🦡︴cotw-scotland

[bitter matrix]

Well shoot if it’s legal I just may bring a corn spreader and see what happens

And the red deer bein deer n all they’d prolly love a salt lick too

[midnight moon]

You might have success since hardly anyone does it

Lol you're giving me ideas

[bitter matrix]

Please oh please utilize these ideas and lemme know how they work out

[midnight moon]

I’m back freaks 😜

How’s the hunters

[midnight moon]

Seems to me that the possums and rats would get to it first

It seems less effective in this country from what I read

And I might not be hunting for a while. If I can get out late this month I will

Come spring, they'll drop antlers

[bitter matrix]

That’s why you get a timed feeder or a sensory one they do exist

Also a trail cam helps a lot with timed feeders

[midnight moon]

Sadly I don't have the money to spend atm

[bitter matrix]

I have issues with opossums and raccoon but here in the states they’re considered rodents so I can blast all I want

[bitter matrix]

Just something to think about ya know, a little saving for a broader spend ya know

[midnight moon]

You yanks and your bait stations lol, I just try catch them at feed time

That makes me think about an issue with cotw, animals drink for hours lol

[bitter matrix]

I mean… it works, but we also drive deer here

[midnight moon]

Seems legit

[bitter matrix]

Fr💀

[midnight moon]

In rl, dawn or dusk when they feed tbh

Most public land is illegal to hunt at night

In the roar all day is free game

[bitter matrix]

Yep, I’ll have WT taking sips from the pond out back at 4:30 am almost every mornin and they stay for about 30 minutes then leave

It’s also illegal to might hunt here

I think only exception is hogs and coyotes, I know with duck they’ll take your gun and rip you out of your blind and ship you to county for a weekend

[midnight moon]

I don't even know if tahr and chamois need to drink. Never seen it

[jovial jolt]

Can’t wait for tahr

[midnight moon]

Maybe they get hydration from plants

[bitter matrix]

The mornin dew on the grass is a huge source of water

[jovial jolt]

Lmao I really really want to hunt the star species and sole reason I will buy the map… the wooly hare

[midnight moon]

It'd be a pain naturally to descent say 1km just to drink

[bitter matrix]

I can see that

[midnight moon]

Red deer def drink though

[bitter matrix]

But don’t they literally eat snow?

[midnight moon]

What, tahr?

[bitter matrix]

Yea

[midnight moon]

No idea 🤣

Mysterious animal

[jovial jolt]

Tahr were put there by the cia

[long spade]

Could also find small pockets of water from snowmelt or condensed mist/rain in the rock formations. Happens a lot here in the rockies with mule deer

[midnight moon]

Probably

https://blog.doc.govt.nz/2020/08/07/10-questions-about-tahr/

Here's a bit about what the nz government is up to regarding tahr

[long spade]

Backfill to Te has already been mentioned, so I'm kinda looking forward to that. Jaxy said they weren't coming with this update but the team wanted to do it

[midnight moon]

They'll do it. He said it's the most requested species since te awaroa which surprised me

And they shouldn't have drink zones on te. It wouldn't be realistic to have tahr piling down to lakes

They just don't do that

And then chamois and tahr would probably be apart because they don't like each other much

Chamois avoid tahr

Interesting....I'll give them some input into this

[long spade]

I mean, tahr are iconic mountain species. I wouldn't be opposed to a second NZ map that focused more on the highlands/mountains. Would also give us a chance at wallabies

[midnight moon]

Not sure how they'd do it. They've represented most of NZ with te already and if it's just high up some species would be excluded

[long spade]

I have a weird question tho, are pumpkins popular in NZ?

[midnight moon]

In regards to what?

[long spade]

My wife found a recipe for red deer and pumpkin stew that was supposedly the most popular venison stew in the North Island and yet I never even heard about people outside the US even caring about pumpkin

[glacial flame]

Indeedy

Working hard to make useful/cool things for you all!

[long spade]

How many tacos would you rate the map?

[midnight moon]

Key word supposedly lol. Well people eat it sometimes as a vegetable or as soup

[lethal hound]

I wish you luck on the tiger grind!!

[long spade]

I mean, I liked it but idk if it would be something I was excited about

[glacial flame]

Well, I can’t technically say anything until the 14th…👀👀👀

[glacial flame]

Thank you so much!

[stray basalt]

Darn

[midnight moon]

It isn't really and I don't overly like them

[long spade]

Flinter rated it 147 tacos

Mel hates the map

[limpid dock]

That must suckkk

[glacial flame]

Trust me- I wanna say all the things- but it’s like when beard can’t say anything. I can neither confirm or deny-

[royal cliff]

Just tell us when they update the Martini henry to cover 9s

[midnight moon]

Do they make you sign an NDA?

[glacial flame]

Internally I’m bursting at the seams lmao I want to talk 😭😂 but I like my creator privileges lmaooo

[glacial flame]

Yeah everything is nda until embargo

[jovial jolt]

It would be unfortunate if one of ur videos managed to get… leaked….

(Send ur yt acc login Fr)

[glacial flame]

😂😂😂

[midnight moon]

Does suck, but good company to keep secrets for

[stray basalt]

This must be how jaxy feels.

[long spade]

Would I be OK to tell us how the map feels in comparison to the others? Not in descriptive terms but just how it feels to be on there

[glacial flame]

Exactly

[jovial jolt]

And it’s 12 days of early access

[glacial summit]

so if I dm you and pinky promise not to tell you still wont tell me anything?

[glacial flame]

Fr fr it’s so hard lmaooo

[jovial jolt]

Lmao 8 which you can’t say anything

[midnight moon]

People didn't believe me when I said you all have early access

[royal cliff]

NDA means NDA, I've signed enough of them to know that you don't say jack about anything regardless

[glacial flame]

I wish I could I really do lol

I can tell you I’m planning on at least 12 videos tho

[jovial jolt]

Can’t wait

[glacial summit]

So the only way thats left is I have to find your home and look through your window

[shadow prism]

You already able to play or am I just stupid

[glacial summit]

what an inconvenience

[jovial jolt]

I’ll help

[glacial summit]

Holy spelling

[glacial flame]

Good luck! 😭🙏

[glacial summit]

thx

[glacial flame]

All partnered creators currently have early access yes

[long spade]

Fair, it would be nice to know if you would actually feel nervous on the map tho. I know a couple people aren't looking forward to worrying about being stalked

[jovial jolt]

Can u tell us if the sky looks like sky?

[shadow prism]

Nice is it better then emerald coast or can you not say?

[jovial jolt]

They can’t say

[glacial flame]

My lips are sealed…

[midnight moon]

They cannot say lmao

[shadow prism]

Alr lol

Wasn’t sure if you guys could say anything at all or not

[midnight moon]

Stop stressing her out

Lol

[jovial jolt]

She’s gonna leave the server out of fear of leaking something

[royal cliff]

Depends on the terms of the NDA, most of the ones I've signed are for film and video game trailers, all you can say is you viewed it and that's pretty much it.

[shadow prism]

We still got jaxy for the leaks at least lol

[midnight moon]

Lol if it was me, I wouldn't be here til the 14th

[jovial jolt]

The only choice now is to get partnered as a content creator within 3 days

Can you guys help?

[shadow prism]

Gotta leak to me at least if I do🤣

[long spade]

Aside from that, 12 videos in 8 days seems like a lot. You did plan a few breaks right?

[glacial flame]

But I like talking with everyone is the problem lmao

[jovial jolt]

Lmao

[glacial flame]

What is a break?

[jovial jolt]

I have an idea, just blast it all out to like mee6 private chat and delete the messages so there isn’t any chance of leaking

[royal cliff]

Anyways Royal Armouries has a really good video on the Martini-Henry as well as C&Rsenal on the actual Gahendra, would recommend you guys watch it

[midnight moon]

Knowing me I'd clown too much and something would slip

[glacial flame]

I do genuinely feel like I’m walking a tight rope lmfaooo

[shadow prism]

Ima hop off goodluck getting leaks🤣 lmk how it goes

[long spade]

The times you put your character in the outpost so yo can go to the bathroom or make a sandwich

[jovial jolt]

Do we know if that Microsoft worker got fired?

