🦌︴general

[oak orbit]

with them

[hidden hound]

Definitely

[obsidian wedge]

how can you 14 skill but i can only have 12 skill when it says we can have 22 skill

i am a lv 60 but it only lets me have 12 skill points

[cobalt spear]

Did you spend all of them?

[oak orbit]

where do u see 22 skill points lol

[hidden hound]

U change from stalker to ambush

14 n 8 is 22 lol

[obsidian wedge]

cotw google ... You can increase your level by increasing the amount of experience your character has obtained. This can be done through harvesting animals, discovering outposts and points of interest, and completing missions. At the moment, the level cap is 60 with maximum Skill and Perk Points capped at 22 each

[cobalt spear]

Never use google for this game

It's wrong majority of the time

[oak orbit]

ahh 22 points total

[cobalt spear]

Yours should look like this

[oak orbit]

yea you can only use 22 points only, i have 14 into stalk and 8 into ambusher

[junior marsh]

Also if that's the AI summary... You can never trust that to be accurate. You have to do some actual research for truth still

[hidden hound]

Ye I don't use pack mule skill

[oak orbit]

same

[obsidian wedge]

if i only have 12 skill points spent where is the other 10 lol , do i need to do missions

[hidden hound]

I like D veg skill

[oak orbit]

sameeski

[obsidian wedge]

pack mule is great

[hidden hound]

Not wen u got back pack lol

[cobalt spear]

Pack mule is not worth it over disturbed veg

Not even with a backpack

[oak orbit]

real

[hidden hound]

Everyone is different ima long range player unless they come to me so bag noise don't effect my target

[oak orbit]

facts

im constantly shooting 300+

250+

m

[obsidian wedge]

Do the Electronic Caller work with the HILL CALLER?

[oak orbit]

hill caller?

[hidden hound]

Hell yeah I shot 130 with Anderson lol

My grinds are 175 to 250

[torn zealot]

@oak orbit wut r u still doing here

[hidden hound]

I pref long range

[oak orbit]

haha im active all day on here when not at work bro

ive been searching for the haggis for 10 days💔ill find it, and help others while im at it

[haughty comet]

Hunting the haggis be like (I made this earlier and thought it was too funny not to send here)

[obsidian wedge]

Skill Ambuisher, Hill Caller and Keen Eye, I was thinking about it running around with tree stand and calling them.

[oak orbit]

once i get the haggis im peaceout😂

[oak orbit]

😂😂

[torn zealot]

lol fair enough so random question, for HM or Heard managment right? if im starting on a new dlc map should i just be hunting mid range

[oak orbit]

herd*

[torn zealot]

lmaooo

my b

[oak orbit]

all good

and wym

[torn zealot]

that

[oak orbit]

like mid size?

[hidden hound]

LEGEND 🤣 🤣 🤣

[oak orbit]

shoot only mid size yea

leave dimes leave 1s

[torn zealot]

ok so just basically mass murder mid range leaving the lows and highs

[twin spindle]

man electronic caller is such a cheat sheet

[torn zealot]

real

[hidden hound]

Haggis your hm do you stack dimes

[torn zealot]

im just trying to get an idea of what i should be doing to casually hunt for trophies not that im like trying to get the best of the best but i would like a decent trophy room and maybe a great one

[cobalt spear]

Uh, don't

You have to waste a LOT of skill points to get that stuff

[hidden hound]

I don't shoot below 3 n less a rare

[cobalt spear]

Leave lows in exteriors, and leave diamonds in main zones

[torn zealot]

so a diamond is pretty much anything that is like max rarity for that animal?

[sour raven]

Can I join you on that?

[torn zealot]

i doont even think ive seen my first diamond

[sand matrix]

When i herd manage mule deer what is the highest level i should be leaving

[cobalt spear]

yes

[sour raven]

Wsp @cobalt spear

[cobalt spear]

2 in exteriors

[sand matrix]

Alr

[sour raven]

Remember me from yesterday?

[cobalt spear]

yes

[cobalt spear]

Don't worry about herd management then

You're new to the game, just play normally and focus on getting experienced

[cobalt spear]

lol nah

[sour raven]

Whatttt

I was asking for tips in #🦌︴help-and-tips

[obsidian wedge]

@cobalt spear i'm new to discord just figured this out @ thing

[cobalt spear]

cool

[sour raven]

lol

[azure crag]

The perfect loadout. Well, the perfect loadout for me. Class 1-4 are covered with borderline stealth rifles, class 5-9, which encompasses my least-hunted species, is covered with a 1lb handgun, and I have space left for my shotgun if I feel like flushing birds. Yeet.

[obsidian wedge]

So is not everyone have the same amount of skill and perk points on all platforms? If I am level 60 and only able to use 12 skill points and 12 perk points thats (24) not 22 skill and 22 perk. someone said 14 skill and 8 perk points thats 22

[cobalt spear]

Should have 22

It's the same for everyone

[obsidian wedge]

This can be done through harvesting animals, discovering outposts and points of interest, and completing missions. At the moment, the level cap is 60 with maximum Skill and Perk Points capped at 22 each. .... https://thehuntercotw.fandom.com/wiki/Level#:~:text=At the moment%2C the level,skill or a perk point.

is there a Bug problem

[cobalt spear]

Send a pic of your skills screen

[obsidian wedge]

are we not getting all of are Skill and Perk points

[rotund vessel]

I was curious about something does the class of the rifle you use affect trophy ratings for example if I killed a whitetail with a class 7-9 rifle would that negatively impact the rating?

[cobalt spear]

Yes

[rotund vessel]

Ok thank you

[obsidian wedge]

xbox gamer tag ?

[azure crag]

Are you looking at perks unlocked or points spent? I'm using 22pts on PS5 but the Stalker is 4/13 and the Ambusher is 8/13, which would suggest 12pts at first glance until you realize multiple points are put into individual perks.

[obsidian wedge]

I can send picture of sceen

GC62056 thats me

[twin spindle]

the most overall best versatile loadout if u want least guns possible is a .300 (or a .375) and frost .256 and .22lr + a shotgun for birds

[cobalt spear]

Send a pic of these 2 screens

Just screenshot and send it in the discord

[sour raven]

I got a question about multiplayer bird hunting/duck hunting, How come whenever im with another person duck hunting inside a blind the ducks swoop in then run away last second but when alone its fine?

[azure crag]

That's the same amount of guns I have, but I prefer the .45 Cyclone for it's silent shooting 😄

[cobalt spear]

It only works for one person

[hidden hound]

On Scotland 300 is overkill lol

[cobalt spear]

You gotta be in separate blinds

[sour raven]

Damn, they need to fix that!

[cobalt spear]

Yeah it's weird

[hidden hound]

I use shotty 308 243 n anderson

[cobalt spear]

.375

No .300 lol

[sour raven]

#prioritise fixing duck hunting bugs

[azure crag]

Not only can you not share a blind, you can't even be within 200+m of each other if you try to call in birds in MP. You essentially have to hunt separate areas entirely.

[sour raven]

Yo @hidden hound

Look at dms

[hidden hound]

OK

[sour raven]

YAY

[twin spindle]

there is a blind that can fit 2 iirc

[sour raven]

Im listening

[azure crag]

It's not about fitting, proximity to another player in MP when bird hunting causes the birds to spook no matter what.

[twin spindle]

So? this loadout still covers all classes possible in the least amount of guns needed

[twin spindle]

Right but u can reenter no?

[azure crag]

There are multiple combinations which do that, but if you really want a full-coverage setup with the fewest guns possible, a single bow or crossbow does it 😄

[twin spindle]

still no reason for 2 players to be in exact same zone

farming birds

[sour raven]

To have fun!

[twin spindle]

yeah i mean outside of bows or crossbows

that is pretty self explanatory really

[azure crag]

No, it's bugged to where no matter what you do geese or ducks won't come in if you and another player are anywhere within 200m of each other, possibly more.

[twin spindle]

.375 or .300 + frost 257 + .22lr

that's best in slot weapon that fits every 1-9 class

afaik.

[vernal goblet]

Gorgeous

[foggy sleet]

I did not know how good their piebald looked

[hidden hound]

Lol like clay pigeon shooting pulls n best shot wins lol

[foggy sleet]

I realized I like never hunted med ved

[hidden hound]

Piebald has picked up alot looks terrible on crocs lol

[foggy sleet]

I like the light brown more than the piebald on crocs

[azure crag]

It's not the best, I don't really think there are any best weapon calibers. It depends on what sort of performance you want from a rifle. For example, the .22h is better than any .22lr in terms of ballistic performance, but the .22lr is significantly quieter. Same goes for many other weapons choices, your engagement range and even specific target species will dictate what firearm works best. For me the 45-70 handgun beats the .370 simply because it only weighs 1lb and can effectively take down Moose at 300m, and since I only shoot large game if they happen to be extraordinary, I don't need a rifle with multiple rounds.

