isle-lore-theories

[void apex]

it is a date, and it is the same day

or very likely the same day

[open compass]

The report was filed on 12/9 at the top

[void apex]

it does seem strange that Dondi would just randomly propel the world forward 150 years, or the modern way of anual counting back 150 years

[safe ravine]

missed that one, walked away for a few min

[void apex]

because the game is not set on what we today would see as 150 years in the future

it's rather that the whole BC->AD thing didn't happen, and that they use a different way of counting

[open compass]

Crackpot theory incoming: It could be that the different islands we've been playing on are set during different time periods, and Gateway specifically is set during 2172 or around then

[void apex]

Interesting theory

but immensely flawed

[safe ravine]

like in a timey-wimey way or just themed

[void apex]

why would AE go back to the islands after their... well... let's just say implosion.

and just go about work as usual

[open compass]

I didn't mean time travelly, just that we don't know if the different settings we're switching between are happening at the same time

[void apex]

as if nothing had happened

if Gateway takes place during the 2170's, Spero/Spiro during the 1980-1990's then... what happened between those?

[open compass]

What suggests that our playing on Spero/Spiro takes place during the 80's or 90's?

[void apex]

general architecture + dev statements about time

[open compass]

I thought that was all about when AE decided to abandon they're stuff

[safe ravine]

maybe they figured if anything had managed to survive it would have died in the 100+ years of the islands being abandoned

[void apex]

unless some major historical event happened 2171 years ago from this report that changed the way we write years but countries like the United States of America still get created and stuff like that.

[void apex]

then the buildings would be WAY more overgrown and crumbled

rain + concrete = erosion -> crumbling

[safe ravine]

depends what they were made out of but yes

[void apex]

they are clearly made of concrete

and some parts of asphalt

[safe ravine]

like if they used roman concrete might be a little different

it gets stronger over time

[void apex]

those two materials do not last 180 years through ware and tear

[void apex]

Asphalt man

[safe ravine]

but that's just a theory, a game theory

[void apex]

but still

that wouldn't explain why they haven't been completely overgrown

[safe ravine]

maybe the first thing they did was redo the roads so they could start rebuilding and repairing

[void apex]

since this is a tropical place afterall, plants can and WILL find every single area to grow on

[void apex]

why repair the infrastructure after 180 years???

buildings created in the 80's aren't gonna hold that long man

it wouldn't be repairing

[safe ravine]

idk why do they have a obviously functioning research facility after 180 years

[void apex]

it would be replacing

[safe ravine]

if we assume the date on the report is accurate

[void apex]

like the electrical infrastructure could hold up with the wares of the later half of the 22nd century

[chrome acorn]

180 years? What did I miss

[mystic rivet]

Idk I’m just reading this lol

[safe ravine]

the date on the report says 12/8/2172

[void apex]

12/8/2172

[chrome acorn]

HUH

[void apex]

yeah

[chrome acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/future-squidward-spongebob-gif-4767609

[open compass]

Could be that instead of completely abandoning all their stuff they just moved their operations underground while maintaining the necessary infrastructure above ground

[void apex]

then they would at least remove all the important things from those buildings

like ya know, computers

[open compass]

They have newer, cooler computers underground

[void apex]

they wouldn't have after ditching the place

[acoustic osprey]

It's never shown in concept art that the facilities were working again

Literally everything shown being broken down

I really doubt the dates are accurate, and more so just a random date with a line marked out because you weren't supposed to really know what it says

[safe ravine]

maybe they left the obsolete equipment above and used it just for basic communications whereas all the fancy stuff is underground in the more modern facilities

[void apex]

but like

"modern facilities", when were these built!???

[safe ravine]

kindof what I'm thinking but I like to do galaxy brain stuff anyway

[void apex]

did AE ever leave the island in your theory???????

[acoustic osprey]

They had to

[void apex]

exactly

[safe ravine]

they left at some point obviously

[void apex]

they left in the 90's

[open compass]

Why use a marker overlay that has visible holes in it, and why not just write the actual year in case this happened?

[acoustic osprey]

We've seen artworks, textures and models all showing clear weathering

[void apex]

then, according to you, came back, rebuilt, and then left again

[safe ravine]

or maybe, they never left and just moved operations underground to give the appearance that the operation was abandonded

[acoustic osprey]

Depends, not it is still pretty hard to read
It's just good attention to detail

No idea

[acoustic osprey]

Things could easily get into those tunnels, as we've seen as big they are and the open entrance in p3

[muted hill]

I do remember Don accidently mentioning an underwater research lab a few months before evrima whilst playing on spiro( which ever one we didnt get) so underground stuff doesnt seem that far fetched

[void apex]

that's like trying to explain that there's always someone behind you but every time you turn away they disappear and both cameras, mirrors and people are lying about it

Like yeah... sure... while noone would be able to absolutely prove absence, it is still a dumb theory to even bring up as it is absurdly unlikely

[void apex]

The G.U.T.S. is already that

[muted hill]

oh right

[safe ravine]

nobody else is coming up with anything so far

[slow delta]

there's nothing to come up with, this is all lore sauce

[void apex]

but moving underground for 180 years while letting the entire infrastructure, INCLUDING THEIR MEANS OF GETTING AWAY FROM THERE crumble into nothing, is a bad theory.

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[slow delta]

just very abstract lore info that has no real bearing and that's why it doesn't matter what happens to the canon cause most of the stuff is so dettached they have no real effect/value on the lore

[acoustic osprey]

This lore stuff has just only given stuff to question, barely any answers

[muted hill]

I mean they could have left the older buidlings as a decoy to hide their works from authorities? I dont really know

[safe ravine]

imo since it's on earth(?) while they were in operation in 2172 it was somewhat equivalent to our 1990's so there is no 150 year gap

[slow delta]

its not even keeping us busy like past morse codes, its just spoonfeeding

[void apex]

(Weekly Hellshade drop in to be angry about 70% of lore going away)

[slow delta]

top 10 lore moments

1. primal carnage being canon
2. primal carnage not being canon
3. primal carnage being canon (truly this time)
4. primal carnage being decanonized

[void apex]

I like this more than the morse code stuff, since more people can join in on it, creating a larger sample of people to work on it.

sure, it isn't super complex

[slow delta]

ok but imagine if these images had some weird language cipher instead of plain old text, and we had to decode all the stuff

[void apex]

and get the same amount of vague information to a sample size about 5000 times smaller than the regular one? Yeah, no.

[safe ravine]

the morse code stuff you basically have to rely on what everyone else who knows morse code is saying it says

[slow delta]

we all just used software and free websites kek

[void apex]

Much better to give information in the start to lure away, give interest

then, once the people are invested, you start giving them curveballs

[slow delta]

i mean people have been invested for so long

we havent seen lore in actual years

[void apex]

yeah, the same 7 people in here

[slow delta]

based 7 people

[void apex]

for the past 2 years

[safe ravine]

besides, it's a network blueprint and an incident report it wouldn't make sense to make it have any special code or morse code

[void apex]

instead, for the first time in ever, I woke up seeing 1000 new messages in here

people are invested in this

[slow delta]

im sure you could say it was a stolen hacked file and it got corrupted or there's a safety cipher

[void apex]

and like it, wether you like it or not

[safe ravine]

variety is the spice of life. If all the lore were encrypted codes it wouldn't be as fun

[slow delta]

ofc not all

[void apex]

and this is not all

[slow delta]

idk man the last piece of lore was in august

and it was a freebie like this one

[void apex]

was that with the whole music stuff?

[slow delta]

what music stuff?