[glacial flame]

Ohhhhh those. I don’t do many of those…

[royal cliff]

Watched basically every decent video on the .577/450 Martini and it can definitely cover 9s in game lol

[midnight moon]

Which do you recommend?

[royal cliff]

C&Rsenal, Royal Armouries

Also Hickock45

[midnight moon]

Damn

[royal cliff]

Turns out scopes for them where extremely rare so don't be shocked if it doesn't come with the option for one

[long spade]

Everything I could find regarding cartridges and loadings was similar to a large bore pistol like the 454. Also, we need to know if they based the in game ammo on the load that was developed after complaints about the recoil

[midnight moon]

How much recoil did it have?

[royal cliff]

But from what I gathered, the. 577/450 martini is amazing for close range but long range is oof

[midnight moon]

Another 470....

[timber juniper]

They look so funny when there aggressive

[midnight moon]

[royal cliff]

Jaxy has gone drunk with power

[jovial jolt]

They look like aliens

[timber juniper]

[royal cliff]

He's building an army, 200k at the ready with a million more on the way

[jovial jolt]

[midnight moon]

Alright..I've been here too long again

[long spade]

Couldn't find exact numbers but apparently it was "vicious and untenable by the average man" so probably in the 40 pound range? There was a set standard that military ammo couldn't have more than 20 pounds of recoil as it caused accuracy issues

[royal cliff]

Remember we're talking about a mid-late 1800s rifle here

Black powder was still the main source of BOOM

[jovial jolt]

I would’ve assumed it would be the military version due to the word General being engraved in it

[midnight moon]

Allright. Ig that's why they went away from 30 06 then

[long spade]

Late 1800s. The 470 was developed as a sporting cartridge after the 577/450 was banned by colonial governments in case of rebellion

[royal cliff]

The Martini-Henry was swapped to .303 since it was proven to be more ergonomic then the .577/450 but it didn't last long since the SMLE replaced it

[long spade]

Keep in mind. Depending on the weight of the rifle, a 470 has between 70 and 90 pounds of recoil

[royal cliff]

I'm still going to keep myself under the impression that the 4-8 we saw on stream is just a "placeholder"

[jovial jolt]

Hopefully

[long spade]

Hope so, I really want the map exclusive rifle to work on the map exclusive big cat

[royal cliff]

Just like the .22-250 could down Roos

And the .470 being able to down Capes

And the .300mag being able to down Moose and Bison

[long spade]

I hate those iron sights and that model of rifle came in 257 too. It could have competed with the 243 for load out queen

[royal cliff]

It's already my 2-4 loadout queen

[jovial jolt]

The irons are so crap

Like it’s a giant box and a line

[languid wedge]

I mean the 22-250 is a damn good power house as it is it kinda already does

[royal cliff]

It's essential a .22 with an unholy amount of powder projecting it

Like a regular .22lr is a Business jet in terms of speed
.22-250 is the SR-71 of .22s

[long spade]

It does, but hog deer are pretty rough with it and the .25 caliber bullet would have definitely made it more reliable on 4-6 animals

[midnight moon]

I think that would go to the .22 creedmoor iirc

[long spade]

Or 22 nosler(serouiouly, it is a 404 Jeffrey case tortured into holding a .22 caliber bullet and a case full of powder

[royal cliff]

When you need to get rid of the rabbits and also send them a message

Honestly tho looking at it, .22N would be perfect for another 2-6

[languid wedge]

I mean 220 Swift was a bullet that was trying to get somewhere fast tmk those things could hit 4,000 fps

[midnight moon]

Idk much about nosler, but I saw a video on some calibres and I couldn't believe how flat the .22 creedmoor was shooting compared to anything else

These modern cartridges are ridiculous

[bitter matrix]

A 22 bigger than a 223!?!?

Please tell me I’m not trippin😭🙏

[midnight moon]

With what bullet weight?

[timber juniper]

[bitter matrix]

[royal cliff]

[midnight moon]

Well it's the same size diameter wise, more powder and probably more efficient

And bullet weights vary. Gets confusing sometimes

[bitter matrix]

Yea I was about to say, that cartridge is a little bigger meaning more powder

[languid wedge]

Very quick internet such says 4k with a 40gr and 4700 with a 29gr projectile

[long spade]

Creed mores are pretty much designed for target shooting at long distance so it makes sense. But on the other hand some hunting clubs here banned the 6.5 creed more because it wounds but doesn't kill deer fast enough to be harvested

[bitter matrix]

I want 556 nato rounds😭🙏

[long spade]

223 with an fmj bullet?

[midnight moon]

A yeah, creedmoor does 3 600 with 60gr

Designed for higher gr rounds

[bitter matrix]

But on a more AR like platform😭🙏

[midnight moon]

Lol people go on about pencil 6.5s

[bitter matrix]

The m16 looks wack😭

[long spade]

Modern weapons pack, you got exactly what you want

[bitter matrix]

Nooooo😭

[languid wedge]

Seems like the 220 swift 22-250 and 204 Ruger is some of the fastest

[bitter matrix]

I mean 556 has better velocity than 223

[long spade]

204 ruger is insane. Shot a coon at 350 something yards with one once and the head just turned to mist

[languid wedge]

5.56 is just a tiny bit bigger bullet with a tiny bit more powder

[bitter matrix]

😳

[languid wedge]

Lmfao

[sudden ginkgo]

That’s crazy

Crazy?

[bitter matrix]

It has just that tiny bit of buff that 223 doesn’t have in game

[midnight moon]

I think the swift is

[sudden ginkgo]

I was crazy once. They locked me in a room. A rubber room. A rubber room with lynx. The lynx made me crazy.

[long spade]

I mean, they are interchangeable. Same cartridge with a different name

[bitter matrix]

I dunno, I just know the 223 m16 is not it

[sudden ginkgo]

@languid wedge ur mum phat

[bitter matrix]

😱

[languid wedge]

Remember you can shoot 223 out a 556 but you can't shoot a 556 out a 223

[uneven bloom]

[long spade]

It sounds like you just want a flat top style ar so why not get it in say 300blackout?

[stray basalt]

Shots fired.

[sudden ginkgo]

.308

[languid wedge]

You mean 7.62x39?

You mean ska?

[midnight moon]

Saying it like everyone knows haha

[long spade]

Really? I have, a lot, like 2k plus rounds and the only difference is how dirty the barrel gets

[sudden ginkgo]

Don’t most manufacturers idiot-proof their weapons against this exact thing?

[bitter matrix]

Cuz 300 black out won’t be strong enough

[languid wedge]

I know of it can screw it up and have always been told am I 100% sure? No

[long spade]

And 223 would be? 6.5 Grendel or 50 beowulf

[bitter matrix]

I did talk about Beowulf earlier

Would be a fan of that

[languid wedge]

Yes the cartridge ain't supposed to fit

[midnight moon]

Can you shoot a .22 short out of a .22LR?

[languid wedge]

Yes

[midnight moon]

I wouldn't personally

[languid wedge]

22lr 22 Long and 22 shorts are interchangeable in single shot and lever action guns

22 shorts are really good if you need to be quiet

[midnight moon]

.22LR is plenty quiet tbh

[long spade]

With 556 I've run bolt actions, single shots and semi autos chambered for 223 and the only issue was how much fouling ended up collecting in the barrels

[midnight moon]

Animals still run from subsonic vs supersonic

However

[languid wedge]

This is more neighborhood pest control and everything 22 short can be very quiet out of a rifle naturally

[finite wagon]

Kwaks can I ask u a quick question rq

[midnight moon]

With the effective range of a bb gun probably

[languid wedge]

Yes

[finite wagon]

Does #🖼️︴fan-art have to be specifically something cotw related or can it be any animal art

[long spade]

Yeah, shorts don't function well in certain lever actions. Or particularly long barrels

24" Henry 22 I drove six hours away for

[languid wedge]

Games and animals related to the games really

[finite wagon]

Ah ok

[long spade]

Or animals you hope to see in the game

[bitter matrix]

☝️☝️☝️

[languid wedge]

Yeah stuff like that

[finite wagon]

Yeah what i was gonna post is none of that its just paleoart

So nvm lol

[languid wedge]

Then drop it in off topic

[finite wagon]

Will do

[long spade]

Oh yeah, kwaks, I nuked an albino quail the other day

[languid wedge]

Stubble......?

