valheim-chat

[tacit crystal]

They are little robots controlled by government to watch over citizens. Covid quarantines were just a distraction so the gov got to change their batteries. 👀

[gray sand]

Precisely.

[nimble aurora]

always have avoided, always will. unfortunately it’s shrinking the dating pool quite a bit, i got lucky this time around but like

[tiny tiger]

Quarantine being the biggest transfer of wealth in history tho

Rich got 4.2 trillion richer poor got 3.8 trillion poorer or something something

[mellow lava]

Generation wealth is becoming generationaly worthless. Inflation is up wages are down

[random kayak]

I'll probably never have kids for the sake that I would be too busy doing a lot of work than ever having the time to take care of a kid... Assuming that I find a partner which I never will LMAO

[tiny tiger]

Shit man I don’t want kids unless I can provide them a better childhood than I had

[random kayak]

Real

[vital umbra]

it has been brought to my attention that some gen z slang gets you instantly molested by automod 😎

[tiny tiger]

It’s that simple really, you just gotta want the next generation to have it better than the previous generation

[vital umbra]

i cannot say the S and the I and the G and the M and the A word ☕

[random kayak]

My childhood sucked, I love my mom and dad but like... Man that wasn't right how they did me... But asian parents I suppose

[vital umbra]

but okay what is actually happening in the valheim chat why are we getting into like our life stories and conspiracy theories and the state of the world 🥴

[random kayak]

But eh maybe I am slightly effed in the head with something. I just don't know what

[mellow lava]

Here's a good one for you. Australia has TWO large super market chains & over the past year or so. Those billion dollar companies have reported a 100% profit from earlier years? How. They used the wars & covid to artificially inflate prices to gouge the population. Because the population has no other choice..

Those two said companies pay the government off & fund it too

[tiny tiger]

Childhood trauma is more common than it is acknowledged

[tacit crystal]

Aren't we all a bit?

[vital umbra]

Ahh i see..

[random kayak]

Nothing more viking like discussing economics and life stories. How are we going to raid villages if we don't know the bank of our plunder

[tiny tiger]

We got our 20s to unlearn the bad shit from childhood

[random kayak]

I have a theory that I might be autistic or the very least perhaps ADHD because I show symptoms of it. But my city doesn't have a psychologist and they're expensive

[tiny tiger]

Artificial scarcity too while we at it, take diamonds for example they should not be as expensive as they are but they hoard them all and distribute them scarcely

Now imagine what else is being made artificially scarce for the sake of exploiting for profit

[random kayak]

Natural diamonds, but synthetic diamonds are actually pretty common

[vital umbra]

Holy shit anyone valheiming in here

[random kayak]

I'm going to drop Warhammer 40k lore on you in retaliation

[mellow lava]

Brother. I could be paying half for the food I'm buying now. And the shop would be making more than double their money it's wild

[tiny tiger]

And of course the farmers aren’t seeing the profits it’s all in the middle man

[mellow lava]

Drop the necrontier lore. I dare

[tacit crystal]

Valheim chat is new general chat.

[mellow lava]

I live & work on a farm. Seen it and see it everyday first hand

[random kayak]

No, I'll just drop how rubberman girlyman has a aeldari girlfriend or something I dunno :3

[tiny tiger]

Until the problem of greed can be solved humanity will stay coasting the way it is now

[random kayak]

I pray for y'all in the USA buying PC parts especially now with the Tariffs

So you can enjoy Valheim in better resolution

And power

[vital umbra]

Idek what anyone is talking about anymore 🥶

[mellow lava]

Anyhow. I'm off to go try to terraform a mountain in my level 2 bronze armor because I fear no Wolf. As I have a bow and a magical thing called a building hammer

[tiny tiger]

We can move on to valheim if you guys want

[vital umbra]

uhhh i just finished setting up my plains farm, thats pretty fun.

[tiny tiger]

Ima hop on my solo world tbh got a few hours before work

[random kayak]

We should move to Valheim, problem solved no economy to worry about

[vocal rivet]

That's the point of the channel, yes.

