🦡︴cotw-scotland

[pine lily]

and frequently exceed 500

[austere wigeon]

Actually you have a point, New Zealand stags are that big cause crossbreeding

[pine lily]

as it currently stands iirc theyre based off an average between continental european stags of all populations

[dense jackal]

Also I would like to see a difference between natural red deer on maps like Hersh, Cautro and unnatural racks on New Zealand Argentina and Australia

[midnight moon]

They only crossbreed near the wapiti range, still get big stags elsewhere

[austere wigeon]

Really? Why do stags get that big?

[midnight moon]

Game farms mainly. Grow them up and foreigners cime and shoot them

But also in the wild their numbers are high so more chance of getting big stags

Than in their native ranges

[austere wigeon]

Oh neat

[midnight moon]

The hard to access areas can have some massive stags

[vivid cosmos]

after watching the images in Steam it kind of reminds me of A mixture of Te Awaroa and Parque Fernando the open spaces and purple flowers remind me of Parque

[delicate peak]

actually glad someone sees the te awaroa in it

[vivid cosmos]

also the Hills are very reminiscing of Parque

i see much more parque in it now that I'm saying it

[dense jackal]

Need some goats species on parque

[weak smelt]

GOAT? Yeah that's axis deer

[sly gulch]

And Pere David's Deer

[dense jackal]

Mouflon or some new species

[sly gulch]

A couple new species of waterfowl could be cool too (White-Cheeked Pintail, Black-Headed Duck, Andean Goose, etc.)

[weak smelt]

Tf is that

From the trailer?

[valid sage]

Squirrel

[delicate peak]

tree rat

[valid sage]

No

[ember sparrow]

So quick question what is y’all’s opinion on the new 12ga semi auto coming to the game

[delicate peak]

peak

[dense jackal]

Definitely some much needed waterfowl for parque because Argentina is like the capital of waterfowl hunting

[sly gulch]

i'm pretty excited for it. I love the Cacciatore so I have pretty high hopes for it

[weak smelt]

Probably gonna be the new best shotgun if it's 5 rounds or more

[sly gulch]

Also, what do yall think the three remaining new species are. We know one of them is another mustelid...

[delicate peak]

how come ive never heard that before

[orchid linden]

Think we'll see any form of driven hunting in this update?

[valid sage]

I might have just domed a Whitetail in the head with slugs

[dense jackal]

Idk but you can hunt all kinds of waterfowl in Argentina because most fly south in the winter they also have good dove hunting

[delicate peak]

probably, depending on what gets added and whats in the different areas of the maps

[weak smelt]

Where they say there's 3

[orchid linden]

I really hope we do. Such a big part of Scotland's hunting tradition.

[delicate peak]

probably would be a good small map

[sly gulch]

They confirmed 5 new species. Two have been revealed already

[delicate peak]

theres badger, mink and pine martin

[valid sage]

Do y'all think Badgers and minks are going to be class one or two?

[valid sage]

Confirmed???

[dense jackal]

Badger 2 and Martin 1

[weak smelt]

And where did they say there's another mustelid

[sly gulch]

Badgers will prolly be class 2, Mink could go either way

[delicate peak]

martin isnt confirmed but they said theres another mustilid and thats all it could be

[sly gulch]

Vivi confirmed it earlier

[pine lily]

presumed marten; only real option for the 3rd

[delicate peak]

otter is confirmed not to be on the map

[vestal anvil]

Do you know when the new map is coming out I just started discord

[valid sage]

December 13

[reef dragon]

I really hope for red grouse and pink-footed geese

[delicate peak]

dec 9th

[sly gulch]

Yeah I think it'll be Pine Marten or Stoat

[valid sage]

Or 9

Uhh

I don't remember

[finite wagon]

Pine marten isnt confirmed, but #🦡︴cotw-scotland message there is another possible one. It could be marten, it could be otter

[sly gulch]

dec 9

[delicate peak]

realistically not stoat

[dense jackal]

Any ideas of the new great one

[sly gulch]

Hope it's a Wild Boar or Roe Deer

[sly gulch]

They confirmed that Eurasian otters won't be on the map

[valid sage]

There were people earlier saying, "there's no Badgers on the map!"

[delicate peak]

maybe goat

[dense jackal]

The boar look good now

[sly gulch]

Yeah that'd be cool too

[delicate peak]

otter could have done if we are being honest

[dense jackal]

Still need a class 1-9 great one though

[sly gulch]

I think the two non-mustelid new species will be Red Grouse and some sort of duck/goose

Or maybe Muntjac

[river vapor]

POV:people saying there are no badgers:

[grand jetty]

Scotland leak!!!!!!

[weak smelt]

Northern shoveler🙏

[orchid linden]

Hopefully Red Grouse and a Partridge or Woodcock.

[river vapor]

uh- well the discord prevented me from sending the gif

basically i was sending a far cry badger attack animation gif

[dense jackal]

There any squirrel in Scotland

[sly gulch]

I'd LOVE to see shoveler. I also want Pink-Footed Goose, White-Fronted Goose, Long-Tailed Duck, and Garganey

[sly gulch]

Yeah there are Red Squirrel in Scotland. Hoping they'll be on the map

[delicate peak]

muntjac dont really range up into scotland too much besides a few small groups but its possible

[austere wigeon]

Then backfill them to every single map

[dense jackal]

That would be a good introduction specie to also allow gray and fox squirrels for future maps

[sly gulch]

Oh ok. Didn't know that lol. I was prolly thinking of the UK

[weak smelt]

Mallard but better

[delicate peak]

pine marten are climbers so maybe climbing animals like squirrel have a good chanve

[sly gulch]

When they showed the Mink in the water, I heard Wigeon (I think) in the background

[delicate peak]

yea idk current populations but it looks like theyre mostly focused in the southern uk

[twin fractal]

Is there gonna be a red deer pop reset

[sly gulch]

I still hope they do a date reveal trailer even tho the date was already revealed

[sly gulch]

Not that I know of

[delicate peak]

yea theres atleast a duck on the map

either mallard or wigeon

[sly gulch]

I'd honestly rather it be Wigeon than Mallard, although I'm kinda expecting both

[paper locust]

It wasn't intended so I'm sure we'll get an official RDA next week

[delicate peak]

wigeon underrated

[sly gulch]

100%

I love the Wigeon rares

[twin fractal]

Is it just the red deer in general getting reworked and or is it the g1

[delicate peak]

wigeon hybrid is peak

[ember sparrow]

I’m taking the old smoke pole to a pair Davis deer if there on this map

[sly gulch]

I'm not sure. More racks and furs would be awesome

[delicate peak]

g1 is probably also getting a rework but its not confirmed just implied

[twin fractal]

Ok thank you

[urban isle]

Scotland is in the UK

[sly gulch]

I'd also love to see Highland Cattle, although they seem kinda unlikely

[delicate peak]

im going to main the hudzik hard when this comes out

[sly gulch]

Yeah ik. I meant England lol

[ember sparrow]

That and the 303

[delicate peak]

they are just cattle tbf like literal livestock

[dark flower]

wait they’re adding blowguns?

