valheim-chat

[nocturne wolf]

And you didn’t have the wet effect?

[agile temple]

nope

well time to go on another 30 minute item rescue mission just cause i got comboed by a gjall

I found an abandoned dvergr camp guarded by 4 seekers and a 1 star seeker, i went down into the basement and found absolutely nothing 🙁

it's like the game's mocking me at this point

[agile temple]

So apparently the feather cape I'm wearing makes me very weak to fire...

[nocturne wolf]

But also makes fire easier to avoid. Barley wine overrides weakness so if you're worried, drink that.

[old rose]

Man, I completely forgot about fire res when I started encountering Gjall's

[near widget]

good thing logging out of the game stops you from burning otherwise i would have been cooked

[shy marlin]

🫰 Combat update makes it so weak + resistant = neutral and not just resistant

[near widget]

in more ways than one

[worldly violet]

what are dandelions for? also is there a wiki? i dont wanna spam silly questions, and i dont want to watch youtube vids about how to play. just need a bit of guidence now and again

[shy marlin]

Here's the wiki, https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Valheim_Wiki, dandelions will have a use later, assuming you've only seen the meadows

[worldly violet]

yeah, i walked into that dark forest place for a few seconds and headed back. i litearlly know nothing about the game, but i keep coming back, for this music 😛

[static harbor]

[fresh terrace]

does the stagbreaker silver method still work?

[shy marlin]

yes

Just gonna clarify just in case, stagbreaker gives too hard message, iron sledge will give 0's

I'd also imagine demolisher gives 0's but don't quote me haven't ever actually prospected with demolisher

[fresh terrace]

could someone get in vc and help me find some

i keep dying to freeze, but ive got all the other stuff for wolf cape other than silver

[nocturne wolf]

Can't you make frost resistance mead?

[fresh terrace]

idk how

also too lazy

[nocturne wolf]

It's what you're supposed to use when entering mountains for the first time

[light snow]

If you are too lazy to make frost resist then do the caves and make a fenris coat at least. Doing silver while freezing is silly

[steel mica]

It literally introduces to you how to make it when you get the ingredients in the swamp

[fresh terrace]

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[undone hedge]

I built my 1st eitr refinery, was checking it out (no food buffs) as it was running, BAM dead. No one warned me bullets shoot out of it. LOL

I assume this should be built on the tallest tower in your base?

[keen trench]

that would be dangerous for tames/ other structures

[undone hedge]

I only seen the shots go up, do they also go down?

[keen trench]

it damages anything except iron cages and black marble

[undone hedge]

oh

[keen trench]

welll it goes in random directions, actually if you place it very high with enough floor overhang you should be ok

[undone hedge]

Ok cool, I have the perfect enclosure in mind.

[keen trench]

but i think it's better cage it in those materials

[undone hedge]

ty for the info

[keen trench]

no problem! and ofc eat something before you go recover your stuff

[undone hedge]

One more question, these green balls get baked into food ?

[keen trench]

not the refined ones, but you might want to save some unrefined sap for that

[undone hedge]

oh OK, I been gone a long time

[agile temple]

Alright so me and my friend just arrived at the ashlands

Got harrassed before we even touched land, then when we did we died and our boat got destroyed before we could find a place to put the portal

Yipee

[keen trench]

enjoy your comback so (and the tons of good equipent refined eitr unlocks)

[agile temple]

guess we have to make a new boat

and somehow try to miracle our items back

or just quit for a week lol

[undone hedge]

That sucks, When I make anything important, I am required to make 2 of them, Iearned the hard way several times before I finnaly just made 2 of everything - even boats

[agile temple]

i'm not sure what we were supposed to do or what we did wrong

a bone maw and a vulture thingy were already on our ass before we even entered the biome

then as soon as we reached land it's just 50 enemies spraying projectiles all over us

like what did the game expect us to do there? make a portal? kill all of them?

[undone hedge]

I cant help, I dont know lol

[agile temple]

then as soon as we ran away they all started hammering on our boat and fully destroyed it before we could even run back

so i tried to climb up on an arch and make a portal there but they destroyed the base of the arch and just killed me

30 damage in one hit with the bonemass and the best armour i could have right now

what could the valheim devs possibly be thinking

[somber forge]

Anyone to play Valhiem with?

[vocal rivet]

It's certainly sounding like that week break would be good for your mental health.

[agile temple]

i just wanna kill the ashlands boss as fast as possible and never touch the game again

both me and my friend know we're running purely on OCD and sunk cost fallacy we are both done with this game

[vocal rivet]

Sunk cost? The game is $20. You've easily had that much enjoyment out of the game already.

[agile temple]

you overestimate how much we enjoyed this game

[vocal rivet]

You've got to Ashlands, the current final biome. You can't have hated ALL of it.

And if you HAVE, then why the fuck are you still playing?

[undone hedge]

You could always enable fly mode to get your stuff then turn it off.

[agile temple]

the game doesn't give you much time to enjoy your progress, as soon as you've made the new biome armour set then the only thing you can really use it on is the biome boss

then sail to the next biome and you're back to being one shot by everything

[agile temple]

we simply have nothing better to play

[undone hedge]

you stand a better chance if all your current gear is max upgraded

[vocal rivet]

The game is balanced that the bosses can be killed in level 1 armour of the same biome.

[agile temple]

sure there have been good times, but for every 5 minutes of happiness or progress or adrenaline, there's 2 hours of getting our items back or mindlessly grinding

looking for dungeons, making a new boat to sail back to where we died, etc etc

we obvs can't quit at the final biome but god knows we want to

[vocal rivet]

I know you're against using cheat commands (which is fair enough), but have you at least tried changing difficulty settings?

[agile temple]

nah, i also dk which difficulty we're on rn

[nocturne wolf]

A game’s not allowed to get more difficult through progression?

[agile temple]

ok there's get more difficult then there's molesting us as soon as we set foot on the new biome

could there at least be an ash beach that's relatively less aggressive so we can put a portal down or do anything

is it intended game design for us to immediately lose our boat not 5 minutes after we first make it?

[vocal rivet]

You shouldn't be losing it straight away, no.

[agile temple]

yeah well the biome had other things to say about that

not to mention the LAG

particle effects absolutely everywhere, which is expected when you've spawned 30 fire-based enemies on our ass

[keen trench]

ok Ashlands is a bad hitting jump for many, but concerning the whole rest of the game, there are many ways to prepare/backup and avoid that enjoyement / time used in corpse recovery ratio you're describing... usually first time hits hard but also teaches to work it around, maybe a difficulty jump moment (on endgame, so top difficulty by definition) is making you feel the whole game as frustrating..

[agile temple]

nah it all went downhill when we made our first boat and jumped from the black forest straight to the plains

up to that point, we still thought this was a normal game with, y'know normal exploration and progression like minecraft or terraria for example where you're not punished for exploring

[vocal rivet]

The only thing the game punishes you for is lack of preparedness.

[keen trench]

ook, well that explains some, jumping two biomes straight and not being frustrated is quite a hard task

[agile temple]

little did we know that we were about to get one shot by every single enemy that we came across

now, again, we thought this was a normal game so we didn't bring portal ingredients and had to RAFT the very long distance all the way back

[vocal rivet]

It IS a normal game.

[agile temple]

i think this time i DID bring portal ingredients but as soon as i put it down, it was destroyed right after we died again

wait no before we even touched the plains we got hammered by a draugr village first

anyway so after our second 30 minute raft journey, i put the portal somewhere safe and we actually defeated the draugr village

THEN we went into the plains and that's when we really realised what was up

[agile temple]

(we did not know that enemies target our stuff after we die)

[vocal rivet]

They won't.

[agile temple]

well they clearly do

anyway yeah that 30 minute raft journey became a little bit of an inside joke to the point where we literally started browsing memes on screenshare while we waited to arrive at our destination

[vocal rivet]

Enemies will only attack your structures if they think that's the way to you.

[keen trench]

i just turn back and fast when i see "plains" in the map while sailing unless i already buckled up to at least a late swamp/mid mountains tier gear and food... as it's generally intended to be

[agile temple]

nope they literally kill us and start attacking our walls/plants/portals

if players aren't nearby they will destroy your portals and workbenches

[nocturne wolf]

They’ll only break walls to reach something else but portals and plants will be attacked if seen

[valid python]

I got stuck a long time at Elder, then at Moder. Interestingly my first time agains Bonemass and Yug was comparitivly easy.
It was around 40ish hours before I worked out how progreession even works. First time playing was with people more expericed and just kinda derped around while they played XD

[agile temple]

anyway after a few days we finally got our items back, cleared the draugr village and had a stable portal

irl days

and that's when we realised this game isn't built to be played blind

hell it isn't built to be played at all sometimes

before that it was funny cool fantasy survival game with nice atmosphere
afterwards it was just another rage game lol

[errant knoll]

Blind is the best way to play the game.

I agree that there's a few aspects of the game that grind my gears a great deal.

[agile temple]

anyway i guess tomorrow we make another boat and by some god given miracle get our items back and find a place to put the portal

[errant knoll]

The first landing into the Ashlands is especially harsh vs everything thats come before it, I'm all for difficulty increasing but the jumps in this game are so darned wonky

[keen trench]

being cautious and dropping a safe portal before i go somwhere unknown always been quite enough to play it blind, but that's me

[agile temple]

or lose the boat again and die and go mining in swamp dungeons for iron 👍

[valid python]

Hey, do you think combat update will change how skills are gained? Because currently its 'Each time you hit something' with no barring on how much damage you do or what you're fighting.

So theoretically if one player just had an infinitely respawning single neck, you would be gaining exp at the same rate as someone fighting a boss.

[agile temple]

in the sea?

[nocturne wolf]

Why a neck

[keen trench]

that's the "being cautious" part

[agile temple]

no i mean

where tf were we supposed to put the portal in this situation?

we were already getting attacked before we even saw the damn biome

[keen trench]

dunno, it depends, on the opposit shore with a backup boat in a storage box for instance

[errant knoll]

You can build your portal on those rocky bits that aren't quite on the shore but are close

[agile temple]

well the opposite shore is just our mistlands

[agile temple]

was thinking of doing that but then we'll have to get on the island somehow and swimming isn't viable

[keen trench]

oh ok, it's Ashlands, i was still at forest-to-plains

[errant knoll]

If you can see land and the rock is close to it, the water is shallow

I get it a bit though, I have a real love-hate relationship with this game

[agile temple]

love? what love? 😭

[errant knoll]

I loved playing through it blind, exploring a world which is uniquely mine due to the seed generation, discovering how you progress

But there is also stuff that I think is objectively bad game design

[agile temple]

we also played it blind and made the terrible decision to create a boat and "go exploring"

[errant knoll]

Yet I don't think that will change cause the devs aren't really making the game for me

[agile temple]

go find some "new land" and hopefully get some "new items"

you know, like in minecraft! :D go find some villages or a jungle and find some cool structures and maybe get something to help us progress!

