valheim-chat

[wintry valve]

at the same time, I dont think its feasible to make realistic sword fencing in games

gotta have a little abstraction.
What I wish that spear had is the ability to poke slightly upward or downward.

Too often was I getting munched on by a wolf and I wasnt able to fight back because of a cliff slope.

[regal spoke]

Or a hook from the side. So many ways to look at potential

[wintry valve]

inb4 "but its a brutal game"

[rotund bay]

for hammers, having it do heavy normal attacks and keep the slam as a secondary wouldve been cooler

[regal spoke]

Yes. Yes it is. Now let me poke from more than over the shoulder

[ebon osprey]

Does anyone know if the bog witch can be generated in an old map, as long as I havent explored many of its possible swamp locations?

[shy marlin]

yes

[wintry valve]

Sorry, im just annoyed because whenever I complain about something I find annoying in this game, its always the same response

[regal spoke]

You're good Vinny. I know what you mean. Yes it's not our place to make the decisions. But speaking honestly shouldn't be gas lit either.

[fading blaze]

who would of thought theres toxic people in a chill viking game lol

[robust delta]

yes

[robust delta]

that would be so awesome

[paper roost]

yes, but than the hammer lovers who knock enemies out with secondary attacks complain 😄

[rotund bay]

we don't really lose out on the slam because it became the secondary, basically just gives more ways to use the big hammer to smash things

[azure yacht]

You do because it would just become mace but bigger.

Uniqueness > repetitiveness

The sledge is meant to be used as a secondary weapon, not a main one

[balmy willow]

i really just want spear to be a directional weapon, the only one

makes it unique, otherwise there's no point in using it over atgeir once you hit bronze age

[gray sand]

No point?

[regal spoke]

I could see atgeir and sledge used as a main for an aggro position

[rotund bay]

spear being throwable still doesn't make it the same as atgeir even with the proposed changes
plus that high poise break on it's spin is quite powerful

[rotund bay]

isn't that what the krom does anyways
sword but bigger

[azure yacht]

Fang spear has better dmg than iron atgeir

[azure yacht]

Yes, and it shouldn't. Another secondary would've been better

[rotund bay]

eh, there's more fun in more options when it comes to weapon choices
and I also would like a secondary move for the staves, and maybe more types of fist weapons later on

[balmy willow]

but in the end, i feel that the atgeir is generally better in anything else

mostly because of the reach and secondary

the spear doesn't really stick out to me at all

[rotund bay]

trying to lock in potential for these weapons sorta nips the bud for that

[fading blaze]

i wish they had mistlands atgeir or ashlands atgeir that was just pierce

[rotund bay]

the spear being great at close while having a mid range attack as an option made it my main weapon for a long time, despite the risk of losing it and the inability to pick it up again because you'll have to rely on auto-pick up and that can pose troubles like accidentally soaking u trash items on the ground to block it's slot in your inventory (looking at you resin and stones)

[royal tendon]

Do staff of the wild roots do more dmg on higher difficulty combat?

[fading blaze]

im gonna say no? leveling it increases the damage

[royal tendon]

Okay i just thought if they count as mobs

[lofty valley]

good afternoon fellow vikings

[rotund bay]

that pretty much what happens when you move to a different tier, that being mountains vs swamp, plus there's no mountains version of atgeir, so they really shouldn't be compared

[gray sand]

No point?

[robust delta]

would you happen to have a secondary in mind for its replacement?

[fading blaze]

i run the heimmanaflr thing which is a lightning atgeir the secondary attack is broken on atgeirs, and then i run the berserker axes and the mistwalker with a shield, and a bow of course

[robust delta]

nice

[shy marlin]

atgeir gang

[regal spoke]

I run spear n shield all the way to Ashland. Then Mistwalker out shines. Note to self: run more swords early game..

[fading blaze]

i used a flint spear with troll armor till plains lol with wolf cape ofc

[azure yacht]

Secondary is useless against moder, in which case fang spear is better, and that's just counting the dmg, not attack speed.

And bosses are the most important fight of the biome

It's also very cheap to craft and upgrade

[azure yacht]

Exactly, if there was, then you would have zero reason to use the fang spear.

You just discovered the reason why weapon gaps exist

[fading blaze]

other than eikthyr i think moder is the easiest boss tho

[azure yacht]

Vertical overhead swing

[gray sand]

Dual-wield Spear when? 😏

[regal spoke]

Bonemass is a gatekeeper

[fading blaze]

this guy gets it ^

[shy marlin]

Sword mainhand knife offhand when

[robust delta]

climbing up mountains spear by spear. odin approves

[gray sand]

Only if holding knife like a dagger.

[regal spoke]

Spear do trip when. Dual spears would be BRUTAL

[opaque sundial]

I can't get past black forest

[fading blaze]

my first time playing i cheesed bonemass not gonna lie cause i didnt know meads existed

[gray sand]

Bonemass is the best spear trainer.

[robust delta]

so like opposite of the two-handed clubs? that's pretty funny i like that

[fallow orchid]

I have a short question. I'm new and should I use Valheim using Vulkan or not?

[robust delta]

what's wrong buster

[fading blaze]

i actually havent even beaten ashlands boss yet, but ive done like 6 play throughs of up too mistlands

[fading blaze]

i dont 🤷‍♂️

[opaque sundial]

Too annoying. Goblins feel like Dark Souls 2 artificial difficulty. Throwing loads of mobs that are poorly designed.

[gray sand]

This is one of those "if you have to ask, then no" questions.
If you don't know enough about what Vulkan is/does, don't click it.

[fallow orchid]

ok thank you

[robust delta]

what is vulkan?

[fading blaze]

its a graphics api

[robust delta]

yeah fair enough. they do like running around strangely

[fading blaze]

wait till they make it to the actual goblins ☠️

[opaque sundial]

For 4-5 of them to be running at you with a shaman in the back, it's almost not worth progressing the game; if mob Ai is this bad in the beginning of the game.

[fading blaze]

brother they are scared of you but they want to protect there forest its not that deep

[opaque sundial]

They're scared of fire, sure. But they're not acting scared throwing rocks.

[robust delta]

darn those anti viking rocks

[opaque sundial]

I don't remember criticizing rocks

[robust delta]

i sure remember those rocks doing critical hits on me 😂

[fading blaze]

i got killed mid air by one before jumping down a hill

[robust delta]

nice. was ur corpse ragdoll just tumbling down

[wintry valve]

There are critical hits in this game?

[regal spoke]

Weren't you just saying you couldn't get past black forest? Imagine if the mobs were coordinated in their attacks

[rotund bay]

you said it already, the fang spear is really cheap to upgrade, and you can still throw it
it's not the same as atgeir

[robust delta]

no. i was just saying how sometimes i get domed by a good shot from a fuling inna 'xaggerated manner

[azure yacht]

Even if there was a silver atgeir or similar, the price would greatly compensate its usefulness vs fang spear

[wintry valve]

The trick with fulings is to get a medieval viking machine gun (probably a mod)

[azure yacht]

Just like bronze atgeir vs bronze spear or iron atgeir vs bark spear

[robust delta]

i hate to say it but that would be a good counter for fulings

[wintry valve]

Its a good counter for many things

[fading blaze]

the best counter for fulings is atgeirs cant change my mind

[azure yacht]

That's frost staff

[robust delta]

best counter is porcupine

[sour furnace]

the best counter for fulings is vomit sniper the ripper at them

[opaque sundial]

I mean, yeah. That's why I brought up DS2. They aren't coordinated. It's just mob tactics.

[robust delta]

not really, but i do love how far that mace sends their ragdoll away if you kill them with a charged attack while they're staggered

you launch greylings it's so hilarious

[wintry valve]

Also I just reached bow skill level 100

many trees died for this thing to be possible

[gray sand]

See, THAT is your machine gun.

[wintry valve]

it works surprisingly bad against fulings

[gray sand]

Frost Arrows go brrrr

[wintry valve]

well yeah sure, if I hit them, any arrows do fine

But its hard to hit some small target running around me

[gray sand]

-# Skill issue.

😛 😏

[wintry valve]

ur a skill issue

[shy marlin]

Skill expression?

😏

[gray sand]

Subject needs to change your name to Scales | Skill Expressionist

[wintry valve]

Nah against fulings I just hit them with with sword

[shy marlin]

i'd be down 🤷‍♂️

[gray sand]

Spears my beloved.

[wintry valve]

except two stars fulings. I dont even approach those things

[rotund bay]

yeet ooze bombs so they die from stink

[rotund bay]

they throw spears at you, you throw one back at em

[wintry valve]

I wish weapon skill affected durability loss

[gray sand]

I rarely throw my spear 😄

[rotund bay]

you should throw em more

[gray sand]

No.

[rotund bay]

show dominance against dem green goblins throwing pointy sticks at you

[shy marlin]

i love how everyone within a 200 mile radius gets mad at you for throwing your spear but if you hurl a giant fireball no one bats an eye #1202313396356128808things

[wintry valve]

Theres a point where I stopped using spear because everything I wanted a good weapon against was resistant to piercing

I feel like everything in the ashland and perhaps mistland is piercing resistant.

[rotund bay]

spears, atgeirs, bows, crossbows
even daggers are half pierce, and porcupine too

[regal spoke]

Mystlands is resist to all base damage?

[rotund bay]

seekers are resistant to anything physical
gjalls and their broods are weak to pierce iirc

[wintry valve]

Bows are unique in that I can easily rely on special arrows, and that they are the better ranged option between the two available choices.

