valheim-chat

[strong stirrup]

Def

[vagrant pasture]

I was using hashtag to comment into a pseudo code block, without knowing that was a forbidden character

[vocal rivet]

That'll only give you a timeout AFAIK.

And you can already type.

[vagrant pasture]

Yup, you're correct
The problem is... I retried to post "a couple" of times, without fixing the correct issue

[vocal rivet]

Yes, you have the No Suggestions role.

[vagrant pasture]

Maybe all those tries raised a notification for mods

[vocal rivet]

Not usually how you get that role, no. But just send a DM to @ModMail and check.

[vagrant pasture]

So they just muted me. I'd have done the same lol😂

[vagrant pasture]

Allright😎👍

[vocal rivet]

Better than pinging admin...

[open pecan]

Built Ferd Tough.

[near furnace]

And I ain't an admin either 😅

Don't need to be

[vocal rivet]

Fine, whatever you call yourself.

[open heath]

I hate cheaters that cheat blatantly. It’s day 2 of a new server, if you don’t wanna be caught then be more low-key about it. You used 3 forests worth of wood and never left the house. All that terrain modification… good thing the host backed up last night. 🤦‍♂️

[quasi latch]

Valheim's anticheat is powered by neural networks.
The neural networks that play the game, that is.

[light moat]

Cheaters that cheat discretely are even worse

[vocal rivet]

Don't play with people you don't know or trust.

[open heath]

you can't tell me what to do, you aren't my real dad

[vocal rivet]

🤷‍♂️ Up to you, just makes for a better experience.

[brazen linden]

If you think of the soft cap as the number of same tames within certain distance, I think many players are bypassing that.

[nocturne wolf]

It's hard to accidentally bypass though. If players are choosing to bypass it because they want that many tames, why stop them?

[vocal rivet]

That's why it's called a soft cap not a hard cap...

[brazen linden]

Not stopping them. Informing them of the potential consequences to the game performance.

[brazen linden]

It could be a vanilla code-based cap that I was not aware of.

[merry pebble]

They should be able to comprehend the cap is there for a reason...

[vocal rivet]

Of course it's vanilla.

[brazen linden]

Im not thinking of the distance cap

[vocal rivet]

Was anyone?

[brazen linden]

There are bunch of players complaining about the low performance / optimalization of the game, and have huge bases, lots of fire/lights, farms as large as a country, and number of animals that would envy any 3rd world country.

[vocal rivet]

No shit. Always have been.

[brazen linden]

Thats why I asked Smiffe

[merry pebble]

Yes?

And?

[vocal rivet]

The pain this conversation is causing.

[brazen linden]

I have no idea, you're the one commenting on my reply to Smiffe

[vocal rivet]

If you have no idea why you're saying something how are we supposed to?

[brazen linden]

Oh, I know, and Smiffe know, that's why I replied to his comment

[vocal rivet]

The one answering your question?

[brazen linden]

He hasn't replied to my statement.

[vocal rivet]

Was this not his reply?

[fossil delta]

The feathered cape just increases the fun factor of Valheim soooo much... at least in the Mistlands and the mountains.

[floral oxide]

be wary that it is VERY weak to fire, which you may find to be a huge detriment in the near future (or when fighting Gjall)

[merry pebble]

Fortunately we have a drink to help with that 😉

[nocturne wolf]

Barley wine overrides the weakness so you will be resistant while wearing the cape

[fossil delta]

Oh, I know the risks. Been there, done that... kind of thing.

[floral oxide]

I just would rather be careful not to take too much fall damage than waste the inventory slot carrying fire resist

[fossil delta]

I'm really good at avoiding the Gjalls aim in addition to the wine.

[nocturne wolf]

It's not just to avoid fall damage, you can jump further and keep yourself safe longer when dodging with a jump

[fossil delta]

The run and jump skills are the real life savers in Valheim.

[floral oxide]

I'm a parry extroadinaire, failing that I do the dodge-roll

[nocturne wolf]

Jumping is usually better than rolling

[floral oxide]

I would say that's your perspective, I get immunity during the roll - and I don't during the jump

[merry pebble]

Better stamina usage-wise

[nocturne wolf]

Jumping costs less stamina, doesn't lock your movement and allows you to perform another animation while safe from damage. It can also be used to avoid slowing yourself during animations such as attacking, drinking/eating and using your forsaken power.

[fossil delta]

Yeah, I stopped using both of those years ago. The game is easy enough just utilizing run, jump and wall shields. I didn't want it to be even easier.

[nocturne wolf]

With feather cape jumping might even keep you safe for longer against lower attacks. I'm not 100% sure about that though, I haven't tested it.

[fossil delta]

It makes it easier to break away and get to a better terrain situation, etc... especially in the Mistlands.

[nocturne wolf]

You can jump over enemies but not roll through them

[floral oxide]

rolling INTO them is very useful in the case of trolls and abominations though

[fossil delta]

I need to get better at the timing with the soldiers, but yeah, that helps too.

I actually do better with the soldiers without the cape, but that is probably due to simply having much more practice without a cape available. 😄

[near furnace]

not my problem tho. we have a soft-cap, and that's for a reason

[fossil delta]

I've stopped wolf breeding ever since you guys introduced the Hunt. I only needed to breed them when I ran server groups. For just my wife and I, or my solo runs, the Hunt provides plenty of meat. Like we have nearly 2 full wood chests right now, all due to Hunts.

Well, mostly. We still run into wolves when we go into the mountains.

[strong stirrup]

Bro I never get hunted 😭

Ive got hunted ONCE in the entirety of my 120~ hours

[fossil delta]

Yeah, we had a long dry spell this play through, where we almost did start breeding. Then they started occurring often enough.

[strong stirrup]

Lol I got almost purely ghost raids until we killed moder and the only one after that has been a swamp

[fossil delta]

My wife and I usually get close to 40 of them per hunt, if not over 40. So the Hunt keeps us well supplied. Especially now that we only make the Mountain Feast.

[light moat]

I pretty much just tame wolves to have some life at my base. They’re nice to keep around. They provide a little defense as well, of course. When they die, I just store the hide for decor and incinerate the meat/trophies.

[quasi latch]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-gif-5305267

[strong stirrup]

You know what else provides defence? Loxes.

[nocturne wolf]

And necks are nice to keep around

[quasi latch]

I personally use battleaxe for defense

[strong stirrup]

Necks?

[strong stirrup]

Lol me and my friend usually use mountain, sea and either meadows or black forest feasts for most of our diet

[fossil delta]

The chickens are providing plenty of life at our bases, currently. Don't need anything else. I haven't even repopulated our boar after the bats killed them. Not that we need them anymore either.

[strong stirrup]

Hm I actually never had chickens but apparently we find them in sealed towers and were exploring one tomorrow so waiting for that

[fossil delta]

We use plains and sea feasts now. along with whichever we want between a good HP or stamina food. When we are not in the Mistlands. We use our best foods, then.

[strong stirrup]

Mhm

Welp lets see when we find this damn yagluth

What are plains feasts made of

I assume lox but what else

[fossil delta]

Sailing is usually the best way to find him. We did find a wall first, this time.

Lox is the primary, yeah.

[strong stirrup]

Finally a use for the 3 stacks of it

Oh damn bread and lox pies thats easyyyy

[fossil delta]

Only 3 stacks? We keep a full wood chest. Lox are also great to kill for increasing your skills.

[strong stirrup]

Loll but well we never have focused killing loxes theyre just in the way of exploration sometimes

[fossil delta]

Yeah, we have an insane amount of barley flour.

[strong stirrup]

Lol

We only got 5 stacks but like 250 barley in chests and a ton in the Fields

[fossil delta]

We roam the plains primarily for two things now. Needles and lox meat. We have so much black metal my wife now puts it into our Obliterator. Pretty sure those do not become coal. 😄 We just already have a full iron, black metal, and wood chest. So no pressing need, at all.

[strong stirrup]

Yall just have a ton of everything

We have no iron and 3 stacks of smelted black metal

[fossil delta]

Yeah, we are good at stock piling mats. We do both have over a 1,000 hours in this game. I have over 4,000 due to solo play and running servers.

[strong stirrup]

Thats insane, we have like 120~ each rn

[steel mica]

Ive only been away for like a couple of weeks and my god looking at my bases feels like its not real, how did I even make this

[strong stirrup]

Lol

[fossil delta]

I played Valheim pretty much non stop for the first year. Helps that I have been retired since before the release of Valheim.

[strong stirrup]

I have the opposite of my base like it sucks so much but I love it anyway

We don't know how to build high we don't know how to build with stone we sure as hell don't know how to make cool looking roofs

[fossil delta]

Heh, when I visit my first world, and see how horrible I used to be at building....

[strong stirrup]

Lol

The best looking thing weve created is a silly little 2 pen sort of stable for loxes next to our base

The only thing we have used tar for

[fossil delta]

I don't bother with huge builds anymore. I just build what we need.

[strong stirrup]

Yeah

We basically only build small

Our base area is smaller than some peoples docks

[steel mica]

I enjoy the base building in this game you have full freedom to do what building styles you like

[fossil delta]

Its all you need. I just did the huge stuff to learn, and they were cool.

[steel mica]

you can stick to the true viking style and make viking longhouses

or make your own style

[fossil delta]

My biggest teacher was tearing down and rebuilding those draugr villages you can find in the meadows.

[strong stirrup]

Also I like the town aesthetic but...

[steel mica]

you play solo, I feel ya

[fossil delta]

Other players taught me a lot as well.

