valheim-chat

[crude saddle]

And my boat wasn't at any of the docks I checked

[neon steppe]

must be good feeling

iron iron iroon

[crude saddle]

Aye, I'm about to build a warehouse because my new manor doesn't really have any storage

[cedar stump]

ah fair I was curious since u said u had a fair amount 😛

all my old games were on dedicated server so all I had was my inventory 🙁 and yesterday I was tilted because I kept dieing like a noob to try and get my last trophies for plains boss.

[crude saddle]

Now comes the extremely painful process of transporting it home

[pliant hatch]

Right. That's enough for one-and-a-half-Valheim day.

[crude saddle]

Wait I'm a genius, instead of bring the iron to the forge from the port, why don't I bring the forge to the port

Does kinda mean the tunnel I spent 4 hours digging is redundant, but oh well

[cedar stump]

would have to move forge+forge upgrades, kiln and charcoal stuff ye, cant move the smelted bar as well

[crude saddle]

Well I had only built a very small forge at my new home, the reason I went to the swamp in the first place was to get surtling cores so that I could actually smelt things at a decent rate and have enough charcoal to fuel them, so it's no big deal to move the tiny set up I have

[pliant hatch]

It can all be moved with a cart.

But that applies to both options.

[cedar stump]

im glad I play with a buddy makes all that easier

[rugged bridge]

I know right, nothing better than using your friend as an improved cart by dragging them with a harpoon

[cedar stump]

wait.... if we enable pvp is that a thing hahahaha

[crude saddle]

Yeah the issue is that despite my best efforts I can't make a perfectly smooth ramp through a hill

[rugged bridge]

Yep

Harpoon allows lots of utility and fun

[cedar stump]

hahahaha funny, prolly not as fast as us running with moder back and forth 😛

we dont really use the harpoon, not even for the sea serpent.

My buddy jumps on his head and I shoot the last arrow to kill the serpent so he loots most of it.

[rugged bridge]

Theoretically it could be the fastest transportation method if the stars aligned and you managed to launch your friend very precisely back to base using the harpoon catapulting method lol

[crude saddle]

It's been 155 in game days and I am yet to even find where to summon Moder because I have questionable priorities :p

[rugged bridge]

But other than that, a player with 4325283475238455kg on them shows nowhere near as much resistance as a cart with the same weight

[pliant hatch]

Easier solution:

Let your buddy stand on a cart with all the heavy stuff in the inventory up to the point he's overburdened.

The pull the cart yourself.
It will act as if it's empty, making moving lots of heavy stuff a lot easier.

[cedar stump]

oh cart gets affected by weight? never paid attention I mostly use it to farm a cart full of wood.

[crude saddle]

It most certainly does

[rugged bridge]

Like 4-5 stacks of copper ore and you won't be able to go up the slightest slope with it

[cedar stump]

we are at like 180days in our game about to slay plains boss, debating if I wanna upgrade before taking up this boss.

[gray sand]

Up to 700kg the cart doesn't care. Once you go over that you'll start to notice it "be heavier".

[cedar stump]

all the little things this game have never cease to amaze me 😄

[rugged bridge]

"The cart doesn't care". I had no idea it had feelings, now I can enjoy punishing it for flipping over a raspberry bush

[cedar stump]

if im fully upgraded silver(mountain armor) armor,black metal shield 2 and sword 2, you think im gonna have a really hard time on this Yagluth? Moder was really easy im kinda scared for this one

[rugged bridge]

He's a pretty easy boss with slow attacks

[gray sand]

Hard time on Yag only happens if you don't bring fire resist wine.

[rugged bridge]

Just bring fire res wine and it trivializes most of it

[cedar stump]

oh alright bringing fire res wine 😛 and loads of healing ones

[rugged bridge]

Should be even easier now with the CTA update letting you parry and dodge to your heart's desire

Abuse those dodge iframes cause why not

[cedar stump]

after this we are gonna focus on getting the full padded armor before I head to mistland.

[pliant hatch]

And a silver sword instead of the BM one.

[crude saddle]

looks at my fully upgraded silver armour and weapons without having fought Moder yet maybe I have over prepared slightly

[cedar stump]

I rather be super over prepared for this as I dont know shit about mistland.

[cedar stump]

I only upgraded my silver armor/weapon after him 😛 I usually upgrade after killing the boss

[cedar stump]

unfortunately im super dumb and put mine in my obliterator sooooo yeah ill use my bm sword for now xd

[pliant hatch]

Ehm Moder is a "her".
Fader is the "him".

[cedar stump]

oops mb im sorry Mother! dont cry!

[crude saddle]

I wanted to build my new house in the plains because it's pretty, however that did mean I was rather vulnerable to having my insides turned into outsides

[cedar stump]

Fader... is that like ashland boss?

[gray sand]

Indeed.

[cedar stump]

ive been wanting to move the base somewhere else as we are close to spawn but meeeh idk

im sure mistland would be great if not for the mist and prolly the ennemies around

[crude saddle]

Also are the bears in Valheim okay? They seem like they need a visit to the vet

[quasi latch]

Unfortunately, euthanasia via sword seems to be the only viable treatment.

[rugged bridge]

Had a friend who liked to call the boss Daddy during the entire fight and I couldn't take it seriously, no wonder we ended up dying

The unfortunate consequence of having bosses use such names lol

[crude saddle]

The swamp boss exists as Nito to me, which is funny considering I've never even played dark souls

[pliant hatch]

Find yourself a plains island close to the Mistlands, or better, with a piece of Mistlands and you're good. For now anyway.

Because you can grow all crops that way.

[smoky quarry]

like here?#screenshots message

[wintry valve]

Can we harpoon items yet in this game?

[pliant hatch]

That may be an option, yes.

You don't need that much room in the Mistlands for the crops, as there's only two you can grow there anyway.
So if you're able to get an area of about 20 meters long and 10 meters wide of non-obstructed land in the Mistlands and use 8 meters wide as cultivated ground, you got more than enough room for the crops.

If you're even more lucky and get a root in, you've got an absolute golden spot.

[pliant hatch]

Other than the serpent and the boar?

I don't think so.

[wintry valve]

Id like to harpoon tree logs

[cedar stump]

oh completely forgot some crops only grow in certain biomes

[smoky quarry]

greydwarves are not allowed to have caps any longer

[cedar stump]

at first I thought it was only greydwarves with their weird pathing sometimes, that shit is so annoying. Like you hit them and they run around you to reach you or something while you run after em.

[neon steppe]

ugh i've died like 10 levels off today

i hate mountains 🥹

time to leave for plaains finally

[cedar stump]

that was me yesterday doesnt help I get tilted after a couple of death and almost stop fighting back x) wasnt a good day yday.

[gray sand]

Everything other than Mistlands shrooms grows in Plains.

So it's easy to have a "main base" in the Plains with a small farming outpost the Mistlands that you just portal to.

[cedar stump]

mistland are like much further than spawn too right? thats why ive been thinking more about it, prolly gonna be a long trip on boat for ore and stuff.

[gray sand]

Or do what I do and main base in the Mountain with both of the other biomes just being farming outposts 😏

[cedar stump]

havent spotted any so far while exploring first few biomes.

[gray sand]

It has a minimum radius of denial where it cannot generate near the spawn point iirc.

[cedar stump]

makes sense would be horrible to get rng'd by a seed with all those dangerous biomes surrounding ur spawn 😛

[mortal talon]

I used to joke that Moder and Fader were married, they definitely got divorced

[gray sand]

Losing a whole wing in a divorce means he had a bad attorney

[rugged bridge]

I swear to god I thought you were a stardew valley chatbox just now

I'm sure there's some connection between the two bosses though, one of the things I'm looking forward to with the coming updates is for valheim's lore to be fully fleshed out

[mortal talon]

I'm not on any English stardew servers so it definitely wasn't me hahaha

[rugged bridge]

At the same time I'm curious about some contradictions in the lore too, such as how female specimens of Drakes are "much larger" compared to their male counterparts, yet we have Fader being a big boy

[cedar stump]

damn its even the actual model of stardew well like the custom pfp stardew thingy 😛 that was my last big game, didnt get around to finish it tho.

[rugged bridge]

Looks like a reskin of one of the already existing sprites

[cedar stump]

ye theres like a website to customize ur own stardew character using assets and stuff from there

[mortal talon]

And the Fader seemed to rule a human kingdom unlike the Moder

[mortal talon]

That's exactly what I used to make my profile picture, if you want I can send you the link to the website I used.

[rugged bridge]

A cursed human king possibly

[mortal talon]

I really hope we get more lore pieces after 1.0 is released

[steel mica]

Didnt know this, the trinkets are actually visible

[mortal talon]

They are! But I was very sad when the armor covered them

[steel mica]

I noticed this when I was zooming in my character and seeing the bronze pendant

slowly fade

[cedar stump]

oh I already knew about it wanted to confirm it was from there 😛 it was time to change pfp too

how far are you guys in the game 🙂 ?

[gray sand]

Which time?

[cedar stump]

french brain not understand beep boop

[gray sand]

Meaning have beaten the game multiple times 😄
Current run is at swamp but it's a challenge run so it will take a bit longer.

[pliant hatch]

Which character?

I think I got two in early Mistlands, one in BF to fight the Elder (but on pause because my Co-op partner is gone-ish), one early Ashlands and one somewhere between all that.

[cedar stump]

why are you doing multiple runs at once?

[rugged bridge]

I'll put some hope into it although it's objectively a worse setting for lore development. Valheim isn't exactly a storytelling game off the bat, hence why I'm pretty content with how much effort was put into the lore, plus it's not blasted into your face every other time you interact with something

[pliant hatch]

Different approaches and challenges.

One of the current ones is for a YT series I'm screwing up in (sort of anyway), the other one is on Hard settings with fire hazards on.
The Ashlands one is from before the release of Ashlands, so wanted to try a new one, instead of using a "settled" one and so on.

I guess it's a habbit from my RPG days.

[mortal talon]

I'm kind of stuck in the mountains right now.

[pliant hatch]

I just left the mountains and went into the plains looking for the Beserker's trophy. Got the Fenring ones earlier and the Beserker just a couple of minutes before I was about to sign off.

It's off to Mistlands again and start looking for the trophies from there.
So far, Meadows, Black Forest, Swamp, Mountains and Plains trophies are collected, with the exception of the two Brothers. But those won't be missing for too long either.

[cedar stump]

oh you got a valheim yt channel? been my goto in bed to watch hardcore or challenge runs.

Still missing our last 2 totems for Yagluth altho we got the location of his stone now right next to one of our portal, just gotta clear some villages.

[pliant hatch]

I've got multiple games up at my channel. Valheim is just one of them.
But it's also one of the two games I'm recording for quit a while now.
Which may be the reason why it barely got any views. 102 episodes and I'm "just" in Mistlands. Took a bit too long building my base, I think. 😄

[cedar stump]

subbed to your channel ill watch some of that tonight in bed 😄

[pliant hatch]

Thanks. I hope you enjoy it.