I mean... gjall... they could be weak to slashing and blunt that it wouldnt change much

[shy marlin]

only the gjalls underbelly is weak to pierce

[regal spoke]

I checked the wiki. Yea. Spears have such good stagger against many mobs. Atgeir could nicely act as a secondary for some engagements

[tacit crystal]

That's known as "Reverse card" or "No u" throw.

[gray sand]

Shoot them in the tentacles.

[rotund bay]

yeah, thats very much their weak spot
not like you can get a hit on that spot with other physical attacks
magic is magic

speaking of weak spots, trolls, seeker warriors and gjalls are the only ones that have em, yeah?

[shy marlin]

yes, hope 1.0 goes more into depth on weak spots

[gray sand]

"Skill expression target areas"

[shy marlin]

😏

[wintry valve]

I actually like how this game isnt overly reliant on weak spots

[frail wagon]

daggers are so odd

theres no iron dagger but their technically is

[gray sand]

Not every biome has every weapon.

[plush umbra]

the abyssal razor is swamp-tier in terms of stats and likelihood of when you have it

-# and considering that the black forest already has a knife

[gray sand]

There's 11 non-magical weapon types.
The average is 7 options per biome.

[frail wagon]

expect swords.

[gray sand]

Meadows.

[frail wagon]

im pretty sure every biome has a sword expect the meadows

[outer olive]

anyone want to start a valheim world wit me

[frail wagon]

to be fair. like 4 weapons have something in meadows

[gray sand]

#1024264966712340510

[gray sand]

Also Silver Sword is a very specific weapon.
So technically there is no general-purpose Mountain Sword.

[frail wagon]

either way. it still technically has a sword

[gray sand]

Literally does, technically doesn't 😉

[frail wagon]

my poor poor magic

its so fun and you have to wait so long to get it 😭

[gray sand]

Magic is overpowered as fuck and not poor in any way.

[frail wagon]

fireball 🗣️

[gray sand]

🥱

[robust delta]

true fireball staff is really good for hunting deers and misthares

[frail wagon]

using fireballs to hunt misthares is like using hand grenades to hunt rabits

its a tad overkill

[plush umbra]

all mountain weapons are like that, that's just their thing

[robust delta]

but damn is it satisfying

[frail wagon]

just kidding i did that all the time

[gray sand]

Spear isn't.

[regal spoke]

Casts lightning bolt

[frail wagon]

misthare suck ass to hunt

[plush umbra]

not to mention, the balancing specifically on the silver sword is wack - its slash damage is still significantly higher than the iron sword's, it's a direct upgrade no matter what you're fighting

[robust delta]

yeah man. doesn't help that i like big heavy hits so before i converted to a mage on my 1st playthrough i was hunting hares with arbalest lol

[frail wagon]

overkill is NOT real.

that hare WAS a threat and it WAS reasonable to trolstav it

[robust delta]

it's called self defense 🗣️

im suddenly reminded of a good time i had in mistlands

i was brawling with a seeker (idk if it was a soldier or not) and i died

[fading blaze]

ive never had fun in the mistlands, not possible for me

[robust delta]

the end so i went back to do a corpse run and after dieing a few more times i finally came back. the seeker was almost dead but regened a sliver of health back. idk what the exact circumstance was, but next thing i knew was that it was raining, and i was fist fighting it

was the battle of the ages of like 3 minutes and the naked viking won

[frail wagon]

i hate how the fog doesnt atleast thin up after killing the queen

[gray sand]

*mist

[frail wagon]

same thing :p

[shy marlin]

mist torches 😍

[gray sand]

No.

[shy marlin]

you can have an essentially mist free queen citadel if you are clever with your placements and use some cheeky mechanics 😏

[gray sand]

forcedelete mistarea 50 😏

[shy marlin]

cheater

[gray sand]

Single-player game. I can cheat if I want to 😛

[shy marlin]

shakes fist at the sun angrily

[gray sand]

Wait till you learn about:
forcedelete TarLiquid
😄

[frail wagon]

you WILL drain the tar like odin intended

[gray sand]

99% of the time, yes.
If I want to build on top of the pit, no.

[buoyant panther]

Can you restore the liquid after deleting?

[gray sand]

You can spawn TarLiquid anywhere you want.

[plush umbra]

-# obligatory semi-unimportant reminder that the radius goes before the ID filter in the forcedelete command

[gray sand]

-# IronGate coding things backwards. 😏

[hot bolt]

Mistlands for me would have been enjoyable if the mist was tied to dungeons or bosses that once cleared or killed reduced the mist. Even with mist lights it was a horrible experience

[misty cloak]

hello peeps, getting back in since its been awhile and ive got the urge, anyone know a good mod to replace valheim+? the autofeeding chests and hoe range are what im really after

[gray sand]

No such thing as a good mod.

[merry pebble]

#mods-discussion

[misty cloak]

oop, thank you

[misty cloak]

why not?

[gray sand]

Just go ask over in the proper channel.
Not worth getting into it.

[misty cloak]

ok, ill just leave you to passionately hating mods then

how is the ashlands? is it at least a bit less frustrating then the mistlands?

[gray sand]

Mistlands wasn't frustrating... so... ?

[old flint]

Its fire and swarms of enemies

[misty cloak]

the mist that blinded you CONSTANTLY even with wisps wasnt frustrating to you?

[gray sand]

It's the MIST lands...

[misty cloak]

that seems WAY more manageable lol

[old flint]

Idk about that

[misty cloak]

true, but i wouldve liked to have unlocked a better wisp or had some way to see like, a good 10 feet

[old flint]

I still enjoy plains and mountains the most

[cosmic igloo]

yea tbh mistlands is more frustrating than ashlands. ashlands is more difficult because of the combat tho

less frustrating, more difficult

[misty cloak]

im cool with difficulty lol, i often have metal before eikthyrdeer and that was a process to learn lol

[tiny tiger]

Ashland’s is really fun once you get Berserkir and can just go ham

[merry pebble]

You mean the 10 meter radius we already have?

[misty cloak]

oooo, sounds fun, doews it take till ashlands to get a scythe?

[tiny tiger]

Mistlands becomes bearable once you get feather cape

[merry pebble]

you get it after Moder

[tiny tiger]

Scythe is unlocked post moder and it’s not a weapon

[noble axle]

forcedelete 1000 mistarea

[misty cloak]

IS IT ACTUALLY?!?!?!?

i always manage to outrun it

[merry pebble]

Yes

[tiny tiger]

Unfortunately it’s not a very smart wisp

[misty cloak]

huh....... alrighty guess im needier then i thought

[noble axle]

it's good in dungeons to see stuff

[misty cloak]

50 METERS!!!!!!!!!

[noble axle]

outside it's ok I guess could be better

[misty cloak]

low vis is one of my least favorite game mechanics

like if its brief aand thematic, awesome, constant? ew

[cosmic igloo]

yea mistlands is generally considered the worst biome

[noble axle]

mistlands is the best looking biome (with the mist removed) imo,I haven't seen Ashland's yet but I think it's just lava and stuff

[misty cloak]

its so fucking beautiful when you actually get to see it too

[noble axle]

plains was my fav till I saw mistlands

[tiny tiger]

Ashland’s definitely has its charm it looks like a ravaged continent which seems like what they were going for too

[merry pebble]

Can you not make your own thoughts seem like a general public opinion?

[tiny tiger]

post apocalyptic vibes

[noble axle]

Ooh ok

[misty cloak]

is it not? like when i see people complain its generally about the mistlands

[misty cloak]

oooooo

[tiny tiger]

Lmao mistlands and swamps are for sure the most hated biomes and it’s not even close based on the noise from all the internet sources

[cosmic igloo]

trust me pal ive been in this discord since the early 90s and mistlands has always been the most hated biome

[tiny tiger]

I guess Ashland’s would be a close third during ptb

[noble axle]

The enemies in mistlands are so lame tbh, it's just seekers and gjall w ticks really

[misty cloak]

like, if i could build a giga antimist tower, and just have like a mistdome thatd be awesome, but its outright smothering

[noble axle]

The rabbits are very beautiful especially 2 stars

[tiny tiger]

Does the Ashland’s shield generator clear mist in its vicinity ?

[noble axle]

🤔shield generator???

[misty cloak]

well that sounds cool and fancy

[shy marlin]

no but it really should

[tiny tiger]

Missed(mist) opportunity for sure

well I may as well suggest it I’m not sure if it has been suggested previously

[dusky spade]

Guys what's the tankard used for ?

[hushed pecan]

It’s cute

I only use it for decoration

[vital umbra]

drinking mead from your inventory in a different more dynamic way

because it has an animation of you doing it

[tiny tiger]

If you have multiple mead are you able to select which one like with having multiple arrow types in inventory?

[shy marlin]

no

[vital umbra]

from top downward i think

[tiny tiger]

I see

[shy marlin]

works the same as a bow does with arrows

[tiny tiger]

With how you can select which arrow type tho

[vital umbra]

if you did that you drink the mead

[dusky spade]

So apparently if you hold it whole tapping fermenter you get an extra brew , it fills it for you

[nocturne wolf]

That's now how tankards work, they don't store anything.

[tiny tiger]

anyone have any idea what I should do with my stack of morgen hearts???