[void apex]

morse code in the radio tower thing, although barely lore

now we might have an idea as to what it is though

[slow delta]

it was the ceratosaurus trail camera

[void apex]

potentially the Echidna luring boats to the islands

[slow delta]

is there new radio tower morse?

[void apex]

in the song that plays

it just says SOS

[slow delta]

what song where wot

[void apex]

with the new OST

[slow delta]

new ost?

[void apex]

when evrima first got music

[slow delta]

ah

i dont think that even counts as lore cause it was just an old message repeated

we have so many duplicates its not worth mentioning them 😦

[void apex]

I am sorta glad that primal carnage is left out of the picture right now though

puts Dondi in much more creative freedom

which will be fun to see

[slow delta]

i mean he is the one that bought the rights and wanted to include the original pc lore

plus i feel kinda about alfie

also i added the old console stream and some of the first discord transmissions in my document

[void apex]

Alfie I will miss

[slow delta]

we solved it guys

[void apex]

the lore of all time

[slow delta]

alfie is back

[rustic urchin]

Alfie

So I see people have gotten blurbs out of the crossed out spots

Unfortunately, im blind and can’t read them

Apparently hardpoint reestablished sometime 2- - -?

Meaning 2000s

[safe ravine]

you missed it, 12/8/2172

[rustic urchin]

Gah damn

[rustic urchin]

If that’s right then wow, that’s a huge breakthrough

Realizing we could be 150 years in the future

[safe ravine]

but then remember, the isle is on Earth(?) so yes but potentially no

[rustic urchin]

Oh yea, earth(?)

Yea I try to forget that tidbit sometimes lol

[safe ravine]

and they have 80's-90's era tech so that doesn't line up very pretty if we go based on our technological development timeline

[rustic urchin]

Yea

I mean I was thinking possibly 2000-2040 timeline since we have touch screen tablets and such

But yea 2172 is crazy

[safe ravine]

for some reason the date 2030's is stuck in my mind whenever we talk about when the game takes place

[rustic urchin]

Yea, that’s partially wishful thinking on my part

Near future is interesting, not far off enough to be anything sci fi, but far enough to have a little creative liberty

[slow delta]

idea

one of the redacted blots below the zeus poseidon hades etc must be the apollo core from the old lore

[rustic urchin]

Also could we pin the documents here, especially the edited one that’s been pieced together

[slow delta]

they are all pinned

[rustic urchin]

Oh I guess they just aren’t showing up for me yet

[safe ravine]

the incident report is in the pinned doc, but the pictures don't show up for me

[slow delta]

idk if you mean my doc or not, but it might take a bit to load all the images

i got 78 pages of images and gifs

[safe ravine]

the one lightclaw has but ya they've both been updated

[rapid chasm]

PDAs, in the early 90s we had prototype touch screens.

[slow delta]

i also updated backwards cause i added some forgotten stuff i had in my archive

[safe ravine]

nice

[slow delta]

the chronology is messed up but it doesn't really matter

[rustic urchin]

Oh really? Damn then yea 90s makes most sense

[zinc narwhal]

I don't know if the 1 or the 7 are plausible in the date. I kind of feel like it's trying to say 2002, maybe... I don't want it to be so far in the future

Of course, the dating system could be totally different, but that also just doesn't really feel right...

[slow delta]

i agree

[zinc narwhal]

Either easily could work, but if you have normal-looking choppers and less advanced technology, the late 90's and early 00's make sense

[still scarab]

aqua has been at this all day lol

you are really invested since i got you into the isle lol

[zinc narwhal]

Nah, I've been at college and then napping in the library.

[still scarab]

ah

[open compass]

Feel free to overlay the dates for yourself, the font is Special Elite

[zinc narwhal]

There's dinosaurs, sci-fi, and compelling lore. What isn't there to like?

[still scarab]

lol true true

me attempting c:

[zinc narwhal]

How are we unredacting? Just sending contrast to the moon, or...?

[sand seal]

Leave 2172 alone. Don’t worry about the year. Do not think about the year.

[chrome acorn]

[still scarab]

lol mmmm.....i do what I wantz!

[rustic urchin]

He’s trying to throw us off we know too much

[still scarab]

:< why zod why do you betray us so!

[chrome acorn]

Any ideas?

[open compass]

I was just looking at that. Think it says "seven minutes"

[zinc narwhal]

That's what I got too

[still scarab]

same here

[safe ravine]

7 minutes

[chrome acorn]

any ideas on what SHIFT is

[zinc narwhal]

SHIFT?

[still scarab]

i am gonna write all the text we know so far c:

[chrome acorn]

SHIFT

[zinc narwhal]

That could be a good starting point. I'll try to work backwards off that.

[rustic urchin]

Blank after shift looks like another date

[safe ravine]

I think it means a process likely change of shift or something

[rustic urchin]

Shift may be like a work shift

[open compass]

I thought similarly but I don't get why it would be completely capitalized like ZEUS Entry

[chrome acorn]

The designation the errant gave seems to start with SD5

[zinc narwhal]

Looks like the same date. And unfortunately for my "2002" hopes, the bottom of the second character in the year is nigh unmistakably a 1

[open compass]

Looks pretty much illegible to me, could you send a screen shot of what you're seeing?

[shut remnant]

wait is there any good indication that the document erant-291 had is the same as the GUTS map document?

[safe ravine]

Sorry did it on my phone so spacing isn't that good but

[chrome acorn]

If I wasn’t on my phone I could probably mark it up but

[zinc narwhal]

Security Division (group) 5, maybe

[open compass]

Can't say that I see it

[open compass]

If you look at the url of the torn paper images, they're title 291-C, which is the document referenced in the E-291 incident report

[shut remnant]

oh damn didn't notice that, that's really cool

[icy onyx]

I see a S

[still scarab]

think aqua is right

[chrome acorn]

there’s a S followed by what could be a D/B and then a 5

[still scarab]

its the security division 5

SD5

[zinc narwhal]

If it's a B, it could be "Bureau"

[still scarab]

true

some of these are interesting

[chrome acorn]

now it looks like Si

[zinc narwhal]

Second half of "OLYMPUS___" is most likely "TRANSMITTER"

Although that does take up a lot of space relative to "OLYMPUS", which doesn't line up

R-... RECEIVER, maybe?

OLYMPUS could be both a data storage system and a communications array...

At high enough volumes of data, you'd want a dedicated transmitter and receiver...

[open compass]

Receiver fits space-wise assuming it's capitalized like "OLYMPUS Receiver"

[zinc narwhal]

Either way, it fits better than transmitter

[silk glen]

This is what I see across the whole document, although I see you guys saw a l for Olympus instead of a r like I did, which makes more sense

Why is it like that lol

[acoustic osprey]

Brightened up

[silk glen]

This should be a little better

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/bgKAk.gif

[acoustic osprey]

Hope it's not 2172
Just gotta deal with it, I guess

[fast adder]

12/8 hmmmm

and 12/7

Lore or clues? or maybe I'm lost

[acoustic osprey]

date

so it definitely looks like OLYMPUS

hold on

just central? Maybe

Looks like a capital L at the end

Just the E doesn't really fit

[chrome acorn]

Control? Maybe

[acoustic osprey]

Receiver is too big

[chrome acorn]

Olympus control

[acoustic osprey]

control fits with central

just the O is a bit too big

[fast adder]

can you send the one without the red overlay also

[fast adder]

Thx

[acoustic osprey]

All four

But definitely Olympus

[fast adder]

What if the first letter is a B not a C

I don't want to go Alice and wonderland on it but there is a lot of black pixels to work with there

[acoustic osprey]

I'll get a comparison

[still scarab]

So any discoveries you guys make @ me I want to make an organized version of the entire thing c:

for fun

[fast adder]

I haven't said much but @still scarab you and Leighter have been picking this apart soooo well

[still scarab]

aww thank you x3

its honestly so much fun

I am a sucker for like scp lore and stuff and this is giving me those kind of vibes in the best way possible

me and aqua have been collaborating too

[fast adder]

I think the B has some potential but I'm relatively new to the lore part of this amazing game.