And if you don't, let me know what bothered you. There's always room for improvement and learning for me.

[cosmic summit]

What happens if I dig under a glowing root in mistlands?

[pliant hatch]

You get a big hole in the soil. And with some luck the "sheltered" status when standing under the root.

[trail pelican]

also, the noise of digging will attract every hostile in a 50 mile radius, so expect to hear a droning sound like a low flying plane sooner or later

[pliant hatch]

Ehm, I got the *They sought you out" raid.

Isn't that the seeker one?

[trail pelican]

THINK so

[pliant hatch]

Interesting ......

My plains island base borders the Swamp. Curious how that plays out.

Or not, as the raid is already over

[cedar stump]

cant wait to be terrified by this noise, my friends warned me of that haha

think ill do a detour to mountains before Yagluth and get back my silver sword, only 160 silver..!

[pliant hatch]

Set the modifiers to maximum if you start mining the silver and you will get it quite fast. Turn them back to normal after it to prevent getting too much of some items and you'll be good.

[cedar stump]

gonna try and convince my buddy because I do feel bad, was like level 3 thats alot of silver there

[pliant hatch]

Silly question, || but shouldn't cleared out infested mines only have the Jelly being respawning? Not the monsters?
I just got killed by an attack of a 2⭐ tick, a 1⭐ cousin and a seeker in a mine I had cleared out ||

[cedar stump]

the tentation of mystery to click this box! 😛 but i wont haha

[merry pebble]

They have ||seekers, seeker soldiers and even ticks respawning alongside the jelly|| 😄
Its the only dungeon that does that

[cedar stump]

just realised I could just start a solo game with my character and spawn the sword with the console command right instead of going to farm it or would it fk something with my save/character

[pliant hatch]

I used it for you in particular as it's about a biome you're planning to enter soon.

[cosmic summit]

Does the root continue down under the ground past the dig limit?

[pliant hatch]

That explains. Got killed while I wasn't even 2 steps in. Couldn't dodge roll to deal with one monster, because the one that's looking for something was blocking that action, not using the new weapon class yet as I lack the crafting station, so it was a sort of quick death, considering the one I couldn't dodgeroll from was a 2⭐

[merry pebble]

Ooof, that is unlucky indeed

[pliant hatch]

Oh, and of course, no sledge or any similar weapon to use as AoE either.

In short, all the Sadistic Number Generator stuff was being very sadistic.

[pliant hatch]

Frankly speaking, I won't know. I've never dug a hole in the Mistlands.
But considering the copper and silver nodes occasionally do that, it's very likely roots do too.

[tacit crystal]

Not all of them tho, some are ||one time spawns|| and others are ||spawners that respawn some of the mobs every 240 minutes||.

[pliant hatch]

If it helps, the area I entered was under a former Dvergr Tower.

[merry pebble]

Ah, true, i thought ||the big guys also respawn after the 240 minutes|| 😄

[tacit crystal]

Some can, if there are many.

[merry pebble]

Hmm? Its not listed on the wiki then 🤔

[pliant hatch]

There is a line at the wiki page about that area saying "some enemies will respawn every 4 hours"

Last paragraph, right above the Strategy part.

[gray sand]

@nocturne wolf I have time to update the sheet with that split-damage thing we talked about last week, can you send me the details again (directly) please?

[merry pebble]

Yeah, i am looking at it but also on the pages of individual enemies 🙂 2 of the 3 have listed they respawn after the 4 hours but the ||big boys|| dont

[pliant hatch]

And that math sort of matches as I've spend some time in swamps and plains to look for Wraith, Fenring and Beserker trophies. And that's been more than 4 hours. Closer to 8 I think.

[tacit crystal]

This is taken from world gen website, displaying some random infested mine. It shows some of the enemies twice, which means there are one time spawns and spawners for them.

[plain cape]

do old infested mines respawn? I’ve revised a few times and nothing

[merry pebble]

Only ||few enemies and royal jelly piles ||

[pliant hatch]

Well, it does have one advantage: Since they were able to gang up on my, dropping Oozebombs at the entrance and running out helped. I managed to get the area I had cleared to be cleared again, working my way through the parts I hadn't cleared yet and found a Vegvisir.

[plain cape]

ah

[pliant hatch]

Well, lesson learned for me.

Clear them out, then don't come back until I'm able to bubblewrap myself. 😄

[pliant hatch]

Nope, it won't mess with your character.
And yes, it's an easier solution, less time consuming, but you will miss out on the pickaxe skill.

[steel mica]

early game enemies start to become a real nuisance

[pliant hatch]

Not if you decide to play the "How far can I knock back this Greyling"-game.

[steel mica]

They're no longer threating compared to before

they just drain your stamina for being a nuisance

and blocking you 😭

[terse bear]

hey everyone

[pliant hatch]

And when you play the baseball comment from Paradise by the Dashboardlight while doing that, it'll be even more fun.

[fossil delta]

Yeah, I knew they respawned at least seekers and stuff. Its how I keep in stock on the carapace for those arrows. 😄

[steel mica]

Seriously I was trying to keep this one troll alive the one with the log to cut trees for me

[terse bear]

looking for people to play with - I have a world and am up to the Inferno Lands - I love building and exploring

[steel mica]

but THESE DAMN GREYDRAWFS SHOWING UP AND EATING MY STAMINA 😭

[tacit crystal]

You can search or post in https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1024264966712340510 👍

[fossil delta]

#1024264966712340510

[pliant hatch]

How far above BF are you?

[steel mica]

oh im late swamp progression

with full iron gear decked out

[cedar stump]

The main issue is their goddamn pathing haha

[steel mica]

just prepping for bonemass

[cedar stump]

Same with fuling so annoying sometimes

[steel mica]

Their AI is a hit and run kinda of AI

[pliant radish]

Greydwarves are canonically and practically evil and should be exterminated

[cedar stump]

I think they are scared of fire tho hmmm just annoying when I wanna Woodcut in peace and they keep coming to annoy me

[pliant hatch]

Fulling are very annoying when they're in a group. Especially when you hadn't noticed the 2nd spear Fuling and wondering where all that health loss comes from.....

[steel mica]

Dont tell me more...

[heady parcel]

Killing greydwarves with falling trees is like the ultimate insult, I love it

[steel mica]

[steel mica]

please oh PLEASE YES

[cedar stump]

oh and in my case ofc its always a starred fuling I didnt see in the midst of em 😛

[pliant radish]

Greydwarves form from the forest and spirit of murderers

[pliant hatch]

Fire hazards on and then hitting the ground in front of them is much more fun.

I always want to yell: "Burn, you ba⭐ds" when that happens.

[fossil delta]

It sure takes a long time to level up the Arbalast on the practice target, but at the same time my hens are generating a LOT of eggs. So win/win, I guess. 😄

[pliant hatch]

The ultimate revenge is using Draugr fang on a Greydwarf Shaman and seeing it being killed by poison damage......

[heady parcel]

Heh, fire hazards bring along a lot of fun. I absolutely bloody LOVE raiding dvergr and fuling villages with fire arrows, makes me feel very viking

[steel mica]

Oh it does take a while to level up crossbows

[fossil delta]

I just want to get it into the 20's, like I do with all new weapon types, but it is taking forever. So I am getting a lot of stacks of eggs.

[pliant radish]

Food should spoil in a couple days

[fossil delta]

I just keep it in my Valheim refrigerated chests. Keeps it forever.

[pliant hatch]

<--- goes checking his refrigerator

It does. I just had to throw away a few tomatoes. 🙁

[cedar stump]

I would be losing so much food if it could spoil

[pliant radish]

Dang my rage bait got expertly deflected

[steel mica]

from my knowledge, food preservation back then used barrels yes?

kinda of like inclosing the food

or like a cellar'

[pliant hatch]

Yet, it would also add something to the game.

ASKA has it and it's nice to see that mechanic working.
It keeps a villager busy and the spoiled food is being used as fertilizer for the farm.

But for Valheim it should most likely mean a change of the game's engine. Which might postpone the 1.0 release a lot.

[fossil delta]

Yeah, they did things like pickling, fermentinng, and used "root cellars". So they had foods through the winters, etc...

[pliant hatch]

Pickling, drying and cellars with pieces of ice if that was nearby.

[fossil delta]

Also smoking of meats.

[pliant radish]

Wait why would spoiling food require changing the game engine

[fossil delta]

Not the engine, just coding.

[pliant radish]

Ah

I imagine it wouldn’t be that hard actually

So long as their code is modular

[steel mica]

Iron sword vs bomeass 🤔

[pliant radish]

Iron sword will work

Won’t be great though

[fossil delta]

I think the same thing about making all lands underwater actually be ocean zone, but they haven't done that either.

[pliant radish]

Wdym?

[pliant hatch]

It would depend at how deep you want to go with that whole path.

If it spoils, does it turn into something else? If so, does that something else being used? If so, for what? And if the "what" is set, what would be the change on that? And so on.

But what I meant was using the way ASKA does it compared to Valheim.
ASKA has active NPC's; which could actually mean a change of the engine.

[fossil delta]

Maybe engine version, but I am pretty sure Unity can handle doing all of that.

What engine do they use for ASKA?

[steel mica]

I swear to god im about to throw hands with these greydwarfs 🙂

[pliant hatch]

Not sure but I think it was unity.

[steel mica]

They are like ants pouring out of their mills

[fossil delta]

Yeah, so they may need to update to an even more recent version of the engine, but the engine can do it.

[steel mica]

Im still farming a bit more iron before going for bonemass

[fossil delta]

A spawner is behind that hill over there...

[steel mica]

extra doesnt hurt

[fossil delta]

Never hurts.

[steel mica]

especially the fact 2 of the next biome after mountains requires a ton of iron

plains for armour and some buildings

mistlands is literally majoirty of the weapons

krom check, mistwalker check, arbalest check

[fossil delta]

I get tons of iron, and copper, in the Mistlands. I just tear down a few bridges. Bars of iron galore! Most copper stays as scraps, though.

[steel mica]

Once you get to ashlands copper is just free

just head to your nearest BF and summon thy

[fossil delta]

Feels that way for sure.

[steel mica]

A TROLLRAID AS WE SPEAK

hold on gotta deal with these blue freaks

or actually just let them fight the whole swamp biome

Seeing a 2 star draugr elite two tap a troll is terrifying

[pliant hatch]

Seeing a Troll and an Abomination or Lox fight is a lot more interesting.

[lament badge]

Did they remove the ore being able to float and then blow up when you break everything around it

[steel mica]

A brawl I would watch til one dies lol

[fossil delta]

Nope, but copper can be a pain depending on where it is.

