isle-lore-theories

[tawdry spruce]

Did AE create the dinosaurs and put them in three islands to observe how they survive?

[acoustic osprey]

Yes to the first
We don't have a total amount of "islands"

We exclude all legacy maps

So technically just Spiro and Gateway

[tawdry spruce]

What is Spiro and Gateway?

[acoustic osprey]

Evrima maps

[tawdry spruce]

Is Gateway some facility?

I heard it was a AE facility.

AE*

[turbid egret]

The Isle lore

[rustic halo]

Are Thenyaw and V3 still canon locations?

[supple rune]

new lore?

type N chickens...

[acoustic osprey]

No

It's a new map

[acoustic osprey]

No
And thenyaw is confirmed to never come back

[long onyx]

Thenyaw on deez nuts

[exotic jacinth]

Lore

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[modern rover]

haha those are stupid dinosaur names

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[tawdry spruce]

You guys got any lore theories about tribal or mercenary?

[mystic rivet]

Tribals r cannibals I think

Correct me if I’m wrong

[modern rover]

they are cannibals, and not cannibals as in "eyeless", which are a different thing

they can and actively do eat their own kind

as well as other non-tribal humans

[edgy pike]

Own killer

[acoustic osprey]

Not lore but canon
Mercenaries aren't Mercenaries and are actually lab creations by AE

[short zenith]

Generation 2

[acoustic osprey]

Yep

[tawdry spruce]

Aren’t they humans?

And if they are why would AE create humans?

[modern rover]

They are humans, and AE did create them

[fringe marsh]

I would love to see how Dondi and the team handle the lore aspects. Hopefully the reasons in lore for why they (AE) made anything is good.

[strange shell]

https://tenor.com/view/burning-paper-fire-angry-vengeance-captain-gif-5168936

This is how I picture Dondi handling the lore

[sonic rampart]

Please keep this channel serious and on-topic

[acoustic osprey]

Modified humans made in a lab

[zealous galleon]

why it was a good map

[hexed flax]

Are they actually modified? I thought they were just clones

[acoustic osprey]

No, made in a lab.
We can guess this because they're all the same age.

Unless AE explicitly got people who were the exact same age

[acoustic osprey]

It's because it's another developers map who is no longer working for TI

They can do better anyways.
Especially with what we've seen with Gateway

[zealous galleon]

yes there the same
but tribals are just other version before they turn in the cannibals

[hexed flax]

Clones are usually made in labs XD

They probably got the dna from some people

[zealous galleon]

the game just feels not like how it used to be

[acoustic osprey]

Clones are the same as "made in a lab"

Like, SW Clones are genetically modified still

[hexed flax]

I think we are talking about the same thing right now

[tawdry spruce]

Why would AE wanna make modified humans?

[acoustic osprey]

we just don't know if they're clones from someone, other people or just randomly made humans

[acoustic osprey]

Medicinal reasons.
Or wants to create the "perfect man"

[acoustic osprey]

Depends.
If you prefer the past, then you prefer the past.

[rustic urchin]

Now question is, are these just normal dudes or navy seal level humans

[hexed flax]

Making a human from scratch without someones DNA sounds like an extremely difficult task

[rustic urchin]

In terms of both physicality and training

[zealous galleon]

we do know that the dino that you grow you get a tracker

but if you get nested you dont have the tracker

[acoustic osprey]

Well, Gen 1 are highly modified.
They're still "humans"

It's quite likely that Gen 2 are also highly modified- but the more "contemporary" adaptation of it

[acoustic osprey]

Well yes

but that depends.
We know that humans will have different faces and sexes.

But this is a sci-fi world

[zealous galleon]

@acoustic osprey you know alot about the isle

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/scientist-science-im-a-scientist-gif-14090115

I'm just an avid-lore enjoyer

[zealous galleon]

same

i had the isle

[hexed flax]

AE could have just asked a hospital if they could buy blood samples of random people to use them for the DNA. Thats why there are different genders and skin colours

[zealous galleon]

but my pc went bye bye

[acoustic osprey]

Likely

But this is a world that even dinosaurs were possible in the 80s-90s

So, anything can happen

But we do know, at least, that they're made in a lab.

How? Created manually? Cloning?
Who knows, I guess we'll know in a few years

[hexed flax]

Yeah but there is still no reason to go an unnecessary difficult way

[acoustic osprey]

all depends on what they want, truly, with Gen 2

[tawdry spruce]

So we know that AE tracks the dinosaurs and put them in the island but when they are nested of course they are not gonna have a tracker because they were born with a mom and a dad not in a lab

[acoustic osprey]

and how they changed it from Gen 1

[acoustic osprey]

We can believe that AE were tracking/surveying the dinosaurs

We don't know if it's still confirmed or not

That info was from Punch. Around early last year, iirc. Or mid last year

Unless Don or someone else reconfirmed it recently

[tawdry spruce]

For sure they are tracking and observing them there is cameras

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[hexed flax]

Dondi hinted that AE are good guys. So there must be a reason for why they are sending artificially created/cloned humans to an island full of dinosaurs. I just can't think of one right now

[acoustic osprey]

Well, not really good guys.
Just that they're not "evil"
-I believe something along the line of "not a generic evil corp"

[sharp knoll]

Umbrella

[echo trout]

Maybe to save and protect the dinosaurs falling into the wrong hands

[acoustic osprey]

But I believe the reason is definitely around medicine
Or, AE have fallen morally grey

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/umbrella-spinning-resident-gif-9530595

[sharp knoll]

Yes

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[sharp knoll]

People think that Corp is good but they were not because they created virus, yeah is not related to AE, but what if AE is lying?...

[tawdry spruce]

Of course they are gonna lie it’s a secret corp

[sharp knoll]

Maybe they changed their minds

[hexed flax]

"Generic evil corp" doesn't really narrow it down. How does one define what a generic evil corp is doing? Every person would most likely give you a different answer. For some people it might even be when said corp is doing something for medical purposes

[sharp knoll]

Same with the Umbrella

Iirc Don said if he will keep playing Resident Evil, he will make the AE evil

[hexed flax]

I am sure he said if he wanted to make AE evil he would just keep playing Resident Evil.

[sharp knoll]

Correct

[acoustic osprey]

No, it just means that we don't know if AE would be morally good or bad.
Just that they wont be evil.

[tawdry spruce]

When AE used to be in the same universe as Phoenix international I know its not anymore but when they used to they raided Phoenix for their assets so they are kinda bad

[acoustic osprey]

Operation Inferno

[tawdry spruce]

Operation inferno?

Is that what they called it?

[acoustic osprey]

Aye, that is what it was called

[tawdry spruce]

Yeah so it was AE

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[tawdry spruce]

So they are bad

[rustic halo]

We do a little corporate espionage

[acoustic osprey]

no, we don't know anymore

because Operation Phoenix is likely not canon.

[tawdry spruce]

True

[tawdry spruce]

Also what is a Type H dinosaur?

[tawdry spruce]

Do you know?

[icy onyx]

Hyper strains of various carnivores that were genetically made for whatever reason

There may actually be an answer, but my thought is because of population control

The M strain (can't remember the name) were/are thought to be made to kill the hyper strains

[quartz sundial]

magna

[wicked sable]

Type H (or hyperendocrin) is one of four strains, the others being tisso, neuro, and magna. Hypos stand out due to them being able to kill basically anything with brute force alone

[icy onyx]

So far we only have magna rex right?

