🦡︴cotw-scotland

[thorny current]

❤️

[midnight moon]

That emoji really is scary

The smile i mean

Not the heart

[glacial flame]

I’m glad I’m not the only one who feels it’s passive aggressive lol

[thorny current]

No that heart is creepy

[midnight moon]

Yeah if we don’t get the clue it’s my fault. I’m a dev i know everything right

🙂

[thorny current]

Yeah

🙃

[thorny current]

Well ima head out I’ll come back if /when the clue drops

[keen warren]

That is actually terrifying

[inland isle]

yeah, at this point im just waiting here because I know once the map finally drops it's going to be lit in here

[midnight moon]

🙂

🙂

🙂

[grizzled fog]

🙂

[small grotto]

any news?

any cotw dev streams today?

[glacial flame]

Nothing yet

[small grotto]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-bored-skeleton-gif-13733904

[midnight moon]

How about now?

[round kite]

in 18 min. prob

[midnight moon]

Well, TK and Meggles... Slowly... Slowly... start giving us the Clue 🙂

[midnight moon]

Yes

🙂

[graceful saffron]

Beef jerky is good with bread 😭😂

[midnight moon]

🙂🙂🙂🙂🙂

TK missed the Upload button

[round kite]

🙂

[inland isle]

the smiley faces feel mildly threatening at this point

[midnight moon]

mildly? 🙂

[round kite]

guys..

tk streaming

and i

i think i saw phas

[midnight moon]

Meggles... was going to give us

[graceful saffron]

Streaming where?

[midnight moon]

the

clue

[round kite]

phas= phasanthunting in cotw maybe

[graceful saffron]

Where the stream at ? Twitch

[round kite]

please we neeeeede phasants

[midnight moon]

Twitch but it’s a personal stream

not EW Stream

[round kite]

just klick on tk in the member list

[graceful saffron]

What else u see buddy old pal 👀

[frail tusk]

phas probably means phasmophobia

[midnight moon]

I’m still believing in Meggles. She will dive to the deepest point in ocean to get us the clue

[round kite]

guys 4 minutes maybe we get the tearser

[frail tusk]

i highly doubt tk's streaming any clues

it's his personal stream, leave him be 😂

[round kite]

true

[midnight moon]

TK won’t it’s his personal

[round kite]

yeah you where right

[thorny current]

One min

[round kite]

1 min.

[midnight moon]

1 minute Doomkan

🙂

[glacial flame]

👀

[thorny current]

🙂

[midnight mist]

ah yes, ghost hunting

but with guns

[round kite]

10

9

8

7

6

5

4

[midnight moon]

No

[round kite]

3

2

1

[midnight moon]

🙂

[midnight mist]

🙂

[midnight moon]

🙂

[round kite]

0

[midnight moon]

🙂

[compact vault]

Get ready

[midnight moon]

🙂

🙂

[spring minnow]

Ok stop the spam guys

[thorny current]

🙂

[round kite]

nothing

[midnight mist]

[round kite]

sorry my fault

[glacial flame]

Well rip I guess

[thorny current]

Yup

[round kite]

well see you tuesday guys

[frail tusk]

meg's not even online lmao calm down

[wind ridge]

Estancia Don Santiago is coming?

[compact vault]

See you

[midnight moon]

20:28

🙂

[midnight mist]

guys

[midnight moon]

Everyone uninstall your game and bring their servers to a standstill until they release the info!!

((jk. I'm about to log on))

[midnight mist]

meggles is gonna come into the chat in 32 minutes and 28 seconds

[eternal oak]

Just curious, why do so many think Meggles is going to give a clue today?

[inland isle]

or we all gather in a multiplayer game and stage a riot at layton lakes

[uneven bloom]

Because everyone's still arguing in circles

[glacial flame]

Same time as last week basically

[midnight moon]

They teased it in the last stream

[vague locust]

Yeah there won't be anything new before tuesday

[eternal oak]

Ok, guess I must have missed that part

[midnight moon]

I’m still believing

[glacial flame]

Yeah I’d guess it won’t be tonight now?

[compact vault]

I think they would tell us if it wasn't going to be tonight

[small grotto]

that's frustrating

[silver robin]

Has the new clue you guys were talking about dropped yet?

[glacial flame]

Nope

[midnight moon]

Doomkan lied to us

Obviously on purpose

Yes

[vague locust]

Has someone actually confirmed that there would be something today?

[midnight moon]

Doomkan kept insisting

[silver robin]

I'm not seeing anything on the socials did I miss somthing?

I thought we were only getting 3 clues?

[tawdry nebula]

Is there a new clue?

[midnight moon]

No...

[tawdry nebula]

😩

After all the wait, clues, arguments and arguments. If the new map weren't Africa, I will die.

[midnight moon]

Meggles was just in TKs Chat...

[eternal oak]

#Dearly beloved, we are gather her to pay our last respects to Adolfus.........

[primal birch]

haha i was just about to say that he better have his will in order.

[compact vault]

Agreed

[golden edge]

Honestly if it's Mexico I won't be buying, there would just be so many reuses

[uneven bloom]

I'd get it either way

[primal birch]

it wont be, don't worry

yeah me too. 100% buying no matter what

[eternal oak]

You realize almost all the animals in the game are reuse of code with just a new skin......

[primal birch]

to me its more about the environments and exploring the maps anyway.

[uneven bloom]

Layton
Parque
"what binds them together"

Layton is in NA, parque is in SA, what binds those two is Central America/Mexico

[golden edge]

I would if they look different, but most will look the exact same

[primal birch]

thats one of the better theories of the ties that bind for sure! my problem with mexico has always been that the clues didn't fit but this is a very good way of thinking.

[uneven bloom]

the gourd is honestly way too vague in itself

comes from too many places

[primal birch]

hah yeah there are many paths

[frail tendon]

my brain is too small to theorize

[midnight moon]

Lmao

[queen latch]

San fernando river is in Mexico?

[midnight moon]

That is not the case

The animal has animation cycles

A rig

A fur shader

Textures

And model

[primal birch]

that really does make a better case for mexico for me now...hmm. lol.

i gotta trust my gut though.

[queen latch]

I wanted Africa but we getting Mexico ;-;

[midnight moon]

The majority wanted a 2nd Africa map

For ages

[eternal oak]

Ocellated Turkey would be cool

[primal birch]

yeah but there are other unique environments around the world that could be done first imo.

i am sure we will get another africa at some point, or at least more animals to the map

[uneven bloom]

tbh, I wouldn't be surprised if it was intended to be Africa 2.0, but IRL events happened to force a schedule change to make edits

[grand cipher]

He showed a clip of the animals of Layton chillin

[eternal oak]

Releases like maps take many months from planning to release. I would bet at least 9-12 months

[grand cipher]

Calm before the storm? Does a hint get released later

[midnight moon]

I came to lurk TK on Twitch, now I feel like playing Wreckfest XD

[grand cipher]

Lmao

[glacial flame]

Well it appears that we aren’t getting something today

[quick grail]

Prob Tuesday ya?

[glacial flame]

Probably

[tawdry nebula]

Lol

[warm basin]

The clues do fit ur theory revolves around google and not the clues themselves

[midnight moon]

True

What I’ve concluded is the following: the map is gonna be in Mexico, it’s gonna suck, all the wt V2 fanboys are gonna love it with 0 IQ why

[ripe bluff]

Someone said last night that the photo was only in reference to the background, Not the map itself. The background is a sunrise.

[uneven bloom]

and now I'm left with the feeling that if it is a Mexico map, anyone that openly likes it is going to get harassed quite a bit.

