isle-lore-theories

[acoustic osprey]

Depends on what's been changed/added for the two

Hypers might be crazy powerful, but they'd probably be the most "time limited" compared to the two others

[strange shell]

Neuros die of brain cancer after a few days

[modern rover]

i dont think any part of strains should look natural tbh

[bold crater]

By natural I meant it's not trying to look scary, it just is. The new design however appears as though it's trying too hard to be a big scary monster.

[knotty locust]

I’ve theorised before that neuros require vast amounts of energy resulting in them hanging around generators, engines, etc, while tissoplastics (if they’re still the old edgy assassin strain) just have an extreme burning hatred for anything living

like they hate life so much that it actually eats them from the inside or whatever

[bold crater]

Kinda makes me think of Tanks from L4D where the lore reason as to why they die if they don't hit anyone is they literally die from frustration.

[still scarab]

Honestly I’d image neuros having super soft fragile skin

Tisso seemed pretty self explanatory being their size

I also personally like the hypo rex redesign

The other looked way too clean

The new one gives a sense of dread of why humanity meddled around an made a monster rather than an animal

Gives me annihilation bear vibes

[gentle vessel]

Idk man

The kinda, perfectly geometric plating and tusks doesn’t seem

Mutanty enough for me

Seems more like a dinosaur from like, mortal kombat than a mutant caused by gene testing gone horrid

[neon mesa]

It's design looks like it's trying SO hard to be cool....

[rustic urchin]

new one seems more like a designed hybrid than like, a mutation

albeit the former may make more sense in terms of lore, we dont know

[acoustic osprey]

Being medical reasons

[rustic urchin]

yea, we just know hypers were made for medical testing stuff

if their process was to take a rex embryo and inject it with some hyperendocrin strain, the latter makes more sense

random, messy

if the scientists are miticulously designing this thing to be a certain way the former may make more sense, a "cleaner" creature that looks like it has traits from other creatures added in (hippos)

[modern rover]

i like the new hyper design because it looks like its just growing randomly, it loses a lot of rhyme or reason to certain traits because it's a genetically modified creature going through extremely rapid growth and development beyond adulthood

[rustic urchin]

feels opposite to me

old one felt very random and rapid growing, unclean, unrefined

had like tumor looking things and uneven growth

new one is clean looking and has traits that look predesigned

[modern rover]

the new one does not look clean. It's got spikes protruding from random spots, its mouth is just growing different parts with very little logic behind it

[rustic urchin]

its very symmetrical, cleanly divided scales/plates, every part fits in their place

vs like the vega design

where it just looks like its lost control

like i enjoy new hyper as a design, just not a H-rex design

depending how the lore pans out may change my opinion on it but idk

[acoustic osprey]

Strains

The design would make sense if Hypers were made for a proper medicinal reason

[rustic urchin]

strain may imply that hyperendocrin is like a virus or microorganism

and may just be injected into embryos or possible adult animals to get the funny monsters

and the intended goal of it was to refine this to give some other effect like refined cell regeneration (preventing cancerous cells from forming) or something

makes more sense to me than designed creatures bearing these traits, idk

[meager junco]

If I’m not mistaken, it’s been said that the H-strain is more of a virus due to the effects it does to the animals

[acoustic osprey]

like a virus, but not a complete virus

The most "virus-esque" strain from old lore was Neuros

[rustic urchin]

strains in biology usually refer to viral stuff so makes sense

[acoustic osprey]

Hypers, and other strains, don't seem to be total viruses.
But not perfect alterations to the animals.

[rustic urchin]

like a strain of the flu

and since a virus is basically just a packet of DNA, and some can alter the dna of their host, there you go

inject embryo with hyper strain, watch it melt into a hyper

[acoustic osprey]

I mean, that's all these strains are.
Alterations of the dinosaur/being to make it better

[rustic urchin]

ye

[acoustic osprey]

"Better" being the original intention

[rustic urchin]

although my guess is the hyper strain were familiar with is somewhat of a failed experiment

[acoustic osprey]

I wouldn't say it was a failed experiment

Hyperendocrins are what they were designed to be

They just die too quickly

Neuros being, likely, being heavily based on the "Brain"-side of things.
Especially if you see Echidna, they didn't seem to be a failed experiment. Just an experiment literally becoming a strain of what it was.

Leading to whatever happened on Gateway and/or Spiro and co

[rustic urchin]

ig it depends on what exactly they were doing making these strains, we know its a medical goal in some way but i feel like making a super-dino doesnt directly achieve that. making some viral strain that modifies the hosts cell replication tho, that makes sense

[acoustic osprey]

But the "medicinal strains" can lead to do different ways.

1. Made to be exactly that (Hypers were supposed to be how they were, just a bit too much etc.)

or

2. Not what they intended

no.1 fits more on why Hyper-Rex looks like what it is now

It being made to be like that

[acoustic osprey]

The ultimate lab rat

[rustic urchin]

if the test subject ends up getting their jaws split up and grow random spikes it may not be intentional, but if the goal is bigger than that, i can see it

[acoustic osprey]

without laws against it
You can do whatever you want

[rustic urchin]

or yea just make a superdino so it can take whatever you throw at it testing wise

invincible test dummy

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[slow delta]

if vega's stuff was still cannon, i'd find out what these chemicals are...

[rustic urchin]

hmmm, do i analyze the macromolecules in a concept piece for a games lore, or study for my chem exam tomorrow

[still scarab]

also this was never the final product because we got this

[rustic urchin]

yea, although i wish we stuck with the original

[still scarab]

same i prefer that original

i do like the maulers in the mouth of the new design

it gives me a discomforting feeling like hypo gigas mouth

[rustic urchin]

i think it had the most unclean and raw look to it, plus featured in the main menu screen so im attached

[still scarab]

i always saw it as looking too clean but i guess its just a preference thing

just make all the type Hs armadillos

[rustic urchin]

vega era hyper just looks like it really was an experiment gone wrong

[still scarab]

boom problem solved

[rustic urchin]

unforseen consequence, hypers now have the uncontrollable urge to run into oncoming traffic

[still scarab]

yeah i'd say the new one and vega looks good i don't personally like the one in legacy

[rustic urchin]

they all have their own merits, i like all as standalone designs

[still scarab]

it felt out of place with the real abomnations like type h giga, spino, and carno

[slow delta]

Downloaded the super high-res of Vega's no-longer-cannon strain dossiers.

The chemicals listed on the Hyperendocrin are:
-Ethylene
-Auxin
-Cytokinins
-Jasmonic Acid
-Brassinosteroids
-Gibberellins
-Abscisic Acid

[rustic urchin]

I’ll try finding basic properties of each I guess, although I’m definitely no organic chemist

Ethylene seems to be a growth/development hormone in plants based off a quick Google search

Same with auxin

[slow delta]

they are all plant hormones

i guess we now know why hyperendocrins are green, they are part plant kek

[rustic urchin]

Have we had some connection with hyperendocrin strain and plants in the past? For some reason the concept sounds familiar

Maybe I’m thinking of strain plants

Or Godzilla earth lol

[slow delta]

i think we had but for the wrong reasons

[slow delta]

pretty hard to specifically put plant growth hormones by accident

even if you google growth hormones randomly, you only get human ones

[hexed flax]

Reminds me of the Monster from the "Relic" book and movie. A tribe in south America fed a human an addictive local plant which turned him into a monster because of the hormones it contained

[acoustic osprey]

Ceratosaurs

[chrome acorn]

revolutionary

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[edgy pike]

huge

[meager junco]

Step aside, we just found the mother load

[rustic urchin]

I never knew there was a high res version

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[rustic urchin]

Parkinson’s, aging, dementia

[acoustic osprey]

Medical reasons

[rustic urchin]

All things strains seem to be development for. Particularly neuros

Makes sense, brain disease

Don’t get that family tree with the hypers pointing to cerato tho

Probably nothing 🙂

[acoustic osprey]

Or everything

Because everything in old lore is still canon

[rustic urchin]

This whole time we thought hyper rex was a t.rex

In reality it’s just ceratorex

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah, we were just blind.

Ignorance
We didn't even realise it was right in front of us the whole time

But yes, the old stuff is really valuable to get a good insight

[rustic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-a-breakthrough-dr-greg-miller-wentworth-s8e10-breakthrough-gif-23011608

[acoustic osprey]

But, till reconfirmed, is only a nice thought to have

[rustic urchin]

Yes

Especially since a lot of it is mostly interpretation

And also a lot of the little words on that concept seem to not want to be read if that makes sense

[acoustic osprey]

Yep

[rustic urchin]

Lots of them are backwards, mirrored, upside down, repeat over and over

Like they’re meant to be glanced at not truly looked into

[acoustic osprey]

Pretty much

[rustic urchin]

This is interesting tho

Lol

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[bold crater]

I just want more info on Tissoplastics ;_;

I must know if they're still keeping the stealth vibe.

[rustic urchin]

I don’t even know where it was said they were reworking tissos

[bold crater]

It was a g e s ago

[rustic urchin]

I don’t think they need much of a rework, no more than any of the other strain

[bold crater]

It makes me wonder what their purpose was though. I mean it could also be medical but, unless unintended......what aspect of healing requires camouflaging?

Sounds fishy to me.

Could've pulled an Indominous and unknowingly grant stuff chromatophores

I kinda hope they go with the idea of making them insect-like.

All exoskeletal and twitchy

[rustic urchin]

Based on the little blurbs, tisso rex seemed to have accelerated cell replication

[bold crater]

Interesting, I would imagine that to be Hyperendocrin. Especially since long ago, the Anti-Hyper gun was said to stop cellular regeneration and thus, prevent them from Wolverining damage.