[wicked sable]

magna raptor might exist

we aren't entirely sure though

and there might be a magna humanoid, but maybe AE learned from making at least three

[tawdry spruce]

How can you be a type H?

[quartz sundial]

no one knows how they will be unlocked

[wicked sable]

You can eventually become any type of strain by evolving into it, but each one will require you to spec into certain traits when that system comes next year

and by next year i mean next ten

[acoustic osprey]

Because PC is no longer canon.
OP is likely not as well

[acoustic osprey]

For medicine

[acoustic osprey]

Magnas are now unconfirmed

[acoustic osprey]

likely Omniraptor now

[quartz sundial]

😭

[chrome acorn]

need some juicy tid bits for these O type creatures

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[tawdry spruce]

Don’t you need to be created in a lab for type H or you saying you can start off as a regular dinosaur and just evolve it to a weird looking hybrid thing by just doing different things how does that make sense?

[tacit raft]

Cannibles = hypoendicrin humans

[acoustic osprey]

Eyeless*

Cannibals are Gen 1 (Tribals)

[tawdry spruce]

I have a question how are these humans turning into monsters and stuff because the cannibal looks nothing like a human?

[acoustic osprey]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNCxbM50eWQ

They're much more just "humanoid" than human

As they're highly modified

Although, we don't know how they'll properly look like till we get a proper canon & contemporary illustration

[tawdry spruce]

So your saying tribal is made by AE?

[acoustic osprey]

Yes, Gen 1

[tawdry spruce]

This is confusing why would AE make tribals and stuff and mercenaries that are made by AE? Like why does AE want to make people?

[acoustic osprey]

Mercs aren't Mercenaries.
But are the successors to Tribals

Mercs = Gen 2
Tribals = Gen 1

likely made for medicinal reasons and/or making the "perfect man"

[tawdry spruce]

Wait.

I get it.

[acoustic osprey]

Very nice

Mercs is just a community name. Do not be mislead from that

[tawdry spruce]

So you are saying that AE made tribals and then the tribals became smarter and went to Gen 2 which now I'm guessing they have guns now and stuff right I'm I right?

[chrome acorn]

They’re separate

2 different factions

[acoustic osprey]

Not quite.
Gen 2 are the "Mercs" (Which are the human models we've seen in #isle-phase-three)

Gen 2 were likely made many years after Gen 1.
Gen 1 went mad, at least they did on old lore.

The "Guns" are old, left from AE. Why? We believe the islands were abandoned for some unknown reason

[tawdry spruce]

Ohhhh.

Now I get it they are creating a perfect man slowly cause Gen 1 were not that smart and Gen 2 were a lot more success.

[tawdry spruce]

Don’t you need to be created in a lab for type H or you saying you can start off as a regular dinosaur and just evolve it to a weird looking hybrid thing by just doing different things how does that make sense?

I replied this to some one else but they never answered back.

Heres what he said.

You can eventually become any type of strain by evolving into it, but each one will require you to spec into certain traits when that system comes next year

[acoustic osprey]

we don't know how Hypers or even strains were properly made

and with that, we don't even know how we'll be able to play as a strain

[tawdry spruce]

Alright.

[mellow solstice]

What’s a strain

[hollow cloud]

its like a sub species that has evolved... Google says "a particular breed, stock, or variety of an animal or plant"

[void apex]

some form of modified protein which gets activated on a level which is not normal for regular animals

[mellow solstice]

But I do think that hypos were created in labs to be studied to know what else they can do to manipulate the genes and I feel like it would have different points of builds to work on stuff like the building with humans that are building a robot quetz

[void apex]

in the isle, the strains are as follows:
-Hyperendocrine
-Neurotonic
-Tissoplastic
-O something something

[mellow solstice]

But maybe the mutation Dino’s broke out and got loose

[void apex]

We'd likely see traces of them

Also

they'd kinda... die?

Hyperendocrines have an absurdly increased metabolism

they die within minutes if they don't get food

[hollow cloud]

food would run out cuz they're so hungry XD

[void apex]

basically for their entire existence they just kill, kill and kill

[mellow solstice]

And the amount of food that they need to consume

Yes

[void apex]

they are described as a biological natural disaster

[mellow solstice]

(Honestly it would be cool to see a mutated mosa or a design of one)

[void apex]

Pros:
they heal incredibly quickly
they sprint at absurd speeds
they grow armour and overall more advanced weaponry
they grow to immense sizes

Cons:
You starve within minutes
The armour and weaponry is absurdly painful

[void apex]

Yeah, sadly it'd starve real quick since the ocean is so sparse with life

[mellow solstice]

Yeah

Or what if there are different islands with couple of labs with strains and some broke out and the island became abandoned with roaming strains, they breed and eat other strains. It’s a big stretch but idk

Just cool to think about

[void apex]

pretty sure the strains are infertile

might be old lore but still

there is no hyper juvies

[mellow solstice]

Make sense

Could be cannibals too

I’ve never heard of the tissoplastic strain before, the only neurotonic strain is the neurospino

[fringe marsh]

Tissoplastic was never implemented or given official art (save for the Tissoplastic Reaper)

This is old, outdated, and possible fanon information, but I recall the tissoplastic strain being based around speed, agility, thorns and venoms/poisons.

[mellow solstice]

Tisso carno, tisso Rex, and tisso spino 😩

The tisso carno looks so damn cool

[fringe marsh]

?

I don't believe there was any official art for that.

[void apex]

I mean it has had official art

old, but official

back when vega was their concept artist

[mellow solstice]

I saw a image of a tisso carno

[fringe marsh]

There was a rex I think and the reaper

[fringe marsh]

Yeah the middle one I believe is the tisso.

Also the megaraptor or deinonychus one.

[mellow solstice]

Is the magnaraptor new or what

[void apex]

Magna is old and outdated

[mellow solstice]

Is there any new strains?

Or any latest ones?

[void apex]

Some O strain

We are unsure on what it means

[mellow solstice]

All I can find is the hyper, neuro, tisso, and magna

[chrome acorn]

Magna is dead

[mellow solstice]

Still trying to find out what it is

Is it omni?

I think that’s it

[sharp knoll]

O?

[mellow solstice]

I think so but I’m not too sure

[sharp knoll]

We still don't know what is O but talking about Omniraptor it's a variant

[mellow solstice]

Oh nvm it’s not omni

[sharp knoll]

Still no confirmation

But it could be

[mellow solstice]

I mean it does say what they are

I love the designs of the tissoplastic Dino’s though

[vague root]

magna wasn't really a strain either tbf

still dondi was probably referring to this mecha quetz variant, giving the context

[mellow solstice]

These prob are the traits of the diff strains (in my opinion)
Hyper- strength
Tisso- speed, strength, defensive body
Neuro- intelligence and communication

I think neuro would be good at intelligence

[vague root]

strength doesn't really seem like a neuro thing

if anything, they look very easy to penetrate

[mellow solstice]

Yeah I just realized

Maybe some neurotonics have great eyesight or detecting the area around them very easily

But like maybe some neuros don’t have eyes like the neuro spino (idk if it does have eyes or not)

[acoustic osprey]

Maybe
Maybe not

Zann, who asked the question, wasn't referring to the Drone Quetz

[quartz sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/sad-troll-face-depressed-trollface-gif-25126675 me when magnas cancelled

[tawdry spruce]

Also are cannibals gen 1 cause I heard tribals can evolve to a cannibal?

