#🦡︴cotw-scotland
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I'd be really, really surprised if we did tbh. This update is going to be massive enough without one
They should make it bigger by adding one😂
next update though, that might be another story
I mean this up date would be amazing but if its the next then i wont complain
Would be because I’m British lol
cool
Reason: Posted an invite
Thank you!
The discord invite was fully an accident
Ill scrubscibe
I tried to copy everything on mels video as a joke but I didn't notice the discord invite
😭😂
Just curious, who thinks the new GO will be a moose or just something else?
Elk has veen voted the most wanted,but moose is 2nd
Can we be honest? While the talk of a semi auto 12 is cool,it having only three rounds will make it useless compared to the already in game 12 gauge with 6 rounds.
That’s kinda hilarious lol- thank you!
True- I guess we would have to see what it’s like
I’m kinda hoping for something a lil more out there- like the 17hmr which is popular for shooting birds from the sky when out of shotgun range in classic
Yeah. But the big issue we have is the 22H existing...
True, tho in classic the 17hmr is ridiculously strong
But yeah it could make the 22h useless
I dunno being able to fire rounds faster makes it easier to get doubles and triples
at least for me with the semi auto 20ga
I hunt IRL with one. Plenty enough to kill foxes,raccoons,squirrels,rabbits.
Hell I've killed a fox,a raccoon and a load of squirrels with it.
Yes and no? I agree yet I don't. Its a weird limbo for me.
The fact you don't have to reload and can theoretically put more shots on more birds is the biggest issue.
I think they should allow it for class 3 animals if they were to add a .17 hmr
cuz the .22h is actually really good for bobcats but they're class 3 so you can't really use it on them
Wouldn't it be the first 1-3 at that point?
That’s a good point honestly
Ye
and the only other class 3 animals are roe deer, lynx, and springbok I think?
maybe musk deer
Axis are 3 aren’t they?
Kinda weird that axis are class 3 and sika are class 4 even though they have similar weights
it would be overlooked with the amount of content coming yeah
too many things in one update seems like a good thing, but to an extent it's not
Any news on the release date of Finland
No
alright thanks
We might get the trailer on Tuesday, and hopefully the release date at the end of it 🤞🏻
Thanks hopefully we do
"release date of Finland" sounds so wrong
Don't be mad, I know what do you mean
Ay yes when is the release date of FINLAND mighty noble ones?
Lol it sounds funny tho
Nah fix the 12ga o/u and we are good
December 6, 1917 is when Finland will come out lol
As long as u have a 1810 calendar, u can set the date
It won't be useful for geese in my opinion. But rabbits,quail,pheasants and the new ones were getting with Finland it would be awesome.
I know, also 12ga semi with almost the same camo, and engravings as the 20ga and we will be good. Like imagine to get the engraved 12ga u have to kill every bird species on the map.
Like they could look like this possibly
I'd use it then. Thats for sure.
Engraved guns look so good.
I like mission guns so I would love to unlock the engraved version by having to kill all the bird species on the map
I would like it if they made it like an A5
I think we should get a weapon that is fun
Like the Caversham
It only holds 2 shots, but it's a shit load of fun
I am hoping for a 16ga DB
Anyways, I cant wait for this Map to release and for waterfowl to be fixed
We already have one
Any release date speculation?
I dont know day but prob next month they normally release a map in june and december
wonder what they will show tomorrow
Same
Ron im guessing they will play the finland map
I see lots of people who cant wait for an africa 2 map because they want elephants
But deep in our hands we all know what we really want
The 700 Nitro Express
700 NE on the right compared to different types of bullets, including a 12gauge shell and a 30-06 round
aftrica map likely be next at Christmas to compete with Ultimate hunting
Next to the 700 is the 500 Nitro, the weapon we got with vurhonga
been saying for a while some new big game rifles would be cool
africa 2.0 maybe to go with them at christmas
although personally id love texas over africa
we got the .470NE with Vurhonga
i think we may see a new map trailer maybe tomorrow or friday zeek
Oops, my bad
Well the 470 is only slightly smaller than the 500, so it still gives a decent sense of scale
I think they’ll play on one of the maps that are getting reworked so we get a small sneak peek at that, and then maybe some information about the new map and update, maybe even revealing a few of the species on Revontuli Coast
i do think we will see something new or special tomorrow roll on tomorrows stream 😁
🤞
maybe show off the moose Great one
but i really dont want to see it till someone shoots one
What if they will reveal a trailer?
or too early
Yeah tommorows stream will be great for sure
they might, I think they’ll wait a week or two, but they have been very unpredictable lately, so I won’t rule out anything 😄
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This looks cool
Yea.
Wait so what's the stream time now in america?
What time zone?
Central US
Whats the time for you rn
8:22
Oh ight thanks
basically stream starts in 36 min
No problem!
stream is tomorrow tho
is the new upcoming finland map going to have a 338 lapua magnum
I honestly hope not
I hope tomorrow they would play on the map that has some waterflow to show us how they look now and end the stream with trailer
We can only hope
But I really hope they make waterfowl hunting the center point of the map, it would be a very unique concept and I think the game as a whole would benefit from the diversity that is different types of hunting
honestly i dont know
but my expectations are pretty high bc i am finnish
Oh yeah
I hope we will get beavers
I just want to know why the classes go up to 10 on the new wheel thing, it shows 1-10 and not 1-9 for the suggested ammo types on the ammo spot
what wheel?
