valheim-chat

[heady parcel]

Don't think weight in inventory makes a difference, I normally cart with full inventory load (including temp buffs like Moder's and Troll mead) and about half load to get the best flow. But you need to sprint when going uphill, just walking won't be enough, nearly ever. So stay rested so you can sprint a lot - and consider using the ratatosk mead.

[pliant hatch]

Coins are found in the burial chambers and by killing trolls.
There's also gems found in the burial chambers you can sell to him for more coins.

Later in the swamp you'll be able to find coins in sunken crypts and two biomes after that some of the monsters may drop coins as well.

[mellow ore]

i thought it was gonna be insanley hard after the swamp

[hollow lance]

is the heart of the forest trinket good? i set spawn at BF for overnight mining and the forest raid happened. a shamrock dropped his trophy now it should be craftable

[hollow lance]

thank you so much,ive been avoiding all the gems for inventory space.. 🤦‍♂️

[heady parcel]

Going out in Plains at night wearing swamp/mountains gear will probably be challenging, yes.

[hollow lance]

so amber is a material he buys from us?

[pliant hatch]

Moder's power, troll and ratatosk mead aren't available when you are in teh bronze age.
So while the advise is sound, it won't help much in this case.

[brisk walrus]

don't worry that chalenges await you in the later bioms ^^

[hollow lance]

swamp->mountain>plains or swamp>plains>mountains?

[brisk walrus]

swamp is still in the beginning of the game

[heady parcel]

Mountains is a bit of an odd biome, it doesn't have a great difficulty spike, but the terrain itself and certain mobs that can yeet you off the mountain if you slack up - it can bring a few deaths.

[pliant hatch]

Amber, amber pearls and rubies are the things he buys.

[hollow lance]

okay i see

[dark coyote]

I disagree, it requires a boat at least

[hollow lance]

finally,after 30 minutes ive made it home from the black forest god

[mellow ore]

good i cant wait but progression is slow

[gray sand]

Highly depends on seed.

[brisk walrus]

well, once you find the location of the next boss you can just go there imediatly to beat him without farming the weapons and armor upgrade ^^

[heady parcel]

Point is when dragging a cart uphill you need to apply force (=sprint) or you won't get anywhere. Any buffs that lets you sprint more makes it easier, no fault in mentioning them methinks.

[hollow lance]

i have 160 coins, what can i purchase from haldor? how much does he his materials from us for?

[pliant hatch]

I think there's one item at 150 coins, but that's it.
Not certain about the gems, but a full stack of them does make 300-ish coins. Maybe even more.
The Meginjord will cost 900 coins.

[heady parcel]

Lazy bear, wouldn't hunt hares

[wintry valve]

All trinkets are good. Earlier trinkets gives relatively small bonuses but are way easier to trigger than later trinkets.

Which one you want to use should reflect on what you think you consistently find yourself lacking.

Keep in mind that, aside for one notable exceptions, trinkets are mostly to help with big fights, and are pretty useless when dealing with a few enemies.

[hollow lance]

holyyy okay.

whats the best armor and weapons for the bronze age? im full bronze armor with the deer cape and using wooden shield and bronze buckler

do we also reccomend i craft a karve and sail to the island i can see from shore that contains black forest? sounds easiest to get tin which is currently what im lacking in,and it sounds safer and faster than the long journey with the cart to the BF across the starter island

[dark coyote]

dual weilding shields, very nice

[hollow lance]

u can dual wield shields?

[dark coyote]

u can?

[pliant hatch]

He's selling several items, but the Meginjord is the only one all players agree on it's good and absolutely needed.

Personally I'm buying the Dvergr Circlet, the fishing rod and the Yule hat as well, but that's a personal preference.
The circlet is useful when exploring dungeons, but at the cost of armor; the fishingrod is useful if you want to craft a good food in the 5th biome and the yule hat is a nice "wanna have" item.

[hollow lance]

?

[hollow lance]

ohh okay nice

how do i get more cauldron recipes? all i got is boar jerky

[wintry valve]

you pretty much have to make a karve at some point

[pliant hatch]

Have you picked the white flowers in teh Black Forest yet?

If not, do so, then craft a cultivator - if you don't have that yet - and plant those seeds.
Replant what you get from that to get more seeds, then plant the seeds again.

You can basically use 33% of the plants to be replanted for seeds and the rest for food items.

[hollow lance]

i found carrot seeds,but havent picked the white flowers yet

[pliant hatch]

As for armor, it's what you feel most comfortable with.
Some go for light (troll armor), some go for the heavy (bronze) armor and some go for medium (bear armor).
Eventually you will use all armor parts combined to get the bonus from each piece, but the better armor from others.

White flowers = carrot seeds.

Plant those and when you got carrots, plant the carrots to get more seeds. Then plant all seeds and from that point on use 1/3rd for seeds and the rest for food.

Sorry, but don't want to spoil too much.

[hollow lance]

okayokay

[heady parcel]

I'm a great fan of heavy armours, simply because they fit my playstyle - I get hit often because sloppy parrying and mistimed dodging, so a bit of passive armour truly helps. If you are more confident in your own skills, you can go with lighter armours and enjoy a bit more mobility. Heavy armour slows you down a bit.

[hollow lance]

i dont see the different between heavy and light, my character feels as if hes as swift as before with leather and troll. whats the benefits of heavy do they make your posture stronger? or reduced damage?

and cant u still dodge fine with heavy armor?

[pliant hatch]

Heavy got more armor, but also a movement penalty. Light doesn't have that.

[heady parcel]

It has stronger armour, so you take less damage for every hit you take. You move 10% slower, but you can dodge freely, that is not affected.

[hollow lance]

i havent noticed the penalty yet but i guess ill figure it out when i play more,thanks

[mellow ore]

is it worth making iron armour im using the bear one rn

[heady parcel]

Dangit, I can hear a Horn of Doom around my Mistlands outpost, but I can't find him. And I know for certain if I move away it will find my shrooms and bomb them to kingdom come

[dark coyote]

no ballista?

[heady parcel]

Haven't found any dvergr outposts yet

So, no sap, no eitr as of yet. Also the only mine I found so far only had two cores. But at least I have some mistlands foods.

[hollow lance]

why is my brone buckler weaker than my flint spear? and whys the durability so much worse? the games making it out to look like the stonge age was better than the bronze age irl.

[pliant hatch]

Durability gets better the more you upgrade items.
Same goes to what you're able to do with it, although block and armor value are basically fixed numbers.

[polar flame]

Backpacks when? 😅

[heady parcel]

I believe your answer is somewhere in the mods channels...

[polar flame]

Lol I know. I was just being goofy.

[heady parcel]

And I provided you with a sufficiently boring answer 😉

[polar flame]

I dont want to mod valheim though. Im still on my first real playthrough.

The megginjord is nice. Its just, and I know this is already something the devs are aware of, later on in the game it really doesnt feel like enough.

[heady parcel]

But, we do have some signals from the devs that they do in fact want to do something about inventory, since the last update added a few more things we want to bring along on our adventures. So time will tell if and how they do anything to expand on the inventory.

[pliant hatch]

If it's about weight, then Meginjord, Moder power and troll mead to a lot.
If you want to have more speed while having a high load, use the ratatosk mead instead of troll mead.

For the rest, there's always the cart or the boats inventory.
And pocket portals.

[polar flame]

Yeah. I know, I'm just impatient 😅.

Yeah I know but I made a bit of a big base with my friends and not only that but bringing different weapons for different scenarios and such too. Also, I dont want to have to spend the time to fish a bunch of trollfish... moder is nice but sometimes five minutes isnt enough, especially in the mistlands where having yagluth and bone mass can make a big difference.

[heady parcel]

Weight limit was never much of an issue, it was always the available slots. I do understand the reasoning behind the current design - it does force us to make choices on what to bring and what to leave behind, depending on what we're going to do - but with the recent trinkets and magic staves added over the last two biomes, the original inventory IS a bit small.

[polar flame]

Besides. Lately the issue hasn't been carry capacity, so much as just no having deep enough pockets.

Yeah.

I think even just having one or maybe even two extra rows of space would be plenty tbh.

Although, dedicated equipment slots would also work.

A weapon wheel would be cool too. As well as being able to (if dedicated equipment slots happened) equip arrows in a slot like that, maybe a slot in the weapon wheel for toggling arrow would be nice. But I dont know if that would necessarily fit well with the devs' vision

[heady parcel]

My personal view is that a typical inventory (as in many other similar games) where equipped items have a dedicated slot that does not impact the "bagspace" row of slots would be the simplest and cleanest solution. It would free up four slots for armour, one for each hand and two for trinket/accessory - and possibly one for arrows/bolts. That would be enough imo.

With how quickslots work, it might be cleaner to leave main hand/offhand out of it, but I guess there are solutions to that.

[nocturne sage]

Inventory fix is simple. You don’t carry clothes you are wearing in your bags. Character item slots ez pz

[heady parcel]

It would be the logical thing to do, but we'll see

[fossil delta]

They will definitely do something. I seriously doubt even they knew how much gear and materials we would end up with. They now have a much better idea.

[polar flame]

Yeah. Im excited to finally make it to the Ashlands, and eventually the Deep North, but there's going to be so much more new materials...

[brisk walrus]

yup, i feel like the dev made the game to be ideally played with a friend to share the load

[fossil delta]

Personally I manage just fine so far, but it's feeling noticeably tighter. I'm having to portal home more often, for example.