[shell remnant]

it'll prob be modded in somehow

[acoustic osprey]

Yes and no

Cannibals are the Tribals

But if you're thinking of The Eyeless, we don't know

[tawdry spruce]

Do you know anything about the eyeless one and can you even get it like when tribal and mercenaries release cause Dondi said it will be impossible to get or something in a video?

[acoustic osprey]

There will be a way to get it
But how? We don't know

[tawdry spruce]

Alright seems cool.

The voice of the cannibals sound like a predator the one with no eyes.

Sounds scary.

[rustic nexus]

Dondi has suggested a few times it can be achieved through sacrifice but tbh after magnas and other stuff starting to disappear from canon lore idk how valid the suggestions are anymore

[acoustic osprey]

well, sacrifice through others seems to be the most actively speculative theory

due to more recent talks with Don

[rustic nexus]

I have a theory…

Actually nvm it was removed

[mystic rivet]

Rip

[mellow solstice]

I feel like cannibals didn’t come from humans, idk why, maybe humans did get turned into the cannibals as a experiment

But also here’s the thing, where did the tisso, hyper and neuro strains come from exactly?

The humans in the labs probably found out what they are but still, how and where?

Maybe there was like a power puff girl type stuff that accidentally happened to make the first hyper

[acoustic osprey]

Genetically made/done for the reason of medicine

[acoustic osprey]

Cannibals as in Tribals?
Or Eyeless?

[mellow solstice]

Idk what the eyeless is, I’m far behind from the lore and trying to catch up

[acoustic osprey]

As we know Tribals are humans
Just highly genetically modified

[mellow solstice]

Then eyeless

[acoustic osprey]

The Eyeless humanoid creatures

[mellow solstice]

Not the tribals

[acoustic osprey]

We have zero clue on how Eyeless were made

[mellow solstice]

I thought the cannibals were another mutated creature

[acoustic osprey]

Likely that they were Tribals but modified by the Replicator?

[rustic nexus]

Trying to figure out lore is like going in a circle

[edgy pike]

are any of the old transmission tweets relevant anymore? in one of the old ones there was a thing that hinted the the 15th "generation" (natural, sacrificial, genetics idk) of tribals became eyeless

at least that was my interpretation but transmitter is dead

[rustic nexus]

Nah sadly

[edgy pike]

https://tenor.com/view/cliç-cliçmonkey-monkey-sleepy-sleepy-monkey-gif-24594700

[acoustic osprey]

Nope

[tropic ermine]

yall think they humans gonna have dino trackers?

[tawdry spruce]

I don’t think they are gonna start with one but maybe find one in a broken facility cause dinosaurs are tracked

[tropic ermine]

ohhhh

[wicked sable]

ok call this one hell of a stretch but maybe the neuro mastermind is controlling apollo engineering and maybe made them create the replicator

[sharp knoll]

AE created Echidna

[mellow solstice]

Monke

[wicked sable]

yes, and then Echidna gained control of AE

it is the neuro mastermind after all

[acoustic osprey]

Echidna = Carrier

[rustic nexus]

Wot

[acoustic osprey]

That is what Echidna is

Take that in any way you do

[rustic nexus]

A carrier of wot

[acoustic osprey]

A carrier

[rustic nexus]

Is it like they carry the strain and they can spread it

[acoustic osprey]

That's all we got from dondi

[rustic nexus]

Sad

[acoustic osprey]

Does Echidna carry things? Does she carry something genetically
Does she "carry" the team (Colossus, Reaper and maybe even the Tribals)

[rustic nexus]

Hope its the former but if its the latter or something else entirely i wouldnt mind

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

@icy onyx

With bridge, cycad forest and the Hyper Bridge being all in a very close proximity

Including K15 and the aviary

[icy onyx]

BRIDGE

[acoustic osprey]

Bridge is life

[rapid chasm]

tribal god?

[acoustic osprey]

More so Replicator

[rapid chasm]

ok

[quaint compass]

wont the bridge make it too easy to avoid crocodiles and become the next hotspot?

[chrome acorn]

Would the replicator have control of echidna?

[acoustic osprey]

Good

[edgy pike]

Would make it very easy to carno charge

[acoustic osprey]

I'd imagine Bridge, if there is only one bridge, would become a major POI in terms of migrating.

Especially with Deino Bridge trolls

[quaint compass]

Deinosuchi should be able to mold together to Form a fake bridge then break apart for ultimate kills

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[edgy pike]

Run up the bank snatch a baby teno from the migrating family and run back under again

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[light flare]

some very interesting looking gear on those humans in the helipad concept art, looks like some kind of shield on one's arm

looking at it closer might also just be a gun with a sling

a very oddly proportioned gun

[acoustic osprey]

Could you send it that one?
I believe you're talking about the new one

[light flare]

Yeah the one from the 14th in #isle-phase-three

[rapid chasm]

its a dude running and trying to grab the gun off of his back to help his friend.

[acoustic osprey]

If you're referring to this one

[rapid chasm]

Yes

[acoustic osprey]

Looks like a weapon of sorts?

[rapid chasm]

Its a AUG or a QBZ

[acoustic osprey]

AUG is a possibility

and it's pretty time accurate too

[acoustic osprey]

the gun, in the image, looks upside down

[acoustic osprey]

not fond with gun anatomy, but the back side of the AUG looks more akin to what we see with the guy

this part

[rapid chasm]

yeah but why is there lines below it

or is that just a shadow

[acoustic osprey]

could be a shadow

just never seen an inverted stock before

[rapid chasm]

yeah its a shadow

[acoustic osprey]

also this gun lol

[rapid chasm]

because a sling goes on the bottom not the top

[acoustic osprey]

[rapid chasm]

unlikely

[acoustic osprey]

yeah, it looks a scope

just reminds me of the barrel.
Weird shaped guns

[rapid chasm]

modified m1 possibly

[acoustic osprey]

Who knows, they might be a photographer

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah, was thinking something similar

definite "hunting" rifle

[rapid chasm]

yes because theres no mag

[acoustic osprey]

yeah

[rapid chasm]

could just me a single m1grand without the scope

looks like there isnt a scope so

[acoustic osprey]

looks a bit like a scope?

although, it's a bit too close

[rapid chasm]

its at the bottom, from what i know a sling doesn't go on the top, and a scope should be outward

[acoustic osprey]

just very awkward cut-off to not be a scope

[acoustic osprey]

ah yeah

it just looks really weird when you flip the image upward

alright, going back to this

To go to K15 from this

(This is the entrance into the Hyper Fence, from the Cycad Forest and Bridge)

So, either the entrance into here is from the North or it's from the South

Being, the rough path from Bridge to Hyper Fence is ~N

with this being to the NESW of my map, to which it could honestly be flipped. My system is with alphabet on the Y axis and numbers on the X

WHICH, means this map is even bigger than I thought

honestly expected this

It now is 15x18

I could honestly even push it down to 1:1

just for ease, but that'd be too easy

Bridge also roughly points North

So it's "River" system goes from West to East

East side (at least, quoted by Don ) approximately goes into multiple river branches.
But at least hits the ocean, all branches? Maybe

I'm going to say it's likely that L/I10 is more northward

or at least, it's more so that the actual "beach" is more at H/I10

Ah, I forgot the river going West

Not sure how far the West Bridge River goes.
So I'll just add one tile for the time being

[acoustic osprey]

Also taking in-note that L/I10 is not accurate.
Don was roughly guessing where he was

[acoustic osprey]

There you go

even added the isle logo approx location just because it's fun

[rapid chasm]

what about gate way

[acoustic osprey]

The Hyper Fence gateway?