It was in the videos. They have a weapon/item select wheel that is mostly for console but available for everyone with the update
it shows that you're using x ammo type and then below that is shows the suggested classes but it goes to 10 o.O
ah thats what you meant
i think its most likely a mistake
Whales, obviously. Orcas. But you can only shoot them while they're jumping out of the water, or the corpse will vanish
or maybe there are class fixes instead of adding class 0
Possibly but someone had to type out 1-10 instead of 1-10 or did an array of 1-9. Seems like a really weird mistake to me and one that would have been easy to fix. I know it's not out yet but...
they do tend to lay the groundwork for something that they'll be adding in the future
but i don't think they'd do it this soon
Maybe
Class 1 - 16ga, 20ga , .410
Class 2 - 12ga, 10ga
They did tell us that they couldn't tell us everything and they did seem to try and avoid that whole gun section but we're pretty watchful so.... they couldn't
if they were to add a class 10 it can only mean they'll add something like elephants or rhinos
That's what I'm hoping for 😄
which is why i think its a mistake
Class 10 is any Great One
Great one is trophy level 10 not class 10
that doesn't make sense
no weapons for classes 10 animals
They said class 10 is a great one. Level 9 legendary Level 10 Fabled great one
If I had to use a 470 nitro express on a great one bunny...
they corrected themselves later
Level 10 not class 10 yer. There is no class 10
and said they meant that any great one is lvl 10 not class 10
possibly it is a restructuring of the classes, those animals that were class 9 will now be class 10
I sure hope not, that's going to ruin some of the guns I've purchased most likely
Coupd be Rexio maybe they will change the scorring system again
i hope they eventually get rid of the class system
and adopt the system they have in Classic
It annoys me that a diamond lynx is worth a score of around 20 but a trivial red deer do is 300. Dosent make sense to me.
I would love it if all animals were the same scoring system. I am not going to write it downa nd I can't remember what a a diamond blacktail is vs a white tail
or whatever
Basically all my rarest diamonds are too low a score to see on the harvest screen
because lynx score is based on the skull and red deer score is based on the dimensions of the antlers
lynx don't have a 150in x 150in skull
Yeah that is true but the trivial females with no antlers still get a far higher score than a species which is far harder and rarer
I think any diamond should be a higher score than any trivial.
Old scoring system >
they are on the same scoring system, truracs, they just have different antler dimensions because they're different species
Yes Vivid
Not what I meant. If I see a diamond blacktail it's worth like 180 points or whatever but a diamond whitetail is like 255(minimum)
That makes sense
I hope it's a change in classes since shooting a quail with a 10ga doesn't seem very ethical xD
the session score?
I'm pretty sure session score is just based on the level of the animal
and WT max out at level 3
When’s the release date
we dont know yet but maybe they may say something in tomorrows live stream
K
99% chance it’s a UI bug
Because if that were the case a lot of species would need to be readjusted for that to make sense. Lion being class 5-6 max being one
Grizzly being class 8-9
I'm almost 100% convinced that the trailer is tomorrow, that's why the stream is early so they can upload it early on YouTube!
Either that or it gonna be a longer stream to show off the duck rework
Possibly both
They don't want to work on the weekends either. lol
Why that’s probably when they work so they would do their work on work days
well im in school on weekdays
I’m at work. I watch it when I can.
They don't work on weekends.
Yep. I don’t either. I hope they relax as much as I do.
That's what VODs are for
watch it be the trailer and release date being May 31st I'd laugh
almost every time they do it's 2 weeks after the trailer
they announced the map way too early to have a "late june release" idk how people still think that it's coming over a month away 😂
People like being hopeful. It’s good that we want it early, it means they did something right with just the small teaser they released
I think this time the map will come out 3 weeks after the trailer, not 2, because it's a big update, the waterfowl and all, so that's why I think early June release.
Wonder if tomorrow they will be playing the new map and showing us stuff 👀
I hope
could be 3, but it's very rare it's that long
only map that did it that long was Rancho
and it was fairly average because of it
I think they'll play on it next week, tomorrow gonna be only the trailer ... I'm not gonna watch neither stream gameplay or content creators' gameplay, I'm gonna go blind on the new map, spoiled nothing and get mindblown every minute!
the map comes out next month right
once you announce a trailer for a map you have a limited amount of time to get it out while people are still interested. Rancho isn't what I considered a "fan favorite" like SRP for example
i heard that from my friend
Sometime next month is the most likely time window
Right well I hope they tell us all 19 different animals well the ten new ones 😭😂I'm excited for the trailer
I noticed some only play on Rancho lol ... especially some content creators ...
for great ones...
mainly
I don't ever see many rancho servers open...even on weekends
Last week of June is the traditional release time for a Summer Map.
That's the thing, I'm not gonna know the species when getting the map, I wanna go hunt there not knowing what 19 species I'm gonna come across
they also traditional don't reveal a map this early
traditionally*
fr
Very true. Nothing is set in stone. They said they were doing things differently this year.
I'm personally thinking early June release
think about it for a second...
Revealing a teaser for the map
dropping it 6 weeks later...
that makes no sense
Mid-June is my guess
yeah
hype is gone at that point...
Btw, the music of this map might be the same lvl with Yukon and SRP ... I mean ... just YouTube search "Scandinavian Folk Music" that's gonna be it on the new map
They need time to showcase all 19 animals
Like Lyra said sounds like a good shout to me. Not before then.
maamme
they could easily do that on social media in between days of not streaming
just saying 🤷♂️
Viking music incoming xD
I imagine after this stream if they do drop a trailer we'll start to see some showcases like they did with MA
and spacing it out is how they tend to build hype to begin with
lol
Thats it keep thy hype going longer get the inteterest. Its a good idea
This next map already has a lot of "shoes to fill" with it being a "SRP rival" only time will tell 😛
true
I do wonder how true that statement will hold up
They better add simo hayha or something
I mean considering all the waterfowl do y'all see a new dog coming as well 🤔
Ueah i think it will very different to the super easy SRP though. Finland will be more popular with people that like the more challenging maps i think.
like me
Yes Rolli we will love it
i like a little more challenging maps
depends on how easy the waterfowl is
😄
do you even know who that is
most of the big game is repeats iirc
finnish sniper
moose, brown bear, whitetail...
i know
how many birds do you think they will add?
