valheim-chat

[wispy path]

tar pits are a great way to get blackmetal early

[pliant hatch]

Reaching isn't the problem.
Moder's drop is required to craft some "workbenches" and / or its items to process into the better food and even the last tier ship.
You can make it into Ashlands without, but with that ship, the journey is a lot less heating things.

[long locust]

I'm fully aware how moder's drop works

doesn't mean that you can't progression skip though, hell you can get Krom and Arbalest without killing any bosses

[pliant hatch]

And I seriously doubt it's a good idea to fight any of the monsters in the biomes after the mountains on Swamp / mountain tier food.

[crude sparrow]

why?

I see mosquito
I scream
I calculate
I kill it

[long locust]

well the obvious answer is because it's highly likely to get you killed, but denying the possibility of progression skipping is ridiculous

[pliant hatch]

Because you will encounter monsters that are able to one hit kill you if you run with that low amount of health

[vocal rivet]

Did someone deny the existance of progession skipping?

[crude sparrow]

You can get +100hp with swamp food. Is it low for Plains for example?

[long locust]

150ish is the bare minimum I'd recommend for plains

[pliant hatch]

I'm not denying it.
I'm just explaining why it isn't a good idea to skip killing Moder.
That's a big difference.

If Matter wants to go on and fight Fader on Mushrooms, Raspberry and Honey only, that's fine with me.
I don't think it's a good idea, but it's still fine with me.

[vocal rivet]

Yeah, for newer players, progression skipping is a really daft suggestion.

[long locust]

I never suggested progression skipping

they asked what was possible to do without killing bosses and I answered

[gritty mulch]

Would anyone like to start a new world with me? Have a deep need for a fresh start

[foggy glacier]

best to ask in #1024264966712340510

[gritty mulch]

okie, thanks! ❤️

[pliant hatch]

If you want to do that, you will find great allies in the mountains. Which will even follow you when sailing as they can swim as long as you don't go too fast. Because if they can jump overboard, they will jump overboard.

However, you will need larger numbers of them when hitting mistlands and most likely even more in Ashlands.
You might find new allies in the plains and in Ashlands to help you.

Biggest problem is that none of these allies will follow you inside caves or some buildings; which means you can't fight none of the mini-bosses, wouldn't be able to gather much gold until you find a way to get trolls killed with those allies and thus will have a hard time to get the Meginjord, Dvergr Circlet and even a common fishing rod and bait; which are very useful later in the game.
Also, getting serpent meat will be quite hard and that will provide you with one of the best foods for the first three biomes.
Even feasts will be complicated to get, as it means killing animals. Only fish may be possible to gather as they wash ashore once in a while.

[flat vector]

Speedruns are crazy, i watched a ton of them for general strats i could use. Only a handful of times i did some progression skipping just for the hell of it

you could cross the map in a cart if you so please, though im not sure if thats still a thing

[arctic garnet]

if it's the black forest, why does it have blueberries and not blackberries

[pliant hatch]

For the same reason the meadows don't have horses and cows: because the devs liked it better this way

[arctic garnet]

we already have horses: Scarlet and I.

[arctic garnet]

i actually never really wondered why, but why are the devs so adamant against horses? I would guess because they don't want to have to animate swinging a weapon from horseback and people are gonna want that? Or riding/mounted combat doesn't fit the game's combat flow

[pliant hatch]

I dunno exactly, but we can't "officially" fight while riding a Lox.
Perhaps the animation combo would be too complicated?

[merry pebble]

I think you would have to ask devs themselves if you want their reason

[arctic garnet]

I'm sure there's more reason to it than whatever is the reason we can't tilt our swings up/down by just 15 degrees

[wispy path]

it's never as easy as just "adding a horse" - it's the time and resources pulled away from what they're currently doing with their smaller team

[unborn nexus]

enemy: rules for thee but not for me

[wispy path]

you add a horse, then you'd have people complaining they don't work well on boats, they fall into the ocean, they can't take them to new islands, etc

[arctic garnet]

me getting stabbed in the face by a mosquito but my arms can't articulate up two degrees to hit it

[arctic garnet]

we have that with tames now 🤷

[wispy path]

exactly, and people have been complaining for years about it

a horse would just exacerbate the animal transport issue

[foggy crest]

Just use the slope combat fix mod. EZ.

[arctic garnet]

is this going to be a problem or otherwise annoying to implement for online play?

[pliant hatch]

Not everyone wants to play this game using mods.

[arctic garnet]

I consider this a basic feature that shouldn't really need a mod to fix.

[vocal rivet]

Features don't need fixing.

Can't hit opponent? Move to where you can. Simple.

[unborn nexus]

2 star seekers on top of the mine stairwell waiting to turn you into chow;

[vocal rivet]

I guess ranged weapons suddenly stopped existing.

[wispy path]

don't mind derek, he's been like this for years

[arctic garnet]

I'm sorry, but no. I don't consider gamey "i can't swing upwards" workarounds acceptable.

[vocal rivet]

What, entirely reasonable?

[pliant hatch]

It's often overlooked, but with Wolves that problem is a lot less "annoying" as people think as these tames can actually swim.
Trick is to slow down on sailing so they can keep up with you.

I "transported" a pair of 2 star wolves from my main base to a plains area a 1/4 of the map away so I could breed them into an "army" to deal with Yag.

[vocal rivet]

Well, Smiffe is adamant it's not changing, so there's not much we can do about it.

[foggy crest]

I put that guy on ignore a long time ago. 😁

[vocal rivet]

Love you too ❤️

[arctic garnet]

I know, I know. Smiffe seems to hate QoL changes.

[wispy path]

thousands probably have

[vocal rivet]

And thousands more love me, it's the way of the world.

[arctic garnet]

That's fine. But I'm still gonna beat my drum about this because I really don't see a reason why not. Just fifteen degrees. Not like this would cause any exploits or problems and it'd make melee on inclines feel much better than having to shift around for a spot to fight on

[vocal rivet]

Again, just repeating what Smiffe says (I'm not a programmer in any capacity) but I gather it's not as simple as people make out.

[arctic garnet]

It's okay if it's not simple. Sometimes worthwhile things take work.

[vocal rivet]

Yeah, and we've had hundreds of QoL fixes over the last 3 years. It's practically a different game since EA launch.

[arctic garnet]

Item auto stacking is nice for sure, but I really do hope this falls in someone's crosshairs some time.

[pliant hatch]

I doubt it.

AFAIK he's just the one standing between the devs and us.
And I don't think it's fair to dislike the messenger for bringing the bad news, is it?

[wispy path]

at least they changed barley to 50 stacks

[arctic garnet]

oh right, it was how much before? 20?

[unborn nexus]

yeah 20

[wispy path]

yah

[unborn nexus]

it sucked

[dusky oyster]

Hey guys, I am new to valheim and want a new friend i could duo with, or maybe trio, im looking for VC if possible too!

[merry pebble]

#1024264966712340510 😄

[urban mulch]

Smiffe’s been adamant about a lot of things not happening, that have since happened.

[vocal rivet]

As was mentioned before, he doesn't exactly speak for the entire team, he can only speak to what he knows at the time.

[arctic garnet]

yeah, that's why I don't take it as "set in stone"

[vocal rivet]

I'm so glad we're still having this conversation.

[vital umbra]

derek hi

[west pulsar]

Yall someone give me something to do in valheim

[arctic garnet]

Pick something to fist fight.
Roll a log into the water and do some log rolling, staying on it

[odd helm]

-# I see someone's got a title promotion~

[arctic garnet]

to be fair i was just responding to what you said
you kind of
invited the continuation of that conversation

[arctic garnet]

eeeeeeee

[vital umbra]

hi scarlet

[vital umbra]

fill up your flametal chest

[gaunt robin]

hey guys i cant seem to find a world file that we played last night i checked both world and worlds_local the world is there but its not last night date. anyone know why?

i sorted the date modified to latest but the latest there was like 2 days ago

[arctic garnet]

That I am not sure. I think there's a backup history page in file management somewhere?

[unborn nexus]

get your harpoon and get a pet drake

[merry pebble]

Go punch a drake to death 😄 should take you some time

[arctic garnet]

I killed a gjall with a greatsword a few times

[merry pebble]

Next try it with fists 😉

[arctic garnet]

it takes a harpoon and a buttload of stamina

[arctic garnet]

now that just sounds like torture

[merry pebble]

Well if you have nothing else to do like our friend here... 😄

[arctic garnet]

log rolling sounds more fun

[shy marlin]

fight fader on vh without getting hit

[merry pebble]

Also a potential activity, cut down the whole forest only using fallen logs (you can cut the first tree with axe to get started ofc)

[arctic garnet]

...
Plant trees at the bottom of a steep hill and then one oak tree at the top, and play tree bowling

chop down the oak tree and see if you can get a strike as it rolls down towards the others

that sounds like a fun terrain modifying project. Build a slightly grooved slope to guide the log towards the other trees as it rolls down

[signal bloom]

so when using iron beams or bars to reinforce structures does it make a difference if its embedded in the material or whether it's affixed to the materials snap point?

[arctic garnet]

dear diary
today i one-shotted a troll with a knife
it was funny

[merry pebble]

Not really, as long as it touches the hitbox it will provide support

[signal bloom]

sick thanks

[humble vortex]

L opinion

mods are the lifeblood of indie games like these

you can always find something that will make the game more fun

[vital umbra]

ewwwwww

now thats an L opinion, 1200 vanilla hours says completely otherwise.

[humble vortex]

oh you poor person

get off your imaginary high horse and go and try some mods

[vital umbra]

i mean for your attitude alone absolutely not

[odd helm]

Easy now

[vital umbra]

Yes, Indeed.

Heres the thing, I do not Like mods.

I like the game valheim thats why i have stuck with it for years.

[humble vortex]

you don't seem to understand what opportunities modding offers

[vital umbra]

good for modders, idc i don't like mods.