[rapid chasm]

no like the outpost k15 thing

[acoustic osprey]

that's there, check K15 on the actual grid

[rapid chasm]

OH

[acoustic osprey]

yes, lol

[rapid chasm]

is there concept art for the atruim or osmething

[acoustic osprey]

Atrium? Or Aviary?

this mainly

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/855527844670865438/1014706819765121154/unknown.png
Also in Quetz art

[rapid chasm]

looks like a atrium

[acoustic osprey]

It's definitely an aviary

And lastly, I want to showcase, the Aviary. Which will be soon featured in the game.

At least, Vis has stated it's an Aviary

[rapid chasm]

alr

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah

if we're going off old-lore still, we can guess that Atriums may come as well

[rapid chasm]

assuming this takes place in it

[acoustic osprey]

Likely

[tawdry spruce]

So I'm guessing mercenaries which are Generation 2 can create a military group or a faction which will be pretty cool I hope they add something like that.

[acoustic osprey]

In terms of in-game "player teams"
Sure

Like, you could get "Mafia Family" situations

Which I'm up for
I love the idea of PvP against fellow Humans

As much as it could be against lore

And/or, have that as more of an LTM (where it'd be promoted through lore or some other fashion)

something akin to what Sea of Thieves did recently

which heavily revolved around lore

[tawdry spruce]

Yeah pretty cool.

[acoustic osprey]

the players changing the lore 🙏

[tawdry spruce]

Yessir.

[acoustic osprey]

Although, I believe Don said there is no explicit story

So likely not

[tawdry spruce]

Like history.

Us changing the lore for what we do.

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah. Likely through LTMs only on Officials.

Although that'd be REALLY hard in terms of programming, calculating that information and etc

It'd be very worth it

at least for me.
You, the player, could change the game FOREVER

It sounds enticing, personal and scary (story-wise)

[tawdry spruce]

Yeah it would be very awesome.

I agree.

[acoustic osprey]

But yeah, we might not get something or anything like that

[tawdry spruce]

Well we just have to wait and see.

[acoustic osprey]

Don might even see that suggestion and think "Yeah no, shut up Lightclaw"

[tawdry spruce]

Lol.

[acoustic osprey]

But for me, it'd be nice

[tawdry spruce]

Well maybe.

[tawdry spruce]

Same I like it.

[acoustic osprey]

I, at least, have Sea of Thieves to do and interact with their lore

[acoustic osprey]

thanks

We'll see, hopefully, within the next few years on how Don wants to orchestrate it all

[tawdry spruce]

Yeah.

[acoustic osprey]

Anyways, we wait.
Hopefully not too long.

Just want my hands on Gateway

[chrome acorn]

Could be an aug

The other one could be some weird tranq rifle

Or just a long gun at a weird angle

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[woeful chasm]

I might be old and gray by then 😄

[rapid chasm]

yoo wanna play when they come out

[acoustic osprey]

we all might just be

With the devs' minds logged into some giant NASA computers

[acoustic osprey]

Sure, likely when they get guns though

[rapid chasm]

less go

[tawdry spruce]

What will also be cool for humans to have Generation 2 is to have taser rifle weapons to put the assets down not kill them like to make them tired or maybe tranq weapons to put the asset to sleep will be awesome

[acoustic osprey]

would be interesting

[tawdry spruce]

You know those taser rifles they used when they were shooting at the Indominus Rex and they said "IT CAN CAMOUFLAGE" and they were shooting the taser rifles at the Indominus Rex.

In Jurassic World.

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[tawdry spruce]

Yeah like those guns.

Taser guns in the game.

[icy onyx]

Bay?

[acoustic osprey]

Bay

a very nice bay

and apparently has a test there that Don wants to experiment with

[quaint compass]

Thank you grandma

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/eternals-arishem-for-judgement-judgement-marvel-gif-24476430

[quaint compass]

Has anything been confirmed about utah

[acoustic osprey]

just omniraptor, that's all

[tawdry spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/breakingbad-science-yeah-science-gif-5954775

[quaint compass]

Arid mountains in background?

[acoustic osprey]

which video is this from?

looks like the arid one from the beipi gif and the photo

[quaint compass]

Uh one second

https://youtu.be/_BUQkIn-KSI

[acoustic osprey]

thank you

time stamp?

[quaint compass]

Lmao if i only knew, ill try

[acoustic osprey]

thanks

[quaint compass]

https://youtu.be/WZ5zm-c8gnc my bad this 5:12 is the timestamp

[acoustic osprey]

thank you again

[quaint compass]

Np

[acoustic osprey]

OHHHH

This is right next to Bridge as well

[quaint compass]

Yeah where dondi fogged it out before ^^

[acoustic osprey]

when I'm done doing something else, I'll figure out which direction it was

[acoustic osprey]

yeah, it seems to be eastward?

[icy onyx]

it is a bay right?

or it at least looks like one, right?

[icy onyx]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/983461307565088778/1023543366669053952/saa.png

UHH

[chrome acorn]

Terminal/control panel

[rustic halo]

that is clearly the replicator

[severe raft]

Proper lore timeline when

[acoustic osprey]

Looks like it

[light flare]

Could be, but not necessarily. We don't know anything about why the Gen2 Mercs are created. Who is "resupplying" them? Jumping off into conjectureland: If the computer systems that replicate dinos and people can be hacked then outside interests could be using them to make mercs for their own ends. There could be more than one organization doing it too.

Older material, which could have been scrapped for all I know, mentions three factions of humans: Poachers, Rangers, and Scavengers. Two of those three are directly opposed to eachother.

[acoustic osprey]

If PI still existed, easily created factions from there. PI trying to turn you against AE

[acoustic osprey]

That was very easy stuff
Like, very early Vega stuff

When Gen 2 were suggested as Mercenaries

Actual Mercs

But yeah, there could be other organisations (like with BioSyn) that want to steal and/or stop AE

Who knows, The Replicator might've been made by one

[light flare]

Manufacturer's backdoor

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[quaint compass]

Nuke for 100 killstreak in the isle

[icy onyx]

Okay but where have we gotten any of this information, this is made up

[acoustic osprey]

No that's just a theory

[modern rover]

i like the idea of mercs not being mercs and just humans created by the replicator because it also means there is really no incentive to give them top of the line gear

[acoustic osprey]

AE

[vagrant wyvern]

I'd disagree with bullpup guess frankly. My guess would be something along the lines of Springfield armory M1A (specifically SOCOM looks like a decent match), however the sling is attached way too far down the stock to be an M1A unless its been modified ofc

[acoustic osprey]

Honestly, I don't think it's anything

Honestly, it has weird proportions

[strange shell]

It's a fictional gun made to look like a real-life one
Or it's just a concept-art sketch that was just meant to look vaguely like a gun, not a specific one

[acoustic osprey]

And/or

[light flare]

crack open a dictionary and find the word "conjecture"

[icy onyx]

They worded it like it was fact.