[keen trench]

still have to go there, seen some playthrus, i know it's hell, i already built a outpost-haven with what i need and decided to build 2 boats, seen how it's done to stop from time to time on rock spikes just to build a bench and keep the boat reapaired, and very ready to die

[agile temple]

"NO!" said the valheim devs, "NO! DEATHSQUITO! ENJOY RAFTING ALL THE WAY BACK HERE FOR THE NEXT 2 DAYS OF YOUR LIFE!"

[keen trench]

my friend insist that it's not doable alone but i think otherwise

[agile temple]

"EXPLORATION?!" Exclaimed the valheim devs. "FUN?! WHO DO YOU THINK WE ARE? SOME COMPETENT GAME DEVELOPERS?!"

[errant knoll]

To be honest there's some stuff with the map gen which could be done better, there's kind of supposed to be a safeguard against this a bit, IE tough biomes don't spawn near the centre so you're supposed to have a good chance to find things like swamp before plains.

[agile temple]

"NO!!!" They shouted. "THIS IS GETTING OVER IT WITH BENNETT FODDY! THIS IS TRAP ADVENTURE 2! THIS WILL BE YOUR UNDOING!"

[errant knoll]

but a) this isn't clearly communicated in the game anywhere, and b) finding the swamp can be a real crapshoot at times.

[agile temple]

yes but... why boat

[errant knoll]

Because it's nordic and you're a viking? They travelled by sea?

Like that makes perfect sense

[agile temple]

yeah but if we're not supposed to make a boat and travel by sea and skip 2 whole biomes ahead then... why boat?

at least have hugin come down and tell us when we make a boat that we shouldn't venture too far or something

[errant knoll]

A lot of maps don't have swamp in their first landmass

[agile temple]

else we'll lose our items and have to go all the way back there via less efficient "boat"

[keen trench]

again, i can see the Ashland frustration, but talking about the whole game again, like every difficult thing, pausing destracting and retrying does a good job..

[agile temple]

again we played completely blind, no prior knowledge

after we killed the elder we got a stupid mystery key and didn't know what to do next so we thought to just go exploring

[errant knoll]

The game could use more communication regarding "don't sail too far out too soon", like maybe have a marked circle on your map and outside that circle is where the more dangerous biomes start appearing. You're not forbidden from going there but you get warned

[agile temple]

little did we know that they scaled this game so that every enemy slightly ahead of progression is a final boss level threat if you don't have the right gear

[errant knoll]

Again, swamp generation is PARTICULARLY bad

I'm willing to admit that generation logic for swamp could do with some improvements

[agile temple]

like show me someone at meadows level trying to kill a single fuling. it won't be a bare handed steve vs enderman situation

[errant knoll]

its the worst biome in the game for that

[errant knoll]

I mean Meadows is a tutorial biome and plains is the biome thats essentially preparing you for the late game where the gloves come off big time

it's literally jumping 4 biomes ahead, thats half the game.

[agile temple]

yes but we didn't know that

we thought normal survival game.

we thought we're supposed to explore biomes not that we're landlocked to a singular biome until we've sucked it dry from all possible content and upgrades before moving on

[errant knoll]

If you try to enter the black forest before killing Eikthyr the bird flies down and tells you its dangerous. After killing Eikthyr he directs you towards the black forest. Killing elder gives you a SWAMP key, clearly directing you to a swampy biome.

Do the plains look swampy?

Like I understand your frustration a little bit

but the game does try to communicate these details to you if you just pay attention.

[agile temple]

again we aren't used to such linear progression, we thought the swamp key was some sort of treasure or something

also we had to visit i think 2 different swamps before finding where to use the key

[errant knoll]

Again, I've already admitted swamp generation is bad

the game could do a better job of that, it's the worst biome for it.

[valid python]

It do, but like I probably wouldn't know without having consumed Youtube

[agile temple]

we saw the wells and other things in the swamp and thought that's what we had to use it on and fooled around with these useless fucking buildings before giving in and searching it up only to find out they are COSMETIC

and we're supposed to use the key on dungeons

but again all that happened after we got the great idea to go exploring

[errant knoll]

They're cosmetic yes, that gives the place a sense of history.

Do you want the world to feel empty?

It's kinda not got that much in it as it is.

[keen trench]

"going blind" is not looking at Wiki / tutorials, not exactly "ingoring raven hints, in game lore and object/materials description", if you play this "super-blind" style, frustration is inevitable

[agile temple]

i want the structures to have some sort of use to them?

or at least properly communicate that they are completely useless

[errant knoll]

Yes, they give you a place to shelter without having to farm a bunch of resources to lay foundations down.

Because the resource costs of building ANYTHING in this game are quite expensive.

[valid python]

Most do have a use in spawners, loot, being a mostly pre-build FoB ect

[agile temple]

ah yes the swamp well which we spent 30 minutes trying to swim down into or drain to go down the STAIRS that were visibly there

i'm very thankful for the shelter it gave us as we were being hammered by swamp enemies

[errant knoll]

Again, probably a map generation failure

[keen trench]

well, for example, ruined buildings is a good way to put a portal so mobs can't see it and target it

[agile temple]

nope, the well is literally useless

[errant knoll]

Swamps are especially bad

It's not really a well if there's stairs going into it though?

it's clearly supposed to be a tower thats just spawned in too low.

[agile temple]

well whatever it was, the stairs were not accessible in any way

[shy marlin]

Except those towers are always below water

[errant knoll]

They're not, I've seen some that weren't

[shy marlin]

You might be thinking of something different than me then

The wells that have a chance to spawn a draugr elite are almost always submerged in water, it's how the terrain code works

[errant knoll]

I have to admit I've not looked at the code

[shy marlin]

Like there can be parts of it that are above water, but the vast majority of it will be below water

[nocturne wolf]

Locations are given a minimum altitude to spawn at so they can’t spawn underwater if they aren’t supposed to

[errant knoll]

Fair enough I'll admit I'm wrong there

[shy marlin]

If you really want to reach, they do have a purpose, they have a chance to spawn a draugr which means a chance for the draugr elite trophy which means iron sledge

[valid python]

I member seeing the well, swimming in it and assuming maybe there's a way to dive later or they're not supposed to be filled with water.

I know the first swamp I ever found was like a sliver of swampisland that has almost no space to walk and spawned the entire biome of enimies on the one spot. Approaching swamp from water is BLEH Next one I found had a nice medows patch 1 1/2 mini-maps away to FoB at

[errant knoll]

Still - history I guess. The swamps previously belonged to a people that were then crushed. Something submerged them? I'm not too knowledgable on the lore but weren't the draugr essentially punished for trying to challenge odin?

[shy marlin]

"Long ages ago, the world of Valheim was home to a race of proud and noble people. They built great towers that touched the clouds and delved deep into the earth for precious metals. But their pride was their undoing. They challenged the very gods and went to war against the Aesir and Vanir, destroying themselves completely. Great Odin leveled their cities and Loki consumed their mines in fire. Mighty Thor broke down their towers and Freya sowed their fields with salt tears. Now they are sunk many hundred of years deep. No song sing of their stories, and the earth has claimed their cities. But pride cannot be killed entirely and the warriors who fought in that final battle will not surrender until their bodies are dust and the dust long gone. They return as Draugr, unholy walkers in ancient armour, creatures of rust and despair. Break them, bury them, let them know they are dead."

holy wall of text

[errant knoll]

Yeah Swamp generation rules based on what I've read give them a pretty small amount of space to spawn in compared to a lot of other biomes and it's not unlikely at all that you will encounter a plains first.

On repeat playthroughs I frequently find a plains before a swamp - it's one of my complaints with the game.

[agile temple]

repeated playthroughs...

i couldn't be tortured to do another playthrough of this game 🙏

[errant knoll]

Yes because I actually do enjoy the game, funnily enough.

And you have the blessing of knowledge on a second playthrough you didn't have the first time if you went in blind.

You know better how to prepare for new biomes so you avoid those really bad situations where you die in an awful spot with no portal to help you

I'm not without complaints about the game, I have a few, but it gets a lot of things right for me.

[agile temple]

1 step forward 2 steps back

our valheim gameplay experience is basically just

[valid python]

You can lower death penalty. I did as soon as I had the option to.

My one complaint was that Dieing sometimes made you litterally too weak to get your stuff and soft-locked you unless you re-did the last biome

[agile temple]

-whoa what a cool game
-damn that elder boss was hard
-we should've refunded when we had the chance
-hey maybe this game isn't so bad
-we should've refunded when we had the chance
-hey maybe this game isn't so bad
-we should've refunded when we had the chance
-hey maybe this game isn't so bad
-(currently) we should've refunded when we had the chance

[errant knoll]

Yeah being able to portal metals, not losing gear on death, not losing skills, they're all settings you can turn on if a particular experience of the game isn't enjoyable for you.

There's resource generation multipliers (though the existence of this gives me very mixed feelings, not because I'm against people using it but I fear it's being used as a crutch to not need to balance the games resource economy).

[valid python]

Its useful for multi-player, where in a group will quickly use up 1,000's of wood/feathers ect and you need to keep them interested.

For like 2-3 friends I'd keep it 1.0 but for very large groups 1.5-2 so that 1 or 2 people can feasibly gather enough resporces for a whole group. Specilizing is a fun perk of larger groups.

[errant knoll]

When I mean used as a crutch to not need to balance the resource economy, I mean a crutch by devs not by players.

The games economy around things like gathering food and metals for making gear is pretty well balanced.

The economy for building structures though is extremely unreasonable on default settings in my opinion.

[agile temple]

i personally think the way metal mining was done is very boring

[errant knoll]

The cost of making a structure of any kind beyond just basic wood is totally ridiculous, even a small structure.

[agile temple]

mind numbing running back and forth and mining and carting it around and sailing it across the world

[errant knoll]

Thats my biggest complaint, and turning the resource gen up fails to adequately balance the game because you get too much of everything else then.

[agile temple]

if i ever were to do a second playthrough, god forbid, i would most likely turn teleport metals on

it doesn't add anything to the gameplay whatsoever just sailing or carting for no reason

[valid python]

Makes farming ubsurd XD

[errant knoll]

Theres a few strategies you can use without portals and thats planning to take some metals with you when you sail so that you smelt resources near the gathering site.

But i totally understand switching the settings

[agile temple]

i'm not exactly sure where to start our next session lol

i suppose we use whatever iron we have left and make a new boat

then sail back into the ashlands with our padded armour and...

[valid python]

Yeah thats what the settings are for. I like useing the boats and carts, so I keep the restrictions on, I don't like being death-looped out of my gear so I keep death penalty low.