[random kayak]

Only Killing Greydwarves indiscriminately

[tiny tiger]

The are murderers and thieves brought back by evil magic discrimination is necessary

[random kayak]

What slur would a greydwarf even have 😭

[tiny tiger]

Dirt gremlin

[random kayak]

Twig muncher

[vital umbra]

stupid poopoo head

[mellow lava]

If I could live in the world of valheim. They are that yes , but imagine them in the application of a moving torch. Or tie them up and use them as slaves for resource hauling

[gray sand]

I was going to say something else with "Twig" but definitely would get banned immediately 😄

[vocal rivet]

Well, this is going nowhere good.

[random kayak]

HELP THIS IS SOME META

[vital umbra]

my brains autocomplete dictates that to be a funny thing

[gray sand]

😄

[tiny tiger]

Brother wants to enslave the greydwarf population

[mellow lava]

They are plants slavery is fine. They are also souls of sinners manifest. So technically they know how to work & they know fear. It would work

[gray sand]

Nah. I would be more into magic if you could summon skeletons to harvest for you.

[tiny tiger]

Think bigger and bluer

[gray sand]

Summon some skeletons to keep the smelters stocked with coal.

[hoary mirage]

they dont sound like a great workforce tbh

trolls would be better

[near furnace]

The whole slave discussion is getting very old......

[gray sand]

How would a troll be better at collecting Flax and carefully putting it in the smol opening on the Spinning Wheel?

[vital umbra]

can chat resist the urge to be weird for 5 minutes ☕

[mellow lava]

Just think though. Greydwarfs are perfect. Small , souls of humans so they can understand you and the best part. Replacable and cheap. It's pretty much a perfect logistics system

[vital umbra]

also godDAMNNN my windmillls must be in a horrible spot because they only processed 13 flour from noon till morning sleeping..

[gray sand]

Wait.. is their speed based on wind?

[mellow lava]

Just use a army of greydrawfs and turn a black forest into a Amazon sorting facility

[near furnace]

hopfully because there seems to be ALOT of non valheim related talks in valheim-chat

[vocal rivet]

Of course.

[gray sand]

So wait...

[vital umbra]

I don't know man, why do i have like no wind.

[gray sand]

Could you use Moder power to speed them up?

[vital umbra]

my guy just slept for like 20 hours straight to no avail...i just want foooooooood....

[mellow lava]

Did u build ina terrible spot?

[vital umbra]

i don't know what that meaaans

[hoary mirage]

plains would be the best for a windmill farm no ?

[vocal rivet]

No, that's for on the sea.

[gray sand]

But if I build on the edge, and get in my boat. It affects the wind.

And you said wind affects the Windmill speed.

[vital umbra]

should i build my windmills on a tower

i heard something about something about obstructing them

[hoary mirage]

i think its a different kind of wind

[gray sand]

Wind is wind.
What are you talking about?

[hoary mirage]

theres boat wind and windmill wind i think

[gray sand]

You wind something up and then it takes off into the sky where the wind carries it.

😏

[hoary mirage]

boat is based off direction while windmill is based off strenght and obstruction i think ?

[random kayak]

I wish greydwarves had different variants like a very scary big grey dwarf, an amalgamation of souls twisting it's form

[vital umbra]

I am retiring my frostner for the time being 😔

[hoary mirage]

blackdwarves when

[vital umbra]

pinkdwarves

[gray sand]

🇬 🇴 🇴 🇩

😛 😉 💛

[tiny tiger]

what’s everyone listen to when playing valheim

[gray sand]

I watch TV 😄

[tiny tiger]

I’m vibing to some ozzy rn

[mellow lava]

It'd be a cool concept for the game. A new magic type but not really. You could form a material body out of resources like a golem & wait for a soul to take its place

[gray sand]

I have Forged in Fire on my second monitor while I play.

[vital umbra]

Because its just so damn good it feels like i'm using a crutch 🧡

[gray sand]

Heresy.

They could make an entire documentary titled:

Knockback Increase presents: How to Ruin a Perfect Weapon in One Update

[vital umbra]

perfect for what i want the weapon to do which is stave off enemies, that pairs so synergetically with the frost effect.

also i'm posting my windmills in screenshots they do seem sucky

Nevermind i have to wait twenty thousand years to post again.

