isle-lore-theories

[acoustic osprey]

most likely

[loud adder]

Phase 1 is the creation of the basic game (tech demo)
Phase 2 is the devs being transparent and the addition of basic mechanics in the game
Phase 3 is only a theory so far

[acoustic osprey]

Phase 2 would be the name dropping/Hope Trailer of Evrima

[loud adder]

Yea, December 20th, 2019

[acoustic osprey]

Who knows what Phase 3 really means

[loud adder]

We'll figure it out.

[acoustic osprey]

hopefully

[loud adder]

I hope we get more stuff in phase 3 rather than once every week.

Just whenever a dev wants to post something, it's in there (akin to very old phase 2).

[acoustic osprey]

🤞

[loud adder]

I would also love to see another Q&A channel like what we had in 2019-2020

[acoustic osprey]

same.
I guess that's a lot more tedious for Punch
But who knows honestly

[grand pier]

the isle dev team gets cancelled by twitter tomorrow, project shuts down 2 days later, and we never know the lore or what phase 3 is

[acoustic osprey]

oh

[rapid chasm]

humans

and

buildings

[acoustic osprey]

likely not

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/the-big-lebowski-thats-like-your-opinion-man-gif-15076479

[nocturne cosmos]

Lightclaw spending his life trying to keep isle lore alive until lore drops

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[sharp knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/and-who-told-you-that-eh-who-said-that-tell-me-more-billy-butcher-gif-15588415

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[sharp knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/sounds-like-youve-got-a-little-bit-of-a-moisture-problem-love-teasing-flirt-billy-butcher-karl-urban-gif-15588113

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[grand pier]

isle lore theories

[icy onyx]

will read when I get a chance

[acoustic osprey]

Thanks!

[shell remnant]

nice job on the doc

[acoustic osprey]

Thanks Comrade

[icy onyx]

I hope they add new dinos to phase 3

[acoustic osprey]

Wrong channel

[sly notch]

Can someone inform me about the lore?

[acoustic osprey]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wRF05lnHGo1OQe3ovpZ0PaHolKFNHLxjDaxuGvxhaow/edit?usp=sharing
Sums up what we know

[sly notch]

I don’t even have the game yet

[loud gate]

uh

[sly notch]

But I’m so interested in it

[rustic nexus]

Talking about G.U.T.S possibly the one we saw in taps concept art could be one?

[void apex]

the tunnel concept, yes.

I think it was even called "generic tunnel", although I might have to check that up

[sharp knoll]

Generic Underground Transportation System

[acoustic osprey]

The tunnel shown in Visuals stream?

[rustic nexus]

I think so

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/664914260648001555/872617843936616498/image1.jpg?width=884&height=663

[void apex]

think that is more of a bunker than an entry to the guts

but hell, what do we know?

[icy onyx]

Have to admit, GUTS is a cool name for somethn like that

[void apex]

Indeed

Dondi probably thought of the acronym before the actual name

since that is what one should always do, much more fun that way

[edgy pike]

doesn't GUTS refer to both manmade and natural ("natural"?) caves so could include anything thats connected up under ground

[void apex]

Generic
Underground
Transport
System

I would assume it is only the manmade tunnel parts

I would assume those tunnel concepts are of the guts

it only makes sense

12 meters tall, ish, being taller than brachi

with an absurdly large train

this is G.U.T.S

but I don't think the bunker is

it might be an entry point, but I doubt it.

[acoustic osprey]

Most likely

[acoustic osprey]

Sadly it's the actual name of the place

Rather, Dondi's mental name for it

[acoustic osprey]

Well
Dondi called the GUTS as a way to connect caves and tunnels

[echo gazelle]

where's this from?

[acoustic osprey]

Visual Tech stream

I should put it in my doc

[nocturne cosmos]

yes put it all in dah doc

[echo gazelle]

the sheer size of that tunnel reminds me of this (old)

[acoustic osprey]

Oh yeah

https://youtu.be/jD0j2jh7-JE

(Don't know if you can see the embed. But we got to see multiple Concept Arts)

[echo gazelle]

Nice, I remember talk of monorails before

[acoustic osprey]

yeah

pretty fun stuff honestly

[muted hill]

The only time I remember seeing monorails before the guts was on an old map of legacy v3, which also had the placement of different buildings such as botanical gardens, hotels and paddocks, which always left me wondering was/were any of the islands once a theme park for public enjoyment not a secret like we often assume? Becuase theres also old concept of cafes and other buildings you might expect too see at zoo or theme park.

such as this one, its very old now so I doubt it means anything

[acoustic osprey]

Very old concept art by Iron Belly

Which no. I presume those were Scientist/Engineer Villages

[muted hill]

Oh true I didnt think about worker villages

[acoustic osprey]

yes

as cool as the concept art they made

it's more than likely gonna be ignored and forgotten

Seeing as a lot of the "newer" concept art for human buildings have a VERY different artyle (in terms of the design)

[muted hill]

yeah that one looks very futuristic compared to newer ones

[acoustic osprey]

definitely

[green swan]

The buildings now look kinda retro

[acoustic osprey]

As it fits lore a lot more

And a lot more appealing for this type of game too

[gentle vessel]

And makes more sense, why would a lab islands buildings working with multi ton animals look all fancy?

It would make more sense to go pure utility and make em beefy as hell

[void apex]

I mean... that entry point/cave is a lot smaller than the guts now that I take a closer look at it.

It's absurd how big the guts are

First I kinda thought the monorail would be the size of a regular monorail, ya know?

Sorry for the obnoxious red circle, but just to point out how big a human is here

Just the tunnels of the GUTS are easily, as of now, the largest human structure in the game, easily outclassing the Dockyard

even though they aren't in the game yet

I am curious as to why AE would need such absurdly large trains for such a tiny island overall

because if it is to transport dinos I would almost get it

but why not do that via jeep?

Since those tunnels are large enough to actually fully house a Brachiosaurus standing at a neutral pose

It's crazy how big they are

[strange shell]

Maybe they use the guts to transport dinos because it's dangerous to travel by jeep on an Island full of dinosaurs
(assuming the security systems are operational) it's much safer to travel underground

[void apex]

well yeah

but.... how do you get them back up again?

you'd need one hell of a escalator to push up something like an Allosaurus

let alone stuff like a sauropod

[strange shell]

Well if they can move a 20 meter-tall monorail that probably weights several hundreds of tons by itself they probably found a solution to lift the sauropod inside too

[gentle vessel]

Giant lift

[void apex]

I guess

but like, entrances would have to be incredibly obvious with giant contraptions to pull up the animal being released

[strange shell]

They may be obvious but well-protected

[hard birch]

Where is Isla sprio ???

[strange shell]

on Earth(?)
That's all we know

[void apex]

for fucks sake not again

<@&933486433342222376>

thank you

[edgy pike]

big The Forest vibes i hope theres a lot of creepy shit with them in the final game

[icy onyx]

the true horror of the isle is the company towns

[pseudo fable]

Old but not irrelevant.

[nocturne cosmos]

blessed be

[river ocean]

As far as I understand, the primitive / tribal have different clans that are not particularly friendly with each other, but at the same time they can stop fighting due to the fact that the replicator or echidna will wants to stop the "war" in any moment?

[pseudo fable]

Incorrect.

