isle-lore-theories

[lusty sky]

[acoustic osprey]

Although i understand completely

Can you explain it to me once more

[loud gate]

we need more lore

[acoustic osprey]

Soon

[pale marsh]

honestly, thats a nice rule for worlbuilding, doesnt gotta be important but everythings gotta be relevant

[acoustic osprey]

Definately

Basically allow random small things, with relevance

Obviously, Afterthought existing doesn't make much sense

[pale marsh]

im a sucker for worldbuilding thru pointless details [cough the elder scrolls cough]

[acoustic osprey]

Same lol

Sea of Thieves and Star Wars with me

So it's definitely fun just finding those small things within a world

With or without a larger more impactful meaning to the story itself

[pale marsh]

would love like, a mini fake writtin language to be conjured up for tribals, would love trying to decode it even more

[acoustic osprey]

Definately

Could only imagine what chaotic human-esque languages they'd conjour

Any differences in languages if they there were differences in tribes.
If such thing ever happened later on

[pale marsh]

id hope somthing similar to runestones, or heiroglyphs carved into rocks and trees

[acoustic osprey]

Although, ~20 to 30 years cant really correlate in much change in a language

[acoustic osprey]

Well, I'm more so going off spoken tongue
But definitely

We've seen a bit of art already, which is always nice

Just, I'd always fancy seeing more

[eager coral]

Dang this place has been quiet

[acoustic osprey]

Obviously

Hasn't been boomin in ages

And no one realised Dondi said anything
Because no one ever checks

[eager coral]

Yea. I came back here to read some theories.

[acoustic osprey]

(besides me obviously)

[acoustic osprey]

Welcome aboard

But yeah, we're all waiting till Update 5.5

[eager coral]

True that. Do you remember if anyone ever talked about those underground lava(?) areas near swamp?

You can only hear them. I wonder what they are all about.

[acoustic osprey]

You mean the tar pits?

[eager coral]

Are they tar pits? They sound like lava but more gooey

[acoustic osprey]

You can actually see it in spec cam, interesting enough

But yeah, there's a tribal painting there iirc

[eager coral]

Yea I remember. Cool stuff. Perhaps tribals might use the tar in the future.

[hexed flax]

Thats supposed to be a camera

[acoustic osprey]

Could be Replicator or something else, we don't know

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah, most likely

How AE watched 👁️

[eager coral]

They know

[acoustic osprey]

Although, I do wonder if the cameras are still operational in current day?

[hexed flax]

It's weird that there aren't any cameras that follow the dinosaurs movement in Evrima

[acoustic osprey]

Excluding Mercs turning them on

[acoustic osprey]

(Well not yet, at least)

And hey Jaeger 👋

[eager coral]

You mean trail cameras or something like a drone camera?

[acoustic osprey]

But yeah, interesting to see how they'll work with trail cams etc

[hexed flax]

I have always been watching

[acoustic osprey]

As always

[acoustic osprey]

External CCTV, mostly

But who knows what other cameras lie around

[hexed flax]

No. Like on V3. There are cameras on some buildings (for example the Radio Tower) that have cameras. And when you get close to them, they start to follow your movements

[acoustic osprey]

Are the trail footage camera locations pre-placed cams?
Building cams with a high mm lenses?

[eager coral]

Would be funny if there actually were cameras but they are in the forests so nobody has noticed them yet.

[acoustic osprey]

And yeah, will it be like V3?

[acoustic osprey]

JWE2 ranger posts

Lol

[eager coral]

Lmao. Maybe.

[acoustic osprey]

Who knows

This is what I'm hoping for

Legacy but more

I realistically don't want to have to rely on Legacy's old lore

From a player standpoint

[eager coral]

They are different games at this point, but still connected idea-wise. They could alter the lore completely if they wanted to.

[acoustic osprey]

Definately

Which, to me, the better plan would be just use Legacy as the basis

And fix it and rebuild from there

[eager coral]

Someone mentioned the game's name before. Evrima. They might keep that in the main title later

The Isle: Evrima

It would make sense

[acoustic osprey]

You mean in #transmissions ?

[eager coral]

Yea legacy feels more like a base for now. Although after 5.5 it will mostly be just for idea references probably.

[acoustic osprey]

Most probably, yeah 🤞

[hexed flax]

Is it confirmed that there will be more lore with update 5.5?

[eager coral]

In this channel. You will see it if you scroll up.

[acoustic osprey]

Basically, sometime after 5.5

[eager coral]

But yea Evrima in my language (Greek) means a new discovery. Something that has never been done or seen before. It would fit the current lore we have

[acoustic osprey]

Oh yeah, that was about the name drop in #transmissions

[eager coral]

Oh I see

[acoustic osprey]

Evrima (the name) being placed into The Isle somehow would be cool

Like operation Evrima

Etc etc

It can definitely fit in both development-wise and lore-wise

[hexed flax]

Dondi deleted the message lol

[acoustic osprey]

Oh?

Are you sure?

I can still see it

[eager coral]

It is still there

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah thought so

Might be a Discord glitch

[hexed flax]

I can't see it

[acoustic osprey]

Interesting

Try refreshing discord

[acoustic osprey]

Interesting

Able to see anything under just "Dondi"?

[hexed flax]

Yes. Every message of him but this one. You did quote it though and i can see that. Just not the actual message from him

[acoustic osprey]

Wow, interesting

I promise I'm not lying about the quote, but that is weird

[hexed flax]

This is what it looks like for me

[acoustic osprey]

Interesting

[haughty meteor]

Since Isla Spiro is in spanish, it might be off the coast of somewhere like South america or mexico

[hallow widget]

IF it is on "this Earth 🌎🌍", you could triangle Isla Spiro position on the map based on what time the sun rises and sets from the sea and at what coordinates NS WE - if "improved night day cycle" is accurate to replicate in real life situations, it is fiction, too, after all.

[frigid anvil]

I did try to see where the sun actually sets and rises and I'm pretty sure it rises from north to south

It might just be that the island's placement doesn't really matter to the lore, so nobody pays it any attention

[acoustic osprey]

Just gotta wait till 5.5

Just to note
Dondi did say the isle is on "Earth (?)"

Which means the same earthly rules may not apply

[acoustic osprey]

Basically just some added information about "The Guts" (now "The G.U.T.S")

"Generic Underground Transportation System"

Which might be connected with Visual's monorail system

not really lore

[light flare]

A couple of natural disasters that throw off the Earth's axial tilt can fix that 😈

[gentle vessel]

Basically a code name for the tunnels till the name em I’m guessing

[sonic rampart]

He said it won't ever be revealed, possibly

[gentle vessel]

Fits

Since it’s just tunnels, not much else

[acoustic osprey]

Well, it's just the GUTS

No name besides that

And if the community call it that as well

[acoustic osprey]

So basically
It seems like there will most likely be one "GUTS"
being a mixture of natural caves and tunnels

Which is most likely what Visual's monorail models will be connected to

Which seems really interesting

[gentle vessel]

Could also be connected to key areas around the island as well

[acoustic osprey]

Seeing what Vis said, and that it is a "Transportation System"
It'll likely be connected with the major parts of the map

Most likely the centre and outside docks, presumably

[icy onyx]

What if we got minmi or digging dinos with caves idk I just hopped in here to look at stuff rq

[acoustic osprey]

well, sadly I feel like burrowing aint gonna be crazy big or anything

but who knows. Although that isn't really a lore theory

I am wondering how burrows will interact with The G.U.T.S and caves etc

[icy onyx]

Sadge, would be cool if there was like 10ft of dirt digging dinos could play around in, dig out little burrows and underground tunnels

[acoustic osprey]

Who knows. Both gore and burrows, in my opinion, sound too complex to be exactly like their concept art counterparts

[icy onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-boy-walk-away-cry-man-tears-gif-5637398

[acoustic osprey]

yeah

[loud adder]

G.U.T.S

General Underground Terrain System.

?

[acoustic osprey]

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah!

Not just a cave system anymore.
But also the main tunnel system

[loud adder]

Oh

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah, it's very interesting

[loud adder]

So he did tell us the abbreviation.

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah

[loud adder]

I thought he was keeping it a mystery.

[acoustic osprey]

Well, apparently the actual name is never revealed

[loud adder]

I wouldn’t mind seeing abandoned mineshafts of AE.