[agile temple]

idk, hope for the best?

[errant knoll]

For what it's worth I've found every corpse run to be manageable even in no gear

[agile temple]

even with bonemass these guys wreck us and we still have to somehow get our items back and pull the boat out in time

[errant knoll]

It's only bad if I die and there's no portal for me to run through to get to the correct landmass

[agile temple]

we died kinda deep in the biome

and we have to be in and out before our second boat breaks or we're going iron mining

[errant knoll]

I did a nude run to grab my gear which died next to an elite enemy spawner, which spawned 2 starred variants of all the charred enemies

[agile temple]

in whatever gear we have before our padded.....

[errant knoll]

ANYTHING is possible

I'd suggest trying to get that portal setup before trying to recover your gear

[agile temple]

probably ig

man we were so hyped after our epic battle with the queen then i convinced him to just see the new biome, put the portal down and call it a night

now our motivation is just completely hammered

[errant knoll]

But I'm gonna be honest with you, I liked a lot of things about the Ashlands update.

Actually exploring the biome was not one of those things.

[agile temple]

🫠

[errant knoll]

It gives me the same feeling of dread I had whenever the Swamp was next but 10 times worse.

[valid python]

I'm slowing figuring out the ashlands.
"Oh, this place has slimes too! But these ones are lava-"
"no, my mistake they're red, blobby nukes that bounce around. Noted."

I can handle the charred chumps, The vultures, and the nuke-slimes. Still working out how to fight the rolly-poley nightmare fuel creatures and the lizard tanks.

[shy marlin]

Are you asking for tips or just thinkin out loud?

[errant knoll]

As with every biome prior to the Ashlands it gets a lot easier once you get the updated gear. After a while you can just kinda go aggressive and many of the smaller enemies will stagger

[valid python]

If you have tips for the two I'm struggling with go for it!

[errant knoll]

For the big Roly poly guy, he's easiest to Parry right when he starts using his rolling attack

Those big numbers you see being dealt to structures look intimidating but its chop/pickaxe damage, the actual damage to a player from that attack is low.

Also he's weak to electric damage

There's only one source of that in the game prior to ashlands I think, but it makes a good weapon to take into the biome.

Also a MAJOR tip, all enemies in the Ashlands apart from Charred and Vultures do friendly fire damage to the other mobs with at least some of their attacks, so try and bait the larger guys to hit eachother, or the smaller ones.

If you're struggling to find an opening to attack this might be what you need to do for a bit to thin the numbers down

[agile temple]

welp tomorrow's gonna be fun

if we even decide to get on

[nocturne wolf]

Mistwalker works well, the secondary attack deals very high damage against morgens.

[agile temple]

in some parallel, better universe we quit tonight and went to do something more productive with our lives, never to be plagued by this fever dream again 😔

fever nightmare*

[shy marlin]

Games should be fun, if you're not having fun don't play

[agile temple]

sunk cost 🫠

[errant knoll]

There's literally a large number of things you could do.

You could:

1. Not play the game

2. change the settings

3. use console commands to regain your gear and then try to resail into the biome a second time and get setup.

No one here would judge you for doing any of those things.

[agile temple]

we would judge ourselves, we wanna beat the game legit

[errant knoll]

The games not even finished yet

[agile temple]

if we cheat or quit then this stupid game beat us and we're not losing to a game with an enemy unironically called "deathsquito"

[errant knoll]

So even if you beat Fader to actually do that you'd still have to come back AGAIN to do the rest of it later.

And 1.0 could look very different to how it looks now in a lot of ways

[agile temple]

we're killing the damn biome boss and uninstalling until the next update in 10 years

[errant knoll]

Devs said 1.0 would not just be deep north but stuff all over the game.

[agile temple]

yeah well until that comes out (never) we technically beat it

[vocal rivet]

It certainly won't be 10 years, that's ridiculous.

[agile temple]

ah derek i thought people like you only existed in stories 😌

[vocal rivet]

What, rational, intelligent and generally friendly?

[agile temple]

ahahahaha yes that's exactly what i meant yup

[vocal rivet]

I hope so.

[agile temple]

mhm mhm. anyway until tomorrow i will have some nice nightmares

[errant knoll]

I don't think it's gonna take 10 years, I'm honestly thinking 2027 at the VERY latest rn

[nocturne wolf]

If you previously made any silver swords, bring them with you to ashlands. They do more damage than mistwalker against charred while costing less stamina, so they are very helpful there.

[vocal rivet]

I'd say 2026 personally, but it'll be easier to guess once the combat update is out.

[errant knoll]

I want to say 2026 but I know Deep north is more than just a biome update

So I'm being more lenient with the time frame

[vocal rivet]

Deep North is definitely just a biome. But 1.0 is coming with more than just Deep North.

[errant knoll]

well thats what I meant

1.0 isn't just "here's deep north, done".

[vocal rivet]

And there's 18 months between now and the end of next year, so, y'know.

[shy marlin]

ngl i suspect another first half of 2027 situation

[errant knoll]

I think very much it's likely to be first half of 2k27

[vocal rivet]

I don't know why the pessimism honestly, but yeah, we just don't know.

[errant knoll]

It's not pessimism

[vocal rivet]

It's very much pessimism to suggest it'll be 2027.

[errant knoll]

They should take however long they need on it, and I'm happy to wait.

I'm used to games being rushed to high heaven and then hating them.

So believe me when I say I'm not being pessimistic.

[vocal rivet]

I never suggested they should or are rushing.

[errant knoll]

If they need time I'm more than happy for it to be there.

Also I never said you suggested that.

I was just giving my reasoning for why putting a later date was not being pessimistic

[shy marlin]

idk it's not pessimism from me at least, I just think that 1.0 should address a lot of things and those extra things take time

[errant knoll]

YEah, exactlye

There's the bugs that still exist which need to be ironed out (mostly in the Ashlands, I don't know if there's bugs im not aware of elsewhere), the combat change to help sloped combat which I know probably isn't a small job, and there's a few things I personally would like to see, but I also am not expecting those in the game cause probably not everyone agrees.

But I would be happy to see some of those things.

Namely Swamp spawn logic could use some work I think, something (not sure what exactly, but just something) for the plains to give it more stuff, and tbh while I hate the Ashlands current implementation I'm not sure how you change it to keep the theme and identity without completely removing its teeth.

I just know that even though I can handle it there, I'm audibly groaning every single time a mob shows up for a fight because it gets VERY sloggish.

[valid python]

So how do you guys prefer your food? I'm a Red. Red, Yellow man myself. Though I know the pros prefer Yellow Yellow Red

[errant knoll]

Its weird cause looking at the game objectively while im not playing it, I love the Ashlands and the ideas within it.

Actually playing it is a very different matter

[agile temple]

More red is good but I like stamina if it's something I can parry

[errant knoll]

I'm a big fan of Red Red Yellow, but if I'm doing Eitr build then its probably yellow Blue Blue, and if I'm doing some sort of Hybrid build then its Feast Feast red.

I know my Armor setup in the Ashlands is very cringy to a lot of people but it worked for me.

[vocal rivet]

I prefer HHS but y'know, most options work.

[agile temple]

So far I like the aesthetic of the ashlands. You can definitely feel the "eternal war" thing going on there

[nocturne wolf]

I’ll use two stamina foods and one health food or one stamina, one health and one feast/balanced food.

Two health is pointless because I don’t let my health drop that much

[agile temple]

Reminds me of the burning undead soldiers from death stranding

[errant knoll]

Yeah, exactly - The Aesthetic is great, there's a lot of cool things within the Ashlands itself.

I just personally really don't enjoy how it plays out

[agile temple]

From my 5 minutes of experience I can also confidently say I hate it

[errant knoll]

When I enjoy the rest of the game a lot.

[vocal rivet]

You probably don't use bloodstone either then

[agile temple]

It's such an immersive biome that the enemies do this special attack where they heat up your cpu to melt it and kill your character permanently

[vocal rivet]

Lol.

[errant knoll]

And my lack of enjoyment doesn't come from not being able to do it, because I'm very capable of it, I just don't like being interrupted every 5 seconds when I want to do anything, like literally anything

[plush umbra]

Found out I can instigate a biome gang war by luring an enemy to a neighbouring biome and watching them fight🤣

[shy marlin]

SSS or noob 😏

[tepid prawn]

SSS is quite fun sometimes I agree 🙂

[nocturne wolf]

I have to at least give it a try

[errant knoll]

I once saw a Draugr village and a fuling village spawn right next to eachother and they were basically locked in an endless war.

[quasi latch]

I've genuinely considered this, but I still get hit too much

HSS in the meantime

[plush umbra]

I lured an abomination from the swamp to the meadows and a greyling tried to fight it, got one-shotted RIP💀

[errant knoll]

I run 2 Health and stamina because I feel like I don't need the stamina if I can just simply stat check most enemies.

The exception to this is Mistlands

Mistlands I will 100% run 2 stam because screw that terrain.

Stamina management is literally fine everywhere else with just 1 stam food, but not the mistlands, its ree

[quasi latch]

I prefer HSS because I like fighting aggressively and the extra regen is nice

[errant knoll]

Do stam foods actually buff regen?

I never felt like they did, just gave me a big bar for a big reserve.

[quasi latch]

Stam regen is directly tied to the size of your stamina bar

[errant knoll]

Apparently it is, yes.

I can not say I have EVER noticed this.

but I probably just wasn't paying attention enough lol

[quasi latch]

I'm a wiki binger 💪

[nocturne wolf]

The maximum regeneration speed doesn’t change, but stamina regeneration slows as you approach maximum stamina so with a larger stamina bar it is faster for longer.

[errant knoll]

Ok that makes sense.

Yeah checked the wiki, looked at the formula and while I can see the numbers written beneath it I ran the calculations myself to check.

That all makes sense

[vocal rivet]

You can trust the Wiki.

[errant knoll]

Right, but I wanted to do the calculation anyway, I like checking information for myself even if I trust a source because thats just a good thing to do in general.

[simple folio]

just built my first longship, time to go sailing and hopefully survive lol ⛵

[valid python]

I like my shoddy crude stone keep, but I'ma build a proper castle now that I have the better ashlands stone

[silver radish]

"Trust but verify" is a good motto to live by.

[ancient ledge]

anybody know the owner of the modpack called "pDung Community" on thunderstore?

[vocal rivet]

#mods-discussion might.