[river ocean]

Okay Dondi

[nocturne cosmos]

@acoustic osprey out here sleeping when dondis about

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[nocturne cosmos]

yes indeed

[acoustic osprey]

I wonder which part is incorrect

[river ocean]

Maybe the aurora exists (in isle) because there are neurotic creatures on the island in fairly large numbers?

[nocturne cosmos]

Dondi is the first or second part incorrect or both?

[acoustic osprey]

It wouldn't make sense

I honestly hope they fix it by update 5.5

[acoustic osprey]

I presume the GUTS isn't just one size

[loud adder]

THANK GOD

[acoustic osprey]

And I presume that'd be more of an entrance into the cave system more, than the tunnel part

[loud adder]

Wonder if these are irrelevant.

[acoustic osprey]

True

I hope not

[loud gate]

Thats dope

[river ocean]

Hmm reaper still in the lore?

[acoustic osprey]

The more chaotic and destructive nature of just killing things and using them as decoration is amazing

[acoustic osprey]

Well Echidna and Colossus seem to be back

So Reaper might as well

[loud adder]

Wonder if we'll get a remodel for Colossus.

[acoustic osprey]

This might be no?

[loud adder]

Would love an upgrade.

[acoustic osprey]

If Dondi was talking about the design, then he doesn't want it to change

[river ocean]

At least he looks cool)

[acoustic osprey]

Definately

[loud adder]

The design is cool. I'm talking about a model upgrade.

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[river ocean]

If you are talking about the model, then yes, but if you are talking about the design of the colossus in concept art as a whole, then I am against

[loud adder]

I love the shark face.

[loud adder]

Model.

[river ocean]

Then I think that this also needs to be reworked

[loud adder]

One thing I do want are 3d renders of the models so once we can log into the PC's in-game and scroll through documents, you can view the asset itself. That would be a neat way of gathering lore.

Kind of like SCP-Containment Breach, the new one.

I think Unity?

[river ocean]

It seems like yes

[river ocean]

In general, I'm interested in the purpose of these buildings

[acoustic osprey]

Who knows

Sacrifice ornaments?
Or is it that AE Dino bones are very sturdy

Even though bones are pretty strong

[river ocean]

||Dondi, maybe||

[trim palm]

dumb question but have we heard of apollo base before? wasnt it where the quetz was held, or was that charlie?

[loud adder]

Atrium B or C and that was destroyed in Op inferno iirc

[hidden valve]

Wth is this thing

[void apex]

H-Colossus

Giant hyperendocrin humanoid thing

[hidden valve]

Is it some weird human-reptile mutation or

Ah

[void apex]

I personally believe it is a hyper tribal, but it isn't confirmed as to what it is yet

[tawny briar]

I really hope they're still planning to add stuff like this one day

[sudden topaz]

are hypos returning?

[oblique surge]

Yes

[sharp knoll]

<@&933486433342222376>

[atomic sable]

@icy onyx This channel is for discussing Isle Lore Theories. Please keep the channel on topic

[icy onyx]

Okay

[echo gazelle]

[acoustic osprey]

Hypers? yes

[acoustic osprey]

Who knows

Testing on Gen 1 seems viable

[woeful chasm]

I thought that is how Echidna came about... but the tisso or neuro strain I think?

[acoustic osprey]

Echidna being Neuro

[woeful chasm]

and I think at least -was- the mother of tribals? (or considered herself mother...)

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

Neurotenic Mastermind- Echinda
Known as The Mother of Cannibals

In #transmissions she took the Tribals (Gen 1) in are her own children -> Giving her the name

[woeful chasm]

do we know if that stuff is still true?

[acoustic osprey]

But since dondi pretty much said Transmissions is useless with the account being deleted

[woeful chasm]

ah

[acoustic osprey]

We can't use that anymore

So, very fun

[woeful chasm]

like you read my thought process lol

[acoustic osprey]

lol

We do know that Echidna and Colossus are reconfirmed

[tender shard]

It is cool that isle have his own king kong but more reptilian than monkey

[woeful chasm]

right, just not what their role is anymore

[acoustic osprey]

besides one thing

https://tenor.com/view/dee-strange-gordon-travis-darnaud-gif-25377283

🎃Lightclaw?🎃 — 26/07/2022
Missed it by that much

Dondi — 26/07/2022
No. I gave you the answer actually.

(Her ability/what she can do that others can't)

Apparently, it's supposed to be very obvious

[tender shard]

Wait a second,v rex skull?

[acoustic osprey]

v rex?

[tender shard]

I was just pointing out the similarity

[gentle vessel]

Those skulls DO look kinda v rex like, even if the label there says T. rex

Due to the shorter snout and rougher texture

[acoustic osprey]

It's also done by another company

[gentle vessel]

Well ye, but the similarities are there, probably an inspiration

[acoustic osprey]

working against perspective and art that no longer represents what we have today

[tender shard]

So joke stretched out

[grand pier]

throw stuff???

[acoustic osprey]

Without proper hands, likely not

[tender shard]

By the way,were there any tribal concepts for evrima other than a few rock carvings?

[acoustic osprey]

A few artworks

[red river]

Wtf

[tender shard]

[red river]

Its ugly

[hexed flax]

A baseball thrown by a human doesn't hurt enough to make another fully grown and fit male adult faint.

Because of that i believe that Echidna can change or manipulate what other beings feel or how they perceive things.

[acoustic osprey]

to be honest, I feel like it's the reaction

[hexed flax]

Wdym?

[acoustic osprey]

paralysis

or some sort of KO

[kindred surge]

depending on how sci-fi this becomes it could also be telekinesis and throwing rocks with that

[acoustic osprey]

maybe.

Most likely no

[kindred surge]

Or it could be related to the "Inspiring Confidence" Banner

Maybe some sort of buff around her for the tribals

[acoustic osprey]

true

being "The Mother of Cannibals"

[kindred surge]

It would be a cool mechanic for humans to have them watch their mental state with something like a fear bar raising around dinos or something, and the Mother reduces/negates that with her power

[acoustic osprey]

(Tribals)

but maybe.
Who knows. Sounds quite tedious

[strange shell]

You guys don't get it
Echidna is the guy in white on the video
Her special power is to feign death

[acoustic osprey]

that feels very lacklustre

and gameplay wise? Would not work

[strange shell]

This is the lore theories channel, not gameplay theories
||(it was a joke)||

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/punisher-the-punisher-frank-castle-marvel-cause-i-liked-it-hell-i-loved-it-gif-24009360

[regal locust]

The ability to kill things at range. 🥸

[acoustic osprey]

[nimble raft]

🐷

[mystic rivet]

Someone fill me in on the whole lore so far of the isle cuz I kno none lol

[dawn verge]

^Same here. Trying to find a good video or something of the story so far

[mystic rivet]

If u find a good one send it to me

[dawn verge]

Will do

[severe raft]

Grinch

[dawn verge]

I'm surprised it isn't easier to find, it seems like this game would be perfect to dig into for all those types of channels

[strange shell]

Lore is being remade
We're just waiting for Dondi to drop it

[dawn verge]

So any lore from the legacy version doesn't apply to EVRIMA? Or can we still make loose connections?