[humble vortex]

you havent tried any

[vital umbra]

how do you know

[humble vortex]

you said so

[arctic garnet]

Mods are fine, I just feel it's not ideal that too many things be left to them.
or certain things.

[vital umbra]

not going to try them either

lol

[humble vortex]

100% true and valid

[arctic garnet]

actually I haven't really tried modded Valheim, I wonder what there is

[humble vortex]

modding tools are important to let the community give players the opportunity to make the experience more fun for their particular playstyle

[vital umbra]

yeah i'm not arguing against that but i also like valheim personally, and i dont care 🥴

i don't care who uses mods

[humble vortex]

thats hectic bro

[vital umbra]

glad you feel that way 🐦

[arctic garnet]

i... would really like an extra bright lantern on the prow of my longship for coastal maneuvering in heavy fog. especially if i'm trying not to ground myself

[humble vortex]

the valheim devs seem to have a specific vision of how they want the game to function, so accessible modding is important to let players adjust the game to the way they want to enjoy it

e.g. slope combat

[arctic garnet]

jesus don't get me started

[vital umbra]

I like the devs vision of it, and i play it.

[arctic garnet]

I already had my rant, you can scroll up to it if you want, but suffice it to say I'd prefer that not be something you need to mod to address.

[vital umbra]

if you're so angry about vanilla valheim then why are you in the devs official server for it lol 😭

i appreciate sooo much the work they've put in, and they have conjured up what might be my favorite game 🧡

[arctic garnet]

because i think amending this particular thing is a good idea that may help the gameplay experience of more people than just i so i pressure and suggest for it because i like the game and want the best for it.

[vital umbra]

idk what you were talking about and idrc mod the game if you want 🤷

I, Do not care, if people want to mod it or not, but if you're going to argue with me a vanilla enjoyer if something is better or not i will argue back..

[arctic garnet]

Maybe it's a difference of perspective. Maybe more people than I think consider the awkwardness of fighting on a slope somehow fitting for Valheim; I've been finding it more and more annoying.

[vital umbra]

Its just valheim for me.

[arctic garnet]

I do not understand why we don't want this changed with how sincerely I feel like this is something not functioning the way it should be
but i guess it is

[astral prism]

I think as long as youre having a good time it doesnt matter how you play the game 🙂

[humble vortex]

has anyone suggested making polearms like spears, atgeir etc. have the unique ability to thrust down slopes

[vital umbra]

well yeah

[arctic garnet]

Overall, yes, it's still workable, but I do consider it worth doing, for some areas more than others. Looking at you, Mistlands

[astral prism]

the only thing id ask for a change is the early introduction of eitr in the game and eitr food and early magic.

[vital umbra]

its really just a positioning thing, it feeels like most of this conversation is in the context of the mistlands

ehhhhh

[astral prism]

so youre not leveling a skill literally from level one so late in thje game

[humble vortex]

it seemed obvious to me that you should be able to skewer leeches with a long pointy stick from safety but you cant

[arctic garnet]

Mistlands has a heavy part in it, but any biome can have enough variation to throw an attack over or under and you can still get hit.

Leeches I have an admittedly surprisingly easy time with considering the way melee works. Maybe I'm used to gaming the elevation, but it still feels, well, gamey
like when you're aiming in a sidescroller shooter and the character only aims straight horizontally, like Metal Slug or something.

[rain flare]

Valheim combat has always been janky on slopes
You learn to work with it since we are still in early access

I wouldn’t be surprised if the team fix up a few things like that by 1.0

[humble vortex]

okay but the early access part isnt relevant if there arent any publicly mentioned long term plans to work on it

[rain flare]

But it is better to apply that sort of fix after you’ve added all the basics

[arctic garnet]

Early access or no, I know many things have been attended to and I do like it. Maybe this particular thing isn't as pressing.

[humble vortex]

in gamedev integral systems like the combat are usually the first thing you have to get absolutely right before working on content so it seems like a strange outlier

[arctic garnet]

it'd feel weird seeing this fix packaged with the last boss and full release

[vital umbra]

really makes you think doesnt it

[arctic garnet]

for me that is
because i'd feel like I had the wrong impression about them not caring about it at all

[rain flare]

I am quite sure the team will invest every effort to push the game to excellence in all areas - especially combat and building - as those are some of the main features ❤️

[vital umbra]

hi sildar

[arctic garnet]

It's true, I feel most at home building my village and finding something to parry and then slap into next week.

[humble vortex]

to me it seems like the mojang case where the dev team is reluctant to change it since it could have far-reaching impacts on the combat experience

there are definitely a lot of cheese strategies it makes available since the enemy ai isn't programmed to back off

[rain flare]

Look at how patiently and meticulously they have worked on the other items ingame - we didn’t get this far for no reason

[rain flare]

Heyo Obi! 👋🤩🥳

[arctic garnet]

I said I wouldn't go on my ramble again but it feels I already did. Anyways, I've had it in my head that just 15 degrees of up/down angling would be enough for those just-out-of-reach elevations without introducing (many) situations where you can melee an enemy that can't melee back.

[humble vortex]

is there somewhere where a dev has commented on slope combat saying "yes this is the intended experience"?

[rain flare]

For mojang it kinda makes sense since it is a VERY simple game, but for Valheim all you really need is an axis swivel so you can attack or defend yourself based on how your character is standing

[arctic garnet]

i would be very annoyed if they just flat said "never gonna change this" but it wouldn't be a deal breaker.

[vital umbra]

they've said that about alot of things and some of them not true i feel

no idea, just wait to see what they'll do pretty much.

[rain flare]

Right now your character returns to a default position that is quite awkward considering it treats you as being on a flat surface and you are on a 45-90 degree incline

[rain flare]

Nope - hence I am sure they will look into it

[tiny tiger]

The axe middle attack is perfect against leeches

[humble vortex]

they could just explain that viking helmet technology restricts vision to only seeing enemies on a level field or above

[tiny tiger]

Same with mace middle attack tbh

And spear throw also works lol, so there’s options

[humble vortex]

using a spear throw on that is a bad idea

[tiny tiger]

I mean if it’s in the middle of the water yeah but when they’re by the edge and you can pick it back up easily then it’s no issue

It would be nice if the abyssal knife came with the perk of being able to use it while in water

Gives it a unique twist and it’s around the time you start exploring swamps if you are fortunate enough to stumble upon a leviathan

[arctic garnet]

I know we're supposed to use ships to handle water and the intention is clear through our very limited swimming endurance, but like... diving in and stabbing a serpent to death with a knife sounds absolutely Beowulf as hell and I wanna do that.

[vital umbra]

christ on a cross gjalls are so fucking annoying to fight with magic

[wispy path]

just keep arby on you

[vital umbra]

wat

[wispy path]

keep the arbelest on you, works great as a mage fighting gjall

[vital umbra]

thats not a mage weapon

[wispy path]

you're right, but it's the best option 😄

[vital umbra]

well i know but im a mage

why are my skeletts trying to aggro on my chickens

[nocturne wolf]

Maybe they’re a bit hungry

[fallen zephyr]

I've seen skeletons. They look like they haven't eaten in forever!

[cosmic igloo]

ok how tf are you supposed to make corner roof with grausten

[nocturne wolf]

The corners are made of two separate pieces

[tiny tiger]

I recommend adding them to the ends to flare the roof out too I think it would look really cool

Like a triangle out if you get what I mean

[exotic bramble]

i killed eikthyr guys

[tiny tiger]

Good job dude hope you’re ready for the Bronze Age it’s a lot of fun

[wispy path]

yah, enjoy meadows and black forest! because first time in the swamp can be pretty brutal 😄

[tiny tiger]

Bronze buckler and mace for swamp works well however you can’t go wrong with any of the bronze tier weapons tbh

[west pulsar]

Kinda based

[west pulsar]

How the hell am i gonna stop it from blowing its cage up

[west pulsar]

For what reason i already have every ashlands weapon and they're completely maxed

[cosmic igloo]

all i managed to do was a big /\ roof

[tiny tiger]

That works

[silent mural]

VALHEIM -1 ME- 0, SOLO vanilla is to much hahaha

[rain flare]

Watched the glorious beauty that is the mistlands trailer 🥰
SO GOOD!

Love going throw the old animations

[final bloom]

Where u at in game? Doing Plains? Or did u reach AShlands?

[lunar sapphire]

It comes out soon, so excited for mistlands!

[silent mural]

nope swamp. haha. yeah sad.

[pliant hatch]

Wait! Mistlands is coming out soon?
And I got to work. Blast it! 😦

[vital umbra]

...........why not?

for what reason do you decide to start gaming, decide to install steam, decide to buy valheim, decide everything in valheim, its all novelty, life is that 🌟

There is no reason needed for anything

[wispy path]

it's icky outside 😦

[vital umbra]

Entirely valid enough

I will fill a chest of flametal for the reason of, Because i choose to do so.

[fallen zephyr]

You've just started playing?

[opal prairie]

Finally I can say something here.
Afternoon gjall.
That really doesn't roll of the tongue the same Morgning gjall does.

[fair cairn]

did you get muted?

[opal prairie]

Work has been a female dog.

[fair cairn]

wording it like that really does make me think you got muted for saying that

[opal prairie]

I wasn't though. The moment I got to work it was one thing after the other and it seems its not done yet.
Got to go again.

[fair cairn]

good luck and dont overwork

[fallen zephyr]

I find "Hi" works well ;P

[steel mica]

mountain biome really good for getting stone

plains is dangerous with silver gear

[fallen zephyr]

The easiest stone is in Plains but, yes, don't try it in silver gear.

[steel mica]

the spikey ones in the mountains are the best because you can just cut the bottom part just like the stone pillars in the plains

[fallen zephyr]

I didn't say best, I said easiest. For time invested, I'm still arguing for Plains.

[vital umbra]

hi

[steel mica]

true, the mountains can be a good alternative if your plains biome is out of stone pillars

[fallen zephyr]

Hello there!

[steel mica]

just at the cost of alittle bit extra time

[tiny tiger]

Silver gear with root chest is more than good enough for plains lol???