[strong stirrup]

Nah I play with a friend

[steel mica]

Oh you defintely learn alot just by looking at others buildings/creations

[strong stirrup]

But like its so much more difficult than expanding the base

[strong stirrup]

I don't like looking at #building-screenshots coz of the stuff there 😭

[fossil delta]

It was to the point where I was visiting their worlds. Edna is probably my biggest/most influential teacher, but Winter was as well.

Then there was Larsi, and others.

[steel mica]

If you dont mind I'd like to sponsor my base's kitchen ty very much :3 #building-screenshots message

[fossil delta]

Winter is now one of the Helpers. She has gone so far... 😄

[strong stirrup]

Bro my face when seeing that was literally 😮

[steel mica]

Visualizing other peoples works really is the best way of learning

and even better if they help you

[fossil delta]

Yeah, they were all a huge help in my learning.

[strong stirrup]

I could never, our kitchen is a small space partly under our smelting area with a small chest area and one of everything needed

[steel mica]

My main base is still far from completion but I still have another project to make

[steel mica]

If you could atleast keep the kitchen organized you'll are set

[strong stirrup]

I mean it is

Its really fast to use

[steel mica]

the most important thing about bases are organization and centralization

[nocturne wolf]

and a neck pond

[fossil delta]

I just make sure there are a lot of neck spawning near my base. Same with fish.

[strong stirrup]

Yeah, our base has everything connected to the (forgorword)

[steel mica]

With have neck at home

[strong stirrup]

And a largeish chest and portal room

[steel mica]

the asksvin

[fossil delta]

I have yet to do much learning with the Ashlands. I intend on changing that with this play through. I also have to decide how feasible attempting a zero death run will be once they finish Valheim. I'm starting to think my getting just to the Queen was my last one. The odds are just getting too long on being possible.

[strong stirrup]

Also do yall only have functional areas or also some extra places

[fossil delta]

I'm all about just what we need anymore.

[steel mica]

You'll be needing extra bases later on but making a full on base is not needed just making an area for processing materials

[strong stirrup]

I mean in your base is it only functional rooms or do you have other extra unneeded spaces

Coz we have a second floor that only has beds and a throne room with armor sets starting from bronze

But first floor is only functional

[fossil delta]

I haven't even made a Mistlands base this time. Just took over Dvergr tower, and I don't even really use it for anything other than a safe spot for a portal. Our Mistlands farms are on Plains borders. So we grow crops and get all the hare that the squittos, Lox and fulings kill for us.

[strong stirrup]

We use plant everything coz we wanted berries so none of that for us

Also we don't have any mob farms

[fossil delta]

Yeah, I haven't done any this time either.

[strong stirrup]

Would have liked a surtling one but we never found their spawn

So were surviving off of dungeon surtling cores

[steel mica]

I mainly have a 2 story house with like 6 rooms 3 on each floor

[strong stirrup]

Yeah, we have the 2 on top and 5 on bottom

[fossil delta]

Oh, yeah, we have done 4 or 5 surtling spawners. I forget those count, since we no longer kill them. 😄

[strong stirrup]

Lol

[steel mica]

first floor is the kitchen, dining room, and crafting area, second floor is bedroom armory, and the storage room is located 2nd floor but only accesable through the crafting area via staircase

[steel mica]

I would be on my knees for multiple surtling spawners

[fossil delta]

I just do two floors, both completely open. Just designated areas for the various benches.

[strong stirrup]

First floor for us is: kitchen, chest room, mead room, portal room and the lobby that you use to get to the second floor

[fossil delta]

It was harder to find swamps that even had them this time, let alone 2. I don't think we have a single swamp with 3 or more this time.

[strong stirrup]

I would kill for even a single one we barely can afford portals anymore :(

[steel mica]

I still love the padded armor

dont get me wrong the later armors are nice aswell

[fossil delta]

We like to fully explore our worlds, so we do have the option of clearing out tons of Black Forest tombs, but spawners do make it a lot easier. Even though they drop far fewer cores now as well. Its a good run if I get one or two per spawner. We nearly had a party the time I got 4 at one spot. Get a trophy? Party time!

[steel mica]

but just the appearance of the padded armor is so nice

[brazen linden]

I that why I said that too many can impact performance, IF they was bypassing the soft cap, unknowing of the consequenses.

[fossil delta]

I like all the armors for one reason or another. I like the bronze just because of how goofy it looks.

The root armor because it just looks wicked.

[livid grove]

My bonemass swamp has 3 within a short distance from each other. It was very nice lol, but i haven't found a 4th spawn on the map yet

[fossil delta]

Yeah, I have had very surtling rich swamps in previous worlds. They just seem much harder to find in the new world.

[plush umbra]

28* tamed wolves in 1 base running around lmfao, they tryna climb each other to get over the walls whenever hostile mobs are nearby

[vocal rivet]

28 starred? That's a beefy boy.

[fossil delta]

Sounds about right. When I do breed the wolves, I no longer have them inside our base, I put them in their own pen close enough to still breed, but far enough away to not be a pain.

It was surprising to "see" just how far away that is.

[near furnace]

it's pretty effective if you live on a large island

and just let your 2 star wolfs run around and kill all boar and deer

so much free stuff

[fossil delta]

Your nightly skeletons do that for me already.

Now I have the fulings helping too.

Plus we build close to a Black Forest. So now the fulings are helping a LOT with getting a lot of those mats.

Should i talk about our plains farm along the border of a swamp, and how much those extra fulings help there as well?

Goblins are so very helpful when given proper direction.

For those of you with wolf meat shortages, beat Yag and have a base in the mountains. Spend your nights there. The fulings will kill a lot for you there as well.

[fading schooner]

@near furnace What is a soft cap?

[vocal rivet]

Why are we pinging devs at 2am?

[fading schooner]

It's 8am

[vocal rivet]

Not for Smiffe.

[fading schooner]

I assumed people would have notifications muted if they're resting.

[light moat]

A soft cap is basically a developer putting some sort of restriction on progression, typical as a deterrent to progress until a particular challenge is overcome.

The bosses are more or less soft locks; challenges to overcome before moving on to the next biome.

[fading schooner]

Thank you. 🙂 Why is a soft cap in relation to animals breeding mentioned? Do you know, please?

I'm thinking maybe they mean the breeding limit within a certain size area?

[light moat]

No problem! Could you elaborate a little? Like, are you asking why they limit the breeding of tames in a given area?

[fading schooner]

I was reading people discussing having a load of wolves at their base, then someone commented it will cause issues in the game, someone else spoke of soft caps. It was a little confusing.

[vocal rivet]

Oh no, not this conversation again. It was bad enough last time.

[fading schooner]

I've often tamed and bred a couple dozen wolves and I hadn't noticed any issues. I want to understand the situation.

[vocal rivet]

If you've never had an issue, it's not massively important. There's a maximum number of mobs you can have in a zone but you can exceed it if you try hard enough.

[fading schooner]

Why is the maximum put there?

[vocal rivet]

For the reason that was mentioned at the beginning of the conversation 🤦‍♂️

[fading schooner]

Obviously I've missed some bits. Please explain.

[vocal rivet]

You did, it was a conversation you weren't involved in. About 8 hours ago.

Too many of anything will cause performance issues.

[fading schooner]

Thank you. That's all I was wanting to know. So, a soft cap is also to prevent performance issues. Got it.

[vocal rivet]

On this specific occasion, yes.

Sometimes it can be for balancing issues.

TMD was talking about soft locks which are actually different things.

[fading schooner]

I find coding and game dev interesting but I'm very uninformed. I enjoy finding out some basic things.

I know so many people suggest ideas to add into games but I know that it's often never as simple as it sounds.

[fading schooner]

Ah, I get that now.

[light moat]

My bad, I was talking about a different term (like Derek said, a soft lock)

[fading schooner]

Can I please ask another silly question - this time about gameplay. Why are some people saying they always want a neck pond near their base? I use neck meat early game and for wolf taming, but not much else.

[open pecan]

Because they are kawaii.

[fading schooner]

Good point

[vocal rivet]

I think that's just a meme to be honest. That and they're kinda cute.

[light moat]

People just think they’re cute/cool, they’re kinda iconic to Valheim too. Some might call them the mascot of Valheim.

[fading schooner]

Hmmm

I like having wolves around. Maybe it's the "dog" effect.

[light moat]

#building-screenshots message @vocal rivet I might be wrong, but are those beams at inaccessible angles maybe? 🤔

[fading schooner]

And lox for the cuddles

[light moat]

Or perhaps the chains?

[nocturne wolf]

Because we love having necks around the base

Other vikings might stop halfway along the playthrough but the necks are always there for you

[fading schooner]

And trying to bite your ankles

[shy marlin]

Chains make me raise an eyebrow but it coudl be vanilla with some dev commands

And stability

[nocturne wolf]

Look at the angles of those beams in the background

[light moat]

🕵️

[shy marlin]

ye

[nocturne wolf]

Just try not to have too much of them

[light moat]

Yeah, be careful of having… you know…

Too much dog…

[sullen sluice]

You think I can hack Valheim onto my phone and cast to a TV? Doubt it but my phone has 11GB RAM compared to my 4GB Laptop lol.

[light moat]

I’m no expert, but I’m doubtful 😂

[fossil delta]

I am doubtful too, plus that is out of any area of knowledge I have. Want to build a new PC? Sure, I can help. Doing something on the software side of it? Not nearly so helpful.

[dark coyote]

are you on console?

[shy marlin]

😔 no buffs + no skills fader kickin my ass really don't think it's doable

was at 25% for 10 minutes just competing with his passive regen

[light moat]

Brutal 😭

[unreal pike]

suprised we ddidnt get a july dev update, was hoping to see a new hervor bloodtooth video

[shy marlin]

Honestly i'm glad there wasn't

Brings me physical pain seeing someone using the worst mistlands weapon in the final biome

[vocal rivet]

No blogs in July. Vacation time.