[rustic urchin]

man 2172

the future is now old man

[still scarab]

No its the leaked date of when the isle will be finished duhhh

everyone knows that its the best evidence of lore

[fast adder]

I really hope 12/7-12/8 means something for update 6 but ik the devs are more "until its ready" in their release mindset

[zinc narwhal]

I mean the old lore had documents from the 2020s and info about a 75-year time period, it it's not too far off

[still scarab]

neh its pertaining to the lore etas are a death wish lol

[zinc narwhal]

I doubt it. Lore doesn't typically have to do a ton with update times, at least from what I've seen.

[fast adder]

Fair enough, a guy can dream. Still I know they are pushing for a 2022 release for U6. I don't know what to take as insight from lore just yet 😛

[acoustic osprey]

It is highly likely not an ETA of any sorts

[acoustic osprey]

One comparison, coming right up

[still scarab]

started working on the translation looking legit c;

[zinc narwhal]

evil laughter

[still scarab]

I'll put Olympus-something and the dates

[acoustic osprey]

B could work

[still scarab]

Also look at mine so far c;

It's coming along :D

[zinc narwhal]

You don't think it's Biotrace, right? I don't think that'd make any sense whatsoever. Just spitballing.

[acoustic osprey]

lol

I'll see if it could fit in

it could be, something with "E" at the end is also plausible.
The font spacing is a bit too small though for biotrace

[still scarab]

Also here's the mockup so far c;

opps forgot the seven minutes c:

[acoustic osprey]

here is my version

actually, need to add an effect

better 🙂

[fast adder]

Straight up inspector holmes in this channel i love it, cya tm. Also thinking B isn't it, the 2nd letter is too off from letters that follow B.

[acoustic osprey]

yeah, it's close
I honestly thought K up first
As it looks like the double column of a capital K

but when I checked it, capital K was too small (not wide enough)

didn't want to tamper as I got the rough font, spacing, etc

[open compass]

OLYMPUS RECEIVER is only too big if it’s entirely capitalized, but going by the ZEUS Entry style of naming from earlier in the paper, it could fit as “OLYMPUS Receiver”

[still scarab]

that's what me and my friend think too

[acoustic osprey]

just a bit too big

[open compass]

Ah, nvm

[acoustic osprey]

Same Font, etc

which is a shame

Although, wouldn't make sense for them to refer to OLYMPUS Receiver
As this abstract/network, only has Olympus CC and Transmitter

[hexed flax]

Maybe "Olympus Entrance" it would fit with the amount of letters

[acoustic osprey]

let's have a look!

[acoustic osprey]

Maybe, just a wee bit too big

[hexed flax]

Almost

[acoustic osprey]

yeah

[slow delta]

Some of the words you guys found are obvious like Olympus but I'd say try not to overexpose the image because you will create artifacts and then you won't be sure if the characters are actually what they seem

[acoustic osprey]

hence why I use Photoshop

alongside with Lightroom Classic, and just a standard photo editor

Obviously the existence of grain occurs.
Such is the life of ISO

But just trying to get the most information on the one thing helps

[slow delta]

No you're doing a great job, but it might be better if you colour coded the discovered words based on how confident you are

like olympus and seven minutes are obvious but maybe the entrance/receiver/central part is less certain

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah, I've only placed down the certain ones on the most certain ones

Haven't placed down anything yet for the Olympus "XXXXXX"
Too broad

[slow delta]

Yup nice

i wish they had hidden more info in the images like in the metadata or as like hidden sounds in the image pixels

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah, realistically only thing similar to that is the name drop in the file name

[slow delta]

Yeah

[acoustic osprey]

Which is pretty good.
Now to wait for the next incident report to see the next character

[slow delta]

let's hope we don't have to wait 3 years

[acoustic osprey]

Likely not.
Seeing as Don has been more recent compared to the last 3 years

Which is also good. Even if it's just a gif, good to know he's alive and (at least) has been working on Evrima's lore

Shame we wont likely hear about 291 again

[slow delta]

I tried making a spectrogram of one of the images but nothing apart from some nice ambient spooky music
https://d2fmm4xlexpx3g.cloudfront.net/melobytes_com/spectrogram/20373b5b1efb9e1856a09cb6d0b31e08975fffadbc2f6d18dbb99218307f51e2/melobytes.mp4

[acoustic osprey]

very similar for both, I'm guessing?

[slow delta]

also i think it cropped the image cause it's too big

and no i didn't try because i think it crops the image due to its size and if i shrink it will manipulate it

[acoustic osprey]

ah

[slow delta]

ill try some other sites

yeah same issue, images are just too high resolution lol

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[slow delta]

overlayed both pages and made them the same size, idk if this might help see if there are different fonts/character sizes

[acoustic osprey]

I did notice, on the incident report, that the top text was larger than the bottom text

[slow delta]

idk if this is useful but i managed to make a super white version of the summary without overexposing the redactions

[slow delta]

Oh hey i noticed there is an arrow going from G to B

maybe the person went from G to B and died there?

[acoustic osprey]

Oh no, their incident report said they were found at D

Or at least, one of the tunnels in GUTS near D

[slow delta]

right so, this arrow is something else and probably linked to the LLLRFL and 12/7 thing

[nocturne cosmos]

Isle lore drop

You could probably figure out some of the word in the blacked out areas if they have the letters slightly coming out

Just have to figure out which letters overlay on them properly

But that’s if it isn’t just random stuff

[slow delta]

i dont think it's random stuff but its probably meaningless regardless

[rustic urchin]

12/7 probably connects to the date since it’s just a day before the whole 12/8 thing

I still think the lllrfl is him scribbling tunnel directions lol

[still scarab]

i'll send a couple of mine soo far

it definitely says site something

unsure of the late part

honestly i think this one says poseidon and hades entries or something along those lines

[rustic urchin]

That first word def ends in a g

Gon

[still scarab]

it could also be a lowercase d

Doesn't make too much sense to have an uppercase G along with on being lowercased

lol

I know its site something-

see

[slow delta]

what happened at site 13?

[slow delta]

left right forward huh makes sense

[rustic urchin]

Ye

[slow delta]

well it's either left or right

[still scarab]

also we know the period is also within that text so the word looks longer than it is

Reds are incomplete or possible words

[silk glen]

What if

[still scarab]

ooo

think you're on to something

it could be it also lines up

[silk glen]

Unless that's a differently stylized A in the second word, which would be huge, I think it's a H

[still scarab]

oh yeah i think its h too

[silk glen]

Because if it's a Styalized A then it's entirely possible for it to be First Location and AE Site ___

[still scarab]

could be c:

[silk glen]

It does look like a H with the top connected tho

[still scarab]

Yeah lemme see

this is what I got

which ones should we try to get next?

[sand seal]

_ _

[sand seal]

How did you come to the conclusion that an individual’s designation would be “Site ____”?

[silk glen]

That's what I was wondering

[sand seal]

Designation is not destination.

OLYMPUS “CONTROL” doesn’t fit font size.

[silk glen]

For your question though I think we should do third blank. I think it says GUTS at the end, since it seems short and GUTS access shows up later, and makes chronological sense imo

[sand seal]

Weird. Your control map looks different than mine…

Oh well.