[acoustic osprey]

But in Dondi's "Internal monologue"
It's "The G.U.T.S."

[loud adder]

Caved in mine tunnels

[acoustic osprey]

Presuming The GUTS is also connected with Vis' monorail system

[loud adder]

And probably the bridge and road systems

The other bridge.

[acoustic osprey]

oh definitely

[loud adder]

That we saw. Basically anything dealing with ground transportation.

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/713759451836055653/993869657406722219/unknown.png

This was soo cool to see it

[loud adder]

I just don’t want a monorail system suspended in the air.

I want some abandoned tracks.

With freight cars derailed.

[acoustic osprey]

definitely

what we saw with them being underground really suited them

[loud adder]

I just want my S.T.A.L.K.E.R 2 vibe.

[acoustic osprey]

oh yeah

[stone crater]

imagining a Dryo digging a burrow and then just suddenly falling through the ceiling of the GUTS

[loud adder]

I highly doubt that would happen realistically.

You’d have to burrow through rock.

[pseudo fable]

Super cool but won't happen (based off of the information I have).

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[stone crater]

oh pfff im honored to receive a reply but i didnt expect it to!! guess ill have to draw a comic about it though.

when i picture the G.U.T.S. i imagine it looking like that one poster with the Utah and the unfortunate bastard on the car

[acoustic osprey]

I believe the tunnel Visual was working could be connected with The GUTS

[stone crater]

this

ah wonderful. it looks G.U.T.S.y

[acoustic osprey]

lol

literal guts

[stone crater]

guts in the G.U.T.S.

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/ironic-star-wars-chode-gif-5274592

[stone crater]

you've heard of the gore update, now get ready for...

[pseudo fable]

Could be.

[stone crater]

oohoo i am getting SPOILED today

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[acoustic osprey]

Just a bit of a catch-up now from Dondi

Apparently, #transmissions might just be dubious.
This pretty much means transmissions may or may not be accurate.

Yes, most of Transmissions the transmissions are from 2018. But it did name-drop Evrima in 2020

So currently. What we know is confirmed can TRULY only be decided if it's in-game or it's confirmed by a developer (Especially Dondi)

Unless anything from Transmission is explicitly confirmed/mentioned in a more "Canon" medium

[zealous apex]

so this is what the isle lore is like

[acoustic osprey]

Pretty much

You'll see a lot by me.
A few by others.

And some information from Dondi recently

[zealous apex]

very nice

[acoustic osprey]

yes

just waiting to see if some time after 5.5 that we'll see some lore stuff

[zealous apex]

oh dope, maybe you can learn where your skill issue comes from lore wise

this is a joke and im quite intrigued to see some lore

[acoustic osprey]

well we did hear about the Return of The Guts

which now sounds like it's evolved to more than just a cave system

[strange shell]

Now it's a cave system with tunnels

[zealous apex]

please explain Guts?

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/oxi-clean-but-wait-theres-more-home-shopping-gif-9592017

and even the chance for those tunnels containing the monorail system

[acoustic osprey]

Originally a cave system (Under Spire?)
Now seems to be (or was) AE's main transportation system underground

[zealous apex]

ahh very nice, AE is the researchers/ creators of all the dinos

[acoustic osprey]

seems like it

[zealous apex]

do we know if they have abandoned it

[acoustic osprey]

We don't know much
but

[zealous apex]

but????

[acoustic osprey]

(getting the images)

[zealous apex]

aight

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/664914260648001555/817576526279082004/2021_Env_Concept_Building_Overgrowth_3.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/664914260648001555/817576507932278784/2021_Env_Concept_Building_Overgrowth_2.png

We can presume that AE abandoned parts (if not all) of Spiro

[zealous apex]

i assume creating dinosaurs aren't exactly cheap so they border of the map so far we could almost just presume its a Truman effect and are behind em researching the dinosaurs, or they live underground in a facility, idk im going off not very much

[acoustic osprey]

Who knows.
They might have just a large fenced area

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/939061916272328756/996193204284170301/unknown4.png
Like this

[zealous apex]

i wonder where we have seen a large fence

[acoustic osprey]

very true

We also saw the same fence a year ago in Amarok's stream IN SPIRO

Which might allude to the possibility that there is a fenced area

[zealous apex]

me trying to figure out map names

[acoustic osprey]

Spiro is this one

[zealous apex]

a fenced off area would be cool, like maybe a dinosaur enclosure for a herbi has water and diet for some of the dinos, but its run down and not very safe or something

[zealous apex]

i remember that fence iirc it was in the game

[acoustic osprey]

I personally like the idea of it just being a full on ONE enclosure sort of deal

Basically everything interacts with each other

[acoustic osprey]

No, not yet.
Only in the Skins tab

[zealous apex]

just one large enclosure to see what different time period dinos would adapt to each other

i swear from ages ago there was that fence, i could be going crazy

[acoustic osprey]

Yes
(Including the fact that AE is a bio-engineering company. So all these animals are probably genetically made to work in the same environment as each other)

[acoustic osprey]

You might just be

[zealous apex]

its not that surprising coming from a isle player

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-stephen-colbert-report-yes-it-was-gif-4979296

[acoustic osprey]

Interesting

[zealous apex]

maybe thats why spino is the way it is, testing could have been done on the realistic one only to realise that it has no chance to compete so they just, changed its genetics to be more like sucho will also keeping the spino characteristics

[acoustic osprey]

Oh definitely.
Pretty much alike but not alike JW

Whereas, InGen made their dinosaurs for the purpose of money

[zealous apex]

sweet knew i wasnt going insane just yet

[pseudo fable]

It was put in for a very short amount of time to settle a debate of performance between myself and another member of the team.

Happy to say I won that.

[acoustic osprey]

Swear it wasn't.
Maybe I'm mad

[zealous apex]

happy to see im not delusional just yet

[acoustic osprey]

Actually I am mad

[pseudo fable]

It was in for a very short amount of time.

[acoustic osprey]

I actively use this channel

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/obi-wan-oh-yes-elevator-obi-wan-yes-aotc-gif-23605373

Makes sense

[pseudo fable]

If you lore people paid any attention...

[zealous apex]

i enjoy it here, much more calm and relaxed, while also having some intellectual conversations

[strange shell]

Aren't you supposed to be the lore guy here ? We're only here to try tyo decrypt every single word you write on this discord and make lore out of it

[acoustic osprey]

We make to many mistakes and think too much lol

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/view/joke-jk-penguin-laugh-its-was-a-joke-gif-14574338

[acoustic osprey]

Dondi is like lore director 😂

[strange shell]

This probably has a deep lore implication

[acoustic osprey]

!!!!

[zealous apex]

like the number 56

[acoustic osprey]

I blame what Filipe said many moons ago

[pseudo fable]

One day you should ask him if he knows if no or idk is shorter.

[zealous apex]

i noticed you said 57 when talking about it instead of 56

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[acoustic osprey]

Definately

A place full of wacky theorists

[zealous apex]

i wonder if AE generically modified some herbivore dinosaurs to be much less aggressive and kept them out of the enclosure to do some close up tests and research, while this is also there down fall as when they lowered pachys aggression they didnt realize its aggression level is still through to roof and caved some peoples heads in

[acoustic osprey]

Who knows how they changed the dinosaurs neurologically

[zealous apex]

i wonder how they created a spino that controls the weather?

[acoustic osprey]

Neuro spino?

[zealous apex]

yes that thing

i thought i heard something about it doing that

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

[zealous apex]

will they be coming back to evrima? do we know

[acoustic osprey]

Who knows

If Echidna is properly confirmed
Then we can say that neuros are too

[zealous apex]

https://tenor.com/view/echidna-beach-cute-animals-gif-13290983

or is it something else

[strange shell]

not this kind of echidna

This one

[acoustic osprey]

Yep

[zealous apex]

i only new like neuro spino, magna rex or something

[acoustic osprey]

Neuro human, pretty much

[strange shell]

(Very similar, do not confuse them)

[zealous apex]

+hypos

[acoustic osprey]

Mother of Cannibals (Tribals)

[zealous apex]

like the chunky bat one?

i remember seeing 3 of em

[acoustic osprey]

Three of what?