[fossil delta]

I've said it before, and I'll say it again, the element of fun goes way up with the feathered cape. Kudos to whomever came up with the idea.

[chrome badge]

To chop wood, which it's the best at currently.

[shy marlin]

Now that's not even true

Berserker axes are better

And if multiple targets use special on berserker axes or crystal battle axe

[chrome badge]

That's a different class and is less flexible where chopping wood is concerned imo

[shy marlin]

No, berserker axes have no problem chopping wood and are OBJECTIVELY better

[chrome badge]

I wouldn't use them for chopping wood personally, I like to have a parry option, especially around ranged enemies

That's why I mentioned flexibility

[shy marlin]

If you're talking flexibility berserker axes still win

Better weapon and better tree chopper

And you can parry with berserker axes on normal just fine

[chrome badge]

You can disagree all you like, it doesn't really matter, saying it's the worst mistlands weapon when it's still the 2nd best axe for chopping wood given your opinion is still strange.

[shy marlin]

huh

It is undeniably the worst mistlands weapon

[chrome badge]

Saying it's the worst mistlands weapon, but it's still the 2nd best for chopping wood(what it's used for in the teaser) is strange to me.

[shy marlin]

There's a difference between a weapon and a tool

And show me the exact place where she used it as a tree chopper please

[chrome badge]

Okay so why did you classify it as a weapon if you're adamant it's being used as a tool.

[shy marlin]

I want the source on where she used it as a tool

[chrome badge]

https://youtu.be/1c5ZIb38ijU?si=TFJ5iq8dNJSIDhQ0&t=5

[shy marlin]

Berserker axes are still a better wood cutting tool

So it's still an incredibly odd choice

[chrome badge]

It's really not, utilizing 1h axes is a grandfathered in option, it's just easier to pull out a shield with it to deal with larger hits, especially on harder difficulties

[shy marlin]

Nah

[chrome badge]

It's just what the game's presented the player for every biomes until Ashlands

[shy marlin]

I myself am very experienced with valheims combat mechanics, and I associate myself with others who are also very good at the game, and not a single one of us would ever agree that that statement is true

[shy marlin]

@light snow

[chrome badge]

Yikes alright chief don't need the resume

[shy marlin]

Big dog you're making a statement about combat mechanics that's just untrue

[light snow]

Crystal battleaxe superior for chopping trees with no hit penalty, no?

[chrome badge]

Just letting you know a different perspective and attempt suggesting that there's maybe another reason they're carrying it in the teaser.

[shy marlin]

And you're presenting information that's just wrong and assuming that it's a fact

[chrome badge]

What? I linked you the video and told you that players are liekly more comfortable with a 1h axe, what is untrue?

[shy marlin]

It's really not, utilizing 1h axes is a grandfathered in option, it's just easier to pull out a shield with it to deal with larger hits, especially on harder difficulties

[chrome badge]

You really aren't so good at taking opinions.

[light snow]

Black metal axe is fine in mists, replace with bzrk axes later, jotun bane doesnt really achieve anything other axes dont already do. Imo its a waste of mats. And poison dmg is awful for ashlands hence its a weak mistlands wep.

[shy marlin]

Your opinions are based on misinformation

But you're also the guy that doesn't know what a comparison is so idk why i'm bothering

[chrome badge]

What? Where's the other 2h axes, and was the video I linked fake?

[shy marlin]

Again, this

[light snow]

To be honest on higher difficulties you shouldnt be pulling out a shield at all, you arent blocking or parrying shite on vhard

Or even hard mode ashlands for that matter

Everything does 200-300dmg

[chrome badge]

I don't know how complicated it could be to understand that not everything is approached from an overarching meta sense, some players just use what's comfortable, and familiar.

[shy marlin]

But then don't make comments about it working on a harder difficulty when it very clearly doesn't

[light snow]

You can do whatever you want im providing an opinion

[near furnace]

The axe choosen for the video is 99% for looks 😅

[chrome badge]

I was using that in the pulling out a shield example.

[chrome badge]

There ya go, asthetics are king.

[near furnace]

And 1% chance. The character came with that axe already when it was used previously somewhere 😅

[shy marlin]

Which doesn't work on the harder difficulties and you cited that it did "It's really not, utilizing 1h axes is a grandfathered in option, it's just easier to pull out a shield with it to deal with larger hits, especially on harder difficulties"

[light snow]

I dont think he plays on very hard

[chrome badge]

Harder difficulties is speaking broadly, the immediate jump to what isn't possible to prove a point is tiresome.

Being humble is tricky sometimes when you build yourself up I suppose.

[light snow]

Well as i said hardmode is pretty sketch for blocking on higher biomes anyway

[shy marlin]

It's egotistical to state a fact and then provide your sources for it ig 😎 🤙

[light snow]

No ones building anything up im stating opinions backed by factual information and figures

[shy marlin]

So what exactly do you mean by harder difficulties then, if not hard and very hard?

[chrome badge]

I do mean hard and very hard, there are certainly enemies that can be blocked, but you're definitely just citing ones that can't be.

[light snow]

You mean boars and greydwarves? Or enemies relevant to jotuns bane?

[chrome badge]

That was just in reference to the laundry list of qualifications I got earlier after presenting some reasons why players might opt into using the 1h option.

[shy marlin]

Laundry list

[chrome badge]

Night spawns can very, and being able to pull a shield is just a comforting option for players used to having it.

An additional 10 chop damage isn't worth that trade.

[light snow]

Lox, seekers, ashlands mobs all impossible to block can only be parried by carapace buckler lvl 3 with high health

On very hard

[chrome badge]

Right, but there are varying situations, if I'm collecting wood around my base and a bundle of skeletons hears me hitting trees and two loose arrows, it will be handy to have my shield at the ready. It gets so silly to speak to Scales when the only situation they simulate is some self important speed run.

[shy marlin]

????

Berserker axes would just be objectively better in that scenario

and whenever i'm talking about balance or w/e, I do not think about my playstyle or any challenge run that I do

[chrome badge]

You just hammer down on what's objectively better immediately, and don't hear out any reasoning beyond that.

There he goes again. 😂

[shy marlin]

What's wrong with facts?

[light snow]

Why would you parry/block skeletons when you have mistlands gear

[shy marlin]

You can do what you like idc but facts are facts

[chrome badge]

What players enjoy using is also relatively factual.

[shy marlin]

Not at all it's subjective

"What players enjoy" is inherently subjective, because enjoyment is a feeling or preference, and that varies from person to person.

[chrome badge]

It's also subjective, but the point Im making is that players know for a fact what they would prefer to use and why.

Objective statistics play little role in that.

[chrome badge]

On Very Hard they can catch you chopping wood outside your base while utilizing lower tier food so as not to waste the good food.

That can still do some decent damage, enough for a stray enemy with some real power to take advantage of.

[shy marlin]

I like how we shifted the goalposts from chopping wood in the deep north to chopping wood in the meadows

[chrome badge]

The example was to help you see why utilizing a flexibile and familiar option is choice in some situations, and carries through.

[shy marlin]

Doesn't carry through on the harder difficulties though 🙃

[chrome badge]

You're just failing to see that, I'm likely wasting my time.

[light snow]

Yeah man those spooky skeletons

Cant handle them in carapace gear for sure

[shy marlin]

Swap to the tower shield bro 😎

Better yet have 50 wolves around you while farming wood

[chrome badge]

Again, if you're just rocking around with some berries and mushrooms to stay economic, night spawns can still do some damage, especially in higher difficulties.

[light snow]

Just eat cooked seeker meat / feasts for economic options??

[shy marlin]

Yea feasts by design are literally made for base activities idk

[light snow]

Why would you run around on 2 berries at night on vhard

[chrome badge]

Because I'm comfortable with a shield and 1h axe and can easily handle it.

[light snow]

Id be more afraid of night fulings 1 tapping you

[chrome badge]

That's just it, you hear that little giggle and get ready to parry a thrown spear.

[light snow]

Ur like the guy thatd refuse a business class upgrade if it was offered at 99 cents

[chrome badge]

Nothing too tricky about wanting a 1h and shield option for that situation.

[shy marlin]

Aren't night spawn fulings quiet anyways? They spawn alerted immediately

[chrome badge]

I mean, why wouldn't you stretch the limits of what's necessary if you're comfortable.

[shy marlin]

lol

[robust delta]

what is going on
is this a talk about cutting trees?

[chrome badge]

Just explaining how 2h berserker axes aren't automatically a better option for players because they're statistically better.

Chopping wood is part of that discussion.

1h axes are utilized throughout the game, and offer flexibility with shielding, that's my take.

[fossil delta]

I realized years ago to not discuss/debate play styles. My goal has always been to never die. Since I still die even on standard, I haven't even considered changing difficulties. Sure, I have solo'd all the way to the Queen without dying, but I have also played this game with dozens, if not a over a hundred, other people. So I know I do not play much like everyone else. No one has a set of "best practices" like I do, etc... So I literally do not care much about what other people do or think, to be blunt about it. I do it all my way. When you get down to it, that is how everyone plays. Their way. However they decide "that" is. So I just say my piece, and move on.

Good night.

(Its nearly 1 AM for me.)

