valheim-chat

[onyx lava]

indeed

[cobalt canyon]

Or you get a good start island and don't have to worry about sailing out

For a while anyway

[onyx lava]

Yeah i had a few maps with 4 bosses on the starter island

But the island is from top to bottom (of the island) 1/2 the world in height

[craggy niche]

Cart is the base there? Kind of convenient to just boat storage nearby for noportals. I would still probably sail just for the space.

[onyx lava]

I prefer sail for the speed

[gray sand]

builds workbench in cart -> Mobile base.
😏

[craggy niche]

Sometimes sailing speed is fast enough to have serps spawn on the boat deck

[onyx lava]

There is a mod for that

[gray sand]

Mods 🤢

[cobalt canyon]

Anybody ever captured a serpent? Like drawn it into an island and kept it there?

[merry pebble]

Why would you need a mod for spawning serpents?

[gray sand]

Yes.

[craggy niche]

They are blind on land. I don't know why.

[onyx lava]

LOL cart with a workbench on it

[gray sand]

Same reason people can't see correctly underwater without goggles.

[near furnace]

because we made them like that, and they want to go back into the ocean 😄

[craggy niche]

I thought I understood this, but now I dont

[onyx lava]

Gollummmm Gollumm

[craggy niche]

Giant squid are known to have giant eyes so they can see whales sneaking up on them

[gray sand]

Biology.
Human eyes are structured to see light that is coming through air, which is why everything is blurry as shit when you are underwater unless you have goggles to create that air pocket in front of your eyes.

Fish have the inverse if brought out of the water.

[cobalt canyon]

Something feels wrong about the term "whales sneaking"....

[craggy niche]

Never had a troll sneak up on you?

[cobalt canyon]

I-

Right y'are.

[craggy niche]

Would be easier with more fov

[onyx lava]

Also human eyes and ancient eyes from fossiles of water creatures millions of years ago are very similar (eye is almost unchanged except for less pressure and more visual depth perception)

[gray sand]

That's a whole other discussion.

[tiny tiger]

Hold on so to fish the air is like water is to us

[onyx lava]

yes

[craggy niche]

Air is a fluid, yes

[onyx lava]

Air is a gas

[craggy niche]

A gas is a fluid, yes

[gray sand]

And since God is here, maybe don't assume everyone believes about things from "millions" of years ago.

😏 😉

[near furnace]

gas comes when you eat baked beans on toast

[tiny tiger]

i iGod not I God

[onyx lava]

Had that last night

[cobalt canyon]

science

[gray sand]

Why would you ever put non-jelly or non-peanutbutter on toast? 😭

[tiny tiger]

Baked beans on toast is goated wym

[near furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/ron-burgundy-anchorman-its-science-gif-14257322

[gray sand]

🤮

[onyx lava]

?? cheese on toast

[tiny tiger]

Try it before you hate it

[gray sand]

Heathens. All of ye.

[onyx lava]

Burn the Witch!

[tiny tiger]

Where are you from where you only have sweet things on toast

[cobalt canyon]

you need to ask?

[gray sand]

The witch drinks Barley Wine.
It's super-effective!

[tiny tiger]

I’m guessing America

[gray sand]

What kind of peanut butter are you eating that it is sweet?

[merry pebble]

Mr Sevrahn, there is no need for jelly and peanut butter, on of the two will sufice 🙂

[onyx lava]

Merca!

[craggy niche]

So if serpents are immune to fire damage, do land serpents not burn over a (camp,bon)fire?

[tiny tiger]

serpents resist fire damage since they are always wet

[onyx lava]

mmm new season of D4 or Valheim...

[tiny tiger]

unless you dry it out on land

[cobalt canyon]

there's this strange line in the wiki about that....

[craggy niche]

Unless they are a land serpent, right?

[onyx lava]

Just leave it on land it cant breathe air

[gray sand]

Valheim. Because Diablo 4 was really good until the final hour of the story... 🙄

[cobalt canyon]

"Serpent (fire immune) with Wet (fire resist) results in resist."

[tiny tiger]

I find that so backwards that resistance overrides immunity

[cobalt canyon]

Wiki could be wrong

[craggy niche]

I guess I need a land serpent over a bonfire

[near furnace]

doubt wiki is wrong

[gray sand]

"Hey, I know we've been a team this whole game, and we've been working together. And that us working together is the only reason we've been able to defeat all the demons and such. But fuck you, I'm taking the crystal and running away all by myself without even asking. Because there is no way this could possibly end badly. You know, me abandoning the whole reason we won."

D4 story logic.... 🙄

[shy marlin]

D4 bad

[gray sand]

D4 expansion: OH LOOK. RUNNING AWAY BY YOURSELF WITH THE CRYSTAL DIDN'T END WELL. WHO COULD HAVE PREDICTED SUCH AN OUTCOME?

[near furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/archer-krieger-smoke-bomb-get-away-run-disappear-gif-9640060

[gray sand]

Smokebomb confirmed for Deep North? 😏

[near furnace]

you already have smokebombs in ashlands 😄

[gray sand]

Haven't made those 🤔

[near furnace]

you fail 😮

[gray sand]

You made the Berserkir's so good I didn't even look at other weapons 😏

[near furnace]

smokebombs does exactly what you think they do

[gray sand]

Gets rid of ants?

[near furnace]

throw them at ground, enemy loses target, run away

[craggy niche]

Does smoke from smoke bombs rise?

[nocturne wolf]

They make smoke everywhere

[gray sand]

Does it work on Bosses?

Every boss about to be a zero-damage fight if you can make them not target you 😄

[near furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/hugh-laurie-shrug-idk-gif-8385685

[gray sand]

@shy marlin we need you.

[shy marlin]

hmm?

[gray sand]

Do Smokebombs stop bosses from targeting you?

[craggy niche]

Do we need to smoke bombs ourselves or the enemies?

[shy marlin]

never tried

[near furnace]

yourself

[gray sand]

Plz let us know.
Because you're about to have a zero-damage Fader on VH strat 😄

[near furnace]

but also work between you and monsters

[shy marlin]

i want to say no tho but i can try sometime

[shy marlin]

Already have a zero-damage fader strat it's called skill expression 😏 ( sorry i had to)

[gray sand]

Scale expression*

[craggy niche]

If it clears alert status, that would be multiple sneak attacks

[shy marlin]

not really

can only get a sneak hit every 5 min right

[cobalt canyon]

That don't sound right

[craggy niche]

Is that per enemy or per player?

[gray sand]

I don't think that is hard-coded anywhere.

[noble axle]

why do you hate mods?

[shy marlin]

i'm pretty sure it is

@nimble moss do you know?

[nocturne wolf]

I haven’t tested but I have heard it somewhere before

[gray sand]

Not getting into it.

[craggy niche]

I believe I was able to sneak attack queen multiple times in the fight

[shy marlin]

yes only after 5 minutes

i'm like 90% sure on that number i remember testing

[craggy niche]

I would have to time that to test

[cobalt canyon]

Backstabbing an enemy gives it a backstab immunity for 5 minutes. Players are immune to backstab.

so per-enemy

[merry pebble]

Indeed, only one sneak attack every 5 minutes on one enemy

[merry pebble]

Wiki supports this 🙂

[craggy niche]

The only things that survive one sneak attack are queen and Hildir mini bosses afaik

[gray sand]

Valheim super-realism with sneak immunity 😏

[merry pebble]

And other bosses ofc 🙂

[craggy niche]

I don't know any other boss that can clear their alerted status

[shy marlin]

Fader can and I know yag can

Not sure about the rest but i'd assume the pattern follows

[gray sand]

Yag is fun.

[craggy niche]

Weird. How does that work?

[shy marlin]

The Queen is just more apparent because of stair bug and other AI wonkiness

[shy marlin]

really is

[gray sand]

Multi-floor target detection has bugs and wonkiness?
No... 😏

Computer smort 💪

Although, when it comes to enemy AI, you kind of have to make the compromise between "Computer Smart" vs. "Computer Fast"

[craggy niche]

Stand on steep hill. I have the high ground.

[merry pebble]

You underestimate my power!

[gray sand]

Ashlands being so flat is truly a lost opportunity.

[nimble moss]

Sorry mate, do I know what?

[craggy niche]

I think Ashlands is just Swamps 2.0

[gray sand]

If the 5 minute cooldown on sneak attacks is hard coded.

[nimble moss]

It is.

But my secret that I’m putting into my “Afrayed secret video” list in a few days is: It’s session based. So you can logout/login and trigger it again.

[shy marlin]

Ah that's a fun meme

[craggy niche]

So can two players in the same world sneak attack an enemy at the same time?

[gray sand]

Boss fights about to become Smokebomb + repeated logouts for continuous sneak damage 😄

[nocturne wolf]

No, the sneak timer is stored on the enemy

[shy marlin]

sounds anti skill expression 😔

[craggy niche]

But if it is session based, does the session clear when a player leaves or all players leave?

[gray sand]

Log Expression 😏

[nimble moss]

It’s not fully though. Cause logout/login triggers it again

At least when solo.

/shrug.