[eager bough]

Yeah if one piece is still touching ground no pop

[fossil delta]

At this rate, we may end up having all the omelletes we will need for Ashalnds.

[rugged bridge]

I prefer watching the trollstav summon fight other trolls

It's like watching a fight between an older and younger sibling

[pliant hatch]

A bloody 1⭐ Gjall firebombing my Puff and Caps field!

And some people call Greydwarfs annoying?

[dark coyote]

I always scout waterside copper, and pull up with the boat and portal mats

[eager bough]

That sucks! Then comes the ticks trying to be mini vampires!

[lament badge]

Yeah there was a piece that was connected some how like wtf

[fossil delta]

At least they are easy to agro away from your stuff. But its also why I keep a large inventory for replacements.

[lament badge]

Got it though

[eager bough]

I had found a dwarf tower and built beside it so they would kinda be a buffer or I could lead things to them to kill

[fossil delta]

Yeah, Thorin, let us know if starred gjalls drop starred ticks. I don't think they do, but its been over a year since I have even seen one.

[steel mica]

Health food feels so useless when your getting 1-2 tapped in very hard combat

[pliant hatch]

Well, I got the bugger (pun intended). Draugr Fang with Needle arrows help a lot. It even led me to one of those stone corpse thingies (still not sure if a pre-mistlands user is around, hence the description), so in a way I got lucky.

[terse bear]

unless you are with 260 hp and with flamental armor and lightning weapons + towershield

[fossil delta]

You mean the skull and ribs? Nice!

[steel mica]

Wont help ya in very hard combat either

Enemies hit very hard

[eager bough]

They make you feel like a zombie when all you really want is the brains! Soft tissue

[terse bear]

define very hard combat? what biome and how many enemies
?

[steel mica]

Enemies in general just hitting harder, having more hp, and even potentially one shotting you 💀

[merry pebble]

I believe they mean the world modifier 🙂

[pliant hatch]

Except finding that stuff at night with the higher spawns around is not fun. Especially when you can't get that damn dodge rolling working.

In other words, I died. Again.

[steel mica]

Atgeirs and Hammers that are normally a joke in normal difficulty are now fair game in very hard combat

[pliant hatch]

And worse, I didn't have my "Oh shit! I gotta run!" portal up yet.

[steel mica]

you cant stun lock some enemies now

[pliant hatch]

It's my only gripe with this game: blocking is just too inconveniently done.
Either go into crouch and use space or block and use space isn't always useful when you run around with a darn tick at your back and not having a sledge.

Would be a lot easier if you just had to tap a single key to get it working.

[merry pebble]

Hm? The block+space is incredibly fast, i dont use anything else to get ticks off of me really 🤔

[pliant hatch]

Not for a left handed user playing with right handed settings because remapping the keys is even making things more complicated.

I need to press [space] with my pinky finger........

[cedar stump]

im always so scared they chase me to my portal and break it down as I tp out lol got ptsd of my first swamp biome when we landed and abom broke the ship+portal

[merry pebble]

Ah, true, not left handed myself so didnt really consider it 🤔
But remapping shouldnt really cause many problems i think if you just use the same key positions just mirrored.

[steel mica]

Time to find a bigger swamp and probably get lost at sea again 🫠

[pliant hatch]

I would have to use the arrow keys, meaning you will have to reach further up to get the potions going.

I've tried it and found it even more troublesome as using the right handed settings.

[steel mica]

No map is quite a chore

due to memorizng landmass

[pliant hatch]

I think I'm going to do what the guys from VLDL did.

Not planning to play a stealth archer and ending up as a stealth archer until I'm able to get magic.

[merry pebble]

Well, i meant remaping the W, A, S and D to P, L, ; and ' (not sure if those last ones are the same on your keyboard, its the two keys left from Enter). That would give you same position for your right hand as i have for left regarding Shift, Ctrl and Space

[pliant hatch]

I'm using QWERTY, so most likely similar to yours.

It might work.
Perhaps I'll have a look at it in the weekend.

[merry pebble]

I have QWERTZ, but since my language has quite a few of these "ěůý" kinds of letters they might occupy the key that is something different for most of the world, i did try to use EN keyboard just in case tho so hopefully it will be the ones i said 😄

[pliant hatch]

Well, for now I'm going to be vewy, vewy caweful when seeing a Gjall or the petrified remains.

And meanwhile thinking back with joy about how easily I was able to dodge roll in Dawn of Defiance and Aska. 🙁

[proper sundial]

guys, was there a sneaky non-mentioned update to the dead raiser with the call to arms? I feel like what used to be 20% for a ranger is now way higher. between 30-50% no?

[merry pebble]

I dont believe there was 🤔 maybe you are just getting really lucky 🙂

[proper sundial]

possibly am, Im seeing so many more archers recently. I wish It was true tho. I would pref around 50/50 chance

[empty nest]

How many playthroughs have you done?

[gray sand]

👀

Something just went poof.

[shut fable]

I wonder how long do I have to roam the Plains to find the boss. I already have more than enough black metal and totems but cant find a waypoint. Maybe its just my map which originates form 2021 or 2022 but i find it a bit odd from a game design perspective that finding the boss is by far the hardest part

[cedar stump]

alright went into singleplayer and spawned myself my silver sword again, nothing ever hapenned, never put it in my Obliterator.

[fossil delta]

Yeah, I only put the early gear in an obliterator. Even then only after I have moved on from bronze and iron gear. You never know when you might get into an ugly death run situation and need something to run with.

[cedar stump]

yeah or just because ya know silver damage can always be good, in duo corpse run aint too bad at least always run back naked while he protects me.

[fossil delta]

Some times, my wife and I die at the same time. Rare, but it does happen. So we like to have old gear on hand.

[cedar stump]

it is bound to happen soon, surely in the mistland.

[fossil delta]

Yeah, its usually in the newer biomes when it does happen. Last time it was in the Ashlands. Older gear still works. As an example, my wife usually goes into the Ashlands with the root armor. This time she is wearing the vile set. So old gear is still good even in the hardest biomes.

[nocturne sage]

Last play took me and a friend 3 real days to find, just got lucky on this solo play and found the waypoint after 2 real days

It’s my #1 complaint for the game

[silk token]

i'm a lefty too! lefty friends! idk if this helps, but for every game i can currently think of i change jump key to left alt (thumb) and run key to R (pinky)

and i use the standard WASD for movement

[gray sand]

Someone having WASD keybinds on a DVORAK must be wild 😂

[pliant radish]

Nice vldl mentioned

[wicked quarry]

What bench is Ashland armor made? I saw the recipe fly by but cant find it in my benches

[merry pebble]

Black Forge

[gray sand]

Depends on the armor.

[shy marlin]

Black forge heavy/med, gauldr = light

[merry pebble]

Yeah, mage armor in Galdr table 😄

[wintry valve]

Viking Power Armor when?

[thorny gust]

On your first playthrough, what is a good measurement for where to build your like base after defeating the elder?

[tepid prawn]

Is quite subjective really, I like to have ocean access for instance, and I love me a swamp treehouse.

[thorny gust]

Yeah I like the ocean view too

Me and my friend are still in our tiny shack, so we are contemplating whether we should pack and mvoe or just build a new house right here

[tepid prawn]

Nearby a swamp is always great, better if there is some black forest nearby or you build in it for copper and tin too, can also be in the actual meadows etc, ocean accessis for views but also for boat access very important unless you love the cart a lot.

[tepid prawn]

If I'm playing a fast game I will live in a tiny abandoned restored shack for the first 2 biomes, and then build the treehouse as soon as I get 2 of the new swamp metal items, sometimes can do before Elder even if you're an experienced player. If I play slow I sometimes build a new house each biome I reach, but thats also too much building for a new player on their first playthough and I wouldn't recommend it for that.

[thorny gust]

meadows is the spawn biome right?

[tepid prawn]

yeah

the biome most popular generally for a big base is the 5th one

I would not recommend a new player to build there after killing the Elder though haha

[thorny gust]

Yeah well my friend is new, and I did a short run a year ago, but I know that the buidling was fun but also quite a pain in the ass sometimes

[tepid prawn]

For a trio the best is someone who likes to build farm cook, someone wholikes exploring and someone who likes to grind haha

[thorny gust]

hahaha fair enough

With my friend we just set out on journeys to getter and like basically gather materials simultaneously when we need it

[tepid prawn]

sounds great

[gray sand]

@shy marlin swamp time. Finished getting my armor and bronze spear to rank 3 😁

[thorny gust]

Yeah its much more fun to take a boar on with a mate hahaha

[tepid prawn]

you doing vegetarian hard yeah?

[gray sand]

Very Hard.

[tepid prawn]

ah yeah what i meant

[gray sand]

I don't get any new food until Mountain and even then it is just onion soup 😭

[tepid prawn]

I kinda find that a bit too challenging haha, Hard is okay, Very Hard is a scale issue for me...

[gray sand]

So I'll be entering Plains with Onion Soup, Carrot Soup, Queen's Jam.

[tepid prawn]

just find a mistless mistland and yeet some shrooms and plant them there.. or also doing no portal and all that other punishing stuff and biomes in order?

[gray sand]

I always do the biomes in order.

[tepid prawn]

no clouds then either, surely a big challenge

[shy marlin]

boring 😏

[gray sand]

To each there own.

Just like how you have my bronze armor 😏

[fossil delta]

Over 200 eggs now and finally hit 20 in my crossbow skill. Its appears to have cut a full second on loading time. If skill cuts that down to 1 to 2 seconds as you approach 100 in your skill, that can get interesting.

[foggy glacier]

yeah, it's pretty fun to have a high crossbow skill. fast enough that you can almost stunlock most enemies just with the bolts.

[glass orbit]

i died while on the ashlands and when i got to where i died to claim my items all i saw were a couple of charcoals on the ground, does your items get burnt or something? i cant find my gravestone

[foggy glacier]

it's not destroyed. might not be where you expect.

make sure you're at the right marker on your map.\

[glass orbit]

yeah you're right i've just found it, thanks

[smoky quarry]

how funny would be not, if Thor turned tombstones into one coal lump, and puffs away as you approach with an evil laugh

[glass orbit]

i would quit the game on the spot to be honest haha

[smoky quarry]

but lets you use his chariot for 30min :p

[undone forum]

Eyescream

[gray sand]

Contains glands.

[undone forum]

It does doesn’t it

[gray sand]

Indeed.

[foggy glacier]

and eyes.

vegetarian is hard. Kudos to you .

[glass orbit]

ashlands is so unforgiving bro its so hard

everywhere i go i just get instantly swarmed with enemies and die

[wide kestrel]

Remember to have fire protection at all times

[glass orbit]

i do 😭

[shy marlin]

mage or melee

[wide kestrel]

I mean as soon as I got my flametal armor and improved my parrying I found the difficulty acceptable

[gray sand]

War? In the war biome? Nooooo....

