valheim-chat

[gray cairn]

Or like kilns give 1-1 wood, coal, and burning is 3-1 wood coal.

I'm not a game dev, that might be a terrible ratio lmao, just throwing the concept as an idea

[gray cairn]

Thjs would be the most realistic solution.

[silent oriole]

that is fair. but i disagree with calling it an exploit

same like with the destructor thingie. it bypasses kilns aswell 🤷🏻‍♂️

[gray cairn]

Yeah it's just how I was expressing it, I wasn't trying to state anything specific with that term or wtvs.

[silent oriole]

(i mean we can't just burn forests for coal sadly. would be nice but at the same time terrible)

[keen trench]

uhm yeh, that would be a good balance (general idea, no game dev either so dunno about specific ratios)

[silent oriole]

if you dislike wood, just turn yggdrasil wood piles into coal 😂

[gray cairn]

That's pretty much how I see it. A stack of wood is made up of multiple trees, just sneezing some sparks on a thicket shouldn't net you a mountain of dry potent coal (exagerating here, but u get what I mean)

Just how I prefer to play, it's a video game, so it's super chill for people that prefer it the way it is.

[gray cairn]

World tree that connects all realms?

No.

World fuel that connect my factory.

THE FACTORY MUST GROW.

[silent oriole]

his fault for growing where he shouldn't

[summer hinge]

I'm sure there's a more efficient method - Ada probably

[keen trench]

in the mountains near here there's some reconstructed kiln structures from middle ages archaeological findings, awesome old engineering for efficient coal, so realistic yes, but also it's a videogame yes, no big deals 😁

[gray cairn]

My thoughts exactly

[vernal karma]

we have to wait for 1.0 til christmas right chat

[heady parcel]

Nobody knows, that's the earnest truth. Could be Christmas, could be later, we just don't know.

Also, a major release just before Christmas is generally a risky thing. Lots of people with free time wanting to play the bejesus out of the game - and devs on leave over the holidays too, so can't fix things if something is broken... Seen it happen, and it gets ugly. Now if they are confident their release candidate for 1.0 is stable enough they could risk it, but if there is a winter release I'd expect it earlier in December or after New Year. But until they make an announcement it is pretty much pointless to speculate.

[vernal karma]

it better not be later

i will fume

[heady parcel]

It will come when it is ready, no sooner and no later. In the meantime I got lots of stuff to do, so I don't really care to be honest.

[vernal karma]

releasing in early december would be cool to fit the theme, and then you get to play deep north in christmas and the whole winter, and the devs get to patch things.

Can we get to a settlement on that

[heady parcel]

To change the subject - I adore the look of the Flametal Shield. Blackmetal shield was too weird with the chains, and the carapace shield didn't even look like a shield, so coming back to a proper round viking shield - love it!

[analog pine]

Argh another ping from this server, and no news on 1.0. I know perfection takes time, but it got my hopes up a bit so I could get back to my necromancy. 😦

[near furnace]

I would opt out of the news role if that's a problem. 1.0 is still not anytime close

[gray sand]

If you run fast every day it will be closer due to relativity 😏

[analog pine]

One day...one day, my undead army will overtake the deep north.

[nocturne wolf]

Or hopefully it gets replaced with a neck army

[gray sand]

Summon Undead Neck staff 👀

[heady parcel]

Asksvin are pretty much overgrown, tameable necks

[nocturne wolf]

But for undead necks, the necks would need to have died previously

[red heron]

guys im new player any tip vs frozen ?

[heady parcel]

Vs what?

[gray sand]

Let it Go.

[red heron]

I mean playing on a hill

[nocturne wolf]

The status effect from the mountains biome? Go to swamps first and you should be able to make frost resistance mead.

[gray sand]

This makes even less sense than frozen.

[red heron]

and how can i craft frost resist gear ?

[gray sand]

Have you been to the Swamp?

[red heron]

i kill the 2nd boss

[gray sand]

Yeah, you aren't supposed to be in the Mountain yet.

[nocturne wolf]

What did that boss drop?

[gray sand]

The Elder drops the SWAMP Key --> Which is your hint of where to go next.

[red heron]

nothing olny tropy and 1 key

[gray sand]

Read the name of the key...

[red heron]

ye i know i can open the dungeon

[merry pebble]

So you know you should go to swamps 😄

[idle storm]

you have to go die in the nasty, muddy, undead-filled hellhole first (and make draugr-gut sausage) before you can go die in the nasty, frozen, wolf-filled mountains 😁

[red heron]

😄

[heady parcel]

Aright, in the swamp where those dungeons are, there are other things with which you can make a frost resist mead.

[idle storm]

(i'm joking, it's not that bad)

[heady parcel]

Assuming you have made a fermenter so you can make meads?

[red heron]

i thought i could get irons on the mountain and be stronger

[heady parcel]

Iron comes from the dungeons

[gray sand]

The Mountain does not have iron.

[red heron]

btw i have dragon egg

[gray sand]

So?

[red heron]

good for ?

[idle storm]

boss summoning

[gray sand]

Stuff you're not doing yet.

[heady parcel]

It's for summoning the mountain boss, save it for later

[idle storm]

or decoration

[gray sand]

Either follow the order the game lays out for you and enjoy the simplicity, or do things out of order and figure it out yourself 🤷‍♂️

[heady parcel]

The "Swamp key" kinda hints that the swamps are where you should be headed after spanking the Elder. Skipping biomes can be done - if you know what to do and how to do it, not recommended first time you play. Go explore the swamp mate, you'll find what you need for the mountain.

[tight wigeon]

I love opening the valheim subreddit to scroll through the posts of people moaning and whining about how hard Valheim the "brutal exploration and survival game" is

"Help I don't know how to kill trolls even though I have full bronze gear what do I do!!!!111!!1"

[heady parcel]

Being a noob was awesome, I miss those days

[gray sand]

The daily "I am not having fun anymore" and "I quit" posts are also fun reads.

[tight wigeon]

Real shit

"I'm not having fun anymore" as soon as they touch the swamp

Somehow I think a lot of people enter valheim expecting some chill aesthetic builder game

[gray sand]

Swamp is metal AF and has some of the best builds tbh.

[tight wigeon]

Valheim suffers from TOO GOOD of a building system

[heady parcel]

Death rate accelerated there, true - but also my fascination with how well crafted the game is. But if dying repeatedly from making mistakes and misjudging enemies doesn't teach them anything, Valheim is not the game for them...

[near furnace]

everyone remebers their first 2 star draugr archer 😄

[tight wigeon]

True love

Building our first swamp base was like storming Normandy

[heady parcel]

Oh yes, that bastard. Finally killing him was a major FUCK YEAH!!! gaming experience. Better than most boss fights actually 😄

[gray sand]

Look up some of the builds that incorporate the Bonemass skull.

[upper crow]

?

[gray sand]

Which words need clarification?

[upper crow]

Now I get it. I haven’t played in a while

[heady parcel]

How do vineberries actually work? I came back to my "vineyard" and there was not a single berry grown on any of the vines, after me being away for at least 5-6 days. But standing there looking at them and cursing my bad luck 4 clusters appeared, one after the other.

[void turtle]

Should I get the bleeding or primal axes?

[gray sand]

Iolite/Lightning

[near furnace]

green wines don't give berries. only red one gives berries after days

there is a logout bug that can reset the growing timer on the red wine berries tho

[gray sand]

Bugs? In Valheim? NOOOOOOOO

[void turtle]

I have no iolite

[gray sand]

Then don't enchant your axes yet.

[merry pebble]

Oh my, somebody never went to mistlands... 😏 (or plains for that matter 😄 )

[heady parcel]

Oh? Logging out in the vicinity, or at certain times? I keep my vines in a separate place to the main base, so I am rarely in that area to make it "active" other than when I come to pick berries and plant another batch of onions...

[near furnace]

logging out in general

doesn't matter where you are

[heady parcel]

Ah right, nothing that can be avoided then. I'll just stay online 24/7 😄

Oooh my asksvin have mated, whee!

[idle storm]

Just go pick up vineberries before you log out. If you've been playing a while they should've grown some even if you get the reset bug.

[red heron]

rifgh now have finewood bow where can i find the next tier bow ?

[idle storm]

swamp

not learning to block/dodge will bite you in the ass later on though, so i'd recommend not overrelying on bows

[red heron]

need cut tree or ?

[idle storm]

iron

[heady parcel]

Bows is just one tool among many, not something to use all the time

[nocturne wolf]

I only use a bow if I feel like I have to

[gray sand]

I think I usually make it to Arbalest now without ever using a bow 😄

[heady parcel]

I use them mostly to pick off enemies one at a time where taking on the whole group would be insane. And for drakes of course.

[nocturne wolf]

I don’t like crossbows because all you can do to dodge while reloading is walk. No rolling, sprinting or even jumping

[idle storm]

A shot or two from sneak to thin out larger groups is pretty useful in swamp & mistlands

you can reload while jumping with the feather cape

[gray sand]

Spear throw 🤷‍♂️

Feather Cape is a crutch.

[idle storm]

a very useful crutch

[nocturne wolf]

Feather cape best cape

[gray sand]

No.

[idle storm]

yes

[heady parcel]

And getting up top of something mobs can't climb and shoot them from there might be semi-cheeze, but I regard it as a valid tactic..

[gray sand]

No.

[nocturne wolf]

Feather cape together with Lightfoot mead allows you to dodge almost everything at incredibly low stamina cost

[idle storm]

feather cape & fenris ❤️

[heady parcel]

I need to detox from the feather cape though, I have taken to some bad habits of jumping off tall things all the time, when I tried another cape it almost killed me more than once.

[gray sand]

No cape & Fenris 💛

[nocturne wolf]

You can reload while falling, but you can't jump to dodge anything after reloading has started or it resets.
Also the feather cape doesn't affect it.

