isle-lore-theories

[acoustic osprey]

I doubt Don wants to go another route

[outer verge]

Again, we are only using greek and latin words. Religion tends to have common themes so I think it would be stupid to close so many doors because "language"

And you have to admit that the similarity is striking

Why not observe the possible reasons why?

Its not like there is anything better to do if one insists on spending his days scrolling trough TI lore

[opal arrow]

[chrome acorn]

it’s not really meant to be an accurate map but the shape could mean something ig

[acoustic osprey]

With greater meaning behind them.
I'm excluding both Evrima being a literal worded reference and Spiro being of latin phrase "Dum spiro, spero"

The Isle has had a very large connected and reflected use of Greek Mythos- Yes, it does not includes Greek Mythos' motifs, as this is not the story (to what we know) of the Greek God Family

But there are familiarities and uses of Greek Titles/Names within The Isle.
Such examples are the naming schemes used for the older creations like Echidna, Colossus and places like Tartarus.

Even now within P3, we see AE's naming scheme.

I'd honestly like to see the cruel reality when man tries to become God. Holding power easily corrupts, which is a fun motif. But yeah, Greek mythos has always played a big part of Isle- even more so in Legacy, due to having a larger aspect of lore compared to Evrima right now

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah, just a fun little Abstract (Network Theory) graph

[outer verge]

Exactly. Its spesifically drawn in that shape

[acoustic osprey]

Which makes me wonder about the broken lines

I wonder if I'm allowed to talk about the older version I had

[outer verge]

Why wouldnt you? It may be no longer relevant but go ahead if you feel like it.

[acoustic osprey]

I do say it's possible that the broken lines, adjacent to network theory, that it's indicating going down in elevation

[acoustic osprey]

the shape of the network system was quite different

So I don't believe it's anything but a nod to the Tree of Life

[outer verge]

I would just like to point out that basically every single word has a history and a deeper meaning if you go in and observe its etymological past. I find this stuff very fascinating

[acoustic osprey]

Every English word, painfully

[outer verge]

If you say so, ill just agree to disagree for now

[acoustic osprey]

But, when it comes down to medicine and anything in science.
They're actually useful

[outer verge]

Im more so thinking about finish and greek since those im more familiar with

[acoustic osprey]

Why? Albeit the version was not finalised but was certainly quite new.
Especially since the version in P3 has alterations to the actual Tree of Life, I see of it more as a Nod

[opal arrow]

i stare up at the monstrous amalgamation of human and dinosaur flesh that i have created, watching it writhe and heave before me

“mother… is that you…? have i… have i brought you back?”

[outer verge]

I just think it has more of a meaning

[acoustic osprey]

Unless we get more things closer to Jewish or any other abrahamic religion

[outer verge]

We'll see, we dont exactly have much evrima lore to go off of as of rn

[acoustic osprey]

We have a bit
But it doesn't make much sense honestly, still on the same stance as when it first arrived in P3. The tree connects to the centre to a more centre piece.
Whereas in P3, it all connects to a higher platform (Olympus CC)

However, I do wonder how far or close these different "places" are
If it's just one facility abstract or a whole island/s abstract

[outer verge]

They could cover the entire island honestly. As seen above the map only gives rough guide to what is connected to where and in what order

[acoustic osprey]

And likely connected to the GUTS, as alluded

[outer verge]

Could even span multiple islands for all we know

Maybe the connections are the GUTS

Would make sense

What does the G stand for? General? Ive forgotten

[acoustic osprey]

I'm doubting less so multiple islands. But maybe

Lodge/Rec for G

[outer verge]

Yeah I dont think its likely either

[opal arrow]

bangs on table more islands!

[outer verge]

Oh not on the map, in the acronym GUTS

[acoustic osprey]

I'm placing my bets on that the broken lines are routes to Tartarus

Just hope to see more of stuff like this.
And/or another abstract about the island itself

[acoustic osprey]

Generic Underground Transport System, unofficially by Don

[outer verge]

Ah aight

[acoustic osprey]

Said he'll never reveal the name.
But I believe he doesn't know, he might just like the name lol

It being the old "cave name" in Spiro

[outer verge]

Guts sounds ominous and quirky so why not keep it

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

Also easy to say and write

[outer verge]

Yes

I do think it stands for something but if the notion of it being underground becomes restrictive it should be assumed that its just the name of something

[acoustic osprey]

oh, you have not seen the tunnels?

[outer verge]

Ive seen some images but no

And that was while ago

[acoustic osprey]

The monorail system is part (or is) of the GUTS.
You can just notice the tunnel in the Diablo pic in P3

and

Albeit just concept art.
Here's an approximate concept art

Likely wont be the final size, or the final look of the tunnels.
But GUTS tunnel 🥂

[outer verge]

Oh right yeah im aware of this I was just confused for a moment

[acoustic osprey]

A variation

[acoustic osprey]

👌

[outer verge]

Looks better imo

[acoustic osprey]

I do hope it keeps the size.
You could just imagine the stuff/things they transport through it

[outer verge]

You could fit a 2 story train down there by the looks of it

Maybe the perspective is bit misleading tho

Oh nvm I only now noticed the figure

[acoustic osprey]

but Dons reaction made me a bit weary lol

[outer verge]

Okay well as entertaining as this has been I really gtg now

[acoustic osprey]

ciao

[opal arrow]

if that does end up being the actual scale of the tunnel… makes me rethink just how big of an operation this is.

[acoustic osprey]

Colossal, one might say

lol

[open pewter]

Why are there so many abandoned islands

We’re the Dino’s too much for them?

Like,, why have Dino’s on multiple islands just to abandon them and not just keep watch over one island

[woeful chasm]

There are more than just dinosaurs in THESE jungles

[open pewter]

True that

Along with the loading screen and the dots, are those all bases or something more? I forgot

[acoustic osprey]

Take the loading screens with a grain of salt, as they're pretty much Legacy loading screens

[open pewter]

Does it have any particular meaning that’s up to date with the current lore

[acoustic osprey]

for the dots/loading screens?

[open pewter]

Yeah

[acoustic osprey]

Not anything yet

[opal arrow]

what do we know so far about dino-tribal interaction? 🦕👣

[acoustic osprey]

Tribals sacrifice things, likely dinos and/or their brethren

But not themselves.

But proper dino-tribal interactions? Likely that Tribals uses dinos as slaves.
But, not sure if that's still going to be a thing or not

[opal arrow]

reenacts indiana jones’ temple scene but with a teno Kali Ma!

now that you’ve mentioned ritual sacrifice, i’m thinking about the whole cult theme and perhaps another reason why they chose this specific island.

[opal arrow]

like Dinotopia but R rated 😂

[icy onyx]

You know what I was thinking of?

There are some pathogens (specially parasites like Toxoplasma) that make their host extremely reckless to danger

So these parasite hosts become totally indifferent to dangerous situations, and they ignore their own predators

I’m not sure how, but parasites alter brain biochem causing that effect

Is the replicator an entity?

Maybe that relates a bit to the whole Replicator thing and Gen 1’s

Making them susceptible to certain behaviors when being affected by a parasite

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401480573471948821/925480152450859028/triatominae_matriarch__by_tapwing_dbsm8qd-pre.png

[outer verge]

I just had a stroke trying to decipher what your point is

[quartz sundial]

bad parasite make host behavior change

[rustic urchin]

Isn’t that what rabies is as well?

Like a virus that effects behavior and makes things more aggresive

[quartz sundial]

Also afraid of water for some reason I think

[outer verge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfjDgnpDMvM

[quartz sundial]

🥺

[outer verge]

Reccomend giving it a watch if youre interested

[sand seal]

Rabies is a really cool virus that once you show symptoms, then you’re fucked.