Or irl

[long spade]

Yeah, I was trying to finish that stupid goose mission and it flew over my blind

[languid wedge]

@midnight moon You just have an addiction to baseball caps?

[long spade]

Glad sundarpatan isn't bird central, I'm tired of them

[midnight moon]

That's 🧢

[long spade]

He's from NZ so he's got that upside down thinking

[languid wedge]

[languid wedge]

Ayyy one of those want to be Aussies

[humble tinsel]

I agree with huxley

[long spade]

Don't start, janny has been annoying about birds too

[uneven bloom]

I want peafowl, darn it

[midnight moon]

Is it me who's upside down or rightside up?

[glacial summit]

Not enough frolicking in meadows been happening recently

[long spade]

@languid wedge this is the only bird I'd accept

[stray basalt]

Guess we will have to wait for an Australia 2.0 Outback edition… sighs.

[languid wedge]

It in the South and a pheasant in the North I'm not wanting a lot just few uplands

[humble tinsel]

I want Whitetail Deer in the game

[languid wedge]

Yeah they really could added them

[long spade]

I could deal with just two but I wish there was a sound slider for birds

[midnight moon]

I'm ok with one or two uplands

[languid wedge]

2 upland or a upland and a NEW waterfowl

And not damn map wide like those damn quail on ec

[midnight moon]

Finding it hard to get a dim?

[long spade]

Why greylags? Like, that is the plainest looking bird ever on a mapvthat could have been like an acid trip

[humble tinsel]

I would accept more waterfowl on Mississippi

[stray basalt]

bobcats and coyotes too.

[humble tinsel]

Yeah

[midnight moon]

Mississippi can have all the birds it wants. Horrible map

[long spade]

Himalayan Monals could have been awesome

[midnight moon]

Goral, serow

[long spade]

Goats?

[languid wedge]

Imma ban you

[long spade]

He lies

[languid wedge]

Mississippi should been what they wanted with nem

[humble tinsel]

I approve

[midnight moon]

Species of I think

[long spade]

Yeah, we were discussing birds tho so goats are random

[humble tinsel]

I’m not gonna be on any other map for awhile after this one releases

[midnight moon]

The perils of multitasking

[humble tinsel]

I could hunt the tigers for the rest of my cotw career

[long spade]

I think, of all the mods on here, only cash and kwak have threatened to ban me. . .

[midnight moon]

They must be clowns or something

[languid wedge]

Yoter bobcat red fox? Wood duck teal mallard sandhill Crain to name a few

[long spade]

No, kwak was pretty much a neighbor and I liked annoying cash so I can't blame them

[languid wedge]

To much work went into gators

[long spade]

Only for the high grass to make them annoying to hunt

[languid wedge]

Then you left me

[long spade]

And I'm much happier for it

[languid wedge]

Ic

[humble tinsel]

Dinosaur

[long spade]

BTW, wth happened back there? I went to see my parents last month and like 3 buildings were collapsed in my home town

[languid wedge]

Probably tornados

Idk exactly where hell you was from just rough guess

[long spade]

Nah I can tell you, I used to live in Sparta

[languid wedge]

But tornadoes been hell this year for everyone

[languid wedge]

No wonder you left

[long spade]

Now he gets it

[languid wedge]

But hay I was close

[long spade]

What our football team thought they were

What they were🙈

[languid wedge]

Hehe

[long spade]

Summer In Tennessee

[midnight moon]

10 mins and I'm tapping out

[languid wedge]

Hell in Tennessee*

[long spade]

Nah, you know clearing fence lines was worse. Between the briars rusty barbwaire and snakes you never went home without bleeding

[languid wedge]

Who hell clears fence lines? You just let that shitt grow up and become it's own fence

[long spade]

My boss was a real ahole and picky af, rarely ever had a choice

To keep this on track, how you feel about the tigers?

[languid wedge]

I'm going to mass murder yaks then they'll be next

I really want all furs and can't wait to be a ballerina with the tigers as a water buffalo is trying to kill me

[long spade]

I remember the devs used to worry about how people would react to endangered animals but now that we have Tigers In the game people are picking fights about the reserves rifle not being ethical to kill them

[languid wedge]

But yak and leopards is my main goal

[true ice]

This.

[languid wedge]

Yeah that's just bullshitt I hope the large disappointment in it makes next upgrade have it becoming 4-9

[long spade]

I'm stuck on barasingha personally, I want that big weirdo on my wall

[gaunt imp]

Ay y'all are back on the map talk:)

I want a SR munty

[languid wedge]

I want a mela leopard

[true ice]

My absolute dream end goal is a SR leopard

I will actually retire from hunter if I get a SR leopard

[uneven bloom]

honestly, if the tigers and snow leopards had been all over the map like any other animal, I probably would've dropped COTW and never looked back. I like how they're handling the fact that they're strictly protected animals IRL

[midnight moon]

I'm hunting tahr and tigers

[long spade]

I mean @uneven bloom made a thread asking for class 9 on it and the thread turned into huge argument in l I ke 3 mins

[languid wedge]

Tf?

[uneven bloom]

The original intent of the thread was "we need a break from 4-8 rifles" actually

[midnight moon]

Argument about what?

[languid wedge]

How of all things could people argue about getting a more versatile gun

[long spade]

People are nuts

[languid wedge]

You mean the like 70% of guns we got lol

[uneven bloom]

yeahhhh

we don't have many options for class 9 animals

[long spade]

Sorry. I got lost in the argument to so I don't remember the op

[gaunt imp]

I'll still carry a bow for tigers

[humble tinsel]

Eh same way some don’t like that we’re getting mela and albino for the tigers

[long spade]

I feel like we have so few options for 6-9 and 2-5

[gaunt imp]

Not even if the new rifle could cover class 9 i still wouldn't use it

[uneven bloom]

both 3-7 rifles we have are handicapped

[honest stream]

is there any image of it

[languid wedge]

No

[gaunt imp]

Nop

[uneven bloom]

Mosin only has softpoints, caplock is severely range-restricted

[gaunt imp]

Them soft points hit like a truck

[humble tinsel]

.270 moved to 3-8 thoughts

[uneven bloom]

3-7 would be better

[midnight moon]

Why can't the 270 and 6.5 cover class 3?

[uneven bloom]

it doesn't exactly have the punch needed for class 8

[long spade]

And the ammo change the 45-70 go with the pistol didn't apply to the rifle either

I'd love to see 270, 6.5, and .30-30 as 3-7 guns, it's just a really under used area

[languid wedge]

None handguns
2-3s
22h
223
22-250
243
30-30
44mag
9s
7mm
338
45-70
300
470.
4 NONE BASE GAME CALIBERS

We need more none 4-8 dlc calibers

[uneven bloom]

I just have the nastiest feeling that the next weapon pack is going to have more 4-8's in it 💀

[languid wedge]

Oh and 54r I forgot about the mosin

[long spade]

A weapon and animal class rework would make a world of difference

[humble tinsel]

270 is too weak ingame

[languid wedge]

270 and 6.5 needs minor buff and lower classes

[long spade]

It feels like 4-8 is just a bucket they throw guns into so they can focus on making fur look better

[uneven bloom]

forgot how fun late-night chat could get

alas, it's about to be 3AM

[midnight moon]

They seem to like making variations of calibres already in game as well

[humble tinsel]

About to be 2am here

[languid wedge]

Honestly the best thing they could do is add different bullets with different weights

[humble tinsel]

And I have to get up for 7on7s at 5am

[long spade]

I'm not saying it's lazy or they aren't putting in work on them but it feels like the guns just don't get the attention they give every other aspect of the game

[languid wedge]

I mean you ain't really wrong

[midnight moon]

So how do they decide a standard gr weight for each calibre I wonder...

[long spade]

They don't seem to choose a particular weight, just a bullet shape and go from there

[stray basalt]

Can’t wait for the “Oops, all 4-8 rifles pack”!