[strange shell]

We don't know what stays and what's been scrapped
strains, humans and tribals stay

[void apex]

We can make loose connections but they don’t hold any ground until confirmed by Dondi himself

I think Lightclaw is making a big project around lore theories

So I’d check that out once it drops

[dawn verge]

Gotcha. Seems like a good point to join in then. I've found some loose info on how its possible we are human consciousness uploaded to the dinos, I've just started with evrima so I have no clue about anyhtng with humans as I've never played them but I understand there are primitive and modern humans as well as weird dna hybrid horrors

[void apex]

The primitives aren’t really human as of what we know

They are likely the “Gen 1” humans created by AE who turned out to be failures

[dawn verge]

Interesting. so would the moderns be human clones geared and sent to the island?

[mystic rivet]

I will also join the lore now

So far we got human lore

I get it’s being reworked so

[dawn verge]

I just found my newest rabbithole and its even less explained then the days of scouring for articles on kingdom hearts 1 lore

[mystic rivet]

Rip lol

[void apex]

Pretty sure, that’s at least a solid theory. Can’t remember if Don confirmed it.

[woeful chasm]

Honestly I still used Meatylock’s lore videos as the main basis and then the two google docs from there

Sounds like the bigger things may still be relevant but others not so much

[loud adder]

^

[echo gazelle]

[loud gate]

Oh new mod

[sonic rampart]

Lunch has been around for like.... actually forever

anyway

[sonic rampart]

It almost looks like a camera but I feel like that'd be way too obvious

It's gotta be something else

[echo gazelle]

Hi thank you

There’s an old GIF that has a similar look

[muted hill]

Whatever it is, it also appear in these painting from many years back, these are official IIRC, I often just assumed the replicator or something given that the tribals seem to worship it.

[loud gate]

Hi. You were retired and came back? Or I have missed you all this time lol

[echo gazelle]

Nah I’ve been around but just don’t talk much anymore

[loud gate]

Fair

Its sad I haven’t noticed you even tho I spend so much time here

[echo gazelle]

haven’t seen this in a while

[muted hill]

I have some rather old stuff saved on my phone of all places, like the strain plants

[echo gazelle]

i was more talkative like 2018 early 2019

[loud gate]

I wasn’t there yet. Joined in 2020 started talking October or November 2021

But I used to spend half of my day here lmao

[echo gazelle]

Nice, but yeah the painting looks like the top of this entrance too but not really

[loud gate]

Dondi said it could be G.U.T.S. entrance

[echo gazelle]

Did he? Must’ve missed that. Afaik he said the image is old but not irrelevant

[muted hill]

seems very... sacrifical for a transport system entry, unless in lore tribals belive it something else?

[sharp knoll]

No, that doesn't look like an entrance to the G.U.T.S. and Dondi never said that entrance is to G.U.T.S.

And that actually was suppose to be for an old map that he was working in legacy.

[loud gate]

.

I understand it could be part of GUTS

And that’s clearly entrance

[muted hill]

the carvings on the sides of the gate look like those eyeless lads, maybe some sort of "ascension" cave for tribals to become eyeless?

[sharp knoll]

It was suppose to be a tunnel like a maze and inside of it there was a lot of dust. I remember Dondi was streaming, showing those tunnels maybe I can find the picture hold on.

But it's very old

[muted hill]

I think I remember that stream

like really tight caverns right?

[sharp knoll]

Maybe

[sharp knoll]

Unfortunately I couldn't find it

[dawn verge]

Okay now that I've devoted the last 6 hours to the map and the rest a nap, I've left with more questions then answers.......😂 🤣 😭

[acoustic osprey]

already has

[acoustic osprey]

no, not really

MeatyLock has a few videos

but now they're old.
Transmissions is now irrelevant. Everything gone.

[nocturne cosmos]

now we wait and cry untill lore drops

i wonder if they will do the whole talking using the website shit

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[acoustic osprey]

Maybe.
Most likely not in the "Transport system"
But the cave system connecting to The G.U.T.S.? More likely

[acoustic osprey]

and you'll likely find nothing of interest on the map by searching

Done so using Admin Spec.
Nothing of interest

[echo gazelle]

welcome to theories

[rustic nexus]

Time to untheory the lore

[rustic nexus]

When was this used

I haven’t seen it until now

[rustic nexus]

Possibly leading to this?

Or something like it

[echo gazelle]

it’s very old, such as the image you just posted

[rustic nexus]

Ah

[acoustic osprey]

definitely

Although the design of that tribal is probably the best Tribals art work

the cave opening? Probably something Tribals made during AE's "abandonment" of Spiro

[sharp knoll]

Yeah

But is old

[maiden shuttle]

Personally, I don't think at this point of the timeline the Tribals would be under AE's control, assuming they had the ability to breed in the wild.

[acoustic osprey]

Definately

Most likely, AE lost control of Tribals before/during they lost whatever control they had of Spiro

[uncut hinge]

my theory is that a company revived the dinosaurs and put them on an island and several cameras were installed and sometimes they were broken by the dinos and humans had to go there manually to fix them but not everyone made it out alive

3 islands

[shell remnant]

you do know that the humans in the game are also genetic creations, right?

and some of the other lore

but aside from that, yeah some of that statement is probably true

[uncut hinge]

so some humans are genetic experiments that are sent to the island to see the behavior of dinos so they can be domesticated

[acoustic osprey]

Hmm

[acoustic osprey]

👍

[maiden sundial]

Dondi said that this might end well for the AE

Its likely not

[acoustic osprey]

And

[maiden sundial]

Since playing god without being extremely careful about playing it. Can lead to consequences down the line. Especially if humans are being genetically modified

We can create life just not control it.

[acoustic osprey]

They likely failed with Tribals

Then learnt their mistakes with Gen 2

[maiden sundial]

They've learned from there mistakes. But what if the gen 2 are. Too perfect?

[acoustic osprey]

Who knows

[maiden sundial]

Nobody

I'm going full ian malcolm on this

[acoustic osprey]

Besides Dondi

[maiden sundial]

Maybe even dondi doesn't know

Not yet at least.

[acoustic osprey]

I'd presume he does

[maiden sundial]

Its best to not presume as it can lead to false judgements

[acoustic osprey]

He definitely knows what he wants

Especially as a story teller, knowing the basis of your story is essential

[maiden sundial]

Unless it does could mean a multitude of meanings. If it does for example

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

Dondi isn't a linear character

[maiden sundial]

You cannot be certain with anything when it comes to the isle unless its proven or disproven

Much like politics in a way.

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[acoustic osprey]

Updated the Doc

After rereading this comment.
This definitely means a lot more than what it seems

Not only does Dondi allude to the possibility of Gen 2 being the more "successful" adaptation of AE's "Human Gens"
but also might've confirmed that Gen 2 ARE genetically made humans

Not just contracted Mercs and not just genetically modified already born humans?

[strange shell]

I wonder tho
The more we learn about lore, the less they seem to be mercenaries
Why call them mercs then ?
Tribals at least form tribes, so it makes sense to call them tribals

Maybe gen 2 was created out of mercenaries DNA ?

[acoustic osprey]

who knows

I try not to call them Mercs without actually highlighting that they're not mercs

[icy onyx]

I mean I kinda assumed they were test tube creations

[acoustic osprey]

The devblog always call them Gen 2
It's pretty much the same as Hypos

They're not "Hypos" (wouldn't even exist if they were literally hypos )

[strange shell]

Maybe to ensure they know how to handle guns, but it's kinda stupid because gun handling isn't written in your DNA
Unless Dondi goes off that theory that things we learned during our life can then be written in our genes ?

