🦌︴general

[nimble sequoia]

so where they overlapped and ineracted in southeastern europe and the levant

at least after initial mixing

prolly not much difference

[old lion]

Yes on the intelligence but like grunts doesn’t necessarily mean stupid

[nimble sequoia]

pluck one of our species out of what is now Algeria and try to have em talk to a neanderthal from what is now germany

[lone drift]

All this because on person asked what map had bigfoot 😭

[old lion]

Lots of animals are smart enough to speak but just don’t have the vocal structure needed

[unkempt pine]

a lot of assumptions for something nobody knows much about. We know they had ability for communication and that they interacted with humans and thats it. I really doubt they at any point spoke the same language as homo sapiens

[bright saddle]

New dialogue and facial recognition speed run tech, limited diet and brain function stat walls WR holder DISPLACED

[unkempt pine]

you dont even need to speak the same language to procreate

[nimble sequoia]

i mean grunts may have been part of language since they can form sounds in some surviving recorded more archaic languages but they hyoid shape and FOX2P gene indicates that they regularly used intermediate to complex vowel and consonant sounds, likely in chains or concert/combination

[dark barn]

a lot of assumptions?

science is theory

[shrewd apex]

That’s kinda how this works lol scientists do the same. Just taking bits of info and data that we have, putting it together, and theorizing off it

[old lion]

Science is like largely an assumption 😭

[shrewd apex]

It’s not like anyone here is gonna submit an essay somewhere for this

[nimble sequoia]

no but prolonged intermixing and use of the same resources withou any evidence of interpersonal violence indicates communication

[shrewd apex]

Way, even to the point that hella ish we refer to as fact are really just theories that haven’t been disproven yet which… is, again, the whole shebang lol

[old lion]

Lwk I think a neanderthal would smoke a modern human so bad in a fight that they may not even find the remains 😭😭

[shrewd apex]

I’ve had an epiphany about a dnd character

[nimble sequoia]

theyd have an advantage in grappling sports but might suffer a bit due to reduced reach in striking sports

[shrewd apex]

Neanderthal type that slaps people around with a giant catfish. Done

[old lion]

The creation of our universe isn’t even really a theory

It’s a model😭

[lone drift]

Neanderthals would have strength but like a ufc fighter would have technique

[sonic hill]

they also wouldn't have as much stamina or movements, their bodies took way more calories just to sustain itself, they'd run out of energy quicker

[old lion]

He says as he gets ripped in half by a cave juggernaut

[lone drift]

I doubt it…

[shrewd apex]

Grugs been bashing things heads in since before he could talk. You stand no chances

[old lion]

Also like they were smoking cave lions 😭 a scrawny human is cooked

[nimble sequoia]

neanderthals did have more type 2 isomere muscle fibers but they weren't the hulk lmao

[nimble sequoia]

yes, and our species did the same

[lone drift]

Yes a scrawny human is cooked even against a scrawny human who can fight

[old lion]

It’s so bold to assume they didn’t have technique

[nimble sequoia]

paleolithic european and asian populations of homo sapiens regularly hunted cave bears and occasionally cave lions until they both went extinct around 28,000 years ago

[lone drift]

Neanderthal glaze is kinda crazy

[old lion]

Buzz kill🙄

[old lion]

With a huge group

[dark barn]

new name for smaller but reinforced donuts

[old lion]

One on one a modern human getting smoked

[nimble sequoia]

uh, spears

there's a cave bear killsite in austria with a single wound in the temple

[shrewd apex]

Who said spears were involved

[sonic hill]

one on one a modern human will just hit the neanderthal with an atlatl well before the neanderthal was in range to do anything back

[nimble sequoia]

it was killed by one blow by one person

[shrewd apex]

Hand to hand combat

[nimble sequoia]

long sharp stick is dangerous

[shrewd apex]

Let me at em

[nimble sequoia]

mf gonna shank the bear

[sonic hill]

spears and atlatls would be cool to have in the game

[lone drift]

Fighting to the death i think it’s really a 50/50 if it’s a pretty big but well trained dude

[shrewd apex]

How dare you insult me

I’m going to eat the bear.

[old lion]

They also had spears and more muscle and smaller hit boxes

[dark barn]

how many licks do you think it takes to get to the core of the earth

[old lion]

All the licks

[sonic hill]

spears, yes. But by then humans had atlatls, javelins, and quite possibly bows

[shrewd apex]

60,000 at least

[lone drift]

3 of my licks

[shrewd apex]

Also dying at “smaller hit box”😭

[nimble sequoia]

redistributed

they were shorter but proportionally much wider

[sonic hill]

early modern humans went for ranged weapons very early on

[nimble sequoia]

broader ribcage more robust limbs

[lone drift]

Soooooo they were short kings?

[nimble sequoia]

same area two different aspect ratios

[shrewd apex]

The way we started talking about them like videogame characters is sending me

[lone drift]

I’m beating any neanderthal

At rock paper sciccors

[nimble sequoia]

i mean all prehistoric people were on some kind of timing

they had to or theyd die

[shrewd apex]

Imagine playing rock paper scissors with a Neanderthal and it just keeps choosing rock

[old lion]

He says as he’s killed with a large rock to the back of the head

[shrewd apex]

So easy

[nimble sequoia]

even them little mfs on the island of flores

[lone ridge]

do you get more money for getting a perfect kill?

[shrewd apex]

https://tenor.com/view/throw-rock-he-man-masters-of-the-universe-revelation-attack-raid-gif-22185621

[nimble sequoia]

yeah, harvest bonuses increase earnings

[shrewd apex]

That Neanderthal:

[lone ridge]

bro so i wasted my irl money

[lone drift]

Now you really are just glazing

Humans can use rocks too

[lone ridge]

for goodness sake

[nimble sequoia]

in what way?

[shrewd apex]

No I know but it’s hilarious
“Smaller hitbox”
“They went for ranged weapons early on”
It makes sense with context it’s just hilarious

[sonic hill]

is that greta thunberg throwing a rock?

