valheim-chat

[prime moth]

but atgir can push the blob away before poison attk

[real ridge]

yea i saw mace was good vs skele so thats why and if its good vs blob too thats good

i also locked in and made a lot of good food and poison resist i underestimated the swamp a lot if u cant tell its my first time every playing haha

[winter jungle]

I always have a type of play style of being resourceful as much as I can which makes progressing into the game much faster but also playing the game fast could be not fun sometimes especially if you are playing with others

Like the only weapons I craft since I start a new world or play in a new world is a club Flint spear bronze axe (and maybe if I am feeling generous a bronze buckler ) then I got straight for iron xD

[prime moth]

best way to play esp when new is as prepared as possible

[real ridge]

yea im playing with 3 other friends we taking our time building out village and stuff we were so curious about swamp when we got swamp keys and got rolled there haha

[prime moth]

swamp is a big big difficulty spike

[real ridge]

hopefully next time with the new food and stuff we can get out stuff back

[prime moth]

dont lose hope you guys got this

[real ridge]

yea we wont underestimate a biome again now haha

[winter jungle]

Good luck hope y'all to have a fun time

[prime moth]

whatever the bird says listen and heed the info well

[real ridge]

tyty we wont give up

[prime moth]

bird really means what it says

[real ridge]

i also woke up from my bed a bit ago and saw like

a grimm reaper

is that cause i died so much or smt lol

[prime moth]

probably a wraith, its just a swamp enemy that mostly spawns in night swamp

[real ridge]

fair

[prime moth]

they occasionally show up in day swamp

[winter jungle]

I think they saw the other thing

[real ridge]

i woke up in the meadows at my spawn base wasnt in swamp forgot tosay

[winter jungle]

Yea don't worry about it

Just someone checking on you

[real ridge]

😭 fair

[prime moth]

o yeah thats just a g

no worries

[granite grail]

It's Odin checking up on your progress xD

[light moat]

Yep! Going for a traditional ranger/rogue style, so I’m trying to lean into the bow a good bit. Using the huntsman’s bow right now, my favorite bow!

[real ridge]

He must be very disappointed

Last question before I go bed is there a way to like dismantle old gear

We been keeping everything just in case just wondering if / when we get that free up some chest space

[prime moth]

nah

just keep it all in case your graves are too far anyway

some sets are useful even when you progress too

[stable anvil]

so what is yagluth? like if they werent bones would they look like a huge goblin?

[real ridge]

Good call yea will keep them

[prime moth]

make a hall of armor stands

and throw it all on those

[stable anvil]

armor hall seems cool. ive been thinking of it myself

[obsidian echo]

Real, once i was in the swamp biome i encountered a 2 star elite draugr and completely demolished me like i got ptsd from it i kept dying lmao

[winter jungle]

From all my time playing I never seen one of those 2 stars version

[stable anvil]

yeah the elites are already uncommon

[obsidian echo]

Haha i got extremely unlucky it was so purple, and i died close to the spawner so he was patrolling their whenever i came back and obviously the adds on top , i was stuck in a loop and he just one tapping me

[regal cave]

Are you going to two hand knife or do something else

[stable anvil]

should i try out skullsplittur?

[winter jungle]

Couldn't you just spam bunch of arrows at him at the step stone of the crypt

Or using a stag breaker

Always handy in these painful situations

[signal lava]

Valheim

[regal cave]

True

[sweet pagoda]

4 days in and I just beat eikthyr, this game rocks. Had another save where I beat the Elder but I ragequit on it because I died immediately after I reached the Swamp like a 15 minute sail from my starter base

[winter jungle]

Good luck mate , just a little advice if you need it , when going for the swamp for the first time try to land in a swamp that is near a meadow or black forest and try to make a portal there so you don't waste your time and progress

[sweet pagoda]

That's the plan, about to enter the bronze age in my new run, I consider the first one "practice"

[tacit crystal]

If you like battleaxes.

[sweet pagoda]

Also, the combat in this game is unlike any other survival game I've played, it's like you took Dark Souls and turned it into a survival game

[winter jungle]

I played valheim before dark souls and I am still do bad at dark souls xD

[sweet pagoda]

I'm the opposite, I'm a huge fromsoft nerd and I picked up Valheim somewhat recently, so my training in soulslike combat has made many parts of this game very easy

Not all though, I sucked at the Elder and I suck with bows

[winter jungle]

Bows always suck when they are at low skill level , the moment you master the praying or dodge rolling valheim become much easier

But I can't say the same for dark souls or maybe I just need to try dark souls more xD

Comparing 700 hours vs 6 hours in a game isn't fair after all

[sweet pagoda]

Parrying is also really fun, I also find it funny how you can parry with absolutely anything, even your bare fists, imagine being a skeleton or something and you pull up on a random dude, swing your sword at him, then he just palms your sword to the side and punches you in the face

[stable anvil]

well, some things you cant parry because they do too much damage at that point

some things you should never parry

[winter jungle]

The funniest sht is when you parry arrows or greydwarfs rocks xD

[sweet pagoda]

I was also wondering what is and isn't parryable, because I can even parry Eikthyr, could I parry trolls, or bears?

[stable anvil]

you can

[winter jungle]

Parrying depends mainly on your max HP though

[stable anvil]

starred enemies in the next biome you are just getting into generally i avoid even fighting

[sweet pagoda]

So then what's the limit of what's blockable/parryable? Say I have 100 hp and a troll hits me for 200 damage, would that be parryable or blockable?

[winter jungle]

You can almost parry everything except bosses , you would still get the effects of the parry of reducing the damage and getting some stamina back but you can't stun main bosses

[winter jungle]

With +100 HP and bear fists I managed to parry sometimes even stronger in the swamp so I would say yes

[stable anvil]

best case scenario that indicates to me i need to not be fighting something is if i parry but it also staggers me

[winter jungle]

Also it's important what are you using to parry

And to not miss time your parry

[sweet pagoda]

Well that's a given

[stable anvil]

i mean if you hear the noise you did it correctly. some things just stagger you

[winter jungle]

Also armour isn't as important as it looks tbh

[stable anvil]

it is pretty important

[winter jungle]

The way I see armour in valheim is just a way to reduce the damage and cover up your mistakes

[winter jungle]

Not really , not being hit at all is better than getting hit

If you didn't get hit then armour is not as important

I don't want to spoil anything for the other guy though

[stable anvil]

i mean, the claim comes from a place of never making a mistake so i dont think its good advice

stuffs gonna happen

maybe you get snuck up on, etc

[winter jungle]

Not really , it's pretty easy to readup the patterns of the mobs and just be aware of your surroundings

[stable anvil]

but you know, if you can play the game naked, good for you

[winter jungle]

Not naked per say but with other different things than normal flat armour

That gives better things

[sweet pagoda]

I find it really ironic how, despite this game being heavily based off of nordic/viking culture, your character sucks at swimming

[winter jungle]

Can't even pick up a fish with a Flint spear

[stable anvil]

anyone tried raising ground under a fish very quickly to see if they actually get pushed upwards

inefficient but im just curious

[winter jungle]

No but sometimes when it's very rainy/Stormy they end up in my house (when I make my house near the water xD)

[stable anvil]

free fishwrap

[winter jungle]

But I remember seeing someone digging a hole in there base until the reached water (because water was near it ) and made a little fish pool in it xD

It looked so silly

[stable anvil]

that would save stam

[sweet pagoda]

Do you guys build one huge central base or a bunch of smaller ones scattered about?

I usually do one huge central base on games with smaller maps like, for example, Subnautica, but this game's map is just so incredibly huge and the major locations are so far apart that I just end up making a bunch of smaller bases around major locations, thank god for portals

[winter jungle]

I always make one base and bring. Everything around the world ( that I can't teleport like . metals) into it , but unless I found a better base spot I do consider making another base ( like finding a land of mass which bunch of different biomes int ) sometimes making another base saves alot of time than transporting everything to your main base

[winter jungle]

I do end up making small camps anyways because I just make alot of portals and put them everywhere xD

[sweet pagoda]

I also like having some sort of shelter wherever I go, the world of Valheim is quite an unforgiving one

[crisp harness]

Wish I was less of a builder type-of player because I want to finish the game for once 🤣 and not get distracted by 200hrs of building and then get burnt out

[winter jungle]

I wish to be more of a builder

I always make half ahh house

[crisp harness]

also pisses my friends of because I get stuck on making a road or some 💩 that is not super important for hours

[sweet pagoda]

Same, I'm always in shock of the builds this community makes when all my houses look like glorified Minecraft wooden boxes

[winter jungle]

Just make a no map world and see your friends not complaining once about the roads ever again xD

[crisp harness]

I mean to be fair.. I love building and think myself as decent at it until I open a youtube video of someone making a 14/10 base, and then I cry myself to sleep

[regal cave]

Every time I build a not hideous box I look at my team mates buildings and want to never try building again

[north musk]

I try different way's. Here my results:

• Many small bases (in every biom): maaaany build fun. But Organisation can be messy. You have everything everywhere. And you want Connect them all in good way. You think alot about infrastructure. But in Endegame you are Happy have everything everywhere on map.