[zealous apex]

yes them

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

Echidna, Colossus and Reaper

[zealous apex]

i dont see what echidna can do that the others cant tbh

[acoustic osprey]

Hyper
Neuro
Tisso

[acoustic osprey]

A brain, most likely

[zealous apex]

intelligence, forgot that was a thing

[acoustic osprey]

Figuratively

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/view/dee-strange-gordon-travis-darnaud-gif-25377283

[acoustic osprey]

Missed it by that much

[pseudo fable]

No. I gave you the answer actually.

[zealous apex]

throw something?

[strange shell]

Also she may be able to do crazy things like controlling people, throwing fireballs, or idk what

[acoustic osprey]

Interesting

[zealous apex]

https://tenor.com/view/eyebrow-raise-shrek-serious-gif-14262407

[pseudo fable]

You're going to overthink it already which is why I literally gave it to you.

[zealous apex]

stay here and learn about lore or go to work, what to do

[acoustic osprey]

[pseudo fable]

I almost want to pin it for when you do the

https://tenor.com/view/the-wire-shocked-open-mouth-oh-oh-snap-gif-4207696

Because it's not mind-blowing. It's just so simple it's funny.

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[zealous apex]

anyways, im off, ill be back at midnight sadly......

[acoustic osprey]

Ciao Dragon

[strange shell]

My theory is that she's the only one able to throw things because only she has functional human-sized hands without a giant blade in the middle of them

wait

She doesn't have functional hands at all

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

Unless her design has changed

But yeah

I'm gonna try not to overthink

[pseudo fable]

She has yet to meet the final thumbs up.

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[strange shell]

Well I'll be off too, gotta go to work

[acoustic osprey]

No worries, stay well

[acoustic osprey]

(Also because barely anyone checks this channel. Just wait till bigger lore things drop)

[pseudo fable]

I'll miss those days.

[acoustic osprey]

She's either the one throwing or batting (right term?)

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah, was fun.
Great to see everyone going crazy over a few words

But it was nice

[pseudo fable]

No, I mean I'll miss the days of no one checking this, should your claim be true.

[acoustic osprey]

Ah

True.
It being quiet in here is nice.
Juxtaposing for sure. Literally the channel below Isle Discussion but only gets a few messages per day

Compared to the thousands a day ID gets

[pseudo fable]

I occasionally glance here, otherwise I keep to suggestions. Sometimes I rarely let the ID feed roll.

[acoustic osprey]

Understandable

Tons of people asking questions on ID, pretty much chaos almost throughout the whole day

[pseudo fable]

Well, we'll see how my attempts at a full send go.

[acoustic osprey]

Sounds intriguing

[pseudo fable]

My previous message is not* meant to be mysterious. I just hope people like it.

[acoustic osprey]

Oh nice, good luck

and interesting
Hopefully people do like it

[pseudo fable]

Speak for yourself. You're the one always in here. That's the target market.

[acoustic osprey]

[sharp pier]

Hi

[acoustic osprey]

I mean you're not wrong.
Will see if a good influx of people come here

[acoustic osprey]

[sharp pier]

Got lore on ur phone?

[acoustic osprey]

I have a few photos from old streams funny enough

But it's on the doc, last I remember

[sharp pier]

👍

[acoustic osprey]

Although if you want proper lore.
All I can say is become a resident hobo here, like myself, and find out with us along the way

[sharp pier]

Eh, the only lore from games I ended up finding boring is gen zero lore, and destiny lore

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[sharp pier]

Odd since I love gen zero

Although ig my American ass can't handle a games lore only said in Swedish....

[acoustic osprey]

[sharp pier]

Although so uh, what do we do here?

[acoustic osprey]

Well. Just found out Transmissions is now a hit or miss for lore. If I understood correctly (which makes sense, lore from 2018 doesn't always mean it'll still be relevant or accurate)

[sharp pier]

Mmk, well ima go

[acoustic osprey]

No worries. Barely anything I could really detail, as either it'll be theories or unconfirmed content

[placid glacier]

When has ID never not been chaos

[acoustic osprey]

Only when it's proper midnight American time

I've seen it become relatively calm

[outer verge]

Stunning people from a far? Neuro spino supposedly blinds people that get close to it so wouldnt put it past the devs to give the echidna an ability similar to that. Just bit more potant

I doubt it would be throwing anything with those hands

[acoustic osprey]

Able to give temporary paralysis

[outer verge]

Maybe even killing them? No idea how op it's supposed to be

[acoustic osprey]

who knows

[plucky delta]

what if dondi allowed himself to give game lore but only through gifs

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[silver moat]

[zealous apex]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-gif-5292314

[acoustic osprey]

I mean, he has done things similar to that before

[edgy pike]

That PC rex reveal was a gif the first time around wasn't it?

And that thing with the security camera replicator tribal-y thingy

[stone crater]

Echidna's special ability is gonna be playing baseball

playing dead?? ranged attacks??

[stone crater]

my personal favorite was when he hinted at the roadmap through emojis. "CHAIR?????"

[zealous apex]

yes playing dead works in a game where a dryo will attack you anyway

[stone crater]

youre right clearly echidna's power is:

[sleek temple]

@plucky delta bob player

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

[acoustic osprey]

So this is what I'm thinking:

1. Able to throw things (Unlikely, Dondi pretty said doesn't have proper hands)
2. Able to cause temporary paralyse/or an insta-death?
3. Able to play dead

[plucky delta]

die

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah. And you'd probably easily find out that they're not dead by easily going up to it and not getting a prompt

Not like Echidna should really be played that much anyways

That ability is a bit too underpowered for it

[mortal lily]

Whats the lore behind the flying fish?

[edgy pike]

Echidna telekinesis

[gusty thorn]

Ok, I got it. Mad pitching skills

Basically echidna makes money for AE via professional baseball

[sage cedar]

My brain just explodes whenever I go here

[mortal lily]

Do you have a link to where this is explained?

[gusty thorn]

I wonder whatever happened to Alfie after inferno

[stone crater]

in unofficial fanart done by Tap she levitates a Cube

[icy onyx]

🪑

[placid glacier]

scruff the cannibal like an unruly cat

[acoustic osprey]

Eyeless

[zealous apex]

imagine if echidna just stabbed things up to utah size or something and just throws it to do double the weight of the object in damage to what ever it hits, but that sounds hard to implement however

[eager coral]

I am guessing that the cannibals are going to be very easy to kill once you manage to hit them but Echidna will be much more resilient to damage.

[acoustic osprey]

(When you say cannibals, you mean Tribals?)

or The Eyeless?

[zealous apex]

means carno or deino silly

[acoustic osprey]

true

[fallen gust]

pls stap no

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[fallen gust]

i have already ventured down this rabbit hole too far once before dont make me angy and sad again

[acoustic osprey]

Replicator Cube

[fallen gust]

nooooo i dont wanna think about human mutants

my poor dinosaurs pls stap

[acoustic osprey]

(Tribals and Eyeless)

[fallen gust]

nooooooooooooooooooooo

[acoustic osprey]

Colossus, Echidna and Reaper

[fallen gust]

my dinosaurs pls stap

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/business-is-booming-booming-boomin-business-is-booming-meme-meme-templates-gif-24228351

[fallen gust]

dont make me remember

[acoustic osprey]

tell me

[fallen gust]

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

https://tenor.com/view/gmod-ragdoll-video-game-video-game-gif-20573521

[acoustic osprey]

C'mon 🙂

What did you (not) find

[fallen gust]

death and sadness

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[fallen gust]

to my poor dinosaurs

must stay away from this subject

aaaaaaaah

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[fallen gust]

when do u think update 6 will come out

[acoustic osprey]

Wait a minute

when did Olympus Transmitter go down?

[fallen gust]

heh?

[acoustic osprey]

https://twitter.com/AEOlympusTransm/status/1360333750727417856

This Tweet is from an account that no longer exists

[fallen gust]

mhm

so?