[teal plover]

very fun 10 out of 10 would recommend

[acoustic osprey]

All we can guess is that "A voice" and "AI"

Does it have a body?
Who knows

[stuck steeple]

What is that

[chrome acorn]

unofficial art from tapwing

of her version of the “matriarch”

[stuck steeple]

'-'

[icy onyx]

ah! so maybe it does have something to do with it transmitting a parasite

some subfamilies of the bug family Reduviidae (picture above) transmit *Trypanosoma cruzi *

[quartz sundial]

holy

its real

[open pewter]

My god it exists

It’s kinda cute too tho

[quartz sundial]

😨

[open pewter]

It looks like squidward

[short falcon]

If squidward and larry the lobster had a baby

[weary sundial]

What is dis black magic

[oblique surge]

Bicho barbeiro!!!

[acoustic osprey]

Matriarch !?

[bronze hare]

Anyone knows if the cannibal (I know he’s not called that anymore) is still gonna exist in game, like lore wise

[maiden sundial]

I think.

[bronze hare]

I hope I Lob themb

[acoustic osprey]

I presume you mean Eyeless

Cannibals are Tribals

[stuck steeple]

So well there be robotics like prostatics for humans?

[acoustic osprey]

only "robot" we know of is Drone Quetz

But I honestly don't think there will be proper prosthetics.
Seeing as things, such as strains, exist

But that depends

[stuck steeple]

Wait that's really I robot I thought. They where mind controlling it

[acoustic osprey]

More so a cyborg. But yes, robotic

[stuck steeple]

If they could do that image what they well do to the rest of the dinos

'-' what kind of lore is this

[bronze hare]

I didn’t know we gave them a name or they got a name, interesting, do we know or have any clue if they’re going to be in game?

[modern rover]

one would assume they're going to be in

likely as some kind of adaptation from tribal

[bronze hare]

Alright thank you, I remember hearing somewhere that they’re tribals with strains but idk if it’s true, I just have always loved them since I found them and want to know if they’re probably going in the game

[modern rover]

i dont think dondi ever scrapped them, but they aren't anywhere near a focus

[bronze hare]

Of course, I just hadn’t heard in a while and I know the people very very interested In the lore would probably know

But I genuinely love them they’re so cool and alien I just 😩

Amazing monster design 10/10

[acoustic osprey]

Who knows

And their official name, technically isn't The Eyeless

It's just that we don't know what they're called, yet

[cinder shoal]

The Eyeless is still a great name, they should keep it. ||Unless they find something even better||

[strange shell]

The ||ohmygoditsrunningrighttowardsus||

[mystic rivet]

Last three letters

[bronze hare]

Yea I just didn’t know the community gave them a name yet, Ty tho :D

[acoustic osprey]

no worries

we had to give it something, so we pick with the most obvious one

Literally Eyeless

[acoustic osprey]

Apparently might get something on Wednesday about a Rex
Might

But this sounds intriguing!

[outer verge]

Wednesday as in tomorrow?

[acoustic osprey]

Whenever P3 is, likely

I'm guessing.
Unless Don has localised into Australian terms Which I don't think he has

[rustic nexus]

TOMORROW IS PHASE 3

[open pewter]

Remind me what phase three is again? sorry

[rustic nexus]

Its basically sneak peeks into development

Whether it be the next update

Or something further down the line

[open pewter]

Ahhh thank you

[sonic rampart]

#isle-phase-three

[open pewter]

Thank you!

[acoustic osprey]

Not a theory.
Just a thing.

Wonder if three triangles meant anything on Vega's Map for old Isle.

Maybe it's because analysing books does this to you.
But I wonder if the motif of "Three" means anything

Three "Triangles"/outposts/pinpoints? On the map
Three "places" under "#####" (Tartarus?)

Three Human strains (Strains in-general, excluding "O" as it's counted as Magna- Magnas not really being strains)

[strange shell]

3 is just a good number for literature or storytelling

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

Simple.
Religious routes. So there is an aspect of "Godly" triumph from AE- doesn't have to be connected to Christianity.
But still; Especially with AE literally naming places in their islands named after Greek Gods

what's next, the Aesir?

[strange shell]

Please there are enough gods in greek mythos to not include the aesir in that
Leave them alone

[acoustic osprey]

Next up on Phase Three

Kratos

[strange shell]

The Thor strain

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[strange shell]

Actually Kratos is an actual greek god

[acoustic osprey]

Embodiment of strength

[strange shell]

So I could see that happening

[acoustic osprey]

Albeit, I believe we're getting something on Rex on P3

[acoustic osprey]

@rustic halo

[strange shell]

Magna strain is gone. Say hello to K-rex

[acoustic osprey]

But but O Rex

[strange shell]

Wait it could be interpreted as Korean rex

[acoustic osprey]

oh no

[slow delta]

tisso, hyper, neuro, omni, nova, magna

tisso, hyper and neuro are described as strains and as types-T, H and N

magna isnt a strain but is type M

so not all types are strains but maybe all variants are types

what has strains? bacteria and viruses

but if hypers are made with plant hormones, then you couldnt really use either of them. even plant viruses cant carry that many genes. in conclusion, nothing was concluded

[acoustic osprey]

Magna no
Nova no

but O = Magna

[modern rover]

magnas and novas arent a part of the lore

also does this mean omniraptor is technically, in itself, a strain

[acoustic osprey]

Who knows.
At the very least = A "Strained" variant that is made for medicinal reason

[acoustic osprey]

Sorry no.
"O" not Omni

[modern rover]

ah

[acoustic osprey]

Nothing on what O is yet, besides it being replacing Magnas

but the naming scheme is similar to Magnatyrannus with Omniraptor

[modern rover]

(hopefully with something with a little more gameplay interest)

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[modern rover]

hate magnas stupid "improved hyper"

[acoustic osprey]

It's a bit of a yeah

just a: "Hyper but better, but less powerful but more sustainable"

it makes sense gameplay-wise.
But story-wise, it's a bit 🤷‍♂️

Although I don't have much say to say about Magnas

didn't dislike.
But cool concept

[modern rover]

even gameplay-wise i dislike

it just seems like a copout tbh

why have hyper if you have the improved version, story-wise or gameplay-wise?

[acoustic osprey]

iirc, AE were just bad

compared to the might of Phoenix and their "Variants"

[modern rover]

i like the idea of strains having unique weaknesses, magna never really felt like it had one

its just... better animal

[acoustic osprey]

that's the point

[modern rover]

thats so lame tho imho

its just better elder, better strain, better everything

[acoustic osprey]

it's practically an elder

[modern rover]

there's very little insentive to pick the options that aren't as sustainable as the just, best option

[acoustic osprey]

in reality
You'd pick Magna if you want "Hyper but less powerful but longer playtime"

which is yeah

interesting?

Where in reality, you could just play a Neuro or Tisso
Albeit, their niche isn't around strength

[slow delta]

why not? their connection to pc might be severed but magnas themselves can be repurposed

[acoustic osprey]

They are gone

Confirmed but the don himself
Being replaced by Os

[slow delta]

sadge

[acoustic osprey]

yes

We're not sure what Os are.
Sadly no confirmation if they're "Omnis" or something completely differently named

[modern rover]

I just find it invalidates hypo as a selection tbh.

[acoustic osprey]

not really?