[idle storm]

There's plenty of stuff in Ashlands to jump off though

same for mistlands

[nocturne wolf]

And all the time getting there could be spent using a bow, which will let you jump while charging a shot

[idle storm]

Sure, but xbow is more stam efficient

i use both depending on the situation

[heady parcel]

Aright, putting the asksvin with my chickens was a poor idea, they are constantly walking on the fires turning themselves on fire and breaking the fireplaces

[idle storm]

though for running around ashlands xbow is great because it oneshots twitchers and marksmen with sneak attacks

[gray sand]

xbox is great, yes.

[heady parcel]

So does Spinesnap tho

[gray sand]

Spinesnap in Ashlands cooks because spirit damage.

[idle storm]

the spirit damage is so tiny it barely makes a difference.

[heady parcel]

Got mine upgraded to lvl 4 now, I doubt I will even make the Ashlands bow, at least until much later

[nocturne wolf]

Silver sword can do this, no sneak needed

[heady parcel]

Spirit damage stacks though, so it builds up on the big ones where it matters

[idle storm]

yeah, but it can't take half of a valkyries health or be used to destroy spawners from a distance. And no need to carry both

[heady parcel]

Spawners I take out with the bow, I bring needle arrows to not waste frost on that

[nocturne wolf]

Stacking doesn't generate any extra damage. The total damage is the same as it would be if the spirit status was cleared before attacking again.

[idle storm]

carapace bolts are easy to farm in bulk so not an issue for xbows. To each their own though.

[heady parcel]

Yeah? Damage is damage, as long as the mob dies I'm happy. And the fact I can't move properly while reloading means I'll never use the crossbows again. Made it once and ditched it almost immediately.

[idle storm]

i got used to it during Mistlands since they're just so useful for killing gjall

and with Fenris you can dodge lots of stuff just by walking so it's not too terrible with a little practice

[gray sand]

Bows can't destroy things from a distance??
Omg... been doing that wrong. I will walk closer.

[nocturne wolf]

If you could block/parry while reloading that would be great because parrying an enemy then shooting its face would be fun, but crossbows somehow have 3 block armor while staves have 48, and staves are likely to be used together with staff of protection so the block armor is useless on them.

[near furnace]

?

[gray sand]

Read what I replied to.

[idle storm]

go up two posts from that

[near furnace]

yeah. whatever you're shooting at needs to be closer than end of render distance to take damage

[heady parcel]

Nah, the asksvin have to get a coop of their own, they're making a terrible mess in the chicken coop

[heady parcel]

So basically, if I can see it, I can kill it?

[strange osprey]

is there a lfg channel on this server? whats it called??

[nocturne wolf]

#1024264966712340510

[quasi latch]

#1024264966712340510

[strange osprey]

thank yo kindly

[merry pebble]

Bleh, mods

Also why post it here?

[heady parcel]

I strafed every spawner that I could see from the sea before I landed in Ashlands, with my bow. Made the whole landing process much smoother than it could have been, I suspect. Bow works perfectly well for this, although the crossbow might be better at it, I dislike the slow reload too much to really appreciate its heavy first hits.

[quasi latch]

#self-promotion

[cosmic igloo]

yes i am quin69

lmfao can u imagine

[near furnace]

no

you need to be slightly closer than render distance

[heady parcel]

I think I have noticed that on the spawner columns in Ashlands. If I shoot them at max distance I only waste arrows, but a little closer it will work. Can you share how much closer we need to be?

[near furnace]

don't know the number 😄

[heady parcel]

Fair enough, it's not like I can make out exact distances in-game either..

[hazy seal]

tbh

it may be a searing hot take that im gonna get a lot of shit thrown at me for but

valheim is made hard in a bad way sense of this word

aka making the game artificially harder than it needs to be because some people in this community has the same views on difficulty as terraria calamity mod community

[merry pebble]

Eh... No? The normal difficulty is just as devs decided, you can make it easier or harder if you want to....

[idle storm]

you're gonna have to be more specific on what exactly you mean? Enemies too tough? Too much material grind? Not enough handholding?
"hard in a bad way sense" tells us exactly nothing

[hazy seal]

i'd argue world modifiers are a bandage on a broken bone

[merry pebble]

If you think so 🙂

[hazy seal]

this is just a coverup on bad balancing

[idle storm]

plenty of people enjoy vanilla options

[hazy seal]

something badly balanced? just change world modifiers bro

this doesnt fix the issue

[merry pebble]

What bad balancing? You get what was advertised, brutal survival exploring game.

[idle storm]

What you consider badly balanced others consider just fine. That's what world modifiers are FOR, to tailor the experience to your preferences. There is no one-size-fits-all difficulty.

[heady parcel]

You're going to have to elaborate tbh. Valheim vanilla is pretty perfectly balanced in my opinion. Difficulty escalates as you progress through biomes in a logical manner, and the way progress is achieved is very rewarding (making your own gear, making better foods). I am a pretty mediocre player myself, and I have been able to progress up to and including Ashlands without ragequitting.

[hazy seal]

i feel like perfect essence of well designed biome is plains, it's rough, but not too rough

a little combat oriented but you can strategize

[merry pebble]

As almost any other biome...

[hazy seal]

i just feel like there's a lot of lategame creep

[tacit crystal]

You don't understand, it's badly hard. How do you not understand?

[idle storm]

no need to troll someone for expressing their opinion

i just don't get where the hate for difficulty options comes from. They've been a thing in video games since basically forever.

[tacit crystal]

World modifiers came when Hildir's Quest patch was added, in 2023 summer. So they haven't always been there.

[hazy seal]

not saying like good items shouldn't be locked away behind difficulty, but stone portal at the stage you get them aren't as useful as they'd be at like plains,

perhaps letting us build them early, but it allows only a very little of the ore to pass through and let us upgrade them just like we do with crafting stations, this gives sense of progression

[willow summit]

Theres no such thing as perfectly balanced when the game is experienced by so many different skill levels and expectations. The sliders allow you to customize to your preference just like any game with a difficulty selector

[heady parcel]

I have never thought of Valheim as "hard" to be honest. Some aspects can be hard. The Queen was a hard boss fight, establishing a first outpost in Ashlands was a hard fight. The bloody two-star seeker with two one-star sidekicks that protected the queen's lair in my world is the hardest fight I have had in the game, bosses included...

[hazy seal]

i feel like locking almost everything cool behind only the late stage of the game really sours the experience, because you don't get to toy with these for the most of the experience

[tacit crystal]

I think Stone portals are fit to be found in the end game.

[merry pebble]

The stone portal would not even have to be in game and i would really dont mind, makes the large storage of drakkar really useless on normal settings

[willow summit]

He didnt say they were. Hes saying difficulty selectors have been in video games pretty much as long as video games have existed

[azure yacht]

The sliders allow you to customize to your preference just like any game with a difficulty selector

You missed the point: People don't want solutions, they want reasons to cry and whine about

[idle storm]

not in Valheim but in general. Calling them "a coverup on bad balancing" makes zero sense to me.

[azure yacht]

Why do you think people STILL complain and whine about things that can be very perfectly solved with current features?

[willow summit]

But thats subjective. Many people find plenty outside of late game ‘cool’

[tacit crystal]

Pride?

[azure yacht]

More like self-entitlement

"The game must adapt TO ME"

[willow summit]

Solve it. No not like that. Thats not the solution i want

[hazy seal]

it's not that really, people use "just use world modifiers" as a counter to any suggestions about where balance failed and things could be improved

[merry pebble]

Oh yes, let me whine about stuff proudly 😄

[gray sand]

Stone Portal shouldn't exist.

[tacit crystal]

I mean, pride in sense that "I won't lower the difficulty because it would make me look weak".

[hazy seal]

like, balance changes won't ever happen if people don't complain, because "duh, world modifiers exist"

[willow summit]

But balance in this case is subjective to the user. The sliders allow you to customize your experience to your preference. Because its impossible to balance a game to EVERYONES preference

[heady parcel]

It is more a case of few agreeing that balancing has actually failed...

[gray sand]

The only wine is Barely 😏

[hazy seal]

true, but it's not like game is banned from having suggestions on how to improve it from now on

[merry pebble]

-# Which should technically be called beer...

[willow summit]

Of course, but in this case the individual, subjective balance issues already have a solution: the sliders

[gray sand]

"How to improve" is also subjective af.

[gray sand]

🤫 They didn't know any better.

[merry pebble]

Still really useful non the less 😄

[gray sand]

Is useful for Yagluth. Beyond that 🤷‍♂️ it is decorative.

[willow summit]

Is it not useful in the entire biome made of fire? 😂

[gray sand]

Kind of how Frost Mead is useful for like... an hour.

[idle storm]

You don't need to have the devs change the balance when you can do it yourself with a slider, that's the point. You're asking for an option that's already there because what? You're too lazy to move a slider? It takes away your gamer cred? I really don't see the issue here.

[hazy seal]

true, i just wish the game was more set on progression rather than difficulty

[gray sand]

Given the vast majority of the Ashlands damage is not fire... not really.

[merry pebble]

Also useful in mistlands and ashlands 🙂 especially if you have feather cape, but i dont really drink it after Yag that is true

[tacit crystal]

Tbh only few monsters deal fire damage there.

[gray sand]

I don't use Crutch Cape 😏

[nocturne wolf]

Why is it a crutch cape?

[willow summit]

Can you give a few examples? I guess im not understanding specifically what youd want changed

[merry pebble]

You are one of the minority in that i am afraid 😄

[gray sand]

See for reference: my views on Frostner. 😄

[heady parcel]

Also, world modifiers appeared pretty recently, and mostly to pander to the parts of the community asking for higher difficulty.

[merry pebble]

Oh i am with you on that one xD

[gray sand]

Really? I see them as pandering to the easy-mode people.

[willow summit]

I wish frostner was more available for the swamps where itd be most effective lol

[idle storm]

giving players options is pandering now?