[still scarab]

I'm spit ballin zod c: the reds are not likely yet

reds are still to be discussed, blues are possibly, and if then if its definite than I remove the black bar and add the text

[sand seal]

Weird the guy would have a heart attack in HADES, though.

POSEIDON would be more fitting.

GUTS doesn’t go to Control

[nocturne cosmos]

I like the part we’re it warns you their shouldn’t be echos

[still scarab]

i WAS THINKING POSEIDON ORIGIONALLY

[sand seal]

It’s good spook.

[still scarab]

I mentioned not too long ago that i thought it was saying Poseidon and Hades and people pretty much said it wasn't lol

[sand seal]

They don’t know how to read a flow map, I guess.

[silk glen]

Honestly I can't read the map so I'll leave that to you guys, trying rn to replace the redacted letters with the letters from other parts of the document

[still scarab]

I just love that I have lore to dissect c: this is giving me the best scp vibes x3

[sand seal]

Zeus only goes 3 places (4, I guess if you’re a psycho).

[still scarab]

lol

[sand seal]

You’re not bringing a panicked “companion” through the Transmitter access or HADES.

GUTS doesn’t even go to the Transmitter

[nocturne cosmos]

Also their is just a team missing

[chrome acorn]

I was under the impression the guide was of GUTS itself as it’s the generic underground tunnel system

[silk glen]

What I'm wondering about rn is this first letter here, cause the only thing it lines up well with is lowercase r, but that doesn't make any sense

[nocturne cosmos]

Nah GUTS are the travel

You guys should try doing the ones that are easier to see first

You can see quite a few of the letters sticking out on some

[sand seal]

You guys are on your own. I realized why my map is so different. Good luck.

Not many words end in “-ton”. My favorite is Soliton.

[nocturne cosmos]

Saoul after leaving us all to suffer for another 5 months

[chrome acorn]

zod confusing the hell out of me and then dipping

[nocturne cosmos]

If saoul wont save us from this misery I say we all simply sleep until next lore drop

[sand seal]

Saoul has a military-scifi novel to work on.

I gave you my suggestions. Make some progress, maybe I’ll come back.

[silk glen]

I think the hardest thing is confirmation bias. Like rlly I could see like half of the alphabet in one of these things but depending on what you wanna see it looks like different things

[nocturne cosmos]

I’m on phone so hard for me to do stuff but you should try getting the witness statement you can figure out quite a few letters by their bits sticking out

[slow delta]

can someone post all the found words but above their respective redactions so we can see the sure/unsure ones?

[silk glen]

Gimme a sec I'll put what I think + some were pretty sure of

[slow delta]

cheers

[silk glen]

I think this is most of it @slow delta

Orange we're pretty much certain of, red has evidence but not sure, green is spitball, blue is unknown

[slow delta]

very nice

the witness last name starts with another B not an E

the curves are identical with "BARS"

this can also be K

[nocturne cosmos]

That is a k and d btw if I remember

The two sticking out in the middle

[sand seal]

I wonder if the spelling errors are intentional.

[nocturne cosmos]

Their is intact nothing in any of this nothing was ever made to be made out

[naive crane]

Could these 2 possibly have connection with this. Maybe I'm overthinking , but definitely

[slow delta]

where are these from?

in-game files?

ive lost track of what i have in my archive and what not lol

[silk glen]

The road map iirc

[slow delta]

ahhh yeah

i dont remember if we ever decoded any binary or not from those

oh nvm i remember them being really low resolution lol

and then i took them from the discord post but it was all existing binary

[hexed flax]

Yeah they are from the hope trailer iirc

[slow delta]

i added the gifs in the doc even if we cant decode any binary or anything

[agile gorge]

The word with the t is "the". You can see the "e" and the end

[open compass]

The font on the docs is Lumios Typewriter Used, not Special Elite like I said yesterday

My b

[outer verge]

Designation to be Sit l? ??..

[still scarab]

I got site

Or sit something

Because you can see the curl of the t

Than there’s that curve at the top-

[outer verge]

Yeah true its t instead of b

[still scarab]

Originally thought it was site

[outer verge]

and the next letter could be e

[still scarab]

Hell we know somewhat of that one

Olympus blank

[slow delta]

ah right lol

ive lost track

[still scarab]

We are figuring out what the last part is

[slow delta]

in case there was any doubt

[still scarab]

Seven minutes

[slow delta]

yea

someone post what we think we have so far

[still scarab]

I’m not at my pc rn

[outer verge]

Is this not it?

Couple easy enough letters missing but I think thats all for now

[slow delta]

aight

im gonna have an unbiased attempt by not looking at the previous attempts

[slow delta]

im copy pasting clear letters from the document into semi visible ones to see which ones match

that way i dont have font differences

[sand seal]

Easy to line up transparencies, keep in mind occasional character height changes from the mechanisms

[slow delta]

here's a sample of what i have so far

it makes more sense in my .pdn file cause i can turn off the layer

[sand seal]

Based on this, you can cleanly fill in POSEIDON and HADES for many locations, if not all of them.

[slow delta]

probably but the spaces arent enough

it could be some other greek words that appear similar

[sand seal]

Or a designation like “UNIT” or something similar given their context, but you do you.

Though in the “Units returned” line, I believe those are something more personal like rank and name.

Private X.

[slow delta]

slowly working it out

[soft crescent]

What is the app or whatever y’all use to do this?

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah just short

[acoustic osprey]

photoshop for me

alongside a few others if need be

[slow delta]

paint.net for me

[novel kindle]

I think I see a W in this spot. And I feel like that word/name could end in an O?

[slow delta]

there's an h or n before the o

so it can't be poseidon

and for the name this is what i got

[novel kindle]

Dang y’all are good at this

[slow delta]

sad thing is this wont have any meaning in the grander scope of the lore

[acoustic osprey]

Oh yes, pretty much.
We know the next incident report will just be about another random character and their misadventures.

But, it's definitely still fun

[still scarab]

also in that one is there maybe an r..

could be an r

or an i

[slow delta]

i no cause there's the dot missing

it could be r but the bottom left extends a bit too far

ofc who can say whether its noise or not

[lofty solar]

Pleuston(or organisms living in the thin surface layer existing at the air-water interface of a body of water) is a possibility but it doesn't seem to fit context wise

[slow delta]

and s defo isnt there

[lofty solar]

yeah

[sand seal]

The obnoxious thing is that it took them a whole day to reestablish a hardpoint. Slackers.

[acoustic osprey]

^

[still scarab]

Lol

[acoustic osprey]

then a whole day to write THAT report

[sand seal]

Must have like 7 people working there.

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/better-call-saul-idk-whatever-shrug-gif-12483758

[sand seal]

Honestly this would have happened sooner with that work force. I’m looking for a new job, I’ll apply.

[still scarab]

cries when discord censors me ;-; for saying poopy

No wonder the place went to dog water

[slow delta]

not many words containing "nzo"

must be benzoyl something

[open compass]

Where in the summary is that for?

[slow delta]

witness statement end

[barren lodge]

and blank wild?

could be a adjective for the next "b" word at the end ing

[slow delta]

and a w___

would be wild or wind or some other word but the redaction is too thick

[barren lodge]

the after W__ and B___ could be the object of the sentence

It has a comma plus and its a long sentence with three parts referencing 3 things

[slow delta]

could be i cause there are some pixels floating over the rest

[still scarab]

if that's the case it might say with

[slow delta]

ooo found something

[still scarab]

hm?