A lot
We dont know yet what the new waterfowl hunting will be like. Dont think it will be easier thats for sure
9-10
They could just hire Värttinä, or better yet, Loituma to sing the classic Ievan Polkka
What needs correction? What's the bug?
lol
8 have been confirmed
good idea thought
I love Finnish folk
trailer's gonna be like 15 minutes long lmao
They made a mistake, the stream should come sooner! 😂, "Long have I waited" it's time to "Dew it"
this
30min trailer 😂
i want wood pidgeon added they are common here
😁
Great one wolf leaked
I never really grinded ducks I just see random lvl 3s and shoot em and boom a diamond don't even gotta grind 😂😭
🤣
why it looks so wrong
oh no
Norway in eurovision
but no more about ti in this channel
Class 10 in wheel
wut moment
I hope this update they get more multi mounts for Elk or just in general
Elephant confirmed 😄 👍
?
This time tommorow 15 minutes ago it should start
What dose 1600 crest mean?
4:00pm their time
Ol thanks an hour earlier then
lol
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thanks
Nice! Don't have to skip another gym appointment at 9 lol
Is the zarza 15 good at all?
b a l d
I think it would be pretty easy if like 5 of those are ducks and 2 of those are geese and grouse and capercaillie will be in the same area
i havent bought the pack, i dont know
what ducks do you want to see added?
mallard
Pintail, King Eider, Common Pochard, Northern Shoveler and that would be about it for Finland. However I do want wood ducks on Acres
I really want the Northern Shoveler as well
which one? 223 or 308?
loved pintail in classic too
both guns comes in the same pack
i want golden eye widgeon and pintail
sure i ask because not one of them is zarza 15
308 is good. 223 underpowered
i havent shooted with any of the guns in the modern rifle pack
i like them. the 308 is my goto long gun
okay
Also long tailed duck would be cool
Ima grind geese now so that I have enough for decoys and tents for every new waterfowl and every waterfowl added on old maps
Same, wood duck and mandarin duck are the two duck species i want added
So who’s ready for tomorrow’s stream? 👀
Too tired with irl to be excited for anything lollllll
Absolutely and looking forward to your analysis of it on your whotube channel.
think we going to have a lot of people watching 😁
I wonder if we will see a full trailer 👀👀 thank youuuuu!
For real! The hype is big!!!
Yes i hope each week we get more and more viewing numbers. I think next week a full trailer i dont know though.
The more viewers they get = the more likely they will do something huge like a full trailer
They said they wanted to break viewing records with this stream.
This is true
More than 3500 i thonk they could do it. Lets spread the good word
We usually get the trailer a week after the teaser ... so yea ... most likely xD
My heart might explode from hype if that happens lol
They said they are doing things differently this year
It might be one of the longest reserve trailers (maybe 3 minutes) since they got 19 species to show lol
Very true, very true
Yes it will be an amazing trailer certainly. No doubt. Some of their trailers look better than hollywood movie trailers.
What do you mean DiFfeReNtLy?
They said in their stream that the way they are doing the clue season and release will be different from what they have done before. So we can't say they usually do this so they will do that.
Oh the clues, yea I heard that too, we didn't get in game clues this time ... and the release is most likely gonna be early June
I’m curious what people are thinking? Moose, goose/duck, or brown bear GO? (There is no moose emote lol)
All of the above plz 👀 lol in my dreams - but also my nightmares because I wouldn’t know what to go for first lol!
I can see it being brown bear y’know
Because think about it
We had whitetail from Layton (map 1)
Red deer from hirsch (map 2)
Soooo
Medved was the third map in game
And exclusively has/had brown bear
That’s my train of thought
I am thinking brown bear too mel, but if they make a brown bear GO it means they’d have to make medved base game/free.
I guess that’s also true - but what about when they do GOs in future for say lion or idk Sika for example?
I think brown bear is the best option for now. It’s so tied into Finland. It’s the first GO predator. And it gives medved major love.
Maybe it doesn’t have to stay as free maps?
Because they can be found in multi now
It’s possible they start putting it behind paywalls, but I don’t know if they would yet. But a free medved would be HUGE.
So technically everyone can access all maps for free
True
I still think them making GO's able to be found in multi ended up being a big mistake but that's a convo for another time
For as much as people are saying medved needs love - GO brown bear, free, complete rework and maybe added species if people are right. It would be an instant awesome map.
But also detracts from the work people put into getting them
So it’s difficult to decide lol
Medved is on the list for a pop reset and redistribution too
Yup
Tho so is every map save SRP
It’ll be interesting tomorrow. Bear was on the go survey so they’ve been thinking about it.
But just the lore of brown bear in Finland. Man. It would be the perfect time.
It would
I don't think I will update the game until I check all my maps
if there is a diamond or something
They said it's better then in Classic 👀
a game around 13 years old does not say much. Considering the engine is much better in handling complex things it should be
Some say due to EWs commitment to be fair and impartial that a great one would only be from the 2 original game maps and not from paid dlc. However i kind of agree with Mel because i remember the new year messagage saying "We can Bearly contain our excitement"
we'd never get an RME GO in that case
I think you guys are looking to far into it tbh
which is the type of elk people want a GO of the most
that post was at the start of the new year iirc. They do that every year lmao
it more so "we have a bunch of DLC, we can't wait to announce them"
Plus a great one has not be properly confirmed. Jaxy n TK may have been trying to make you think that way. They may be just teasing. Its not confirmed.