• a big Base: yeah, I'am a Builder. And this becomes laggy in Endegame, when you have everything there, Like planst and tamed animals. You can place your Portals around world. Longer shipping tours for iron. But you give more Love into your Base. You dont keep Just a small time there, so you fix every Thing. This Windows ist Not perfekt? You will fix ist. With Many bases, you havnt really time to fully complete it. In my opinion.

• no Base Up to Plains. Its very fun. You living Long Time on chests. But when you reach the Point, you have all the Stones etc. For build it fast.

• I gues the best - Central Base with outposts for animals and planst: IT reduce the lagging. You have build fun and feel in your Main Base really Home

[crisp harness]

That's a thing ? Actually sounds kinda immersive

[crisp harness]

I always am like "let's just make a temporary small house for gathering ore" and then I fall into super-focus and start making a whole a$$ tiny a$$ mini base 🤦‍♂️

[winter jungle]

Yea it's pretty cool way to play the game but also pretty hard

[regal cave]

No map is goated makes having a map a breeze

[winter jungle]

You can change it in the settings when you make the world

[crisp harness]

I mean I'm one of the very few people that actually hates portals in this game and turn them off, because it ruins my immersion and adventures if I just skip 40% of the game, so I'm familiar with "hard"

[winter jungle]

Honestly the only reason I like portals because they allow me to quickly empty my inventory I am the type Horder kinda of guy don't like to throw out any materials xD

[winter jungle]

Lmao

[crisp harness]

well can't help myself, the valheim building mode is just so intuitive and noob friendly compared to other games...

[sweet pagoda]

I like portals, I think they're expensive enough to balance it out, plus sailing is realllly boring

[crisp harness]

I love sailing 😄 It's so chill and so many things can happen like, sea serpents, trolls etc. etc. #adventure

But I do still prefer this portal system to something like Enshrouded, that games fast travel is so UN-restricted it's 50 times worse than Valheim, you can literally TP with no cooldown or costs or ANYTHING

[sweet pagoda]

Fast travel can be done right and it can be done quite wrong, I think Bethesda's later titles like FNV or Skyrim get pretty boring later on when you can just teleport everywhere with little penalty

[granite grail]

I have such a hard time building 😭 It's is not remotely intuitive for me. I have seen friends build these insane houses that I could only ever dream of. I can't grasp it. I can build nice longhouses and treehouses but the style totally avoids me

[winter jungle]

Valheim portals are already nerfed enough by ther annoying loud sound xD

[north musk]

I would Like a summon flying mount more as Portals

A big hugin for example

[stable anvil]

multiplayer can be kinda tough because youre having fun and talking and trying to progress but then its like oh theres no food, we need to half ass some chores to barely get enough

[sweet pagoda]

Valheim is pretty good with fast travel because you have to gather some fairly uncommon resources to unlock fast travel and even then it's not nearly as unrestricted as other rpgs

[stable anvil]

people have stuff they gotta do so the hangout session to play is on the clock and spending the whole session with the chores can be unfun

[winter jungle]

My friend was playing in a different friend group and he had a little bit of experience because of playing with me and some other friends he always complained to me that no one wants to do the farming or gathering berries xD

[winter jungle]

That's why they added the F

If you know what I mean

[stable anvil]

when im playing solo i go into a flow state and just learn to enjoy getting more than i could ever use so i have food and mead for an army but nobody there but me

[regal cave]

Yes.

[crisp harness]

I mean the thing that this game does well which other games don't ... especially when making oddly shaped builds is. If you just build a frame with beams you can put floors from the inside of the frame. That way you can do it easier. IDK to me it's nice, also the clipping of build pieces helps.

[stable anvil]

i bet gordon ramsay wishes he could make +1 meal appear when preparing or cooking it

[winter jungle]

I wonder what his cooking skills would be at

[regal cave]

0

[stable anvil]

75

no one has 100

eh, no one probably has 75 either tbh

[winter jungle]

How many meals and food do u need to make to get level 100 xD

[regal cave]

There are no chili's in valheim Bobby flay would have no idea how to cook anything

[winter jungle]

Imagine the amount of resources needed omg

[stable anvil]

i really dont know but i think i saw someone say someone could have been cooking since early access launch and not have it

[winter jungle]

I think my best one was at 33

[winter jungle]

Yes there was a glitch where it would let you cook without actually cooking but it's removed now

But it's also kinda works but if you lagged in a server

[stable anvil]

all i know i really want at 100 are running and bows

[winter jungle]

Try to pick up a berry many times when you lag you can level up farming insanely fast

[stable anvil]

i plant a lot of barley

[winter jungle]

Jumping is my goal

[stable anvil]

the marmalade from the ashlands sounds wonderful. like a tart berry dessert? i'm in for that

wish i had it irl right now

[winter jungle]

I wish I could eat eyescream

[stable anvil]

its like a...cold cupcake i think

[winter jungle]

With squeezed eyes 🫡

[stable anvil]

the swamp food on the other hand kind of scares me. i dont think i want undead human entrail for sausages or slime shake. that slime was going all over the dirt and stuff man

[winter jungle]

Let's not talk about etir food

[stable anvil]

or seeker meat

[winter jungle]

Literally poison xD with bug meat

[stable anvil]

i would try misthare supreme

[winter jungle]

And bug juices

What would the buff taste like u think

[stable anvil]

honey glazed chicken is just an easy choice. i'd eat that one any day

[winter jungle]

What about meat platter

And serpent stew

[stable anvil]

i imagine lox is like beef but the platter has the bug meat on it so nah

serpent stew....if its anything similar to maybe an alligator then it would taste no different to chicken so i would give it one taste

[winter jungle]

Seeker aspic my beloved 😍

Would royal jelly consider as a type of honey

[stable anvil]

i have no idea what to compare irl to royal jelly. is it like...seeker honey?

yeah maybe

seekers seem ant-based so im not sure

[winter jungle]

I mean it's kinda similar to what the bee quees make for the next queen bee to eat so it can become queen ?

Or something like this

[stable anvil]

i hate to say onion soup sounds awful but it sounds like just water spices and onion so

easy stamina food though

[winter jungle]

Not even spices

Kinda insane there is no salt in this game

[stable anvil]

onion water 😅

[winter jungle]

Boiled onion water

[stable anvil]

i guess technically the powders for feasts are spices

[winter jungle]

How's better than deer meat 😭

[stable anvil]

ive had deer before. depending on how someone prepares it, its terrible or good

poorly done and theres a weird leftover game or wild taste

[winter jungle]

the real question which meads would be good to drink

[stable anvil]

lingering stamina is good but probably not it. mushroom and berries ehhhh

[winter jungle]

What about ratarosk

Or the one you make with troll fish

[stable anvil]

fishy

i bet minor healing mead is good. just berries and honey

[last otter]

What does the healing mead actually do? I’ve always just used food, lol. I never bothered.

[winter jungle]

Heals you

[last otter]

Really!?

[winter jungle]

Gives a certain amount of hp really fast

[last otter]

It’s the same as food?

[winter jungle]

Opposed to normal health Regen which is much slower

[last otter]

Ohhh.

[winter jungle]

No it's not a food

[last otter]

I see, thank you.

[winter jungle]

When you use a mead you can't drink the same one again after 2 minutes

So you can't spam it

[last otter]

Does it regen after the initial burst?

[stable anvil]

the poison resistance potion sounds disgusting since theres coal in it

[winter jungle]

Basically heals you a straight and flat amount of hp

[last otter]

Okay.

Thank you!

[stable anvil]

yeah, its like an emergency button but it has a slight delay so i would use it in an almost emergency as well

[winter jungle]

Wait until the feathers and rabbit hide one 💀

[winter jungle]

Basically when you are around 50%

You when yo know you get hit and can't block nor dodge

[last otter]

How much does the biggest mead heal for? Lol.

[winter jungle]

I don't remember but alot

[stable anvil]

yeah, major i think is 150. there is lingering but thats later

[last otter]

Wow.

[stable anvil]

major is like 6 biomes in tho

[winter jungle]

The best one heals 125 HP over 10 seconds

[stable anvil]

ah

[winter jungle]

The major one

[stable anvil]

right

[last otter]

Oh, okay; yeah, I never used them.

I thought it was a waste because I had good food.

[stable anvil]

meads are all very helpful

[winter jungle]

Medium healing heals 75 HP over 10 s

[winter jungle]

I always skip poison tbh xD I only make it once for BM

[stable anvil]

lingering stamina might just be my favorite mead

ive put so much sap into it lol might have made 100 so i can use them even for unimportant things

[nocturne wolf]

lingering gives you a percentage increase to health regen instead of a set amount per tick so it’s less effective without lots of health food, even with the best health food it gives you less total health over a longer duration

[stable anvil]

makes sense

[nocturne wolf]

makes sense that the longer lasting potion gives less health overall? there’s no reason to use it

major healing gives you more health over time and doesn’t scale with food

[stable anvil]

can save some resources not making it later i guess but that does seem an issue

[near furnace]

@vale relic english only please

@placid pilot that's also for you. ^

[rain flare]

#Steve rogers “Speak English” meme from the avengers movie 😂

[hollow chasm]

Deep north when?