[acoustic osprey]

Well, Gen 2 don't spawn in with guns anyways

[oblique surge]

It comes from older ideas that AE was paying people to go into the island to maybe retrieve lost data or stuff like that
But now that seems very unlikely, I am personally calling them Gen 2 now

[acoustic osprey]

it's still a very very old theory
Pre-2018 basically

[nocturne cosmos]

were is the lore lightclaw

[acoustic osprey]

here

[maiden sundial]

The gen 2 could become more self aware due to them being humans and realize what the AE is doing

[loud adder]

Probably like Vought

Steal babies

Drug em up and they become test tube babies

[void apex]

I don't think so, since dondi doesn't wanna make Apollo super evil

and stealing babies is usually considered just that

I feel like they are more complete clones, considering they are all the same age. Meaning they likely come from the same batch.

[rustic nexus]

This kinda reminds me of the clone wars

[sharp knoll]

Halo

[loud adder]

When did he say this?

[void apex]

Earlier today

Or maybe yesterday depending on timezone

[acoustic osprey]

Maybe

But likely not

[woeful chasm]

I think it’s safe to say that at the moment we really don’t know what it is

Maybe @acoustic osprey could make a theory, but most of the previous lore is no longer canon. We mostly have some characters/companies and that’s it

Previously stated in here by others and I believe bits and pieces that Dondi has said as well

[acoustic osprey]

Likely this
AE used Spiro around 30-40 years ago
Something happened
Now they're gone

Hence why we see a ton of weathering

But that's just assumption

[woeful chasm]

(Apollo Engineering)

[acoustic osprey]

^

[woeful chasm]

With SOS calls to support something not great happened

[acoustic osprey]

Definately

Even alluding to B-443

[woeful chasm]

I was just going to ask about B-443 and B-442 were still a thing, Alphonse and all that

[acoustic osprey]

Luncha decoded a "new" Morse code track some time ago

Said something along the line of SOS and B-

[woeful chasm]

Oh interesting I hadn’t seen that

There is an SOS that plays at the radio tower in evrima I believe

[acoustic osprey]

A "recent" Morse code track

[woeful chasm]

Not sure if that is the one Lightclaw is referencing but I know there is one there

[acoustic osprey]

If you would go to the radio tower at Spiro

Or any human location really

Yes

There are multiple new ones
But they all say the same lines

Yeah

SOS and B-

Likely B-443

[woeful chasm]

As two separate words? Like “SOS B-“ and it gets cut off?

[acoustic osprey]

Unless I misheard from Luncha, yes

[woeful chasm]

The poor operator that was trying to radio out, got killed mid message 😛

[acoustic osprey]

I'll ask Luncha again just for some validation though. I'm no good with Morse

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/dennis-nedry-wayne-knight-jurassic-park-ingen-movies-gif-24822829

[woeful chasm]

🤣

At least the operator was trying to send a warning instead of sabotage

[acoustic osprey]

And you're not wrong about that assumption

[acoustic osprey]

True that

[woeful chasm]

If I remember right B-443 is the hyper rex?

https://tenor.com/view/life-found-a-way-it-happened-it-worked-miracle-surprised-gif-16077110

[acoustic osprey]

Big daddy

So PC's Rex (Magna)

AE made a living and breathing sustainable ecosystem

[woeful chasm]

Ah right, I was going to correct it but decided not to lol

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[woeful chasm]

The more “perfected” of the two

It’s more the theme of “playing god”

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[woeful chasm]

Or ends too well

[acoustic osprey]

🤭

"Too good to be true"

It was all a dream

[woeful chasm]

Like movies where they want to “perfect” human kind or force an evolution… what happens when you make that happen and you realize you have no control

The island is a whole lot darker than that too

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/jurassic-park-jurassic-gif-7496067

[acoustic osprey]

Even more darker then the JP books

[woeful chasm]

https://tenor.com/view/seth-meyers-get-out-of-my-head-angry-mad-rage-gif-10501626

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[woeful chasm]

I do wonder if those “watching” cameras will be back… always creeped me out

[acoustic osprey]

I do wonder if AE still observed after they supposedly "lost control" of Spiro

Bad code, long story
Legacy was doomed middway due to how they developed the game

Evrima is a lot more in-depth them Legacy too

[woeful chasm]

That could be… I imagined most things were running on backup power “unless there was some crazy low maintenance automated power source being used

[acoustic osprey]

True that

We did ask Visual about Spiro's "power source"

He told us he wasn't allowed to tell

So, who knows
Nuclear

[river ocean]

||Fan fact: in The Isle russian community almost no one knows about the replicator at least even the name||

Maybe they didn't even lose control? And just decided to leave from spiro but leaving the cameras

[acoustic osprey]

Understandable

[woeful chasm]

I could picture Dino’s and tribals being in, and just before Gen 2 arrives, the power/distress calls go dark… kinda like AE needs to send people in to see why they have lost all communication

[acoustic osprey]

Lol and true.
We don't know, so maybe!

[acoustic osprey]

But that's still a bit, hm

As we know, Gen 2 aren't getting weapons

So why Gen 2 are on Spiro is still a large kafuffle

[woeful chasm]

Could be the next part of the experiment? See how Gen 2 fairs now that spiro would have “stabilized”

It could be possible AE doesn’t know the extent of mutational horror on the island (referencing the plants and such)

[river ocean]

By the way, is AE a commercial company or are they some kind of organization that does not pursue the goal of making money?

[acoustic osprey]

The humans... Mercenaries

But they're not Mercenaries

[acoustic osprey]

AE might think they're sending Gen 2 to test their survivability without realising

Yes and no

[acoustic osprey]

No idea

They are a corp, I believe

Ciao

[river ocean]

Cyberpunk momemt...

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[river ocean]

I think that for AE, making money is a secondary goal

[acoustic osprey]

Likely

[river ocean]

As far as I know, we don’t know who founded AE, maybe some kind of semi-crazy scientist who believes that pity and humanity, on the contrary, interfere with the development of science

[woeful chasm]

Could be

[river ocean]

And really look at what AE has achieved, they are a bit technologically superior to us

[echo gazelle]

One of Apollos symbols in greek myth I believe was the phoenix and phoenixes die, burning themselves into ash and are reborn.

[river ocean]

Like they can always come back?

[woeful chasm]

Kinda like sacrificing yourself to the replicator to live another life

[river ocean]

Speaking of the replicator, is it artificial or is it a natural object?

[echo gazelle]

essentially yes, whether dying of old age or what not, they’re reborn beginning a new life, phoenix links to phoenix international, PCs company In Theory

[oblique surge]

As far as we know it is an AI created by AE
Think GLaDOS

[river ocean]

It's an even bigger cyberpunk moment....

[river ocean]

I wonder how much such a project would cost in real life

[oblique surge]

Many many moneys I assume
But money seems to be a very small concern for AE

[river ocean]

Rather it's more like AM i think

[oblique surge]

Maybe
It probably wasn’t supposed to gain sentience
I just referred to GLaDOS cuz I know more about her

[river ocean]

But AM couldn't create organic life

[icy onyx]

U 5.5 will happen in 5 minutes'

100% real no fake

🤑

[grand pier]

uhmmmm im gonna have to ban you please do not be offtopic,,,

[river ocean]

<@&933486433342222376>

[icy onyx]

ayo what

;-;

[river ocean]

That off-topic

[grand pier]

bro what the fuck

[sand seal]

Wow, that’s a dumb thing to do.