[gray sand]

Yeah. The only and only mod I may ever download and deal with the nausea for would be one that puts Frostner back to what it used to be.

[vital umbra]

what pray tell would that be.

[gray sand]

Exact same weapon without the NFL-kicker level knockback.

[vital umbra]

that sounds boring

do you realise how wonderful that is when you use the secondary attack on greylings

[gray sand]

Originally it had the same knock as Wooden Club (perfection) and it let you kill people.

Then, they skyrocketed it for some hitherto unknown reason.

[gray sand]

Leave the massive knock on the secondary, I am fine with that.

Then you have the "I want to kill people" and "I want to make space" both available to you.

[tiny tiger]

I mean it’s still in early access frostner could still get a rework

[vital umbra]

but the secondary attack is worse for multiple targets

[gray sand]

X for Doubt

[tiny tiger]

Hell they could even add a frost stone or something in the deep north to upgrade it for all we know

[gray sand]

Multiple targets? You mean the function of two-handed hammers?

[vital umbra]

well i don't use them so i mean the frostner

if i can't put a shield together with it i don't want it, exception for berzerkir axes.

[mellow lava]

And krom

[vital umbra]

i don't like atgeirs, i don't like hammers, krom and slayer are...okay, i pretty much exclusively just mess around with them here and there, the battleaxes i find actually fun but i never care to put the effort in to craft them.

[gray sand]

Krom is so fun.

[tiny tiger]

How is knockback on krom

[mellow lava]

The battleaxe does great until you hit a certain point tho gotta admit

[gray sand]

Non existent.

The only problem with Krom and Slayer atm is the bug 😭

[mellow lava]

I had a bug on a friend's world. I'd leave & join and my attack speed would stack

So i decided to keep leaving and rejoining constantly

[gray sand]

Oh this is about multi-target penalty.

[mellow lava]

Eventually it got to the point where I decided to eat only stamina foods & see if I could burst dps the elder

[gray sand]

Krom and Slayer used to not have one (like all 2 handers).
Some while ago in an update, it switched to where they DO have MtP and all the one-handed swords do NOT.

[mellow lava]

About 20 hits in 2 seconds , the animation was extremely busted and it was hilarious

[tiny tiger]

That would make more sense in reverse no?

[gray sand]

Correct.

[mellow lava]

Hmm

[tiny tiger]

Weird

[vital umbra]

i wish black metal and silver had more building pieces

[gray sand]

And it used to be that way.
Hence, bug.

[mellow lava]

Especially when fuling farms are incredibly easy

[gray sand]

Decorative blackmetal pieces would go hard.

Blackmetal wall/grate.

[vital umbra]

and still i think black metal heavy armour should exist, while padded is relegated to medium.

[mellow lava]

Oh hey. I cleared out a entire plains and I've got 200+ pieces of black metal for no real effort? Damn. Nothing to do with the rest of it

[gray sand]

Shiny dark green and then you throw green torches in there.

Perfect Swamp base aesthetic.

[mellow lava]

It'd give a real purpose to black metal. Black metal plate armor would look & go hard

[vital umbra]

spiky like an orcs

[gray sand]

Might not be the right type of metal for it.

Like the metal we make blades from irl is different than what goes into armor because difference between protection properties and holding edge sharpness properties.

[nimble aurora]

blackmetal lattice cage wall

[mellow lava]

I'd say it should have a decent way more armor but have a additional 20% movement penalty. Proper tank armor should exist

[vital umbra]

why do black metal chests look so sturdy then

[gray sand]

Because they thicc.

[vital umbra]

on that note holy FUCK they look good and i need more build pieces like that

[mellow lava]

Then again back in the middle ages. Metal was metal. The same type of steel used for blades would be used for armor. Just tempered and heat treated differently

[vital umbra]

honestly before 1.0 there should be a building update, silver build pieces too.

[gray sand]

Something like the dverger copper wall, but in blackmetal would be grate.

-# See what I did there?