[long spade]

I feel like that would catch so much flak

[stray basalt]

It’llllll be fineeeee.

[humble tinsel]

I wouldn’t buy it

Would be the first I don’t buy

[long spade]

Famous last words

[long spade]

Same

[midnight moon]

There are already a few redundant packs

Imo

[long spade]

At this point 4-8 is so oversaturated and power creep keeps ruining the fun ones that I'm just sick of it

[stray basalt]

Quick shout out to https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1234163261696512082 (for all your class 9 needs) and my https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1242618090706178089 (for all your mountain hunting and unique class range needs).

[midnight moon]

I didn't get the moradi casue I thought it was ridiculous

[long spade]

Honestly, if I had known that the .308 bolt action was coming as soon as it did I wouldn't have bought the modern weapon pack

[long spade]

I did. I just wanted a lever action that actually worked

[midnight moon]

Exactly. The ollson is fine

I didn't get it though cause I Didn't see the point over the 303 or 30 06

[humble tinsel]

7mm bolt >

[long spade]

The olsons iron sights and animations are my favorite in the entire game. It actually feels like a proper old school hunting rifle

[midnight moon]

Before the bolt, 7mm bolt is king

[long spade]

OK, the bolt action .308 and 7mm had beautiful animations and a real "made to hunt" feel but the 338? Why? You had two beautiful rifles in useful calibers and you chose an awkwardly huge benchrest rifle for the one that should have been the most useful one? Why?

[stray basalt]

Could’ve used some real power .458 Lott, .405 Win, .375, etc

[timber juniper]

[stray basalt]

I’d love to see more of classics rifles get ported over now that I think about it, might make a suggestion about it.

[long spade]

The over under 9.3x74r. Ammo is already in the game and it's massively useful but rarely used

[alpine heart]

"None handguns" hurts so much 😭

[devout zodiac]

Is there a possibility that the new rifle will be changed to 6-9? I'm still not too happy with it being 4-8

And I really wanted to use it for buffaloes

[long spade]

We hope, but we do not know

[dense plinth]

I sincerely doubt it

[long spade]

I think the gun not being able to take class 9 animals has caused more trouble than Tigers did. Nobody seems happy with it being just 4-8

[lean quarry]

We have been complaining about the abundance of 4-8 rifles for a while, and they go ahead and release another one. It's like putting salt on the wound. I hope jaxy addresses this next stream.

[lone forge]

I'm back

[plain yoke]

Don't understand why folks are so "Wounded" about this. Maybe we have so many 4-8 rifles because that's the class that the majority of players are hunting for?

[long spade]

9 rifles in 4-8 about to be 10 of they don't change it.

The problem is they focus so much on 4-8 that we have fewer options for other classes. We just want something different for awhile

[plain yoke]

I get that but my personal opinion is we have too many weapons at this point period. Too many weapons that aren't model in any realistic way at all other than cosmetic. So they need to focus on other things besides weapons for a while.... So what everyone is upset about is we have too many cosmetic options in 4-8 and they want more cosmetic weapon options for class 9 ....

Its funny I look at the weapons talk thread in feedback and I dont see anyone specifically talking about this ??? https://discord.com/channels/393040947006406657/1241002536262172795

[long spade]

Okay? Call them cosmetics but there are differences between ammo. Whatever was the latest version of each caliber will perform better thann the first.

Look at the 45-70, it got a new pistol but the "ammo changes" did not carry over to the rifle from the base game. #1217303106837151794

[plain yoke]

Im sorry to rant ... just got triggered by someone using the word "wounded" over this .... Its a silly thing to be "wounded" over ...

[long spade]

People are stupid ,what do you expect?

Either way, it's not some massive crime but it is furiously annoying that there's not much difference in our weapon choices and as much work as they put into every other aspect of the game it always feels like they made it look good assigned random stats and went back to modeling individual hairs

[plain yoke]

the whole situation with Ammo loads is a mess and not realistic at all. But there is some semblance of balance in it all ... I see people arguing correctly from a realistic viewpoint about the real world capabilities of these rounds but EW has not been realistic from the beginning ....

I dont see them changing at this point ....

[long spade]

I mean, any company will change or go bankrupt if their customers are passed enough

[plain yoke]

I think if they tried to change at this point and go completely realistic it would be a massive fail .... People have their favorite weapons and rounds and if they don't live up to their expectations they will never be happy. At least the way it is now you have numerous weapons/ammo loads that all more or less have the same capabilities ....

[rigid river]

Only thing you could do is make the variance a bit wider within the groups, but then people would complain about that. People also ignore 'soft stats' like 'how fast does the rifle get back on target after shooting?'

[plain yoke]

This may also be a design choice because of engine limitations .... This game engine my have issues with modeling accurate ballistics so they dont even try ....

[stiff leaf]

just make a macro to negate recoil and other undesirable gun functions

[dense plinth]

we just got a super good class 7-9 rifle 😮

[rigid river]

What could have been done was the Matchlock treatment

[long spade]

It wouldn't be so bad if they had similar stats, older guns like the base game weapons just do not have the same stats as newer weapons, if they want them to Bala ce they need to properly update all the calibers to be similar

[rigid river]

.243 has entered the chat

[dense plinth]

the ranger is still one of the best guns ingame

ye

the 270.. yea

[long spade]

Not everyone cares for ARs and the .300 is not a caliber that most people would consider for class 9 animals in the real world, it's a medium bore and used mostly for plains animals in Africa, illegal for cap Buffalo and lions in most places too

[long spade]

The one they didn't nerf to oblivion to sell dlc

[dense plinth]

I dunno man, i feel like you're grasping at straws here

The 7mm still holds value really well, it's just a single shot

same goes for the .338

[midnight moon]

Go away janny

[lone forge]

K

: (

[dense plinth]

The basegame shotgun is also still one of the best ingame

[rigid river]

Also true

Bows are perhaps the most affected by DLC

[midnight moon]

Couldn't care less about the amount of 4 - 8s, just give us more variety. 375 ahem

[dense plinth]

i do not use bows at all to be honest

[lone forge]

We do not need any wannabe snipers anymore but I love myself some experimental weapons

[rigid river]

Give them a go, they can be great fun. Totally different stype

[lone forge]

What about a pellet gun or an air rifle?

[dense plinth]

we got one of those

[midnight moon]

Very rewarding playstyle

[rigid river]

You mean 'why not just take the bow' rifle? xD

[dense plinth]

i don't have the patience

[midnight moon]

Animals don't run unless they're close, easy to pile up kills

[dense plinth]

it's not for me

i do love missions, and for them you have to use a bow ocaisionally, i just don't like it.

[midnight moon]

Often useful when you don't want to scare further animals afield

[midnight moon]

Are you German?

[lone forge]

Kinda

[dense plinth]

es tut mir leit

[lone forge]

I'm was born in Berlin and lived they're until I was 9

[midnight moon]

Cool

[rigid river]

All I want from an update is a filterable PoI map

Just... make it layers and toggleable

[dense plinth]

what's a "pol map" ?

[midnight moon]

I was in Deutschland last year

[lone forge]

It was kinda tragic I was born at a very young age

[rigid river]

I want to find all my boar zones, just the boars

[dense plinth]

i understand now, that would be great actually !

[dense plinth]

me too, me too

[lone forge]

Sad happens to many people

[dense plinth]

😁

[mighty dove]

It was tragic that I spent my first few years of life doing nothing when I should have bought a house

[dense plinth]

houses were certainly cheaper back then, missed oppertunity for sure

[midnight moon]

Imagine affording a house

[mighty dove]

I was 2 years old just starting to learn my abcs and colors when I should have been looking for affordable housing

[midnight moon]

Wait...you guys know your abcs?

[brittle pumice]

knowing your abcs is for nerds 🙄

[wraith gale]

It’s the keyboard order duh

[rigid river]

That's aze

[left adder]

holy crap blue sheep daimond looks insane

in the short

on #📢︴game-news

[midnight moon]

Who leaked

[left adder]

im assuming its a diamond

or big gold

[midnight moon]

Oh true

[left adder]

this thing is a unit

[finite wagon]

Looks like you got your wish!!