[rustic urchin]

Probably both I guess

[acoustic osprey]

Only know it's staying

[bold crater]

Can't imagine what else they could potentially replace as it's theme <:/

We got tank, mage, we just need rogue-gaaaaaaaasp

Necromancer

👍

[rustic urchin]

Lotta cells

[bold crater]

Hmm

I always liked the idea of them being vampiric Vampires heal fast, right 😛

Stealthy with a focus on debilitating prey.

A parasitic strain basically.

[rustic urchin]

I really just hope the general tisso vibe stay

Stealthy assasins, some biowarfare mixed in

[bold crater]

Mmmhm

It's a good dynamic between the other strains

Ye got the big brutish tanks
The frail but friggn' weird wizard lizards
Then the smaller but stealthier creeps

[rustic urchin]

Yea

[bold crater]

Any other playstyle just seems like it'd be a wasted opportunity

[rustic urchin]

especially since over the years I’ve seen more hype for tissos than any other strain

People saying they want tisso the most

[bold crater]

I want them to be that one strain that's just creepy. Like Neuros are creepy, but in a different way. They're more like when you watch a movie with a monster or alien and slowly realize just how smart it is. "Oh my god, how did it know to cut communications???"

But Tissos are just like "I do not like that thing I do not." Cryptid lanky spikey spastic stealth lizards

Speaking of Neuros and their intelligence.....do we know how smart they can be? Like could it be near-human?

I remember an old legacy loading screen saying to keep Utahraptor intelligence no higher than an average goat or something. Kinda makes me think it might be a struggle to keep stuff from getting too smart, and Neuros give me the vibe that they broke their limits.

[rustic urchin]

Old legacy screen said the most recent generation of utahs had hominid intelligence iirc

So I’d imagine neuros being human intelligence or higher

[bold crater]

Ominous

[maiden sundial]

Hard to comprehend how a neuro would think then. If they had thoughts beyond our own.

Make sense that they'd be inclined to have complex strategies

[bold crater]

What's really spooky is when you realize Neurotenics are kinda made to screw with humans, particularly in the form of EMPs which we know at least N-Spinosaurus can do.

So not only can they mess with us, but they can think like us

[maiden sundial]

And humans when they know they're better than an animal. Tend to get cruel...

But what would stop neuros from creating their own society on gateway?

[bold crater]

Probably whatever limiting factor they have which I don't think we know about. Similar to how Hyperendocrins will starve to death no matter what due to their ever increasing metabolism.

[maiden sundial]

Or any of the other islands for that matter

[bold crater]

I believe it was Kissen who mentioned all strains won't be permanent.

[maiden sundial]

Like limited time things? Or they just pop in from time to time

[bold crater]

Limited time. Something prevents them from reigning forever.

[maiden sundial]

Likely some form of in terms of neuros. Perhaps their brains are prone to aneurysms?

[bold crater]

Possibly. I've seen the idea of them basically getting "too smart". Like their brains just overload.

[maiden sundial]

Perhaps this makes them prone to aneurysms that kill them. Brains get to big and pop blood vessels.

[bold crater]

They take big brain time too literally

[maiden sundial]

That would be funny if true.

[acoustic osprey]

And talk like us

[maiden sundial]

Possibly. I'd imagine if they did they could join in on the human vc chat.

[acoustic osprey]

Well we know Echidna can

Especially to lure in others

[maiden sundial]

Oh? Echidna?

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[maiden sundial]

Never heard of it.

[acoustic osprey]

Neurotenic mastermind

Neuro Human
Mother of Cannibals (Tribals)

[maiden sundial]

Mother of the original tribals? Interesting...

[acoustic osprey]

Well, if you're referring to the Eyeless than no

[rustic urchin]

Kinda hope neuros and tissos limiting factor is just being relatively vulnerable

No normal dino will be able to jump a hyper rex and kill it, besides a sauropod. Just won’t happen

But a neuro Rex? Bet if a normal one got the jump it could take it out pretty easily

[hexed flax]

All neuros look like they have soft skin. On some of them you can even see their veins

[acoustic osprey]

From the concept art and Spino model, I'd say they have soft skin

[hexed flax]

Yeah and neuro spinos teeth look way too long and too thin. They are going to break if it tries to attack something with them. So their combat abilities are probably very bad

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[rustic urchin]

One paper cut and it’s all over

I wish I could find the source of original strain descriptions but it’s all indirect info now

Tried mirroring some of the words to see what they say

1997

[acoustic osprey]

🙂

[rustic urchin]

Now time to find out what George W Bush has to do with this

[rough totem]

President Bush

[pseudo fable]

That class has a name.

[fringe marsh]

rougeops

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/Kskh.gif

I hate that I laughed at it.

[short falcon]

Lol

[bold crater]

[bold crater]

That is much better than Rugoflauge

[fringe marsh]

we call it rougeops
it's got camo, which allows for stealth.
I didn't even think of that.

[bold crater]

[rapid chasm]

me

[rustic urchin]

biology man i need translations

the numbers mason

[acoustic osprey]

Yes ^

[fast adder]

lmao "the numbers mason" got me

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/16lJ.gif

[rustic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/what-do-they-mean-random-numbers-gif-10654449

[chrome acorn]

neuro Rex might be my favorite design ngl

[pseudo fable]

Neuro spino is my favorite, if only for an unreleased concept image Tap did a long while ago.

[chrome acorn]

neuro spino is definitely S tier as well

[bold crater]

N-Spino gives me Aliens Queen vibes and I love it

[chrome acorn]

he drinks people

[bold crater]

Depending on how Tissoplastic ends up being, I hope they go with Tapwing's T-Spino design. Sleek and sharp

Heck just go with all of em really, pure gold.

[bold crater]

Capri-Human

Wonder if they'll give N-Spino (or any Neuro I guess) that snow vision idea Tap's concept mentioned

Just passively messes with your head when too close.....like that gorilla thing in Metro Exodus. I think

[rustic urchin]

taps tisso spino is great one of my favs

wish we got a more updated tisso rex

[bold crater]

Rex and stealth do not bind together well to me 😛

[gentle vessel]

Good thing that a tisso rex ain’t a normal rex then

[bold crater]

He had too much hair gel

Would Tisso Rex be T-Rex or T-T-Rex!?

[pseudo fable]

T-Rex.

[bold crater]

"Guys look out! It's a T-Rex!"

"Wait wait wait.....is it a T-Rex or a T-Rex?"

[rustic urchin]

flashbacks to being ambushed by a rex in legacy

man that rodrigo vega hyper rex design is still so gnarly i love it so much

[bold crater]

Well.....yeah I guess there's ambushes

[rustic urchin]

legacy rex was scarily stealthy when it wanted to be

[gentle vessel]

It would be rad if tisso rex could spray smoke or mist from its jaws, make a massive smokescreen

[rustic urchin]

i gave that to tisso giga except the gas is toxic lol

or poisonous venomous whatever you want to call it, its bad for you

i liked taps tisso giga a fair bit

[bold crater]

It'd be poisonous. Venom is injected.

Tap's T-Giga is terrifying

[rustic urchin]

funny guy

[bold crater]

Squeeeeee

[gentle vessel]

To me with rex it makes more sense

Doesn’t have the speed, so uses stealth and obscuring vision

To sneak up, AND DESTROY

[fast adder]

Dondi if you see this, has audio lore been considered for Gateway?

Ex.) radio tower morse code on Spiro

[honest plover]

The tisso giga going on all 4s is just so scary to me

[icy onyx]

I NEED the lore behind these strains.

I wonder if herbivore strains are a thing

[rustic urchin]

based on what we can theorize rn, i dont really get why they wouldnt be

the old theory of the strains being weapons or whatever doesnt seem to hold much ground now

[icy onyx]

yeah. that was the main argument against herbivore strains.

[gentle vessel]

It could be that the strains don’t gel well with herbivores gene wise?

[fast adder]

So lore has been very spotty but, going off my previous comment, what do you think Gateway will show/tell us or even confirm about lore?

[rustic urchin]

well we know the term gateway is that its a gateway to tartarus

[icy onyx]

I mean… if Apollo Engineering managed to make carnivore dinosaur strains AND HUMAN strains I don’t see how that could be an issue

[rustic urchin]

and we know gateway has a guts system or at least will eventually

[fast adder]

And a ton more human structures from what we have seen.

[icy onyx]

Well, compared to other maps?

Gateway is probably going to be the most lore dense map out of them all.

I am loving this stage in The Isle lore

[acoustic osprey]

Hopefully

[gentle vessel]

Especially with the human element, since humans are coming in 6

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/friendly-yeti-monster-inc-disney-gif-17809648

[icy onyx]

ICE CREAM?

[acoustic osprey]

No, sorry

[icy onyx]

[rustic urchin]

welcome to the himalayas

[acoustic osprey]

coming

[acoustic osprey]

Yes!

[gentle vessel]

I still have my theory that the titans were grown with the strain in em from the start tbh

[fast adder]

Snow Cone?

[acoustic osprey]

The dotted lines in Network systems usually signify going underground

So...

[rustic urchin]

WELCOME TO TARTARUS

[acoustic osprey]

Depends, let's see

[gentle vessel]

They look, too clean to be just mutant tribals imo

Less like they changed from an adult form into em and more like it was something their dna already was used to imo

Also

Did anyone else notice the neuro rex art had a magnetic field round the head?

Like, that has to be what it is

Now I’m wondering, WHAT KIND OF MEDICINE ARE THEY MAKING FOR BRAINS THAT MAKES MAGNETIC FIELDS?!?