It depends on the power balance.
In reality, Magna is just an elder with the "growing old"

Stronger than your average bear
Weaker than Hypers (albeit, I'm pretty sure it was said somewhere that a H-Rex could fight off a M-Rex equally?)
But more sustainable

Hypers would be the "Short-time = OP God killing machine"
Magnas would be the "Longer play through = Not OP God killing machine/Less OP God killing machine"

problem is.
It's really just Elders that takes their place

Elders are stronger.
They'll probably last as long as an adult before they die.
Or 1/3 or 2/3 of your average adult life

Magnas work if you exclude Elders

Which, in reality, doesn't need to exist (Magnas)
If they'd be kept in the same way as they were

because they're still power-creeping into "Hypers"

[modern rover]

That's a good portion of why I want O-Strain to be something properly unique

[acoustic osprey]

Especially if M-Rex is supposed to be "one on one" with H-Rex

[modern rover]

Because elders take what magna was, but do it better

[acoustic osprey]

Yes.
Nothing as absurd as the Strains.

But still something that isn't "Elder"

Strains supposed to be more failed.
Unless O's are the "New brothers" to strains

Where it's just another piece to fit in.
They just happen to look highly familiar to Magnas 🤷‍♂️

[strange shell]

Unless the magna strain is elder hyper
If you manage to stave hunger for long enough, your body adapts and becomes more sustainable, at the cost of losing strength
Although it doesn't really make much sense

[acoustic osprey]

Please no

Magna strain, assuming you mean O

[rustic halo]

we know that in isle lore, there are many references to greek mythology

Kratos, the one to dismember the entire pantheon (in this context things like the strains, apollo engineering, and the humanoid strains), the literal representation of strength. Kratos in Greek literally translates to power and domination.

There is only one thing in isles lore that can possibly be attributed to this

Allosaurus is truly the end of ends for the “gods” of the isle

[modern rover]

allosaurus represents original sin

the failures of mankind lead to its existence

[strange shell]

Except kratos doesn't kill any god in actual mythology
Not even dure it's a sentient deity

[acoustic osprey]

No send in Kratos Allosaurus

[acoustic osprey]

Just the embodiment of strength

But still more divine than a mortal

But a very very very very minor deity

Who was basically never worshipped

[gentle vessel]

O strain could be what allows for kinda, off shoot mutant forms of base animals

Like, say for example, O dilo,
Gains a long range toxic spit, different venom, and changed looks, but ain’t on strain level power wise

[bold crater]

What if O strains were like a transitioning phase of a regular strain? Like a type O is funky in it's own way but nowhere near the level of the other strains, but has the potential to mutate into either one of em

So a Rex mutating into a Type-H becomes a Type-O first while it transitions

[clever ether]

e

[crisp moon]

if dinos had a intelligence equal to humans XD now i actually wanna know what they would do if they did..... Would their be Trex driving tanks???

[frosty raven]

I could imagine utahs with machine guns wrapped onto their backs lol

[acoustic osprey]

No

[scarlet dawn]

Prove me wrong but I think this game has something to do with aliens, and a disease of sorts that under the right circumstances mutates the body’s of the dinosaurs after becoming eligible, humans come into play when They do something with that disease and try to use it for there own then something happens and that new strain that humans created type N now is a human byproduct of mass destruction on the ecosystem allowing animals to become smarter, as the surviving humans are “infected” with the other strains they become different cannibals, just a very messed up assortment of what I’ve gathered over the years about this game but you guess is as good as mine!

[acoustic osprey]

No aliens

Strains being human made
And Gen 1 (Cannibals/Tribals) being just humans but genetically altered by AE

And the actual humans, Gen 2, being enhanced humans

[scarlet dawn]

I have know idea about anything about lore or “Gen 1” & “Gen 2” so what you said was kinda confusing. But gotta go with the flow.

[bold crater]

I wonder if Gen 2 are like better than a normal human in every way, including psychologically

Not suggesting super intelligence, just like compared to the average human, their cognition would be noticeably better/faster or whatever

Faster reaction times, too

[strange shell]

They can go and kick deinos to death
They have florida men neurones, ofc they have better cognition than normal humans

[icy onyx]

Okay so…

The question would be, how much of a difference in genetic material would it take to make a more intelligent average human? I don’t think it would take that much.

So… the way I see it is there is no way that there are no differences in cognition between humans and them (Gen 1’s & 2’s)

I make the distinction “humans and them” considering Dondi himself said that they’re just naturally non-human

[acoustic osprey]

Excluding Gen 1

As they seemed to have, in old transmissions, to have a decaying cognition

Per batch

Cycle
Which is likely the same for Gen 1s in Evrima

Don't forget this is AE playing God here

[icy onyx]

Yeah that’s why I said differences in cognition

Not like necessarily improvements

My guess is that the decaying cognition of Gen 1’s was totally deliberate

[acoustic osprey]

Ah lol misread

English language

Tricky sentence

[gentle vessel]

I see the difference in cognition only being like s

Gen 2’s ain’t as altered, maybe just faster synapses for reactions but other than that just, a peak normal human

[meager junco]

Alien like strains but not actual aliens

[zinc marsh]

Yeah I think the hoomans made strains to try and improve on the stronger species

Because Apollo is trying to make the ultimate life form… no idea why though

[scarlet dawn]

Kars

How are the Dino’s on the island still alive? Mad by something or just survivors?

[zinc marsh]

Idk

Reproduction nobody ever said they were the original

[light flare]

The biotech corporation in control of the islands built a machine called the Replicator that can create living things. As far as I'm aware everything playable was "replicated" by it.

[acoustic osprey]

They are made explicitly to survive

[acoustic osprey]

Yes and no
We can, believe, that maybe the Replicator is used to create/replicate Dinos and others

I don't think she explicitly creates things. Unless she has been given a pre-made "script/blueprint" I presume

Being called The Replicator, obviously

But we're yet to properly know

yet

[slow delta]

what if it replicates the human souls going into the dinos duh duh duuuh

[nova tinsel]

the more lore i learn about the isle, the more it reminds me of Lost

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/bryan-cranston-death-stare-walter-white-gif-26199691

[icy onyx]

Zann is the main character

[acoustic osprey]

wow thanks

I thought Dalt was

[icy onyx]

no, it’s Zann

[acoustic osprey]

woah

[acoustic osprey]

Can I be the antagonist?

[icy onyx]

@regal locust do you remember this? Do you have a message link?

[regal locust]

It’s just the file name for a neat lighting change teaser type of thing.

Nothin that deep

Wait, this isn’t where I am.

[icy onyx]

I know I know

I just can’t fund the link

[regal locust]

Lemme see if I can grab it for you

[icy onyx]

[acoustic osprey]

thanks

[bold crater]

I wonder if we'll ever encounter the Replicator in some manner

Or perhaps we could at least hear it in audio logs perhaps

Audio logs are awesome

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[regal locust]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/979041925619396629/1032429932292358154/ZannIsTheMainCharacter.jpg

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[bold crater]

Man, now I gotta block my doors

[regal locust]

Here’s the link, but again, It’s not a lore thing. It’s just a haha funny.

[acoustic osprey]

Zann is the main character

Zann, can I be comedic relief?

[bold crater]

[regal locust]

Comedic relief is filled in by another buddypal of mine, go be evil.

Become the antagonist.

Trust me, it’s a lot more fun.

[bold crater]

Anti-Hero

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/bryan-cranston-death-stare-walter-white-gif-26199691

[chrome acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-badum-tss-drum-joke-unimpressed-gif-7770998

[acoustic osprey]

Run, you the monkey side-kick?

[chrome acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-kinkytwt-stan-twitter-stan-twitter-memes-monkey-angry-gif-25266657

[acoustic osprey]

very good

[chrome acorn]

o7

[icy onyx]

[surreal cliff]

@acoustic osprey do we know anything about time travel things or is that something not discussed or has no evidence pointing to being something in play in lore

[acoustic osprey]

Nothing about "time travel"

[surreal cliff]

do we have like a "The isle lore for beginners"

[acoustic osprey]

My doc is a kinda

[surreal cliff]

Or is there a good video

[acoustic osprey]

MeatyLock's one is old

[surreal cliff]

Would you mind sharing?

