valheim-chat

[snow rover]

The best survival game hands down running away with it, that is still releasing free content on the regular..... Isn't perfect!?!?!? The horror 🙂

[exotic cradle]

Idk how or what people play, the only "bug" I've ever seen is stam mead not showing up on the tray sometimes lol

[near furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/we'll-get-into-that-later-bionicpig-we'll-talk-about-it-later-we'll-cover-that-later-gif-9725334898771771963

[tacit crystal]

Decorationist's worst nightmare.

[exotic cradle]

Ikr

[signal bloom]

Is this only applicable to local saves, and not dedicated servers?

[azure yacht]

You missed the point but sure...

[signal bloom]

I literally have zero issues growing my own vineberries but host my own server

[near furnace]

Rianu joined the dark side

[tacit crystal]

Not sure about dedicated servers since I've never played in them. But in local servers yes, they vanish after logging out.

[signal bloom]

In fact i have so many vineberries idk what to do with them all, i got stacks and stacks of em

[tacit crystal]

Well, food for tamed asksvins!

[signal bloom]

Sometimes I'll log in and 30s later theyve ALL grown and ive got like 100 in 1 run, and more spawn before i can even finish collecting them

[exotic cradle]

Same, just run around when i needem, dozens

[signal bloom]

Never seen this or any bugs for that matter

[exotic cradle]

If you use the tray to put down a Lingering stam mead it doesn't show up sometimes

[signal bloom]

So weird

[exotic cradle]

#steam-bugs-discussion message

[signal bloom]

Only thing that really bothers me is if the game crashes or d/c's while sailing. You'll end up completely separated from the boat... but this isnt a bug I would say.. since world / character positions became unsync'd since their data is separate I believe

[snow rover]

Don't feel that I did.
You'd rather they slow down and address minutiae that 99% of players never encounter or notice.
I think they are on the right track
Don't make perfect the enemy of the good.

[shy marlin]

Except it’s not free content

We bought deep north already when we bought the game

The content we get is the content we paid for

[frigid gust]

No, we bought the game as-is. Steam is very explicit on that with Early Access game purchases.

It's what was promised and Iron Gate is delivering on it, but there would be no recourse for anyone if they just walked away now, other than ill will and loss of future sales.

[shy marlin]

I mean sure but you’re paying for the content early

So you’ve already paid for whatever mistlands/ashlands/deep north will be

[exotic cradle]

You bought a game at one point, everything you get after that point is a bonus

[shy marlin]

If they turn out to be nothing you still paid for it to be nothing

[pliant radish]

Technically you bought a license to play the game

[exotic cradle]

I play and pay wow monthly as an example, and there are literally game breaking bugs where some zones don't even load for years, idgaf

Valheim is cheap as is, everything you get is more than worth it

[shy marlin]

I agree, the content produced still isn’t free which is what I was pointing out

[light moat]

At the end of the day, we all just want to see bugs fixed and fun content to play

We’re all on the same team

[snow rover]

I have what I have, and am very happy with it. If from this point on I get more, that extra is pretty darn free in my book.
It would be very easy for them to charge for it. How many games have paid DLC? They could have called the plains 1.0 and charged for the rest piecemeal. If EA was in charge, what would DN cost you? Now look back at what we expect to actually happen.
That's what I mean by free, and its pretty hard to argue with.

[light moat]

Nothing wrong with being happy with the content you have, but there’s also nothing wrong with pointing out bugs and the like. Both can be true

Thinking about starting a new playthroughs, give knives a shot 🤔

[zealous thicket]

I really enjoy knives in a 2+ playthrough. It gives you more opportunities to get the backstabs and do fun sneak assaults

[tacit crystal]

Knives are great. 👍 Up and close inside personal space.

[light moat]

My goal is to try and put a lot of emphasis on the sneak skill, looks like it could be fun!

[tacit crystal]

Sneaking behind troll starting with the jump attack using copper/abyssal knife is fantastic.

[light moat]

Had my taste of that using flesh rippers, looking forward to more of it

[tribal trench]

Magic is so much fun =+)

[light moat]

I’m using magic on my current playthrough, I agree it’s pretty fun! Haven’t reached Ashlands yet, but I’m excited for all the Eitr weapons.

[tribal trench]

Cool! I am just now getting into it

I have always played the sword/mace and shield warrior with a 2 hander as a back up but..... seeing all the chat about magic earlier sparked my interest

[light moat]

Same, I had to see for myself what all the hype about magic was, and it’s definitely pretty neat! In my hands, it’s pretty balanced I think, but I’m also constantly forgetting to do things like keeping my protection shield up, not letting my Eitr regen, and getting too close to enemies. But I’m learning lol

I can see how magic is extremely good in the hands of a more talented player than myself.

[tribal trench]

Hehe Indeed! I'm very fresh to it I bet your far better than me =+) My friend does all the magic damage for us usualy but hey I can try right lol

Have a great day peoples =+)

[ember kraken]

Personally I found magic to be really enjoyable in 2 player (and probably in more). Part of it was due to friend running ahead of me and causing lag with his bad connection, so parrying and dodging was troublesome.

But also just because if he stands up front, I can support/bombard from behind. (Also since he ran ahead, using magic let me smash stuff from far behind while trying to catch up to him....)

[fossil tide]

anyone wanna play valheim with me?

[tacit crystal]

Someone in https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1024264966712340510 might want to.

[wet night]

what can you offer?

[robust token]

What should I do when entering the Mistland by boat?

I have the Wisp Light on me, but it seems like it's not doing much

[wet night]

so you can actually download a mod revealing much more of that mist

but if not then you need to keep with what you have

that wisp light is the best what vanila game offers

[charred rune]

You have to work with that. Once you got your hands on the new wood you can remove the fog bit by bit with a new torch.

[robust token]

Yeah so, I have portal materials, can I just go there and put it down.. and should I be ready for enemies? #screenshots message

Also it's hella foggy

[wet night]

just get bonemass power if you scared

[charred rune]

That's not Mistlands fog. 😄

[wet night]

it is, look at the minimap

[robust token]

It's nearby

[charred rune]

Says Plains...

It's always a good idea putting down a portal while progressing or even traveling longer distances.

[robust token]

There's some dark grey part, where's the Mistlands

[charred rune]

The purple cloud on your map, there you have to go

[robust token]

yeah it is the mistland, it's safe so I placed down a portal

[charred rune]

Then tread carefully and enjoy the next biome. 🙂

[robust token]

yeah, thanks

It's pretty close to a Plains, maybe that would be a better place for a checkpoint

[native wind]

Misty*

[azure yacht]

I am completely sure that not getting any vineberries despite waiting for probably hours IS something that NOT "99% of players will not notice"...

[heady parcel]

What are all these bugs and glitches? I can honestly not recall a single game breaking bug that I've come across in all my time playing this game, which is dangerously close to 2,000 hours. The most jarring thing I can think of is the stark biome boundaries in the ocean in places, and that's a purely visual thing.

[plush umbra]

I started playing about a week ago and i have no idea what i'm doing most of the time - so I definetly would not notice/understand vineberries not spawing - my map is just full of skulls/deaths and i've probably had more deaths than days at this point 🥲

[native wind]

I like that instead of assuming you're doing something wrong, you instead immediately leap to game must be broken and bad

[heady parcel]

Most triple-A releases with like 60 gameplay hours in them at best tend to release WAY more buggy - at 1.0 release - and are often not fixed before most of the player base has moved on to the next hawt thing. Valheim is a marvel of polish considering it is still in EA.

[tacit crystal]

Stagger glitch is when you stagger certain mobs during their attack animation but their attacks still connect, dealing damage.
Self grown vineberry vines produce berries oddly and if you don't pick them and logout they vanish.
At least some of those bugs, not gamebreaking IMO but still need to address.

[heady parcel]

Sounds like minor things. Don't think I've ever noticed the stagger thing, sounds like a latency thing more than an actual bug to be fair.

Still things that needs fixing of course, but not the kind of things I'd go ranting about

[tacit crystal]

It's not latency issue, I have also encountered said bug.

Let's say if you play harder difficulty it can be very annoying.

[heady parcel]

Come to think of it I think I have gotten that from lox a few times when trying to stagger them with the atgeir. Always put it down as me just mistiming the attack...

[tacit crystal]

Same can happen with seekers too.

[heady parcel]

I wouldn't know, seekers I usually just bonk without much strategy. Doesn't happen with parry at least.

[azure yacht]

I can recall two:

Tombstones disappearing if game crashes/unexpectedly closes right after dying

Flying glitch from lavaiathans

[tacit crystal]

Staggering with weapons like atgeir secondary or battleaxe is when that happens, not during parry.

[azure yacht]

you instead immediately leap to game must be broken and bad

I would sure love the exact message where I said "this game sucks and it's broken". I'll wait

[heady parcel]

Suspected as much, since I pretty much only use the atgeir as my I-WIN-stick vs lox if I have to fight them out in the open, I've never noticed it anywhere else.

[light moat]

#memes-and-clips message I’m just being a goober, but I had to post this just for you 😂 with love of course

[azure yacht]

lol

[heady parcel]

Never experienced either. What is the "flying glitch from leviathans" about, sounds funky?

[azure yacht]

Character used to (or still does) get stuck in a falling animation while on lavaiathans

[heady parcel]

Ah, no haven't seen that one. Granted, I only ever hop on one or two leviathans each playthrough, only need enough to make the harpoon.

[tacit crystal]

I thought that was fixed.

[native wind]

#valheim-chat message

This reads that way

[heady parcel]

As for tombstones disappearing if the game closes just after dying (why would that happen, Alt+F4 to try and un-die?) can't that just be that the game didn't have time to save the data before it closed? Dunno how that could be fixed really, if a program hard crashes it won't finish whatever it was doing.

But yeah, if I did the corpse run after dying and my grave just wasn't there, I'd be upset. Definitely!

[signal bloom]

Skill issue 😝

Joking

[snow rover]

OH, well if you are sure. I suppose there is no need to interrogate the matter further. But just for funsies.
What percentage of players do you think beat Bonemass?
What portion of those go on to beat Ygluth?
what sub-section of those ever see a vineberry.
Let alone plant them in base, let alone experience your bug?
But you are sure, so this is all not worth considering. I'll assume you know more than you seem to.

No one is saying bugs shouldn't be addressed. They seem to do a pretty good job at that actually. But to stop all other development until every discernible detail is to your exacting demands, would not be the something most players would like to see.