[nocturne wolf]

So it just isn't saved to the world file?

[craggy niche]

Et tu brute?

[nimble moss]

Haven’t tested multiplayer.

I found it by accident.

Was fighting a Gjall on a speedrun. Was in Mistlands undergreared.

Got fire DoT. So logged. Log back in, sneak attack.

Got fire DoT. Logged. Back in, sneak attack.

Did it like 6 times in a row. Got it on video where I discover it in real time. I’ll post it later.

[tacit crystal]

Et tumor brute? ||knowers know||

[nimble moss]

Maybe it’s just a Gjall bug. I’ll do some testing later to confirm.

[craggy niche]

Mr New Vegas may know

[near furnace]

Alea iacta est

[gray sand]

Mr New Vegas?

[craggy niche]

I think I've only seen this in AC6 (Fires of Rubicon). I don't know if it's from Shakespeare.

[near furnace]

Julius Cesar

I've watched to many Asterix and Obelix cartoons back in the days. not to know his diffrent quotes

[merry pebble]

I think this one was in the mission cleopatra iirc 🤔

[near furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/no-dice-spinning-inception-never-ending-gif-13689346

[craggy niche]

Smiffe educating us with actual history

[gray sand]

Smiffe plz, this is an English server.
😏

[merry pebble]

Also its the valheim-chat xD

[near furnace]

I could post you a thing. allowing me to bypass that rule

[craggy niche]

Oh interesting

Alea iacta est ("The die is cast") is a variation of a Latin phrase (iacta alea est [ˈjakta ˈaːlɛ.a ˈɛs̺t]) attributed by Suetonius to Julius Caesar on 10 January 49 BC, as he led his army across the Rubicon river in Northern Italy

[near furnace]

oh no, I thought this was #general

👀

[gray sand]

Derailing valheim chat. Classic Smiffe

[near furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/when-gif-20190303

[gray sand]

A L W A Y S

[merry pebble]

Well, the topic would make you think that 😄

[strange lake]

You know, I remember when devs teased Mistlands to be "difficulty spike, comparable to one you get from forest to swamp"
And IIRC it was, but then everything got nerfed (or so I heard)

But Ashlands difficulty spike is pretty comparable to the swamp

[gray sand]

They released a beautiful Mistlands.
Then they nerfed it.
They released a beautiful Ashlands.
Then they nerfed it.
Any guesses how Deep North release goes? 😏

[strange lake]

Everything is out to kil you. There are undead everywhere. Some of them are shooting at you.

I really wonder about Deep North. They're also the "polar" biome, just like Ashlands, so it kinda logical for it to be on somewhat the same level.

[tacit crystal]

My grandparents had many comics of Asterix & Obelix I used to read a lot when I was a kid.

[strange lake]

Let's hope I won't miss "beautiful" deep north, just like I missed beautiful Mistlands and Ashlands

[craggy niche]

Apparently also a gambling phrase. Why aren't there dice in valheim yet? How else do we settle disputes between vikings?

[merry pebble]

Single combat 🙂

[strange lake]

Debate with facts and logic?

[craggy niche]

Who gets to wield Dyrnwyn this world? Fight? Debate? Or dice rolls?

[gray sand]

Clearly you've never debated an American.
Facts mean nothing 😄

[nocturne wolf]

The devs seem to love unnecessary rng, Haldor should let us bet on dice as a renewable source of money, with a new gambling skill to go with it.

[craggy niche]

Loaded dice? I love it

[gray sand]

Farkle!

[shy marlin]

💡 slot machines in valheim

[merry pebble]

So that why dvergr are carrying money around

[azure yacht]

"Wtf I just decided to lost all my gold on gambling. devs why tf you implemented this literally your fault (and not mine"

[onyx lava]

Hey guys going into the swamp to get iron... gets there... goes back... hey guys forgot the pick

[merry pebble]

Take a portal with you 😉

[onyx lava]

I did put it ontop of the crypt

Still sad man

prepare everything and then dont have the tool

[gray sand]

So you prepared almost everything 😉

[onyx lava]

You feel my pain, and shame

[tacit crystal]

Usually happens with Swamp key if going to hunt crypts. I always carry a pick.

[nimble moss]

Are you serious here? Or was this a meme?

I know I've tried this and could never get it to work. If you believe they are meant to work that way - I'll go spend more time and try again?

[near furnace]

it should work

[onyx lava]

Yeah I was rebuilding my storage ara and was mass re-stacking so didnt realize after ha

[near furnace]

we did a whole bunch of fixes to it during PTB

most people just assumed it was to kill fires

[tacit crystal]

At least smokebombs now extinguish fires after the fix.

[nimble moss]

I tried the idea of using it to drop agro - never got it to work - but I'm going to go check now and try again

[tacit crystal]

Haven't tested them by myself either to distract enemies.. gotta try later.

[nimble moss]

what would the mechanic of it be? When mobs normally lose sight of you, it doesnt drop agro - they will path around. So why would a smoke bomb cause the agro to drop?

[near furnace]

they should lose track of you

[nimble moss]

If I run around a cave, the mobs follow me with a "!" and are still very much tracking me?

i.e. normally

Anyway - i'll go run some science now and see what I can replicate...

[gray sand]

SCIENCE 🧪

[near furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/excited-huzzah-vldl-ben-excited-vldl-fireheart-excited-vldl-excited-gif-13950581331730447682

[gray sand]

I can imagine you dress like that for work.

[shy marlin]

me n the boys on our way to get a 11000% error in lab 😎

[near furnace]

odin cape for work

[gray sand]

Limited edition.

[near furnace]

yeah

10 made I think 🤔

[gray sand]

Valheim merch store selling capes when? 👀

[near furnace]

hand hade

[gray sand]

Mand hade? 😮

[near furnace]

yup

one dev in the team made them for everyone

[gray sand]

EPIC

[nimble moss]

Any pics? Sounds legit awesome

[nimble moss]

I tried using science.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svbB3NumqQU

Doesnt work? Am I missing something obvious?

[nocturne wolf]

I can’t get it to do anything either

[nimble moss]

I always wanted/wished they acted as a threat drop mechanic - it would make them legit cool and open some real tactics in ashlands.

Currently they dont seem to work though... unless we're missing something obvious - but if its not obvious enough to get it to work - then I doubt most people would discover it.

bugged maybe? /shrug

[lapis pagoda]

In ONE day I went from fresh start to beating shit out of first boss, build my whole house, go to darkwoods, build an ship, sail to try find swamp, find plains instead, get my ass beated by fulings, build small hut there and put portal there, get back to my house, build an farm, and all at with rag armour cuz i was lazy to get enough for better one

[onyx lava]

Welcome to open world games where you get to pick your adventure!

[lapis pagoda]

Nah im not new, i played this game for over 100+ hours, but damn, i never felt this free, truly i can do whatever i want and its kind of rewarding emotionally

[onyx lava]

Didnt say you were?

[cosmic igloo]

darkwoods my fav biome

[lapis pagoda]

nah i was just sayin

[onyx lava]

I prefer blackforest

[lapis pagoda]

oh shi

my bad, i just play on Russian, so i just translated it literally

black forest yeah

[onyx lava]

no problem i like dark wood easier to say /// fewer syllables

[vocal rivet]

"I like dark wood" can be massively misinterpreted...

[noble axle]

lmao

[onyx lava]

Black forest...

[lapis pagoda]

trve

btw, i wish there were achievements for Valheim

steam achievements

[vocal rivet]

There probably will be, come 1.0.

Zero point adding them now.

[lapis pagoda]

true

[noble axle]

will we need to replay the game tho

[nimble moss]

yeah - they could easily be referring to Ashwood here right?

😉

I see the confusion too 🙂

[lapis pagoda]

eh, I see no problem in that

raw dog those bosses with my pack of wolfs ONLY and get achievement? fuck yeah

[noble axle]

lol what? 1.0 is just a terrible excuse

[vocal rivet]

Maybe for some achievements, but I'd say most people would start again when we hit 1.0.

[vocal rivet]

In what conceivable way?

[onyx lava]

Yeah the gaming being done is the "WORST" excuse, what rock did you come from?

[lapis pagoda]

btw what version is now? 0.7? 0.8?

[noble axle]

its better to add achievements now

[noble axle]

gaming being done does not equal 1.0

[onyx lava]

I rather them bug fix and add features

[gray sand]

Do you understand the concept of Early Access titles?

[lapis pagoda]

imagine just pinging developers and asking for it

[nimble moss]

0.219.16

[vocal rivet]

Of course it isn't. There's no point adding achievements until we know what the game IS.

[noble axle]

we do know what the game is? we've known for years?

[vocal rivet]

Please don't ping the devs.

[onyx lava]

And how many times have they added more stuff???

[vocal rivet]

I know NOTHING about Deep North, do you?