[rotund parrot]

Not only is it more time efficient to go out with an intent to gather certain resources, it also make inventory management a lot easier

[heady parcel]

Haha a good ways into Mistlands near my mushroom outpost (that I build on the boundary between Black Forest/Swamp/Mistlands) I spotted loot sparkling in the mist and ran over - turns out a two-star deer has met its end at the, uh, pincers of some Mistlands menace.

Fascinates me just how long mobs can wander into the "wrong" biome when the circumstance are right

[fossil delta]

Yeah, there are a number of things I would like to take home, but there are few I NEED to take home.

[heady parcel]

Yeah, currently being on a no-portals run I am definietly feeling the limitation a lot more than when you have a pocket portal at hand.

[wintry valve]

About heavy and light armor, this is just common denomination gamers have to differentiate various sets in games. Its not like Valheim really have "heavy" or "light" armor.
But as someone said, you have certain sets that gives more defense than others at a given tier at the cost of slowing you down a bit, which is what we call "heavy".

[heady parcel]

Bloody hell I got unlucky with this mistlands, there nearly no mist-fee areas at all

[tacit crystal]

Gotta think what should I try in next run.
-# And Scales: no, not going to try "no food" run of any sort.

[wintry valve]

If I block a shotgun shot from a charred archer, does it give me like 10 time worth of blocking exp?

[tacit crystal]

The volley of arrows? Should count as individual xps if you manage to block them all.

[nocturne wolf]

They'll only use that attack if you're standing more than 20m away from them

[wintry valve]

meaning I get a bunch of exp?

[nocturne wolf]

Yes, they're all individual hits

[wintry valve]

nice

Its not a strategy I suggest, however. I remember one of them absolutely wrecking me instantly by doing that

[heady parcel]

Getting hit by all of them is pretty hard to begin with

[nocturne wolf]

Flametal shield should block the damage well, 60 damage is pretty low by that point in the game

[wintry valve]

Its just that it creates some kind of reflex and if you try that with a one star archer, the result may surprise you

[gray sand]

Valheim made it to WhatCulture with them explaining how to use campfires to kill bosses 😄

[heady parcel]

Dangit, worthless Mistlands island so far. One skull, one mine (w two cores) and zero dvergr settlements. Got a shroom farm up and running, but apart from that not much in the way of progress.

turned out 80% of the area was elevated enough to become mountain..

But anyone who never even thought about it - do consider a no-portals run. It changes everything about how you plan journeys, exploration and where you place your bases. Heck, even road building becomes an important aspect...

Takes a lot more time, yes - so if you're all about beating the game as quickly as possible it won't be your thing, but for anyone who enjoys taking their time I truly recommend it.

ARGH!!!

I get back to my home base after being away for about a week in-game, and a flock of lox have levelled my park. What a bloody mess...

[gray sand]

How many did you kill? 👀

[heady parcel]

All of them

[gray sand]

Gooooooooooooood.

[heady parcel]

They were chasing a deer it seems. Deer being kinda good at avoiding big slow things, it made my pretty park plantation unfortunate collateral

[gray sand]

Why is something that eats cloudberries hunting a deer? 😭

[heady parcel]

They just angry beasts

[gray sand]

Not the sweet fwuffy lox 🙁

[heady parcel]

Not so much. But they are much like normal cattle that way. They look all sweet and fluffy at a distance, but if you annoy them they get very salty

Granted, your average cow requires a bit more provocation to go on a rampage, but they do have it in them...

[hollow lance]

best foods for Black Forest,and how do i acquire ingredients if the best food is in cauldron?

[gray sand]

Food sheet is pinned in this channel. You want the Configurations tab.

[heady parcel]

Deer Stew, Carrot soup, minced meat sauce

[hollow lance]

another q prioritize stamina or health?

[heady parcel]

Grow carrots

[hollow lance]

thank you

[hollow lance]

sir yes sir

[gray sand]

This is entirely your choice to make.

And the 3 foods he listed are not "best."

[hollow lance]

can u # it?

[heady parcel]

Also, if you prefer more stamina a combo deer stew, boar jerky and carrot soup is good

[gray sand]

Also no 😄

[hollow lance]

does his list prirotize hp or stam?

[hollow lance]

i see

[gray sand]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1b_obmQ_F5u5p-2K0NvFNzL2aHWLauisve63lvOsoD54/edit?gid=2047891512#gid=2047891512

[hollow lance]

bro who to believe 💔

[gray sand]

The sheet is complete.

Best is subjecthive.

[hollow lance]

in the sheet whats 'feast'?

[gray sand]

Something you will not get until Swamp.

[heady parcel]

Then there's the jam (raspberries+blueberries) if you really want to go stamina, mind you it burns fast (short duration) so I personally only use it for fishing

[gray sand]

@heady parcel are you choosing to leave out Jam for some reason?

[hollow lance]

okay

[heady parcel]

See my post just above 😄

[hollow lance]

i think ill go HHS i always did that in the meadows anyway and rn i am too, deer meat boar meat honey

[heady parcel]

With the bears running around the forest these days, I don't think I'll ever go HSS there again...

[hollow lance]

btw should i stick to my flint spear lvl 3 over my bronze buckler? it deals more damage with its pierce i think,and it has higher durability

[heady parcel]

Spear and buckler go fine together?

[hollow lance]

god they are scary but stupid,literally 2 feet away from me on the other side of the wall and didnt even notice me

[gray sand]

Spear and Buckler can be used at the same time, so idk what "over" is about?

[hollow lance]

i dont mind dual wielding

wait what do you mean used at the same time? 2 handed? or i can switch between

[gray sand]

Spears are 1-handed.

[hollow lance]

your making me sound like a dumbass

[heady parcel]

You are pretty much expected to use the one-handed weapons with a shield of some type

[abstract lion]

hello all!

[gray sand]

You're* (see the difference 😉 )

[hollow lance]

i saw someone say use altegir because it stuns,but it didnt stun the bear at ALL..

[hollow lance]

got me there

[gray sand]

We are just explaining things.
Correcting spelling is the "making sound like" line 😛

[gray sand]

Bears resist pierce so...

[hollow lance]

fr? whats best against them

i want to usea sword but i got 0 stat on it and like 20 on my spear

[heady parcel]

They resist pierce and blunt, so axes or swords

[gray sand]

If I may recommend something to you with the utmost importance?

[hollow lance]

go ahead

[heady parcel]

or knives if you're the stabby type

[hollow lance]

dang okay

[hollow lance]

i cant find a bronze dagger in my crafting menu, only a butchering knife if i remember

[gray sand]

Stop giving a shit about what is "best" in the game.
Just play it, use the weapons and armor you enjoy using.

[heady parcel]

What sev is saying - if you survive and have fun - it is good

[hollow lance]

fair point but i dont want to be weaker than im supposed to be, im struggling facing bears and rely on arrows for trolls which i find cowardly

[hollow lance]

THATS THE PROBLEM IM ON THE BRINK OF SURVIVAL

[gray sand]

There's only 2 instances I can think of where something is objectively "best" across the whole game.
Everything else is about a 5-10% difference at most.

[hollow lance]

okay okay

[heady parcel]

Everyone rely on bows against trolls at first, you don't go toe-to-toe with those guys for a very valid reason - if they hit you it is often game over

[hollow lance]

isnt the girl in your user tag the one caught cheating on cs or something?

[gray sand]

That's food.
Food is the most important stat in the game. Gear is irrelevant if your food sucks.
Gear is also largely irrelevant if your food is amazing.

[hollow lance]

how much hp do i need to tank a hit, and how much hp do i need to parry a hit?

[abstract lion]

gotta learn the attacks patterns and adapt

[hollow lance]

my food gives me around 90hp all the time and 100 stam

[gray sand]

Lightning is a fictional character from Final Fantasy... but ok?

[hollow lance]

the 'gina' thingy

[gray sand]

Doesn't even play CS?

[hollow lance]

ok forget it bro

[gray sand]

We are not related.

[hollow lance]

....

you are too woke stranger

[heady parcel]

The theorycrafting you can find on the Wiki I think. The formula goes - the more health, armour and block you have, the less likely to get staggered when blocking you are

[gray sand]

I genuinely don't even know what that means.

[abstract lion]

last time I played I think it was around 70 block to fully parry it

[hollow lance]

idek either i just saw it on tiktok

[hollow lance]

thank you, did u take damage or stumble back when u parried at 70?

[hollow lance]

thanks

[abstract lion]

no

[gray sand]

Armor doesn't affect blocking.

[abstract lion]

70 block of the skill I meant.

[hollow lance]

oh god okay

[gray sand]

Bronze Buckler rank 1 with 0 skill on normal needs 77 max HP to parry all troll attacks.

[hollow lance]

70 skill with what tho? could a 25hp 70 skill parry a troll?

[gray sand]

Rank 3 shield drops that to 44.

[hollow lance]

thats odd, i swear having 50 hp and stumbling

[gray sand]

Food is the most important stat in the game, not skills.

[hollow lance]

i got it

[abstract lion]

they help tho

[heady parcel]

Doesn't it affect if the incoming damage will stagger me? Always thought that...

[gray sand]

Parry is a timing thing, you need over 100 HP to block without being staggered.

[hollow lance]

aha okay

what does the bear armour help with, troll makes u swifter and sneakier, bronze durable, whats bear?

[gray sand]

Parrying the slam at 0 skill takes 44 HP, at 100 skill it takes 30.
🤷‍♂️ Food matters more than the stat does.

[hollow lance]

so at 30 hp 100 skill u would still stagger?

[gray sand]

30 MAX health. So you'd have to eat... almost nothing given base max HP is 25.

[hollow lance]

okayy

[gray sand]

As noted when numbers on the sheet turn grey, it's because they are less than 25 so you can always parry them.