[delicate peak]

like shooting a lamb

[urban isle]

Ah alright, you have no idea how many times I actually have to explain it to people lol 🤣

[delicate peak]

not that we know of

[digital quartz]

The UK is composed of Scotland, South Scotland, Extra South Scotland, and Northern Ireland

[sly gulch]

Yeah that is true

[dark flower]

ok

[urban isle]

This 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿

[vestal anvil]

I am doing a g1 grind for red deer do you know the average kill count

[delicate peak]

its completely rng

[sly gulch]

Soay Sheep would also be cool

[delicate peak]

no average

[sly gulch]

Yeah it's random

[vestal anvil]

Ok thanks

[valid sage]

New g1 confirmed

[urban isle]

The g1 on the Scotland map is Nessie or a wild haggis

[sly gulch]

Ngl some of the Wood Duck rares kinda look like GO's lol

Like the Dilute Silver

Speaking of Woodies, I'd love to see apricot Wood Duck (new rare plumage) being added in the future

[teal grail]

predictions for returning species

[stiff hornet]

I’d say sika are fairly likely, they’re all over the UK

[cinder flicker]

giant sikas in scot pls pls pls

[teal grail]

I feel like they want to save them for an asia map, but I would prefer them to most of those species

[urban isle]

Sikas yes we have those everywhere here but reindeers aren’t native here

[teal grail]

they did have japan as one of the possible reserves in the future

and yeah reindeers are a reintroduced species I just would like more maps with them but yeah not likely

[urban isle]

Yeah sadly there aren’t many wild ones and most are still in reserves but I hope to see the population of reindeer go up again like it was years ago

[austere wigeon]

3 maps for sika isn’t a lot tbh

[teal grail]

No yeah I agree I would like sika on more maps but im just tempering my expectations

[delicate peak]

making a scotland loudout rn should i go with hudzik or gandhare?

[weak smelt]

Gandhare

[urban isle]

Grandhare

Hudzik is too fancy for Scotland 🤣

[delicate peak]

but consider this, its the only muzzleloader in the game

[urban isle]

Never seen a Scottish hunter use a muzzleloader and I’m happy for that, we’d muck it up somehow lol

[midnight valve]

Sika without a doubt will be returning I can tell you that, there as numerious as red deer in the highlands.

[delicate peak]

the gandhare is nice

ill have to ponder it

[urban isle]

If we can’t get drunk while hunting then it ain’t a true Scotland map

Man I’m too hyped for this, my own country in my fav game

[delicate peak]

pub on the new map confirmed?!

[urban isle]

There would be a pub every few steps if it’s based near Glasgow 🤣

[vestal anvil]

What is the easiest grind

[austere wigeon]

Can’t go wrong with Rev WT or Te fallow

[cinder flicker]

wolf

[delicate peak]

guys M1 or .303?

[urban isle]

.303

[cinder flicker]

303

[weak smelt]

.303

[split sedge]

[teal grail]

Didn’t know they were that prominent also have a bad feeling the map will have more class 1s

But I hope you’re right, rather have sika than pheasant

[midnight valve]

You know it being confirmed It being 12 returning species makes It tricky.

[split sedge]

imagine irish elk g1

[midnight valve]

I'm almost wondering if boar are actually going to be present, I'm kind of leaning on the side of no.

[delicate peak]

whats a good class 1-3 shotgun?

[midnight valve]

Not having mallard on a map, or canadas when there techinally found In that region Is weird for COTW.

But Wigeon and teal are 100% much more scottish than mallards, lmo.

[urban isle]

You forgot to add a haggis to that list

[thin oyster]

man surely feral highland cows is one of the new species

[split sedge]

surely

[midnight valve]

Context on the wild boar regions.

[austere wigeon]

Should I do TE or Hirsh to grind red deer…

[urban isle]

Hope so

[split sedge]

That'd be goated

[midnight valve]

There not overly prevelent.

[thin oyster]

yea they would be so cool to hunt

[delicate peak]

i dont know is there are many feral populations that are even hunted

[midnight valve]

There's no such thing as feral highland cows in the UK

[urban isle]

I don’t think that’s accurate

[midnight valve]

It is... I live here.

[delicate peak]

probably muntjac sized populations in scotland

[urban isle]

The highlighted area is where I live and I’ve never once seen one

[midnight valve]

You wont see boar honestly even If there about.

[teal grail]

Agree that 12 returning species is kinda small, that’s when vivi made that mistake about 17 returning species I assumed stuff like mallard and Canada goose were a sure thing

[urban isle]

I’ve seen them more commonly north though when I go to visit the grandparents

[midnight valve]

And just because BDS says there there does not mean there in high numbers either.

I know a bunch escaped inverness like two years ago? there's regular shooting of them up there now.

[urban isle]

Haven’t been up there in a gid few year, I usually head up fort William way when I’m away out

[midnight valve]

Also context on the sika they'll be featured without a doubt.

[grand jetty]

Did you loose your account😭

[urban isle]

100% I’m kinda hoping that’s the new great one

[pine lily]

trick question, wait for Scotland to drop

jk do Te

[digital spade]

@midnight valve Hey I have a question Im trying to figure out what the other possible new species are and since you live their I wanted to know your opinion

[midnight valve]

Toss em at me

[urban isle]

I live there too

[midnight valve]

Also thinking about it since the map Is based on the hebrides I actually cannot see boar being in there at all.

[austere wigeon]

I deleted it… yesterday was a bad day. Kinda given me a fresh start which I like

[austere wigeon]

I think I will, still gonna shoot Wt for like 30 then I’ll start

[midnight valve]

Fallow might not be on there either.

[quaint lintel]

WHY IS EVERYBODY FORGETTING MUNTJAC

[urban isle]

Weird one but I kinda wanted crows to be added to Scotland

[midnight valve]

Because the closest muntjac population Is probably 600 miles down in england.

[urban isle]

They’re abundant everywhere

[digital spade]

@urban isle oh sorry your opinion will be good too

[teal grail]

So no fallow or wild boar but instead mallard and Canada goose🫠

[midnight valve]

There doing a highland map they wont be featured.

[midnight valve]

Probably... honestly

[quaint lintel]

They added Woodland Caribou to askiy, they can add Muntjac in the south parts of the map

[urban isle]

No it’s good, I’m happy to give an opinion

[digital spade]

One of the species I thought they might do is Eurasian beaver

[delicate peak]

Guys the nordin or the standberg?

[cinder flicker]

are there ibex in scot?

[glacial flame]

No

[digital spade]

Since they just did beaver

[cinder flicker]

strandberg

[urban isle]

I thought they would have done wildcats

[digital quartz]

Proof? I haven't seen the actual location mentioned

[cinder flicker]

sads

[glacial flame]

Yeah I haven’t seen anything mention it being based off…anywhere in particular except Scotland

[midnight valve]

Swore I had seen it somewhere.

[glacial flame]

It’s likely a mix of Scottish habitat

[dark flower]

They’re adding bison

[midnight valve]

The trailer does feature the Callinash stones too be fair.

What are the hebrides

[digital spade]

Another species in wondering is pigeon because it popped up when I looked it Hunter species but I don't know if that would match the area of Scotland

[midnight valve]

It would be kind of unusual for them too be smack dab In the middle of the highlands for example when Its a real world land mark.

[glacial flame]

It’s likely like 3/4 biomes all combined

[mighty dove]

Could have very well took influence from all parts of Scotland

[austere wigeon]

No it’s Elephant we are getting

[glacial flame]

This fs

[midnight valve]

Oh I dont disagree with you on that mel I think its gonna be a mix of all that's just how COTW does maps.

[glacial flame]

Boar are almost 100% on the map bc of the remodel

IMO

[midnight valve]

I dont really think boar got remodeled.

they looked completely the same too be in the game feeder pack.