[old stone]

They said they were "jumping off into conjectureland"

[chrome acorn]

Also started the sentence after with “if”

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[light flare]

Alternative and even crazier idea: Mercs are replicated under a long-standing DRM contract. Their mind and body are an NFT in a God-Machine that can be reconstructed on demand. They have no human rights and nobody cares about using them as disposable tools.

[acoustic osprey]

but but, AE

[light flare]

How in control are AE anyway? I just kinda assumed they'd lost control and ditched the place.

[acoustic osprey]

If they're sending Gen 2 back (noting that they aren't Mercenaries)
They either have a good amount of control or are on the brink of getting control now

I mean, they have active running trail cams

You don't have the same cameras running for 30 years or so

[light flare]

I didn't think about that but it makes sense. That indicates active surveillance.

[acoustic osprey]

So you'd need some sort of "maintenance"

Unless trail cams aren't canon

and AE are just sending Gen 2s to constantly die

I'd be more in incline that AE have no control if Gen 2 were actual humans (mercenaries)

Why care about spending a few coin on a bunch of killers?

But no, AE seem to care a bit more.
Gen 2 seem to play as "tests" rather than a militia

[light flare]

Maybe they just can't trust outside talent. Private contractors can reveal information to competitors.

I figure it'd be cheaper to find some dead-end mercs than to print a human being tailor made to fight dinosaurs.

[acoustic osprey]

If they didn't, even so, why not give Gen 2 weapons?

Rather than just a torch and (if still confirmed) a knife?

With trail cams though.
It seems like AE loves surveying.

I can definitely see Gen 2 being a more close and personal surveillance

[light flare]

Gen2 might have to be made on-site. Maybe AE has extremely limited access to the Replicator.

[acoustic osprey]

Serving for more than just that

[acoustic osprey]

in Spiro and/or Gateway?

I'd highly doubt it unless we see any sort of art showing AE's active "presence" in Spiro and/or Gateway

"Presence" as in actually rebuilding and refurbishing

rather than the mossy, overgrown and destroyed buildings we've seen in art and models in-game

[light flare]

Yeah, the place has facilities to manufacture living things but not munitions. They'd have to bring that in from outside.

[acoustic osprey]

I'd say, just from speculation until we see anything suggesting likewise, that AE made Gen 2 off island

Although, I can see Gen 1s being made on island

[light flare]

Fair, but if I were sending in biologically manufactured supersoldiers I'd arm them up like Navy SEALs before they got to the island. They have to have their equipment dropped in and the player has to spawn on the island. Luddonarrative dissonance maybe?

[acoustic osprey]

Yet, they aren't armed like Navy Seals

So they, AE, likely has a good amount of control over Spiro and/or Gateway

and that they see no need to give them weapons

So we'll have to see why AE left in the first place

either in strategic or just simple fleeing from someone bigger/more dangerous

[light flare]

Place your bets: Corporate death squads, psychic mutants, or genius raptors that open doors.

[acoustic osprey]

and I'd doubt Don would ever serve a contrasting narrative with gameplay.
He is quite the perfectionist

[light flare]

I'm imagining that they have to get a foothold on the island and get into its systems to make Gen2 at all. There seems to be some kind of centralized logistics infrastructure that can move replicated beings. If they get into that they have their Easy Bake Army.

[acoustic osprey]

I doubt they have to make Gen 2 at the islands

[light flare]

I presume they need the replicator to do it. Dunno how proliferate that tech is but I didn't get the impression there was more than one. It's usually referred to as singular, THE Replicator.

[acoustic osprey]

I don't see why they'd need the Replicator

if they could make Gen 1

Unless The Replicator was once a mindless tool used by AE

then turned savage

But, then why would it make Gen 2 for AE?

And from the sounds of it.
AE explicitly made Gen 2

[light flare]

Is it the Replicator itself that went bananas or some kind of administrative AI?

[acoustic osprey]

We don't know

[light flare]

Could be all of the above.

[acoustic osprey]

we have barely any idea on what The Replicator is, wants, etc

It's likely that The Replicator could've existed before AE
Maybe AE made her
Maybe Replicator helped AE once

[light flare]

It might still be playing out its original intended purpose.

[acoustic osprey]

who knows

we'll wait and see

and from the sounds of it, Tribals still praise her

[light flare]

if something kept bringing me back to life I'd praise it too, and die a hundred deaths for it

tribals make a wonderful defense mechanism for the machine

no fancy guns or equipment necessary here, just make them strong enough to wrestle a bear and set 'em loose

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/sea-of-thieves-sot-ferryman-ferry-of-the-damned-sea-of-the-damned-gif-19209548

Replicator Sea of The Damned niche

Wouldn't be bad honestly

You die? Get your buds to revive you

I presume, so it isn't abused, for another sacrifice

But it wouldn't be necessary really.
Unless that Tribal had great perks (?)

That depending on if that'd be a thing.
Or the only thing that makes a tribal "better" is it's weaponry

[light flare]

just leave out the parts of the human brain that don't like gnawing on raw flesh and bones in a dark corner of a cave

I do wonder what purpose a sacrifice to the Replicator would even have, or what it would demand. Strains? Genetic data from freeborn dinosaurs?

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/get-wet-wet-pirates-of-the-caribbean-davy-jones-ha-gif-17865873

(Afraid to be a cannibal?)

[acoustic osprey]

Eyeless.
Well, we know you wont be sacrificing yourself to be rewarded

[light flare]

oh I meant from the lore standpoint, what purpose the Replicator has for proposing or accepting a sacrifice

[acoustic osprey]

Who knows

[light flare]

if it's still doing research it wants data, but it could also just be self-aware and completely bonkers 🤷‍♂️

[acoustic osprey]

Replicator AE niche

(wants to survey)

There are many routes you could have The Replicator go down

This isn't a story game
You don't need standard evil robot antagonist

[high elbow]

What are you guys talking about

[acoustic osprey]

Replicator could, herself, be quite complex.
AE seems it as evil.
But in reality, she's a lot more

[acoustic osprey]

lore. Mainly The Replicator possibilities

[high elbow]

Well, the lore part was obvious

😂

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[high elbow]

Replicator? Some dino generator or smth?

[acoustic osprey]

who knows really

[light flare]

3D bio-printer & machinegod

[acoustic osprey]

an AI that replicates

Replicates what?
We know that names for things in the isle have meaning

[high elbow]

Now it sounds like that one movie where machine was creating machines

What about power tho

We saw zero thermal or water powered generators

[acoustic osprey]

When asked, VisualTech said he couldn't tell us

[light flare]

there's underground facilities, maybe geothermal?

[acoustic osprey]

G.U.T.S. ❤️

[high elbow]

If there was one then we would've saw it

I mean at least the enter

[acoustic osprey]

we knew that underground facilities will exist

With how AE powers it's islands, we don't know

we have likely seen it in art or haven't

The G.U.T.S. is canon but doesn't have proper art yet

[high elbow]

Still the bio printer idea sounds unrealistic

[acoustic osprey]

unrealistic? To what manner?

That it's impossible in reality?
Bad story telling?