Red numbers indicate the max health needed is not attainable with current food, so the attack is unparryable.

[hollow lance]

im confused

what do you mean, red numbers when

[gray sand]

Blocking sheet that is pinned in this channel.

[hollow lance]

oh i get you wait when they attack and its grey or red?

let me check

is it 'blocking breakpoints'?

[gray sand]

Yes.

[hollow lance]

so whats that big bar next to my shield when i block something?

[gray sand]

Scarlet summed up my work with so little words 😭

[hollow lance]

why the hell is there formulas to work ts out

no im avoiding revising why am i seeing formulas 3 days before school

[shy marlin]

game sucks 🥀

[gray sand]

Because it's a video game? So math is inherent to how it functions?

You don't have to care about the formulas. The sheet automatically does all the math for you.

[hollow lance]

ok bro

[gray sand]

Again, we are not related.

[heady parcel]

Also, you're perfectly fine to just play the game and learn by doing what works and what does not work...

[shy marlin]

yea there's some joy in "can i parry this"

[hollow lance]

i dont wanna risk death and running all the way to get my loot though

[heady parcel]

Basic rule is - if you want to be tanky and survive getting hit, health foods and heavy armour is good. If you want to be nimble and dodge, parry and move your way to success, light armour and more stamina is the way.

[gray sand]

If you want to be better at parrying -- Health > Stamina.

Armor being irrelevant to blocking.

[hollow lance]

to be honest i could solo a troll naked with a dagger but those pesky greydwarfs and brutes and stuff make me nervous

also can you parry or dodge a troll with a log?

[gray sand]

Yes.

[hollow lance]

Okay.

[gray sand]

They do the same damage as ones without. Just different animation timings.

[heady parcel]

Choice of weapons mostly about personal preference, but I always recommend not focusing on one weapon type, because different enemies have different weaknesses. If you focus on e.g. spears you'll struggle against some enemies that spears are simply not that good against. You'll still manage - but it will be a bit harder.

[hollow lance]

dont they have longer range?

[gray sand]

Is that a concern when parrying?

[hollow lance]

i got a pierce weapon and a blunt weapon rn

[hollow lance]

it is a concern when dodging

[gray sand]

Timing the dodge/parry is just timing. Range isn't a factor unless you're considering not dodging it because you think they are too far to hit you.

[hollow lance]

thx

so what does troll armour do that makes it different from bronze,excluding movement speed?

[ember egret]

Just stealth

[tacit crystal]

+15 to sneak skill when wearing the full set (including cape).

[hollow lance]

does anyone know the durability on them? are they a big dif from bronze

[gray sand]

If you look at it in the workbench it should show you all the stats.

[torpid stratus]

I just bought the game, is it easy to play solo? My friend I'm gonna play it with only plays sometimes, so I was thinking of having a 2nd world for myself

[tacit crystal]

It's different solo vs co-op, but the game is balanced around solo experience. For co-op experience the game scales the enemy damage and hp per player count in same area.

[storm merlin]

looking for someone to play with, returning player, hit me up

[tacit crystal]

You might want to try your luck in https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1024264966712340510 👍

[abstract bolt]

me

[uncut bough]

wow i did not expect boat ramming to do so much dmg to serpent. I just crossed the T on a serpent and i took it to a bit more than half health

it did take my longboat to half health too

[obsidian raven]

Trolls without logs throw boulders, so they kinda have the longer range

[coarse gust]

has anyone ever actually been hit by one of those?

i feel like they miss even if you stand still

[wintry valve]

Someone said that at first you use bows against trolls. While true, a spear also deal with them really well.

[glossy heath]

i always take em on with a flint knife and dodge rolls

[wintry valve]

Flint knives are comically powerful early on

[gray sand]

Once you have Buckler, spear is probably the fastest non-sneak way to kill them because you get parry bonus damage + pierce bonus damage.

[ember egret]

Stealth archery does make fighting trolls comically simple

Stealth headshots do like half their health

[wintry valve]

And they act like giant drama queens when it happens, too

[ember egret]

They act like your dad when something falls off the shelf and makes a noise

[jovial sleet]

Are mountain bases viable?
I don't know how often golems are likely to just tear everything down, or if Drake's will just destroy all the roofs that are hard to reach..

[glossy heath]

enemies shouldn't attack roofing, walls, floors and some other things unless they're trying to attack some living target they're alerted to but can't reach

decent spawnproofing and keeping yourself hidden from the sight of enemies tend to be the best base defense in any biome, but noise will likely attract drakes every now and then, ready to aggro once they spot you
i like living in the mountains, but they're probably one of the less convenient biomes to live in (no direct sea access, no crops, can't leave the base without protection from the cold)

[pliant radish]

Imagine asking a question about living in the mountains and you get replied to by some guy with "of the Mountain" in their name

[azure lichen]

lmao

[azure lichen]

No direct sea access you say? my snowy mountain beach begs to differ

[glossy heath]

it can happen, though it's not meant to 😅

[azure lichen]

haha yeah I got one over near a mistlands

[glossy heath]

rivers can cut into mountains, and the ashlands ocean doesn't bother changing the biomes to suit their new altitude

[azure lichen]

sailing in the snow is a cool vibe though for sure

I also just got a tier 5 pike from a river

shit is massive

[turbid glacier]

yoyo

i havent played in a few years

[lunar sapphire]

One moment, I took a screenshot of how easy it was for me to get into ashlands via Karve and feather cape 😛

It's not entirely clear how close it was. But if I was able to sail in to the 2nd most closes pillar before landmass and glide from the pillar to the next to the shore

it's close enough 😄

[glossy heath]

i'm probably forgetting a past conversation that's a continuation of haha

but yea i imagine that's very doable, haven't tried it myself though

[upbeat ginkgo]

does chicken hatch even if i enclosed the hearth itself to prevent smoke?

[fossil delta]

As long as it says it is warm, it will hatch.

[fossil delta]

Found another beehive in the black forest, in the same type of tower I always find it in.

[brisk walrus]

so, what is the most space efficient chest/barrel in the game right now ?

no matter the ressource cost

[tacit crystal]

In 2x4 area you can fit 5 reinforced chests, total of 120 item slots vs. black metal chests which you can fit 3 in same area, total of 96 item slots.

[brisk walrus]

thanks. I'm currently storing all my resources away while rebuilding my house. If only we could displace chest without breaking them 🥲

[tacit crystal]

Also to mention while reinforced chests are taller than others you can pile them in same 1m height by building the top shelf first, then continue downwards.

[polar osprey]

That's how myself and my friend first got to the Ashlands. Pillar to pillar. Swimming in the boiling water. Literally the best memory I have playing this game.

[rotund parrot]

As long as you sail on the border until you spot a piece of land that is close to the border, it's easy to reach the land directly before your boat breaks, without touching a pillar or touching the water

[shy marlin]

Ye

[near furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/yee-yeedinasour-dinasour-gif-4930781

[copper bramble]

or you can find a tall mountain close to ashlands, climb up and bait a golem into hitting you very very hard and floating all the way to the ashlands with the feather cape

[shy marlin]

I can’t wait to do anything but sail to the deep north 😎

[tribal trench]

Oh man when the Deep North update drops it's gonna be cool. I can't wait to see all the new creatures!

[tacit crystal]

Even if the sail would be like a cakewalk?
-# This one comment still humors me.

[shy marlin]

I doubt it’ll be a cake walk

It’ll be disappointing if it is

[tacit crystal]

Hervor made it with longboat.
-# Probably prior to be changed, hopefully.

[nocturne wolf]

There won’t be any walking, we have catapults now

[rotund parrot]

I wouldn't mind if it was mostly chill but instead of having constant easy fights, you get to pick your fights but those fight are hard

[shy marlin]

Well yes

It was in response to just the idea of sailing to the deep north

[brisk walrus]

shhhht, don't want them to nerf the feather cloack again 😓

[wintry valve]

cool, he says

I just wish the deep north doesnt have the monster density the ashland has

[wintry wave]

[brisk walrus]

i heard everywhere it would not. it will seem much more cozy... at first

[wintry valve]

Cozy, until the murder happens

[gray sand]

What can you do with barrels in the same space?

[copper bramble]

barrels are smaller in length than wood chests and have 4 more slots

if you put them on a shelf they are great for storing a bunch of stuff, on 1x1 floors

[tacit crystal]

1 barrel has 12 slots. And barrels can be squeezed in 6 inside 1x4 area, so 2x4 area would hold 12 barrels. Although it would require access to 2 sides of the shelf.

[gray sand]

So technically barrels are the best.
Said technicality being they require access from both sides.

[tacit crystal]

Actually forgot about barrels at first lol.

[rotund parrot]

The limit for me isn't how many chests I can fit, it's how many signs I can fit to know what actually goes in that chest so it's just 4 iron chest by 2x4

[polar osprey]

There is a point in the game where it's easier to farm material for a black metal chest than a reinfoced chest.

All my extra iron goes to building, so black metal is better for me.

[opal prairie]

They get delivered to your doorstep.

[chrome badge]

If you're not clipping chests into each other, black metal chests are about the same where storage to space taken is concerned. There are differing amounts where this changes though. #building-tips message

[noble birch]

how are you suppose to stack adrenaline for fins of destiny on the ocean very not usefull.

unless im using them wrong but Im not sure

[merry pebble]

You can use the forsaken power to activate it again in the ocean

but you are not supposed to have it continuously activated to swim across whole oceans 😄

[noble birch]

my biggest thing rn is ocean travel for my swamp iron but that chance a serpent will spawn is always there just don't wanna drown lol.