[merry pebble]

Would make them too easy

[gray sand]

I wish Frostner didn't punt people.

[heady parcel]

They do both, which is fine to me. I run pure vanilla, I don't feel the need to change anything.

[tacit crystal]

It doesn't unless PvP.

[willow summit]

I run vanilla with 1.5x resource rate just to ease the grind a bit

[gray sand]

It does indeed punt. Which is why I hate it.

[tacit crystal]

I know.

[red heron]

any tip for feather farm ?

[azure yacht]

Then you wouldn't use any of the other weapons there except against abominations

[heady parcel]

I wonder where I put my Frostner, by the way. Haven't used it in months, must be on some armour stand somewhere..

[merry pebble]

Clear sealed tower or defeat 5th boss 🙂

[nocturne wolf]

Once you progress enough you can farm chickens. Before that you don't need many feathers, you should get enough if you kill birds when you see them and from chopping trees.

[idle storm]

early game hunt birds during rainstorms (they land). Later on breed chickens. Ashlands also gives a decent amount just from all the voltures you kill

[merry pebble]

• chests in black forest have feathers 🙂

[heady parcel]

Bow, wooden arrows. Pew!

(Or throw spear if you don't want to waste wood)

[gray sand]

🐔

[idle storm]

You also find a lot of arrows in the chests in ruins and dungeons

[tacit crystal]

This became my main method in my bow only challenge run. Running through 'em and getting lots of feathers and free arrows.

[merry pebble]

Yeah, i usually dont have to craft arrown untill mountains or plains 😄

[idle storm]

Pretty much. Until you get to the plains wooden arrows will do you just fine. Needing an extra shot or two per enemy just means your bow skill rises faster.

[merry pebble]

I mean i loot arrows 😉 not craft wooden ones

[heady parcel]

I have barely seen any voltures since I sailed down there, I see them flying around off the coast but they never come close enough to aggro.

[idle storm]

hit something with your pickaxe

[heady parcel]

I demolished an entire ruin on the beach and they didn't pay any attention whatsoever. Stupid birds.

[idle storm]

or just follow the coastline, you tend to find a decent amount of nests

[hazy seal]

the feeling of constantly improving your base is awesome, but you have very little things at the start, and you can only add extra after you beat a boss rather than having a lot available and improving from there

im saying that if we got certain buildables early available, but you have to upgrade them to have them at maximum potency would feel better than having everything good and cool locked behind very late biomes

it also helps with space managment since if you got more available early, you know you will need space for them

[idle storm]

• putrid holes too ime

[heady parcel]

Putrid holes is something I haven't run across yet.

Still haven't seen any fortresses either.

[hazy seal]

valheim is so set on progression and yet it so much isn't because SO FUCKING MUCH is not available for you for major part of the game

[willow summit]

See i actually love that as i move through the game i get access to better buildables and can gradually upgrade my base or build different kinds of bases. Its certainly a thought, but its still subjective to the user, not necessarily something that applies to game balance.

[idle storm]

Every biome gives you something new

[willow summit]

Plus if you had it all at the start, why progress/move into new biomes?

[heady parcel]

Hard disagree on all of this to be honest. Valheim works so well because you are not overwhelmed by everything you can do right from the very start. You unlock stuff as you go and imo it is perfectly built that way.

[willow summit]

Something like a build mode might solve that i suppose. Like where you dont actually play the game for progression, you just have access to everything and build exclusively

[hazy seal]

i'm not saying you should have all buildables available from the start, im saying they should be ealier, but have to be constantly upgraded

[idle storm]

And the only boss you NEED to kill is Moder. All the others you can do without

[heady parcel]

The way stuff unlocks as you find the ingredients is delightfully simple and efficient.

[hazy seal]

for example put the stone portal in plains, but in its first iteration you can only teleport a single ore/bar at a time

[idle storm]

that sounds tedious af

[azure yacht]

TL;DR: "I dislike being rewarded by progression"

[merry pebble]

Entirely pointless

[idle storm]

like a single fuling village gives 3-4 stacks of black iron

[azure yacht]

Too bad, other people DO like being rewarded by progression 🤷

[willow summit]

Ive shown the game to a few friends who are overwhelmed by the stuff you start with. Theres definitely something to be said for not overwhelming people too early

[hazy seal]

it's more of i see progression differently, i prefer constant progression than bursts of it

[idle storm]

that's 120 back and forth trips through your portal

[hazy seal]

that's the point, and to have ability to teleport as much you wanna only come from materials from ashlands

[willow summit]

I feel like progression IS pretty constant. You certainly get a key item from the boss but theres tons to discover and craft as you go through the biome itself

[idle storm]

the point is spending half an hour staring at the portal screen?

[hazy seal]

the progression discovery wise yes

[willow summit]

This just creates a huge amount of tedium that would drive people away, id think.

[hazy seal]

the progression base wise absolutely fucking not

[azure yacht]

So the point is to make a feature 1,000,000 times more unnecessarily annoying and tedious?

[heady parcel]

Indeed. I've been in Ashlands for three weeks and I still have lots of stuff left to find. Haven't unlocked the stone portal for example, and I haven't seen any fortresses.

Thought I would get that damn portal once I got flametal, but noooo

[willow summit]

I really feel like youre locked into this but the reasons are all emotional, not logistical? None of this really solves the problem, it just kind of shifts it somewhere else

[hazy seal]

put it ealier being more tedious, but it becomes less tedious over time

[azure yacht]

That would only result in people not using it at all

[willow summit]

This doesnt really improve the game, it just shifts the entire progression rate to your personal preference without considering the broader player base

[azure yacht]

At that point is when you end up asking yourself "why the hell did the make it this way? They shouldn't have done anything"

[hazy seal]

i guess

i may probably make a different balance mod once the game actually releases, no promises tho

[willow summit]

As it is theres, and i apologize for going back to this, a slider that controls the broader method with which portals can be used

[hazy seal]

i used portals as an example

[willow summit]

Forcing people to use portals in a way thats actually slower than a cart until the end game is an interesting choice

[idle storm]

Sailing would probably still be faster 😂

[willow summit]

I think theres enough logistical tedium WITH portals already that creating more for the sake of breadcrumbing progression isnt the best logical choice

[idle storm]

"you can portal your ore back to base 1 by 1. Or you can just sail over a full longships worth with Moder's power"

[hazy seal]

there are more buildables that'd have been cool to know about ealier like blast furnace (i always forget about their existence and when i remember, i realize i have no space for them in my main base, but that's just personal skill issue)

[willow summit]

Yeah this is a bit more prep/user error. I built a crazy base in meadows then discovered core wood and felt real dumb, but i loved that discovery all the more for that discovery

[heady parcel]

Gods, my wolfs constantly converge on the staircase and stay there, making it nearly impossible to get up or down. Just now had to jump out a window to get to the ground floor

[idle storm]

I usually just leave my older bases standing and move on to a new one when the old one gets too small. Getting the mats for duplicate crafting stations isn't that much of an issue imo.

[willow summit]

Plus im someone who tends to make multiple bases to make resource movement easier so it was cool to have all that practice building with limitations. It made having access to the better materials a lot more fun

[hazy seal]

i prefer stayin in a single biome, preferably small island since it makes any raids easy to manage

[willow summit]

Building without core wood teaches you how to master the support system. Having core wood expands what you can do, iron wood makes it possible to go crazy now that you understand how it works

I think if you just dropped half the building pieces on me at the start id never have built much bc id be overwhelmed, especially as a first time player

[hazy seal]

true

[willow summit]

Plus biome specific bases teach you how to manage raids as a building challenge rather than a purely combat one

Which i also enjoyed

[heady parcel]

I usually build one big base in Meadows where I stay for the entire playthrough, while setting up minor outposts where needed - to grow barley & flax, mistlands mushrooms, animal farms etc.

[hazy seal]

same

[willow summit]

I do satellite mining bases. Especially if i can find a spot that can double for more than one biome

[hazy seal]

sometimes i go black forest if haldor is on an island tho

[willow summit]

I found it easier to bring the processing to the ore rather than the ore to the processing

Plus i hate spending half my time shipping resources across half the seed to one centralized location

But i love that the game allows that kind of logistical expression for its players

[idle storm]

I've had a main base everywhere except Ashlands by now. Swamps are probably the easiest to raidproof since you can just build up in the indestructible trees, but there's options outside moats & terrain walls for all of them.

[hazy seal]

i'll definitely try to dabble with the idea of giving lategame buildable structures ealier, but they're shit and they can only be upgraded to full potency from the materials of the biome you'd normally get this buildable from

with a mod obviously

[willow summit]

Most of my bases are meadows or black forests near the biome
Im mining from, but plains has a special place in my heart since its usually my stone build

[idle storm]

Mistlands can get a little spicy with Gjall raids but if you use some black marble to give yourself cover it's not too bad. Greatest issue is that after beating Queen you only get bats and skellies -.-

[heady parcel]

Yeah. I love sailing in this game, so I build ports, docks and light houses and mark dangerous reefs with cairns or wisplights. Also built stone paved roads between all my outposts on the starting island. Dunno how much stone I've used but it's a lot...

[willow summit]

I create a ‘subway’ system of portals near the boss stones as a central hub. Boat materials for crafting benches out to the satellte base location, then mine and process there

[hazy seal]

wonder how much people would be down to try that mod out

its a different flavor of balancing really

[merry pebble]

Some in #mods-discussion might

[hazy seal]

oh also the one thing i hope valheim devs do when game releases is mod update, more precisely where you can submit a mod to steam workshop and just have to subscribe to it to have the mod already in game

[tacit crystal]

Hmm, I think I'm back on action and let's see how Yagluth fight goes on Hard mode.