[shy marlin]

Well I learned today that I should be using mushrooms and berries for base activities rather than feasts

[robust delta]

ey that's fair.
i don't care about axes so i'd probably just swap off of them to my other weapon when combat ensues unless it's a mob that i could just dominate, so flexibility don't matter much to me. for statistics tho i would probably rid of my jotun bane for a berserkir axe

it's been so long since i've touched berserkir axes. when i get back up to them i can't wait to enjoy the euphoria

[robust delta]

why

[shy marlin]

Because I'm comfortable with a shield and 1h axe and can easily handle it.

[robust delta]

that's cool i suppose

[chrome badge]

Cheers, thanks for the refreshing understanding of another point of view. 🤘

[robust delta]

i only just dabbled with feasts so idk about efficiency but feasts last for a while and im semi lazy

[chrome badge]

I use berries and mushrooms mostly because a parameter for a main base spot I follow is to encapsulate large patches of berries and mushrooms nearby eachother.

So I'm typically overflowing with them passively.

[robust delta]

idk how mushrooms spawn so i use 'em if i have like more than 20

[shy marlin]

Yea and using 2 or three food slots to accomplish what 1 food slot can do is hip and cool

[chrome badge]

I don't carry them around, I have stockpile barrels positioned around each gate and at some choice watchtowers outside my bases.

[robust delta]

that and since it lasts for a while it takes longer for its stat to wear down over time.
you will be drawn out longer out of your peak performance tho but i think a drawn out line is better than burst spikes
but with enough stamina it doesn't matter anyways lol

[chrome badge]

I agree, but in the case of 15m foods, the replenish option to refresh peak stats is virtually always present.

[shy marlin]

Peak stats of like 70 hp and 100 stam 😎

[robust delta]

the real secret to tree farming is using trolls 💪

[chrome badge]

Haters gonna hate I guess.

[shy marlin]

Oh I’m not hating

It’s better than 25 hp and 50 stam

[chrome badge]

Ah, it seems like you are.

[robust delta]

this is just a simple agree to disagree and move on

[chrome badge]

Scales isn't so good at that, they even brought up our last disagreement. 😅

[robust delta]

...to the new meta of tree farming. which is trolls

[chrome badge]

Best to just move along.

[chrome badge]

The real best axe, a staff.

[robust delta]

i was thinkin' a regular troll, but the staff of axe cutting is probably something that could happen in-game universe

i wonder if there's an axe that worked like a shovel

where you just thrust poke till the tree falls. probably some magic voo-doo nonsense could wrk there

[chrome badge]

Oh, I almost spoiled something potentially.

[robust delta]

naw ik what ur talkin' about, but tbh i think trolls are tired of mining copper ores and want something new

[chrome badge]

Oh okay good I was worried

[robust delta]

soon there shall be some troll lumbering business

[chrome badge]

Not a terrible idea, it's a shame all they want is that cave life

Collect shiny, and return to hole in ground

[robust delta]

i've always found it cute how in the higher biomes trolls just about tickle you cuz of obv high armor and such
would be funny if trolls did a % of ur health as damage to make them live up to their scary size lol

[chrome badge]

They should operate like the hulk, and their damage increases slowly if they aren't hitting above 20 damage

bullying a troll until they're steaming from anger and actually start doing damage

[tacit crystal]

She chopped wood in 4th video.

[shy marlin]

Ye he pointed that out

[robust delta]

there's gotta be steam coming out the ear

[tacit crystal]

Crashing out late from night sleep. 😅

[shy marlin]

Dyrnwyn reminder

[near furnace]

old or new?

[shy marlin]

New

[near furnace]

🥲

I thought you where teamOG dyrnwyn

[shy marlin]

It’s a reminder of 10 fire dmg (current dyrnwyn) vs 15 fire dmg (torch)

But I do prefer old

[tacit crystal]

10 fire dmg would be fine IMO if the new Dyrnwyn had some special fiery effect that could proc when hitting enemies, similarly to jade/iolite variant weapons.

Jade weapons have additional 10 poison and iolite weapons have 10 lightning.

Dyrnwyn following the same pattern, thus having 10 fire damage.

But I wouldn't mind if it was changed to have same total damage, but more fire damage and less slash.

[shy marlin]

Ye I could go both ways

Secondary affect or higher base dmg would be cool

[tacit crystal]

Fiery AoE wave similar to the fire attack of Brenna would be pretty cool.

[tidal apex]

2 months no news? Am i missing something?

[nocturne wolf]

The developers took a break last month

[tacit crystal]

Probably at one point on August we get the next Word from devs blog post, follow https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1202150165449035816 channel so you get the notification when it happens.

[merry pebble]

1 month and its because devs were on vacation, so not much to talk about 🙂

• we never had any guarantee that every month will have devblog/word from the devs.

[lofty scaffold]

No iron gate just does nothing

[keen trench]

Iron Gate is made of regular human beings that like most of people go on vacation in summer.
I understand the game is so good people can mistake them for semi-godly-beings, but nope, good old flesh and bones

[merry pebble]

I do think they were trying to make a joke 🙂
But what Vinny said is true 😄

[keen trench]

Oh i apologize in that case 🙏🏽(actual mean comments about that happen quite often so i thought it was serious)

[fading schooner]

I keep forgetting to look for rocky

That emoji reminded me. Again.

[merry pebble]

He is a sneaky little guy

[fading schooner]

I need an ingame alert that screams "ROCKY" every half hour

[merry pebble]

Just set few alarms on your phone 😄

[fading schooner]

Might not be a bad idea

[keen trench]

Yeh i don't like turning off grass (just for esthetics) so it's quite hard for me

(found a couple on a dedicated search run with grass off)

[fading schooner]

I watched an interesting video about where to look that will hopefully be useful. I'm not in a rush. I just get distracted easily.

I don't want to turn grass off. The scenery is too beautiful.

[keen trench]

I found both in black forest, and both under something (bushes, small trees)

[fading schooner]

I remember it's a slightly larger rock, in forest, not as low as the ocean.

[merry pebble]

Yep, higher than 5m above the sea level and lower than 20m, has to be further than 1000m from world center and your best bet are meadows and black forest 🙂

[keen trench]

Yup has a minimum height of 5 meters above sea, big smoother, lighter in colour (a pinch darker than flint) and vaguely triangular shape

[fading schooner]

Hey did YOU make that video?!

[merry pebble]

Nope 😄 i dont make videos

it can also technically be in swamp and mountains, but usually the height requirement prevents that

[fading schooner]

Had forgotten the 1000m from world centre.

I'm going searching right now!

[keen trench]

Yup, oh ofc it has to be an unexplored area (or explored after the April update)

[nocturne wolf]

Not sure if I was the first but I shared this information on the day rocky released. I didn’t make the video though.

#valheim-chat message

[merry pebble]

I think you were the first to share it, at least here on discord anyway 😄

[keen trench]

Yup, remember that day very well (also thanks to haldor's and deer king sillyness)

[sullen sluice]

I just had a Troll help me kill a Lox lol, Troll got destroyed.

[tacit crystal]

The grass cannot be turned off anymore, just having less grass nowadays with the lowest setting.

[merry pebble]

Still helps searching 😄

[keen trench]

Yup regular trolls hardly stand a chance agains the big furries

[tacit crystal]

It does, I still keep it at the lowest.

[sullen sluice]

Gave me the extra dps I needed, cause that Lox half shot me at first

[keen trench]

Yeh, i did it once just for rocky, it ruins bf looks too much 🏞️

[fading schooner]

Can I not post a pic here?

I found Rocky!

[nocturne wolf]

#screenshots

[fading schooner]

Ah well.

[keen trench]

You can post in screenshot and link that in your message here

[fading schooner]

I can't be bothered 😄 But I'm happy I have my lil buddy now. A step up from Wilson

[open pecan]

Nice work.

[fading schooner]

ty. Now to get him home and settled in. I'm glad it didn't take too long.

You realise that EAT server tag gets me thinking of food stuffs every time I notice it.

[open pecan]

JOIN US

[fading schooner]

one of us, one of us, one of us

Just so happens there's some dark choc right next to me

[open pecan]

That'll do the trick.

[fading schooner]

Pity there's no chocolate in Valheim

[open pecan]

What biome would it be introduced you think?

I hope Mountains/Deep North since I like to keep my chocolate in the fridge.

[fading schooner]

Deep North will have to be it but technically it might grow well in plains maybe?

Warm weather

[open pecan]

Oh so you'd have to grow the cacao.

[fading schooner]

Wait - Bog Hag

[open pecan]

Yeah that grandma defo has a chocolate stash.

[merry pebble]

[keen trench]

@hexed kite #memes-and-clips message sorry for ping but can't reply on media channel, i'm following the Queen thing with much interest and i have a theoury myself, could the actual eyes be the blue-grayish ones? bigger, further back on the head and under the "brow" ridge, basically where the fangs generate? just a thought i will surely enjoy your rendition anyway.

[nocturne wolf]

Just found a natural maypole for the first time

[strong stirrup]

Sick

[shy marlin]

in how many hours?

[nocturne wolf]

I can't get an exact amount because I had a lot of hours on xbox before I bought Valheim on steam and some games don't show playtime there. I have 447 hours on steam and probably somewhere between 400-600 hours on xbox based on the day count of my worlds there.

[fossil delta]

They are pretty rare. I think the most I have ever seen a world have is 7? Not one of my worlds, but another world posted about in these forums. I think it was one of Edna's worlds.

[tacit crystal]

Now the question is, have you found more natural s or maypoles?

[nocturne wolf]

I haven’t found rocky yet

[fossil delta]

He is not easy. It is just a slightly different looking rock.

[tacit crystal]

He is one smooth rock.

[merry pebble]

[tacit crystal]

Most of my rocks I've found in black forest, one was in meadows.