[mighty dove]

Uh, but that sheep isn’t even blue

[left adder]

oh mb gimme 1 min ill fix it

[midnight moon]

Looks good

[finite wagon]

And the buck isnt even black but you dont see anyone bitchin

[left adder]

this better?

[midnight moon]

Don't you mean brownbuck?

[finite wagon]

Ur so right

[mighty dove]

I am bitching right now

Wait how is that not censored

[left adder]

cos its a doing word

[finite wagon]

MY EXACT THOUGHT TOO WHEN WHAT I SENT WENT THROUGH

[midnight moon]

Because dog

[left adder]

dog is female

[finite wagon]

Anyways i might draw one

[midnight moon]

What else do you call a female dog

[finite wagon]

We'll see

[mighty dove]

99% of the time we are not talking about dogs

[finite wagon]

I do need to draw more ungulates soo

[left adder]

make sure to show us

[finite wagon]

I will

[mighty dove]

But anyway yeah that sheep needs to be a baby blue actually

[left adder]

a female dog

[midnight moon]

Don't be facetious!

[finite wagon]

Doe dog

(Funny)

[left adder]

here u go

baby blue sheep

[midnight moon]

🤡

[left adder]

when can i get hired by EW to make animals

i think ive just proven myself

[midnight moon]

Why does the sheep have dark spots

Budget photo editing

[left adder]

the paint didnt go there

yeah likke 2 seconds and done

[midnight moon]

2c per hr

Dirt cheap rates. One happy customer @mighty dove

[midnight moon]

buck of colour

im chuffed about the fox

[left adder]

do we have any wood grain thing like this

[glacial flame]

Dirty deeds, done dirt cheap! 🎸

[left adder]

gtg guys cya

[midnight moon]

Yes I got to sleep

[finite wagon]

No way

[midnight moon]

That's an aqua sheep

[finite wagon]

Its blue enough

[long spade]

Had to go out and finish some yard work, trailer

Flinter did mention the blackbucks got to use the brown skin on both male and female now when they showed it on stream

I like it, looks like he ones I saw in texas

[brittle pumice]

aqua is just fancy light blue

[long spade]

Nah Aqua is useless

[mighty dove]

I cackled

[brisk inlet]

Blue sheep horns look so cool

[long spade]

Barasingha looked incredible

[left adder]

even the yaks

[brave grove]

Might be most excited for the yaks. Jernberg vs. a herd is in my early plans.

[bitter matrix]

11 days until Sundarpatan

[vivid cosmos]

They showed the diamonds and a brown blackbuck on Instagram

[west wadi]

Was it the same as the YouTube short?

[vivid cosmos]

Very likely I’m just waking up

Yeah it is

[lean quarry]

This new summary video is so good. I am so hyped.

[uneven bloom]

male brown blackbuck real????

[bitter matrix]

Okay, I’m exclusively going for a dime blue sheep first and foremost

That rack is nothing short of incredible to say the least

[woeful hound]

11 more days till sunderpatan !!

[woeful hound]

i'm prolly gona go for dime tahr

[bitter matrix]

I beat you to saying that by literally an hour😭

[woeful hound]

first thing i do on that map is find tahr zones

[woeful hound]

Lol

[bitter matrix]

Copycat😑

[woeful hound]

nuh uh

[worldly shard]

https://tenor.com/view/katakuri-one-piece-gif-25604870

[bitter matrix]

I’ve count down the days every day😑

[woeful hound]

same

[bitter matrix]

I do before you do tho

[woeful hound]

i'm so excited

[bitter matrix]

Every day😑

[finite wagon]

Yup

[woeful hound]

mhm

[bitter matrix]

At 6-9 am sharp

No later than 9 on any day

[woeful hound]

i'm staying up all night on the 17th

[bitter matrix]

And it’s 9:23 rn

[finite wagon]

I sadly wont be able to hunt sundarpatan just yet because we most likely wont have the pc moved to the new house by then just yet

[woeful hound]

and as soon as i see a purchase sign on sunderpatan

i'll buy it

on the 18th

[woeful hound]

sad

[finite wagon]

I'm gonna buy it too i just wont be able to play it lol

[woeful hound]

i'm building a pc

[finite wagon]

Oh i could never i dont know anything about technology

[woeful hound]

rip

[bitter matrix]

I have that fiber full gig, saved back 50 in the gaming spending account, we chillin, I’m gonna try to be the first non early access player on the map, buuut I don’t know if my Xbox will be chill like that

[finite wagon]

Its my sisters pc also so like, i really need to get my hands on a pc of my own

[woeful hound]

same

bc

[finite wagon]

But that'll be at a later date i have better priorities rn

[woeful hound]

my xbox

overheats

and kicks me out the game alot

so annoying

[bitter matrix]

But the question is, will your game only take 5 minutes to update?

[woeful hound]

ooo

thats a good point

[bitter matrix]

Gon take me max 5 minutes so I may be able to get there even if my stuff messes up

[woeful hound]

and i'm in pakistan rn

the net here is ass

it'll take atleast 4 hours for my game to upd

but i can buy off the website

xbox website

[bitter matrix]

I wish they’d add preorders ngl

[woeful hound]

same

[bitter matrix]

Would be nice so I could add it to my auto download list

[woeful hound]

yea

but it takes 2 mili second for it download

my net ain't that slow

they dlc's take like a sec or 2

[bitter matrix]

This DLC is gon be at least 20 gig

You’re prolly gonna be sitting tight for a while

[woeful hound]

naw

[bitter matrix]

Emerald was almost 30…

This is almost guaranteed to be a 30 gig update

[woeful hound]

really ?

i never noticed

[bitter matrix]

Yes

[woeful hound]

emerald also only took a sec or 2

but i was in california

and my nets better

their

[bitter matrix]

Just the Layton lodge was 50 gig

[woeful hound]

on vacation rn

[woeful hound]

GYAT DAM

[bitter matrix]

Yea I said the same thing when I saw that size

I was like “they’re hiding something in this update”

Still don’t know what they were hiding either, 50 gig for a lodge when a map runs max 40 gig was crazy

[woeful hound]

yea

ima go watch yt

@bitter matrix wana play hunter later

[bitter matrix]

Sure, just dm me

[woeful hound]

k

[warm nexus]

IMO, they need to allow people to pick and choose content to download.

Yeah, it kind of screws over multiplayer, but just disable multiplayer on maps the person hasn't downloaded.

[vale grotto]

Its because each update you have to download the whole game again I believe. (I may be wrong)

[uneven bloom]

Steam's anti-corruption measures do in fact require the re-downloading of the entire game

though apparently not all the time

as download sizes sometimes vary by the individual

[bitter matrix]

I don’t think this is true being that NE was 24 gig and the game itself is 77 for me

At least not true for Xbox anyways

I dunno about steam

[vale grotto]

No its probably only steam

[lone forge]

Who tf has money for a computer that can run COTW these days

[bitter matrix]

I meannnn I could but a 300$ Xbox vs a 1500$ computer is just ridiculous

Not to mention would have to spend another 500 on games alone to be able to match my Xbox catalog that I’ve spent 10+ years expanding.

[vale grotto]

Me....

[lone forge]

Well I don't and I don't know many people who can

I paid 150€ for my ps4

[vale grotto]

Mhm, I do have an xbox but I just cannot cope on consoles

[lone forge]

And another 250 for games including all cotw dlcs over the years

[vale grotto]

My xbox is a good 5-6 years old I swear, I haven't used it in like 1.5 years

[bitter matrix]

I got COTW when it launched, bought all the dlcs over the years, but here’s where it gets bad, I have at least 10k spread across CoD, Apex, GTA V, Fortnite, and all of games I own which in the 700s rn

[lone forge]

Holy y'all got money

[bitter matrix]

It’s crazy what saving a little money in the youth can do

[warm nexus]

The maps are released as DLC. Normally DLC don't require you to download the base game and all other DLC too...

[warm nexus]

I got a gaming PC last fall. Works pretty good, and I need a PC, and I only game a few times a week, so gaming is secondary for me.

[uneven bloom]

But the DLCs also come with updates, to add support for multiplayer.