[rustic nexus]

Do the trail cam vids have dates on them

[void apex]

nope

I have tried to figure out whenever the hell they were filmed and if we can understand if they are in a chronologic order

Is the Pachy one before or after the other ones?

Are the trailcams actually active after the island was abandoned or evacuated or is that just something they left behind?

if they are during the islands AE occupation, the pachy one would likely be after, since instead of a trail cam it is a field observation

and filmed by handheld camera, with a crew

however we just can't tell with the info we have rn

[rapid chasm]

Maybe isla Spiro is a preserve, having a human area and a dinosaur area?

[void apex]

Actually, the layout of spiro sorta half suggests it, and I can't remember if it is true for all human buildings but they all have this sorta cage around them

no roads to avoid disturbing the animals

heavy gates on the dockyard and tall walls potentially hinting at it

not sure on how they'll put in the aviary we saw in a devblog

since it is the only thing not following the format

it seems to be the only thing that's supposed to actively contain animals instead of keep them out

[echo gazelle]

was there mention of which Atrium it is?

[void apex]

Which atrium? No, don't think so.

[rapid chasm]

I mean, in the lore theres atruims.

Atriums.

[void apex]

these things with incredibly amazing designs, yes.

[rapid chasm]

Yes.

[grand pier]

maybe itll be in another map and not this one

[rapid chasm]

I think it fits spiro

more, as i think that it would the jewel of AE.

[void apex]

"And lastly, I want to showcase, the Aviary. Which will be soon featured in the game."

All which was mentioned about the aviary.

[rapid chasm]

Its true.

[rapid chasm]

Jeez thats cool.

[void apex]

using the idea that those little squares are meters, it's 85 meters in diameter.

[rapid chasm]

Yeah but, one the support beam things there looks to be steps.

on*

[void apex]

Don't think they are

most likely some fancy vent design

[rapid chasm]

Doesnt look like a ladder?

[void apex]

since otherwise that is tiny

[rapid chasm]

eh

I agree.

[void apex]

It does, but where does the ladder lead? Why's it there? Why aren't they all the way to the top of it.

Looks like a ladder but doesn't have the properties of one

[echo gazelle]

unique design compared to this one from V3

[void apex]

V3 one was kinda ugly now that I look back at it

[echo gazelle]

I wonder if that will be THE atrium

meaning from before when V3 was being worked on it was said it will house the main atrium

[grand pier]

yeah

it looks... bald

[acoustic osprey]

No

[acoustic osprey]

Not yourself

From what Dondi said.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wRF05lnHGo1OQe3ovpZ0PaHolKFNHLxjDaxuGvxhaow/edit?usp=sharing

[woeful chasm]

ah good to know

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah

[rustic nexus]

Idc sacrifice all boar ai to the replicator

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

Probably other Tribals and Generation Two

[rustic nexus]

What about dinosaurs

The island is filled with them

I assume the bigger the offering the large chance you get of being favored

[acoustic osprey]

Likely not

But maybe

[rustic nexus]

Ah

[hexed flax]

It's an AI that controls the replication process of the dinosaurs

[vague root]

We don't really know for sure aside from it being some kind of machine that can grant power for sacrifices

[rustic nexus]

We dont know the specifics but we can assume you cant just sacrifice yourself or the ritual may not work

[outer verge]

So you have to kill X amount of creatures that amount to Y amount of "XP" and you get a power up once you reach that. Seems like a simple enough power up system?

[acoustic osprey]

I don't think it's a power up system

but yes

[outer verge]

Getting stronger sounds hella lot like a power up. It may not be called that. There are those empty dna boxes I assume they would be located in.

[acoustic osprey]

empty dna boxes?

[outer verge]

Yeah on the left side of the info screen?

Actually they might not be there anymore

Not sure

[acoustic osprey]

maybe

[acoustic osprey]

If at all, can a mod pin my Lore Doc?
No worries if you can't/don't need to. It's mainly just so I can easily refer to the doc whenever someone asks about anything lore-wise that is "recent"

NO LONGER IN USE - use Rumple's doc, as I also edit such and update it.

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wRF05lnHGo1OQe3ovpZ0PaHolKFNHLxjDaxuGvxhaow/edit?usp=sharing
Will be updated every-time Dondi, #isle-phase-three or anything else occurs

[echo gazelle]

Sure, don't see an issue with that

[acoustic osprey]

thanks!

[river ocean]

"2. Able to cause temporary paralysis/or an insta-death?"

I think Echidna can also cause some neurodegenerative diseases of the brain

[acoustic osprey]

Oh yeah

[river ocean]

I wonder if the world knows what AE is doing on their islands?

[acoustic osprey]

Same

[river ocean]

I think it's tribals/someone else's idea of what a replicator looks like

[acoustic osprey]

Alright, updated some formatting and added the section for the new map

Seeing as Filipe pretty much just confirmed it.
Although, do note that the name "Isla Velada" isn't confirmed and may or may not actually change

Who knows... could be a placeholder

[icy onyx]

@acoustic osprey Question is tribals having slaves a thing

[acoustic osprey]

Likely not

But maybe
They're still cannibals and still quite likely very mad/chaotic

[icy onyx]

Is it like a thing in lore though?

[acoustic osprey]

Going off what's said about them being cannibals by Dondi

but being crazy and chaotic?
#transmissions

[icy onyx]

Okay thanks, just needed to know if it was even a thing so I could reference it for something

[acoustic osprey]

k, no worries

[icy onyx]

also was it like human or dino slaves

[acoustic osprey]

IF anything, Tribals till Gen 2 arrived

[icy onyx]

hmm alright

[acoustic osprey]

Although, I'd see Tribals sacrificing a lot of dinosaurs and tribals for their own benefit

for The Replicator

[rapid chasm]

yo i think the utahraptors got olympus transmitter

poor dude

[acoustic osprey]

got it and told Dondi "No more Transmitter"

[rapid chasm]

veiled island

[acoustic osprey]

(Removing mutants for Transmitter)

[rapid chasm]

i think i know what gen 1 and gen 2 mean

[acoustic osprey]

Gen 2 = Mercs (Humans)
Gen 1 = Tribals

[rapid chasm]

maybe gen 1 is mercs

because Generation 1 sounds more like humans and not tribals

AE probably wanted to create the prefect human but failed

[acoustic osprey]

Gen 2 are confirmed to be the Humans

seeing as the file name for the humans in #isle-phase-three are called "Gen2_1" and "Gen2_2"

[rapid chasm]

ah

[acoustic osprey]

yeah

[woven hound]

was reading through the strains wikipedia page. They were talking about something called the matriarch in reference to this photo?. Couldnt find a single result for it

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah, because we barely have anything on about The Matriarch

[woven hound]

so do we just know the name?

[acoustic osprey]

Mostly

[woven hound]

did some more digging. Apparently theres concept art?