Isn't it the same engine? In some parts Classic represents the engine better, we got flowing rivers and waterfalls in Classic and neither of it in COTW
yes and no, every engine has it's pros and cons
idk if they are the same engine or not
probably not considering the differences and limitations
Unless older dlc is eventually included in the base game or free for all players i cant see a GO unique to one dlc map no.
via yt polls it's Roosevelt though
Moose is an Elk
There is no such thing as finnish elk
It didn't specify which elk.
There is moose though.
that's bs
I thought it specifically said Roosevelt at the end when "elk" was an earlier option, no? 🤔
There are elk in Finland tho
Nope, it was just "elk"
If there is a GO most people think a Moose which is in the vanilla maps.
the antlers are massive already and we saw what they did with red deer 😂
Moose are called elk in Europe.
Definitely probable , but everything in that pic has been announced thus far, so it’s curious. From the lighting effect to the vegetation, to 2 hunters .
the first link I got when searching "are there elk in finland" brought me to a page that did as such.
It’s not a long shot the bear has significance
I don't see it being a GO predator yet considering they have no truscore of any kind
Think Fimland have imported some American species.
so every GO would be exactly the same in a way
Whitetail, yeah.
Well the current great ones are similar. I think WT only have 6 or 7 racks.
The GO wt anyway.
they all have differences, you just have to look closer 😛
the tines are always different
...whitetail and fallow in the same map would be interesting
Yes so Whitetail GO will already be there. Very unlikely they will pop a new one in there. One GO per map.
the "one GO per map" would contradict with the statement that the devs are intending for every animal to eventually get a GO
^
I mean this eliminates moose too.
Would love a Fallow GO but wirh the diamonds they all have the same antler so a bit booring
they aren't all the same
a min diamond to a 270 look quite different
there's not much you can do with fallow antlers besides getting into nontypical territory
This is because in North American English what are called "moose" are called "elk" in Europe, including (at least historically) British English. "Moose" is from native American languages. French is more sensible and calls North American elk "wapiti" (also from Native American languages). So, yes, technically Finland has elk, but Americans and Canadians call them "moose" 🙂
Can red deer GO's have this rack but with leaves or is it impossible?
Not entirely because the 18 species from the first 2 maps go to all the other maps 2 there 2 over there n so on. Id say Moose Black Bear and Roosevelt Elk and then Falliw would most likely be the next GOs
In terms of reserve/map coverage, a GO moose would be best because there would instantly be on 4 maps
Aware of that. The conversation my statement was part of was referring to the fact that there are no wapiti in Finland.
Hopefully i am wrong but do you think a GO would be put exclusively behind a pay wall? This is EW not scummy EA or Activision Blizzard
eventually they will
No one can be as scummy as Blizzard. NO ONE.
most species are planned to have GOs
Agreed
I have no doubt moose will be GO eventually but in terms of this clues season there is not 1 basis of evidence pointing to moose. Makes me suspicious at this point.
Lol absolutely right there
I don't even see us getting a GO this update
too much in it
I prefer more time go into the idea then we slap some vines on the antlers and push it out.
Why not? Other than developing a model, everything else exists now (spawn rate, etc.)
Moose won the majority of the survey, but so did Africa 2.0. Nordic map was like 3rd place. Their roadmap is already set before they put those surveys out.
idk how big the animal modeling department is now, but it was pretty known back in the day it was maybe a few people at that
I don’t know that for sure, but I’m starting to suspect they are market research more than roadmap planning.
Imagine if Activisio/Blizzard made this game, they drop crates and you can pay 59.99 dollars to open one to find a great one part. Collect 100 parts and a great one spawns on the map.
ew
I dunno. I hope any of these guesses are right tbh so people have fun things to grind. Moose never made sense to me from the start. Back when we thought this was a waterfowl map it was strange to me that they were going to make you grind moose instead of waterfowl after all that work so I thought ducks. But that’s also because they hinted a GO with a duck pic. Now after they’ve said this is not a waterfowl map I’m def camp brown bear just for the lore and after finding that New Years pic…I dunno. Hard to ignore.
...when did they say this wasn't a waterfowl map?
I know they said that about Acres
On last weeks stream. Tk said it was not a waterfowl map.
think it was said its just not a waterfowl map
^^^ yea this
Says where sky meets water. 8 animals 11 birds some upland some waterfowl some game. I think but more of a waterfowl map than the other maps
I think he was putting to bed that this isn’t a map just for the rework
new map will def have a focus on waterfowl
it would be lame as hell to see 1-2 duck species and 1 goose
Finland has way more lakes than most countries.
Yes its bound to fill up those lakes
so we're getting 2 american species there
Nice one Ron
mallards and whitetailed deer
moose
No sure if Mallard are just american think they are in most placss. Whitetail yes
ohh
latvia?!?