[foggy sleet]

Nice I want a mela

[hidden hound]

The alb looks good

[azure crag]

Goals

[hidden hound]

I actually use em coast to hone my long range skills

[azure crag]

Once you master that, try duck and Pheasant at 400m

[bronze aspen]

i hit a turkey 400 out

[twin spindle]

but objcetively 45-70 is worse than .300 and 375

[hidden hound]

I hit a pheasant at 310 on Germany

[bronze aspen]

salzwiesen is doodoo

unless ur a big bird guy

and i also think pheasant is a bad g1 in terms of the animal

[azure crag]

Define objectively. The 45-70 handgun can penetrate and heart or lung shot a moose at 300m, which is what I need from a rifle. If I don't need more than a single round or double lung potential, then the lower weight of the handgun makes it superior.

[azure crag]

I got mine with this shot 😄

[bronze aspen]

damn

[hidden hound]

I lost all my lodges n progress from 2018 to 2025 lol had to start from scratch again last month

[bronze aspen]

same twin

[twin spindle]

also

why doe selectronic caller

not have wood bison on caller?

i thought it has all species ona map

[bronze aspen]

sometimes it jus doesnt have em

[peak cosmos]

you cant call wood bison they're too stupid

[haughty comet]

I have so many level 4 and 5 red deer on the new map and I'm about to crash out over it

[hidden hound]

Not if its not callable

[azure crag]

Some species don't have calls period. Good luck calling Kangaroo.

[hidden hound]

Roos close = threat lol

[azure crag]

The electronic caller will call species that can be called.

[cobalt spear]

• gators for some reason

[peak cosmos]

they like vibrations

[cobalt spear]

Weird decision by ew but who's arguing

[azure crag]

Gators can be called. 🎯

[bronze aspen]

was finna say that

[peak cosmos]

not me, let me get my piebald from a treestand

[twin spindle]

ty

[twin spindle]

Yes but this is only important if you for some reason care baout weight

An usual meta loadout can fit without a backpack..

[hidden hound]

I got ganged by badgers come out my tent to boar grind then red screen ran in to me no chance to move

[twin spindle]

unless ur setting up tents and blinds

those take alot of weight

but u dont run with them always, only to place em

[hidden hound]

Ye my grind 16 tents 8 pods 8 feeders

[sour raven]

@hidden hound Can I join you on your boar grind?

[hidden hound]

I'm not grinding at min bro

[sour raven]

damn

[hidden hound]

I'm chatting n Aving a coffee

[sour raven]

How bout later?

[bronze aspen]

can i join u too and i call every diamond u see and g1

even if ur offline

[sudden crag]

Hi, I'm new to the discord channel. Been playing the game for a few years now. I have over 800 hours of play time on my PS5.

[bronze aspen]

u save it for me

[hidden hound]

Welcome n hi

[twin spindle]

is this where the actual oneshot neck part is for all species? i know i didnt need to do it to this poor pheasant lol but was training aim

[hidden hound]

Dimes n all that don't mean nout to me tbf just fun playing lol

[peak cosmos]

any bone in the neck is gonna kill it instantly

[twin spindle]

someone said it's only the certain part

[bronze aspen]

all neck shots kill

insta

[twin spindle]

not the whole neck bone

[bronze aspen]

yes the whole neck bone?

[twin spindle]

it is? oh cool then

[peak cosmos]

if you hit neck its gonna hit the cord

[twin spindle]

what if it hit this blue non red part of neck

[vivid halo]

Any one play on Xbox

[twin spindle]

(for other species not pheasant ofc)

[azure crag]

Meta isn't really an applicable term for this game. There are easy weapons for general play that make hunts more forgiving for those who tend to take quick shots, but for players that don't need the extra penetration or the larger mag size, those "benefits" are often not worth the downside, such as excessive weight or being noisy.

Take my favorite rifle, the .45 Cyclone. It's a class 2-4 and has an effective range of 50m, making it, on paper, a terrible weapon compared to the Ranger .243, but it has one of the highest Expansion rated rounds in the entire game, and if you learn how to use it, it can effectively hunt out to 300m, while being as silent as a Bow.

Since I have learned how to manage the Cyclone's bullet drop, it's silence and extreme knockdown power make it a far better choice for class 2-4 animals than any other firearm.

[bronze aspen]

yes also kill

[twin spindle]

pheasant dies anywhere

[peak cosmos]

all bones in the neck kill

[twin spindle]

cool, ty

[hidden hound]

I love neck shots but you got to becareful

[peak cosmos]

it is technically the cord that counts as a vital, but youre pretty much never going to hit the bone and not the cord

[bronze aspen]

i killed a fallow

w a 22 air rifle to a neck shot

[twin spindle]

Expansion is the damage it does to the organs right?

Now im not saying ur not valid for that all im just saying is there's always meta in every singular game

No game on this world exists where there is not a meta applicable term

[sour raven]

Best rifle for 2-4 and then 5-7?

[twin spindle]

That's usually defined by BiS (best in slot) of say an item, etc etc.

[twin spindle]

I just use frost 257 for 2-6 in general

[humble hawk]

whats the best map to start a whitetail grind on

[twin spindle]

therre's no reason to use a rifle specifically for 2-4 if u have frost 257 that covers more of it and also instakills anything under it

[sour raven]

alr

[cobalt spear]

.257 for 2-3, .303 for 4-6

And .375 for 7-9

[twin spindle]

What can 303 at 4-6 instakill that a .257 can't at 4-6?

[oak orbit]

same haha

[twin spindle]

btw @azure crag if you mean the pistol from high caliber pack, it's also one of my favorite pistols

I like that and use it, to oneshot mooses to lung or heart at any range

[cobalt spear]

Basically everything class 5-6

[oak orbit]

frost 257 is great rifle

[hidden hound]

If u hit upper neck u won't hit cord

[twin spindle]

But objectively, if weight isnt an issue, just use a .300 or 375

[twin spindle]

but will it still be an instakill?

thats what i wanna know

does it have to be specifically cord

[cobalt spear]

Never aim for spinal cord

[tender holly]

If I have two solo zones that are very irrelevant and one is small should i shoot them down to reposition them(red deer)

[cobalt spear]

Either go for lungs or neck

[hidden hound]

Yes it specifies spinal

[vivid halo]

Any one on Xbox

[hidden hound]

Most spinal shots ruin scores cos they hit to much

[azure crag]

Expansion is trauma dmg to flesh and excessive bleeding Penetration helps to reach the organs.

For the .45 Cyclone in particular, it has mediocre Pen, even with it's round-nose pellet, but it's Hollow-Point round has an Expansion rating of 75, and just enough penetration to single-lung a class 3-4 at 300m. Because it's HP round does so much immediate dmg, on top of more severe bleeding, the animals are often incapable of running more than 10-20m when hit with it. It may be the only rifle in the game where the expansion round is actually better than the penetrating round, with the exception of like.. 2 species of class 4 animal.

[cobalt spear]

Yeah cuz spinal ain't a vital

[tender holly]

If I have two solo zones that are very irrelevant and one is small should i shoot them down to reposition them(red deer)

[vivid halo]

Any one play on Xbox

Any one just wana know

[hidden hound]

N it hits inverts stomach intestine ect

[cobalt spear]

No

[tender holly]

What should I do with em

[twin spindle]

hitting stomach and intestine ruins score?

[cobalt spear]

Leave the small one, shoot
the big one if it's level 5 or bigger

[cobalt spear]

Hitting them alone yes

They aren't vitals

[sour raven]

Best gun for hunting hogs?

[hidden hound]

Accept on haggis lol

[cobalt spear]

.303

[sour raven]

gotcha

[hidden hound]

308

[oak orbit]

either ir

or

[azure crag]

What I mean is that what's "meta" in this game varies a lot by how you play.