[warped willow]

Dumb question, buuut, are we getting a whole animation line of valheim in style of the release trailers?
I mean they look awesome and it would be a really cool mini series :)

[merry pebble]

I assume there will likely be animated trailer for deep north as there was one for each mistlands and ashlands. 🙂

[warped willow]

I think so too, but i mean a whole series would be beautyful, where we follow the way of the 3 adventurers

[merry pebble]

I dont think there will be anything like that, and we have no info that would indicate otherwise 🤔

[tacit crystal]

1st Infested mine in my current world and I can hear Queen's voices.

[merry pebble]

Like through the walls? 👀

[tacit crystal]

Yes.

[merry pebble]

Welp, no vegvisir needed it seems 😄

[tacit crystal]

Yeah, went outside and the entrance is straight away in sight.

[upbeat crypt]

Hugin now has a merchant hint when you hit the BF?

[merry pebble]

He always had 🙂

Tho it was changed a bit to include mention of Hildir i believe 🙂

[tacit crystal]

I think it was added when Hildir patch came.

Don't recall Hugin hinting about Haldor before.

[merry pebble]

Ah, you might be correct, i was misremembering 😄

[tacit crystal]

I misremember things too.

[upbeat crypt]

yeah it cant have been at lauch, I logged into my 2020 character and it was the only hugin I got in meadows + BF

[merry pebble]

I would have swear i got some hint about Haldor before Hildir update but i can see that this Hugin line was added around the same time Hildir was 🙂

Probably just my memory playing tricks on me again

[jolly hornet]

Any hint for starters? I just opened the game for the first time

[merry pebble]

When we are on that topic, listen to the bird :D, also pick everything and try to always have all 3 food slots filled, also its good for it to be different types of food (for example 2 health foods and 1 stamina food or the other way around)🙂

[jolly hornet]

Alright, thank you!

[quick flare]

i everyone hopeyou are all well 🙂 Am i to late to star valeim? Many Thanks

[merry pebble]

There is no way to be "late" 😄

[upbeat crypt]

for solo play it's never late, but if you're talking about playing with people or friends it's rough now. I guess the 1.0 release will change that (for a few months) again when it comes.

[merry pebble]

I dont think playing with friends would be in any way affected by the date/time, you can always convince them since they are your friends. Only playing with random people which is usually meh anyway... 🙂

[upbeat crypt]

" you can always convince them"

Oh boy, if only that were true

[merry pebble]

Might have said "...try to convince them" xD

[upbeat crypt]

due to the long term way the game works it's strictly BYOG to play together.

[hexed kite]

Nah I’m happy for the ping, it’s a shame there’s no discussion in the media channels but I get it.

That’s a good theory, and now I have MORE options, lol. this illustration has been all consuming during my free time, we’ll see how it turns out! I haven’t done a piece this big in years 😅

[jolly hornet]

Sadly, the only person that I know Who owns the game is my uncle, but I'm playing through his game using steam family

[keen trench]

yo nice! definitely looking forward to see that! and thanks for your fanart in general 🎨

[upbeat crypt]

damn my nephew aint getting access to my library

[hexed kite]

I appreciate the engagement! It’s been pretty fun tbh. I should consider posting my art online at some point though, I’m such a hermit

[light moat]

I’ve also been keeping an eye on your stuff, it’s really neat!

[jolly hornet]

This game is incredible

🥹

Does it take too long to get a pickaxe?

[fossil delta]

Depends on how long it takes you to beat the first biome "boss". Remember to listen to the bird, and refer to the log.

[jolly hornet]

Is a flint axe enough for the boss?

[fossil delta]

Among other things. You want to learn the best foods you can make for the biome. Armor helps, shields can help as well.

Best piece of advice? Do not rush. Take your time. Your only new to this once.

So enjoy it as much as possible the first time.

[strong stirrup]

frr

[jolly hornet]

I'm trying to find more boars

[brazen linden]

I would suggest to build up your character properly, then go after the next boss. Its better to spend a few hours to level up the character, then to die a bunch of times in a boss-fight, loosing twice the hours worth of level. That you have to grind for all over again.

[fossil delta]

They tend to spawn in the same areas, so remember where you find them, same for deer. You can tame boars, so when you find a starred boar, tame it.

Boar are the only thing you can tame early in the game.

Also, touch everything, and make everything at least once.

[jolly hornet]

Thank you for the tips guys 🔥

[fossil delta]

Have fun.

[jolly hornet]

I'll play more later, I'm going to a family dinner(the uncle that gave me the game will be there, I'll talk to him about it)

[opal prairie]

Especially the grass.

[grave radish]

hi, anyone know why the devs have been so quiet since june?

[shy marlin]

they have summer vacation

[tacit crystal]

July is usually the "vacation month" in Nordic countries where people have opportunity to take 4 week leave for vacation, which means that we didn't get Word from devs blog post during July, but very likely we might get the next during August.

[grave radish]

i forgot its only august still😂

[merry pebble]

It just started my friend 😆

[tacit crystal]

Already August.

[steel mica]

Time do be moving fast

well it feels like it

[pliant hatch]

@merry pebble , @tacit crystal You folks remember things? 😮

-# sorry, couldn't resist

[merry pebble]

And who are you? 🤔
-# ||Hehe 😛 ||

[pliant hatch]

Well.....

(I should shout this, but better not, I think)

**I'm Thorin, son of Thrain, son of Thror, King under the Mountain.

I have returned!**

Somehow I think that quote should be better in a game called ValDale or Daleheim, I think.
🤔

[whole silo]

do you know bilbo swaggins?

[neat matrix]

shut up @whole silo

[pliant hatch]

I do know Hammy the Boar, the Princess of the Dawn, the Man on the Silver Mountain and some War Pigs. Does that count?

[quasi latch]

Bilbo Swaggins could melt the One Ring by rubbing two ice cubes together.

[storm cove]

I play on a server where qol mods are allowed but I don't know any trusted sites to download them from and what ones I can get without everyone on the server also needing to get it

Any help appreciated

[pliant hatch]

I think the best place to ask for that is in https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1202934289898151966

[merry pebble]

@chilly tusk Indeed it was wrong channel since it included modded content so you were correct, hence I removed it 😉

[chilly tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/the-craft-fairuza-balk-nancy-downs-bravo-clap-gif-17800056

[merry pebble]

-# Unless you have a green, red, or purple name you cant embed stuff 😉

[light moat]

What did you remove? 🤔

[merry pebble]

A screenshot of Hrothgars screenshot where i showed the symmetry 🙂

[light moat]

Ahh gotcha!

On a side note, it’s about that time isn’t it? 👀 || 🧙‍♀️ ||

[merry pebble]

Hmm?

[chilly tusk]

That whole building is not symmetrical.

You've shown nothing.

[light moat]

You’re usually asleep around this time, but we’ve been referring to this time specifically as the Valheim witching hour

[merry pebble]

...

[merry pebble]

Aaaah, gotcha 😄

[pliant hatch]

whispers

You've shown nothing, Asatru Snow.

[chilly tusk]

If that building were symmetrical, it'd look the exact same from every side, not just two. 😉

[merry pebble]

That is not how symmetry works 😉

[chilly tusk]

When building is concerned, it actually is.

[merry pebble]

There are at least 2 lines of symmetry there

[chilly tusk]

Only two lines of symmetry on a six sided building.

All sides should be proportioned identically in order for the building to be considered symmetrical.

😉

[light moat]

I don’t know, seems pretty symmetrical to me 🤔

[merry pebble]

Well, if you want to believe that i will not try to explain anymore 😄

[chilly tusk]

Yeah, you really shouldn't bother since you don't know what you're talking about.

[livid zenith]

It doesn’t look symmetrical in the image. I’m loading into the game right now to check

[merry pebble]

Just look at it in a bit of an angle 🙂

[light moat]

Oh wait, maybe I’m seeing it now? It’s kinda hard to make out lol

[merry pebble]

Oh the sweet irony 😄

[light moat]

Twisting my phone in all directions trying to see this thing

[chilly tusk]

the back and the front of the building being mirrored doesn't make it symmetrical in a 3d sense.

[livid zenith]

Yeah

[light moat]

It’s symmetrical, but it’s not circular-ish… if that makes sense lol. It’s like a Diamond I think. Or a rupee.

[chilly tusk]

What's ironic is that you think you're telling me something lol

It is NOT symmetrical. Stop arguing with me.

[livid zenith]

Do you know the name of that structure for the find command?

Nvm I found one

[merry pebble]

Dvergrtown

[arctic summit]

i am here to complain that i cant make my private server with the boys password free

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1163775971372056576/1376383514685214730/beetle_slap.gif

[merry pebble]

Just use 12345 or something 🤔

[arctic summit]

i just deleted the entire password string and it defaulted to secret

which is ez enuf, but wish it had no pw

[light moat]

Use Kev1n

[arctic summit]

@plush vessel

[light moat]

No one will ever guess it

[arctic summit]

why are there so many kevin's here LOL

[light moat]

LOL 😂

Kevin: “oh boy! Valheim news!”

[arctic summit]

fr. whou's only come here to complain

why is hammer 2 handed so i cant be cool and hold lantern while i build

shield + hammer = peaceful building

[pliant hatch]

The whole password "thingy" is added to prevent the Devs being accused of having grievers at a server a player started. Which would happen if the server was unprotected.
Meaning, the password should only be given to those you trust.

If you don't want that, use a very simple password and the problem is solved.
But the consequences are your own responsibilty.

[merry pebble]

You wouldnt be able to use either shield or hammer 😄

[pliant hatch]

Nah, just hammer away with your shield. Problem solved.