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

Albeit, it looked pretty funny

[gentle vessel]

It could lead to their powers in lore being less

Magic, and more extreme physics

[rustic urchin]

well weve known neuros do magnet stuff

EMPs

[gentle vessel]

Example, messing with brains, effect the nerves or tissues via sound or magnetic fields, albeit extreme ones

And heck, you can use electro magnetism to hand wave telekinesis stuff

Lift metal objects with a localized brain made electro magnet and toss it

[icy onyx]

Oh shi t you’re right

[gentle vessel]

I didn’t notice till today

But it’s there, and obvious as heck

[rustic urchin]

they def have some magnetic connection with this and their emp stuff

[gentle vessel]

Could it be linked to whatever is causing em to glow?

[rustic urchin]

maybe but thats probably just bioluminescence

they definitely have high energy

[gentle vessel]

Bioluminescence doesn’t usually make your blood glow

[rustic urchin]

are we sure their blood is glowing?

[gentle vessel]

Yet we see in neuro spino the veins along the neck and head GLOW

It’s faint, but it’s there

[rustic urchin]

may be something in their blood thats causing the glow

maybe something to do with the high energy theyre using, to do things like glow, effect magnetic fields, all that stuff. theyre def like living batteries or something

[icy onyx]

Bioluminescence communication would be real nice

[bold crater]

🍋

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/bl1yM.gif

Seeing some of you guess correctly gives me hope.

[fast adder]

https://tenor.com/view/holy-grail-monty-python-blessing-lord-god-gif-16492137

[bold crater]

Makes me think that they'd glow brighter when using more intensive abilities. Like if it could throw metallic objects via magnetism, heavier objects make it glow more since it'd be straining (heh) more.

[rustic urchin]

ye thats kinda what im thinking too, i also like the communication idea

[icy onyx]

I can’t think of any metabolic pathways which bioproducts would emit light

[rustic urchin]

these neuros are basically just big bundles of energy and their abilities are def reflective of that. higher brain function takes a lot of energy, interfering with magnetism and electricity does as well

[icy onyx]

There must be some though

There’s a infinite world of metabolite wonders to explore

I imagine Tisso strains having some weird metabolites that would account for tissue regeneration, for example

[rustic urchin]

this might be a reach but maybe the glowing stuff in their blood is the strain itself. the hypothetical virus or whatever microorganism that causes the neuro to be a neuro. when using more complex abilities the organisms glow?

[icy onyx]

Maybe even go further

Tissue regeneration? Tissue biogenesis

Cut a Tisso’s appendages and what a whole new Tisso generate from that loss limb

[icy onyx]

[bold crater]

Could also fit with AE making em for medical reasons. Regenerate lost limbs and damaged tissues.

[icy onyx]

Tisso Strain metabolites that inhibits development… ||and therefore aging.||

[bold crater]

Haha Tissoplastics can't reach elder haha

[icy onyx]

Eternally a juvenile organism

[bold crater]

With current juvie gameplay, the horror

[icy onyx]

That could account for Tisso’s relatively smaller size though, right?

[bold crater]

Perhaps that's why Tissos were originally smaller than their non-strain counterp-

[icy onyx]

Just speculating here

[bold crater]

Alright yeah yep you got it yep

[icy onyx]

[bold crater]

[icy onyx]

what a nice interchange of ideas

[rustic urchin]

tissos definitely seem to have something to do with advanced cell stuff

where hypers are more simplistic in that they just replicate and grow, tissos are more complex

[icy onyx]

Inject the tisso juice on DashArkMasta

[rustic urchin]

inject me with the strain

[icy onyx]

That’s a really nice thing to think about

Nice in the sense of gamer epicness

Not nice in the sense of MORALITY

[rustic urchin]

kinda like cephalopods how their skin and tissues can do a bunch of wacky stuff

[icy onyx]

Apollo Engineering moment

[rustic urchin]

its for a good cause :D

[icy onyx]

Cephalopods my beloved

[bold crater]

Chromatophores 🙂

https://tenor.com/view/octopus-camouflage-hide-cephalopod-ocean-gif-10932524

[rustic urchin]

also casually regrowing limbs

[icy onyx]

The next step from Tisso is an actinomorphous radiation

[rustic urchin]

and changing texture even

[bold crater]

Y E S

T-QUETZ T-QUETZ

[icy onyx]

Growing animals to be Bible accurate angels

[rustic urchin]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/393942416891052045/1037125041109868665/IMG_8555.gif

[bold crater]

Fun fact: The electrical disruptions are from it's method of flight.

Pretty sure at least

[rustic urchin]

idk if it was confirmed but yea lots of fanmade anatomy studies say that

[bold crater]

Ooooh.....imagine if Neurotenics did that.....

[rustic urchin]

the electric thing was inspired by knifefish like electric eels that do funny electrical stuff

[icy onyx]

electrocytes

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/bVeaP.gif

[bold crater]

[icy onyx]

OH YES.

Something that’s worth exploring is how do you guys think these strains will get their energy from?

[bold crater]

[pseudo fable]

You have A, B, and C.

Start crossing them.

[icy onyx]

WE CAN DO IT BOYS.

[bold crater]

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-day-gif-18564553

[fast adder]

[icy onyx]

First of all… I have a HUGE question

Which may lead us to more sensible outcomes

[bold crater]

[icy onyx]

Do ANY of these strains get their energy from… abiotic sources?

Like electricity, light energy, etcetera

[rustic urchin]

neuros maybe

doubt hypers do since their whole shtick is starving lol

[bold crater]

Neuros I can see siphoning electricity, yeah

[icy onyx]

Oh yeah, we very well know how Hypers get their energy

[bold crater]

Neuro: "I drain man-made objects of electricity!"
Tisso: "I use photons to thrive!"
Hyper: [M E A T]

[pseudo fable]

... define these.

[icy onyx]

OH BOY.

[icy onyx]

A, B and C

[rustic urchin]

this feels like being in one of those escape rooms and the worker on the speaker is trying to nudge you towards something lol

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/bLQfn.gif

[icy onyx]

For now, I think the discussion has been (for pragmatic reasons) limited to Types N, T and H

|| O ||

[bold crater]

Wonder if Type O-GOD you guessed again!

[icy onyx]

[bold crater]

I'm still wondering if O is even classified as a strain

Or if it's just it's own thing

[rustic urchin]

ok so were on the right tracks with energy sources being special

[icy onyx]

That is a @acoustic osprey question

[bold crater]

Loremaster Claw, yes

[icy onyx]

Three different energy sources, for God knows how many strains?

[rustic urchin]

i dont think we have any official O info besides the one quote

besides that its theories, like roboquetz

[icy onyx]

Honestly my guess is that abiotic energy is out of the equation

[bold crater]

I kinda doubt it's Quetzinator

[rustic urchin]

can maybe see neuros leeching off some generator or something thats about it

[bold crater]

Neuros just act like Half-Life Advisors and specifically drink spinal fluid

https://tenor.com/view/combine-sfm2-advisor-half-life-half-life2-gif-16683470

[icy onyx]

I can see some specific strains leaning towards humans. Definitely.

Either directly or indirectly.

[bold crater]

I'd imagine that's Neurotenics since they mess with electricity and have super, possibly human, intelligence

[icy onyx]

Yes

We can decode this

[bold crater]

They feed on something Gen 2s have to collect/gain access to.....maybe

Just kinda winging it ;o;

[rustic urchin]

absorbing electrical sources is my best guess

living batteries

[icy onyx]

Analyzing overall strain morphology could give us hints

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/401480390528729091/597269431235641345/latest.png

Neuro Spino is just my favorite

[rustic urchin]

thin skin may act as a better conductor? idk

heat conductor electrical conductor something like that

[icy onyx]

Needle like appendages

[rustic urchin]

or kinda like a cell membrane where some things can pass through the skin to be absorbed

[icy onyx]

What about its tongue?

That type of tongue is really good in uhm…

[bold crater]

This is highly interesting to me :3

[icy onyx]

Extracting liquids

[bold crater]

CSF

[icy onyx]

CSF??

[bold crater]

Cerebral Spinal Fluid

[icy onyx]

good soup

[bold crater]

https://tenor.com/view/mandalorian-baby-yoda-soup-gif-19333548

[icy onyx]

||”That guy had some algae in his CSF”||

[bold crater]

[icy onyx]

Primary amoebic meningoencephalitis

Is this the lower and upper jaw?

[rustic urchin]

https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/MMxqy5SB3jAkOxz31AcMOAsWFTuHX6v-O6KJy2pNSLQ/%3Fimw%3D5000%26imh%3D5000%26ima%3Dfit%26impolicy%3DLetterbox%26imcolor%3D%2523000000%26letterbox%3Dfalse/https/steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/913547533756789148/84EF36C167B325C1E6B194CDEAFFC6F02FA8CF5A/

[pseudo fable]

You know, I could go for a writing prompt.

What kind of lore papers would you all like to see? Might give me something to work with tonight. 🤔

[rustic urchin]

im very biased towards anything on firearms even though i doubt theyre super relevant to the story

[icy onyx]

I was looking for that! Thanks

[rustic urchin]

i found the gif but my monkey brain doesnt know how to share it without it becoming a still image

[icy onyx]

Failed investigations.

Experimental error reports

[rustic urchin]

lore papers on dinosaur related incidents, "map" elements, or strains would be cool prompts

ben

[icy onyx]

Also… how where individuals/specimens selected?

[pseudo fable]

Core lore point. Can't do that one.

[icy onyx]

OOMF.

[rustic urchin]

top image is upperjaw i think, lower image i think is a cross section

[rustic halo]

Some sort of containment breach incident?

[icy onyx]

So maybe just one specific scene?