[eternal oak]

It seems a majority have been asking for a second whitetail map for awhile, so this should satisfy that. I am hoping for Ocellated Turkey, but we shall see. Really not wanting more boar.

[midnight moon]

I was questioning how meggles framed the clue in her recap.

[ripe bluff]

ok

[pearl hatch]

sun map confirmed

[vague locust]

Land of the rising sun confirmed

[midnight moon]

For Layton she just said Layton. For Fernando she said it was the photo.

[eternal oak]

Japan??

[uneven bloom]

that'd def be interesting

[eternal oak]

I was just thinking the same thing

[vague locust]

Would be interesting but there is nothing that ties it with layton

[uneven bloom]

would most likely be revenge of the sika deer

[eternal oak]

Land of the rising sun is Japan

[uneven bloom]

since those are in overabundance there

and maybe asiastic black bear

[midnight moon]

I’m personally torn between Ohio valley with the ugrr or China.

[warm basin]

If I'm being honest its growing on me to have mule deer and whitetail drinking at the same pond while pronghorn feed in the desert😂

[uneven bloom]

Ohio would be NA Hirsch.

[eternal oak]

Won’t be China, hunting is illegal there, same with India

[midnight moon]

Oh is it? Well that’s helpful. Lol

[eternal oak]

Yeah, the government does not allow locals to own weapons

[warm basin]

It's very helpful but theres still gonna be the people that say that "it's just a game" even tho it would get the game banned in said country 😂

[ripe bluff]

Hell the games probably already banned in those countries. lol

[eternal oak]

Exactly, they have said as much. Same logic as not having callers for animals where the caller does not exist in real life.

[warm basin]

Its banned in one country I dont remember what it was

[frail tusk]

saudi arabia iirc

[eternal oak]

There are so many incredible places to hunt in the world, we are not missing anything by not including the ones we’re it is illegal

[warm basin]

But but elephants 🥴😂

[pearl hatch]

imagine an alberta map with muleies, whitetail, moose, grouse, coyotes, pronghorn, wolves, blackbear id pay good money for it lol

[warm basin]

I've wanted a british Columbian map during the winter for a while

[pearl hatch]

thatd be nice they have crazy wolves and elk over there eh

[eternal oak]

I really do not get the logic about wanting elephants, people complain the game is too easy because people just hunt animals during their drink time by water. So we want to put an animal that is as big as a house by water to hunt. Just doesn’t sound like fun to me.

I do wish they would raise the aggression level of the moose, to make it more realistic. They can be quite dangerous in real life.

[pearl hatch]

the moose need darker fur and tan legs in the game

[midnight moon]

Oh....another ugrr reference. There is a famous ugrr town named rising sun, Indiana.

Curious.

[opaque shard]

I really hope its an African map

Dont want mexico

[midnight moon]

So far every clue has pointed me to the ugrr/Ohio valley/Great Lakes area over and over.

And significantly. Not just by chance.

[opaque shard]

I watched Zaggik's clue video and it pointed to africa anf it made sense

Should take a good watch on it

[ripe bluff]

Also consider the ones coming up with the clues. How they came about the idea.

[eternal oak]

I have seen a video that points to Australia and another that points to Mexico and they both made sense.

You can “analyze” they clues to fit just about anything you want them to.

[uneven bloom]

Hence us needing Clue #4, because no one can agree on anything.

[opaque shard]

Weren't we supposed to be given another clue today?

[primal birch]

agreed...even though i was 100% sold on Aus, the mexico one is just as valid and now has me questioning 😛 the gourd bottle for mexico is like a dead ringer

[warm basin]

I'd watch zaggi if he didnt spawn mash

[frail tusk]

how do you spawn mash cotw lmao

[opaque shard]

What? Does he?

[warm basin]

He constantly resets population watch any of his videos and every animal he spots is a new zone

[opaque shard]

Sorry but I do not believe it

[midnight moon]

I actually don’t know what the Ceo of the game thinks with not telling us the map... it would create large massive hype

only the map not animals

[warm basin]

It's been proven along time ago

[opaque shard]

How does one even reset a population in cotw?

[pearl hatch]

easy

[warm basin]

On pc u go into the files and delete the animal pop file

[opaque shard]

What

When was this proven?

I love zaggik maan

[warm basin]

Along time ago why do u think he doesnt grind for anything 😂

[opaque shard]

Be he does grind

[warm basin]

He doesnt 😂

[pearl hatch]

^

[opaque shard]

Yes he does you can just watch some of the thumbnails

[warm basin]

Mate the thumbnails dont mean anything

[opaque shard]

But you can also see it in the video

[warm basin]

Anytime hes trying to get a certain diamond every zone he spots is a new one

[pearl hatch]

he only has like 200 hours on cotw he said it in his video

[tidal trout]

Most of the pc players do pop resets on a consistent basis.

[pearl hatch]

it ruins the imersion for me

[opaque shard]

I don't know what to believe

I did not even know you could do that on pc

[pearl hatch]

he has a video on it

zaggi lol

[opaque shard]

Where

[warm basin]

A ton of people cheat on pc sadly which is why I only trust kills from console 😂

[uneven bloom]

This is also why I refuse to do MP.

[opaque shard]

Mp?

[warm basin]

Multiplayer

[opaque shard]

Oh sorry

But

What about flinter

[warm basin]

Flinter actually grinds

[opaque shard]

He doess?

[supple ledge]

Bunch of people didn’t like me not liking the New Zealand map lol

It’ll always happen

[warm basin]

Flinter has a great one bc he plays legit😂

[opaque shard]

But he doesent pop reset?

[warm basin]

All of the above is another legit youtuber

He doesnt

[supple ledge]

Yes

[warm basin]

He has only ever done it for when he was forced too due to a bug

[opaque shard]

Huh

[pearl hatch]

12 alert

[opaque shard]

Dont know what to say

[warm basin]

There was a bug where animals weren't spawning correctly and u were forced to reset pop to fix it

[tidal trout]

It’s one thing to reset because of an issue but the majority just do it because it makes it easier and they can make more vids for diamonds

[midnight moon]

The final image highlights the bright sunlight of Canada, representing the end of a long, dark journey from slavery to freedom. -excerpt from a photo exhibit that focused on ugrr.

[pearl hatch]

lies its snowing in may rn

[silver fog]

Some people pop reset

Other people use hacks and mods

Others again server hop

[tidal trout]

What are you in Edmonton? Lol

[pearl hatch]

no lol

[silver fog]

So many cheaty and semi-cheaty ways to play the game

[supple ledge]

It’s 85 here

Fahrenheit

[silver fog]

Wrong reply lol

[opaque shard]

God dammit man

[silver fog]

But yeah anyway

[supple ledge]

Welcome to the South

[silver fog]

I see server hopping as worse than pop resets

[supple ledge]

I did not see that lol my bad

[tidal trout]

It’s nice here in the south okanagan

[silver fog]

Primarily because pop resets only affect you and have been encouraged by the devs multiple times to correct spawn issues

[scenic tulip]

is the servers lagging becuase my game keeps crashing

[analog trench]

good to see this channel is still constantly off topic lol

[silver fog]

Always

lol

[warm basin]

Always

[analog trench]

i mean theres not really much else to discuss clue wise at this time

[warm basin]

Yep

And I couldnt let someone support a cheater

[opaque shard]

Thanks for letting me know

But I shouldnt have talked about him and stray from the subject of the channel

[twin marlin]

This chat..
Is a definition of insanity

[grand plaza]