[oak orbit]

303 308 both work fine

[hidden hound]

Definitely

[oak orbit]

i used the quist reaper a bit too lol

[cobalt spear]

.303

They asked for best

[vivid halo]

Bro any one wana play

[cobalt spear]

Yeah the people in #🦌︴find-a-game

[hidden hound]

Lol so them stalker 308 lol

[twin spindle]

Meta is never subjective in any game, it's why its called meta

[vivid halo]

I knn no ow😭😭

[oak orbit]

well in the hunter

[cobalt spear]

.303 actually

Best 4-8 rifle

[sour raven]

I know im bouta sound super dumb but do I have to buy that with IRL money? Like is it in a pac?

pack*

[oak orbit]

each weapon has pro and con tbh theres many good ones that are equal across playing field but class wise there is “best guns” but not a single loadout that is “OP”

[cobalt spear]

It comes with te awaroa

[twin spindle]

Ah got it, but lets say even if you use .45 Cyclone in particular for maximum bleeding and organs damage, even if you don't need the pen at 3-4 class, why not just use say a frost 257 that covers 2-6 classes and has both pen altho iirc not that good expansion damage but it dosnt matter in the end because the same gun drops anything and also doublelungs at that class + covers more classes?

and iirc .257 is considered BiS for what it covers

[cobalt spear]

So if you got that map, you can have the .303

[sour raven]

damn

[peak cosmos]

the best gun is the CB-65

[azure crag]

Meta means "most effective tactics available", so what tactic is "meta" depends on the situation. It is, by it's very definition, subjective based on the situation it's used for.

[twin spindle]

Well, let me rephrase. Best in slot then. BiS.

[azure crag]

Silence. The .45 Cyclone is as quiet as a bow.

[cobalt spear]

This^^^ There is 100% a no. 1 best gun depending on what you're going for

[twin spindle]

Surely there are weapons that are BiS in certain classes.

that they cover

[peak cosmos]

why are you so obsessed with finding the meta like youre not planning to neck shot everything anyway

[cobalt spear]

.375 for big game casual, .300 for grinding, .303 for medium game casual, .257 for small game, 12ga cacciatore for birds

[hushed echo]

Best gun for crocodile?

[oak orbit]

yea but here birds for ex, the 12g caccaitore, OP, but you can also use the .22LR if u arent close range,

300

arzyna

[peak cosmos]

.257 i love you for saving me from that dastardly .243

[cobalt spear]

.300 if you're going for neck shots, .375 for lungs

[oak orbit]

243 is so dog

[twin spindle]

why .300 for crocs over .375 for crocs?

[oak orbit]

yep

[twin spindle]

i do still use 300 for crocs eitherway

[sour raven]

@cobalt spear Do you have the te awaroa map?

[cobalt spear]

yes

[azure crag]

Take the .300 and the .370 as an example. Both cover the same class and have similar performance, but the .370 hits harder while the .300 has a flatter trajectory and better ballistics, making the .370 a better projectile choice for big game shots at 300m or less, and the .300 better for high precision shots at 300+m.

[tulip olive]

I normally carry a .270 and .308 or .300

[obsidian wedge]

@azure crag Are you looking at perks unlocked or points spent? I'm using 22pts on PS5 but the Stalker is 4/13 and the Ambusher is 8/13, which would suggest 12pts at first glance until you realize multiple points are put into individual perks. .... At level 60 I thought it was all unlocked oh oh oh 4/6 4/6 4/6 0/6 oh oh oh ,,, perks spent 9 perk spent 6 perk spent 7 yes 22 ok lol

[sour raven]

Mind if I could join you in that to see if I should buy it?

[cobalt spear]

I don't have xbox live

[azure crag]

I've been there too bud 😆

[sour raven]

Im on pc anyways...

[cobalt spear]

Just join a random multiplayer server. Make sure it's not modded

[sour raven]

kk

[obsidian wedge]

ok 9 perks spent 4/6 , 7 perk spent 4/6 , 7 perks spent 4/6 total 22 perks spent lol

[oak orbit]

te is a super easy map tons of animals and good G1s

100% recommend for new players

[hidden hound]

It has better overall stats accept bullet pen if I remember right

303 is 40 308 is 44

[azure crag]

I prefer the .300 for crocs due to it's ballistics being more reliable at longer ranges, while still retaining the ability to penetrate for lung shots when a neck shot isn't readily available. The .370 would be a better choice if I didn't routinely engage them at 300-400m. That's not to say the .370 can't engage at that range, it just doesn't do it as well as the .300.

[cobalt spear]

Those stats mean nothing lmao

.303 performs better in game

Also flatter shooting in my experience

[hidden hound]

So drooling I concealed the 303 is better overal

[twin spindle]

Also rocky mountain bighorn sheep is not available in electronic caller?

[cobalt spear]

Pretty much

[cobalt spear]

They don't have a caller so no

[mild prism]

Could the hagis hunt clue #2 mean take a number 2 like poo so has anyone measured the time it take a red deer to poo

[cobalt spear]

Far as i'm aware at least

[hidden hound]

Abillion percent

[obsidian wedge]

Revontuli coast I like Moradi Model 1894 , with bow my aim isn't that good at 300 meters yet need more practice with the other guns.

long range class 9 animal which is best 375?

[azure crag]

Hitting targets with a bow at 300m would be absolutely incredible marksmanship

I've got mine dialed in to 150m and that's as far as I'll risk a shot.

[twin spindle]

long range .300 is better for class 9 compared to .375

.300 fires flatter than .375

[obsidian wedge]

lol oh no i use bow short range. I'm finding need zones dont want to scare them off.

[twin spindle]

but .375 has more pen and overall is stronger

so w/e

both oneshot at lungs and doublelungs anyways

[obsidian wedge]

Thanks

[hidden hound]

From extensive testing the millidot on scope is around 30m extra perdot on bow

[azure crag]

This will vary by arrow type as well*

[hidden hound]

Indeed

[azure crag]

I use the Mil-Dot 02 Sight customization on my crossbow scope to extend the range considerably. It's a bit cheeky but it works. 😆

[faint geyser]

W chat gpt

It continued for 3 more minutes

(I needed to stop it)

[hidden hound]

Ye but tactical lol

I mean testing on crocs ect I can take a 350 plus neck shot with instant kill

[azure crag]

I've never felt so bad for a rabbit. The pose it took when I shot it 💀

[hidden hound]

Haha

I got 1 having a scratch lol

[nimble sequoia]

DUCK AND COVER!!!

[hidden hound]

SHe was washing lol

https://youtu.be/KWZcPrlXUpA?si=INAnKG19I2U9PTTR

This was a good Croc shot

[twin spindle]

also @azure crag the pistol u mentioned that u say is enough for ur big game hunting coz u dont really hunt much larger game, it has only 1 bullet and has to be reloaded every single time, so no follow up shots

so 🤷🏻‍♂️

is that the one from high caliber pack?

if we think of the same

[azure crag]

Correct, which is irrelevant since I only tend to target large game that is exceptionally rare, and I don't miss. So no need to follow up.

[obsidian wedge]

found 5 moose need zones 16-20 north of lake -9964. 9507 crossbow Revontuli Coast

[bronze aspen]

that ones cool

i like the moradi

[hidden hound]

My m8 uses the rhino alot

[foggy sleet]

He was a guaranteed diamond at lvl 4

My third diamond moose but no rare males

[twin spindle]

but what if you get yourself into this situation? no reason not to follow up and get free other ones

I didnt even know this many bisons could spawn.

Just randomly found their drink zone

[hidden hound]

Since loosing all my progress I only been on 3 maps since returning

[foggy sleet]

Pray for the freezing bug and mow them down fr

[twin spindle]

True oll

lol

[obsidian wedge]

454 handgun takes down Bison easy 100 pentration

[twin spindle]

idk who to shoot first

all are like 3-4

[hidden hound]

4s if u hm

[knotty venture]

so back packs are actually usable now?

[foggy sleet]

Had that happen to me with red deer and I had pretty decent respawns

I kinda want and don’t want a great one moose

[hidden hound]

Yes

[foggy sleet]

Like the grind might be cool cuz I want a SR moose

But if I grind and I get one of those butt ugly racks I’d cry

[azure crag]

So, another example of where one man's meta is another man's "meh", the .22 I consider to be the best is the Zarza, and I prefer it over the Virant, which I know is often considered the BiS for
22lr.

I prefer the Zarza for it's superior recoil and quieter shooting compared to the Virant. The Zarza also has faster reload, but I don't value that much. The Zarza only has a 5rd mag, though, while the Virant has a 10rd mag. That 10rd mag is why most consider it the best .22, but I have never been in a position where I needed more than 5rds, so the Virant, for me specifically, is objectively worse than the Zarza.

Likewise, for the 45-70, I carry it only for the rare Diamond, Great One or Rare Fur Type, large class animal that I might run into. I have no interest in hunting large game at all, so if I run into a large herd of bison I'm going to ignore them in favor of the rabbit that may be underfoot.