[slow delta]

the top of the L fits perfectly

ok i take it back, this may be pointless but it's more fun than i thought

[barren lodge]

I was looking at that too it makes sense

[slow delta]

cant figure out what the very next protrusion is

wait yes i can it's a d

perfect fit boys, and thats why we dont use our own fonts

[acoustic osprey]

in mine, I said it was i

[barren lodge]

could it be wired?

and a wired b ____ld

[slow delta]

i agree it's i because it's the only letters with a square protrusion over the character level

help me find what character has this "staircase" protrusion

[barren lodge]

the word after might end in ing since there is a the after

[slow delta]

the closest thing is f

[acoustic osprey]

Looks more like a h

[slow delta]

yeah you're right, it's not perfect there's an extra black pixel but we can write it off due to the redaction

[barren lodge]

k?

[nocturne cosmos]

I’d advise you guys use the original as well to see the letters sticking out

They become distorted with what you’ve done

[acoustic osprey]

Just a bit of perspective

[acoustic osprey]

always

[nocturne cosmos]

That is a h

[acoustic osprey]

But, the only letters you can see that stick out on the originals are the ones with like "l" "b" etc

[nocturne cosmos]

You can tell if you look at the original

[slow delta]

i was wrong, it's an h

it fits perfectly

[nocturne cosmos]

Ye

[barren lodge]

I feel like 70 yr old woman solving a crossword puzzle doing this

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah, seems like it's h

[nocturne cosmos]

Also a lot of these have distinct differences on the original easy to tell which is which

[acoustic osprey]

some, yeah.
But some contain similar characteristics

[slow delta]

i copy the original characters, color them red and move them one layer up to see if they overlap

idk why people tried finding the fond and writing, it's too hard to reverse find the identical font and size

[nocturne cosmos]

As long as a part of it is sticking out you can find the letter that matches

[nocturne cosmos]

A lot of them are very different

[barren lodge]

handheld

[acoustic osprey]

without seeing their tails (on the head), you can be easily confused
Especially since their is a clear distortion/photocopy effect

[nocturne cosmos]

Capital letters are defo a bit harder

[slow delta]

what do you think the top first letter is

i had it as D but replaced it cause the 3rd one is D and it fits perfectly

[acoustic osprey]

B seems to fit

but just the centre of the B

as it's fins are lot more thin, like in the top one

[slow delta]

idk B fits perfectly in other spots and this one doesnt

[acoustic osprey]

hm

[slow delta]

like here, i had it as B but D fits better

[sand seal]

🙃

[still scarab]

you guys think these are numbers?

i mean obviously the 2 but i am wounding with the lastone is 5 or 6..

[lofty solar]

i see a 4

[still scarab]

it could be 4

[lofty solar]

but i don't think its site 4125

[still scarab]

i'm talking about the last number

I don't know if its a 5, 6, 8, or 9

they all kinda fit surprisingly

[lofty solar]

yeah

[pseudo fable]

I think that you've zoomed in to the point the pixels are artifacts on an already intentionally imperfect font that has basically melted some parts of words entirely, because I know what's there and I'd never guess it.

(But that's just me. Don't be discouraged.)

[still scarab]

lol comforting dondi i feel so reassured lol

[slow delta]

baaah, he's just trying to throw us off cause he knows we're about to uncover everything

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/R4nE.gif

[still scarab]

lol you're quite confident i like that but dondi is gonna make us regret life by discovering something lol

[slow delta]

d or h

[still scarab]

he's gonna make it more pixelated and a more cursed font next time lol

he should honestly give us a page that's just an utter decoy one day and have it say something stupid once we uncover it

we'd fall for it like the sheep we are

[open compass]

If we pixelate it enough, eventually it'll recanonize PC

[slow delta]

i think we can infer most words once we settle on the key letters

[still scarab]

lol

[slow delta]

what do you mean, pc is always canon

[acoustic osprey]

lol, that's fair.
I guess, with Photoshop, I've just come to the point of where I'm just comparing different levels.

Trying to find what's noise and what's an actual letter.

[still scarab]

Oh same here clip studio let's you do some gnarly things

[acoustic osprey]

But yeah, definite sections where it's pure assumption
And sections where it's obvious/a lot more certain

[slow delta]

let's cross reference what we each have for the witness report

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-lore-theories message
This is what I sent here last, but I've changed some stuff around

And added a lot more stuff, now off laptop 😎 So can't get back on till i'm back

[still scarab]

Yep!

[acoustic osprey]

It's all fun and games

There's definitely too much hidden to understand most of it

But, it's definitely nice trying to get any bits of information that might serve a bigger purpose
(Even though unlikely)

just glad this nice lore drop was good, way above satisfactory for me

[pseudo fable]

If I did do that, I don't think anyone would ever know. The secret would just remain permanently.

It was never uncovered because no one could guess because it was just a meme.

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[pseudo fable]

And discovering it defeats the purpose of the joke.

Like collectively all of the censored information in the lore is actually just the script of Shrek.

And I only filled in a few sentences.

[acoustic osprey]

[still scarab]

Yah know what yeah that's makes sense. Well keep up the good work! I am loving the crumbs of lore we've gotten already and can't wait to see what else there is! :D

[pseudo fable]

But knowing me I'd do some obscure material only I found funny, such as the glorious mistranslations from the Backstroke of the West.

[zinc narwhal]

If they were Backstroke of the West quotes, I would applaud. Watched that thing in full like 4 times.

[still scarab]

that's beautiful

[pseudo fable]

Someone could post these references and it would absolutely kill me.

[still scarab]

omg lol

[nocturne cosmos]

sooo now we wait for next lore drop?

[pseudo fable]

This is my second favorite, beaten only by "Send the troopses"

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/friend-you-are-crazy-star-wars-obi-wan-ratio-tile-angry-gif-26502690

[still scarab]

Hey dondi by any chance will we possibly slowly uncover lore in the game? say you find one paper and than another and they refer to the the same thing and stuff slowly reveals blocked out information? sorta how like humans learning how to use certain tools, or learning their environment would be?

[acoustic osprey]

wouldn't mind that

[acoustic osprey]

I hope sometime in U6-7

[still scarab]

that would be amazing

honestly might be my only reason to play humans

[slow delta]

i cant believe i miss the binary morse

[acoustic osprey]

shame that the morse tracks were simple

[still scarab]

I am kind of there for the world building and lore aspects

[woeful chasm]

Or you find like the Dondi npc Easter egg as human

[slow delta]

major typo ah hell naw immersion ruined

[still scarab]

lol

[slow delta]

imagine taking a whole day to make a summary and autocorrect doesnt flag "posess"

[acoustic osprey]

Anything really.
Even if it's small

[open compass]

It's extra immersive

[still scarab]

oh yeah I am down for all of it!

[bold crater]

Gateway seems like it could contain tiny crumbs of lore here and there

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-and-the-holy-grail-king-arthur-black-knight-gif-23568057

[woeful chasm]

It’s just a flesh wound

[still scarab]

it could be a literal missing finger and my brain will go oonga bonga

[zinc narwhal]

I mean, it was printed as an internal document. I agree with Lazy; it's extra immersive

[zinc narwhal]

^

[woeful chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/the-isle-theisle-the-isle-lore-lore-gif-19857045

[acoustic osprey]

Pretty much

[sand seal]

I mentioned that typos might be important earlier but nooooo. No one listens to Saoul.

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-they-called-me-a-madman-infinity-war-madman-gif-13990981

[slow delta]

yes but no screenshots

[woeful chasm]

So it didn’t happen

[sand seal]

Bro. What's even worse? ...you and I got different leaks.

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[sand seal]

I'm not gonna say I know what things that could be are are are not in some roundabout strange way of fashion... This is very entertaining for me.

[woeful chasm]

I think you meant an ‘or’ in there instead of are…

[sand seal]

Did I? Or didn't I?