Anything, in a story, can exist.
Just has to surpass the worldbulding laws

[high elbow]

Where does it get resources to create dinosaurs

[acoustic osprey]

Which, by The Isle's standards, The Replicator existing isn't impossible

[acoustic osprey]

We do not know what it replicates

[high elbow]

Is the replicator thing confirmed or is it just your theories

[acoustic osprey]

Confirmed till unconfirmed

[high elbow]

What

[acoustic osprey]

well, no.

It's quite confirmed.

There are things that are in the middle of "confirmation"
Bench sitters. Basically anything from 2019-2020

[light flare]

it's what the tribals worship and there's some kind of sigil that is probably tied to it in-game right now

[acoustic osprey]

But Replicator was more recently talked about

[high elbow]

Damn

[light flare]

major lore retcon, legacy lore getting pruned

[acoustic osprey]

The Three are back

[high elbow]

The what is back

[acoustic osprey]

Echidna, Colossus and Reaper

[light flare]

Hyper Colossus, Tisso Reaper, Echidna/Mastermind

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[high elbow]

Echidna

[acoustic osprey]

yes, exactly that

[light flare]

so that's the three strains re-confirmed, since Echidna is pretty obviously Neurotenic

[high elbow]

Hedgehog strain

Who needs mastermind when you can become a hedgehog

That is obviously cooler

[high elbow]

Hedgehog solos

[acoustic osprey]

"Carrier" = Echidna 🙂

[light flare]

I wonder if Troods will get strains 👀

[acoustic osprey]

maybe

[high elbow]

Compy strains pls

[light flare]

2 foot tall spiky mob

[high elbow]

Hypo compy

Gets into opponent and eats his insides

Sounds creepy

[light flare]

troods had big brains so maybe neuro, opens doors and mimics speech

or whatever neuros do to communicate? telepathy or something I Dunno

[last hazel]

https://media.tenor.com/GE7P2QyDOqAAAAAM/allosaurus-the-isle.gif

[terse heart]

the man scrolling on tiktok

[acoustic osprey]

woman

Weird proportions.
But yes.

Unless we can just call her "it"

With it having motherly traits

[mellow solstice]

Ooo what if neuro would have the ability to mimic sounds

[acoustic osprey]

Troodon

[mellow solstice]

Utah too prob

[rapid chasm]

k15 is on a cliff

[acoustic osprey]

yes

don't worry, I've made this assumption too

and at least a good tree tall

[rapid chasm]

no its the truth

[acoustic osprey]

Yes, I know

which makes me wonder

if it is or will be connected to the G.U.T.S.

would there a cave system bellow?
And elevator system?
Or a drive down?

[chrome acorn]

Spooky elevator shaft

[light flare]

interesting design choice to attach a mammalian name to it but also take away its mammalian sex characteristics, also all of its hair 🤔

[acoustic osprey]

No idea if Echidna will be it's canon name or not anymore

as you know (The Isle)

[acoustic osprey]

Pretty much

[severe raft]

lol what's the dino going round in circles around the nest?

[green swan]

It’s a compy, they’re going to eat eggs

[agile whale]

its trying. Cant quite get there though

[severe raft]

Nice

[harsh cairn]

whats with the cube

[light flare]

Psi-Cube, commune with da replicator

[acoustic osprey]

Maybe

Who knows

[last hazel]

Primal Carnage

[sonic rampart]

Hm?

[last hazel]

looks similiar right ?

[sonic rampart]

Not particularly

[severe raft]

The back part of the skull looks wrong

[acoustic osprey]

our Spino? Barely

do they both look like Spino? Well yeah

but we know PC (Primal Carnage) is no longer tied with Evrima (The Isle)

[surreal cliff]

@acoustic osprey i figured out what the replicator is (its dondi)

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[regal locust]

I actually made the comparison as well. To me it looks super similar aside from the nose, but, it's just a skin morph made by someone as a skin type of deal. Nothin' really official.

[acoustic osprey]

Nor could it be

could it ever be

Seeing as Isle will not be linked with anything other than The Isle itself

PC? No more, etc

[icy onyx]

@acoustic osprey

Steamdb

[rustic halo]

I think we should ask @calm vale about this please respond @calm vale please transmit #transmissions @calm vale

[icy onyx]

MY GOD CHIP

[oblique surge]

You need to let go

[acoustic osprey]

nice

[edgy pike]

It’s been 7 years the accident wasn’t your fault

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[mellow solstice]

Primal carnage extinction sucks on console cause the devs don’t care about the console version at all

[rustic nexus]

^

[slow delta]

I think constantly rebooting the isle lore is a waste of time for us compilers

We had a good thing going and then bam not only another reboot but not even any new substantial lore info to replace it

[acoustic osprey]

Tell me about it lol

But it's only roughly the third lore reboot

What's happening right now is dondi confirming and unconfirming speculations

[light flare]

we aren't even in the big leagues yet, Legacy of Kain retconned its own lore like every single title

Amy Hennig, A++ writer she is, built it into the plot

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

Kinda disappointed that we aren't getting a proper "story"

But I understand

A lot more work to put a proper narrative.
And it'd be something Dondi would more so decide when The Isle is closer to being finished

[light flare]

yeah and it's also sometimes better to not explain everything.

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

I've always imagined though it could be something similar to how Sea of Thrives does it

Definitely not "linear done movie-like narrative"

But still, a story rather than a world with history.

[dense arrow]

Let me take a different approach here. For lore discussion, do we think there is a place in Isle Lore for more "cryptids" such as Jose here, being that Ben has already largely been adopted as canon?

[icy onyx]

Hopefully.

I really like the idea of it to a certain extent

After all, errors in experimental design of genetic testing are very common

Variability is immense with animals as large and complex as the ones used by AE

things can very frequently and very easily go wrong

Which would mean ‘unviable’ (death on arrival) organisms

Or unfertile, horrible monstrosities

Like Benjamin

Dunno how would that translate from lore to the game though

I am really excited to learn more about AE overall

[cinder shoal]

Oops, we put too much tisso in this one, guess it’s a living blob of cancer

[icy onyx]

BLOBS WOULD BE AMAZING.

AI that act like blobs

Blobs are multiple organisms that act like one

They can digest one another and things like that

Replicator mindset

However at this point we aren’t theorizing anything, but speculating blindly

[sand seal]

Hive minded creatures are a cool idea, but not super relevant to the dinosaur sim - yet.

[fringe marsh]

yet

There was hyper tree concept art right? Just have hyper fungus or something.

[cinder shoal]

Neuro fungus that tries to mind control your dino into being absorbed.

[icy onyx]

I meant as AI

Hive minded AI

Which is somewhat possible with UE5

[abstract dove]

[acoustic osprey]

?

[icy onyx]

Niagara

[swift dagger]

Wasn't Utahs new name revealed?

I can't seem to remember what it was

[sonic rampart]

Omniraptor

[swift dagger]

Ah, thanks for jogging my memory

Kind of neat that they actually changed it now, I wonder what the new Utah will be like

Think itll be feathered or something like that?

[rustic halo]

Yeah new Utah is going to be aimed towards accuracy

[light flare]

Neurotenic Ophiocordyceps

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-discussion

[sharp agate]

troodon hive

[acoustic osprey]

A Murder of Troodons

[thick oasis]

you mean slime molds? or is there something called blobs lol

[icy onyx]

yes

They’re not ‘molds’ (they aren’t fungi)

They’re colloquially called blobs

[thick oasis]

I know they aren't mold
That's just their name

[icy onyx]

Are planning on renaming spino?