[weak smelt]

Sucks that feral goats aren't remodeled

[glacial flame]

They 100000% did

[urban isle]

A pidgeon? Highly doubt it, people just call those flying rats and they only really populate towns or cities

[glacial flame]

They look completely different

Like

Massively

Even just the fur colours

[austere wigeon]

Yeahhhhh to be fair at least they aren’t one of the worst species in game

[weak smelt]

New leu😍 😍 😍 😍 😍

[digital quartz]

You gotta be trolling😭

[dense jackal]

Pigeons are some of the best hunting birds

[midnight valve]

They dont look any different, Its just the lighting.

[glacial flame]

This isn’t the one we are talking about

[austere wigeon]

Different shot

[glacial flame]

This isn’t the right trailer

[austere wigeon]

Yeah

[glacial flame]

It was like the 2/3 trailer thing

[digital quartz]

Idk if sol is just a troll or not

[glacial flame]

I’ll see if I can grab it hold on

[digital quartz]

"Scottish" but doesnt want a Scotland map?

[glacial flame]

I can’t find it on my phone

Oh wait floob has it

[midnight valve]

I can have an opinion about my home country, no?

[dense jackal]

The snout looks a lot better on the renew boar

[glacial flame]

@midnight valve

See

It was the dev diary

Even the body shape is completely different

[dense jackal]

Much bigger back jump on the males

[midnight valve]

Ah yes, that I'd agree with.

I must of missed that.

[glacial flame]

I can only get a couple angles

[midnight valve]

I really hope that does not mean the great one would be boar then.... but It likely will be unfortunate.

[mighty dove]

The detail on the snouts

Omg

[glacial flame]

I’d love a GO boar

[midnight valve]

It will be cool I dont doubt it but It would make more sense for roe too be G1 on a Scottish map.

(considering red already have one)

[mighty dove]

Boar \o/

[digital quartz]

Yall didnt hear?

They already released the new G1

[midnight valve]

But I at least know roe deer G1 will come at some point regardless with it being a base game animal obviously.

[cinder flicker]

red deer great one new furs and racks please

[teal grail]

Boar would be cool but yeah roe deer seems more likely

[digital quartz]

.

[midnight valve]

I noticed the red deer had new improved trueracs.

That level 9 smol rack in the teaser Is different

[glacial flame]

No?

[mighty dove]

https://tenor.com/view/youre-wrong-oscar-the-grouch-ding-dong-gif-25943635

It's Boar

[teal grail]

Or dual mallard and Canada goose G1

[glacial flame]

The racs are the same

The models are different tho

[austere wigeon]

… like one g1 for the 2 species?

[teal grail]

No we get two great ones like last year

[midnight valve]

Certinally looks different but I supose comparing images they look the same, I dont think we should toss that idea out though there's a pretty decent chance they've gotten the MD treatment.

Red deer have been neglected for years the big diamond rack looks great but otherwise there pretty lack lustre.

I dunno if they would add more great one varaints, good time to do so but I doubt(?)

[weak smelt]

Grate wan roe

[glacial flame]

That too fr

[digital quartz]

Well

I want to be an airborne ranger

I want to live a life of danger

[grand jetty]

HOGZILLA

[digital quartz]

Hogzilla would be American

[grand jetty]

Are you hating on Scottish hogs

[digital quartz]

Youre definitely using mods

[grand jetty]

Are you calling them weak

[digital quartz]

Yes

[grand jetty]

AND PUNY

[digital quartz]

Us Americans are bigger and fatter

[midnight valve]

?

[blazing kraken]

I have a question. What is this?

[grand jetty]

Plant

[digital quartz]

Scottish thistle

[urban isle]

A thistle

[grand jetty]

Should’ve been a unicorn

[urban isle]

Pointy little guys

[urban isle]

I will be mad if there isn’t a unicorn Easter egg

[grand jetty]

My mom grows them in her bog planter

[teal grail]

And nessie

[urban isle]

Exactly

[urban isle]

If they can add a wendigo Easter egg they can add a Nessie Easter egg

[proven plinth]

Kudos @glacial flame you immerse yourself in the community while also getting all the G1 Wolves. I'm impressed 😀😎

Speaking of, how do you rank your Wolf G1 furs from best-to-least??

[midnight valve]

Roe deer are quite fun, there really under represented in the game though.

[blazing kraken]

Oh, okay. I understand!

[digital quartz]

And maybe even kilts

-# Clan Davidson

[glacial flame]

Thank you!
Tough question! I think gravehide and battlethorn are my top current ones I have!

[urban isle]

A tartan camo for guns would be sick

[midnight valve]

I bet the cosmetic pack that ends up releasing eventually will be really nice.

Siberian roe are neat.

[urban isle]

A new dog would have been cool there’s a decent amount of Scottish breeds to choose from

[grand jetty]

I missed this

[urban isle]

Like a deerhound or a terrier for smaller game

[midnight valve]

Spaniels are probably the most common one I'm not quite sure if there's any that fit the niche, unless they wanted too add a coursing dog?

Coursing is banned but same idea as the Alberta caribou, only banned in the last 20 or so years so ehhhh not unreasonable.

[glacial flame]

I hope they do not add a coursing dog imo. There’s a reason that activity was made illegal

[midnight valve]

Indeed bad PR but looking at the UK as a whole shooting badgers Is also terrible PR as well lol.

[glacial flame]

Shooting something is hugely different

[midnight valve]

I dont disagree with that but badger groups are nuts too.

I dont really think there's really any more dogs they could add that would fill any niches there's a reason classic only has three.

About the only other logical one Is treeing hounds but that requires a lot of AI changes for various species.

[digital quartz]

-# flushing

[glacial flame]

Pointers do that

[midnight valve]

Does the pointer not do that?

[digital quartz]

I mean for burrows😭

[midnight valve]

I dont know if a terrier or ferret would be better.

Ferrets are def better for flushing rabbit burrows (although I supose were likely getting badger sets) but I dont know how they would work ferrets into the game.

Not like a dog that walks beside you obviously and It would feel a bit weird pulling a cage out your pack pocket with a ferret in it lol.

[finite wagon]

Not Frostbite? :(

(Im a big frostbite fan sorry)

[glacial flame]

It’s lovely but not my top one I don’t think in terms of fur

[barren inlet]

New map looks dope

Wonder what new animals will be there

Were there confirmations yet on any?

[finite wagon]

European Badger and American Mink

[barren inlet]

Mink sound extremely cool to hunt

[finite wagon]

#🦡︴cotw-scotland message and one other mustelid (pine marten probably)

[barren inlet]

Thanks man

[finite wagon]

Np!

[midnight valve]

💪

[dark flower]

ok so there’s 3 new mustelids what would the other 2 new animals be

[midnight valve]

Red grouse will be one.

[dark flower]

wood pigeon?

[midnight valve]

No clue what the 5th will be there's various different species it could be.

Pigeon Is a chance, same with woodcock... I guess wildcat... I guess? crows, etc.

[vivid cosmos]

I hope it's partridge and northern shoveler

No way the Devs have the heart to add feral Cats

To be completely honest

[midnight valve]

You know If it ends up being a Hebrides themed map Shoveler would make sense In techinal sense they've only got a season in NI but they obviously border each other.

[dark flower]

what if it’s eurasian beaver

I think they’re up there

[midnight valve]

Obviously Its COTW It wont be true Hebrides Its going too be southern, northern eastern and western In terms of landscape but It seems like with the Callanaish stones It seems like the oceaney portion Is gonna be western themed.

I wonder if there gonna go with southern highlands or southern lowlands though.

Where I live is vastly different than the highlands.

[late kettle]

Dang

[delicate peak]

Yes

Red squirrel

Let us hope the devs bless us with more stuff tomorrow

[midnight valve]

Pretty sure this is directly refering too Fingals cave as well.