[acoustic osprey]

Gone

That's a shame

[fallen gust]

i dont pay attention to lore and stuff

[acoustic osprey]

then why are you in this channel 😠

[fallen gust]

oh

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[fallen gust]

shiza

[acoustic osprey]

That's what I thought

[fallen gust]

i thought i was in normal discussion

[acoustic osprey]

[fallen gust]

screw u and ur mutants bye bye

[acoustic osprey]

Well thank you.
Haven't had a proper talk in ages

[acoustic osprey]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/376049267607076866/969606998633119775/ezgif-4-04488ff962.gif

[fallen gust]

why not

[acoustic osprey]

Because people don't care much about this channel yet

But I have a bet with Dondi now, pretty much

that once he does more proper lore stuff, that this channel will boom more

[fallen gust]

mmmm ok yeah last year i "ruined" the game for myself when i saw mutants and cannibles and faceless bois bc they would most definetly delete the dinosaurs bc i saw the art and stuff for them like faceless catching a carno and killing it big boi killin a rex or hypo rex and the other art and thought it was a horible idea still think it kinda is bc i got this game for dinosaurs not ark but more but thats still a ling time away so for now its fine

i hope

[acoustic osprey]

Well yeah. You're not gonna get these people in soo easily

Tribals and Mercs (Humans) will be easily playable

but Eyeless and the others? Harder to obtain

We don't even know IF Echidna (and others) will be.
Excluding The Eyeless

[fallen gust]

mhm still me no like

echidna?

[acoustic osprey]

However, this has been a thing since launch. Nothing we can do

[fallen gust]

https://tenor.com/view/echidna-beach-cute-animals-gif-13290983

[acoustic osprey]

the thing in the unofficial fan art by Tapwing (above, the one I replied to)

[fallen gust]

so thats what it is

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[fallen gust]

still me no like

[acoustic osprey]

ah yeah

[fallen gust]

and i dont like it bc well there are no good dinosaur games out rn that u play as the dino like u got pth o T and beast of bermuda but i dont like the gameplay compared to the isle and the isle looks so much better

so making dinos pretty much helpless puts me off

i hope they make it so its optional if u have the mutants and stuff at least

[acoustic osprey]

Well, on unofficials. Most likely

[fallen gust]

:T i hope they also do officials one for mutants on and mutants off

lets move to discussion or dms if u still wanna talk about this so we dont get introuble

[fallen gust]

oke?

[eager coral]

The eyeless

[acoustic osprey]

cool

[zealous apex]

but but but

[edgy pike]

with transmitter gone is that de-canonizing the stuff that was on there so far?

[eager marsh]

damn they removed the twitter account for the transmitter?

[fleet pumice]

Where do I report cheaters?

Wrong channel

[acoustic osprey]

Looks like it

[acoustic osprey]

Besides with dondi and you

Before then
Really just small spurts

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/view/im-sorry-little-one-im-sorry-sorry-thanos-gif-22851713

[oblique surge]

Oh

@acoustic osprey come oh at this

[eager marsh]

lore

[humble crane]

oh

also how dare you #phase-two-archive

DONDI.

[wraith adder]

[acoustic osprey]

Oh well, I wait for something else then

Guess I'll have to analyse the barrels on Spiro then

[uneven pewter]

whaaaaaaaat

[acoustic osprey]

Yep

Sad times
Dondi saw that we were still talking about it 4 years after

[oblique surge]

Just watch he’ll make a new account (copium)

[midnight igloo]

Damn really

Goodbye old friend

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

@calm vale please wake up

[hexed flax]

It has a new profile picture

[acoustic osprey]

And will probably never be used again

Well, that pfp has been like that for some time though

[rustic nexus]

Oh well

Now i have nothing to ramble on about on already shaky theories

[acoustic osprey]

Guess I'll have to.
Guess we'll have to

[rustic nexus]

Hypos don’t exist and are merely a psychological test

[acoustic osprey]

Hypers*

[rustic nexus]

Oh

[acoustic osprey]

[rustic nexus]

Right

Its a bit of muscle memory that i type hypo

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

Sadly the nickname has stuck around for too long

It Hypers were Hypos
Then they'd be the exact opposite

[rustic nexus]

If they were hypos

I wonder if they would still be hyper aggressive or more calmed cause they don’t have to eat as much

[acoustic osprey]

A lot less aggressive

Hypo meaning under, under, beneath or low
Hyper more at over, over

Funny enough
These terms are Greek. Which matches with a lot of Isle's Greek Mythology connections

[rustic nexus]

I was wondering

Since it does have a lot of greek connections if there is some type of connection between tribals and the replicator similar to the greeks

iirc the greeks used to sacrifice to get answers/favor from the gods they worshiped

[acoustic osprey]

I don't think there has been much for Tribals yet

[acoustic osprey]

Actually.
Dondi going on about this

It'd be interesting how "The Fence" could ever be implemented again

Like. There have been many people within the community who have given their own input and suggestions.
Obviously, it'd all have to work mechanically first before anything

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/992355187849179146/996195195873923162/unknown4.png
I had an idea (image by Dasharkmasta)
I was thinking of it and looking at this map about a month ago.

Both mechanically (Especially balance-wise) would be very enticing and quite interesting to see if this was ever a thing

For level design?
I'd presume almost ALL diet plants in the fenced off large enclosure.
With a few diet plants growing JUST OUT of it.
I presume "THE FENCE" would be broken. As we've seen, from Visual, him simulating broken fences + walls before.
Leaving to then almost all old AE human facilities being spread around and outside the fence (as shown). However, with one or two ranger posts IN the fenced area

Obviously, that'd all depend on how AE distributes their facilities across Isla Spiro.
Alongside if Dondi has ever reconsidered bringing "The FENCE" back for a proper implementation especially through lore.

For me, this would be interesting.
I've already spread this idea to small groups of people.
But especially just remembering this quote from Dondi got me thinking again

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/855527844670865438/1001079138607714314/giphy_9.gif

(Gif about simulated destruction)
Doesn't mean we'd get destructible fences or walls.

which were semi simulated so we can get an extent on how it is broken, to be as real as it can

• From Devblog #11 (Visual)

And in Devblog #10

broken fence wires.
Broken wall cement.

Very interesting stuff.
Which could allude to a large opening of AE's enclosures within in Spiro which might've led to why they've abandoned Spiro actively (or anything along that line, it seems like this is the most probably correct or along the same line. Otherwise, why would the facilities across Spiro be abandoned?)

Obviously, if we go to the present, AE seems to want to come back to Spiro

for whatever reason.
Maybe they never left? (More so, leaving active cameras there etc)

Currently, I don't believe we know

This excludes anything from Legacy.
Take anything that's not in Evrima with a grain of salt, I guess. Till confirmed

but yeah.
I know this is pretty pointless

[zealous apex]

Damn bro should I read all that

[acoustic osprey]

yes

It's another of my theories

Which I feel like as if Dondi will say.

"Good job. But no"

[zealous apex]

Haha, if I do it does it mean the same thing?

[acoustic osprey]

Yes and no

It'd hurt.
But from the man who literally orchestrates lore

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-and-the-holy-grail-just-a-flesh-wound-kicked-flesh-wound-wound-gif-12275696

[zealous apex]

Lmao

[acoustic osprey]

Either way

I'll still be here trying not to cry whilst making new theories

[zealous apex]

I read it

[icy onyx]

time to read

[acoustic osprey]

yay

[icy onyx]

I mean idk how exactly they will implement said wall or if they would use an entirely different looking wall, but I kinda thought it was the understanding that The Island was either abandoned or falling apart + Given its a place they experiment on creatures there has to be cages and walls even if its on an island it would be too risky to allow things to simply walk around outside of an enclosed space with no visual monitoring. Its why they have the trail cams all over the place, which I would assume those cams are inside enclosures.

And as for AE coming back well I assume from my little knowledge of lore the mercs/gen 2 humans are being created to get things back in order in some form maybe

[acoustic osprey]

Said Fence would've been made by AE long before they "Abandoned Spiro"

And said Fence would've likely been smashed/broken (hence why we've seen multiple versions of things literally being broken)

[icy onyx]

I don't disagree with that at all

I just am sorta trying to figure out what your point is

Is it just that walls are coming back?

[acoustic osprey]

oh? 🤨

[icy onyx]

I would expect walls to come back, I mean how else would you make the enclosures

[acoustic osprey]

No no.
My theory and thinking point is wondering how AE placed enclosures in Spiro.

Especially fences around Spiro

Was it one whole section on Spiro?
Did they have multiple enclosures? (Atriums)
Will this "Said Fence" be severely broken?