[merry pebble]

Well, once you have swamp gear serpents should not be a problem really, they re balanced to be a challenge for BF progression 🙂

[noble birch]

oh ok that's great to know. thank you

[merry pebble]

So with karve and finewood bow you should be able to kill the reliably if you pay attention, anything more than that just makes it easier 😄

[gray sand]

As Asatru pointed out -- Just pop Eikthyr and your swimming is free for the trinket's duration.

[noble birch]

gotcha

goated community some of the most helpful people I've met.

[gray sand]

Screenshotting this for later when someone says I am an unhelpful dick 😏

[shy marlin]

this ignores the fact that you can squeeze the iron chests in more btw

iron chests will always be more storage per unit area

[chrome badge]

I literally prefaced that at the start 😛

[shy marlin]

Didn't we have this convo and I proved you wrong

Alright lmao

That image is still highly misleading

[chrome badge]

I don't see how it's misleading at all.

[shy marlin]

It's displaying two chests having the same value when they really don't

[chrome badge]

I never claim that, I showcase what the two amount to in that layout

[shy marlin]

Which take up the same area

Which relates the two together

[chrome badge]

Right, they're chests

[shy marlin]

But one stores more than the other 🙃

And that image you didn't squeeze the iron chests together as much as you could, and so it's decieving saying that "hey guys, these have the same storage per area" when they factually don't

[chrome badge]

We agreed that black metal chests shouldn't be so close eachother in space to storage ratio regardless.

[shy marlin]

No I didn't

[chrome badge]

#suggestion-discussion message

[shy marlin]

Doesn't mean I agree that they should be so close to each other in storage ratio

[chrome badge]

I said shouldn't.

[shy marlin]

lol

They aren't close in ratios

at all

what i'm saying there is that blackmetal should provide more storage than the iron chests

because of vertical progression

[chrome badge]

Yeah I'm not trying to rehash this point, they are close, and it's okay if you don't agree.

[shy marlin]

They are FACTUALLY not close

🙄 omg man

[chrome badge]

It's fine if you don't agree.

[shy marlin]

you cannot disagree with facts

[chrome badge]

It's just not factual, it's how you're viewing the scale of the differences.

[shy marlin]

NO

I can't man this is braindead

[chrome badge]

I understand, so don't.

[shy marlin]

No, you don't understand

It's an inhereit fact that is true to valheim that iron chests store more items per area than blackmetal chests and just denying that is silly

[chrome badge]

If you only need 1 more floor to achieve what 15 reinforced chests do, with black metal, they are indeed close.

If you're looking at it from a hundreds of chests pov, I understand, but it's just not going to be utilized in this way.

[shy marlin]

And in that one more floor you can fit even more storage with iron chests, it's always factually better, there is NEVER a reason to EVER use blackmetal chests if you're goal is to maximize storage

[chrome badge]

Factually better, but close in ratio.

I think you're confusing what I'm saying a little.

[shy marlin]

No at all

They are NOT close in ratio

[polar osprey]

You're hoarding too much garbage if you need to maximise storage space tbh.

[shy marlin]

That's not the point

[polar osprey]

It really is. You two are bickering over something that doesn't matter.

[chrome badge]

Didn't mean to upset, for me they are close, have benefits like more items per inventory, and allow usage for black metal rather than more iron sinks.

[polar osprey]

You don't generally live in a 2x2 shack when you have access to black metal chests. So why does it matter how many you can squeeze into a tiny area?

I love my blackmetal chests.

[chrome badge]

I tried to get that point across as well, but the 'valheim is almost infinite' point didn't go over.

[shy marlin]

What I'm saying is that it's an inherit fact that reinforced chests provide more storage per area, and to deny that is just silly

[chrome badge]

I agreed earlier and prefaced my statement with the fact that you'd need to ignore object clipping for my example to take any precedence.

[shy marlin]

And the whole, "yea but I can just make my thing bigger" is like well, then you can just use more reinforced chests in that new proposed area and have even more storage

[chrome badge]

I wouldn't stress so much over that.

[shy marlin]

because it's complete nonsense

[chrome badge]

It's really not, especially when it's not even guaranteed players would need enough storage space to notice the difference.

[lunar sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-meme-wtf-cat-huh-wtf-huh-cat-gif-17450980909222787557

[shy marlin]

omg cat gif

[polar osprey]

Yesterday I had a little fire. Trolls thought it would be funny to come visit me at base and I forgot I had fire arrows in my inventory. Spent a good hour or two fixing my roof.

[brisk walrus]

to close the chest debate, in the end i chose the black metal chest. because it looks metal 🤘

[chrome badge]

Yeah, my original intent the first time this was brought up was never to prove which was better, just highlight that black metal chests aren't as bad as they're often made out to be.

[orchid locust]

the chest progression is objectively nonsensical, I agree: 10 -> 24 -> 32
Sure, black metal is technically easier to gather if you live in the plains or you have defeated Yag, but if iron gives you 14 extra slots, why is black metal giving you half of that...

[chrome badge]

I would love if the next chest advancement were similar in slot size to black metal chests, and half the size.

[orchid locust]

and if you consider how you can cram those chests together, it becomes even more dumb of a progression, but hey

[polar osprey]

I like shiny things, what's better than something that's shiny and technically cheaper to make? Nothing really.

I can only imagine what type of storage container they're working on for the update.

[gray sand]

Larger chest, more slots, but hard clearance so you cannot clip them together. Deep North

[merry pebble]

Or none at all 🙂

[gray sand]

Or, watch them not even have a chest.
Watch DN storage be Barrel 2.0 👀

[copper bramble]

i like blackmetal chests bc they are easier and less tedious to organize and storing bulk amounts of one item is aesthetically pleasing. i.e. a full box of any resource is nice to look at

[rotund parrot]

I'd rather use blackmetal chest since they look better but I often end up using iron since it just take less space, the material is not a factor as they are both easy to get

[copper bramble]

yeah blackmetal isn't as "expensive" as iron

iron has way more uses

[rotund parrot]

it's 2 vs 6 bars

[copper bramble]

i'd rather spend 300 blackmetal on something than 60 iron

[polar osprey]

Yeah but iron is key commodity

You need iron for everything

[shy marlin]

world is effectively infinite 🙂

[copper bramble]

#screenshots

[polar osprey]

Your time playing is not though

[copper bramble]

i have so much blackmetal and nothing to spend it on

[polar osprey]

The reality is, black metal is quicker and easier to farm and has no uses other than storage and a one time upgrade of gear.

Iron is used for EVERYTHING else, and takes far longer to aquire copious amounts.

[copper bramble]

raiding villages is more fun than raiding crypts

[rotund parrot]

Which is probably why you think it's easier to obtain than iron

[copper bramble]

now that wood can burn i can let out my inner arsonist with bile bombs

[shy marlin]

i can get that amount in iron in 3 hrs

[brisk walrus]

it is quite fun to destroy a goblin camp with Ashland gear

[copper bramble]

full box or iron in 3 hours? nah

not unless you spawn it in or bring up the resource rate

[shy marlin]

trust me I can, I'll record it when I'm doing my deep north prep

🙂

[merry pebble]

You totally can

[copper bramble]

just getting the ore or also smelting it

[shy marlin]

just ore but smelting is easy

[polar osprey]

In Mistlands you can farm decent iron by disassembling structures, but you need to spend time scouting those bridges before that.

[rotund parrot]

Of course you can, especially if you have a blackmetal pick, access to stone portals and troll meads. But even with a iron pick you can easily get that much iron in 3 hours

[polar osprey]

You are not factoring in scouting an map discovery.

[copper bramble]

3 hours to gather, smelt and bring it all to your base in the mountains?

[shy marlin]

I just said not smelt

Everything else yes

[copper bramble]

without stone portal^^

[polar osprey]

Generally a boat load of iron takes around 6 crypts.

[copper bramble]

no ashlands gear

[shy marlin]

so why are we moving goalposts now?

[rotund parrot]

And that amount would land you 3 times the amount of chests and 50% more storage slots

[gray sand]

You don't need stone portal because you can just world-hop.

[tacit crystal]

No food, no gear, only with antler pick.

[copper bramble]

where would you get a swamp with that many crypts too, without hopping seeds

[shy marlin]

no hit keyboard off, steering wheel only

[merry pebble]

Nah, fishing only, because why not

[copper bramble]

playing with a steering wheel and blindfolded

[gray sand]

World hopping also disallowed 😂 moving goal posts indeed.

[tacit crystal]

Hands tied back.

[analog grotto]

Just set portals to allow everything atp?

[gray sand]

Inb4 that is also disallowed.

[copper bramble]

no valheim allowed

[gray sand]

Get all that iron in that amount of time without playing the game @shy marlin

[analog grotto]

I've never understood why are people using these cheesy strategies when valheim Is a sandbox survival, like just use devcommamds or something why bother with bugs glitches and loopholes...

[copper bramble]

🚎

[polar osprey]

spawn iron 300

[brisk walrus]

world hopping trivializes the game too much... feels like cheating

[gray sand]

Hopping is from before sliders were made.
Now that we have them, yes, just enable portal everything.

[copper bramble]

using commands is not the same as using a bug to get somewhere earlier imo

[chrome badge]

Commands will label your character with the "Cheater!" marker in the stat readout.

[gray sand]

Depends on when you do it imo.
Like if you've collected most all of one thing, then you do need to hop and farm out another world to get more of it.

[copper bramble]

like if i turn on godmode and then beat all the bosses and biomes with no deaths like it would feel like a chore and wouldn't be an accomplishment

[rotund parrot]

I can't see stats anymore on deaths etc. I just see the items I gathered and crafted

[gray sand]

Ashlands gems come to mind as something you legit may need to hop for.