[vivid cosmos]

Maybe Friday, tomorrow isn't likely

[woven depot]

Yeah its just about the new map, its not like every video is abt grinding, but like 91% of them is

Scarecrow also makes sum video abt it

Squidster

A lot of creators really

[unborn cedar]

When does this open for preorder on PlayStation? I only see it for preorder on Xbox

[modest crescent]

I gave it a watch😌

[modest crescent]

Yeah, I can see why she appeals to many.

If I had more time on my hands I could get doing a grind, but I play to relax😌

[digital quartz]

-# many kids

[woven depot]

Yeah, most of the vids are like, grinding

Can be boring

[unborn cedar]

Idk I feel like her videos can be helpful to people who want to set up their GO grinds

[modest crescent]

Naah, I'm busy doing my Masters

[woven depot]

I mean yeah but some just play for fun

[modest crescent]

Yeah, that's why I said I can see the appeal.

I'm not one of those people is all😂

[unborn cedar]

I also like her break down of new dlcs like when she tested the feeders.

[digital quartz]

Some people like ladylegend, some people don't. Some of those people are higher in age

[midnight valve]

I used too like a lot of CC's until almost all of them started grinding like crazy.

I'm not overly thrilled with flinter starting to grind a lot more either.

[modest crescent]

Oh😂

Yeah, I'm in my 30s

[midnight valve]

I'm a classic player mostly though so It makes more sense I enjoy content that feels a little(?) more rewarding a great one for the most part If you put the time In you can get one In under a week (Dont get me wrong I shot 9000 reds with none) some of the goals I have in classic I'm still working on five years later.

[digital quartz]

Mel is probably the most active in her own discord server, so she's my favorite. Some creators just feel like they interact just to maintain a quota

[midnight valve]

I do like mel, very nice person.

[digital quartz]

Ron is chill too

But hes a classic creator

[unborn cedar]

Which one is Mel?

[midnight valve]

We haven't talked much but she went out her way too add me on steam a while back I think more-so for the classic side but she hasnt played much recently.

we share a love of rare ducks on classic, so It goes hand in hand lol.

[woven depot]

What goals in classic?

[midnight valve]

I have been after an albino duck for 5 years!!! bloody awful things.

One of the rarest spawning things the game has too offer.

[woven depot]

Albino duck

[woven depot]

Are there any limits to nontyps?

[midnight valve]

Kinda I dont think any have came close too the max score maybe besides whitetail

[woven depot]

400+ mule would be a nice goal

[midnight valve]

a 371 was killed a while ago I think that's about the upper end for them, blacktail In theory can go into the 230s/240s mulies should get to the 490 mark.

[glacial flame]

Cheers fr fr

[woven depot]

No way bros here

[glacial flame]

Hurts my wrist since I damaged it : (

[woven depot]

490?

[digital quartz]

So peak🥹

[midnight valve]

Awe could you rebind things too keyboard controls?

[ripe cobalt]

Could be an otter. I know they arent hunted in Scotland, but neither are Snow Leopards .

[midnight valve]

I can understand that though mouse use on COTW is a lot less than It is classic.

[glacial flame]

I might have to try something

[digital quartz]

It was confirmed earlier to be the Haggis

[glacial flame]

I use controller

[midnight valve]

Hmm I forgot about that does classic work with controller or was the issue you were playing with keyboard/mouse?

[glacial flame]

Unfortunately Classic doesn’t and yeah it’s hard trying to do the keys

Controller I can do mostly one handed at this point

[digital quartz]

Blacktail remodel when?

[midnight valve]

I'm pretty sure there's programs out there that can rebind inputs too controllers for games that dont support it, I know Avery mentioned recently on the forums If someone needs to break TOS for accessibility, Its fine (in theory)

[glacial flame]

Ooo interesting

[midnight valve]

Not like it would modify classics controls anyways since It would be external (in theory) but you might be able to find a program too get it too work.

[glacial flame]

I’ll look into it fr

[midnight valve]

Gr8rspy(?) however Its spelt in the discord would probably know more, I know he's did classic on a controller before.

[digital quartz]

I wish it was the other way around too. My ps5 controller broke so I cant play until its fixed, despite having a keyboard and mouse😮‍💨

[midnight valve]

Ah yeah COTW on console and sorts does not have any mouse or keyboard imputs set up doesn't it? It sucks its still like that.

[jade wyvern]

That’s a WT

[fair jetty]

i think asky ridge is the best reserve, it will be difficult to beat, scotland could be a good adition

[digital quartz]

Askiy killed my grandma

Chrissy is a bad cat and lost get collar again

[tender mountain]

i think they are adding elephants to scotland

[naive abyss]

I'm hoping for euro bison

[tender mountain]

scotland reserve should have an agartha reference

[last schooner]

[tender mountain]

or fae stuff

[pine lily]

the teaser showed off amazing environmental design so im very happy

[tender mountain]

fae would be cool for missions

[digital quartz]

Brother what

[pine lily]

heya Mel, excited for the badgers?

im hyped for badgers

theyre so fluffy

[tender mountain]

we need another cave in the game and its just the entrance to agartha

amazing way to introduce mythical scottish folklore

[digital quartz]

Isn't agartha supposed to be something racist?

[tender mountain]

what

no its the people who think theres a city in the core of the earth

[digital quartz]

I keep seeing it used as a racist dogwhistle

[tender mountain]

idk if its racist people or not if it is i had no idea

ah

[pine lily]

traditional meaning

[digital quartz]

The blond hair blues eyes crowd took it over

[tender mountain]

ah yeah that makes sense…

[pine lily]

however, neofascists have weaponized it recently as a mythical obsession over the true aryans or whatever

blahblahblah more random crazoid crap that I just ignore

[tender mountain]

yeah my suggestion was a joke anyway but damn

[delicate peak]

Why do facists ruin everything

[digital quartz]

That crowd is so annoying. They want to take everything from other cultures and pretend its theirs

[tender mountain]

i know it from csgo videos with sped up down under by men at work 😭

[pine lily]

its what they do

[tender mountain]

yall know what im talking about right?

[digital quartz]

Sort of😭

[tender mountain]

its some weird ass meme rn

anyways back to my idea of the fae being cool for missions in this reserve

[ocean mortar]

Thank you thank you thank you is all I hear

[digital quartz]

Being abducted by fae would be hilarious

[shadow prism]

Acceptable map I reckon

[tender mountain]

(notice reference someone pls)

[digital quartz]

Rule 3😭

[tender mountain]

i didnt know if that would even count 😭

[digital quartz]

Idk, but it might

[pine lily]

excited for badgers?

[terse grove]

i am i been wnating mustelids for a while

wanting

[digital quartz]

Mussels? I have a picture but the mods dont want me to post it

[terse grove]

:(

h

ok thats the bug of the century

the game just broke my eardrums

[austere wigeon]

Has to have a lid I heard

[terse grove]

wait

pea crab

in a mussel!

[glacial flame]

Yesss I wanna see the rares!!!!

[pine lily]

saaaammeeeee

i wanna know what albinos look like

[limber cliff]

-# white fur

[terse grove]

LOL

some albinos look really soft though, others are sheer white

by soft i mean like. they have pinkish undertones (which makes sense because skin)

[pine lily]

lmfaaoo

[outer geyser]

Excited to see what the other 3 animals are

[midnight valve]

There more cream coloured

[night trench]

They eat these along with the mussel🥲

[terse grove]

i didnt eat it

it was on the beach

i think the crab was dead anyway

[lament vault]

Arch nemesis of British kettle farmers

[terse grove]

british people farm kettles?!??!