‘Selected’ as a euphemism to getting annexed to the research projects of AE

[icy onyx]

291

[rustic halo]

What does this mean

[pseudo fable]

You'll need to be more specific.

[rustic urchin]

would be cool to learn about the "sweep teams" that get sent out like in the case of the poor guy in that last incident report

[rustic urchin]

291 is the dude in the last paper

[rustic halo]

Oh

[rustic urchin]

one of the sweep teams didnt return

[icy onyx]

A very specific scene that relates to how an individual or a specimen gets annexed to an AE program or investigation.

Side note: ‘individual/specimen’ because I don’t know if AE has human experimenting out of their agenda.

How did X organism (example: a human or a non human animal) get recruited for Y program (example: Apollo Engineering ‘strain program’)

[rustic urchin]

like for example why did they choose specific dinosaurs?

[icy onyx]

Yes. Or specific humans.

[rustic halo]

They chose allosaurus to have an outlier

[icy onyx]

What were the requirements; what was the chain of events that lead to the selection; what were the effects reported on that specific Experimental Unit

do they have a name for the FIRST ever Experimental Unit (human/dinosaur in this case) that went through, let’s say, a strain program?

[rustic urchin]

i like to think minmi was chosen by AE because someone at the company liked minmi a lot

[rustic halo]

The CEO’s 5 year old daughter thought minmi was cute

[icy onyx]

Case report: Experimental Unit N-00001

[rustic urchin]

a perfectly understandable reason

would be cool to see the thinking of like, why certain dinos were picked for strain testing tho

rex, giga, spino, carno, quetz, utah

[icy onyx]

yes

[rustic urchin]

ironically some of the most dangerous ones ended up being chosen

[pseudo fable]

I love that you all went towards animal selection.

[icy onyx]

or why did they choose a certain person

[rustic urchin]

what made John "Cake" Evrima such a good candidate

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/biuy4.gif

[rustic halo]

They needed to see the dinosaur’s reaction to the supersonic clap of his cheeks

[pseudo fable]

You're just missing the 'n' from that thought.

Tack it on the end.

[rustic halo]

Candidaten ?

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/o2UM.gif

[icy onyx]

[pseudo fable]

John Evriman.

King of the no-unique-features.

[rustic urchin]

evriman for himself

idk John Evrima is absolutely jacked tho

[icy onyx]

The ethnically ambiguous

[rustic urchin]

ig thats just the gen2 standard

[pseudo fable]

I'm still taking this one.

And not in the direction you're thinking.

And probably not in a direction you'll like.

[icy onyx]

focusing that on human artificial selection or even just recruiting permits a way more somber story line

i love it

[rustic halo]

Did AE hold a hunger games to choose or something

[rustic urchin]

"IM GOING TO THE ISLAND"

[pseudo fable]

Great film, but no.

[neon mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-and-the-chocolate-factory-golden-ticket-gif-4754538

[icy onyx]

And not in the direction you're thinking.

[rustic urchin]

so its not a lottery system then

probably just did physical and mental testing and picked the most average scorers

[pseudo fable]

Actually, it is a lottery that everyone plays. You have no choice in it. The numbers are selected for you, at random.

[icy onyx]

The blank canvas

[pseudo fable]

And when you are chosen, AE follows.

[rustic halo]

As in, surveillance? Watching somebody they chose?

[pseudo fable]

That is canon. You can mark it down for interpretation but it wouldn't be too ambiguous.

[rustic urchin]

so the gen2 candidates are somewhat chosen randomly, and then AE yoinks you for testing once you win (lose)

[icy onyx]

You have been promoted.

[acoustic osprey]

Likely a variant
Who knows

[acoustic osprey]

Man, there is both soo much that comes to mind and soo much of nothing

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/LeQ3.gif

[agile gorge]

Would be cool to see what happened when the humans made first contact with the dinos or however that happened, im not caught up lore wise

[golden raven]

https://youtu.be/lDUbJNB9G_k

[rustic urchin]

It’s a Jurassic park scenario basically, the humans resurrected the dinosaurs

Also finally got it

[acoustic osprey]

Honestly, I'm pretty curious on if there is anything more "modern"

If that exists. Still pretty unsure on when we play on, compared to when AE seemed more active.

[slow delta]

how about a map?

[knotty locust]

WOOO! WHO WON THE LOTTERY, YEAH I DID! JUST SMELL THAT AIR! DOESNT IT SMELL JUST LIKE BOOZE NAHAHAHA

[acoustic osprey]

A facility map would be alright

Excluding that we already have a Network diagram

Nothing like a map map for Gateway. Don't need one, as that's more of an art thing anyways. Not written

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/1984-gif-19260546

You are now Gen 2

[slow delta]

could be a map of the archipelago, or a single island or a single facility. just anything with a bit of substance would be great in my books

[acoustic osprey]

Anything but an actual map of Gateway

[slow delta]

maybe something that could be posterized and sold as merch?

[acoustic osprey]

A poster of something like the Network diagram we got would be fun

[rustic urchin]

Would be cool for in game mercs to literally just pull out a paper map of the island and that’s their navigation

[dusky valley]

How does type h work?

[knotty locust]

endocrine system is enhanced and extremely strained

more muscles, very fast metabolism resulting in extreme hunger

[gentle vessel]

Your growth, healing and metabolism is cranked up

Issue is, the rest of ya wasn’t designed to handle that

So it could be neat if hypers had like, delayed attacks or weird twitches due to the strained nervous tissues

[plucky sundial]

Built in lag

[gentle vessel]

Well ye, think about it

The nervous system of these critters was designed for much smaller stuff, so had a reaction time built for that, making the animals bigger strains it, adds distance so makes the time to react longer

[rustic urchin]

id hope to see more consequences of massive metabolism

https://tenor.com/view/attack-on-titan-colossal-titan-gif-25243185

straight steam coming off them sometimes due to sheer heat exhaust

[plucky sundial]

Can somebody please test this in real life to fact check this

[gentle vessel]

It happens with people with gigantism

Like the worlds tallest man before he died said his hands and feet felt numb

[rustic urchin]

yea let me inject an elephant with an endocrin-enhancing virus

[gentle vessel]

Since he was like, 9 feet tall when our nervous systems are designed to fit a 5-6 foot person

[plucky sundial]

Good, I was about to make my chihuahua to the size of a wolf.

So the builtin lag would actually make sense

[gentle vessel]

Ye

[plucky sundial]

Dondi, 500 ping hypos when?

[gentle vessel]

And would make em a bit more of a challenge to play and learn to use, vs just normal Dino play but more damage and health

[plucky sundial]

And hungry

[gentle vessel]

But that would also have benefits, aka, slower pain response

[rustic urchin]

before h-rex remodel when people were asking "if hyper spino and giga have their specialised jaws doing unique things, what does rex do?"

i had the idea of hyper rex being able to just source that metabolic heat into parts of its jaws to superheat its bite lol

thousand degree knife but on a dinosauer

[gentle vessel]

No that’s dumbo

[sand seal]

That’s pretty dumbo.

That is a CRAZY amount of energy to heat up bone.

[gentle vessel]

The closest you can get to that is like, steam from the jaws? But even that is kinda dumb

[fathom quartz]

hey guys quick question what does phoenix corp have to do with the isle isnt it from primal carnage?

[rustic urchin]

idea was to BS sci fi stuff to allow its teeth/armor to withstand and achieve high temperatures basically

which yea hard to explain but more or less in line with strains in general

[fathom quartz]

does it even have anything to do with the isle im starting to have doubts

[icy onyx]

Nothing anymore

Two separate universes

I’m still thinking of the metabolite resources of strains

[fathom quartz]

the what

[icy onyx]

But anyways, were there any conclusions drawn from yesterday’s discussion?

[fathom quartz]

u mean the metabolism of strains or summit

[icy onyx]

Neuros having sort of sucking-piercing mouth parts could account for a certain type of foods?

[fathom quartz]

isnt that only the spino?

[icy onyx]

Good question

[fringe marsh]

?

[icy onyx]

The thing is, we’re trying to ‘match’ different energy sources to the three strains we know about

[chrome acorn]

The human slushinator is only on the neuro spino as far as we know

[stone crater]

Though it being on the Echidna would be pretty neat.

“So THAT’S what that orifice does”

Be interesting, then, if Neuros could only sustain themselves off of LIVING animals, needing specifically to hunt their food rather than scavenge

[fathom quartz]

sources? wdym

do you mean different types of energy or something they can produce?

[icy onyx]

Sources which give them energy

[short falcon]

I have hypothesis

This game has lore

[acoustic osprey]

Best and most accurate hypothesis there is

[icy onyx]

You have been promoted

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[opal arrow]

yeh i’m thinking about the same thing, i would expect different strains to seek out energy differently based on a number of factors ✨

just like all animals in the wild, feeding method could vary widely depending on individual body type/physical features, natural & learned behavior, available food sources, environmental pressures, competition from other predators, food chain niches, and a ton of other things i’m sure! 🦕🦖🐊

strains with higher metabolic demand might have to target sources that are much more nutrient-rich or high in specific nutrients (ex. burning thru a lot of lipids). would be interesting to see if they also had to resort to omnivorous behavior in some cases to supplement certain vitamins/minerals to make up for high metabolic strain and organ workload, or maybe something along the lines of having to eat clay or certain behaviors to detox due to high lactic acid production in the body/toxin buildup or something. idk just thinking about a ton of stuff that could factor in 🦎

[acoustic osprey]

Hypers should die from starvation

I don't think Hypers, especially them, to survive long

[bold crater]

Neuros become JELLY-no I don't know what they'd die from. Brain overload?