10 damage from deathsquitos, like 30-40 from fulings

[opal prairie]

It should be.

[tiny tiger]

Just gotta watch out for tars and nearby berserkers or a sneak shaman or torch fuling

like padded at lvl 1 is maxed wolf armor

[steel mica]

yes it is certainly enough

[cosmic summit]

why does it rain every time i start working on building a dock? 😦

[idle storm]

shamans always open with the shield afaik so one sneaking up on you is more or less impossible.

[tiny tiger]

Maybe the gods are telling you to put a roof over your dock lol

[cosmic summit]

a roof wont help me lay the stone foundation from a raft while waves are tossing me all over

[tiny tiger]

Ah fair enough just wanted to include it just in case, in my experience I’ve only ever been assassinated by nearby tar while mining for rocks in the plains

how about make the main part above the waves and have the side ones coming in lower, I’m guessing you want to be able to easily access the ship storage from the dock?

[cosmic summit]

i keep wasting stone because i'll go to lay a block and a wave will cause it to move right as i click. then when i dismantle the stone sinks

[opal prairie]

Is the water particularly deep? If not use the hoe to first raise it up a bit, maybe you can do it with the waves bringing you low enough.

[lofty rivet]

I’m super early game, just defeated the first boss, what’s the best way to farm the scraps from boars?

[idle storm]

Explore more meadows for boar runestones and abandoned villages. Or tame boars and breed them. Starred boars if you can. You can feed them raspberries and mushrooms.

[lofty rivet]

Thanks, appreciate that

[opal prairie]

For me the easiest way to tame boars is making a pit, floor over it, lure boar on it, destroy floor so boar drops down, toss in food, floor over it again, run away and sneak back and wait.
Works for all the tameables.

[steel mica]

cant you parry a boar with your fist and it stuns it?

[opal prairie]

Don't know, doesn't help with taming though, as long as the boars are agitated they won't tame.

[idle storm]

instead of the floor method you can also just shove them in with a shield. Though their damage is low enough that a palisade wall works fine too, a pit is only necessary for wolves and upwards.

[torpid linden]

is the any chance to get boar with 2 star ?

[plush umbra]

if it randomly spawned more than 800 meters from the world's center, there's a 1% chance for each boar to be a 2-star.
within 800 meters, only boars that spawned from a boar runestone or abandoned village can have stars, which never respawn.

[merry pebble]

Oh it applies to the village spawns too? 👀

[opal prairie]

For more info: https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Boar#Spawning

[merry pebble]

Yeah, wiki has it, never noticed that 😅

[plush umbra]

boar runestone boars are more common/plentiful so people tend to forget about the village ones

[merry pebble]

Yep, can confirm 😄 i just did exactly that xD

[violet pelican]

Guys, am I the only shocked how bad roundpole fences are?

[warm sandal]

I always use them to tame boars in such a pen... never found them bad 😄

i just buld a small pen, lure them in close it up and then throw food and go a way 😄

[tiny tiger]

Damn I always murder the rune boars

[violet pelican]

idk but they're pretty aukward to deal with, they don't snap together and they're inclined down, they're not straight

[tiny tiger]

It’s just meant to give a rough looking fence look

[warm sandal]

yeah they are meant to be that way so you can place them like you want them and they are super useful for taming boar 😄

[idle storm]

if you want a proper straight fence just build one out of wood beams.

[opal prairie]

Change direction each time, make a zigzag pattern.

[warm sandal]

i never dug a pit to tame them, just use them fences 😄

[tiny tiger]

Yeah the fences do fine for boars

[violet pelican]

Idk i think they should be like straight fences, kinda like minecraft or something you know?

[warm sandal]

no try to do that with wolves mind you...not even stone is sturdy enough to keep them in... pit needed for wolves

[warm sandal]

I like them a lot adds visual interest - if everything was just straight up and down it would be boring

[violet pelican]

Hm then maybe add 26 and 45 degree versions?

[warm sandal]

they can be used to block windows so you can see throug but the bats are kept out too ... did that for a chicken coop 😄

[violet pelican]

Really though my main problem isn't even the fences, it's that they don't snap together in a well, satisfying way, you have to align them, unlike wooden beams or whatnot

[steel mica]

i mean the boars will get agitated one way or the other what i meant is parrying the boar near the hole and when its stunned kíck it into the hole

[warm sandal]

well you can always use beams and posts to make a straight fence that snapps in place - you are not required to use them if you do not like them 😄

[violet pelican]

Yeah I guess that's a solution but if you can make a game better you should, prob gonna put this in a suggestion somewhere. I feel games can be so much better with even the tiniest details being fixed

[opal prairie]

Also possible, you do need to know how to parry though and for a first time player that is not always evident and the timing is something you need to learn.

[steel mica]

for a new player yeah for experienced players this is the fastest way to get the boar in the hole

parry and kick the bastard in the hole

[warm sandal]

if that would make the game better to change them fences is debateable... there are people that like them just the way they are... opinions are free... but i do not think it would be better if it was changed 😄

[tiny tiger]

Instead of changing them why not just add more fence types

[violet pelican]

I mean seeing the game is still not finished, it's pretty safe to assume everything isn't perfect still, including fences, i think they could probably make a better model aswell. One with 2 poles, one on each side and sticks between

That's also another solution, but then you don't want to add too much, otherwise building will be overwhelming and then it becomes minecraft

[warm sandal]

they said they will make changes to every biome for the 1.0 but it is everybodies guess what that will be - so... possible... we do not know... i'd prefer them like they are - they could add other types or not ... we will have to wait and see

[tiny tiger]

More build pieces are always welcome, though I could see there being benefit from making it more manageable as more pieces are added

[violet pelican]

I think I like the building the way it is. You have to be more creative with how you build stuff because of the limitations

[tiny tiger]

Finewood fences would serve well as the neat fences you want

the generic Minecraft style fences

[violet pelican]

I think adding a few new things for every biome would be good. AND i'd really like if they added seeds for blueberry and raspberry bushes

[tiny tiger]

Unless they decide to go another route assuming they even add more fence types

[warm sandal]

Right now i am thinking real hard about what "Run" to start next for my video recording... so hard to decicide...got a lot of ideas and can not do them all 😦

[violet pelican]

Yeah, although I think corewood would make more sense you know? Fences need to be strong and all

[tiny tiger]

What idea sounds the most fun to you out of the ones you have

That would probably make for the best video

Either most fun or most challenging

[warm sandal]

I have a list of 8 possible Series with different difficulty and restrictions and so on... some for more building centered videos some for more gameplay centered ideas... if i knew what sounded most appealing i would not have to think so hard... I think all of them are nice ideas and would make interesting videos... sigh

i will have to chew a little more on that i guess 😄

[tiny tiger]

Do you wanna share them and I can help you choose what I think? I think asking a large variety of people would benefit to see what would engage people the most

[warm sandal]

If you want to invest the time i would DM you and we can talk it out out there and not clutter up the chat here?

[wheat stirrup]

there are abominations with stars ?

[tiny tiger]

Sure, my dms are open

I’m yet to encounter one

Do starred trolls only spawn within a certain radius away from spawn?

If so then maybe the same would apply to abominations

[flat vector]

There might be xD Dunno honestly, seems likely. havent seen one myself tho.

[merry pebble]

Nope

[near furnace]

yes

[cosmic igloo]

damn its weird but mistwalker is so good on melee vh. the fast swing time, the slow, the spirit dmg. all of that is so valuable

[near furnace]

stared monsters isn't allowed to spawn within a certain radius from the starting temple

[tiny tiger]

Can you confirm the existence of starred abominations?

[near furnace]

does not exist

[tiny tiger]

I see, thank you

[near furnace]

some monsters don't have stared versions

[merry pebble]

Imagine starred deathsquito xD

[near furnace]

yeah 😄

[tiny tiger]

Is there a reason for it? Game balancing or to be added etc

[near furnace]

2 star deathsquito. probably kills the human behind the monitor

[near furnace]

amongst other things

abominations are just a rare monster, that stared versions doesn't really make much sence

[merry pebble]

Most likely, and that humans immediate family probably too

[wide topaz]

I wish to breed abominations

[near furnace]

and all a stared version would do is gatekeep parts of the world from players 😄

[wide topaz]

then, I will ride them

[tiny tiger]

Makes sense

[wide topaz]

we got the dreadlock elephants, and the lava doggos, it's time to ride eldritch horrors

[near furnace]

🤔

wierd names

[nocturne wolf]

I tried riding a volture earlier and probably reached the height of a pine tree before I slid off

[near furnace]

😄

[cosmic summit]

when breaking stone pillars in the plains do chisle away at the bottom or dig underneat it?

[cosmic igloo]

chisel away at bottom

[nocturne wolf]

I just discovered that if you jump against a biting morgen you can get launched very far

[cosmic summit]

i dug out the entire bottom. it didnt break, so i chisled off the bottom of the rock and its still here... i might chisle a bit higher then build a base on the side of a giant floatin grock

posted a picture in the screenshots channel

[tiny tiger]

Hmm keep chiselling away at the bottom and it should eventually break, also maybe make some more space around the closest point to the ground before you do so

[cosmic summit]

it broke

[tiny tiger]

It’s just the hitboxes, they are bigger than they appear

[hearty niche]

Are they? It feels like they're slightly rarer than trolls.

[cedar sparrow]

Rare?? I seem to find them without effort 🤣

[odd helm]

They're always super rare when you're hunting for them

[merry pebble]

I would say they are quite a bit rarer than trolls (maybe the spawn requirements are a bit stricter) i certainly find way less of them compared to trolls 🙂

[cedar sparrow]

True

[odd helm]

Trolls also have the advantage of having a poi that nearly guarantees a spawn for them, I think that skews the numbers in their favor~

No such thing for aboms

[nocturne wolf]

Two spawns, even

[plush umbra]

-# i've never had trouble with either

[merry pebble]

I think that both inside and outside trolls around the troll caves have 33% chance of spawning iirc

[plush umbra]

iirc it was 33% for outside, 75% for inside

[teal matrix]

Oh wait, so caves do have a chance of not spawning a troll/morgen?