[lament vault]

How do you think we have beef??

[terse grove]

oh

cattle

[lament vault]

Oh I spelt it wrong 😭😭🥀🥀

[terse grove]

LMAO

[lament vault]

Dead ass I’m cooked

[terse grove]

i wasl ike "what are they talking about"

[lament vault]

Lmao

Alright your confusion is valid

[midnight valve]

Kinda surprised they ended up going with a shotgun for this map

[pine lily]

i guess the idea is Scotland's long tradition of fowl hunting

first semi-auto 12GA I think?

[astral narwhal]

alright guys i heard that European badgers are gonna be added to the game

just wanted to say that i love badgers

and im gonna go to general again

[pine lily]

badge

[astral narwhal]

cant wait to hunt them all

[pine lily]

its gonna be great

[midnight valve]

I feel like a semi 12 would be more typical of a duck themed US map

[austere wigeon]

Maybe it’s a small game focused map

[midnight valve]

sxs o/u are definitely more typical Scottish shotguns

[austere wigeon]

Ohhhh interesting

[pine lily]

thats true, y'all usually use breakguns

idk maybe they just wanted a semi-12 in the game

[midnight valve]

True probably

I was hoping for 222 there was also a decent opertunity there for a new 270

I think we still have the one in the game?

[pine lily]

yeah we have the base game .270

honestly might make use of the .223 on the scotland map

since it could take a reasonable amount of the game on it

[midnight valve]

.223 is less common, but it definitely is still used.

About 13-14 hours ago we shot a red deer with it a 222 brought it down within a minute

It's a fun little calibre.

[pine lily]

nice

[midnight valve]

Not exactly legal with the setup we're running but after the bullet weight deduction is near enough the same.

Were using like 54's need 80s in 222 (not sure if you can actually go that high) but the energy requirement is well above the requirement

I know things like the 22-250 is red legal now.

[subtle yoke]

were probably gonna get a red deer great one remodel right? it only makes sense

[scarlet bluff]

i would assume it gets a remodel just like the base species

just not new furs or racks

[subtle yoke]

well ï feel like because we got a great one in between updates and not with the new map and red deer are already getting re worked it would make sense for the great one to with new furs and racks

[scarlet bluff]

i doubt it

they've said in the past that something like that would mean it takes up time from making new GOs

and we already know we're getting a new GO so i feel like reds are out of luck for new furs and racks

[subtle yoke]

yea but with this one it’s more simple because they already have the base animal, it’s not designing a new animal it’s reworking the furs and such

[finite wagon]

Cant wait to see more examples of erythrism in the game!!

[subtle yoke]

oh ok

shame

[scarlet bluff]

i'm not gonna say it's entirely impossible just feel like it's highly unlikely

[subtle yoke]

ok

[mossy iris]

Is the thing in the trailer not an otter? looks very different to the mink

[scarlet bluff]

not an otter

it's a mink

EW confirmed no otters with this map

[mossy iris]

Funny looking mink, could just be the angle though

[modest crescent]

I hadn't seen any of your content before @glacial flame just watched your video about the new map and I'm sold! Great video and you have 1 new subscriber🫡

[modest crescent]

I will probably be sticking to breakguns myself.

I don't know why, but I prefer them even in real life

[midnight moon]

Is the .222 not superseded by the .223 now?

[midnight valve]

probably

.222 maxes out in the 50s .223 can push into the 80s. (although I imagine uncommon) I think stuff like 22-250 or .22 creed Is much more common if people are intentionally wanting a small calibre for reds.

But like If a .222 can take a hind down within a single shot at 130yrds and blow through shoulder no problem I dont really care what the specifications are the Scottish laws are wildly out dated anyways. (30-30 Isnt allowed, even on roe because It cant reach the speed required)

The old minimum effectively used to be .243 the fact they dropped that bullet weight (used to be a 100gr) I dont really care If its a .222/.223/22 Creed/22-250 all of them are going to preform near identically at that point.

Only thing the .222 would suffer with is the smaller bullet wont cary energy as long..... but if your attempting too shoot a red at 250yrds your doing something really wrong anyways.

[dawn quest]

A Dutch map would be cool. Around the Veluwe. With species like red deer, mouflons, European bisons, red foxes, gray wolves, roe deers, wild boars, Mandarin ducks, fallow deer, and badgers and al that things maybe cranes and Eagles and Ravens. I would love to see it

But the new map looks so cool to

[rare canyon]

Would be a bit of a disappointment if they dont add ring necks to the map

[midnight valve]

Would be a nice time for pheasant too get a touch up.

I imagine they will be there, pheasant shooting is huge here.

[rare canyon]

They need to make flocks more present

I rarely see them

I only see pairs of pheasants or just a solo

[dawn quest]

Woulden't it be cool?

[quiet mantle]

Ye i keep sayin that

Ur also prob dutch right

Veluwe is cool but we donthave alot of huntin opportunities except that

[snow pelican]

alps maybe

They shld add pigeons too

That work something like geese, land on fields and migrate

[lone forge]

A Dutch map with eagles where halve the animals listed don't even live there

[dusk sapphire]

Pigeons are already in game.
Lots of them.
You can shoot them on Salzwiesen.
Great for training accuracy.
Everyone should go there more often and shoot all the pigeons.
Clay pigeons that is.

[lone forge]

You are free to think what you want but im not interested much, they should focus on many other locations

[midnight moon]

Hi janny

[lone forge]

Yo kiwi guy!

[midnight moon]

Keeping out of mischief?

[lone forge]

doing my best not to get banned

[tawdry nebula]

same, holding myself to not say “when scotland”

[lone forge]

dec 9

[dawn quest]

They do i live there

[lone forge]

there are no bison in the netherlands for example

[dawn quest]

Yes i am

[dawn quest]

And a bit more but you could fill it with around 15 species

[dawn quest]

There

Are

At multiple places

Kootwijkerzand, Maashorst, Zuid kennemerduinland. And two more but i dont know the name

And cranes sounds weird but they are here

[glacial flame]

Thank you so so much!! 🖤

[dawn quest]

A few handfulls of breeding pairs but tens of thousands migrate through there

[midnight moon]

Yes, this is a rated G discord

[dawn quest]

I dont want to get banned to only i want to get heard for the Dutch community

[snow pelican]

I was quite disappointed with em

[lunar ingot]

this is SO real, i live in the countryside and i hear pheasants ALL the time and there are pheasant shoots multiple times per season because theyre so abundant here. i dont live in scotland but i know its the same anywhere else in the uk LOL

[lone forge]

those are not wild tho

[rare canyon]

Forgot im literally going on a pheasant hunt this saturday

[dawn quest]

They are wild but they are held captive in a restricted area.

[lone forge]

you get my point

eagles just arent game species

[lunar ingot]

i havent been on a hunt and in all honesty im not a fan of the people around me that do. i spoke about it the other day when talking about fox hunting near me. sadly the farmers who hunt by me do NOT follow laws but despite asking police to intervene multiple times nothing is changed… really pointless rant sorry im sure ur great ❤️ 😭

[lone forge]

the dutch landscape isnt super interesting and many species would be just repeats or some new ducks

[dawn quest]

Yes but it would be good to get a remaster and another hunting reserve were you have it

[lunar ingot]

THANK YOU!!!!!

[dawn quest]

Thats right

[lunar ingot]

isnt the netherlands the flattest country in europe?