[chrome badge]

I mean the /stats command itself

[polar osprey]

Ashlands gems are a pain

[rotund parrot]

Yeah, while typing that

[gray sand]

Limited fortresses so if you want to make and upgrade everything, I believe you have to hop to accomplish it.

[brisk walrus]

most people who abuse it are still progressing through the game. from my personal experience. having your friends world hop while you stick to one world makes the game feels pointless

[chrome badge]

Oh is it bugged or is the character just very very old?

[gray sand]

That should be communicated to friends up front and if they disrespect your boundaries they should no longer be your friends 🤷‍♂️

[copper bramble]

yeah and if there are multiple players then there won't be enough gems

unless the resource rate is high

[merry pebble]

Not necessarily, but it is a possibility for sure

[copper bramble]

does resource rate effect chest loot?

[merry pebble]

Yep

[copper bramble]

good

[copper bramble]

imagining 4 or larger friend groups or servers with many players coming and going

[polar osprey]

got 3 people in a game, we all want Drynwyn.

[rotund parrot]

It's not an old character, I just see items gathered and crafter

[shy marlin]

why would you want a bad sword

[chrome badge]

It's not inherently an abuse, my friends and I couldn't always play together so we have solo worlds, but when we do meet up, it's fun to show how far along we are and share things we've discovered in our own worlds.

[polar osprey]

Gotta hop.

[gray sand]

So clear a fortress, log out, crank resource to max, log back in, open chest for more gems, log out, set back to normal, log in.

Gotcha 😉

[polar osprey]

It's only abusive if you make it abusive.

[chrome badge]

That's strange, I'd love to see that if you ever get the chance to screenshot it

[copper bramble]

loot fortress, count loot, spawn in more to get 3x the amount

[merry pebble]

Hmm, iirc it affects the loot upon generating the chest, or maybe it was opening? I did test it some time ago, but once you open it it will not affect anything inside if you change drop rate 🙂

[copper bramble]

what's the difference

[gray sand]

Loot is decided before the chest is opened? 😭

[merry pebble]

Will try to look up the convo from when i was testing it, either way you cant change the drops usig droprate once the chest has been opened 😄

[rotund parrot]

Shared the start of the stats list in screenshots

[wicked quarry]

Is it possible to spawn in Flametal? When I looked up the command, its some other ingot that doesnt look like flametal and not sure I could even use it to make stuff with it

[nocturne wolf]

The ID is flametalnew

[wicked quarry]

hmmm I saw that too but it was an odd looking ore

[chrome badge]

Ah you should be able to scroll the list with Pg Up & Pg Down by the Numpad

[rotund parrot]

I did, it start at the bottom with crafts and this is the top

[brisk walrus]

Indeed, but that is very different from world hoping to skip boat travel in a coop world. Or give yourself ressource and equipement with console in solo world then go back to shared world.

[chrome badge]

My point is just that it's not inherently an abuse, I know it can be abused.

[brisk walrus]

indeed. But when creating a server. I hope we get a world option to disable keeping inventory when world hoping to prevent such abuse.

[polar osprey]

Skipping boat travel is abusing. Up until you unlock stone portals, morally speaking.

[brisk walrus]

been there, it kind of destroys the point of the run.

[chrome badge]

I suppose, but it could also just be a problem with trusting who you're playing with.

[polar osprey]

Many people hop worlds to spawn items in via devcommands. Generally when playing with other people one does not have admin access.

[merry pebble]

Yep the loot is decided upon generation of the chest 🙂

[polar osprey]

If you see "Bjorn" logging in and out over and over again it's generally not because he is afraid of afking in base.

[gray sand]

😭

[rotund parrot]

Usually people who world hop on servers are easy to spot since they are very bad and still always end up with the best gear before anyone else

[polar osprey]

How is your wolf armour fully upgraded bro? We have done two veins and split the silver.... 😛

[rotund parrot]

Or you look in their tomb since they often die and you see their armor has been crafted by someone who was never on the server

[polar osprey]

Or worse, crafted by no one at all.

[gray sand]

I can't upgrade any mountain armor until I have the maxed out Silver Sword.

[rotund parrot]

I can appreciate the dedication

[gray sand]

If it wasn't BiS for Yag I would have more options, lol.

Also why tf does the mountain spear require silver but not do ANY spirit damage???

[polar osprey]

I know you don't like Frostner, but Frostner.

[brisk walrus]

it s was worse than that guys. Imagine you just got back from a big expedition and you split all the resources you painfully acquired in half to be faire. with my share I can craft a single weapon or two piece of armor … but then my pal pulls out the entire set, weapon and a blue gem we haven't found yet.

[gray sand]

🤢

[shy marlin]

irongate things

[gray sand]

Good vs. Yag, but not BiS.

[polar osprey]

No, but it does slap into Early Ashlands.

[gray sand]

It does not slap, it punts, which is my issue with it 😄

Keep the punt on the secondary but make it just hit normally on the basic hits and I would love it.
Alternatively, make it a two-handed if you're going to make it punt that far.

[polar osprey]

Ice cold slaps like Mr Smith!

I agree that would be perfect with the heavy for punt.

Do you prefer black metal or silver sword?

[rotund parrot]

I've been killing yag with the silver knife last few playthrough it's genuinely not bad

[gray sand]

Silver is the only sword I use until Krom and only because of Yag. 😄

[brisk walrus]

for everything not undead, black metal sworld, for everything undead, silver.

[polar osprey]

• Ulvs and bad guys

Wish I could could speed to Mistwalker. I'm still taking my time in the plains right now.

[gray sand]

spawn mistwalker

[tacit crystal]

It's the placeholder flametal before Ashlands update which was changed to ancient ore/metal and is also obsolete.

[wicked quarry]

Thanks. Are you aware of the code for the Ashlands flametal by any chance/

[tacit crystal]

Blobicycake stated it earlier, the proper flametal ID is flametalnew.

#valheim-chat message

[wicked quarry]

oh ok thanks. I thought I used that and it popped out a red looking ore but maybe Im misremembering. thanks

[tacit crystal]

Yeah, the old ID flametal spawns ancient metal.

[copper bramble]

will ancient metal have a use in the deep north?

[rotund parrot]

Not a chance, it's something you can no longer obtain

[brisk walrus]

what do you mean "no longer obtain" ?

[rotund parrot]

Because it no longer exist

[brisk walrus]

what ?

[rotund parrot]

The old flametal that you mined before the actual ashland

[brisk walrus]

ah nvm. I confused with flametal

[tacit crystal]

The pre update flametal you could mine from the meteors on ground around old Ashlands. The metal you mined from those are now called ancient ore/metal, having item ID flametal while the actual item ID for the actual flametal added in Ashlands update is flametalnew.

[nocturne wolf]

Ancient metal only exist because developers didn't want people who gathered flametal early to skip some progression of finished ashlands

[tacit crystal]

Rightfully so. It was funny to read those posts of those who mined lots of old flametal, only to find out it had no use after the update.

[glossy heath]

better than deleting it, at least it's a neat collector's item now

[tacit crystal]

Only if ores and bars could be put on item stands.

[stuck lake]

whats in the deep north rn

as placeholders

[nocturne wolf]

There's a fish which isn't a placeholder and some ice platforms that may or may not be used in the finished biome

[stuck lake]

thats all?

are there any mobs

[nocturne wolf]

No

[stuck lake]

aw

[rugged bridge]

Hopefully they deliver with the update

Ashlands gave the vibe that it was a completely different game

[west mica]

One of my pet theories is that those giants in the concept art are like the charred forts of the deep north.
There are a set number and you get precious loot by beating them.

[heady parcel]

I have a good feeling about Deep North. The teasers give the impression that they're really making it pretty but menacing, in a more creepy way than Ashlands.

[rugged bridge]

I have yet to see something menacing about it

Not counting the plushie looking seals the only other mob we've been remotely introduced to was whatever that gremlin looking small thing is in the dungeon lol

[heady parcel]

Well, that's about perspective. I find that kind of empty, serene winter landscape pretty creepy tbh. You just know there's going to be something nasty stalking you

[rugged bridge]

Serene winter landscape sounds like my holiday location

[wary tundra]

Should I play on my old valheim world that I started after ashlands or wait for deep north? Will my world update correctly for deep north?

[west mica]

Ashlands looks like a lovely warm vacation in the sun

[rugged bridge]

Pretty much is now, the beta client was better

Shoreline is too calm

[west mica]

Oh no now you can actually get stuff done apart from fighting

[rugged bridge]

If you haven't explored the deep north in your old world, you can play it there and it'll generate as the updated version

[rugged bridge]

Yeah it's a real shame

[gray sand]

War biome should be about war.

Like imagine if the Mistlands didn't have Mist...

[rugged bridge]

Lands, my favorite biome

[gray sand]

-# Which people keep asking for somehow...

[jovial sleet]

How do I Make the ground in the mountain biome look the same as the surrounding after leveling it with a pickaxe and flattening it with the hoe or whatever?

It's a darker tone of white

[heady parcel]

Cultivator - sow grass

It's grass in snowless biomes, in mountains it is snow 🙂

Also makes steep walls you have dug look a lot better

[jovial sleet]

Ty

[random flint]

Bears are op and I don’t think they’re fun to fight. Change my mind.

[jovial sleet]

Can enemies see you through crystal walls?
And I want to make a moat around my mountain home, is there a way to make a kind of drawbridge or should I just have one entrance through it?

[naive pilot]

are there any big active servers?

[eager bough]

Maybe be another year for deep north?