[glass orbit]

god forbid a man to talk about his difficulties i guess

[shy marlin]

Are you mage or melee?

[glass orbit]

i am melee

[shy marlin]

You wearin the root harnesk?

[glass orbit]

no fully upgraded carapace set

[shy marlin]

Try on the root harnesk, tons of enemies in the ashlands do pierce, it'll increase your survivability a lot

[silk token]

i died a ton my first time in ashlands, it gets better the more you learn the enemies and get some ashlands gear.

which melee weapon are you using?

[sly oyster]

ahhhh, i guess exploremap cant be reverted lmao

[shy marlin]

kinda can

[sly oyster]

ive spent hours sailing uncovering areas, guess ill be doing that again

[glass orbit]

#screenshots message

[shy marlin]

if you have it saved on a cartography table b4 you explored map, you can resetmap then go to cartography table and get your old exploration view

[gray sand]

Oh, this all belongs in #mods-discussion

[shy marlin]

doesn't really matter tbh

[gray sand]

It does though 🙃

[shy marlin]

oh no the integrity of the discord is upset because of a small qol mod

[silk token]

ah yeah i had atgier my first ashlands, it was so rough cuz the enemy stagger is so short. but mistwalker is a great choice

[solemn bridge]

My wife found this burial chamber in the meadows, above ground. It had multiple skeletons defending it, and did include a loot room with four surtling cores (collected before I could document with photos). Anyone ever seen this before? IS it intended?

[gray sand]

Imagine seeing things in degrees of severity 😏

[glass orbit]

what's your problem? why are you acting like you're above everyone else whenever you say something?

[gray sand]

Well that's just false...

[glass orbit]

You've said we're not related when i just simply called you "bro" a few days before, you don't need to act like this im just here to chat

If you don't like talking with other people then just don't that's what im trying to say

[gray sand]

Well, we aren't related. That's just factually true.

[glass orbit]

Hahahah

[glass orbit]

yeah I'll get used to it eventually i guess

[sly oyster]

we have this conversation daily at this point

[bronze sierra]

just in time for the drama. FIGHT HARDER.

[sly oyster]

just continue what you are talking about

[glass orbit]

nah man. im just here to escape from my daily problems don't want other people to be mean to me that's all 👍

[gray sand]

Daily? It's been almost a week 😏

[silk token]

atgier still good for asksvins, but mistwalker for everything else, you can just walk circles around morgens when they're slowed. dont give up you'll think it's a fun biome soon enough XD

[glass orbit]

alright man thanks :D

[silk token]

Im not a MAN that's factually INACCURATE

[tribal trench]

Moder is dead once again and I'm sitting in my long house drinking tasty mead and enjoying some well deserved comforts. Man this game, the friends that I have met....and lost..... There is nothing like Valheim.. Till Valhalla

[silk token]

no im a man.

[bronze sierra]

anyone can be a bro or dude, that's what my mother taught me. And she's always right.

[gray sand]

Krystorr flexing that they had a mother 😭

😏

[bronze sierra]

What a strange thing to say.

[silk token]

it's more like in ratatuoille

[sly oyster]

sitting here wondering why a boar is in the swamp, theres a tiny dot of meadows

[empty cradle]

ok now im gettin mad i just came back from a run thru the plains to get to next swamp for more iron put 140 BM ore in my storage box and teled back to swamp to replace my iron that kept disapearing last night , go to put the iron in the box and ALL the metal i had is gone

[tribal trench]

still running mods?

[empty cradle]

150 BM ore 215 copper 173 tin and 83 silver all gone

also just lookin at screenshot from last nite 50 honey gone too

#screenshots message

it was all there 10 mins ago

[tribal trench]

To many mods and man I run the game without mods because of that very reason... To many bugs, especially when official work comes out and they update the game.

the mods are old and the new content don't jive.... thats to be expected

[empty cradle]

almost all the mods im running are updated to new content as of 25th and the only mods that do anything with inventory ive never had an issue last 3 plays

[sly oyster]

i see azumatt mods, which are currently updated and about as gold standard as you get

[empty cradle]

yaa i running mostly azu's mods

but stuff only disapearing from 1 box and i changed it from 10 slot to iron chest last night but in same spot

[fossil delta]

FINALLY! I got the Vile trophy, so my wife can now make her head piece. 😄

Only took 40 something of them for RNG to finally give me one.

I have to say, they did a good job of making it look ugly and undead.

Now I want another to keep on my walls with all the other trophies. 😄 😄

[empty cradle]

ok changed sum settings in V+ to not auto store the honey that was going to same chest as metal see if that works

[tidal hornet]

whys the ashlands so laggy?

[gray sand]

Because there is a lot of instances the game is trying to track at the same time.

[tidal hornet]

its been out for a year and its still laggy?

[gray sand]

Other priorities.

[tidal hornet]

like what?

[gray sand]

Finishing the game?

Getting the whole thing done then going back over for optimization pass?

[wooden tapir]

small dev team, cant fix things overnight while also trying to make an entire new biome

[tidal hornet]

its the ashlands and 1 year is overnight?

[wooden tapir]

that 1 year has been spent on combat fine tuning and deep north

the ashlands is in a playable state, the lag is not gamebreaking

just minor inconvinence

[fossil delta]

There is lag in the Ashlands?

[tidal hornet]

wouldnt you fix the ashlands before making a new boime?

and yes

[fossil delta]

Hadn't noticed. Must have hid behind all the ugliness.

Probably help if they cut down on, or got rid of, all the gaseous atmosphere effects.

[untold sinew]

True

[crude saddle]

What the hell do they feed the fluffy cows, they do so much damage

[fluid cove]

Cloudberries

maybe the berries produce natural steroids in their stomach

[crude saddle]

I reckon a lox could solo the elder

[slow flicker]

cloud berries mostly

[empty cradle]

anyone know of a mod that increases range of taming % visibility?

im taming a grizzly bear cuz i wanna ride it 😄

that n a skelly killed my 1 star wolf i just got into the pit as i went to find another wolfie

[quasi latch]

#mods-discussion

[robust token]

Fluffy cows 🤣🤣🤣

They are technically chonky fluffy lizards, but that works too

[fluid cove]

Lizard + Ox = Lox

[robust token]

According to the wiki yeah

W for the devs on naming that

[fluid cove]

i literally dont have the heart to slaughter my farm Loxes

they're so fluffy and cute

even tho i needed another batch of Lox Pies

[robust token]

I usually just hunt for Lox if I ever need them

[crude saddle]

I forgot how necessary shields are in this game

Feels nice not instantaneously exploding when attacked

Except for that 2-star fuling who demolished me

[tacit crystal]

Atgeir secondary can replace the need for shield.

[shy marlin]

Why react and parry when you can just be proactive and stagger

[empty cradle]

woot got me a 2nd grizzly 2 reg wolves and a 2star all in same pit taming now 😄

was a bit risky "sparta" ing the 2 star into the pit

he woulda 1shot me if i missed

just learned grizzly and wolves are fine together until tamed had to kill the grizz to save the 2 star wolf

[wintry valve]

petition to add green ogres to the swamp

[crisp estuary]

Bears are untamable? Aww

[empty cradle]

modded bear from Monstrum mod

they are tameable but will fight the wild wolves after tamed

#screenshots message made the saddle

[tacit crystal]

Kindly reminder to keep modded content discussions in https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1202934289898151966 as this is vanilla channel. 👍

[crude saddle]

Not surprised, but given I have yet to fight Moder

[tacit crystal]

Dodging has worked and still works well against bosses.
Since latest update, perfect dodges return some stamina and also perfect blocks aka parries cost stamina no more, so parrying bosses has become viable option for stamina management.

[crude saddle]

I meant more in general, like trying to fight anything in the plains without a shield has proved suicidal so far, bar deathsquitos and even then

[tacit crystal]

Surely shield is much safer option, but the game is doable even without one.

During one of my perma challenge runs I only used 2h weapons (atgeir, battleaxe, sledge, 2h sword) and no shield.

[crude saddle]

Oh I am going to lose it, I died on a different island and forgot to put a bed down, just spent 20 minutes sailing to my death point only for a lox to fall out of the air and swim into the ocean and almost destroy the boat

I knew they were part lizard, I didn't realise that lizard was a salamander

[tacit crystal]

Ouch. But you can do it!

[crude saddle]

0/10 do not recommend getting attacked by aquatic lizard cows

[reef juniper]

Is it a common opinion in this game's fanbase like it is between me and my friend, that this game has some of the worst enemy AI ever seen?

[gray sand]

I would not say worst, but it is not great.

[crude saddle]

The grey dwarf and fuling AI definitely leaves something to be desired

[tepid prawn]

there is a lot of games who do or did this much worse

[reef juniper]

Literally every enemy type has the most bare bones basic attack -> relocate -> attack cycle

And it sucks when I'm just trying to fight something and I'm literally chasing after it or hugging it while it refuses to interact

[heady parcel]

Oh no, not every enemy but the ones who do make sense for the most part. It can be annoying to chase a fuling down on occasion, but if some mobs in groups would focus you without their "flanking" manoeuvre, they could easily become too overwhelming.

The most jarring AI "feature" I have seen is the suicidal dvergr in Ashlands. They die in lava, but they don't realise they need to avoid it..

[crude saddle]

Surtlings do that in water, which is a problem given they live in a swamp

Well a problem for them, free coal for me

[heady parcel]

Yeah, but that makes a bit more sense since they are essentially elementals and spawn accidentally due to the geyser spitting them out. That the geyser is situated in a swamp is just bad luck...

[willow sleet]

Aight fellas, I got a question for ya. Is there a way to fully duplicate your worlds? Like just copy paste my forever world with all the stuff carried over, so I can mod one and keep the other. And can you do the same with characters?

[crude saddle]

#mods-discussion is probably the best bet for that

[willow sleet]

Welp

[heady parcel]

Copying the wold - or making a backup copy e.g. - is pretty straightforward, just copy the world files to a new folder.

[tacit crystal]

Probably they don't actively avoid the lava since it's part of the terrain, not its own entity.

[willow sleet]

So go browse the game files?

[heady parcel]

Yeah, I think Smiffe said something like that, with their current config there is no way to tell them lava is bad.

[reef juniper]

One for example is the stone golem for me

It will walk about and move away from you while trying to fight it the entire time

[heady parcel]

That is to give the average player a chance to regenerate some stamina I think

[reef juniper]

Like me and my friend will just hug it and wait

[heady parcel]

When just into the mtns I am pretty grateful they do the odd little walkaround so I can recover after a bad parry attempt..

[nocturne wolf]

It's ok that they can circle the player but they should stop if the player remains close to them

[heady parcel]

Yeah, if you follow them after they turn away, they should just turn back and re-engage.