And that's why i only stream multiplayer nowdays for the most part, way less people call you a cheater when you play in multiplayer. Maybe one day the exploits can be fixed in some way

[pearl hatch]

idk how people have fun cheating

[grand plaza]

Yea it makes no sense, the whole fun aspect of the game for me is finding something rare and having the excitement it brings when that grind finally comes to an end

[pearl hatch]

Attention seekers my guess by posting hacked greats ones and stuff

[twin marlin]

Well its easy to cheat when you have maggot ridled pile of shit for brains

[grand plaza]

Probably tbh

[grand plaza]

You wouldnt believe the amount of people that come into stream saying they just killed a melanistic great one lol. I imagine its the same with hacked trophies, all for attention

[pearl hatch]

weh

same with like duping trophys for people and stuff

[eternal oak]

I saw one person the other day that posted a diamond rare, that showed two different harvest screens in two different languages that had two different animal poses and tried to claim it was his

And the same animal

[pearl hatch]

lol

[eternal oak]

Same person post rare diamonds almost every day

[pearl hatch]

i bet he has like 10 hours on cotw

[eternal oak]

I am guessing he is modding his game and also posting other people’s kills

Takes a real special person to cheat at this game, let alone post other people’s kills

[pearl hatch]

my friend join a mp game the other day and every animal was diamond he didnt harvest any only a balcktail before he found out lol

it was on layton also and there was diamond grizzly bears and every species in the game

[small grotto]

remember to move to another room if u dont want to talk about clues

many people forgot about it here and 80% of clue room is spam

[vivid cosmos]

So any reveals so far or until tuesday

[uneven bloom]

not until Tuesday

and getting off-topic is unavoidable, considering that no one can agree on anything

[silver fog]

"Its mexico"
"Its africa"
"Its australia"

Thats... more or less it for now.

[pearl hatch]

the only conection to australia is water buffalo from gourd and layton which both have water lol

[wind ridge]

And Pilgrims
Gourd and Layton

[full crystal]

Mmm. No. But a few do. There is a huge problem with cheating on PC in general. I'd guess 1/4 of the people you run across in MP games are using some kind of cheat hacks.

[opaque shard]

I cant beleive it..

[unreal briar]

Betrayal of the highest order

[spiral dawn]

I didnt even know PC players could do that, is it normal for you guys to just reset your animals

[pearl hatch]

you would only really do it if your animals are bugged

not to keep getting diamonds sesne you pretty much have a diamond on a map when you first get it

[midnight moon]

Yea unfortunately so. Easy to spot those that do

[tacit breach]

The only thing I have reset was the missions since I got stuck in Yukon
but think this discussion would be better suited in general 👀

[uneven bloom]

Some people just don't want to play legit I guess

[midnight moon]

Sad but true :/

[spiral dawn]

Is it pretty common or is it frowned upon

[opaque shard]

I think its both

[full crystal]

Not really that common except for YT/twitchers I think. Some of the people who post diamonds here every day for like months on end are a little sus though

[pearl hatch]

its frowned upon unless its for getting rid of bugs ands stuff like that

[midnight moon]

Pop reset = multiplayer hopping

Only difference you can change the time and you have unlimited servers

[spiral dawn]

that is not a phrase for multiplayer server switching lol

[pearl hatch]

only reason i dont do multiplayer with randoms is causae i didnt earn the trophy i just shot it

[opaque shard]

I was just about to say

[midnight moon]

Ngl

[jade thicket]

checks for clues goes back for beer 🍺

[midnight moon]

People do what they do in the game

The main thing is that it must be fun for the person who does it

[pearl hatch]

slide one over

[midnight moon]

And aslong as you dont share or brag with stuff that aint legit i dont see a problem

[opaque shard]

Pretty unsuccesful without more clues

[spiral dawn]

It ruins the game for others.. spending effort to cull your populations the right way, searching for diamonds, mounting them. Only for cheaters to run rampant with diamond hacks and simply forcing all new animals on your maps.

[midnight moon]

Oh yeah that is shit i agree

I meant like people who reset pop alot in singleplayer

Who cares

Aslong as they give a disclaimer

If the stuff that isnt legit is kept to themselves and they dont show it off or brag about anywhere and dont go into multiplayer ruining others game feel there is no problem in my eyes

[keen warren]

I dont understand why you would pop reset, especially when people do it in the middle of a grind. Do they seriously think that their new ungrinded files are going to have 30 diamonds or something?

[full crystal]

Oh, I understand why they do it. They can just reset, stripmine the few diamonds that are always on a new reserve, and then repeat over and over. I just don't think it's fair play. I don't know if it changes their map though. That would be kind of annoying having to re-find your zones over and over on a map like Layton where they can be literally anywhere

[tidal trout]

They will most likely have it down pat and the zones will be in a similar proximity each time as fas as I understand

[fringe oasis]

Whats happens?

[fast solstice]

Did we get the new clue yet or what

[analog trench]

nope

[jade thicket]

we still 🤿

[midnight moon]

100% agree. Its just a cheap trophy.

[pearl hatch]

with a friend is fine cause i dont shoot his diamonds without permission

[jade thicket]

play enjoy yourself and dont get ate up by what other people do

[midnight moon]

Totally. Same here.

[pearl hatch]

personal preferance its fine if others want to

i just play semi realistic

[midnight moon]

Exactly. We all play how we like. I like the most realistic experience. Just cause I hunt all the time RL and dont like arcade style. Thats just my preference.

[pearl hatch]

yea same i also dont shoot females unless its mandatory for a mission lol

[midnight moon]

Same here mostly. Exception 8s WT and the GO grind cause the zones just turn doe only fast. I keep killing the females and they get replaced by males. May take 3-4 rounds at most but the males replace them. Outside of that I stay away from them too.

[proven solstice]

No post yet?

[uneven bloom]

Nothing until Tuesday

[proven solstice]

Oh dang thought it was today

[midnight moon]

There were rumours something would happen today. Have to wait till next week

[supple ledge]

Don’t trust rumors lol

Irl getting a trophy animal isn’t luck lol

The work isn’t optional

Where tf you hunt

Not everyone is in your case my guy

There is some luck but a lot is work

That’s not just the work my dude

Anyways

[pearl hatch]

agreed we shold prob go to #🥩︴irl-hunting

[vivid cosmos]

True that

Imma delete my messages so they dont annoy people that come for the clues

[midnight moon]

Wouldn't worry. Chat will be dead since we've beat the vague clues that lead everywhere to death over this last week 🤷

[granite pulsar]

i think we're just supposed to look for a tiny piece of hair on layton

shouldn't be that hard

[wind ridge]

I remain convinced that my theory is correct xD

[vivid cosmos]

Whats your theory?