[warm nexus]

Those should have been released as updates to the base game, IMO.

[uneven bloom]

DLC not required to join said DLC map

[bitter matrix]

Steam has it weird, they gotta download like 90 gig at a time😭🙏

[uneven bloom]

and the update is released at the same time as the DLC

[warm nexus]

Yeah, then you get to install the DLC and a smaller update (because we don't need to download 8 other maps that we already had downloaded).

[stoic echo]

i forgot about the update tbh 😂

[bitter matrix]

Crazy we still don’t have patch notes and think this will be the best update ever

Those notes will solely determine the future of the game.

[uneven bloom]

oh "best update ever" would only be a thing for me (and more than a few other people) if we'd gotten something other than 4-8 rifle #9

[bitter matrix]

But I dont think they’ll ever pull a NE situation ever again, they retconned that update real quick

[uneven bloom]

you mean the GO moose situation?

[bitter matrix]

No the spooking situation

Crack a twig 300m out and they’re spooking from it like bruh

[uneven bloom]

ohhh rifle spook range

[bitter matrix]

And they made the map literally unhuntable

[shrewd shell]

Best update ever would be highlighting rare furs on the harvest screen.

[bitter matrix]

Like I said, still haven’t seen patch notes so that may be coming👀

[uneven bloom]

the way you phrased that confused me, because I was thinking "but we still have NEM?"

[stray basalt]

I’m just here for the Blue sheep lol.

[bitter matrix]

They look so friggin good

Like my goodness, didn’t have to pop off like that king🔥🔥

[plain yoke]

Have they ever given patch notes early ..... Probably wont get patch notes until embargo is lifted ... I'm guessing those will drop on the 13th

[vale grotto]

We don't normally get patch notes till release.

[plain yoke]

safte to say I think that CC's are playing with the Updates as we speak ...

[bitter matrix]

We won’t get patch notes until literally 5 minutes before launch

Because early access is still a huge part of patches

[vale grotto]

They will have the update but they cannot share anything till 5pm BST on the 14th I think it is

[bitter matrix]

Yea I thought they were changing it and giving them less time with the map, but they gave them more time instead!?!?

[vale grotto]

Yer they get the weekend before to release content so yer the 14th.

[vale grotto]

No the same, its normally around 4 days they get.

[bitter matrix]

I thought they get it for a full week but it was 4 days that they have content embargo

Cuz those 4 days you’re supposed to pre record some content

Or something like that

[vale grotto]

They already have it to make content but they cannot release it for another week

[bitter matrix]

So when will their early access end

Cuz jaxy said early access will be next week on Tuesdays stream

[vale grotto]

The 18th when the update happens

[quick grail]

was just about to ask when saw you say that Josh lol

[bitter matrix]

So they got almost two weeks of early access? Something’s not adding up

[vale grotto]

Say which part?

[bitter matrix]

Two weeks is not the normal early access period.

[vale grotto]

They may not have it but I swear they do. If they don't they will get it by tuesday

[quick grail]

about when creators can post

[vale grotto]

Oh the 14th, normally the friday before release

[quick grail]

ye, :)

[bitter matrix]

They may have it, but if they do then they’ve been given more time with the map than ever before, that’s all I’m sayin🙏

[quick grail]

looking forward to trying to find a tiger, prob gonna taxidermy any one i get haha

[plain yoke]

They have the full update + new map + update changes now. This allows them to make content early ... However they are under NDA not to post or speak of anything until the 14th when the NDA is lifted

[vale grotto]

Yer, I maybe wrong and they will get it on tuesday

[vale grotto]

Lol, I am guessing its the bottom half of the map

[bitter matrix]

JJ they do not have the full update. Please do not say that that is simply misinformation.

If there is a bug with the map and the CCs show us it will most likely get patched and be in the notes by launch

[plain yoke]

How do you know they dont have it?

[bitter matrix]

Because early access is meant to iron out issues and bugs

[vale grotto]

It won't be the update we get as theres things what will be tweaked

[warm nexus]

I don't think EW does that.

For an update of this size, 2 weeks isn't enough to be meant to work out issues.

[vale grotto]

They have before I believe.

[plain yoke]

Okay I stand corrected they may have the proposed update but bugs may cause changes before the final release

[bitter matrix]

That’s literally what they say early access is for

Is to game test

[warm nexus]

That's what internal testing is for.

[bitter matrix]

Otherwise we’d have the map right now.

[ebon gate]

i think they mean more game breaking bugs that would be an immediate hinderence to release

[warm nexus]

Again, 2 weeks from being reported is really fast to turn around a game breaking bug.

[bitter matrix]

Internal testing can only do so much, these CCs push the game beyond what the devs can sometimes

[warm nexus]

Probably the only thing they'd be able to find is stuff like "I get stuck in a hole at X/Y coordinate".

[plain yoke]

No early access is to give them time to make content .... It may also include bug reports as well but based on EW record of fixing bugs those might just be logged and not actually fixed unless they are seriously game breaking

[warm nexus]

Stuff that's irritating, but not game breaking.

[bitter matrix]

When their entire team is in it then yes, also they want the general thoughts on certain things and want to see if those changes will be welcomed or not

We have had features in updates get dumped in early access because the opinions on it were negative

[warm nexus]

Yeah, more user feedback type things is more what it would be with a 2 week notice.

Stuff that they could toggle off, but still release the update.

[plain yoke]

so I wouldnt call my statement misinformation ... just requiring more clarification

[bitter matrix]

I mean early access have uncovered visual bugs that required pre launch fixes before

It has proven useful to hold the early access period.

[bitter matrix]

Yea, just don’t want people to see the early access notes and think that it will be final

[plain yoke]

@bitter matrix the primary purpose of early access is for content creation ..... that why CC's get it ... If they find bugs I'm sure they can report them ....

[bitter matrix]

Right, but to say that it’s the finalized version of the update is where it gets shady

They do ask these CCs to push these maps to the limits

[ebon gate]

EA is more than likely for pre-release bug reporting, advertising (via CCs) and to show users what the map will be like so they can decide if theyd want to buy upon release or not

[plain yoke]

Even on the 18th there will still be bugs .... but the patch notes will still basicly be the same ....

[bitter matrix]

I doubt it

I really think we’ll go into early access with the new gun still at 4-8 but will end up tweaked by release

That would be a huge change

[ebon gate]

unless they publish the patch notes now, nothing is finalised until release, because EA will also show known bugs that cant be fixed prior to release

[warm nexus]

That would probably be a 2-character change in a config file.

[ebon gate]

nothing is easy in programming

you could change one thing and break 5 others trying

[plain yoke]

Huge is very subjective ..... and all they have to do is chnage one number to make it ethical for class 9 ... they literally dont have to do anything else because even as is it will still kill class 9 just not ethically

[bitter matrix]

May be a small change to them, massive change to us

[bitter matrix]

I mean some people have written off this update already because of the poor classification of the gun😪

Killed it for em

[plain yoke]

A litte dramatic dont you think to write of the whole update for that?

[bitter matrix]

Yea but that’s them not me

[warm nexus]

I'd be willing to bet that they have a config file listing each gun with the stuff that lets them calculate trajectory and states what range it's good for. The only unique part of the gun is what you can see; the modeling.

[bitter matrix]

I’m still here for a reason😅

[warm nexus]

Source: I've worked on similar systems.

[sudden ginkgo]

tell me about it.

[bitter matrix]

We could also see behavioral changes come by final update, we have no idea just how aggressive and aggravating the tigers could be

And shoot they could just be too much or not enough at all

[plain yoke]

Now if they were litterally putting in rainbow tigers then that would be a reason to revolt ....

[warm nexus]

That is likely hard-coded and could very well be difficult to tweak, because it is unique to tigers. Or maybe they put the effort into they just need to scale a number up/down. I don't know.