I def think it’ll have a good number of birds and waterfowl but our thoughts off the bat we’re that this map was extremely tied into the rework and that doesn’t seem@the intention.
i hope we get a new bird multimount with like 10 different species
I hope Harleys and teal get one
I would love to have my albino and melanistic in a mount together of some kind
Agreed
Ok - found the clip. It was Jaxy, not TK who said it. https://clips.twitch.tv/ResourcefulCoyBaboon4Head-hQtNUTqHkel5sEZl
This is where they were talking about the map not being exclusive to the rework.
he still said "duck will be a big part"
obv the map will not be exclusive ti ducks
to
I did however just pick out the log is 1 goose species and two different duck species
can tell by the wings
well of course. i think given the context - he was trying to kill the myth that this was somehow exclusive to the rework or that this was a waterfowl rework map.
yea - this was the statement that made me lose my thought that the GO was a duck or goose. If it was an exclusive waterfowl map...then it made sense, but this made me think twice.
as much as I would like that EW knows the community would flip if it wasn't moose
The great one will be a roe deer. 🤣
i dont know...this is why i think the surveys are something different than we think. I mean there are a lot of people hoping for brown bear now too and that wasnt even on the radar. People really wanted africa or aus as a map - now people are pumped.
obviously those things are still very important...but i am suspicious that the surveys in some way are market research...like...ok are we WAY off with our road map, or are the numbers acceptable enough for us to continue forward.
Multi species goose setups would be fun.
Yea
predator GO would be one of the worst ideas they would have since the original idea of scoring 2.0
gutshots would still give you the diamond medal
Lmao
anyone remember when that was a thing on stream lmfao
what do you mean?
I really hope they fix the duo detection glitch before the new waterfowl map comes out, it's currently impossible to goose hunt with a friend becuaese the geese detect us at like 130 meters no matter what blind we use
I'll explain
But I have no problem solo
Back when they showed scoring 2.0 (the current system)
You could shoot a diamond in the stomach and you would get a diamond from it.
It would be cool because they could be for example a lion but look like scar from lion king stuff like that
Sit in a bush. Blinds are worthless in this game.
that's gonna be a major issue
that's like shooting wt for a wt go
with every rack being exactly the same
Yea but they could maybe be bigger or just look cool
But the layout blind works perfectly solo so idk what the problem is
you see the point?
If i had to geuss id suggest 2 upland birds 6 ducks 4 geese 7 mammals So maily waterfowl hence land of a thousand lakes where sky meets water and the waterfowl logo.
like I said unless we got truscore bears, that idea is very bad rn
Yeah idk. The layouts only sometimes work.
people would get bored in 2 weeks tops
I love the idea of being able to take me and 2 buddys and sticking us in a row of layouts
Tru sizes?
But you're better off sitting different bushes.
I will say this about brown bear similar to saying this about ducks when i thought they might be the GO. no one even conceived they would do the vine rack for red deer GO. EW is going to make them cool. I have very little worry about their ability to think of how to make a predator GO cool.
that's why it's not an option, they need to keep it to deer species or horned
just imagine shooting the same looking animal 1,000-5,000 times to get 1 that looks different
what they will look like, who knows. thats for them to figure out. but they did it with red deer.
Yes due to the scoring system i really cant see a non antler being a GO
im not sure how. all non trurack are scored bronze to diamond now. its just a bigger score.
In my opinion, they can do predators only if there is a visual size difference. But that would take some time to do given that all animals have a static size to them. It would take a lot of work, but it would suck if the GOs were only inclusive to antlered and horned animals
the can do skull measurments though
Yeah i cant get my little brain around it tbh but a Brown Bear GO suddenly getting a higher score than the elks and larger deer seems unlikely to me
Would that be visible outside of the harvest screen though?
Thats a good point
like truRACS, yes.
truscore is what they need and what I'm talking about
for the idea to work
Size difference between a trivial Lynx and a diamond one, guess only CashnipLeaf would notice.
Brown bear GO
If they do it based on the skulls, they still need to make the skull proportional to the body
it would be similar to classic. You notice it very easily.
for the lynx idea
unless it's being spotted 300m away
Bit mangy, wouldnt make a good rug out of it
yeah that would need to be addressed.
Thats the thing. Big dominant male covered in scars with a semi truck for a head.
Sure yeah. But although some say size isnt everything, i think it matters and currently our animals stay the same size, they would have to redign them from scratch.
Yeah looks unique n cool i get that
Thats not a bear you make a rug out of. Hes mounted as a full body.
^
Nice yeah pop it in albino and you've sold the idea to me
A awesome multi mount would be the brown bear GO taking down another GO.
They could possibly make the predator GOs completely aggressive. It’s not the greatest idea, but what if the animal has a 100% chance of coming after you? Smaller predators would need something different
Yeah there is a mount called bear hug, that would be great for bear GOs
Smaller predators slink around and try and hit you from behind,a larger GO like a bear or lion will just charge you.
Ay so giving them water buffalo level shit
Approximately 187 000 😉
Yes, but even more so
Ok like beware the ravenous wil red fox chasing after you. Okaaaaay lol
I will be beyond happy the day that water buffalo get a great one like that will be the most excitement I could get for one maybe mule deer would be close second
Scrappy Do the wild Fox
I honestly wouldn't mind a fallow GO
Bison are very rare diamonds though.
I'm not the biggest fan of trying to grind for bison and Cape buffalo but I can hunt water buffalo all day long and have fun
I like hunting them. I want a diamond and I rarely even see high golds.
I need a European diamond to finish the collection of them
sorry, working and trying to keep up with the convo. lol. the one thing about bears i am curious about - would females make GO?
If you get a diamond Euro Bison consider yourself an expert at the game. (I havent and dont)
and also...how would you grind them? They arent in herds like WT or RD.
I've killed nearly all my bucklist diamonds. I just need a alligator,a bison,a cape buffalo,and a raccoon.
That could be a little callback to a mission in Classic
Bear GO?
Lol
if that comment was in regards to a bear GO
In regards to A fallow great one. Its a shame this isn't a rare fur pattern for fallow
That is exactly why predators are rarer diamonds and will never be a popular GO because unlike Deer they dont line up in a row nicely at every lake next to your tent during the day. Predators would be a proper challenge rather than the usual retitive grind. People wont like the idea.