[merry pebble]

Max size of a server is 10 people, so not really 😄

[merry pebble]

We dont know 🙂 hopefully sooner tho, but i think that at the very least few months for sure.

[heady parcel]

yeah, keep in mind that not only is there a new biome coming with that update, but it is also the game's official 1.0 release, so expect a longer than usual period of testing, balancing and polish once it hits public testing. Me, I have things to do so there's no rush for my sake 😄

[tacit crystal]

Don't use pierce or blunt weapons, rather use slash weapons. Parrying their weaker attacks is possible even with wooden shield, which are the one paw swings. Also, they avoid fire, so build a campfire or hold torch if situation is dire.

[random flint]

Wish I could get some copper to make one but every time I go into the Black Forest I get killed by a bear.

[nocturne wolf]

Flint axe works well

[random flint]

Does it?

I figured since it’s a basic flint tool it wouldn’t do anything.

[nocturne wolf]

A black forest enemy wouldn’t be balanced around black forest equipment, or how would you fight it the first time you find one?

[quiet robin]

hop up on a big rock. fill him with fire arrows. he can't get you at the top of the rock (you know, the big boulders?) ... just don't fall off the rock. use fire arrows. easy peasy.

[random flint]

Didn’t do much.

I ran out of arrows.

Knocked him down to 60% ish.

[nocturne wolf]

Hold a torch in your left hand and a flint axe in your right, the torch will make it less aggressive

[quiet robin]

alwasy head out with a full stack. (they work on trolls too)

[nocturne wolf]

Bears resist pierce so a bow isn’t a good choice

Even with fire arrows you’re dealing a lot of pierce damage

[quiet robin]

fire arrows. burn'im!

[random flint]

Idk why a bear would be pierce resistant.

That doesn’t make sense. Blunt I could understand.

[quiet robin]

resist pierce but not slash. huh? I know.

[nocturne wolf]

Black forest already has trolls, high-health enemies that pierce is effective against

Bows would be too strong if they could deal with both well

[heady parcel]

My theory - the reason is purely gamey - to make kiting it around and peppering it with wooden arrows a less ideal strategy. Works fine with trolls, would be boring if it worked the same with bears.

[random flint]

The second to last bear ate my soul and my raft. 1 star bear came out of nowhere and chased my raft down in open sea. They swim wayyy too fast.

[tacit crystal]

Bears are perfect targets to practice dodge/parry timings.

[quiet robin]

um 1 stars bear/troll I just runaway until later. (frostner now... c'mon over here ..... THUMP - SIZZLE) 😄

[heady parcel]

Aye bears are the primary reason I won't go into the forest at night now until a good ways into the bronze age. In caveman stuff, no way!

[copper bramble]

bears are super easy to cheese

if you hold a torch they won't attack you bc they are scared of fire

[random flint]

They’re just Yao Guai from fallout 3. Fast as F*** and hit like a truck.

[tiny mortar]

Fyi frostner isnt very good against bears ‼️ from experience

But great against everything else

[copper bramble]

bears are resistant to a lot of things

[random flint]

They’re apparently resistant to the power of friendship. (One killed my friend when we were exploring.)

[nocturne wolf]

They avoid fire, scared of fire is a different behaviour that makes creatures aggro instantly near fire.

[heady parcel]

Oooh. Don't know if I am grateful or disappointed - but apparently the fire attacks of gjall does not cause fires on flammable materials with fire hazards on.

[stark spoke]

I neee help

I cant get cultist trophy after like 10 caves

[merry pebble]

Go pray to RNGeezus 😄

[grizzled garnet]

how come no one talks about how the fire arrows look like they were drawn in ms paint

[tribal trench]

Just found a 2 Star Troll and man they hit hard. Just testing my skill with my skeletons and all 4 of them perished in quick order lol.

[brisk walrus]

never found any in hundred of hours

[merry pebble]

Unless they spawn in or in front of a cave they can start having stars only further than 2000m from centre of the world 🙂
So they are quite rare indeed

[random flint]

Can anyone help me recover my stuff?

[fossil delta]

Yeah, even with my 5,000 hours I have seen some where between 5 to 10 of them. I explore a lot too.

I've seen a lot of 1 star trolls, though.

[random flint]

Because I lost it in a troll cave with no real way to recover.

[merry pebble]

Just wait a minute or two and run in for it and then out 🙂 you should be able to dodge him once or twice while running for your grave

[icy apex]

which mead is better for fighting in the ashlands? the lingering one or the 125 hp one

as a mace melee fighter

[fossil delta]

If you died close to the opening they are probably back in the back of the cave. If you died in the back of the cave, that sucks.

[merry pebble]

I never really used the lingering one 🤔

[wintry valve]

I use lingering stamina and major healing

[icy apex]

alright

[fossil delta]

I use lingering in Mistlands. Haven't felt a need for it in Ashlands.

[icy apex]

im also not a big fan of instant stamina

lingering is so good for stamina

[wintry valve]

im not convinced the lingering stamina meads really help

[merry pebble]

I use major ones, in the rare times i use meads, because i use meads as the last "oh crap" option basically 😄

[fossil delta]

It is helpful in Mistlands. Just not sure about it in Ashlands.

[wintry valve]

you use major stamina meads?

[merry pebble]

Yep, not the lingering one.

[wintry valve]

I thought we couldnt make any yet

[merry pebble]

Oh, read it wrong, hp mead

We indeed cant make major stamina yet

[fossil delta]

Oh, I do recall one time I was glad I had lingering stamina mead in the Ashlands. I was running for my life, at night. Pretty sure I would not have made it without that mead.

[gray sand]

Major stam will still be worse than Tasty 😉

[merry pebble]

But you dont have to think about it 😄

[gray sand]

Lingering will still block it instead of stacking with it. And it will still have a cooldown. Nothing to think about 😁

[merry pebble]

Hmm? Do you mean lingering stam will block tasty? I doesent.

[gray sand]

No?

I mean it will block Major Stamina.

[merry pebble]

Hmm, it shouldnt, its not the same type of mead, will go test real quick

[nocturne wolf]

Major stamina mead and tasty mead at the same time

[gray sand]

Because I said "Major Stam worse than Tasty"
And you replied "But you don't have to think about it." <- meaning the benefit of normal stamina pots over Tasty is they require no thought.
To which I replied:

[wintry valve]

major stam and lingering stam is same type

[gray sand]

Lingering blocks all non-Tasty stamina pots.

[merry pebble]

But we are talking about tasty and lingering stam 🙂

[gray sand]

No, we are not. 😂

[wintry valve]

yall are drunk on mead

[gray sand]

We are talking about Major Stam and Lingering.

[merry pebble]

Ah, then i was talking about tasty and lingering since i thought we were talking about tasty from this message 😄 #valheim-chat message

[gray sand]

That was me initiating about a potential new Major Stamina (as the primary topic) by contrasting it with Tasty.

[wintry valve]

yall should use anti sting mead in ashlands

[merry pebble]

Yeah, and i thought we were talking about atsty since than since you brought it up being better than the stam 🙂

[gray sand]

Because it is 😉😁

💛

[merry pebble]

Best to use both tho 😄

[gray sand]

NEVARRR

[wintry valve]

i like my health regen

[gray sand]

They have meads for that.

Which Tasty miraculously doesn't block.

[merry pebble]

Lucky for you, none of those we were talking about block hp meads xD

[gray sand]

BuT tHeRe ArEn'T eNoUgH iNvEnToRy sLoTs.

😏

[merry pebble]

Heh, tell taht to someone carrying hecking cultivator everywhere, there is ALWAYS enough slots 😄

[gray sand]

OH BUT IMAGINE:
If they had like a double-pint mug that let you load with with 2 meads. Allowing you to drink 2 things in one swig 👀

[nocturne wolf]

Two tasty meads for negative health regeneration

[wintry valve]

If I understand how the maths work, youd quart your health regen with two tasty meads

[fossil delta]

For 10 whole seconds...

[gray sand]

Oh no... 2 damage every 2+ seconds.
How ever would I live..

[steel mica]

valheim

[ember egret]

Yes valheim

[gray sand]

No Valheim.

[lone rampart]

Maybe Valheim

[steel mica]

Considering Valheim

[wild raptor]

Perhaps Valheim

[lunar sapphire]

When Valheim?

[lone rampart]

I'll do you one better! Why Valheim?

[ember egret]

How Valheim?

[lunar sapphire]

Valheim is a brutal exploration and survival game for 1-10 players, set in a procedurally-generated purgatory inspired by viking culture. Battle, build, and conquer your way to a saga worthy of Odin’s patronage!

[ebon oyster]

I am not a fan of yagluth

[shy marlin]

whys that

[untold sinew]

Funny moment:
Me and my friend were killing yagluth and we used 6 lox to help distract him and right when he dieded he did his moteor attack so we were killed by him after he died

[ebon oyster]

Hug his ass and spin in a circle hitting him with frostner for 18 minutes is not a good boss fight

The later bosses just hit so hard that it is unreal

[shy marlin]

yea i mean that's just kinda valheim bosses for ya tbh

can't argue with that analysis 😂

[ebon oyster]

This time his ai was hyper aggressive and he was doing nonstop attacks lol. Last time it felt like I could get in and he paused between attacks.

[shy marlin]

I will say tho you can manipulate yagluths attack such that you can get good 15-20 sec burn phases in but yea

[ebon oyster]

Only way I know to defeat him is hug his ass and spin him so he can't attack

But that worked as usual lol. I wanna try new stuff but I play pretty much the same way every time

[shy marlin]

yea the non cheese version basically involves, half circle run while doing meteors into being on the opposite hand that does the aoe denial bs and then you can get good dmg in

I can consistently get 2-4 min yagluth kills without the cheese version but yea

[fossil delta]

I just stand there with my tower shield and beat the crap out of him. Last fight was about 2 minutes.