[dawn quest]

Yes but that is elevated especially in the south veluwe

[lone forge]

if european bison id much rather have them in eastern europe or the caucasus

[lunar ingot]

point still stands its flat ay eff 😭

[lone forge]

man i understand wanting to get your home country but i reallly dont think the netherlands would be that good

[dawn quest]

But its really wavy in that part

[lone forge]

i dont want england but id ratherr have england or france then the netherlands

[dawn quest]

And you have sand drifts and heaths

[lunar ingot]

i would love england but there is no point there is nothing here. im glad they chose scotland because they at least have a bit extra wildlife and much more interesting land

[dawn quest]

And a few new species

And i mean salszweizen park is flat too

Its not that different only we would have alot more big game

You could also add Highland Scottish cows bc they are there

[tawdry juniper]

why do people want to shoot domestic cattle so bad

[dawn quest]

They look cool?

Highland cows

[lunar ingot]

i think they want to expand a bit, i think a lot of whats already been done in europe is done. we have flat. we have hilly. we have mountains. we have cold. we have warm. 90% of the species i can think of are already in game too

[tawdry juniper]

yeah, they are domestic

[dawn quest]

Yh but they are wild there free roaming

[tawdry juniper]

its like wanting to shoot dairy cows

[dawn quest]

No no its not that

[tawdry juniper]

free roaming does not mean wild

[tawdry juniper]

it is!!

[dawn quest]

They are wild

[tawdry juniper]

no they are not

[lunar ingot]

is there highland cow hunts?

[tawdry juniper]

you gotta fact check yourself there

[lunar ingot]

in the wild?

[dawn quest]

Do you love there?

[dawn quest]

Idk

[tawdry juniper]

do you??

[dawn quest]

Actually yes

[tawdry juniper]

they're raised for beef

free roaming is not wild

[dawn quest]

Live

[tawdry juniper]

they aren't wild or feral

[dawn quest]

It isn't free roaming

[tawdry juniper]

they're grazing on farm fields

[dawn quest]

Its wild

[dawn quest]

No

[tawdry juniper]

do you know what wild means

[dawn quest]

I do

[tawdry juniper]

a domesticated animal cannot be wild

wild means undomesticated

[dawn quest]

They are undomesticated

In a wild area

[tawdry juniper]

do you think highland cows are naturally occuring

[dawn quest]

No

But they got there

[tawdry juniper]

okay. so not wild

[dawn quest]

And now they are wild there

[tawdry juniper]

they are bred by humans

domesticated

[dawn quest]

They attack ppl

[tawdry juniper]

you're talking about "feral"

[dawn quest]

Feral then

But my point is that i would like a Dutch map

I dont want any discussions.

[rigid river]

xD xD

[tawdry juniper]

you don't hunt free range cows because they belong to somebody.

that's my point

[lunar ingot]

i would not like a dutch map

there i said it

[dawn quest]

But they don't belong to somebody there

[dawn quest]

I get it

But it could have cool things that you guys haven't seen.

[lunar ingot]

u know what could also have cool things i havent seen?

asian maps. south american maps. african maps.

[dawn quest]

Tell me

Yes

I want that to

[lunar ingot]

i know theyre a lot harder for the dev team to do so i get it

[dawn quest]

Rather then a Dutch map.

But bc i am dutch i would want a Dutch map to

Thats it and i love the Veluwe

[lunar ingot]

i wouldnt complain if there were, i just wouldnt be overly excited as i europe and NA are getting a bit tiring now

[dawn quest]

Yes

Its right

[tawdry juniper]

more than one tightly knit europe in a row would be tiring

[lunar ingot]

just googled it this is incredibly wrong

[dawn quest]

But like in five years if we got a few asian and African maps and maybe south America maps it could be cool.

[lunar ingot]

they are all owned by farmers or are under conservation groups

there are no wild nor major feral groups of highland cows there apparently

[dawn quest]

They belong to Staatsbosbeheer but every animal there belongs to them but that doesn't mean they aren't wild or feral.

[dawn quest]

You haven't search correctly then

[tawdry juniper]

ohh my god dude just hold the L

[lunar ingot]

this is not true, if they are owned and managed they are neither fully wild and literally cannot be feral as they are OWNED AND CONTROLLED

[dawn quest]

The numbers are controlled of every animal in the Netherlands

[lunar ingot]

i dont doubt there are a few flocks that have gotten loose, but there is no abundance

[dawn quest]

Aside from wolves

[tawdry juniper]

we're trying to fruitlessly describe to you why people should not act shocked when EW doesn't add your neighbors golden retriever as a huntable species

[dawn quest]

100-200 feral ones trust me

[lunar ingot]

that is… very few…

[dawn quest]

Its not that you have people that have them as pets a friend of mine does but. There are feral ones roaming there

[tawdry juniper]

okay man we'll see i guess

[dawn quest]

Yes

But they are there.

[tawdry juniper]

would rather have woodcock or any other variety of wild, traditionally hunted animals

[lunar ingot]

is this ragebaiting or pure ignorance

[limber cliff]

If we get woodcock we HAVE to get the meep sfx

[tawdry juniper]

not exactly psyched to shoot escaped chickens

[midnight valve]

It's fell grazing, there not feral

[limber cliff]

-# Two things can be true at once

[tawdry juniper]

what i said

[dawn quest]

It isn't ragebaiting trust me

[tawdry juniper]

i tried telling him they're owned by people but he doesn't listen lmao

[lunar ingot]

you need to take a lesson in debating classes then my dude because this is tragic im sorry

[limber cliff]

Are you in scotland - or scottish by chance?

[midnight valve]

America has more than us

[dawn quest]

I do listen but i live there and there are feral Highland cows

[lunar ingot]

they want highland cows in a dutch map…

[agile cradle]

idk whats going on but i seen reccomending a dutch map and nearly burst out laughing

[dawn quest]

Ik dutch

[rigid river]

The English stole them all

[limber cliff]

You've sent them abroad to placate the world with those incessantly cute faces, 100% the answer

[tawdry juniper]

did you doorknock for their owners

[limber cliff]

Ah okay okay

[midnight valve]

Not even just once better cows came along and the winters got mild there wasn't a need

[rigid river]

And murder multiple dogs and dog owners with those horns 😄

[lunar ingot]

look just because i see cows in a field in the wild they are not feral. there are probably feral dairy cows in scotland that doesnt mean they should be added to a hunting game 😭

[dawn quest]

Okay ty for your feedback ig

[rigid river]

Mate, there's feral cows all around me here. They're just wandering around in the fields! /s

[limber cliff]

To be fair - if you get flattened by a cow, more often than not you were doing a stupid in the cows proximity

[rigid river]

Oh 100%

Like 'I wanna go pet the calf of that giant cow with massive horns! It's so fluffy!'

[midnight valve]

I think most cows are just like Angus crosses.

[dawn quest]

They aren't in fields its in NATURE.

[tawdry juniper]

i was gonna make a point by comparing this to asking for a texan map and wanting to """"hunt""""" longhorn but there are people that want that too

[agile cradle]

theres only like 25 cows in scotland considered feral, the rest are just free roaming heilan coos

[limber cliff]

It's like people having thei dogs off leash, and the dogs run at horses out for a hack and the dog owner screams about the horses being a danger..
Like yeah okay, my horse didn't cave your dogs skull in so leash it and faff off

[dawn quest]

So thats cattle to then but then you actually dont have feral longhorns.

[limber cliff]

bring food to placate mom and interest the bab

[lunar ingot]

is said nature a reserve of some kind by any chance?

[midnight valve]

Your talking about a fell, it's thousands of acres of rough ground the cows are owned still.

[rigid river]

What even is extensive grazing?

[dawn quest]

A national reserve

[midnight valve]

A fell.... Cows graze it, thousands of acres.