[raven wren]

is there anyone who is down to hop on a vc and hunt with me and my buddy, we are kind of new, but we have the hang of it.

rn?

we have every dlc btw

almost

[azure crag]

What's your platform?

[hidden hound]

Anderson pistol for me

[raven wren]

pc

[twin spindle]

That is valid but no reason to skip a herd of like 15 bisons in one drink zone

With a 375 or 300 you drop at least 7-8

before they all flee

thats like 10k money easily.

[azure crag]

If it didn't have such bad long range ballistics I'd take it too, for the weight! Sadly it can't easily manage 300m shots.

[oak orbit]

xbox?

[oak orbit]

nvm

[hidden hound]

That new 1-2rifle is shite tbf loud asf

[azure crag]

It's also a blown need zone and potential disruption of rare animals I do care about. If I need money I'll just wear out geese and make 10k every 2 mins.

[twin spindle]

This is the pistol i used to drop moose, but i think its bad t range? i only did it at like 100m

i have that one too

[azure crag]

Look at the range in that screenshot.

[hidden hound]

Nah but I can hit rifle range with it

[twin spindle]

So does it have any drop or ?

It's a pistol after all.

Although higher caliber i guess.

[hidden hound]

By whitch I.mean class 1 rifle lol

[azure crag]

You mean the .22mag? It is, and it has worse ballistics than the .22h. It seems to have better stopping power below 200m though. But if I'm gonna use a loud rifle for class 1 I'm gonna use the Hornet.

[foggy sleet]

What’s the best map for g1 moose grind

Or g1 red deer

[hidden hound]

Ye hornet is great

[foggy sleet]

I’m thinking of a red deer grind on Scotland

[azure crag]

At 300m, with a 16x scope, you need to aim with the first mil-dot to bullseye with that pistol.

It can handle class 4-7 at 400m+.

[foggy sleet]

It’s just fitting

[potent crag]

revontuli or medved

[foggy sleet]

I can do med ved

Just pray I get the pretty rack

[potent crag]

no floaters on medved

alot of zones tho if you want to manage

[foggy sleet]

Idk how to herd manage I was just thinking of shooting males till something spawns

[hidden hound]

M8 freeze glitch is crazy

[crude edge]

Hey does anyone know of the servers are still down for multi-player?

[potent crag]

medved is your way to go then, they stand out against the snow aswell, only time an albino will blend in

[hidden hound]

Gangsta goat lol

[twin spindle]

So you mean the second dot?

to account for the drop at 400m

and i suppose at 300m u can just hit point on?

[azure crag]

No, the handgun zeros up to 200m, and at 300m you need to use the first mil-dot, below the center.

[twin spindle]

Oh right.

But surely not better ballistics than .300 or similar

[azure crag]

That's if you're using a 16x zoom though. At 8x zoom it's halfway between the center crosshairs and the first dot.

[twin spindle]

So it's still suboptimal at range compared to that I guess

[foggy sleet]

Sounds good to me

[green bay]

goat,

[hidden hound]

My boy just said he hunts reindeer with pistol 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

[foggy sleet]

I want the black and white fur and the typical rack

I think the rest of the racks are ugly asf

[twin spindle]

Wait, why does dots on scope matter if its zeroed eitherway?

[foggy sleet]

All the antlered g1s are really ugly except for red deer

[hidden hound]

To allow for distance drop

[nimble sequoia]

drop

[azure crag]

The 45-70 is a large caliber designed to hold It's power at long ranges, but isn't capable of extreme penetration at any range. It's actually kind of weird to look at, because it's performance is almost exactly the same whether shooting at point blank or beyond 300m. Look at these two for example.

[cobalt spear]

I'm not holding anything tho

[twin spindle]

Now im confused, if a gun is zeroed at say 150m, the center of the dot at 150m will always hit

So not sure what he meant

[nimble sequoia]

lmao

[cobalt spear]

Correct

[hidden hound]

Right quick explanation if ur max range was 200m n ur quarry was at 300m using millidot sight you would center first drop down dot on the target

[twin spindle]

one drop down is 100m?

[cobalt spear]

No

It's different for every gun

[azure crag]

If a weapon is zeroed to 200m, that means the bullet will land dead on at 200m, but still drops beyond that. So a handgun zeroed at 200m won't hit head on at 300m. Same with any other gun, even rifles with extremely good ballistics like the .300. The .45 requires a comical amount of aim adjustment and even zoom management to get it to accurately hit at 300m using mil-dots.

Other, similar rifles such as the .22lr, .22mag and .22h all have wildly different ballistics as well, and will perform drastically different at long range, with only the .22h being capable of hitting 400m at 16x zoom.

[hidden hound]

Ye on the gun he told u to use

[obsidian wedge]

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0?ui=2&ik=658cadce08&attid=0.1&permmsgid=msg-a:r-4068690524863130164&th=19b48c1f4101c551&view=att&disp=safe&realattid=f_mjhw1hl72&zw

[potent crag]

that’s way to vague of an explanation first of all lol, altitude, wind direction and bullet velocity all play in the role

[obsidian wedge]

tried to drag and post picture lol

[twin spindle]

as far as i know

wind doesnt affect guns

only bows

[cobalt spear]

Wind only affects arrows

[twin spindle]

bullet velocity would only affect how fast it gets to the zeroed range

not the drop itself, afaik.

[azure crag]

Wind direction seems irrelevant to rifles, and only affects arrows and bolts. I bullseye with a .22h at 400m with no correction for windage.

[cobalt spear]

Slower bullets have more drop

[potent crag]

if you’re trying to be accurate no, anything over 300m you do need to account for wind

[azure crag]

No.

[hidden hound]

I did say quick explanation lol

[cobalt spear]

I've made 400m shots with terrible wind and only had to account for bullet drop

[azure crag]

The only reason I still play this game is to make comically long shots at comically small targets. Windage is never a factor for rifles.

[potent crag]

ammo dependence

[chrome vault]

Anyone that can let me play with in them in your map I’m on Xbox

[cobalt spear]

Hows the drop for .22h compared to .22lr?

[twin spindle]

400m shot means ur using render distance mod...

doesn't it?

[cobalt spear]

Never fiddled with .22h long shots

[peak cosmos]

dudes still trying to get put onto some whitetail bucks

[cobalt spear]

No..

[twin spindle]

dont uhh

animals stop showing

at like 300 or something?

at least for me idk

[cobalt spear]

You can do longer shots the higher you are

[twin spindle]

No i mean u cant even see animals past a certain point

[cobalt spear]

Render distance is 420m horizontally

But vertically there is no render distance

[chrome vault]

Yes

[twin spindle]

idk exact number tho, but i kow people have mods for increasing it (just to make it easier to see before approaching)

[peak cosmos]

max is like 415 and you can stretch it with altitude

[azure crag]

Unreal. The .22h can stay at 16x zoom and use the 4th Mil-Dot on the Mil-Dot 02 sight and hit dead-on. The .22lr can't hit 400m at all at the range because you have to aim so high you hit the range cover structure.

[cobalt spear]

So pythagorean theorem that shish and boom you get crazy far shots

[cobalt spear]

Wow

[azure crag]

I'm on PS5, no mods. Render distance is somewhere between 420 and 450m.

[cobalt spear]

I need to use the .22h more tbh

[azure crag]

Render distance kills on small game is incredibly satisfying 😆

[cobalt spear]

I need to try that 600m shot on a chamois on te

Never got around to doing that

[azure crag]

I wish I could make shots that far 😭

Everything disappears around 450m

[cobalt spear]

Same, i just make bad pot shots and pray it hits

[azure crag]

If I could pick one mod it would be a 700m render distance mod. Idk if the PS5 could take 1000m.

[hidden hound]

There's a trophies called legendary marksman if u hit 438 yards

[hidden hound]

Ye I got it aswell

Posted a vid earlier of 387 Croc neck shot insta kill lol

[azure crag]

I love the crocs, they're so dumb.

[hidden hound]

Yup

I love how a spotted animals glow drops on kill lol

[azure crag]

I need to make a video showing how to land shots with the air rifle at 250-300m. It took a lot of messing with my scope to dial this thing in.

[twin spindle]

why air rifle specifically?

[twin spindle]

There's a 1000m mod on PC if ur PC can handle it, but I don't know if it's considered cheating

[hidden hound]

Alot of us use the air rifles not shotguns for the skill shots n fun

[peak cosmos]

it definitely is

[twin spindle]

But why? It's just being able to see the animal before u approach the 400m mark

U still have to get closer and shoot

The reason the game doesnt support higher render distance is 100% because it had consoles in mind.

[peak cosmos]

because its not part of the game so it gives you an edge over other players, its not fair play

[twin spindle]

Consoles can't handle those ranges.