[hazy seal]

that'd be dope

[idle storm]

now that i can get behind. Better mod support is always a good thing

[hazy seal]

it increases game longevity by a far far margin

no updates? mods always provide content and keep the game pretty much alive

devs have time to cook updates with this too

because community isn't bored

like seriously

so many devs underimine the power of modding and how making it easier makes the game practically immortal

[heady parcel]

My only gripe with mods is when people come in and think they need a bezillion mods first time they play the game. Like NO, play the game first and find out if you actually need any mods.. Then they install like 80 mods and their game is broken beyond redemption, and somehow it is the devs fault...

[merry pebble]

You know we have mod discusion channel right?

[hazy seal]

true, my bad

[merry pebble]

No worries 🙂

[gray sand]

This is what mods are for.

[gray sand]

😬

[tacit crystal]

Huh, Yag on hard was... Harder than expected lol. But now defeated.

[near furnace]

support your local mods 👀

[heady parcel]

Why do I suddenly and very randomly have a stack of tin ore in my inventory?!?

[near furnace]

did you catch a fish?

[heady parcel]

Not recently, no. Been afk waiting for my asksvin to mate

[merry pebble]

Magic 👀

[heady parcel]

Indeed

I first thought a chest might have been busted by the asksvin, because they keep turning themselves on fire and run around like crazy, but that can't be it because I haven't stored any ore here and I pretty much never stor ore anywhere - I smelt it immediately I get it back to base. Plus it is a full stack, and I haven't mined tin in ages.

Weird...

[merry pebble]

Playing with anyone that might have dropped it on you for fun?

[heady parcel]

No, it's my solo world

[merry pebble]

Huh, really weird

[heady parcel]

Hah, now I know what it is.

[merry pebble]

👀

[heady parcel]

Some weeks ago I did go mining for tin, and I tossed some stacks on the ground to climb - and they dropped through the ground. They surfaced after a while - and I thought I picked them all up then, but one must have floated up later and I scooped it up now as I ran past.

[merry pebble]

Aaaah, yeah makes sense 😄

[gleaming bridge]

Can cultists spawn in the special frost caves that the trader marks

Im like 10 mountains deep of searching for a cultist trophy and cand drop one

[merry pebble]

I do not think so

[tacit crystal]

Haven't encountered by myself either.

[heady parcel]

I think it's just bats, starred ulvs and the boss

[merry pebble]

Yep, also wiki supports this https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Howling_Caverns

-# the bats are also starred btw 😉

[gleaming bridge]

Ahhhhh

[heady parcel]

Starred ulvs hit like trucks btw. Glass cannons, they are really squishy - but don't let them hit you if you are running stam foods and fenris...

[tacit crystal]

Bats are starred too. But still hardly a challenge.

[gray sand]

2 starred bats 👀

[near furnace]

needs to be 20 stared bats 😄

[heady parcel]

That's a raid that would cause havoc with our farms..

[gray sand]

Disable raids 😏

[idle storm]

No, but they spawn in the raid unlocked by returning the chest to Hildir

[near furnace]

fight harder, build roofs and defences

[gray sand]

Imagine a vampire troll that when you kill his troll form he breaks into a couple dozen bats.

[heady parcel]

Hah, that would actually bee cool. And horrible..

Gods, all ashlands foods are veeery mats heavy, no?

[gray sand]

No?

[tacit crystal]

Except sala.. ehm, scorching medley, aka Ashlands salad.

[gray sand]

HHS or HSS?

[tacit crystal]

And mashed meat is fairly cheap also.

[humble sequoia]

Playing this game solo is so frustrating

[heady parcel]

Something I haven't even unlocked yet. But all recipies I have so far require a minimum of 2 vineberries plus something else, and since growing those damn berries is so erratic that will be an issue

[tacit crystal]

And simply cooked bonemaw meat.

[heady parcel]

My staple food so far, I love that they get close to the beach so you can aggro them!

[gray sand]

Vineberries are available by the dozens in the Ashlands itself.

[tacit crystal]

Leave a portal near the ruins with vines and pick them berries regularly, bam you have lots of berries.

Those ruins produce berries massively.

[heady parcel]

All the ruins I have found are out in the ocean, farming from them is downright obnoxious

I built ladders and platforms to farm it until I got seeds, but I'm not going back there unless I really have to

[tacit crystal]

Hmm, keep an eye for bigger ruins inland. Sometimes near shore.

[heady parcel]

Seen a few, out in the lava. Couldn't see anything but vines and pottery so haven't bothered trying to get out there

[tacit crystal]

Yeah, don't meddle with those, gonna end up badly lol.

[gray sand]

Dareyousay drownright obnoxious? 😏

[misty bloom]

Knee slapper

[rigid pilot]

Ist Jemand deutsch

[gray sand]

English server.

[plush umbra]

Just started exploring the swamp biome, first playthrough with friends

And god, that poison damage

Now I know why I can make poison resistance mead

I just want to find the dungeons with iron scraps

So I can build with stone, wish me luck

[gray sand]

🍀

[plush umbra]

I was trying to build an stealth/archer build, but I think I need the bronze armor defense

[pliant hatch]

If it helps:

Leeches can be killed with any bow and wooden arrows.
You can also kill them with a stagbreaker. Although that isn't really "stealthy".

But with both weapons you can kill those creatures from the shore, making you less vulnerable to poison damage.

[dry plank]

Hello 👋 everyone anyone trying to play valheim i just reach the swamp biome new at valheim working on trying to kill the swamp monster any tips

[gray sand]

"the swamp monster" == ?

[slim remnant]

the turnip seeds 😨

[formal thistle]

any tips on optimization? core i7 9th gen, 32gb ddr4 ram, rtx 3060 12gb. it runs well all on ultra, but it lags down to 35 - 40 fps sometimes.

[tiny tiger]

You running all settings on max?

I’d recommend lowering the lights and shadows settings first like active point lights if you have that set to 40+

[gray sand]

First swamp had no crypts but had 3 turnip flowers. Success!

[terse prism]

Hello! Is there an appropriate place to advertise server hosting and/or a discord for server owners to promote their servers, join events, etc?

[molten cave]

#1024264966712340510

[terse prism]

Thank you!

[plush umbra]

i am HEIMING

[nocturne wolf]

The caves are completely optional

Have you killed Bonemass? Use the item he dropped to find silver ore, hidden under the ground.

[grizzled pagoda]

I want deep north😭

[brisk vapor]

yo

[nocturne wolf]

You need three to spawn the boss. You will probably find more near the boss so you don’t need to take them earlier.

[pliant hatch]

Someone should write all that information down in a wiki......

Oh wait......

[plush umbra]

have they fixed the copper deposts having massive hitboxes in the recent updates??

i honestly have never successfully collapsed one in my enter 200 hrs of playing

[merry pebble]

They are not broken so there is nothing to fix 🙂 they have to be that big since the pieces that for copper deposit are big, the invisible hitboxes have to be big enough to fit the entire piece while only using right angles

[plush umbra]

but they are broken.. they could literally be fully floating and still would never collapse

[merry pebble]

That is not broken, it is just a drawback of the system currently in use

And if you just make a big enough hole and then go from bottom up you will eventually get it to colaps

[keen trench]

Nah nothing broken, just heavy industrial mining on a boulder scale (silver veins are just a thin rock-braid in comparison) i play solo or with max a couple friends, gave up popping copper and mine just the surface since there's so much deposits around, overall more time to yield efficient (also because you deal more damage from top with pickaxes)

[merry pebble]

I always mine all of it since i hate knowing i left something behind 😄

[keen trench]

Eheh i know the feeling, but i stopped doing that also for the sake of awesome black forest landscape (grasses up the area with cultivator once finished mining)

[tacit crystal]

Remember to equip the wishbone!

[tepid prawn]

They are collapseable it’s just really really tricky, if not collapsing the hole is too small. The actual model sometimes sticks out longer than the visual part of the model much more than with silver, so it’s a lot harder to collapse it

[willow summit]

Copper nodes are hit and miss for being able to be dug out enough for collapse

The only ones that really can consistently are the ones that are 3/4 exposed already off the side of a hill/cliff

[faint nebula]

sometimes its not worth the effort, just go to the next one

[willow summit]

Or just mine them normally

Silver is way easier to collapse

[shy furnace]

Is the next update planned to be 1.0?

[merry pebble]

The next biome update, yes, but we dont know if that will be the very next one or if there will be smaller updates in between 🙂

[shy furnace]

Ok thank you 🙂

[faint nebula]

there'll probably be a couple updates before its all rolled into 1.0 but who knows. they may throw-out 1.0 and then patch it with 1.1 or something

[merry pebble]

Any updates and patches after 1.0 will not be content ones but bug fixes and optimizations 🙂

[plush umbra]

anyone wanna play?

[gray cairn]

#1024264966712340510 🙂

[plush umbra]

every game ive ever played that ive joined a discord too the lfg channel always sucks and takes a million years, but great way for you to try suck up to get mod role by letting me know something i knew already i was only casually asking if anyone felt like playing lmao

[mild widget]

What is the possibility for valheim to implement redstone?

[midnight marten]

Quick Question, is the "Frostnar" a good Weapon?

[merry pebble]

My my, who pissed in your cereal today? 😄

[plush umbra]

the dog

[merry pebble]

I would say it is 😄

[mild widget]

Silver sword is better in my opinion, but frostnar will give crub levels which is useful for late game weapons

[midnight marten]

Okay thanks! 😄 Also for the Mountains??

[merry pebble]

Frostner has great elemental dmg which is great in the next 2 biomes 🙂

[faint nebula]

I have to agree. Mistwalker out-does frostnir quickly

[midnight marten]

Okay good too know thanks!

[merry pebble]

Frostner is good, but for boss and the "troll lvl" enemy iron mace would be better 🙂

[faint nebula]

as a sword guy, my silver sword tends to out-damage frostner from skills.

[midnight marten]

Good to know

[merry pebble]

Oh i prefer swords too 🙂 but frostner is just really good weapon (tho i dont use it much since hecking knockback)

[gleaming crest]

Is rocky still in the game?