[nocturne wolf]

Give them to Thor

[tiny tiger]

a worthy sacrifice

I did infact mistake the stack of proustite powder for the morgen hearts tho lol

I have 14 morgen hearts currently

[gray sand]

Something something "eat your heart out" something.
😏

[shy marlin]

Something something irongate should remove morgen hearts from the game

literal one recipe

[merry pebble]

Would be great if we would get a few recipes with it in DN 🙂

[gray sand]

Thunderstone has 1 recipe 😏

[nocturne wolf]

Without the thunderstone, what would we do with all the other useless items?

[gray sand]

Do what we do irl -> throw all the garbage in the ocean. 😏

[shy marlin]

2, ceramic plates (the joke is that they're only used to put in the obliterator)

[balmy willow]

would it be considered cheesing the game if my mistlands strat for fighting enemies is running like hell into a neighbouring biome and fighting there?

cos that's how I've been doing it lmao

[shy marlin]

i wouldn't think so no, intended game mechanic that factions fight eachother 👍

[balmy willow]

alright, good to know 👌

[noble axle]

Bile bags need more use besides 1 good item, and another one which gets outclassed the next biome 🤷

[wintry valve]

I feel that is true for many more items. There's lots of items in this game that has only a few limited uses. I wish we could turn all animal (and troll) skin into generic leather, and use that leather for whatever the game asks leather for.

[lunar sapphire]

💡 #suggestions channel for Suggestions ❤️

[wintry valve]

I dont remember if I suggested that already

[mild garnet]

Ok Im confused now. The first laviathan(flametal) we mined with the battering ram was easy. The laviathan did not seem to trigger when it was borken with it. The second one did for some reason? Do battering rams trigger liviathans?

[foggy glacier]

they still trigger sinking occasionally, ys.

[mild garnet]

The first one didn't make a single sound the entire time we mined it. Until we actually mined with our pickaxe the laviathan didn't seem to register being broken.

Was that pure luck?

I thought they make sounds when being struck even if they don't sink?

[shy marlin]

Intuition tells me pure luck, but now i'm not sure

[foggy glacier]

so you'll get the sound trigger if it's going to sink, then it'll start sinking shortly after.

[mild garnet]

Yes. I know how they work.

But they make sounds when struck.

When you first hit a liviathan it makes a sound does it not?

[foggy glacier]

I think that depends on the sound. Every time you hit it, there's the sound of the pickaxe striking. The kind of metallic groaning sound is linked to the sinking and it's not every time.

[nimble moss]

Its a 1% chance "per hit".

The battering ram pops multiple rocks with a single hit - so its statistically more likely to NOT cause the levitathian to sink, because you are hitting it less.

[mild garnet]

I know what a pickaxe sound is... can you not talk to me like Im dumb?

[mild garnet]

That makes more sense. So it was just luck based.

[nimble moss]

Thats my educated theory - but I havent checked the source code to be 100% sure - but I feel its a reaonsable assumption

[foggy glacier]

In that case, the answer to your previous question is "No." There is not a sound every time you first hit it.

[mild garnet]

Laviathans make warning sounds. The water ones in particular will randomly shake and make a sound without going down.

[nimble moss]

my experience is the only time a sound is made by them in ashlands is when you've "triggered" them - you get the advanced warning of like 15-20s before it starts going down. I dont remember getting a warning with no trigger - but maybe I'm not remembering correctly

[foggy glacier]

I didn't mean to offend. Sometimes people will ask similar questions because they honestly don't know. I didn't want to assume.

[gray sand]

Wait, you guys play with the sound on?

[foggy glacier]

lol

I'm masochist enough to play with 'always-on' music

[nimble moss]

sound yes, music no.

You need sound to hear the bees at the start 🙂

[gray sand]

Music yes, sound no 😏😁🙃😉

[shy marlin]

truly skilled players play with no sounds on 😏

[foggy glacier]

or just destroy every structure you come across in Meadows.

[gray sand]

I'm the deaf version of Daredevil.
No sound, sight enhanced.

[foggy glacier]

How do you ever catch rabbits without sound on?

[gray sand]

spawn wabbit 50

[foggy glacier]

Or find soft tissue, for that matter? I love the sound of tics now.

[gray sand]

Look for ribs. See if skull at top of ribs

Or just never talk to the bird that spawns on skulls. Makes them really easy to spot 😁

[foggy glacier]

I do that too, but I still rely on his 'Poof'

[frank spade]

i looking for a group, never play valheim, i speak portugues from brazil

[foggy glacier]

ask in #1024264966712340510

Welcome to the server though!

[frank spade]

thx

[azure yacht]

Can you not take things in the worst way possible for no reason at all?

[mild garnet]

I can. And wasn't but I believe you just did....

I was asking a simple question and was having someone explain the bassics of sound differences to me. I would say that was treating me like I was dumb.

[frank spade]

here have play from brazil?

[azure yacht]

Nope, it's 100% you assuming wrong things

[azure yacht]

#valheim-chat message

[mild garnet]

Nope it 100% wasn't. Even they agreed it could be taken that way.

You are the only one taking offence and you weren't even in the conversation.

[azure yacht]

I'm... taking offence...

I have seen champions in miscomprehending things but so far you took the prize. Unbelievable

[mild garnet]

I think you are the one that has taken the prize.

But I could care less what you think. As you come into the chat After a convo has ended and start stuff up for no good reason.

I asked a simple question of "do Laviathans make a noise when they are first hit" and they tried explaining to me that pickaxes make a noise when swung. That is in fact acting as if Im dumb.

But sure I took things in the worst way possible why not.

Some people lol. Have an amazing day and remember to stay kind. I have things to do.

[balmy willow]

toxicity? in my chill viking game? preposterous /j

[shy marlin]

Often times it's the most casual gamers that are toxic, at least in MMOs

wouldn't really say the convo above is toxic tho

[balmy willow]

yeah, was just exaggerating on my part

[gray sand]

What about making sure all players have opportunity for Toxicity Expression? 😉😏

[shy marlin]

Doesn't align in my Valheim commandments.

😔

[wintry valve]

speaking of toxicity, poison damage sucks in this game

[shy marlin]

make it stack and gg it's fixed

maybe jotun pain won't be worthless then

[rotund bay]

wish we could lace our weapons with that for added dot on every strike 😔

my valheim commandments only have one rule, its that "Thine bees must always be overjoyed"

[gray sand]

Personally I'd fix by making Poisoned enemies take more damage.

That way it's different from Fire but still achieves equivalent DPS.

[shy marlin]

that might get op real quick

[gray sand]

equivalent being the main term.

[shy marlin]

dunno how you'd make sure it'd do equivalent dmg

eg. shoot something with a draugr bow (get poisoned) then swap to krom, do special and with the modifier you do insane dmg

but idk world of hypotheticals

i'm sure in some world it could be balanced but ye

[gray sand]

I just needs to a) matter and b) do it differently than just "hey I stack" because we already have that.

[shy marlin]

I agree that it's kinda lame but sometimes simplicity works

[rotund bay]

either a weakness debuff or just add a flat amount of damage per hit on the target depending on the poison used

would love to wail on something with a knife to get most of the poison damage

[shy marlin]

weakness debuff might be crazy strong

[noble axle]

yea it could be pretty good against resistant enemies, all weapons would be viable everywhere

[rotund bay]

yeah
but if the poison got reworked, I wonder what that would do for ooze bomb

[noble axle]

and non resistant even better 🤔

[plush umbra]

imo simply significantly buffing the amount of poison damage on poison weapons would fix both.
it wouldn't make them overpowered for continuous attacks because you're still cutting off most of your damage by doing that, but it does make switching to another weapon benefitial

[rotund bay]

I was kinda liking throwing ooze bombs on infested mines as well as tricky fuling situations

[noble axle]

are ooze bombs good? I never tried them bc I always thought bile bombs were so much better but more expensive

[shy marlin]

yes very

obv bile are a direct upgrade but still don't count them out

they especially shine in dungeons like frost caves, sealed tower, and infested mines

[wintry valve]

I think poison just stacking would be boring. In fact I think any "damage over time" is virtually indistinguishable from any damage. Its just delayed. I think poison and the like should carry special effects, akin to how frost damage slows down enemies.

[plush umbra]

In fact I think any "damage over time" is virtually indistinguishable from any damage. Its just delayed.
preach, i always find it odd when people expect a weapon to do better because its damage is DoT in the end it does the same, and in the moment it's just slower at applying its damage.
enemies getting wet from rain would make things more interesting for lightning and frost damage, but then again those are already probably the two best elemental damage types (lightning ironically because it functions exactly like a physical type)
the wetness nerf to fire damage would be neat though

[wintry valve]

In fact, that poison damage doesnt stack does dinstinguish it from other form of attacks. It just sucks.

[plush umbra]

exactly

[wintry valve]

Poison could do something like reduce their attack power, or make them more susceptible to staggers.
Fire could make them more likely to go away (because fire scary). Or something like that.

[noble axle]

I never really understood why games have Dot attacks and then theres just a random element attack that doesn't have it and it sucks compared to the other options

[shy marlin]

weapon to do better because its damage is DoT

Typically it's because DoT has a certain amount of ramp to it, so it's expected that since you're not getting all of your damage in a burst, it should be more damage

Burst damage has certain qualities to it that makes it attractive, therefore it should do less damage than DoT

[plush umbra]

true, if you're balancing well, that is kinda the #1 rule for making a DoT damage type.

-# it's just that valheim didn't get the memo

[wintry valve]

which random element doesnt have damage over time?