[azure crag]

It's as silent as a bow, at the detriment of having an effective range of only 50m, and a long range zero at 100m. Because it's ballistics are so severe it reaches free fall at about 225m, so longer shots require some pretty silly tinkering with the scope to accurately account for the bullet drop, and still effectively use mil-dots.

A 300m shot with the air rifle is far more difficult than any other rifle shot. It's comparable to making a 150-200m bow shot in terms of aim-adjustment.

[azure crag]

PS5, sadly. Ol controller and default settings for me.

[lofty adder]

How do I stop the wolves from scaring away one of my zones?

[hidden hound]

Pc 9 times out of 10 gives advantages always like in pvp some pvp games won't allow cross play coss it's unfair

[twin spindle]

The advantage you mention in pvp games is simply because mouse + keyboard is superior, but consoles can use m&k too...

And consoles do get aim assist, so I digress.

[azure crag]

And games that do allow crossplay, console players often disable it 😆

[hidden hound]

Yup like arc raiders

[vivid halo]

Any one wana play

[bronze aspen]

guys its a solveable problem

[azure crag]

Choot 'em

[bronze aspen]

lets sue the companies and get us all a pc!

[vernal goblet]

I love the air rifle in theory. It never hits where I aim though :/. Even with the zeroing perk.

[junior marsh]

#🦌︴find-a-game is your go to for that!

[azure crag]

I actually have a PC, but modders/hackers make gaming on it annoying for certain games. Unless it's like, Warframe, or a PC exclusive, I'm playing on my PS5.

[azure crag]

I can fix that.

[twin spindle]

You can play Warframe even on mobile and not have a disadvantage over PC

[hidden hound]

I have a gaming pc as I use to create content meaning maps n venues for pc games but I pref console

[azure crag]

Yeah that's why I mentioned it.

[vernal goblet]

Teach me your ways

[azure crag]

You want my Zeroing cheat sheet for the .45?

[twin spindle]

Well, it seems I got warned for talking about mods here. Eventhough I don't mod.

But it is what it is.

[vernal goblet]

I just wanna pop a deer where I aim at his lung and not hit his ass 😭

[vernal goblet]

Plz

[woven sage]

I have a question. I want to do a feral goat grind so wich map do you guys think would be best for it and easiest when it comes to drink zones and stuff

[junior marsh]

The rules my friend. The rules lol

[hidden hound]

Oh there's rules to follow like fur type percentages we can say rare very rare but not name em

Like start talking about rng ur be told to stop

[hidden hound]

Scotland

[twin spindle]

Well I thought rules were about modding as in cheating.

[nimble sequoia]

has to do with any and every discussion of mods/modding

basic references to correct people are fine and excused

[woven sage]

Wouldn’t Scotland be hard to find the zones since they drink in like the swampy kind of water

[nimble sequoia]

but say baselessly accusing other people, promoting mods, or having extended discussions on them is against the rules

[vernal goblet]

I like Australia for goats. Theyre everywhere

[hidden hound]

Nope lol

[woven sage]

Yes but also the drink zones are very hard to find in Australia

[hidden hound]

To wide tbf

[twin spindle]

Well I just mentioned it because the guy made a long range shot so I was curious if that was with a mod for render, but I digress not even that is allowed.

[peak cosmos]

yeah you would know that if you read the rules

[nimble sequoia]

unless it was further than like 450m there's no suspicion on distance for render changes

[twin spindle]

Yes im not accusing them

I was just curious.

[hidden hound]

All down s shape rivers are great drink zones for goats on scotland

[woven sage]

I think I’ll do Australia then since it’s very ope

Ooooh

[twin spindle]

@nimble sequoia is not even cosmetic and graphical talk allowed (as in not just mods, even some monitors have those built in or your GPU software but also a mod could fill that role)

Example DLSS and realistic skins etc (in the form of mod or official software)

[woven sage]

See but there’s not enough information on where feral goats drink on Scotland

And I need all the zones

[nimble sequoia]

anything that modifies game files in any way would be a mod, cosmetic or not; settings from GPU software like DLSS etc are fine

[hidden hound]

Them markers are good are very good

[woven sage]

Ok I’m doing it on Scotland thanks guys

[cobalt spear]

You can shoot farther than that

[nimble sequoia]

yeah duck render is a thing

[oak orbit]

my buddy did his feral grind on emerald

he has SR mixed

[nimble sequoia]

i think max ive ever seen legit is like 580

[cobalt spear]

No for regular animals

[nimble sequoia]

SRP mtn goat right?

[cobalt spear]

You can go like 600m with enough elevation

[cobalt spear]

Te chamois/tahr

[nimble sequoia]

ye old geometry

[oak orbit]

we did it last year around this time i helped herd manage it

[nimble sequoia]

ahhhhh makes sense

[hidden hound]

Emeral is good but alot of work to find zoneslol

[azure crag]

Okay, so first some basics for the Mil-Dot system-

Some players say it doesn't work for the 16x scope. That's either outdated or wrong. Either way, ignore the mathematics behind how to use mil-dots to determine range from a target, we don't care about that, we just want to hit the target.

For 200m or closer shots, the Hyperion or Argus Scope will work. The Angler does not work for this, do not waste your money giving it mil-dots. For 300m shots, the Hyperion is necessary.

0-100m shots should be largely self explanatory, so I will skip these. Rifle will always be at 100m zero for shots beyond 100m.

For 125-200m shots, you have two options, depending on whether you have the 8x or 16x scope unlocked.

For the 16x scope, every mil-dot represents a 25m bullet drop beyond 100m, up to 225m. Beyond this, the bullet enters free fall and will drop faster than 25m/dot. So, if you are shooting at 125m, you will use the first mil-dot as your crosshair. At 150m, your 2nd mil-dot. At 175m, your third mil-dot. Beyond this, you will need the Mil-Dot 02 Sight, available in a DLC, to add a 4th and final Mil-Dot, for 200m shots at 16x zoom.

Iif you are using the Hyperion, at 8x zoom, each mil-dot will represent 50m of bullet drop, so if a target is 125m away, you will aim halfway between the center crosshair and the first mil-dot. At 150m, the first mil-dot will be your crosshair. At 175m, between the first and second mil-dot. At 200m, the second mil-dot. At 225m, between the second and third mil-dot. Beyond this, the bullet starts free falling quickly.. A 250m shot, at 8x zoom, will hit dead on if you rest the 3rd mil-dot on top of the bullseye in the range. At 300m, you need the Mil-Dot 02 Scope Sight customization for the 4th Mil-Dot.

At 300m, you have two options to land accurate shots-

Option 1: you will hit 300m targets if you are at 8x Zoom and aim between the 4th Mil-Dot and the bottom of the crosshair.

Option 3: reduce zoom to 7x, and use the 4th mil-dot. You will bullseye.

[twin spindle]

Is animals freezing a bug?

[oak orbit]

essentially hyperion, 100m zero and every dot down is 50m based on the spot distance u can determine the line position between dots

argus is trash anyways

[azure crag]

Up to 225m, yes. Beyond that the bullet gets angsty.

[oak orbit]

for me i hit 300m at bottom of scope light work

but ive killed 1000 beavers with the air rifle at 150m+ haha

[azure crag]

Yeah, if you have the standard mil-dot you can use the bottom of the scope, but having that 4th mil-dot makes pinpoint shooting much more reliable.

[oak orbit]

going for SR beaver, i’ve perfected mil dot aiming, air rifle is OP

[oak orbit]

fair

i just use the solid line at base of scope as 300m mark

[azure crag]

A hunter after my own heart

[oak orbit]

beyond that i just dont shoot

[oak orbit]

telling u bro that thing is cracked

and the beavers only alert if u shoot 3 times consecutive

2 shots back to back and they just think two of their buddies fell asleep

[twin spindle]

whats the point of shooting at those extreme ranges anyways?

[oak orbit]

so u can take out a TON of them i heard managed my beavers in like 600 kills 🔥🔥

[twin spindle]

You still have to go down and get the corpse lol

[azure crag]

Yeah I can't justify any other rifle for class 3-4 animals when the air rifle exists honestly. With exception to like, 2 class 4 species that it just won't reliably penetrate beyond 200m, it's an absolute beast of a stealth rifle.

[oak orbit]

no worry of the animal spotting u

[twin spindle]

They wont spot you even at 200-300, no?

[oak orbit]

they can spot usually at -150

[twin spindle]

Usually alert is iirc 150m reasonably

Yeah

Actually i think they are coded to be alrrt even before aka know ur presence

But womt do shi until ur 150.