[ebon gate]

theyd still have to adjust the guns power, accuracy manually to adjust for the power (class) increase, and then run that through testing. Its been noted the new gun is already EXTREMELY recoil sensitive irl and theyd have to recreate that in the game

[uneven bloom]

the new gun is admittedly just going to be a shelf-warmer in a Saseka lodge for me

not a fan of it going to be unavoidable inventory clutter via just doing the story

[bitter matrix]

Difficult or not if they end up bugged or just not satisfactory to them I really think they’ll pull through and change it

[warm nexus]

theyd still have to adjust the guns power
Not necessarily. Being class 9 doesn't necessarily mean extra power, and if it is, they'd just increase the number that sets the initial muzzle velocity.

[bitter matrix]

By that understanding you’re telling me a .308 should be class 9 cuz it has the power to kill a lion?

[warm nexus]

the new gun is already EXTREMELY recoil sensitive irl
It already has a nasty kick in-game. I don't think they'd need to change that, but if they did, then yes, that could be a pain. The modelling/animation is probably unique to each gun, but I don't know animation stuff, so it might not be.

[ebon gate]

i dont think a class 9 gun wouldnt be overkill to a class 4, without either being pretty weak to class 9 (which would still make it as bad as a class 8 ingame)

theyd have to completely redo the guns class range

[uneven bloom]

7mm is 4-9...

[plain yoke]

I agree in coding small things can become big things but in this case the gun will already kil class 9 as is. All they have to do is change 4-8 to 4-9 so that you get the full reward for killing class 9

[ebon gate]

true but its pretty weak against class 9 like i suggested

unless its an upclose shot

[midnight valve]

Again guns should just follow the system classic does it.

[plain yoke]

We havent actually used it ... so that's speculation

[uneven bloom]

Two completely different games

[ebon gate]

the only easy thing i see them doing is just porting the damage from the 7mm then

[uneven bloom]

COTW has its own ballistics system

[midnight valve]

The class system has never made sense in COTW regardless, all It does is create in-fighting on what calibres should be ethical on what.

[uneven bloom]

making it "just like Classic" would require EXTENSIVE code-rewiring

[bitter matrix]

They just need to reclass the animals and reclassify the guns accordingly

[plain yoke]

If they make any change at all it will just be giving full ethical reward for killing class 9 ..... that littlerally all they need to do to apease the masses

[ebon gate]

cotw is like 7 years old, youd have to completely gut the ballistics system for that which could eat up YEARS of their time (in response to making it like classic)

[bitter matrix]

And maybe take some of the community’s help with it for once and not feel like they know everything without ever even shooting these weapons…

[midnight valve]

Classic pretty much runs like that on a similar vain each species has its sort of general 'class' then If an IRL weapon is used on said animal Its also added to said species.

Almost all deer share the same ethicality for big game rifles, shot guns vary on buckshot & slugs.

[bitter matrix]

Wouldn’t make sense

For example, in India and Nepal most ppl hunt with AKs

But yet we have .300 ars

We don’t have a single AK platform(which is diabolical)

[plain yoke]

There is no hunting in india .... and I wouldnt be surprised if AK's and AR's are not allowed in Nepal

[bitter matrix]

That’s all they got😭🙏

[uneven bloom]

yeah hunting is a big cultural no-no in India

in present day, at least

[midnight valve]

Model or variation of gun is obsolete, calibre is what is important lmho at least for a game.

[bitter matrix]

Ur the king of misinformation

They do hunt in India just deem trophy hunting unethical

[midnight valve]

game obviously isn't super duper realistic but the current class system will always be weird in my eyes.

and It causes the weird meta of 4-8 / 4-9 as well rendering quite a lot of more niche guns useless, just like this upcoming 4-8 😔

[plain yoke]

what we are doing in this game is sport hunting .... so no misinformation there

[bitter matrix]

But we’re not heading to India are we?

We are headed to Nepal 👀

[midnight valve]

But yes why india isnt ever done in hunting games and why countries next to it get picked.

[bitter matrix]

Just stating that when they do hunt in those countries most ppl have AK platforms

[midnight valve]

Almost identical species, intertwined culture without the back lash.

[bitter matrix]

Nepal is similar but also very different from India, I want to experience all of the Hindi cultures some day

[midnight valve]

Yes wouldnt discredit that.... after all I'm a scot I defend my 'country' from the english with a passion.....

[plain yoke]

Simple google search

Which weapons are prohibited in India?

Prohibited and Non-Prohibited Bore

303, 7.62mm; 410,380; . 455; . 45 rimless; 9mm is specified as Prohibited Bore under The Arms Act of 1962. Smooth bore guns having barrel of less than 20" in length are also specified as Prohibited Bore guns.

military AK platform is 7.62mm

[bitter matrix]

Okay but we aren’t talking military

I have one chambered in 5.56

[stray basalt]

The AI overviews suck ass dude.

[bitter matrix]

Brandon Herrera has one chambered in .50 BMG

You can have an Ak platform and shoot a different caliber, what makes an AK an AK is the chamber its self and its unique firing mechanism and sequences.

And in that part of the world AK platforms are very common for many different caliber.

[plain yoke]

From a citizen of India

Gun laws are very strict in India and owning an assault rifle like AK47 is strictly prohibited as nobody gets a license for it. Hence owning an AK 47 is illegal and would land you in trouble. Only single shot rifles and revolvers are allowed to be owned by a civilian, that too with proper documents and license.

[desert nacelle]

That’s not hunting. That’s ag culling. Can’t eat it or keep the trophy.

[vague mesa]

What animal you guys exited for the most?(other than tiger because people love it.)

[vale grotto]

Yak or Snow leopards

[proper wedge]

Excited for barasingha and blue sheep

[tacit hamlet]

Yak

[jovial grail]

I’d say the Nilgai is the one I’m the most hyped for.

[stray basalt]

I’m just here for the Tahr and Blue Sheep lol.

The Yaks and tigers are a plus.

[proper wedge]

Sundarpatan Side Mission: Boop a Snow Leopard

[hollow tundra]

blue sheep, tahr, and nilgai

[plain yoke]

Ill definitely have my first tiger and snow leopard mounted ... regardless of level or fur rarity

[regal briar]

Damn i need to get my hands on diamond water buffalo before remaster

[stray basalt]

It’ll definitely be a hunt to remember.

[timber juniper]

Awwwwww

[west wadi]

Wildlife Protection Act of 1972

As far as I know, the only species legal to hunt there are boars and nilgai

[timber juniper]

And monky🐒

[plain yoke]

Can a boop em with a 7mm?

Nah wouldnt do that head shot would ruin the trophy

[west wadi]

Yes, and monkeys

Thanks

[stray basalt]

If you want like 5 species… India is the map idea for you!

[timber juniper]

We need monky in cotw!

[stray basalt]

Baboon bow hunt🔥🔥🔥

[plain yoke]

got to solve the tree climbing issue first

[timber juniper]

They would probably have to rewrite the hole code

[stray basalt]

Not necessarily. Monkeys spend a surprising amount of time on the ground.

[plain yoke]

they do but head to the trees for protection ....

[timber juniper]

But if they don't climb it's bad

0/10

[stray basalt]

You don’t know that.

[timber juniper]

I do

[stray basalt]

They could make it kinda like rabbits where they flee to the “hole”.

[plain yoke]

I suppose certain trees could be designated as protection .... kind of like rabbit holes and once in the tree they are safe .... you would only get one shot at a pack .... they are incredibly fast

[timber juniper]

They can get inside of dead trees

[stray basalt]

Actually, now that I think about it since they would be on a brand new map, said climbing points wouldn’t be hard. The whole tree thing stems from squirrel backfills to old maps, not new maps.

[plain yoke]

not terribly excited about squirrels but monkeys would be a challenge

[timber juniper]

🐒🐵

[stray basalt]

Fast, hard to hit, and very tasty… what’s not to love!

[plain yoke]

As long as they werent alerted you could shoot them .... but the moment they went alert they would run for the trees

would be a challenge

they would go from Alert to flee in like 2 or 3 seconds

would probably be best hunted with a shotgun .... easier to hit while running

[static imp]

Fast hard and tasty

[west wadi]

If they go past legality, then it could have the most out of any map

Which they have by adding tigers, snow leopards, and barasingha thankfully

🤞Himalayan monal, satyr tragopan, blue peafowl

[uneven bloom]

I think they've recently said no an India map due to wanting to respect the culture

[west wadi]

Nepal is better anyways

[timber juniper]

We need jungle and monkey 🐒

[west wadi]

Nepal has jungles

[timber juniper]

But not Sundar patan

[west wadi]

Doesn’t it?