[merry pebble]

You block so hard it builds a workbench? 😄

[arctic summit]

LOL

[arctic summit]

im lazy though

[pliant hatch]

Nope, the shield is the workbench.

[arctic summit]

O

[light moat]

Really digs at me there this one other ‘TooMuchDog’ on this server, like what are they chances lol

[merry pebble]

Lol, there really is one more xD

[pliant hatch]

So now there are TooMuchDog(g)s here.

[light moat]

He’s only said 1 thing 👀

[solemn hawk]

yo guys quick question, can i plant any plant in the plains or just barley and flax

[livid zenith]

dvergr structures are symmetrical. I could’ve taken your word for it but it would’ve stayed in my head forever if I didn’t check. The 6 sided one seems to have some walls at angles not achievable by the build hammer so that was probably why it looked off in the screenshot

[merry pebble]

Also everything from before plains 🙂

[solemn hawk]

ok thank you so much

[merry pebble]

It is simply smushed hexagon 🙂 but Hrothgar seems to think that only perfect hexagons are symmetrical

[light moat]

Symmetrical doesn’t necessarily mean radially symmetrical! That’s where he got caught up I think

[merry pebble]

Could be 🙂

[livid zenith]

With the placement of his wooden beams none of the ends line up with the ones on the opposite side, which makes the hexagon look wonky

[arctic summit]

where can i post pics

i took a funny screenie

[strong stirrup]

If its in-game then #screenshots

[arctic summit]

ty i did

[strong stirrup]

How did you manage that 😭

[arctic summit]

idek i was just making coal at the obliterator, turned around to that

[livid zenith]

So little about this makes sense

[arctic summit]

i hope this game never fixes the bugs

[shy marlin]

@chrome badge Hey so I'm testing out this little theory of yours and well. ..You saying that it applies to Very Hard just isn't true. While running mushrooms and berries, you cannot parry fulings (melee) or higher (block skill 50 btw, pretty generous skill level for block if you ask me). Thoughts? 🤨

[chrome badge]

Considering I'd initially mentioned skeletons, and that it's something I personally enjoy doing, it's not a theory. I extended the example to Fulings, but never tied the logic directly to Very Hard, just that it would translate to certain scenarios. This still works quite well in other difficulties.

[raw token]

It's bilaterally symmetric on two of its axes, a perfect hexagon would be isometric.

[shy marlin]

.........

[light moat]

Beautiful explanation

[chrome badge]

Especially means this also extends to, and there's no direct mention of fulings here sir.

[shy marlin]

Last I checked night spawns include Fulings, Seekers, and Charred 🤨 or are we gonna shift the goalposts again

ESPECIALLY if we are using jotun bane and comparing it to berserker axes

[chrome badge]

I appreciate the dedication to trying to prove my opinion wrong though, admirable at the very least.

[shy marlin]

You're literally wrong and you shift the goalpost to make it seem like you aren't but under the context of the scenario you are

And rather and admit that you're wrong you continue to shift the goalpost

It's fine if you don't play on very hard, but don't make claims that certain things work when they very clearly do not, it's harmful and it's misinformation

[chrome badge]

The only thing here to be wrong about is not wanting another teaser for deep north because the character in the teaser is utilizing a weapon you deemed as the worst mistlands weapon, but also admitted it's the 2nd best for woodcutting.

It's surely odd.

[shy marlin]

It's objetively the worst mistlands weapon and again, weapons are not tools

[merry pebble]

-# || @light moat 🧙‍♀️ ||

[chrome badge]

1h axes are tools.

[shy marlin]

No, they are both a weapon and a tool

[chrome badge]

There you go./

So some weapons are tools.

[shy marlin]

But if you're purely looking at jotun bane as a weapon, it's bad, if your'e looking at it as a tool, it's 2nd to berserker axes

[raw token]

I've missed some deeper conversation here I'm sure, but night spawns also included swamp wraiths.

[shy marlin]

Context is in the meadows

[chrome badge]

That's fine, the teasers never show her using it as a weapon, and Smiffe said it was just for looks, making the weapon used even less important.

[shy marlin]

Ok?

[chrome badge]

Okay.

[shy marlin]

You're claim of nightspawn parrying on vh with the food you proposed is just incorrect though, that's my issue right now

Mind you I was far too generous with any parrying option testing

[chrome badge]

The initial point was how it was strange to not want a teaser because of the jotun bane being in the teaser, I merely pointed out why some people would utilize it, and you got crossed up on what is meta. The point was fumbled pretty quickly.

[shy marlin]

🤨

Where did I get crossed up on what is meta?

[chrome badge]

You keep repeating to me what is objectively better, but fail to understand that I said you're suggesting using a 2h axe where some players might just be more comfortable with a 1h axe and a shield.

[shy marlin]

in terms of combat and wood cutting, berserker axes are still objectively better, there's no confusion there

[chrome badge]

I really never wanted to make you feel challenged on your knowledge, just highlight that surely the axe has some use.

[shy marlin]

The axe has a use but there's a better option

If you wanna use it sure but you can't claim that it's the best

[chrome badge]

Okay, not a big deal.

It is the best 1h axe.

[shy marlin]

It's also very convenient you're still not addressing 🤣

Like just straight up lying

[chrome badge]

Again, I never said fuling on very hard get parried, I mentioned skeletons along those lines.

[shy marlin]

Nah you're moving the goalposts

[chrome badge]

You're just very mad over nothing, life will go on I promise.

[shy marlin]

The context was different and now you're changing it

I'm not mad at all, I'm a ChemE and I love data and science

Maybe some projection though? 🤔

[chrome badge]

Feel free to mention where I say Fulings on Very Hard get parried and that's why I carry a shield. Or anything specific to be honest, I spoke broadly because I have knowledge that it doesn't extend to everything.

[shy marlin]

It's implied in the context of the convo we had

[chrome badge]

You're making your own implications then, and I can't help you out of that pit.

[shy marlin]

You don't talk about a strategy very broadly if it only works in a niche scenario

That's just basic theory 101

[chrome badge]

I can if the point was far from what was being talked about, and I'm having to explain a simple position to someone.

[shy marlin]

I understand your position, but in theory it's just not a good position

Like the theory is just objectively bad

Why run 3 foods when you can get better stats from 1 feast?

And it's far more cost effective to run feasts

[chrome badge]

Again, not an argument for what's meta, just for what's comfortable/most familiar/offers flexibility in usage.

[shy marlin]

If you're playing on VH, running berries and mushrooms with nightspawns is absolutely not comfortable for anyone, including myself

If you want to make a claim for normal sure, but you said higher difficulties

[chrome badge]

Sure feasts are better, but when I'm already set up to passively harvest nearly endless supplies of berries and mushrooms, and the end result is no different, I've no issue using more cost effective supplies.

[light moat]

Did someone say… berries??
|| #suggestions message||

[chrome badge]

Hmph, I can't upvote it twice

[waxen glen]

what is the reason for the Iron Pit to be noteleport ?

[merry pebble]

We dont really know

Devs might but they would be asleep now

[light moat]

Isn’t it like 3:00am for you? 👀

[merry pebble]

Heh, try 5am 😄 same as the devs

[steep ginkgo]

when you cut a tree down do the stumps regrow or just like stay there?

[lunar sapphire]

Stay there 😛 there's a tool later on which allows you to replant crops/saplings

[merry pebble]

-# heh you were faster 😄

[lunar sapphire]

[steep ginkgo]

its my first world and im just now making it to making bronze, so i didnt know if they were going to grow and destroy my house since i built it on top of one

[raw token]

Clean up your stumps!

[lunar sapphire]

I am the lorax, I speak for the trees.
Remove your stumps, or I'll send the bees!

[livid zenith]

maybe someday we'll get an official lore drop from devs/a very well researched theory on exactly how portals work and it will all make sense why some metal things are teleportable and others aren't

[steep ginkgo]

i was trying to focus on getting the workshop and forge level 3 and im just now working on my base for once

[raw token]

Chop em with secondary axe attack if you're having trouble reaching them

[steep ginkgo]

is there any benefit to trying to get a large honey farm going early? because i have only one and i dont use honey fast enough to run out

[shy marlin]

not rlly

[merry pebble]

I usually get at least 4-5 beehives 🙂

[lunar sapphire]

Absolutely, setting up several hives will help with early-midgame content

[merry pebble]

but you can get by even with one

[lunar sapphire]

I think I have enough hives to warrant 48 honey total per x4 harvest

[merry pebble]

That is 12 beehives 😄

[lunar sapphire]

Nice!

[steep ginkgo]

how do i keep the bees happy? i havent had them get upset yet but it worries me

[raw token]

I've got 16 hives in my apiary

[shy marlin]

don't crowd them

[raw token]

Just don't block their view

[lunar sapphire]

Y'all are in my favourites book

[steep ginkgo]

one more question that was confusing me, when i was building my workshop i made the walls 3 high but i had a hard time trying to get roof support without just running poles to the floor all over the place, how do you support roofs without sacrificing floor space?

[shy marlin]

Later materials solve that problem

[steep ginkgo]

i was just looking around my base and i noticed that i have random walls, floors and poles losing durability? is that supposed to happen?

[shy marlin]

Are they covered by a roof

[steep ginkgo]

yes

[shy marlin]

Near an ocean?

[dark coyote]

I had to change some stairs to roof material for that reason too

[steep ginkgo]

i built it next to a river so i can farm flint as it repsawns

How do you put campfires indoors??

im just realizing this game is confusing me more than i thought

[dark coyote]

stone, or raised terrain

[livid zenith]

you can't place campfires on wood floors

[steep ginkgo]

am i close to unlocking stone as a building materal if i just started getting bronze?