[noble axle]

they will continue to add things even after 1.0, maybe not major things like a new biome, but they will add stuff

[azure yacht]

It literally does

[nimble moss]

they've said they wont be adding stuff - only bug fixes

[onyx lava]

1.0 litterally means they completed what they wanted to do with the original design of ther game, anything AFTER is not 'more complete'

[azure yacht]

Contrary to the literally explicit statements about only bugfixing being done after release

[vocal rivet]

No they won't. They're only doing bug fies after 1.0

[nimble moss]

Smiffe confirms it yesterday: #valheim-public-test message

[noble axle]

well the games still being updated then, it says I have no access

[azure yacht]

But not with new content. Which is what you said

[vocal rivet]

Only bug fixes, maybe the odd optimisation path.

[onyx lava]

Achievement get "you have patched the game to 1.0.1!"

[nimble moss]

" the game will not continue to get content updates after 1.0"

[cosmic igloo]

that comment should be pinned, gets brought up sometimes

[onyx lava]

man makes no senses

Achievements for a game where you have 650+ hours in it is just icing on the cake to say i have done it, but i dont even want to see an achieve until i know WHAT I CAN achieve 🙂

[regal spoke]

So done done then

[nimble moss]

And I respect that. They released early access. They sold a gzillion copies, good on them. They have a plan/vision, they complete vision, game done.

So many early access games fizzle out. Valheim is a polished art - it can be "done".

[azure yacht]

And the trend of developing the same game for eternity needs to die asap

[nimble moss]

7D2D was in early access for.... 12 years or something? lol...

[regal spoke]

No contest. Just hadn't heard that fact

[onyx lava]

Cube world anyone

[lapis pagoda]

I hope Valheim will not be like project zomboid, cuz HELL NAH

[onyx lava]

I love PZ!

[azure yacht]

It's 10000 better to use the knowledge you gained from the previous game into developing a whole new project rather than milking the same game forever

[lapis pagoda]

I love too, but damn... So many years and they werent even fully released, they were early acces, and it IS early access

[onyx lava]

Great I dont mind if it takes anouther 30 years I enjoy it for the fact that it even exists, i am happy with what i have not with what i wish i had

[lapis pagoda]

Only now i realize that i never used bigger ship than karve... How many more ships are there? two?

[light moat]

I would be really upset if 1.0 took 30 years 😅

[noble axle]

Star Citizen is a major game past oNe PoInT o and its still getting new updates constantly, and the game is still considered to be unfinished

[nimble moss]

yes

[noble axle]

1.0 does NOT equal finished game

[onyx lava]

Not this again

[azure yacht]

it does for this game

[cobalt canyon]

🤦‍♂️

[nimble moss]

It equals finished "content".

Bug fixes will continue

Confirmed by Valheim team themselves. Nothing further to argue about.

[cobalt canyon]

(from Iron gate anyways, who knows what the modding community will come up with)

[nimble moss]

yes - modding will continue until we have Lazor Dinos fighting Mech warriors in Valheim.

[onyx lava]

Rej, if Valheim 2 came out tomorrow and it was a pristine game with no bugs and they never patched it ever are you going to then say 1.0 was not a finished game?

[gray sand]

Valheim 1 is already a pristine game with no bugs 😏

[shy marlin]

there are no bugs in valheim

[gray sand]

Only accidental scale expressions.

[onyx lava]

Wow i never said it wasnt but My argument was 1.0 status

[nimble moss]

There literally are.

...Seekers?

<I'll see myself out>

[nocturne wolf]

So being unable to move while holding secondary attack with a controller is a feature

[cobalt canyon]

Laser might be easy - just import Yag's fire beam

[shy marlin]

get out

[nimble moss]

hahahaha - omg... your giving me ideas already

[gray sand]

🚪 👈

[lapis pagoda]

cant wait to ride over final boss of the game while driving on my Toyota

[cobalt canyon]

We have wheels....

[nimble moss]

For it to be a meme - has to be a Cybertruck at the moment right?

[shy marlin]

ugh i hate cybertrucks

[onyx lava]

I love what you do for me toy boata!

[onyx lava]

We do, carts!

[lapis pagoda]

eh,im kinda neutral

[light moat]

There are no bugs in Ba Sing Se! 😃

[shy marlin]

i live in snowy conditions, and i can always count on seeing a cybertruck in the ditch on my drive to and from college

[gray sand]

Finally, I truck that even Ford owners can make fun of 😄

[onyx lava]

And all ICE only makers have a unified enemy in the realm of trucks muaha...

oh he beat me to it... lol

How common is it for swamps to NOT have surtling fires? multiple games now i just gave up looking in swamp and went to a forest

[cobalt canyon]

I figure maybe half as common as crypts

lil less

[onyx lava]

Also is there any word on QoL for not breaking wrist muscles on farming? 200+ clicks every now and then is getting very tireseom

[cobalt canyon]

Dunno. There're a few mods that address that problem though...

[onyx lava]

I know im trying to do full vanilla but planting alone is making me want to just get that mod

[nocturne wolf]

We got the scythe recently for faster harvesting

[onyx lava]

Yeah im talking planting

[nocturne wolf]

How many people are you planting for? Do you really need the amount of crops you’re planting?

If you’re in multiplayer, make more cultivators and plant together

[onyx lava]

I make 200 carrots etc at a time then when used up go again but i also go through biomes pretty quick

so then its 200 turnips, then onions etc

[nocturne wolf]

Maybe it would be easier if you had a smaller farm but harvested it a little more often?

[onyx lava]

Yes but then i have to balance seed to harvest ratio, easier to just bulk seed to 200+

but i could plant less seeds to make food

[nimble moss]

I wish the planet everything mod feature that lets you plant 2x2, 6x6 etc was in the base game (just that one part).

Could be balanced by the level of the cultivator unlocking next 2x2, 3x3, 4x4 option etc.

[onyx lava]

agreed

Because vikings had twin and sticks (they had BOATS) not hard to make a grid for planting

hmm first swamp i visited and found itch already

[light moat]

With the farming skill, there’s even less of a need for super large farms 🙂 you get more crops on average now, so the amount of clicking is reduced a little. Cooking skill also affects this indirectly.

[onyx lava]

Wait there is a farming and cooking skill now

[light moat]

Yep, they’re pretty neat 👀

[onyx lava]

epic

I died to a 1 star draugr bowman while typing that and i got a smile on my face

[pearl drift]

https://tenor.com/view/nickelodeon-olmec-legends-kirk-fogg-hidden-temple-gif-26556087

[proper sundial]

1 star draugr killed my 2 star asksiskv I was looking for 5 nights. I tried to avenge this but got oneshot as well

[pearl drift]

now i want to attach multipy carts together. Valheim Trucking!

[onyx lava]

Have a lox pull em now we have the Lox Trucking Company

[proper sundial]

am I imagining things or are friendly tamed animals attracted to working noises like cats are attracted to keyboards? they keep harassing me 😄

[onyx lava]

Could ask a dev I think its the 'whats that noise' syndrom every thing on the planet with ears seems to do

[sinful fulcrum]

Bruh what

[onyx lava]

Also Why i make 3 walls, outide defense, between that and 2nd farm area and paddocks, 2nd wall, between 2nd and first is important animals and farms, then inside last wall is workshops etc

[onyx lava]

Yeah i didnt want to comment on that one

[sinful fulcrum]

How? An askvin star 2 would just move a foot and that draugr dies like a greydwarf

[proper sundial]

i try to digg but my animals are all storming my location like magnets

oh sorry. wrong reply. No idea. somehow one star dverk killed a 2 star askvin

[sinful fulcrum]

They seeking new places to be

I put my chickens in a hen house and every time I open the door they wanna go outside

[proper sundial]

those asksvin sometiems act weird and wildly run circles instead of fight. maybe thats how it got murdered

[onyx lava]

ROFL Greydwarves comin at me for choppin tree's all 3 of em die as the tree falls on em

[tidal nest]

what food should i eat with a mage build?

[shy marlin]

2 eitr food 1 stamina is pretty good

can also run 2 eitr 1 feast (mistlands or ashlands feast) too

[plush umbra]

hey

[onyx lava]

Hey baby, i wanna know.... if youll be my girl

[pliant hatch]

Straw.

[tidal nest]

ty

[onyx lava]

Hay

[sour furnace]

My last playthrough I played with 1,5 resource rates and 'easy' death penalty. Y'all know if I would have fun jacking up raid rates?

[tiny tiger]

Depends on how you’ve found raids so far, if you enjoy them when you get them and would like more by all means go for it

[sour furnace]

they were fun, but i never got the yagluth and queen raids, and now i'm thinking i maybe missed out on some others

[tiny tiger]

Yeah I think it would help if the devs implemented something where you get at least one of reach raid before they are disabled

I know this playthrough I’ve missed a lot of potential raids, I keep getting surtling and hildirs quest raids the most

[sour furnace]

andi got 5 blob raids. IN A ROW

10 min into a run? fighting trolls with a stone axe? i may not be scales, but i've been dodge-rolling for the past 10 min and i sure as hell feel like him

annnnnndddddd there goes my pride#screenshots message

[sour furnace]

WHAT'S WRONG WITH ME?????????? it's day 3 and i have 20 finewood, 4 surtling cores, and 10 troll leather, but i'm still homeless.

i promised myself i would go slower.....