[near widget]

man the queen is insane

died twice before i got her

sheesh

[static scarab]

Breeding in this game is awfully long

[agile temple]

Alright it took less than an hour to get back to where I was

I appropriated a nice tower on the ashlands beach, parked my boat slightly out of sight and got my items back

Plus I got all the ingredients for the other boat back so it's not all bad

[agile temple]

everything in this game is awfully long

[static scarab]

It just feels like 3 in game days is insane 2 maybe but 3 is actually to much

[agile temple]

yeah well a game that makes you wait 30 minutes to tame an animal clearly has no respect for your time

[static scarab]

One wolf tamed one more to go

[agile temple]

ugh i died in such a terrible spot it's gonna be a nightmare getting my stuff back

[vocal rivet]

Where are you getting 3 ingame days?

[static scarab]

They started taming at the exact same time so idk why the second ones taking an extra day

[vocal rivet]

Taming takes 30 minutes.

[static scarab]

It agrrod onto literally nothing hence making it double

Actually pmo the amount of times my animals aggro onto nothing

Spent 5 in game days to tame 2 1 star boars bc it kept aggroing onto nothing

[vocal rivet]

It would have been something. Maybe even you.

[static scarab]

Nope wasn’t me I was crouched and no yellow it was just when I logged back in bc it aggrod before that

Straight aggro after loading back in

I had the same problem the other day idk if it’s just this world or it’s my mods

[vocal rivet]

Fire nearby?

[static scarab]

Nope

[vocal rivet]

Oh, mods.

[merry pebble]

Try to disable those and try again 🤔 if there Is no fire nearby and they don't see you there Is really no reason for them to be aggroed

[agile temple]

alright so my items are stuck inside a fortress that i climbed into so that i could explore

[static scarab]

yeah none of the mods mess with animals/taming

[vocal rivet]

You have no idea if they do.

[agile temple]

any time i try to put some stairs and climb to the top again i get jumped by every enemy camping there which includes but is not limited to a 1 star askvin, another askvin, 3 vultures and many many many ashen guys

[static scarab]

a couple days ago i had the same problem but i was running completly vinilla

so then actually i do know they dont mess ith them

[merry pebble]

They can break the game in ways completly unrelated to their intended purpose 🙂

[static scarab]

i was running vinalla a couple days ago and there was the same problem

[agile temple]

i am running out of minor stamina items to use to make that run over and over again

it might be over for my items

yeah im not seeing any way out of this

any time i try to place a staircase every single enemy attacks it at the same time and i can't even get to the 2nd one before it's destroyed

🤷‍♂️

yeah there's no saving this 😔

[near furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/hail-hydra-elmo-carry-gif-15402763

[agile temple]

god if only i knew how to progress

[near furnace]

plenty of youtube videos on the matter 🤔

[agile temple]

im in that phase of the new biome where i go around and kill 1 of every enemy and get random items and hope to get a crafting recipe that actually matters at all

[agile temple]

i'm playing blind

[near furnace]

then run wild and free

[agile temple]

🤔

[near furnace]

don't let chains bind you down

run like the wind

[agile temple]

again i got like 10 different items now, most of which didn't even give me recipes

i guess i'm gonna get another workbench upgrade or something, or maybe a new crafting station

i also like how munin and hugin came down 3 times to say everything BUT something useful

[near furnace]

best is to explore

valheim have this 3 things to do

Adventure, Battle, Construct

[agile temple]

I tried exploring into the fortress and that's how i got into this 30 minute rescue mission that wasted half of my stamina resources

Man I have no idea what else there is to do except kill one of those sonic the hedgehog roller things and try the fortress again?

though i really don't want to have to get my items back from there again

[echo wind]

And farming, and petting the good boiis

[near furnace]

funky side-activities 😉

[rotund bay]

try verifying the games files, idk if it'll work but its worth the shot

[echo wind]

Side-activities? I've been doing this thing all wrong then!

[tacit crystal]

Whaat, this game isn't farming and good boi petting simulator?

[near furnace]

you're enjoying the side-stuff 😉

[agile temple]

What to do against 1 star askvin?

[tacit crystal]

Tame it.

[agile temple]

?????

[tacit crystal]

Asksvins are tamable.

[agile temple]

of course they are

unfortunately i'm not patient enough to wait 30 minutes next to... that thing

i see... so the magic barrier doesn't protect you from the unstable lava rock explosion

i thought it worked like the fuling shaman where 1 hit is always fully blocked no matter the strength of the hit

[tacit crystal]

It protects against projectiles and fiery rain but it doesn't prevent mobs from coming in.

[tacit crystal]

Animal whisper mead is your friend.

If you tame 1 star and get many of them it guarantees that you never run out of their drops.

Also, note about them that (spoiler) ||they lay eggs which are pickable so you can take them to your base easily and build a pen for them||.

[nocturne wolf]

Jump around when they attack to safely hit their sides and back

[nocturne wolf]

It will fully protect a hit when it breaks, but lava rock explosions deal a special damage type called pure damage that can't be reduced by anything

[near furnace]

run 🤔

or kill it in mortal combat to the death

[heady parcel]

Explore the power of the Hoe my friend, it can be the key to many things

I used to think using the hoe to get to stuff (or away from things, as it were) was a little on the cheaty side, now in Ashlands I have fully embraced its awesomeness.

That and plopping down fireplaces all over the place to get a wee bit of peace

[agile temple]

i am talking about the blood magic bubble

[steel mica]

staff of protection

[agile temple]

huh really?

[nocturne wolf]

Yes. Every other damage type will be reduced to 0 if the shield is active, the amount of health it has doesn't matter.

[agile temple]

oh ok so it is the shaman spell basically

[nocturne wolf]

Yes, they use the same code

[agile temple]

is there a way to stop the ashlands from lagging so much

the particle effects everywhere are causing very annoying stutters

[heady parcel]

Oooh found some gems

Crikey, now to try and decide what to craft

[near furnace]

yes

beat the boss

but the issue isn't what you belive it is

[heady parcel]

Any recommendations on how to utilise the gems? I'm leaning towards Root Fang and nidhögg the thundering

[near furnace]

level them up early. don't level up a weapon alot, then apply the gem

[heady parcel]

Only have each on lvl 1 so far anyway, kinda figured upgrading and then applying a gem would set it back to 1?

[nocturne wolf]

Save bloodstones to be used in other crafting recipes. The other gems are only used to make weapons.

[heady parcel]

Yeah I got one red it went into the gem cutter

[nocturne wolf]

It's also used in Dyrnwyn if you feel like getting it

[heady parcel]

That's something I haven't unlocked yet 😄

Hmm, ||if you put green on the sword, can you get lucky and stunlock baddies until you kill them dead? Was thinking of putting green on the bow to use the root to keep stuff at a distance as long as possible. But in melee it might be good to get behind and whack away without them reaching me?||

[agile temple]

I will introduce these warlocks to a unique kind of pain

[heady parcel]

Nasty pieces of work those

[agile temple]

Is it just me or is the firebomb you get after the bile bomb kind of useless

[heady parcel]

It was very useful against the Queen at least. I've barely ever used them for anything else. Used up all my stores against her..

[agile temple]

No the bile bomb itself is good

The one you make from askvin stuff is bad

[heady parcel]

Ooh, isn't that just catapult ammo? Haven't even crafted one

[agile temple]

there's one that's catapult ammo then there's the basalt bomb or whatever it's called

it burns for 2 seconds then disappears, and does jack damage

[heady parcel]

Oh that, it's for walking on lava

[agile temple]

eh????

[heady parcel]

Getting to and from flametal ore out in the lava. Toss it on the lava and it makes a temporary platform

[tacit crystal]

I like Jade in ||mace and axes||. ||||

[heady parcel]

I don't use either 😂

[tacit crystal]

Sword works too, if you prefer them.

[agile temple]

of course there's ore in the lava...

[heady parcel]

Great big pillars of it. Sometimes they're out in the lava sea, so getting to them requires some platform hopping. Make sure you bring enough bombs to hop back after...

And don't fall off, it hurts

[tacit crystal]

Some are near edge, those are less risky.

[heady parcel]

Lightning slayer? So little damage, seems like wasting the gem

[tacit crystal]

I like 2h swords, Slayer slays. 💅
Thunder Nidhögg works too.

[agile temple]

I have to say I absolutely despise askvins and I wish I could put them in those hell meatgrinder facilities that modern day farm animals are put in until they devolve down to literal necks

[honest burrow]

walking through swap. Aprox 1 square meter of plains generated on the edge of it. Deathsquito vibe checks me out of nowhere

[agile temple]

At which point I would enter and stomp them until they go extinct

"Wild, frightened" don't give me that shit it spotted me 50m away and chased me down

[honest burrow]

My happiest point so far is running one over with a boat

I didn't think it was possible to make actual mosquitos look good by comparison

[heady parcel]

Ugh, durability of the lvl 1 weapons...

[near furnace]

I think they are frighten of your boots. and wants to squash them

you being inside said shoes.....

is a problem

[agile temple]

Somehow 19 flamental ore entered my inventory

I haven't mined anything in this biome at all

[heady parcel]

If you raided a fortress that's where you picked them up

[agile temple]

OHHH yeah I entered the fortress and quickly grabbed the chest and ran out

Man I thought the fortress was the next point of my progression :/

Now I somehow have to get a blast furnace into the ashlands, ughhhh

[heady parcel]

Or you bring the ore home instead, stone portals allow ore to go through

[agile temple]

stone WHAT

ok imma just stop asking to be spoiled lol

i'll uhhh... sail some iron in from the mistlands

[heady parcel]

That works too 🙂

[agile temple]

That original plains biome we skipped to, which used to cause us so much trouble, is so empty and devoid of life now

Any time I get a new weapon or staff or anything, I gauge its strength by testing it on the enemies here to see how easily it kills them

But now there aren't any enemies left...

[tacit crystal]

Or bring them from your base through a temporal stone portal.

[agile temple]

I don't have those!!!!

I hate this damn feather cape so much I keep dying to fire because of it

GOD FUCKING DAMN IT

I just got my items back and the dvergr mage clipped my toenail with his fireball spell which does 30 BURN DAMAGE PER FUCKING TICK

IT'S NOT EVEN STACKED OR ANYTHING

[tacit crystal]

When you get the mats for that.