[wind ridge]

Gourd it's a two-way clue, is a Pilgrim Gourd and Water Bottle
In South Layton we can see a lot of history about the pilgrims/settlers, the Layton train tracks are related to the settlers, the CODEX say it starts at Layton Lows and goes east, we can see that the train track goes south...
Sonora Desert is towards the south of EEUU..
Water bottle = Desert
(Arizona or Sonora Mexico)

The arid area in the photo could indicate that this is so
Water gourd = Layton = Fernando.
-All three can be found in America.
https://www.mexicolore.co.uk/aztecs/artefacts/bottle-gourd
-Possibly the new reserve has a spanish name
-Fernando song from Abba it is inspirated by the mexican revolution.

https://www.mexicolore.co.uk/aztecs/artefacts/bottle-gourd
https://www.backyardnature.net/q/b-gourd.htm
https://santiagoways.com/es/calabaza-del-peregrino-camino-de-santiago/
Water Gourd has a lot of history in america and spain

[raven juniper]

Inspired*

Otherwise pretty solid

[blazing moss]

I think the water bottle might be linked to a fortnite map

i have searched around the whole fortnite map looking for clues

cause i was thinking they might be doing a collab

a fortnite would be real good because there’s haps of mountains and there’s even pigs chickens and dinos

[midnight moon]

They released any info yet

[raven juniper]

Not that I can tell

[granite pulsar]

going to be completely honest with you

i cant tell if you're joking

[midnight moon]

Fortnite added fishing

[vivid cosmos]

I got super worried because I couldn't either lol

[stuck basin]

Long story short, Rexio thinks it's Asia

[wind ridge]

I think Mexico is the likely option

but we will have to wait until Tuesday to be sure xD

[blazing moss]

when’s the next clue been released

[mossy atlas]

the railway did not go south or anywhere near Mexico, the codex says it is called the Northern Pacific Railway and a quick google search shows goes East West also went out of operation in 1970. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Pacific_Railway

they haven't said when and if there will be another clue

Thanks @wind ridge you got me looking into the codex for clues

[wind ridge]

I mean it from the game map, this one is not really accurate xD

[midnight moon]

I’m starting to believe it’s Central America. I’m not willing to push Mexico yet, but I will say one of the 2 places I am confident with is Central America.

My first theory and the one I really want to be true is the Ohio valley and the Underground Railroad. So I won’t hammer that again.

But I’m starting to believe all the clues point to the migration of paleoindians from northern Asia to South America.

One major migration paths was down the west coast of the states through Central America into South America.

[warm basin]

Where we at now

[spiral dawn]

fortnite

[midnight moon]

Paleoindians were thought to have brought gourd bottles to the Americas along with dogs as a first domesticated plant. They went right through Layton and Layton talks a lot about native Americans and settlers.

Paleoindians also used what are called el jobo points to hunt with - and Patagonia is credited for the place a style of jobo point was invented by them.

[wind ridge]

https://www.mexicolore.co.uk/aztecs/artefacts/bottle-gourd
bottle gourds were cultivated in today’s Mexico as early as 8,000 BCE

[midnight moon]

If EW is trying to point us to paleoindians it could be anywhere on the migration path - but likely Central America out of proximity to the other maps in the game.

[midnight moon]

Which lines up with the paleoindians migration. They were around 11,000-7,000 bce from Siberia to South America.

I don’t think another clue is coming but if it does and it’s a jobo point or Yukon I’d say it’s the migration theory.

[wind ridge]

Anyway I think you're going too far and too deep

I think the clues indicate more current information

[midnight moon]

I mean who knows. There is no real solid theory yet.

And EW loves their history and artifacts. I’m just trying to find anything that solidly connects all 3 clues.

[spiral dawn]

The palieodonian theory has already been disproven

[midnight moon]

Really? How so?

[spiral dawn]

New research found that the seeds floated from Africa and domesticated in the neotropics

[midnight moon]

Oh well yea - in the scientific world it’s been challenged.

The paleoindians still used gourd bottles. That’s not disputed.

I’m just not sold on gourd bottle means water. Meggles all but said on stream it’s not about water.

[wind ridge]

For Latin Americans the gourds has a specific meaning, it is part of our culture. In ancient times all kinds of utensils were made with these, and in Argentina it was used to make the original Mates

An Argentinian cannot conceive life without his Mate xD

I have a similar one made with a gourd xD

[mossy atlas]

all current clues in one spot for easy access

[raven juniper]

Wouldn't you need a pic of the gourd and Meggles' tweet with Layton pic?

[spiral dawn]

simply check the pinned chat and her recap is there

all he did was slap the fernando pic on it lol

[lusty mural]

Did we get a clue on Friday like everyone was saying

[spiral dawn]

no

[midnight moon]

Blame Doomkan for pushing it

Lol

If not this Friday the next would be obvious, no?

Or they just have it scheduled release for tmr

No reason for them not too

Considering this map has had way more intense clues

[warm basin]

Tuesday

[mossy atlas]

Been a good distraction from the broken game

[stuck basin]

I've actually been trying to figure out when this map will actually hit.. I am thinking next week they unveil what it is, then the following or maybe even the weekend the content creators get early access (or maybe we get beta, they do it for reserves right?).. then possibly Tuesday (06/08) release?... I am guessing 06/08 or 06/15...

[vague locust]

Are the devs seriously just letting the hype die during this weekend?

[earnest remnant]

alright we have to find out

what do a gourd , the pacific northwest and argentina have in common

[vague locust]

Too many things to accurately guess what the map is going to be

[nova thicket]

They probably put the clue on parque Fernando, that way nobody will find it

[mellow ore]

I found a canvas painting in one of the cabins in Hirschfelden yesterday (don't know which, game crashed, but screenshot taken of it) - is this a clue to the new 'thing' or an old clue to something else?

[vague locust]

It was the clue to Cuatro Colimas

[west bramble]

warter

[mellow ore]

Thanks for clearing it up - wonder why it's not removed from the game now that map is out, but then again the 'rocky' gloves are still on Leyton so I guess they're just left there...

[languid wedge]

I would be very happy with muskox arctic fox species of ptarmigan reindeer arctic wolf and polar bear it would be absolutely amazing

Good Mornin

[mossy atlas]

any theories that make sense yet?

[midnight moon]

yep

[midnight moon]

Well, we have many theories

But we don’t know AAAAnything

TK needs to help us

[warm basin]

All we can do is wait

[glossy turret]

These things are scheduled by the team for set dates and they stick to those dates when putting out clues or information people saying give us clues won’t make them do anything.

[gentle shale]

so africa 2.0 is off the table now?

all point to southern us/mexico now?

[warm basin]

For the most part

[lusty mural]

Why is Africa off the table

[quick grail]

Can't find a link between it and parque Fernando

So its hard to die into the clues

[lusty mural]

Ok thanks

[torpid sorrel]

Thats sus

[lime socket]

Nm....closed the game, relaunched and it wasn't there anymore. Must have been a bug (deleted original message- it was about something I spotted on Layton map during a game, it disappeared after relaunching cotw so guessing it was a glitch)

[latent ether]

Have we figured out any more clues

[supple ledge]

If it isn’t Africa they missed an opportunity

[uneven bloom]

Nothing new until Tuesday.

[spiral dawn]

Its not people are just being picky intentionally choosing only things that match their theory lol

With the fernando song they claim proves it, you could also easily say it’s the fernando island in Africa, it has water all around it

[midnight moon]

Can someone describe to me real, genuine, non copied/reskinned animals that would be on a Mexico map?

And not some random subspecies of fox that lives there-I mean big game people want to hunt

[spiral dawn]

the Jaguar is the only cool animal to come with a mexico map and it’d just be on the body of our existing big cats

[midnight moon]

So there’s nothing.

[warm basin]

Nope

[midnight moon]

Well I’m excited

[spiral dawn]

some smaller creatures maybe like a Coati

But not really anything big

[warm basin]

There doing it just to make the whitetail people happy

[midnight moon]

What’s your thoughts on a Mexico map?