[dark coyote]

sort of, you'll need iron

[steep ginkgo]

ahhh okay, thank you

[lunar sapphire]

||One more biome (next one from black forest) and then you can make stone build pieces||

[steep ginkgo]

i am having a hard time figuring progression out lol

which biome is after black forest?

[lunar sapphire]

If you haven't already check out the hints hugin gives you. To re-read hints, click the bird icon when hitting tab:

[dark coyote]

#LeBirb

[waxen glen]

yes, look at the bird hints

[steep ginkgo]

oh okay, i turnt him off because he kept repeating the same things i had already done

[waxen glen]

if he keeps repeating things then you haven't done them

[steep ginkgo]

i turnt it back on and hes telling me how to smelt with the smelter even though i already have some bronze things

[waxen glen]

try smelting again

[steep ginkgo]

oh does he pop up to give me the hints and then goes to the next hint after i talk to him?

[waxen glen]

also you gotta interact on the bird sometimes to get the next hint

[raw token]

...progression in this game isn't really progression as much as it is growth.

Explore, collect, acquire new things, check all your crafting options, build everything at least once, start over at explore. All at whatever pace you're comfortable with.

[lunar sapphire]

If hugin hints were turned off and you smelted something it won't count. So just one more smelting process should be fine to complete that task

Hugin appears when you've met valid criteria and collected specific materials.

[steep ginkgo]

he just spawned on my roof, how am i supposed to reach that lol

[lunar sapphire]

moving around will respawn him

[raw token]

Build a ladder

[steep ginkgo]

i forgot the ladder even existied lol

[jolly edge]

Best place to build a base ? Sick of spending hours traveling around the map lol

[merry pebble]

I usually make it in meadows

[lunar sapphire]

Mountains ❤️

[smoky quarry]

small mountain peak surrounded by field and mistland nearby

[arctic summit]

where tf be the dverger i want a new home

[lunar sapphire]

😄

[arctic summit]

3 diff biomes i think im illegally blind or something

[steep ginkgo]

how hard is it to play with other people?

[shy marlin]

not hard

[arctic summit]

am playin with 5 others rn its so much more fun

[lunar sapphire]

There's only two biomes you can dvrgrs in. ||Mistlands and Ashlands||

[arctic summit]

oh ya ik

im been in 3 different large mistland sections of this world and scoped the entire thing

all i keep seeing are the rouges, and the solo non rouges but no structure just the lamp

as i say that i walk up to one legit ON the ocean

[lunar sapphire]

If you're playing with 5 others there's a high chance that nearby spawned in seekers/seeker soldiers/ticks/gjalls have killed any dvrgr around the place, or other players have killed them all.

[arctic summit]

nah we r all progressing together in V

[lunar sapphire]

ah the building specifically, that provides black metal and a few other resources so there's a chance they've been dismantled by the other players 😄

[arctic summit]

#screenshots this is insane

[steep ginkgo]

i wanna play with another person but i dont really wanna rush through progression or anything

[arctic summit]

on the ocean, with a rock in it

[arctic summit]

if u wanna play with us u can, we V in a different server tho

[lunar sapphire]

My advice, I'd recommend playing the game through solo then with other players/mods

[steep ginkgo]

im enjoying the game, just wish i had some friends to talk to about the game and show off the things i build that i think look cool, the only friend i talk to doesnt like the game so he wont talk to me about it :/

[raw token]

Why have just one? I've got a big main base in the meadows, a forge base in the swamp, and a garden base in the plains...

[lunar sapphire]

A Witch!

[raw token]

I weigh considerably more than a duck.

[lunar sapphire]

Subject has been Bamboozled

[merry pebble]

Do you float tho...

[raw token]

Not particularly well

[merry pebble]

Hmmm, then you really might not be a witch 👀

[fading schooner]

That's why we come here to talk and post our pictures in the Screenshots topic.

[jolly edge]

Same here haha

[jolly edge]

Travel ? Can’t go through portal with metal bars

[merry pebble]

You can if you enable the world modifier 🙂

And you can always just bring metal there and craft stuff you want

[fading schooner]

You can smelt your bars and ride the ocean waves to take a load to your other base

[raw token]

Varies. With bars/ore if I need it at main base thats by foot or by boat, otherwise I craft the item in place.

[lunar sapphire]

Cart: "Am I a joke?"

[lethal lynx]

You're in here too?

[steep ginkgo]

i just built a cart and i use it to deforest

[raw token]

By foot though, you can really haul some a$$ using Eikthyr power + Fenris armor and/or strength/speed mead, and the belt ofc.

[raw token]

Well hellooooooo!

[lethal lynx]

yoooo

[raw token]

I was going to tell you I started Valheim but I'm not on FS server

[lethal lynx]

been peeping the latest grand sumo championships on youtube

[steep ginkgo]

can you use floor as a roof?

[lunar sapphire]

||Stone and up you can||

[raw token]

This last basho was crazy, was really hoping Aonishiki would pull it off but Kotoshoho really surprised us all.

[blazing orchid]

Damn started looking for swamp and find the most tiniest one ever, back to the drawing board I guess

[fading schooner]

Remove a floor piece and place it on the ground.

[steep ginkgo]

i built all my houses floating a little bit with support pillars underneath

[merry pebble]

You can raise ground with a hoe 🙂

[steep ginkgo]

i forget the hoe can even do that tbh

[raw token]

The first swamp I found was just a tiny sliver in the ocean next to the black forest, zero crypts, not enough room for an abomination to spawn, not even a bone or body pile.

[fading schooner]

a soft intro

[raw token]

Yeah, had to build a land bridge out to the islands.

[lethal lynx]

you don't run a karve to go island hopping?

[blazing orchid]

I found an abomination but he fled up a huge long mountain so I couldn’t follow

I’m currently running a Karve at the moment. Looking for bigger lands — looking for a sunken crypt I have like 6 keys.

[fading schooner]

Er 6 keys?

[raw token]

This was really too shallow for even that, just needed a quick access to farm what little was there and still run back to safety

[kindred karma]

Holy im so happy today

[merry pebble]

Somebody fought Elder quite a few times 👀

[blazing orchid]

Yeah this is a world I made with my friends and we just fought him a bunch. Now I’m exploring the lands in their stead so I can chart where we go next.

[raw token]

But I did discover it in my karve, I use longboats now tho

[lethal lynx]

longboats for life

[blazing orchid]

I’m trying to rake in some iron but it appears luck is not on my side today.

[fading schooner]

I find karves are more maneuverable, but longboats better for ocean voyages

[raw token]

A dock is my next major build after I improve my foundry area

[merry pebble]

Pray to RNGeezus 😄

[lethal lynx]

unfortunately you need a dang drakkar to get to the ashlands

fucking thing is a buick

[blazing orchid]

I say my luck is bad and I finally see one in the horizons lmfao

[steep ginkgo]

i posted a screenshot of my worksite shed that im using while i flatten the land around it

im actually really happy with the way it turnt out

[fading schooner]

IT's cute. Gotta start somewhere!

[steep ginkgo]

im trying to relocate because the area im in now i feel it is a tad to cramped and theres a runestone in the way telling how to tame a boar lol

[raw token]

Not that far along, I was still in a karve when I stumbled across the mistlands and noped right out, I could barely tackle the swamp at that point and knew anything there would paste me. Still just starting the mountains and have claimed a small patch of plains.

[fading schooner]

Great spot for an early boar farm, then

You only need to catch 2 to start a farm....

[blazing orchid]

Do sunken crypts respawn?

Stuff inside of it >~> after looting?

[raw token]

No

[merry pebble]

Nope, only stuff in mistlands dungeons and yellow mushrooms respawn 🙂

[raw token]

Only the mushrooms

[lethal lynx]

ashlands are wild

[raw token]

I'm looking forward to both '-lands

[lethal lynx]

lmk if you wanna gang up

I got 4 or 5 lads ready to jump

[raw token]

I'll post some screenshots of my main base when I get back on this weekend

[lunar sapphire]

With that, #building-screenshots is the channel you want when you do post them

[raw token]

I'm ok with my pace at the moment, and am playing with another friend, we're progressing at the same rate. He's got his own world but he plays on mine as well...we just beat Bonemass on his this weekend; I'm waiting until my fortifications are complete.

I'm the builder, he's the one that wants to move along faster

[lethal lynx]

damn

#building-screenshots is wild

I'm a fuckin noob compared to these lot

[raw token]

You should see my space tho, it's pretty magnificent

[fading schooner]

I feel your pain.

[lunar sapphire]

Alternatively if you want to minimise the raid progression and mob spawns from killing certain bosses, you can kill them on a seperate world and then bring the boss drops back to your main world.

[steep ginkgo]

if you die and drop your items does dying again mean losing those items?

[lethal lynx]

dang

[raw token]

Yup, brought my wishbone back from his world 😉

[fading schooner]

@steep ginkgo nope.

[lethal lynx]

now I wanna play valheim real bad

[steep ginkgo]

thank you

[fading schooner]

I died too many times in a boss fight and had all the tombstones to go through to find my gear 😄

[raw token]

And he was playing the whole time on his world not having beaten even one boss and then complains about the raids on mine!

[lunar sapphire]

[steep ginkgo]

i found a troll cave and thought i could tank a hit with my skeleton sheild and he almost one hit me and i paniced and he killed me lol

[lunar sapphire]

A few raids are basically just free food delivery

[arctic summit]

Dis made me look in there.
I thought I was good till I looked in it

[raw token]

My current raids are either trolls or stink from the swamp.

Fortunately I can parry like a madman.