[pliant hatch]

When is ready.

[rain flare]

May I refer you to our public statement on the matter…

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[near furnace]

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[near furnace]

Embed rights my friend 🥲

[safe flower]

I thought it would have been early this year. But damn, oh well, hopefully not too long

[rain flare]

We know not when it will be ready, but when it is, it will be awesome! 🤩

[safe flower]

I know, can’t wait lol

[stable anvil]

i havent tried going to the north but its tradition for me to go to a small patch of land pre-updated. is it all mountains biome up there right now or is it just like snow and ice and thats all?

ill probably sail there

[tacit crystal]

Deep North is there at the opposite position of Ashlands. It's currently empty, but there can be found mountain biomes inside the area.
This I assume might change in the update, clearing all other biomes inside the area and it being just Deep North biome.

[dim python]

will the starred boar i just trapped in a house despawn on her own?

[tacit crystal]

No it doesn't.

Exceptions are mobs that spawned randomly during night time, they despawn at dawn.

[foggy glacier]

If you can start the taming process (feed her and see yellow hearts) she definitely won’t despawn

[dim python]

(using she/her pronouns because all boars can give birth)

[amber tusk]

yo guys i just excavated 4 silver veins and spend like 2 hours both mining and transporting it to my base having in the end 4 tons of just silver and now while crafting it, i made armor first and upgraded to tier 3 then went to weapons and noticed that i ran out of silver? The sword alone costs 40 bars? Can you even physically lift the required materials without being overburdened? Do i have to do all that again? Is it gonna get worse from that point onward in terms of grind?

This shit was demoralising as fuck

[tacit crystal]

Silver sword is notoriosly expensive to craft, but it has the highest amount of additional spirit damage of all weapons ingame, which can be useful in future biomes.

[amber tusk]

do you get much from upgrading it?

[dull warren]

I do find some things like that to be essentially timegated

[stable anvil]

isnt one of the upgrades like 60 bars or something

[near furnace]

160 in total I think it was 🤔

[tacit crystal]

Higher slash and spirit damage.

[stable anvil]

i would just use mistwalker

[tacit crystal]

160 silver and 23 iron.

[near furnace]

same

Frostner for mountains biome and mistwalker for next biome

[stable anvil]

for a while i made the wrong assumption without checking that mistwalker is spirit and frost but its just frost and i was being silly

[tacit crystal]

My choices for mountain weapons have been Crystal battleaxe, Fang spear and/or silver knife in latest playthroughs. 👀

[stable anvil]

dont think ive ever tried the crystal battleaxe for myself

[tacit crystal]

It has second highest spirit damage of all ingame weapons.

[near furnace]

mistwalker also clears a little bit of mist by itself

so you can save yourself a inventory slot by using that only

[paper marsh]

As others said, silver sword / ||frostner|| are very expensive, especially if upgraded. Though you don't have to upgrade all your gear fully, it's relatively small stat increases the gear gets

There's also often more budget options available too. Like the fang spear costs barely any silver to make / upgrade, and I think similar for ||Flesh Rippers|| (requires going in mountain caves)

[amber tusk]

maybe should've went for fenrir? is it good? Expensive? I only got like 20 wool from two caves

[paper marsh]

Different kind of expensive I suppose, requires exploring caves instead of digging silver. Think it takes 20 to make one armor piece, though 20 hair from 2 caves sounds a bit on the unlucky side

It is very good, just depends on if you like speed instead of armor. A lot of people like to mix and match, like for example a heavy silver helmet, but then fenris chest piece and legs

In caves make sure to also destroy the things that hair sometimes hangs from. That gives extra hair

[tacit crystal]

Hair, leather scraps and wolf hide are main materials for crafting the armor pieces, head piece requires trophy too.

[plush carbon]

Just wanted to share this in case you didn’t know:|| spear skill levels up extremely fast — I got it to level 75 in about 30 minutes.||

[paper marsh]

Super fast attack speed, plus for some reason (I think it's a bug of alt attack and primary attack xp being swapped) it gets 2.25xp per hit, compared to 1.5xp on other melee weapons

Only weapon I've ever had at lvl 100 before mistlands

Spears are goated, but they don't get a lot of love in my experience

[plush carbon]

I didn't know about the secondary attack; it's slow for my taste. I hope there's a spear with magic that returns on its own like Thor's hammer in the future. It's a very good weapon; it's fast, and with the armor and the amulet, you get 20% more piercing damage. I still have a bit of the last biome left, but I'd like to see more weapons with special effects like ice, fire, poison, or spirit. Swords steal the show.

Plus, with the last round shield you go around like a Spartan with a spear and shield, it's really cool

[paper marsh]

Secondary attack is some nice ranged flavor to keep you flexible, insetad of swapping weapons to do ranged. It's also a nice engage because you can throw the spear to stagger an enemy, then run up and your character auto-equips the spear from the ground so you can hack away at them

[jolly pagoda]

When you throw a spear at a drake because you ran out arrows and it misses and flies off the mountain 🤣

[versed temple]

I like the spear too. It's nice to have a ranged + melee option. Saves a fair bit of inventory space not having to keep bow and arrows early on.

Yeah, its not ideal when you miss the mark and suffer the immediate consequences. Nothing like running around (or swimming) trying to find your spear as things are circling.

[paper marsh]

Once you've gone without a bow for a couple years, you get used to aiming well with the spear 😉

[jolly pagoda]

I can attest to this

Spear #1

[versed temple]

Bow is hella good too if you got the patience to level it.

I do not.

[paper marsh]

Bow is the most broken weapon in the game imo, which is why I can't stand to use it

[jolly pagoda]

I just use the bow as a side weapon/hunting. I melee fight all bosses

[versed temple]

I just don't really like to use the bow. I don't like waiting for it to draw down and I don't like to level it. It's too easy to die doing stupid crap on hardcore.

[winged lodge]

yo

[hallow geode]

This is the way. I feel like bows are the easy way out. I prefer to just dodge and block minibosses and bosses

[tacit crystal]

Usually good idea having backup spear in case you miss the throw.

[versed temple]

Na. If I were going to waste the extra slot full time, I'd just carry a bow.

[quasi night]

"There's no easy way in Valheim !" *he said, while desperately clutching his Staff of the Wild *

[hallow geode]

”Ashlands is incredibly hard, no matter the way you play” brings out the trollstav

[regal cave]

Someone told me spears being used and good was a meme and people dont really play through with it was that a lie because I want to be a man too

[dim python]

what about atgeir?

[prime moth]

atgir is nutty pre ashlands

[tacit crystal]

I fared well with bare Splitnir plus buckler and Berserkir axes combo in my recent playthrough.
-# With bare I mean no gem enchanted weapons.

[tacit crystal]

Himminafl is neat in Ashlands too.

[strange cradle]

Only for living beings. It's virtually useless against the hordes of charred.

I found Mistwalker to be WAY more effective. And I had much higher skill on polearms when I first entered Ashlands. My sword skill was miniscule.

Now I am a believer: Sword and board all the way.

[ionic pagoda]

Hello

[strange cradle]

Hey.

[tacit crystal]

I disagree, it is good against charred too since it deals partial lightning which also adds stagger.

[strange cradle]

I can only go from my experience, and I found Mistwalker plus a good shield to be the way for a MUCH higher survivability.

Because, you know, even dead vikings want to survive. 😉

But then... old story... I'm not a dodge-roller. (Or using parry that much)

Mistwalker cuts through undead like a knife through butter. Himminafl: "Yeah, let me shock you little bit. That did hurt, did it?"

[paper marsh]

Not as bad as bow, but still pretty nutty. I've gone a couple years without that one too

Only recently started going without ||staff of protection, but I've been only lightly using magic anyways for quite a while ||

[tacit crystal]

I know. I've survived many playthroughs deathless in Ashlands so I know what I speak about.

[strange cradle]

Well, you're obviously the perfect dodge-roller and parry-er (that's not a word), so you don't even need armor, and weapons become secondary. 😉

[sweet pagoda]

I like the atgeir, it's a pretty simple but fun weapon

[strange cradle]

Atgeir is fun.

When applied to enemies it's actually useful against.

Charred? Not so much.

[sweet pagoda]

I haven't yet gone beyond the swamp, but my favorite weapon currently is the stagbreaker

[strange cradle]

Well, there's a lot more to come in that direction. 😉

If you like big "me smash" things.

[quasi night]

Bonk is good, bonk is life

[tacit crystal]

Ask set best set. 🫶

[strange cradle]

I rock Ask set as well.

But I don't do the dodge-roll-parry dance.

[sweet pagoda]

The parrying and dodge rolling is the most fun part of combat in this game, it turns it from a normal survival game into a survival game and souls game hybrid

[strange cradle]

What can I say? I'm old. So reflexes are gone. And I HATE dodge rolling, because it's the most detached from reality combat mechanism ever.