👀

[merry pebble]

At least for trolls yes, and i imagine it could be similar to morgens

[gray sand]

Reason I build Bronze Armor is troll rarity.
Reason I almost never have Root armor is Abom rarity.

Oddly, I have really good luck with building the Fenris set.

[plush umbra]

yea i haven't checked for morgen caves, but so far i haven't seen one without a morgen in it, the spawn is just very delayed sometimes

[cedar sparrow]

I have a knack for finding troll caves. Just need to build a forest base, amd bingo, I find a troll cave happens to be nearby 🤣

[teal matrix]

Facts actually. A friend and I had nearly fully looted a putrid hole, then I was smacking the meat piles and it popped outta the ground and smoked us cuz we where cornered

[near furnace]

yes

[odd helm]

Hecc, if anything the time it normally would take me to gather enough bronze for an armor set is more than getting enough for a troll set

[plush umbra]

fully upgraded even

heck i often have troll pieces before i get any metal at all

[cedar sparrow]

Yeah. The second that pickaxe hits the ore is when trolls come alive

[kindred hare]

so this is what i dont understand.
I fight bonemass. i get 3/4th health taken if i get hit.
It takes a billion years to regen even a handful of points. wtf do i do

[merry pebble]

Get health mead 🙂

[gray sand]

I am a quick miner. 😁

[plush umbra]

got poison resistance, good food and the rested buff?

[kindred hare]

yea

[cedar sparrow]

You using poison resist mead? Heath mead?

[odd helm]

Hey, whatever works for ya~

[kindred hare]

i staarded a health mead i can go get it. wasnt sure if it would cancel the other mead buff

[cedar sparrow]

Nah

Before any boss fight you should be rested and have meads prepared. And don't fight at night when it's cold.

[kindred hare]

will bonemass despawn if i take too long.

[cedar sparrow]

Nope. He'll just regain health

[merry pebble]

Nope, but all mobs including bosses regen at rate of 100% hp per hour (and it will accelerate if you sleep)

[kindred hare]

hes not down too much. so no big deal

[cedar sparrow]

What weapon are you using?

[idle storm]

block his melee attacks
run out of the poison vomit
kill adds ASAP to avoid being overwhelmed

[kindred hare]

iron mace. if i need to i have stagbreaker too

[merry pebble]

Iron mace is great 🙂

[gray sand]

Block? A boss?
Are you nuts? 😂

[cedar sparrow]

Make sure you have the best shield you can, so you can parry

[kindred hare]

blocking his melee only does a little. no reason. cant seem to parry him

[merry pebble]

Why? You can

[gray sand]

Why would you waste the stamina?

[merry pebble]

Bosses cant be staggered 🙂

[idle storm]

easily doable on normal

[gray sand]

Pointless on all difficulties.

[kindred hare]

banded shield. so was considering going to a tower, since no parry

[gray sand]

Dodging costs less stamina and is zero damage vs. More stamina and still taking damage.

[idle storm]

it levels your blocking skill, so not entirely
but yeah, sword & board is mostly for people who enjoy playing s & b, not because it's necessary or the most effective

[cedar sparrow]

It still allows you to stay close enough to hit back, instead of running out of range

[kindred hare]

dodging wwas working better. im just not good at it

[cedar sparrow]

That'll work too. But that also needs stamina

[kindred hare]

yea. thats the biggest deal

[idle storm]

banded shield is enough to block Bonemass, no reason to eat the speed penalty for a tower shield

[cedar sparrow]

Stamina meads are your friend

[kindred hare]

yea i have a minor one fermenting

[cedar sparrow]

If all else fails, load up on arrows and range attack him

[tiny tiger]

holy my bog witch swamp has 13 crypts (so far) and 2 surtling spawners within like 20m from eachother

im in iron and coal heaven rn

[cedar sparrow]

Oooh, sweet!! Build yourself a nice smelter yard near the spawners

[idle storm]

if you can't handle Bonemass you are not ready for the mountains imo. Also overrelying on bows just screws you once you reach Mistlands.

[tiny tiger]

i usually get around 60-80 iron per crypt so im estimating a minimum 700 iron in this swamp if i get lucky

[kindred hare]

ive already beat him once. a while ago.

[cedar sparrow]

I like my bow, and do very well in the Mistlands with one

Though I do like knives and swords also

Whatever works at any given time

[kindred hare]

whats the point of knives.

[cedar sparrow]

Cue a handful of stupidly underproductive crypts, now you've said that 🤣

[cedar sparrow]

Speed

[odd helm]

Quick stabby, decent parry multiplier, pierce/slash split damage pretty versatile

[idle storm]

no speed penalty, low sta cost, high attack speed, no forward movement when attacking. Also 6x backstab modifier and a long-range secondary with high damage & stagger.

[kindred hare]

but say, you get 3 swings per 1 sword swing. the dmg of those 3 would have to outdo the 1 swing of a sword to matter right?

[cedar sparrow]

The abyssal razor has to be my favourite early game weapon

[kindred hare]

i think i have stuff for htat.
i have the shell thingies

these potions def help with bonemass

[odd helm]

Low animation commitment too, you can roll out of the way faster after a knife attack than a sword attack

[cedar sparrow]

Make it and upgrade it. It's worth it

[kindred hare]

oh good point

[odd helm]

Oh, wait, in the context of bonemass knives might not be super useful for you?

High pierce damage resistance

[idle storm]

mace all the way for Bonemass

[cedar sparrow]

True. Not for Boney. But worth it for entering the mountains

[plush umbra]

x0.5 slash, x0.25 pierce, yea 😅

[odd helm]

Oof, yeh~

[kindred hare]

yea not this time. but for later. i only made it to hador or whatver. the dragon. last i played. but pc was garbo so my pc started to not have enough fps for the swamps and mountains with rain

[cedar sparrow]

Or skip Boney and go Mountains. Use stagbreaker to find silver. Make Frostner, and THEN do Boney. Piece of piss with Frostner!

[kindred hare]

just killed hi

[cedar sparrow]

Sweet!!

[azure yacht]

Better to not recommend tier skipping for people still getting familiar with the game...

[kindred hare]

im familiar. just been ages, and i was not paying attention the first time. so the mechanics of meads i didnt know

otherwise i do.

[cedar sparrow]

Well, you succeeded in your mission.

[idle storm]

in this case there's pretty much zero harm in it. If anything it's safer since killing Bonemass also unlocks wolf raids. And the wishbone is a waste of an inventory slot, at least you can get some other use out of a hammer.

[cedar sparrow]

Bonemess unlocks so much crap

Raid-wise

[idle storm]

yes. like bats.

[cedar sparrow]

Anyway, he's a gamer. More than I was when I started playing. His comments tell me that much

Bats are so irritating! Unless you're near a surtling spawner. Then they're fun 🤣

[idle storm]

just avoiding Those Damn Bats for a little longer is worth not killing him

[cedar sparrow]

My friend made a base around two surtling spawners. If he had a raid, he kited the enemies to the flames

[keen cliff]

you can also do the same with a bonfire

[cedar sparrow]

Yup. But you don't need any mats for a spawner

[idle storm]

braziers hung under your roof corners and ashwood spikes on your walls work too. A base in a charred fortress pretty much autokills bat raids because of the spikes it comes with.

[cedar sparrow]

I've never had a fortress base. But that's a good reason to do so in the future!

I tend to go for island bases, but that won't stop bats

[kindred hare]

can i do anything with old equpment. like my bronze stuff

[idle storm]

there's not much reason to make one atm but if you can stand the atmosphere they're pretty awesome. Lots of building space too

[cedar sparrow]

Keep it for tombstone runs

[idle storm]

basically you can just slap down some grausten floors over the outer walls and you already have a funtional base that's as safe as it gets in Ashlands.

[cedar sparrow]

Yeah. I had plans to do one, but never got around to doing it

[teal matrix]

We're doing something similar but we keep our FOBS pretty simple. Dug a big hole in the middle to tame Askvin. Lol

[cedar sparrow]

When my friend and I return to the Ashlands to get our gear (we died there on a portal free world), I'll have to suggest finding a fortress ASAP

We had to do a run back to our other base, to collect more mats, and we died on our return. Respawned at the base, as we hadn't got a chance to set a spawn point in the Ashlands

[idle storm]

I'd suggest a safehouse on the beach first since valkyries and asksvin don't usually spawn there. So it's slightly safer.

[cedar sparrow]

Not this time it wasn't 🤣

We were mobbed.

I have lots of the wrong kind of luck when it comes to attracting enemies. I once had 4 Valkyries up above, one in each direction

[pliant hatch]

That raid isn't unlocked by killing Bonemass, but by killing bats in Frost Caves.

[idle storm]

Both actually. You can kill all the bats you want and grab Fenris early and never have to worry about bat raids until you kill him.

[cedar sparrow]

Conversely, you can kill Bonemass and still get bat raids, even if you never kill a bat. One only has to be killed on the world in order for the raid to unlock. It doesn't have to be killed by you

A bat just has to fly through a brazier fire and die

[kindred hare]

i forgot how to survive the mountain cold.

[teal matrix]

Fires, frost mead, or a wolf cape

[kindred hare]

how many pelts for wolf cape

[trail pelican]

does shelter stop it alone too? i can't recall--i know going INSIDE the frost caves will

wolf cape also requries silver i think

[kindred hare]

i can survive long enough to get some. the pelts will be harder

[trail pelican]

I'd think silver would be the most timeconsuming, but it's 6 pelts

oh and a trophy--that's an RNG issue

just common enough, could not so unlikely get on getting the 6, but then...RNG jesus frowns upon you...

[kindred hare]

ig i also forget how the wishbone works to see silver.

[trail pelican]

yeah and digging it out and etc., meanwhile you're attracting every golem etc. on the mountain with every pick swing

[wintry valve]

it beeps

[tribal maple]

Sorry, do you know where can i find people to play in valheim ?