[arctic summit]

The troll one is crazy when u got the finewood bow and bronze

[steep ginkgo]

is parrying supposed to make you still take damage?

[lunar sapphire]

Depends on the shields

[merry pebble]

Not much, and you can block more dmg by parrying instead of normal blocking

[lethal lynx]

yeah

[raw token]

I use it more for the stun/knock back and then follow up for bonus damage.

[lethal lynx]

you're still getting hit

[merry pebble]

If you have the bone shield you cant parry

[steep ginkgo]

when you die what does it mean by "the gods are merciful"?

[lunar sapphire]

round ones actually parry and throw off the enemy. Tall shields just take less damage/block some damage but can't parry

[steep ginkgo]

ahhhhh okay that makes sense

[lunar sapphire]

If you die with that active you won't lose anymore skill points

[lethal lynx]

no skill loss

[lunar sapphire]

lasts for 10 minutes

[merry pebble]

That you had "no skill drain" buff still active from last daeth and you didnt loose any skill levels this time

[raw token]

Ahhhh, that explains something.

Is why I stuck with bucklers

[steep ginkgo]

oh i guess ive been pretty lucky so far, ive only dies like 7-10 times and its always said that

[merry pebble]

If you die in the 10 minutes its active after the first death the timer refreshes 🙂

[raw token]

I much prefer the parry to the better block

Hrm

Now I'm rethinking my golem strategy...

[merry pebble]

Strategy for golems is usually to parry the attack that staggers them for few seconds and get 5-6 hits with a mace in 🙂

[lunar sapphire]

Decent Food and biome appropriate shields are your strategy.
It's only been this playthrough I've been confident enough taking on golems and parrying every attack

[steep ginkgo]

do trolls in the caves respawn?

[merry pebble]

Nope, and are really rare

[lunar sapphire]

adding on to this, you can do 3 swipes with a sword and then a charged attack before the next golem attack if you parry it

[steep ginkgo]

i found 2 and one just roaming around

[raw token]

I've got the best foods! I'm the "camp mom" as it were lol

[lunar sapphire]

"Mum! Don't!"

[merry pebble]

I just do the 5-6 attacks, usually does more dmg since the 2 3-hit combos 🙂

[raw token]

Just graduated up to Wolf lvl stuff, and feasts ofc

[steep ginkgo]

why copper and tin ore have to be so heavy :/

[lethal lynx]

silver armors is useless asf

[raw token]

Trolls in caves, once beaten, do not respawn - but they wander the forest all the time

[lethal lynx]

real tawk

[lunar sapphire]

[raw token]

Rare you say? I find them all the time

[merry pebble]

Oh yes they are rare, they can only spawn in those large caves with frozen lakes 🙂 and those are really rare

[raw token]

It's the rare one that is empty

[lethal lynx]

wait are trolls rare?>

[merry pebble]

Not especially

[lethal lynx]

I constantly have to fuck em up just wandering in the woods

[raw token]

Wait, are you talking about golem in the frost caves? Or big blue down in the forest?

[lethal lynx]

lads are always hanging around copper deposits

[lunar sapphire]

Stone golems? not rare at all :D. stone golems always spawn around silver or other poi nodes/sites.

[merry pebble]

Golems in caves... Now i realized i missread the firs message i was replying to... 🤦‍♂️

[lunar sapphire]

and once defeated can respawn nearby in under 2 minutes or so

However rare find in caves yes. I've never seen a stone golem in a cave

[raw token]

Ok, I was very confused lol - I'm on the hunt for a frozen lake now, still haven't found one.

[lethal lynx]

my seed has a wicked amount of frozen lakes

lotta climbing ngl

[merry pebble]

Yeah, my bad xD currently closing on 21 hours without sleep

[raw token]

I've been through half a dozen frost caves so far and no luck yet, was hoping that 'boss' quest cave thing from t-shirt guy would have one, but nope.

[raw token]

Lucky you

[steep ginkgo]

how do you deal with getting overwhelmed by the greydwarf brutes and the shamans, plus the ranged ones?

[lethal lynx]

so how do you lot deal with the "you are being hunted"

I get fuckin rekt every time

[steep ginkgo]

everytime i enter the black forest like 20 of the different graydwarfs surround me and i get boned

they come outta no where

[raw token]

In the words of the Great Rolly-Polly....

"Git gud scrub"

Seriously though; avoid the forest at night, run like hell, upgrade your gear - all viable options.

[steep ginkgo]

ill see one and be like okay i can handle this, then i realize he brought his buddies and i realize i have just stepped into their trap

[raw token]

Nighttime is really the worst for those ambushes, go during the day and keep an eye out for structures/spawn piles - they cluster around those

[lethal lynx]

balled a bit too hard there

[raw token]

@lethal lynx I don't get that one yet, can't help. But it's mostly just wolves right?

[lethal lynx]

it is yeah, you get like 10 wolves messing you up

coming from all angles too

[lunar sapphire]

let's reduce the swearing please. Seen a fair bit today

[lethal lynx]

oop sorry

[raw token]

I use a LOT of spikey sticks around my perimeter

Constantly repairing/replacing them

One unexpected advantage though, is there's one corner where, for whatever reason, deer are constantly dying on them - I get a nice steady supply of meat/hides 😆

[lethal lynx]

wild

[steep ginkgo]

what does the cartography table do?

[lethal lynx]

allows you to see what every other person in the server sees

good for large groups

[steep ginkgo]

ahhh so useless for me lol

[lethal lynx]

join up cuh

We out here

[steep ginkgo]

? i am new so i dont understand very much of this game

[lethal lynx]

trust, we ball hard out here

I'm working on a magic only run

[steep ginkgo]

theres magic?

[lethal lynx]

I die a alot

but ye

[lunar sapphire]

Telloh is new to the game, so let's just leave Telloh to their own exploration

If you want people to join a current playthrough please use the #1024264966712340510 channel

[steep ginkgo]

is there a photo mode?

[lethal lynx]

👍

[raw token]

I don't remember if you have to enable something first, but try ctrl+F3 to hide the hud.

If that doesn't work, there's a thing you have to do i n steam first (I'd have to look it up)

...wait, are you on PC?

[steep ginkgo]

yes

[raw token]

ctrl+f3

[steep ginkgo]

is there a way to detach camera for better angles?

[raw token]

That's a whole different level of access, but yes.

[steep ginkgo]

ahhh so like not something normal you can do?

[raw token]

As far as I know you have to enable the thing on steam, then access devcommands in-game, then enable 'free fly' mode

If you Google valheim free fly it'll tell you all about it

[fossil delta]

Well, we finally have everything we need to have everything operating. Now we have to decide by tomorrow if we want to try magic again. We still need to do a bit of travelling to get to the palace for that fight. Just since we have taken so long to get to this point, we already have all the mats we need to make any additional gear we decide to make. This final dungeon was kind of crazy. I don't think I have ever seen 4 soldiers in one room before.

Not to mention everything else that was in there.

[steep ginkgo]

what order do you guys use for the hotbar?

[raw token]

1-8?

Typically unless running under specific circumstances:

In order
Sword, shield, axe, bow, hammer, pickaxe, arrow1, arrow2.

The last 3 I change up for certain things, but the first 5 are almost always in that order.

Bottom row of my inventory is: helm, cloak, tunic, belt, trousers, food1, food2, food3

You'll get to a belt later, so don't worry about that for now.

[steep ginkgo]

mine is currently Torch, spear, bow, axe, hammer,pickaxe, hoe

is there a tree in black forest i can get finewood from?

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Reasonable starting setup...I ensure my top row is always full of my choices though...I left a slot up there open once, and by chance had picked up some bukeperries that ended up in slot 7, I was trying to equip whatever I had in 8 at the ti.e (my bow i think) and accidentally hit 7 instead - started puking my guts out and I never left a slot up there open after ghsy

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No

[steep ginkgo]

i thought so, also i like the spear because i can kill one dude then throw the spear at the next and stun him run up and kill him too

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Finewood is available in the meadows but you need a better axe than flint.

[steep ginkgo]

i was trying to build another portal in the black forest but forgot the wood lol

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Valheim is great for different combat strategies, I rarely used my spear. I am a knife/sword enjoyer while my buddy prefers clubs/maces

[steep ginkgo]

im thinking of swapping to either a sword/mace combo, or maybe a knife,mace combo, im trying to run lighter now i was so slow and heavy it was hard to move easy

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If you unequip whatever you're carrying it removes the movement penalty

[steep ginkgo]

i know but i have a hard time doing that when i need to move in combat

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I used knife/shield for the majority of the beginning biomes

[steep ginkgo]

ive been dreaming of a sword since i started lol

[raw token]

You'll get there

Not too far off actually

I stopped carrying torches pretty much right away too

[steep ginkgo]

i almost never use it tbh :/

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Yup, was just clutter in my inventory.

[steep ginkgo]

i just found a burial chamber with NINE of the Surtling cores

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You'll be swimming in those in no time, but you'll find you need plenty as well 😆

[steep ginkgo]

lol yeah, i only have one smelter and one kiln, the kiln is fine but i want another smelter

what foods did you use early game?

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Before I stated crafting i ran on honey, mushrooms, and cooked deer

[steep ginkgo]

i use the neck meat, deer meat, and yellow mushrooms

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Once I was able to cook real food things got better

I prefer stamina foods over health, but these days (and most days actually) I run one high stamina, one high health, and one balanced when I'm just out and about.

I run full stamina for some situations, but rarely full health. All the HP in the world is useless w/o stamina.

[steep ginkgo]

speaking facts

scale 1-10 how good is the troll set?