[heady parcel]

The world files are located in the Appdata folder, exact path depends on your installation, but usually something like C:\Users\YOURUSERNAME\AppData\LocalLow\IronGate\Valheim\worlds_local

[crude saddle]

Combat is also extremely different solo vs multi on account of you having different gear, skills, health, stamina, etc.

[heady parcel]

Oh yeah I forgot to say, before you make your copy you need to shift your save from cloud storage to local, to copy the files (world name .db and .fwl). Then you can shift them back to cloud if you want.

[willow sleet]

Ah

[crude saddle]

I'm not sure if I've gotten exceptionally unlucky before or exceptionally luck now, because I've just doubled the amount of silver nodes I've discovered looking for Moder's vegvesir

[willow sleet]

By "new folder" do you mean make a new one in the Valheim folder?

[crude saddle]

Make that quadrupled

[neon steppe]

hooked serpent to small swamp island and got swarmed by million enemies myself, this was a mistake 😭

[crude saddle]

Frostner go brrrrr

[cedar stump]

goooood mornin', doing Yagluth for real now tonight, we got our last 2 totems last night and another trip of black metal. Made 6 fire res, 3 each should be enough for the fight.

[willow sleet]

Best of luck man, I went in blind and didn't know he dealt fire damage.

[cedar stump]

Hopefully no deaths will happen and then big adventure to find mistlands 😄

[heady parcel]

When half your - structurally sound - building spontaneously falls apart when you're away, that is due to load lag, right? Seems one of the core supporting walls in my build loaded last, and it had some unsavoury consequences. Is this a thing that can be avoided somehow?

(Was not a mob that did it btw, was inside the building)

[neon steppe]

same, haha. i quickly found out tho and ran away as i was burning 😄

back to base brew some barley wine!

[willow sleet]

Yup, I thought it was useless. Shoulda known better lol

[cedar stump]

I never even realised I had unlocked a fire resistance mead 😛 hopefully hes gonna be a bit harder than Moder which was pretty boring/easy

[neon steppe]

afaik yagluth was end boss at launch

before they released new biomes and stuff

[tacit crystal]

That's correct.

[tacit crystal]

And he is harder than Moder.

[merry pebble]

He usually gives new players a bit of trouble 😄 i think you will be happy

[cedar stump]

Good! I need some challenge, like I died 1 or 2 times on elder x)

also didnt repair my bow going into the fight lol so it broke 30sec in

[merry pebble]

Melee Is usually faster anyway xD

[neon steppe]

in my first playthrough i killed eikthyr, elder and moder on 1st try, bonemass on 2nd try and i think i died total 3 times to yagluth

[cedar stump]

I didnt like his moves to go in melee ngl

but now im more used to go in melee and block/parry/dodge

[neon steppe]

almost broke my mace to moder, took million hits but got it done

idk what weapon would be good against it

[tacit crystal]

Frostner?

[neon steppe]

no, i think it was iron mace

i knew not to use frost arrows or frostner

also moder kills my FPS especially if there are drakes too, that was annoying

[cedar stump]

Moder was really underwhelming and kinda buggy too lol hed try to hit me in melee and would miss and then be bugged in place letting us both get free hits

[tacit crystal]

Yeah her AI has struggled long time.

[neon steppe]

i saw a youtube short where someone built a bonfire or something, and went under that lol

and moder died to fire by itself

[cedar stump]

I wanna see a campfire only elder kill xd

[near furnace]

plenty of those on youtube

[tribal trench]

Slayed Moder yesterday at Night and it got a little crazy with all the additional monsters haha

The Altar was encased in rock too... so that was a first

[cedar stump]

sounds spicy at night ngl 😛 cant imagine if you get hunted by pack of wolves or something 😛

[tribal trench]

Well there was 4 golems ... wolves, drakes, and even a Ulv joined in

[crude saddle]

Wolves aren't scary, but 4 golems is horrifying

[merry pebble]

Not ulv, fenring right? 😄

[tribal trench]

I think it's spelled Ulv

[cedar stump]

I hate dealing with multiple wolves but yeah golems is even worse for sure

[chrome badge]

Ulvs and Fenrings are cave only 😛

[cedar stump]

huh

[shy marlin]

fenrings are not cave only heh

[cedar stump]

I fought fenrings outside at night, you mean cultist/ulv

[merry pebble]

Ulvs are caves only 🙂 fenrings spawn at night outside

[tribal trench]

maybe it was a fenring

[shy marlin]

you mean cultists?

[chrome badge]

Oh sorry cultists

[tribal trench]

I have it on video

[chrome badge]

Forgot that variant 😛

[tribal trench]

it's in self promo channel

a few scrolls up

[chrome badge]

Not to worry I was mistaken, it's likely a Fenring

[tribal trench]

probably

[hearty flume]

That feeling when you have built something near spawn, and then... 5 min later it comes a troll raid with 2 1 star trolls and smacks half of it down... 😒 And as if it was not enough, they got stuck near my death marker, and smacked me down 3 times when I tried leaping it to get my gear and fight them... uuuurgh!

[tribal trench]

well whatever the bipedal wolves that spawn at night on the mountain are called

they joined in too lol

[merry pebble]

Yep, Fenrings 😄

[tribal trench]

Man o man it was intense

[cedar stump]

always forget after raids theres a couple of mobs wandering around

got clapped by a berserker that did a rampage on my farm smh(didnt have food buff up)

[merry pebble]

Can be if something keeps them agrroed 🙂

[cedar stump]

all the greydwarves near our base 😛

[merry pebble]

Taht would do it xD

[cedar stump]

meadows base is chill but damn greydwarves be so annoying

[hearty flume]

Hah! I was playing with a friend, he got knocked down by a greydwarf throwing a stone, while I killed a bear, and then the troll comes and knocks us straight to Valhalla xD

[cedar stump]

I need to get better at thinking about getting food in base x)

died twice to jumping down 1 floor in my base xd

[tacit crystal]

Quite classic way to go.

[eternal swan]

Hello vikings.
Is there a way to stop new recepies to apear on screen when you pick up an item.
I mean. I launch about 3/4 games a week as i do speedrun and everytime the are some recepies poping up specually when you unlock iron.
With 6k hours on the game this feature is not necessary. And a way to unable that would be very welcome.
So if someone can tell me how to do it i would apreciate a lot ☺️

[merry pebble]

You can unlock all pieces and recipes using commands, tho that might give you a very long series of those pop ups, and if you are using fresh characters for speedruns you would have to do it for each and every one of them.

[coarse gust]

Sounds like a classic case of feather cape withdrawal

[tacit crystal]

Or "not yet Feather cape" state.

[cedar stump]

exactly what I was about to say, but I know about it tho.

still using that starter cape fully upgraded for that HUGE armor haha

[coarse gust]

Yeah that too.

I was quite lucky when i made my ashen cape and found out that jumping down from my balcony to the courtyard deals 24 fall damage.

[eternal swan]

In speedrun you are not allowed to use any mods or commands

[eternal swan]

A feature un the settings would be nice.

[pliant hatch]

Best way to post it as a suggestion in https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1202312684364910612.

Just don't forget to add the 💡 before doing the final hit at [enter].

[delicate gulch]

Iron Sword level 4 guys, do or don't? 😀 silver sword seens too expensive and bronze sword too weak... but 80 iron... do you consider it a good weapon?

Btw i love swords 🙂

[azure yacht]

no

[gray sand]

Silver sword all the way.

[smoky quarry]

Silver for monsters

[tacit crystal]

Do as you want, there is no right or wrong answers. 👍

[near saddle]

Silver is a bit easier to get than iron imo

And has less use in the game overall

[smoky quarry]

you don't really need iron neither besides building

[near saddle]

That still counts

[smoky quarry]

silver way easier to get is the mega bonus

[silk token]

and surprise stuff like ovens and spinners, and krom if you want it

[near saddle]

And there are mistlands weapons that cost a non-negligible amount of iron

[smoky quarry]

def you Want Krom

[silk token]

oh and skull splitter. huh yeah lots of iron based mist weaponry…

it is nice of the game to have iron scrap laying around in mists

[merry pebble]

Even already smelted ingots if you know where to look 😄

[silk token]

you have to ask nicely for them i think right? 🗡️

[pliant hatch]

Yup.

Just yell: "Your Iron or your life!"

Seems to work.

You can even go 'dramatic' and add:

"This is a stick-up! Put your hands in the air and give me all your iron. Or pay for it with your life."

[eager bough]

Making bronze seems to slow me a bit as I run coastline in search of tiny tin and my brain keeps going ( squirrel ) 🐿️ and I loose track of what I was doing.

[tacit crystal]

And Skull Splittur.

[cedar stump]

that sounds dope

couldnt resist the temptation anymore and look at soooome gameplay from mistland...

[wicked quarry]

Damn, running through Ashlands feels like playing Diablo

[tacit crystal]

Ah missed this one.

[coarse gust]

Dont forget padded armor also costs quite a bit of iron

[hallow estuary]

Will Valheim be on sale

[wintry valve]

iron arrows

[flat valley]

hello. Is this game playable in offline mode? if yes, is it recommended?

[hallow estuary]

Yes and Yes

[flat valley]

does it have good combat?

[hallow estuary]

It sure does

You have to get used to it first but it's still a good system

[flat valley]

ty

[verbal mist]

with mods you can sink 1000s of hours into this game easily

[gray sand]

Without mods you can sink 1000s of hours into this game easily.

[shy marlin]

With both you can sink 6.023*10^23 hrs into this game easily

[gray sand]

If you play like Scales you can sink 1000s of hours into this game difficult-ly.

[light moat]

With immortality you can sink infinite hours into this game easily.

[azure yacht]

you already can without them

[neon steppe]

without hours you can't sink into this game

[tacit crystal]

Let that sink in.

[shy marlin]

This is deep.

[neon steppe]

deep as sinkhole

[gray sand]

Maximum sinkhole depth is 8m though 😏

[tacit crystal]

We are rolling in the deep.

[silk token]

without sinks you can spend hours washing dishes

[smoky quarry]

you get a hungry pet wolf, he will clean lick them up real good

[cedar sparrow]

Interesting conversation, LOL

[heady parcel]

Now, I know load lag can occasionally make large buildings load parts of the construction in the wrong order, making some pieces collapse. This happened to me today and re-constructing one wing of my keep was decidedly un-fun. So... is there any way to avoid this happening? Besides not building big...?