[dark barn]

wonder how wildgame media is doing

[shrewd apex]

Huh

[lone ridge]

i hunt things that are mostly class 9 and this only does up to 8

so im getting less money

[old lion]

You’re missing the point that they are stronger then you

And hand to had you’re done

[nimble sequoia]

yeah but you can just loop in class 8 and below animals

[outer girder]

Where did i just stumble on to

[lone drift]

You’re missing the point they were strong but not especially trained to beat each other up

[lone ridge]

but those give less money even ith perfect thing

with8

with**

[old lion]

Neither was modern human 😭

[nimble sequoia]

depends on the given animal and the overall rate is partly dependent on how many of them you can kill in a given period of time

[lone drift]

If you’re talking ancient homo sapiens why would they fight hand on hand

They had spears

[lone ridge]

WHAT?

oops caps

[old lion]

Then spear to spear

[nimble sequoia]

so how quiackly you can kill animals doesnt change their individual value

but it does their overall

say youve got an hour

[old lion]

Yall are sleeping on the raw strength

[nimble sequoia]

you kill ohhh

[lone drift]

Humans might win this, longer limbs

[nimble sequoia]

15 bison worth 1200 each

[lone ridge]

mhm

[nimble sequoia]

thats 18,000

but say in that same time you can dumpster 30 deer worth 850 each

that's 25,500

[shrewd apex]

Long limbs don’t necessarily mean you’re at an advantage with a spear though

[lone ridge]

im confused

im jsut gunna hunt stuff

il mod the game for money if i need to

[nimble sequoia]

thrusting spears often benefit from the reach of longer arms but themselves need long enough of a shaft

[nimble sequoia]

no you wont

[lone drift]

You can use it kinda like a catapult

[lone ridge]

why

[nimble sequoia]

terms of service forbid it, as does Rule 9 of this server

[dark barn]

me when i ignore server rules

[shrewd apex]

Against TOS and it’ll corrupt your game

[lone ridge]

oh

nvm then

[old lion]

If they’re throwing spears yeah

[lone ridge]

theres a app that lets you give yourself money if you wanna ban it or somin

i didnt use it dw

[nimble sequoia]

anyways i gotta go and get groceries in

[lone drift]

YOU SAID SPEAR TO SPEAR

[shrewd apex]

Exactly, also several other variables when it comes to combat with spears

[dark barn]

yeah officer the drugs in my back pocket arent mine

[old lion]

Ok then modern human looses

[lone ridge]

i ahve it installed for other games buddy

[nimble sequoia]

assuming completely equally constructed thrusting spears the more skilled combatant (preference towards the one with longer arms) should win

[shrewd apex]

Are we throwing
Are we stabbing
What’s the terrain like
What other advantages and disadvantages are at play
Do we have multiple spears
There’s also the strength and speed aspects

[old lion]

Ranged combat is where modern human would win

[shrewd apex]

Bigger doesn’t necessarily mean slower

[lone drift]

No.

[nimble sequoia]

hypothetically

[lone drift]

Atp they should send you to fight them

Prove your point 😭

[old lion]

Bros talking to himself

[nimble sequoia]

in this case it makes it more of a draw

[dark barn]

yes officer i promise i was just holding it for a friend

[nimble sequoia]

since homo sapiens tended to lean into projectile spears

and neanderthals preferred thrusting spears

so sapiens has reach advantage and neanderthal has experience advantage

[lone drift]

0/10 ragebait

[lone ridge]

teh coke is for eating not snorting

[old lion]

You were literally talking to yourself twin

[nimble sequoia]

aight just stop

[lone ridge]

bruh

[old lion]

You replied to your own message

[lone ridge]

ge was talking

abt it

he*

[dark barn]

i made no real allusion to any substance or the manner in which you use it lol

[nimble sequoia]

people often refer back to their own comments while making a point over multiple messages

[stoic anvil]

I dont know if anyone has time but i dont get what herd managment is. is when you kill det big ones i a couple zones so that only small ones spawn there so that only big ones can spawn or what is it?

[nimble sequoia]

there is nothing wrong with that

[solid slate]

If we’re talkin hand to hand combat, a Neanderthal is ripping any modern human in half. If we’re using ranged weapons, modern humans would likely win, since we have Atlatls and things like that. Neanderthals could still throw spears, but they did likely use thrusting spears more often as shown by the higher percentage of injuries by Bears, Wolves, and Rhinos.

[nimble sequoia]

yeah but you named an actual substance specifically

[old lion]

Finally someone understands 😭

[lone ridge]

coke?

[old lion]

Yall sleeping on how strong they were

[lone drift]

You’re treating neanderthals like they are basically invincible human tanks, but they aren’t, humans killed them

[shrewd apex]

Might ask in #🦌︴help-and-tips or #🦌︴great-ones , especially that second one
Folks in there will help ya

[lone ridge]

the drink

yk

coca cola

[solid slate]

There’s a lot of guides on YT about it, for specific species. They’re gonna be better at explaining it than most people in here

[nimble sequoia]

is this a meta reference to it originally being made with a uh

controlled substance

[lone ridge]

no

[old lion]

-10/10 save😭

[lone ridge]

its just a drink officer

[dark barn]

its him trying to backtrack

[nimble sequoia]

as well as horses and deer

[solid slate]

Yeah, humans also bred with them. Neanderthals very likely killed Homo sapiens as well.

[lone ridge]

-# officer = mod

[old lion]

In ranged combat

[shrewd apex]

I’ve been agreeing just not interrupting the convo lol
They were 100% strong as hell and would beat us in hand to hand without a doubt

[lone drift]

They’re treating neanderthals like they won every fight, which simply isn’t true

[nimble sequoia]

assuming equal skill and weaponry that is

[unkempt pine]

communication does not equate to speaking the same language tho

[nimble sequoia]

its hard to take advantage of greater strength if you have no technique and get blasted in the jaw and see stars

[shrewd apex]

Homie we know that was not what you intended lol

[lone ridge]

it is

im thristy

[nimble sequoia]

not necessarily but there's no reason to think they couldnt have given the identical hyoid anatomy and presence of the FOX2P speech genes

[shrewd apex]

Nah even if the human was a professional fighter I believe they’d still fail tbh

[old lion]

Fights in the wild are obviously unpredictable but for the sake of illustration I was assuming equal skill

[nimble sequoia]

eh, we dont have any evidence of interpersonal violence to date and the high presence of neanderthal dna more points to intermingling and absorption of them as they declines from unfavorable environments

[solid slate]

Not every fight, no, but Neanderthals did have significantly more muscle mass than modern humans, and even then, we have lots of evidence of Neanderthals and modern humans coexisting and interbreeding more than we do h the em killing and fighting each other. Hell, the leading theory on why they went extinct is that we literally bred with them so much that they stopped existing.

[shrewd apex]

Then again maybe that’s not entirely accurate to “equal skill” lol I just remember seeing someone else saying that was a comparison being made

[nimble sequoia]

depends on their anatomical knowledge, vegas nerve hit is still near fatal

all primates suffer heart palpitations and potential seizures from blunt neck trauma when applied right

[shrewd apex]

I agree but, for a human in close range of Neanderthals how likely is it they’d be able to get that close and survive?