[noble axle]

I understand that but the poison arrows (really anything poison) is not that great compared to fire or frost because it doesn't do anything except the initial damage

[plush umbra]

the only good examples of this balancing i can think of are fire arrows, which have more total damage than flinthead, and the silver sword, which is incidental because that weapon's stats stem from a time when spirit damage didn't stack yet, so they had to make it that high for the damage to matter, which is why the silver knife and crystal battleaxe aren't quite so generous with it.

-# oh yea, fire arrows are of course also from before hearth & home made spirit and fire stack, so they might have the same reason

[rotund bay]

that's kinda sad
I hope they'll look back to this once they're done with the final area

[shy marlin]

hopefully in 1.0 or after 1.0 when they're doing bugfixes and maybe some desired balance changes

[fiery plank]

hello all im just looking for a newbie friendly server

[shy marlin]

Check out #1024264966712340510

[rotund bay]

more fist weapons 🙏

[craggy niche]

Chilling on a post-Fader hard server now. Balance was decent, but my main issue with mist/Ashlands enemies was the absolute lack of creature sense tuning.

Neither mistlands nor Ashlands enemies have tuned senses for noise/pulling/sight/sneaking beyond the absurdly large defaults. This results in any fight or activity pulling all loaded enemies all the time.

[rotund bay]

sneaking goes out the window after your first shot in ashlands
yeah it's quite sad

[craggy niche]

Simple example is deathsquitos vs seekers while coastal sailing. It is fairly safe to sail near plains without pulling deathsquitos (their max sense range is limited, so they don't pull), but seekers will chase your boat from inland because they don't have limits on their max senses range

Noticeable when sailing at night and seekers spawn on every coast flying at your boat like a tanky deathsquito

Even lox are fairly blind where you can walk up to their butt cheeks before they aggro

Another comparison is all swamp draugrs have much smaller sense distances compared to charred skeletons.

It was always possible to sneak around swamp spawners and draugrs due to their shortsightedness, but charred enemies see you from across the zone.

Several similar enemy designs mechanically, but all mists/Ashlands variants have zero creature sense tuning.

[pliant radish]

omg

I didn't know iron ore existed in valheim
nice :D

[near furnace]

unless you're planning to build a huge castle. Iron is one of the most used resources in the entire game

[gray sand]

Especially if you're planning to build a huge castle.

[pliant radish]

I didn't know iron ore could be found though until I randomly got it while fishing, thought only iron scrap existed

[near furnace]

Fish eat the wierdest things in valheim 😉

[gray sand]

Fishing is the only way to acquire it.

[near furnace]

lying is against the rules btw

[gray sand]

Iron ore is obtained from Fishing, as a bonus drop when catching Giant herring.

Iron ore veins do not currently spawn in game, thus it cannot currently be mined in game.

[near furnace]

you never pickaxes in swamps right? 😉

never found a chunk of iron ore to mine?

[pliant radish]

if that exists its so well hidden that I've never seen or heard of it

[near furnace]

normally you get iron from dungeons in swamps

[gray sand]

1. Wiki apparently needs an update.
2. I thought you just found submerged scrap piles in swamp?

Has it always been iron ore veins in the swamp? Or did that get updated?

[near furnace]

only like super tiny ore patches

[gray sand]

Although this item has always been present in the game, it was originally unobtainable except via console commands, much like its corresponding ore vein.

[gray sand]

Genuine: Do you have, perchance, a screenshot of what the ore vein looks like in the swamp?

[near furnace]

not on hand no 😄

you can get iron from those big blobs also 🤔

and those things in mistlands

[gray sand]

That is still Scrap though, not Ore.

So are you saying there are Iron ORE veins in the swamp to be found?
Or are even the out-of-crypt ones just Scrap piles?

[near furnace]

not veins

[gray sand]

Nuggets, w/e
The important part of the question is Ore vs. Scrap

[pliant radish]

I love fishing but my biggest grievience with it is that the best way to catch fish is also the best way to avoid gaining fishing xp

[gray sand]

Before I go spend an hour trying to hunt down proof they need to update the wiki.

[gray sand]

Making other people fish for you?

[pliant radish]

standing on the edge of the water with the line as close as possible so that you barely have to reel to catch the fish

[merry pebble]

Will look into it when i get home, but i also don't remember ever finding ore veins in swamps, only scrap piles

[gray sand]

I'm already flying around.

[merry pebble]

Freefly should do the trick

[craggy niche]

Yeah, scrap piles on overland swamps have been around forever. Found them with hammer aoe before, but the yield is still terrible for the effort. The problem is that most of them are partially underwater.

[gray sand]

Found 6 different secrets with Wishbone in Swamp, all were Scrap.
So idk.

[gray sand]

We are aware of the scrap piles, Smiffe has put forth there is Iron Ore to be found as well.

[pliant radish]

maybe wishbone doesn't alert you

[craggy niche]

What is iron ore?

[gray sand]

Currently believed to only be a bonus drop when fishing for Red Herring.

Smiffe has suggested this is not the case.

[gray sand]

@median umbra Thank you.... but read context first.

[median umbra]

i did - and now you know 😉

[merry pebble]

I would not rely on wishbone, the freefly allows you to look directly under the surface

[gray sand]

I already fucking knew about the Scrap Piles.....

We are looking for SOMETHING ELSE.....

[gray sand]

Is this different than pressing Z?

[merry pebble]

Yep

[pliant radish]

meanwhile: smiffe laughing uncontrollably at the trollage

[gray sand]

Is this a mod?

[merry pebble]

No, just type in console "freefly"

[craggy niche]

From context, it looks like smiffe is referring to iron scraps

[gray sand]

His exact words were ore, which is why I asked for clarification.

[craggy niche]

I have never received iron ore from blobs either nor from mists

[gray sand]

This is trippy AF 😂

[craggy niche]

In either case, the wiki is often wrong too

[vocal rivet]

No it isn't.

[craggy niche]

Boats receive damage from rain. Every single boat page.

Every time I link to it, I get muted on this server anyway, so I stop linking.

[vocal rivet]

First time ANYONE has mentioned that. See how this works?

[craggy niche]

See my post history. Not the first time.

[merry pebble]

It really isnt, and the few times it Is are reason why we constantly update it 🙂 just few days ago somebody put in there that 3 trolls spawn during the "Ground Is shaking" event, sometimes people just come and change things based on what they think they know

[vocal rivet]

I can't fix what I don't know is wrong.

[craggy niche]

I also can't link to the wiki, so that is a different problem; otherwise, I get the mute

[vocal rivet]

Anyone can.

[craggy niche]

If I try, I get muted 1 min

[vocal rivet]

https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Raft

Interestingly, under damaged by rain it says no.

[flat oar]

Hey hey Valheimer, my Friends and me planning to play again around as 5-6 People. Do we still have massive Problems in ashland with Performance und lagging? Last time it broke our run and Motivation 😵‍💫😅

[vocal rivet]

I don't know, do you?

@steady bough Huh?

Gotcha, reported.

[pliant radish]

Why would you report them

[steady bough]

Only played using my own hosted server with another friend so far with little to no issues, defo some lag on parrying though sometimes. I think the best thing to do is just test it with a dedicated server / hosted one andd see whats what

[vocal rivet]

Pointless reaction spam.

[pliant radish]

You're delusional

[vocal rivet]

Not particularly.

[steady bough]

Not spam, you replied in a rude and obnoxious way, ive not been here long but can clearly see people have had ashlands performance issues.

You obviously lurk these channels 24/7 and echo the words of devs. You were rude. not me

[vocal rivet]

How was I rude? I asked a question.

And no, I really don't.

[steady bough]

If you mean in terms of general FPS though its... not great. 4070 and r5 5600x at 2k around 60fps average? 40 attacking fortresses maybe. My CPU is getting a bit ragged with age so likely that

[gray sand]

Searched multiple massive swamps. Found none.

I did find that buried scrap piles are a lot, lot more common than I previously though.

[vocal rivet]

Beginning to think Smiffe might be trolling or simply mistaken.

[gray sand]

Smiffe would never troll me 😭

[vocal rivet]

Lol. Ask him about the smell mechanic.

[craggy niche]

Back from 10 min mute by linking to wiki. See #screenshots.

Afaik, either I misread rules or there are hidden rules about what can be shared

[vocal rivet]

Have you tried NOT using a hidden link?

[craggy niche]

Why make it longer?

[vocal rivet]

To avoid the mute

[craggy niche]

And why wouldn't that be noted in the rules?

[vocal rivet]

Should be self evident. Don't post links where people can't see what they're clicking on.

[craggy niche]

I don't want to run tests on a discord server every 10 min

[vocal rivet]

You don't need to.

[pliant radish]

Its not self evident if its a relatively rare rule to encounter on discord and its not listed anywhere

[rotund bay]

sometimes links don't show things

it's not a big issue, it's done
leave it be

[vocal rivet]

In any case. Raft doesn't say it's damaged by water, so I'm confused.

[craggy niche]

So it was pleasantly changed some time this week

[rotund bay]

don't rafts get damaged by high waves?

[lunar sapphire]

You attempted to mask the link to make it look cleaner

we have that feature blocked ❤️

[vocal rivet]

Yes, different issue.

[rotund bay]

I see

[vocal rivet]

December 30th.

[craggy niche]

Ok, two weeks

[vocal rivet]

Either way, I'm glad we spent half an hour on something that wasn't wrong.

[rotund bay]

I mean, it doesn't really take much to be kind when replying to others even if it's a repeated question

[vocal rivet]

Again, that's not unkind.