I honestly think grinding is boring. I did it for my fallow diamond and didn't even kill it that way. I just shot the highest level male I could barely see.
It was so stupid.
yeah grinding can easily cause burnout
Completely agree. Even fast travelling breaks the immersion for me.
I'm 1000+ in on my second WT one and I am sick of Acres at this point
its possible they just up the spawn rates for brown bear, so i wouldnt worry much about that part.
I'm too the point where I don't even like carrying more then 2 guns if its not a rifle,a shotgun,and a handgun.
meaning - if WT GO spawns 5% off a WT diamond, then just up the brown bear to 20%.
or whatever the balanced number is.
Trouble is once u start a GO grind u need to keep going till u harvest it. If u shoot anything else or switch maps then u mess with the rng n map heat.
2800 reds in on ta I'm about to go insane
If I ever kill a great one it will be pure luck.
wait...explain this more? im not understanding.
I'm not grinding for it. I don't like doing it.
I hate not being able to use blinds for the same reason.
I'm pretty sure great ones have the same chance of spawning regardless. Just the more you kill the higher chance you have of it spawning
My WT GO was an initial spawn on layton lmfao
Or at least I'm pretty sure it was
Ok i assumed u were familiar with the content creators grind methods. Check some if them out if youre interested
I would!
GO spawn off diamonds. its all about raising or lowering the trophy score.
Bow hunting needs fixed
You should be able to camo blinds and be completely invisible unless you're moving
Buckshot and slugs need reworked
Shotguns need a choke system.
Not necessarily.
Getting a predator GO as a kill would be a top notch trophy
I am...or thought i was a bit...i havent heard of this though.
100%.
my first GO did not come off a diamond's respawn
No one knows exactly how the spawning works, I think the great one spawns are similar to the way rares spawn
iirc it came off a gold
it's just a set chance, but a low chance
They're just a random spawn for everyone except me...
With Red Deer for example ud only being shooting the top 2 stags in each herd in say 8 drink zones and just repeat that and never deviate from it until the job is done.
I swear @sudden ginkgo did something... didn't like the Lynx competition LOL
So he banned my GOs LOL
(totally kidding)
My Red Deer GO spawned off of a level 6 at a small lake. Small enough to only ever have a single male there and the run before he spawned I killed a 6 and no I did not miss anything else
ok, didnt mean to open a can of worms - and i could write an essay on respawns in the game. the amount of hours ive put into figuring out how respawns work is nutty. but i have full confidence that great ones spawn off diamonds.
Ye I think they just have the same chance of spawning regardless of what they spawn off of
like rares
Debunked. Several times.
You’d be wrong lol
Its all down to the god of rng. But to put the odds in your favour its best to stick with one map one species one sex otherwise u r just adding extra to the rng n lessening your chances
hmmmmmm interesting.
If they did spawn off diamonds technically no initial spawns would exist
With deer i shoot the femals as well tbh. Im all for equality.
ok...id definitely love to pick your brain, because there are a number of reasons i wouldnt agree with this.
biggest is...spawns dont change gender so shooting females has no bearing on a great one spawn.
Ok but nobody knows an answer for certain except a couple of developers
That one is true, spawns do not change genders
yeah
I 100% agree i have always said any animal can respawn as a male or female so it dosent matter. Some disagree with that but from my 5 years experience id suggest it really makes no difference.
They 100% can honesrly
spawns do not change gender...if you down a female it respawns female.
Exactly
I do not believe that. Animals can switch in and out of zones where a different gender was previously but they spawn the same gender, just a different size
Size, fur type, the usual etc.
Depends on the species i believe
Nah
Roe Deer for example dosent matter Red Deer it dose.
what matters?
gender
Seriously? Ok if you all say so i best be more careful what i shoot.
no. i cant express this enough. females respawn female. males respawn male. in every instance.
Ye that's what I meant
Things like female roe deer n moose though, there are so many i just think bang take that i'll have the xash n xp now dont come back
Otherwise, you could potentially have a single gender population
I didnt think of that good point
So the only femals to shoot are Gemsbock, Euro Hare, any others?
i think what people see as respawns are actually need zone mechanics. for instance...id be curious if those that shot a great one off a gold...if they had 0 diamonds in their grind.
if that happens...im listening.
Some say its very rare but possible that a GO is already on your map.
Last July several CCs had 3 gos down in just a few weeks.
Cottontails iirc
Female chamois can make diamond too
What DLCs do you already have roush
shoot them all. they are good money and xp. just dont wipe them from your zone.
Ok thanks guys
are you sure you don't want a map
oh wait you can play them on mp right
mp is risky though
hackers can affect your singleplayer maps through multiplayer
just be careful, try to play with people you trust
Quail. Only female quail can make diamond.
for non map dlcs id recommend one of these:
treestands & tripods - lets you shoot tons of animals in one spot
wild goose chase or whatever - you can make a crap ton of money off geese
weapon pack 1 - 22 (great for small game), crossbow (allowed on all animals), recurve
smoking barrels - m1 (super fast and strong), 10ga (best shotgun imo), 50 caplock
atv - makes traversing the map way easier
The 10 gauge would be the best. If it had 4x more pellets then the 20 gauge and the 410
To my knowledge all shotguns have the same amount of pellets in birdshot.
12ga pump has 6, but is weaker than the 10ga
smoking barrels is my favorite weapon pack
It is. Its very good at taking things at up to 150 if you can hit them. Even with the round ball ammo.