[nimble sequoia]

sexures

[lone drift]

Atp i’m shooting the neanderthal this stuff is taking way too long

[nimble sequoia]

thanks brain

qwerty layout moment

[solid slate]

Correct, we pretty much bred them out by intermingling with them, at least Pre-Aurgnacian European humans did.

[old lion]

Early modern human vs late neanderthal. Modern human smoked up close. Modern human wins from afar

[dark barn]

"you're all making assumptions" as he, himself, makes assumptions that are even more outlandish than our own

[nimble sequoia]

depends on how well guarded the neanderthal is and if it bothers to protect its own weakpoints to wait for a striking opportunity or just goes all in for fatal blows to start

[old lion]

-# He says as he is clubbed with a femur while loading the gun

[nimble sequoia]

but realistically given how fist fights go and we'd be pitting two ancient humans against each other is prolly an echo of a modern knife fight

[shrewd apex]

See that’s the thing. If we’re assuming equal skill, the Neanderthal would know to do that as it’s the most basic of habits when fighting someone

[old lion]

Unlikely

[lone drift]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-drooling-patrick-star-spongebob-movie-drooling-slime-gif-525340425450564005

[shrewd apex]

Precisely

[nimble sequoia]

loser dies in the street winner dies in the ambulance type of thing

[old lion]

Preach honse

[shrewd apex]

Love this image

[unkempt pine]

ill kill em all

[nimble sequoia]

ANYWAYS

[shrewd apex]

COTW!!!!

[nimble sequoia]

i gotta get groceries in before mf squirrels steal my soda

[unkempt pine]

total neanderthal death

[nimble sequoia]

if anything's missing im blaming all of you

[dark barn]

https://tenor.com/view/bugs-life-a-bugs-life-bruh-not-smiling-ants-not-smiling-gif-8815283262918161887

[cobalt spear]

https://tenor.com/view/packwatch-ripbozo-pitalonzo-alex-lafreniere-alex-iafreniere-gif-18890780

[nimble sequoia]

now return to COTW topics

talk about roe deer

[shrewd apex]

I’ll start the train

[unkempt pine]

add neanderthals to cotw

[old lion]

I think some of you are severely underestimating the strength difference

[shrewd apex]

Look. Animal

[nimble sequoia]

the superior lifeform

[shrewd apex]

It is hunted

Love COTW

[cobalt spear]

@tropic leaf is RIGHT there

[old lion]

Brutal😭

[shrewd apex]

You already play, don’t you?

[solid slate]

Eh he gives off more Homo floresiensis vibes to me

[unkempt pine]

hes not even human

[dark barn]

i thought he was just a skinny oak tree

[old lion]

Seamus lwk like homo erectus

[lone drift]

Nah homo floriensis achieved something

He hasn’t

[solid slate]

Well I’d bet Homo floresiensis and him are in about the same weight class

[lone drift]

No he doesn’t know how to stand up

[solid slate]

We just dogging on bro and he’s not even here 😭

[dark barn]

hes still muted

he clammed the place last night

[old lion]

Holy brutal

[dark barn]

hes watching us from the heavens

[solid slate]

Of course he did

[lone drift]

Nah he watching from down there

[dark barn]

he'll be back in a few hours lmao

[lone drift]

Under the sea he’s with the clams

[solid slate]

Tyk showed mercy by not banning him outright like she threatened to lmao

[unkempt pine]

why would one ban him

[lone drift]

Nobody banned him

[unkempt pine]

say mums

[lone drift]

What language is that

[dark barn]

neanderthal

[lone drift]

Ohhh

[unkempt pine]

queens english ofc

[lone drift]

I took a crash course neanderthal like 250k years ago

[unkempt pine]

did u fail the course

[lone drift]

Nah i passed with flying grades

But flying didn’t exist back then so bird grades

[unkempt pine]

congrats

what were the schools like

[lone drift]

Stones

[old lion]

Argentavis grades

[old lion]

Sad day

Maybe next time she’ll do it fr

Pretty please tyk🥺

[lone drift]

They don’t know what that is

Those are south american

[old lion]

they also lived 5.6 million years apart so i think thats prolly a bigger barrier

[tired storm]

Are backpacks worth using?? Last time I used it they were so loud, I heard they had a change

[shrewd apex]

They’re quieter now, yeah. Your best bet is gonna be trying em out for yourself to see if it works for your play style

[unkempt pine]

i use them for short term goals

can be useful if i need some extra things for a specific purpose

but wont ever use them for general hunting

[desert rose]

i use them to put down a tent

[tired storm]

Okay sounds good thank you, also, im setting my first g1 grind (fallow on te awaroa) i need to herd manage my zones but cba running to the other side of the river when shooting, can I just leave the bodies and reset the game? Or does it have a lasting issue

[unkempt pine]

you cant dirty grind a g1 no more

you have to harvest them to get a chance at a g1 respawn

at least that is what most people believe

[tired storm]

No i have 8 zones set up. I just need to shoot down my exterior zones before I start shooting and claiming my main zones, I just mean while im shooting the exterior zones down

[unkempt pine]

yeah thats probably fine then

theres obviously always a chance that one of those would have spawned as a g1 if harvested but thats unlikely

[desert rose]

still looking for the great one red deer in scotland thouge

biggest so far i got there was a 9

[tired storm]

What do i do if the male of a group isnt spawning? Do I take out the whole group and refind it on the map?

[slate sluice]

'twas confirmed by the devs iirc

[shrewd apex]

It was yeah

[unkempt pine]

rare case of devs actually revealing something

[cobalt spear]

COTW btw

[unkempt pine]

reminds me of a place

[lone drift]

Nuh uh

[unkempt pine]

what game is that

obviously not cotw

[lone drift]

I think it is cotw

Just the angler

[unkempt pine]

fake cotw

[lone drift]

No real cotw

Just for fishing

[unkempt pine]

fake

[cobalt spear]

Call of the wild

It's askiy

[unkempt pine]

looks like vurhonga to me

[cobalt spear]

Wow okay time for my bidaily random influx of a bunch of dimes

Roe are weird

[old lion]

I wouldn’t

[old lion]

Parque

[unkempt pine]

parque doesnt exist

it was just a bad fever dream

[tired storm]

Why not?