[acoustic osprey]

No

But Utahraptor? Yes

[icy onyx]

Dam just asking cause spino looks like a hybrid between spino allo and Rex

[icy onyx]

Because there’s 2 I believe

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[acoustic osprey]

We'll just be getting the rename and "accurate version" for Utahraptor

[icy onyx]

I kinda want that for spino. It would add to the lore. Think about it an imperfect version of spino and Utah

Like the early stage of dinosaur development for the company

[void apex]

I mean

that is glossing over the fact that we have no idea how this games paleontological canon actually is

these could theoretically be 1:1 replicas of the real life animals in the canon

or they could be imperfect or just mutated versions

purposefully or unpurposefully

[upbeat seal]

It might be simillar to JW with the DNA of the dinosaurs filled in with other animals, making them look diffrent from actual real life counterparts

[maiden sundial]

Well really from a lore standpoint they aren't even dinosaurs

[acoustic osprey]

Depends if Hope. still contains any insight to the lore of The Isle

[upbeat seal]

How so? Do you mean they are just lab created monsters with the labels of "Dinosaurs"?

I still cant wrap my head around why they were created in the first place. Was it to see what prehistoric life was like or some other reason

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[acoustic osprey]

Well, we have some sort of understanding that Strains were done for Medicinal reasons

taking in that there is a lot of Greek meanings behind this game, Apollo Engineering being named after Apollo the God of Healing, amongst other things

[light flare]

There seems to be more than one reason. As Lightclaw said strains were medicine-related. Art for the Quetz includes a cyborg version that may or may not be military-related.

The Replicator as we've come to understand it is essentially the pinnacle of biological engineering technology. Apollo could have been contracting its biotech services out to anyone with deep pockets to funnel money into its creation.

[acoustic osprey]

From the looks of what AE are doing "currently" it seems to be mostly surveillance based

[light flare]

Aye, and that Quetzborg might be a part of that surveillance. Would stand to reason, at least.

[acoustic osprey]

Would play to the most reason, at the current moment

[boreal path]

devs havent deinied the truth of hypo dryo...

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/its-only-natural-natural-palpatine-prequel-gif-20003800

[upbeat seal]

Is there a type H strain for every creature?

Type h beipi?!

Wait thats just a semi equatic theri

[acoustic osprey]

No

[upbeat seal]

Which ones then? Other than rex giga and spino.

[novel kindle]

Utah and carno

[upbeat seal]

Ah alr

[boreal path]

then again hypo dryo has not been confirmed or deinied sooooo...

[acoustic osprey]

It was never even mentioned

besides that Herbis wont get Hypers anyways

[boreal path]

Explain to me why this isn’t irrelevant

Bozo

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/highfive-hyped-pumped-excited-good-job-gif-15272537

It's not irrelevant as Dryo is a herbi
and we know we're not getting hyper herbis

[boreal path]

Dryo is a carni that kills rexes for fun

[acoustic osprey]

ah yeah, I forgot

sorry

[boreal path]

So your point is irrelevant and invalid but I appreciate the apology

[acoustic osprey]

thank you

[mystic rivet]

When no dryo players :

[severe raft]

The Hypo Dryo from Anthomnia's latest Isle video looks like Jakapil but with less osteoderms but sporting two horns

[acoustic osprey]

still continues to misspell the name lol

[severe raft]

What

[acoustic osprey]

Every Anthomnia video = Hypo

[severe raft]

[acoustic osprey]

It's mostly just that in terms of medicine and science

"Hypo" would not be correct

Pretty much the equivalent to saying that Humans in The Isle are Mercenaries

[severe raft]

So it's supposed to be called Hyper/Hyperendocrine then?

[acoustic osprey]

aye

[severe raft]

Right

[acoustic osprey]

Makes more sense.
And fitting.

Obviously you can continue saying Hypo

but , whatever you want really.

[severe raft]

[acoustic osprey]

just, to avoid confusion and any issues.
But, I wonder what a hypo would look like

[hexed flax]

They would probably be skinny fat because they have a slow metabolism

[strange shell]

Since hypers are giant, spiky and always hungry I guess hypos would be tiny, smooth and almost never need to eat

[acoustic osprey]

Aka. dead

[strange shell]

neuros maybe
And tisso if it still exists in some way

[acoustic osprey]

Tissos reconfirmed

[upbeat seal]

I know what neuros and hypos do, but what do tissos do?

[acoustic osprey]

Something along the line of stealth, most likely

[acoustic osprey]

[acoustic osprey]

Hypers

[turbid egret]

Excuse you

[light flare]

makes you fast, spiky, and poisonous? Tissoplastic Reaper apparently used to be a person 👀

[upbeat seal]

👀

[acoustic osprey]

same as Echidna and Colossus

[light flare]

the hell were they feeding the Colossus

[acoustic osprey]

food

[long onyx]

ur mom xd

[light flare]

rimshot

[long onyx]

🥶🥶

[light flare]

[knotty locust]

spinach

like Popeye but he kept eating spinach with no rest

and so, my theory of the colossus being a mutated Popeye has been revealed

[normal lichen]

Igcshvsvgihisogs

[violet compass]

The reason that your screen has glitches near the buildings >_>

It's because of the chip each dino has, since back when humans inhabited the island they needed to stay safe, so if dinos came too close to buildings the chips would shock or otherwise hurt them to make them go away. But since the humans are gone, and most of the signals and other equipment is long dead or gone, all you see now are little glitches in you Dino's vision as the chip attempts to do it's old job -

[acoustic osprey]

Legacy lore

It was mostly an afk reason

[hexed flax]

@acoustic osprey so the new jungle map is Gateway.

[acoustic osprey]

We know, don't worry.
But it's not just jungle too

Redwoods, swamps, arid (potentially)/highgrounds, Cycad forest

[hexed flax]

In your document it did sound like the arid map was gateway. I personally don't think that arid will be in gateway because otherwise it would be too big

[acoustic osprey]

It is quite big (Gateway) as far as we know

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/958431158574678076/1027015621646499910/Screen_Shot_2022-09-28_at_8.25.54_am.png
With a similar looking area at Bridge on Gateway

[outer verge]

Oh so "gateway" is literally just a completely new map?

[void apex]

yes

[outer verge]

Well thats disappointing

Maybe it at least has some interesting lore aspects

[void apex]

I just like the fact that we're not stuck with spiro anymore

but yeah it probably has a lot to do with lore

hence the specific name "gateway"

Dondi wouldn't call it that unless it was a figurative or literal gateway to someplace or something

a gateway to tartarus perhaps, if tartarus is still a thing

or a figurative gateway for AE into the whole creating dinosaurs thing, that this is where they started

we do not know exactly why it is called gateway

[outer verge]

Well it sometimes seems dondi does many "interesting" things just for the gotcha moment. Wouldnt put it past him. Maybe the island is just shaped like a corridor

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[acoustic osprey]

disappointing? Not at all
Spiro was crap and a big failure

No point trying to fix something already broken 10 fold

[outer verge]

Cant disagree with the latter

[void apex]

incredibly based lightclaw take

[acoustic osprey]

From the sounds of it, we have Colossus
so Tartarus is still on the table till confirmed

We know technically Gateway is "Apollo Gateway"

So, it's an artificial name

But we'll have to wait on why it's called Gateway, as said before

[woeful chasm]

Do we know if/when we might get a lore dump?