[agile temple]

And now a gjall is camping my portal 😑

Why is it that all the gjalls and ticks only come out when I'm doing equipment runs

Also the fall damage mechanic is so incredibly broken

Like I'm sliding down a hill then I'll reach the bottom peacefully and safely and take 50 fall damage

Ah great the gjall destroyed my portal :D

Well my 5 minute soft tissue excursion is now gonna be my entire session today I guess

game does every fucking thing to prevent any enjoyment from coming out of it whatsoever

[charred gale]

It happens

[agile temple]

oh my fucking god

[heady parcel]

The game tends to reward planning and careful approach and punish you mercilessly for the smallest mistakes - and then it is so easy to get into a spiral of misfortune. Personally, I find it absolutely awesome once I overcome those clusterfuck situations, but when it is going on the frustration is real

[agile temple]

i had 1 singular hammer with me to repair the portal at the other place

which i did then this random fucking tick noticed me and aggroed on me and followed me over 3 ENTIRE MOUNTAINS

[charred gale]

Are you cooked

[agile temple]

until i finally reached my items and tried to pick them up but uh oh! my one hammer is in the way so i quickly drop it to pick the items up

and the stupid fucking tick which was still following me kills me

Is there an option where I can make it drop my entire inventory and swap it with the things I'm trying to collect from my corpse

[charred gale]

Not yet anyway… #suggestions

[agile temple]

God couldn't count the amount of times I've died because I tried to pick my items up and it opened up a fucking inventory menu instead while I have enemies up my ass who can one shot me

[charred gale]

I feel you

[agile temple]

literally a rage game and i'm not being convinced otherwise

[merry pebble]

As Derleth said, preparation is the key 🙂

[agile temple]

30 fucking fire damage per tick i'm actually crying hahaha

anyway the camp is cleared time to collect my 10 soft tissue

[heady parcel]

Thing with death runs is that you tend to drop your guard and take too great risks because you want to get your stuff back, and then there's the stress of that invisible skill drain timer. You want to get your shit back before the time is up, so you take risks and die again...and again, etc etc. I've been there so many times. My only advice would be to just be more methodical. Don't do death runs without eating. Keep a spare Fenris set to make you run faster. Pop a ratatosk mead. Bring a throwaway bow so you can pick off enemies camping your body.

[agile temple]

i can't find the crates

oh wait nvm i picked the tissues up

game went through zero playtesting before release

[heady parcel]

The playtesting is actually going on right now, you're the one performing it

[merry pebble]

Fortunately there was not full release yet 😄 and it is inherently incorrect statement since you are currently doing the playtesting basically

[heady parcel]

Early Access be early access, it's not just a sales pitch

[merry pebble]

And even if they meant release to EA it would be incorrect since there was a beta where the game was tested before 😄

[agile temple]

wish soft tissue had a more reliable source

[heady parcel]

Are you only raiding dvergr camps for them?

[agile temple]

yeah our petrified bones are dry

[heady parcel]

Holy crap, in the entire world?

[agile temple]

yup, in fact every world we've ever created

[heady parcel]

Gods below, that is a shitload of soft tissue

[agile temple]

all down the drain

[heady parcel]

Too many wizardling vikings in your gang by the sound of it!

[agile temple]

might be a dumb question but is magic ever viable at all in the slightest?

like you're lowering your defense to do objectively worse damage

[merry pebble]

It is the most OP playstyle currently in game soooo...

[agile temple]

trolling?

[charred gale]

Problem with the bow strat is that you only really get one shot before they all know where you are

[merry pebble]

Completely serious

[nocturne wolf]

Lowered defence is made up for by the staff of protection. I might be doing something wrong here but I often find melee deals more damage so you have a point there

It depends on what you’re fighting of course, against seekers magic is very effective but charred warriors not so much

And I don’t care about safety if I’m killing something slowly I hate killing things slowly

[heady parcel]

Yeah you need to pick targets with care. Having a huntsman bow stashed away helps in this regard

[vocal rivet]

Absolute nonsense.

[vocal rivet]

Bows are OP until you get magic then its magic all the way.

[tacit crystal]

Based on my successful bow only challenge perma run, yes I can confirm that too.

[jolly stag]

never tried this huntsman bow, but i read, that you can kill single targets in a group and the group is not coming to you, becaues it does not make such a noise to alarm the mob. maybe worth to try it

[heady parcel]

I suspect magic requires high skills though, or at the very least fully upgraded staves and acceptable skill levels. I found the damage from the ember staff absolutely pathetic compared to bow and melee, so it ended up as wall decoration

[heady parcel]

Yeah, it makes less noise when you hit mobs, so if you shoot them when they have walked away a bit from their buddies they won't notice

[jolly stag]

do the staffs more damage, if you do an upgrade? i thought it is only going up by skilllevel

[tacit crystal]

Most elemental staves do. Blood magic staves have other benefits: Dead raiser grants +1 max summons per quality and Staff of Protection grants +1 min duration to shield per quality.

[merry pebble]

Not really, but when you have higher skills its easily noticeable 🙂

[tacit crystal]

In case of (Ashlands spoiler) ||Staff of the Wilds||: ||quality increases the damage of the projectile but the damage raised vines deal depends on elemental magic skill level, which means it's not that necessary to upgrade it if you want to save some Jade stones||.

[shy marlin]

[honest burrow]

At first I was pretty annoyed with feeling that my world seed is basically cursed. Now I'm just amused that I found the bog witch before hildir

[agile temple]

God forbid I walk 5 meters in ashlands without aggroing 50 enemies of various types

[nocturne wolf]

It's intended to be much more combat focused than previous biomes

[honest burrow]

Oh boy, am only at swamps and thought THAT was a lot of combat

[tacit crystal]

Well, in swamp the mob density can surprise sometimes.

[heady parcel]

Got into this horrendous death loop on my first foray into the Swamp. Not far in some great big tree-thing stomped up to me and yeeted my sorry butt into deep water, where a cluster of starred leeches were waiting. When I got back it was nearly impossible to even reach the grave without dying, since it was quite a ways into swimming-depth water, and the commotion had attracted more creatures. In the end there was that abo, a horde of draugr and blobs (one of them a two-star archer) and a heap of leeches. I died so much I nearly smashed my pc and in the end I shut the game off and let it rest 24 hours. I came back the day after with a bow and killed the mobs one by one, kited the abo away and doubled back to get my stuff. Felt great - but the day before I was ready to quit for good. When shit goes badly in Valhaim it tends to do that in fat bursts...

[merry pebble]

Well, i would say they can group up about the same as enemies in BF, but they hit quite a bit harder 😄

[agile temple]

actually tweaking bcz of this game rn

I hope production gets cancelled and everyone involved becomes bankrupt

🙏🙏🙏

[vocal rivet]

What a crappy thing to say.

[agile temple]

Thank you for your input.

[shy marlin]

i honestly don't take him seriously anymore 🤙

[agile temple]

Got anything else to say, Derek?

[honest burrow]

I wouldn't go quuuuite that far, but the game do be very tilting time to time

It's a pendulum swing of "I'm going to punch my screen" to "This is peak"

[agile temple]

It has been so long since the "this is peak"

[merry pebble]

Take a break 😉

[agile temple]

Now all I see are the devs saying "fuck you" in 50 different ways

[tacit crystal]

Imagine saying that because struggling in a game.

Oh wait.

[heady parcel]

Yeah I'd say a break is due - and then perhaps adjust your tactics a bit. Ashlands is combat heavy and the enemies are no joke, it is not a biome that rewards rushing.

[keen trench]

it's like 10 hours straight that's going on like this, very rude statements, but quite high endurance

maybe more, what's like... 15?

[shy marlin]

honestly i respect the dedication

[agile temple]

You must have trouble counting

But I don't really expect much from this server atp

Just like the game, it's almost like it's the valheim server

[tacit crystal]

Nah, this is 3rd day in row with this play to play.

[merry pebble]

You sure type a lot here for not expecting much...

[quiet nymph]

Bad troll is bad

[shy marlin]

-->

[agile temple]

It can be cathartic

[keen trench]

#valheim-chat message this is 14h ago, but probably there's more, counting just right

[agile temple]

Ah yes you mean yesterday?

[merry pebble]

224 messages just today alone...

[keen trench]

yeh, i slept like 4 hours, maybe you paused there

[keen trench]

of wich 224 very flattering and respectful eheheh

[agile temple]

Oh wow look you've been texting here 5 months nonstop oh my god

[quiet nymph]

I've been waiting for deep north so I can get back into this game but remembering I never really touched ashlands after that update hmm

[merry pebble]

Oh we must be looking at different messages 😄 xD

[agile temple]

I respect the dedication ✊ 😔

[tacit crystal]

Then you have one new biome to conquer.

[shy marlin]

There's a combat update comin soon TM if you wanna wait for that, featuers a new armor set + weapon, and sloped combat fix

[quiet nymph]

Hmms

[tacit crystal]

And probably more, iirc Smiffe stated they usually show 15-20% of the content beforehand.

[quiet nymph]

I logged on a copy of my world the other day and went to my ashland portals, which were now floating over oceans and started falling apart the moment I loaded in, good times were had

[keen trench]

i mean kinda straight, on the same subject, and since i took a look in val-chat yesterday night, but i'm sure you alrady understand 🙂‍↕️

[shy marlin]

Ye, just stating what we know 🤙

[agile temple]

Can't even build 50m up in peace without a vulture just instantly killing me

Aaaand I died cause of the broken ladder physics

What a silly game

[nocturne wolf]

Voltures have 0% movespeed during their attack so stepping back will very consistently dodge it

[agile temple]

I couldn't cause I was climbing a ladder and it stood right in front of me and pinned me from moving while it did its attack

[nocturne wolf]

So you put yourself in a bad position and blame the game?

[agile temple]

I'm trying to climb back to my fucking portal ffs

[keen trench]

yup, confirmed, subject is the same
anyway
if you're stuck on a piece of game progression that long, insisting so long on it wont help, pause, distract and retry, works well for anything (studying, playing instruments, non-combat valheim task like difficult building etc.)

[agile temple]

THAT'S THE THING I DECIDED TO TRY AND BUILD AND REPAIR MY LITTLE ASHLANDS TOWER BEFORE EVERYTHING JUST LOCKS ON TO ME AND KILLS ME

[plain wraith]

sometimes i just fire up the game to pick berries lol

[agile temple]

I'd decided to start building 20 minutes ago but I would only make it 5m closer to my portal before another enemy 1 shot me out of nowhere

And now I came out again with the materials to start building but apparently vultures can spawn up my ass

[keen trench]

pause valheim, what's your second unfavorite game? maybe try that

[agile temple]

Idk I don't play that many games nowadays, maybe just fire up some r6 once in a while

I like how the game gives you the cape that makes you very weak to fire and then sends you to the fire biome

[vocal rivet]

It also gives you fire resistance potions.

[nocturne wolf]

There aren't many sources of fire damage in ashlands, a lot of enemies only deal physical damage

[agile temple]

Is there anything inside the fortress aside from the chest in the very center that has 3 items

[nocturne wolf]

There are other chests around the tower but I think they might have a chance to spawn, I don't know much about fortresses

[agile temple]

I like the difference between the mistlands dungeons and the ashlands dungeons

As in you have to spend hours searching for the mistlands dungeons but the ashlands dungeons literally broadcast their location with a lightshow essentially

Very kind of them. I appreciate that.