I think you will find your view very much in the minority.

[light moat]

Grapes of Wrath

[heady parcel]

Oh goodness, a chest in a crypt had 18 iron in it. Jackpot!

[native wind]

I just find it incredibly pretentious to whine that an unfinished early access game has bugs in it, and when pressed on a specific bug brought up that may or may not even be a bug you pivot to whataboutism. Vineberries, according to the wiki, take over three hours to grow. And that's on top of the vines needing a lot of criteria and extra time to spread in addition. So you complaining that it's taking "hours" isn't a bug at all

[vocal rivet]

Vines are bugged though. If you log out before they're grown they'll reset.

[rain flare]

They will get fixed though

[merry pebble]

And it Is a known bug thats gonna be worked on when there Is time, just look at the support page.

[rain flare]

Just takes some time to do 🔥

[vocal rivet]

I wasn't suggesting otherwise, just refuting the idea that there aren't any bugs.

[merry pebble]

Oh i know, i was just adding up to that 🙂

[heady parcel]

One VERY minor thing that has annoyed me is those occasional passages in sunken crypts where there are stairs UP leading to a dead end. Since their elevation would make them at a higher level than the entrance, there should be something at the surface indicating them - but yeah. My head canon says the entrance is actually a long staircase down, so that small flight of stairs upwards does nothing...

[ember kraken]

My personal favourite was a sunken crypt where I took left, left, left. And realised I stood where the outside of the enterance should have been. Or basically inside the stairs down the entrance.

Also fun to pickaxe the earth away from under a burial chamber, and see the enterance empty floating in the air.

[heady parcel]

Yeah, they should simply make the ground around entrances unbreakable to avoid that

[ember kraken]

Can't help it, I just enjoy all the janky terraforming stuff.

[heady parcel]

Aside from that, the burial chambers in Valheim are the best crude, ancient dungeons I've seen in any game. They truly feel ancient, the visual design and the ambience is perfect.

A bit sad that once you're into the swamps there is little reason to ever revisit them

[ember kraken]

Same kind of goes for most things in the game. Very seldom good reasons to go back for stuff.

[snow rover]

Iron in particular, is useful throughout play. Always reasons to get more

[heady parcel]

Not sure I agree, a lot of things end up being useful later on, in some way or another, but anything you find in the burial chambers is pretty much irrelevant once you've moved on from the forest.

[snow rover]

best thing I can think of, is during mistlands you might go back to farm skeleton trophies for the summon staff

[heady parcel]

Maybe there could be some copper scrap or something there, wouldn't be game breaking for players on Black Forest as current content, but would provide an alternative to mining, if you prefer looting.

[light moat]

Would make it easier to progression skip though, for what it’s worth

[snow rover]

given the designer's stated love of the black forest. I doubt we would see any big changes to it.

[heady parcel]

Alas, people do that already by troll or whatever

[ember kraken]

Also copper without Tin is still limiting. So eh. Wouldn't make that big of a difference.

[heady parcel]

Heh, or maybe - at random - an actual "ancient sword" item that is useless as a weapon - but teaches you the recipe for a prettier bronze sword than the regular one.

[light moat]

To be fair… Black Forest is pretty perfect 😁

[ember kraken]

Mechanically, might be my favourite biome.

[heady parcel]

Black Forest is what sold Valheim to me to be fair. Walking in there, seeing the eyes of greydorfs glowing in the gloom, and then hearing the bellyrumbling of something BIG and blue, gods I wish I could relive that

[ember kraken]

Still the biome I enjoy the most just walking around in.

[heady parcel]

First time I made actual combat contact with a troll I was literally paralyzed with fear and could only watch as he bonked me senseless

[signal bloom]

1st time seeing a troll is unforgettable, not to mention they blend in Soo well

[ember kraken]

My first experience with a troll was playing with a buddy in voice chat, and he was talking while chopping trees. Suddenly he yelps and goes quiet, I ask him what happened. "I got killed by something blue."

[crystal heart]

How dafuq ar you supposed to find 2 star asksksvin I js spent 10hours on ashlands trying to find one to tame.

They literally dont exist. Its a myth

[native wind]

It's luck, and yours is bad lol

You'll find one once you stop looking, that's how it goes

[crystal heart]

How do I get luckier?

[native wind]

Gamble more I guess

[crystal heart]

Aight

[tacit crystal]

It's like with starred wolves: 2 star asksvin can appear only during night and despawn at dawn if taming process haven't started.

[heady parcel]

Anything 2-star is always rare as fudge. I think I've seen a two-star troll twice in 2k hours.

[exotic cradle]

i want a 2star askie so bad

[light moat]

They’re so powerful 😭

[crystal heart]

Yes but I spent like 40 nights in ashlands looking for it apparently they are jusy extremely rare

[heady parcel]

All two-stars are extremely rare.

[exotic cradle]

more importantly, they're pink

[tacit crystal]

You surely go near lava areas where Asksvin usually spawn?

[crystal heart]

But I've seen 2 star wolves many times

[crystal heart]

Yes

[tacit crystal]

Bad rng really.. 🎰

[heady parcel]

That's just RNG - I've been looking for a two-star wolf to tame for weeks now, no luck. One star I usually se once a few hours or so, but two - nope, gotta get lucky

[tacit crystal]

Basically 1% chance for mob to spawn with 2 stars (10% per star).

[heady parcel]

Ummm, I just got a ghosts and wraiths raid, never had that ever before - is it new or just rare?

[charred rune]

Somewhat new

[tacit crystal]

Added in Bog Witch update.

I call it free chain delivery event.

[heady parcel]

Aaah, makes sense, I only just came back after that

[charred rune]

Wasn't sure which update, but it had to be quite recently

[heady parcel]

Also I found brenna running around near my base terrorizing the local greydorfs, I suppose she raided while I was AFK and got bored 😂

[signal bloom]

I gave up on 2star askvin for now.. after many ashlands nights turning up empty handed

[heady parcel]

Something I learned while playing WoW is that it is nearly pointless - unless you have inhuman focus and resilience - to actively pursue anything with that low "droprate". Just play the game and be ready to drop what you're doing to grab that thing that time you DO find it...

[exotic cradle]

^ can't relate I farm until I get it

[tacit crystal]

Once in my recent runs I encountered 2 star asksvin randomly without trying to look out for one, then it required hasty actions before dawn to start the taming process.

[paper roost]

no 1 rule in valheim, you always find what you are not looking for 🙂

btw hi guys

[tacit crystal]

Yeah, for example just go sailing to certain destination and you will encounter multiple serpents during the trip. Try hunt serpents and you will find none.

[paper roost]

i jumped to valheim for a while after update, quite interesting twist in fps

[open crater]

wanting to jump into valheim but i dont want to do the early access replay loop, does anyone know if valheim is closed to a 1.0 release?

[ember kraken]

Nowhere close.

[buoyant panther]

ETA unknown. It's quite fun in its current state, though.

[tacit crystal]

There is no currently date for 1.0 release, but the game is very much worth the price currently.

Especially when it's on sale.

[paper roost]

there is no such thing, you can do different style, difficulty etc, always new things to discover

[tacit crystal]

Jump in now, you can continue your world even after 1.0 is released or start a new world then too.

[wooden tapir]

i legit spent 35 nights looking for one, i counted every night

sometimes you just get unlucky

this was same playthrough it took me 25 nights to find a 2 star wolf

so 55 nights of gameplay was spent chilling looking for breeding slaves

[tacit crystal]

15ish nights took me to find first 2 star asksvin in first Ashlands run. Next 2 runs were much more luckier.

[exotic cradle]

wtb 2star askie eggy

[signal bloom]

Wow that is crazy luck

I think i spent over 40+ and nothing still

Perhaps my strat was bad. I dug a few holes near large lava fields near a fortress I had, and had roughly 4-7 askvins that would spawn at a time

Id do the loop killing all askvins in attempt to force a new spawn that was 2 star.

All at night

[exotic cradle]

that's a wow mindset

[signal bloom]

Yeah im used to that kinda grind from WoW 🤣

I got kind of frustrated after numerous valkyries kept invading the area ruining my farm loop on some nights

[heady parcel]

Well, the game has many, many hours worth of playing in it as is. I'm 2k hours in myself already and not getting bored yet. There is one major update left that will bring it to 1.0. They have dropped some very vague teasers so far, but best guess as to release date would be by the end of this year. Might be sooner, but I seriously doubt that, while I also doubt it would be delayed any further. But, as others have said already, there is really no need to wait for that final biome - you can play and replay what is in already countless times. It's just that kinda game where the journey is the whole experience, not "beating" it.

[near furnace]

next major update is 1.0 release

[azure yacht]

I will reword that as I'm sure it's not perfectly clear:

next 👉‼️MAJOR‼️ 👈 update is 1.0 release

[heady parcel]

There's just something about sailing into your main base harbour with a longship fullly laden with iron. It's stupidly satisfying!

Spent a couple of nights ransacking the crypts of a major swamp a long ways from base, then made a loop to pick up gathered stashes of black metal before that last stop with all the iron. Felt like working freighters when I actually worked at sea, heh.

[night night]

anybody play vanilla?

[pliant hatch]

It'll be even more satisfying the moment you drop that last iron bar in the storage chest and start to consider what to use it for.

Only to discover you got not even a quarter of what's eventually needed.

[pliant hatch]

In this channel?
Most likely the most of us. Why?

[night night]

@pliant hatchbecause I got to the plain and I was about to cut yagluth, my game crashed and my saves are gone, I need the yagluth preparation save file

[pliant hatch]

There should be back up saves as well.

[night night]

I looked over there and they're empty.

[pliant hatch]

Are you using cloud saves or local ones?

[night night]

cloud

I know where they are, but they're empty, do you have the registration file for yagluth?@pliant hatch

no cheating if possible

[pliant hatch]

Not on my current games.

[night night]

How's your lowest enrollment file?

@pliant hatch

[pliant hatch]

Just did swamp on both games. One on normal, one on hard.

Also, no need to keep tagging me if we're the only one talking here.

[glad sundial]

i am here,.. just not talking 😉

[night night]

😄

can u share me on hard?

🙃

@pliant hatch

@pliant hatchbro

[tribal trench]

What a total damage sponge these seeker soldiers ><

I hate bugs....

[glad sundial]

you have to hit them in the butt

[night night]

@glad sundialbro u have mid-game save?