[tiny tiger]

Holy 14 surfing cores in one crypt

You spoil me valheim I think that’s the most I’ve ever found

[nimble aurora]

that’s actually goated, i once got 6 from one room and none from the rest of the crypt lmao

[mellow lava]

Once I got two cores & stuck in between a rancid remains & a ghost

It was fun

[gray sand]

Artisan table I always thought should be jewelry crafting given it's look. And that would add more things to do with silver, rubies, amber, and probably the bloodstone/iolite/green too.

[nimble aurora]

why dont ghosts have a drop.

[tiny tiger]

They do it’s just ethereal

[gray sand]

I was sad to find there is no Ghost trophy 😭

[tiny tiger]

Ghost trophy with the purple particle effects would be 👌

[mellow lava]

Artisan table , trimmed armor pieces , armor styling ect would be cool

[nimble aurora]

they drop a tiny soul that you absorb and it makes mobs even angrier to see you

[gray sand]

It's one of the only enemies that doesn't have one.

[nimble aurora]

how come a fucking broom got a trophy and a ghost didnt

[rain flare]

It’s one of the few enemies that drops absolutely NOTHING 😂

[mellow lava]

At this point. If I don't have a trophy for a certain enemy. I assume there is none

[nimble aurora]

bro on his minecraft shi

[rain flare]

Forget a trophy or the spook

[vital umbra]

you name everything else and then theres "green"

[gray sand]

I always do hard resets on major updates, so finding them all again is always fun.

[mellow lava]

On my kingdom come shi. I'd love to be able to customise armor completely

[gray sand]

I almost never use it, so I don't remember what it is called 😁

[vital umbra]

jade

[nimble aurora]

oh thats valid af

[gray sand]

That's just a fancy word for green.

[tiny tiger]

Does anyone know how long for ingots to stay on ground till they despawn

[mellow lava]

Crystal needs more purpose tho. A crystal sword , axe & weapon line would look amazing. Hell, even shattered crystal armor

[nimble aurora]

1 hour for everything unless its in range of a base structure

[gray sand]

Um. No.

[nimble aurora]

ingots are same as every other item

[tiny tiger]

Ohhh okay that’s cool I didn’t know about the second clause

[gray sand]

I have enough trouble farming assloads of them to make windows.

I don't need to farm even more.

[tiny tiger]

I was worried I had some ingots despawn earlier but it’s right next to my base so it can’t have happen

[nimble aurora]

yeah as long as ur ingots are in range of a workbench or something theyll never despawn

[mellow lava]

But think about a crystal shield or armor , to decorate your house

[gray sand]

WINDOWS.

MASSIVE. WINDOWS.

[mellow lava]

Yes. Yes but crystal armor to look pretty in the sun reflections

[nimble aurora]

glasslike windows dont make much sense in a viking game tho

[tiny tiger]

Massive church to Odin with crystal windows

It’s a fantasy game we can have windows

[nimble aurora]

true, just feels a little chronically early

[gray sand]

Using bloodbag, freeze gland, and guck to color-tint windows when?

[mellow lava]

We play as a tiny man who kills elder gods. Tis fine to have windows

[nimble aurora]

speaking of tiny

setkey command is hilarious

if u haven’t played around with it before i highly recommend that you do

[gray sand]

Red, Blue, Green.
Royal Jelly for Yellow.

[tiny tiger]

Maybe resin? It’s a lot more common

[gray sand]

That's why not Resin 😛

[errant knoll]

I think given quite a few of the things in this game that aren't exactly viking like, the inclusion of windows also not being so isn't doing any harm

[tiny tiger]

Give the ghost a drop to make purple windows

[nimble aurora]

amethyst eye or something idk

[mellow lava]

Just give me heavy armor options and more two handed weapons for every category

[gray sand]

Heavy Armor?
You mean Bonemass power? 😏

[tiny tiger]

Black metal berserker armor when

[nimble aurora]

why no serpent scale armor 🙄

[gray sand]

I just discovered Blackmetal has no Spear and am now big sad 😭

[mellow lava]

I just mean geniunely heavy armor sets. Bronze halfplate, iron & blackmetal padded armor.