[plush umbra]

Thank you!

[merry pebble]

Yep 😄

[gleaming crest]

Nice and I just look on hillsides for him?

[plush umbra]

I often take the bow strategy against any enemies, but the spectre scares me lol, gonna hunt In swamp only In the day

[merry pebble]

Doesent have to be on hillsides, anywhere in meadows or black forest if they are at least 1000m from spawn and between 5m and 20m in altitude 😄 (can also technically be found in swamps and mountains but the altitude requirement prevents that pretty well) also only in terrain unexplored before april 1st 🙂

[gleaming crest]

Unexplored

Ah ofc well there goes that dream 😦

[plush umbra]

do i have to pay to set up a server?

[gleaming crest]

Thanks though I will find him on a new seed

[merry pebble]

Did you explore all the black forest and meadows on your current seed?

[nocturne wolf]

It doesn't have to be a new world, just somewhere you hadn't been before the update

[gleaming crest]

Yeah I have explored almost everything

Would be painful to find those biomes far out

Thanks for the info though 🙂

[humble sequoia]

Is there any tool that lets you plant multiple crops at once?

[merry pebble]

Nope, but there is one that lets you harvest multiple at once 🙂

[humble sequoia]

yeah I got that one. That's why I asked haha

Well, I guess we are stuck to planting 1 crop at a time. Thanks

[merry pebble]

Its really not that bad 😄 kind of relaxing if you ask me

[humble sequoia]

Kinda wish it didn't use stamina

Gets tiresome if I have to plant 80 crops xD

[merry pebble]

Heh, last playthrough i had a field where to fully fill it i had to go through the entire durability and then some of a lvl3 cultivator xD

[nocturne wolf]

You usually don't need to plant that many, unless you're in multiplayer. And if you are, get your friends to help you

[humble sequoia]

Yeah I might be overdoing it (playing solo)

[merry pebble]

Me too i just really like bulk farming and crafting

[gray cairn]

Jesus christ, buddy.

[red heron]

somebody have the m2 modpack discord ?

[merry pebble]

Try #mods-discussion 🙂

[pliant hatch]

There's a mod for it, if I'm not mistaken.
But you'd better ask about that in https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1202934289898151966

[idle plume]

I've been running around the swamps for 3 in-game days now but I still can't find turnips..

[willow summit]

Only if you want a dedicated one

[hollow wing]

Those are a pain to find indeed.

[gray cairn]

Try another swamp, maybe that'll work 🤞

I found about 4 and only 2 had turnips.

[plush umbra]

Gonna be worth it after u get that jack-o-turnip 🤑

[near furnace]

zero

[summer trail]

Any eta on when deep north releases?

[vocal rivet]

Nope.

[merry pebble]

The only info we have is "it wont be soon" 🙂

[tacit crystal]

And we might get some new info from monthly dev blog. It will appear in https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1202150165449035816 usually during the end of the month.

[azure yacht]

Nah, I'm pretty sure they would tell us (this discord's members) specifically and not literally anyone else. We have privilege and priority over all other valheim-related communities.

That's why those questions always make a lot of logic and sense to ask

[gray cairn]

Absolute zero, or like 0.0001%?

Next april fools, maybe 🤞

[near furnace]

no.

0,00000000000000000000000000000000%

since we do our pranks ingame usually, it's not even going to be a joke

[gray cairn]

Good. 🤣

[gray cairn]

Yeah, good habit, honestly. Makes the jokes feel meant for the community of Valheim itself, rather than a potential jab or commentary on smth else.

[gray sand]

We already have redstone. You use it for the blood enchantment. 😏

[keen trench]

i found redstone in a chest, Haldor gave me 20 quid for that!

[sleek stream]

are they making the deep north thingy

[vocal rivet]

Which 'deep north thingy'?

[sleek stream]

like they made the ashlands have content i heard they were making the deep north have content too

[nocturne wolf]

Yes, we already have a few development blogs in #news

[vernal mortar]

Do you know some way to avoid spawning valkyries near your base in ashlands? It's realy anoying because they're so strong and spawns right after i defeat the first one.

[vocal rivet]

Spawn protection, same as any other biome.

[vocal rivet]

Of course.

[sleek stream]

yaayyyy

[vocal rivet]

Why wouldn't they?

[sleek stream]

idk do we know how far it is in development

[merry pebble]

The only info we have is that it wont be out soon 🙂

[sleek stream]

aw

[near furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/toy-story-excited-disney-pixar-gif-14438664

||but no. we don't say how much since we might cut something or add something. and then a "progress bar" would be completely wrong||

[sleek stream]

oh ok thank u

[hollow wing]

Hello, I want to make the staff of embers a single target weapon and available in the mountains.

What would you guys consider fair or balanced?

50 blunt
50 fire
Eitr cost: 35

Would this be balanced?

[merry pebble]

But it is a mistlands weapon...

[hollow wing]

I want early game magic

So I'm modding it recipe and stats.

[merry pebble]

Ah, then #mods-discussion might be able to help 😄

[sleek stream]

dam

[near furnace]

no. @azure yacht have broken totally and sarcasm level is over 9000

[sleek stream]

lmao ik im lowkey excited for deep north

still not at ashlands yet tho

[heady parcel]

Yeah. Ashlands looks like it will keep me occupied until Deep North arrives - and beyond. Only beat the old bug queen a few weeks ago. There's no need to rush things 😄

Will ashvine climb an earth wall?

[merry pebble]

Nope, only actual walls you build

[heady parcel]

Shame, but thanks

[dreamy shadow]

is there a way to know how much time we have spent on a game ? just for curiosity

[merry pebble]

Steam counts your hours, but if you mean in the world then only estimation via day number, which is quite inacurate

[dreamy shadow]

ooh didn't think about that, but yeah as long as there are nights we pass and others we don't..

[near furnace]

yes

[nocturne wolf]

The stats command can be used to see how much time a character has played on a world

[merry pebble]

😲

Didnt know that 😄

[dreamy shadow]

sorry what is the stats command ?

[near furnace]

stats tells you days, hours, minutes spent in a world

and all worlds that character ever visited

[tacit crystal]

Write /stats on chatbox by pressing Enter first, then press Enter again and use PgUP and PgDn to navigate the stats showing.

[dreamy shadow]

that simple x) thank you !

[tacit crystal]

That simple, yeh.

[hollow wing]

I haven't finished Ashlands yet, but what happens with the Dvergs, after you defeat the queen lore wise, are they saved somehow or still lost in the mistlamds, with just the queen being gone?

[nocturne wolf]

Defeating the queen doesn't really affect them

[tacit crystal]

They just mind their business as usual.

[hollow wing]

I know, but lore wise.

[nocturne wolf]

They had already locked her up so she wasn't bothering them anyway

[hollow wing]

Idk, maybe she was the cause for the mist and investations?

I would assume that with the queen dead, no more spawn can come from her and so the seekers would die out eventually.

So that's why I asked.

I would love to see the Dvergs hail the Norseman as a hero and haldor mentioning his graditude or smth like that, if it where the case.

[heady parcel]

Asksvin are quite the climbers, I had to pen them in well with cage roof, they just kept escaping to wreak havoc on the meadows countryside...

[nocturne wolf]

They were saying hi to their family

[heady parcel]

By eating them 😂

[near furnace]

why?

they are litterally going into valheim to loot the place
while you are there to kill stuff 😄

[gray sand]

Haldor? Grateful?? 😂

[hollow wing]

I don't understand the lore very well, but didn't some of the Dvergs get stuck in the Mistlands? Wouldn't they appreciate the help?

[gray cairn]

Didn't even know we could see stats, neat!

[plush umbra]

Finally explored the swamp this time, ngl I feel like I lost some years off my life span

Fought a Spectre and Abomination, felt my soul leaving my body

The life and poison meads saved me

[near furnace]

we did that a while ago

[gray cairn]

I'm grateful for it 😁

[wanton ridge]

Anyone wanna hop on a server with me?

[frigid arrow]

new?

im down by the way

[bleak geode]

im down

[wanton ridge]

Kinda. Been playing for 20hrs now. I'll say I'm familiar but yes still new

I get home from work in about an hour, so think y'all will be available then?

[frigid arrow]

yeah im down

[wanton ridge]

Bet. I'll pm you my steam

[frigid arrow]

alright

gonna go new character k

[wanton ridge]

Okay. I'll be inviting you to my world

[frigid arrow]

👍

[wanton ridge]

Booting up computer

[frigid arrow]

alright

[plush umbra]

Just completed my first sail, and I think my heart stopped since I saw an ocean serpent

[hollow wing]

Nice, more scary stuff on the way.

If you want a small hint:

Make sure to keep your eyes out for small suspicious looking ||Islands||.

There might be smth you want from there, so bring a pickaxe.

[plush umbra]

... Thank you, but I think I wont be able to sleep today, I found something In the snow that was Doctor Who like, when I shot an arrow, It toke 1 damage and dissapeared

I'm playing on my friends server, got bored and just started exploring, but I got traumatized after the swamp, oceans and a ghost from doctor who

And I just wanted some iron lmao

I only have 1, getting out of bronze age

Killed an Spectre and Abomination for this iron

But ngl, my new favorite game

[hollow wing]

And there's alot more for you to discover!

[plush umbra]

I'm excited but I don't know how much my heart can handle lol

I just searched basic things on the wiki, didnt thing there was this much to the game

[hollow wing]

But your nightmare isn't Immortal, just follow my hint and face it again.

[plush umbra]

Will do, my eyes are open

[hollow wing]

Trust me, it will be worth it.

[plush umbra]

Thank you! If I get scared by these islands I will come back to see you!

And as long as the enemy has an hp bar I can do It

[hollow wing]

Ofcourse, feel free to ping me any time.

[plush umbra]

I'm only afraid by the ships hp

[hollow wing]

Then get the ship, which is iron tier.