[warm basin]

I'd perfer africa but hunting mule deer and whitetail at a pond in the desert is growing on me

[midnight moon]

That makes one of us

[uneven bloom]

Jaguars unfortunately aren't likely since it's illegal to hunt them everywhere

[midnight moon]

I’d prefer Africa a lot

[uneven bloom]

despite being near-threatened they're still covered under the ESA

[spiral dawn]

Ok so nothing cool from mexico at all

got it

[warm basin]

If anything africa could be the next map in december

[spiral dawn]

Africa pls

[midnight moon]

It will be

It has to

There is NO other logical map

Besides AUS

[warm basin]

Either that or the next map is Australia

[midnight moon]

Which sucks

Fuck Aus me and my homies hate Aus

[warm basin]

^

[midnight moon]

Australia will be before africa 2.0 just a guess

[fringe oasis]

Forget it, Jaguar are highly protected in all their range map. From Mexico to Argentina.

[midnight moon]

Exactly

[warm basin]

Mexico is filled with repeats and it excites me more the Australia 😂

[fringe oasis]

Mexico no offer nothing new. Just the Pecari. The rest is te same that we already have

[stuck basin]

What kind of cool animals is in Mexico to hunt?

[midnight moon]

Well boys, get ready for more trashy mule deer, shitty broken whitetail, shitty desert bighorns when they can’t even get the Rocky ones right, and a whole lot of people saying the map is good

[midnight moon]

NOTHING that isn’t a repeat. Nothing

[stuck basin]

God

[midnight moon]

You forgot the bugs coming

Even javelinas are a pig copy from

[warm basin]

Whitetail are gonna be working right besides there bad antlers and mule deer truracs are good wym

[midnight moon]

I want it shoot you in the head for that last statement

No offense

[stuck basin]

I'm still on the Africa 2.0 hype

[midnight moon]

Mule deer racks are SO bad

One of them looks good

One

Rack

The rest are so bad

[warm basin]

Only bad racks is the 3s and the stick 5

[midnight moon]

Granted MAJOR improvements from legacy racks

[spiral dawn]

I have no quarrel with buggy animals, COTW in general is just bugged. I don’t really see it as an argument over any other map

Africa would be buggy too

[fringe oasis]

Technically are quite different. Much smaller and belong to a diferent family (Tayasuidae). If they want to make it good, they need to make the model from 0

[midnight moon]

So you’ve excepted shot quality

[spiral dawn]

Yeah

Hopefully Ultimate Hunting is better

They look very promising

[midnight moon]

Model will be new, but behavior and general way of hunting and somewhat looks is the same, aka re skin

@ModsDelete this channel 😔 it doesn’t make sense

[midnight moon]

That’s gonna be it’s downfall- don’t hold it to a god like standard that will sweep cotw off it’s feet and UH becomes the new thing

all of us are just dead

[spiral dawn]

Even if it has bugs so does COTW lol

cotw needs to stop acting like the god

Itll be their downfall

[warm basin]

Well it is that's the problem 😂

[midnight moon]

No it won’t, because they have a monopoly

[warm basin]

Theres nothing better

[fringe oasis]

In real life the pecari makes much larger groups than hogs. But will see. I think you are right

[stone dew]

How about you get back to the subject of this channel

[midnight moon]

Genetically different and such, but overall re skin yea your right

[spiral dawn]

No fun

I need an off topic chat

[warm basin]

Tbf the hunting of all species of pig in the world are similar

[stone dew]

#🦝︴off-topic @spiral dawn

[spiral dawn]

I thought general was things related to cotw as well

[midnight moon]

Practice makes perfect

[midnight moon]

That’s #731056417808711695

Or PC version

[stone dew]

#🦝︴off-topic is off topic

[spiral dawn]

Mk

[stuck basin]

As far as clues go, someone last Friday posted the old Survey from EW on which location we would want a reserve next.. need to go back and find it, but I don't think Mexico was even there

[midnight moon]

I don’t remember it

[warm basin]

The desert environment was tho

[fringe oasis]

I hope is Africa

[spiral dawn]

Duck map

[midnight moon]

Who tf wants a desert environment in a game where render is 400m

[midnight moon]

Wait i’ll send it

Ruins the point of hunting in a desert

[spiral dawn]

Gourd water, layton water and ducks, parque fernando water and ducks

[midnight moon]

here u go

[spiral dawn]

it is duck map

[midnight moon]

Mexico???

Who would choose Mexico??

[spiral dawn]

insane in the head people

[midnight moon]

Did they not give it 3 seconds of thought

bzhub would

🙂

Lmao

[warm basin]

Tbf we havnt even seen the map yet they could have hit it out the park

[midnight moon]

I just don’t get how people would like that map.

[midnight moon]

Possibly

But unlikely

They will never hit it out of the park because cotw is an arcade game and it will never be realistic

I think Africa would be the biggest Hype bringer

[warm basin]

If I had to guess its gonna be hilly to try and work around the render distance

[midnight moon]

lol

Yeah idk

[warm basin]

They did it with srp

But even then it didnt really work

[midnight moon]

Srp man

Wasted potential

Most hyped map

And dropped to the floor

[warm basin]

It's the best map wym😂

[uneven bloom]

see this is where difference of opinion comes in

[spiral dawn]

I like SRP but I just like mountain goats and bighorn

[midnight moon]

I’m very picky as someone who’s literally at a cabin in the mountains of SRP

Irl

[warm basin]

Majority of people put srp as there favorite between vurhunga

[midnight moon]

But it just doesn’t flow well, between biomes

And the bighorn and mountain goat and elk and pumas and bears and deer and Turkey all at the same spot

they messed up the terrain...

Bighorn and puma should be together in there own region, mule deer in the plains with antelope up to elk, which are with black bear in deep timber, then mountain goats on top

[midnight moon]

Yeah that’s what I mean

Also the need to re do mountain goats and chamios

And i really don’t know why there is no WT

in srp

[midnight moon]

Makes no practical sense, they’re not exactly right there

As an exact location, no whitetail

they still could’ve add them i mean No one would mind that

[full crystal]

Depends where you're at in southern CO. If you're on the east side of the Sangres, there's tons of WT

[midnight moon]

Yeah that’s true

[midnight moon]

It’s western Colorado

[full crystal]

Missed opportunity for coyotes also

[spring minnow]

reads chat, off topic. Tell get back on topic
Come back 10min later. Chat off topic. Parachute off the rails with the chat

[midnight moon]

lol

but hey black bears

🙂

instead of WT

[uneven bloom]

this chat's going to stay off topic until we get a solid clue

everyone's just arguing in circles

[warm basin]

True😂

[midnight moon]

The could logistically add whitetail, grizzly, moose, and coyote

It would make sense

[uneven bloom]

and frankly I'm kind of sick of the arguing at this point

[spring minnow]

Should rename it circle chat

[midnight moon]

Lol

At this point it’s “cotw critiques”

[spiral dawn]

I like that

[midnight moon]

Just comparing what we have to possible maps

Wait wait... just imagine we’re getting mexico without WT... i know it wouldn’t be the case but just imagine

I.e SRP had problems, so a Mexico map could very much reflect those problems

[midnight moon]

I’d love it

New favorite map

Just to piss people off

😂

[warm basin]

I cant wait till people get the map and see that they still dont get a free GO and start complaining for another wt map

[spiral dawn]

Imagine mexico without sheep

[midnight moon]

I’d like that a lot

[uneven bloom]

I find it hilarious how I'm in a server because I really like this one game, but usually I just see people shitting on it.
Yes, it has issues. But at least the devs are actively working on said issues.

[spiral dawn]

sheep is a staple in mexico

it wouldnt make sense

[midnight moon]

No sheep thanks

[spring minnow]

I'll be happy with any map as long as it's not pure plains. Not a fan of easy prey that you can kill in masses from far away and no cover for bow hunters.