Because the only fences we've seen are the fences around actual buildings

Funny enough.
Legacy referred to Atriums multiple times

No. Wait. Was gonna say more

But however, that's a different culture

because.
We haven't heard of fences properly in a while

[icy onyx]

I mean I guess its possible for the entire island to just have some big chonking wall around it, but money wise that doesn't make too much sense. Plus its a danger to anyone working there because they would need to be inside an enclosure just to travel from place to place.

Imo it would make more sense for there to be enclosures spread around the map for different purposes just like how the aviary is its own thing

[acoustic osprey]

As much as we could say "Oh yeah, it'd be cool to have fences back"

Fences are only in the skin island

[zealous apex]

“Feel this moment” by pit bull, haven’t heard it before

[acoustic osprey]

Which... We don't even know if that's Spiro (in the future) or another island

[acoustic osprey]

2010 stuff, pretty much.
Listening to my ladies' playlist because I have to

[acoustic osprey]

No. Not around the entire island.
But "The Fence" around the actual enclosure aspect

(Pretty much the map I sent)

And don't forget

[icy onyx]

Well thats what I was just saying, the walls would be around the enclosures and there would be multiple across the map for different reasons

[acoustic osprey]

However, with one or two ranger posts IN the fenced area

Those ranger posts, although I'd hate to say it. Could be connected to something like in JWD

Because we know "The GUTS" might just include Visual's monorail system

[acoustic osprey]

Well yes.
That'd be THE Fence

But we don't know if there will be multiple or just one enclosure

Excluding any atriums

[icy onyx]

The posts inside the enclosures could also not have doors up top and instead they lead to caves underground, ofc these posts could be damaged with holes in them by now allowing people to enter

[acoustic osprey]

Besides.
One enclosure would also make sense

If AE is testing the man-made environment of AE with their Dinosaurs and Modern Animals.
Then I'd just put them all together

EXCLUDING the atriums or anything related to much larger projects

Like Strains

However, that all balances on the original reason for whatever AE is doing on Spiro back in the 90s

[icy onyx]

I don't think putting stuff together would make sense, ideally you would want some place for your experiments to live when you're not actively testing them and then when you are you would move them to the testing area

[acoustic osprey]

if you're making a properly balanced (mostly balanced) ecosystem, then why not?

hence why you'd have Atriums as well

[icy onyx]

Yeah but strains were for wars I thought, why would they care about that for those

[acoustic osprey]

Just to test those experiments

[acoustic osprey]

No?

[icy onyx]

[acoustic osprey]

We barely have any idea on what Strains are for

[icy onyx]

Idk personally one big enclosure doesn't sound as fun as multiple

[acoustic osprey]

How so?

[icy onyx]

Just from a gameplay standpoint

[acoustic osprey]

It's not supposed to be fun

Because that enclosure would still be broken.
We're not playing in the 90s

But playing many years after

[icy onyx]

Because I would wanna explore more things, plus realistically I think it makes more sense

[acoustic osprey]

You would still

If what Visual has shown us means anything

it means that the enclosure really aren't "enclosed" anymore

[icy onyx]

I wouldn't expect to find anything in this game intact tbh

[acoustic osprey]

Well yeah

[icy onyx]

Unless humans repair it in game

[acoustic osprey]

Pretty much every concept art showing human things show broken down equipment/facilities

So you, as a dinosaur, wouldn't be trapped in that one enclosure

[icy onyx]

Idk if it would work better as a mod but I still would like to see humans have the task of repairing everything on the island then putting dinosaurs back into the enclosure/s

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/664914260648001555/817576526279082004/2021_Env_Concept_Building_Overgrowth_3.png
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/664914260648001555/817576507932278784/2021_Env_Concept_Building_Overgrowth_2.png

[acoustic osprey]

Latter? Maybe, maybe not.
But yes, for the most part.

At least. Promote less Dino vs Merc combat

[icy onyx]

Like I kinda liked the idea of mercs having to knock out the dinosaurs then use a big truck or helicopter to carry the dinosaur back to the enclosure for a reward

[acoustic osprey]

Although I'd love the idea of some promotion of Merc vs Merc combat.
Especially in the future (even as a Limited Time Event)

Where some Mercs would, just like Gen 1, defect.

Pretty much just PI vs AE.
Even though PI is pretty much dead

[acoustic osprey]

From a gameplay stand point.
It sounds bad

[icy onyx]

But who knows

[acoustic osprey]

Even with Tribals

Knocking out a Dinosaur.
Then trapping it in a cage.

Would be fun for a Singleplayer.

But a multiplayer?
Yeah it'd be cool for a short while

But what if you're the dinosaur

[icy onyx]

Idk, I don't want it to be the main focus of the game. I just wanted it to be a thing you could do if you wanted

Because idk but feels like when humans don't have lots to choose from in game they get old fast

[acoustic osprey]

It'd be something, like people wanting to actively kill other Dinosaurs, that'll definitely occur a lot

Especially since that'd be more of a given option that you could definitely do because you're helping AE

[icy onyx]

Idk what Dondi or whoevers idea for human gameplay is but I really hope they create like a tree worth of things to do. Like if you wanna do x thats cool but if you don't wanna do that you can go do y and z and still get loads of enjoyment out of the game.

Ik I always refer to scum and I'm going to again, for example if I wanted I could just pvp all the time and kill people and take their stuff. Or I could just start from scratch out in the woods, build a cabin and a whole camp with work benches and storages, etc. Hunting for my food instead of looking through abandoned places. They even have fishing in game where you can pick all sorts of baits and stuff. Also soon they wanna add in depth farming and you can grow loads of different things.

I'm not saying add those things to The isle, I'm just saying that I would like to see multiple "branches" of things to do where you can get the full enjoyment out of the game without having to do something you might not care for as much.

[acoustic osprey]

Hopefully it's good.

However, that'll come down to how lore is done.
And how the devs want Mercs to work- for them to be fun, enjoyable and replayable

[icy onyx]

🙏

[outer verge]

Cool story bruv

[loud gate]

@acoustic osprey whats gen 1 and whats gen 2?

[sharp knoll]

Gen 1 - Mutated/Failed Human (Tribals/Cannibals/Georgian)

Gen 2 - Perfect Human (Mercs/Neo Georgian)

[loud gate]

Thank you

[sharp knoll]

yw

[acoustic osprey]

With Neo Georgian
Basically Tribals are Georgian

But that doesn't matter much

and, don't mistake the Tribals with the "Old Cannibals"
Which are The Eyeless (No Official Name)

[eager coral]

Definitely agree with that. I do believe that they will allow humans to do a variety of different things, but what I am most curious about is what the "main" goal for humans will be.

I mean, they aren't just thrown in there to survive, right? They will probably have a mission to accomplish.

Either way, I doubt they'll be locked into one area of the game. It won't be just hunting dinosaurs or just buildings things.

[icy onyx]

We can only hope

[acoustic osprey]

I mean, they aren't just thrown in there to survive, right

Maybe they are

who knows.
Mercs aren't just simple "Mercenaries"

These are definite genetic tests

[icy onyx]

Even if they are, actually if they are, then it leaves more doors open for different kinds of gameplay

Because if they're just thrown in to survive then they could choose to do whatever they wanted really

[acoustic osprey]

Well, them being genetically made/modified is definitely what we're seeing with Mercs

Just whatever AE wants with that hasn't been told yet

Test the capability of Gen 2 on Spiro?
Who knows

[acoustic osprey]

https://cdn.cloudflare.steamstatic.com/steamcommunity/public/images/clans//10915315/e67e7c11a8f811826db6332fd8cf5acea2410f63.png
Let's see if this means anything related to lore soon 🙂

[nocturne cosmos]

increase exposure

[acoustic osprey]

true

<@&933486433342222376>

Not in my county

[mint vault]

lol

ty

[acoustic osprey]

👌

[nocturne cosmos]

this is lightclaw domain

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/gumby-flexible-cowboy-hat-six-gif-12882205

wrong channel Darryl?

[glad anvil]

oops

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[glad anvil]

yes

[maiden shuttle]

I just don't see how Humans & Dinos could exist together? I mean, if it comes to a fight, lets face it, the humans are going to win? The Humans have firearms. I guess if the humans are there to study them it would be different? I guess I'm just confused with the purpose of the humans on the island(s) at all?

[ebon linden]

jurassic world

[maiden shuttle]

If they have firearms, I suppose.