[blazing cobalt]

I am currently turning a fortress into my base (in hammermode)

[agile temple]

Knowing this game, I'm surprised I wasn't expected to dig in completely random locations across the entire ashlands biome to find hidden secret entrances to underground dungeons (it's a very innovative and fun mechanic that encourages problem solving and requires a lot of skill!)

[agile temple]

Don't enemies still spawn there?

[nocturne wolf]

The enemies only spawn from breakable spawners

[agile temple]

The infested mines still get spawns even if you clear the inside and outside

[heady parcel]

Aye but they are dungeons

[nocturne wolf]

They're the only location which does that, to make harvesting the royal jelly harder

[agile temple]

The royal jelly respawns?

[blazing cobalt]

I just broke the spawners and slapped down a few workbenches

[agile temple]

I've already broken both spawners but I'm having a hard time dealing with the enemies

[blazing cobalt]

I have so much royal jelly. I need to actually start using it in my meals

[still sedge]

Did valheim have frame generation? Since all the torches and whatnot take a lot of fps away from me?

[worldly violet]

So when im using a workbench to repair stuff, does it cost a resource? or am i doing the repairs for free?

[heady parcel]

Only use them for the health mead, but on the other hand since I hopped over to Ashlands I'm going through those in an alarming rate

[heady parcel]

Repairs are free

[worldly violet]

awesome, thank you.

[agile temple]

My best weapon I'd say rn is my arbalest

Mistwalker is good if I can parry whatever it is but the safest and strongest I have is definitely that

[nocturne wolf]

You don't have to parry everything

[agile temple]

I only parry big scary enemies

Cause lord knows I'm not stunlocking them with my demolisher

[nocturne wolf]

Enemies that are too big and scary (starred) could be too strong to parry, so be careful

[keen trench]

best thing about repairs is not they're cost free, it's they generate random musical jingles when you repair in rapid succession

[heady parcel]

Mistwalker's frost and spirit parts are so nice to have in Ashlands. I've crafted the next sword but after running with it once I went back to Mistwalker

[nocturne wolf]

Mistwalker secondary does so much damage against morgens

[quiet nymph]

I'll have to go try ashlands, my pre update portal bases were hanging over oceans so I'll have to redo those lol

[keen trench]

yup, seen first person huge (and nice) black marble castles crumble in water, at least not mine luckily

[quiet nymph]

I had a base at the coast of the pre update ashlands, and a base called "Mount Doom" which was the top of a very tall mountain in the ashlands, both are no ocean 🙂

[tacit crystal]

Same, but in survival perma run. 👀

[agile temple]

I know the game could never handle this level of graphics but imagine if you could actually see the destination of the portal through the portal, like in some minecraft mods and the portal games

[quiet nymph]

Thankfully these were basic wood portal bases lol, came through portal and fell into the ocean, and started watching the base slowly decay from lack of foundation

[agile temple]

Now that would be something

[quiet nymph]

That would be cool, some portal action (like the game portal) I've always said valheim is the most beautiful ugly game I've seen

[nocturne wolf]

Ugly?

[agile temple]

That's a good way of saying it

[keen trench]

ok, that's not so bad, i was seeing my friends game before joining it, fell from vtop of the castle, only luck greydwarves punched/stoned him to shore avoiding drowning

[agile temple]

[nocturne wolf]

I think the main problem for this kind of thing would be loading what's on the other side of the portal, not the graphics.

[quiet nymph]

I once went to a mountain top base and loaded into a snow golem destroying it 🙂

[agile temple]

Yeah that's what I meant

[quiet nymph]

The game/environments look beautiful, the character models and other stuff not so much, imho 😛

https://media.giphy.com/media/YeYYOD4pTe3nghd7Ch/giphy.gif

[keen trench]

yeh, i always trap a couple golems before spending time in building, hoping the spawn limit will hold

[nocturne wolf]

I love them
Especially necks they are the greatest thing ever made

[worldly violet]

so do you guys stick around near world spawn to make your base? i literally have no idea what im doing, i keep coming back cause the music is such a vibe 😛

[nocturne wolf]

I make a base in meadows for a neck pond but try not to keep it too close to the world centre

[quiet nymph]

My main base is usually in a meadows with secondary main base in whatever the current max zone is

[worldly violet]

max being end game?

[quiet nymph]

Yeah like now ashlands, previously mistlands, next deep north

[agile temple]

Ok how does one actually walk across the ashlands without getting chased by a valkyrie and a 1 star askvin and an ungodly amount of ash enemies

[nocturne wolf]

You kill them all

[agile temple]

I literally cannot make any progress because I keep dying as soon as I step foot anywhere

[tacit crystal]

Depends on location, I usually make my main base in some place with access to multiple biomes easily.

[agile temple]

Even with bonemass they just outdps me and give me 12 stacks of fire

[quiet nymph]

You can look up your seed and find a place like this if you feel like it

[nocturne wolf]

Try eikthyr, avoiding damage is better than tanking it

[agile temple]

And while I'm trying to run away they're knocking each other into me and damaging me more

[agile temple]

That would be great if the askvin wasn't literally faster than me at full spring

[worldly violet]

maybe when i decide if im gonna stick around with this game. my main issue is i dont have a lot of gamer friends who try new games. and im the kind of gamer that likes to avoid youtube video tutorials and try to go for a more social approach.

im also still super new, havent beat the first area boss

[quiet nymph]

2 friends of mine got me into this game but they were playing on another persons server so I started alone, on my own server.. Eventually they joined mine but then quickly moved on to another game

[agile temple]

Ah so you're going in the same way me and my friend did... 🥲

[tacit crystal]

What are you doing here? Go and keep playing before you get spoiled too much!!

[agile temple]

Hey you should make a boat and explore I promise it'll be really fun cause this game heavily rewards exploring like all survival games

[worldly violet]

=/ i know the pain.

[worldly violet]

i only came to ask a few questions, im good at not reading stuff that isnt for me

[heady parcel]

Ratatosk mead would help with that, and they can't attack when running so you can sidestep them when they attack. As for fire from the valkyrie - you need fire resist meads or avoid the bombardment, and keeping her at bay with frost arrows is a valid tactic

[worldly violet]

yes, iplay a few other games where i live off youtube videos, and its just not the same

[quiet nymph]

Yeah it sucked especially when we were doing progression together and I was waiting for them to help me kill bone mass but they just never felt like getting on anymore so I said screw it and soloed it lol

[vocal rivet]

It does. It's the primary way of progressing in the game.

[tacit crystal]

Okay, I was mostly kidding. Have fun!

[agile temple]

"Have fun" kekeke

[worldly violet]

yeah i can slightly relate, im doing a minecraft realm with a friend, but we play at different paces, do to our work schedules. and he almost gets salty when i do things when hes offline. ( which is 5 of 7 days )

[worldly violet]

i am so far lol

[vocal rivet]

You can wish people to have fun without the sarcastic quotes.

[quiet nymph]

God I hate that lol

[worldly violet]

yeah, its not the most chill vibe lmao. but its cool, i got other games, hes just into the 1 atm

[agile temple]

Derek can you please just never reply to me again

[heady parcel]

Valheim with a group of others is peak gaming, but dangit it is nearly impossible to get the scheduling aligned - so I end up playing 95% solo even though I run a server...

[agile temple]

My valheim character falling 2 meters and breaking his ankle on nothing is great

[worldly violet]

what do you mean by run a server? like the world is online for your friends 24/7?

[quiet nymph]

When I first started my friends were trying to kill Modor and I hadn't done that in my world yet, so I joined there server to do it and we threw our bodies at it for a good couple hours, was great fun lol

[vocal rivet]

Fall damage doesn't even apply until 4m. And even then it's capped at 100HP...

[heady parcel]

I run a dedicated server yeah

[worldly violet]

wild, idk that was a thing

[heady parcel]

The files are on the steam library under "tools"

[quiet nymph]

You can run off your PC or pay a third party to host one 24/7

[heady parcel]

Takes some twiddling to get a dedicated server up and running, but once it is up it pretty much runs itself

I had an old office pc that I wasn't using for anything else

[worldly violet]

and my character, does his stats transfer over and everything. i spent a nice bit of time jumping

[quiet nymph]

I prefer third party (They are usually cheap too) if I'm playing with friends, usually my kid, vs dedicated because they can't play if you aren't running it

[quiet nymph]

Valheim characters keep their progress cross servers, best part of the game

[tacit crystal]

This is free count... Krhm, server. Anyone can reply.

[agile temple]

He can, but he'll be blocked by next time

Just wanted to give a heads up, god forbid

[worldly violet]

awesome, that is really nice. im gonna try to turn on a couple friends to this game.

[agile temple]

spare them the pain

[worldly violet]

we're all old men, pain dosent phase us

[merry pebble]

Please dont try to spread your dissatisfaction to others just because you are annoyed

[heady parcel]

Ashlands music is a bit weird, it's like two or three tunes being played a the same time. I picture an undead trio plinking away at broken instruments with any synchronisation lost along with their lives

[agile temple]

only trying to do good here

[merry pebble]

Not remotely, you are pretty much only complaining for the past ~3 days

[agile temple]

I am trying to save the new player

[merry pebble]

No you are trying to scare them away because you are dying due to your own unpreparednes

[worldly violet]

so i got about 11-12 hours in the game, all ive done is run around, pick up sticks and hit stuff. i went into the Black Forrest for some Corewood. the music change caught me off guard, i was instantly nervous and had my guard up the whole time

[worldly violet]

ive been playing runescape since 2001. i can handle anything

[heady parcel]

Yeah the music is often cue to something happening

[quiet nymph]

Have you met a forest troll yet 🙂

[worldly violet]

no, only bumped into those stronger goblin guys, the ones that drop eyes. im not at HQ so i cant check the name

[keen trench]

yeh those are quite dangerous at early meadows stage, good thing you can easily outrun them (i'd recommend that for now)

[worldly violet]

they're in the first area lol?

[merry pebble]

Greydwarfs 😉

[quiet nymph]

Their the first "harder" mob you encounter

Especially the log wielding ones lol

[worldly violet]

oh, i was gonna show yall my map, but i cant share images yet.

[keen trench]

you can in https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1202267437647527977 and then link it here

[merry pebble]

If I may have a suggestion, lets not spoil too much (like the trolls) 😄 first, blind, playthroughs are very precious

[quiet nymph]

Ah, good point

[worldly violet]

https://discordapp.com/channels/391142601740517377/1202267437647527977/1384181112972251267

[keen trench]

yup, right

[agile temple]

Jesus christ these warlocks don't die for shit

Arbalest, demolisher, mistwalker, frost staff. Anything I throw at these guys bounces right off

[merry pebble]

They have the same hp as warriors

[heady parcel]

I usually try to keep them as far away from me as possible. Frost arrows ftw

[agile temple]

And are nigh inapproachable

[tacit crystal]

They resist frost damage unlike other charred.