[naive crane]

Or did he. Hmmmm maybe it's a hint. He did say typos might be important.

[sand seal]

FUCK OFF WITH YOUR LOGIC, PIXY

[slow delta]

important how? the redacted words have typos too? that means we can't rely on anything

[acoustic osprey]

typos...
hypos...
oh no!

[naive crane]

[slow delta]

wait maybe if we find all the typos a sentence forms or something?

[nocturne cosmos]

simply their is nothing to gain

[slow delta]

oh it's big brain time

[nocturne cosmos]

alright now u have made them go insane

[woeful chasm]

Take the first letter of each typo…

[nocturne cosmos]

stop fueling this behaviour its damaging

[sand seal]

I'd say things, but my home address is written down.

[nocturne cosmos]

||see now an even bigger brain would be to take all the letters u can see without doign anything to the image then putting them together this defintily will make sense||

[woeful chasm]

This is true

[sand seal]

🙃

[nocturne cosmos]

||maybe even do a lil be a decoing in their every third letter||

[sand seal]

[woeful chasm]

I got it! It says “SaoulZod is bigbrain”

[slow delta]

there's 1 only typo

[nocturne cosmos]

atleast one of the things i say might be true

[slow delta]

posess

So the people got possessed ooo spooky

[sand seal]

My map is different than yours, but here. How about this... Imagine you wrote it.

[still scarab]

MmMmMMM

[sand seal]

Read it from perspective.

[woeful chasm]

Like a journal entry?

[sand seal]

Anyways, I gotta go back to my own writing. Good luck.

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/lalo-wink-adios-lalo-salamanca-better-call-saul-gif-26070980

[slow delta]

Going to bed, here's what I have if anyone wants

[rustic halo]

2172 damn

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah

[sharp knoll]

The year is not random right?

[still scarab]

What if the date itself is a typo-

[sharp knoll]

Hmm

Might be...?

[acoustic osprey]

I hope so

[edgy pike]

Is that not part of a 0 sticking out where the 1 is

Or is that just the censoring

[icy onyx]

I can understand some

[still scarab]

hmm?

[slow delta]

Font is wrong, l has a vey characteristic hook that goes above the height of most other letters

Well it could ve anything, redaction is too thick to test

[still scarab]

its special elite right?

[slow delta]

Idk i drag and drop characters from the image itself that way the font is identical

[acoustic osprey]

Roughly, but it's definitely an altered version

[slow delta]

And that way it doesnt matter how much you overexpose and saturate

[acoustic osprey]

Special Elite is near identical
Closest you'll get in terms of just placing down words, unless you just copy both the documents' font

[open compass]

I've been looking but haven't found an exact font. One called Lumios Typewriter Used is very close, but the 3's and 9's are wrong

[acoustic osprey]

yeah, same with me. Finding very similar, just the tips/edges of a lot of characters are slightly altered

[cinder shoal]

I'm a bit late to the convo but was looking through, could it be "wired building"?

[pseudo fable]

Thought that said lulz.

[still scarab]

pff ah yes the name of a true king lulz

[acoustic osprey]

hi, my name is lulz
I seem to be right next to Olympus Transmitter, holding this broken abstract map.

Please ignore that I one of your sweep teams are gone, thank you!

Oh no, I am having a cardiac arrest. See you later

[still scarab]

[noble harbor]

I feel like every army personell be named Gonzalez these days xD

[sand seal]

Ramirez.

[noble harbor]

Gomez

Lopez

[still scarab]

lol

[rustic urchin]

Ramirez, protect the burger town

[still scarab]

lol

[acoustic osprey]

Well, some more backstory stuff
Rather than getting a grip

[slow delta]

i have an idea that might or might not pay off about decoding this and future similar stuff

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/bMeFx.gif

[slow delta]

My plan is to create a custom font by copy pasting each character from the documents we got, and that way anything I type will look identical to them. This will make it easier and faster to try and guess which characters go where.

While drag and dropping characters is good for figuring out whether a character has overlap with the pixels of the original image, it's harder to figure out the character spacings and completely redacted areas.

[pseudo fable]

I thought that was already being done, but

That's good.

I look forward to people guessing whom wrote what documents based off of patterns, too.

[slow delta]

We copy paste and drag the characters around but making a font will let us type stuff anywhere.

Oh gawd not the psychoanalysis

me about to infer someone's entire life story, personality and psychological trauma due to them misspelling possess

[nocturne cosmos]

go even deeper and infer their entire life from certain words they use and when they use certain grammers choices

[pseudo fable]

I don't think I have the talent to be so deep with it, only leave consistent grammatical clues.

And punctuation. Some of them firmly believe in the Oxford comma.

[slow delta]

bri'ish?

[pseudo fable]

Nay. Good sense.

[fast adder]

I hope that in the future, or on Gateway we see some radio signal lore pieces. We already have radio towers on the current map. Imagine you go into a human structure at a certain time or after biting a near by object (generator, etc.) and it triggers a audio message at the radio tower/station.

Or maybe, it is something only humans can access. Then it makes them go out of the way from whatever objective they might have to find these clues.

[slow delta]

unfortunately making a font wasn't really helpful, apart from missing characters the font size was too small when taken from the images. And if i tried to upscale it, the letter proportions became inaccurate

sadge

[icy onyx]

All this is absolutely great.

[barren lodge]

we might have to keep constant protection over the radio towers to get communication between humans or else the radios wont work

[fast adder]

I really like this sort of idea. Or dinos will want to guard a facility that can help humans locate larger dinos like a radar station (some form of interactable and then a similar UI to the scent UI to guide them towards the players)

[acoustic osprey]

Likely

[acoustic osprey]

(and one on Gateway as well)

Although I doubt that one is Olympus

Unless it is

[fast adder]

so much more human structure potential on Gateway already whether it be just for environment or mechanics. I wonder if the doors on gateway will have the physics they showed not too long ago.

Also random thought... Quetz concept had the robo quetz in the atrium, maybe we will find more clues in there for what those sort of experiments are going on.

[chrome acorn]

GUTS

[acoustic osprey]

I presume so

[slow delta]

i made some small modifications but i think we've hit the limit

[void apex]

either e or o

[slow delta]

let me see

So e doesnt fit perfectly and o fits, but o fits almost everywhere

ill keep it in but im doubtful tbh

[void apex]

what in gods name is that word/name though???

Praverton or something??

gotta be a brit

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[slow delta]

well dondi did mention the oxford comma

[acoustic osprey]

Highly recommend

[fast adder]

Has the one on spiro always made a morse-code like beeping noise?

[open compass]

Could be a name like Pinkerton or something

[slow delta]

not enough space

or maybe idk

[acoustic osprey]

Has a morse code track(s) that can play

Although it's activated whenever you go to a human building

And it's random
A few other tracks that can play

[fast adder]

Ahh ok, I knew i've heard it at the human buildings but was curious if it was its own thing

[acoustic osprey]

I wish it was for just the radiotower,
Although, those morse tracks were quite simple

[slow delta]

maybe we could dig up the audio files of the game to get the clean morse codes? cause so far all morse codes are either too hard to make out from the ambient noises or its the same one on repeat

[rustic urchin]

yea i dont think we managed to make anything out of radio tower morse

[acoustic osprey]

Besides SOS and B

[rustic urchin]

B

the answer to the lore

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[slow delta]

i havent updated in a long time so i think i still have an older version which might have the morse audio files

ill do some digging ig

I think it's possible to convert the pak file into a zip file and then open it with 7zip, otherwise we might need 3rd party software which i dont really trust. Problem is my laptop is low on hard drive space so I can't really copy paste the entire 16 gb pak file (since i dont want to convert and break the original)

[slow delta]

nvm it didnt work

[slow delta]

if we could extract the audio files, we could look for the morses

[acoustic osprey]

Yes, well, more properly

[fast adder]

Thank you!! This is what I was literally doing when I asked you about it @acoustic osprey

[acoustic osprey]

Lol no worries

[half linden]

SOS ? then B?