[amber plover]

yo do any of u have time to spare some outposts on xbox

[old lion]

There is no advantage to it

You don’t get money

You can’t spawn a g1

[shrewd apex]

The advantage is saving time

and effort

[old lion]

It doesn’t save that much time tho

[shrewd apex]

With the cons being no g1 and no xp/$$$ but other than that it won’t make a difference

[old lion]

Especially if you have tents

[shrewd apex]

It really does lol try doing a run of something without harvesting

[tired storm]

Yeah saving time, money isnt an issue and this is just to set up for the g1 grind, like someone said, chances are slim

[tired storm]

It does when id have the run round the full river on te awaroa to claim 1 fallow

[shrewd apex]

Slim but not none, just sayin
I’m religious about picking up kills and the one time I was about to say “screw it, I’ll just leave map instead cuz I’m lazy” a g1 spawned off that kill

[old lion]

It just makes sense to me for that 1000 or so kills to count

[unkempt pine]

approaching 4k kills on my roe grind

[shrewd apex]

After picking it up of course

But if I hadn’t 😬😬😬😬

[old lion]

Shooting down your zones isn’t like a 50 kill knock it out thing

It can take like 1500 kills

[shrewd apex]

It can, but you can also do it in less than 200

Depending on the grind as well some are shorter

All in all it doesn’t really matter

[tired storm]

Only like 45 zones of fallow

[shrewd apex]

Just taking calculated risks and knowing what could happen

Yeah fallow are quick

[old lion]

Either way tho like 200 kills is a substantial amount on a grind

[shrewd apex]

You’ll get everything set up quickly anyway and be able to blast your mains without an issue so it’ll settle in the end

[old lion]

Especially if you’re only get 8 a rotation

[shrewd apex]

We’re talking shooting things down/up not rotating mains or anything

[tired storm]

Yeah thats what im hoping

[shrewd apex]

So numbers are much higher much quicker typically if you know what you’re doing

[versed silo]

Guess what

[shrewd apex]

Chicken butt

What

[versed silo]

I had 22 trophies in two days

[shrewd apex]

Oooo

Do we get to see the beauties

[amber plover]

YO CAN SOMEONE give me outposts

[old lion]

Yeah but those kills can count towards your total

[shrewd apex]

I mean yea nobody is denying that lol

[versed silo]

sure

[shrewd apex]

It’s literally just up to the person to decide

Dude is fine if he loses out on a g1 that way lol

[old lion]

Fair ig

[shrewd apex]

Oooooh so many

[tired storm]

Ill never know so ill assume not😂

[versed silo]

The goots (9/22 trophies)

[shrewd apex]

Right lol what ya don’t know won’t kill you or keep ya up at night 😂

[old lion]

200 fallow is also a lot of money

[amber plover]

yo alpha ur on xbox can i get sm outposts please

[unkempt pine]

81-89 roe lvl2 estimate

[unkempt pine]

ofc he doesnt make it

[shrewd apex]

Ooohh no the trollssss

[old lion]

Could be spent on tents and tripods

[versed silo]

The roe deers (5/22 trophies)

That’s it

[shrewd apex]

Hellllll yes

Little lvl 1 fox too hahaha love it

[versed silo]

Heck yeah

[shrewd apex]

That Iberian wolf threw me for a loop for a sec lmao

[sonic hill]

i killed like a dozen level 8 cape buffalo... hopefully a 9 will spawn and I can check that one off the list

[jovial dust]

hello

i am not an IRL hunter how do I remove the role

[shrewd apex]

Gorgeous trophies alpha wolf. May you get many more

[sonic hill]

i did finally track down the level 5 wildebeast I seen yesterday, harvest it, and get a diamond

[shrewd apex]

Uncheck it on channels & roles

[versed silo]

Thank you !

That sambar is incredible

[jovial dust]

id:customize

[versed silo]

That spotted hog deer

❤️

[shrewd apex]

Wayyyy

[sonic hill]

i don't suppose it'll be too long before I find a diamond gemsbok either

[shrewd apex]

The floof on the sambar is precious too. Looks even more adorable with the piebald

[unkempt pine]

pie sambar looks a lot like pie reindeer

in terms of fur

[jovial dust]

fixed

thanks cuh

[nimble sequoia]

F L O O F B A R

[versed silo]

OOOH

We are arriving in May soon

So we gotta post the best trophies of the last 4 months soon

[shrewd apex]

Oh?

[unkempt pine]

4 month summer holidays in less than a month

[shrewd apex]

I’ve got to get that brown molting…

Y’all have summer holidays?

[nimble sequoia]

in what capacity

[shrewd apex]

Like vacation ???? Or

I don’t know lmfao

I’m curious that’s why I’m asking

[unkempt pine]

my summer holidays are from end of may till mid september

[shrewd apex]

Is this because y’all are in school or is this like a widespread thing for you

[nimble sequoia]

i mean yeh, university gives the summer off but youve got the option to continue the

GRIND

and keep doing classes anyways

[unkempt pine]

i get no option

[shrewd apex]

No yeah but I am confused in other ways lol

[unkempt pine]

we just end in late may

[shrewd apex]

Who is we

[unkempt pine]

my fellow uni students

[shrewd apex]

Oh so this is a school thing. Got it

[nimble sequoia]

im

[nimble sequoia]

idk im confusion

[unkempt pine]

schools have way less holiday

[shrewd apex]

Me too that’s why I was askin lol

[unkempt pine]

schools have like 1-2 months

[versed silo]

I finished university last May

[unkempt pine]

unis are 4 months which is amazing

[shrewd apex]

THE FEETS

the blushing is so cute

[unkempt pine]

bachelor or masters

[versed silo]

Bachelor

[unkempt pine]

ah

[shrewd apex]

Hell yea homie

[unkempt pine]

imma go for a masters to avoid employment for as long as possible

[shrewd apex]

Ugh is it weird to say this is one of the coolest looking piebalds in game
Like
Model needs work but the design itself is cool

Avoid employment ✅ accrue debt ✅

[versed silo]

Let me see what else i got

[unkempt pine]

i pay less in 4 years of uni than 99% of students pay in 1 year

so not a biggie

[shrewd apex]

Noice lol

[unkempt pine]

id go for a phd but at that point id just be a professional bum

[shrewd apex]

Might as well take the opportunity if you have it

I mean

Debatable but I suppose that depends on what phd lol

[unkempt pine]

law phd

is

[shrewd apex]

Oh beautiful fox

[unkempt pine]

i mean

its prestigious but not really worth it

even masters is getting kinda pointless nowadays

[lone drift]

But it means you can legally break the law

[shrewd apex]

Yea just really depends on what you wanna do with it

[shrewd apex]

It’s worth it just perhaps not for everyone

[versed silo]

This is all in 2026 btw

[shrewd apex]

Loooove it

[lone drift]

How was that wolf in 2026 if it isn’t remodeled

[versed silo]

it's a coyote

and the wolf is an iberian

[lone drift]

Oh im dumb it’s an iberian 😭

[unkempt pine]

les iberiquie

[lone drift]

Iberia is the best peninsula of all time

[unkempt pine]

nah

[shrewd apex]

Another contender for one of the best pies in game

[unkempt pine]

balkan peninsula clears

[lone drift]

You’re from there

Ofc you’d say that

[unkempt pine]

im not biased at all

[unkempt pine]

its objectively the best

just is

[lone drift]

It doesn’t have any spanish animals tho

[unkempt pine]

it has better animals

[lone drift]

Such as?