If you dodge-roll into your enemy in real life: guess what happens.

[dim python]

it's called judo

[strange cradle]

Nope. It's called being dead.

[merry pebble]

True that 😄 i personally am aware of exactly one case where it has been pulled off in "real" fight 😄

[dim python]

ok grump

[strange cradle]

It's a direct invitation to skewer you.

[sweet pagoda]

That's the magic of video games, though, they're not realistic

[strange cradle]

They're not. True.

[dim python]

they're not true. 😔

[strange cradle]

😄

[sweet pagoda]

Do you expect the game with trolls, dragons, and giant living trees to be realistic?

[merry pebble]

True, they're not 😄

[strange cradle]

To... some degree. But I mostly hate it because I can't pull it off. 😉

It's actually both.

[dim python]

there are giant living trees tho

[strange cradle]

I hate it because it's unrealistic, and I hate it because I can't pull it off.

WhatcanIsay? 😉

[tacit crystal]

Not true, they're.

[quasi night]

It's irrelevant, the point is the body of our character behave roughly as a human body should behave

[sweet pagoda]

I guess you're right, but do you see trees walking around and shooting vines at you?

[merry pebble]

They're? Not true!

[dim python]

best thread ever

[quasi night]

this set expectations for the player, the fact it's a fantasy world has no sway in this topic

(sorry, this counter-argument is a pet peeves of mine ^^)

[merry pebble]

Who would have thought 3(or 4) words would be able to make so many lines

[strange cradle]

Orthography is fun. 😉

[sweet pagoda]

The fantasy setting lets unrealistic things apply to the human body like dodging any attack by simply ducking and rolling

[strange cradle]

I have to concede that point somewhat.

I still don't like it, though. 😉

[dim python]

idk i'm a fan of rigorously hashed out worlds like those of jrr tolkien

[strange cradle]

Tolkien never went into the details of how close quarter combat really worked, though.

[dim python]

man had character

[strange cradle]

Big Tokien fan myself.

[sweet pagoda]

Me too, but I also like to suspend my disbelief sometimes and just watch or play something for the purpose of enjoying it, and not dissecting every little bit of lore

[dim python]

remember all those stabbings? those trades between nazgul and women in men's armor?

[strange cradle]

There were very view of them, and most of them were plot elements.

[dim python]

ok right 🙂‍↕️

[strange cradle]

The standard day-to-day exchange between grunts was never explained in detail.

[merry pebble]

-# Certain little knife in hands of a certain little guy kinda carried that one tho 😄

[strange cradle]

😄

Tru.

[dim python]

i love my valheim knives i think they're one of the best weapons

[strange cradle]

That wasn't really his shtick anyway. Tolkien was the man for the great overarching story, and he was a master at that. Enough off-topic from me.

[dim python]

ah crap this isnt #gen

sorry everyone

[strange cradle]

Yup.

np, I'm mostly guilty here.

[dim python]

i couldve sidestepped an offtopic conversation a lot earlier myself if i was more context aware

[strange cradle]

Back to Valheim, somehow. 😉

Nah, and back to topic. I just suck at dodge-rolling, so I begrudge anyone who can successfully pull it off. 😄

[dim python]

before i learned atgeir stunlock my strat was half successfully dodging and stabbing their ankles

[strange cradle]

Atgeir rules really mostly up until the Ashlands.

But in Ashlands, nope.

[feral grove]

As far its believability is concerned, I'll accept dodge rolls in the name of also accepting that I can survive, without any lasting injury, literally any of the things in the game that can damage you.

[dim python]

the lightning poke stick sounds fun

[thorny saffron]

i only crafted the brone one lmao

[sweet pagoda]

I've never even thought of using knives, I always use medium-large weapons

[prime moth]

do you guys think corewood is what metal bands use to make their logos?

[thorny saffron]

im gonna try using fists on my next seed

[dim python]

i crafted the iron one but i regret it because it's underwhelming

[strange cradle]

Knifes are really good in Valheim.

[thorny saffron]

i found atgeirs to be useless idk

[strange cradle]

But I use them mainly for enemies at least one biome lower.

[dim python]

bronze atgeir was my coolest yet

[strange cradle]

Atgeirs have that one ability that stands out to make it one of the most useful weapons in game.

[thorny saffron]

yeah bronze was the most useful

[dim python]

like stagbreaker but actually good

[quasi night]

you need to abuse the secondary to enjoy atgeir, otherwise it is underwhelming

[strange cradle]

Try Himminafl. It's REALLY good.

[thorny saffron]

bm atgeirs is probably the best but never used it

[strange cradle]

That's the point of the atgeir.

You NEED to use the secondary.

[quasi night]

Himminhalf has a bonus in coolness, because of the sound 😄

[strange cradle]

Stun everything around you, then poke'em to death.

[dim python]

their poke can keep wraiths at a distance

but i've found battle axe poke does that too and stunlocks them while you're at it tho

[strange cradle]

Atgeir is much faster.

I don't like slow weapons.

I'm already slow as it is. 😄

[dim python]

the battle axe poke is actually really fast and seems lower damage

[thorny saffron]

i forgot valheim has battle axes lmao

[strange cradle]

I've only tried battle axe once, and that was without the poke, so I can't really speak of that.

[dim python]

first battle axe smokes black forest

[thorny saffron]

my usual weapons are bronze mace - iron mace - frostnir - staff of embers lmao

and the respective bows except huntsman bow

[strange cradle]

Axe for first two bosses, sword for all the rest.

[dim python]

excited to try the ease and power of iron sledge personally

[quasi night]

the huntsman makes less noise than every other bow, it's the best for sniping

[thorny saffron]

exactly

[strange cradle]

Is that really true?

[thorny saffron]

its used for sniping and stealth

[strange cradle]

Isn't that just an urban myth?

[thorny saffron]

instant turndown

[thorny saffron]

no it works

[strange cradle]

Because I don't feel there's a difference.

[thorny saffron]

there is actually a difference

[quasi night]

that's what the wiki say, now I didn't looked into the code

[strange cradle]

I tried most bows, and I really didn't see the advantage of the huntsman.

[thorny saffron]

its just an upgrade

take it imo just like draugrs fang

[quasi night]

it's also the first pinpoint precise bow, and require less stamina than everything that come after

which is why I don't build the draugr fang anymore

[tacit crystal]

Yes, but has higher knockback and stagger.

[thorny saffron]

draugrs fang looks cool as shit

[dim python]

i see.

[merry pebble]

Yep it is 🙂 it can be useful if you want to stealthily pick individual enemies (like fulings in villages for example)

[thorny saffron]

instant turnup

[tacit crystal]

Primary swings also have higher stagger and no multitarget penalty.

[quasi night]

I don't disagree ^^

[strange cradle]

Which I do with both Huntsman and Draugr Fang. And I don't feel there's much of a difference.

Fulings either realize I'm there, or not.

[thorny saffron]

sneak level too low?

[strange cradle]

Probably.

[merry pebble]

You will alert bit less enemies with the huntsman, but if you are not really paying attention to it you can easily not notice 😄

[thorny saffron]

idk but i saw a video proving it

[merry pebble]

Doesnt matter for arrows alerting enemies

[strange cradle]

My sneak level is as low as it gets.

Because I don't use it that often.

[thorny saffron]

same

used my sneak once upon a time for taming loxes

[strange cradle]

I use it mostly for Trolls and Fuling villages.

[paper marsh]

Sneak is pretty nice with certain weapons, especially on increased difficulty

[sweet pagoda]

I use stealth for deer hunting when I don't have arrows, it's actually pretty good

[paper marsh]

Can absolutely roll some enemies with fist weapons or a knife

[strange cradle]

Backstab is brutal.

I killed a one star troll with a lvl 1 chitin knife with a backstab. Well, got it halfway down, then in stunlock. It was slash, slash, poke and he was dead.

That WAS nice.

[jagged wind]

huntsman is really nice against Yagluth if you are using frost arrows... yag is very resistant against pierce so u care only about stamina use

[strange cradle]

Sword and board.

I will never use a bow against Yagluth.

[jagged wind]

i used it on very hard difficulty

the fire dmg is too much when fighting at melee

[strange cradle]

Well, can't use a shield anything above normal.

So, I can't play anything above normal. 😄

Because I'd be dead within a second.

[jagged wind]

shields somehow work at hard difficulty with high skill... but on very hard they r useless basically

[strange cradle]

Yup.

Not for me. I'm old, and my reflexes are basically shot.

[jagged wind]

on very hard i just go fast firing bow and light armor.. as heavy armor just slows u down and doesnt do much anyway

and atgeir as a backup

[strange cradle]

Exactly.

[thorny saffron]

heavy armor is useless imo

[strange cradle]

It is very useful in normal difficulty.

Anything higher? You need to dodge-roll everything.

So light armor it is.

[sweet pagoda]

I just like being an unmovable tank, in most games I tend to go with the heaviest armor and weapons available to me

[strange cradle]

Same here.