[robust token]

Went into the Mistland, greeted by Seeker and a soldier, dead

[tribal trench]

hehe they pivot in place well... I like fighting them most of all but I still hate these damn bugs

[glad sundial]

.db?

[night night]

both

world and character

[glad sundial]

no

[night night]

😦

ı dont want play early game

very boring

[heady parcel]

Ummm, well, if you want to skip the early game there are tools for that

[light moat]

Would probably be a lot easier to just spawn what you want instead of getting a whole save file 😅

[ripe dock]

I built my base over a demolished fuling camp and now I get the cool music cue everytime I enter my base 😅

[heady parcel]

Classic! Fuling village music is awesome! I built my barley/flax farm at the site of a fuling village I razed into oblivion. No remorse, those green buggers had it coming!

[ripe dock]

Vile creatures

althought I wouldn't mind recruiting a beserker or 2 for guards

[chrome badge]

I was considering building a plains base within a village and keeping the structures for myself just last night.

[ripe dock]

Yeah, I thought about it, but you can't repair them if they get broken 😦

or can you

[chrome badge]

Sure you can, the materials you'd have to use just wouldn't match 😅

I don't think you can repair fuling structures no

[ripe dock]

yeah, the bone stuff is really cool though

just need a few fuling heads on spikes, as warning to the others

[abstract warren]

Does anyone here use an axe as a weapon?

It doesn't have any advantage over a sword right?

[ripe dock]

only when im chopping wood 😄

[shy marlin]

1h Swords are generally greater than 1h axes becaues 1h swords don't have multi target penalty and 1h axes do (except for the axe special)

However axes get a super cool and good weapon in the ashlands, so it might be worth investing if you want to

Axes also save on an inventory slot, decision is up to you

[regal spoke]

Spirit and cold are available in sword.

[abstract warren]

What do you mean multi target penalty?

[wooden tapir]

if they hit more than 1 target, the dmg gets split

[abstract warren]

Oh

[shy marlin]

Yea so if you can hit 2 things with a 1h sword it's much more valuable

[wooden tapir]

u can see this happen when you hit a tree, if you hit 2 trees at once the dmg is split between the 2

also not sure if the axe has block combos, but the sword does

have not tried with an axe

[shy marlin]

don't think axes have block enabled combos

[wooden tapir]

so that could be another plus for swords

but most ppl dont impliment them

[shy marlin]

wouldn't expect a player who's asking if they should use swords/axes to know about block enabled combos/even use them tho 😅

yea for sure block combos is very rare for a player to do

[wooden tapir]

i mean i would use them more, but most of the time you dont really have an opening

or i havent found any reliable openings yet

[shy marlin]

I use em mostly in dungeons and bosses

[wooden tapir]

yea bosses would make sense

[shy marlin]

General open world i find it's just faster and simpler to just do the normal stuff

[abstract warren]

Yep I'm a noob lol

[regal spoke]

Axe do slash and chop where swords only do slash. Something else to consider

[abstract warren]

Wtf is block enabled combos lol. I mean it sounds pretty self explanatory but maybe I'm missing something

[shy marlin]

not a noob, I can count on my hands the amount of people that do block enabled hands

[shy marlin]

Basically doing multiple inputs to get some extra damage

[wooden tapir]

kinda hard to explain, easier to watch

there are a few vids on it if you are interested

but its super niche, not reliable in most scenarios

parry into spam hit is still the best way to go about fighting

[regal spoke]

Acts as an animation cancel right?

[wooden tapir]

kinda, more of a timing thing

[shy marlin]

ye

it's like animation cancel but then restart the animation

[regal spoke]

I guess it's worth for optimal DPS. I could see it's relevance against thicker mobs

[shy marlin]

Atgeir has entered the chat

[wooden tapir]

have not really used the atgeir that often

[ripe dock]

I love the atgier, great for when you're surrounded

[abstract warren]

It's an awesome weapon tbh

[regal spoke]

Atgeir and Bow have always been "meta"

[wooden tapir]

ive mostly used maces, doing axes this playthrough, been implimenting some spear in early game due to how broken flint spear is

i did main weapon sword for mistlands tho

[regal spoke]

Stun locking mobs with atgeir is kinda broken.

[regal spoke]

This is the undeniable importance of atgeir and sledge. Great for crowd control in group fights

[ripe dock]

yeah frostner has saved me quite a few times

[opaque bobcat]

do you guys know if stone golems damage silver veins?

[chrome badge]

Last I checked they do not, they're a good indicator of when you're at the right height to find silver though.

[robust token]

Although Frostener is good for "staggering" enemies, I found that Black Metal weapons deals more damage in the Mistlands, which one do yall recommend? Black Metal Atgeir or Sword?

[chrome badge]

That's a tough one, I used both myself, but if I had to choose one it'd be the Atgeir.

[nimble moss]

They don’t. The only mob in mountains that does is Moder

[chrome badge]

You supposed to say I'm afraid not 😦

[nimble moss]

lol. Your right. I missed a chance.

[robust token]

I usually prefer Blunt weapons, and pair it with a round shield. I guess I can give Porcupine a try.

As it is a dark metal weapon as well

[robust token]

Oh wait, I should actually go with Atgeir.. for seekers

[mystic sonnet]

Bruh, i wanted to see my world cuz i factory reseted it, after i join the world..... "They sougth you out".

💀

[vocal rivet]

Ok?

[tribal trench]

Do infested mines in the Mistlands respawn monsters inside? Like after a certain time has passed maybe?? I don't think they do but this one...I been here before and it's full of bugs

no matter...more stuff to collect I suppose.

[tacit crystal]

They do actually spawn some new mobs inside the infested mines, as they have rewenable jelly piles too.

[tribal trench]

Oh do they now! This is welcome news!! Very cool indeed =+) I can revisit these mines and stock up on precious jelly too

[nimble moss]

Only some of the mobs respawn. Not all.

[paper spire]

Hey, everybody. It's 12:00 in the afternoon. How about you?

[exotic cradle]

10

[warm sandal]

10 here too

[tiny tiger]

10am

[tacit crystal]

Now it's 12am.

[robust token]

5pm

Now it's 6

[shy marlin]

5 am 😎

[opaque bobcat]

That is..quite the workaround

[light moat]

8am for me 👀

[shy marlin]

Can also just lure a troll to the mountains and have em break silver for ya

[opaque bobcat]

If a stone golem can't break a silver vein, then how am I to expect a troll would?

[tacit crystal]

#screenshots message I see you enjoy some Klossen too @glossy dune.

[shy marlin]

🤷‍♂️ by testing it, doesn't make any logical sense that a troll can but a stone golem can't but that's just how it is

[tacit crystal]

Troll can break silver?

[shy marlin]

yup

[tacit crystal]

Wow. Unexpected.

[opaque bobcat]

Same

[tacit crystal]

Gotta go test in my test world.

[shy marlin]

I didn't believe it either until my buddy henrik showed me

[delicate carbon]

Is paid dedicated server only 10 slots?

[azure yacht]

Ask them

[delicate carbon]

Ask who?

[azure yacht]

The server provider...

[regal spoke]

Mine is. Seems most are. Even though Smiffe suggested 4-5 players would be more optimal. A world can't truly sustain ten players

[tacit crystal]

It's true! Also it can break obsidian.

[shy marlin]

Nice

Wonder if seeker soldiers can break silver

[regal spoke]

Save me a wiki trip. Does troll do different damage than Golem

[tacit crystal]

Stone golems cannot break either obsidian and silver.

[regal spoke]

Right. While Trolls have been able to for years now. Just curious if it's a difference of damage types

[shy marlin]

nah not really any differences in damage types

[tacit crystal]

It's the pickaxe/chop power in their attacks.

[shy marlin]

they both do blunt pickaxe and chop pretty much

[regal spoke]

It is what it is. To make it tougher in the mountains? Interesting

[shy marlin]

ya prolly

much easier to lure a stone golem to a silver vein (if it were possible) then to lure a troll up into the mountains

[regal spoke]

Exactly. Another thought.Will fighting a golem near silver still reveal the location? "Too hard"

[shy marlin]

Not sure about that one, they changed up some displays for pinging a few patches ago. Eg. Iron sledge used to ping too hard and now it pings 0s for silver

[tacit crystal]

Stagbreaker only shows the "too hard".

[shy marlin]

Yup

[regal spoke]

Just thinking this could be a reason to block Golem from affecting silver

Could use them as locators

[unkempt iron]

Do I need to start a new game to find the bog witch

Or is she able to found prepatch

[shy marlin]

Assuming you have not explored all the swamps in your world ye you can find her in your current world

[unkempt iron]

Nice

Thank you

[glossy dune]

Been experimenting with Klossen plus towershield, works actually quite nicely

[tranquil hinge]

hello!

[tough anvil]

I just tried out Ashlands for the first time and i thought a zone couldn't be more aids then mistlands lol

[tacit crystal]

Klossen is great weapon. Pairs really well with Thunder axes when you get group of warriors immobilized and you finish the job with axes.

[tough anvil]

My skills have all regressed back to the same lvls as when i went to my first swamp 😄

[regal spoke]

Right tools for the job go a long way.

[glossy dune]

What build are you playing? Ashlands are tough for the first few hours, magic makes it much easier in the beginning, frostner or mistwalker are also great choices.

[tough anvil]

Using mistwalker with full uppgraded carapach gear

[glossy dune]

Use root harnesk for pierce resistance combined with fire res mead, it helps big time

[tiny tiger]

bone mass or eikthyr work well too

[tough anvil]

I might just suck but i feel like there is just so much coming at me all the time i barely have any stamina to do anything but avoid and run

[regal spoke]

Something like atgeir for crowd control in such high mob count

[tiny tiger]

The first drop on Ashland’s seems to be very different for everyone based on RNG

My first landing ever to Ashland’s was perfect i set up portal and got to flametal fairly quickly, my second landing? Got absolutely ravaged by every enemy on the continent

[glossy dune]

For me it always feels as D-day, welcome party at the beach with serpent

[tough anvil]

Yea i had that when i arrived, That corpse pickup was no fun at all 😄

[regal spoke]

My first drop was straight into double spawners. I had another player with me. It was chaos.