[unkempt pine]

well for starters its the wildest region in europe aside from russia

legit got everything

😭

[lone drift]

Such as???

[unkempt pine]

balkan lynx

carpathian lynx

[unkempt pine]

european wildcats

bears

wolves

[wanton zealot]

Procavia capensis

[unkempt pine]

jackals

[lone drift]

L only subspecies iberia has its own full species

[solid slate]

Croatia and North Macedonia in particular are maps I’d like to see someday. Croatia has a lot of exotics on a variety of offshore islands like Axis Deer, Kri Kri, Aoudad, and many others. North Macedonia has all of these too but they also have Feral Yaks.

[shrewd apex]

One of the prettiest 😩💖

[shrewd apex]

Little wonky baby

[unkempt pine]

yeah croatian island hunting is great

[wanton zealot]

Aoudad my beloved

[lone drift]

ROCK HYRAX

[wanton zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/hyrax-gif-2995578920328136431

[lone drift]

Iberian peninsula clears

[solid slate]

I want North Macedonia more but honestly just a Balkan map in general would be awesome to see.

[unkempt pine]

this is the main island for hunting in croatia

[wanton zealot]

I got one of those too

[unkempt pine]

although the coastal dinaric alps would prob make for a better map

[solid slate]

Iberia is tuff but personally I think Balkans still clear, they have Alpine Ibex, Kri Kri Ibex, and various feral sheep breeds like Racka, Jacobs, and Cypriot Mouflon.

[unkempt pine]

yeah id love to see it one day but first other continents

[lone drift]

Spain has it’s own ibex 🤑

[solid slate]

I think a coastal map with a couple islands you can travel to would be fun. Kinda like Rev.

[unkempt pine]

i was thinking of that

[wanton zealot]

Have me pretty sold on sheep

[unkempt pine]

but maybe too complex for ew

balkan chamois is also another thing i wanna see

[solid slate]

Agreed, Europe needs a bit of a break but eventually I think a Balkan map would be awesome.

[unkempt pine]

bigger version of the alpine chamois

[shrewd apex]

More 🗣️boats 🗣️

[versed silo]

soo many rares

[lone drift]

Spain has it’s own chamois species 🤑

[solid slate]

Spain only got 1 species though, Balkans have 3

[versed silo]

https://tenor.com/view/catzilla-godzilla-destruction-destroy-building-gif-4634846807501168096

[shrewd apex]

Okay that’s just rude

[lone drift]

3?

alpine and?

[unkempt pine]

kri kri

[solid slate]

Alpine, Kri Kri, and Bezoar are all either wild or feral there.

[unkempt pine]

balkans would be a very caprinae oriented map and i love it

[lone drift]

Kri kri is technically a ancient feral goat

[unkempt pine]

i made my own mini project for a dinaric alp/croatian island map

[solid slate]

Feral Goats came from Bezoar y technically so it’s still kinda an Ibex

[peak cosmos]

i want me one

[versed silo]

And that's it

[lone drift]

Doesn’t that make all goats worldwide ibex

[versed silo]

Sooo many rares this year

[solid slate]

Sorta, but Kri Kri still look like Ibex

[peak cosmos]

i just drooled

i love caprines

[unkempt pine]

kri kri in croatia

yeo

especially chamois for me

[lone drift]

Spain has adouad tho

[solid slate]

So does Balkans

[unkempt pine]

so does croatia

[wanton zealot]

Ngl cuatro would benefit from them

[versed silo]

so does Canada

[peak cosmos]

youre lowkey selling me

[versed silo]

wait... no

[wanton zealot]

So does Texas

[lone drift]

Spain has every other european country except greece beat on one thing tho

[solid slate]

I mean I love Spain, but the Balkans are objectively better in terms of species variety

[lone drift]

LONG LIVE THE BLANUS

[unkempt pine]

Olm clears

olm supremacy

[wanton zealot]

Iberian worm lizard my beloved

[lone drift]

Doesn’t count it’s an amphibian

[unkempt pine]

that makes it better

[lone drift]

The olm*

Nah bro can’t even live out of water 😭

[unkempt pine]

bro can live for 100 years

goat stuff

[peak cosmos]

lobster clears

[lone drift]

Olm needed a cave to become blind my boy blanus did it first he’s the only real one here no debate

Guess who was the largest venomous snake in europe

SPAIN

[peak cosmos]

https://klipy.com/gifs/lobster-blue-lobster-meme--k01KQDKGH0WE8M0PDW5S6VKX0ED

[wanton zealot]

NOOOO

I can never escape that lobster

[lone drift]

I can just hear the dracula music

[coarse dock]

[frozen yarrow]

what the hell is this

[peak cosmos]

the blanus

[lone drift]

Blanus cinereus

The iberian worm lizard

[frozen yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/jimmy-butler-jimmy-butler-paper-confused-gif-14478007832172093541

[lone drift]

Are you hating on him?

[frozen yarrow]

on who

[lone drift]

The blanus

[unkempt pine]

this would be a stunning map

[peak cosmos]

what country?

[lone drift]

Spain

Jk

[wanton zealot]

Live ground squirrel reaction

[unkempt pine]

croatia

[lone drift]

Why he staring like i owe him money

[wanton zealot]

You do

[wanton zealot]

Chamois?

Au.

[lone drift]

Knew i shouldn’t have invested in acorns

[wanton zealot]

Salutations.