[tiny tiger]

Wait does bronze have a spear

[mellow lava]

It's be a welcome addition to the game for everyone. Heavy armor could be mixed and matched

[mellow lava]

Yeah

[gray sand]

Tower shields already suck and you want the armor version of said suckage? 🤔

[gray sand]

Yup. And it was very good.

[mellow lava]

Heavy armor would make tower shields usable imo. More armor the better

Tank build

[gray sand]

Heavy armor + tower shield would equal like... -90% movespeed.

[nocturne wolf]

Heavy armor makes tower shields worse because you go even slower

[tiny tiger]

The default plate armour is the heavy armor tho no?

It has the speed debuff high defence etc

[gray sand]

Technically yes.

They are asserting it is more of a medium and want something heavier.

[tiny tiger]

You wanna move even slower than that

[mellow lava]

Technically but it's portrayed as more of a mail armor than anything. So just basic protection

[nocturne wolf]

Root armor is medium, it has lower movespeed penalty than heavy armor

[vital umbra]

for what

you only need the flint spear for trolls in the black forest, then most things in the swamp are resistant to pierce

[rocky widget]

for stabbing things i would assume

[gray sand]

Killing things. I have made every spear so far this run and maxed it out

[mellow lava]

Plate armor being slower. Would still have a place in the game. If you know a bosses attack pattern you can afford to sacrifice some movement

[nimble aurora]

flint spear for deer and trolls, then you retire it onto an item stand for the rest of the playthrough

[vital umbra]

i love how every tier has a spear but then there's just plains again awkwardly having fuck all for weapons.

[gray sand]

Can you kill trolls with flint? Yes.
Can you kill them much faster with bronze?
Very yes.

[tiny tiger]

I mean I’m all for adding more ways to play the game

[errant knoll]

Imagine progressing to the mistlands for the first time and you have to navigate around with like -80 or -90% movement speed

[gray sand]

Does Elder fucking melt to the Bronze Spear? Yes.

[tiny tiger]

Mistlands with fat roll

[mellow lava]

Can you just lead them to a skeleton tower and let the skeleton in said tower afk farm the troll. Yes

[gray sand]

I miss the original Dead Raiser recipe...

[nocturne wolf]

I’d rather see a new shield type than a new armor type, but I don’t know what it could be. A new shield hasn’t been introduced since black forest.

[gray sand]

It required a Rancid trophy.
Was such a brilliant move.

[rocky widget]

what exactly are you talking about? theres plenty shields and bucklers

[tiny tiger]

Buckler, regular shield, tower shield…

[errant knoll]

Besides, you can kinda vary between tank builds and more lightning bruiser builds using the same existing armor by just eating different foods

[tiny tiger]

What niche would another shield fill

[mellow lava]

We got buckler. Standard round shield & tower. That's essentially all three. As for armor

[nocturne wolf]

A new type of shield hasn’t been introduced since then. These are the same as previous shields with more block armor.

[gray sand]

Throwable.

Captain Ameriking.

[nocturne wolf]

We got magic armor though, so that’s something new

[mellow lava]

As for armors. We have heavium, medium & light. Not any proper heavy sets just standard ones

[vital umbra]

i aaaaaalllways like more armour, more drip....someone was bothered by that word earlier.

[tiny tiger]

What about elemental shields

[rocky widget]

well yes, but what other kind of shield would you want?

[nimble aurora]

good point actually, food is lowkey more important than armor so just eat more health food ig

[tiny tiger]

Flaming shield to match the flaming sword

[gray sand]

Spiked shield that does damage on block (tower shield only)

[tiny tiger]

Porcupine shield lol

[nimble aurora]

deathquito spiked shield?

[gray sand]

Yes.

[errant knoll]

Max hp is healthy for block power too lol, literally what a tanky build wants to prioritise

[rocky widget]

besides, i would say the barrier can be considered a magic shield

[gray sand]

Would give you a reason to actually use tower shields.