[acoustic osprey]

Tissos and Neuros, in my opinion, don't need to die the same way your average Hyper would die

Especially Neuros.
Likely have really soft skin tissue. They're strong but defenceless physically

[rustic urchin]

^

One rex ambush and all that work is over

[bold crater]

I just remember something either by Punch or Kissen I think mentioning how all strains will have something that keeps them from being permanent. And I know things like Neurotenics are physically frail, but that doesn't actually prevent them from being permanent as it requires something to kill them

Whereas Hypers die out on their own

[cinder shoal]

Well, strains will have to face things eventually, just like all dinos. Plus, if strains need some specific food source, then that puts them at an increased risk.
Lets take neuros for example, say they need something like living organisms or electricity, that would put them in a lot of danger while getting their food to survive, since they are coming into contact with a LOT of dinos and humans. Since they are already physically vulnerable, makes them limited by the player's skill and luck.

Potentially, they can also make you need more and more of whatever resource the longer you live. So that eventually, you will die. The question is though, how long can you sustain it?

[hexed flax]

The ability of the neuros is probably what kills them. Lets take N-Spino for example. Creating an EMP field with your brain can't be healthy. It will probably start to fry after a few uses

[opal arrow]

maybe the fast growth & rapid cell division of hypers/larger strains would make them prone to cancers

cancers & other genetic defects/harmful mutations could alternatively be an issue for all strains in general due to their genetic tampering & overload 🧬

[acoustic osprey]

Starvation

[opal arrow]

yes we keep saying that lol let’s explore more than one single aspect/theory

for example, the neuros could be more prone to neurological disorders such as epilepsy that could hinder them when involved with confirmed game assets like the the large and undoubtedly VERY bright spotlights/floodlights 💥 the humans will have (just as an offhand idea)

[icy onyx]

Tisso Strains tissue biogenesis means young tissues forever 👹

[opal arrow]

hmmm… makes me wonder if maybe they’ll be stuck in some form of “adolescent” state even as adults, at least speaking biochemically. perhaps with the associated “raging hormones” that might cause unpredictable behavior/hyper-aggression that could disrupt their stealthy hunting style. a moody, impatient tisso that has to be worked into a perfect assassin- a skill barrier to balance things out just like with the other strains

[fathom quartz]

so are tissos the best built strain or what?

because well yall said that neuros have very soft tissues and hypos die of starvation easily

[strange shell]

Tissos are being redesigned
So far they were smaller and weaker than the regular animal

[fathom quartz]

thats harsh

[fathom quartz]

what strain even is the nyctatyrannus?

[carmine marsh]

the nyctatyrannus isn't official, it's a mod anthmonia and his server "isla nycta" plan to have onces modding is available.

[fathom quartz]

ik just what would it be

[carmine marsh]

it's own strain made specifically for isla nycta.

[fathom quartz]

oh....

[carmine marsh]

hence nyctatyrannus

[fathom quartz]

yeah good point

[gentle vessel]

Well they are smaller due to them having venom and speed and such, at least before the rework

[fathom quartz]

do we have any official models yet?

[gentle vessel]

No

And the only tisso art that’s official is the old vega tisso rex art and the reaper art

[fathom quartz]

that does look good but not that stealthy

actually nevermind

[rustic urchin]

There was also an old tisso raptor but it’s so old that it was marked as deinonychus lol

[acoustic osprey]

"official"

[gentle vessel]

More official than taps stuff on tissos

[acoustic osprey]

Dubiously official

Till reconfirmed with something new

At least tissos they still will exist

[icy onyx]

^

[slow delta]

Ok boys, how about we look back at some older lore to kill our boredom? The old menu screen had this global radar and I marked all the regions where pings appeared.

I think the central blue dot is Algeria but we never tried to figure out the red dots. Who wants to have a crack at it?

[muted hill]

I thought it was dig site where they found the dinosaur fossils? The old dossiers well some have the names of where species were acquired from

[chrome acorn]

candidates

[rustic urchin]

Could be anything really. Servers, headquarters, countries they’re in dealings with, etc

[slow delta]

probably, but there could be a correlation

[rustic urchin]

They got an awful lot of pings in Greenland

Not much going on up there usually so that limits a few theories, like it can’t be fossil sites probably

Can narrow it down based on the more obscure pings

[chrome acorn]

there’s two dots in what looks like Colorado and Kansas

[acoustic osprey]

Geraldton and Meekatharra (?)
In Australia

[muted hill]

The one in the UK looks like Scarbrough or York

[acoustic osprey]

Geraldton is known for having Ozraptor dug near it

[slow delta]

i have tried overlaying parts of the map but its hard cause of the radar curvature and distortion

probably gonna have to eyeball it

[acoustic osprey]

noting that this is likely during the 90s

[rustic urchin]

I don’t think it’s places Dino’s have been dug up

[chrome acorn]

it could just be AE facilities

[rustic urchin]

Maybe

[chrome acorn]

If this specific radar map is still relevant

[rustic urchin]

They got an odd fond of building stuff in Greenland

[chrome acorn]

not many people

[acoustic osprey]

freeze zones

[rustic urchin]

I guess yea nobodies there to witness shady stuff

Also could explain why there’s hardly anything going on in eurasia

[mystic rivet]

Maybe they r just random like is the loading screen confirmed to mean anything

[chrome acorn]

the second dot in South America almost looks like it’s in the middle of the Amazon

[rustic urchin]

Honestly probably

[slow delta]

the radar is going around pinging real time locations all over the world, its probably servers or something but i dont think you can ping so fast and multiple sites at once like a radar

[slow delta]

obviously

[chrome acorn]

And there’s one dot in Chile in the mountains

[acoustic osprey]

😃

The dots likely had no meaning

[mystic rivet]

That’s wat I think

[chrome acorn]

Still fun

[slow delta]

lets see what old stuff we can dig up since dondi trolled us

i do have this old screenshot from a super bright "star" in the sky, never led to anything

[fast adder]

I don't think so either but it seems that they are near major cities? Doesn't mean anything but if i had to guess that's what they are

[acoustic osprey]

not really? Besides NYC

[rustic urchin]

Ik people functionally used it as the North Star and found north with it when it rained

[acoustic osprey]

Pretty much

[livid shard]

The developers are stoned with the Lore lol

If you want to know the beginning of all the lore, we should know the intentions of creating dinosaurs

Until the cold war could have been involved in this project, I mean, how long in the world would it have taken them to manipulate the genetic code to make it more like the dinosaurs of the past?

It is obvious that they did not want to create a stupid park for children, For me the reasons for this development could be: The Cold War, Genetic Experimentation, Weapons, Even though it may sound crazy it could be for beauty and even medical purposes, For me it was It is more likely that it was for weapons or medicinal reasons, Nobody would pay Billions to manipulate the genetic code and make it as similar to dinosaurs to study them.

maybe yes but, They're already studying da fossils

[rustic urchin]

We know that at least some of their motive is medical purposes

[livid shard]

And above all this could explain notable differences between the beings of more than 66 million years ago and the monstrous and colorful penguins of today (in the game obviously lol)

[livid shard]

yes

[acoustic osprey]

Highly likely it's mostly Medicinal reasons

[bold crater]

I want
Dino
Bandaids

....get it, because AE....dinos.....medical reasons....

Anyways, I am very eager to know more about this whole medical reasons thing. I am glad they aren't doing "raaah evil company"

A part of me wonders if medical reasons could possibly be the initial reasoning and maybe it's kind of "evolved" now into something else.

Like "We started for [X] reason but as we experimented, we discovered this stuff and went down another path", ya know?

Doubtful, but an interesting thought

[sterile fossil]

Hello

ok bye

[mystic rivet]

Bye

[upper axle]

what if the hypo colossus was a human that got injected with the hyperindocrin gene and a bit of deinosuchus dna

[hexed flax]

I doubt that the hyper colossus would be covered in fur if it had Deino dna. But there has to be something else in it. Just the hyper modification wouldn't make it grow as tall as a sauropod

[acoustic osprey]

It's definitely a human

[upper axle]

yea but what if it was engineered that way

[gentle vessel]

My theory on colossus

Is that a gEn 1 embryo in growth was injected with the hyper strain and dna from theropods. Possibly rex and spino

[dull dock]

Is dit discord van ISAE

?

[acoustic osprey]

It might just be the Hyper Strain itself emphasising it's size

[gentle vessel]

Issue there is, from what we see with the dinosaurs

[acoustic osprey]

Unless we know other strains used dna from other dinos, wouldn't make sense that they did so for Colossus

[gentle vessel]

I think they might’ve

Because echidna has the very Dino esc claws, reapers EVERYTHING seems animal sourced

[acoustic osprey]

We just need to see their redesigns, if any.
But yeah, who knows

[gentle vessel]

Also in regards to this

Most hypers when mutated from the base get like, bigger, but not to the scale colossus is

[acoustic osprey]

Depends.
Have to see the kg size of Evrima Rex and Evrima H-Rex

compared to Gen 2/1 to Colossus

[safe ravine]

the purpose of that was to tell direction before there was a compass

[acoustic osprey]

And now we have a funny compass where you can see North and South on the compass despite it not being over 180 FOV

[bold crater]

Could be cool if Tissoplastic ended up being vampiric in a way I mean T-Reaper was basically a man bat. Why not ye know kinda roll with that but make it 100x better? :3

Would also fit with them being smaller than their non-strain counterparts. You're smaller and physically weaker, but siphon off of stuff like a parasite.

Big focus on blood of course. And "AE doing strains for medical reasons" wise, could be similar to Bilbo's biogenesis theory.

Finding ways to alter blood to be uh.....better?