[midnight moon]

Rocky Mountain sheep look SO bad

[midnight moon]

Yeah and with 400m render your not getting the irl vibe of hunting in the desert

[midnight moon]

What kind of sheep

[warm basin]

I'm with u but people like to complain

[midnight moon]

Desert big horn

TK mentioned a few weeks ago they wouldn’t like more sheep in the game

Thank god

[latent ether]

With the guns and animals it’s pretty realistic

[warm basin]

Tk says alot of things

[midnight moon]

Not. At. All.

[spiral dawn]

I dont think theyd do mexico without desert bighorn

its too big of a thing

[latent ether]

Yeah

[midnight moon]

They’d look so bad

I mean Rocky sheep are the worst racks in the game

That is a fact

They are so bad

They make me want to throw up

[warm basin]

There alright they arnt great but they are better than what they were

[exotic palm]

Tbh I think they look cool, but they are definitely not realistic at all and is kinda bad.

They don't curl that way irl

[midnight moon]

They don’t look cool they look like a 3 year old drew them

It’s weird because Mouflon racks are amazing

Irl comparison and its really good

[nocturne moon]

Watch the big horn racks be a teaser for dall sheep

SICK I LIED

[exotic palm]

I wanna know who is looking at these models and going 'this. This is good."

[warm basin]

There Europeans u ever notice how all europeon species look good compared to the NA counterparts 😂

They dont have experience

[exotic palm]

All they gotta do is look up pictures of what they look like.

[midnight moon]

The best part is the red deer, the by are based off of NZ farm bred and raised pets

[latent ether]

Just what I was about to say

[exotic palm]

And they did good antler models for wt on classic but not on cotw

So that makes no sense

[midnight moon]

They don’t

There is no possible way they looked at the bighorn horns and said “this doesn’t suck ass”

[warm basin]

The classic whitetail are overrated imo neither are good

[exotic palm]

But they are still very hard to hunt their area of hunting is huge there it's not like they are farm raised

[exotic palm]

The small racks are kinda bad but the big racks are great

[midnight moon]

The level 9 racks are like 700 SCI those are not in the wild

World record is 400 SCI

All natural

[spiral dawn]

They advertise classic as the most realistic experience, that tells you all you need to know about COTW

Its not bad but you guys expect too much

[exotic palm]

Not sure what sci stands for because I'm not good with abbreviations, but alot of the scores in cotw are not meant to be paired with real life

Example whitetail deer

[warm basin]

Love or hate Cotw the need zones system is realistic

[midnight moon]

Just be quiet your making a fool of yourself

[nocturne moon]

This should in stead of being called #🦡︴cotw-scotland it should be literally anything else

[midnight moon]

Some what, animals will only rest during the day, eat and sleep at morning/dusk

Unless it’s peak rut

Or very cold

[exotic palm]

Not really vivid because they always pick the same exact spots at the same times. Classic has need zones too they feed rest and drink but you don't see it often

[warm basin]

Indeed

[exotic palm]

If you ever see a bobcat jumping around it's feeding

[warm basin]

Classic is unrealistic in the sense that there always different animals

[exotic palm]

Wdym?

[nocturne moon]

Or game comparison may I add

[midnight moon]

Still don’t get why cotw can’t be realistic. It’s not such a bad thing. Also when you defend any criticism off cotw with “it’s not realistic”

[exotic palm]

I wish it was like classic

[warm basin]

If u hunt an area for a while u will see the same animals irl but in classic it's like ur hunting a new area

[midnight moon]

?

Animals in classic move way more

[exotic palm]

Not true because whitetail for example you will find them in the same areas

[uneven bloom]

from what I've heard I'd probably hate Classic

[warm basin]

That's not what I'm saying

[uneven bloom]

so I'd rather the games keep their differences

[midnight moon]

It’s realistic and requires skill. If you don’t like that don’t play it

[warm basin]

I'm saying u will see the same animals irl when in classic it's always new animals 😂

[exotic palm]

Well that's so you don't have to shoot tons and tons and tons of animals

You can just hop on look for a big buck if you don't see one after a while go hunt somewhere else or restart

[spiral dawn]

I dont think they have the engine capabilities to increase realism on cotw is all, the game doesn’t function correctly as it is. So that’s why they choose options that people are complaining about (animal behavior)

[midnight moon]

The rng of a big buck spawning is not that high

[exotic palm]

I've shot tons of them

[warm basin]

Which leads to spawn mashing

[midnight moon]

lol what the engine can handle animals staying in there own biomes “segregation” as we say

[midnight moon]

How many 200s?

[exotic palm]

😂😂 it doesn't have to be 200 score to be a big buck

Jesus that's like asking how many great ones have I killed

[midnight moon]

What’s your PB wt?

[exotic palm]

My biggest is 192

[midnight moon]

I won’t say mine because it’s very low

[spring minnow]

Topic people. Topic. Jeez

[exotic palm]

Hey the clues are already out and talked about tho 😂

[midnight moon]

Sorry

[warm basin]

Ormys about to start throwing hands

[compact vault]

What about the topic is not undiscussed?

[spiral dawn]

its a duck map

[exotic palm]

Is there anything that hasn't been discussed about the clues?

[midnight moon]

What good a Mexico map could bring to cotw

Animal wise

[spiral dawn]

new retriever dog coming out with duck map / duck overhaul

😳

[midnight moon]

Pheasants!!

[nocturne moon]

Dope

[compact vault]

Discussed 3 or 4 times

[midnight moon]

Well I’ve never seen a good answer

[nocturne moon]

Ask DD33 he will tell you all you need lol

[midnight moon]

Oh yeah my apologies, make the map because of 1 bird

[warm basin]

Uve never seen an answer u agree with it doesnt mean it isnt good

[compact vault]

That is what each discussion ends up deciding

[midnight moon]

I mean factual non repeat legit animals, besides small birds and such

Id love to see pheasants🤷

No offense Tdogg, I’d like pheasants, it’s just not enough to make a map imo

[latent ether]

You guys have gone from finding the clues to arguing

[midnight moon]

But just scanning at the roster Mexico has, it just doesn’t make sense

Oh for sure. But would be at least 1 new animal. I'm sure theyd add something else new.

[midnight moon]

They would, but I don’t know what it is that wouldn’t be re skin/ straight copy

[warm basin]

Javelina, coues deer and pheasants

[midnight moon]

Which makes me hope of Africa

[nocturne moon]

I just want another map with whitetail pronghorn Muley and possible Texas hogs and javelina

[midnight moon]

Whatever map it is I'm sure most animals would be reused and a xouple new. Thats usually what happens

[midnight moon]

Re skin pigs, tiny whitetail, and okay pheasants

[warm basin]

Well then god reskinned pigs

[nocturne moon]

Javelina wouldn’t be re skin

[midnight moon]

Yes it would

Re skin warthog or boar or pig

They’re all the exact same

[midnight moon]

Obviously not exactly

[warm basin]

There the same irl too what's ur point

[midnight moon]

But exact type of animal

[latent ether]

Smol pig

[midnight moon]

It’s just re skinned animals on a Mexico map

[nocturne moon]

Actually nvm

[midnight moon]

Coues deer I could do

[nocturne moon]

Yeah that would be cool

[warm basin]

Thats like saying mule deer is a reskinned whitetail

[midnight moon]

Not at all

A boar/warthog/pig is much closer to a javelina then a mile deer is to a whitetail

[latent ether]

*mule

[nocturne moon]

Lol

Honestly who actually care if just a re skin our not isn’t it about the experience of the hunt or does no one care abt that

[midnight moon]

I say re skin because they don’t have anything unique, it’s the same type of animal that will look the same and act the same

[latent ether]