[acoustic osprey]

Unofficial

[nocturne cosmos]

i though those were the old ass island walkers bones

[woven hound]

huh. always thought tapwings stuff was somewhat official

[nocturne cosmos]

tapwing made art before she became a dev so alot of old stuff may or may not be offical at this point depends

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[rustic nexus]

^

[acoustic osprey]

Before she was a Dev

[nocturne cosmos]

yee

[woven hound]

ah

also this has me questioning. the H- that has to be related to Hyperendocrin right?

[nocturne cosmos]

yaaaaaa

[acoustic osprey]

Yes but that's old lore

[woven hound]

iv been reading up on this. god the isle lore is far more complicated then i thought

[nocturne cosmos]

everything is old lore at this point

[woven hound]

game theory when

[acoustic osprey]

Besides my doc

[nocturne cosmos]

besdies lightclaw doc

[acoustic osprey]

[woven hound]

Lightclaw lore expert?

[nocturne cosmos]

yes

[acoustic osprey]

Sometimes

[nocturne cosmos]

most of the time

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[woven hound]

gonna split my discord and google dox pages to read this while talking. im assuming im about to read the isle lore bible

[nocturne cosmos]

kinda

[acoustic osprey]

As good as HellShades doc is
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1wRF05lnHGo1OQe3ovpZ0PaHolKFNHLxjDaxuGvxhaow/edit?usp=sharing

[nocturne cosmos]

but new and has theoires in it

[acoustic osprey]

No point reading old legacy stuff

[woven hound]

honestly. the isle is gonna be so terrifying if they were to add any of that old legacy stuff. glad thats gone

[nocturne cosmos]

well not gone we just dont know what is and isnt still a thing

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[woven hound]

just read through the doc

wow i really dont know whats going on anymore. also was that the godamn company from primal carnage?.

[nocturne cosmos]

yes

they were in the old lore

[acoustic osprey]

Phoenix International

[acoustic osprey]

And new

Well, "current"

[woven hound]

sweet. 2 of my favorite dinosaur games (note the Of lol) have a semi cross over

[acoustic osprey]

with that

[icy onyx]

I think that dinosaurs that we play as are actually 5 year old kids toys and he's just fantasizing this In his head

[coarse tapir]

yes

[icy onyx]

Beacuse WHY ARE DINOSUARS from DIFFRENT zones togheter

MY THEORI W

[rapid chasm]

WAIT

SINCE WERE GETTING ALL THE HUMAN THINGS THE OLD HUMAN LORE MIGHT BE RELEVENT

[nocturne cosmos]

Might be we don’t know yet

[marble ridge]

god i hope so, that map has no personality

[magic drift]

hi

[astral shale]

i need a recap

[acoustic osprey]

No

Legacy is scrapped

And the transmitter were deleted

I definitely think Dondi wants a second go

[icy onyx]

Naked roll raptor

[finite lintel]

Uhh

Why the silence

[slow delta]

Time to update my lore doc with phase three stuff i guess

[celest marten]

Lore? What's lore?

[slow delta]

The story

But i dont like putting pointless previews in my docs, its for more concrete info or stuff that needs decoding

[loud adder]

Are you going to mention the transmitter being deleted?

[slow delta]

Where was it deleted? The #transmissions channel still exists

[loud adder]

The twitter account.

[slow delta]

Ah probably not, i dont like to speculate too much in the doc. I just report concrete info that holds meaning to the lore. But i dont see why dondi is doing a 2nd reboot of the lore when he supposedly has everything written down and planned smh my head

[loud adder]

Yea, it doesn't make sense unless in lore wise, the transmitter has been destroyed.

[slow delta]

dont get me started on the fact that there are 2 transmitters and one joined discord channels playing morse while the other shitposted on twitter

[loud adder]

kek

[gentle vessel]

The replicator decided to pull a tzeench and troll the people who do lore lol

[strange sand]

Does anyone have an idea of the story so far? I’ve looked up videos and reddits and stuff, but couldn’t find anything recent or up to date. Feel free to pm if you prefer

[nocturne cosmos]

if you go into pins you can see hellshades doc that conatins a bunch of the old lore

right now we are kinda in limbo since lore is being reworked

[strange sand]

Ah I didn’t know that, I was curious where they were going with it so that’s good info

[acoustic osprey]

Well, dondi pretty much said it's of no use anymore

But that's still fair

Although, I'd say it's more so not just shut down. But just no longer of any use

[slow delta]

Honestly i dont trust dondi because he keeps changing his mind on lore issues

[acoustic osprey]

I'm only going on what's current

Seeing as everything lore wise is all Dondi

Anything can happen

So pretty much

Innocent until proven guilty

[hexed flax]

Didn't Dondi say that he has written a script that has so many pages that it could be turned into a book? Why doesn't he stick with it?

[acoustic osprey]

Being Dondi, anything can change

But I'm definitely not doubting it

[light flare]

My interpretation so far is: Biotech corporation develops groundbreaking genetics procedure they use to recreate dinosaurs. At some point they created the Replicator that I assume can process vast amounts of data and mass produce living things. In the process of their research something went wrong and their Replicator seems to have achieved personal agency, self-awareness, or both. It purged anyone that posed a problem to its goals and may have convinced some of the staff to become its servants, essentially cultists, and it has granted them some form of eternal life through replication. These are the tribals.

There's others here who have tracked the lore much better than I have so I could be way off. There are details that are unclear, like whether it's the Replicator itself that has consciousness or potentially an Administrative AI that has access to it. Neurotenics are said to be able to influence technology so that might be relevant.

[acoustic osprey]

Yes and no
Tribals were made by AE

Although nice theory

[light flare]

The reason I got the impression the Replicator seized control of the staff is because some of the lore mentions "profiles" that are somehow written into organisms. The profiles appear to be some form of psychological evaluation or possibly a neurological record of a person. Granted I think the only lore bits I saw mentioning it were alongside mentions of unusually intelligent dinos in one containment area and normal dino-brained ones in another.

[acoustic osprey]

Yes, which was likely more alongside the theories of "Human brains in the dinosaurs"

However, that's all old legacy lore

All dubious really

[light flare]

Yeah old loading screens if I recall correctly.

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[slow delta]

yeah but let's be honest, that's probably not the case seeing as it takes months for us to get the smallest, least useful lore clues

[acoustic osprey]

At least Dondi has been more open the last month

[strange shell]

If only he did not communicate with gifs exclusively...

[acoustic osprey]

Luckily some of them weren't so critical

[rustic nexus]

But still no drop

[acoustic osprey]

[edgy pike]

What was that thing someone said ages ago about temporal RNA that Dondi reacted to

Back when the evrima trailer came out

[icy onyx]

I said that the beginning of the year

Who scrolls back that far

LOL

Use the profile notes

I was?

By who

Oh

Ahhh you prefer to harass ppl you block? Aww yeah that’s sweet

Ok

[slow delta]

Get your drama out of #isle-lore-theories

[icy onyx]

Anyways
Tribals r cringe. I dig the replicator 😏 reminds me how much I’m looking forward to The Forest sequel

[sharp knoll]

#offtopic-discussion

[icy onyx]

I think ur posting in the wrong channel buddy, this is isle lore theories

[sharp knoll]

You are complaining about tribals, you are not saying theories, buddy.