[pliant radish]

Clearly it was interpreted as such so instead of arguing that it isn't try to not sound like you are in the future

[rotund bay]

maybe to you, but when you show this to someone they'll definitely get the hint of the sarcastic tone which isn't really what people want as an answer

[lunar sapphire]

Perception of messages online is entirely a Subjecthive thing.

[gray sand]

I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE

[vocal rivet]

By the guy who actually asked?

[craggy niche]

Thanks for the clarification. It would be nice if this were noted in the rules. Hard to know when a mute is caused by censored content or blocked features.

[lunar sapphire]

Can pass that forward. Some of these instances however fall under common sense. For example attempting to at everyone for a random message in this discord? of course we won't allow that 😄

[rotund bay]

if you don't plan on actually answering a question, best to just not reply at all
good day

[lunar sapphire]

I'd re-read the rules before posting further. This convo is bordering an argument.

[flat oar]

I found now via Copilot Same Information and it is still a ingoing issue with the Performance stuff and lagging and clientside issues etc. since ashlands. Bad to see and read and I dont understand what excatly the diffenrenve between Valheim and other massive openworld Game which even have better grafics and Details. Hope the best for Future 🍀🤔👌

[steady bough]

Unfortunately I think the game engine is likely at its limit and has a lot of deep rooted performance issues. Hopefully the devs can do what they can to minimise the effects in future updates.

[vocal rivet]

Most lag issues are caused by network issues, rather than actual game performance.

We recommend turning off VPNs, using fixed connections, turning off crossplay if not needed etc.

[flat oar]

Cant be we played 1000 ingame days without any Problem with the same pc,Network and Players and after going in the near of Ashland it ended in a Rubber Party. We played with it 2-3 weeks and when the Performance issue demotivated us 😢🕯️

[vocal rivet]

Ashlands is the most demanding biome in the game and will definitely exacerbate any existing issues.

[flat oar]

Its just say because we wanted to play as 8 and do Adventure with a boat of 8 Vikings Bit currently Not possible After out latest exp

[vocal rivet]

I've played with 7 and only experienced minimal lag spikes. They're still working on it.

[flat oar]

Now I cant offer them to play because this will Break our Motivation again. Hopefully with Release the hole Performance stuff would be gone. but thanks so far for Shared view and Feedback. We will hope the best for our Adventure

[rotund bay]

I personally don't proceed to ashlands until its optimized some more

[vocal rivet]

Seems unlikely it'll all be gone. As a single player game it's doing its best.

[rotund bay]

but dem elemental weapons are still spicy

[dim wave]

What cool stuff do people do after beating the last boss?

[gray sand]

• Build.
• If not happy, delete and rebuild.
• Repeat until happy.

[dim wave]

What about the mini bosses revealed on the map by female trader, how do i know when im ready for certain fights

[gray sand]

When you feel like going to fight them, fight them.

[rotund bay]

these minibosses feel stronger than the actual bosses, especially the one from the plains

[dim wave]

Oh

[gray sand]

No? Lmao

[dim wave]

Can i maybe go all in against the easiest mini boss to test magic?

[gray sand]

They are literally normal enemies with higher hp.

[dim wave]

Are the mini bosses just there or do i also need to spawn them, furthermore can i respawn them?

[gray sand]

We're back into "dude, just play the game" territory.

[rotund bay]

the fulling berserker with a shaman on top? naaaaah

[dim wave]

K

[gray sand]

Stay in melee and the shaman does nothing. So it's just a berserker and then just a shaman.

[merry pebble]

You are more than ready for them when you are ready for the boss of the apropriate biome

[rain flare]

The sun total of all building strategies 🥳

[gray sand]

A copy/paste I have from my days in the Satis discord with all the people asking for "optimal configuration" or "how do I build"...

[rain flare]

Or keep progressing to the mistlands, then return to the plains and cast fireball until it stops moving 😂🤣

[gray sand]

I will remain a muggle until we get better lightning/frost magic.

Fireballs are so 🥱

[rain flare]

Casts fireball in @gray sand’s general direction 🤭

[gray sand]

You can make fireballs irl with petrol and styrofoam

DO NOT FUCKING ATTEMPT TO DO SO EVER

Shooting lightning though, that's just cool af.

If frost staff dialed in accuracy with higher skill levels I would pledge my allegiance to the Circle of Magi the very same patch.

[lunar sapphire]

Hmm, my usual gif is not favourited anymore. Interesting

[rotund bay]

better accuracy on higher skill would definitely be nice

if we ever get a secondary move for staves I'd like it to launch a big icicle spear

[robust delta]

aw hell yeah

[near furnace]

more in the random scaps department

[long shore]

Hi! I am Korean. Anyone up for playing a game together?

[gray sand]

#1024264966712340510

[long shore]

thanks!

[opal prairie]

Noon gjall.

[tiny tiger]

Damn I’m finally getting lag spikes in Ashland’s

Been running the game capped at 60 and the more inland you are the more performance suffers I’m guessing all the lava lakes are the main culprit

[hardy ermine]

bro why is LFG only US

[tiny tiger]

I thought it would be all the random stuff left all over the ground that would be the cause of the lag at first especially around the trees but it doesn’t appear so

There are EU and others too you just gotta find them

[hardy ermine]

literally haven't seen any other posts apart from NA

[tiny tiger]

The one right at the top for me by cosmos is NA + EU

https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1225496212426195074

[cosmic igloo]

think some1 said the stuttering is because tons of assets being loaded in constantly

[tiny tiger]

I hope the deep north isn’t like this

[hardy ermine]

nah i'd like a smaller community

also why is like every server 25+

why do only old people play this 😭

[tiny tiger]

Bruh why 25 surely it’s not that much of a difference from 21 to 25 lol

[cosmic igloo]

yea i assume part of their rework is fixing the lag

[hardy ermine]

I'm 18 😭

[cosmic igloo]

just be friendly and i bet they will accept u anyways

[hardy ermine]

tried already

[tiny tiger]

Or find an 18+ one

[rain flare]

Entity count

The number of things that just lie around in Ashland’s after a lava bomb goes off is horrid

Not to mention mob count

[river forge]

So deep north is the last biome?

[nocturne wolf]

Yes. Once it releases, the game's content will be finished.

[river forge]

It feels a long way from finished

[near furnace]

it isn't

[tiny tiger]

Finallt got 2 asksvin in a hole lowkey regretting not brewing up animal whispers beforehand but atleast my sneak skill has doubled in level

I’m really hoping the vibe for deep north is a cross between the mountains plains and Black Forest tbh

[cosmic igloo]

like the haunted forest from game of thrones

[tiny tiger]

Oo yeah

Ayyy they finally tamed

[balmy willow]

i honestly don't get mistlands hate

i've been through the biome in two playthroughs, and i love it

[tiny tiger]

People like being able to see and travel with ease

Mistlands is misty and full of large height variation which makes it hard to traverse

If you go in without using everything available to you from the previous biomes you are in for a bad time too, potions best food and maxed armor makes the biome significantly more bearable

[foggy glacier]

I think a large part of the ML hate is due to the fact that you really need to go slow through it. POI and resources are easy to miss and the terrain is difficult. Most gamers just want to get on to the next thing.

[azure yacht]

In other words: They want to play quickly a game that's meant to be played slow

100% on them, not the game

[balmy willow]

yeah, i take my time with upgrades and preparations unless it would be funny to come in underprepared

[proper sundial]

when starting a new game I always miss mistlands the most and cant wait to get there

[opal prairie]

They want it all and they want it now!

[balmy willow]

i love the mistlands tbh, in both playthroughs, it's like if the swamp was on steroids

[balmy willow]

same, it's mistlands and plains for me

[proper sundial]

exept way mroe beautiful atmosphere

[foggy glacier]

Shhh, be vewwy vewwy qwiet! We're huntin' wabbits.

[opal prairie]

I'm always sad when I'm done in the black forest, I love stabbing trolls with the abyssal razor.
I dread the mountains but love the plains and the mistlands.

[foggy glacier]

Mountains are where I die the most. I fall too much.

[tiny tiger]

My personal ranking for the biomes would be something like

1. Mountains - wonderful vibes, enjoyable gameplay loop, Frostner 🧊
2. Plains - Stunning scenery, great place to base up for the late game
3. Ashlands - Enjoyable combat, feels like a war zone
4. Mistlands - Feather Cape, fun boss fight
5. Swamp - Longship is great, constant rain not so much
6. Black Forest - not that I dislike it I just usually try get through the early stage of the game as quickly as possible
7. Meadows - tutorial biome, serves its job well with introducing the player to the mechanics, simple

[gray sand]

Plains
Mountains
Forest
Mistlands
Ashlands
Swamp
50
Feet
Of
Crap
Meadows

[proper sundial]

I find the black forest beautiful but I despise the trolls and greys. I cant stand that biome

[opal prairie]

I like the simplicity of the meadows and the black forest, not too much going on, not too much you need to care about, the swamps makes it more complex and it only gets more complex after that.

[tiny tiger]

It’s a great biome it’s just like tutorial biome part 2 tho

[balmy willow]

for me, it's

1. Plains
2. Mistlands
3. Black Forest
4. Meadows
5. Swamp
6. Mountains

have never played ashlands before (i'm terrified)

[proper sundial]

greys are the worst msot infuriating mobs in the game. they shoukd be in later biomes i think haha

[tiny tiger]

Only until you acquire the atgeir

[balmy willow]

their remains take up inventory space too

[tiny tiger]

I find the first time in burial chambers annoying if you don’t get a stagbreaker and are swarmed with skellies

[balmy willow]

i actually avoid any of the sledges cos it makes the chambers a tad too easy

[proper sundial]

YES! and the rocks and erratic movement.