[tough anvil]

My axe skill is down to 11 lol 😄

[glossy dune]

Check screenshot section, I had 3 morgens and valkyrie with bunch of charred hunting me when I left the beach for the first time, 3 morgens ! 🙂

[regal spoke]

Did you run back naked lol

[tough anvil]

Na, You don't loose skills when corpserunning 🙂

[regal spoke]

Two star Morgen's hit like freight train 🚂

[glossy dune]

For the first conquering of ashlands protection, ember and frost staff just help so much plus you have 2 energy bars with eitr, stamina making you fast and versatile

[tough anvil]

I guess, I just didn't realy find the magic stuff that much fun 🙂

But if that's what it takes i guess i just gotta roll with it 🙂

[glossy dune]

Ye in solo playthrough it might be painful for a while. Gotta look forward to those insane end game weapons and armor @tough anvil Also Ratatosk elixir is too damn good

[tough anvil]

Aye, The Ratatosk is real nice! I guess i just gotta muddle through and try to improve my gear and use all the buffs i can when i go out 🙂

[nocturne wolf]

Lightfoot mead helps a lot for dodging attacks

[thin sonnet]

Yeah and also beware of asksvin haha

[tough anvil]

Yea lol, Have one knock me into the hotbath earlier 😉

[thin sonnet]

2 star or even 1 star are really vicious ones for sure

[tough anvil]

Yea i run from those mostly lol 😄

[tacit crystal]

2 star only spawns during night tho, but even 1 star can wreck bad.

[tribal trench]

you got a 2 star Asksvin don't you?

I wonder if there is that big a difference from a 1 star to a 2 star in performance while mounted but I guess that is players riding skill?

[dreamy kiln]

please keep it english in here, thanks 🙂

[merry pebble]

A wild rsmlord appears 👀

[dreamy kiln]

🫡

[wispy latch]

Demons appear by simply speaking latin

[tacit crystal]

In 3 worlds I've managed to tame 2 star asksvin.

[shy marlin]

do you use them for movement?

[tacit crystal]

Well, they have more HP and damage but no other noticeable differences when riding.

[light moat]

I’ve only ever found 2! Nicely done

They hit like trucks, they’re insane

[tacit crystal]

Rarely, I have some of them in Ashlands outpost tho. But I've also secured them in my main base and have several eggs in chest too.

[light moat]

They shred lox to pieces

[shy marlin]

Never bothered with taming em

[median ivy]

Trying to haul like 15 stacks of black marble back to my base. How the hell do I do it efficiently? Meginjord isn't cutting it and a cart taken to the mistlands is a bad idea because so much rocky terrain

[shy marlin]

Portal?

[median ivy]

Could work actually but server owner made portals more strict

[tacit crystal]

Even taming 1 star is enough for not running out Asksvin tails and hides for the rest of the game, 2 star one is just plus.

[fossil vault]

boat

almost always a boat is the best way to transport items (if portals are disabled)

[tacit crystal]

One time was pure luck and accident, but managed quickly dig a pit and start the taming before dawn.

[tribal trench]

I tamed a 1 star recently and it took a long time heh

[tacit crystal]

First time took 15ish nights to encounter one.

Second time it took 2 nights and almost right after dusk was set.

[sinful fulcrum]

I cant https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yvDQKKcp9nQ

like 50 mods

[exotic cradle]

He never even tried HM, last time he played was before the modifiers, he really didn't need 50 mods -.-

[sinful fulcrum]

bro's hardcore mentality of 1 death = delete character in valheim is resetting at least 5 times the game

[exotic cradle]

Can't even get past Eikthyr at this rate

The racoon death right after eik yesterday was funny af tho

[tacit crystal]

Has few times now, I believe 19 characters are dead and barely passed to BF.

[light moat]

Ah yes, “quality of life” 😅

[exotic cradle]

Did you see that absolutely ridiculous "tent" he built 2 days ago 🥲 never been more triggered

[tacit crystal]

I can imagine.

[exotic cradle]

Physical pain

[tacit crystal]

Also emotional. 🥲

[exotic cradle]

I miss when his wife used to make him houses lol, actual effort

[tacit crystal]

Then he breaks floor that has dandelion under and put it back in wrong direction.

[median ivy]

He has them on so if we have armour in our inventories we can't bring it back because it's technically metal smelted into their forms. Thank you so much. I guess I'll have to make the trip all the way back. Appreciated

[exotic cradle]

Wait what if it's black marble just teleport it?

Could also get the troll strenght potion for less trips

[median ivy]

1. I have my armour on me which is made from iron
2. My tools count as not allowed to be transported
3. I did not know there was a strength potion now. Thank you for that info

[exotic cradle]

Bring the BM as close as you can to a portal, then run naked 😄

[median ivy]

Lol. Ok that sounds good with me. I will try that. My only other problem is transporting my entire gear loadout back to my base

My mistlands outpost is at the most southern part of the map and my base in the plains is pretty far.. I think north-east of the map

[exotic cradle]

Maybe use non-metal armor? Troll for stealth or Fenris for extra speed?

[vapid hearth]

Did an update make wood no longer damageable by water? I notice the wood poles submerged in the ocean no longer take damage

[shy marlin]

Don't think so? Probably have a mod at play

[vapid hearth]

Last I checked, I don't have any waterproof wood mods installed

[plush umbra]

Can someone maybe drop me some early game basic armor for my charecter don’t have a lot of time to play during week to farm just made my first house but don’t have the time to scavenge for a bunch of leather scraps thanks or even donate some leather scraps would help a lot working on catching boar at the moment some help would be great appreciate it

[nocturne wolf]

Mods can break the game in ways completely unrelated to their content

[azure yacht]

https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Developer_console

[plush umbra]

Is game pass same as Xbox live?

I purchased an Xbox to play this game not to sound crazy

[vapid hearth]

...huh
I thought the ones I had weren't active anymore or something
I can only hope getting rid of them won't break something else

I can only assume it's remnants of the buildable boat mod

[azure yacht]

no

[plush umbra]

10-4 appreciate the help man I’ve spent a few hours to farm 14 boar and still ain’t got enough for my gear. Then learnt to catch boar can’t wait to get my farm going!

Just a damn troll smokes my house every third day

[signal bloom]

While it was attacking you!?

[tacit crystal]

No, it didn't get aggroed yet so I went back to nearby fortress I had cleared earlier and dig a pit next to the wall. Then I lured it into the pit.

[signal bloom]

Ahh okay was gonna say that seems crazy lol

Unfortunately i cant even hardly see askvins in ashlands at night until I'm right ontop of them, even with my screen brightness maxed.

[tacit crystal]

I had no harpoon so I lured it to lunge attack into the pit.

[signal bloom]

This is the way

[tacit crystal]

I was quite lucky to notice it's darker skin and larger size and not aggro it, those asksvin has quite large aggro range.

[heady parcel]

Ummm, a squad of skellies just spawned inside my base, how is that possible. All the workbenches etc are intact, and the skellies appeared in the room beneath them, no more than 3-4 meters away

Skellies are barely a nuisance, but if that happens with something more dangerous as I'm farming, I'd be in trouble...

[near furnace]

If you buy the game on xbox, it's the exact identical game as on PC

[native wind]

Sniffe when 1.0

[shy marlin]

insert gif

[fossil vault]

mods?

them going around/over your walls is also a possibility

[heady parcel]

No mods, and the entire outpost is on a raised plateau, next to it there's a terrace for growing crops and a bridge between. There's no way in for walking mobs, of that I am 100% sure. The terrace is outside the building with the workbenches, but I was on the terrace planting barley and they came out of the house to attack me...

[fossil vault]

odd

[heady parcel]

yeah

Well, as long as it's just skellies I'm not too fussed, annoying if they smash stuff up but that's about the worst that can happen.

[fossil vault]

keep a couple of wolves guarding and they will kill the skellies (ofc if smth like fulings spawn they will get obliterated but thats a tomorrow-you problem)

[heady parcel]

Indeed

I think I figured out what happened. They must have spawned out on the terrace and walked into the house, when I ran out I simply didn't see them, they were probably clustered under the staircase since they can't path up ladders. Then they came out after me

Gonna slap down some standing torches on the terrace

[sturdy fjord]

My first time playing (i'm solo), I have beat the Queen, but I'm scared to move onto the Ashlands. I think I'm just going to chill and chop down trees and collect honey for awhile.

[tacit crystal]

What scares about Ashlands?

[tough anvil]

Bruh, My axe skill is down to 11 after going to ashlands 😄

[sturdy fjord]

The environment and pretty much everything I have read on the internet 😩

[tough anvil]

I've died more in the last day then i did all the way up to ashlands. And it's not even close 😄

[sturdy fjord]

The mistlands and the Queen specifically were tough for me, I probably just need a bit of a reprieve

[tiny tiger]

No rush take your time lol

[tough anvil]

Yea i gotta see my therapist about PTSD after going to Ashlands 😄

[tiny tiger]

Ashland’s is literal hell on heim

[sturdy fjord]

Haha the Ashlands reputation precedes itself once again 😭

I respect it though, afterall it is endgame content.

[tiny tiger]

On my second playthrough and have over a dozen deaths in Ashland’s so far

It’s weird coz I can’t think of any other game like this where a single playthrough can be hundreds of hours long

[sturdy fjord]

I love it, I've never played a game like this at all and I'm obsessed with it.

[tough anvil]

Aye, It's awesome! But Ashlands is on a whole other level when it comes to EVERYTHING wanting you to die a horrible painfull death 😄 My apple watch even gave me a notice about my pulse 😄

[sturdy fjord]

I really respect the dev's for making a game that has actual difficulty and nuance, and not just handing everything to players. Too many games these days baby the player way too much. But also maybe I am speaking too soon as I haven't been to Ashlands yet aha

This game literally makes me want to learn game dev because I'm so impressed with it.

[heady parcel]

Valheim does have a good difficulty progression. Meadows is just cosy, then you wander into Black Forest and it throws the Big Blue guys at you, for me that first troll encounter was about the scariest moment I've had playing computer games. The sheer, unmitigated panic I felt. Then I was so afraid of that brute when trying to get my stuff back - but then the elation when I finally killed my first troll, whoah! The game throwing things at you that you need to learn how to beat before you can move on, I love that.

[undone remnant]

Do you have to progress in the game? (from zone to zone) or can you stay in certain zones and just "live your life"? :<

[tiny tiger]

Depends on if you are playing the story or not

[nocturne wolf]

Beating the game when it gets an ending will require killing every boss

[tiny tiger]

The story is to defeat all the forsaken which requires going to every biome and killing their respective boss

[heady parcel]

Stay in meadows for 2000 hours if you want, the game will not force you to progress

[undone remnant]

But what if I just wanna play it as a sandbox survivor?