[chrome blaze]

damn bro talking to himself again 😭 🙏🏼

[sour furnace]

🙏 this may as well be a diary

[obsidian pasture]

@vocal rivet when is this deep north update dropping

[vocal rivet]

How should I know? Why are you pinging me at 5:30am?

[obsidian pasture]

You responded

im itchin to play derek and you got the inside scoop

[vocal rivet]

I don't, I really don't. Even the devs have no idea when Deep North will drop.

[obsidian pasture]

thanks derek, you holdin ts down fr

[compact basin]

fr 🙏

[vocal rivet]

Just don't ping me again when I'm not already in the conversation.

[obsidian pasture]

Derek it is extremely rude to ping once the conversation has come to an end

[vocal rivet]

Oh, what horrendous irony.

[compact basin]

goomba chill 🙏

[obsidian pasture]

my b jojo

[orchid tendon]

hi

[marsh plover]

How do you find more Mistlands dungeons? Just scour every inch of it?
Also, are there more dungeons on the landmass with Queen's citadel? I noticed this is true for Bonemass.

[vocal rivet]

Just RNG.

[nimble moss]

There are no more dunegons on the landmasses of any boss - its not a related thing - other than they might have similar properties on the procedural generation allowing more - but its not a specific thing

If you want to cheese it slightly - you can do "/printseeds" in chat (not devcommand) and any close dunegons will be marked

[lunar sapphire]

[near furnace]

Don't think so since its not an official item people can acquire

[nimble moss]

Fair enough. Understood.

[pliant radish]

holy crap I have no idea if this was intentional but this is the first time I've seen VLDL mentioned in any capacity outside of youtube

[near furnace]

outside of youtube?

https://tenor.com/view/peasant-models-whatsthisthen-thevldlsquad-pose-gif-19944186

[pliant radish]

The flashbacks

VLDL is hilarious and despite them being rather large I've just never heard anybody mention them

[near furnace]

O.o

shame

[pliant radish]

Also are you just lurking the chat, I didn't even ping

[near furnace]

I rather enjoy having conversations with our community

even outside my workhours 😅

[pliant radish]

fun game

[near furnace]

indeed

[golden granite]

worth spending the iron to go from level 3 iron pickaxe to level 4? what did you guys do

[forest hinge]

depends how much i plan on building with stone tbh, usually 3 is where i stop

[gray sand]

I always max upgrade my gear.

[plucky rampart]

random question but, im trying to get into the swamp (i dont have iron yet) whats the best weapons/armour i can bring? i have a good source of bronze and other materials

[merry pebble]

Mace will be great there 🙂 as for armor i use troll but if you already have bronze then you can ofcourse use that

[plucky rampart]

ok!! thanks u!!!

[near furnace]

most weapons are fine to use

but a bronze bucklare is essential IMHO

[merry pebble]

Indeed, parrying is amazing 🙂

[cosmic igloo]

atgeir. the special attack stuns everything around you

[coarse harbor]

haven't played in a while, does game have crafting from containers now or extra slots for equipment?

[tacit crystal]

No, those are mod options however.

[lunar sapphire]

Smiffe lives here

much like myself

[near furnace]

nope.
And will never be added either honestly

[coarse harbor]

yes, I use it all the time, was hoping they put it in the game tho

[tacit crystal]

Well, Smiffe just stated above that they won't add such features in game.

[near furnace]

here comes Rianu with "smiffe has been wrong before" 😉

[azure yacht]

Something I have noticed about crafting from containers (in other games) and being able to store everything to nearby chests is how irrelevant it is to organize everything.

Why putting any effort into dedicating storage to specific items/types if you craft from any chests within distance and you don't need to walk to every chest to store what you want?

I noticed this in grounded

[near furnace]

just use cheats and mods that give you infinite inventory slots and remove all and any weight from items. store everything in your inventory

[azure yacht]

Several chests close to each other and i have bug materials next to rocks, wood, and such

[near furnace]

and then play like Enshrouded where a base is almost completly useless

[azure yacht]

Why is it?

[near furnace]

no raids

nothing will attack your base

[azure yacht]

For some reason I was thinking that was the case

[near furnace]

the game also allows you to dig tunnels

but it also resets when you logout

so they "cheat" that feature in my opinion

[plush umbra]

Hey

[azure yacht]

The terrain resets when logout?

[near furnace]

it use to

haven't looked at it since I saw the exploit videos

[azure yacht]

What were the exploits?

[near furnace]

just funny youtuber having fun with it 😄

but he was quite upset it resets on relogging

[tacit crystal]

Huh, that sounds disappointing tbh.

[azure yacht]

Let's game it out?

OH.

I remember now. I did watch that video

[near furnace]

yeah Josh is great with just going mad with the things in games

[lapis pagoda]

kys

MODS!!! GET HIM BANNED!!!

damn, mods are quick here

[near furnace]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1202174832729661470/1305953013269266483/image0.gif

[sinful fulcrum]

That only happens if the terrain doesn’t have a bonfire

But yes, it is a “cheaty” way to farm materials

I loved enshrouded but damn Valheim is just valheim

My love for it

[near furnace]

I don't like to compare games when it's my own game 😄

[sinful fulcrum]

I just hope that if I die I go to valheim

[near furnace]

but yes. some games just fall short when you got thousands of hours in one game

and then you try new games and they don't try to understand what makes valheim, valheim. and they just try to mimic

[paper dust]

guys what's the ghost? when im close with him he is disappear

[proper sundial]

same

[sinful fulcrum]

That’s Odin just gear checking you

[shy marlin]

Yea I don't think they work tbh, I also tried for 30 minutes and couldn't get anything to work

[thorny sonnet]

do you know who makes Valheim SFX ? it's really great

[azure yacht]

#screenshots message

[lapis pagoda]

Hey guys, if i leave my world after dying does my tombstomb dissapears?

cuz, i died literally half the world away from my main spawn, and i want to cheat to get there, but i need to leave valheim to activate devcommands

[nocturne wolf]

If you leave immediately after dying it may not save, otherwise it will never despawn.

[pliant hatch]

Unless you haven't set the "-console" to your .exe in your steam file, you don't need to leave Valheim to activate the dev commands. Can do that while you're still in your game.

[lapis pagoda]

huh? Seriously?

[pliant hatch]

yup.

[lapis pagoda]

so i dont hjave to leave the game? Aight let me try that

[pliant hatch]

You can activate debugmode while you're in the game as well.

[lapis pagoda]

So... How?

[pliant hatch]

Have you set it to activate the console?

[lapis pagoda]

Nope

[pliant hatch]

OK, to do that you do have to leave Valheim.

[lapis pagoda]

shit

aight, but still, i saved my world, does that mean my items will not despawn, right?

I didnt leave immidiately after death

[pliant hatch]

Aye, your items / tombstone will still be there.

[lapis pagoda]

aight, i hope so, cuz im still mad that some random ass draugr village spawned where i was walking

[pliant hatch]

Just wait until you get into Ashlands.
Last night I watched a streamer having a Morgen spawn on top of her.......

[lapis pagoda]

Hold on, devcommands dont work

"[Error : Unity Log] TypeLoadException: Failure has occurred while loading a type."

This game just straight up ruins fun at this point

[pliant hatch]

Did you check somewhere how to apply the option to even use the console?

If not, start by reading this:

https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Developer_console

[lapis pagoda]

yeah? I put -console in launch options of the game

now its just errors, devcommands command doesnt work

its totally because of mods i can assume, but holy shit i just cant each turn to see what mod causes this

[pliant hatch]

Well, you can check in https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1202550198174486599 or in https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1202934289898151966 if there are people having similar issues with the mods you use.

Might make it easier to disable the right mod to solve the problems.

[sour furnace]

i'm on my 3rd playthrough, and i really,really,really hate the swamps. are there any good options to skip and upgrade my gear beforehand?

[granite bronze]

If you can find a Leviathan, the Abyssal Razor crafted from its drops is the swamp-tier dagger

[lapis pagoda]

Thanks God, so i just downloaded an mod that allows you to fly on valkyrie and spawn her, so i used it to fly back to my death place, still i have no idea why devcommands didnt work

[granite bronze]

You can also go into the Mountain biome early, staying warm with excessive amounts of fires, to get some of that gear early on. A Stagbreaker can be used to locate hidden ore deposits

[keen trench]

wow, at hour 1050 of playing i discovered you can fish while piloting a boat, and fish will automatically hook without pressing rmb, very effective after a tiny bit of practice! this is REALLY fun!

[near furnace]

Oh yes. Click credits in the game to see 😎

[regal spoke]

"You dream of devs in Odin capes"

[golden granite]

I have never fished before, is it worth getting into?

[opaque gyro]

guys can some help me i have problem witch launching valheim

when i launch i see black screen 0 sound

[merry pebble]

Try to wait a minute 🙂

[opaque gyro]

alright i try

[dense lion]

hello i am looking for 2 maybe 3 people to play together i am new to the game i watched some tutorials but i think playing with other people will be much funier

[opaque gyro]

dosent work

[merry pebble]

Hmm, are you using any mods?