[acoustic osprey]

It's a Sci-fi game

With bio-genetically made dinosaurs

It's not a hunting game

like TheHunter Primal

[maiden shuttle]

Fair. But In a lore sense, I'm just intrigued into the purpose of the humans on the island. I'm new to the whole lore concept of The Isle, only getting into it now that humans have been confirmed, along with Gen 1.

[acoustic osprey]

and for all we know, Gen 2 (Humans) are here to study/research/help see how these genetically made Dinosaurs work in Spiro

[maiden shuttle]

I see...

[acoustic osprey]

Gen 1 + 2
Both humans

Gen 1, however, were genetical failures = They are The Tribals

Gen 2, if like Tribals, are also genetically done.
However seem to be A LOT more successful

[maiden shuttle]

So, in a specimen sense, there no different than the dinosaurs? (Besides, you know, them being 'Humans')

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

These are just genetically made/modified Humans for all we know

[acoustic osprey]

Upon asking about Colossus @gentle vessel

Hope you're happy

I used my only Get out of Jail free card

(Also a good movie)

[icy onyx]

I want humans to have as realistic guns as possible, but people also need to understand that that doesn't mean anything vs some of the larger dinosaurs. Like I said the other day take the elephant gun for example (ammo in the picture below), if you actually look at the ammo used in those there is a massive difference between that and the tiny 5.56 rounds used in the M4 variants or 7.62x39, etc.

I don't see most guns having a huge effect on the larger dinosaurs, instead guns being mostly deadly to small and mid sized dinosaurs that way humans can defend themselves. Also depends on what they plan on adding to the game, since if we get anywhere near .338 Lapua magnum or 50BMG then those would be able to hurt bigger dinosaurs a lot. I don't think we will get stuff that big but who knows.

[icy onyx]

Guns don't = hunting btw, nobody wants The Hunter Primal, people want to know what humans will be able to defend themselves from. Which is dependent on the kinda guns they have.

[gentle vessel]

YAY

[icy onyx]

Lightclaw poofed

maybe they're just busy

[strange shell]

Dondi smited him
He knows too much

[icy onyx]

[acoustic osprey]

No.
But when most people see guns (especially if they're Dinosaur-game fans) they automatically think Primal Carnage and hunting Dinosaurs

and sorry, I got some sleep.

[acoustic osprey]

Multiple ways you can look at it

[gentle vessel]

I’m just glad he is staying at all

[acoustic osprey]

Either, that's a reference to something it does in lore.
Dondi doesn't want the Colossus design to change.
Dondi doesn't want Colossus gone/changing characters

[gentle vessel]

I’m fine with all 3

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[gentle vessel]

I’m happy reptile gorilla stays

[acoustic osprey]

same

[gentle vessel]

I just hope it does more for lore than “he is locked up”

[acoustic osprey]

yeah, hopefully

[acoustic osprey]

I was actually really lucky with Dondi last night.
I don't ask questions but he gave me a free "pick a card, any card question"

[icy onyx]

Its fine lol and yeah I get it

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/punisher-gif-18538704

[icy onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/dies-cat-dead-died-gif-13827091

[acoustic osprey]

yes

Although, it's usually one way of seeing "Humans" in The Isle as hunters

because they're always commonly referred to as "Mercenaries" by the community

However, almost never by the devs.
Which leads me to wonder what they are. Wish we could know

Wish we could know if these are true Mercenaries. Or, realistically, just people made in a lab

[icy onyx]

I mean I personally think that the island is just a big testing ground now that its collapsed. So maybe these new humans are being sent in with the bare minimum to see if they have been give the ability to survive in such an awful situation. Which at some point if they prove themselves they might get contacted by AE or whoever is running the whole show in regards to them, then they might be ordered to fix everything and get it back under control. Or maybe to stop this replicator thing

[acoustic osprey]

Who knows.
If they're out to stop The Replicator, they'd definitely be better equipped with proper gear.
I don't it'd be "to get contacted (contracted?) by AE" but moreso AE testing Gen 2 and how viable they'd be to survive

[icy onyx]

Well no I meant contacted, assuming humans wouldn't start with radios how would they have communication with AE if they were tasked with something? I just think they're put on the island to survive and see if they're good enough to do what AE wants them to do, then whenever they repair the radio tower they could then get communication back with AE.

[acoustic osprey]

They probably don't even know

like the dinosaurs on Spiro.
There to survive.

But so so

Maybe they know they're going in with nothing.
Who knows.

Have to mean reason. I don't know how.

[icy onyx]

Not really any way to tell if the humans are created as adults or they grow up as children, if they don't grow up though you could say they're just dumped on the island with just the basics with no idea of anything going on. But maybe thats not it either since I would assume it would be borderline impossible for someone to survive in that kinda world without knowing anything.

Buuut then again cave men did it, so idk

[icy onyx]

@acoustic osprey The wild Dondi hasn't appeared yet

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/thor-thor-love-and-thunder-thor-odinson-notice-me-hello-gif-25426276

don't think he's too up for Gen 2 talk 🙂

Honestly, it's a scary topic because spoilers

[icy onyx]

fair

I mean the main things I like talking about is humans, strains and elders. Since for me those are the coolest things in the game aside from just adult apexes, also the whole tunnels thing is cool but I know so little that its not really a thing I talk about much + I would only have lots of fun exploring those with a human or dino I liked

[icy onyx]

So idk, I don't mind talking about whatever

[rustic nexus]

Wait did we get the lore stuff yet

[sleek temple]

im curious of the guns we are going to get will be up to standard to modern era, or will we get guns similar to how far cry 2 and 3 did where old cold war weapons were used because they were cheap to buy

[icy onyx]

No

[icy onyx]

I mean I would expect 1980s-now weapons

[rustic nexus]

Hopefully there are some modern, but majority old models

[icy onyx]

Could also see older weapons if the island has WWII history

[sleek temple]

it depends if AE develops guns or they buy them from somewhere

[icy onyx]

I fail to see what you're trying to say

[sleek temple]

basically, if they develop weapons, they would have to be modern, but if they buy them, they could be older models

[acoustic osprey]

think around 90s and below

[icy onyx]

I mean they can be modern if they buy them from someone else also

[acoustic osprey]

AE abandoned Spiro during around the 90s.
Best to presume we'll be getting guns from the 70s-90s

[acoustic osprey]

Not till 5.5, hopefully

[sleek temple]

its more that there is a possibility when u choose that route that u get older weapons

cuz if they develop the weapons themselves then they would prob be state of the arc

[icy onyx]

Where did you get eta? I have been hoping for lore any day now

[acoustic osprey]

Don't forget, you're spawning with nothing. So you're not bringing "present weapons" in as a Merc

[acoustic osprey]

Dondi a few days back, it's my job to know about these things

[icy onyx]

noice

[sleek temple]

but lightclaw u spawn with a flashlight 🥺

[icy onyx]

Airdrops?

[acoustic osprey]

Yes, so unless you can call in with a supply drop.
Presume that the weapons you get are old

[rustic nexus]

Oh i thought 5.5 came out already

[acoustic osprey]

not yet

[rustic nexus]

Sad

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[sleek temple]

i genuinely hope the weapons we get can jam n stuff, farcry 2 did that amazingly, where the weapons would have lots of issues

[rustic nexus]

I read this completely differently

[icy onyx]

I really hope they stick with realistic existing guns, regardless of the date. Because I would probably throw up in my mouth a little if we started seeing halo type weapons

[sleek temple]

ark tek rifle L

[acoustic osprey]

We're not going to go totally sci-fi. Excluding mods
We already have the SPAS-12

[icy onyx]

Hoping its not even partially lol

[rustic nexus]

Correct me if im wrong but isn’t the isle based on the 1980s-2020s

[acoustic osprey]

we're playing in current times.
But Spiro was abandoned in around the 90s

[icy onyx]

I hope they jam as well, in scum if you don't clean/repair your guns they can jam mid fight and then you have to look at your gun, select the correct jam out of 1-4 keys and if you pick the wrong one it stays jammed

So you need to be on top of your stuff

It has animations for the whole thing too

[acoustic osprey]

not just RDR2.
But a lot more. Looking after your weapons sounds nice

Something like Kingdom Come 🙂

Actually no

No, should the actual weapon have "durability"

[sleek temple]

ark did the durability thing

[icy onyx]

I hope we get this in The isle https://youtu.be/2tV08qXqkUc?t=6

Its super cool tbh

[icy onyx]

I think that would be good yes, like in the video

[icy onyx]

I scared everyone off it seems

[acoustic osprey]

yes

[silent raptor]

Has there been much discussion in here about how there's 2 pretty noticeable styles to the creatures? I know part of that is some are Jurassic Park inspired and they don't all have the same concept artist, but lore-wise. Like is it 2 different scientists, 2 different companies, some are 'pure' while others are to test mutations? It's almost as if some dinosaurs have lizard/croc DNA and others have bird DNA. The difference between the Utahraptor and Hypsilophodon being a prime example. The Utahraptor is naked, no feathers, very lizardlike. The Hypsilophodon has modern bird feathers when it ought not.