[cedar sparrow]

Oh wow, I have never had this problem before and I've done some good size builds. I do know that each piece renders in separately, regardless of size, so use larger pieces rather than smaller pieces and clear clutter (trees, bushes, rocks, drops, too many tames). Are you altering the structural integrity of pieces or modding, or is it plain vanilla? There may be channels better able to help if you aren't playing vanilla

@heady parcel

[heady parcel]

Always plain vanilla. I think one of the core walls in my kitchen wing loaded later than the above floors. Had an hour's worth of rebuilding to do of internal walls, floors and decorations. Outer shell and roof was intact, thank Odin

[elder cave]

Guys should I upgrade my copper sword to level 4 🤔

[heady parcel]

How do you check instances btw? I don't think I have absurdly many, the house isn't that big, just high, and I've cleared a lot of forest around it

[heady parcel]

Copper? Assuming you mean bronze I think it would be more cost- and time-effective to start on iron weaponry, but if you need to prioritise other things with your iron - the bronze sword lvl 4 will carry you through the swamp. Or the mace. Particularly the mace...

[mint shadow]

Yes it is always recommended to max out all your bronze gear before moving on.

[nocturne wolf]

Level 4 upgrades are very expensive, level 3 is good enough

[heady parcel]

I don't remember with the forge, don't you need iron to upgrade it so you can upgrade bronze weapons to 4, or does that pattern only come after that?

[elder cave]

This games so confusing 😕

[nocturne wolf]

You can't get a level 4 forge before swamps

[heady parcel]

It can be - but if the mobs die when you smack them you're doing something right, and a lvl 4 sword will make them die faster.

[cedar sparrow]

Hit F2 in game and it'll tell you in the window that appears

[cedar sparrow]

The other thing I can think of is structural integrity. How much of your build is red. It won't take much to cause a collapse if there is a lot of red pieces when hovering over with the hammer equipped. I recall friends mentioning having issues with things breaking when loading if they don't make sure their builds are well supported. Try adding in some iron beams for additional support

That being said, it's not something I've ever had problems with, and I build a lot. So I'm just trying to think of things that may help. Someone else may be of more use than I am

[heady parcel]

Most of it is actually green, the core walls all have iron supports in them that go all the way to the top to carry the pointy christmas-tree roof. And it was the first and second floors that collapsed, so I'm a bit confused.

[cedar sparrow]

Yeah, that's really odd. Is it on a server or is it a solo game?

[heady parcel]

Solo world

Maybe I just need to stop running all the time, give it more time to load. #RatatoskJunkie

[cedar sparrow]

🤣

It's good stuff, that's for sure!

[heady parcel]

😄

[random wave]

hye im kinda new and im only in the iron age and im looking for other people to play with is there any popular servers that anyone recomends , or people that might be interested in playing?

[cedar sparrow]

#1024264966712340510 is the place to look

[random wave]

sorry didnt know about that

[cedar sparrow]

No worries, it's all good. Good luck finding players to share the game with 😄

[verbal mist]

ya i missed it all, your all nutty like PB

[gray lava]

ayo what do love potions do? I dont know what to use them for

[verbal mist]

i would argue its hard to sink 1000h+ into valheim without mods

show me a gamer with 1000h+ who never used mods

[gray sand]

All mead effects are described on the food sheet pinned in this channel.

[gray sand]

Hi.

[verbal mist]

really? i salute you

your missing out lad, theres alot of good mods lol

[gray sand]

See that's where we differ and why it isn't difficult for me. 😂

[verbal mist]

i would argue mods that almost a must-have

sorry *some mods

[gray sand]

And I would argue the world would be a better place if they didn't exist at all.
The beauty of opinion. 🤷‍♂️

[pliant radish]

I’ve played with mods in the past a bit but I tend not to as of late

[verbal mist]

its still a great game without for sure

[cedar sparrow]

I played 3500 hours before I tried mods

[pliant radish]

And I mostly played with QOL mods like that one that lets you teleport with a cart, so nice

[gray sand]

🤝

[cedar sparrow]

I'll play with or without. I'm good either way

[verbal mist]

some of them are game changers, but i get why some perfer to play the game as the devs intended

[gray sand]

If I wore hats I would take mine off to you good sir.
A balanced opinion acknowledging both sides have merit instead of raging that yours is the only correct opinion. 💛

[pliant radish]

If you don’t play with mods you’re playing the game wrong and you might as well uninstall you loser

[gray sand]

Now that is a Discord reply 😂

[cedar sparrow]

I play with mods just for kicks, and for QoL stuff like build camera and death pin remover, but I love the game no matter how I play it. And I don't judge others for how they wish to play.

[cedar sparrow]

If you play WITH mods you are not really playing Valheim because you are not playing the game the devs intended 🤣

[verbal mist]

ya'll suck, i am king of the vikings

[cedar sparrow]

Couldn't resist, LOL

[verbal mist]

only today i just realized theres MP servers around lol

had no idea

[gray sand]

Currently there are only 2 mods I would even consider.

1. Remove the Olympic punt strength on Frostner so I can actually use it as a weapon.
2. Tameable Necks. (But only if they don't make them tameable in 1.0)

[pliant radish]

Personally I’m a big fan of the mod that lets you go through a portal with a cart

Such a small change, but so nice

[verbal mist]

my favourite is easily the "flying" building mod

[gray sand]

You mean devcommands, debugmode, press Z?

[gray sand]

As someone who believes Stone Portal should never have been added to the game... 😁

[verbal mist]

i use the mod, but it just lets you fly when you use your hammer to build roofs/windows ect

[pliant radish]

Stone portal is different than bringing carts with you

It just makes it faster to do something you can already do by breaking the cart and going back and forth until you moved everything

[heady parcel]

Can't post a screenshot, but I am currently at 2,616.6 hours and never used a single mod whatsoever. My firm opinion is that Valheim simply doesn't need any. Others disagree - and that's fine, we do what we do, and I enjoy the heck out of the game as it is. Once it goes 1.0 and (maybe?) gets official mod support, I might look into some things like render distance etc, but for the most part Valheims is a delightfully complete game in its vanilla state.

[verbal mist]

100% but for me theres just too many great ones to not use them

even vanilla its an amazing game

[gray sand]

Lies. There is no such thing as a "great" mod.

[verbal mist]

some feel like they should already be in the game but thats just my opinion

[gray sand]

cracks knuckles
Time for Discord to turn into a reddit comment section.

😏

[verbal mist]

all the community mods show how much we all love this game lol

[cedar sparrow]

I must admit, I also love the build camera mod. I love building and it takes the pain out of it

[verbal mist]

but the great thing about mods is you dont have to use them, all optional

[gray sand]

I will agree to disagree on this point 😄

[verbal mist]

ahh ya thats the one, i wont play valheim without it anymore

takes the headache out of building

honestly thats the only for me thats a must have

the rest are just sprinkles on top

[heady parcel]

I run a server for another game and used to have like 50-70 mods on it, tends to pile up once you start on it, but recently reverted to pure vanilla on that too - out of sheer lazyness, since these days I play Valheim most of the time and only run the other server for the guys who play on it. Thing is, for a server admin mods is a mixed blessing, you do get the chance to add cool shit you think the game lacks, or somebody on the internet told you should be in the game - but the other side of the coin is constant issues with mods breaking with updates or mods in conflict with each other, or having unintended side effects (surely mods cannot be bugged, gasp!) causing all kinds of weird issues. This all makes running a modded server a daily struggle. In the end I just grew tired of it all and thought fuck it, vanilla is THE WAY. And since I thoroughly enjoy Valheim out of the box, I see no reason to open that particular Pandora's box.

And the whole above paragraph belongs in another channel, but whatever..

[gray sand]

Me, comparing Ballsm to my average experience with modders...
-# Activate Joker Voice
Don't talk like one of them you're not! Even if you'd like to be.

[verbal mist]

me a moder? i have two needy kids and wife who loves to shop. no time for that lol

i'd love to learn though

[heady parcel]

Poor Brenna, I was a bit too far progressed this time, a fricking two-star torch fuling is more dangerous than her...

ummm, a question to Iron Gate - have you guys actually coded in rogue waves to the ocean wave system in storms?!? I just encountered a wave three times as high as the others before and after, nearly toppled my longsip upside down...

[verbal mist]

I asked this last night, but I didn’t get an answer unfortunately. Is it common to find skeleton bones in the mountains? I’m having really bad luck I think

I don’t remember ever finding skeleton bones in the mountains. We always found silver right away

[heady parcel]

After you have killed Bonemass, skeletons will spawn at night in any biome (at least up to Plains) and roam around there to get killed by the locals. If you find bones lying around, that's why.

[verbal mist]

No, I mean we dig them up and then the ping goes away

We are searching for silver

[heady parcel]

Aah, yeah buried treasures is a thing. Usually a necklace or something along with the bones

[verbal mist]

Just bad just luck I guess. I read it could be a bug

[heady parcel]

Now, I don't need chitin so it is not an issue for me - but are Leviathans really supposed to always start their sinking process after your first hit with a pickaxe?

I just sink them to reduce the shipping hazard, bur for anyone actually wanting the chitin I can imagine it being frustrating...

Argh sinking not thinking

[cedar sparrow]

I've had some that don't start sinking right away

[cedar sparrow]

Yeah, there are buried remains in the mountains, and sometimes treasure. But there is also silver. How high is your mountain? Is there drakes, golems and obsidian on it? If not, then it might be too low to spawn silver

The wishbone isn't picky. It will ping for any buried "treasure", from the chests buried in the "shipwrecks" in the meadows, to muddy scrap piles in the swamps, to silver in the mountains

[neon steppe]

we are still talking about sinks?

[heady parcel]

In short, it's like a typical metal detector. It will beep, but you don't know if it's a lost viking hoard or a bottle cap...

[cedar sparrow]

Sinks? I know Valheim is a huge time sink, LOL

[fossil delta]

As for the Lev's, they will start sinking, period. Its just not for sure on the first hit. It will be for sure by the 5th hit. So unless you limit yourself to one or two hits, it might not sink. But why limit it? There are plenty of Levs to find.

[heady parcel]

Yeah, I just hop on them to sink them, to get them out of my way when sailing between islands...

[verbal mist]

my sink smells like feet when i pour boiling water down the drain

what gives?

[heady parcel]

There's some funky chemical stuff you can pour down the sink to deal with that 😉

[verbal mist]

thank you ill give it a go

[verbal mist]

we'll keep looking the gods have not been kind to us so far

[heady parcel]

Me, I've barely ever had to use the wishbone, whenever I go up a tall enough mountain I tend to fins silver veins poking out of the ground

Wiki says it is rare, so I must be blessed because it is more common than not for me

(Which, in real numbers, means that in 5-6 worlds I have found a two-figures number of silver veins by sheer visual identification. I did the ME SMASH thing with stagbreaker once, but I felt so foolish walking around a mountain smashing the ground that I have never done it since...)

[verbal mist]

ok last playthroughs we've never had a problem

maybe it has to do difficulty settings, we're on highest difficulty this run

[heady parcel]

Yeah that's rng for ya, sometimes the stars align against you

[gray sand]

Difficulty doesn't affect material spawns.

