logo!

[light flare]

It ain't cannibalism if you're not the same species anymore

[strange shell]

I mean, designing a logo that is just two letters combined can be done with a few hundred dollars
Maybe even for free if someone at AE knows some graphic design
And then printing it costs basically nothing
It would actually cost more to have several logos
So I don't think money is an answer

[acoustic osprey]

Was going to say!

[strange shell]

I think it's either been overlooked by the devs, either there are several branches of AE with different logos, either the company is very old and changed logos a few times during the production of these items

[acoustic osprey]

Albeit, I'm just going to say that the Afterthought easter egg is still there and some text stuff on the sites aren't final

[acoustic osprey]

This one is understandable with being "AE"
but the rest? 🤷‍♂️

[strange shell]

Update 331 ?

[acoustic osprey]

Visual must be telling that The Isle Guns is in Update 331!!

Do want to know how AE codes their stuff

[strange shell]

Most likely

[acoustic osprey]

291's incident summary is an incident report

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQIf0zpUoC4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URwssUPgv3w
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QhArvxsaNO8
https://youtu.be/ef-rjHbpANM

[strange shell]

Woah woah I'm not decoding things now

I'll wait for June lore drop

[acoustic osprey]

No decoding

Just I'm curious

291's "video" cam footage is marked as "291-A"

[strange shell]

Camera label, most likely

[acoustic osprey]

What I'm curious is, how they actually code their encode what is which

291's video log is "291-a" but

Beipi's incident report log is S2_9543

obviously, you might say, it's because it is a "Trail Cam Observation'

but the Pachy footage labels the 4 digit code with the prefix "Incident Report" then "S2.6143"

||Hat tip to Seiza with the Camera HUD in the pachy video. However, it should've been "T8.0" and not "F8.0" for the aperture stop label, unless the camera was a photography camera.||

But again, that could be due to camera being called "6143"

Strange name but sure, till you see the Cerato footage

[strange shell]

Different naming conventions based on what island the cameras have been set on ?

[acoustic osprey]

Which refers to the specific camera as "TRAIL_CAM_00153"
then a letterbar at the bottom has the temp. then "S2_6394" followed by the time and cam number "00153"

[strange shell]

Or different camera types ?
Maybe it's a time span thing again
Like their coding scheme has changed over 40 years

[acoustic osprey]

Could be

or just "291-A" is just the casefile classification name for the "Incident Report" video log(s?)
with "S2-####" being the individual video within the log

That depending on what you call a "Video Log"

Man this is a pointless thing to think about

[strange shell]

Yeah I just woke up I'm not in the mood to think about this

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[tender shard]

Saying,tribals(Gen 1) aren't native inhabitants?

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

Well, they're likely more akin to the islands than Gen 2s (Humans)

but yeah, they're not naturally native

[tender shard]

but why? Won't they cause more problems

[acoustic osprey]

Made by AE themselves

For some sort of experiment to which we lack information on

[strange shell]

Is there anything we don't lack information on ?

[acoustic osprey]

Uh uh, uh. Ah, uh uh. Ah.

We lack a lot of information on the "Whys and Hows"

[tender shard]

AE after creating Gen 1:

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[light flare]

I love how it stands up on its legs, like "look at me, I am the human now"

[cold cobalt]

Guys i just found a closed cave with lava sound on spiro !!!!

[toxic zinc]

Oh wow

[toxic zinc]

Imma yoink those co’ords

[flint bolt]

That's just the bubble cave..

[acoustic osprey]

It's tar

[runic shuttle]

I haven't seen / heard of any tar in Gateway, I wonder if it's a PoI and got removed or if there are just none o:

[fringe marsh]

I'm mostly here as RabittHorn found interest in this theory or head-cannon, this theory in question being one I've humored every now and again in general chat. The theory being that Apollo Engineering didn't make the dinosaurs. (or the majority of them at least) Hear me out.

In any piece of media where humans bring back dinosaurs, I have to ask the age-old question, "why?" I mean, what benefits AE (or anyone really) by creating dinosaurs? I've heard theories that AE created dinosaurs in order to trust drugs on them but like... what? Doubt they'd get DINOSAURS (and various species of dinosaur) for that. You can illegally test drugs on like, rats n crap- you probably don't need to resurrect an extinct clade of the animal kingdom. I'm yet to find a really plausible or realistic reason for AE to want to make dinosaurs... so what if they didn't make them at all?