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

there were two companies.

AE and PI
(Apollo Engineering + Phoenix International)

Utah will also be renamed and a real utah will be implemented as well

[silent raptor]

Is there confirmation that that explains the differences between creatures, and not like them stealing strains or something.

[acoustic osprey]

probably something along the line of Apolloraptor

[silent raptor]

I suggested the name Apolloraptor a couple years ago lol

[acoustic osprey]

No.
But we do know that the Magna Rex was from PI

[silent raptor]

That's what I was remembering with them stealing things then. There's a divide between a lot of base dinosaur stylization still. Hope there is a lore reason and not just the inspiration varying.

[acoustic osprey]

We can presume that the differences in dinosaurs was mostly so those dinosaurs could fit their niche in their ecosystem more.

But that's mostly up for debate

[silent raptor]

That's how I see the ones that are heavily stylizing away from what they'd look like 'in reality.' Makes me wonder why some are fairly normal, like Stegosaurus.

[acoustic osprey]

that all really depends on this and other things that we don't really know yet

[silent raptor]

I guess I'm just hungry for the other things lol

[acoustic osprey]

You are? We all are now

I've been too much of an old hagged troll here, in my bridge

[silent raptor]

I've been off in headcanonland satisfied enough in my ignorance. Until today.

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[acoustic osprey]

Waiting for Phase Three though.
I presume it has no significance to the original phases, to what I distantly remember, with Thronebreaker, Alphonse etc etc

But it might, I do wonder though

[slender nacelle]

can stego alt atk

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/friends-joey-tribbiani-matt-le-blanc-happy-to-sad-becoming-sad-gif-16026281

[acoustic osprey]

wrong channel

[slender nacelle]

oh shit

[acoustic osprey]

Unless you want to talk about lore

[slender nacelle]

that is not my special interest ill leave u to it

[acoustic osprey]

Alright, I'll wait for someone else then to come.
Ciao and stay well👋

[errant trout]

do we know of any particular differences between the two?

or what their relationship is

[strange shell]

What are the lore implications of stego tail-jabbing instead of swinging ?

[acoustic osprey]

Well, Apollo Engineering is the supposed creator of Isla Spiro. It's quite apparent from the multiple non-dinosaur assets placed along the map.
Phoenix International is Primal Carnage's team.

We can believe that, during Operation Inferno, were destroyed.
But that's old lore and now counts as speculation.
Magna Rex being PC's Rex model

[acoustic osprey]

Seeing as all of Spiro's "Dinosaurs" are more so just genetically cooked up creatures.
However Stego was built and designed was probably along the line of however AE saw them fit in a particular niche

[errant trout]

huh, maybe I'm really slow, I never knew that PC and TI had connected lore

[acoustic osprey]

oh yeah, at least Legacy was

well

No, some form of PC's "Phoenix International" is in Evrima

[errant trout]

hmm, so do we not really have any lore for evrima yet?

[acoustic osprey]

barely compared to Legacy

[errant trout]

I see, and that's why you're excited for Dondi's lore update in 5.5

[acoustic osprey]

I'd say watch some of Meaty Lock's videos if you want some sort of small and old understanding of Legacy lore

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-holy-grail-horse-gif-3448553

[errant trout]

based

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[errant trout]

oh yeah, are generation 2 humans the mercs? and gen 1 is tribals?

or is that different from the generations

[acoustic osprey]

Yes

Gen 2 = The normal looking Humans (Aka Mercs)

Gen 1 = Tribals (Humanoid monsters. Aka Cannibals)

[errant trout]

oh jeez

[acoustic osprey]

yeah

[errant trout]

I thought tribals were just like, primitive normal humans

[acoustic osprey]

they're like big ugly avatars

[errant trout]

so like, orcs

that's wild

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[errant trout]

wait so why are they referred to as gen 1 and gen 2?

[acoustic osprey]

Generation 1 are referred to as that due to being the first

I presume you can guess why Gen 2 are called Gen 2

Generation One, however, seem to be more so AE's "Trying too hard, so therefore they got monsters"

Whereas, Generation Two is a lot more perfect and stable

and obedient to AE

[errant trout]

hmm, bad question, more what I was getting at is the implication of a second generation is that it comes from the first, but that seems incorrect if mercs are normal humans while tribals are like genetic monstrosities

[acoustic osprey]

Ah yeah.
From what I've read and from what I have presumed.

Gen 1 = Took place many years ago (Around the 90s)
AE must've thought something on the line of "Let's make a powerful human by making them big and literally powerful"

Then the Tribals went mad and chaotic. Started praising The Replicator (AI thing like GLaDOS)

Gen 2 = Probably done around current times
Is AE's second attempt at making a more perfect/or whatever they want human

if that makes sense?

[errant trout]

absolutely makes sense

okay, interesting

I was also under the impression that the "mercs" were just normal people hired to deal with stuff, not also genetically altered

I suppose that makes the mercenary label a bit inaccurate then? since they're not really participating for profit or as hired thugs, but it makes sense as name to distinguish them from tribals

[acoustic osprey]

yeah, I try to avoid the term Mercs

They're more of a "Community Name"

like how the faceless tribals are called "The Eyeless"

[acoustic osprey]

but they could've been hired to be genetically modified?

It realistically comes down to "HOW" Gen 2 were made

[errant trout]

ahhhhh, that's a very good point

[acoustic osprey]

yeah

[errant trout]

very interesting

[acoustic osprey]

it definitely is

and is a big "hm" section

[errant trout]

so what exactly is the purpose of these generations? like what were they designed to do exactly, just live in the same environment as dinosaurs and see what happens? or to try and get them to take control of the island from dinosaurs?

[acoustic osprey]

We... have no clue

Make the perfect human?

Test every ecosystem Spiro makes?

Who knows

It'd be something I WOULD LOVE to know from Dondi.

[errant trout]

yeah that would be super big info

[acoustic osprey]

definitely

[errant trout]

well, that's my lore interest itch scratched

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/you-make-me-sad-monty-python-bothered-let-down-gif-4898301

Very good.

Any other questions I'll feel free to probably give you an answer which is likely wrong

[errant trout]

oh wait sike one more

[acoustic osprey]

good

[errant trout]

I heard that the dinosaurs are like

they have human brains?

[acoustic osprey]

Old theory

[errant trout]

gotcha

[acoustic osprey]

Yeah, old.
I prefer if it didn't exist

But that's my opinion

[errant trout]

yeah, fair enough

alright, you may be sad now

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-green-goblin-attaboy-that-a-boy-willem-dafoe-gif-25401526

[icy onyx]

The magna Rex is secretly a hypo Alberto

[acoustic osprey]

❌

[severe raft]

Sarcasm + ratio + too heavily built + not slender enough

[acoustic osprey]

yes

Alright, here I go.

The Isle Humans are misunderstood and misinterpreted piece of lore.
Before transmissions became gone and the actual twitter account was deleted, this was the general understanding of Generation Two was quite simple:

There were two "Generations", which were human based. They will also be playable in the future for The Isle
Gen 1 = Tribals (Aka Cannibals) - Not to be mistaken as The Eyeless which is yet to be named
Gen 2 = Humans (Aka Mercs)

Generation One seemed to have gone crazy and more "chaotic" after multiple iterations.
They were also mad ugly, large and monstrous in size
Started to praise The Replicator (Long story short, >scary AI)
Adopted by "Neurotenic Mastermind"- Which is a Type-N Human. Also known as Echidna

We don't know much more about Tribals.
But, we can presume "THEY" were done multiple years before Spiro was abandoned

• We can presume Spiro was abandoned due to mild weathering upon AE's buildings.