[azure crag]

Other than sheer joy, it allows you to take out entire groups without anything spooking. You can literally stand hunt an entire herd of deer without any of them running.

[twin spindle]

Can this be done with any other gun except air rifle?

[oak orbit]

i tend to stay 150+ but animals can always be 50m give or take from a zone so sometimes i end up taking 200m shots most of the time

[oak orbit]

this can be done with all weapons

if u dont have zeroing unlocked

[twin spindle]

I have zeroing perk.

[oak orbit]

all weapons have bullet drop

well, even with zeroing perk

some only zero to 150

so u have to use mildots for shots past

[twin spindle]

Mildots is the paid dlc right?

[oak orbit]

200m shot would be 150 zero and first dot down

[azure crag]

The .22lr can hunt almost as silently, beyond 200m it won't spook much. For higher class animals, some of the lower caliber options for class 5-6 animals might not spook if you shoot from 300-400m, but iirc anything bigger than a .270 is too loud.

[oak orbit]

not paid dlc i dont think the sights come with them OG

all OG sight have mildot

unless u changed ur reticle

in customization

[azure crag]

Mil-Dots are a sight customization option, but Mil-Dot 02, specifically, is DLC. It adds an additional Mil-Dot for longer ranges.

[twin spindle]

Cool, but the droppage depends on both sights and the weapon used right?

[oak orbit]

ah okay, thx for clarifying

[oak orbit]

only sight

all weapons have the same “bullet drop”

[twin spindle]

Can a .22 lr drop say mid game anyways?

Even if unethical

Coz i might try 400m shots then

[azure crag]

Correct, the weapon used will have different ballistics, and the sight will also effect it. Even how much zoom you use will affect what distance the mil-dots represent. For the
.45 air rifle, 16x Zoom = 25m per mil-dot, and 8x Zoom = 50m per mil-dot.

[twin spindle]

Or 200-300 whatever to practice

[oak orbit]

just know the argus is 25m a dot and the hyperion is 50m a dot, and u can zero out your crosshair from the zeroing perk

[twin spindle]

Since they wont spook then

[oak orbit]

so if an animal is 410m away zero to 300 and drop two dots on the hyperion

.22lr isnt dropping anything but a bird from 400m i dont think haha

[twin spindle]

Where exactly can i change crosshairs?

[azure crag]

If you get a perfect headshot yes, but the range will effect penetration. I've seen folks kill bison instantly with a .22lr to the brain but it was close range.

If you pull off a long range headshot on large game and kill it with a .22lr you'll be the first I've seen.

[oak orbit]

yea thatd be insane

[twin spindle]

I meant stuff like roe deer etc

[azure crag]

Storage, select a sight, and you'll have an option to customize.

[gentle compass]

How many bucks should I be regularly shooting through each rotation for mule deer

[twin spindle]

Thanks

[oak orbit]

from 400m the .22lr hitting anything larger than a bird is like them getting a rock throw at them by a mlb pitcher

[azure crag]

Oh, yeah you can cull them with truncated rounds.

[oak orbit]

might kill em, might not😂

[oak orbit]

facts

[azure crag]

Just aim for the eye and hope for the best 😆

[twin spindle]

Can bullets gain velocity actually if shot from way above?

In this game

I guess its impossible to know where your shot is going if ur gonna attempt 400+m achievement if u dont have the dlc crosshair I guess.

[azure crag]

Most standard rifles don't need nearly that much aim adjustment to land 400m shots, since they zero at 300m.

The .300 for example, will bullseye at 400m if you aim about halfway between the center crosshair and the first mil-dot, if you're at 16x zoom.

Even at 500m, the first mil-dot is too much hold-over.

If you want to engineer a perfect 400m shot, you need to drop your zero to 75m and then the first mil-dot will bullseye.

[twin spindle]

Thanks. I can try that with a 375 too?

this is with hyperion? 50m each for hyperion

[azure crag]

Hyperion at full zoom (8x) or Argus at minimum zoom (also 8x), yes, but that only applies to the Air Rifle. Each weapon has their own ballistics, and their own rules.

[twin spindle]

Ah.

do yo uhave one for 375 maybe?

[azure crag]

The .375 is much more difficult due to it's ballistic "dead zone" basically being 400m. It can't use any mil-dot at 8x or 16x and land at 400m, with any combination of Zeroing, so you need to instead set the zoom to 12x (or use the 12x zoom scope) and set the Zero to 150m. This will make it possible to bullseye at 400m with the first mil-dot

The 16x Zoom scope zooms in 2x intervals, so if you're zoomed in at max, 16x, zoom out 2 clicks to be at 12x.

[twin spindle]

Ty

[twin spindle]

Also wdym ballistic dead zone?

[azure crag]

I'm not sure what the proper term is, but that's what I call it when the parabolics of a projectile stop falling in a predictable manner. IE when they start to fall down faster than they fly forward. The bullets in this game don't travel in a perfect, uniform arc, at the end of their range they start to fall downwards, or free fall, and that's where fine-tuning long range shots gets tricky, because the standard measurements with a mil-dot don't work anymore.

[twin spindle]

I see.

For me, at 405 the animals despawn.

[hidden hound]

Just shot my 2nd leu grouse of the session

[twin spindle]

So hitting the 400m shot isn't that hard, if only you could see the animals lol.

guess ill have to find a resting one

[azure crag]

Right, it's only an achievement for specific rifles. For most it's just "aim where you usually aim" or ever so slightly above.

[twin spindle]

Wait, u cant get that achievement on other rifles?

[azure crag]

No, I mean making the shot itself is only an achievement (impressive) with certain weapons. You'll get the actual trophy/achievement if you land the shot with any weapon lol

Use the .300 on a moose or something in Medved and you can land 400m shots back to back.

[twin spindle]

well why 300 over 375 tho

[cobalt spear]

Flatter shooting but that's it really

[twin spindle]

We dont care about that if we're using mil dots tho

So...

[azure crag]

Scroll up and look at what's needed to make a .375 hit like a .300. The .375 bullet drops faster than the .300 and makes it a PITA outside of 300m compared to the .300

The mil-dots are also only accurate within a few meters of their estimated range, so for the .375 if the target is 420m away and you aim as if it's 400m away, you're going to hit low.

The .300? You'll barely notice.

That bastard doesn't seem to have a ballistic dead zone, and if it does it's beyond render distance.

[azure crag]

There's also one other reason to prefer the .300 over the .375; other perks.

The .300 is so accurate at any range you don't need the Zeroing perk at all to hit reliably with it. At it's default 150m zero it can nail targets out to 500m before it needs to use the first mil-dot, and it shoots so flat it will even bullseye at 50m, where other rifles would shoot high. It has absolutely no dependence on the Zeroing perk, so you can use other perks such as Boomstick, Startle Call, Keen Eye or Tracershot.

[jaunty kayak]

ADD SQUIRRELS PLZ COTW

[azure crag]

I second, third and fourth this.

And put them in every map. Make them sound an alert call if they spot you in a stand. Have them throw nuts at you. The whole nine. 😂

[twin spindle]

so ur telling me

[jaunty kayak]

PERFECT

[twin spindle]

u can just bullseye at 400m with .300?

no need for mildots

[keen crane]

Yo ts song fire onb

[jaunty kayak]

And they add beagles/SQUIRREL dogs

[azure crag]

Not bullseye, at 400m, with 150m zero, you need to aim about 1/2 mil-dot above the target to bullseye. But it's such a flat and predictable trajectory, you can pretty easily feel it out and make solid shots without needing the zero perk at all.

[keen crane]

I use to hunt with a beagle till he died of a heart attack 💔

[jaunty kayak]

That sucks

[keen crane]

Yeah he was a great dog

I lwk trained him to track deer to

[azure crag]

Basically the 300m zero for the .300 is more or less unnecessary. At 300m without the perk it's still shooting flat enough to direct-aim and lung shot a whitetail, even if you don't adjust for the extra 150m of drop.

[jaunty kayak]

He may just be hunting up in heaven rn

[keen crane]

Hopefully

[twin spindle]

I tried this, and the bullet drops low.

@azure crag i still managed to do it at 410m. But I didn't get the achievement?

[gritty bluff]

Does anybody know if red fox drink in the river that separates torr na sithean

[twin spindle]

also why do beavers have no caller on electronic lure?

[azure crag]

Animals that can't be called won't be on the caller. The electronic caller has calls for most species, not all.

[azure crag]

You got any mods installed? Idk how PC trophies work or if MP could affect it.

[twin spindle]

Nope no mods. Yes this is MP.