[rocky widget]

the blood magic staff

[tiny tiger]

I think tower shields are definitely designed with multiplayer in mind

[nimble aurora]

exactly, i always have HHS but id take triple health if i wanted more block power

[nimble aurora]

yeah, lowkey kinda useless for solo players

[tiny tiger]

like a 4 player squad in Ashland’s with a ranger mage tank and berserker

man I can’t wait to get my hands on the catapult

[nimble aurora]

if my friends didn’t prefer fucking overwatch over valheim, we’d definitely run that

[errant knoll]

Eh, they're allowed their preferences. Valheim isn't for everyone

[nimble aurora]

im just saying it would be nice to play my favourite game with my best friends…

[tiny tiger]

I’ve never been into shooters all too much personally

[vital umbra]

I wish there was in the plaiins like....a warhammer...a spear.......well i actually can't think of anything else thats not fair enough progression gaps, a bow probably wouldn't fit, maybe a two handed sword or another two handed axe.

[errant knoll]

It is sad when no friends irl seem to want to play, I get it lol

[tiny tiger]

But I also didn’t grow up on them so

[nimble aurora]

i dont mind overwatch, it can just get incredibly frustrating

[nimble aurora]

yeah thats exactly my situation

[tiny tiger]

Exploration and building games have always been my thing

[nimble aurora]

they tried it for like 2 hrs and said ‘its just a minecraft clone’ and promptly closed the game

[tiny tiger]

Terraria, minecraft etc

[gray sand]

Get better friends 😏

[nimble aurora]

which lowkey hurt me to my soul but yk

[tiny tiger]

Man that’s a shame it’s so much more than that

[errant knoll]

Funnily enough my boyfriend introduced me to valheim, but they play like, creative mode building, they don't like the adventure aspect of the game

[nimble aurora]

exactly, i wouldnt have 1200 hrs in it if i didnt enjoy it

[vital umbra]

That wasn't very tactful

[nimble aurora]

exploration is like the best partttt tho

[vital umbra]

also you know what it is odin-damn late, goodnight chat ily 🧡

[nimble aurora]

not at all, no

[tiny tiger]

Maybe by 1.0 the game will be more friendly to new players I know a fair few people who only played for half an hour and never got into it too much

[nimble aurora]

til tmr king

[tiny tiger]

Goodnight

[lunar sapphire]

Go off king

fax, no printer

[nimble aurora]

ayyy

[gray sand]

Pdf

[nimble aurora]

brisbane been heat fucking you again subject?

ik it has for me

[errant knoll]

His thoughts on it is that when he tried exploring he was really bad and kept dying, ended up judt using godmode to do everything and realised he wasn't having fun actually playing the game without console, so prefers to build things sometimes but otherwise doesn't play

[nimble aurora]

thats fair enough, softlocking through death is an issue for a lot of people

[tiny tiger]

I almost got spawn camped when swamp first invaded me this playthrough

[errant knoll]

My very first time entering the mistlands like a year ago ruined my save at the time and it took me until 2 weeks ago to play again

[tiny tiger]

Having no better solution for the mist than a sword some lights and a floating wisp does suck

[nocturne wolf]

The wisplight is good enough, if you could see any further it just wouldn’t feel misty.

[lunar sapphire]

I'm enjoying the winter season atm

[opal torrent]

For me I even offered to buy them the game but they said it looked horrible and wouldn’t play if they got it for free

[tiny tiger]

What about after the queen wisps are released in the mistlands and roam throughout providing as much visibility as the player wisp light

[errant knoll]

My problem was more where I died with no portal or way to recover without just grinding new gear sets entirely

[tiny tiger]

I think it would look cool and provide a decent middle ground if they can find a good ratio idk how much performance would suffer tho probably a lot

What happened to your previous armor

[errant knoll]

I'd died previously in some very bad spots but never something that actually ruined the save, this playthrough I got to mistlands and died a few times again and even recovering gear in that was manageable, i would have been fine if I didn't die while trying to establish a foothold

[tiny tiger]

I think best way for mistlands is to explore with fenris locate key resources then head back in with padded tbh

but like it’s hard to prepare appropriately your first time when you don’t know what to expect

[errant knoll]