Site B?!

SITE B!!!

[sharp knoll]

It also could be B443 or 442 since the PI is not canon anymore then those specimens (Big Daddy or Magna Tyrannus) are not canon too

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah, pretty much.
Just a bunch of "SOS" then one B

_ . . .

same thing basically in all the different tracks

[haughty meteor]

Where’s site B

[half linden]

I was referencing JP3

Although it could be a mayday message from another radio tower in Gateway, which of course would be the second map of Evrima, aka, Site B?

[acoustic osprey]

B is strange, yeah

Like, you could assume that that person was mid-morse?

But then they send another SOS
Unless it automatically sends SOS in morse? But I doubt the later

[half linden]

Or it could be radio interference stopping the sequence mid-way through

[acoustic osprey]

the part where it says B (in morse)?

[half linden]

Yeah, - ... could be a part of ... --- ... 😛

[acoustic osprey]

could be

[acoustic osprey]

although, the static comes at the end so maybe

-... ####

[slow delta]

yeah the static and random ambience is way too loud but the morse is too short to be anything meaningful too

maybe it's B as in hades entry but i think the morse is much older than that

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah, this was even before we knew about PI being gone

Basically 1 day after u4

Almost a whole year ago, wow

[slow delta]

zamn

[edgy pike]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/811927638955261963.gif

[mystic rivet]

Ded

[mellow solstice]

Did anyone stitched the 2 documents together?

[void apex]

Yup

[signal forge]

should have ripped it better. kek
looks like a research building.. wonder if it’s part of that big atrium

[rustic urchin]

ok so jotting down some random shower thoughts

we know AE is some kind of medical company

we know we have these gen2 humans made by AE, and they have greek god physiques

now at first i thought "wouldn't that body type be really impractical for someone trying to survive on an island? you'd want things like fat to insulate in cold nights and for sustenance"

but thats under the presumption that these gen2s were designed specifically for surviving the island, which, why would they?

the physique shown is less practical for survival, but very appealing in terms of modern society, as well as very similar to what you see on elite military soldiers

what we may have here are "products", modified humans designed for appeal to people and militaries. instead of years of training to get a body (or mind?) like these gen2s, you can grow a bunch of them in a test tube and have a platoon of soldiers, or your "dream body"

tie this in with the possible conciouss shifting tech we've heard about, and you can even have a reality where this medical company is essentially selling you your ideal healthy body, to replace one thats either broken, old, or just disliked

[sand seal]

Complex guide of the area. Not a map, but descriptive of facilities and their priority / accesses.

[cinder shoal]

If consciousness transfer is still a thing, gen 2s could be like a self learning ai. You send them to the island, they try to survive, and when they die, you put them in a new body and send them back. Eventually, they learn how to be REALLY GOOD at surviving. Then you have a super soldier ready for the military.

[rustic urchin]

yea

or if youre some rich old dude, buy yourself one of those fancy gen2 bodies and transfer your conciousness into it

[cinder shoal]

However, all of that could be disproven easily in the future, it’s a neat idea.

[rustic urchin]

yea we havent heard about the conciousness stuff in a while

simply have to wait for more lore tidbits

[cinder shoal]

Yep, now we wait.

[short falcon]

[pseudo fable]

It's actually pretty exhausting to write.

[rustic urchin]

i bet

mindbending stuff like that is always hard to work with

[cinder shoal]

Perfectly understandable, it’s worth the wait.

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/omni-man-effort-for-what-invincible-gif-22010287

I personally dislike everything conscious-based besides that

Because it's not dumb. It's makes a good amount of sense

I understand it was mentioned in old lore

But, would you rather be an easily hunted dinosaur or a "perfect" human?

[rustic urchin]

idk how to feel about the dinos canonically being human minded, but i like the element of minds transferring to different bodies with stuff like gen2s lore wise and tribals gameplay wise

id probably keep it away from dinos for the most part personally

[acoustic osprey]

Same

It's weird and wouldn't make sense for most people

[meager junco]

I’ve always found the idea cool, but at the same time, it’s something that’s a lil too out there imo

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/bWtqJ.gif

[fast adder]

Maybe a more acceptable approach is a more "genetically enhanced dino" type idea. Rather than saying the dinos have a humanistic mind they could have higher intelligence as designed by the humans. But this also is pretty generic and nothing really new.

[acoustic osprey]

very

I guess I'd have to deal with it if Don brings Human brain to Dino body into Evrima

But, yeah.

[meager junco]

Dino Matrix

[edgy pike]

Well probably it’s not a one time thing, you’ve gotta have your turn as a psittacosaurus that gets mutilated by some theropod before you get a turn as gen2, (thousand life contract etc)

[acoustic osprey]

https://imgur.com/gallery/xOwiduI

[edgy pike]

I’ve been shot

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[edgy pike]

are the old soundtrack names not relevant anymore

[acoustic osprey]

which ones

[edgy pike]

1000 life and all those ones

[long onyx]

yall like it

[modern rover]

get that SL outta here istg

[oblique surge]

I'd be careful with those kinds of videos
they're not welcome here

[long onyx]

(there was a Mariah Carey roll but i had to delete it since webm)

[sand seal]

Not the location for it.

[fast adder]

Wondering what lore we haven't gotten much of or any of that you guys want to learn more about.

[acoustic osprey]

Gen 2

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/bVKK1.gif

[rustic halo]

the big monsters like island walkers or matriarch, colossus, etc.

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/frank-castle-wait-please-stop-please-no-please-gif-21133188

[bold crater]

I wonder if Gen 2s will have any sense of personality at all 😮 Like is it 100% "completely silent shows no emotion aside from dying it's your job to fill their shoes"? Or could they ever talk a bit and express themselves?

Lemme 3 call with swears

[rustic urchin]

dont think we'll get 1-4 calls but i hope theres some good VA

[bold crater]

Calls is a weird way to put it, but basically the human version of them I guess 😛 Like just being able to say "Hello!" or even just yell At least as Tribals. I wanna scream as I run down prey.

[modern rover]

I mean, proxy voice chat is planned, so you can call yourself

[bold crater]

True ;-;

Actually......

Ye think it'd be possible to have the volume of voice chat be properly affected by stuff like distance?

Like if you yell, it actually gets reverb from far away

[modern rover]

That's how proximity VC works, yea

It's very possible

[bold crater]

Yeah I meant more so extra effects 😛

Rather than just someone's voice fading as you get farther, if they're loud enough it could legit echo

I don't think I've seen that in a game before 😮

[modern rover]

Nah, it's possible and has been done

[bold crater]

I've experienced muffled voice chat before when someone is behind a door for instance. But never reverb from far far away

[modern rover]

You can have voice chat react to environment for different echos and whatnot

[bold crater]

I know reverb in big rooms works, so that's neat to hear distance reverb works too

If someone screams in a forest, it'd be horrifying to hear it echo through the trees

Unfortunately dinos may not hear anything unless they use that cool Deathtrooper idea

If they used that idea for voice chat, would it be possible to tell if someone is screaming? Or would it be too garbled up?