But was a 410 clean shot

I needed multiple shots at it tho, a few missed

But achievement only cares that you instakill in one shot that hits right?

at 400m+?

[gritty bluff]

Haggis caller

[cobalt spear]

@peak notch

[gritty bluff]

😭

[cobalt spear]

Yes i got mega charizard ex only 200 have been found

Very rare

Psa 10

I got bubble mew too

[solar adder]

Yo we should get like flock mounts for bird species

[cobalt spear]

Factual

[solar adder]

Because I’m a big bird hunter and it would look really nice to have a flock of mallard or something like that, maybe It could fit on a big wall plack, if they do they need to make one for each bird species

[azure crag]

It's possible you need to get an ethical kill. IE shoot a target your gun is meant for.

[twin spindle]

Oh

Well

gotcha

can anyone explain whats the point of blinds if everything starts fleeing the moment u shoot a first shot?

[tiny parcel]

Maybe your guy is too big for his blind. 🤷

[twin spindle]

Im being serious

[tiny parcel]

They have a semi-auto shotgun.

[twin spindle]

No i mean for non birds

[tiny parcel]

Semi-auto rifle then. 😆

[upper hinge]

I think it would be cool to have tigers fighting multimount

[peak notch]

Rule 9 cuzzle

[cobalt spear]

Cuz they come back

[tiny parcel]

Rule #66, you must first bribe the Mods.

[cobalt spear]

^^^ Factual

[nimble sequoia]

also bows

[cobalt spear]

Air rifle🤞

[nimble sequoia]

yuuhhh

[twin spindle]

is .22lr as silent as air rifle?

because when i use .22lr for say wood ducks all of them still fly, or a shotgun, they still fly away after one shot

and when i use vs other non bird animals, they still flee, so idk

[cobalt spear]

Not as much but still pretty silent

[twin spindle]

So can u explain to me whats the best effective use of blinds

and with what weapon

[oak orbit]

blinds are for pressure

thats it

[azure crag]

1- Free first shot.

2- With patience they will return.

3- Blinds, Tripods and other hunting structure drastically reduces hunting pressure. You can shoot 15 animals in a hunting structure without blowing a zone. 30 if you use a bow or crossbow.

4- Some weapons are quite silent and will allow you to kill animals without spooking everything around you. Try a bow, crossbow or the .45 Cyclone Air Rifle. Consecutive shots may alarm them, so keep an eye on the animals' behavior to see if they are alert/attentive.

[oak orbit]

lol

[cobalt spear]

Ducks n decoys

12ga cacciatore

No callers, they're useless

Just decoys

[twin spindle]

well i use electronic ones for wood duck

[oak orbit]

callers are not useless

[twin spindle]

like 30 came

[cobalt spear]

Callers for ducks are

[oak orbit]

i hunt ducks without decoys only electronic caller sometimes

[twin spindle]

but i am curious at what range to go

for tent + shotgun

to not spook em all

[azure crag]

E-Caller is exceptional, all other callers for birds are mid because the birds come to you and get spooked.

[twin spindle]

or whatever

[oak orbit]

yep

[cobalt spear]

^^^ this

[twin spindle]

cause i genuinely dont know what do blinds provide

[azure crag]

Set your caller 50m away from your blind

[oak orbit]

i thoight u meant ALL callers

im like shoot e caller goated

😂

[cobalt spear]

I've had too many mallards land in my blind with callers

[twin spindle]

wil my e-caller i get 30 ducks

easily

with

problem is what am i gonna do with it?

[oak orbit]

facts

[cobalt spear]

E caller is my baby

[oak orbit]

dont even need decoys bro

[twin spindle]

i also place blinds like 40m away

[oak orbit]

lol

[twin spindle]

so

is that good?

[cobalt spear]

Shootem

[oak orbit]

i setup two tripods on my duck spots

[cobalt spear]

I put the decoys 30-40m away from the blind

[twin spindle]

is htis good?

im inside a tent

[cobalt spear]

And just blastem

[cobalt spear]

Put up a blind

[oak orbit]

i setup one on each side of my decoys because ducks land with wind and if wind coming one way i can sit in the other so they dont fly thru me and spook

[cobalt spear]

It conceals you

[twin spindle]

i am inside a blind

yes

but

is blind for 40m range?

[oak orbit]

yea it works

the duck blinds are better

[azure crag]

It's a little close but should be okay. The tent won't conceal you but a blind will. I prefer 50m distance between my caller/decoy and my Tripod.

[oak orbit]

and tripods

[cobalt spear]

All blinds, treestands, tripods and what not work the same way

[oak orbit]

better than a tent blind

[twin spindle]

ys i meant to say blind

[oak orbit]

any blind with more “visibility” options are just inherently better

[twin spindle]

this is how i set it up:

but i dont use tripod only blinds

[cobalt spear]

I use the red dot sight on the cacciatore because the irons suck on it imo, and i put them just close enough to where i can spot them

[twin spindle]

is this how ur spposed to do it?

but what's the strategy?

[azure crag]

If you have access to a Tripod, definitely use them. The elevation will give you an advantage and you'll increase the multi-kills by firing at the group from above. 10/10 hunting structure.

[cobalt spear]

It'd be better to use tripods

[azure crag]

I do the same but with the 10ga!

[twin spindle]

so what are blinds for...

i use the 10ga tho

[azure crag]

Blinds make you almost invisible.

[oak orbit]

the meridian shotgun sight with 12 cacc is op

[twin spindle]

so should i often move spots

or what?

[cobalt spear]

Ground blinds are for bigger game

[oak orbit]

i snipe ducks at 150m with that thing

[azure crag]

Blinds, Tripods, hunting stands etc all make you incredibly difficult to spot.

[cobalt spear]

Duck blinds are for... ducks

Who knew?

[twin spindle]

well they work eitherway?

[upbeat python]

ayy first gold moutain lion 2 off from diamond, 10 hours in

[cobalt spear]

yeah

[twin spindle]

But...

[cobalt spear]

Badly, but yes

[twin spindle]

I still dont understan dhow are ground blinds helping me vs ground?

If i shoot a moose in a blind

[cobalt spear]

They conceal you

[twin spindle]

one moose will always spook the whole herd

so what is the point of it

[cobalt spear]

Animals don't see you in a blind

[azure crag]

Bruh

[oak orbit]

i swear by the shotgun scopes. people hate idk how

[azure crag]

The point.

[cobalt spear]

I use the scope for upland bird hunting and the red dot sight for ducks

I'm a damn sniper with the red dot sight on ducks

[twin spindle]

Fair enough but that means id have to set up a blind really far away from animals + use an air rifle to be silent

for it to make sense, right?

[cobalt spear]

It's a part of the name

It's a blind

[azure crag]

It's because without getting used to them, the difference in lead perspective is difficult to manage. With a 1x sight you barely lead, but with a 4x scope it seems like you're barely leading but actually shooting way too far ahead. Took me a while to get used to it. Thank the devs for the clay range.

And then I realized there's basically never a time when I'd need a scope for birdshot anyhow. 😆

[oak orbit]

also, scope OP for pheasants

[cobalt spear]

Meaning it's for sight of the animal

[azure crag]

Not necessarily, you can use a bow or crossbow to maximize the effect, or you can take a shot and wait for them to come back.

The beauty of hunting structures is that they allow you to harvest more animals in the same spot without creating a dead zone, and if you pair them with feeders/callers you also get the benefit of manipulating your herds to go where you want them to be.

[twin spindle]

So wait, if i shoot a herd from a blind

and ikll lets say one or two

the others spook and run away

and will always come back to the exact same place?

[azure crag]

Right, if there's a reason to return such as a caller, feeder, need zone etc, they will come back once they calm down.

[twin spindle]

I understand that blinds remove high pressure (well lower it)

But I dont understnad how they help you deal with animals outside of it

Because if you're

1. far away=you dont need blinds
   2.if you're close=they all spook regardless

[twin spindle]

Caller is 200m though usually, but when they spook dont most animals run away more than 200m anyways?

[oak orbit]

they dont actually spook if ur close

only if the smell u

they*

[azure crag]

If they're too far or close you're not setting them up right. You can dictate how close/far an animal comes with the E-caller or feeders, or by simply placing them strategically, relative to need zones.

[azure crag]

The caller has a 200m radius of attraction. You can set the caller 200m away from you. This means you can call in animals that are as much as 400m away from you, if you can make 200m shots. Which you should be able to do reliably with every single weapon but bows. And if you're using bows, you can set it 75m away and, with some careful shots and patience, shoot them one at a time without spooking them. Feeders also encourage returns from a long range, and if there's a need zone in the area and within that need zone's hours, they will return regardless.