[sweet pagoda]

Though now I'm leaning more towards sword and shield

[maiden sable]

well on normal diff u can def parry almost any atk so technically heavy armor is even more useless

[strange cradle]

If you've got the reflexes for it.

Which I don't.

[maiden sable]

predict the atk by noise

[strange cradle]

Reflexes, baby.

I'm OLD.

[sweet pagoda]

Well, you could say armor in general is useless if you're good enough at dodging and parrying. I'm not, so I like armor as a backup

[jagged wind]

heavy armor is still nice if u fail the parry or getting hit generally

[strange cradle]

Exactly.

[maiden sable]

thats what im pointing at if u predict u need less reflexes to pull it off 😭 . im also old...kinda well...at least past my prime

[maiden sable]

fair

[strange cradle]

You still need to predict the EXACT moment when the attack will happen. If you fail that, you're viking minced meat.

[jagged wind]

i mean its not as hard as elden ring parry xd

[strange cradle]

I've never played it, but now I'm happy that I haven't. 😄

[maiden sable]

its just a matter of rythm tbh. doesnt take too long to learn the patterns or even snatch arrows mid air ngl

[jagged wind]

but i still fail the timing from time to time

[maiden sable]

exactly cuz theres no windup and a generous window unlike true souls games

[jagged wind]

also charred skeletons like to troll a bit

[strange cradle]

I wouldn't call it exactly "generous" window. 😄

[maiden sable]

250ms or sth along those lines is damn generous

[strange cradle]

Not for me.

For a 30 year old? Probably very generous.

For me? Nope.

Maybe even 40 year old.

[maiden sable]

man u must be ancient. ppl on other servers call me dinosaur so u are uhhh idk... earths crust ? tell me pls how old is too old

[jagged wind]

also battle axes are sadly useless on very hard too 🙁

[strange cradle]

Well, according to Smiffe, I'm not by far the oldest person playing Valheim.

[jagged wind]

u wont stagger anyone.. and everything almost one shots u

[maiden sable]

damn

[strange cradle]

But I'm probably among the older players.

I'll turn 65 in summer.

[paper marsh]

The jab is pretty useful

Battle axe secondary or fist weapon secondary is my go to for staggering on vhard, since a lot of the bigger enemies can't be parried

[maiden sable]

i think everytime someone calls me unc or gramps i should relay them to u

[strange cradle]

😄

[maiden sable]

🤣

[strange cradle]

There's a women here that is 75.

[jagged wind]

sadly that jab wont do anything to fullings on very hard 😅

[strange cradle]

I've subscribed to her Youtube channel.

[maiden sable]

🔥

[jagged wind]

when playing in 2 players

[maiden sable]

got her priorities straight haha

[strange cradle]

Yup.

Ok, time for my afternoon nap. Nice talking to Gjall! 👋

[maiden sable]

dont forget a piece of cake gramps.....damn i missed saying this to other ppl 🤣 . no offense im just happy to see theres older ppl than me ...ha refreshing

[paper marsh]

oh yeah multiplayer will make it rough. I imagine two jabs should still stagger though if you have some axe skill / axe is a bit upgraded

Just gotta utilize the fact that you're two people, and strike together <3

[light gyro]

valheim

[queen wadi]

miehlav

[prime moth]

damn silver really does take ages to haul around

[rocky terrace]

Crazy how windrose is copying valheim and they're getting a lot of attention

[lone rampart]

I don’t think copying is the right word. Inspired by, sure, but as much as any other survival game

[frozen jewel]

windrose is mainly Deep rock galactic

[strange cradle]

Windrose looks a LOT like Conan: Exiles to me. Like... a LOT.

[simple nest]

Hello guys. Sorry for disturbing you, but where i can find the chat, dedicated to looking for teammates?

Sorry for my bad English

[queen wadi]

#1024264966712340510

[cursive nexus]

Who’s valing they heim rn

[simple nest]

Oh thanks

[granite grail]

Curse the frikking ashlands and everything that it is

[queen wadi]

Aren't they already cursed

[dim python]

curse the curse

[queen wadi]

Curse the curse that cursed the curse

[dim python]

curse circle?

[queen wadi]

The curse that cursed itself

[tacit crystal]

Curseption.

[dim python]

solipsism moment

[prime moth]

dang i got hunted

did not expect that lol

i tried hiding in a mountain tower and killing the dogs as they ran through the door

even with bonemass they just did too much damage

[fresh verge]

Hello guys, could you help me figure out how I can find people for playing together? I'm a completely new player.

[tacit crystal]

Check posts in https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1024264966712340510 or make your own. 👍

[fresh verge]

Oh, thank you, mate. I opened it a few minutes ago; it was completely empty, but now I can see servers. Thank you very much.

[past zenith]

Moder down! He was a tough one

[paper marsh]

She's gotta a lotta damage for sure

[lone rampart]

She, but yes

[near furnace]

*she 😉

Moder means Mother

[lone rampart]

You literally murder her children to bring her out of hiding

[near furnace]

but worst is Fader, meaning "Father or Dad"

sooo many english speaking people thinks it's "fade R. like some kind of fadeing dragon"

[dim python]

wrong chat sorry

posted off topic, only the mods can see what i deleted

[past zenith]

sementics 😛

[granite grail]

How do you pronounce it then? 😭 I say it like Vader

[tacit crystal]

Like you say "father".

[lone rampart]

I say it like father but with the labiodental plosive “d” instead of the fricative

[dim python]

vah der

[granite grail]

Like fodder? 😭 😭 🤣 🤣

[lone rampart]

Yup

[granite grail]

Well I don't like that at all no offense to the Swedes 🤣

[dim python]

if you say it in your head like you're german/swedish it's a lot cooler

[lone rampart]

Or change the second syllable to sound closer to “dare” than “durr”

[near furnace]

Fa der

der as the german says "der" die, das 🤔

oh

say

Fa Deer

deer = the creature

and Fa from the word Fart

[granite grail]

My last name and ancestry is German idk why this is so strange to me xD

I can get beind Fah-dare

[silk token]

that simpsons episode.
chow-dare??? chow-DARRRRE???

[dim python]

nevermind

chat i'm taking my bronze pickaxe with me to the swamp instead of my iron because it has significantly more durability at t4

[light moat]

Take both 👀

[dim python]

i need space for the root/guck/trophies

[blazing plaza]

Valcon is happening guys

[dim python]

TURNIP SEEDS

that's it that's all the exploring i'm gonna do

[paper verge]

Is there a time for when the Deep north drop? is it any day now?

[jolly pagoda]

patience

let it cook

[dark coyote]

literally any day now

[tacit crystal]

No timeline announced yet.

[hazy cypress]

Just to confirm, you can't kill fish with a bow?

[tacit crystal]

Nope. They are not technically living like mobs like those you fight.

[hazy cypress]

That...kinda saddens me. Only "kinda" though (I'm still looking for Iron to make the prep table)

[fossil delta]

You can only catch them when they are out of the water. So you can make traps. Like when I see a sizable school of fish I will use upside down roofing pieces to catch them. Things like that are most effective during storms.

[hazy cypress]

As far as I'm aware, there's also the fishing rod and bait...

[fossil delta]

Doesn't beat passive methods that can catch 4+ fish at a time. All you do is pick them up.

[hazy cypress]

Ok, sure, that'll work as a cheese method if I need it.

[fossil delta]

Cheese method? People do that in real life all the time.

[dark coyote]

I've never gotten that to work actually

[hazy cypress]

I understand. I only call it a "Cheese Method" because I don't believe the mechanics of the game were intended to be used that way. No hate here.

[fossil delta]

I find it works best with a storm. Set them up just above the water line, than the storm surges will put them into the "trap" areas.

[fossil delta]

Well, it works. So I do it. Ensures I have plenty of fish wraps once I can make them.

[hazy cypress]

I haven't even gotten Iron yet, so I'm here with Mince Sauce, Deer Stew, and Carrot Soup.

[fossil delta]

Yeah, its a shame you can't even make fish pieces until you have the prep table. They used to be a nice HP boost when we could make them earlier.

[hazy cypress]

Honestly, it doesn't bug me that much. I have a single Perch in my uncooked box that I'd like to deal with. Found it on the shore.

[nocturne wolf]

its stats are only 2 stamina more than bear meat

[hazy cypress]

Speaking of Bear meat, Have we gotten recipes for it yet?

[nocturne wolf]

no, but I think it would be better replacing neck tails in minced meat sauce than getting a new recipe, black forest has a lot of health food already

[fossil delta]

Yep. You can find spots where the fish will get caught on shore after storms, no trap needed. You just have to be in those areas during the storm. Like in my last game my base was set up where I would get 2 to 3 perch after every storm around one rock, an 1 or 2 pike around a big rock at the other end of my base. At my secondary base I had an area where troll fish would regularly get caught.

[tacit crystal]

Put it on item stand in the mean time. You get some company for dialogue.

[hazy cypress]

Or making it an alternate recipe.

[nocturne wolf]

no neck tails!!

[tacit crystal]

It could be honestly ||plains tier food|| IMO. Even stamina food, since there are some stamina foods requiring meats too (like turnip stew).