[paper roost]

you will be satisfied in the ashland than 😄

[tiny tiger]

then by all means do so

[nocturne wolf]

You may want to progress for more materials to build with but you don't have to

[undone remnant]

What happens when you "complete" the game then? Does your world reset?

[tiny tiger]

Endgame is pretty much peak freedom you have access to everything

The ending isn’t finished we only have up until Ashland’s

[nocturne wolf]

We don't know because there is no ending, but this will definitely not happen. Hopefuly you can continue as if nothing ever happened

[undone remnant]

I'm still debating on what sandbox survivor Im gonna give a go. Looking for something enjoyable after long poker grinds :<

[tiny tiger]

I’m just imagining they do the drop in at spawn sequence but in reverse, the Valkyrie flies you to Valhalla

[shy marlin]

Hope it's more epic than that

[undone remnant]

It's down to Ark and Valheim. Valheim looks to have a less toxic community

[nocturne wolf]

We get flown off to Odin's super secret hall of necks 🤞

[summer hinge]

Where we get to kill all the necks we want?

[undone remnant]

How does this game run on older PCs? (Considering getting my girlfriend to play also) her PC is 4-5 years old.

Can it run somewhat smooth on lower settings without looking like Minecraft? :<

[tiny tiger]

Won’t know until you try it we don’t know your specs

Can always refund or keep until she gets an upgrade

[summer hinge]

It runs perfectly fine on a Ryzen 5 3600 processor, 16 gigs of RAM, and a GTX 1070ftw (my setup until recently)

[paper roost]

i have 10 y old pc, going well

[pliant hatch]

Steam has the system specs listed on the store page.
So you could consider to compare those to her PC.

[heady parcel]

Valheim has struck a perfect balance of sandboxy exploration, survival, building and crafting. The game lets you play however you want. If you want to loiter in the starting biome and build up stockpiles of stuff - you can do that. If you want to speed progress to get to endgame - you can do that. And everything in between. I tend to rotate what I do in phases. Gathering, building, exploring, crafting, growing crops, and once in a blue moon I'll go kill a boss when I'm so overprepped only the fact I suck can lead to failure...

[sturdy fjord]

Plus all the cool ways I see people modify their playthroughs, like the no-map people, those people are masochists 🤣

[heady parcel]

I don't think I'll ever submit myself to no-map torture, but next playthrough I'll go with portals disabled.

[undone remnant]

She has a AMD Ryzen 5 3600 6Core and RTX 2060 Super

16 GB ram and SSD

[heady parcel]

Mine runs fine on an old i7 from 2014 with a GTX1070

[summer hinge]

Oh, that can run it EASILY

[undone remnant]

Great. I really want her to play with me ❤️

Inbefore the puns

[summer hinge]

You of course may need to slightly adjust the graphics settings, but it definitely won't need to be on minimum

[tiny tiger]

Prioritise render distance

[heady parcel]

I run it nearly max on 1440p with that old GTX1070, Valheim is very forgiving

[merry pebble]

Except the graphics card i have basically the same setup 🙂 i can play at pretty smooth 60 fps through the whole game (with one or two exceptions which are just very demanding)

[heady parcel]

Only ever get the odd lagspike when the world saves, but I think that's a general thing, no?

[tiny tiger]

Yeah

[undone remnant]

Mine is also abit meh. RTX 2080 OC and i9-9900k. Wasnt really meant for gaming at first but it turned out that way.

[tough anvil]

That was a powerhouse a few years ago, Should still be able to handle most stuff at 1440p aslong as your don't got ham with the raytracing 🙂

[undone remnant]

Does Valheim have Raytracing?

Sadly the i9-9900k's single core performance isnt great. But I didn't buy it for gaming back then.

[tough anvil]

No it doesn't, i meant in other titles 🙂 Tho Valheim has some realy pretty light effect nonetheless 🙂

[undone remnant]

Valheim only takes up 1.5 GB?

From the videos the world looks massive?

[heady parcel]

Yep!

Indeed

[nocturne wolf]

The world is procedurally generated

[tough anvil]

Yea and the world is it's own file. So a heavily played world will make the file bigger but not big in any way

Dunno about a fully explored world but the ones i've played have never crossed the GB marker

[undone remnant]

What's the difference between playing in vulkan and the other option it gives you?

@nocturne wolfDo you know? :<

[nocturne wolf]

Sometimes the other option can perform better, so if you are having performance issues you should try it and check if it runs better.

[undone remnant]

How do we play on same server? Can I host it on my PC?

[nocturne wolf]

You can check the 'start server' box when loading a world and invite people through your friends list

[summer hinge]

From my understanding, Vulkan generally runs better on older hardware. @near furnace would be able to explain best likely

[near furnace]

um I can't explain to much why

it usually just works better for most

[summer hinge]

But I am correct in that it's often better on older HW?

[near furnace]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsxn93Wb7vk

and Valheim don't support DX12 😄

[near furnace]

um. oposite

[summer hinge]

Ah

[near furnace]

older hardware can have issues running Vulkan, hence they should try both normal and vulkan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNHr0jJ4q3E

if you're nerdy

[heady parcel]

Never tried Vulkan, as long as dx-whatever works, I feel no need to mess about

[tough anvil]

Old timer as i am that's been around since openGL and the inception of direct X i'm scared of new things and consider Vulkan Voodoo 😄

[heady parcel]

Same!

[near furnace]

just try it

it it works, it works

[tough anvil]

Never been as hyped as when i went from my 8 mb voodoo 2 to a 32mb Riva TNT 2 😄

[near furnace]

else I slap you guys with my old Matrox Millenium card

[heady parcel]

The fey magic behind serpents suddenly not appearing when you want to find them...

[tough anvil]

I had a matrox g200 paired with that voodoo card 🙂

[near furnace]

I got a few olden cards around

Matrox Millenium, Matrox Mystique, Riva TnT 2, Voodoo 2

and some other wierd "stuff" laying around in a bin 😄

[tough anvil]

I wish i'd saved more of that stuff now that age and nostalgia is starting to set in 😉

[near furnace]

hehe

I got all of them saved 🤔

[tough anvil]

One day you'll be telling your grandkids how Gordon Freeman got out of Black Mesa on that thing 😉

[undone remnant]

As in steam friends list or ign friends list?

[upbeat crypt]

You're supposed to put heads on a pike, not put a pike on a wall

[nocturne wolf]

Steam

[heady parcel]

I wish I'd saved my first PC, was a Pentium 60 with a brutal 8 MB of RAM, with a video card that actually had 2 mb of dedicated memory, not a common thing back then. Spent every penny from a summer job on that thing, and a year later it was hopelessly obsolete haha

[upbeat crypt]

but really, if you catch a class3/4 fish, you don't turn them into filet, you mount them. Who wouldn't?

[rain tapir]

who here has balcony ideas?

[exotic cradle]

elaborate

[undone remnant]

How do I change password on a server I created?

[vocal rivet]

Run it with something different after -password

[heady parcel]

Don't think it's a dedicated one

[covert gate]

how do i upgrade workbench to lvl 2?😔

[merry pebble]

Pick up flint near water in meadows 😉

[covert gate]

okay, thanks. but how many? cuz i have some flint already

[merry pebble]

Ah, then you should have the upgrade unlocked already 😄 look to the right from the workbench in hammer menu for a build piece with little star

[covert gate]

ohh, workbench improvements?

[merry pebble]

Yep 🙂

[covert gate]

tysm

[violet egret]

Hi, good night, someone strong can help me?

[tough anvil]

Man, Started a new playthrough and finaly reached Ashlands and was looking forward to seeing the content for the first time. But honestly it's slowly draining the fun out of the game for me... 😦

[chrome badge]

Ashlands are draining the fun out of the game?

[fresh cairn]

I wanted to ask about the difficulty in game, because the game feels easier than before on the normal difficulty, or is it just me ?

[ember kraken]

Probably just you, the more you learn about the game the easier it gets after all.

[fresh cairn]

They are more so a war than what you were met with before

[tough anvil]

Not to me, Might just be me sucking but i've got 1800 hours in this game but ashlands is just killing me over and over

[ember kraken]

Ashlands is a clear up in difficulty spike.

[fresh cairn]

I mean we use the same characters with levels in skills but still feels a little off, a friend started playing the game with us too and he dies a lot more so I guess I will lower the difficulty back to normal so he doesnt lose all his skills

[chrome badge]

It takes some getting used to, best tip I have is to run along, find putrid holes, and take cover in those when you find yourself in a bind.

[ember kraken]

I can see the point though, I've only played through ashlands once yet myself, and it felt like a long tedious slog. I'll probably have to play through couple of more times before I adjust to the difficulty to be honest.

Honestly reminded me a bit about my first time in Swamp.

[fresh cairn]

You can turn off not to lose everything but cannot switch skill drain off, which is still annoying

[tough anvil]

Yea my skills are down to what they was when i entered my first swamp

[ember kraken]

If you set the world modifier to its lowest, you'll only lose 1% of the skill instead of 5% (iirc)

[tough anvil]

Might even be lower at this point

[fresh cairn]

Yeah but it still is a lot

I just want to lose items not skills, because yes I get the challenge and all but tbf imagine spending a lot of time just leveling a skill then you enter the ashlands and your skills vanish

[ember kraken]

But yeah, I found Ashlands like a siege. I ended up going a certain distance, then slap up a workbench, and terraform up a small plateau, so I could get away from things (portal if needed, range hordes down if needed, range down spawner if needed etc), and then repeat.

[fresh cairn]

The main issue with ashlands, honestly, is the fact that even having max upgrades on armor and weapons doesnt eleviate the pain of fighting againts the amount of enemies and you can easily get overwhelmed

Also you are met with the brunt of your weapon choices

Only Melee build gets the biggest disadvantage

[tough anvil]

That's my jam, Been a melee player always

[fresh cairn]

Magic is great, arrows sort of lose purpose

[ember kraken]

Also note that if you run on hard combat difficulty, shields becomes a lot worse, which can really throw off players that depends on them.