Thats great to know tyvm. Apparently they are one the hardest diamonds
Its gotta to the point I try and shoot females first. Males can hit high gold but they can't hit diamond because its measured by weight.
I use the 10 guage atm was hoping to get a Quail n Pheasant to finish the bird diamonds before the new birds come out.
I use the semi auto or SXS 20 when I hunt quail. I killed my diamond pheasant with the 16 gauge pump.
Ok so with birds same as me shoot the lot. Yeah i thought that the best strategy, same with small game. Anthything other than large deer. If youre in my way down u go.
Congrats i really want one. Diamond pheasant seem rare toi. U use ironsights with that skill point that zoims in twice?
All hares cottontail rabbit and quail are the only ones that are female only diamonds gemsbok chamois and gray fox are male and female diamonds
I hardly ever focus. And yes I use irons. I like the 16 and both 20's because the irons don't suck. I've been using the 12 gauge with the red dot recently on geese tho
Ok same as me good. And do u think the shotguns have varying degrees of recoil and accuracy or not really?
The "recoil" of the shotguns doesn't bother me that much. I hunt with a shotgun irl more then anything else and I can tell you the games recoil system is nothing like how a "professional" hunter would handle recoil.
The 20 gauge has a slight jump too it
16 has more recoil then 12
And 10 is only good for geese due to the recoil and low capacity.
Sure yup its all about muscle memory irl
Ok i wont use the 10 anymore. I assumed 10ga birdshot would have more punch n spread than a 20 but seems the same to me
You're better off using the 12 or the 16. All the shotguns have the same amount of pellets to my knowledge.
It feels like it does for sure.
Quail and pheasant die very easily however. 2 or 3 pellets will kill them.
That would be lyra she had 1 great one 0 diamond 0 rares in 278 (iirc) kills on rancho
Thanks for your advice appreciate it
But the sights suck
You can more reliably shoot them from a while away tho
When the bead/receiver ring is bigger than the bird it doesn't matter.
Not to mention the 10 gauge has more recoil and you can't put any sight on it.
If you could put the scope or one of the red dots on it? Maybe.
3 rounds,more recoil,worse sights? No thanks.
Ok thnx i cant reliably see Quail from a distance yet alone shoot em and as for finding them lol
Yeah i tried the 10ga. Not a fan tbh.
Again as a person from the nearby area,if you want to be realistic use a 870 [12 g pump] or either of the 20 gauges.
For a rifle use the 270,30-06 or 45-70.
Ok thanks Chris will give that loadout a run.
My honest favorite loadout is the 44,the 30-06 and the 20 gauge SXS
Ive not used the 44 in ages. Had a diamond roosevelt elk from one a long time ago. One shot to the heart.
I just run at warning calls, then when they fly away i shoot them, and i can hit them no matter where they are with the 10g usually
Ok so best strategy keep running at them?
Thats the best strategy for rabbits n hares imo
12ga cacciatore with 6 cartridges that should compensate for 2 or 3 missed shots
Yes, run at their warning call and spot them and shoot them
Thanks i will do that.
ye, i recommend having the 10g and another shotgun
10g for distanced shots and the other shotgun for closer
Ok i'll use 12ga for closer, 6 shots at close range n nithing escapes
oi
those dont look like the geese we discussed earlier
Those look like canadian hjonkers to me
unless thats hirschfelden
which it doesn't strike me as
Are we still debating the genders of virtual animals?
i wasn't here for like 12+ hours so i have no clue
Sighs 800 kills in on rancho and bucks stopped respawning so now.im on Layton again I hope with the reset they fix that stuff
You cant really tell
They're in the shadows
Not worth overanalyzing
true
where is that from
yeah could be me, but it def does not look like the bean goose
even with the shadow effect the color isn't matching
its def not hirsch apon further looking
and is that white on the head?

CANDA GOOS!
HJONK
I could have told you that, it's the new reserve lol
I hope they make the wing flapping speed realistic
I want beavers tbh good map for em I want revenge
I'm thinking map releases June 3rd
So wait, you did have a diamond kill or no? I’m confused.
beavers are a good fit on the map
so far we have these
Moose
Brown Bear
Whitetail Deer
Raccoon Dog
Western Capercaillie
Black Grouse
Mallard
Canada Goose
Bean/Greylag Goose
~ Bean goose isn't confirmed~ just a really good guess
Unless??? 😏
O: It do be lookin pale
Maybe barnacle goose?
True; the underwing do be lookin light as well
Alternatively- it’s a blurry sunset photo so
only 3 species of goose are on the list of allowed species, Canada goose, Greylag goose and Bean goose, I don't think we will see any other than those
I could see them taking some creative liberties but I guess we'll find out
When would this map even be coming out?
Sometime next month.
On a Tuesday
canda goos confirmed?
the ones in that image are similar, and since the one in the previous image was a Bean/Greylag we can say that it will be one of the species on the map
okay, im still not gonna add anything to the pinned messages thing unless its EW confirmed
Any more confirmed animals?
I'd rather a confirmed date than a animal
we already got the teaser
more teaser
Soo official trailer?
We can hope
Depends if they have a release date. If they do then I’d guess a trailer.
and with trailer you get release dates 😛
^^^^
they have a release date already in mind trust me
it's not something they wing. Once they show off a teaser 90% are set from that point on
latest it'll be is June 7th if things go to plan I bet
I don’t care when it is, I want it to be good
I want a trailer tomorrow and with that a release date and the weeks approaching the release I want more info about the reserve that will get us more excited about it
I also want a double fudge sundae but I will take a trailer
Ooo I want a fudge sundae to
Me too
fudge sundae does sound quite good
I bought 4 cookies and ice cream 😋
12 hours and 20 minutes to go.
well, I won't be able to catch this stream regardless of the time because SCHOOL! but nontheless excited
the perks of not being in school anymore
I'm sure the recap will be in a pinned message here.
haha, I need to hop on and update this ASAP when I get home
thank goodness its gonna be a tuesday and i have no afterschool activities
Yes.