[distant finch]

i agree, florida would be great

[wanton zealot]

I thought they'd eat that too till I saw one eating a live bird

And a toad

[lone drift]

I better hide

He’s after me

[distant finch]

so am i

[wanton zealot]

Ikr California would be amazing

[unkempt pine]

they be chillin

[wanton zealot]

Eepy

[lone drift]

https://tenor.com/view/it's-time-to-stop-gif-9416155803997449261

[wanton zealot]

Their greed sickens me

Still eating smh

[distant finch]

i was just thinking how arizona would be so cool

[wanton zealot]

Species?

[distant finch]

mountain lion

that’s it

[wanton zealot]

Trust

[unkempt pine]

walmart dwellers too

[distant finch]

true just add people

[tropic leaf]

I'm freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[unkempt pine]

nah

[peak cosmos]

nurse hes out again

[unkempt pine]

youre on probation

[peak cosmos]

what did he do this time

[peak cosmos]

that doesnt sound like the seamus i know.

[tropic leaf]

I'm literally homo heidelbergensis

[unkempt pine]

youre not worthy of heidelberg

[tropic leaf]

I am NOT a Hobbit😭

[unkempt pine]

what about a chud

[shrewd apex]

What’s wild is you do resemble that more than the others folks mentioned lol

[unkempt pine]

homo chudensis

[shrewd apex]

Like purely bone structure wise lmao

[unkempt pine]

personally i wouldnt have that seamus

they critiqued your anatomy

your bone structure

[shrewd apex]

What lol

It’s not a critique

[unkempt pine]

your very existence as a homo sapiens was put into question

[unkempt pine]

personally i would retaliate

[peak cosmos]

he said it his damn self

[unkempt pine]

that dont matter

the point is that he is being deprived of his humanity

[peak cosmos]

crine

[tropic leaf]

Crine😭

[shrewd apex]

Your Neanderthal DNA is showing

[wanton zealot]

I love bullying seamus

[unkempt pine]

he needs to fight back to retain his place as a human and thus an equal

[wanton zealot]

Insult to Neanderthals

[unkempt pine]

mf automatically reacts with an emoji

[shrewd apex]

Lmfao

[unkempt pine]

okay keep bullying

[wanton zealot]

Remember people its not bullying if its seamus

[shrewd apex]

It was never bullying lol

Fr

[unkempt pine]

yeah coz you dehumanised him

[shrewd apex]

Lord hamercy lmfao

[tropic leaf]

I'm gonna get in trouble for spam reacting again lol

[unkempt pine]

he has been reduced to nothing more than a spam bot on a discord server

this is a perfect case study on the adverse effects of dehumanisation on the human mind

[dark barn]

this is like those people who stick up for corporations

they dont need it because they're in on the joke bub

[wanton zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/hartebeest-sigma-hartebeest-gif-16902239089998582974

[dark barn]

seamus loves us

[void lagoon]

oh hello little cokes hartebeest why are u drinking so much water even

[shrewd apex]

thorsty

[unkempt pine]

his love for us comes from stockholm syndrome

[wanton zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/hyrax-tomato-funny-chew-teeth-gif-11208825867329472649

[wanton zealot]

Bro is a little thirsty

[void lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/mosaic-survival-hartebeest-mosaic-survival-hartebeest-wild-savanna-gif-14119261219235231348

[unkempt pine]

crazy how this animal has more rights than seamus

[wanton zealot]

Ey I have one of these

Guinea pigs are so peak

[void lagoon]

oh no sob guy is here

everyone flee

[tropic leaf]

RIP the homies

[unkempt pine]

a lion does not flee from clams

[peak cosmos]

clear vertebrate favoritism, seamus is a bivalve

[wanton zealot]

Rock hyrax and hartebeest > clams

[peak cosmos]

hartebeest > clam > hyrax

[unkempt pine]

now he has been reduced to a great supine protoplasmic invertebrate jelly

there is no end to his dehumanisation

[wanton zealot]

Wrong

[unkempt pine]

truly unfortunate

[wanton zealot]

Hyrax and hartebeest are equal

[peak cosmos]

matter of opinion

[wanton zealot]

Thats completely wrong

[unkempt pine]

some are more equal than others

[wanton zealot]

Hyrax Racism

[unkempt pine]

hartebeest mogs

[old lion]

Noo this bum Seamus back

[peak cosmos]

more of a gopher fella myself

[unkempt pine]

is it even accurate to call seamus a him

[wanton zealot]

It

[unkempt pine]

clearly he has devolved to an it

indeed

[nimble sequoia]

why are we dehumanizing seamus

i think the joke's going a bit beyond the wire fellas

[unkempt pine]

i tried to get him to retaliate against this discrimination

but alas

i think its necessary

[wanton zealot]

I mean he doesn't seem to have a problem with it if he did it would be much appreciated if he said something

[wanton zealot]

He was kinda going along with it too here so..

[unkempt pine]

hes so hurt by your actions that he cannot express it through text

should be ashamed of yourself

[wanton zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/hyrax-gif-2995578920328136431

[peak cosmos]

where did he go im scared

[unkempt pine]

i cannot imagine ever being hurtful to seamus

unlike you monsters

heartless monsters

[peak cosmos]

oh good

[unkempt pine]

this guy legit managed to somehow react to 3 messages at same time

[peak cosmos]

seamus got 1 bar

[unkempt pine]

he not even capable of communicating no more

hes actually devolving

[peak cosmos]

he cant stop crying, hes hurt

[nimble sequoia]

okay seamus stop cry reacting

[unkempt pine]

by tomorrow hell be single cell organism

[peak cosmos]

i think he needs to go to the vet

[nimble sequoia]

i can feel the gremlin grin and laughter through the screen

[unkempt pine]

are you calling him a dog that must be put down😱

that is horrid

[peak cosmos]

no he just needs a checkup

[lone drift]

We’ve broken him

[unkempt pine]

how dare thy

[lone drift]

Holy how isn’t seamus dehydrated from all this crying

[wanton zealot]

He's semi aquatic

[unkempt pine]

it

[lone drift]

Sounds fishy

[shrewd apex]

Seamus! Lookin great buddy, glad to see you’re well

[wanton zealot]

The tears are just water coming off his body

[nimble sequoia]

ay dats right Seamus is the OG

Tiktaalik

he invented legs so we could walk 🫡

[lone drift]

That would mean he’s canadian

[shrewd apex]

Can’t thank bro enough

[unkempt pine]

he invented speech so he can be massacred in chat

[nimble sequoia]

nah, he predates canada

[tropic leaf]

Anyone in Seamusland rn? Only trustworthy Xbox players come from Seamusland

[nimble sequoia]

he merely allows ellesmere island and the remainder of Nunavut and canada proper to exist

[peak cosmos]

seamus flopped so humanity could walk

[lone drift]

Yes i am

It’s wet in here

Why did you make it in the sea

[wanton zealot]

AW refrence

[wanton zealot]

Hi again brooke

[unkempt pine]

mogged to infinity

[wanton zealot]

https://media.giphy.com/media/v1.Y2lkPTc5MGI3NjExbWNzZzQwZThpemo5eDBrZzFyN3hpYmtuY3RnOWd1ZGs3dzFqcWM4ZyZlcD12MV9naWZzX3NlYXJjaCZjdD1n/ScDmBAun65vuFtYTml/giphy.gif

[void lagoon]

hello hyraxian

[tropic leaf]

Can someone tell this worm to leave my brain?