[ebon oyster]

Interesting

I need to watch a video to see how that is done

[fossil delta]

I have the fire mead going, etc...

[shy marlin]

yea the only note with the tank strategy is that you still have to dodge his initial aoe hit

if you don't that fire dmg will rapidly increase if you sit in aoe and ur done for even with fire res

[fossil delta]

I also burned a stamina mead so I could keep hitting him instead of wait to recover. I think I used the silver sword last time. Maybe Frostner,

[gray sand]

The "only way" you know is the cheese strat?

[ebon oyster]

Only way I have ever done it

[gray sand]

I mean... you could try doing a "no cheese" run and see if it makes you feel differently 🤷‍♂️

[ebon oyster]

I could die and have to come back too lol

[fossil delta]

I've done plenty of cheesing over the years against the bosses. In the military, we call it staying alive. Nothing wrong with that.

[untold sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/dance-gillian-anderson-staying-alive-sing-gif-15149321

[ebon oyster]

I recently did figh bonemass legit but I had frostner already

[untold sinew]

THAT IS NOT LEGIT

[fossil delta]

Frostner, or the silver sword, do make him considerably easier.

[ebon oyster]

Super legit. The stag breaker is great lol

[untold sinew]

Frostner is montain weapon

But

No

Its not fair

[nova burrow]

I fought him with a level 3 club. Is that fair?

[ebon oyster]

Chad

[untold sinew]

NOOOOO

IRON MACE IS THE REAL WAY

[nova burrow]

You're right. It wasn't. He couldn't even hit me.

[ebon oyster]

Let me guess, you "eat food" before facing enemies?

[untold sinew]

Wth

[ebon oyster]

🤔

[fossil delta]

If you take the legit risk of going into the mountains to get enough silver to make those weapons... I just think its less riskier just beating the crap out of him with iron weapons.

[untold sinew]

What the hell*

[untold sinew]

See

Finaly someone that listens to me

[nova burrow]

I just do it with a level 3 wooden club.

[untold sinew]

But

Why

[shy marlin]

i just do it with my bare fists

[nova burrow]

like jason statham

[nova burrow]

So I don't have to farm nearly as much iron.

[untold sinew]

Why aren't there any NORMAL PEOPLE THAT PLAY THIS GAME

[fossil delta]

Dude, I have 5,000 hours on Valheim, I've done everything. Including going into mountains and getting silver gear early. I don't even use hammers to find silver, I'm just good at guessing where it is.

[untold sinew]

&#(#;&'

🤬

[nova burrow]

Because it's been out for 4 years and the game is trivially easy.

[untold sinew]

Its still in early access tho

[obsidian raven]

It isn't that challenging to just dig in the depressions/flat areas to find some.

[ebon oyster]

It blows my mind how some people play this game. Ive seen some no death no hit runs, or like a guy getting into ashlands and fighting the bosses in reverse order and some crazy stuff. Meanwhile im getting killed by wraiths before putting down my portal lol.

[shy marlin]

sounds familiar 😏

[fossil delta]

Yeah, for over 4 years. So I have 5,000 hours playing it. Its all pretty easy to me now.

[untold sinew]

Pretty accurate me representatiom

[fossil delta]

I died with the best of them when I started. Practice makes perfect. Even an old guy like me.

[untold sinew]

https://tenor.com/view/look-away-simpson-bashful-embarrassed-marge-gif-1191583262637258997

I have 200

[fossil delta]

The main reason I have so many hours is my wife plays too. So we share about 2,000 hours.

[ebon oyster]

Or I get blasted by 5 tar blob machine gun mfs hot dropping me while the world is saving

[untold sinew]

Fist off 2 star is max second of all blobs cant have stars

[fossil delta]

5 TAR blobs, not starred.

[ebon oyster]

Not 5 star, 5 of the tar blobs

[untold sinew]

Growths?

[ebon oyster]

All blasting me simultaneously

[fossil delta]

That would kill anyone. Except maybe me, depends on my tower shield and if I got the poison resist going.

[untold sinew]

Stop flexing

[fossil delta]

Not flexing, just saying how I might survive it. Maybe. I'd have to test.

[untold sinew]

Yea fair enough

[fossil delta]

I know I can deal with 3. Not letting them all hit me at the same time, though. Even with blocking. I'm not sure just how much my Tower Shields can block of that attack.

The black metal one probably can. That thing is good into the Ashlands.

[untold sinew]

Yea

[lofty sky]

My kid got me on this game…. Now I’m hooked 🤦‍♂️

[lone rampart]

One of us! One of us!

[fossil delta]

There are worse addictions to have.

[lofty sky]

I don’t build as fast as my kid ( he is 25 ) lol but it’s been fun so far

[lone rampart]

There's no time limit on it. So long as you're enjoying yourself!

[lofty sky]

That’s what I like about it.

[fossil delta]

It all just takes practice. Play enough and you will get as good as anyone at it.

[lone rampart]

I build slow because my attention span goes sprinting off in random directions 😅 "I'm gonna build a house!" "no I'm gonna explore the Mistlands!" "No I need to plant more turnips!"

[lofty sky]

Beat first boss last night. Now just exploring Black Forest .

Haha that sounds like me! Oh wait let’s fight this troll now hahah

[lone rampart]

On to glorious battle! raises a tankard

[fossil delta]

The bear armor is pretty good. I got it this time around because I only saw 4 trolls by the time I had the bear set to lvl 3.

I have to say I like it better, over all.

[lofty sky]

I’ve killed 2 trolls and just got my first black bear lmao

I’m obviously still figuring out the crafting so I hord everything

[fossil delta]

I usually do troll set, but like I said, they have been rare this play through.

[lone rampart]

Oh, naturally. Can't get rid of it! Might be useful!

I have a spare cart parked next to the blacksmithy with all the "extra" black metal I'm never going to use

[tribal trench]

That is Awesome!

[lofty sky]

Now I gotta build a new base closer to the BLK forest though camp is far and my guy is maxed weight

Hope I can make the swim hahaha

[lone rampart]

At least you can't sink when swimming overloaded 😅

[fossil delta]

Well, we won't know what is useful when until they actually finish this game. Like I never expected bones to be so needed in Ashlands.

[lofty sky]

Ok good to know I wasn’t sure if that was a thing

Haven’t been to ashlands yet. I just started last night

[lone rampart]

Well it sounds like you're enjoying it so far! Always fun to see the game through fresh eyes!

[tribal trench]

Take your time and have fun with it. No need to rush for sure

[fossil delta]

Ashlands is a ways off. Take your time, do not rush. You only get to play this for your first time once. Enjoy it.

[lofty sky]

I use to play 7 days to die but it got boring.

[fossil delta]

I own it, but have never played it. Too far down on my list of games I still need to play.

[tribal trench]

I'm still trying to beat Volgarr the Viking II

[lofty sky]

It was fun for a while like most games are

Found my first copper deposit . Now I’m maxed and waddling 🤣

[tribal trench]

lol

[fossil delta]

I've been a Humble Bundle Monthly subscriber for years. So have more games to play than I likely will ever get around to actually playing. I'm fine with spending so much time on Valheim because my wife enjoys playing it too.

[lofty sky]

I asked my wife to play lol. She prefers geeking on Minecraft

[lone rampart]

Oh but Valheim is so much better than MC (I say, having never played the latter)

[fossil delta]

Get her to watch. Typically my wife never plays anything, but she got interested in Valheim. Now we have over 2000 hours on it, together. Maybe you will have similar luck.

[lone rampart]

Could also share some of the build videos on YouTube to whet her appetite

[fossil delta]

Valheim will never match Minecraft for building, but maybe it will be good enough.

[lofty sky]

She is watching me play right now while she geek on her phone lol

She use to play 7 days with me and got hooked

Maybe I’ll get lucky and she will join me in this.. who knows

[fluid cove]

anyone else just feels never satisfied with what they've built, tear down everything and build another one?

i've done it to my plains castle a total of 4 times now

[gray sand]

You mean... being human?

[fluid cove]

[fossil delta]

Only time I tear down and rebuild is when I am upgrading from wood to stone, etc... Even then I usually leave my floors and chests in place.

[obsidian raven]

I make satellite bases all over

And then one major "shipyard" base.

[lofty sky]

In the process of making my 3rd base lmao

[fossil delta]

I make a fair number of satellite bases. At least one in the plains, primarily for farming. Then I often make a half dozen or so in Mistlands, then at least one more in Ashlands.

I just have one main base which I pretty much bring everything back to.

[steel mica]

Just make one megabase boarding a plains and mistlands biome

[fossil delta]

If I ever find such a location soon enough. I don't know if I'll make it my mega base. I hate having to move all the crap I accumulate. 😄

[steel mica]

Im so lucky to have found a very open space with 4 roots nearby

though 3 of them are quite a walk but worth it

[lofty sky]

2am and still geeking out lmao. Time to go chop more wood

[steel mica]

Make a tree farm instead

[lofty sky]

I started saving the seeds! How do I plant them lol

[steel mica]

Make a flat area

place 4 2x2 tiles

and repeat

or better just use the hoe and make a square shape area for planting

[near furnace]

make the cultivator, make soil, plant 🙂

[shut harbor]

Guys, I just wanted to put a note out there. If you are new to valheim, we are currently at the start of the swamp. Come join us, 3 players currently. Its also in Lf. Have a lovely day everyone.