You know what, yeah mile deer, any species of deer, but a mile long from head to butt

[fringe oasis]

No friend. Biologically the mule and whitetail are closed related
Both species belongs to cervidae family

[midnight moon]

Thank GOD were not talking about biologically

I mean physically

[latent ether]

Isn’t a mule deer just a hybrid between a blacktail and whitetail

[nocturne moon]

No I don’t believe so but I might be wrong

[midnight moon]

If the javelina had some majik wings that separated it from other pig species? Great

But it’s doesn’t

It will look the same and act the same, bringing us our 6th pig map

Re-skin

[stuck basin]

so, I found the survey picture that Doom posted a few days ago

[warm basin]

Mate if ur to the point that ur complaining about how pigs are reskins of each other irl then u need to get off for the day😂

[uneven bloom]

Completely different species

from the whitetail anyways

[midnight moon]

No youre right. There not. I wish the mulies hoped when they run like IRL. They dont run like they do in game

[uneven bloom]

blacktail are actually a subspecies of mule deer

[latent ether]

This is what google told me “the blacktail and mule deer are the same species, but the mulie is a subspecies of the blacktail, and they are both close cousins to the whitetail. ... An essential divide between the whitetail and blacktail species is their different choices of terrain”

[nocturne moon]

Yeah longer strides not high jumps

[uneven bloom]

that article has it backwards. Blacktail are the subspecies

[latent ether]

Ahh Ok

[nocturne moon]

Yeah

[midnight moon]

Sub species is

The same

Like siblings

Sub species

[nocturne moon]

The mule deer is the biggest out of whitetail and black tail body and rack size

[midnight moon]

Very close common ancestor

Probably only a few thousand years back

Less even

[nocturne moon]

Brb guys

[midnight moon]

But they split

[fringe oasis]

The Black tailed is a sub-specie of mule deer
Same difference between the Rocky Mountain Elk and the Roosevelt

[midnight moon]

They are equal lmao

[latent ether]

I don’t care where the map is, I just want new species

[midnight moon]

The are subspecies like siblings, not parent to child

[fringe oasis]

Very very close. Same specie

[midnight moon]

Exactly

They are sub species

[fringe oasis]

But is very common in this game. They do this with many animals : All the Ibex, The brown bear and the grizzly, the elks, the mule and blacktail, the reindeer and caribou

[midnight moon]

All the ibex lmao

Ibex is a general term for goat

[fringe oasis]

Technically that animales are the same specie. Geographical subespecies, nothing more

[midnight moon]

It’s goats in Europe is Ibex

[fringe oasis]

Absolutely wrong.

[midnight moon]

Oh really

[fringe oasis]

Yes, Goats are a branch for bovidae family. Closer related to antelopes. Not all goats are ibex.

[midnight moon]

Do you know how many ibex there are

[pale rampart]

Ibex is a generalised term for any wild goat, characterised by long curving horns.

[pale rampart]

Not all goats are ibex, but all ibex are goats.

[midnight moon]

Yes I was right

An ibex is a wild goat (not feral) that’s found in Asia and Europe

Lots of types of ibex

[fringe oasis]

7

[midnight moon]

Which are goats

[midnight moon]

Cool

I think where all on the same page here

[fringe oasis]

seven species of ibex, according to the Lynx Mammals Of The World handbook

[pale rampart]

8 if you count the Nubian ibex.

[midnight moon]

Anyway I gtg

[spiral dawn]

sheep

[pale rampart]

And the split b/w west and east Caucasian.

[fringe oasis]

Let me upload a picture

I don't know how LOL. I have the picture

There is the Markor, and all the species and subespecies of ibex

[fringe oasis]

Exactly

[jade wyvern]

No. It’s it’s own species

[jade wyvern]

They are completely different and are very different in body size as well. They aren’t even pigs

[lime gorge]

Since there has been a small bit of talk about a primarily duck map how do you guys feel about them only having one duck call for all ducks? Would you rather it be like that or more like classic with a few different ones?

[vague locust]

Definitely few different ones

[lime gorge]

Yeah, I know COTW is supposed to be an easier experience however I feel like they could tone that part up a bit, I can see where they came from since they had a slow start to ducks but if they pick it up I hope they switch it

[wicked fjord]

I’m not caught up. Have we found anything to conform where the new map is at?

[lime socket]

No sadly not 😕

[wicked fjord]

I feel like everybody is just saying what they want

Which I really want a map with whitetail but most people don’t want a North America map tho

[lime socket]

Same. Theres so little to go on though, and the clues are so vague you can pick almost anywhere in the world and fashion an argument for it

The majority are assuming gourd = water and because LL and PF both feature water they conclude water is the overriding factor for the new map. The gourd may not even represent water in the first place

[wicked fjord]

Another perk I just realized is that the new map will probably come with a new weapon so that will be cool at least no matter what the map is

[lime socket]

True. That's always a welcome gift

[wicked fjord]

I want a glock

🔫

But prolly not

[supple ledge]

.308 is the only right answer

[lime socket]

IF we ever did it would be renamed to some vaguely German sounding name for trademark purposes

[wicked fjord]

Yeah

[lime socket]

Hey Mulletman 👋 yes - with you on that with the .308

[wicked fjord]

There should be a camp 243 the one that comes with the game is ugly

Camo

[lime socket]

Yeah the black plastic on it kinda ruins it imo

[wicked fjord]

There should also be weapon slots

[lime socket]

I wish the devs would give us another clue. The hype has built and is now stagnating. We should be drip fed hints and clues at a constant rate rather than having a large gap like this, assuming that we're not going to hear anything until Tuesday's live stream. As a few people said earlier, we've had enough time to discuss the clues and give our opinions on them. There's little left we can do now.

[jade thicket]

tbh its been mental in here

[lime socket]

Mexico/Texas/Arizona still seems a favourite contender. Australia and Africa 2.0 are close behind. Personally I still keep thinking it could be Asia as that was mentioned a lot more in the earlier days of this clue hunt, and Meggles did say about a third guessed right during Tuesday's live stream. Asia was mentioned more back then compared to now so it could have made up a third of guesses.

[lime socket]

😂 that's one way to describe it...

[lime socket]

Hmmm theres a gourd shaped oasis in China in the Taklimakan desert, its name in Chinese, Huludao, even means "gourd island "......

Hi TK 👋 I see ya hiding there 😑

[midnight moon]

The 2 things that don’t make me think it’s NA desert is 1) everyone said it was that at the beginning, but meggles said only 1/3 had it right (not taking this as 100% correct) and the Africa 2.0 crowd didn’t come around until later 2) there is no animals there that aren’t re skins besides coues deer (which are whitetail) pheasants (actually would be nice) and JaVeLiNa (even though they will behave and look just like the 5 other maps with pigs)

[lime socket]

Tk is back lol 😋 Aaaaand he's gone again. I won't point him out next time - mention his name and he goes lol

[midnight moon]

Can someone throw a hard stretched specualation in here

i want the chat to be alive again

[vast jolt]

new map = england

there is badgers pigeons and fox

[lethal dove]

I just searched Layton Fernando to see what comes up, guess what came up , Fernando.C. Layton , American Lawyer from Ohio

[midnight moon]

I think the map is going to be in Russia

because...

[copper marsh]

Russia would be disapointing if you ask me.

[opaque shard]

I hope the map lives up to the hype whether its asia, africa or whatever. I just pray that it wont be something as lackluster as NZ

And we already have a russian map

That does not get that much love anf support from EW

[twin marlin]

++++

Such a disgrace

[opaque shard]

Huh?