[plush umbra]

Will do, as soon as I find a swamp with crypts!

Got 10 poison resistance mead and the same for life mead

[hollow wing]

Good choice

[plush umbra]

It saved me from the abomination and then It dropped me the iron scrap

I'm the one who Is mostly online In the server, so I don't have backup In these moments

[hollow wing]

Also, there is a chest piece you can make from the root Abominations drop, which has Pierce resistance.

You'll need this for the biome after the Mountains.

[plush umbra]

When I reach there I will already have 30 meads In my Inventory and the big iron shield 🙏 Not playing around after the ocean stuff

[hollow wing]

If you see a place which looks like heaven and golden fields, while Sailing.

Don't go near without this item.

[plush umbra]

I thought It was just a goofy cool game until today

Thank you! Going to sleep soon here, will explore more tomorrow, will remember your hints! Good night

[hollow wing]

Same here, see you around

[plush umbra]

Just gonna put a lot of meads to make while Im afk

[hollow wing]

Do you have raids on?

[plush umbra]

I do, we just won the second boss fight yesterday

I made the wood fences all around base to protect It

[hollow wing]

Then one can start when you're afk.

[plush umbra]

It often does, the owner gets afk there

[hollow wing]

It won't do, especially when you defeated the swamp boss.

[plush umbra]

Yeah ... I saw the trolls, as soon as I get another Iron I will make the stone thing

[hollow wing]

This ruins the game for me, but you can also dig a mote, which they can't break, nor get out off.

[plush umbra]

I could, but I want the fun too

If they break In I can use It as an excuse to rebuild the base and make it pretty lol-

[hollow wing]

Good excuse

[plush umbra]

But yeah, I'm not that worried with the base, Its kinda steady and simple, I can quickly repair things and build the fences again. Gonna watch some JoJo and sleep, see ya cool person!

[hollow wing]

Cya

[lofty fern]

is there a good servers any one can recommend with a good list of mods? figured theres probaly one out there instead of setting it up myself?

[gray sand]

#1024264966712340510 and people should have their info posted in their thread.

[thorny panther]

The decision to invalidate the metal from pre-patch Ashlands is so shitty. Like it's bad enough that you can't play in a server that already explored the biome but on top of that the stuff you collected just stays worthless. Obnoxiously punishing for people who don't wanna start over from the beginning. Literal slap in the face to players who decided to keep exploring while waiting for more content.

[normal frigate]

im coming back to the game after awhile, did they disable pufferfish damage to mobs for farming?

[tepid prawn]

Strange opinion, but I think the reasons is the devs wanted people to feel a sense of pride for achieving the aquisition of flametal, not just mine it in utter safety

and I m saying that as someone who has about 500 ancient metal across my old worlds

[gray sand]

You went to a biome that didn't exist yet and mined resources that had no purpose and you're surprised that being somewhere with no purpose and collecting things with no purpose had.... no purpose?

That's a bold take...

[thorny panther]

More disappointed than surprised. You'd think they'd do something to acknowledge that it existed (besides changing the name). Some random chair or something idk.

[rain flare]

The game is in beta
There are going to be some things that don’t work or are patched out until the game is actually finished 👍

[thorny panther]

They gave a cloak to the super early players. Is it too much to ask for a random useless build for the people who went exploring (the purpose of the game) during the first few years of the game?

[rain flare]

I get it, it would have been nice to have some use for the old flametal, but it’s not something that everyone can get their hands on once the game gets to 1.0

[gray sand]

No, no I would never even consider the possibility of thinking that. lol

[rain flare]

Maybe not - ask in suggestions
They may change their mind about it

[tiny tiger]

It wouldn’t be obtainable for players who generate da world post Ashland’s tho

It shouldn’t have a use

[rain flare]

Unless you forcefully revert your game to pre-Ashlands release

Which will break stuff sooo…

[thorny panther]

That's why it'd be a useless build. Just something to do with the item. Not a weapon or anything progression related.

[tiny tiger]

The only reason it was kept in was probably to not break old worlds where players decided to go into an unfinished placeholder biome

[tiny tiger]

Yes but that wouldn’t be fair for players generating world post Ashland’s who may also want this item

[thorny panther]

Devcommands exist

[tiny tiger]

Which make your character count as a cheater and would probably disable achievements in 1.0

[thorny panther]

Tell that to players who want a Cape of Odin lol

[warm sandal]

devcommands are not an option for all people...there are folks that do consider it cheating and do not want to do it... so that is NOT a good option

[tiny tiger]

you want them to pour resources into satisfying a very niche problem that only exists because you went somewhere where you weren’t supposed to

[thorny panther]

"Pour resources" is a little dramatic

[rain flare]

Hey, if you want to leave a note asking for changes, you should post one in suggestions or upvote one that already exists

Your conversation is gonna get lost in here at some point
The dev’s will at least look through the suggestions board

[thorny panther]

I did both already

I'd also present the argument that it was reasonable for players to think old Flametal was worth collecting. For "future content" that was available before the Mistlands update we only had the fifth boss drop and Flametal ore.
-End of Plains? Placeholder item.
-Old Mistlands? Just aesthetics, no items.
-Old Ashlands? Surtlings and Flametal.
-Old Deep North? Just aesthetics.
From the player perspective, it's not unreasonable to think "They gave us this item with a name. I wonder what use it'll have in the future."
I doubt anyone who visited old Ashlands thought "This is a cool metal I bet it'll be worthless after the update."

[gray sand]

I find it incredibly unreasonable, as a player.

[vocal rivet]

You're right. They probably thought, I'm an unfinished biome I shouldn't take anything for granted.

[thorny panther]

If they were planning to make it worthless then the old Ashlands rocks should've just dropped Stone or Coal or something

[gray sand]

No?

[vocal rivet]

There were no plans. It was undeveloped.

[gray sand]

If they dropped stone, you'd be taking it for granite. 😏

[tepid prawn]

And to be honest no one including the devs probably spent time thinking on what to do with old ashlands placeholder stuff, the focus was always on the future not on what to do with things that got put there during Captain Placeholder times!

[modest sierra]

does anyone know the multiplayer difficulty scaling numbers?

[gray sand]

Wiki has them.

[near furnace]

valheim wiki site has all info

[modest sierra]

alr thanks guys

[azure yacht]

Yes, a lot to ask.

[azure yacht]

The one that you can't wear?

[azure yacht]

And promptly ignore it because I'm certain that is something that just won't change.

[verbal geyser]

guys is build a base in meadows (mainland that u spawn) ok?

im about to start build a base but im not sure that should i build something good that im gonna live all game

or will I need to change my base no matter what happens in the endgame?

im pre-bonemass

[nocturne wolf]

You never need to change your base but players often move for the fifth biome

[verbal geyser]

ashland?

[nocturne wolf]

Plains

[verbal geyser]

why do people change their place for that biom?

[nocturne wolf]

Their meadows base would be too far from the biomes they need, and more crops can be planted in plains.

But meadows is always the best biome because you can have a neck pond by your base ❤️

[verbal geyser]

i hate those bastard :3

back in the time they were attacked me 5 people

and my base rn is close to bf

so i dont see them that much

[near furnace]

some plants can only grow in plains

hence why many people make either a 2nd base there, or move entirely

[rain flare]

Like peeps have said, you can move to gain access to more crops and different types of food, but honestly, it is entirely optional

I moved my base onto a mountain cause I lived the visuals, but now I can’t grow any food so I have to go walk around whenever I get hungry 😅

Let yourself be flexible - if you like a biome, build a base in it

You won’t regret making nice bases in this game 🥰

I have a house in the meadows, mountains, ||mistlands|| and ||Ashlands||, purely because I like those biomes and wanted to live there

I made a pseudo plains biome base, but it is more of a spot to show up, plant crops, and run away again - it’s not like I live there in any real sense 😂

I need to change that actually 🤔

[near widget]

Anyone else relate to the pain and shame of dying in a world you intended to be a perma death run but then decide to just keep playing anyways?

[dreamy shadow]

Well, I keep dying in Elden Ring but still love playing at it so... I must be a little masochist 😅😭😂

[rain flare]

Eh - it happens 😂

Just keep playing for the fun of it

I got to the point where I was almost ready to fight moder before I got stoked
Can’t remember what did me in 😅

[magic pasture]

Well that was scary.
My very first Putred hole (only one core, sads) popped a 2-star morgen.
It is now boarded up with a sign saying NONONO at the entrance. I may never go back in there.

[void turtle]

I hope when the deep north releases I can make my character any colour

[faint nebula]

dunno. Viking Warriors and Shieldmaidens tended to be nordic.

[void turtle]

I just want to make him green

[mellow ore]

guys whats the hardest boss in the game?

[void turtle]

For me it was yagluth

[nocturne wolf]

The queen is the only boss who has killed me but it was my first time using magic so I did everything wrong

[rain flare]

Depends on how you play
I’d say it was fader, but like blobi said, it’s normally adjusting to playstyle that gives you a difficulty spike

My friends and I spent a good few hours fighting moder and Yagluth due to difficulties with other mobs and running out of barley wine

The queen was the easiest to work with
Killed her oneshot

Fader was also easy cause I abused magic

Bonemass I cheesed with frost arrows 😂

[brazen wharf]

so i wanna ask, are "power combos" a known thing by the devs and allowed to exist

[nocturne wolf]

They are a bug

[brazen wharf]

i mean i know that

but is it a bug cool enough to be left in

[nocturne wolf]

I don't think the developers plan on removing them. They have been known for a long time by now

[brazen wharf]

yeah, i hope that if they ever do remove them they at least add official seperate combo routes for weapons...