[heady parcel]

Still slows them though

[tacit crystal]

Silver arrows are useful against them.

[keen trench]

it's a good patch of meadows, for the first time play, follow the raven's hints and stick to meadows until you geared up a bit and maybe even killed first boss, black forest incursions to get some corewood is ok but be prepared for danger and run back, playing the first time just by in-game hints is beautiful experience, if you missed some they're all listed in your inventory menu (top right raven icon)

[heady parcel]

Never even crafted silver arrows, feels like such a waste of silver to shoot it at things

[merry pebble]

Well you dont use it for that much stuff 🙂

[agile temple]

So I guess there's no limit to how many minions the warlock can have

[tacit crystal]

At that point you don't really need silver for anything else, Spinesnap plus Silver arrows melt them charred.

[agile temple]

This one fortress has basically tripled in population from the warlocks alone

I don't really understand how sneaking works

[worldly violet]

thank you. i have been reading them, and the runestones every time i see them. i do use the wiki on the side, like to find that corewood came from pine trees. i got some leather gear. haven't upgraded anything yet really. Bone fragments are hard to come by it seems. i havent checked the wiki on them yet. do the nodes replenish like the others? ive been trying to mark them on my map.

[merry pebble]

You will get good source of the fragments in next biome 😉

It becomes trash item quite quickly

[tacit crystal]

Those bone frag nodes don't respawn afaik.

[tacit crystal]

Until you need them for some more things later.

[agile temple]

just realised asksvin literally means ash pig

[worldly violet]

okay, well, ill stop marking them until otherwise, ty.

[agile temple]

Holy you gotta see the maneouver I just did

[keen trench]

yeh, bones are super rare in meadows, but not for long, you'll pile stacks of them, and it's ok to get to the first boss without the upgrades that requires bones... by nodes you mean the metal ore nodes, if so no, no ore respawns (just the single pebbles of flint in meadows do)

[merry pebble]

Mate you really should start streaming or something... Not write everything here...

[agile temple]

I just need something to distract me whenever I'm paused or loading through portals or respawning

[tacit crystal]

One must enjoy pausing and writing essays in between.

[keen trench]

also how's your knowledge about food and special states (rested for instance)?

[worldly violet]

i guess i called the skeletal remains a node, cause i was unaware if they replenished. i did find some copper, i marked on the map. you're saying that wont replenish also?

[agile temple]

How did I die to burning with a fire res mead

[tacit crystal]

Copper won't, but you will find more of them.

[keen trench]

oh those, nope, they don't

[agile temple]

I want a refund on this mead

[worldly violet]

i try to always have 3 food active, and rest near my fire as often as i can

[merry pebble]

Because you dont read what it does?

[tacit crystal]

It makes you resistant, not immune.

[agile temple]

Yes I know but still that's crazy bad luck

God forbid I finally kill this damn warlock!!!

Is getting 2 one star warlocks unlucky or just natural fortress generation

(And one more normal warlock)

[keen trench]

that's good, fundamental thing that's not immediate to know in super early game, rested will be your best buff for the whole game, and duration can be increased, the fact you got some corewood will help that, look at furniture options, it's not just for looks

[nocturne wolf]

It's lucky

[agile temple]

Okay I was told that enemies don't respawn after I've killed both spawners in the fortress

"So that was a fucking lie"

An entirely brand new warlock full hp out of nowhere

[tacit crystal]

Not from the spawners, there can be warlock on top of the central tower.

[agile temple]

And it fell down now of all times?

[worldly violet]

yeah, i try not to stay out at night time, or at least head back when i need the rest. i assume i could just set up small camp sites along the way, as i would in a game like Minecraft. and i only grabbed the Corewood to make that Stagbreaker lol

[tacit crystal]

Yeah, they sometimes gets pushed from the spikes on top.

[nocturne wolf]

Heading home at night and staying rested at all times are good habits for the entire game

[merry pebble]

No, the game spawned it specifically now since the "piss off mr Hayk Նահապետ" algorithm finally caught up... 😒

[tacit crystal]

Smiffe ordered a quick sneaky patch.

[keen trench]

yup, that's good, don't know about Minecraft, and "nomading" with outposts is totally fine, but settling and having a "main base" (or more) is much of use in Valheim, as you progress more and more additions will be available and some of them stack their bonuses when they're put in close range

[agile temple]

Wouldn't be surprised atp

[worldly violet]

well, when i play minecraft, i have my main base, but ill set up smaller outposts near other biomes so its easier for me to gather the stuff i want, and have a safe place to lay low when i need to, or just restock and keep going. but currently i live in a derelict shack, with a couple beehives outside.

[merry pebble]

That is how i play Valhiem pretty much 😄

[keen trench]

that's a good way to go, also good thing you looked for bees early, ever-useful resource, soon after first boss you'll unlock new stuff an will have new good means to organize your base/outposts as you find more useful

[worldly violet]

okay, so i got a few transferable skills 😛 nice

[worldly violet]

yeah, i found them on accident lol. but now that i know ive been keeping my eye out.

[tacit crystal]

Traveling also becomes easier at one point soon.

[agile temple]

the fortress is finally clear

[worldly violet]

i did see a few portal like screenshots. i assume its that?

[agile temple]

oh my lord

[keen trench]

for now it's literally the best food item you can get, but stack it up as you'll need it, i usually stop looking for hives when i get 5, usually enough for me

[worldly violet]

interesting, ill have to take a deeper look into the food section on the wiki later. i think ill take some time today and set up my area. idk if i read this runestone wrong, but i think it was telling me i can breed boars. so maybe a small pen, and a storage room.

[agile temple]

The asksvin head bash hitbox is extremely broken

You can be very visibly away from it and it'll still hit you

For a truckload of damage no less

[keen trench]

yup, boars will be very useful for awile, now it's super early game so wandering around is ok, soon after first boss you'll unlock a bunch of stuff that need settling and fencing, but yeh, before Eikthyr you can just maybe anticipate a bit the boar thing (if you find a starred one don't kill it and keep it like gold, they'll run away from equipped torch if you spot one and it's not the right time to tame)

[worldly violet]

i haven't started doing anything with them, besides just collecting the food and scraps. but i have a nice bit of food and scraps atm. i clearly misunderstood the scale of the game. but i defo need a storage room, i already got everything crammed in my shack its pretty rough looking tbh. 😂

[agile temple]

ooookay a valkyrie just spawned inside my base

[keen trench]

yeh storage is never enough, there could be some materials that will exceed with no much use, but so later in game, and also maybe, since game isn't finished yed (on Ashlands update 3 or 4 boxes of something i kept "just because" turned out to be useful in end game)

[agile temple]

literally stepped out to go to the fortress just 50 meters away, got jumped by 2 asksvins and 3 marskmans out of nowhere despite there being no spawners around, i ran back home and boom, valkyrie

and now i'm being sniped the moment i exit the portal

[worldly violet]

so, as a long term Runescape player, and Minecraft. im a hoarder. i keep everything i can, boxes for individual items if i can. its an addiction at that point really.

[merry pebble]

Hehe, you will need a lot of chests 😄 but i can totally understand

[keen trench]

it took first two world seeds (well 1 and a half) to violently force myself to leave a good bunch of stuff on the ground while exploring 😁

[worldly violet]

currently in my minecraft world, i have 5 main storage building. for different materal types. Stone based. Central storage, food, and potions and one for stuff from the End. and i keep adding more, soon will be a wood storage, and mopb drops. the list goes on.

[keen trench]

eheh, i can see a not much different future in Valheim

[quiet nymph]

I love minecraft too, but I've had to start over so many times to play with friends its lost its magic

HOw many times do I need to find a elytra and build creeper/xp farms lol

[worldly violet]

the world im on, when my buddy stops playing that will probably happen, ive put a lot of time into it. and i wont beable to pick up a co-op world for a long time after.

[quiet nymph]

I joined one world where they had been playing a looong time, so much that they had killed the dragon like 15 times and finding a elytra was nearly impossible

[worldly violet]

30,000,000 blocks in the end, ive gotten about 12 sofar, and i just keep setting up outposts along the way. my bro is on the switch, so im playing bedrock, we have some addons to make it a little bit more fun, and easier on him cause hes pretty new. but we can make teleport locations. so as long as he goes the opposite way i did he should be good 😛

[quiet nymph]

Lol yeah I know its not really impossible but when you find 10 end cities in a row that were already looted you get discouraged

[worldly violet]

yeah 100%, i could only imagine.

[agile temple]

Alright well I British Empire'd the fortress

The tower I colonised was good but it was getting attacked too frequently so I might move all my stuff to my very legally owned fortress

Finally some peace in this biome 😌

[pliant hatch]

You mean you let the Dvergr take the fortress, then took over to protect it against the charred hordes with their Valkyrie and Volture Airforces and eventually forgot to return it to the Dvergr?

[shell basin]

Quick question, whats better for the first boss Eikthyr, bow or spear and sheild?

[pliant hatch]

Can use both. Can even use a knife and shield if you want to.

[shell basin]

Ok, will do so thanks 🙂

[worldly violet]

Just beat Eikthyr, recording is too big or id share lol

[agile temple]

Let's just say that's the only boss who'll go easy on you

A tutorial boss, if you may.

[worldly violet]

thats good

[shell basin]

Ok

[agile temple]

Barely saw any dvergr and they left me for dead more often than not when I did, I earned that fortress through hard work and many, many lives

British Empire 😊

[tacit crystal]

Just get Nitro.

[worldly violet]

i have nitro lol

it caps at 500mb

[pliant hatch]

Upload it to YouTube and post the link in https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1202263390056357928

[worldly violet]

maybe, thats still going a bit outta my way to share a clip of me killing something yall must have seen a dozen times by now

[keen trench]

nah it's fine, we know the story, so it's not some random youtuber's stuff

[pliant hatch]

Doing it yourself or seeing someone else doing it is a big difference.

The level of pride is one thing, for you the level of pride is a lot higher as it is for those of us who've killed that boss multiple times.
Doesn't mean you don't have to share it, though.

[worldly violet]

i respect that, i always tell people that in Runescape, idk if its lvl 2 or 200m, i congratulate them all the same

[errant knoll]

Realistically for Eikthyr it doesn't matter, as long as you engage with basic game mechanics a little bit (make some armor, weapons, eat food, get the rested buff) you can stat check Eikthyr without needing much skill with regards to dodging/blocking attacks.

[charred gale]

beat him up naked

[errant knoll]

That doesn't remain true forever. Eikthyr is less of a boss really, more of a test of "have you picked up the fundamentals? Good, you pass".

[charred gale]

I once fought three at once with starter gear so

He isn’t exactly difficult

[blazing cobalt]

I sometimes come back to previous bosses just to see how much more powerful I am.