[ocean sedge]

^

[acoustic osprey]

^

Use this channel for appropriate lore discussion.
Not opinions on your favourite thing about The Isle

But for now, I need to add the "AE aren't evil company" to my doc

We have no idea honestly

I don't think AE are "Good company" nor "Evil"
I presume AE are morally grey

the same probably with PI

whatever Phoenix does in PC/PCE is not truly canon in The Isle

we can speculate, for sure.

[echo gazelle]

might’ve been this

[acoustic osprey]

the games? Can't say

there was a PI logo, yes

[edgy pike]

Yeah that’s the one

[acoustic osprey]

About how Mercs and if they age

yes

[acoustic osprey]

Basically, Dondi alluding to the possibility that Mercs ARE genetically made

no

they wont age (in-game)

SOS

and a B or -

goes with every new track

honestly, no clue

who knows

Probably whenever Don reads this channel again

Isla Velada, I hope, sometime by the end of the year

Hoping that the name HAS meaning to what it is in-lore

No

Just leaks, really.

It's likely that'll be the name unless they decided to rechange it for any reason

hopefully, I'm more so just waiting for the next Phase Three. Hopefully something we can look at properly

Besides that it's NOT novaraptor, no

[sharp knoll]

Appoloraptor

[acoustic osprey]

an actual good name

[sharp knoll]

or

Neoraptor

[strange shell]

It can be called "Raptoraptor"
So it makes sense to just call it raptor

[acoustic osprey]

I know some people have said "Apollovenator"

I doubt it wouldn't have raptor in it's name though

it's the same as current utah

the "Paleo utah" will likely be fatter, larger but slower

[sharp knoll]

Neo

[acoustic osprey]

Neoraptor just sounds weird honestly
Wouldn't make sense unless, in-lore, it was made around more contemporary/present times

[strange shell]

btw I hope the thing will get downsize (in terms of weight) once it's no longer cosplaying as a utah
Cuz 450 kg for such a scrawny thing that is barely taller than a dryo is ridiculous

[acoustic osprey]

Yes, definitely

[strange shell]

If they make an actual Utah they better make it feathered

[acoustic osprey]

well yes

I wouldn't see why not

[edgy pike]

is that arid beipi screenshot comfirmed to be the new map?

[acoustic osprey]

yes

at least, Filipe confirmed new map

[edgy pike]

well whatever it is itll be nice to have a change of scene

spiro is certainly one of the maps ever

visually very nice but a bit wacky in terms of layout

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[acoustic osprey]

<@&933486433342222376>

[tranquil willow]

@acoustic osprey no one asked

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/walter-white-walter-white-meme-heisenberg-heisenberg-breaking-bad-breaking-bad-gif-26006988

[acoustic osprey]

Jeffry did

[tranquil willow]

ok good point

[acoustic osprey]

Sorry

[atomic sable]

@tranquil willow Please keep the channel on topic. This channel is for Isle Lore

[tranquil willow]

that is isle lore

[loud adder]

Good thing I saved the video before it was deleted

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[icy onyx]

Why does funny dino survival game have lore!?

[sharp knoll]

#offtopic-discussion

[acoustic osprey]

because every good game should have a proper story behind it

at least, some subtext

[tender shard]

[shell remnant]

because yes

[stable apex]

Lore is fun

[rapid chasm]

Utahraptor Spiroiss

name of dinosaur + island name = fancy science name thingy

or you can call it Utahraptor Apollois

[loud adder]

Not how taxons work lol

[shell remnant]

Utahraptor apolloensis would work MUCH better

[hexed flax]

Or make it easy and just name it AE-raptor

[shell remnant]

Apolloraptor!

[hexed flax]

Yes

[shell remnant]

that'd work great

[hexed flax]

Sounds good too

[shell remnant]

or Spiroraptor

NOT Spinoraptor, Spiroraptor

[void apex]

Spiroraptor makes very little sense since it isn't only on Spiro, hell, it might not even have been created on there

Apolloraptor makes sense if they would want to brand/monetise it, I mean... why else would you name an artificial species after your own company?

Neoraptor I guess makes some sense too... ish. It is the new raptor, a species they came up with themselves, but that would also basically only make sense if the other species weren't almost completely artificial too, which they are.

[shell remnant]

yeah, true.

Apolloraptor bestis

[acoustic osprey]

Neoraptor 50/50

[shell remnant]

Or even Novaraptor from PCE

[void apex]

Dondi specifically said it wasn't a Novaraptor

[shell remnant]

ik, but it'd be cool if it was part Novaraptor

[void apex]

Perhaps it is, although idk how far entangled PC and TI lore go together anymore

[icy onyx]

okay I was a with friends and where that spot is at coasts where the water pool is there's a cave near and I went in it when I left I heard clicking like a cannibal so I think there is a cannibal in the cave and comes out at night

[shell remnant]

probably just water, or well-timed ambience

[shell remnant]

also, did you record it?

[icy onyx]

it wasnt water

i didnt record it

but it was the exact sound as when anthomia went to the aviary and went on it

[shell remnant]

Then it was just well timed ambience. I doubt it was an actual lore spot

Plus Cannibal hasn't even been added yet.

sooooooo

[icy onyx]

they have show the models for it though

[shell remnant]

Not models, concepts I believe.

I could be off tho

[icy onyx]

idk I dont remember that well

[shell remnant]

And Cannibal won't be AI

[icy onyx]

ya

[shell remnant]

It'll be something you become, from what we know so far

[loud adder]

Novaraptor apollonis is what I came up with

Its the proper term

If you’re using taxon

[void apex]

if it actually is a novaraptor that is

which dondi said it wasn't

[loud adder]

Using old lore and speculation

[loud adder]

Dondi says a lot of things

[void apex]

Yes but like, a few days ago

[loud adder]

Apolloraptor is meh

Neoraptor apollonis is better

[void apex]

Only makes sense if they want to monetise it

[loud adder]

Yea

Let me go through prefixes

[acoustic osprey]

Maybe

[alpine whale]

Its not an theorie but what too you think about an suchomimus who fish but over water and he grab an how a pternadon but on land u know

or what is with an Deinonychus who can climb on trees and jump on an another dinosaur how an carnotaurus

or what is with an Majungasaurus who can bite in the throat or who can stump little dinos how a utah and then he can bite into the neck ?

[alpine whale]

its never live an Novaraptor xD

[light flare]

so we can have Primal Rage giant monster fights, Gendy Tartakovsky's Primal massacres, and Jurassic Tarkov all in the same game

and it will be glorious

[acoustic osprey]

#isle-discussion

[acoustic osprey]

and I don't see Neoraptor being a good possibility.
Mainly because it wouldn't really be... new?

Unless Neoraptors were made during the time of Gen 2
But still, then that wouldn't really make much sense

[safe prawn]

evrimaraptors

[shell remnant]

I think maybe something along the lines of, like, Veteraptor because 1. Sounds cool and 2. idk

[shell remnant]

no

why

please god no

[acoustic osprey]

maybe

I presume the name would still have some sort of meaning behind it though

[loud adder]

I created that term before 3.75 released given the balance changes to Utah that Hypno said in a stream.