[gentle vessel]

Blood cancers, getting rid of genetic diseases like sickle cell disease

[bold crater]

Aye

Plus I am just trying to find ways to justify a vampiric strain because it's really cool

So it could be like a strain that is inherently quite weak, but has potential to be uh....how do I word it....

"Spookier than the skeleton inside you" stronger

But it has to play like a parasite

🪲

T-Gigas just peeling your skin off with their weird teeth and maybe a toxin of sorts

[rustic urchin]

Morbius tisso

[bold crater]

https://tenor.com/view/key-and-peele-disappointed-head-shake-gif-15018265

[icy onyx]

Type M

Type Mortem

[bold crater]

Gone.

I still wonder if we can play as the humanoid strain things in any capacity. Even if it's just sandbox or mods enabling them.

......would they even be in the game in the first place??

I mean they have art.

It'd be a shame if such epic creatures were only names.

[icy onyx]

Lots of questions that cannot be answered without a stupid amount of assumptions

[bold crater]

;O;

Could be interesting if they were world bosses, similar to other strains. A player achieves one somehow and has them for X amount of time.

[upper axle]

wdym world bosses

like fights?

[bold crater]

Was kind of a bad word for em, but basically like how dino strains are where they ULTRA rare and similar to a boss

[upper axle]

oh you're saying the player is the boss?

or like strains are overpowered enough to be counted as "bosses"

[bold crater]

Second one yeah 😛 Not like an actual dungeon boss with a floating HP bar 😛

Just that a strain is so rare and powerful that it's effectively like a boss

[chrome acorn]

I wonder if there’s anyone in the lore who almost excelled in surviving the island/islands

[acoustic osprey]

Good question

I guess we'll have to see if we'll get something akin to an incident report, but isn't a report for an incident.
But more so a survival note/diary, if there have been any survivors from the original events

[chrome acorn]

a journal from someone’s experiences would be very

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah.

the Incident Report about 291 was amazing, and got a lot of people interested.
Something similar, like a ripped page from a survivors journal WOULD be cool

and especially any references to them on any of the islands would be very cool

[chrome acorn]

Yea even just like a summary of a day of surviving would be very neat

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah. Anything.

But still, something more "modern" (if you'd call it that) would be cool

[chrome acorn]

Or like a Gen 1 who kept a journal as they slowly lost their mind

[acoustic osprey]

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[chrome acorn]

[icy onyx]

Why are they on the island

[opal arrow]

my guess would be a combination of reasons. probably pharmaceutical and genetic research combined with black market profit.

whatever the reason, they must be backed by some serious money to build & create all of that. the technology alone needed to bring back dinos would cost an INSANE amount of investment. it would also probably require a bunch of genius-level scientists to run things successfully.

whoever is behind it all has a huge wealth of resources- be it a massive pharmaceutical company or whoever, and probably some extremely rich private investors as well. (i would love it if some crazy billionaire dude who was obsessed with dinos was funding all of this 😂)

i would guess that the entire operation is being run highly illegally. the fact that our gun-toting humans are labeled as “mercenaries” and not “soldiers” heavily implies that this is not the military running these facilities and the experiments going on within. another key point is the lack of organization- broken down & abandoned facilities, escaped dinosaurs freely breeding in the wild, the presence of tribals, etc… if this were being done by a major world government, they would likely be running a much tighter and more “official” operation.

this would explain why the experiments are being run on such a remote island- aside from attempts to containment & control the assets- to hide the going-ons that would be very very very much against the law.

[bold crater]

Mercenaries is not a canon name actually, that's made up by the community

😅

[opal arrow]

i still like the idea of it being an illegal operation. i think the military would have the tribals cleared out and everything much more set up. seems like an independent and probably very secret operation being run with illegally acquired goods and technologies.

[bold crater]

Yeah I don't really see much of this being legal

I like the whole idea of them making prehistoric creatures to test on since "extinct animals have no rights".

[opal arrow]

it would explain the limited amount of supplies the mercenaries seem to have to scramble around for. the military would be better supplied for such an undoubtedly costly operation.

i doubt much of it would even be public knowledge to begin with. people would likely go nuts if they knew dinos were being brought back and so poorly controlled. on top of that, many of the assets and certainly the strains would be considered as biological weapons and probably immediately banned & ordered destroyed by world governments.

[acoustic osprey]

AE is just a side-branch of the US Government for Experimental Medicine 😎

[bold crater]

"Fool.....they ordered me to do it."

[opal arrow]

i did not know that but explains a lot 😂

[acoustic osprey]

(Just don't be confused by the name Mercenaries, as they're not Mercs)

[acoustic osprey]

just a fools theory
Have to explain it somehow till we get some better info on the "backing" of AE

[opal arrow]

my bad lol i’m just getting into the isle community and i’m still getting grips on all the lore 🦖✨

[acoustic osprey]

And it'd explain why no one cares about them using Dinosaurs- noting that there were no laws against doing such things

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/simpson-gif-25340727

[opal arrow]

working under the gov just makes it that much more terrifying for the people actually running the operations & managing data- if you’re a scientist or technology specialist or whatever and they even remotely think you might sell out or whistleblow- you were prolly getting fed to the dinos lol

[bold crater]

They're gonna send you into the morphogenic engine progr-wait....wrong game.

Still spooky.

[acoustic osprey]

You said something to your family about the job?
I guess you're time to be a Tribal then

Although, we know AE isn't "Generic Evil Corporation"

So just stay in the mindset that it's a "Grey Company"

[bold crater]

Brain goes into dino Everyone remember that theory

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/god-of-war-kratos-punching-take-that-gif-20443294

[bold crater]

[opal arrow]

i was literally thinking that 😂 one minute you’re working in the lab, next thing you know you’re waking up naked in the middle of the jungle with a pounding headache

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[quartz sundial]

reminds me of outlast: whistleblower, where you end up one of the test patients cuz u tried telling the media about what was going on

[icy onyx]

who would win, the indomitable human spirit or an island?

the indomitable human spirit or a small positive land formation surrounded by water

@rustic halo

[open pewter]

Man ur so smart

Just read ur entire explanation

[icy onyx]

I actually loved this response

[icy onyx]

what?

[acoustic osprey]

just a fools theory
Have to explain it somehow till we get some better info on the "backing" of AE

[icy onyx]

👍

[acoustic osprey]

I was joking about it on-stream yesterday.
Honestly, it being government-branched would explain how it's being backed.

But it being linked with the "black market" isn't bad as well

Just please don't put Malta in it 👍

[short falcon]

Which government? American?

[acoustic osprey]

Likely, yes.

[short falcon]

Or what about the un

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-discussion

https://tenor.com/view/mike-forklift-mike-ehrmantraut-finger-kid-named-finger-gif-26560518

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/bWtqJ.gif

[rustic halo]

the cold cruelty of the isle when exposed to the indomitable human spirit

[opal arrow]

disclaimer: most of the time i have no idea what i’m talking about 🙃 i’m just shooting in the dark in regards to anything i say about The Isle lore theory, which i’m still very much learning because i’m new to the community (i literally just bought my first gaming pc a few weeks ago solely to play The Isle after i saw the game and fell in love with it 🐊💕)

ok so idea revolving around the neuros and pharmaceutical research- i very much think this specific strain may have been developed, at least in part, to explore potential treatments and cures for Parkinson’s.

there are two reasons behind why i think this could be possible. 🦖✨

1. for this first one i cannot go into too much detail due to actual legal patenting and conf. reasons, because it’s something still actively being developed, but a company my dad works with is prototyping a device that uses tiny electro-magnetic signals (basically tiny EMP of a sort) sent locally throughout the body to regulate the electrical signals that are being misfired through the nerves/muscles and causing the convulsions. this is an “external” treatment for Parkinson’s and could explain the presence of EMP as well as such a highly developed nervous system found in the neuros, since their supposedly more “squishy” build would make them less viable to be used in combat situations (aside from EMP-based assaults, potentially).

2. I study biological medicine (molecular cell biology) related to new genetic editing technologies like CRISPR, which are also actively working on “internal” cures for disorders like Parkinson’s. neuros could be a result of some of this genetic experimentation. irl they’re doing it in frogs right now. 😂 for example- they have super jacked muscle frogs (result of genetic therapy applied to genes associated with muscle growth and metabolic regulation, etc.) which also makes me think of the hypers lol 🐸💪

[rustic halo]

The isle in real life !!

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/o6CW.gif

[opal arrow]

basically lol 🤣 the only thing barring further development irl is political restrictions on how far scientific research & trials can go on it (meant to prevent “playing god” but all it really does usually is slow down/halt important medical research 🙃)

would i maybe use it one day to create a jurassic park scenario if i was the one leading the projects? well. don’t worry about that. don’t worry about it until zEe is the one leading the projects. this is the main reason these restrictions exist. to prevent jurassic-park scenarios 🦕✨

[acoustic osprey]

Well, anything related to the word Neuro is good enough for me

Mostly as it's most sensical. Likely giving the entity emphasised intelligence, which is what it seems to be with Echidna? Likely, maybe not

[icy onyx]

That’s why biologists need rigorous ethical training

[acoustic osprey]

of course, why have limitations

https://tenor.com/view/oops-jack-lemmon-professor-fate-the-great-race-stare-gif-18029909

[rustic urchin]

Now I’m imagining Parkinson’s patients having neuro therapy Dino’s lol

Bring in the neuro rex to the hospital and have its emps regulate nerve impulses

[modern rover]

"this is my therapy animal"
neuro spino roars, blacking out 10 storeys worth of hospital floors and killing potentially dozens of patients
"his name is micheal he likes fish"

[icy onyx]

[rustic urchin]

Give it a service animal vest

[icy onyx]

I love neuro Spino so much

slurp

[pine nimbus]

"Don't worry, Sugar Plumps is an angel, she's not dangerous."

their "angel"

[low scarab]

are strains comfirmed for evrima yet?