[verbal mist]

i didnt think so

[neon steppe]

all i find is silver

and all i want is moder spawn location or spawn

[verbal mist]

just bad rng

[neon steppe]

🙁

[verbal mist]

ya that can be rough

[heady parcel]

RNG can be a <bleep>. In my no-portals world I am struggling to find certain trophies. Some feel like a 1/1 drop rate, while I have killed like 30 bears by now and got ONE trophy...

[verbal mist]

we found a stone hidden away between two rocks in the mountains last night, they could be anywhere

[heady parcel]

I nead a heap more for the rugs I have planned haha

[verbal mist]

no-portals....i cant convince my wife. i'd love to try it

we're highest diff atm, but no portals she wont go for lol

[heady parcel]

I thought it would be too extreme, but man I love how it slows down progress in a natural way. There's just no way to speedrun, you have to be methodical and plan journeys

[verbal mist]

ya thats why i want to try it

[heady parcel]

But man, once I get to Ashlands I will activate portals and pretend stone portals are the only ones that exist

[verbal mist]

every base has a "real" meaning

[heady parcel]

No way I'll take on Ashlands without

[verbal mist]

rather then one "main" base

[heady parcel]

Indeed

[verbal mist]

i'll convince her at some point

honestly i dont like the portals, but its a rough game without them

[heady parcel]

It really is fun. Makes you sail a lot more too, so for the first time ever I have Moder's power picked

[verbal mist]

have you tried valheimraft? it would go really well with that

live off your boat basically

[heady parcel]

What's that, a mod?

[verbal mist]

buidable boats

[heady parcel]

Ah well, maybe some day 😉

[verbal mist]

and yes its exactly as it sounds

you build them from scratch

that mod + no portals...eventually lol

for now we're hurtin with max diff, its rough

[heady parcel]

Well, world modifiers are essentially vanilla mods 😄

[verbal mist]

nice, thats what makes valheim so great. tweak it how you want

[heady parcel]

Yeah the way difficulty settings work in Valheim make them a no-no for me. Give me more mobs and higher chances for starred ones, not your average greyling suddenly being dangerous.

[gray sand]

No. What makes it so great is that it does not need to be tweaked.
WE MUST FIGHT.

[heady parcel]

Rhaaargh!

[gray sand]

That's why they added world sliders.
Because it should never be tweaked.

[silk token]

i find that i sail enough with no portal to run into enough serpents to eat through scary bits of mountain and plains, so it’s like i’m not forced to waste time on a boat i’m just multi tasking

[heady parcel]

Indeed - I never actively hunt serpents but man I have enough serpent meat to last me a LONG time!

[silk token]

no portal also synergizes with no map because while you sail around you swing by other coastlines and try to spot merchants

[heady parcel]

No-map is a bit too masochistic for me as is, but I would love a setting where building the cartography table would let you view the full map at the table.

[gray sand]

Nothing synergize with no map. Because no map is evil 😄

[verbal mist]

id love to try no map

[gray sand]

I've done no portal.
I will never do no map. 😄

[verbal mist]

just because i like to feel the hurt

[silk token]

that would be cool, you could look and go “oh, that island isn’t enormous i just went around it 3 times”

[verbal mist]

this is the setting id like to do but my wife has made me compromise

plus we dont play enough

[silk token]

my wife would get lost IMMEDIATELY

like shed get lost on the way to the eikthyr marker

[gray sand]

Everyone out here flexing they have wives 😭

😏

[verbal mist]

i feel like no map you would have to play alot to keep the world fresh in your mind

[silk token]

yeah kind of. i make doodles sometimes of what i think the world looks like

[verbal mist]

haha ya, my wife dont know north from south lol

[gray sand]

If they added a compass I could possibly do no map.

[silk token]

or sometimes i do signs too, and i have codes for different symbols i make on coastlines, like a big post with an X or a T

[verbal mist]

whole nother game i bet

[tacit crystal]

Yggdrasil tree is the compass. 👀

[heady parcel]

Yeah, like when I played Eye of the Beholder or Dungeon Master back in the 90:s. Doing maps on grid paper, heaps of notes, then you made it to the final boss and had more papers than for any school work you should have been doing at that time

[silk token]

it really is a different game, everyone should try once

[verbal mist]

ya i agree

[gray sand]

No 😛

[silk token]

tree is bae once you learn her

[verbal mist]

one of the first things i do in any game is turn off way points i hate them

[silk token]

i can tell not only where but how far with her

[verbal mist]

do you also use no portals?

[silk token]

no map no portals yeah, i use minimal portals when i hit ashlands because nobody needs that

[verbal mist]

ya thats rough, must be fun though. are you modded?

[silk token]

no mods

[verbal mist]

a buddy of mine will only play one life or we wont touch the game anymore lol

[silk token]

its not bad really, no map and no portal really go well together. It just lends itself to a more immersive and chill experience.

[verbal mist]

he has thounsands of hours though cant blame him

[silk token]

yeah, I like hardcore death if I’m playing on normal difficulty just so it’s exciting

[verbal mist]

one life i'll never do, my time is too precious

[silk token]

I just started another on hard with normal death because I got bored of mistlands and needed a break

[verbal mist]

we're max diff but heres the kicker....

ready for it?

[silk token]

I only get about an hour or two of play a day tops, my time is also precious. It’s more like needing to feel alive lol. I do hard-core for anything that has it, Minecraft, project zone Boyd, things that get the heart pumping.

[verbal mist]

we insta-kill the bosses and need all trophies to move on

yup insta them ALL lol

[silk token]

“zone Boyd”?? lol phone wtf, zomboid.

I guess it’s fair if my phone doesn’t know the word zomboid

[heady parcel]

Oh, the relaxing ambience of deathsquitos exterminating the local boars

[silk token]

what does that mean Insta kill just fight them as soon as you can?

[verbal mist]

my wife hates the bosses, so that was our trade-off

spawn them and pop them like a zit

with devcommands

[silk token]

ooohhhhh ok.

[verbal mist]

but the mobs are hard as nails

and we need to be able to spawn the boss and get all trophies in the zone

[silk token]

yeah, I mean most bosses are pretty dumb. The queen and Fader are fun, maybe Yagluth, but otherwise they’re just parry auto auto auto parry auto auto auto zzzzz

[verbal mist]

my wife hates the bosses, and if im honest its the waekest part of the game for me

ya i love the game but the bosses imo are junk

basically just glitch them to win

[silk token]

bosses are weaker than 2 star mobs of their biome, i dont get it

[verbal mist]

i also dont like that they spawn in the "real world"

[heady parcel]

Only boss that ever gave me trouble was Yaggy, but I haven't gotten to Fader yet. Queen I beat by profuse use of fire bombs

[verbal mist]

your running around trying to avoid mobs and fight the boss, its just bad design imo

[heady parcel]

Nah, it's easy enough to avoid having company from other mobs during the fight, it is part of preparing for it imo

[silk token]

i beat Fader first try without spoilers, he’s just very telegraphed dont stand in the fire and otherwise just block and auto

[heady parcel]

You make a sweep and kill anything near, you don't start the fight just before night falls - little to no interference

[verbal mist]

its just my opinion, the bosses just dont do it for me

[silk token]

thats just an opportunity for excitement! One time I fought Moder while a golem spawned somehow twice in the same spot during the fight. They really gotta turn down those responses of golems.

[verbal mist]

we always just find some way to glitch them, so we dont fight them anymore. Just max out the other mobs difficulty

but we've beat them of course, just cant be bothered anymore

[silk token]

well Moder glitches herself, now that we can attack up, more often than not she pins me against a small rock and can’t hit me while I just hit her

[verbal mist]

ya thats what i mean, bosses should be in a separte zone to avoid glitches

[heady parcel]

A few of them I like - Elder, Moder and Yaggy are proper boss fights. Bonemass is a wee bit to simplistic and just a boring green blob, while queen spits out enough adds to make her seem more a WoW raid boss than something that has to do with Valheim. On the other hand, her being the QUEEN of the seekers makes that bit kinda fitting, I just don't like the kinda boss fight where I spend 90% of my time avoiding the boss and hitting her minions.

[verbal mist]

designed better, its just my opinion

[silk token]

I’m really hoping final boss is player sized and has some new tricks

[verbal mist]

we fought the drake once on a cliff and dropped to our death off the other side, never went back to that world

lol

the bosses are very rng in their locations

[heady parcel]

haha - that's called situational awareness. If you know there's a steep fricking dropoff on one side - don't let her push you there. Besides, Moder is best dealt with by shooting lots of arrows at her until she lands and then smacking the bejeesus out of her...

I like the Moder fight - the times she doesn't get stuck in trees or something

When she can move around like she's supposed to, she is an interesting and not trivial fight

[silk token]

she’s OK now that we have better hit boxes, but her hit box needs to be given the same improvement

before I would spend most of the fight, just trying to stand on the right rock so I could get a swing on her level

[heady parcel]

Yeh if she lands on a rock you won't get to smack her, better have a good stock of arrows

[silk token]

I don’t, I just throw spears at drakes, the bow stays in the boat

[empty nest]

How long on average does it take to get to plains , like progressing in plains

[silk token]

idk if there’s an “average” anyone can say it’s all subjective to how people play

[heady parcel]

Gods, it all depends so much on the world it is impossible to say

[gray sand]

Also on how much you build/upgrade per tier.

Like... if you make one of every bronze weapon and fully upgrade them -- your time will be vastly different than someone who just made Buckler + Troll Armor and moved on 😄

[faint yew]

10-30 hrs

[verbal mist]

I hope I didn’t come across as a troll. I love the game to death. What makes it so great is you can modify it however, you want.

Endless replayability

[gray sand]

NO. 😏

[verbal mist]

The fact it can be tweaked so much is why it’s been alive for so long

It’s why people come back from multiple runs

[silk token]

that and random map generation

[gray sand]

I SEE THROUGH THE LIES OF THE MODDERS
I DO NOT FEAR VANILLA AS YOU DO

[verbal mist]

A healthy mod community keeps s game alive for years after release

[heady parcel]

Yeah, you have the basic rules but the way a world generates makes a hell of a difference

[gray sand]

A good game keeps a game alive for years after release 🤷‍♂️

[silk token]

personally i like vanilla of anything best. but. im glad people can mod and have fun if they want

[verbal mist]

No, I think you have the wrong mindset

[gray sand]

Imagine having fun wrong.

[verbal mist]

I played this game vanilla play through multiple times through all the bosses

Has nothing to do with fear

[gray sand]

I was quoting Star Wars 😭

[verbal mist]

Ha ha, I know 😂

[silk token]

there are certain mods, I would absolutely install. Like if there was one that added longship variations with slightly different mats that had slightly tweaked specialties.

I know there’s a giant ships one, but they seem mostly visual or really weird

Like I just want a long ship with a slightly different fig head and it has five more storage slots, and another one with a different fake head and it goes 10% faster, that sort of thing

[gray sand]

Someone is going to add the wooden Leondardo Da Vinci flying machine I just know it...