[hazy cypress]

Next question, once I get iron, and can then build with stone, can I upgrade my current building or do I have to tear it all down and start from scratch?

[nocturne wolf]

the only biome needing new health food is mountains but bear meat isn't available there so I don't think it would work well

[tacit crystal]

You can upgrade old base.

[dim python]

you can build with stone outside your current building imo

[nocturne wolf]

you'll have to remove wood walls to replace them with the larger stone pieces but there's no need to if you like how your house is now

[tacit crystal]

Yeah, and plains has only 1 stamina food available.

[hazy cypress]

Could you clarify your statement?

[nocturne wolf]

bread and blood pudding

[hazy cypress]

Oh...I see

[dim python]

keep your current buildings and build around them a stone fortress

[tacit crystal]

Oops. Might need sleep soon.

[nocturne wolf]

[hazy cypress]

I built a little tight so building around my current building (aside from maybe stone "fences") would be equivalent to breaking everything down and starting anew.

[dim python]

now that i have turnips... i won't need deer stew or mince meat sauce because i'll have sausage and wolf jerky 💗

it was a good time to run out

[hazy cypress]

I did a mild oppsie. I took some of my food that doesn't work in better food with me and went exploring.

[sweet pagoda]

Wolf jerky is a thing in this game??

[jolly pagoda]

mhm

[fossil delta]

I can usually get away with just tearing down my walls and replacing them with stone.

[sweet pagoda]

Damn

[nocturne wolf]

it's less useful now because it's weaker than relevant feasts

[jolly pagoda]

it's fine if you're exploring

[hazy cypress]

Guessing you mean Piece by piece?

[sweet pagoda]

I want to make a very specific joke right now but idk how strict the mods are here

[dim python]

don't do it 🙂

[sweet pagoda]

Probably for the best lol

[fossil delta]

More or less. I build 2 story's high, so remove 8m by 8m, replace, then do the next section.

I am usually able to leave my flooring as is.

Which means I usually don't need to move anything else.

[sweet pagoda]

Should I get troll armor for the elder or go straight to bronze?

[fossil delta]

Troll works. I like the bear set best.

Your shield is most important.

[sweet pagoda]

I don't really know a good method for dealing with bears, those things scare me

[fossil delta]

They are afraid of fire.

[sweet pagoda]

How many bears would I need to kill for a full set?

[fossil delta]

The hardest thing to get is the trophy.

[sweet pagoda]

The trophy?? Isn't that super rare?

[fossil delta]

You need it for the head piece. Some times I get it pretty quickly.

[hazy cypress]

I used troll armor, finewood bow, and fire arrow, plus the buff from the first boss.

[sweet pagoda]

I was thinking of fighting him melee, I'll probably do troll armor with a buckler and sword

[hazy cypress]

Bears seem to be weak to slashing, so I tend to go with axes (I found the components for "Early Axes" and they deal with 0 star bears quite handily.)

[fossil delta]

Bronze Buckler works well. Not all that expensive to make lvl 3 either.

[fossil delta]

I think they are normal, not weak, but yeah, that seems to be the most effective type to use against them.

[sweet pagoda]

I have one of the heads for the axes, but I've explored 90% of my starter island and can't find the second head

How good is pierce against bears?

[hazy cypress]

I found mine within 20 minutes of each other. I didn't realize they were kinda rare.

[fossil delta]

You often have to search a few biomes to find them. Luck is the biggest factor.

[hazy cypress]

Bears are resistant to pierce. They are weak to slash.

[sweet pagoda]

I found the first head within like an hour of starting my run, lol

[fossil delta]

I knew about pierce, I just never noticed the color for slash damage.

[hazy cypress]

Now, Buckler and Bronze sword against a bear could work quite well.

[sweet pagoda]

The color?

[fossil delta]

Sure works better than wood and flint.

[nocturne wolf]

they are not weak to slash, just resistant to pierce and blunt

[hazy cypress]

But, The Elder is weak to fire. Fire arrows are the way to go.

[nocturne wolf]

any bronze melee weapon still works well

[hazy cypress]

Slash seems to do the most damage. More than bludgeon.

[fossil delta]

The color you see when you do damage tells you what a given creature may be weak to.

Or resistant.

[sweet pagoda]

Really?? That's huge

What colors are resistant and what colors are weak?

[nocturne wolf]

yellow damage is weak, grey is resistant

[fossil delta]

White is just neutral/normal.

[dim python]

red means you took damage

i gave the boars food but they are attacking the walls 😤

[fossil delta]

You have to go away, just not too far away, for them to calm down and eat.

Or sneak, if its high enough. I actually use taming as my time to increase my sneak skill.

[nocturne wolf]

even when the boars are tamed you can train sneaking on them, they just can't be alerted

[fossil delta]

You can increase sneak around tamed creatures?

[nocturne wolf]

anything that's not alerted

[fossil delta]

Huh. Learned something new after 5400 hours.

[hazy cypress]

Well...dang....Apparently I wandered too close to the plains. I got clapped by a pair of Fulings

[fossil delta]

They also chase things outside of their biome, which just happens to get them nice and close to you.

[dim python]

thought i could check my boar's tamed status by looking at it through the cracks in the wall. now it's frightened 😤

[hazy cypress]

I could only see it on the edge of the "Fog of War". but they got me. I had one attack me from a long way away from the Plains, but I was able to deal with him. This time I was unprepared.

[hazy cypress]

You have to be hidden.

[dim python]

i thought i was 🥲

[fossil delta]

We do have to be much closer to see their taming status than to see their status in the "wild".

Fortunately we get a nice notification when they reach "tame". Which takes 30+ minutes without the animal whisper mead.

A good time to plant or harvest, or smelt metals, craft things, or sneak around and increase your sneak skill.

IIRC you only need to stay within 60 or so meters of them to tame them.

[safe flower]

64 metres and 30 minutes uninterrupted

The 30 minutes just paused when it gets aggroed

[hazy cypress]

Kinda wish we could break down old tools/weapons into component parts.

[dim python]

hytale has this mechanic

it's pretty good

if mostly useless 🫠

the old tools are good backups for when you realize your old stuff was better

or when you die and your new stuff is across a sea

[fossil delta]

At least it costs us nothing to do repairs.

[fossil delta]

Plus I use them as decorations.

[stable anvil]

think it'd help me with a bit of lag if in my base i kept just one portal and rename it when i need to for all the ones i put around

[dim python]

that's great until you realize you need the closed portal in the middle of the wilderness

[fossil delta]

Thats a way to help with that.

[fossil delta]

I was recently reminded of how important it is for me to label my portals. 😄 😄

[dim python]

not only did my boars tame.... they had two piggies 💗

[stable anvil]

i figured i'd put a board up with signs with all the names

[fossil delta]

Only problem I have with this is I don't always want to go back to base via the same portal. Its not a frequent problem, but it is one I prefer to avoid.

[hazy cypress]

I saw a "walkthrough" that mentioned that. They call it dialer and response.

Basically, 1 or 2 portals at home. All of the portals out in the world are named. If you chose to do a second portal at home name that one "Home" (Upper/lower case matters!). Then you can set/name portals and got to them whenever you want, and have a "Home" portal as well. There is a bit of a hitch with this though. You can only have 2 portals with the same EXACT name.

[dim python]

i just have all my portals link to the same base in the meadows

[fossil delta]

I used to do tons of portals. So back then, I would build portal houses away from my base. Now a days I just use a lot fewer portals, so it rarely even becomes a lag issue for me.

[hazy cypress]

Are there really THAT many cores throughout the world? I'm kinda treating them as a precious commodity.

[dim python]

you get a method of farming them a little later

and there become significantly better cores

[stable anvil]

hm, i see

i had made so many that i have more than 9 at my base and i have an elder arena fort with more

i could make another elder arena fort

[hazy cypress]

I have no idea what that is but I'll guess that it's Epic.

[stable anvil]

its like uh, i built stone walls on the edges of the arena and basically made it a box room with portals lining the inside

and i take a portal to get there then go through another that i want to

[regal cave]

I have so many portals with so many dumb names im about to be a no portal guy

[dim python]

i'm gonna have so much sausage holy joy....

[stable anvil]

i kinda wish there were a clear everything in the game world on the ground button. i think maybe it'd help me because i have no idea what and where and how much i've just dropped forever to be sitting there

i imagine things like these could maybe get my world save time back to 2 seconds

[fossil delta]

Minimize the setting for the grass. I forget the exact name of that setting, but its there.

Plus, unless they are too close to a bench, or similar, they go away after 3 days.

[hazy cypress]

Foliage

[stable anvil]

ah okay

does the amount of map markers i make effect performance in any way?

[dim python]

chat... how reliably would you say i'll be able to craft black soup?

[rapid bison]

It shouldn't since those markers are static and non polygonal. hehe

[stable anvil]

fair

[rapid bison]

You would like, have to litter your map with too many markers for it to render properly and I've yet to do that myself. There might be mods that allow for that level of detail but I prefer having a playable game too.