[acoustic osprey]

in pinned messages

but I am writing down a video script

[surreal cliff]

I see

[surreal cliff]

how long will be in the video?

[acoustic osprey]

I'll be including chapters
but however long it'll be, not sure

[surreal cliff]

Two different videos? Or just one big one

[livid shard]

I think we all forgot the mosa in the isle lore

Even if they never said something about it

[acoustic osprey]

depends on how much lol

[surreal cliff]

unaware

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[glossy kernel]

[rustic nexus]

Im not even half way through and im overwhelmed with all this speculation and info

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[rustic nexus]

Yk

I still dont see how gen 2 are supposed to be “perfect” humans

[acoustic osprey]

why not?

[rustic nexus]

I haven’t really seen or heard anything that can put them past a fit marine

[acoustic osprey]

Guess we gotta wait and see more on them

[rustic nexus]

Ye

[acoustic osprey]

but still, yeah

[rustic nexus]

Were there any theories on what the echo is

[acoustic osprey]

Which echo?

Ah, the echo in P3
No

[rustic nexus]

O alr

[icy onyx]

is the colossi reaper and mother still planed

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

Colossus
Reaper
Echidna (Mother of Cannibals)

[icy onyx]

yessssss

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/wrong-gif-10683588

[icy onyx]

i very exited to see all that and how far lore will be by then

[acoustic osprey]

same, lore is good

[icy onyx]

lol its funny because i just realized who u were im watching your stream video rn

[acoustic osprey]

Oh lol haha

I'm trying to properly write a scripted video.
So hopefully that'll hope as well haha

[icy onyx]

yea where they were talking about the monorail system and what the undergrounds of the isle might be like on the stream video and hopefully the video comes out good

[acoustic osprey]

Hopefully

But, I am definitely taking my time on it

so, hopefully, worth it

[icy onyx]

well take yo time of course when it dose drop i will give it a watch

[acoustic osprey]

I really appreciate it!

[icy onyx]

im listing to the things u say about these tunnel systems like how u talk about how big the tunnels and it leads u to think what they are doing in there. Now theory what if Echidna and here children are still down there or Reaper and as a human that could be where you find end game stuff for there play threw but because it leads u down there to the dark tunnels who knows what u might find in the labs or whatever is hidden

[acoustic osprey]

Could be honestly.
If there is no actual "activity" on Spiro and/or Gateway in present times.

Could've easily made it their home

especially if "if you go down" through the Monorails
could be that Tartarus is linked down there

which has been theorised here before.
But just a theory

[icy onyx]

yes exactly and my theory although this leaves the thought of where is Colossus but at least with the queen and reaper u could theories that since the tunnel's have been long forgotten and there has been no activity from them that they have made the labs of Tartarus or whatever is down there there homes

[acoustic osprey]

yeah

[icy onyx]

but do we have any confirmation on if they will be playable or ai

[acoustic osprey]

However, the tunnels are quite big- unless they have been made smaller from the original concepts.
I do think Colossus could fit

[acoustic osprey]

I believe they won't be AI
and might might just be playable

[icy onyx]

that is also true and ok good. If Colossus is in there somewhere and it stays true to the concept then i could see Colossus coming out once in a long wile to eat like a bear but comes out once eats alot then hibernates the rest of the time so the opposite of a bear in a way

[acoustic osprey]

lol

that'd be pretty scary.
Once very "X" years it awakes

[icy onyx]

yea so every thing on the island knows of there existence but mostly lives in peace because he only feeds once befor sleep

[icy onyx]

im a reaper fanboy at heart but i hope they introduce them in a good way and if u do another stream on isle talk im def gonna watch lol

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[acoustic osprey]

oh yeah! Reaper is great

[icy onyx]

missed the last one and gigga trodon and dilo are def gonna be my fav mostly because the play stiles they all share bite/apply your affect then wait thats why im drawn to reaper

[icy onyx]

and also it a dang gargoyle/bat so i have to love it

[acoustic osprey]

yea!

[icy onyx]

but if u ever want to play let me know ima finish watching yo stream and drawing

[acoustic osprey]

Sure thing

Likely not know, but in the future? Why not

[icy onyx]

sound like fun have a great night,day,afternoon, life lol see ya

[acoustic osprey]

you too

[gloomy dove]

e.g killing several other full growns of your own species, or sustaining a prefect diet as a full grown, going to all parts of the map in one life, etc

[rain mortar]

Id like it if we had like an unlockabke 3rd pattern for each species by successfully growing them to adult or something like that

[slow delta]

me when still no lore drop

[acoustic osprey]

the question is

What counts as a lore drop

Like this isn't a story singleplayer game, obviously.
So understanding the story is, unlike those games, a journey/voyage

So, what is a lore drop?
Realistically, anything in #isle-phase-three is really efficient

Obviously it isn't a "crap tonne of lore"

But do you need to know so much all at once?

Fed constantly, as if a singleplayer story game

For something like this, especially with games like Sea of Thieves, a good lore drop is something that is at least efficient in both answering and not answering small aspects of lore

Good storytelling is by not telling, so to speak.
If you're going to answer everything about your lore in one drop. Why care about lore afterwards?

it's what I really liked about 291

291 both gave a nice little insight into (guessing) pre-"disaster" of Apollo Engineering/The Isle

but also many questions.
Especially the documents he was holding

But I don't know.
For most people, I'm guessing lore drop is something like an update's worth of lore "dropped" in front of them.

but, the "quantity" can always depend.
The more "larger drops" you get, the more you want larger and larger drops- with your "lore drop bar" rising.
Your "standard" rises, etc.

https://tenor.com/view/gene-takovic-gene-takovic-its-showtime-its-showtime-folks-gene-better-call-saul-gif-26418236

But I don't know. I'm just a little lore man

[slow delta]

i wouldn't call concept art lore. im talking about the arg side of things with the clues and decoding either in-game or not

[sand seal]

Did you guys decode that blacked out message yet?

[acoustic osprey]

Which concept art?

If you're calling the incident report a concept art

I'm going to say no
You are wrong

[acoustic osprey]

Yes and no
Aspects of it can be assumed via increasing exposure and contrast

But
No

Too much grain

A lot of artificial artefacts arise

[acoustic osprey]

Especially, with 291 adding nice aspects to assumed locations
Like Tartarus

Talked about the idea that the "bottom" section is/or linked to Tartarus

Via Network theory

But, like any game with non-story focused lore

Who knows

Hence theories

https://tenor.com/view/bonjour-party-inglourious-basterds-gif-14867086

[sand seal]

Show me

[acoustic osprey]

You're killing me, but sure

I will scroll through the many months for you

This is such example

Where users were able to assume letters by following the font's characteristics

Note that, still, things like artefacts exist

By upping contrast can also get rid of aspects of the character as well

However, I am now extremely tired and must attend to my voyage of rest.

If you are intrigued by the findings of others and myself, I believe most of this was found during early November

Around 12th of November

[slow delta]

bro what look at isle phase three, after the incident report its all concept art

i gave up on the incident report

too hard, full of bias and in the end not even that significant

[icy onyx]

do u have any videos or sum explaining what Tartarus is or what it might be

[sharp knoll]

A huge containment (for strains maybe), but in Greek mythology is a huge prison for titans.

[sand seal]

Now that I know what the statement is, I love seeing the attempt on it.

[icy onyx]

Hope we get more of that stuff soon

[acoustic osprey]

Well yes
However, it has been a month since it

Looking at lore stuff and when things are announced, I don't imagine very much anyways

Albeit, Don was hinting at something about Rex
But alas we did not get to see it

[echo gazelle]

hmm

[icy onyx]

All these years and I just realized the discord’s image has a stock of Asclepius in it

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[acoustic flame]

I think that the SCP Foundation has something to do with it

[modern rover]

it does not

just going to throw that out there

SCP Foundation has zero things to do with The Isle

[acoustic flame]

Ok

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[sand seal]

Can you imagine trying to license all of that conglomerated information and stories to try to attach your world to it? ...insanity.