[verbal mist]

Well, if they do, you just don’t use it as simple as that

[gray sand]

What I want is for the Karve to be faster. Because then I get this automatically.

Karve is very fast, but limited storage.
Longship hits the middle.
Drakkar is slow, but with maximum storage.

It's so simple and it's right there in vanilla if they change 1 thing 😭

[gray sand]

So where the debate gets "fun" is that mods are optional.
And modded stuff is optional.
But then people start declaring modded stuff should be forced into the base game with the argument "just don't use it"

Like... it being a mod already satisfies the "just don't use it" so why should said thing be forced into the base game?

[verbal mist]

Yeah, I agree. Some mods are crazy.. personally I just use them to increase the difficulty

[heady parcel]

Karve is fast already, and VERY agile compared to the others. Which is why I use it always when exploring.

[gray sand]

Last I checked the Longship is still the ship with the best top speed. Karve is just the best turning radius.

[heady parcel]

Longship is perfect, I just want to be able to decorate it with shields, sail patterns etc. Gief!

Drakkar is beyond stupid. Sure, it is big and built using some kinda carapace/marble mashup - but even the bloody freighters made of CONCRETE a few decades back were more manouverable than the Drakkar. Make the drakkar just slightly slower to turn than the longship and it would be okay. It is already too big and unwieldy to use in most areas close to the coast, making it that slow to turn only makes it the worst boat in the game, I'd rather use the raft tbh.

[silk token]

oh Sev i just remembered, I wanted to ask you because you’re the “block guy“, i’ve seen your big spreadsheet on IF you can block something, but I didn’t see or was too stupid to see in the math if there was something specific for stagger received when parrying. because even when you parry full damage you still get some stagger. is it something simple like 1/2 or 1/4 the stagger that it would be when you take damage to the face or is it some complex equation nonsense?

[gray sand]

README tab, under Mechanics. 5th line down.

[silk token]

yeah that works for me too

[silk token]

ok thanks lol ill try to find that… is it complicated math that can be simplified? im old and brain no work good any more

[gray sand]

No math at all 😄

Applicable damage after blocking is applied to the stagger meter

[silk token]

Wait but I can block the entire amount take no damage and I still get stagger so what do you mean?

[gray sand]

Block is a block.
Parry is just a block with a larger block armor number.

[heady parcel]

Taking stuff out of the oven is one of the most satisfying things in the gaming world

[gray sand]

Give example?

[silk token]

like… a troll swings at me, i parry with a bronze buckler block all damage but my stagger meter goes up halfway

so zero damage after parry then why stagger bar?

i assumed just from experience it was something like block is 1/2 the stagger and parry is 1/4, or thats what it looks like roughly

[heady parcel]

Fantasy description - your arm goes numb after deflecting a blow that would have turned your brain into mush, you need a few seconds to recover before you can parry another blow of that magnitude

[gray sand]

Troll Swing does 60
Bronze Buckler parry has 70 at max rank

Assuming 0 skill for ease of maths:
60/2 is not >= 70 so you use the second damage formula.

Dt = (0.25 * D^2) / ((1 + 0.005 * Bs) * Ba * Pb)

Dt = (0.25 * 60^2) / 70

Dt = 900 / 70

12.85 Stagger will be applied and then 12.85 damage goes against your worn armor, which may bottom it out to 0 actual damage taken.

[silk token]

or just you're knocked down

[silk token]

ok so it is some crazy stagger equation even if you block all damage. and you still take damage even when you technically just blocked all damage, that's weird

[heady parcel]

It's actually quite clever how it is constructed, but yeah it can be veeeery confusing

[gray sand]

There are 2 equations.
If you have higher armor or block armor you get the more punishing one.
If you're about to be absolutely slammed you get the nicer one.

Also on the README tab 😄

[silk token]

well that's nice of them at least lol... i feel like ive definitely felt that blocked a 2 star it hurts just enough to make me go OOOOOKAY not trying that again but im not dead either

omg i cant even look at that equation. is there a rough like..... if i say 60 damage fully parried, i take 12.8 damage. so what is that like 18%? is that roughly flat-ish curve for all damage? like if i fully blocked 100 damage it would be 18 damage?

no more like hang on come on brain. that's more like. 20, 22%

anyway, does that make sense? i know it's not exact im sure but roughly? for all damage amounts?

[gray sand]

No because 100^2 * 0.25 is 2500 then 2500 / 70 = 35.7

[silk token]

dang so it scales hard. ok but also food gets better so maybe it balances out assuming you're eating health food

[gray sand]

Food directly increases your stagger meter size.

[silk token]

right

[gray sand]

Also again, this is just what passes your shield. Then your worn armor comes in and knocks it down even further.

[silk token]

so like parrying 60 damage with roasted boar meat = same stagger parrying 1 star drauger eatign sausage meat maybe

wait but my armor can knock it down to nearly zero but i stil feel like my stagger bar fills significantly

[gray sand]

I am not making that sheet 😄

[gray sand]

Stagger from blocking is applied before damage hits your worn armor.

Also on the README tab 😄

[silk token]

oh so you mean additionally ot the equation we were just talking about right

no i got it i just misunderstood what you were saying

there's stagger from the parry itself via that crazy equation, and also if you just take damage that causes stagger seperately

[gray sand]

Under the "It is possible to succeed a block and still become staggered" blurb on the left side.

This happens when the stagger amount added from your block is low enough that it does not fail, but the damage passing through the block fills the meter after being weighed against your worn armor.

[silk token]

right

ok all that helps-ish, sort of answers my wonderings. cuz sometimes i look up "HOW much does a bersker do again?" to see if i can parry the damage, but that stagger equation is just nuts i'll never do that math it's just gonna be experience

like ill just remember i have these 2 health foods im good

[gray sand]

That's why the sheet automatically updates to the exact HP value you need to exceed 🙂

You just type in difficulty, shield, and skill level.

It does the rest.

And if you need to know how much HP you will have, I also maintain a Valheim Food sheet 😏

[wicked quarry]

Just unlocked the Shield Generator but cant find it anywhere to build it.

[silk token]

oh that's nuts.

[gray sand]

Have you not been on the sheet recently? 😄

I spent like 3 weeks writing that update so it is now automatic 😄

[silk token]

i've not, i saw some maths and i went "alright nevermind" because i have a fairly good working idea just from experience but wanted to know if there was a simple thing

[gray sand]

The simple thing is when you go to the Health Thresholds tab 😄

Where the sheet does all the work for you.

[silk token]

ill probably use it for rare occassions, especially since i just started a hard run and its been a minute i forget. like i can look up battleaxe and drauger elite or example and im surprised there's a prayer i can parry a 1 star elite if i have serpent foods

but that's good to know before holding my weapon out and saying please be gentle

[gray sand]

Yeah, it comes in handy on higher difficulties because it can very quickly show you things that are impossible to parry so you know just to dodge.

[silk token]

i even forget normal mode sometimes, like i parried a 2 star seeker for the first time in a whil and was like "oh.. that's it?" i barely got any stagger even

actually, getting trapped by 2 seeker soldiers in a tunnel and pummeled around like a pingpong ball made me go alright this is silly i'm switching back to hard. with the trinkets and parry stamina it's just.. i deserve to have died there, that's crazy.

[heady parcel]

That's the very thing I dislike about the higher difficulties, they change mechanics. I would prefer a difficulty setting that let me increase the number of mobs, and the chance of them beings starred - but where I could still expect the same behaviour out of those starred mobs. And, for example. allow hard modes to provide starred deathsquitos, lox, serpents etc...

[silk token]

i like hard because it's basically fighting all 1 star mobs, but i would prefer that the 2 star AKA THREEE STAR mobs didn't spawn cuz then its just kite and dodge to oblivion

when you delete game mechanics its less fun

[heady parcel]

See a two-star serpent rise above your boat, you might realise it is better to flee than to throw your harpoon at it

[silk token]

which you can honestly if you're with the wind, they're not that fast

[heady parcel]

Yeah. Also, small swarm of a two and one-star deathsquitos would be nightmare fuel

[silk token]

lol yeah imean deathsquitos are whatever, just dodge toward them they're so easy to avoid

[heady parcel]

A spawner in the swamp mass producing starred elite draugr...ugh. A two-star wraith would probably be hard to parry for a bronze geared character. and so on...

[heady parcel]

yeah, one at a time you have to be clumsy to be threatened - but when they come at you four at a time it becomes a lot less simple

[pliant radish]

Time to recruit local trolls

[silk token]

i one time lost my mind on a hardcore server and ran in a mosquito cloud for like 2 minutes straight them all trying to bite me and doing a little circle

this was before mistlands was out and i was at endgame for a couple weeks and had way more time to play, i jus tput on troll armor and tried to die

[gray sand]

I remember...
I remember when...
I remember when I LOST MY MIND! 🎶

[silk token]

yeah lol that wouldve been good music for it, i actually set it to flight of the bumble bee because of all the skeetos

[empty nest]

That is everything

[gray sand]

Except it isn't truly random because they are all pulled from the same master map 😏

[silk token]

i'm trying to decide between just going axes again... and instead doing hammers with eventually vile set with bracelet of the brave for so much blunt and pierce increase porcupine will be insane.

[tacit crystal]

I like the bracelets. I used them while using maces in Ashlands and the hp gain was nice.

[gray sand]

Axes were my love for the longest time.

I am now a spear man, but will immediately go back to axes if they switch the secondary to being a viking throw.

Alternatively if they reduce the windup on the very first battleaxe swing by like 0.1s I will immediately main those.

[tacit crystal]

Ngl that would be fun.

[silk token]

i gotta do spear as secondary cuz i dont use bows i need to attack drakes and gjalls. so im like spear axe or spear sword or spear hammer

if they made 1 hand axe throwable then i wouldnt even need a spear lol thatd be amazing

[gray sand]

Indeed.

[silk token]

I love the reward of timing the battleaxe swing, call me a sadist

[gray sand]

I understand it should be a slower weapon.
That very first attack is just barely too slow for me to use it though.

[silk token]

I think I only ever get hit because I know I can, eh let’s be real. I’m going to go axes again for hard… maybe for 1.0 I’ll do claws and hammer

[tacit crystal]

Nothing beats the feeling of jumping on groups of enemies with a big ax.

[silk token]

It’s tough because it also has added stagger and beautiful cleave, it needs to suck somehow, but yeah not really viable if you can’t get touched on very hard. is a pickle that I don’t think speeding up the swing doesn’t cause other problems.

[silk token]

I also kind of love just spamming it at an approaching ball of enemies and watching them get smacked back and mow down as they can’t even get close to me

[gray sand]

0.1s is that game-breaking? 😭

[silk token]

hehe you would really feel 0.1?

[gray sand]

Yes.