It was just pure speculation

[safe prawn]

Magnaraptors maybe? And Type-M strain discontinued 🤷‍♂️

[acoustic osprey]

Nah

Our current Utah is still a normal playable, not a Magna

[gentle vessel]

I still say Apollovenator or apollonynchus can work, hunters of Apollo or claw of Apollo respectively

[stoic void]

Apollo thief

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[acoustic osprey]

But no

Them using "venator" puts it away from the "raptor cliche"

Whilst yes

It's still a raptor by flesh

It's juxtaposing

[shell remnant]

I do personally like Apollovenator, but personal opinion

Apollonychus kinda doesn't work.

[ruby geyser]

Apolloraptor is the most obvious one.
And assuming AE is making these Dinos for monetary gain, it makes sense as it would be the most marketable name.

[ruby geyser]

I mean, it would have been new when they named it.

[old stone]

I'm doubtful the dinos are there for monetary gain, since it seems that the islands existence is kept under wraps

[ruby geyser]

I mean right now they are secret but id assume AE’s eventual goal is to use them for money eventually

Assuming AE is a private company I couldn’t see them doing it for any other reason

[strange shell]

Science ? Progress ? Some greater goal ? Not every company exists for money only, and judging by their logo, AE seems like a medical company or smth similar

[shell remnant]

Æ probably wants to make SOME money, they probably sell information to like educational institutions. Dissecting Compies instead of frogs

I'd actually enjoy school if we did that.

[void apex]

Frogs are cheap and everywhere, Compies would be expensive to make, export and not easy to mass produce

[shell remnant]

Although expensive, I don't believe in "not easy to mass produce." You'd really just need lower growth time in their genetics, as well as a stable population, bam, easy to "produce." And shipping would probably be like larger frogs.

All I'm saying is that science class would be really fucking cool with that instead of frogs

[ruby geyser]

Not to get political, but, yeah, every corporations goal is to make money. Even when it seems like they’re doing something good out of the kindness of their hearts, it’s usually a carefully calculated decision to get publicity and therefore make more money.

Plus, I find it more fitting that the company in a survival horror game isn’t exactly the most morally correct.

Just think of all the money they could make selling apolloraptor toys

[void apex]

As far as I know, the isle’s thing is when playing god goes right, Dondi probably wants AE to be morally grey, since he dislikes the immoral, evil corporation trope

[void apex]

But why name the super secret dinosaur Apolloraptor when you can just name the merchandise that instead, doesn’t really need to be based on the animal itself

[ruby geyser]

More marketable if there’s a real animal behind it

And when scientists are all talking about apolloraptor, the name Apollo comes up a lot

[void apex]

It being called Apolloraptor would only make sense if they tried to monetize it via either a zoo-like merchandise or selling the animal itself to various buyers

[void apex]

The only people we know to know of it are working for apollo or people hacking/leaking documentation of it

Not something they’re selling, at least not that we’re aware of

[ruby geyser]

I’d assume they plan to reveal it eventually though

[void apex]

The public doesn’t know of the islands

[ruby geyser]

Otherwise why are they making dinosaurs

[void apex]

All Apollo Engineering is a bio engineering company

[void apex]

We have no clue at all

[ruby geyser]

Yeah so I’m giving my best guess based on them most likely being a private company who wants to make money off of dinosaurs (who wouldn’t?)

[void apex]

Possibly to study ancient life just to study ancient life. A lot of the isle is playing god. So creating your own ecosystem to find out how they work seems reasonable for them to do.

[void apex]

Then why make them on completely free, non enclosured islands in the middle of nowhere?

Where the dinosaurs are all mixed

With no boundaries or anything

So that diseases are free to fly about and active violence is the norm

[ruby geyser]

Studying them in their natural habitat can help with stability

[void apex]

Yeah

Which apollo likely has

How else would they fund buying islands and creating a sentient AI?

[ruby geyser]

Also it’s possible they were contained at one point but broke out

Hence why mercs are killing them

[void apex]

No it isn’t, where the hell are the fences?

[ruby geyser]

Idk about you but I wouldn’t let my employees gun down my valuable assets without good reason

[void apex]

They aren’t employees

AE likely owns them

[ruby geyser]

They’re literally called mercenaries

[void apex]

Gen2, not mercenaries

They are synthetic humans, clones

Not your average military guy

[ruby geyser]

Alright, even if they are owned by ae I still don’t see that being a reason to let them gun down my very expensive dinosaurs

[void apex]

They’re all the same age even, all created in the same batch

[void apex]

They aren’t sent to do that

At least not from what we know

[ruby geyser]

Then what are they sent to do

[void apex]

Study them, likely

[ruby geyser]

If the guns are only meant for self-defense, then why not give them non-lethal means of self defense instead

[void apex]

If Gen2 humans were created with the sole purpose to destroy AEs assets, they would probably just bomb the island or chemically bomb it instead

[ruby geyser]

True

[ruby geyser]

Though going back to this idk if they can be very “morally grey” while literally owning humans 💀

[void apex]

In the only concept we see a merc since evrimas reveal has only observed the Tyrannosaurus, in no way acting like they’d attack

[void apex]

They are probably treating them right and humanely

[ruby geyser]

Yeah but once again why give them guns and lethal weaponry when tranquilizers or nets could much better preserve your very expensive assets

[void apex]

They don’t.

You don’t spawn with guns

[ruby geyser]

Wtf??? That doesn’t make it any better 💀

[void apex]

They are found

[void apex]

In a false world with false rules where they can be as happy as possible? Isn’t that more humane than the horrors of reality?

Like having an inside cat

[ruby geyser]

You’re making some arguments that are getting scarily close to slavery arguments my guy

These are actual humans not animals

[void apex]

Think more the truman show

[ruby geyser]

The Truman show was not meant to be a good thing 😭

[void apex]

Without an understanding of what is outside, they have no reason to imagine it exists

Some people willingly stay inside their small town their entire lives

[void apex]

It both is and isn’t

Hence morally grey

[ruby geyser]

They still have the choice to leave though 😭

[void apex]

Of course

Gen2s might or might not have the same choice, we don’t know

I’m just speculating

Hell, AE might not even own them

Although I imagine they do

[ruby geyser]

Alright

So going back to the start of this argument

What do you think utah should be renamed to

[void apex]

I am quite fond of the name Apolloraptor

But it makes no sense unless they actively try to sell it in one way or another

So tbh I have no idea

[acoustic osprey]

Who knows

Devs want to?
Lore?

No one knows

[acoustic osprey]

None of the suggested do

[acoustic osprey]

Likely because the guns on Spiro weren't for Gen 2

But the pre-existing scientists and engineers

[acoustic geyser]

wtf are yall talking about

sell what

irl ? lmfao

scientist lol what ? im confused explain plz

[ruby geyser]

So why are they letting their engineers and scientists kill the expensive assets?

Unless the guns are for some other purpose

[ruby geyser]

Sell the raptors

[acoustic geyser]

In evirma ?

The heck where y’all get this info ? They’re making it to where they are Able to sell players as Dino’s or what ? Explain plz

Cause I wanna know

U be saying killing assets like what lol

[ruby geyser]

Most of this is speculation basically

What we know for sure is that there is a company called Apollo Engineering (the AE you see in loading screens) that created the dinosaurs

As far as selling dinos, I was talking about lore wise

Apollo engineering is probably creating the dinosaurs with the intent of making money off of them somehow

[acoustic geyser]

Oh so y’all think like there’s a story behind all of this ?

[ruby geyser]

It’s confirmed that there is lore

Dondi often gives clues about it