[trail pelican]

https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1024264966712340510

[vocal rivet]

#1024264966712340510 should help.

[wintry valve]

equip wishbone, and it beeps faster the closer you are to hidden treasure. Not just silver

[kindred hare]

thx

[trail pelican]

I wish the wishbone added a little necklace with wishbone on it, or something that added a visual little indicator like the strength belt does when equipped--love all those little nice attention to detail touches Valheim so full of

[west pulsar]

#suggestions

[tiny tiger]

Hold on I’ve just had a thought right, plains is the only biome so far without alternative armor, and there’s magic in the plains via the shaman, is there gonna be a sneaky slightly-earlier-than-mistlands mage set as the second set for the plains I wonder

Because I can totally see the shaman having his own unique drops that allow you to craft some weaker version of eitr food as well as some kind of mage weapon and like black metal mage armor

[west pulsar]

I think the mages were a sneek peak into the fact magic exists but you're a norseman and Norsemen dont just have magic which is why you go to the mistlands to get magic yagluth already had the context of being a grand mage

There will be 8 biomes at the end of the game having magic in the last 3 isnt bad

You yourself dont possess magic hence the need for magic food

Well its more accurate to say you don't possess eitr

You have the ability to use magic via a catalyst but no eitr

[gray sand]

There is magic in the Black Forest via the shaman.

[rugged rock]

Hey all! I’ve been loving this game, but the friends I’ve played with always give up just when we are getting into the Plains. I’m really looking for a group that I can play with that I can commit to playing and advancing further than that. Anyone here who is relatively new and looking to figure this game out together with me?

[west pulsar]

Yea but they're trees and one with the earth

[shy marlin]

Can also argue cultists have magic

[pliant hatch]

I'm sure you will find a bunch in https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1024264966712340510

[west pulsar]

Yea true but the type they seem to have is a bit different

[rugged rock]

thank you! 😊

[pliant hatch]

yw. 🙂

[west pulsar]

They seem to get their power via worship to probably fenrir

Which is more like mmm its closer to being a faith based magic like how a classic paladin gets powers of magic through faith cultists operate either via sacrifice or worship in a similar manner hence why they only seem to use fire magic as well

[shy marlin]

magic = magic

[west pulsar]

Yes and no its all magic but why matters

[vocal rivet]

"magic = magic" - D & D would like a word with you.

[west pulsar]

Magic is magic but not all magic is the same

[shy marlin]

Are we playing D & D or are we playing Valheim?

[merry sun]

Anyway, Greydwarf shaman use It "naturally" and many creatures seems to be kinda organic but still fantastic creatures

[west pulsar]

Theres an important distinction there. ( No but even in norse mythology magic isnt all the same flavor why and how matters)

[merry sun]

like spirits should be all Magic? or undead

wrath, ghost, draugr, skeletons

Fallen valk

[west pulsar]

Also remember that most of those enemies are considered shamans not mages again important distinction

[tiny tiger]

My point still stands that plains is the only biome missing additional armor sets

[west pulsar]

That i agree with but magic isn't the solution to me

[tiny tiger]

And it could be an even earlier version of a mage set

Realistically the only other options are the devs don’t plan to implement a second set to the plains or it will be a lighter armor

fenris fulfills the role of light armor for that stage of the game perfectly and it would be a waste to have another light armor

[west pulsar]

I also think magic at that point in the game would either be too strong of basically fall into being useless. Instead i propose a middle ground an armor set that is resistant to blunt but weak in armor

The problem with mid game magic is either it MUST fall off or it's overpowered

Instead make more frostner like weapons with elemental damage in the plains

[tiny tiger]

Well I mean when you get eitr in mistlands it will be immediately replaced

but it would provide an earlier start to levelling up magic

[west pulsar]

Unneeded i say make weapons that do fire and poison within the plains we need more poison type weapons and frostner is plenty good in plains

Make a 2 hand flame axe instance or if not flame at least hot

[tiny tiger]

you have poison arrows from the swamps, draugr fang from swamp/mountains and then the jotun bane immediately after plains in the mistlands

[west pulsar]

Yea thats only 2 weapons and an arrow

Ashlands doesn't count atm because its endgame

But again poison is less versatile so I'd like to see it hit harder

More enemies are resistant or outright immune

[tiny tiger]

Maybe instead of poison a way to inflict the tarred debuff on enemies

Then you could combo that with fire arrows as I’m pretty sure it makes you weak to fire

[west pulsar]

You mean like the paralyzed effect?

Too strong

[tiny tiger]

The tarred effect that tar inflicts

[west pulsar]

Yea it's just a weaker paralyze

[merry sun]

The mid game shouldnt have Magic, only late game

[west pulsar]

I agree but i propose elemental weapons and armor with elemental resistance

[nocturne wolf]

Why do we need these

[west pulsar]

The porcupine was already on the right track.

[vital umbra]

like frostner, root armor and fenris armor 🧐

[west pulsar]

Because its fun idk why you're such a hater to things that can exist because they're fun

[nocturne wolf]

I never said I hate anything, I’m just asking why valheim needs elemental weapons and armor

[west pulsar]

Doesn't always need to be some massive meta grind sometimes i just want to use the fun weapons

[west pulsar]

Because they already exist just make more

[vital umbra]

mistlands opened up the door to more magical things, it feels like its sorta locked behind that for me anyways.

eitr and all that

[west pulsar]

Or give us lighting weapons in plains or even lightning arrows something its such an under used damage type

Its like the devs forgot it existed

[vital umbra]

thaat i do more approve of

[west pulsar]

I still want stronger fire arrows though idk why they are so weak

[vital umbra]

i meaan i remember them being viable enough in the mountains and black forest

they're 'weak' most of the time cuz you craft them in the meadows lol

[west pulsar]

Yea so give us a new one

A better one

[tiny tiger]

Literally tar + fire arrows for an even stronger version would work

[west pulsar]

Actually yea i like that tar

And its at a good point in the game thank you

[tiny tiger]

Hold on do fire arrows set tar pits on fire

I’ve never tested this but I will tomorrow

[west pulsar]

Dont believe so but It doesnt really matter

[shy marlin]

Frostner

[teal matrix]

Mind if I ask you a random question unrelated to Valheim?

[shy marlin]

sure?

[teal matrix]

You the same Scales that was on Argus Saga? 👀

[shy marlin]

nah

[teal matrix]

RIP, oh well.

[pliant hatch]

Not the pits.
But they're quite good vs Growth.
Although the Frost arrows are a bit more useful.

But fire arrows are more fun when fighting those buggers. 😄

[unborn nexus]

thing goes beep
beep goes slow if far, fast if close

it also finds treasure chests in the meadows, scrap piles in the swamps, silver in mountains(it's main use), but it can also locate silver necklaces in said mountains

there's 3 pointed rocks in a circle that can spawn in the mountains

sometimes it spawns empty but it usually comes with a skeleton/necklace

as for scrap piles, they are nice but swamps usually are too flooded to fully dig out the piles

[keen cliff]

it would be fun to have buried easter eggs wishbone could find in later biomes

[pliant hatch]

You never used the wishbone on those areas where the stones are set up to look like a ship's hull?

[wispy path]

those are in later biomes too?

[pliant hatch]

Only in Meadows afaik

[keen cliff]

i mean plains, mistlands, ashlands

if someone is stubborn enough to walk around the ashlands with a wishbone equipped, throw him a bone and let him find something 🙂

1 gold piece and a letter that says: "get a life"

[pliant hatch]

I know what you meant. But like I said, afaik those hull like structures are only found in meadows.
However, occasionally the wishbone is useful when you find a (finewood) ship wreck, but can't see the chest burried near / under it.

[keen cliff]

it's useful for a no-boss run

well, you won't be using the wishbone on those

[unborn nexus]

50/50

sometimes they spawn without a chest, but the stones lining it are great to mine out

[quaint token]

Feel free to join me in vc and my world

[west pulsar]

Y'all should i make an Ashland base over the lava

[pliant hatch]

If you want a base over there, it would be a better idea to pick something very fortified you had to conquer anyway.
Considering the walls are near indestructable it makes a very good base.

[west pulsar]

Yea but thats lame

How much can i build on it

[foggy glacier]

a lot more than you can build on lava.

only way to build over lava is on a stone pillar, then your whole base is at risk

[west pulsar]

Skybase over the lava

Should be possible

[pliant hatch]

Why is it lame?
You should use what you can get in that area. Especially since most buildings over there are made from Grausten and are very easy to be destroyed. Even when having a shield up.

[west pulsar]

Not lame per say but its in the same realm as making terrain walls feel me?

[pliant hatch]

To me it feels more like using a Draugr village as first or permanent base.

But I understand your feelings about it.

[west pulsar]

Well draugr villages are just wood huts not completely unbreakable and cramped cubes i mean IDEALLY what i should do i find one and get in without breaking the gate that way its full proof

Dont give the mobs an entryway

Im curious to see what i can cook up because i want it to be taller

[foggy glacier]

exactly. build up terrain outside a corner to the height of the walltop and jump in.

that's how I always get into charred fortresses.

[foggy glacier]

flametal pillars still sink?

[livid zenith]

I think it was changed to a 1% chance to sink on damage to the flametal nodes

[foggy glacier]

well aren't I the lucky one. got most of it, though.