[nocturne wolf]

I use a flint axe when I go into my first burial chambers

[gray sand]

Open a door, 2 star skeleton be like SURPRISE MOTHERFKER!

[tiny tiger]

with a archer behind him to shoot you when you staggered

[opal prairie]

Plains, mistlands, meadows, black forest, swamp, ashlands and mountains for me.

Weapons related: black forest, mistlands, ashlands, mountains, the rest if the biomes.

[tiny tiger]

Damn mountains so low

[nocturne wolf]

Mistlands
Ashlands
Plains
Swamp
Black Forest
Meadows
Mountains

[tiny tiger]

Plains seem to be a near universally loved biome lol based on all these rankings

[nocturne wolf]

It has no dungeons, that's why I like it

[tiny tiger]

Its like the Goldilocks biome

Not too far from the edge not too close to the centre, not too easy not too difficult

[azure yacht]

It's already terraformed and almost all crops grow there

Best place for a permanent base

[tiny tiger]

Abundant finewood and tar

Black metal

[gray sand]

Green metal 😏

[tiny tiger]

I think even the game design hints at you to set up base there with looting of the fuling villages, you get loot that can be used to craft workbench upgrades without needing to go back to meadows

[balmy willow]

surprisingly not, from what i've seen on reddit

i see more posts saying the plains is boring than posts praising it

[tiny tiger]

Hmm what biomes are praised on the Reddit ?

[balmy willow]

i see lots of black forest and meadows praise and that's it lol, but then again reddit is super negative usually

[tiny tiger]

Searched up favourite biome polls and from 2+ years ago it went meadows Black Forest mountain plains to 1+ years ago being meadows black forest plains mountain to 10 months ago a poll showing meadows plains Black Forest mountain

[cosmic igloo]

gaming subreddits are usually filled with sub 100 hour players, they prolly havent even gotten to mistlands

[tiny tiger]

It looks like plains popularity has definitely been rising over the years, I’d be interested in seeing a more recent poll and results

[dim flicker]

I'd like to see another meat source in the plains, like the rabbit. Maybe a groundhog type thing that runs around idk. Something not designed to hate you

[cosmic igloo]

mosquito meat mmmm

[tiny tiger]

Oo a poll from 5 months ago shows meadows and plains evenly split at no1

[gray sand]

Plains has 1 meat, Mountain has 1 meat, Swamp has... 0 meats, Forest has 1 meat.

Seems like Plains is exactly on par with all the previous biomes 🤷‍♂️

[tiny tiger]

Swamp has draugr intestine meat

[gray sand]

Entrails is just the skin container for the Boar Meat in the sausage.

[dim flicker]

swampsages

[cosmic igloo]

mmm draugr intestines, id love to just eat em raw

[tiny tiger]

Ashland’s has 2 meat with rotten meat and asksvin tail

[cosmic igloo]

volture meat too

[tiny tiger]

mistlands has 2 with seeker and hare and technically chicken meat unless you consider that plains meat

yeah vouture too

[dim flicker]

ooh wild plains chickens running around

[nocturne wolf]

Chicken is used for mistlands recipes, not plains recipes.

[tiny tiger]

It can be acquired in the plains tho

[nocturne wolf]

I know, but it isn't used there

And was originally only available after yagluth was defeated

[frozen bear]

Hello people
nice to meet you all

[cosmic igloo]

hi u2

[opal prairie]

Shakes one of those eight hands.

[frozen bear]

haha 7 actually

other one would be the wiwi

anyone knows where can I share sound redsigns for Valheim ? @pliant ocean

[tiny tiger]

Octopus handshake roulette

Wait so how does it work for female octopi

Oh it’s in their ears apparently

[opal prairie]

Octopus has 8 arms so there should he 8 hands, no?
:p

[frozen bear]

in fact it's 6 arms and two legs

[opal prairie]

8 arms and 2 legs for squids, but octopi have all the same length of arms, no?
That is were the octo (meaning 8) comes from, no?
If it isn't so my biology teacher from way back when has some explaining to do.

[frozen bear]

it really depends on the type of the octopus we are talking about here.
And don't worry your biology teacher is right and Octa means 8

[robust delta]

just had a funny thought. voltures having electric based attacks cuz volt in volture lol

[primal hawk]

Hello everyone. I would like to know if anyone was able to kill the queen with physical damage on a high difficulty threesome?

We have problems when the queen loses 1/2 of her health and starts spamming by summoning seekers (about 4-6 seekers come out at a time)

[cosmic igloo]

can you have 2x players dealing with seekers and 1x queen? because queen herself is pretty easy as its basically just power attack -> roll -> power attack -> roll -> ...

[craggy niche]

I killed her solo on hard using mistwalker and a stack of bile bombs over 25 min

[nocturne wolf]

She can only use her summon attack once every 60 seconds, she can't spam it

[robust delta]

how good are bilebombs?

[merry pebble]

Pretty decent 🙂

[craggy niche]

They clear groups of seekers efficiently

[merry pebble]

Ooze bombs are good too but they do less dmg

[craggy niche]

Ooze bombs for ticks maybe

Or broodlings

[cosmic igloo]

demolisher work very good for boordlings tooo

[raven salmon]

Do items on the ground disappear if you leave them too long on the ground? Like Stones, etc.?

[near furnace]

yes

but

not if they are near a workbench or some other base items

[merry pebble]

If they are not in range of player base item then they will despawn after 2 in game days

[raven salmon]

Noooooooooooo

[near furnace]

but in a forrest yes. after a few days, they despawn

[raven salmon]

That's where my 80+ silver went 😦

[near furnace]

probably 😦

[raven salmon]

But if i find a random house in a biome and i put them in a chest there it's fine, right?

[merry pebble]

Yep

[raven salmon]

Ok, that's what i did now 🙂

[near furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/nice-trent-arant-ttthefineprinttt-good-job-well-done-gif-27391991

[robust delta]

cool beans. never made bombs b4 except for ashland platforms. i was mage so had crowd control handled, tho i can't imagine how warrior would handle it lol

[opal prairie]

Lot's of running, rolling, jumping and using the environment.
Like kiting her up the stairs all the way to the top and then jumping down with the feather cape, while softly gliding down, chug the potions you need and have a rest so you can do it all again.

[robust delta]

ah so pretty much like mage lol

[cosmic summit]

Is there any point to upgrading my arbalest?

[shy marlin]

yes

[nocturne wolf]

You'll get more durability and damage, like with anything else

[robust delta]

aside bilebombs, was wonderin' if demolisher would play any decent niche. never really used the two handed hammers but maybe there's some way

[robust delta]

bigger numbers. everyone loves that

[shy marlin]

only thing that's pointless to upgrade is the trollstav

[cosmic summit]

The wiki shows that max level is only 9 more damage

[shy marlin]

extra dmg is extra dmg

not like upgrading it is that expensive anyways

[nocturne wolf]

The durability is increased by 50 with every level. By upgrading it once you're doubling the total durability.

[azure yacht]

Not like the arbalest is the worst case of running out of durability...

[robust delta]

oh. well aside durability (but kinda slow in gen so won't rlly be breaking often), it's the best crossbow out there i think, so may as well polish up ole charlie
guess the dmg will slightly help with skill scaling

[azure yacht]

That's ripper

[opal prairie]

Yeah but sometimes you need to move closer to the threat as with a mage you can stay away and you have more tools to your disposal to distract the threat.

[fallow shale]

When is the next update

[merry pebble]

We dont know

[shy marlin]

Sometime in the future

[fallow shale]

Also when is the game gonna fully release

[shy marlin]

Next update = 1.0

[robust delta]

dunno either, tho 1.0 is the final version. final biome is gonna be deep north and they're currently working on that

[opal prairie]

No one knows: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s88r_q7oufE

[proper sundial]

Hey vikings! is it possible to remove ash fortress spikes with precision (picaxe etc) or do they only take siege dmg?

i hit them with picaxe a million times without breaking but for some reason I see damage numbers instead of 0

[ivory sentinel]

Is Yagluth supposed to drop more than just the trophy? I killed him on top of his alter and can only seem to get the trophy. Been a long time since playing there used to be a place holder item.

Just want to make sure no items clipped through the alter and couldn’t be grabbed

[nocturne wolf]

He drops a trophy and some torn spirits

[ivory sentinel]

Dang, I figured there was something. That sucks. Gonna have to kill him again. Been having an issue a lot lately with drops falling through stuff.

Thank you!!

[regal spoke]

Sick pfp jj

[merry pebble]

You should be able to remove them 🙂 i believe sledges should work on them too

[ivory sentinel]

Thanks!

[proper sundial]

alright ill give my best and let you guys know how many days it took to break one ;D

[fair cairn]

i think buildinga workbench on the go is pretty easy and with that, a storage chest

hmm thanks discord for not updating untill i hit sent

[tacit crystal]

Also Staff of Wild if you don't care about projectile damage numbers, since roots damage scales with Elemental magic skill level, not quality of the staff.