[copper marsh]

A Desert map would be cool tho, or just england.

Desert map or england.

please

[opaque shard]

England just gives me something as boring as NZ

[copper marsh]

True but it might be cool??? : )

[twin marlin]

No

[copper marsh]

k

[opaque shard]

And i would much rather have an asian or an african map than a desert one

[vast jolt]

ngl theres nothing to hunt really in England

or at least not anything interesting

[copper marsh]

Yes but its.

England.

[opaque shard]

We have many of the things in england

And what about england?

[copper marsh]

England.

[opaque shard]

You british or what?

[copper marsh]

No.

[opaque shard]

So you just have a fetish for england

[vast jolt]

Im british and as cool as it would be to see my own country in game it wouldnt be very interesting

[copper marsh]

Idk i just thought it would be cool with england-

Idk why-

[opaque shard]

Okay I'm just.. just gonna leave now..

[midnight moon]

England map with a desert

[midnight moon]

If you don’t even know why then why do you want an England map lel

i would love it

who else too ?

Sure

Send it

Or an african map with frozen lakes and a lot of snow

From now on I will only advocate for a England desert map

Yeah

England desert map with camels and dolphins

🥵

[fresh path]

Phoenix wright from ace attorney talks about Lake gourd

🤷‍♂️

[midnight moon]

😛

[midnight moon]

Oh yASSSS I’d love that

[lime socket]

I'm English. Would be interesting to see an English/British reserve in COTW. With Boris Johnson and Theresa May as new playable characters of course....and new urban camo for hunting those camels and dolphins in their natural habitats, UK council estates

[fringe oasis]

Buts is gonna be more than the same. Red Fox, Red Deer, Fallow.
Beautiful country, beautiful places but doesn't give nothing new to the game.

[glacial flame]

Muntjac, wood pigeon, grey squirrel etc could be new,

Mainly small stuff

Muntjac would basically just be musk deer with little antlers tho so people that aren’t super deer obsessed like me probs wouldn’t care for them

[fringe oasis]

I think the game needs a little bit of fresh air. New places, new species
Himalayan, Africa, Artic Tundra, Australia arid zones, ecuatorian jungle.

All the maps are starting to feel the same. Mountains, coniferous forest, deers.

[fringe oasis]

Yes I know that ones. I seen when I did the tiger safari in India. I didn't know was introduced in england.

[fringe oasis]

They adapt good to the cold weather?

[glacial flame]

Oh cool! Sounds like a cool experience

Oh yes very well

They’re doing extremely well as a species here

[fringe oasis]

Because they live in very dry forest, but very hot at daytime. Small, with the first part of the antelers covered in skin. In india they called Barking Deer

[glacial flame]

Yes that’s the ones! Yeah they’re definitely very good at adapting

[fringe oasis]

Really, I didn't know was introduced in UK

[glacial flame]

Yeah! I have them living near me in England- I love photographing them

Specifically we have the Reeves Muntjac type 😊

[fringe oasis]

O really? I can't in India. I tried many times but are increible shy. The vanish in the bush very quicly

[glacial flame]

Oh yes they’re tricky to photograph, I call them using the buttalo used for roe in COTW

[midnight moon]

But have you considered: desert England with dolphins?

[stuck crown]

I’m just waiting for the Reveal of the Map we’re getting.

[midnight moon]

Yeah

[stuck crown]

@midnight moon an England map is just hirshfelden without European Bison and fallow deer.

[midnight mist]

true

was just about to say that lol

[midnight moon]

But desert??

[stuck crown]

England has no desert or wild camels.

[midnight moon]

And I think there are some camels in the shires of northern England- that would I be very fun to hunt

[midnight mist]

bruh

[midnight moon]

Are you sure?

I’m pretty sure they have a temperate desert

And wild camels

Feral

They’re not native

I think I have seen some videos on camel hunting in England

It’s a private reserve

Camels are actually high quality game in the Middle East

[midnight mist]

does mexico have any exotic game reserves?

because then we could get mexico and africa in the same place, best of both worlds

[stuck crown]

A desert is an ecosystem where there is very little precipitation which and are usually Have extreme heat and cold temperatures Such as polar deserts in the polar regions or Rainshadow deserts in North America where mountains ranges such as the Rocky Mountains and Sierra Nevada prevent moisture from the pacific reaching those areas and are extremely Hot Or Cold Year round.

England has only one desert region, The Dungeness a costal desert located in Kent, England in the south east.

@midnight mist no not really and the game ranches I’ve found that have exotic species in Mexico are extremely few as In less than six, short answer The Vast Majority Of Mexico’s big game hunting located in In Baja California Peninsula, Sonoran and Chihuahuan deserts where there are pretty much no exotic game species.

And if said Mexico map does contain exotic species, it’s would probably be located on US Mexico Border in Texas/Mexico.

[dim rover]

Is black brown a rare fur type on springboks?

[fringe oasis]

Yes, is not common

[midnight moon]

1. Wrong chat
2. No

[vast jolt]

I saw a deer about 30 seconds from my house a few months back. Must be a sign of the upcoming England desert map 😱😱😱

[spice trellis]

Totally not just a deer

[wicked fjord]

👍🏼for North America map. ✌🏻for Africa 2.0. 🤟🏼for Asia

[midnight mist]

this what we want or what we think it's gonna be

[exotic palm]

can yall quit scamming people into thinking its out? its obviously not we arent hearing anything til tuesday

[vivid cosmos]

Dang so this is how it feels

[stone dew]

@pure ice @wicked fjord STOP. First warning for you Hunter and you Tino have earned your second. See you in 3 days Tino

[fringe oasis]

Ok. We have. At first the gord and layton. Meggles ask what this two have in common. Water
Both are in America is not a clue, The gourd is used around the world . Is not something linked exclusivly with America. I think the answer is water
After that, she talks about dive deep, water again.

The first in my opinion the first real clue is Water. Means is a place with a lot of it. Lakes, swamps, rainforest
After the stream the picture of Fernando. Fernando means many things. Spanish, South America or South Hemisphere
Rainforest or swamps in southern Hemisphere?
Pantanal in Brazil
Ibera in Argentina (They don't going to repeat Argentina)
Llanos Venezolanos
Okavango Delta in Botswana
Lake Malawi in Malawi
The rainforest of Southeast Asia
Rainforest in Queensland Northern Australia.

[raven juniper]

Well thought out, altho the link to Fernando from the other two is significantly weaker

[fringe oasis]

Yes it is, but maybe is just small signal to show us the path

They picture show the sun, and a arid landscape. Water and arid? Maybe was accidentally,
But have only one place where you have both. Okavango Delta in Botswana. The Kavango River die in the Kalahari surrounded by arid ecosystem. Is like a Garden Of Eden in the middle of the Kalahari.

But I don't think they goes so intrincate

In pantanal is not allowed to hunt
Ibera too, is a new national park in Corrientes provinces. A lot of effort for rewild the ecosystem there. Hunting is completely ilegal.
LLanos Venezolanos I don't know, but after cayman, capybaras, pecari and White Tail deer, I didnt find too much (Jaguars are highly protected)
Okavango and Chobe the hunting is permited. The parks are financially linked to the hunting business.
In Indonesia hunting is banned two. Ilegal, because the animals living there are highly endangered. Maybe a fictional island with banteng, beaderd hog, Babiruouse, Water Buffalo, Rusa Deer, Sambar, Wildboar, . (Tigers, Komodo Dragons are protected). Also Sonda Islands have the richest coral reef in the world. (Dive deeper).

[wind ridge]

Dive deeper in the clues*