[void lagoon]

teach me how to eliminate snow leopards

[lone drift]

No eat it

[wanton zealot]

Worm?(happie post the funny worm lizard)

[unkempt pine]

you have to eliminate them i think

[wanton zealot]

Peak

[unkempt pine]

preferrably with the largest calibre there is

the worse the shot the better

[wanton zealot]

I haven't found all my male snow leopards

I got demotivated after getting trolled twice

[lone drift]

Get motivated

Heard that works

[wanton zealot]

Nah

Snow leopards in this game suck anyway

[lone drift]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-peabody-hypnotize-gif-18017563854157472082

Wrong spell i blew him up

[unkempt pine]

how dare you

[wanton zealot]

Is that john viltrum

[lone drift]

Yes it was him

[unkempt pine]

scared him off

[wanton zealot]

You diss hyraxes I diss snow leopards

[lone drift]

@cobalt spear was that you

[unkempt pine]

nobody can diss snow leopards

hyraxes are bs with fur

[wanton zealot]

Watch me

[unkempt pine]

theres levels

[lone drift]

Not even able to roar

[nimble sequoia]

mah stuff that I got for my birthday being delivered tomorrow

[wanton zealot]

Only big cat not able to

Lowk a skill issue

[unkempt pine]

thats coz theyre based

[lone drift]

I could beat a snow leopard in a fight

[wanton zealot]

Hyraxes can sing snow leopards cant even roar

[lone drift]

When was your birthday

[wanton zealot]

Just saying

[nimble sequoia]

this was a preemptive airstrike its actually on friday

[nimble sequoia]

snow leopards live in god's pantry

[wanton zealot]

Glitter bomb

[nimble sequoia]

better

slingshot

and a blowgun

[wanton zealot]

Oh nice

[nimble sequoia]

and ammo for both

and a leadsled

[lone drift]

My birthday was monday

I’m so cool conan o brien came to the netherlands on my birthday

[unkempt pine]

snow leopard is in game, hyrax will never be

thats coz hyrax is bs

[wanton zealot]

Cuz they have too much aura

[unkempt pine]

hyrax lives dont matter

[wanton zealot]

The game wouldn't handle it

[unkempt pine]

theyre so worthless nobody wants to hunt them

[lone drift]

Atp it’s just getting kinda personal

[wanton zealot]

Peak evolution didnt need to change

[wanton zealot]

And a tad racist

[void lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/lelwel-hartebeest-hartebeest-wild-savanna-hartebeests-gif-1323521019454424497

[wanton zealot]

Bro has a personal vendetta against hyraxes

[unkempt pine]

hyrax must be destroyed

[wanton zealot]

Fellow niche African mammal

[nimble sequoia]

aight thats a bit beyond the board cause thats a vague reference to an equity/equality activism organization and all the controversy therein

[unkempt pine]

my bad

[void lagoon]

unfortunately one of the most hated hartebeest sub specie

[wanton zealot]

Smh my head

[lone drift]

1 snow leopard vs a fraction of a hyrax

[void lagoon]

he is reminding me of the person who kept hating & calling hartebeests frauds earlier

[lone drift]

The hyrax still wins

[unkempt pine]

who unironically hates animals

[wanton zealot]

Too much aura

[nimble sequoia]

there's a select few psychopaths who genuinely do as a whole

[wanton zealot]

They arent frauds they are beautiful creatures to grace this earth

[unkempt pine]

that reminds me of the pleco guy on tiktok

[void lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-beatbox-fish-beatbox-suck-fish-wall-fish-gif-13944603229295370460

just because they are invasive doesn't give u the right to torture them

[wanton zealot]

Invasive or not every animal should be treated with respect

[nimble sequoia]

oh god him

[wanton zealot]

And if your gonna dispatch of one do it ethically

[unkempt pine]

i saw an edit of the pleco guy

[nimble sequoia]

even as much as I despise the damage starlings and english sparrows do to native nesting birds i dont wish suffering on them

[unkempt pine]

prob cant send here

[nimble sequoia]

if/when i go to hunt them recreationally/thin their numbers im aiming for the dome with the slingshot

or bopping them with an air rifle

[void lagoon]

dude its disgusting the things he does to them

[shrewd apex]

Starlings are super common over here and people threaten to shoot them a lot, same with other animals like yotes and bobcats even
Wild stuff

[nimble sequoia]

the animal itself isnt the issue per se its the morons who introduced them

[wanton zealot]

The thing with yotes though the more you kill them the more spawn in

[lone drift]

Spotless starling are goated

[unkempt pine]

the worst thing is that all the pleco he gets are the ones from pet stores not the ones caught in the wild

[nimble sequoia]

I see them and sorta gloss past their existence to the 50 or so native songbirds that should be more common in much of the US but arent cause idiots brought em over

[lone drift]

Not even invasive

And guess where from

SPAIN

[unkempt pine]

so instead of murking actual invasive pleco he just kills pets

[nimble sequoia]

executive decision

[peak cosmos]

this guy

[nimble sequoia]

we airstrike him with 97 hellfire missiles

[shrewd apex]

Sounds like a serial killer ngl

[unkempt pine]

https://tenor.com/view/katyusha-gif-18144996

[lone drift]

Ik that happie guy is such a clown

[wanton zealot]

30-50 feral hogs

[nimble sequoia]

btw

do yall even know the starling story

its dumb af

[shrewd apex]

The pleco guy, that is

[wanton zealot]

Go on..