[tough anvil]

I realy don't fancy the magic stuff and all that so i'm kinda stuck

[fresh cairn]

I will lower the difficulty to try to get my friend skilled up, we are already in the swamp

[fresh cairn]

try crossbow and bows, doesnt change the needs of your character much

Only issue is that you wont have those skills leveled up enough

[tough anvil]

Running full uppgraded mistlands gear with mistwalker, And i feel like a zone shouldn't invalidate a playstyle completely

[ember kraken]

I'm traditionally a melee person, but ended up playing through Ashlands on magic, because I was playing with a friend that likes to run ahead, and has bad internet connection. So I got all the lag, so I gave up trying to time parries, and most dodges. And just went with Boomsticks.

[tough anvil]

Just finding a opportunity to swing the weapon when swamped with all the infinitely spawning mobs in Ashlands is a task onto itself

[fresh cairn]

It doesn't completely invalidate it but you need to change your approach, and beware of morgens they are force to be reckoned with, if you want to fight them with melee, jump on them, specifically on its thigh it can't really hit you there

[ember kraken]

The little I did melee in ashlands, was a lot of kiting, corner hugging on any terrain I could find to break los, and a lot of ranged/bow destroying spawners.

[tough anvil]

The fallen Valkyries hitbox is a joke as a melee. While the mob just does a spin and 50% or more of your HP is gone

[ember kraken]

Yeah, don't think I fought that in melee at all, bow or magic for me there. Too bothersome to deal with otherwise.

[tough anvil]

Yea but 9 times out of 10 your fighting the valkyrie and 5 - 10 other mobs then just appear out of thin air as you're fighting

[fresh cairn]

yeah its painful but you can overcome it with either crossbow or bow

just dont make cheap bolts

[tough anvil]

Well i'm down to 17 bowskill at this point which doesn't help with motivation 😄

[tacit crystal]

You could use the chaos for your advance: most large mobs deal friendly fire to others so they can clear out smaller fries and hurt each other.

[tough anvil]

i've gone from like 75 ish something in runskill down to 44 since entering ashlands

[ember kraken]

At one point, me and buddy had found a place we wanted to get to, but it was so difficult to get there, we kept dying, I think he died 5-6 times. I got fed up and just grabbed piles of stone, and terraformed a earth-high-way straight through it, so I could walk on high and ignore most of the enemies.

[tough anvil]

I guess that would work, Doesn't feel like the intended way tho 🙂

[ember kraken]

Yeah, it's just what I tend to grab for when I get frustrated or annoyed. When I have that "¤#"! this!" moment, I grab my hoe and a pile of rocks and solve it.

[tough anvil]

Hey, If it works it works 🙂

[tacit crystal]

Psst, death penalty can be adjusted in world modifiers, there is nothing wrong doing that.

[wooden tapir]

pretty common experience, i went from 97 to 35 runskill

brutal experience your first time

[torpid yarrow]

returning after few years ,playing on casual settings ,couldnt find trolls for 30 mins ish, boss locations are really far apart too is that normal?

[vocal rivet]

Just RNG.

[pliant hatch]

Let's see....

Trolls are only found in the Black Forest. Either roaming "freely" or in caves. The latter are showing a couple of skull and bones in front of their entrance.
As for boss locations, as DereK said, it's a lot of RNG that sets their locations. It usually depends at where their biome actually spawns.

[torpid yarrow]

yea found roaming Trolls felt like they are spongy/tanky than i remember back then

[clear comet]

once your skill reaches 30, and 60 threshold hte game will feel a lot easier

[glossy dune]

Used magic early in Ashlands, now running in just full melee and bow, running skill at 93, bow at 85, jump at 80, feels good man @tough anvil

[tribal trench]

I just found a cave with tetra fish..... yes!!!!

[clear comet]

can I just say

that queen is harder than fader, just because the tools you get in ashlands is just way too much

[shy marlin]

Yea

Also queen summons are regular enemies meanwhile faders summons are 1 hits and fader usually kills half of em through friendly fire

[plush umbra]

is there different dlcs to buy for valheim? just got the game idc

idk*

[sinful rampart]

oiiii help meeee . how do I remap the ping button to a different key?

[paper marsh]

Nope. But it does get updates every now and then. Next big update will add a new biome and make the game officially launch

[rain flare]

Oooooh - softsnail! Haven’t seen you in a while 🥳

Howdy! 👋

[paper marsh]

🤭

[plush umbra]

Wait the game hasnt officially launched yet? When did it come out

[paper marsh]

hiya

[rain flare]

Nice!

[paper marsh]

start of 2021 I think it became playable? It's a pretty complete game imo, tons of content. But they're still adding more

[plush umbra]

Yh

[rain flare]

No idea if you can 😅
Haven’t tried

[plush umbra]

I only just got it but me and friend gonna try playing and completing it without spoilers etc

[paper marsh]

Best way to do it. I had a lot spoiled playing with an experienced friend

[rain flare]

Enjoy!
It’s a great game!

[sinful rampart]

tks :<

[rain flare]

Agreed
My favourite experience was bumbling into a very specific biome cause I REALLY wanted to build a base there - found out everything is hostile, so I slowly built a starter hut, upgraded it to a fort, and upgraded that to a small village ( with the help of my friends), and finally upgraded that to a full blown castle

Not to mention the hours I spent trying to… befriend some of the natives

[paper marsh]

Must be ||plains||

There we go

[rain flare]

No spoilers now 🤭
Yay! 🔥

[torpid yarrow]

something will go unnoticed if you are first time player

i have a progression guide bookmarked just in case i get lost

[regal spoke]

You'd have to try to ignore the clues

[torpid yarrow]

game gives you proper guidance but there are players who would wanna unlock as much map as possible ignoring the bird

played with someone who tried to unlock whole island and kept running for 3,4 in game days

||then realized map is quite big||

[exotic pumice]

I finally found the Queen Vegvisir after months. My life is complete. I'll make preparations and tomorrow night fight the Queen

[obtuse remnant]

does anybody know how the base map graphic is generated in the world? not the process of revealing the map as you explore, but what is actually shown on the map

[tacit crystal]

There are forests and open areas in certain biomes, which are shown on your map, although the map doesn't update itself even if you cut some forests down. You can use markers to mark locations on your map and also remove them.

POI locations are not shown on your map.

[nocturne wolf]

The terrain on every pixel (2048x2048) is given a colour based on the biome and height. Then a second layer is done showing the location of forest areas within meadows, black forest and plains.

[glossy dune]

Klossen is awesome, best mace variation in the game, feel free to change my mind !

[plush umbra]

i take it there isnt any achievements to earn in this game?

[merry pebble]

Not yet 😉

There will be eventually

[paper roost]

despite that mace is a weak weapon, the klossen is most likely best call 🙂

[merry pebble]

Why would it be weak weapon? 🤔

[paper roost]

slow, knockback is annoying, low damage, its only good for 2 bosses and for those who cant fight 😄

[merry pebble]

Same speed and dmg as a Nidhögg, tho i also dont like knockback

Also, most of bosses are neutral to blunt dmg, and one is weak to it, so it is really good weapon for them 😄

[paper roost]

slow animation makes it not interesting for certain bosses

[tacit crystal]

Wholeheartly agree.

[glossy dune]

Honestly playing Klossen with towershield, I just easily tanked and controlled bunch of charred with morgen and 2 askvins, not even breaking a sweat, all that with at least 50% stamina at all times. Lot of control is the key

[tacit crystal]

The knockback helps a lot to keep distance from multiple charred even blocking isn't necessary as they miss their hits, plus additional chance to immobilize enemies.

Best 1h weapon type for crowd control surely.

[paper roost]

surely not, you do the control, not the weapon 🙂

[tacit crystal]

You know what I mean.

Or yeah, I do the control but with right tool it's easier. And maces are best 1h tool/weapon for that.

[glossy dune]

Get a root proc and switch to either thundering nidhogg or axes to finish the job

[tacit crystal]

For bigger targets I like to use Primal axes to keep immobility affecting longer to finish the job.

[paper roost]

Joelkkii, have you ever think that slow mace is the reason you get in to crowd? its so slow, that before you kill one enemy in ash, another 4 or more appear 😄

[merry pebble]

Again, it has the same speed as a sword 😅

[paper roost]

it doesnt

[tacit crystal]

Both 1h maces and swords share the same attack animation.

[paper roost]

try parry morgen and use secondary atack, you will see the difference

[nocturne wolf]

The secondary attacks are different, the primary is shared

[paper roost]

with mace, you have to move to your enemy, or wait for him to come back from knockback

[nocturne wolf]

Jump attacking allows you to move towards them while attacking so that's not much of a problem

[paper roost]

yes, but than you need way more stamina

[merry pebble]

Oh yes, that is why i dont like knockback, but the primary attacks are exactly the same and on secondary the mace is actually faster 🙂

[nocturne wolf]

It isn't that much, especially in later game where your stamina bar is huge and there are ways to reduce it

[tacit crystal]

When there are more enemies around you can keep hitting with primary attacks and switch targets when one gets knocked.

[nocturne wolf]

Feather cape, ask armor and lightfoot mead reduce it significantly, and together with eikthyr it can cost 0 stamina

[tacit crystal]

I like also doing this, jump secondaries.

[paper roost]

mb on the paper, in reality its different. if you really into investigate that, watch some xmal saga runs, there is a proof. with secondary of sword, you do double damage, with mace you dont hit in time for that

[glossy dune]

Feather cape, ratatosk + lightfoot mead + eikthyr and you feel like superman in mistlands @nocturne wolf or anywhere else for that matter hehe

[merry pebble]

Do you know any enemies that can be used as an example? 🙂 Will go try it myself

[paper roost]

morgen

[glossy dune]

You wait for a root proc and you swap into your thundering weapon @paper roost

[tacit crystal]

I'm recalling being able to deal double damage against Morgen with mace secondary after parry. Have to test later if my memory fails me.

[merry pebble]

On it right now! 😄

[nocturne wolf]

Just did it, you can definitely parry and secondary a morgen with a mace

You have to start the attack immediatly after parrying though

[paper roost]

well, what i m trying to say is not to blame maces, its just the propaganda of that weapon here is way more than it deserves. there are so many great weapons you can use, you just have to adapt the playstyle. yes, mace is easy to use, basically brainless sometimes, but saying its best weapon is not correct

[nocturne wolf]

There is no best weapon

[tacit crystal]

One would say best is subjective.

[merry pebble]

I dont think anyone said it is 🙂

[paper roost]

many people do, not you tho. its just general observation of the chat

[merry pebble]

Ah 😄

[torpid yarrow]

i tried to mine whole copper node at once by collapsing it but picked a wrong node apparently

it was too close to water so cant isolate it

[merry pebble]

Btw just tested the secondaries, you can get the mace secondary to hit but it indeed does seem to take a bit longer than the sword secondary, you have to time it really well to hit. 🙂

[tacit crystal]

So my memory was correct.