[fossil void]

No

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/olaf-wow-gif-22190506

[light flare]

Imagine the amount of filing cabinets it would take to hold all the licensing agreements the Fortnite devs have for all the licensed content in their game.

Legions of lawyers furiously typing takka takka takka

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[maiden sundial]

How did Bethesda aka Microsoft even agree to epic games getting the slayer

[light flare]

If they got Master Chief they can get anybody.

[cerulean spindle]

“Your telling me there’s dinosaurs on this island” - merc rajas before being dragged into the bush by a raptor

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/well-there-it-is-jeff-goldblum-gif-14058551

[hidden ginkgo]

the isle has lore ?

[cinder shoal]

Yes, hopefully more should be coming soon™️

[hidden ginkgo]

is it like jurassic park where they brought dinosaurs back to life?

[bold crater]

Kinda, yeah 😛

The reasonings are vastly different though. It's not for a park or anything.

[acoustic osprey]

very similar

[maiden sundial]

Kinda. But replace to entertain with be used for military purposes

And also experimentation with human like subjects too

[bold crater]

Unlikely military purposes. More so medical purposes I believe.

[acoustic osprey]

Medicinal

And creation of artificial humans fun

[maiden sundial]

The hypos

And neuros.

[acoustic osprey]

Hypers

Made for Medicine reason

[maiden sundial]

Why is that?

Why would a nonstop killing machine that is constantly in a caloric deficit used for medical reasons

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-lore-theories message
Practically go from here and scroll down a tiny bit

[acoustic osprey]

I presume they didn't mass produce Hypers.
The creation of "them" likely being the beginning of AE's fall from Spiro and/or Gateway

[maiden sundial]

I bet neuros were the nail in the coffin considering their high intelligence

[acoustic osprey]

yes

Especially with Echidna

[narrow rose]

sorry for asking those questions but i have been playing the isle and knowing the game for a LONG time but i did never read things abt the lore what's an hyper and what is AE

[maiden sundial]

Hypers are the hypo rex and company. And Æ is the corporation that made the dinosaurs. Their logo is on the loading screen

[narrow rose]

oh yea the hypers are the dinosaurs on steroids

that admins can play in legacy

?

[maiden sundial]

With the downside of they are hypervores. Constantly in a caloric deficit

[narrow rose]

oh ok

[maiden sundial]

Yea those are in lore

[narrow rose]

thanks

[acoustic osprey]

Apollo Engineering

[narrow rose]

we don't know much things abt the lore right?

[acoustic osprey]

Yes and no

[maiden sundial]

The lore is kinda all over the place due to evrima

[narrow rose]

oh ok

[maiden sundial]

Legacy lore is a bit sound. But not much is known

[narrow rose]

if hypers starve to death why can't we still see them on the legacy island

[maiden sundial]

I remember when I started playing I thought that the cannibal was something like herobrine

[narrow rose]

like a legend

[narrow rose]

or smth?

[maiden sundial]

Legend and also that he existed i was quite naive back then

[narrow rose]

well i though that herobrine existed too

[acoustic osprey]

yes, still does

[narrow rose]

anyway abt the humans on isla spiros

WHY

[acoustic osprey]

Made by AE

AE, being a medicine-based company, likely wants to create a more perfect human

They are playing God

[narrow rose]

bruh the JW is tired of making dinos they make hybrids AE make humans

https://tenor.com/view/think-about-it-use-your-brain-use-the-brain-think-brain-gif-7914082

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[maiden sundial]

Æ does both

[narrow rose]

double bruh

wait is there hybrids in the isle?

[acoustic osprey]

AE making both Dinos and Humans

[narrow rose]

triple bruh

[acoustic osprey]

No.
Strains could be counted as hybrids but not really

[narrow rose]

what are strains

[acoustic osprey]

"strained" variants of dinos

[maiden sundial]

Hypo rex and company are the hyper strain

[narrow rose]

nevermind i googled it

[acoustic osprey]

such includes the infamous Hyper Rex

[maiden sundial]

Ones like neuro spinosaurus which is able to be as smart if not smarter than a human

Then there's also the robotic strain. New to evrima

[acoustic osprey]

I wouldn't call it robotic strain

[maiden sundial]

Rather just the robots

[acoustic osprey]

more like just one AE creation being a Cyborg-esque Drone

[maiden sundial]

There's likely gonna be more

[acoustic osprey]

which might be replicated with other dinos.
But might not

"Robo Quetz" might literally just be the same "concepted idea" as what Tap made it for
being a drone

[maiden sundial]

Ah

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/wrong-gif-10683588

But hey, it might not be to Tap's original vision.
And something different

As we've only seen one thing about it.
It being stationary with a few engineers doing something with it

[narrow rose]

basically the isle is some kind of Jurassic world where AE realised that they were doing dumb things and they left the island?

[acoustic osprey]

More like JP

[narrow rose]

k i think i understood a little bit more abt the lore

[acoustic osprey]

AE, likely (as you might be able to guess from Concept art), left Spiro and/or other islands like Gateway because "something" occured

this "something" could be anything.
But we can definitely say Spiro and other islands were abandoned

[narrow rose]

i think the reason why spiro was abandoned is different

idk there is smth in spiro that is weird when im playing but idk what

[acoustic osprey]

I mean, anything is on the table

[acoustic osprey]

giant blue map barrier?

lol

[narrow rose]

no

just idk

well maybe because of the deinos

for the simple fact that they can adapt to saltwater

[acoustic osprey]

Maybe.
Not like they can drink from it

[narrow rose]

yes but they can acct like salt water crocodiles in our days

and pov your at the beach with your homies and there a 10meters crocodile

[acoustic osprey]

Not sure

[narrow rose]

or for the simple fact that dinos are buffed in evrima

[acoustic osprey]

buffed?

[narrow rose]

i mean a carno in legacy is goofy ahh compared to the evrima one

to me

well actually it would be a good idea to make varients of dinos through the islands

[bold crater]

Could say they're doing the acts of God

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[narrow rose]

for example the legacy dilophosaurus is realistic and maybe they should add some kind of JP dilo

that spit venom for evrima

[maiden sundial]

Well evrima does have a venomous dilo. It just has LSD venom

And it isnt spit

[modern rover]

they're quite against the spit dilo

[maiden sundial]

It wouldn't really make sense tbh

[hidden ginkgo]

really, what military purpose does a hypsi have xD

[bold crater]

I believe it's also copyright

[maiden sundial]

True. Though it could be for medicinal purposes. There are OTHER ones that make more sense to be war ones

Like the hypers

[hidden ginkgo]

so where is all that experimenting happening? I havent seen any facilities that contained laboratories or offices

[maiden sundial]

I mean gateway DOES have biodomes.

[hidden ginkgo]

yeea biodomes but where are all the scientists working yk?

probably they are not on the island then

[maiden sundial]

Likely on some sort of other island

Since apparently Æ abandoned gateway and spiro

At least up until recently. Cuz mercs exist

[maiden sundial]

@hidden ginkgo

[hidden ginkgo]

and thenyaw and v3 lol

did evrima rewrite the lore or are they adding to it

[maiden sundial]

Both

Ripping some lore out and putting new in. But keeping some and adding to it

I believe the strains are going to stay remotely the same

[hidden ginkgo]

Okay so basically AE is some big company that built secret foundations on lost islands to clone dinosaurs and hoomans, then something went wrong and they had to abandon the islands

whats a strain? everyone keeps mentioning it

[maiden sundial]

You know the hypos? And the neuro spino?