[lunar ingot]

THAT IS NOT THE WILD THEY ARE NOT FERAL ARE

OH MY

https://tenor.com/view/dog-accepting-fate-tiktok-at-peace-gif-567488341419321713

[rigid river]

Waaaait, the argument is that the cows are wild/feral cos they're in a nature reserve to manage the grassland ?

[dawn quest]

No

[tepid belfry]

-# I'm not sure if I wanna keep watching this or go back to grinding

[limber cliff]

-# grinding is safer, ngl

[dawn quest]

I dont know how to describe it good to you guys but they are feral.

[lunar ingot]

guys i cant do this save me tyk time me out before i get myself banned istg 😭

[tawdry juniper]

WHERE

[rigid river]

I work in this area for a living - I can assure you that they are not feral

[limber cliff]

how long bb

[agile cradle]

there are only 25-40 animals considered Feral cattle in Scotland. the rest are free roaming owned cattle. please be quiet

[dawn quest]

Were do you work then

[lunar ingot]

30 minutes i need to do smth in person i am just so enraged i cant leave 😭

[tawdry juniper]

the area.

[limber cliff]

okay, gotchu

[rigid river]

All over the country

[dawn quest]

This isen't about scotland

[tawdry juniper]

dont doxx people thijmen

[dawn quest]

I ain't doxing

[agile cradle]

you just asked someone where they live and work lmfao

[rigid river]

Now, feral Scots in Scotland, that's a different question

[dawn quest]

But i'll stop talking

[limber cliff]

Okay hold up

lemme ask one thing -

[tawdry juniper]

can you just explain to me the fun in shooting an animal you can walk right up to

[limber cliff]

Shh wait

[agile cradle]

proofs in this chat, im right here RAAAAAH👹

[tawdry juniper]

ok ok answer tyk not me

[limber cliff]

You just said this isnt about Scotland -

[dawn quest]

Yes

[limber cliff]

So are you talking abotu another map etc? If the answer is yes

please PLEASE go make a post about it, illustrate it with your points

[dawn quest]

Yes that i would like to see.

[limber cliff]

and lets try to keep this convvo about Scotland map and what we think it would be

[dawn quest]

Alright

[tawdry juniper]

#1067511606373785730

[limber cliff]

that is, afterall, why we are in the Scotland Chat

[midnight valve]

Funny enough I have a large highland cattle operation close too me that graze on a fell.... Thousands of acres apparently there feral so I suppose I will go shoot them 🤣

[dawn quest]

But i just wanted to get my point. And ppl exploded about Highland cows

[midnight moon]

Scotland chat? Never heard of it

[dawn quest]

Haha

[tawdry juniper]

i just dont see the hype

[limber cliff]

Once your post is made you can bring it up in gen chat and people can respectfully(!!) engage with it - no dbaggery etc.

[tawdry juniper]

tyk you are a saint

[dawn quest]

K

[rigid river]

Hear me out - you make them nice and peaceful animals that people can walk up to, then they play the tiger roar and they kill you

[agile cradle]

live right across from a cow field, they look at me funny. time to harvey oswald them out my window ig

[dawn quest]

But what would ya'll like to see in a SCOTTISH MAP

[tawdry juniper]

thijmen i apologize for my rudeness

[dawn quest]

no problem

[tawdry juniper]

lets be friendly ok 🫂

[dawn quest]

Me to

[midnight moon]

Dbaggery is heresy

[dawn quest]

Peace on earth👐🏻

[midnight moon]

Lots of new animals

[midnight valve]

I would of liked too see woodcock, moorhen, Pink-footed goose

[tawdry juniper]

on god

moorhen i had not considered

[dawn quest]

Which animals?

[limber cliff]

https://tenor.com/view/jolly-cooperation-solaire-dark-souls-dark-souls1-gif-20298308

[midnight moon]

Anything new, idc

[midnight valve]

Jackdaws, and wood pigeon too.

[agile cradle]

i want to see this bit of our folklore on the map tbh

[dawn quest]

Okay

[midnight valve]

Unfortunately I think there too niche for the 5th

[midnight moon]

Solaire goes hard tbh

[tawdry juniper]

is there only one unannounced new species?

badger, mink and..?

[dawn quest]

A few we dont know yet

[agile cradle]

if theres no duke of wellington statue with his wee cone hat on Torr Nan Sithean whats even the point

[tawdry juniper]

that's all i recall

[dawn quest]

Only Badger and Mink we know

[midnight valve]

No and yes, if they don't do red grouse there doing something wrong

[tawdry juniper]

lol

[midnight moon]

More jolly cooperation in cotw thanks

Be a Solaire

[midnight valve]

It's kind of safe too assume it's one of the new species

[agile cradle]

what if they just do it dirty and call it returning and use the willow

[midnight moon]

Right, be nice if there were new large species too

[limber cliff]

...Does Scotland have much in the way of 'large'?

[midnight moon]

The women maybe?

[limber cliff]

(othe than the EU Bog Standard)

[midnight valve]

If they rename them too reds for the map and consider them willows? Not mad at all, they at one point were classed as a subspecies.

[tawdry juniper]

so the 5 new animals must be badgers, mink, red grouse and two others

[midnight moon]

We could hunt the loch ness monster, that is large

[agile cradle]

true but aren't red grouse smaller? i hope they at least downsize em

[tawdry juniper]

hopefully woodcock and some kind of waterfowl

[midnight valve]

I believe there bigger

[dawn quest]

Sigma woodcock truther i apologize. I just wanted to be heard yk cuz i like my country and especially that bit. So i just wanted to say it. It weren't my intention to start a while discussion about it.

[tawdry juniper]

would eider be possible?

[agile cradle]

i knew there was something about size i jus didnt know which way round lol

[midnight moon]

We could hunt IRS members

[agile cradle]

they've got me ig?

[midnight moon]

Nvm that's COD

[agile cradle]

yes but i havent seen them personally

[midnight valve]

Google has them set at 600, willows 800 but truthfully I wouldn't take those weight estimates

[tawdry juniper]

pintail could return

[limber cliff]

(while its relatively peaceful in here , I am gonna go do my grass touch community service)

[tawdry juniper]

that was not meant to be a reply

my bad thij

[dawn quest]

I know

[midnight valve]

There will be individuals with different sizes

[agile cradle]

i have seen alot of eurasian coots for a supposedly rare bird to see in scotland

[tawdry juniper]

😭

[limber cliff]

Coastal or something, no?

[midnight valve]

100% been 1kg red grouse before

[midnight moon]

Coots? Lol

[agile cradle]

yup and much more north than i am

[limber cliff]

theyre so pretty

[tawdry juniper]

its unlikely but if we got woodcock and eider i would lose my mind

in a good way

[midnight valve]

Coots exist, but moorhen are there prettier cousin

[limber cliff]

I like the skeletal look of coot feet

[dawn quest]

Are there woodcock in Scotland?

[agile cradle]

both are cool but i prefer the white beak of the coot

[midnight moon]

Sigh...why so serious?

[limber cliff]

like those old halloween nylon gloves with fake bones glued on

[midnight valve]

Moorhen are decently common too.

[midnight moon]

Looks like a pukeko

[midnight valve]

Hundreds of thousands

[tawdry juniper]

i'm like 99.9% sure lol. they're not the most popular from what i can tell but i definitely want them

[limber cliff]

lookit them TOES

[tawdry juniper]

you could backfill em a few places too

[midnight moon]

Wood..what?