[void apex]

nope

[strange shell]

June

[rustic halo]

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/toy-story-security-monkey-gif-26460039

[edgy pike]

https://imgur.com/i0pJfLz

[woeful chasm]

I know that sounded like an eta question but I remembered when June was thrown out as a possibility so it was more about if anything else had been 😛 relax guys!

[acoustic osprey]

That being because Don was away with stuff

[exotic jacinth]

Lore

[glad anvil]

Maybe

[light flare]

wasn't spiro a placeholder in the first place?

[acoustic osprey]

No

Well yes? But no

Spiro replaced Spero due to it being due big
Then Spiro became the main (only) focus till update 3.5 when Jace came along

Spiro was going to get Region 2 and Redwoods

I'm glad we didn't
It probably would've been bad

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/bw6pn.gif

[acoustic osprey]

fair

[pseudo fable]

It was close to the idea then.

[acoustic osprey]

interesting

[edgy pike]

So the uhh

#isle-phase-three message

The thing

[acoustic osprey]

not lore related

[edgy pike]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-bateman-american-psycho-thinking-gif-26344443

[blissful forge]

Oi dondi... I was waiting for the troodon Jump scare in that video

[wide wave]

MMMMMMMMMMM yes lore

[pseudo fable]

Jumpscares are for the weak that think startling someone is the same as making them afraid.

https://tenor.com/bhDEJ.gif

[icy onyx]

Troodons are more for the benefit of the doubt like shrodiners cat it could be dead or alive or both only way of knowing is when you open the box same goes with troodon but only you need to spam 1 call as a juvi to find out if their not there or there

[signal forge]

But- what about deinosuchus jumscares-

[acoustic osprey]

unintentional

[acoustic osprey]

I was actually going to talk to myself here last night about The Replicator

[sharp knoll]

Altar... interesting

[acoustic osprey]

Basically on the same lines about the sacrificing

But I'm too sick and I'm going back to my tv

[sharp knoll]

Get better

[acoustic osprey]

Although it's an interesting though

[acoustic osprey]

Change it to you better

[sharp knoll]

But you are sick

[acoustic osprey]

Thank you, I'll probably talk about my thought process later

Ciao

[sharp knoll]

lol

[acoustic osprey]

However

[sharp knoll]

I will not talk about my legs tho

[acoustic osprey]

🫵

[sharp knoll]

They hurt like... can't describe I just can't feel them

[sharp knoll]

Drink a lot of water, it will help

[acoustic osprey]

Aye

[sharp knoll]

Anyways this is not a theory so we should stop talking off-topic stuff

[rustic urchin]

me and the boys sacrificing random people to the ai god at the altar

[pseudo fable]

"One With the Tribe" by Bonnie Grace needs to be playing in the background for that.

[light flare]

I wonder if these altars are something we build or if they're something we have to seize control of. 🤔

Guess it could be both: Geographical locations suitable for building altars.

[vocal violet]

I wounded what you happen if you sacrificed an animal instead of a tribal or human?

[acoustic osprey]

Well we know you'll have to be sacrificing something
Not yourself

So who knows
Maybe the more valuable the better the reward

Which... Is along the lines of what I'll be theorising later today

[exotic jacinth]

Lore

[acoustic osprey]

<@&933486433342222376> spamming it

[loud gate]

Lightclaw cleaning lore theories

Good

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/toy-story-security-monkey-gif-26460039

[loud gate]

^

[turbid egret]

My Theory is The Isle

[loud gate]

Only serious theories pls

[spark crescent]

Bro it so obvious the whole isle is being controlled by dryos and the dryos that survive transcend and join the dryos in command.

[rapid chasm]

fr

the dryos have the brains, the world is controlled by dryos

their just really racist and hate other species so they keep them on a island ]

[light flare]

[laughs in Trood]

[spark crescent]

[rigid prairie]

[icy onyx]

:|

[icy onyx]

The dilos are their spy’s all I ever hear at night are dilos it must mean Dryos can speak dilo

[acoustic osprey]

Alright

Tribals

The Replicator

We all know now that Tribals sacrifice things, at an altar of sorts, for The Replicator

But why?

This is no simple religion
The Replicator has a physical, not metaphysical, presence

Either on Gateway and/or Spiro (or other)

So, unlike Tribal men of the past, sacrificing things to "God" (The Replicator) has a real and actual upfront reward

[strange shell]

Being mutated into a stronger form has been deconfirmed ?

[acoustic osprey]

From this we come to question again
What do we sacrifice?
And
What purpose for The Replicator?

[acoustic osprey]

We know you'll be rewarded
We just don't know in what way at the moment

[strange shell]

Maybe Replicator collects data from the DNA of the sacrificed being

Or it just enjoys being worshipped

[acoustic osprey]

Could be
Could be to create something
Could just be simple pleasure (would be better storywise for a better explanation, it's rather simple)

Obviously
We have no answer

But. Just a good thinking point.
What is she cooking? Or she isn't cooking anything. It's just for pleasure.
Who knows

This isn't a proper story game. Just a world with lore. So storybeats isn't a priority, so pleasure side is still alright.

Just curious.
Been curious whilst sitting on my bed, sick.

As Transmissions once asked

What does a machine dream of?

What does a machine want?

To create a body like Robot from Invincible?

[edgy pike]

Matrix route of the machine wanting to be alive?

[acoustic osprey]

Coincidence lol

But yeah
Who knows

Does Gen 2 allow her, coincidentally, to become what she wants

Because, Gen 2 is technically the better Gen 1

Albeit, less naturally stronger

[edgy pike]

Was thinking seeing as there doesn’t seem to be many active machines/automated vehicles on the island, if the replicator wants bodies back to gather data from, having tribals bring them to the altar is probably quite handy

[acoustic osprey]

Oh yeah
Force labor

Would make sense

I feel like she wants something from whatever the Tribals are sacrificing
It makes the most sense

[edgy pike]

Yeah

[acoustic osprey]

But
Not the first time "the most sense" was right

[edgy pike]

And chucks in “rewards” too maybe (like gradually becoming the eyeless or something idk)

[acoustic osprey]

Shame that we wait for more information

[edgy pike]

#isle-lore-theories experience

[acoustic osprey]

Oh yeah why wouldn't you
Want someone to obey your orders? Give them a treat

[acoustic osprey]

The fun of waiting

Know it all to well, sadly we do

I presume Gen 1 aren't that brain dead

[edgy pike]

That was what I’d gathered from back before transmissions was kil

[acoustic osprey]

If anything they can sense that The Replicator is powerful

[edgy pike]

Ye

[acoustic osprey]

Oh yeah
Sadly it's a shame it's dead. Good info to show someone who doubted fundamental aspects of lore

Oh but! Oh but! How do you know Gen 2 are the humans!?

Oh I must've made it up.
Sorry

Person with the most messages on this server ||if you include the past account||? Pft, no way. You're just an insane discord user 🫵

However, I'm glad Don comes from time to time and gives a word or two.
Or even gif