[hidden ginkgo]

I only know hypos from youtube yea

[maiden sundial]

Those are strains

[acoustic osprey]

Not Mercs

[acoustic osprey]

where were they working? On the Islands

[hidden ginkgo]

light claw, someone told me you’re the lore expert lol

[maiden sundial]

True he knows more than me

Take what I said with a grain of salt

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/better-call-saul-bcs-best-decision-gif-26287112

[maiden sundial]

Some day light claw i WILL surpass you

[acoustic osprey]

oh no

[hidden ginkgo]

shouldn’t there be facility leftovers of the scientists then? Cuz everything human related on spiro looks very military to me

[maiden sundial]

Well we only have 1/4 of the map to us

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

There are a bunch (in concept art)
But basically non in-game yet

that being, Spiro is pretty empty at the moment and no where near finished

[hidden ginkgo]

where can I find that concept art ?

[maiden sundial]

#isle-phase-three and #phase-two-archive

[acoustic flame]

We need a movie

[hazy burrow]

[grizzled mauve]

that would get copyrighted by jurassic world faster than a hypsi dies

[severe raft]

https://tenor.com/view/wheeze-laugh-gif-14359545

[half linden]

Acro Tackle move?

[modest viper]

But the jurassic world movies were based off the novals if Dondi made a movie about the story of the isle it would be based off a game not books 😉

[grizzled mauve]

You know what? you're right... maybe we SHOULD make a movie!

[modest viper]

XD

[grizzled mauve]

It would be kinda sick tho.. omg imagine the hypos

[modest viper]

the whole reason the island went crazy is cause of them

also there would be no park for guests its just dinos roam the island inside of fences

so can they really copyright it?

[void apex]

nah

The Islands were used as a testing ground for medical research, some kind of strains or proteins had certain reactions with biological bodies

Hyperendocrine, a metabolism... thing

Neurotenic, which seems to be a neurological thing

and Tissoplastic, which is probably something to do with tissue or the likes

[maiden sundial]

A condition known as hypervores. Basically no matter what the animal is in a caloric deficit

Think the skullcrawlers from the monsterverse

[mystic rivet]

Yep they had hypervore stuff

[maiden sundial]

But yea you are right with that. However itd also make sense if they had more than one use considering hypo rex is killing machine dead set on killing everything in sight. And neuro spino being smarter than a human and a mastermind. I wouldn't put it past one that they're the reason all the maps we have seen have been abandoned

[acoustic osprey]

Well, the first novel

[modest viper]

Yeah but then again the used the camouflage from the lost world on the I-rex

[bold crater]

Indo camo was tremendously underutilized and wasn't even used well

[granite perch]

sapo

[dusky valley]

What if they have a giant turtle as a playable

And it’s an onimvore

[cedar perch]

oh

[neon mesa]

Why EVER deactivate it...

[hexed flax]

According to an AI this is what tissoplastic means:

Maybe the Tissos can produce this at will. That would explain why they have spikes everywhere

[acoustic osprey]

Interesting

[acoustic osprey]

Likely being able to change their skin (tissue) colour and pattern

[hexed flax]

Yeah thats what i thought whe i read "cosmetic surgeries"

[mystic rivet]

Maybe they have accelerated healing

[gentle vessel]

That’s hypers

[hexed flax]

I don't think so. Hypers can't afford to waste any energy on accelerated healing. They most likely don't feel any pain because of a heavily increased Adrenaline output

[acoustic osprey]

They might be able to regenerate tissue easier?

If they could alter already existing tissue

But that's a maybe.
Still need explicit information on what they can do in canon

[icy onyx]

Tissue biogenesis

[gentle vessel]

I think it might be like

Changing their tissues make up

Like if needed, change skin to armor, or spikes, or to a smooth surface

[mystic rivet]

Maybe faster bleed healing cuz that would be a tissue wound of u get flesh bitten off

[bold crater]

Like how octopi can alter skin texture n' such

[gentle vessel]

Except x10

Not just changing the texture, changing it’s very make up

[bold crater]

Reminds me of the Blacklight virus in [PROTOTYPE] where it lets infected who don't get screwed over by the virus shapeshift their body into different things like sharp blades or focusing mass for more strength/weight.

Something like that in Isle would be wicked awesome

Tisso is getting reworked.....just saying

[acoustic osprey]

That'd be interesting
Makes it a bit of an "all rounder" though

Which might be more op over the other two

[gentle vessel]

Not if you make it tiny

Like, way way smaller

[acoustic osprey]

Maybe

[gentle vessel]

Liked, if a normal rex is 8 tons, tisso rex at like, 3

[acoustic osprey]

But you still make it the most preferable to become

H Rex or T omni?

H Rex is more powerful, sure
But T omni would be the better all rounder anyways

No, actually, that's unfair

But, just depends
Still want each three fitting, preferably, a different contrasting niche

[gentle vessel]

Imo having an all rounder strain that can go from sneaky mode to combat mode works imo

[acoustic osprey]

Magna (O)

[icy onyx]

Wait no…

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caduceus

[mystic rivet]

Lightclaw have a look at this @acoustic osprey

Dondi said this btw but u can’t see cuz it’s in a very long msg

[acoustic osprey]

yeah?

[old stone]

The staff of hermes is different from the staff of asclepius

Ascelpius is the god of medicine, and his staff has one snake

[icy onyx]

yes, that

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah, one snake vs two

[old stone]

Hermes is the god of a lot of things messengers, and his staff has 2

[icy onyx]

i wonder

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401480573471948821/469520870294028289/dbe73dc0a1c9b3e19694aa874cc7ab0a.png

[acoustic osprey]

AE thinking they're peace bringing and the "messenger of god" 🙂
Basically to King Hong Xiuquan calling himself the brother to Jesus, being holy-esque
But yes, technic PI had the double helix

However, I say it's a bit in a grey zone (the staff in the discord logo)

Because the gif is very old.

[icy onyx]

Hermes and Apollo

hmmmm

[icy onyx]

yes, that's what i was thinking

[acoustic osprey]

Albeit, AE would've been Hermes

As Hermes stole Apollo's cows

But, as per from what Don has said, who knows anymore now

Maybe the Discord gif is perfectly fine and relevant. But maybe not

[pseudo fable]

Has nothing to do with PI. I have no idea why I need to circle back to this, ever.

[acoustic osprey]

Good

I'm guessing it, the use of Hermes' rod, is just hugely symbolic.
Likely to their ego?
Them using a bunch of Greek Mythos titles and names does sound fairly egotistic

[chrome acorn]

Medicine

[mystic rivet]

Playing god

[acoustic osprey]

Playing God

[acoustic osprey]

Asclepius

[livid shard]

I can't believe all this god stuff could be connected, I never thought of it that way

Only with this information can we know the purposes of the manipulation and development of dinosaurs.

[acoustic osprey]

The more you know

[livid shard]

Still, I'm still confused why though, I'm not sure if legacy islands are canonical with Evrima, and also if PI has something to do with it

[acoustic osprey]

PI = nothing

Legacy lore (and islands) = Likely not

I believe some old lore might resurface.

[livid shard]

Even though Dondi has already said it many times, I would still like the two games to be related in some way.

[acoustic osprey]

obviously some aspects of old lore easily have the capability of resurfacing

[acoustic osprey]

As cool as it was.
The removal does allow for more creative freedom in the end

[gentle vessel]

It could just be they are a medical company

Since Hermes and Apollo both are medical gods, just different parts of medical care

[acoustic osprey]

Gods, but the significance also fits with the actual rod

Why not use Ascelpius' rod?

being of proper significance with medicine

[gentle vessel]

Probably because when most people think medical symbol it’s the 2 snakes around a staff

[acoustic osprey]

rather than Apollo being akin to healing

[acoustic osprey]

As most get it wrong.