[opaque gyro]

no

i now updating windows maybe it will help

[merry pebble]

#1024264966712340510 🙂

[quiet robin]

It's due to an outdated mod. I've seen that before. No easy way to find out which though. (take'em all out, and load up 1 by one until you find it. Slow, tedious, but WILL find what's broke) 🙂

[lapis pagoda]

nah, i just rawdogged this problem with another mod

[quiet robin]

you should still find out which mod needs to be updated though.

[lapis pagoda]

booooriiiing

[quiet robin]

it is, but it's still a good idea to find out. The logs may give you a hint. Checking when they were last updated also a good idea. I'm retired from tech stuff now, but... Having the console work is a good thing to have. 🙂

[regal spoke]

Learning to fix a problem requires wanting to. Nudges need to be standard ops again. We enable when spoon feeding. /End old guy rant -nEQ

[gray sand]

This all sounds very #mods-discussion

[gray sand]

What about sporks? 👀

[regal spoke]

I'm a "yank" it's a fpoon

To go with the frosty 😉

[gray sand]

The little wooden paddle that came with single-serve ice creams. 😊

[regal spoke]

Hewl ya. Oh that goes back. But we can find those still today

[quiet robin]

I haven't seen one of those sundae cups with the wee paddle in years. (full disclosure: haven't looked much either) 😛

[sour furnace]

Is the lingering health Regen mead still ass?

[merry pebble]

Still increases your health regen by 25% 🤷‍♂️

[gray sand]

Considering ass can be good, no.

[sour furnace]

Oh, I read somewhere that it only increases by 1hp/min, was it always 25%?

[gray sand]

It's 25% of your regen from food.
Which means it is usually 1-3 hp/s and gets worse the later in the day you get as your food stats decay.
It also blocks the use of the actually good healing meads.

[shy marlin]

i have a theory

I'm like 90% sure passive hp regen outpaces faders (melee) attacks with some certain buffs

[regal spoke]

Do we have any form of life steal

[gray sand]

Well then go express yourself.

[shy marlin]

doin it rn boss

[gray sand]

This ain't no MOBA 😁

[merry pebble]

Nope

[regal spoke]

Ok

[snow axle]

what's the best berserkir axe?

[gray sand]

Best is subjective.

[shy marlin]

yea fader can't lol

3hp food, bonemass, lingering hp mead

flametal armor + ashen cape and he can't outpace passive hp regen in melee lol

[gray sand]

So Fader's drastically reduced, melee-only damage can be out-regen'd.

[shy marlin]

gonna see if its doable without bonemass

power of the root harnesk 😉

[lapis pagoda]

Woah, Hildir spawned not so far from my next boss

[shy marlin]

31.5 regen ticks is crazy

[gray sand]

How much is the Rested Buff for hp regen?

[shy marlin]

+50%

root harnesk no bonemass fader takes off 5 hp per cycle

[gray sand]

Ah. Running HHH is really.. bleh though.

[shy marlin]

agreed

still goofy a boss can't outpace passive regen imo

[gray sand]

And without lingering you'd still be at 27 per tick.

With the ability to pop actual healing meads.

[shy marlin]

honestly yea might be able to just eat all of his melee attack in SSS too

cause that's 12 hp/t

[gray sand]

Is this on VH? 😏

[shy marlin]

it's on normal, which the devs do their balancing on

[gray sand]

Scale issue.

[shy marlin]

don't think they really care about vh balancing if they did well i won't get into that

[regal spoke]

This all without pots?

[shy marlin]

lingering hp

[shy marlin]

but as discussed here it's prob best to just not use linger hp mead and

[regal spoke]

Lingering stam probably more important on a 3hp diet

[shy marlin]

lingering stam is just important on everything

was just testing if fader could outpace passive regen which he really can't

[regal spoke]

Stam is king

Nice work

[tacit crystal]

I'm in favor of Primal Axes. They look elegant and fast hits can proc immobility effect more usually. Thunder Axes are good against groups when lightning effect procs.

[gray sand]

Lingering Stam is great because it doesn't block the best mead in the game.

[regal spoke]

Best is tasty mead

[gray sand]

Indeed.

[gray sand]

@shy marlin I need a skill expression name for my world 🙂
Because I'm doing a vegetarian food only ruleset 😄

[shy marlin]

Desasdwef

[gray sand]

What does that mean? 👀

[shy marlin]

Slam head on keyboard

How I name my worlds

[gray sand]

That is low scale.
I expect better from you.

[shy marlin]

I’m not creative 😔

[nocturne wolf]

It’s the best way

[merry pebble]

Leaf and let leaf? 🤔

[gray sand]

LeafHeim 👍

[nocturne wolf]

They aren’t characters (no health bar, name etc).

[gray sand]

All of my runs have been called <Name>Heim.

[merry pebble]

My first though was Leaf Garden 😄 but LeafHeim is great

[shy marlin]

No but you should do a no food run, doing it rn and it’s painful but fun

[gray sand]

No.

[shy marlin]

Scale issue

[gray sand]

Yes.

PogHeim was my favorite for the longest time.

[nocturne wolf]

It’s just how the game works. Otherwise you could shoot anything and get skill

Why should they?

[merry pebble]

They have an actual health bar tho 🙂

[gray sand]

Created new character ✅
Logged into test world to give character pants instead of shirt ✅
Time to begin the run proper.

[turbid shale]

birds giving bow XP makes sense to me

[merry pebble]

It would probably not work, birds are basically animated objects, it wouldnt make sense to get xp for shooting them or into other objects like a ground, rock or a tree thats next to you

[gray sand]

Shoutouts to Winter for the best seed I have ever played on.

[gray sand]

Objects?
In object-oriented programming?

Say it ain't so...

[merry pebble]

You know what i mean 😏

Btw what seed is it that Winter gave you? 👀 Now i am curious

[gray sand]

Oh I'm holding back my initial reply, lol.

"Just make all birds give exp."

Ok, but you're missing the part where Unity doesn't know what a bird is. So it isn't that simple.

[merry pebble]

Thats the thing, game doesent count it as a "creature" but as an "item/object" that it gives movement to, if i understand it correctly. So its basically the same as hitting beehive or a bush

Well bows dont shoot in flat trajectories...

[nocturne wolf]

It would absolutely be possible to make birds give xp, but birds are a completely different kind of object to a deer or boar. Why should birds give xp but not creature spawners, for example?

[gray sand]

Go learn literally anything about game dev before declaring how simple things are, please.

You can have an opinion about anything, that is the nature of opinions.
But you're classifying it as "simple" without understanding enough to actually make such a claim.

[vocal rivet]

Nor do birds.

[regal spoke]

Destroying spawners should as well but they dont

[paper roost]

they just dont, get over with it 😄

you can do it with the knife

club is one of the slower weapons, while knife is the fastest

[nocturne wolf]

If you time a jump attack properly the club should work just as well

[gray sand]

Am I the only one who punches trees until they can make Flint Axe because I refuse to make the Stone Axe? 😄

[nocturne wolf]

I do it too sometimes

[gray sand]

Oh I just realized the amount of "free" coal I will get this run because I can't eat meat. 👀

[tacit crystal]

Actually one type of bird gives xp when hit: ||hens/chicken||

[onyx lava]

Whats up Valheimians

[onyx lava]

Did someone Say Bird Flu?

[tacit crystal]

Nah, there was a conversation about why birds (gulls/crows) don't give xp when hit.

[onyx lava]

Gotcha

[raven salmon]

If there is stone through your Copper vein, will it prevent collapsing?

[onyx lava]

A breakable stone? yes

but NOT if that stone is floating as well

[merry pebble]

Anything that connects to ground will provide support for it 🙂

[raven salmon]

Ah, that's what i wanted to hear 😄

[onyx lava]

Ok 400 iron bars should hold me for a while

time to find bonemass

[merry pebble]

13 and 1/3 stacks, decent ammount 🙂

[onyx lava]

Yeah I got lucky my 2nd crypt had a dozen chests

each had atletast 20 iron in it nevermind the muck

[merry pebble]

That is some luck 👀

#screenshots message @solar crag Oh thats nice 😄 whats the seed if i may?

Ty 😄

[fiery jacinth]

hello, fellow vikings

[onyx lava]

Helllooo!!

And the walls kept tumbling down in the city that we loved, grey clouds rolled over the hills bringing darkness from above... sounds like Ashlands raid 😛

Just heard Pompeii on spotify and thought of ashlands when they raid my castle

[faint inlet]

finally beat the Queen last night... favourite boss so far, love this game

[onyx lava]

Hells yeah broski thats what its about

[paper roost]

i just probably made the biggest mistake in valheim ever- started to make a house out of the charred fortress 😄

[onyx lava]

Naw, I have 3 saves with fortress remade into castles

[merry pebble]

Why would it be a mistake? 😄

[paper roost]

well, i usually live in houses after something, like bf greydwarf stone house etc, its sooo huge!