[sacred jackal]

can you chop with the battleaxe?

[jolly pagoda]

mhm even as a battleaxe it's still an axe lol

[sacred jackal]

nice, is it more effective than the iron axe?

[jolly pagoda]

at chopping trees? no the iron axe has more chop power

battleaxe has more slash

but they can still chop

[dim python]

it's more effective at hitting multiple targets. if you have it, it's good for cutting two tree stem halves or the stem and its stump, among other things

[hazy cypress]

Is it me or ar the "Early Axes" REALLY good?

[jolly pagoda]

I love em

[stable anvil]

havent found those myself yet even though i dont need them necessarily

havent gone to look any non generated meadows

[plush carbon]

Hey, I just defeated my first fortress in Valheim, and as a fan of magic I think it’s absolutely beautiful. It really surprised me—what an amazing game. It never stops impressing me. I don’t know when the new biome will come out, but seeing how they do things, it’s going to be incredible. It’s such a pleasure to play a game this good—I’ve played many, and this is the best. 🫂

[real ridge]

ok so i found a swamp the other day did a lot to make a base and stuff and it turned out to be so small i cant find a sunken crypt on it will a crypt always spawn and i jsut need to look harder or smt?

[hazy cypress]

Nah, somtimes the biome is just small. Heck, even the first Burial Chamber I went into didn't have a single Sirtling Core.

[grim zealot]

Hate the feeling of finally finding the biome you are looking for and it be tiny

[real ridge]

😭

i did so much to like make a base and stuff and was so excited to go exploring and i see black forest after a short bit

[regal cave]

Always scout first before u build

[real ridge]

i know i was just worried i wanted to get smt set up so i can tp

[bitter herald]

Lol wounded

[grim zealot]

I've done the same thing a few times lol

[fossil delta]

Did you at least find flowers? Plus, with swamps, the larger and more round they are, the more likely it is you will find crypts. However, you might, maybe find a mud pile of iron outside of the crypts. Usually 6 to 9 pieces.

[granite grail]

Hey go on and keep the base there anyway. After you defeat the Plains boss you'll get smth that works best at a swamp base

[real ridge]

i didnt look for flowers if im honest

[sweet pagoda]

Just explored my entire starting island and not a SINGLE surtling core on it

[jolly pagoda]

F

[light moat]

Oh dang, are there burial chambers?

[sweet pagoda]

There's only two tiny slivers of black forest, and one has a troll cave and the other has a burial chamber with no cores in it

[light moat]

Oh wow! What’s the seed?

[sweet pagoda]

"greatseed"

Can't say it lives up to its name though

[hazy cypress]

If it makes you feel any better, I've grabbed two Swamp sections so far (both tiny) and neither had crypts.

[sweet pagoda]

I haven't even seen a single troll yet

Guess it's sailing time

[hazy cypress]

What about bears?

[sweet pagoda]

Oh there's plenty

[hazy cypress]

Hmm...from your description you may have to change your name from Diogenes to Damoclese.

[sweet pagoda]

Lmao

[hazy cypress]

When sailing, stay close to shore, if you have to go out into the ocean to explore DO NOT do it during a storm or at night.

[sweet pagoda]

Why would that be?

[hazy cypress]

Do you really want the spoilers?

[jolly pagoda]

do it and find out

[sweet pagoda]

I've done both before and nothing happened

[hazy cypress]

Lucky then.

[sweet pagoda]

What, are there krakens or something in the ocean?

[hazy cypress]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-side-eye-rolling-window-up-gif-13323690016508828792

[sweet pagoda]

I don't know if it's storming, but it is raining in game right now, and I'm collecting the materials for a basic raft, maybe I'll find out soon

[hazy cypress]

Good luck. From what I understand, Raft is...BS. However, you have no cores to make the things to make bronze to make the Karve so...Raft it is.

[sweet pagoda]

I also hate the raft, but it's unfortunately my only option

[hazy cypress]

Have you really explored ALL of your island?

[sweet pagoda]

A good deal of it, except for a little sliver

Maybe that sliver has one dungeon with 10 cores and I didn't know

[hazy cypress]

That little sliver could lead to either another section, or another island that is right next to yours.

[regal cave]

Dont raft across ocean stay on shore till u can cross to where u see

[sweet pagoda]

Dungeons feel actually quite difficult when you have extremely underleveled gear, I usually explore them with troll leather at the very least

Well, maybe not extremely but you get the point

[hazy cypress]

I thought my starting island was absolutely HUGE, which it kinda is. However, I found that there was a small break between me and the next island, which is where I found the Vendor in Black Forest.

[regal cave]

I agree. Gotta know what ur doing

[sweet pagoda]

I've done three runs now, one going to the swamp, and I've never found the trader

Heyyy that sliver DID have more black forest!!

[jolly pagoda]

ayy

[opaque sequoia]

how do yall approach making a wall with a body of water in the way
ideally i wouldnt have to wall off this river but the water is just shallow enough for monsters to get throuigh

i tried just walling off the entire river but it looks fugly as hell lowk

[thin elbow]

Raise ground so that the slope from the water is too steep for them to climb

[light moat]

Hmm might be able to do some clever terraforming 🤔

Ah, yeah Spartends said it better than me, solid idea

[opaque sequoia]

wouldnt they be able to just like swim right past my meticulously constructed walls

[light moat]

Ideally your terrain walls would meet with your constructed walls to create a barrier 🤔

[sweet pagoda]

The little sliver happened to have another burial chamber, praying it has at least 5 cores

[stable anvil]

why are there miniboss raids? i killed them

i'm not fond of thungr and zil showing up to my house with a 1 star berserker

while their heads are on my wall already

[light moat]

Sorry, now you’re stuck with some pretty powerful raids 🌚

[stable anvil]

it doesnt make sense though

[light moat]

Those raids are at least one reason I don’t return the chests.

[light moat]

I agree 🤔

[hazy cypress]

Any luck?

[stable anvil]

like, it's not a difficulty thing. i'm just annoyed. they should be dead

they disappeared off somewhere while i was fighting the berserker so i guess theyre gone

[light moat]

Yeah, I don’t find raids to be particularly difficult or challenging. Just some pests that show up and destroy my plants that can’t be replaced
I usually just turn off raids.

[stable anvil]

at least brenna's trophy is useful for light i guess if you angle 4 vertical item stands

still doesnt make sense

[sweet pagoda]

Found one core and then I died. Turns out there's also not a single troll on this whole island, I thought I saw a troll cave a little while ago but I can't find it again, maybe I mistook a rock structure for the entrance to one

[dark coyote]

thats a bummer, I try to setup portals before I hit the water

[hazy cypress]

Mark every deposit, cave, burial chamber, blueberry location, and pine tree area that you find.

[sweet pagoda]

That's what I already do, except for blueberries and pines

[hazy cypress]

You're gonna need blueberries.

And Pines for Core Wood

[sweet pagoda]

I also mark notable structures like certain ruins I can use for shelter or trolls

[sweet pagoda]

Eh, pines are everywhere in the black forest, marking all of them would clutter the map too much

[dark coyote]

I do that too, I leave a campfire there and mark it with the campfire icon, in case I need to sleep

[vital bison]

hello

[hazy cypress]

Fair. They're also easier to spot. Blueberries on the other hand, are much more difficult to spot.

[sweet pagoda]

What are blueberries useful for?

[hazy cypress]

Recipes once you get the cauldron. Also, Collect all the carrot seeds you can find.

[regal cave]

Trust

[hazy cypress]

Alright kids, I'm out for the night. Been MORE than a long day for me. Time to get a bit of rest.

[regal cave]

Night king

[alpine wyvern]

when is the north update

[regal cave]

Yes

[jolly pagoda]

some foods. other stuff

[stable anvil]

+1 at the food prep table making my plains feast. thats a nice feeling

[azure pumice]

Is there a mod or a command or something that allows me to see how a chest has been interacted with to see if someone stole anything?

[bitter herald]

Between the game crashing whenever I make progress and saves not working the ashlands is actually impossible as a solo, such a disappointing end to a otherwise great game

[willow willow]

Are there any public servers on this game

[jolly pagoda]

valheim crashing? almost 1k hours and I've never seen that happen

[charred gulch]

can i join server w/ open mic dc

[bitter herald]

I never had it crash either, but as soon as I got to ashlands it’s every 10 minutes

[rapid bison]

Like one of the voice chat channels in this server?

[rapid bison]

Every server on that community tab in the game is player driven. No official servers from the devs.

[dull warren]

LOL jumped over a wall and died

whoops

[supple canyon]

can i upload thris trap?🙏

[fossil delta]

You have lowered the graphics settings?

[sweet pagoda]

Is there a way to do like a true creative mode for this game where you have access to every building and whatnot?

[fossil delta]

Console commands.

[bitter herald]

It’s on performance mode, i also tried turning off all the stuff like sun shafts, soft particles ect, deleted all my old back up saves, turned the loot drop down to 0.5 but still crashing. I think it’s the fort nearby where I built? Everytime it loads in/out my game struggles hard

[fossil delta]

What system are you on?