[void turtle]

Just run away when she gets close

[nocturne wolf]

I know how to deal with her now, this was a long time ago

[void turtle]

Even my first time I just ran

[nocturne wolf]

I was focusing too much on spawning and shielding my skeletons so I didn't have enough eitr to protect myself

[nocturne wolf]

My first time I fought her with melee weapons so I was generally running towards her

[void turtle]

My first time I went in with full wizard because I knew she was resistant to physical

[nocturne wolf]

She only resists pierce

Mistwalker and Krom are great melee options

[void turtle]

Despite her taking me over an hour throwing fire at her was fun as fuck

The best valheim boss

[nocturne wolf]

I prefer Fader

[rain flare]

I saw the vid 😂🤭

[rain flare]

I can’t pick a favourite

Valheim is just too good

[rain flare]

KROM!!! 🗡

[nocturne wolf]

Hopefully the deep north boss is worthy of being a favourite

I really want multiple bosses to fight together

[rain flare]

I died using krom 😭
My greatest shame…

Was doing SO well fighting the queen (had demolisher for baby bugs) and had her down to like 1-2 hits of hp.

Then I got greedy and she onetapped me 😂😭

[void turtle]

Lmao it scared the shit out of me

[void turtle]

Not fought him yet

[rain flare]

Endgame:

final boss ||winter child|| spawns all bosses with minions to make life miserable

[rain flare]

One piece of good advice…

Don’t fight him near lava 😅
You run out of space real quick

[void turtle]

It’d be cool if the final boss was someone our size

Like malenia from Elden ring being the hardest boss who’s the same size as us

[nocturne wolf]

||What if the winter child has already killed the deep north forsaken but is keeping the trophy so you can't leave to Valhalla without killing him, and halfway through the fight he uses the forsaken power for a second phase?||

[void turtle]

Could just be Loki

[nocturne wolf]

From Smiffe's profile:

Is maybe Loki, or Loki is Smiffe

This would mean we're fighting Smiffe as the final boss?

[void turtle]

Who’s smiffe?

[mellow ore]

whats the point of the game everything is cheesable

[nocturne wolf]

The most active developer in this server

[void turtle]

The only boss I cheesed was moder

[mellow ore]

i mean it also depends what difficulty your playing right?

[nocturne wolf]

But that's not fun

[mellow ore]

excactly

what do you do in the game after you beat all bosses and minibosses?

[nocturne wolf]

When 1.0 releases the game will have an ending after all main bosses are defeated and their trophies are brought to the sacrificial stones

[mellow ore]

well thats sad

[void turtle]

The only reason I cheesed moder was because I hate using a bow

[nocturne wolf]

Finally having a way to beat valheim is sad?

[mellow ore]

no but like it didint get alot of updates in the past 5 years yk

[nocturne wolf]

It's a small team working on a big game, development takes time

[mellow ore]

or 4 idk but they should definitly continue on the game

[merry pebble]

We did get plenty of updates

[mellow ore]

no you didint lol

[nocturne wolf]

How many is 'plenty' to you?

[merry pebble]

Probably one every month or something... Since it is such a big studio...

[mellow ore]

i mean if you count patch notes as ''updates'' sure

[vocal rivet]

Yes, yes we did.

[vocal rivet]

Patches are updates, yes.

[dreamy shadow]

well, since the game was realeased in 2021, we had pretty much everything this past 4 years...

[mellow ore]

okay but talking about update updates not patch notes i dont count that

[nocturne wolf]

Every update has patch notes

[mellow ore]

2 new bosses and mini bosses and a new biome

[merry pebble]

There you have your problem 😄

[dreamy shadow]

no, everything, 4 years ago the game didn't exist

[nocturne wolf]

Two new biomes, mistlands and ashlands didn't exist in early access release

[vocal rivet]

Two new biomes, two new NPCs, reworked combat, reworked food system, quests...

[merry pebble]

Well, it did, but for around 3 months 😄

[mellow ore]

yall acting like thats alot for 4 years i understand its a small team i respect it but if you compare it to other games its nothing

[dreamy shadow]

I think you don't get how much work it represents already.

[vocal rivet]

It IS a lot.

[dreamy shadow]

yep x)

[mellow ore]

yeah for valheim its alot your right

[nocturne wolf]

Stop comparing it to other games then, unless you're comparing it to other games made by a similar studio size.

[dreamy shadow]

Considering it's one of the most interesting game for its gameplay. Now studios are to much focused on graphics and gameplay doesn't evolve anymore

Iron Gate is doing a really, REALLY great job

Every time I make a new world it is addictive again

[mellow ore]

ik they are the game is great

[dreamy shadow]

As a 3D animation and game student, we learn some code, VFx etc, and we had trouble just to make teleportation portals work correctly. Just that simple thing can induce so many bug

I can only admire what a small team like Iron Gate succeeded to do in only 4 years

[void turtle]

Quality over quantity

[mellow ore]

true

[tacit crystal]

Even after 2700+ hours of playtime that attack gives shivers.

[mellow ore]

but the thing is the quality as in bosses are all cheesable

[void turtle]

What do you even do for 2700 hours in valheim?

[vocal rivet]

What does that have to do with quality?

[nocturne wolf]

People will always find a way to cheese things

[vocal rivet]

Challenge runs, play new updates, build, play with others..

[tacit crystal]

Just.. Play? Been playing the game since 2021 lol.

I enjoy some challenges like different deathless runs.

[mellow ore]

wdym litertally everything if the quality of the bosses are good there shouldnt be any problems

[void turtle]

To be fair I have spent over 1000 hours on terraria

[vocal rivet]

The bosses ARE good. Them being technically cheesable doesn't change that.

[tacit crystal]

I've seen some people here with over 8000 hours in Valheim lol.

[keen trench]

uhm, i'm around 1400 and i feel i'm not even close to a quarter of what i would like to do, build, experiment as combat styles and/or difficulty settings, so maybe at 2700 i'll feel kinda halfway thru, all this with game not even finished yet

[dreamy shadow]

I for now have 666 hours on Valheim... 😐 😂

no joke, I can take a screenshot x)

[keen trench]

that's very metal 🤟

[dreamy shadow]

I was not prepared for that XD

29 hours more and it will be my most played game ^^

according to Steam

[mellow ore]

does change the quality definitly im not complaining tho its always uncheesable tho

[vocal rivet]

It definitely sounds like a complaint.

[tacit crystal]

Around 2250 hours to reach my most played game lol.

[dreamy shadow]

ouch

XD

[tacit crystal]

And I have not played that game in years lol. But played it a lot when I was younger.

[dreamy shadow]

there are just so much things to do, so much work to finish and so much games to play x))

[dreamy shadow]

that's crazy

[merry pebble]

For me some 1950 hours to get to my most played 😄

[void turtle]

I find that impossible to comprehend

I think because I’ve only been playing valheim for like a year

[vocal rivet]

I think that's even more than Smiffe.

[rain flare]

Odin help us 😅

[tacit crystal]

#screenshots message This was the highest I found with quick search.

[void turtle]

That’s terrifying

[rain flare]

Welcome to the endless abyss of Valheim 😅

You will never leave…
Because you don’t want too 😅

[dreamy shadow]

it's crazy how addictive this game is ^^'

last time I played was July, I made a new world last week and it already took the place of every other games x)) (currently The Witcher 3 and Elden Ring)

[tacit crystal]

No, we never leave because the game has no ending yet. We just waiting for IG to add DN and release us all to Valhalla.

[rain flare]

Some games are just that good 🥰

[rain flare]

Who says I’m gonna even if DN is finished?

If valhalla doesn’t let me build my own house and drink mead I ain’t interested 😂

[nocturne wolf]

does valhalla have necks?

[rain flare]

Blobi asking the important questions in life

[tacit crystal]

To quote ⚖️ : "What would Rocky do?"

[light moat]

Miss that guy ⚖️

[azure yacht]

True, you can cheese many bosses by just playing mage in elden ring. Literal garbage quality that game...

and from an actual playable and viable class

Flawless logic

[gray cairn]

I wonder how many of those hours are AFK

[tacit crystal]

Our skill expressionist is not in our precense sadly.

Although, he mentioned about his finals for this Spring. Wondering if he left temporarily for that reason.

[light moat]

Hopefully he returns afterwards 🤔

Me and buddy have put our Valheim on hold until after his finals, but I’m itching to play more!

[vocal rivet]

You would just lurk in those situations. I gather it's a permanent situation

[tacit crystal]

Which situation?

[vocal rivet]

Scales' departure.

[tacit crystal]

Ah. Maybe it didn't catch my eye then.

Is it ok to DM you @vocal rivet?

[vocal rivet]

I would imagine so.

[thorny panther]

They're wearable by a special dlc link from an email that was only sent to the earliest players. Anyone can devcommand them in but wearing them is exclusive to the most veteran of players.

[vocal rivet]

Pretty sure Rianu is aware.

[thorny panther]

I'd think most people who've heard of it would know that but their comment made it seem like they didn't

[vocal rivet]

Not really, given the context.

[thorny panther]

I just think it'd be nice of them to acknowledge the early players with a glowy chair that gives no comfort or something dumb like that. Can't even display the ingots on any stand type object so they literally just take up chest space until you turn them into Coal.

[gray sand]

Not this again...

[vocal rivet]

Early players got the Odin cape. That's it.

And yes, I have zero idea why Nuge is restarting the conversation.

[thorny panther]

Sorry I just saw that other response. Can leave it alone at this point.

The initial comment was after launching my old server and finding that my chest of future cool stuff was now a chest of trash and just being frustrated over it

[vocal rivet]

I don't see why anyone should be rewarded for foolishly hoarding a resource that we had no idea would remain or not.

[thorny panther]

As a final point then, am I forgetting something else or is this the only thing that had no purpose at launch and also never gained a purpose?
Only asking out of curiosity cause I can't think of anything else.

[vocal rivet]

It was the only really tangible item in unfinished biomes. Mistlands and Deep North were completely empty.

[tacit crystal]

I remember some people complaining on Reddit (not surprisingly) that their efforts were vanished because of the change. Serves them right.