In my very cool theory, (even though I lack much evidence) the timeline is something like this: AE wants to make humans more resilient and powerful. Perfect humanity if they can. This backfires of course and we tribals/cannibals, the orcish looking fellas. Now the cannibals are unlikely to be very friendly, given their name and so perhaps AE has difficulties controlling them. AE's solution to this is to create the neurotrenic mastermind, (who will be called "NM" from here on out) Now, for some reason this also backfires and the NM rallies the tribals against AE. Maybe NM was an employee at AE who was forced to be transformed into the NM and now wants revenge? Maybe they're just violent? I dunno, but whatever happens in this timeline the NM uses/helps the tribals fight AE and end up winning, and getting control over the replicator.

Now we don't know exactly what the replicator is to be honest, but I'm willing to bet (no I'm not) that the replicator is used to create stuff. The NM, perhaps disgusted by the atrocities of humanity (though, more accurately, the atrocities of AE) decides to use the replicator to

try and revert the island to a previous, more primordial state- to a state untouched by humanity. One that's more wild.

To do this, the NM has the replicator start mass producing the prehistoric fauna on the island. This
would assist in fighting AE due to the dangerousness of the dinosaurs.

||(Least insane Islecorder)||

[acoustic osprey]

Probably has

[acoustic osprey]

No laws against making dinosaurs and using them as GMMs

[fringe marsh]

GMMS?

[acoustic osprey]

Lab rats

[fringe marsh]

Right but like, is hiring a lawyer or two more expensive than resurrecting dinosaurs?

And why make multiple species of dinosaur.

[acoustic osprey]

You have to ability to play god

Do you make dinosaur

Or a monkey

[fringe marsh]

Well then it's for fun, not for experimentation.

[runic shuttle]

hm o:

[acoustic osprey]

Yet again.
I do believe AE made the Dinos

At least, AE used the Replicator to do so

being that she is an AI

she is either man-made AI or alien-made

so far, there is nothing alien yet. So we can't place our bets that she is a third party, making dinos

[strange shell]

Replicator is a she ?

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[strange shell]

This has a lot of lore implications

[gentle vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/portal-glados-dangerous-mute-lunatic-gif-3460259

[acoustic osprey]

One of my guessing theories is that they're using the Replicator herself to "Replicate" whatever genetic code AE is typing up

Seeing as a lot of things in The Isle with specific names have a meaning, I'm going to presume the "Replicator" isn't a creator of things, but a replicator of things

[blazing goblet]

Is there any herbivorous dinosaur in which one of its diets is grazing? I mean eat grass

[runic shuttle]

not that I know o:

[sterile fossil]

Hello

[stuck flame]

..the isle have lore..oh wow..this going to be fun

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/simpson-gif-25340727

[stuck flame]

so from what I understand there is a machine that makes dinosaurs or monitors them.. then everything went south I think?

I am confused asf

[acoustic osprey]

No

We don't know how/who made the dinosaurs.
Best guess is AE

with or without The Replicator

likely their downfall started when they made strains

and/or Gen 1 (Tribals)

[stuck flame]

Yeah i heard AE is behind most of the game stuff but..why?..why of all things dinosaurs lol

[acoustic osprey]

Who knows why AE explicitly made Dinos

best guess is legal matter and playing God

One might assume the dinos are by AE.
Within the Pachy observ. video, labels the only 4 pachys we seen on screen as

"SUBJECT_PC_25792/25899/27100/34090"
Labelling them as subjects.

But we need better confirmation

[stuck flame]

What about the magnos types?

[acoustic osprey]

Gone

Gone with Primal Carnage connection to the game

[stuck flame]

Ahh so theres not cannon anymore

Yeah i think its better this way

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[stuck flame]

But wheres all the staff?..the people..the facillities..why left all behind? Since they clearly have tech enough to kill some dinos with ease

[acoustic osprey]

Gone

I don't presume they want to kill the dinos

They seem to be assets of AE

not worth killing your own stuff

[stuck flame]

Assets?

[acoustic osprey]

the dinos being, if true, made/owned by AE

[stuck flame]

Which no one know its true by now lol

What even is the replicator

[sharp knoll]

AI Machine who replicates life

[acoustic osprey]

replicates life

https://tenor.com/view/smart-thinking-thoughts-think-ponder-gif-7713620

[sharp knoll]

My bad

[stuck flame]

Replicates life uh..

Interesting