[merry pebble]

So this still fits the bill then 😄

[paper roost]

yeah, "only" different its like 20x bigger

[merry pebble]

Heh, lots of space for everything then xD

[paper roost]

it supposed to be celebration after clearing it with flesh rippers, now it feels like torture 😄

[regal spoke]

Some of the more intact Ashland's ruins would be, fun to rework into a useful structure

[paper roost]

yes, but you know how it is in ashland, 1 blob and half of the structure is gone

[regal spoke]

I know. Precisely why I haven't already

[shy widget]

is there a Valheim LFG or am i over looking it?

[merry pebble]

#1024264966712340510 🙂

2 channels down

[shy widget]

THANK YOU!

[tacit crystal]

Nice, she is one of my favorites too!

[noble axle]

I don't rlly see the hype around the queen fight personally

[fathom trench]

hate that boss

[merry pebble]

I see people disliking it more often than not, but i personally do like it 🙂 (even tho it can be quite long)

[noble axle]

Fader is where it's at

best fight in the game 🙂

[fathom trench]

havent fought that boy yet

[tacit crystal]

Just wait for it, it's very cool one too, probably my favorite. Don't look any spoilers of that fight.

[fathom trench]

what weapons should i use and is he weak to anything

im in the ashlands now

[noble axle]

Any wep works I believe

[merry pebble]

Nope, no weaknesses

[tacit crystal]

Resistant to ||pierce||.

[fathom trench]

is it cheating to use a world generator on my seed to find a good biome to make a base

[tacit crystal]

It is a solo game, play as you like.

[gray sand]

Is it cheating? Yes.
Does anyone care if you cheat in your own world? No.

[nocturne wolf]

Berserkir axes work well. Iolite and jade weapons are both really useful against him.

[limpid vigil]

Is there a way to find out my coordinates I am hopelessely lost and cant find where the world generator site wants me to go

[noble axle]

lmao why are so many enemies resistant to that, it literally makes || spears and Atgeir useless for melee ||

[fathom trench]

no but like will it make my game less fun

if i use seed finder

[nocturne wolf]

Even against a resistance, these weapons can still be useful

[gray sand]

Because bows are OP AF and it stops everything from turning into a sniperfest.

[merry pebble]

A tiny bit, you will miss on the exploration a little

[noble axle]

Then there could be a resistance to arrows

[gray sand]

You are the sole person who can answer this.

[nocturne wolf]

It would be easier to just reduce the damage of bows
Or make bow skill less broken

[noble axle]

I wanna use a spear and it's useless 95% of the time

[fathom trench]

spears are so bad

[gray sand]

Spears are amazing.

[noble axle]

Exactly because of resistance

They are only good early game bc everything is weak and has no hp

[fathom trench]

atgeirs are really useful though way more than spears

[tacit crystal]

Bad against pierce resistant bosses true, but otherwise really good weapons.

[gray sand]

Spears are good at all stages of the game.

[tacit crystal]

Throwing is very useful trait of it.

[noble axle]

Yea but spears are useless in Ashlands which is the problem, even the gemstone versions

[gray sand]

That is just outright false.

[fathom trench]

im a blunt damage guy

[noble axle]

I used a mage hybrid build for a while with the blood spear and it took a while to kill things even with max spear lvl

[gray sand]

"with the blood spear" <- Problem located.

[noble axle]

I tried the lightning one and it wasn't that much better

[tacit crystal]

Charred are resistant true, but Asksvin, Voltures, Valkyries aren't. And Morgen resist all physical damage types anyway.

[gray sand]

Lightning one is indeed much better.

Highest attack speed in the game = constant lightning chain procs.

[tacit crystal]

I'd say Storm Splitnir is my top 5 Ashlands melee weapons.

[fathom trench]

im telling you guys blunt damage is king

[noble axle]

I'd rather use a himmanfl then a lightning spear

[tacit crystal]

Blunt is great, Klossen especially.

[gray sand]

If you, personally, dislike spears that is fine.
But it does not make them a bad weapon or generally useless or any of the other classifications you have given them,.

[fathom trench]

if you use clubs in black forest and swamp it makes things so easy, plus its generally good in every biome especially the frostner

[noble axle]

When almost every mob with lots of hp is resistant to pierce,they do suck

[gray sand]

My turn: Frostner is a terrible weapon.

[fathom trench]

ok this is absurd

[tacit crystal]

Here we go again.

[gray sand]

So is thinking spears are terrible 😄

[fathom trench]

im just not gonna say anything

[merry pebble]

This is also just outright false 😉 (and i say that even while i also dont like it xD)

[tacit crystal]

Terrible is a point of view of an individual.

[noble axle]

frostner has 1 use, reto. When you don't have the proper weapons or are restricted in weapon choice

until I found out about himmanfl

[gray sand]

That's my point.
Either I can honestly say that Frostner is a terrible weapon and you have to accept it.
Or we can both agree that Frostner and Spears are both good weapons 😄

[merry pebble]

I can agree to taht 🙂 while i personally dont like much of either i acknowledge that they are indeed usefull

[fathom trench]

i got max upgraded frostner in the ashlands and im still using it as my main weapon, it doesnt feel worse than ashlands weapons at all

[merry pebble]

At that point mistwalker is the better choice 🙂 but ofcourse there is nothing wrong with using it if you have clubs on high level and swords are low

[tacit crystal]

Smaller damage as it's mountain tier weapon but very useful for the knockback and slow effect of frost.

[fathom trench]

this guy gets it

[tacit crystal]

Especially against slower Warriors.

[merry pebble]

• lower stamina usage 🙂

[gray sand]

Less damage? No, not possible.
As that is the entire reason spears suck absolute ass and should never be used ever.
😏

So if Frostner does less damage it too must also be ass. 😏

[tacit crystal]

Quite like how all silver weapons are useful in Ashlands due to spirit damage being useful there.

[fathom trench]

no the point is that pierce damage is the damage that has the most resistances

[gray sand]

The point made was that spears suck.
Which they do not.
So...

[fathom trench]

i disagree

[noble axle]

They do whenever something is resistant to them

before swamp spears are good

[gray sand]

See previous:

If you, personally, dislike spears that is fine.
But it does not make them a bad weapon or generally useless or any of the other classifications you have given them.

[fathom trench]

the hitboxes on spears also make me want to quit

[gray sand]

Also, I will then just disagree with every positive thing you can think to say about Frostner 😄

[fathom trench]

slight terrain and i can never hit an enemy

[gray sand]

Scale issue.

[near furnace]

Frostner is the best damn weapon in the game 😄

[noble axle]

scale issue fr fr

[gray sand]

This is objectively untrue 🙂

[near furnace]

Sevrahn-issue to be honest 😄

[fathom trench]

why are you making this seem like you and me have beef? i thought you said we have different opinions

[nocturne wolf]

Smiffe hammer*

[noble axle]

Oh no doubt but real life is different bc they didn't have piece resistant armor 😉

[fathom trench]

i dont use them anymore

[nocturne wolf]

That’s not how weapons work. Spears can only be held with one hand.

[near furnace]

we don't talk about my personal hammer 😅

[merry pebble]

Well more because it was easy to use and cheap to manufacture 😉

[fathom trench]

lol this guy is correct

[gray sand]

In the world of warriors/hunters -> almost every weapon is easy to use, it's just a matter of learning and practiced repetition.

[tacit crystal]

Every weapon is good in right hands and uses.

[nocturne wolf]

Tree roots are everywhere but nobody ever thought of making a harnesk out of them

[fathom trench]

guys if you want to fly through the game until the ashlands spend a huge amount of time getting iron, i got like 5 chests filled with iron still and i can do so much with it

[gray sand]

Something about foot-blades something something 😄

[merry pebble]

Well it was one of the things that actually had the reach to do that kinda safely 😄

[merry pebble]

Cough, nunchucks, cough...

[gray sand]

Shorthand way to spell "Bruce Lee's Ping Pong Paddle"

[merry pebble]

Yeah, that was totaly awesome what he could do with them, but they still stand as one of the most ineffective weapons ever xD

[gray sand]

True.

About as bad as the flail.
That people seem to think was wayyyy more widely used than it was because of medeival fantasy.

[merry pebble]

Well comparing those two, i would choose flail every day 😄

[gray sand]

Spiky ball on chain sounds cool until you remember the 3rd law of motion 😄

Or where the ball has to go if your opponent, you know, ducks 😄

[near furnace]

flail?

[gray sand]

Spiky ball on chain
Usually attached to stick.

[merry pebble]

Depending on how it was made and what were proportions of handle and chain it was actually not THAT dangerous to the user 😄 but normal spiky mace would still be safer

[gray sand]

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=medieval+flail&qpvt=medieval+flail&form=IGRE&first=1

[merry pebble]

But those with more than one ball... those are just stupid

[tacit crystal]

They added some cool factor to them.

[gray sand]

Spear still understandably such a staple.
Because can be melee, can be thrown.
And in very poor scenarios you didn't even need metal. Just sharpen the end of a stick and boom, done.

[near furnace]

I ment. what flail in valheim?
AFAIK. we don't have one of them in the game

[merry pebble]

Oh, yeh, this is not general xD sorry

[gray sand]

We don't have nunchuks either?
Which is what I was replying to.