[livid zenith]

Nvm, wiki says 10%, maybe 1% was a public test thing

[west pulsar]

I legit hate getting flametal

[livid zenith]

I only mine one or two laviathans, after I have gear I get flametal from fortresses which are a lot more fun

[west pulsar]

Yea I'll be honest I have the unpopular opinion of not liking the Ashlands that much

[livid zenith]

I really enjoy most of Ashlands, but flametal veins and some of the gem balancing I’m not a fan of

[west pulsar]

I wish the weapons did more elemental damage not 10 like idgaf if its 20 less physical if that means i get 40 lightning damage

Instead they feel like glorified colors

[west pulsar]

My ranking overall that means looks enemies terrain weapons etc overall

Mountain
Meadows
Plains
Swamp
Ashlands
Black Forest
Mistlands

The only reason BF is lower than ash is Because the progression of copper and tin is just blehhhhh and looks wise it does the job but its just a darker meadows ngl

Mistlands is so pretty but it SUFFERS from insanely annoying terrain to navigate going into that biome isn't fun but I'll note that the weapons are my favorite in the game

Mistwalker and the demolisher just slap and the konan krom is cool

Mountain to me gets nothing wrong i have only one bad thing to say about it and that's the caves are kinda bland and boring to go through i wish more was done with them

Otherwise the mountain has my 3rd favorite boss my favorite weapon frostner i love the progression and look of wolf armor i like the looks the best

[wispy path]

with the new meads, the mountains are much better

and the jumping mead for mistlands is great too

mistlands is by far my fav, if you can find a clearing with a tower in it, you can have yourself a beautiful base

i wish i still had my pics, but i lost them when the valheim server got hacked 😦

[west pulsar]

Mistlands is gorgeous i just hate walking through it mate

[west pulsar]

I mean the new meads feel like gimmicks ngl

They dont feel THAT useful idk if I'll be going out of my way to bring them on a sail journey

[wispy path]

what? weight mead, anti-sting, running mead, jumping mead?

they're awesome, especially in areas where you're doing a lot of those things

[west pulsar]

Anti sting is for mosquitos the easiest enemy in the game. Running mead sure cuts time. Jumping i guess but i rarely use jumps spacing is eaiser

But seriously mosquitoes are genuinely the easiest enemy ever

[wispy path]

they're easy until you get one from behind that you didn't see spawn

[west pulsar]

Skill issue

Do more camera spins and they're loud as shit i hear them from a mile away

[wispy path]

ok, i think our time to chat is over, take care 😄

[west pulsar]

Going already?

Take care

[livid zenith]

I mainly dislike squitoes when I’m doing death runs so I want to go fast and not avoid them, and also I can’t easily kill them because no stuff

Although with death runs I don’t want to risk a mead to dying to something else

[west pulsar]

Fair i dont die often though but if you have no armor then the repellent is nice

Well the only other thing I'd worry about if you're naked is growth

But otherwise lox are about as good at tracking as a Walmart employee trying to move 35 shopping carts and fulings are easily avoided

The game is easy on the mechanical level and the devs know its why they throw like 30 enemies at you at any given time in the Ashlands

[livid zenith]

That’s why I enjoy Ashlands, it’s a good challenge over other things

[west pulsar]

For me its not hard just tedious

Idk im not a fan of like "hard" via just throwing a fuck ton of enemies to the point of you either have to back them up 500 feet to out tech them or you just spam magic in a firefight because without magic you'll die if you try to just trade because you're not parrying 15 charred when 6 are shooting you

[livid zenith]

Hard via harder to dodge and better traking enemies would be prefferable, but it’s still fun to roll, parry, and fight with melee in the middle of everything, even if it’s stupid and probably will result in death

[west pulsar]

Yea my idea of fun combat isnt hit backstep hit dodge hit backstep etc

[random kayak]

Souls game moment

[livid zenith]

I prefer parry hit parry hit while sidesteping archers

[west pulsar]

Souls mechanics without the part that makes those games fun

[random kayak]

Don't worry we have Bluetooth parry in Valheim

[west pulsar]

Are we playing the same Ashlands bro i get like 10 melee dudes at once

[random kayak]

Unlucky

I haven't even seen Ashlands

[west pulsar]

I got there and had like 6 spawners i could see

[livid zenith]

It’s possible to get only one swinging at once

[random kayak]

So busy with building stuff that most of my time is stuck just building cool stuff

[west pulsar]

Yea but then theres a morgen and lava blobs and archers and whatever else its never just melee guys

[livid zenith]

That part’s unlucky, I usually get 2-3 on landing

[random kayak]

Do I need a grandiose building with ornaments and decorations? No.

But is it darn cozy to do? HELL YEAH

[livid zenith]

Morgens spend most the fight rollong away and lava blobs self destruct when you run at them

[west pulsar]

Yea i had like 30 skills when i got there the first time my first impression was bad my opinion has improved but

[west pulsar]

True the morgen ai is DERPY

[livid zenith]

Asksvins are dangerous though. they recover fast when they lunge and they’re fast, tanky, and high damage

[west pulsar]

Yea idk the Ashlands got beef with me

Im never having a nice time 😔

[kindred hare]

whats horn of celebration? does it do anything

[west pulsar]

Its a cup that you can drink mead from

[plush umbra]

iirc it was added for the 1(?) year early access anniversary and functions the same as other drinking horns - using it consumes mead from your inventory for no additional benefit

you can put it on an item stand for decoration

[west pulsar]

It should make potions last longer or work like feasts but drinkable

[kindred hare]

ok. and for dragon boss. fire arrows or poison. the wiki is a bit confusing on which is better

[west pulsar]

Do the math

[plush umbra]

obsidian is usually best, poison is only best if you can't shoot more than 1 arrow every 4 or so seconds

and fire is just not great. obsidian's 52 pierce, she's neutral to pierce, so that's 52 damage.
fire arrows are 11 pierce and 22 fire, she's weak to fire so that's 22 x 1.5 + 11 = 44 damage, still less than obsidian despite the weakness.

[west pulsar]

Fire arrows suck sadly

[kindred hare]

yea. but they are easy to make. obsidian i dont have much of yet

[plush umbra]

poison arrows have more total damage than obsidian, but that's assuming you let the DoT tick in its entirety. if you shoot another arrow before the previous one is done ticking, the previous one's damage is just cut off by the new one

[west pulsar]

Another reason poison needs a buff

[livid zenith]

Not necessarily bad, but they’re unlocked in the first biome and a new fire arrow never becomes available, despite new fire materials becoming available. They fall behind

[plush umbra]

fire probably still beats poison if your bows level is high enough to shoot really fast and thus miss out on most of the poison damage

[shy marlin]

Bile arrow when irongate

[livid zenith]

That sounds right, but in that situation obsidian, frost,silver, or iron arrows are better (and for Moder specifically, silver and obi are better). But fire arrows are cheap

[shy marlin]

plz don't ever make obsidian arrows

complete waste

[peak lark]

what arrows then just keep using poison?

[wispy path]

frost arrow

[shy marlin]

if you can just make a quick adventure to the plains with the root harnesk and kill some squitoes if you're looking for a pure pierce arrow that's easy to make and effective

[wispy path]

https://www.reddit.com/r/valheim/comments/smdslq/arrow_types_vs_enemies/#lightbox - this is from like 3 years ago, not sure how accurate it is now, but i still feel like frosties work best

[shy marlin]

the damage on the poison arrows is super misleading

and yea frost arrows stronk

[vital umbra]

i like how they look

in my inventory and chests

[shy marlin]

doesn't make them good mechanically sorry 😐

[vital umbra]

is that guy that was angry and basically said i was egotistical for not modding the shit out of the game still around and trying to spread propaganda

[tiny tiger]

I’m saving my needle arrows for mistlands

Currently have about 26 needles saved up

Needle arrows aren’t even that much better mechanically they only do 10 more damage

[vital umbra]

@shy marlin you'd have to be there, some people were, i liked the vanilla experience and somehow that really upset someone.

called modding the lifeblood of these indie games or something like that

that really weirded me out

[shy marlin]

factor in the cost

[tiny tiger]

What’s so expensive? Obsidian is plentiful, wood is plentiful, feathers are easy to get I have 5 stacks so far

[shy marlin]

Obsidian is plentiful but it's still a pain to get and you have to actively go out of your way to get it, needle arrows just happen naturally through progression

[vital umbra]

but they're like green and i don't like them

[shy marlin]

and obsidian is much better used for frost arrows anyways, that's the biggest thing

[tiny tiger]

Needle arrows take a lot more time to get the same amount in comparison unless you are also actively going out your way to hunt every deathsquitos

[shy marlin]

that's just not true lol

[tiny tiger]

I agree that frost arrows are better tho

Arguably better than both needle and obsidian

[unborn nexus]

always found it weird we never get upgrades for em

you're tellin me we fight fire mages, fire demons, and wolfman cultists that make fire by waving their hands around and a napalm packed blimp, but we're still stuck with wrapping tree sap on a stick and slapping feathers on it

(yes i know the fire staff exists)

[vital umbra]

prostitute powder should get more uses

[tiny tiger]

Obsidian breaks in one hit with max iron pick at level 40 so it’s really not that bad and you get like 4-6 obsidian per node or something? Just go through literally any portal you have to any mountain large enough

[unborn nexus]

deathsquitos actively seek you out tho

i go for a lox hunting trip and end up with a good amount of meat for pies/platters, with a nice side of bug noses

[vital umbra]

but if i'm in the mountains then i'm not in the plains

[shy marlin]

i've said it before, needle arrows happen naturally through progression, obsidian arrows you have to go out of your way to obtain

[vital umbra]

if i'm in the plains then obviously i am going to use needle arrows

[unborn nexus]

at least the deathsquito comes to you

[shy marlin]

you can enter a biome without killing the previous biomes boss so ???

[tiny tiger]

I just don’t see how that’s true, you have to go into the mountains for progression anyway

[unborn nexus]

drakes remain an asshole from a distance, and there's a chance their corpse gets rocketed off into the distance

[vital umbra]

uh oh...my opinion will diverge here i'm afraid...

guys i have a horrible confession...i strictly adhere to progression 😔

[unborn nexus]

i have lost a good many freeze glands because a drake went soaring off the mountain

[tiny tiger]

I think you are exaggerating how much of a hassle it is to gather obsidian when you are in the mountains

[shy marlin]

it's literally zero effort vs some effort, and why would you EVER waste obsidian on an arrow that's not frost because frost arrows are crazy strong

[vital umbra]

not going into the blackforest until eikthyr, the swamp until the elder, the mountains until bonemass, the plains until moder, the mistlands until yagluth, and so on and so forth, i cant stand the thought.