[errant knoll]

He is not hard at all and there's a lot of room to make mistakes, AS LONG as you're making sure to eat food and stuff

[shell basin]

Ok

[errant knoll]

Elder I would call the first real boss of the game, assuming biome relevant gear he can be a lot more punishing for mistakes, although he isn't that bad

[quiet nymph]

I remember going up against Eikthyr vastly over prepared for how easy he was

[errant knoll]

Yeah on new playthroughs of the game Eikthyr is frequently dead before day 2 ends for me, and I'm not particularly a speedrunner.

[blazing cobalt]

Funny story with Elder. I saw suggestions saying I should build a base under the platform as it makes for a great bunker (I did and it was my main base for awhile). Anyway, I started digging down when I realized I should actually fight the Elder first. However, when I summoned him he spawned in the hole I made. I just stood at a distance shooting him while he couldn't come to me.

[errant knoll]

Yeah, bosses are pretty cheesable with stuff like the hoe and building traps for them.

I kinda wish boss altars had special properties on them that prevented player actions like building or using the hoe close to them

But also at the same time, i just choose not to do those things so it doesn't impact me that much either way

[blazing cobalt]

I liked the Queen boss fight as she was contained in her temple, but somehow when she was at quarter health she glitched out of the dungeon and got outside. That was a nightmare to hunt down, but thankfully there was a dvergr outpost nearby and they took care of her adds.

[light moat]

That’s so cool, I wish that would happen to me lol

[errant knoll]

Oh yikes, yeah that's weird.

My first time vs the queen I unintentionally cheesed her

I didn't go into the fight with a cheese strat in mind but its what ended up happening.

[blazing cobalt]

She was destroying anything in the temple that could be destroyed, so I think she managed to get her hotbox into the entrance and the game sent her out

[shy marlin]

Fader kinda does btw

Within the arena there's a mystical force

[blazing cobalt]

I tried tanking her but then switched to the fire staff and some campfires.

[errant knoll]

Enemies generally can't go through those instances entrances, what's likely to have happened is she clipped through the floor because dungeons and instances aren't separate Maps, they're just placed really high in the sky.

So she clipped through the floor of the dungeon and fell into the world most likely

[worldly violet]

lol, i just got timed out trying to share that video of me killing Eikthyr 😛

[blazing cobalt]

Really! Now I wish I could fly and see the dungeons from the air.

[pliant hatch]

Moder altar is a big pilar sticking in the ground, so no chance to mine a hole for safety under it. Though a small trench around the pilar might work.

Yagluth's altar is often close to water level, so no much chance to mine a large space under that as well.

[errant knoll]

If you use dev commands to let yourself fly you can see them in the sky.

[pliant hatch]

Oh, did you try to embed it perhaps?

Just paste the "raw" link in the channel and it should work.

[errant knoll]

It's also possible for a player to build a few things inside a dungeon to clip outside it

[blazing cobalt]

I forgot about that. How do you turn on commands?

[worldly violet]

ahh that makes sense lol

[errant knoll]

There's a setting on steam you need to change before you can do it in game, I don't remember the exact process

There'll be plenty of guides online for that.

[pliant hatch]

There's a whole page at the Valheim wiki dedicated to it.

Just search for "develloper commands" and you'll get it shown up.

[merry pebble]

https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Developer_console 🙂

[errant knoll]

I just remember my boyfriend found them in the sky while he was tinkering with dev commands and asked me what they were. I worked out they were the dungeons lol

[errant knoll]

Did not know that, that's pretty cool. I made no attempts to change any of the arenas.

Fader doesn't require me to change it, because there is no arena left by the time we're done 🤣

Was pretty epic to see that after the fight was done, every single feature within viewing distance was just completely gone.

[charred gale]

Speaks numbers on his strength

But also yours for defeating him

The one thing still standing is you

[shell basin]

I have beaten Eikthyr, now its time to upgrade stuff to go fight Elder

[pliant hatch]

Make sure you got all the food items. They're worth the time invested in it.

[errant knoll]

Is it really my strength or is it ||the strength of endless trolls I keep summoning from the sky to kill him while I cower in a corner?||

[warm sandal]

it is a viable strategy 😄 everything at your disposal can be used to get it done. In my book anything that is in the game that can be used to kill a boss is just fine to be used 😄 I aspire to get better and try out different methods but I have been known to shoot elder with a heck ton of fire arrows when I was starting out playing this game 😄 no shame in that... it is a learning curve 😄

[errant knoll]

Oh I know it's viable, difference with shooting fire arrows is at least the elder is still engaged on you personally.

[static harbor]

just beat the elder
Is there dual wielding in this game?

[nocturne wolf]

Some two-handed weapons in later biomes have a separate model shown in the left and right hand

[errant knoll]

Yes, but it's probably not the implementation you would want

I say that because it's not what I would want dual wielding to be.

[static harbor]

I meant an 2 axes for example

[nocturne wolf]

Four of those weapons are two axes

[static harbor]

oh

[static harbor]

why not?

[errant knoll]

It's not "get 2 separate weapons, mix and match how you dual wield" but rather "here's a 2 handed weapon class, but its model is dual wielding".

I'd love to be able to mix 2 separate one handed weapons together for different dual wield combinations.

[static harbor]

you mean like a dagger in one hand and a sword in the other style?

[errant knoll]

Yeah, I'd love to be able to do stuff like that.

But as it is the dual wielding is functionally 2 handed weapons with fixed models and unique animations for them.

[quasi latch]

You can dual wield shield + 1h weapon

[static harbor]

yeah ik

[errant knoll]

That's not really what people mean when they say dual wielding though

[quiet nymph]

I only dual wield a knife and a fork

[pliant hatch]

You can dual wield any 1 handed weapon with a torch

[errant knoll]

Yeah and what happens when you use the attack command while dual wielding?

Does the torch actually do anything?

Or does it just sit there?

[static harbor]

I just wanna dual wield axes

[pliant hatch]

It gives blunt damage when it hits something.
Not certain about fire damage, but it won't surprise me if it does that as well.

[errant knoll]

Well dual wield axes are in the game thankfully

[static harbor]

ohhh alright, but are they late game?

[errant knoll]

You can do your best Olaf impression from league of legends with the Thundering Berserkir Axes

[static harbor]

lol i guess

[errant knoll]

They are. Someone earlier said there were 4 weapons which are 2 axes.

I personally would say they were stretching that number a bit.

I would say that its 1 weapon with 4 variants. They're not really different weapons.

Tl:dr is it's a weapon called the Berserkir Axes. And there's 4 variants, the vanilla variant and 3 different elemental variants. The elemental variants are just upgrades of the vanilla variant

If you ever played wow it would be kinda like claiming your weapon was totally different now just because you put a gem socket in it or applied an enchantment.

They're enchantments. It's the same weapon.

[tacit crystal]

Technically they are their own weapons, 3 of them uses the basic Flametal variant as ingredient. 👆

[thorny panther]

You need mats from the (current) last biome. And you can't get to that biome without the drops from the second to last biome's boss. And accessing that boss isn't just gathering a few trophies. It's deadly work to try to do early.

[errant knoll]

We can talk technicalities all we want but I think it would be ingenious to claim every single ashlands weapon was 4 different weapons when really the mechanic is they're all 1 weapon, with 4 variants, 3 elemental variants with the same enchants for the element, and a vanilla variant.

[light moat]

Still, the berserkir axes are super cool 👀

[thorny panther]

The challenge run youtubers will find a way but it wouldn't be fun for the average player

[errant knoll]

Oh absolutely, I'm not knocking the berserkir axes.

I just think that when someone says there's 4 dual wielding axes, and they don't use an asterisk with that statement, they're not entirely being honest.

Technically they are, but with the way the game plays out not really.

[tacit crystal]

Thunder axes, Primal axes, Berserkir axes, Bleeding axes... That's how I sort them.

[errant knoll]

Yeah I take the thundering berserkir axes with me pretty much everywhere lol.

[maiden granite]

Materials cost spreadsheet is missing flint spear, crazy!

[agile temple]

Can stone portal connect to regular portal

One way material transfer

[quasi latch]

yes

[agile temple]

Oh hell yeah

[undone forum]

Stone portals are a game changer

[agile temple]

I mean I'm not too particular on having to raid another fortress but hell yeah

[undone forum]

Try putrid holes

[agile temple]

Putrid what

[undone forum]

Oop

[nocturne wolf]

They look like troll caves and contain molten cores

[agile temple]

What else do they contain...

[nocturne wolf]

Not much

A tasty new bukeperries alternative

[undone forum]

Carapace arrows

[agile temple]

Imma enter one of these holes and get destroyed by something putrid

[nocturne wolf]

Or destroy it

[agile temple]

Oh well time to find troll caves ig

[nocturne wolf]

It's nice to see you've made progress, are you enjoying the game at least a little more now?

[undone forum]

Or die depending on a whether or not its starred

[nocturne wolf]

Morgen attacks are pretty easy to dodge even in a tight space. Jump to the side when the morgen swipes, and roll through the bites. Just be careful with your position so you don't get stuck in a corner, where you won't have a side to jump to with those swipes.

And even with stars the rolls are weak enough to parry

Morgens don't get any bigger with stars which is great because their collision is already super easy to get stuck on

[undone forum]

Once iolite weapons are made morgens start to seem like overgrown trolls with how easy they get to kill

[nocturne wolf]

Why do the limbs have to be separate? can't it just be a smooth cylinder like everything else

[undone forum]

Because the devs cough smiffe cough wanted to make your life harder

[agile temple]

Oh it's a morgen

I mean I half expected that but I'm sad I looked haha

I've died so many times my skills are all basically starter level now

There should be a button to mix stacks in your inventory

Can clear up space after grabbing your corpse run items

[agile temple]

Huh so turns out the fancy lights in the central tower were actually molten cores and I could just make the stone portal straight up

[honest burrow]

Bonemass spawned right next to the bogwitch. Can I cheese it with the barrier?

[pure kayak]

when did draugr start having helmets?

[agile temple]

the flying enemies in this area annoy me

i retract that statement, every enemy in this area annoys me

once you're seen by a single one, it's over

then they fight you and make noise and attract everything in the entire biome then boom, you're already dead

[undone forum]

Yeah, everything in the ashlands is designed to kill you

[near widget]

it took me 50 minutes and two deaths to kill queen

am i just bad

[undone forum]

Nah, queen is tough or at least it was for me

[errant knoll]

Since no one else here seems to have mentioned it, pointers for a side quest can also be found inside putrid holes, though its random whether or not they have one.

You can break things to find a couple of different sorts of metal.

Also once you, ahem, know it's "safe" they make a great safe-zone to recover hp and stamina if the biome is getting on top of you. Gives time for enemies to de aggro as well