[dawn quest]

Damn

[midnight valve]

Woodcock

[tawdry juniper]

girl be calm

[dawn quest]

I get it there so cool

[midnight valve]

meep bird

[agile cradle]

in Fife i heard they've got this one pretty special wild animal

the Heroinious Junkius

[midnight moon]

Sounds like splinters to me

[midnight valve]

Woodcock in my area of game bird shooting are probably the most saught after bird.

[midnight moon]

I'm not sure who came up with these names

[midnight valve]

America has woodcock too.

[midnight moon]

And it's always birds

[jovial jolt]

You guys recon something interesting will happen with feral goats, it seemed like a bit of a spotlight or more attention than I’d expect

[agile cradle]

the popular one near me is unfortunately hand reared brain dead pheasants. god i hate the posh game keepers.

[midnight valve]

Woodcock

[midnight moon]

Add a smell to the billys

[tawdry juniper]

woodcock map

[agile cradle]

they raise them to be so aloof that they have absolutely no urgency to move from danger other than the noise of the beaters

[viscid jolt]

Despicable

[jovial jolt]

When you come within 5m of one you catch a scent and you you leave a trail that scares off other animals except female feral goats or smth lol

[midnight moon]

Once one smells a billy they never forget

[limber cliff]

They have cute Halloween feet

[midnight moon]

For some reason urinating on themselves is attractive to females

[limber cliff]

Its all the horrormones

[agile cradle]

i actually need to look into getting my gun license and certifications so i can hunt. theres not much online about the rules surrounding getting my license but not owning the rifle, mostly tells you that safe storage of your rifles is required before even applying and why do i need safe storage if im not going to purchase one? i just want to use rentals

[tawdry juniper]

many such cases in ungulates

moose do the same

[midnight moon]

They're strange animals

[limber cliff]

Won't disagree

[jovial jolt]

~~ Might try this out ~~

[tawdry juniper]

oh so when HE does it its attractive

[midnight valve]

Honestly I do beating the difference between hand fed birds too feeder fed birds with minimal hands on is pretty negiable.

The issue is ex-layers that are released at the start of a drive however.

[jovial jolt]

How unfair

[tawdry juniper]

im truthing out so hard rn

i am going to be sorely disappointed in the weeks to come

[midnight valve]

Your required too buy a rifle if you want too hold a firearm license, you can't just get a licence in that type of circumstance.

[midnight moon]

Adios amigoes

[jovial jolt]

Cya brotha

I really want highland cows or feral sheep but I know it won’t happen

[agile cradle]

ah i see, they are just pretty thick birds then😂the amount of pheasant guts we've had to remove from cars over the years is INSANE they just stand in the way

[midnight valve]

You can shoot a rifle right this second if your over 17 with no license long as your shooting with a certificate owner, though what sounds like what your after.

It's commonly refered too as the estate rifle law.

[agile cradle]

i thought that was true! i really should be going to more people actually knowledgeable on the subject because its getting increasingly difficult to find whats allowed and what isn't online

[midnight valve]

Stalking directory isn't bad for questions I admit it's a good website.

[agile cradle]

i have money for a stag hunt, just not enough for a rifle to accompany me

[tawdry juniper]

eider hen and woodcock spot the difference

[agile cradle]

i'll check it out later on cheers

[midnight valve]

But if you just want to go out and target shoot with someone, or book a guided stalk with someone just buy BASC insurance and book in with someone.

Insurance isn't even required but it's just a sensible thing too have really.

[rigid river]

Get hired in the south of England when they finally do their Fallow deer cull and stop trying to get rich Saudi princes to 'buy' the permits to cull

[midnight valve]

Actually getting a firearm license is tedious unless you want too become a club shooter your required too have land prior too your application too be granted.

If you want too target shoot and move onto animals you'll have to actually send in for a certificate variation and ask for your ticket too include recreational hunting of deer and vermin.

What some forces don't like doing.

You'll probably have too do several guided stalks, your DSC1/DSC2, food handling as well (not in a mean way) for a nobody too be granted a license.

It's crap here.

Having someone you know that shoots and holds a license boosts your chances significantly too an almost unfair advantage.

Not too mention I think today theres a poll going too parelement too make shotgun ownership as strict as rifle owner ship, fun times for the UK!

(right now shotguns are a right, you need basically no reason to own one)

[tawdry juniper]

does this ever cause issues? i know here in america with almost every type of gun being a fundamental right there are definitely consequences to that sort of thing

but that's rifles and handguns

[midnight valve]

Sometimes? Like, shotguns can still be used for bad but too aquire your license you still need to be cleared by your doc and sorts

[tawdry juniper]

i see

obviously at the end of the day any weapon can be used to kill but of course there's harm reduction to be done

[midnight valve]

It's a right in the sense your application can't be refused for a non valid reason but it still follows the same restrictions as a rifle cabinate required, background check and sorts

Only majoring differing things with shotgun owner ship any age can apply, there's a borrower law (can hold someone's for 3 days) and cartridges don't need to be stored in safes

[agile cradle]

i'm 23, finally my own man and would still be absolutely murdered by my parents if i didn't get myself insured for absolutely anything that has something to insure 😆i'll def be getting insurance for a hunt

also thats mental about shotguns, they're going to keep stripping more and more of our gun rights as time goes on. when was the last you even really heard of a shotgun murder here? its few n far between these days as far as public news goes

[tawdry juniper]

yeah it's similar here only for a massively larger array of weapons

varying by state ofc

here gun control or lack thereof is clearly a massive issue and shootings are basically what we're known for now so im always curious about the situation in other countries

[midnight valve]

I'm not actually sure on the law exactly but overall the culture with shotguns seems different too I've been handed a shotgun and I'm like miles away from the owner with no certificate.

Rifle the furthest I've been is 300-400 yards and tbf that's pushing it

But same time there's only so many people you can take deer stalking sometimes staying back is sensible

[agile cradle]

one of my old friends i no longer speak to used to just be handed shotguns while out beating, she had no licensing no prior experience handling weapons, the owner of the shotgun was in another country at the time. it seems incredibly lax

[midnight valve]

Pretty much, especially on a pheasant shoot like you might be miles from the guns owner but your usually no more than 100yrds from a certificate owner lmo.

[limber cliff]

how much actual meat can you get off a pheasant?

[midnight valve]

A decent bit, the legs are filled with boney tendons though

[tawdry juniper]

small chicken

[limber cliff]

the only ones I ever saw were raised for competition at fair - so they had a 'standard' body to maintain

[agile cradle]

the only time i ever handled a firearm was down south when i was 7 on the estate my uncle used to live on, i wasnt even strong enough to disengage safety or pull the bolt back lol

i was a little noodle armed child back then

now im a noodle armed adult

[midnight valve]

I shot a roe on Monday and as I was going too shoot my shooting sticks snapped at the top

Had to roll a pebble too rest the rifle on lmao

[limber cliff]

modern problems require modern solutions

[midnight valve]

Exactly

[agile cradle]

biggest pain of my life surrounding hunting is my dominant eye and dominant arm is my left hand side, but my left shoulder might genuinely crumble to pieces from any kind of recoil

[midnight valve]

The 222 I use there has no kick

[agile cradle]

its held together by hopes n dreams after all my injuries

[limber cliff]

time to learn how to be ambidextrous

[agile cradle]

oooooo thats a pretty rifle

[limber cliff]

[agile cradle]

its odd though, im left hand dominant but i cant play a left hand guitar to save my life

[limber cliff]

I just want my yarn

[hexed dust]

You have a silencer? How is it, good?

[tawdry juniper]

man i love roe deer

[limber cliff]

I wonder how the remodel will look on the red deer with the piebald pattern

[tawdry juniper]

underrated little fellas