[proper roost]

hi gamers

can you used controller for valheim

buying valheim enjoy the game 🙂

[merry pebble]

Yes you can use a controler 😄

[glossy light]

is someone new ? i need a partner to play with if someone intressted

[merry pebble]

Be sure to look in #1024264966712340510 😄 plenty of folks looking to play with others there

[severe sail]

hii

[dapper abyss]

Had to sail to another island to find a swamp with crypts… sailed past it and had to turn around and paddle my way most of the way back 😂😬

[lone rampart]

lol oops

[dapper abyss]

I cheated and used to online map generator to find them, there were none on my starting island

[lone rampart]

That's not cheating, that's using the tools available to you 😉

[dapper abyss]

😂 word that sounds good to me

[lone rampart]

I'm a government worker; I can find a loophole! 🤣

...well except in how to get paid. 😭

[velvet sleet]

What's the point of the staff of fracturing? I cant find what it's better at than the staff of embers

[tame perch]

dundr 😏

the magic shotgun

[nocturne wolf]

It has a higher damage increase per upgrade than other weapons, at level 3 it deals very high fire damage

[rain flare]

It’s very good at doing fire damage - staff of embers does blunt damage

Just focus on spamming as many closer range attacks as possible - each of the lava bits you fire off adds damage onto your target, and fire damage stacks infinitely

[velvet sleet]

But sof has 1:1 fire and blunt damage types too

[rain flare]

Each stack has a timer of course, but I’ve spammed enough that you get like 600-900 fire damage per second on a mob

[velvet sleet]

120/120 - embers and and 12/12 - fracturing

[gray sand]

Fracture also used to have a different projectile iirc.

[tacit crystal]

When you hit bigger targets with all clusters also hitting the same target it ramps up the fire damage tremendously, which will be much more than with Ember staff.
Ember staff has higher blunt and AoE, which is suited better for groups, Fracturing staff is better for single target damage.

[gray sand]

The tooltip no longer makes sense with the whole "skill" thing given how it shoots now.

But, could be wrong, iirc it used to shoot like Roadhog's secondary where it was a single projectile for a certain distance that then split into a shotgun spray.

So the trick was to know that distance and vs. single targets you'd what it to explode just before them so they got hit with all of the shards. Vs. multiple opponents you'd want to make it to the spread was as wide as possible.

[velvet sleet]

It was right after the patch released at ptb as I remember

[gray sand]

Skill weapon took skill and that isn't allowed so nerf 🙁

[west pulsar]

Chat what's the best setup for pure damage gear wise you think?

[gray sand]

There is no one setup.

[west pulsar]

Yea i get that but is it worth carrying around more than 3 weapons?

[shy marlin]

wrong

it's mage

[gray sand]

Worth is subjective to the individual.

[gray sand]

Yes because there is only 1 magic staff in the entire game... making there only "one setup" of mage in the entire game that is unquestionably "best"...

OH WAIT......

[west pulsar]

😭 then give me your opinion instead of non answers

[gray sand]

My opinion is you should learn to make up your own mind about things, because that is the best when compared to just following what you are told by random strangers on the internet.

[shy marlin]

what

[west pulsar]

...i asked

Because i wanted a second opinion

[gray sand]

You said I was wrong.
I am not.

[west pulsar]

Dude

[shy marlin]

mage statistically has the best damage per second

trust me i know what i'm talking about

[west pulsar]

Okay elaborate

[gray sand]

But there is no "one setup."
And you know that.

[shy marlin]

lmao do i need to pull up the resume

[shy marlin]

there is a one setup if your goal is to output the most damage possible

[west pulsar]

I was asking whats the best pure damage and there's gotta be math on it

So i asked

What are these non answers

Like just give me the numbers or your opinion

[shy marlin]

Mage armor + all of the staffs (use the staff that best fits the scenario), and the ashlands mage trinket and you have the best damage in the game

[west pulsar]

Is it just me or do the trinkets feel useless

[gray sand]

(use the staff that best fits the scenario)

Oh my Odin.. proving my point that there is no "one setup" 😄

It is just you.

[shy marlin]

well it really boils down to 3 staffs, so there's 3 staff that best fit the one set up

[gray sand]

Bronze trinket is literally free Lingering Stamina.

[shy marlin]

Valheim is having a set up of tools that allows you to do the most damage

[gray sand]

So there are 3 setups 😉

[shy marlin]

So yes, it's one set up

[west pulsar]

No?

[gray sand]

Yes.

[shy marlin]

you have zero clue what you're talking about sev

[gray sand]

False.

[west pulsar]

I have 6 weapons rn that doesn't mean its 6 setups

Its one setup

[shy marlin]

there's no one else in the game that has anywhere close to the level of understanding of builds and combat as I do

[west pulsar]

Anyway scales

[shy marlin]

So yes, you're wrong sev

[west pulsar]

Go on im mostly asking you

[gray sand]

I am not, but you do you.

[native dirge]

A bold claim

[west pulsar]

Im not asking you sev

[shy marlin]

it's true

[west pulsar]

Scales

Explain it to me more

[gray sand]

3 weapons = 3 setups.

If you could dual-wield magic staves we'd have a discussion point, but alas.

[shy marlin]

i'm off to college soon, i'll dm you if that's cool sometime later today

[west pulsar]

Sounds good

[shy marlin]

that's just inherently not true to valheims system

[gray sand]

Sure.....

[shy marlin]

a build is an arsenal of weapons and armor

[gray sand]

No, that is a loadout.

[shy marlin]

that's true for valheim, mmos, etc

[west pulsar]

So if i switch to an axe to chop a tree that's a different gear set up? A set up is a combination you can't combine one slot and call it a setup

[gray sand]

So if i switch to an axe to chop a tree that's a different gear set up?

Yes.

[native dirge]

Axe can be used as a weapon tbf

[west pulsar]

No

[gray sand]

Yes.

[west pulsar]

A set up is setting up on inventory of gear

That's being set up

You're being pedantically wrong

[gray sand]

That is a loadout.

And I am not wrong.

[west pulsar]

That's the same thing

[gray sand]

No.

[native dirge]

What's the different between a loadout and a setup really though?

[west pulsar]

There isnt one

[gray sand]

Equipped vs. Held.

Setup = what you are using in the current moment.
Loadout = available options to switch to.

[shy marlin]

There is none

[west pulsar]

A set up is anything in your hot bar

Anything in your backpack is equipment

I can have 8 things SET UP and ready at a moments notice

[native dirge]

Yeah, backpack is just extra inventory imo

[west pulsar]

So i can in theory have 8 weapons SET UP

[native dirge]

It's not practical to switch weapons if they're in your bag

[west pulsar]

Right

[rugged bridge]

It's the lategame trinkets that feel useless because they activate once in a blue moon

[west pulsar]

The the early ones dont do anything

[rugged bridge]

The rest of the time it's just an inventory slot I'll never get back

[native dirge]

But if they're in your hotbar, they're basically held, no?

[shy marlin]

This is just pedantic nonsense

[gray sand]

No. You can hold only 1 weapon at a time.

[west pulsar]

I just run crystal heart because its the only one that feels like its worth its activation cost

[gray sand]

😏

[native dirge]

That is also true

[rugged bridge]

A bit of extra stamina/health regen or a quick burst of health and armor can come in handy from time to time, point is those activate regularly

[west pulsar]

Potions

Literally useless because potions exist

[rugged bridge]

Potions have a cooldown

[gray sand]

Bronze trinket is one of the best in the game...

[west pulsar]

Shield staff

[west pulsar]

Which ones that again

[rugged bridge]

That's for one particular gameplay style or when you're in a group lol

[gray sand]

Stamina regen.

[merry pebble]

The regen potions stack with trinkets 😉

[west pulsar]

I solod the entire game im only now playing with people with a massively over leveled character

[west pulsar]

And i dont find it worth it

Doesn't feel strong enough

[gray sand]

Reinforcing that worth is subjective to the individual.

[rugged bridge]

Trinkets in general are fine (apart from the inventory slot issue), just the later ones need to be tweaked to actually trigger enough to make them worth it

[west pulsar]

The later ones trigger once every 100 years and they dont do that much feels like i may as well just take the extra slot for a staff

[native dirge]

Personally, I like items with consistent passive buffs over consumables with cooldowns

So trinkets sound pretty neat to me

[west pulsar]

THE STAM REGEN ONE?

[rugged bridge]

Would be useful if they did trigger, but 100 adrenaline is just too much

[west pulsar]

Hell nahhhhhhhhhh

That ones basically wasting a slot

100 is cancer

[gray sand]

100 what?

[west pulsar]

I usually run blood magic and weapons but idk if that's actually good

[west pulsar]

100 for late game adrenaline 25% stam regen is basically useless in a pinch

[gray sand]

Bronze pendant gives 25% regen and costs 50 adrenaline.

[native dirge]

I thought you'd solod the game though? Sounds like it'd be good to me

[rugged bridge]

Personally I'd be fine with 100 if the weapons themselves gave more depending on which biome they're from, but since I gain the same adrenaline hitting with a carved wooden stick and an eitr infused cleaver, may as well give up at that point

[west pulsar]

I did ashlands i had to power level my skills because it was aids

I'll be honest ashlands balancing feels so bad

[gray sand]

25% regen lasting for a full minute costing only 50 adrenaline means you basically have 100% uptime on it.
That is the only "100" number involved in the trinket.

[native dirge]

Never been there, sounds tricky though tbf

[gray sand]

Brimstone is the only trinket that costs 100.
And I will agree it sucks.

[rugged bridge]

I finally got to it yesterday for the second time, I can see the difference between the beta client version and this one