[nimble sequoia]

also includes the background to the english sparrow

[nimble sequoia]

its simple but extraordinarily dumb

[peak cosmos]

shakespeare

[wanton zealot]

Story time with honse

[nimble sequoia]

50 pairs were released into central park by an arts society that wanted to remodel the New England area and North America as a whole to be like 1600s england as described by Shakespeare

its why we also have english sparrows and collared doves

there was also a whole ass legal import battle about european deer species

that is partly what eventually led to texas game ranches having red and fallow deer

[wanton zealot]

🫩

[nimble sequoia]

but thats a while weaving bureaucratic mess that last like 85 years from start to finish

[wanton zealot]

Just as bad as mute swans being brought over for decoration for parks, golf courses and private collections

[nimble sequoia]

and then bullying away tons of native waterfowl

and outright killing some native upland birds because theyre so territorial

[lone drift]

Pink starlings best starlings

[wanton zealot]

Every swan ive seen mainly targets geese

Ducks they usually leave alone since most of them are hidden

[shrewd apex]

Why do people try and play god so much for ish that shouldn’t be a thing 😭

[wanton zealot]

Ive heard stories of them trying to drown dogs

[nimble sequoia]

its also a good thing to note

by themselves they wouldve spread slower

but the feral cat epidemic meant that they along with other invasive eurasian passerines

were the only birds adjusted to a surplus killing wildcat

since they cohabitate with 4 or 5 different wildcats across their range

meanwhile

cardinals, jays, etc

all the native US birds at most had bobcats, which generally considered them not worth the effort due to so little gain for the energy

the primary threat to new world passerines before then was snakes, mantids, tarantulas, fish, omnivorous and mesocarnivorous seabirds, and smaller raptors like kites

along with the odd nest raid or carnivorous hunt by larger squirrel species like fox squirrels

so you had this one two punch

where theres a totally new predator massacring native birds while a set of invasives are killing hatchlings, mobbing adults, and using up nesting space

[nimble sequoia]

random fact: canada geese almost went extinct

[unkempt pine]

Good

Mfs attacked me

[nimble sequoia]

ungood, keystone waterfowl responsible for pond and lake ecosystem maintenance thats a primary food source for close to 30 predatory mammals

[unkempt pine]

Most aggressive animal I’ve ever met

[nimble sequoia]

cobra chicken

[unkempt pine]

I was feeding them out of the goodness of my heart

And then I ended up having to grab one by the neck in an epic battle

[peak cosmos]

got my ass beat by a canada goose as a very small child lmao

[wanton zealot]

Never trust a cobra goose

[nimble sequoia]

i vibed with a nesting female at the zoo once

[peak cosmos]

cute

[unkempt pine]

Wdym vibed

[nimble sequoia]

she was nested by the stairs and i sat down next to it

[nimble sequoia]

chilled out wit da goose while she was on her nest

[lone drift]

I’ve never been attacked by animals except insects and reptiles

[peak cosmos]

yeah i haven't really had a negative experience with one before or since

[lone drift]

The worm lizard bit me

[dark barn]

you ever met a cat who hates having his tail touched

those cats are vicious

[lone drift]

I’ve only met one cat

[nimble sequoia]

ants

[dark barn]

how on earth

[nimble sequoia]

sometimes they be on some timing

[peak cosmos]

do you live in a cave

[wanton zealot]

I've mainly been attacked by badgers and coyotes

[nimble sequoia]

how

[wanton zealot]

Badgers are hissing pancakes for the most part

[dark barn]

no cats like caves he cant live there

[nimble sequoia]

i feel like there should be a different word for the noises they make cause its like

[peak cosmos]

he must live underwater then

[nimble sequoia]

its anger.mp4

[unkempt pine]

Best swan species

[dark barn]

tbf theres not an awful lot of stray cats in the netherlands to my knowledge

[lone drift]

Bc i barely know people with cats and i barely go to other people’s homes

[dark barn]

probably factors into it lol

[wanton zealot]

Tundra swan? Or am I confusing a different one

[nimble sequoia]

ah

[nimble sequoia]

ah

valid

[wanton zealot]

Furry landmines

[unkempt pine]

Whooper

[wanton zealot]

https://tenor.com/view/sniff-badger-american-badger-wildlife-fauna-gif-18377966839420343871

[nimble sequoia]

malicious ironing board

random fact the primary use for their fur and reason for classification as a furbearer is because they are used to make shaving and makeup brushes

[wanton zealot]

Love this fact

https://tenor.com/view/cute-fat-american-badger-cute-fat-thor-american-badger-gif-14861126

[nimble sequoia]

and also hair brushes

[wanton zealot]

Like I said furry landmines

[nimble sequoia]

although boar's hair is preferred

[nimble sequoia]

wanna know more random furbearer facts

[dark barn]

just ate cheese fyi

[nimble sequoia]

aw hell yeah

[dark barn]

love cheese

just a cube

but twas cheese

[nimble sequoia]

nice

[dark barn]

a chube if u will

[nimble sequoia]

yuhhhh

[nimble sequoia]

also mah stuff is getting delivered tomorrow

[wanton zealot]

Always

[nimble sequoia]

slingshot and blowgun incoming

[nimble sequoia]

so yknow how many mid range to high range winter parkas had those interior lined hoods?

[wanton zealot]

Yuh

[nimble sequoia]

anything that doesnt say synthetic or farmed fur product/specified wildlife fur is more often than not coyote, preferably in winter coat with no rubbing

fringes and cuffs are also frequently made with squirrel, red fox, gray fox, marten, mink, and even muskrat

in addition, almost all felt cowboy hats are made from beaver pelt

[wanton zealot]

Icl tho gray fox fur is pretty soft

[dark barn]

nice

my desktop vape comes on friday

[nimble sequoia]

oh extremely, as is coyote when in winter coat

its why theyre so often preferred for liners

[wanton zealot]

I dont see many coyotes in winter so never got to feel one

Mainly see them running about in their summer coats

[nimble sequoia]

i should also add, central/western yotes in the rockies and plains are preferred due to thicker fluffier winter coats

but lemme grab an example rq

[nimble sequoia]

observe, da floof

[wanton zealot]

Mega floof

[nimble sequoia]

he looks airbrushed its adorable

[dark barn]

the vape has a whole ass remote control and LED lighting lmao

slow ass wifi send my messages

[nimble sequoia]

lmfao

[wanton zealot]

These are more like the yotes im used to seeing

[nimble sequoia]

for other furbearers quite a few have fallen to the wayside for not being used much anymore

mittens and various liners for everything from boots to mittens and jackets plus accets used to be popular uses for possum, raccoon, and especially muskrat

now muskrat is uh

well ill put it this way

a small muskrat was 12 dollars still back in the 1980s

now a big one near max size might get you 4.5 bucks