[gentle vessel]

Well Apollo was the god of medicine, archery and music

[acoustic osprey]

Healing

Aesculapius being Medicine

[gentle vessel]

Either way, you get the point

Bio medical company, names itself after a god of healing

[acoustic osprey]

the actual symbolism, to which companies often confuse, place with Medicine

I don't think AE, being heavily linked with Greek Mythos, would get it wrong and confuse the two rods

unless it's just a mistake by the storyteller

Unless done on purpose by Don (it being a mistake)

that could even link to ego

[acoustic osprey]

But yes
Funny bio medical company likes Gods

I could be very wrong.
It's just that relating stuff you own with God's and ancient Mythos, can be very ego-worth

[gentle vessel]

Tbf

Many company’s are ego filled by default

[acoustic osprey]

True

[acoustic osprey]

This just being a good case of God ego with God power

[gentle vessel]

One thing I wonder about Apollo

How the hell they got the prehistoric critter dna

Since dna breaks down after 1,000 years

[acoustic osprey]

Honestly
Doesn't need to be a JP

They could've just made them without a base

Who knows.

Sci fi land

We got no idea on Don's worldbuilding boundaries

[pseudo fable]

They're probably bad.

[chrome acorn]

Wha

[acoustic osprey]

Ha yeah, fair
Just hopefully a good excuse to realities sad facts

[icy onyx]

Or secrecy?

[acoustic osprey]

why so?

[icy onyx]

Code naming

[acoustic osprey]

?

[drowsy nova]

One question I have is, what does AE stand for?

[strange shell]

Apollo Engineering

[drowsy nova]

Alright, thanks

I thought it meant After Effects for some reason

[strange shell]

It does also mean After Effects, but not in the same context

[drowsy nova]

Yeah, yeah

[acoustic osprey]

[bold crater]

I may have asked something similar before, but in case I didn't....

Do we know if Neurotenics are sapient at all? (If I'm using that term correctly....) As in could they form their own personalities and emotions n' such? Or are they just really, really smart and nothing more? 😛

[acoustic osprey]

Who knows

[bold crater]

A part of me hopes for there to be a Neuro in the lore that's human-levels of smart, but at the same time that kind of stuff can easily go from scary to lame.

Like when a movie portrays an animal as more of a monster out to kill for fun than just an animal. It takes away it's scariness despite it being smarter.

[old stone]

Intelligence can be incredibly difficult to quantify in animals. Also pretty much all sentient animals have personalities and emotions

[maiden sundial]

Iirc the neuro spino is as intelligent if not more than a human

[acoustic osprey]

If not in today's canon.
Echidna is likely.

I'm presuming all neuros have some sort of elevated intelligence

smaller but smarter

https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-park-world-velociraptor-clever-gif-25116052

[maiden sundial]

True

[acoustic osprey]

it just depends really.
It'd be interesting to see. As obviously you couldn't show that in-game, because anything playable is going to be as smart as a human playing it

[maiden sundial]

Maybe it being able to do certain human things? Like use human weapons if they are small. Not like guns. But spears and such.

[acoustic osprey]

that'd be a bit... weird?

Especially with Neuros "being Neuro"
Less so associated the body but with the mind

[maiden sundial]

What is echidna again i don't remember

[acoustic osprey]

Mother of the Cannibals

[maiden sundial]

Oh. Wait a min there's more than one cannibal? I thought that there was only one

[maiden sundial]

Yea that doesn't seem like it could use tools

[acoustic osprey]

Only one

(Which be Gen 1)

[maiden sundial]

Ah

[acoustic osprey]

but she's not the actual mother
just adopted mother

[maiden sundial]

Gen one cannibals look like scp 096

But gen 2 humans look more...human

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[maiden sundial]

SCP 096 HAS BREACHED CONTAINMENT

[acoustic osprey]

I wonder how different the Eyeless and Tribals are

To their legacy art counterparts

[acoustic osprey]

(This being The Eyeless)

[maiden sundial]

And there's different TYPES of cannibal?

[severe raft]

Wait what

[acoustic osprey]

Only one. The Tribal

The Eyeless is something else.
However, it could be a Neuro Tribal

[maiden sundial]

Perhaps tisso?

[acoustic osprey]

Having very similar characteristics to a neuro.

(being blind)

Then we look at Echidna and say "But you're a Neuro as well?"

And we ask what Echidna is a Neuro from

Tribal? Human? A Neuro Eyeless?

[maiden sundial]

They look a lot like nosferatous from the world of darkness series. In the fact that they are butt ugly

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[maiden sundial]

They also are cursorial. Which applies an ambush hunting style

[acoustic osprey]

if the design stays the same/similar

[maiden sundial]

Itd make sense if they were.

[acoustic osprey]

but honestly, I do like the design(s)
They are very nice

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

Hopefully we learn the actual name to them as well

[maiden sundial]

Even if they were neuro. Neuros are supposed to be quick right?

[acoustic osprey]

I think? Nothing really on it.
Neuro Spino was pretty normal, iirc?

[maiden sundial]

True

[acoustic osprey]

I think I can remember Don playing with them on stream many years ago

but I cannot remember how fast it was

[fringe marsh]

they be ponder'n that cube.

[acoustic osprey]

Aye

[sleek temple]

i thought its concept showing it catch a carno, so mabye its faster than carno

[acoustic osprey]

Of the Eyeless? Yeah
I'm presuming they're fast

especially those legs

[icy onyx]

Another Type N with siphoning/piercing mouth parts

[acoustic osprey]

which is this from?

[acoustic osprey]

oh yeah, Tap's fan one

I presume a good portion of her "Before dev + Unofficial" stuff may make their way into actual canon

looking at Drone Quetz

but she can definitely capture the horror sci-fi side of The Isle pretty darn well

[rustic urchin]

id like to see what tap can do with strains with dondi working with her

could be some cool stuff

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[solid estuary]

That is horrifying!

[bleak mantle]

fr

[wise quail]

word

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/ian-malcolm-oh-yeah-oooh-ahhh-thats-how-it-always-starts-thats-how-it-always-begins-the-lost-world-jurassic-park-gif-25928166

[vocal violet]

ooooo sorry wrong channel

[quartz sundial]

new homework for theory ppl

why do yall think the mutant strain trees were left on the island

(assuming they are/were)

[long onyx]

to kill

[quartz sundial]

but why!

were they just used as experiments for strains before animals

[long onyx]

they were trees that grew out of hypo dung

[quartz sundial]

😑

how long do they take to grow

can herbis eat them

@acoustic osprey i require your counsel

i always hear a common theory that hypers were made to be weapons, but if thats the case (and who knows if it is) then why plants too

they cant be deployed as weapons if they need to be planted and grown i imagine

so its prob a less simple answer

[acoustic osprey]

likely not left there

But we knew they had Botany section somewhere

[quartz sundial]

:O

[acoustic osprey]

So I'm presuming, after "insert incident(s)" botany stuff broke out

[quartz sundial]

do u think the plants grew in absence of people, or did people help it grow

[acoustic osprey]

definitely the first

but
Maybe The Tribals did interact with such plants

If strain plants still exist.
To which I presume they might just

(Seeing as there is a place called "Botany")

[quartz sundial]

😱

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/wrong-gif-10683588

Now's the wonder how the cage will be implemented in-game and what + who AE used the cages for

Although it might just be very obvious:

AE -> Takes dino to island using it

[quartz sundial]

yeah

i doubt itll be like ark where its a PVP thing you build anywhere you want

maybe its something you find and repair

[acoustic osprey]

nothing like ARK

Trapping players sounds like a nightmare for the player (getting trapped) itself

[quartz sundial]

speaking of human stuff

does anyone remember the, like, artificial biome generator things

[acoustic osprey]

the biodomes?