[glossy dune]

Secondary attack works really well vs warriors since their pathing is easily predicted

[tacit crystal]

Yeah, plus their movement is slower.

[paper roost]

well, again, all secondary atacks works well for them 🙂

[tacit crystal]

True, no one denied that.

It's just @glossy dune and I, fellow Klossen enjoyers, who have kept conversing about its usefulness. 👍

[glossy dune]

Plus the looks of Klossen, another plus hehe

[merry pebble]

A brick on a stick xD

Not gonna lie i dont hate the look 😄

[tacit crystal]

Well, like Smiffe said, kloss translates into building block.

[echo rune]

I don't have the game yet..... I'm wondering is it worth it to get the soundtrack package as well?

[torpid yarrow]

tried 3 different boss stones all pointing at same location thats miles away T_T

[tacit crystal]

Soundtrack list is very nice in this game, but it can also be found on Spotify.

[echo rune]

So you don't really need it

[tacit crystal]

Not necessarily.

[paper roost]

the game is worth to buy for sure, dont know anything about soundtracks

[tacit crystal]

Mm, especially on the half the price it's now currently.

[torpid yarrow]

make sure to have grindset mindset or it can be taxing

[echo rune]

Yeah I noticed today that it is being sold half price

[merry pebble]

It is way more than worth it even at full price 😄

[ember kraken]

Boss stones (Vegvisirs) point at the nearest boss. So if you go to 3 different ones in the same rough area, they're likely pointing to the same one. If you want to try to find a different one, you usually have to travel far in the opposite direction to the one you've found and try vegivisirs in another part of the world.

[echo rune]

Is it ok to play solo? Or is it better to group up?

[ember kraken]

Up to the individual, some like solo some like coop better.

[merry pebble]

Its mainly a single player game 🙂

[tacit crystal]

Both are good. Coop is better with close friends instead of strangers tho.

[echo rune]

I heard maybe some of the boss mobs you need a group??

[tacit crystal]

No need, game is balanced for solo play.

[crystal heart]

Finally got it 🙏

[ember kraken]

I'd agree with this, but I also know there are others that thinks meeting random people in online servers is the best fun. So yeah, up to the individual :)

[crystal heart]

holy shit that took long

[tacit crystal]

Preparation is what makes difference.

[ember kraken]

I've managed everything in the game so far on solo. Even most of it on harder difficulties (though I'm not a big fan of that)

Just be prepared to get absolutely destroyed a lot of times. :p

But yeah, be prepared to have to try out things, be patient, especially bosses are often a slow attrition grind to kill them etc. Test out different weapons to find what works best, learn how to block, parry or dodge thigns etc.

[tacit crystal]

Depends on individual yeah, some people can be douches tho and ruin the experience.

[ember kraken]

Yup, like all my real life friends! kidding.

And regarding the soundtrack, personally I really liked it, since I use MP3's a lot, and don't touch those new fangled kiddie toys like spotify! Bleeh! My old nokia phone runs on mp3's scratches and love! (And a tiny amount of super glue and duct tape)

[echo rune]

Thanks for all the info 😃

[heady parcel]

Those of you who know stuff, for a heavy armour user, is the serpent tower shield a good idea to use in Mistlands? Its block armor is obviously long since obsolete, but the pierce resist might make up for it? Especially vs those pesky starred ones that hit like freight trains? I usually never use tower shields since the slightly better block imo doesnt make up for the horrible movement penalty and no-parry. Normal loadout is heavy armour and a regular shield, gives me a bit of tankyness while retaining enough mobility to not get hit most times.

I was mainly wondering if we know if the block damage reduction is applied before or after the pierce resistance.

[merry pebble]

If you want pierce resist the root harnesk would be a better option imo 🙂

Tho i am not sure when the pierce resist is applied, i would assume after the block

[heady parcel]

Nah I'm good without that, I prefer not to burn like paper and be squishy to everything else...

[merry pebble]

Fire resist wine 😉

[nocturne wolf]

Resistances are applied after blocking and before armor

And blocking resistances (serpent scale shield) are applied before block armor

[robust token]

I go with round shield, sword and pleaded armor

[heady parcel]

That is good to know, I'm willing to try it out in the name of science then. Before now I have never had sperpent scales, but after a couple of successful hunts now I do 😄

[merry pebble]

I usually do too 🙂

[heady parcel]

Haven't died to seeker s yet this time around, all my deaths this run have been to jumping off my tower...

[nocturne wolf]

Serpent scale shield and other sources of pierce resistance stack, you can take 0 damage (no damage number shows) from fader's spin with enough block skill

[robust token]

Round shields have party bonus, good for combos, swords attack fast and have combo as well. I tried Root Harnesk but it didn't help much

So I just go with full pleaded

[heady parcel]

Yeah, round shield, sword and whatever heavy armour is flavour-of-the-biome is my usual go-to. I've tried lighter, mobility ways but I don't really like the playstyle. Although travelling in fenris with 100 run skill is a delight...

[robust token]

Seekers neutral to magic damage and resist a bit to slash, but my dark metal sword deals more damage than they can resist lol

A friend of mine told me to bring Frostener but I found it deals too little damage

Although it deals blunt, frost and spirit, which are neutral damage to Seekers

[heady parcel]

Black metal sword is good stuff. I bring the Mistwalker into mistlands, but outside that I prefer the black sword. It will stagger fulings, Mistwalker will not.

[nocturne wolf]

Seekers are immune to spirit and resist blunt

[robust token]

Oh

Welp

[merry pebble]

Eh... that they are resistant to slash just means they take half of what the weapon says. There is no treshold above which they do not resist it anymore.

[ember kraken]

It still works since they don't resist the frost. So it's still honestly useful.

[heady parcel]

The slow and knockback is the Way of Frostner though, whittle them down slowly...

[winged sage]

i'm new

[robust token]

Hi new

Welcome to the tenth world

[heady parcel]

Frostner has puny damage even in the swamp to be fair, its strength is not the damage output

[winged sage]

i wanna play with people

[pliant hatch]

I'm sure you will find someone in https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1024264966712340510

[merry pebble]

Look in #1024264966712340510 🙂 tho if its your first time playing i suggest to try it alone first

[robust token]

I guess it's more of using the Frostener to slow down enemies then attack them with other weapons? Or just pure Frostener?

I found it doesn't hit hard in the Mistlands

[winged sage]

i don't like being alone : (

[robust token]

Don't worry, you have Hugin

[nocturne wolf]

Frostner is good for normal seekers but porcupine is better for everything else, and has much more stagger on the secondary attack

[ember kraken]

I find frostner just works, even if it isn't the best damage it usually does the job, the frost slow down effect makes it safer than most other weapons. It has a pretty good mix of different damage types etc.

[heady parcel]

More of a combat control fighting style, you keep enemies out of reach, whack them again when they get near, rince and repeat until you slapping them grinds them down

[ember kraken]

But yeah, for damage, parry something, and use the frostner's alternative attack.

[heady parcel]

Yea, works with single enemies 👍🏽

[merry pebble]

Well Valheim is primarily a singleplayer game with the co-op option 🙂 and you will learn most stuff that way. But if you want to play with others then it might be best to rope a few friends to play with you rather than strangers

[winged sage]

is it okay to write something at #1024264966712340510

[robust token]

Yeah

[winged sage]

I wish I have friends to play with

[robust token]

I was thinking to try out that too, as it deals blunt and pierce

And the only dark metal tier weapon that doesn't require dark metal

[fossil vault]

BM is so annoying to farm so yh

[robust token]

I usually encounter multiple Seekers at once so.. xd

[robust token]

BM?

[merry pebble]

Black metal

[robust token]

Are they?

Just kill Fulings

[nocturne wolf]

You can get a lot of it from fuling camps too

[fossil vault]

with 3-4 ppl BM is a bit scarce

[robust token]

At that point just tweak up your loot multiplier

[merry pebble]

Might be, but you dont really need that much 🙂

[pliant hatch]

Why annoying?
I got a farm in the plains and each day I visit it I'm attacked by 3-4 Fulings and a couple of 'Squitoes. Easiest way to get BM and Needles if you ask me.

[fossil vault]

yeah ig, although the other metals were optimal

[heady parcel]

Black metal comes naturally from moving around the plains tbh. I've never had less than enough, even when we were a small village

[robust token]

I always have more than enough BM xD

[fossil vault]

idk, maybe I just did smth wrong

[robust token]

Only Iron is a bit annoying

[robust token]

Just roam around the Plains more

[fossil vault]

I got enough iron for 6 sets from 1 medium sized swamp lmao

[robust token]

Good for you >:/

[fossil vault]

idk maybe it just feels more plentiful cuz it's all in one place

[heady parcel]

With iron I tend to locate a big swamp and empty it of every single scrap, then whenever it runs out I repeat the process. Coming back to base with a longship fully laden with iron, it's a special feeling 🙂

[robust token]

Wait, I think I can upgrade my storage with BM instead 🤔

I have like a chest of them

[fossil vault]

it's a special feeling indeed, the feeling of refuelling furnaces for hours xD

[warm sandal]

I usually have a lot of coal from the surtling geysirs along with the iron and do 4 smelters morning and evening - i am way to impatient to babysit those smelters 😄 just let them run while i am out and about 😄

[clear comet]

I never ran out of black metal

since I make my base in the plains

It's always iron the bottle neck

[heady parcel]

Whenever I have smelting to do I tend to just rotate all the other "chores" at base. Set the smelters, pop to harvest honey, pop to harvest sap and shrooms, plant new shrooms, renew smelters, pick up flour and replant barley, renew smelter, tend to the veggies, renew smelters and so on. It's kinda meditative and I don't mind it. My brother hates all that shit, he just wants to explore and bonk stuff, and that's fine...

[warm sandal]

@heady parcel I try to not be at home as much as I can - because not being there means no raids either 😄 sooooo I usualle fill everything up until my HP is up and then go, come back in the evening and fill everything up (tap sap, tap honey, replant, what have you...) and go sleep - rinse and repeat... makes for less raids and usually I get away with having just a garden wall to prevent fuling from walking into my kitchen 😄

[heady parcel]

That's a legit way to do it. Granted, bad luck can always happen. Recently I was just raising palisades around my shroom farm - which is not supposed to be a base at all but while building it naturally had more base pieces - and the "you got the chills" raid triggered. Thankfully they were distracted by the local dvergr long enough to gobble a pukeberry, eat better foods and pop a frost resist... Sadly, they decimated the dvergr camp who had kept seekers off my back until then.