[tiny tiger]

If you are hunting for drakes you may as well gather obsidian too

[shy marlin]

but you don't hunt for drakes, it just happens naturally

[tiny tiger]

And obsidian mining will bring drakes to you if they don’t spot you

[unborn nexus]

not terribly heavy

[vital umbra]

on tier...i use obsidian in the mountains and needle in the plains, theres no real argument to use obsidian in the plains i don't think, frost sure.

[unborn nexus]

when the weapon that hampers mobility exists

[tiny tiger]

how does obsidian mining not happen naturally tho? Because it’s not a flying enemies that flies to you?

[unborn nexus]

can't think of a game where mobility hampering mechanics/debuffs aren't annoying

[shy marlin]

spoilers but rocks don't aggro on you

[vital umbra]

stone golems

🧡

[unborn nexus]

golems draw aggro, might kill the drake if it flies low

[tiny tiger]

Right but occurring naturally doesn’t mean it is just served to you on a platter, hunger is natural and that causes you to seek food not have food fly into your mouth

[shy marlin]

yall know exactly what i mean, crazy semantics

[vital umbra]

you know i did it on purpose chill

[unborn nexus]

then you can watch the drake corpse get sent off the mountain like a tennis ball

[tiny tiger]

You need obsidian for cooking upgrades too and there’s just no reason not to gather some when you are in the mountains

[shy marlin]

why would you EVER waste obsidian on an arrow that's not frost because frost arrows are crazy strong

plz plz plz read

[tiny tiger]

sure you can argue frost arrows are better but eye scream is also better than onion soup so I wanna save my frost glands for that

obsidian arrows are just easy to acquire in bulk

[vital umbra]

typically that is why i use obsidian arrows yes

[unborn nexus]

then you got me who never uses frost arrows

[vital umbra]

Food >>> Allllll

I'm just so hungy

[unborn nexus]

can't fight if you don't got the stats

[shy marlin]

if we wanna get into semantics that's not true

[vital umbra]

eating makes me happy

[unborn nexus]

drakes? always looking for you
same with greydwarves

[vital umbra]

I would much rather see my stats higher than most other things

[unborn nexus]

smack a rock at night in the BF with antler as a dinnerbell invitation

watch the tree people come runnin

[vital umbra]

I discovered a thing for stuff

[tiny tiger]

Ironically I am chronically low on greydwarf eyes from all the eye scream I’ve been eating

[vital umbra]

i have almost no uses for carrots at this point but i want to level farming so i still diligently harvest them, my chest is full so they just go in the obliterator and it saves time finding trees ✨

bro is trying to rap, ironically chronically.

[tiny tiger]

I have like 4 stacks of carrots chilling and around the same in seeds I guess they’ll be good for chickens tho when I get those

boars eat carrots too right?

[unborn nexus]

thor mysteriously wondering why the promising warrior is destroying carrots enmass for coal

yeah boars eat carrots

[tiny tiger]

Plains and above is it worth investing in boars now? I didn’t bother taming earlier and other than to have a nice boar farm I don’t see what use I’ll have in them, I have plenty of leather scraps by now

[vital umbra]

can the scythe be used on mistlands things

[tiny tiger]

nope unless they added that in in a patch

[vital umbra]

why would that not be a thing

[tiny tiger]

who knows

[shy marlin]

because irongate makes very questionable design choices sometimes

[unborn nexus]

They can be a food source for your wolves

[tiny tiger]

which I also don’t have 🤦‍♂️

[vital umbra]

use a scythe on fucking...carrots and turnips and onions...but not other things 😭

[tiny tiger]

Screw it I’ll go tame lox

[unborn nexus]

given you still need to harvest them via butcher knife but it saves you the trouble of finding things to kill

why would a scythe be needed for a giant mushroom though

[vital umbra]

i have infinite fucking lox meat trying to get trophies for the fishing bait so i don't need to tame any more for anything

[vital umbra]

or carrots or onions or turnips

items which you pull out of the ground irl, not attack the dirt with a blade.

[unborn nexus]

mm

[vital umbra]

love that its a feature idc but seriously.

[unborn nexus]

wolf taming, just hope a golem doesn't find the taming hole

[tiny tiger]

Just gotta guard for 15 mins

Hell you could even go out of your way to mine some obsidian and actively bring the stone golems to you for the windows

[unborn nexus]

Crys-axe is one of my favorites

shame i don't really use the 2h battleaxes

[tiny tiger]

I find it too clunky personally I’m more of a frostner guy

[vital umbra]

it looks cool tho

[tiny tiger]

on my wall sure? When I’m fighting and messing up the timings not so much

[unborn nexus]

I like that mistlands weapons and up start becoming named instead of Material-Weapon type(with some exceptions)

[vital umbra]

flametal mace 👽

FUCK the plains is so pretty when its sunny

[tiny tiger]

It reminds me of the UK

[unborn nexus]

then suddenly

f o g

[shy marlin]

f of g(x) ? (sry calculus brainrot )

[unborn nexus]

forgot if the bound wisp works on regular mist but it's just cool to see it dance around

[vital umbra]

the forests in the plains look so pristine and i know theres no way to replace the golden trees so i am literally making a walled in park that i will not touch 🤩

[shy marlin]

but you can replace the golden trees

[vital umbra]

not last i remembered

[unborn nexus]

you mean the birch trees?

[tiny tiger]

Birch seeds, although you get less then 1 per tree

wait oh you mean the fluffy trees

[vital umbra]

huhh....? i know you can plant birch trees...but they're green even in the plains lol..

[unborn nexus]

but yeah the golden colors is very nice

[tiny tiger]

Man I could have sworn those trees were green

[unborn nexus]

shame everything is out to murder you to appreciate it

[vital umbra]

little shrubs are green, the trees are golden.

[shy marlin]

cut down a "golden" tree and get some saplings from it and instantly replant it

[tiny tiger]

I think that’s half the reason it’s so beautiful lol, you’ll be appreciating the view and suddenly a deathsquito is on your ass

[shy marlin]

the birch tree will have the yellow instead of green

[vital umbra]

since when

[shy marlin]

since release?

[vital umbra]

i always got green ass trees in the plains

[unborn nexus]

i curse the soundtrack for having mosquito sounds in it

180 with the shield to find... nothing

[shy marlin]

what likely happened is you got a birch sapling that was plains flavored, and you then deposited it back into the chest of your previous birch saplings from the meadows, and when you planted it used the meadows version from previous saplings

[vital umbra]

seriously

[tiny tiger]

Why does the game differentiate by where the birch seeds were from and not what biome they’re planted in, are you sure that’s how it works?

[vital umbra]

why aren't they just like "yellow birch seed"

[unborn nexus]

planteverything wins again

[tiny tiger]

What happens if you mix the two types together do you get a stack of gold and green trees

[shy marlin]

ye it becomes mixed

[tiny tiger]

That seems so odd

[shy marlin]

not sure on the priority of which gets used first but if i deposit 5 meadows birch saplings and 5 plains birch, it stacks to 10 saplings, but when you go and plant them you'll still get 5 of each flavor

[unborn nexus]

same energy as female draugr trophies

while a seperate looking trophy, they merge into male draugr trophies if prompted

[tiny tiger]

I did not know that or ever noticed because I’d always get the male trophy first

[unborn nexus]

trophy_draugr_female

something like that

they only come from draugr spawned from the meadows villages

[tiny tiger]

Ahh

[unborn nexus]

curiously never naturally occuring from the swamp

[vital umbra]

why do these kinds of things exist

[shy marlin]

wait till you find out there's a secret boss in the game files

[unborn nexus]

same energy as 2 star trolls

[tiny tiger]

Oh I think I’ve seen this on YT actually

[shy marlin]

ye the hive

[unborn nexus]

they never appear until you go far enough from the world's center

[tiny tiger]

Yeah it looked cool in concept

[shy marlin]

or that's there's a spaceship in the games files too

[rotund bay]

I hope when 1.0 releases, it also fixes things getting out of your hit zone because of terrains angle,
being a spearman is a pain

[tiny tiger]

I wonder if they’re still considering a immobile boss in the future

[vital umbra]

i have seen the hive, looks not valheim-y

[tiny tiger]

That’s intended gameplay tho, if you wanna hit enemies lower you gotta throw it

Or use a weapon with an attack animation that targets lower like axe or mace

[shy marlin]

intended gameplay or just bad design 🤔

[rotund bay]

i don wanna, a hab pointy stick

[tiny tiger]

I would like the spear to have a dedicated slot after thrown for if you pick something else up before spear

[rotund bay]

even bosses suffer from it,
tis sad

[unborn nexus]

looked it up

[tiny tiger]

Well it seems intentional since no weapon has 3d aiming

[vital umbra]

both it seems

[unborn nexus]

thank god it wasn't the hive i was thinking of

(the hive boss of Resistance 2)

[rotund bay]

that would also be nice, because your stuff filling with stones and resin taking up the spear slot is pain

[vital umbra]

b-b-b-but it could be Gasps eeexplooiiitedd!!

as exploitable as building a fucking tree-house and no-hitting the entire bonemass fight with a bow

[tiny tiger]

If the spear did everything there’d be no point using the other weapons you gotta have niches

[unborn nexus]

face my problems head on

(not 2 star seekers though)

[tiny tiger]

Or just exploiting the terrible boss ai lol

[rotund bay]

it's already hard to keep using spears when we're at the ashlands 😔, is being able to hit stuff on your feet without throwing really that bad

[vital umbra]

i kinda wish that like....starred enemies had a higher trophy chance...and the 2 starred enemies just had unique trophies.

[tiny tiger]

bonemass should be able to go between the trees like it’s made of blob shouldn’t it just be able to squeeze through

[unborn nexus]

funny the deer trophy has horns on it's head

[vital umbra]

yeahh

[unborn nexus]

unstarred deer never have horns, yet you get the horned trophy from it

[shy marlin]

game is unplayable

[vital umbra]

red seeker trophies and red troll trophies would be pretty epic.

since fish can be used as trophies and higher and higher sizes of them it'd be cool if the same happened with like hunting animals, trophy hunting.

i oughta make a ballista dedicated to deathsquitos....killing my fucking chickens...