[vocal rivet]

Hm, can't find my old message (died in the hack) where I said 'it'd be funny if it ends up not being usuable in the finished biome'.

[last dirge]

Hola

[civic wraith]

Deep north coming in 2025 or 2026 😂

[pliant hatch]

It's coming. That's all we know.

Might as well be 2050.

[thorny panther]

Having seen my Ashlands swamp house crumbling and trees sinking into the Ocean, I now have to mentally prepare to watch my Deep North sttone fortress crumble

[void turtle]

Is it just me or is valheim’s combat similar to Elden ring

[nocturne wolf]

There are similarities but overall they feel very different

[void turtle]

I think they feel similar

[light moat]

In what ways are they similar? 🤔

[merry pebble]

You can roll 😄

[void turtle]

The buttons

[vocal rivet]

They're both on keyboard?

[void turtle]

I’m on Xbox, so light attack is rb, heavy attack is rt, and block is lb, it’s the same for Elden ring

[vocal rivet]

Oh, so that's the similarity. They're both better on PC.

[void turtle]

I like Xbox tho

[gleaming bridge]

can there be 2 frost caves in one mountain

[void turtle]

Yes

[light moat]

Yep! Can be multiple really, especially in large mountain biomes.

[gleaming bridge]

are they also dependant on range from spawn or can be any mtn?

[plush umbra]

After sailing, I finnaly found a island with a big swamp and a crypt 🙏 Iron age Is here

The 53 hours on Valheim In the last 8 days paid back

And we found Haldor too

[keen bronze]

does anyone have a world where i could repair my carapace armor? i got back on the game and all of my worlds were gone. any help would be much appreciated

[pliant hatch]

You could ask around in https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1024264966712340510
Someone in there might give you a hand.

However, if your worlds are gone and you don't have the backup anymore, you may as well start over on a new world until you get to Mistlands and repair the items yourself.

It might take a tad longer, but eventually you'll get a much better feel for the game.

[brittle flower]

Guess who just found out chickens dont have a pen size limit like the other tameable creatures

Came home with about 100 chickens walking around my kitchen and my hearth full of feathers and meat

[plush umbra]

well, lots of food!

[pliant hatch]

And arrows. 😄

[keen bronze]

Thank you!

[vocal rivet]

10 in 10m.

[plush umbra]

The thing keeping me alive In this game Is the secret Joestar technique

[gleaming bridge]

i fucked up with my farm because i made it away from my house, i should buy new eggs make a farm home

[gray sand]

Wait until you learn the Joemama technique 😏

[brittle flower]

Turn on creative mode and make one

[keen bronze]

Did not think of that! Thank you!!

[brittle flower]

Yw

[gritty urchin]

sup, when is the update, guys?

[brittle flower]

Not yesterday or today for sure

[pliant hatch]

When it's ready.

You'll know if you keep an eye on https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1202150165449035816

[gray sand]

One day Smiffe will make a bot that auto-deletes these 😄

[pliant hatch]

That's after he got bored with the bot posting his "when"-Gif, I think.

[merry pebble]

For the ashlands there was a command that showed this message:
"Ashlands will be released in first half 2024
There will be public test beta"
😄
Maybe something similar would be preferable to a bot deleting stuff.

[pliant hatch]

IF we get a PTB. It's very unlikely we do have that one, although Smiffe hasn't given us a reply about whether or not we're having one yet.

[vocal rivet]

Huh?

[merry pebble]

We have carts that dont require rails 😉

[vocal rivet]

Does this look like Minecraft?

[merry pebble]

🤷‍♂️

[plush umbra]

yea

[merry pebble]

Oh i am not saying there will be 😄 its literally copy pasted message from when dyno was just disabled and i kinda took over his role of telling people that

[pliant hatch]

I think it looks more like Jumanji, considering we got The in this game.....

[vocal rivet]

Other games might suit you better.

[merry pebble]

Some with carts you find cooler 😄

[pliant hatch]

WEll, if you want trams, look at Transport Fever 2.
It also has rails in it....
Oh and horse carts too.

[quasi latch]

I'll take a Valheim cart over a hollow cube with one face missing any day

[vocal rivet]

I don't know, something not based in a fictional fantasy realm with undead Vikings perhaps.

[plush umbra]

Roblox

[merry pebble]

#mods-discussion

[vocal rivet]

If you're asking about mods before even trying the game its probably wrong for you.

[quasi latch]

Some things take a good bit of exploring

[ember panther]

Sail on a clear day, you'll see em

[brazen wharf]

additionally, you can get Hildir's quest and look for howling cavern marks

it's not guarenteed to be a large mountain but you're guarenteed a dungeon (even if it's a dangerous one)

[plush umbra]

.... the what?

Got the 15 medium health and 15 poison resistance meads to explore the Crypts with my friends

[rain flare]

Good luck!

[plush umbra]

Gonna switch my troll armor for bronze, not playing around lol

Thank you!

[merry pebble]

That gives you 2,5 hours of exploring with poison resistance 😄

[plush umbra]

Well, I will probably share It with another three people, but I can always make more! I have some beehives at our base

And now that I told them we loose levels and exp from dying ... I think they won't play around too

[pliant hatch]

If you're going to explore the sunken crypts, bring a bow and some flint arrows with you.
If you're in a group, let someone bring Stagbreaker too as well.

Mine down the muddy scrap piles, but not all of them. That way not a single monster can get to you and you can kill them with the bow and / or Stagbreaker.

[merry pebble]

Skill levels are really not that important 🙂 they are nice to have but thats about it

[rain flare]

Don't listen to the nay sayers!
Skills are not important, but they make your life MUCH easier

[plush umbra]

Thank you! I always have some flints arrow, and I will bringk the Stagbreaker, ty ty!

[rain flare]

high run / jump skill?
Easy exploration

[plush umbra]

I love skills, It reduces stamina usage and increase damage

[rain flare]

High block/weapon skill?
👆

[plush umbra]

Sometimes I just grab some of the little tree guys to Improve the shield one

[rain flare]

It really makes a difference later

Don't even get me started on just how good high skill levels are when you start using ||magic||

[plush umbra]

It already matters to me now! I usually prefer skills and etc instead of relying on just armor! It makes me feel more safe and that I'm not who I am cause of the items

Omg, can't wait to get magic, first Im gonna get some irons to build stone walls and a pickaxe to get some loots from the mountains

[gray sand]

The Joemama joke didn't land... sorry. 😭

[plush umbra]

And I'm gonna hunt abominations too

[plush umbra]

LMAO, I was waiting for It, curiosity always win over me

I don't know why ... but running Is always around 10 levels higher than any other skill I have ...

[merry pebble]

That is because you usually run pretty much anywhere 😄

[gray sand]

Me... with swim at 93..m

[plush umbra]

Secret Joestar Technique1

[merry pebble]

Exactly

[plush umbra]

... I was thinking about leveling It up ... but 93 ....

Well, everyone has their preferred stats!

[gray sand]

I needed something to do while smelting 1700 iron.

[plush umbra]

Mine Is whatever keeps me alive longer

[plush umbra]

Pfffttt, I just got my first iron

I always love when the game pop ups 100 new crafts

[gray sand]

Load smelters. Swim. Collect iron.
Repeat until done.

[plush umbra]

After running and fighting for my life against Specret, Daughrs and a Abomination

[gray sand]

In hind sight I could have made more than 3 smelters...

[plush umbra]

My friends build a lot of them, we don't even have enough coal pffft

[cobalt canyon]

errr....bows?

[gray sand]

I now have 5 because it's easier to work in multiples of 100 coal.

[plush umbra]

We have like, 6 or 7 I think

[merry pebble]

VERY nice to have 😄 necessary? nope

[gray sand]

6 I can get because that is 2 ore stacks.
7 is just the work of psychopath.

[cobalt canyon]

I mean it's not "necessary" to have weapons either - as long as they can outdamage enemy health regen

[plush umbra]

... My group and me aren't the most sane

[cobalt canyon]

or armor, or food - what's the line of "necessary"?

[plush umbra]

One of my bros was fighting against a Troll with his bare hands ... while dodging all the attacks rolling ...

[gray sand]

3's and 5's are the only multiples smelters should be done in 😭

Though I do wish the coal input was on the back...

[cobalt canyon]

what the difference between 0 and 100 bows skill? 6x damage or something?

DPS*

[gray sand]

Damage or DPS?

Damage is only 30% but the attack speed gain is the real bonus.

[merry pebble]

Dont get me wrong, i am in no way against having high skills, but too often players dwell too much on that and even sometimes quit the game because their skill levels drop 🙂

[gray sand]

.#JusticeForArbalests
.#NerfBows

[plush umbra]

Yeahh, I always need to aim my camera correctly to burn the material ... And I think I will make more two furnaces to get 9 ... hehe

[gray sand]

9 is also good because that's 3 stacks of material to burn.

[plush umbra]

It really bothers me losing the levels, but I can always just get It back, It helps me cause I started playing 8 days ago and Im still learning a lot of things

[gray sand]

If the coal input was in the back you could line them up more nicely 😭

[merry pebble]

Keep at it

[plush umbra]

My friend didnt understand when I got 53 hours against his 15 in 8 days ...

[gray sand]

Remember that the game is balanced around you having zero in all skills.
They are just free stats. So losing them shouldn't bother you 🫂

[plush umbra]

Thank you, will remember that!

[gray sand]

And you can always smelt more iron when you need to get your swim back 😏

[plush umbra]

Need to log off for a while to do dishes and In around 1 and a half hours I think my friends will join, the despair will be big in the swamp!!!

[plush umbra]

Lmao 🤣

[gray sand]

Swamp is what I just got to in my current run.

Rebuilding house while turnips grow. But no iron yet.

[plush umbra]

Brb to chat with you guys!

[gray sand]

👋

[cobalt canyon]

We are Iron junkies in this place

Must needs more, more more