[fast adder]

It would be best to have a basic 1-4 call for gen2s so players who don’t want to VC can still communicate without typing in a way like a simple audio line…

1. Hello
2. I’m Friendly
3. F#@k Off!
4. HELP ME FOR THE LOVE OF GOD

[bold crater]

It'd be very sad if dino players only heard a quiet tssssssh of static when ambushing a human player <:/

Hmm.....wonder if the Gen2s know what they are or why they're on the island.

[rustic urchin]

i really want screaming and pain soundss and stuff

or like little grunts when doing things like moving a heavy object

[bold crater]

Mmmhm. Immersive and adds tension in some situations

Gotta tend to your wound but it hurts so you better hope nothing can hear ye grunt.

[cunning gale]

Abt the "Glance reference document" on the bottom section of the torn document it says "Do not permit them to enter. If they speak to you, do not reply." are we talking about other humans or dinosaurs who are able to mimic human speech? I'm more captivated by the other quote saying: "Report any ____ heard from the jungle. You should not hear an echo." I think this further implies the mimicry of speech by dinosaurs.

super interesting yasss

[acoustic osprey]

Likely Gen 1s

For the top one

We only know troodon might have mimicry in the future

But, we know it won't be too sophisticated

Unlike Echidna and likely Tribals

[slow delta]

Id like for us to do a new console stream so we can ask questions and try to see what is canon and what isnt

Its been 5 years i think since the last one

[hasty junco]

Since 1 is a broadcast

1. AAAHHHHHH

[fast adder]

[hasty junco]

Imagine walking around and you hear that

[fast adder]

lmao you just hear that from inside a human structure as you are walking by

[maiden sundial]

The vc for humans in the isle is gonna be a CoD lobby from Xbox live. I can feel it.

[acoustic osprey]

Honestly, I just see if Don answers my questions when I'm talking about lore

[slow delta]

yes but whatever he says in chat isn't legally binding for the lore

[acoustic osprey]

Yes and no

[slow delta]

also wtf are people talking about in-game calls in this chat

[acoustic osprey]

I said something about Gen 2

[slow delta]

yeah but they completely derailed it

[acoustic osprey]

So yeah, I usually take most/if not all of what Don says recently as lore or

Not set in stone lore, but confirmation/deconfirming things that is mostly useful

Lore that's lore that isn't lore but isn't lore

[slow delta]

I'm the opposite, unless something is stated in-game or in a known way of delivering lore (aka transmissions) I just ignore it

I'm sure Dondi likes discussing lore without having to be tied down to every idea he mentions in chat

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/sqYK.gif

[acoustic osprey]

Well yeah, hence this

If Dondi says something about lore, especially confirmations
I'll take it less with a grain of salt, but still a lot higher than anything else from the discord

Seeing as Olympus Transmitter won't likely make a return any time soon, unless it does

Especially with stuff like PI's connection to Isle

It's a hard thing. Because obviously words in a discussion shouldn't be taken as gospel

||because then you could look at Don's old statements and call it still canon||

But stuff that's been recently talked about and confirmed gives a good understanding of where we are with lore

Especially seeing as the last 1-2 years has been nothing but those statements

Which have given a good understanding of where we're at.

and obviously the words of anyone else is not as good. Misunderstandings occur when it's not from the writer themself

[half linden]

So Mono can walk silently, make smelly decoys and spit a smelly tracker?

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-discussion ?

Albeit, could only imagine an incident report about one of those

[meager junco]

So was the new Hypo Rex concept official or still being reimagined (been a while since it was released so I forget)

[strange shell]

There is no hypo rex

[meager junco]

That wasn’t my question

[strange shell]

There has been no info of strains after the new hypER rex redesign afaik

[acoustic osprey]

excluding Echidna, Colossus and the Tisso Strain talk with Don a few months ago

[bold crater]

Have we gotten any more info as to what Tissoplastic is as a strain now? All I remember is that looooooong ago, it was said to be getting redone as a concept.

[raw dove]

O

[icy onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/same-same-here-watson-gif-11998494

[thick badge]

I think they may leave that up to modders to do

[acoustic osprey]

All strains are staying, to what we know, gladly

[thick badge]

Cant wait to play them in 30 years 😉

[thick badge]

Talking bout strains why do you think we cant play hypos in legacy, i wanne know what other ppl think

[maiden sundial]

Likely due to them not being finished and being too overpowered. And being so cool that everyone wanted to be one

[acoustic osprey]

Not finished stuff

[steel flume]

But it was 😅

[acoustic osprey]

The hyper Rex one from a few years ago is the latest design we've seen

[bold crater]

[severe raft]

It's essentially the same but it's got more muscle as well as the head having 3 pairs of fangs for some reason

[shell remnant]

looks like it can't even close its mouth

[shell remnant]

ok

[rustic urchin]

Still wish original was kept, it was so iconic

[agile whale]

hope they keep that broadcast for it tho.
Too good to waste

[meager junco]

Ty!

[stoic hamlet]

meh it was ok, it was iconic but just because its the old and gives nostalgia doesn't really mean its better, I really like the new one more honestly, much more unique

[neon mesa]

Big same

[bold crater]

Inner mouth tusks and the proportions make me hnnng

Though concept art is WIP so hopefully it gets some tweaks

I imagine strains in general are gonna be away for a hot minute

Then again.....with lore slowly encroaching closer......maybe not

They are probably a big aspect in lore

[rustic urchin]

I liked the simplicity of the original. Nothing fancy, just a simple amalgamation of nature

[vital meteor]

kind of crusty though

[rustic urchin]

He’s gross and mutated and I love him

[chrome acorn]

the crusher

[honest plover]

The killer

[bold crater]

The new one seems kind of overexaggerated to me. Like they tried too hard to make it scary and went backwards. <:/

I vastly prefer strains that still retain some manner of their original forms to add to both consistency and horror.

New H-Rex so far just looks like something out of Monster Hunter.

[rustic urchin]

ye

[bold crater]

So correct me if I'm wrong, but all 3 strains were made for erm "medical" reasons initially, right? Or were the result of medical related experimentation?

[rustic urchin]

from what we know

i believe hypers were probably for some cancer cure/regenerative medicine thing, neuros were probably for that whole concious link stuff

[icy onyx]

Newest version of Type-H Rex is amazing, you're all crazy.

[modern rover]

i do like the over-evolved look. I think it meshes better with what Type-H is supposed to be. It doesn't look like it should be alive, it looks very artificial and not at all accurate to nature, but that meshes with what Type-H is

[shut remnant]

if they removed the tusks it'd probably be alright

[shut remnant]

a type H is supposed to be a regular animal who's growth hormones went insane and now they're an oversized hungry constantly regenerating machine, I prefer the old type H more because it better fit with this imo

[rustic halo]

I like the new one’s head a lot but the body looks really bare in comparison

Old one flows better

[bold crater]

Just feels artificially scary and not naturally scary

Now speaking of strains, do we have any clue as to what the Neurotenic's and Tissoplastic's limited longevity factor may be? I doubt it's starvation, that seems more thematically fitting for Hypers specifically.

As cheap as it sounds, I can kinda see Neuros just dehydrating super fast due to their jelly....ness. But that feels a bit eh.

[rustic halo]

Neuros just sorta seem physically frail and lacking in melee ability

And Tissos are a lot smaller than their normal counterparts so there’s an obvious weakness there

[bold crater]

Well yeah but that's not necessarily limiting how long they can linger around for 😮

It was mentioned not too long ago that they'll have their own limits I believe

[rustic halo]

Oh

[bold crater]

[rustic halo]

That’s interesting, hope whatever limiting factor they have it’s not as bad as Hypers. The other 2 don’t seem like server-wiping material

[gentle vessel]

Well think of it this way

Neuros can probably end up cooking their own systems with their powers, and tissos are well, there