[tiny tiger]

Those poor chickens lol

I can’t tell whether you mean the ballista is killing them, deathsquitos, or both lol

[vital umbra]

deathsquitos, i haven't placed ballistas yet

they don't seem horribly expensive

i wonder if it might be worth it to just build a base ballista with no allocations...for raids and stuff.

how powerful are they with like black metal...bolt...things

[tiny tiger]

Should work well as long as it can’t aim into the base

although they do only hold like 40 ammo right

[vital umbra]

never have i ever placed a ballista down, i know nothing.

[cedar sparrow]

I haven't either. And I've also never used a ward.

[unborn nexus]

wards are more an early warning system in solo

as the sphere flashes when something in it takes damage

[vital umbra]

decoration

[west pulsar]

I use them a lot ask me the wue

[west pulsar]

Uh they hit HARD 120 damage for black metal missiles

I got like 10 around my animal farm because fulings are assh***s bruh

[nimble moss]

You probably want to build a building for chickens, and/or with iron grate walls.

Otherwise other events, like bat base raid, will kill them off.

[west pulsar]

Im so glad beating fader disables charred raids they were so annoying

[vital umbra]

I do have them in a building, the forefathers atleast, i like to see the masses free range in my park

[noble jewel]

Im not sure where to ask this, but game gives near Plains (Tar pits) Warning about : "Internal:JobTempAlloc" etc, what to do with it?

[sturdy sedge]

Any news on when the christmas tree is back?😬 Scandinavia has gone full on christmas, i wanna decorate!

[nocturne wolf]

You can build it right now

[plush umbra]

it's automated now, activates december 1st and deactivates january 6th.
remember that you have to move an item around in your inventory (or pick one up/throw one out) to update your available recipes

doesn't have to be an item from the recipe, all those actions just nudge the game to check

that said, the character does also have to have the relevant items "discovered" of course
(wood and fir cones for the tree
fine wood and pine cones for the garland
pine cones, red jute and fine wood for the wreath
and fine wood and red jute for the mistletoe)

[azure yacht]

Already is

[vocal rivet]

Didn't Winter's response suffice?

[plush umbra]

-# it was a bit much

[pliant hatch]

Nah. It only took me 5 minutes to read it.

But that was because I was distracted 7 times so I had to start over. 😄

[fallen zephyr]

Have you been tested for ADHD?

[wide topaz]

I'm amused by the wording, and the mental imagery of someone spitting in a test tube, having it mixed with some chemical, it starts to fizz and smoke and the scientist is like "yup, that's definitely adhd"

[fallen zephyr]

I mean, it's more like a self-assessment survey, but well done 'telling us your neurotypical without telling us you're neurotypical' ;P

[wide topaz]

Hm, sorry you've caught me in the wrong category friend, I'm a 31 year old woman diagnosed with, and medicated for ADHD lol

[fallen zephyr]

In that case, I'm sorry my English doesn't meet your syntactic standards.

[wide topaz]

Oh it's alright friend, I'm not trying to give you a hard time, I'm just enjoying my own interpretation of words

Sorry to make you uncomfortable

[fallen zephyr]

You're good. As a friend, though, can I borrow $100?

[wide topaz]

No ❤️

😛 I tend to call people friend if I worry there's conflict to try and say "It's okay, I don't want to be a dick"

[fallen zephyr]

Oh ok, I getcha. As a dick, can I borrow $100?

[wide topaz]

heh

[pliant hatch]

Farming clown awards again, are we?

[plush umbra]

[shy marlin]

👀

[fallen zephyr]

No, it was a genuine inquiry.

[cosmic igloo]

what biome is the worst to base in

[shy marlin]

mountains or ashlands prolly

[pliant hatch]

Swamp isn't that good either

[plush umbra]

as much as i love mountains, yea drakes are tedious to make your base safe from

[shy marlin]

at least with swamp you can be close to surtling cores, coal, and iron

[plush umbra]

and be safely suspended above the ground by unbreakable trees

[pliant hatch]

You also need to deal with a constant effect of being wet

[plush umbra]

unless you have a roof

[shy marlin]

me personally i don't like mountain bases because it means having to haul metals up a mountain, but if you build a good road system maybe it's not that bad idk

[plush umbra]

that's another problem yea

[tiny tiger]

Mountains bases just look cool tbh I plan to make a castle and if it’s right on the peak and you have workbench’s under the rocks around it shouldn’t be too bad

There’s always ballista set to drakes once you acquire mistlands gear

[plush umbra]

kinda what i did.
most of my favourite bases are on mountains but i won't deny that it's one of the worst biomes to build a base in

[shy marlin]

never said they don't look cool, but the mechanics behind the mountain bases just aren't there compared to other biomes

[tiny tiger]

it must be a pain with all the sound of building attracting drakes and golems

[plush umbra]

and the cold if you died, can't leave your base without some frost resistance

[fallen zephyr]

As soon as you can, make two wolf capes; then you have one for recovering your corpse.

[tiny tiger]

Mistlands sucks for building bases imo

If you can pull it off it looks spectacular but the terrain is unruly and the mobs are very destructive

[plush umbra]

the uneven terrain is great for securing against grounded enemies the better way - preventing them from aggroing in the first place by not giving them anything to see. seekers only start flying if they're in combat iirc

imo the more unruly the terrain is, the better the base flat terrain makes for boring layouts

[tiny tiger]

How many shots do ballista take to kill gjall

[plush umbra]

that would be a problem yea

[shy marlin]

Yes, if you work with the terrain it builds so much more character to a build, as for mistlands builds, i like building on an island with some grass (for crops) and spawns are generally a non issue

[fallen zephyr]

Too many. The first one just pisses them off.

[shy marlin]

abandon ballistas embrace sneak hitting arbalest gaming

[plush umbra]

i wouldn't like relying on ballistae, need to be refilled manually and draw attention even if out of ammo since they're attacked on sight

[fallen zephyr]

Arbalest is good. If the first hit is a weak-point surprise strike, you can three hit a Gjall.

[shy marlin]

with high enough skill level you can just straight up one shot em

but yes arbalest very stronk

[cosmic igloo]

man going back to swamps and minig just like i did 10000 years ago feels so bad. i've beaten the game, i should have some OP thing like a grenade that just blows up the entire muddy scrap pile

its like 0 progress made, im still as weak as before

[tiny tiger]

Need a pocket demolished thing from Ashland’s

Demolisher cart

[cosmic igloo]

dude u know those lava blobs that blow up in ashlands. just gimme that

there are bombs already in the game. just make a bomb that does exactly that lava blob boom

just reuse assets

[tiny tiger]

I find running through swamps with maxed mountain really satisfying

[cosmic igloo]

i like going to lowerlvl zones and spawn trolls

[tiny tiger]

Love option ?

[cosmic igloo]

like fuling camp vs troll

[tiny tiger]

Potion

[cosmic igloo]

trollstav

[tiny tiger]

Ahhh

How do stats compare to regular troll

[cosmic igloo]

i think its like a 2star troll

https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Summoned_troll

[teal matrix]

Damage is on par to a regular troll

[leaden elbow]

whenever i host for my sister over time theres ping that just gets worse and worse, for me.

1. I host, its on my pc, why would there be bad ping logically
2. She says she doesnt experience any delay opening chests and such, while i do
3. Anyone know a fix? A reason?

[teal matrix]

Just tanky

[tiny tiger]

From a Reddit post 4 years ago, not sure if it still works this way:

The other day a dev commented on how this all works, in my oversimplified retelling, the first player into an area becomes the host of that area. If they have bad lag, everyone will have bad lag in that area.

So, you’re at the mercy of everyone’s connection, even if you are the server, if you weren’t the first one into that area.

[leaden elbow]

goddamnit i knew it it is on her side

[tiny tiger]

It explains why it starts off good and gets worse overtime too, you switch host of the area after sometime

Seems like a workaround is having you be first everywhere but that doesn’t really seem like a good workaround tbh

[leaden elbow]

any way to change that? mod? whatever? Valheim is usually at 20% cpu usage when both in an area i can handle 2 seperate areas just fine

i dont get it why would valheim force an area on a worse computer

[tiny tiger]

I remember there is some kind of mod that is meant to make multiplayer better but I have no idea what it’s called or where you’d find it, I recommend doing some searching around see what you can find

[leaden elbow]

https://www.nexusmods.com/valheim/mods/1570?tab=description

its this one but it both makes the game stutter like shit and "* The player who arrives in an area first is responsible for lag there. Ideally, the people with the best internet should be ahead of the pack or first through a portal, at least until Better Networking 3.0.*", which uh, hasnt been updated or the code worked on for over a year

hm i havent tried changing the settings

[tiny tiger]

Someone asked for feedback on the better networking mod 6 months ago and a guy replied “Not needed. Pretty sure the consensus was it was written by someone who didn't understand valheim's netcode originally. It had a pseudo effect for some, but for others it introduced new lag/crashes. If you're hitting the Steam data cap (or whatever the internal issue is, I don't quite remember at this point), Smoothbrain's Network mod is all you need.”

Maybe try out smoothbrain network mod

[leaden elbow]

alright

[tiny tiger]

https://jamesachambers.com/revisiting-fixing-valheim-lag-modifying-send-receive-limits/

[cosmic igloo]

does summoned troll despawn? except for being killed

[nocturne wolf]

I don't think so, but I havent tested enough with them to be sure

[queen rampart]

How tf do i find levaiathans ive been sailing around the ocen biomes for 1 hr not seen one?

[plush umbra]

sounds unlucky, they only render in once you're pretty close to them so just keep sailing

[queen rampart]

Literally just found one after i read that

Thanks

[fair cairn]

think youl needa couple of them to get everything
unless you only want a harpoon i guess
maybe they ahve more uses now idk