[primal hawk]

Well, that's exactly the problem, we have 1 mage and 2 warriors in our team, I throw a shield at them and run after the queen and hit her with a staff of ice, and everything went well for the first half of the fight, but then we started dying even under a mass of bones and a shield, and it wasn't the queen who killed us,
but the seekers, and if I went to help my allies, then even though I killed all the seekers with a fire staff, new ones immediately spawned, also due to the duration of the battle, 2 stacks of ooze bombs were over and now the warriors could not quickly deal with the small seekers and we decided to retreat and try again because our damage to the queen was too small And we couldn't have stood a long battle.

[regal spoke]

What were your warriors loadouts

[primal hawk]

First: Padded armor level 3, jotun Bane level 3, carapaceshield level 3, feather cape level 1
Second: carapace armor level 3, krom level 3, feather cape level 1

[regal spoke]

Pretty good kits. Seems odd they couldn't clear the seekers

[noble axle]

Yea Krom shreads Seekers, and Ooze/Bile bombs will take care of the broods, so idk what happened there

[regal spoke]

Desync in group play is a very real thing that, makes combat aids sometimes

[cosmic summit]

what sort of material can be used to encase the refinery? just iron and marble? could i just stick it up high and let the emissions fire off into space?

[primal hawk]

If I'm not mistaken, the seekers killed me without a shield with 1 hit (I ate stuffed Mushroom, Seeker Aspic, salad), according to one of the warriors, if he was attacked by 2 seekers at the same time from the fog and a strong attack, the first seeker stunned (blocking on Krom) the second killed(provided that he did not have time to roll over), just as often the seekers from the flight went on the attack and fell directly on the warrior's head, and no matter what he did, he could not throw off his head and died after several blows

[noble axle]

my friends told me putting it outside works as well

Just away from ur walls and stuff

[regal spoke]

Encased in earth away from other builds works

[noble axle]

^

[regal spoke]

What a fight. Can you see about getting everyones gear to level 4?

[merry pebble]

Not possible until ashlands

[regal spoke]

Fook I thought so. Ty Asatru

Is this a case of group scaling too

[primal hawk]

I'm not completely new to this game (1262 hours) and in principle it won't be difficult for me to get to the ashlands before killing the queen, but my friends don't want to do that.

[fading blaze]

@primal hawk introduce one of them to the atgeir seeker problem solved

[merry pebble]

The group scaling is fairly minor problem imo, with 1 or 2 more people fights get much much easier

[primal hawk]

I think this is a problem for us, because after summoning, we don't have 2 seekers, but 6

[regal spoke]

Tactically I was thinking similar. Atgeir, Mystwalker. Stuns and slows

[primal hawk]

Although I'm not sure exactly what it is exactly because of this.

[fading blaze]

its because she spawns more enemies based off of how many people are in there

[regal spoke]

Could use the demolisher as well when getting overrun

[primal hawk]

I actually wanted to kill her with the help of refined eitr and demolisher, just like they do in speedrans, but my friends don't want to kill the boss like that(

[rich ice]

The root harnesk helped me a lot in there. I'd let the seekers pile up, get some breathing room with the Demolisher, then wail away on the Queen with my trusty Frostner. Then run back to the entrance, clean up the seekers, and repeat.

Lots of heal pots, too.

[tiny tiger]

@gray sand any luck finding iron ore?

[foggy glacier]

only place I've ever got iron ore from is the bonus from catching herring.

[tiny tiger]

Smiffe said iron ore veins can spawn in swamps, whether he was trolling or not I’m unsure of

[foggy glacier]

there are muddy scrap piles randomly buried around swamp. That's probably what he means.

[trail pelican]

i'm 99% he was just casually referring to buried scrap piles

[tiny tiger]

I think so too but at the same time he used the word ore and not scrap and when asked for clarification did not reply

[trail pelican]

LOL, that sounds like something he'd do

I find it statistically improbable that iron ore veins exist in game and no one would have found them and news filtered its way back to the general community by now--unless they secretly added it VERY recently

[light moat]

Smiffes gotta be trolling y’all 😂

[tiny tiger]

Unless it requires very specific conditions to generate

[nocturne wolf]

Iron ore can only be obtained from fish

[trail pelican]

1 in 1 trillion chance to spawn iron ore veins buried in swamp

[light moat]

What’s more rare- iron ore, or blue dog winning the race? 👀

[tiny tiger]

Gonna have to look into source code for this one lol

[noble axle]

this? https://imgur.com/a/MpmhJK8

[tiny tiger]

Yes, specifically in vein form

[trail pelican]

yeah fish have smal chance to drop a particular item and one of the first drop that (iron ore) but also there's iron ore veins which are in the game assets and would work like 'normal' ore deposits just that there's no known current in-game spawns of the iron ore vejns

[noble axle]

yea theres no spawns of the veins

[tiny tiger]

I wonder if they will be used for the deep north

[nocturne wolf]

We can't have another biome that makes us use iron

[tiny tiger]

Iron and padded and deep north material lol

[trail pelican]

i could see that possibly, as they already have the assets ready-made, and do have a history of adding more available sources of older materials in later biomes

[noble axle]

Deep North should have it's own material

[pliant radish]

I watched it happen live last night and I've been laughing the entire time

[trail pelican]

yeah I think everyone would be sad if it didn't have it's own new material

even if you have to combine it with older materials

Frosteel (TM)

[foggy glacier]

lol

[merry pebble]

@foggy glacier Huh, now i cant find any tree with the lines, probably just visual bug

[foggy glacier]

yeah, makes sense.

[light moat]

Excited for this months dev blog 👀

[dim wave]

ever since i got magic items i havent had a single raid in the past 3 days+

[cosmic igloo]

because now every1 is afraid

[solemn venture]

is 13 surtling cores rare in a single burial chamber?

[merry pebble]

I would say so 🙂 it is very good haul

[snow flicker]

im ngl, when i first got too the tree sap in mistlands i told my friend "how much you wanna bet the feathered cape is icarus wings and we use the sap as a wax to hold feathers together" sad to see i was probably wrong 😔 still havent found the recipe for it yet and im not looking it up

[foggy glacier]

that sounds like you don't want help, yes? Not gonna spoil it for you unless you ask.

[snow flicker]

no help please, just tell me if im even in the right biome progression lol

[foggy glacier]

what's the last boss you killed?

[snow flicker]

yagluth

[foggy glacier]

Yep, mistlands is your next spot. Blue lights everywhere.

[snow flicker]

Will i eventually find the recipe for it in there? place is a hellscape rn

[neon sphinx]

Yes

[snow flicker]

ty

wouldve been cool to see they had an icarus wing concept but nonetheless that is a wholeee different mytho lmao

[regal spoke]

So Mistlands is everyone's favorite biome right

[pliant radish]

yes

[regal spoke]

I've been searching for almost a week. Looking for a perfect Mistlands island chain. Minimal to zero mist and 3-5 islands to work with. Perhaps some spires in the mix. I want to do a sweet community town on this server.

I've found a couple awesome mountains that edge right up to the ocean. Got some ideas going for those spots as well

[fallow shale]

Ok thanks btw that sounds so interesting

[lunar sapphire]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/861506054017122335/861532216785240094/ezgif.com-gif-maker_28.gif

There we go. Life is complete

[ember panther]

Good day vikings. Is 2025 the year this game finally leaves the beta?

[light moat]

Hard to say, we don’t really know. Maybe towards the end of 25, but I wouldn’t bet on it personally.

[azure yacht]

Completely impossible considering beta was left almost four years ago. Exactly on 02/02/2021

Kinda hard to leave something that already left

[regal spoke]

Clearly they were going for the Early Release phrase

[azure yacht]

I know

[regal spoke]

What are these notes you're taking

[near furnace]

don't ask

||you don't wanna know||

[regal spoke]

Insert classified top gun reference

[near furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/regalt-top-gun-top-gun-maverick-maverick-take-off-gif-26499421

[regal spoke]

Talk to me Goose. Talk to me.

[gray sand]

Smaveriffe

[lunar sapphire]

What’re you tryna say?

[whole wraith]

[near furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/mochi-mochimons-cute-kawaii-kitty-gif-492947389134426846

[regal spoke]

"Numbers, numbers, numbers, math, math, math"

[gray sand]

We need that "English dude... English" gif from the first Transformers movie.

[karmic pilot]

eh, i can... but i want to play with someone from poland 😦

[gray sand]

1. It's in the server rules, just fyi
2. #1024264966712340510

[karmic pilot]

oh, okey

but for sure i don't find anyone

[gray sand]

In there you can specify region/language preferences.

[karmic pilot]

ooooh

[gray sand]

Tbf most people play only with people they know. So yeah, finding a random person from your region who also wants to play with a random person is quite rare.

[karmic pilot]

yea, i know

but i don't have anyone to play with from my region :/

and i don't want to speak english all the time 😦

i just download this game like 5 min ago

[gray sand]

If you just got it, don't play with anyone.
Experience it for yourself first.

[regal spoke]

May be worth putting up an lfg post on Reddit as well. Current server I'm in was found this way

[karmic pilot]

yea, good idea

but still i need to find someone later

[gray sand]

You're talking like 100+ hours later.
Definitely not something to worry about at the present time.

[karmic pilot]

maybe, but in the night i like to play with someone, like 1h ago i just end another game solo

and it's become boring to play alone

[gray sand]

🤷‍♂️
Alone is my very strong preference.

[karmic pilot]

nah, alone is the best for dark souls and fps games

[gray sand]

Best is subjective.

[karmic pilot]

yep

but for me survival is better with someone, while shooters is better alone

[gray sand]

Better is subjective.