[quartz sundial]

I think they’re slated to come eventually but not for a long time

[cinder shoal]

I’m 90% sure they are.

[bold crater]

Do we have any theories as to what Hyperendocrins could've been tested for in terms of medical reasons? 😮 May need a refresh on that

[chrome acorn]

Tissue regeneration is my guess

Regrowing limbs or healing internal injuries

[bold crater]

Perhaps. I would've assumed that was Tissoplastics due to one of their old papers mentioning something about cell growth increasing. Bilbo had come up with the theory of biogenesis for em.

[chrome acorn]

Could be to create a more robust immune system in humans

[bold crater]

Well.....actually now that I think of it, it's literally in the name Prolly deals with the endocrin system.

[chrome acorn]

I mean it could literally be some kind of steroid

that just overcharges your metabolism

[opal arrow]

my bad, went back to sleep after posting my neuros thing lol 🦕💤

so let’s start with hypers. disclaimer: i am SLEEPY and OUT OF TEA and this is just coming off the top of my head there could be a number of pharmaceutical reasons behind their development. i’ll name the top few more obvious.

first, let’s take a look back at the genetic editing work we’re currently doing on frogs with systems like CRISPR. 🐸 disappears shortly after writing this

like i mentioned before, we have super cut muscle frogs that we’ve made. these were created via “gene therapy” for a number of reasons.

1. first being that these musculoskeletal and metabolic genes were relatively simple to target and therefor a good starting point in exploring what the technology can do in the first place. they were the first prototype of what i will now call strain frogs. hyper frogs were the easiest to create, so we started there.

2. hope to create treatments/cures for degenerative diseases. there are many diseases that effect the musculoskeletal system and effectively cause it to wither and lose function other time, which we refer to as degenerative diseases. many of these diseases are hereditary and therefor have potential to be treated genetically both in the womb before birth, and in developed adults via ongoing gene therapy. (some diseases like polio are different but also have hope to be treated with these genetic therapies because they can be applied to full adults which makes them very unique in potential to treat and reverse pre-existing conditions.) so think pharmaceutical applications like saving people like stephen hawking, or having babies that would’ve been born deformed born healthy instead due to in-utero genetic therapy.

3. treatment of metabolic/endocrine disorders such as thyroid disorders, genetic diseases related to growth & hormone regulation, etc. really a wide range of disorders you’re looking at when it comes to the endocrine system and all the things in the body it regulates. this one is very loaded.

4. creation of super soldiers this one is probably the most obvious and also the one that starts to cross ethical and medical lines. also self-explanatory. ✨

[void apex]

I feel like 1 - 3 are the most likely

[opal arrow]

keep in mind, whatever strain it be, it takes an ENORMOUS amount of factors and resources to even create a living and stable animal that has altered DNA 🧬

there could be a thousand reasons behind the creation of each animal, worth billions a piece. more likely trillions. we’re talking insane amounts of money and probably some of the strictest muzzle orders on the planet.

[void apex]

and probably overall general improvements to humanity, since that seems to be what AE focuses on. Making humanity better by playing god.

[acoustic osprey]

Hence why the Mighty O is here to save us

[chrome acorn]

what are the Os Mason

What do they mean

[acoustic osprey]

I presume each strain has their own faults
Like how H's are very unsustainable

[void apex]

It feels... sorta out of pocket for AE to create weapons of mass destruction or something heavily implied to be used militarily now that we know more about them

to create super soldiers... well... they already kinda have

and that went as it did, with the Gen1 and eyeless

[acoustic osprey]

especially if they're doing it mostly on Dinosaurs lol

But yeah, Gen 1 and 2
Man playing God, quite fun.

Seeing as Apollo is very medicine-based.
Could be a lot of things on why make them

[opal arrow]

this is more of just the public fear when it comes to use of this specific genetic editing technology, more than anything. in most cases we want to just use it for pharmaceutical purposes, but people are scared that we’re going to use it to create weapons of mass destruction or super soldiers.

[void apex]

fair

[acoustic osprey]

It's fair.
If they work with the black market, easily can see them selling them for "Medicinal reasons"
When in reality the buyer is using it as a weapon

[opal arrow]

what i would LOVE to see for the isle is a focus more on pharmaceutical research vs bioweaponry. i want to see the humans interacting with the animals on a deeper level than just “point and shoot” which is what it always devolves into when it comes to military application of animals. i want to see the humans handle the dinosaurs like the valuable assets they are, tracking and studying them and running experiments instead of just running around the jungle trying to gun them down like a bunch of triggerhappy jarheads. 🤦

[acoustic osprey]

if there are any military applications in this game

not to confuse Gen 2s with their misleading unofficial name "Mercenaries"

Which was what they were many many years back

Ah, you're just talking about the guns in general

[void apex]

I mean the only thing close to military is the gear the humans left at the islands

[acoustic osprey]

yeah, from the trailers we've seen.
AE are definitely not sending in Gen 2s to kill their product

AE have taken some sort of "recent" interest in surveillance of their long lost islands

[opal arrow]

i pray the devs take this in a cooler direction like that. i’m tired of dinosaur games where the humans are just hunting the dinos with big guns like it’s a brainless game hunt. i want to see something different. something more. something that feels like a gritty, realistic version of jurassic world gone off the rails.

[acoustic osprey]

I believe they have said their priority isn't to point and shoot

(as if it was TheHunter Primal)

basically
Yeah sure, go kill some dinos, but there will be no reward in doing so- unless you call losing your precious ammo as a reward and alerting every carnivore within a large radius

[opal arrow]

another reason why the isle caught my attention like no other game. 🐊✨ it’s actually going to be different, i get a lot of jurassic world x avatar (blue people) vibes. i can’t wait to see how the devs expand upon the game with human activity. i’m genuinely so excited about it. and that’s being said by someone who plays dino.

[acoustic osprey]

lol

Yeah, it certainly did get my eye when I saw humans

[icy onyx]

Isaac killed the chat

[acoustic osprey]

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[cinder shoal]

I realized, if you can just grow humans in a test tube, you can also grow and harvest organs in a very morally grey area.

[acoustic osprey]

or why not just make you into a perfect human

no need to worry about bad organs

[cinder shoal]

That too, but they can still help those before they start making everyone superhuman

plus, some people may not like the idea of mutating their dna...

[acoustic osprey]

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[warm turtle]

Have a dinosaur poaching organization and the leader will be lebone jahmes

They would shoot down dinosaurs and stuff

[opal arrow]

i will make sure they are hunted down by an enraged minmi with a massive kill streak

[acoustic osprey]

Would be interesting to see if there would be any non-correlated parties just show up

I presume no?
You'd guess that no one would know about AE. Don't want any competition.
Unless it's government run

[opal arrow]

oh man i would think so dogg
cuz any organizations, govt or black market or otherwise, that got wind of AE’s operations would come clambering for it
think about the dude that snuck into jurassic park to steal embryos
or the security dude secretly working for outside people for payoff
i’m sure there would be an info leak here and there and at least small third parties would try to worm their way in like embryo thief dude

[acoustic osprey]

I guess however AE is run would determine how a 3rd party would "steal" information from them

[opal arrow]

if not for leaks, undoubtedly corruption from within. there’s always at least a little 😬

[acoustic osprey]

If need be.
Eg. If this is merely a simple Blackmarket-based "secret" organisation, expect a military force

I presume in our case, it's more so just "spies"

Honestly, makes you wonder why 291 marked Olympus Transmitter as "offline"

As if he wanted to commune to someone else

[opal arrow]

there is definitely something fishy going on 👀
when you’re dealing with assets worth this much, there’s always temptation to sellout from within
so i wouldn’t be surprised

[acoustic osprey]

yeah

Sad to see we wont be getting information on characters previously mentioned in reports like these

but I presume we'll see certain themes, motifs and events pop up

I mean, I understand if Don doesn't do them. But if we do, it'd be certainly interesting

But saying that, we still lack subtext and "backing" on what AE is

[opal arrow]

i know
i’m dying for more info
AE and they specific way they seem to be operating fascinates me ✨

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/omniman-smile-omniman-angry-smile-angry-to-smile-invincible-angry-smile-gif-22126487

The only fuel running is me is my love for stories, no matter how absurdly done or hidden within.
||Alongside casual Dondi encounters ||

[pseudo fable]

Unless you have things money can't buy.

Or a cult.

[opal arrow]

ohh a cult would make me so happy

now you got me thinking on a whole new track 🖤

[acoustic osprey]

I would like to purchase an Echidna

thank you very much

[opal arrow]

i hope that zombies are more than just a halloween teaser

[acoustic osprey]

I wouldn't mind stuff like that being in LTMs of sorts

But in lore? Depends.

[bold crater]

I mean if AE truly is a medical company thing, it'd make sense if they tried to heal the one thing that everyone eventually has to deal with

Death

🧟‍♂️ 👍

[acoustic osprey]

Maybe they're self aware

And realise the ethical and psychological reasons why not to be immortal

[bold crater]

[pseudo fable]

Definitely didn't put zombies in lore.