[sweet pagoda]

Is there a command that can give me every blueprint? I know there's a way to make buildings free

[fossil delta]

I don't even use CC"s, so only know about those for building.

[bitter herald]

Xbox series X

I also turned off the shield generators (I had 2) I haven’t crashed in 30 minutes now tho so maybe one of those worked?

[fossil delta]

It's probably some issue not discovered with the port for the system.

@near furnace can probably give you some advice on how to get help.

Since he was just active in general.

[near furnace]

don't have time today. but #xbox-bugs-discussion

I ain't working saturdays 😅

[fossil delta]

Understandable

[fossil delta]

Have you tried #xbox-bugs-discussion ?

[bitter herald]

Nah just the help channel, if i crashes again I will tho. This is the longest it’s lasted so far

[stable anvil]

almost one in game week trying to find a 2 star wolf

is it night only? thats the only time ive been looking

[worn cloak]

yeah it's night only

and you also gotta tame it at night so it doesnt despawn

[stable anvil]

you mean start the process with some meat right? not like...somehow be tame already by morning

[tacit crystal]

Start the process of taming during night, not fully tame which is impossible without cheat commands.

[stable anvil]

this may take a while. i'm lucky so far if i see a 1 star wolf at night. so much wolf materials from killing them i dunno what i'll do with it all

[tacit crystal]

Excess meat can be burned into coal on cooking stations. Teeth/trophies into obliterator.

Or just leaving them outside the spawnproof area, they despawn after an hour.

[stable anvil]

that'll work

[tacit crystal]

And wolves won't eat their meat, which should be clear without even saying.

[nocturne wolf]

if you're just giving them their meat without any wolf left on the outside how would they even know

[stable anvil]

oh, 2 star is 1%? i dunno if i have the patience for that. that could get boring very quickly

[tacit crystal]

It can be over quickly or after some time, depending on rng.

[stable anvil]

i kinda wish i hadnt found out the odds. i might have kept trying

[tacit crystal]

I had very good luck with one certain 2 star mob recently. So rng can really giveth sometimes.

[thorny saffron]

i generally hunt for a 2 star wolf when ive reached ashlands progression

[silver hinge]

Is it possible to enable console commands in the alpha version of the game? Build 0.79.10 specifically. -console and F5 doesn't work.
I'm doing archeology and the console would help a lot.

[nocturne wolf]

use /cheatsplease in chat
the available cheat commands are /spawn, /goto, /exploremap, /resetmap, /killall, /beard and /hair

also spawn is case-sensitive in this version

[silver hinge]

Ah, ofc! Didn't think of the chat. Thank you very much

Wish there was a fly command though, but I'll take it

[plush carbon]

I don't know if it was luck, but in my first Ashland fortress I found 5 gems: 2 lightning, 2 fire, and 1 poison. In my second one, I only found one gem.

[spark plover]

that first one was amazing, gz

[nocturne wolf]

they're blood gems, not fire. still a good find though

[jagged cliff]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/nnuXeDDk6f4

[regal cave]

Thats sick

[plush carbon]

Thanks, it was too good to be normal

[plush carbon]

Yes, it's the custom of seeing something red and saying it's fire.

[real ridge]

is there like a rowing boat i can make this wind is always against me

[nocturne wolf]

at speed 1 boats are not affected by wind

[real ridge]

goat

[regal cave]

Is going backwards faster? I have heard this but never tried

[unkempt rampart]

Do you guys go mountain or plains after swamp?

[spark plover]

mountain is the next biome

[nocturne wolf]

mountain is after swamp

[simple nest]

Plains are too early

[full star]

can a pc user play with a xbox user?

[vocal aspen]

Has deep north dropped yet?🫩

[lone rampart]

Not yet. It will release when it’s ready.

[vocal aspen]

I’ve heard that same excuse for over a year now😾

[lone rampart]

Three months tops, don’t be so dramatic.

[vocal aspen]

3 months = it ain’t coming

[lone rampart]

You misunderstand me. The announcement was in January I believe that deep north would release “when it is ready”

So you haven’t been hearing that for a year. Three months, tops.

[hearty flume]

Random comment: Is it weird that I have made a AI song about the game?

[lone rampart]

It’s weird that you claim creative rights if AI did it for you

[hearty flume]

I wrote the text but made the music and such with AI

I got the inspiration from the story they made about Hervor Bloodtooth

[jolly pagoda]

Good things take time to make

Get over it

[winter glen]

Honestly how much money did these devs make 😂 its been like what 3 years for a major update

[shrewd garnet]

Yeah just take a look at rust and dayz

[winter glen]

I mean those games are completely different and you cant compare dayz with valheim. Dayz has always been a mess . Look at the 1.29 update and all the cheaters

[spark plover]

Tbh, the game is still amazing and I rlly appreciate all the work from the devs

[shrewd garnet]

I don't even know what you guys are arguing about I just wanted to make a sarcastic comment, dayz and rust are still shit though after all this time and that's just a fact, valheims nice though.

[winter glen]

All im saying is that these valheim devs made ton of money so taking so long for a update then there has to be so much content its a new game

[winter glen]

Rust is alright just cheaters, and questionable updates against solo players

But valheim is a great game even without the deep north

[shrewd garnet]

I would disagree with rust being alright but we're gonna be sitting here arguing semantics for an hour

[winter glen]

Yeah rust is a performance shitshow but not really alot they can do when 30 man Chinese zerg built the international space station on every server

[regal cave]

I dont think money helps the devs that much since they are intentionally keeping their team small

But i agree with agent im glad I like valheim

[winter glen]

Well more money then recruit more people

[regal cave]

Did u not read what I said

[tacit crystal]

More people doesn't always mean faster updates, especially in smaller company.

And they intend to stay smaller.

[winter glen]

Why keep team small when you have lots of money for new people thats what i wanted to say

[regal cave]

Because reasons

[winter glen]

Ah well looks like we gonna be playing deep north when gta 7 releases

[winter glen]

Greed

[sly quail]

why would they hire more people when they made a shit load of money, less people = more money to spend on themselves

game development = business

[spark plover]

I don't think that makes sense

[regal cave]

Maybe think about it before feeling emotions

[lone rampart]

Maybe think at all 🤣

Looks like the ground is shaking

[tacit crystal]

Work culture is different in smaller team. And having good work life balance means they want to work on the project on longer period.

Greed is what turns most big AAA games into mtx cashcrabs.

[spark plover]

I think if they were actually greedy they would make a dlc or smth

[lone rampart]

Imagine how awful it would be if they were rushed and pushed to their breaking point to meet some arbitrary deadline. coughbethesdacough

[quasi night]

also, hiring more people doesn't make a project go faster, quite the opposite

[lone rampart]

I love our devs and I know they’ll do right by us 💖 Just have faith and patience

[quasi night]

the more people you have working on a project, the more complex the network of information between them

[lone rampart]

Not to mention the time it takes having to train the new folks

[near furnace]

🤔

[shrewd garnet]

Anyone here actually involved in game development or is the armchair army at it once again

[hazy cypress]

Wrong channel. I was having an issue with discord.

[near furnace]

I am

[shrewd garnet]

Makes sense you're not the one arguing

[near furnace]

no

[hazy cypress]

How is everyone doing this morning?

[lunar sapphire]

It's morning

?

[near furnace]

but some people have started bringing it up constantly to make people angry

[tacit crystal]

It's morning always at some place in world.

[hazy cypress]

1023 my time.

[lunar sapphire]

Rigged!

12:23 am here

[near furnace]

16:23!

[hazy cypress]

Ah, so you're a "tomorrow" person. LOL

[lunar sapphire]

I am! now behave and I might just change your future

[hazy cypress]

As an aside, that's still "morning".

[lone rampart]

Do it I dare you

[lunar sapphire]

-# Rain gets ice cubed

[quasi night]

do you live in the middle of the ocean ?

[near furnace]

notice how the troll quietly stop talking

[lunar sapphire]

There's land masses there too but thanks for blindly stabbing a globe

[hazy cypress]

🤨 That was 2 days ago...

[shrewd garnet]

Theodore roosevelt made a nice speech called the man in the arena, or "it's not the critic who counts" that I would recommend anyone to read, as for constructive criticism that's a whole different ordeal.

[near furnace]

oh for sure

the crittics won't buy your product anyhow

[lone rampart]

I kid you not, it suddenly started raining and the temperature noticeably dropped

[lunar sapphire]

oh my god give

[near furnace]

they just want to be angry for the sake of being angry

[lone rampart]

Shares

[shrewd garnet]

Yeah those are the souls who know neither victory nor defeat as he put it, not worth your time.

[near furnace]

correct

the trick is. they aren't here to make me upset

they are here to make players upset

[lunar sapphire]

or you know. generally get a reaction

[hazy cypress]

Quick Question: Do wraiths only appear at night in the swamps?

[lone rampart]

It’s sad, when you think about it. Most trolls only troll because “any attention is good attention.”

[lunar sapphire]

What trolls

[lone rampart]

There are some rare day spawning wraiths in structures but not many