[twin spindle]

So why do ppl set up blinds and go shotgun?

that'll surely regardless spook ducks or birds

[azure crag]

Because birds are special. Like, short bus special. Birds will fly in every couple of minutes to be shot and don't care whatsoever about hunting pressure.

You can kill, literally, hundreds of ducks or geese in the same spot, back to back, and they'll keep respawning and flying in.

[twin spindle]

I see but no matter what you do if u use shotgun

it will

spook after one shot right?

[azure crag]

Yes, but shotguns are rapid fire and hard to miss with. You can kill 10 birds with 4 shots if you're good, and whatever you miss will fly back 2mins later. The blinds aren't meant to make the animals deaf, so it makes sense that shooting will spook them. Shoot well and it won't matter.

[twin spindle]

Thanks, so i can call wood ducks anywhere or near bodies of water?

i wanna try small gmae hunting now

[lime plover]

can you not hunt with friends for waterfowl anymore? the birds keep fleeing....

[junior inlet]

@lime plover dude im getting the same thing i thought it was so weirdd

[twin spindle]

someone said if ur with another player within 100-200m

it will always flee

its bugged

for now iirc

[lime plover]

i havent played in a year or two. hoppped on witha buddy and anytime we hunt the same spot flee immeditaly. anytime i hunt it solo its fine

[azure crag]

Birds have been bugged, you can't effectively hunt them with anyone else less than 200m from you, possibly more.

[junior inlet]

yeah same thing happened to me i just got a buddy on who hasnt played inforever went to revontuli and everything fleed

[lime plover]

is this new? i used to waterfowl hunt with 2-4 people at a time with no issues D:

[azure crag]

Anywhere within their range. Finding a need zone for them, or just spotting some overhead, will be a good indicator.

[junior inlet]

idk

[azure crag]

AFAIK this has been ongoing basically since the Wild Goose Chase DLC.

[junior inlet]

i added you as a freind if you wanna play tho

[azure crag]

You CAN still hunt birds in MP, you just need to hunt different areas.

[lime plover]

thats so sad you cant hunt waterfowl with friends anymore. hella depressing

[junior inlet]

ffr we need to get devs to fix

[azure crag]

Yeah it's a bug, not a feature, but it's been ongoing and apparently they have already made a few attempts to fix it.

[twin spindle]

@azure crag a blind + 257 for beavers

what do u say is a good range for them to not spook

[azure crag]

I would expect 300-350m for a "proper" rifle to be far enough away that beavers don't spook on a shot, but be aware that near misses WILL spook or alert no matter what you use, and if you have two animals right next to each other, the nearest animal may spook once his friend is shot.

[twin spindle]

So technically only an air rifle at a higher range can do this completely silent?

the most silent is bow/crossbows then air rifle then 22lr right?

[azure crag]

Pretty sure the Air Rifle has the same sound profile as the bow/crossbow, but yeah as far as long range silent weapons go, the Air Rifle is it.

[eternal void]

How rare is it to get a gold albino lion

[azure crag]

It's incredibly rare to get an albino anything. Bronze Albino is rarer than diamond, gold albino might as well be a Great One.

[eternal void]

I just got one

[azure crag]

I reckon you wouldn't have asked otherwise 😆

[twin spindle]

I got a gold albino grouse

[eternal void]

🔥

[twin spindle]

I suppose its as rare as a g1

[azure crag]

Better, since there are no G1 Grouse yet!

[eternal void]

Holy cow can’t believe that just happened

[twin spindle]

Thanks, also do we know mathwise how much reduced hunting pressure is between treestand+tripod+blind?

[tiny parcel]

Don’t forget to test if it’s stacks if you put a tripod on top of a blind underneath a tree stand.

[azure crag]

It's 15 animals, and on the 16th you hit a dead zone. The structures all reduce pressure by the same amount so it doesn't matter which one you use. The tripod is generally considered best because it elevates you.

If you use a Bow or Crossbow while in a structure you can shoot 30 animals, before hitting a dead zone.

[twin spindle]

Thanks, well kinda no reason for me to buy a tripod one or stand one really if i have a blind from tent dlc I guess.

But also

[bronze aspen]

SICK

[twin spindle]

what is the point of that ducks blind

If the rest work the same

[cobalt spear]

so you can shoot stuff above you

[golden holly]

I’ve got 5 hours on the game

And 3 animals killed

what am I doing wrong

[devout talon]

anyone on ps

@azure crag

Wanna play?

[small forge]

If you aren’t hunting drinking zones it’ll really help you out with getting more kills.

[golden holly]

I’m hunting a white tail drink zone at the correct time

[tiny parcel]

What weapon & ammo are you using?

[golden holly]

I’m using the holiday special .270 I think

with a spare .244

and I have like the first scope

[devout talon]

Anyone on ps

[small forge]

You should be knocking them down with that. Are you hunting the same drinking zone or are you branching out a bit?

[tame saffron]

Does anyone want to be my guide for any kind of diamond or great one

[golden holly]

Just got one haha 😭

nice little 120m shot by a lake

it was only a bronze but that’s better then nothing

this gun really packs a punch compaired to the .244

[golden holly]

and no, I’m in the same spot in a tent 8-12

[small forge]

You’d wanna branch out and find other whitetail zones. Hunting pressure from killing so many will delete the drinking zone

You might even find bigger ones some other drinking zone

[devout talon]

@golden holly

R u on ps

[golden holly]

no Xbox

[devout talon]

@small forge r u on ps

[golden holly]

I’m on the stream right on the border of mount kraken and balmont

should I go upstream or somewhere else

[small forge]

No, I’m on Xbox

[devout talon]

K

[small forge]

I’d go Upstream. But to be honest I don’t think it matters. If there’s any body of water there’s a good chance white tail are gonna have a zone there

Except for maybe the ghost lakes on the map. I don’t know if they fixed it but on the map you’d see some bodies of water but once you get to them they just don’t exist

[tiny parcel]

By just exploring, you’ll find hunting opportunities that will present themselves from time to time.

[sly delta]

anyone trying to play im new 14+

[golden holly]

will a .270 take down a moose?

[small forge]

My favorite way to hunt. I’ve gotten more rares and diamonds when I’m not looking for anything specific then when I did look 😭

[sly delta]

does anyone want to play im new

[small forge]

It will but probably slowly

But you’ll get a vital hit which will for sure kill it. Just try to get behind the shoulder blade

[tiny parcel]

If you catch a vital on a moose with a .270, pull up your map and wait for the hunting pressure to appear. If you chase quarry too soon, they might not bleed out if you don’t have a critical shot.

[golden holly]

Is there a special perk where I can see if I hit a vital right away?

[devout talon]

Wanna play

@heady elbow

[small forge]

Saves you the extra chasing if you spook it again too

[small forge]

Close. There’s a perk that when you spot something you can see it’s estimated health even after you shoot it for a little. And based off how quick its health drops you can tell if you hit vital or not

Skill I mean

[tiny parcel]

If you happen to know the spot you shot it at, the blood splatter will give you a good indicator.

[golden holly]

okay

usually I find big clumps of moose everywhere

and black bears

but since I don’t hunt them

I just spook them away

[devout talon]

Anyone on ps

[small forge]

You just don’t want to hunt them?

[golden holly]

I just recently started using the .270

I was using the starter one

I only had killed one moose

because it ran at me

and I used the shotgun

[small forge]

I understand. But your 270 should make great work at a black bear and good enough on a moose. So if there’s a shot you’re comfortable with take it as long as you want to

It’ll get you some good money to buy more guns and ammo

[devout talon]

K

[bronze aspen]

@golden holly

[small forge]

But you hunt anyway you wanna and I’ll respect anyway you do

[bronze aspen]

try to aim behind shoulder broadside of moose because i find it really hard to pen that far to get a heart front shot or pierce shoulder

unless you use a crossbow/bow

[small forge]

Anything with bow in the name is a cheat code I swear 😭 but they’re so fun

[golden holly]

140-200m black bear

is my 270 getting there without a crazy drop off?

[bronze aspen]

lmao it always does the trick

[bronze aspen]

not crazy

[patent apex]

Has anyone on Xbox not been able to join their friends multiplayer game?

[small forge]

I’d get closer, it can be hard to know where the bullet will go without the ranging perk

[tiny parcel]

As an alternative, you can take the .270 to the rifle range in Hirsch and make a dope sheet for bullet drop at various distances.

[bronze aspen]

too much work

[bronze aspen]

i can never aim right w em though

[devout talon]

Anyone wanna play on ps