[gray sand]

Every channel Smiffe is in counts as general 😏

[near furnace]

talking weapons in valheim isn't derailing chat tho

[merry pebble]

Eh, i started this with mentioning nunchaks, and that isnt part of valheim so i was derailing 😄

[brisk herald]

best weapon is torch

[onyx lava]

FISTS or nothing

[merry pebble]

Well, if you are using fists then you have nothing indeed 😄

[gray sand]

I do hope DN bring another fists weapon.

[tacit crystal]

Probably, if they planned to bring all weapon types in DN.

[merry pebble]

I would love that

[tacit crystal]

But some other earlier/mid game fists would be great too.

[nocturne wolf]

Slash damage fist weapon crafted with two neck trophies
I’m sure you can guess how it may look

[onyx lava]

I read a while ago they in this chat (like 4-5 days ago) that they said they were putting all weapons in DN? might be able to search it with regex

[tacit crystal]

Yeah that's what I also said just.

Another battleaxe.

[merry pebble]

Nothing that would be confirmed by devs afaik, most likely just players speculating like we do now 🙂

[onyx lava]

okies 🙂

[proper kindle]

I just found a Yagluth vegvesir in the very first tiny Plain I discovered. Very nice.

[tacit crystal]

Grats! Let's hope that RNG doesn't bite back later.

[severe yarrow]

yoo im searching for a party ive played 200h alreday and im at ashlands
and i can start from anywhere

[snow flicker]

Thundering axes capable of being upgraded or not as of now?

[merry pebble]

Only to lvl2

[snow flicker]

the durability is horrid on them

[snow flicker]

What material do I need for this?

[merry pebble]

Look in #1024264966712340510 😄

[merry pebble]

Flametal and iolite

[snow flicker]

asking for the upgrade for the forge

[tacit crystal]

Another upgrade requires bloodstone.

[snow flicker]

thank you

[frozen fable]

is anyone experiencing a bug where you buy something at the trader and it buys it twice?

or i wonder if i just clicked twice, just trying to see if that is my imagination or not

i bought two dverger circlets and two fishing rods, so

[nocturne wolf]

You can upgrade flametal weapons to level 3 with more durability, you don’t need to turn them all into gemstone weapons.

[merry pebble]

Might be mouse button clicking twice on its own?

[frozen fable]

weird

i think i will see if i can duplicate that by spawning coins and buying with one click to see if that happens again

[snow flicker]

i enjoy the thundering, the durability is just bad on them

[onyx lava]

Unlimited Black Iron... Tar pit on the edge of a large Camp in plains

[frozen fable]

hmmm only bought one that time, guess it may have just been me

[merry pebble]

Tbh i dont usually have any problems with durability 🤔 i am at the base so often i can just repair whenever

[merry pebble]

Soooo... One village worth of blackmetal...

[snow flicker]

they lose the durability quickly in the ashlands, seems each axe individually takes some durability off which is draining it quicker. Might bring 2 sets of axes 😂

[onyx lava]

They dont spawn randomly? and the tar guys fight em

[merry pebble]

They dont respawn in villages, no, but growths do fight them and they do respawn at tar pits

[onyx lava]

awe ok

silly question but is block after armor mitigation or before

[merry pebble]

Eeeeeh... @gray sand might know? He made a spreadsheet about blocking. Blocking mechanics are just beyond what i can/am willing to comprohend

[snow flicker]

I wish magic staffs had a middle mouse/secondary attack.
would be cool to use the staff of embers slam aoe attack lol

[gray sand]

Blocking sheet is pinned in this channel and has a thoroughly explained READ ME page.

[shy marlin]

Imagine reading the pins

[onyx lava]

I only read pins when I am told to read pins, as most the time in 99% of discord channel is troubleshooting of issues not how things in the game work

[merry pebble]

Well, i can wholeheartedly recommend to read the bottom of the pinned messages 😄 quite a few useful things there

[onyx lava]

Ty will do

[sinful fulcrum]

fists are best

we need boulder fist weapons

although idk what kind of fist weapons vikings used

[tacit crystal]

Some kind of gauntlet/knuckle type fist weapons? Although there could be potential materials for another claw weapons, like ||mandibles of seeker soldiers|| or ||bonemaw teeth||.

[sullen fossil]

what is the most efficient way to run silver back to your ship, if the run is about a real minute away? and i have like over 400 silver to transport? i dont have access to parts for a cart either so that sucks lol

[onyx lava]

Cart

[sullen fossil]

the terrain is not cart friendlyy, still recommend?

[onyx lava]

.. i made the sacrafice for moder then went in a portal, came out she never spawned

[merry pebble]

Yep, just throw it down the mountain 🙂

[winged dune]

My friends didnt want to listen to me (the one who wanted to brew potions, get better arrows, armor and food. And also did research) before we went for bonemass and were surprised when we did almost no damage and we got one hit.

[sullen fossil]

it wont break doing that? lmao

[onyx lava]

The cart will the iron wont

and if it does you remake it

[merry pebble]

You can also use boat 😄

[sullen fossil]

hmm

trying to get over 400 silver from a mountain thru the black forest and then to my longship will be long, but worth it for my server

[onyx lava]

You would have half of it moved by now if you ahd ran it back and fourth and not chatted about it

[sullen fossil]

well, i was looking for tips lol thats why

[onyx lava]

I dont disagree (missing something obvious) if you have been to plains then you know there are ||rideable|| options

[gray sand]

.#irdeable

[azure yacht]

Yes, because the most powerful playstyle certainly needs a buff

[onyx lava]

Nice moder and Bonemass dead within an hour of each other going well on this speed run

[snow flicker]

Indeed

but I would disagree on most powerful

staff of embers will go crazy during deepnorth age

[azure yacht]

Would be hilarious if enemies are resistant to fire in DN

[nocturne wolf]

Staff of fracturing*
If most enemies don’t have fire resistance, it will be very strong

The total fire damage it deals at level 3 is much more than staff of embers

[azure yacht]

I actually hope they do.

Imagine being so powerful and accustomed to freezing temperatures than even fire cannot so anything

[onyx lava]

Lich King anyone

[gray sand]

I don't understand the tooltip for Fracturing tbh.

[nocturne wolf]

You need patience and focus because it takes forever to kill the ashlands enemies

[gray sand]

Seriously?

[nocturne wolf]

I haven’t used it but most of the damage is fire so I’d guess it isn’t great

[merry pebble]

I think its like that since you spawn lots of low dmg projectiles, so it will take time for them to kill stuff

[gray sand]

It shoots in a straight line. Hits target with full damage.
Not really seeing how that takes focus.

[snow flicker]

only 1 enemy in ashlands actually hurts

everything else isnt that bad and is tolerable, but i usually avoid valkyrie unless i really really have to kill or im in a group

id rather go fist to fist with a morgen then deal with an annoying valkyrie

[tacit crystal]

Valkyrie is really good to clear all the smaller mobs around.

[nocturne wolf]

I love the hitbox on morgen swipes, stone golems need to start taking notes

[slim mirage]

Can 1.0 drop already lol

[tacit crystal]

When it is ready it will.

[slim mirage]

Thats a good one.

[tacit crystal]

Well, anyone here doesn't know when it happens.

[nocturne wolf]

Bog witch released only a few months ago

[shy marlin]

honestly wouldn't expect anything to happen in 2025 so hunker down

[regal spoke]

Trimming a build right now that has a view of Deep North. Gonna be awesome when it's ready.

[tacit crystal]

I also built an outpost building in a small Mistlands island with a view to DN.

[lunar sapphire]

Is your building a hedge?

[gray sand]

Hedges as a buildable when?

[azure yacht]

A true one as well.

[regal spoke]

I went with a sweet bit of mountain that touches the ocean. The whole build works it's way down the hill from under a rock. Fun lil challenge

[tacit crystal]

I wanted a Mistlands outpost to put my portals to different locations in Mistlands there.

[regal spoke]

That would be my go to as well. Love those mist island chains that, sometimes have minimal fog

[pliant hatch]

@regal spoke This what I did so far using the color codes: #screenshots message

[regal spoke]

That's awesome Thorin. Fair play

How much of a pain would it be to, get some more light in the area? Perhaps lights stuffed behind the boxes.

[gray sand]

Translation: How much of an FPS loss would it be to get some more light in the area? 😏

[pliant hatch]

Not all colours work out well, though.

Black Forest was written in black, Sea Food is in Navy Blue and Swamp in a dark brown, but from a distance it shows as black to all of them.

Still working at light sources.

[regal spoke]

That's been my experience as well. Some shades of red and blue show up brighter. Id love a bright orange 🍊 that looks good

[pliant hatch]

Well, since Subject pinned the site where I found the codes, finding some better shade of orange may be possible.

[regal spoke]

Absolutely. Genius for the pin 🤔

[pliant hatch]

I still need to work at the portal area in this game, but once I got that done, I'll post a screenshot and link to it as well.

[regal spoke]

Please do. I have been wrapping my portals in wood stone motif.