Generation Two?
Generation Two seem to be AE's "Contemporary" iteration of Generation One.
They don't seem to actually be "TRUE" Mercs- Although, we don't know how Gen2 was made. Were they genetically made? Modified from a body? Were "Mercenaries" contracted to get test on (However, more akin to Astronauts?)

Look. I don't know. Why? Because transmissions is dead and this is all now speculative until proven.
Although Gen 2 = Humans and Gen 1 = Tribals still are.
Who knows Mercs might not be even be Genetically done for all we know. They could literally be actual Mercenaries who just had a bad die and woke up with "no weapons"/nothing

So yeah.
This is what I know and now what I believe both Gen 2 and 1 to be
I don't believe Gen 2 are true Mercenaries. However, could've still been contracted.

Hope you're happy.
I'm literally in the middle of finishing a long movie script that I'm currently ordering the equipment for 👍

Why is this here and just not in lore.

Sorry Dondi 🙂

[hoary junco]

yes

[acoustic osprey]

no need to thank me

[hoary junco]

I won’t

[acoustic osprey]

oh

[hoary junco]

‘they were mad ugly’ don’t do my homies like that

[acoustic osprey]

I'm sorry but they are. Or at least were

[fringe marsh]

I think the tribals will be very fun to play.

[acoustic osprey]

Shame I have to speak in past tense for most of Evrima's lore now

It's not even Evrima's lore now

https://tenor.com/view/kneel-down-wilder-woods-bear-rinehart-light-shine-in-on-his-knees-gif-17256761

It's just *dubious pieces of information *

[strange shell]

The real lore was the friends we made along the way

[acoustic osprey]

Pretty much

[gentle vessel]

So “mercs” could be like people from ark

They die, wake up in a cloned body, no idea what the fuck is going on

[acoustic osprey]

Maybe

There are definitely multiple ways you could look at how Mercs were made

[strange shell]

Consciousness transferring between humans and dinos

[loud gate]

Can you tell us more about Replicatior?

And is Gen 1 as intelligent as normal humans?

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/yj2b.gif

[nocturne cosmos]

Dondi just torments poor lightclaw with his cryptic words/gifs

[icy onyx]

Poor lightclaw lol

[sonic rampart]

For a long time I assumed regular humans were Gen 1 until we got the beta

So a "search for perfection" sounds pretty plausible

[icy onyx]

Also with tribals seeming to be failed experiments it seems that would be the case, just wondering why and what for.

Unless I'm getting names confused again and gen 1 is tribals

[sharp knoll]

Cannibals

[icy onyx]

tribals are the cannibals yes?

[sharp knoll]

Tribals are Cannibals and Cannibals are Eyeless

Ik is confusing

[silent raptor]

So I was thinking about how some theropods (rex, cerato, carno, etc) have exposed teeth and others are fully lipped (raptors, bary, herrera, etc) and is it really as simple as gaps in DNA being filled with crocs in the exposed teeth dinosaurs versus lizards in the lipped ones? Is it that simple?

[old stone]

Tribals are cannibals. The eyeless do not have an official name and are not referred to as cannibals anymore

[acoustic osprey]

Well, Cannibals were Eyeless

We'll find out the connection with The Eyeless and Tribals soon. I guess

[acoustic osprey]

Sweet.
Tick that off the list

[acoustic osprey]

Lol

Realistically I can't
Just an AI, a bit similar to GLaDOS

[sharp knoll]

Ik Im saying the old name of eyeless

[icy onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/donald-trump-wrong-gif-9806204

[sharp knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-the-boys-billy-butcher-a-train-sad-gif-26077834

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/homelander-salute-gif-22022542

Definately

[sharp knoll]

https://tenor.com/view/now-youre-just-being-cruel-billy-butcher-karl-urban-the-boys-now-thats-just-rude-gif-25853212

[acoustic osprey]

Gone

<@&933486433342222376>

https://tenor.com/view/book-of-boba-fett-boba-fett-the-book-of-boba-fett-leader-leadership-gif-24825644

[icy onyx]

https://tenor.com/view/darth-vader-drunk-beer-drunk-vader-gif-14241507

[icy onyx]

I Wondor if some poor soilder saw a baby troodon went to pet it and got jumped by the mafia

[wraith adder]

again <@&933486433342222376>

[sand seal]

...but why.

[wraith adder]

😭

[icy onyx]

It is kinda lore

Could find a skeleton with teeth marks you don’t know

[acoustic osprey]

Hm

[icy onyx]

Ok the best lore devs made

Port

No aviary

There ain’t no flyers (exluding the op named quetz)

Why do they need an aviary

Maybe flyers did actually exist and the cannibals ate them?

Also the ram in spiro

Dam*

Only reason they would do it is to clear space to build?

What will they be building

Since it’s a large open plain

They would be building something big

Maybe a factory to make weapons or some machine to genetically modify dinosaurs to be used in wars

[acoustic osprey]

We have an Evrima Aviary model

And we have pteradon

[acoustic osprey]

I don't think it's for wars

Looking at the name of the company
Apollo Engineering

It might have reference to health, healing and/or bio-genetically improving people

Medicine

[icy onyx]

I don't really agree with this given Lockheed Martin, Boeing, Raytheon, General Dynamics, BAE Systems and a load of others are Arms Manufacturers irl and none of those names really scream "We make tanks, missiles, bombs and guns here" lol

We will just have to wait and see when Dondi drops some lore imo

[acoustic osprey]

I'm just going off that it's both cliche and isle has been very connected with Greek Mythology

[acoustic osprey]

Can't wait to find out what Utah's new name will be

Apolloraptor

[silent raptor]

I of course favor Apolloraptor, but I could see Neoraptor. Part of me wants to think that since Magnaraptor's design (or is it the entire animal) is scrapped that could be its name, but it doesn't really feel equivalent to the Magnatyrannus.

[hexed flax]

Novaraptor 😂

[acoustic osprey]

Novaraptor 👎

[pseudo fable]

https://tenor.com/view/no-let-me-think-nope-no-way-hmm-no-gif-22904160

[rose sparrow]

good

[acoustic osprey]

Nova gone 🙏

[last hazel]

Magnaraptor ?

[acoustic osprey]

B-442/3

[strange shell]

There should be a poll for renaming utahraptor
My vote would go to Goblinraptor

[sturdy trout]

[last hazel]

Atrociraptor

[acoustic osprey]

same

[sturdy trout]

I do like apolloraptor as a potential name a lot.

[acoustic osprey]

I am honestly not a fan of "Neoraptor"
As much as it makes sense

[strange shell]

Or apollovenator ?

[sturdy trout]

[acoustic osprey]

Apollovenator or raptor, either one

[acoustic osprey]

However, it doesn't?

[sturdy trout]

apollo hunter or apollo thief

[strange shell]

I'd suggest dondiraptor but this joke has been overused

[acoustic osprey]

It wouldn't be "Neo" if it's made during the same time other dinosaurs are made

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/spider-man-green-goblin-attaboy-that-a-boy-willem-dafoe-gif-25401526

[sturdy trout]

[strange shell]

Yeah every dino in the isle is kind of a neosaur

[acoustic osprey]

Pretty much

It seems like Nova is a no go.

[strange shell]

They should all be renamed to neo-something
Neosaurus rex
Neoceratops
Neoceratops (but smaller cuz it's based on dibble)
Neospinus
Neonotosaurus
Neocrocanthosaurus

[acoustic osprey]

Unless this ( #isle-lore-theories message ) meant

"Novaraptor 👎"

"No, it wont not be Nova?"

Although, he could just be agreeing with it

[strange shell]

Dondi being cryptic as always

[acoustic osprey]

If anything.
The magna "strains" are proper Neo-dinosaurs

Still unsure if Magnas count as Strains anymore as well

[strange shell]

Are magnas even still canon ?

[acoustic osprey]

Who knows

Although, PI still exists (Existed in lore, probably destroyed)

Operation Inferno might've occurred still, who knows

[acoustic osprey]

lol

[nocturne cosmos]

So lightclaw can you please tell us about what happened in operation inferno

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/avengers-endgame-final-battle-thor-shouting-gif-14408554

https://tenor.com/view/dead-dino-gif-9373568

[nocturne cosmos]

This ends today’s class

[acoustic osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/fenixtotal-gif-25226550

❌