[severe raft]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-what-they-all-say-gloria-aung-richard-gant-grace-ray-hayward-gif-17674363

[acoustic osprey]

Phew

As horrific it is. A bit too standardised in horror media

[nocturne cosmos]

Me after I see the 200 zombie iteration only 3 of them were good

[rustic urchin]

Hmmm the generation one guys are arguably just one big cult dedicated to the replicator ig

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[outer verge]

AE could be on some divine quest of mushing people into a single being in a nightmarish acid trip of an event

Jokes aside the imagery and the language used reminds me of Nerv a little bit

And based on what we know about legacy lore a some form of human instrumentality doesnt seem too far fetched

Thousand life contract and so on

[gentle vessel]

Legacy lore barely holds anymore from what we can tell

Rn what we have from new lore is that they were doing testing for medical purposes, and it went horribly wrong

[wicked crescent]

Maybe they migrated from jurrasic park?

[rustic urchin]

Iirc Dondi described isles story as “what if Ingen wasn’t making a park”

[outer verge]

Yeah im aware, just trying to prove my pointless point

[outer verge]

I have no idea what they would be doing with extinct reptilians if the purpose is medical tho..

[outer verge]

When?

[void apex]

reptiles are really resilient and could have certain aspects that make them react to strains in certain ways

[gentle vessel]

Because clones have no rights

[outer verge]

Yeah but why reptilian medicine

Id assume it would have something to do with human medicine but reptilians and mammals dont exactly work the same

[gentle vessel]

They also do human trials in lore, hence the gen 2’s

[outer verge]

Sure there is overlap but why not bring say, mammoths back

[sonic rampart]

Could do with animal rights/welfare laws? Reptile welfare has always lagged behind

[gentle vessel]

Not as impressive to investors probably

[sonic rampart]

And also, if you make your own animal, there are no welfare laws

[gentle vessel]

Since cloned animals have no rights, but if you bring back dinosaurs more people want to invest since you did something seemingly impossible

[sonic rampart]

So there may be a really in-depth reason, or it could be "it's dinosaurs because that's what the story's about"

Or both!

[sonic rampart]

That too, depending on how hush-hush AE is, creating/bringing back dinosaurs could be a massive source of funding

[outer verge]

It would probably just me so much easier (and cheaper) to keep the whole operation secret by locating it on a series of secluded islands though

Instead of cloning extinct animals back to life and building massive enclosures for them

Assuming that the fences are still happening

I think the best bet is (at least partially) military purposes. The hypo and the neuro would both be perfect bioweapons

[outer verge]

Not to mention the costs of modifying the ecosystem to suit them

[cinder shoal]

I believe dondi said it’s not military or warefare based

[outer verge]

Sure looks like military hardware tho

[cinder shoal]

And the reason for using dinos is that they don’t have any laws protecting them, since they can technically be considered not animals. So AE can do whatever they want with them. Hypers are Hyperendocrines, so it’s likely to help with medical issues related to that. Neuros are likely created to deal with issues with the brain, potentially for still like dementia.

[outer verge]

That still doesnt explain why reptilians and not mammals

Their brains arent even exactly similar

So I doubt neuros would be useful for human brain disease research

And again: why something massive and extermely fcking lethal. Why not idk, hedgehogs or something that is less likely to eat you, blind you or to step on you

There is probably going to be an at least somewhat understandable answer to "Why dinosaurs?" How ever arbitrary it is. I just dont think "Dinoaurs because PETA" is not cutting it

[quartz sundial]

^

Surely there must have been an easier way to circumvent animal rights and laws

Or easier extinct animals to clone

[strange shell]

I still say that dinos, including hypers and neuros, would be terrible bioweapons

A hyper rex is just a slow light-armored tank with no gun, that can turn against you any seconds and that needs 10 tons of fresh meat every day to stay alive

And a neuro means sending on a battlefield something that is bloodthirsty, smarter than you and probably not very keen on obeying orders, which means a recipe for disaster

[outer verge]

It isnt exactly slow and the limited range because of the hunger factor is actually a good thing. Prevents it from causing too much damage. You could just drop in on an occupied area and watch from the distance. It would be stupid to be nearby.

Also has the advantage of not needing road infrastructure or a pilot

But im not 100% convinced about the military theory either

[strange shell]

It's slower than most tanks, I doubt hyper rex would be able to go above 40 km/h
Also it's just ridiculous for a maintenance price. It is not viable at all.
Tanks don't need roads either, and having a pilot who can comprehend and obey orders is a fair price to pay, as opposed to something that would actually be more akin to a bomb that doesn't kill people with cars and that can be disabled by a few high-caliber guns

[outer verge]

Well yeah I suppose tanks dont need roads but they cant go trough dense forest to the same capacity as the H-rex would, it wouldnt get stuck on mud either. But yeah its a flawed theory

[opal arrow]

actually, it would be a biomedical goldmine. crocodilians alone have shown to be basically immune to cancer and other debilitating conditions due to their highly evolved immune systems 🐊✨ (evolved in part because they literally roll around in disease-filled muck their entire lives and feed on absolutely horrid rotting corpses, and have been doing so gleefully for millions of years).

the conditions most dinosaurs had to live and reproduce in were absolutely brutal, often downright horrendous, so their bodies would have undoubtedly produced impressive adaptations inside and out to survive. the frequency alone at which they got injured along with fossil evidence of extremely advanced healing capabilities, they would be a medical holy grail on so many levels. look at packy’s skull alone and apply that to bone reconstruction in accident victims and people with degenerative diseases. dinosaur bodies probably held a wealth of unique biological information, the likes of which hasn’t existed on earth since they lived and walked. 🏝️🦖💕

[opal arrow]

and this would all crossover with genetic editing technology (systems like CRISPR) 🧬

we’re already doing it. we’re already using the genetics of other species to apply (limited) gene therapy in humans. they have full-blown splicing in effect as well (non-human). we have glowing dogs with jellyfish genes in them. we have tomatoes with arctic fish genes in them that make them immune to freezing. it it were legal, we would be doing more in humans as well.

[opal arrow]

also. leave the roads alone. i like the roads.

[outer verge]

Yeah that is true that the DNA altering enzymes would be very useful when transferring qualities but it still doesnt justify bringing back extinct species: We have the crocodiles you so highly praised, why not use crocodile DNA?

[outer verge]

Im not coming for your roads smh

There is no other reason I can see to be doing this all on an highly modified island (or several of them), unless they were doing something unethical or dangerous. Operating on an island is extremely expensive and inconvenient so there has to be a reason to do so

[opal arrow]

like i mentioned- extinct biodiversity that could harbor unique medical secrets and promises for new treatments/cures (and other things that make big $$). many dinosaurs had biology that we cannot even come close to seeing in modern animals. some of these could be potential “holy grails” in different fields of medicine, which would end up being insanely profitable as well as possibly helping people who were disregarded as terminally ill or permanently disabled before.

[outer verge]

Thats still a far fetch. The physiology could end up not be that different and you would have wasted a crod ton of money for nothing

[opal arrow]

oh i 1000% agree there is illegal/unethical practices being run here. such is basically guaranteed when you’re working with assets worth this much money and in this much of an ethical grey area. even if it’s being run by the govt… makes me even more sus 😂

[outer verge]

"The" government? Which one

[opal arrow]

i keep being told AE is a medical research branch of the US govt.

[outer verge]

Oh, well in that case they are for sure doing illegal and unethical things with extra drop of self righteousness to top things off

[acoustic osprey]

No, could be

[opal arrow]

even if it began as an “ethical” project, having access to such advanced technology and seeing what it can do… and having these resources to work with… it would be almost impossible not to play god

which is how i image the strains might have developed. keep seeing how far you can go. keep pushing biological limits. more discoveries. amazing evolution before your eyes. it’s like a living miracle. it’s extraordinary. it’s addicting.

[acoustic osprey]

But it's safe to assume AE is a very "grey" company
seeing as Don said it aint a generic evil company

[acoustic osprey]

they become God

they literally named their HQ Olympus

[outer verge]

A said before, they remind me of Nerv

[opal arrow]

being a scientist and working with such amazing materials, making these biological advancements… it would feel insanely euphoric, religious even, bringing back these ancient beings. i could easily see how a cult mindset and all kinds of wild things could grow from what was initially a medical research project.

[acoustic osprey]

Hence why they likely named literally everything after Greek Mythos

[opal arrow]

i would even bet that at the start of the project, they didn’t even know they could go this far with the technology. then it’s insanely mind-blowing and they just keep going deeper and deeper and deeper with it all.

[acoustic osprey]

You feel like a God; Your company is literally resurrecting Dinos, etc

[opal arrow]

especially if you’ve loved and studied dinosaurs all your life. maybe they’ve been your obsession since you were just a child. now you’re literally creating the version of reality you always dreamed of, breathing and in the flesh. how are you not a god?

[outer verge]

The fact that their main base of operations is shaped suspiciously like this just rubs me the wrong way

Could give a hint of how its organized tho

[acoustic osprey]

(Albeit, that's Jewish)

but minor alterations but similar

[outer verge]

I know but similar stuff exist in other abrahamic religions and even eastern ones

[acoustic osprey]

It's likely just a reference

[outer verge]

Yeah but a very spesific one

[acoustic osprey]

it'd be strange to have a very strong Greek Mythos stance (with a bit of Roman/Latin Words) and then immediately have something like Jewish

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oh yeh they are probably on some occult vibes. i don’t doubt it. people tend to go that route when they have access to super advanced technology and unlimited resources behind it to do whatever they want.

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Can't stop someone when they're given God powers

https://tenor.com/view/kratos-gif-26454802

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it’s like alchemy. they’re trying to milk religion out of science.

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Well thats pretty weak argument since latin and greek are used everywhere with stuff like this. Even irl'

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I'm talking about Greek Mythos being a very large aspect in The Isle
Compared to any other culture or Religion

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Or that way it has been in the past. It could be different in evrima

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Not really

Evrima is a Greek word
With the whole "tree of life" having Greek Mythos references

And with the return of Tartarus