[pliant hatch]

The only "problem" I have so far with "biome related food storing" is that there are a few items that show up in two biomes. Making it a bit harder to decide in which biome they belong.
So for convenience, I drop them in the chest of the first biome they appear in.

[regal spoke]

I do biomes and recipes in many regards.

All categorized according to crafting bench

Solid breakdown you're going with though

[pliant hatch]

I'm considering to build a central "storage rack" in my basement from which I can easily access the crafting materials. Each metal and wood type, as well as coal will get its own chest as you need lots of those.
Same for bones, eyes and resin. The pelts and hides can most likely be split over two chests. But things like flint, obsidian, guck, ooze and the like may end up in some chests together as you won't need that much of those after leaving the biome you find it in.

[regal spoke]

Could have a bomb box to break up some of those items.

[pliant hatch]

I haven't made up my mind about how to build and store things, as I lack a few crafting tables in that game.
I will most likely put the artisan table and spinning wheel close to the stone cutter; which is in the center of my main building right now.

So I may even put the storage around it in a square with some openings to walk through.

[regal spoke]

Sounds good

[gray sand]

Just for spice I am playing on controller this run, and it is a very different feeling.

[knotty marten]

How do you deal with a 2 star morgen and how is it balanced?

Or is that kind of the point, none of Ashlands is balanced?

[steady bough]

Help channel is likely best place for this topic, some white knights will jump on you

[gray sand]

Ashlands is balanced.

Morgen is the same as any other enemy, just parry and kill.

[knotty marten]

Parry a 2 star morgen?

[gray sand]

It is very doable.

[pliant hatch]

Or find a safe spot somewhere high and spam the fire ball on it.

[steady bough]

4.8k health seems excessive ill be honest, this game has a very weird powercreep.

[shy marlin]

Fader chillin with 25k hp 😐

[gray sand]

You can 🤣 all you want, the facts of the game don't change.
It is parryable even with 0 blocking skill.

[knotty marten]

4.8k with the damage resistance to all physical and fire dmg.

[cosmic igloo]

wait until it does it's 2 arm swing, when it does it's 2nd swing you jump to it's side and hit

[knotty marten]

With what? I have 134 armor and the flametal shield - it staggered right through a parry.

[cosmic igloo]

or spam vines and run in a circle

lemayo

[gray sand]

Start with understanding how blocking works and that your armor has nothing to do with it.

Specific to parry, Carpace Buckler remains the best shield in the game.

Blocking sheet is pinned in this channel if you want in-depth information.

[nimble moss]

And/or use root harness and serpent shield and just be immune…

[noble axle]

also there is a difference between parry + stagger vs clean parry, because you can even do a clean parry on ||Reto|| with 3 HP foods and a carapace buckler with 100 block skill

[knotty marten]

100 block skill will never occur in a normal playthrough and shouldn't be mentioned imo

[noble axle]

I got it 🤷

[merry pebble]

I can but usually after purposefully leveling it up 🙂

[noble axle]

I got up to 90 just by playing the game then decided to do a block farm to get the last 10 lvls

& it was worth it

[knotty marten]

With what game settings?

[gray sand]

Farming block skill is extremely easy.
You just summon Elder.

[noble axle]

normal, 1.5x loot, portal ores

[nimble moss]

There is also a totally different way to look at it; why bother killing a 2 star Morgan? Just run away. Don’t they also only spawn in caves with 2 star?

Either way; I wouldn’t spend the time fighting it. No point.

[noble axle]

just to know u can do it I guess

[gray sand]

But my Sinews 😭

[noble axle]

I didn't even know morgens can be 2 starred till now

[nimble moss]

From memory it’s only in caves. Is it in a cave?

[tacit crystal]

I've only encountered some 1 star but not 2 star yet.

[merry pebble]

In some ruins they can also have stars 🙂

[shy marlin]

my first encounter with a morgen was a 2 star lol

[tacit crystal]

And I played during PTB too.

[tacit crystal]

Those that come from ground can have stars.

[knotty marten]

So, assuming you mean just blocking Elder to farm the level, that means 40600 blocks.
Found a reddit post about doing this that gives rough numbers of 200+ xp per minute against 2 elders.
40600/200 = 203 minutes.
That's some fun and engaging "balance" for skilling. That's also not playing the game in any normal sense, so most people will not be that level by any stretch.
God help you if you die and lose 5% of the skill.

[tacit crystal]

But afaik as normal spawns they don't get stars.

[merry pebble]

Ah true, i forgot some are just walking around 😄

[gray sand]

Elder block farming has much more to do with his Roots than Elder himself.

[nimble moss]

Anyway. Get root harness and serpent shield; be basically immune. Kill with fires and spears etc.

But meh; I’d just run. Not worth the time.

But doable.

[knotty marten]

That is exactly what the reddit post video and numbers was showing.
This if curious;
https://www.reddit.com/r/valheim/comments/qimqxo/training_block_skill_like_a_boss_or_two/

[noble axle]

just use fenris armor + root harnesk

[gray sand]

So at this point just do what Knot suggests and ignore the thing instead of trying to fight it.

[knotty marten]

Ah yes, ignoring the thing instead of fighting it - must be balanced then, huh?

[noble axle]

scale issue

[shy marlin]

I mean it's an effective strategy in the ashlands

[gray sand]

Why is it always people with green leaves next to their names that talk like this...

[shy marlin]

legit sometimes if u just sprint 15m away from something they just give up

[nimble moss]

Yes? Why does everything need to be easily killable? Balance can mean some things are harder than 90% of people can handle; so run?

[steady bough]

Because they join the server and ask for advice and immediately get hit with hostility and spoken to like dirt from people like you and Derek! hope this helps!

[nimble moss]

If you need that type of “balance” - the devs gave you “easy” mode

[merry pebble]

They are already gone from server it seems

[shy marlin]

unlucky

[tacit crystal]

RNG doing wondorous work.

[gray sand]

If only they could dodge Morgens the way they dodge servers. 😉 😏

[merry pebble]

I still dont get why nobody suggested rolling

[shy marlin]

idk seems kinda obvious imo

[gray sand]

Barney did afaik.

Talked about dodging the double attack and hitting them from the side.

[merry pebble]

Meh, doesend matter now really 😄

[gray sand]

I've been running around for 2 hours trying to find a Burial Mound so I can get a Surtling Core but no dice.

[merry pebble]

Look for very round and not that tall hills with crows 😉

[shy marlin]

well at least u have 3 stam foods 😏

[gray sand]

Honey + Both Berries 😄

[merry pebble]

And when you find some burial chambers you can switch one of the berries to yellow mushrooms 😄

[gray sand]

SIX troll caves.
No burial mounds 😭

[merry pebble]

Then you should have some yellow mushrooms already 🤔 why not use them?

[gray sand]

I always forget they are edible given Boars don't eat them 😄

[merry pebble]

Ah xD

One of my favourite early stam foods 😄

[noble axle]

just parry everything thats not a boss, if u can't thats a scale issue

[merry pebble]

Oh i love parrying 😄 but if i cant or know its most likely not gonna work, if i encounter 2 star troll level monster for example, i just roll and roll

[tacit crown]

Rolling just doesn't feel right

[merry pebble]

So it must feel left... And i always thought i was rolling bit to the side 🤔
||Sorry for horrible joke 😂 couldnt help myself||

[tacit crown]

No I really appreciate such jokes. May odin bless you for that 🙏🙏

[knotty marten]

Sorry - Had to leave and rejoin the server, couldn't navigate to channels normally.
I'll give it a try increasing my health pool so that I can parry them, it sucks to have to cut into stamina so much for it.
Rolling doesn't feel like much of an answer given that it doesn't help you kill them.
Given the fact that I needed loot from the ||charred fortress|| - I couldn't really "just run from the 2 star morgen"

My frustration was the morgen at the time, but admittedly was exaggerated due to being swarmed by 3 warlocks, 6 warriors, 8 archers, and a buttload of warlock summons when cracking into the area - then the morgen being in there was a cherry on top.

That situation is ultimately why I don't really feel like ashlands is balanced - or I don't know how you are meant to deal with infiltrating a ||charred fortress|| - the amount of mobs is ridiculous and dealing with the spawners usually just gets you killed, but if you don't, then nothing you do will matter - you can't just kill them one at a time and kite

[sour furnace]

??? if rolling won't help how will blocking?

[merry pebble]

After parry comes stagger, usually, and that lets you do more dmg

[knotty marten]

Parrying usually leaves a small opening or reprieve from the assault. shrug

[steady bough]

Building up using a hoe is unironically best strat and then layering it with fireballs

[gray sand]

Break the wall of the fortress and everything that tries to walk out of it takes damage from the spikes hanging down.

Bombs are also great AoE if you're not running mage build.

Ashlands was balanced, and then they nerfed it. Now it is easier.

[shy marlin]

I miss ptb ashlands so much 😔

[merry pebble]

It is balanced to be quite hard 🙂 to be a battlefield, it is the penultimate biome after all, however it is quite unfortunate to find 2 star morgen + have lots of other mobs interfering

[steady bough]

Each to their own, I dont like clearing an area to then do a 360 and watch them respawn before my eyes.