[karmic pilot]

but it's my preference

[gray sand]

😄 True.
This game can get souls-y depending on how you play though.

Lots of rolling. And if you miss roll on higher difficulties you just die.

[karmic pilot]

haha, i just download this game because of this xD

i love souls games

ok, i just create new game

sooo, what i need to do?

[shy marlin]

Listen to the birds

Best thing you can do is just be curious, "What's this? What's that?"

[karmic pilot]

sooo, how i can craft?

[merry pebble]

Tab and make hammer 🙂

[gray sand]

Just play. Seriously.
Just play the game.
Please do not be another person who is asking us every 4 minutes how anything and everything works and what the optimal all stuff...

Just... play the game. Experience it. 💛

[karmic pilot]

nah, i just want to know how to craft, it's all

[shy marlin]

The things i would do to play valheim again for the first time 😔

[karmic pilot]

now I will gonna kill everything that moves

[sinful fulcrum]

a free lobotomy

I can do that for you, same with elden ring, I will erase your memories

for a price of course

and v rising too

[sinful fulcrum]

Would you play hardcore, no map, no portal?

I never insisted but I will try right now, I hope i do not miss anything

[gray sand]

You can still play it for the first time.
It's called doing biomes in the correct order and actually killing bosses before progressing.
😏

[shy marlin]

but muh skill expression 😏

[gray sand]

Fists-only run. Problem solved.

[shy marlin]

already have was not a fan of no map and no portal

[gray sand]

No portal is fine.
No map is hell.

[regal spoke]

This right here to me is, the ultimate experience

[shy marlin]

As a builder no portal was unfun due to having to cart stuff around

it wasn't a challenge it was just the tedium

[gray sand]

CartSkill Issue

[shy marlin]

bro i have the cart skills

in fact i have insane cart tech

[gray sand]

I will say the same thing I said for years in the Satisfactory Discord:

Tedious? In a game founded on tedium?
No... say it ain't so... 😛

[shy marlin]

i like muh portals 😔 (But not the stone one fuck that pos)

[regal spoke]

Yea time investment at least doubles with no portals. No map was easy once you realize a big nav resource

[sinful fulcrum]

bro doesnt know how to send your boat flying back to your base

[gray sand]

Stone Portal was a mistake, but it had to be made given the universal law of "no game is perfect."

[regal spoke]

I mean you can server hop too. But that defeats the purpose

I'll bet Snail feels the same about stone portal.

[gray sand]

Idk who Snail is 🤷‍♂️

[shy marlin]

i bet i am the snail

[regal spoke]

I haven't seen Snail here since recently coming back. But he hated bow because it's op. So I'll bet he wouldn't use stone portal either

[karmic pilot]

yes!! i craft hammer 😄

[regal spoke]

Oh yeaaaa

[gray sand]

Of course the bow is op.
That's why we invented them irl 😄

[regal spoke]

Spear or bust for me

[gray sand]

Bust while using the spear for me 🥵

[shy marlin]

Atgeir gang

[regal spoke]

Atgeir is another op weapon. But so good

[gray sand]

I was an Atgeir man for a long time.
Then I was an Axe man.
Last run I tried out Spears and o-m-g.

[shy marlin]

how'd that spear work in the ashlands 😏

[gray sand]

Amazingly well.

AttSpd is so high you have nearly constant lightning procs.

[regal spoke]

I'm running primal and blood spears atm

[gray sand]

I don't understand people running primal on melee weapons, but 🤷‍♂️

[shy marlin]

is primal the green enchant

[merry pebble]

Yep

[shy marlin]

thought prcoess for green enchant on wep is immob them then flank em or w/e then just lay into em

but the procs are something you can't count on so i don't like em 🤷‍♂️

[regal spoke]

Procs are inconsistent for sure. I'm just having fun trying the new things.

[merry pebble]

I just take them as normal weapons with cool looks, and whenever they do their special effect i am happy 😄 no real need for everything to be 100% predictable

[raven salmon]

Do Silver veins normally only spawn a bit higher up Mountains? Or can they also spawn in/on the bottom of Mountains?

[merry pebble]

Only above certain height, yes 🙂

[raven salmon]

Yeah that's what i was thinking indeed. Never had my wishbone go off on the lower ends

[merry pebble]

Above 120m to be precise 😄

[raven salmon]

Thanks 😄

[obtuse cloud]

okay i think

its time for my yearly grind in valheim, every year around january-march i start playing valheim again, because i never really completed it and never had a run without cheating... so that means, its time to try again

lets spend another 200h on this game :D

[regal spoke]

Let's go

[gray sand]

I'm on hold until Winter feels like playing Valheim 👉 👈

-# Tiny text @plush umbra 😏

[sinful fulcrum]

I just tried no map

how do you guys do it? I located the spawn point, went to the lowest point from meadows because I know the ocean could be located there, all good, placing torches and workbenches, but damn, finding deer boss stone is impossible

[tiny tiger]

You have the vegvisir at spawn, ideally you wanna get a hoe crafted while still there and then make a path towards boss stone

then from there expand your path network to coast etc

[sinful fulcrum]

ah, the hoe game then

[tiny tiger]

or leave marks all over the world, your first ‘path’ could be a line of trees from spawn to the boss stone

a line of fallen trees I mean by that that you chopped down

[plush umbra]

-# super busy time for me xvx

[light moat]

Haven’t heard from snail in quite some time 🤔

[nocturne wolf]

SoftSnail?

[light moat]

Yep

Was wondering about Germs tileman run as well lol wonder if he finished it

[near furnace]

been quiet since 23/06/2024

from what I can see, softsnail got cought up in the Satisfactory 1.0 release 😄

[gray sand]

-# Imagine not being retired... 😏 💛

[near furnace]

🤔

[gray sand]

I saw that.

[near furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/tiny-text-cant-see-ken-jeong-gif-5957945

wrong text

[gray sand]

OMG Smiffe are you using the Discord built-in gifs?

Instead of having a 6 GB "memes" folder on your desktop???

[near furnace]

*600

[regal spoke]

I spoke to Germ recently. I forgot about the tile run. What a unique challenge!

[light moat]

Oh cool! Yeah it was pretty interesting; I think he was the only one doing something like that lol.

[regal spoke]

I never seen anyone doing a run like that

[light moat]

I’m sure we’ll see a lot of familiar faces when 1.0 drops. It’ll probably be crazy in this Discord tbh. Might need another Valheim chat channel 😂

[near furnace]

yes

every one of our regulars will go hide in #valheim-public-test 😄

[regal spoke]

I constantly recommend the game. I look forward to Valheim blowing up

[near furnace]

worse than we even got?

like 502k players at the same time 😄

[regal spoke]

That would be wild. But well deserved

[pliant radish]

IIdk why I just tried to take on a dverger tower before fighting moder

[regal spoke]

Challenge your limits. Never limit your challenges. o7

[pliant radish]

I actually won
but I died doing so

[regal spoke]

Valheim will surely see over a million easy no?

That's awesome eyeball

[pliant radish]

crazy that the peak was 3 years ago when the game is currently better than its ever been

[regal spoke]

Idk I prefer og bonemass though ;p

I remember early BM damage

[shy marlin]

I prefer OG fulings tbh

circling ai is cool but its gotten old and predicatable

wish the seekers would've not circled like they did on ptb 😔

[near furnace]

oh yeah

[regal spoke]

Is mob ai capable of tactical combat

[nocturne wolf]

I think enemies should circle but only if there are too many targeting one player.

[near furnace]

with over 13 million sales since 2024... we will easily see over 1 million players at the same time trying out 1.0

[regal spoke]

Incredible numbers. Love to see it.

[regal spoke]

Imagine a few flank wide to attack from the rear

[light moat]

Are you excited for 1.0? 👀

[regal spoke]

We are

[plush umbra]

i never even was employed

[near furnace]

scared and exited 😄

[obtuse cloud]

hi smiffe, remember me? owo

[near furnace]

yeah. early 2024

[obtuse cloud]

yup

im starting my valheim arc 2025

[light moat]

Best of luck!

Here’s hoping your first cultist drops a trophy 🍀

[wanton night]

Anyone tryna party up on valheim?

[tacit crystal]

You can look up there https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1024264966712340510

[thick hull]

My 3rd cultist I killed dropped me a trophy

[junior spoke]

o/

[robust delta]

howdy

[junior spoke]

newish too valheim 2 r ya?

[robust delta]

nah. i've played through it a few times

[junior spoke]

cool.. gotten to the queen once.. lol.. my friend has like 2500+ days on on eof his games now tho 😛

love the build u can do a LOT .. i wnet hammer mode built a complex an d now jus running thru the game

[clear comet]

honestly is it weird that most of my fun is just

jumping into a random player's world, help them kill bosses, and bail

[noble axle]

is it best to use either the full Ask Set or Full Flametal set? (mix and match does not give any bonus except only -5% movement speed from main wep)

[robust delta]

up to u whether you want the ask's endurance set bonus or more defense. personally i like more def so would run flametal with that one cool armored cap, but i know a guy that prefers the mobility and utility of ask set

[cosmic igloo]

imo ask set not having move speed penalty + various stamina usage decreases + still having solid armor makes it better than flametal, but both works on normal difficulty

[nocturne wolf]

Ask set + feather cape

[gray sand]

Ask Set + Ash Cape

[craggy niche]

Flametal for mixed sets. Ask if you really want that full set bonus, which isn't great outside of solo normal imho.