[timber juniper]

I goes we already have jungles in vurhonga but no one hunts there

[west wadi]

The South side of the map is jungle

[timber juniper]

If you mean Nepal then I would say it's a lot more like the awaro

A

[static imp]

Kinda

[west wadi]

That has jungles, too

Not equatorial jungles, but temperate jungles are jungles nonetheless

[timber juniper]

Emerald cost also has jungles

[west wadi]

Yes

[timber juniper]

But no monkeys?

We need thwm

[west wadi]

I can go without monkeys

Not very impressive or pretty

Not to mention they’d need arboreal mechanics

Baboons could be neat, but I don’t think macaques would be fun to hunt. You know in the cities they steal and beg for food

[stray basalt]

I’d like to see some kind of penalty for shotgunning them while they aren’t in a fleeing state, you would be able to use .22 headshots to get full integrity however.

[timber juniper]

Imagen they come up to you and you have an option of giving them a treat

I would say cotw needs some new animations

They need to have more animations between the animals and the players

They should take inspiration of rdr2s first person mode and the animations between players and animals

[uneven bloom]

No, we don't really need that in a hunting game

[timber juniper]

We do

It would make the gameplay much more fluid

And not if you get hit you die

This looks so funny

[midnight moon]

it does

at least it is accurate though

[midnight moon]

id love a UK map purely to see the landscape around me in a cotw map

[chilly mauve]

Scotland would be good

but probably not at this point because it wouldn't really bring anything new

[warm nexus]

They could add fox hunting with horses and dogs.

[midnight moon]

it wouldnt be an interesting map theres no lying to ones self that it would be groundbreaking tiger level

[chilly mauve]

exactly

[midnight moon]

i think everyone would love a hunting map set in their home area

i just want to see my home area lol

[chilly mauve]

I live in scotland and I'll happily admit it'd be bad

[warm nexus]

Not me. I play to see other parts of the world.

[midnight moon]

id love to see the story villain be rishi and the rest of the tories

[chilly mauve]

lmao

[midnight moon]

they've always been from the baden family

nigel farage can be the warden

[stray basalt]

No…? I can do that irl.

[uneven bloom]

reminder that political talk is a no-go here

[chilly mauve]

oh yeah sorry

[midnight moon]

😬

muntjacs are a funny case in the UK

buggers did a runner from woburn now theyre all over the place

[west wadi]

I’m from Illinois and as an Illinoisan, it would make a terrible map

[midnight moon]

а Ук мап? агреед

oops wrong keyboard

a uk map? agreed

[stray basalt]

Agreed, it would be 90% agricultural fields.

[midnight moon]

a zsl whipsnade map on the other hand (with shootable animals)

[west wadi]

Lol

Werewolf hunting in London

[chilly mauve]

they need a map in new york city where you hunt rats and pigeons

[midnight moon]

london is a bizarre place

paid it a visit 3 weeks ago, never again

[west wadi]

How so?

[midnight moon]

amongst the crowds of americans, a fake monk who offered us peace in exchange for a donation, the stench of fecal matter as the train entered central london, the freezing cold at 7am and unbearable heat at 12. We had seen all the touristy sh ite by midday. A rageddy fella with a grisly beard, loaf of bread and an army of pigeons. a 90 year old woman driving a 1950's car "one owner from new" and a nonchalant medical student asking me and my friend "excuse me lads, you wouldnt have any weed"

ill stick to northamptonshire thank you

[versed canyon]

Just watched Where the crawdads sing....would love a map in the marshes of north Carolina now 😅🤣

[distant veldt]

So your dog is growling and then you find a Bengal tiger is charging at you, what will you do?
a. shoot it with high risk of ruining the head trophy
b. accept death

[long spade]

We got Mississippi Acres a while back, ain't much difference tbh.

Less crawdad jambalaya in Carolina though

[versed canyon]

True 😅

[long spade]

Mississippi has better food and more mosquitoes (them bugs might not seem like a good thing, but they keep 60yo nudists away)

Not a good morning on our vacation that one

[stray basalt]

.470.

[worn aurora]

imma blast it with the 10mm at that point screw the trophy

[long spade]

I picked up 200 rounds of 470 for this map. That rifle isn't leaving my load out on that map

[stray basalt]

I have like 40 soft points and 40 FMJ’s, need more.

[long spade]

I stacked like 200 each, I like it for occasionally hunting buffalo but it'll be my go to class 9 fro for the map. It feels like a good fit there

[stray basalt]

Definitely. I can’t wait to see what EW has in store for us next dangerous game wise.

[west wadi]

I’m wondering if I ought to have two loadouts for the jungle and the alpine

[scarlet bluff]

why not just go with one versatile loadout

that's what i'm gonna do when setting up for tahr

7mm bolt, 243 pistol, 22, 16ga, and tents

shotgun really won't be needed on this map though tbh

i just always like to have one

[west wadi]

I’m the kind of guy that goes for thematic loadouts

Like using Grankin’s shotgun, the muzzleloader, and the Mosin on Medved

So, I’ll want to use the .470, Gahendra, and 30/30 on Nepal, but I came up with that with the Southern jungles in mind

I doubt those guns’ short ranges would be any use in Himal

[peak cedar]

I usually just run 300 AR, 308 AR, 243 rifle and 22 LR

[scarlet bluff]

i usually just go with a 5 gun loadout that covers each class

unless i'm doing something else like setting up for a grind

or grinding

[midnight moon]

мы сет

my set up is

zarza .22lr, zarza .223, zarza .308 and arzyna .300 mag tactical

[lone forge]

Day #4 of asking for gamebirds on Nepal!

[west wadi]

Difference is you tell the truth, but Tsoukalos is a hack

[lone forge]

True

[timber juniper]

thought it wouled say "gay" birds

[quaint lintel]

Get ready, the number of "Day #" might exceed 100

[lone forge]

Oh yeah 200 is easily possible sadly

[long spade]

Tigers make some noise while they stalk you right?

I don't need the rdr2 cougar heart attack BS anymore. Those cats turned it into a horror game right quick

[hollow tundra]

they growl at you, but you cant tell which direction its coming from

[long spade]

Better than the cougars then, they just hit you from behind

[weak smelt]

place a tripod and get in it

works for wolves

[uneven bloom]

oh I'm going to be living in a tripod on this map

[long spade]

I wonder, if you down a tiger how long will the respawn timer be? You might end up catching a tiger from long range and buy yourself some time to relax

[lone forge]

Imma need big ass gun for this map I still can't decide if I take the king 470. Nitro or the miller 10g with slugs

[wraith gale]

Sleep or menu?

Possibly

[long spade]

The 470 was invented for hunting in India after the British government banned .450/400s because the bullets could theoretically be used for stolen martini Henry rifles by rebels

[lone forge]

Cool

I'm already hyped for the Tuesday in two weeks

I decided to not watch content that's not from EW pre release to keep the hype up

But I might ask somebody if they'res drink zones on certain animals and what the new multi mounts are

[jovial jolt]

Probably like usual

How when u kill an animal

When u exit the map all kills respawn

[karmic tartan]

(Subtly excited for g1 tahr)

[west wadi]

I’m not sure why people are excited for that one

I can get being disappointed at the lack of game birds, but the tahr has probably been the most suggested animal since turkey

[jovial jolt]

Yeah tahr are amazing

[karmic tartan]

Tuesdays don’t come fast enough

[vale grotto]

No, but atleast its friday, even tho it feels like a wednesday

[west wadi]

What’s going on this Tuesday?

[lone forge]

They'll show the tahr go

[vale grotto]

g1 reveal and then on friday its CC embargo lift.

[lone forge]

Jaxy said it last tuesday

[vale grotto]

Ngl if the tahr look bad then its 1 grind for them and never again

[lone forge]

Also if I'm allowed to hype y'all but today is the 8th of June which means only one 10 more days left

[midnight moon]

Jaxy told me I have to wait to see the animal class. The cheeky man

[vale grotto]

Mhm.