[cedar swan]

What's the best iron weapon guys

[shy marlin]

They're all super good

Just up to preference, i like atgeir mace and sword

[tiny tiger]

Iron sledge

[void turtle]

Atgeir is my favourite

[cedar swan]

I don't have it in my station

How do I unlock it

[shy marlin]

Need a certain rare trophy

[tiny tiger]

And som dirt

[cedar swan]

Oh

Should I max my iron armor before fighting bonemass

[tiny tiger]

Nah you’ll be fine

I did it with lvl 1 iron armor and bronze mace, scales did it blindfolded

[pliant hatch]

Using the Antidote potions is more important as your armor level.

[cedar swan]

Lol is he that ez ?

[tiny tiger]

No scales is just that good

[cedar swan]

The scale shield ? 🛡️

[tiny tiger]

He’s more like a unstoppable force

[pliant hatch]

No, the member of this discord.

[cedar swan]

Oh

[shy marlin]

[light moat]

Scales is alright

[shy marlin]

Nah i'm shit at the game

Died to fader on my no food run last night again 😔 don't even wanna login anymore

[light moat]

There’s rumors that he spawns berserker mead using dev commands

[shy marlin]

Now that is an old reference

[warm sandal]

yah sure... you do not know how to use food and armor so you gotta play unfed and unclad 😄

[paper roost]

yeah, you sucks, you need multiple tries to kill 9 queens 😄

[pliant hatch]

Most people here would've died after facing their 3rd boar when using no food and armor. So getting to Fader is quite an achievement most won't even think of.

[shy marlin]

Yea completely understand. Just super frustrated. Almost at 700 hours for this no food permadeath challenge and I've gotten so close 3 different times now and I've just fumbled

[tacit crystal]

Battleaxe is quite underrated weapon and really good in swamps.

[warm sandal]

go a little easy on yourself lad.. there are folks out there that can not kill eik without dieing and calling for help... the level of skill you have shown multiple time is beyond and above. 😄 I keep rewatching your Videos being fascinated all the time

[regal spoke]

You got that fight. Take a short step back from the challenge if needed. You'll get it

[paper marsh]

Pretty hardcore. Whats been your main strategies?

[shy marlin]

Abuse the broken stuff (atgeir and bow)

Parrying isn't an option either so that kinda forces the other two

And don't have the option of magic either

[paper roost]

can you do potions, or not even that?

[shy marlin]

I've allowed potions

I'll just state the ruleset, no food permadeath, all bosses must be completed on very hard, (otherwise combat is on normal) and in order (to prevent cheesing earlier bosses with higher than "intended" gear), no progression skips (silver before swamp etc), no boss portals, raids are up to much more, no intentional farming of skills, and a general honor clause (if it feels like cheating it is)

[paper roost]

i like that

i guess ratatosk and berserk mead is your best friend, right?

[shy marlin]

Correct

[tacit crystal]

Cheesy tactics like Demolisher spamming against Queen behind wall seems like out of the question.

[shy marlin]

Yea correct

[regal spoke]

So you jump from normal to very hard with bosses?

[shy marlin]

ye

[paper roost]

thats out of the question for any honorable player 😄

[tacit crystal]

Yeah, same.

[plush umbra]

will my save get fucked when the deep north releases

[shy marlin]

Just don't explore the deep north and you should be fine

[tacit crystal]

No, unless you explore the furthest Northern part of your world.

[plush umbra]

would i still be applicable for the steam achievements when it releases? or will i need to progess the game again

[tacit crystal]

That I don't know, it remains to be seen.

[plush umbra]

fuck i hope i wont need to progress again

[tacit crystal]

I'd assume you could get achievements in your older world (unless using devcommands). But like I said, we don't know it yet.

[shy marlin]

Progression is fun idk why you wouldn't want to do that again

[plush umbra]

id rather not die over and over and over again to do it again

[shy marlin]

word

[regal spoke]

To get better?

[plush umbra]

ngl i think ill hold off playing until achievements come out and id rather not spoil myself

[regal spoke]

Scales you got any more builds you're working on. Or too dialed on the no food challenge

[shy marlin]

not atm

after no food imma do no armor run and that's a little more chill then no food (lol) so plannin on cookin for that run

[tacit crystal]

Maybe I should try no armor some time... Currently I'm limiting armors that have movement speed penalty (so Root Harnesk is out of the question).

[shy marlin]

I think no armor would be a lot of fun yea

[paper roost]

harnesk actually has movement speed penalty, but its not important

[regal spoke]

How is that much more chill. Food gives you a little wiggle room. But with no armor your one shot by most things plains and beyond?

[shy marlin]

No food you can't passively regen hp, which makes all damage permament until you use a health potion

No armor you can tank some stuff for the most part and be fine

[regal spoke]

Fair

[tacit crystal]

Yeah, it fits the category.

Harnesk is one of the most OP armor pieces in game.

[paper roost]

the most op, yeah

[tacit crystal]

Yeah, and fire weakness is easily countered.

[paper roost]

i wanted to do heavy armor only before they introduced the ratatosk, but i just couldnt stand the speed, i would rather do no armor than that 😄

[regal spoke]

Going for knives only back stab only in the future?

[tacit crystal]

Ratatosk really is game changer. 👌

[shy marlin]

I'd rather do no hit valheim then do a knives only run the only weapon type i despise

[regal spoke]

Everyone has their limits lol

[tacit crystal]

Curious, what's with the knives Scales?

[paper roost]

i love the knives, best weapon for me up to hard difficulty

[shy marlin]

short range and just not my style idk, i completely acknowledge they're good just not for me

[tacit crystal]

Well, understandable. Short range is expected however (unlike with spears tbh).

[paper roost]

@shy marlin what about flesh rippers?

[shy marlin]

I like them for what they are, wish there were more fists weapons in the game tho

[tacit crystal]

We can hope 1.0 fixes that. 🙏

[paper roost]

yeah, i think devs missed the timing on each weapon biom, should have been ashland, not deep north

[regal spoke]

Perhaps spear will get a range buff come 1.0 as well

[paper roost]

why?

[regal spoke]

Primary attack has the distance of a knife. Throw is fine enough

[paper roost]

still dont see a reason why it should get buff

[exotic swan]

man playing 20 hours of Val over the weekend really makes the time fly too fast lol

[regal spoke]

The length of an atgeir with effective range of a knife. No problem?

[paper roost]

well, bigger problem as i see it, that it hits multiple enemes with the tip

[tacit crystal]

It's actually 0.1 meters more than with knife.

[regal spoke]

Lolol

[nocturne wolf]

If the hitbox was too thin it would just be too difficult to hit anything

[paper roost]

yeah, i understand why its implemented in the game, its just feels wrong

[tacit crystal]

Splitnir is longer than Himminafl btw.

[nocturne wolf]

How?

It’s simply behaving like any other attack hitbox

[regal spoke]

I killed a prized pig with the over stab.

Not sure I should feel better Joel

[paper roost]

the multiple hits, you not swinging with it, you jab

[tacit crystal]

Despite shorter range spear is actually one of my favorite weapon types.

[nocturne wolf]

Yes that’s why the hitbox is small. Swings typically have a much wider hitbox

[regal spoke]

Pierce has penetrate that's what it is.

[nocturne wolf]

It’s nothing to do with the damage types

[regal spoke]

I know

The smiling neck was the obligated sarcasm indicator

[shy marlin]

[regal spoke]

Somebody just yeet me outta here
💥

[nocturne wolf]

When we’re ready

[regal spoke]

Ready at the waiting Captain 🫡

[tacit crystal]

[regal spoke]

I'm picturing a neck holding those

[shy marlin]

^ Actual final boss of game

[nocturne wolf]

But that means we need to kill it

[shy marlin]

Price to pay for valhalla

[regal spoke]

Mutated and 🐗 team. Hopefully they don't also call in mortar strikes.

[regal spoke]

The classic cemetery. Everyone is dying to get in

[void turtle]

I have never made it past the swamp

[regal spoke]

Not enough content creators doing the immersion challenge imho

[exotic swan]

what is that?

[exotic swan]

get back in there Grease!

[regal spoke]

No map no portals

[exotic swan]

Wait so we're calling it a challenge now to play the base game 🤣

oh you mean like no portals entirely?

[void turtle]

I don’t think I’d survive without a map

[regal spoke]

Poison pots take much of the stress out of swamp. But learning how to combat is huge. Swamp really teaches stam control

[void turtle]

The only reason I’ve never made it past the swamp is because I get tired of sailing

[regal spoke]

So vanilla didn't have a map at one time? Most people nope out at the mention of it.

[exotic swan]

I see what you're saying, I thought you were saying like no Valheim World Map Generator, aka the site that shows you your whole completed map without exploration.

[regal spoke]

Oh Valheim may not be for you. I spent days sailing yesterday. Keen on a spot in the south on my map.

[paper roost]

no map is super fun, no portals not that much

[void turtle]

Nah I love the game so much

[regal spoke]

I love that site. But won't use it while I'm playing a seed.

[void turtle]

I also just get tired of playing on my own

[regal spoke]

This no map run we are on had a gorgeous spawn. "Massive" mountain just north. Spawn is right next to an inland bay.

Don't know the seed yet

[echo rune]

Can you start the game on a server where people are already playing?

[regal spoke]

Yea absolutely

[exotic swan]

I always recommend the first playthrough being on vanilla settings because it's such a great experience, but if sailing really does bug you, there are some simply in game modifiers that can help reduce the amount you have to sail around

[regal spoke]

Could look up a super seed too I guess.

There's a few in #1202740443352137838

[supple current]

https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1222202204513894530

[vapid hearth]

I have to wonder if the Deep North will end up being some sort of viking holy land (with regular, non-fallen valkyries to fight), being the final trial before ascending to valhalla
Either way, I'm so excited
And I hope it'll have uses for my battering ram and/or catapults

[void turtle]

I hope the deep north has an atgeir

[tacit crystal]

There has been some rumors of Deep North getting more variety of different weapon types, but that will remain to be seen.

[void turtle]

Scythes would be sick

[tacit crystal]

There is already one. Not as a weapon but a tool.