Hoping we learn more about the content other then the map.
A gun if we're getting one tbh
Hahahah all of yall wishin’ for a fudge sundae? I GOT ONE. With homemade brownies AND some whipped cream AND some freshly made strawberry sauce (whole strawberries included)
Would send a pic if there was any left
Nice find creation
Nah ice cream was something my cousins and i made this morning, my grandmother made her family famous brownies, and i also made the whipped cream and the strawberry sauce
The whipped cream was more like chantille cream
#🦝︴off-topic but thats pretty nice
i do have to go... (sadly, no thinking about finland is involved)
Yea (and apologies wanted to say it here since people were talking about it)
I jist fucked up a double diamond on rancho a lvl 2 and 3 I got the 3 and messed up the two I hate myself ugh😭
not the right channel
You know what's mind blowing?! We can't talk about cotw in off topic chat because it's off topic ... but if it is off topic, doesn't that mean that it's fine to talk about it in off topic chat?! xD
😱
😂😂
Go to the general chat
Imagine having school
shut yo
🤪
I would talk crap but I’m tryna get into college in a few months 😭😂
I'm in college rn, glad E.W. releases a new map every time it's finals to ease the pressure!
I cannot wait to hear pegi 16
I think I've successfully signed up for it, but there's no indication that I know of, so ill just hope for the best
Imma try in the morning
I didnt sign up, I want to test it with my friend when it comes out
hope they release pictures/videos of the map tho
Ye
Yall are play testing the new map or another game?
Is the play testing avaliable on console?
Idk
Do you know where i can ask to get an answer?
Remote is only pc
For obvious reasons
Ok
If you didn’t get a message at the end saying they will email or call you with the time around when it happens it didn’t go through
EW showing off finland today?
possibly roll on 2 and half hrs
maybe new GO
Not yet
How long till stream
2 hours
well, if all goes to plan and they do release the trailer for RC, i guess I can just watch it at school
also if anybody could, can you copy my list in pinned messages and add whatever new information we get and DM it to me so I can get an instant update for everyone
i think they are going to show the waterfowl rework today, but not on the new map
but we should get a trailer for it today
I hope not
for everyone's sake
the chat would just be spammed nonstop "show new map" "go on the new map" "can we see the new map"
they have never shown the map and the trailer the same day
because no legit questions would be answered because chat would just be flooded
they have also never shown the map this early
so things in the past may or may not have any say
they said they want to break the viewer record this stream, and to do that they’ll have to show something huge, so whatever it is, I think it’s going to be juicy
and what's SRPs 4000+?
How will the weapon wheel work?
if it's not the new map that won't happen
not enough people are interested in ducks alone to break SRPs record
i doubt we'll see the new map today
We will
I’ve never really paid attention to the viewer number, I’ve always just focused on the actual stream lol
I would pay the map even 20$ just for small game
i mean, i'm not against it
Capercaille grouse ducks geese racoondog
they always say every once in a while when they hit a new record
I just love small game so much
Is it too early in the day to yell HYPE, kind of rude not to. HYPE . Hope they get more viewers they deserve them for sure.
just don't think its likely based on past experience
but by all means, prove me wrong EW
Imagine getting bird dog and 12ga semi auto with the map
I mean, it’s in less than 2 hours from now, so I’d say it’s an appropriate time lol
Does anyone know when the map is supposed to be released?
no
ok thanks
Mid to late June is a good geuss thouvb
Late June 🤢
my guess is 31 may
What we should expect from the today's stream?
they can release it patch later
or 7 june
May 31st or June 7th are really good guesses
Not this week is an even better guess
if it comes out between the 3rd of June and the 10th… that’ll be a
for me since I’m going on vacation at that time lol
but vacation is W so...
ye
Regardless, school for me ends on the 26th
I guess I’ll be prepared at least
and I don't have vacation anywhere
graduating?
Blank you could add campfires to your list. Thats a new feature.
campfires aren't new
I have to go to bed cant stay up for stream got to work early.
Imagine them releasing the DLC directly on stream
they always release a new dlc when i'm neck deep in exams 😩
I wonder how many species they are gonna reveal within the actual trailer
Blank didn't even add reticle customization to the list 😩
In the steam description it says rest by cozy campfires at night. There is also a photo of a campfire.
i have a rat to dissect on thursday....
🐀
Jaxybeard going to be fired up today lol
too bad i cant take home a bag of rat™️
😂
Sort your list out Blank dont leave anyrhing blank m'kay
is he gonna be on stream though, that's early for him
What we should expect from the today's stream?
come ON aight
Meggles on stream today?
added to scenery
I thought he had a hunting trip?
well deam... good luck with that 😅
Thanks thats a great list u r doing
ty
Stream when?
Thank you
Itd be so cool if the map had weather like yukon
Bye
10am est time
What we should expect from the today's stream?
we don't know what to expect
2 hours till the trailer 👀🤞🏻
We usually get it a week after the teaser... so yea, I hope so too xD
we already seen a trailer
Thats what i also thought about
The we get trailer after 1 week
after the teaser
But they said they dont have release date
So we might not get release date
They can just say "Coming Soon" or "Add to Wishlist" at the end of it
or early summer
Even if we don't get the trailer, this stream is gonna be juicy too! Bet we'll know couple of new things coming
I think they said last stream that they are going to reveal something next week