[quartz sundial]

cant remember if concept art was shown off for them, but i remember dondi talking about them when he was streaming the reveal of type N spino

ya

[acoustic osprey]

Aye

I believe Punch talked about biodomes.
Nothing confirmed.

but we know we're getting "domes" soon (more so Aviaries)

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/frozone-never-heard-that-one-before-gif-11561148

[maiden sundial]

What he say

[acoustic osprey]

funny lore stuff

[maiden sundial]

Why he delete?

[acoustic osprey]

I honestly can't remember as I'm doing something at the moment.
Whilst being early at midnight

I think either Mod deleted it
they thought this was the wrong channel
or thought I was mod

[tender shard]

Tribals craft weapons from dinosaur bones when

[vast orchid]

now

[severe raft]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-scratch-like-thats-ever-gonna-happen-book-gif-16284864

[little dock]

Utah toe claw shiv

[magic helm]

Or a karambit 😂

[ember spindle]

i think the isle lore is the time before a meteor hit like dino and earth go boom and moon created god yeah... yaeh thats what i think. suggestions to my theory?

[sonic rampart]

It's wrong

[acoustic osprey]

No

Saurian? Sure
But Isle is more akin to a sci-fi modern/post-modern front

[knotty jolt]

Would anything in the lore suggest towards type H or the other two strains ingame would not be able to be kept indefinitely as long as you can keep up with the insane food drain? I get the impression reading the roadmap that the strains wouldn't be (in like 10 years lol) permanent like an adult would be so maybe theres something in the lore dunno

[acoustic osprey]

I believe Don said something about Hypers' hunger drain draining so much that you cannot and would not be able sustain yourself

but Tissos and Neuros? Other story

[sand seal]

Exponentially increasing hunger rate would be neat. Like at the start its relatively fine, but gets harder and harder as time goes on.

[knotty jolt]

Hm interesting

Wonder what could stop you keeping neuros or tissos indefinitely then

[sand seal]

Neuros may have brains on their diet, so would be more difficult depending on your prey. Tissos could have a similar annoying or difficult dietary hindrance.

Neuros needing to eat their own parent species could be a fun difficulty and definitely make it a limiting factor.

[knotty jolt]

Would be interesting to see what dondi comes up with

[acoustic osprey]

Till you'd need admin to survive a good few minutes

Again and again

[acoustic osprey]

Likely Neuro/tisso being really weak

[knotty jolt]

Well neuro yeah tisso not so much if its like tapwings depictions

Idk how their going to handle neuros intelligence ingame and its weird abilities if its physically awful because well everyone has human intelligence behind the screen

Maybe it has tons of gimmicks or something

[acoustic osprey]

(defensively weak)

[acoustic osprey]

pretty much

I wonder if Tisso's ability to be more akin to tissues

Tisso camo 😎

[icy onyx]

Krows birthday having something to do with hyper colossus (real)

[acoustic osprey]

Actually Replicator

(real)

[runic sinew]

Can someone tell me the lore of the isle? Like r the dinosaurs test subjects or something? And where even is it

[static schooner]

what if the cannibals are actually people who ate hypo's and were transformed.

[strange shell]

Hypers

[acoustic osprey]

Yes and no

[acoustic osprey]

Cannibals (Tribals) were made by AE as the first Gen of humans

but Cannibals (Eyeless) are likely linked with Neuros and/or Echidna (maybe even the Replicator)

[knotty jolt]

wouldnt the eyeless be worse physically though if their related to neuros or something? i get the impression their alot more adept at movement and maybe stronger than tribals

[runic sinew]

Huh tell me more cause I didn't understand the doc

[acoustic osprey]

who knows

everything about them is sadly quite "?"

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/better-call-saul-unban-me-dawson-thomas-britton-gif-18904111

[runic sinew]

Just tell me r humans alive during these dinos? And what's all this talk about humans becoming better and stronger

[acoustic osprey]

The humans on The Isle are genetically made by AE (Apollo Engineering)

[runic sinew]

Wait wait there are humans in the isle? And they're being made by other humans?? Huh

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

Pretty much AE playing "God"

[runic sinew]

Where are they? The humans???

[acoustic osprey]

Makes sense with them naming buildings after Greek Mythos

[acoustic osprey]

More perfected Humans, basically

[runic sinew]

So why r dinosaurs involved

[acoustic osprey]

Who knows.
Likely to avoid heavy animal laws

[runic sinew]

WDYM? With what they're doing it must be hidden and top secret

I mean when is this happening? In the 2000s or more in the future

Cause if people knee the dinos would be attractions

Attraction parks

[acoustic osprey]

Happened in around ~80 (or equivalent time to the 1980s in "Isle universe")

But we're playing roughly around 20-40 years after certain events occurred

AE (Apollo Engineering) being a bio-engineering medicine company

[runic sinew]

So they create dinos for fun and make humans out of scratch?!

[acoustic osprey]

Likely dinos as "Lab rats"

[runic sinew]

So they test things on dinos and release them in a giant cage?

[acoustic osprey]

likely (back when they were more active)

[runic sinew]

Wdym more active? They stopped doing experiments?

[acoustic osprey]

They seemed to have stopped
and came back

(presumed because buildings in-game and concept art are weathered)

[runic sinew]

So their goal is to just make better and more enhanced humans?

[acoustic osprey]

Maybe

presume something for "Medicine"

[runic sinew]

So why aren't these advanced humans roaming around in the isle

[runic sinew]

Cause if they made these humans wouldn't u find them around the island

[acoustic osprey]

Aye, yes.
Gen 2

[runic sinew]

Wdym

[acoustic osprey]

The humans are called Generation Two

[runic sinew]

Ye why aren't they on the map

[acoustic osprey]

They'll be in Update 6

[runic sinew]

Wait what

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[runic sinew]

So I'll be able to be a fast and strong human?

[acoustic osprey]

Wouldn't say strong

[runic sinew]

Wouldn't that ruin the game?

[acoustic osprey]

Not sure, that's a balance thing

[runic sinew]

And what'll be the point then

[void apex]

to lay the groundwork

[runic sinew]

Ye but in a dino world to just see a human is wierd

[acoustic osprey]

Not dino world

[void apex]

you're on an island with plenty of human buildings, it isn't a dino world, it is a human island

[runic sinew]

Ye

[acoustic osprey]

It's a very human world.
Just with a dino-filled island

[runic sinew]

But there are only dinos I mean that's the whole point of the game

[acoustic osprey]

No

[runic sinew]

Wdym bruh

[acoustic osprey]

But yes, there haven't been much of humans though

but the "point of the game" isn't entirely directed about Dinos

[runic sinew]

U know what, how does the barrier work that stops dinos from going out?

I mean what if the dinos r failed human experiments or is that not possible

[acoustic osprey]

the big blue barrier or?

[runic sinew]

Ye

[acoustic osprey]

That's just because Spiro is too big and unfinished

[runic sinew]

Bruh

[runic sinew]

So what about this

[acoustic osprey]

Dinos being failed humans?

Likely could be Colossus (if you look at some old art)

but likely no

[runic sinew]

Ye or experiments done on humans that turned em like that

[runic sinew]

But then there is no point in the dinos, however if they were humans tested on that would make sense

[acoustic osprey]

lab rats

Just basic "No laws, so it's a lot easier to test on dino than not"

[runic sinew]

How literally they have humans for that

[runic sinew]

Bruh that's such a boring thoery

[acoustic osprey]

Would you even call Gen 1 a human

They're just tall humanoid monsters

But who knows.

[runic sinew]

Yes gen 1 is human tf