I'd died in an infested mine through padded armor and bonemass buff lol, I got pushed by a seeker soldier into a very, very bad spot

[tiny tiger]

Ouch

God I can’t imagine 2 star seekers on hard mode

[errant knoll]

Recovered it with wolf armor, the benefit of dying is you know exactly what you have to deal with when you return so even if there's weaker armor you can usually play smart

[cold elm]

Keeping mats for a spare karve, wisp and some decent health food at home/current outpost help ease a lot of the pain of recovery. Possibly your previous set of armour but you don't really want to fill your inv. so much that you can't do a full item recovery in one go for the speed boost to get back out.

[errant knoll]

Going to ashlands first time though and I've died here less than mistlands so far up at the same amount of time day wise into progression

[tiny tiger]

how are you finding the Ashland’s in general?

[errant knoll]

"How would anyone do this with a melee build" is something I catch myself thinking A LOT

There's so many enemies haha

The flipside though is that nothing catches me by surprise I can usually see everything coming

[nocturne wolf]

A lot of jumping is always the solution

[tiny tiger]

No mist lol

[errant knoll]

There's specifically no combo of mist + Gjall haha

I didn't find gjalls fun to fight in any capacity, for me they felt like the worst kind of difficulty, and it's got absolutely nothing to do with the gjall and everything to do with the mist and how little the wisplight actually reveals around you

[cold elm]

Are you playing without sound? 🙂

[nimble aurora]

yup…familiar story

[errant knoll]

No, can hear them.coming, doesn't matter when they're firing at you from places you can't see, or it sounds like they're behind you so I turn around, shoot into thin air and nope, they were actually in front of me all along!

And like I put it like this.

I cam fight them, and deal with them without dying. But absolutely nothing about it is fun

[nimble aurora]

once theyd tried to claim that sea of thieves was better than valheim, i was done

[lunar sapphire]

If you’ve turned around to where you thought they were they’d be behind you not in front

Or to the side, if they’re truly in front of you and you don’t seem them then I have questions 🥰

[cold elm]

Hmm, if you can't see them they shouldn't be able to hit you neither except for the splash/their buddies. Generally I find mist a non-issue if there's an active gjall around.
When you hear them try looking around for friendlies preferably without going "forward" to trigger more enemies.

[rocky widget]

gjall do produce a orange-reddish glowing area in the mist so look out for that

[errant knoll]

Don't know what to say, maybe it's something to do with my draw distance settings or something, but I have them where rheh are for performance

[rocky widget]

and yes, i hate gjall with a passion

[errant knoll]

Like I'm not saying there isn't ways to deal with them I just think everything about the way you fight gjalls is the worst, most unfun thing in the game

[rocky widget]

however, when you want to...lets say relocate some dvergr there is no better ally

[errant knoll]

Ah right, cause using cheese to move dvergr about in ways devs clearly never intended is definitely a valid defense against gjalls

[rocky widget]

i was actually talking about destroying their entire structure

[errant knoll]

If it werent for those you'd either have to kill them or not relocate haha

Oh you mean kiting the gjall into them.

Yeah, i did that a few times

[rocky widget]

yes. i once had a gjall and 1 star soldier demolish half the tower before the dvergr died and then proceeded to let them break the rest of the structure

[errant knoll]

Get dvergr extractors without needing to kill them due to splash damage

[rocky widget]

lots of mats

[tacit crystal]

I think Gjall is one of the coolest enemy mob in game - the sounds afar and when it spots you and the terrifying presence when it comes off from the mist suddenly.

[errant knoll]

I'd just prefer not to let the structures break because o don't like building from scratch, I prefer rebuilding/restoring and existing structures tend to drop less mats when destroyed

[rocky widget]

agree to disagree on that one

[rocky widget]

true but it was basically free so

the only fun thing to do with gjalls is to jump on them and slap them to death with a melee weapon

[errant knoll]

My first base In mistlands was a dvergr encampment thag got mostly killed by a gjall, I only had to finish off 2 low health dvergr

Didn't need to add anything to it , just use the new craft stations and go back through the portal to prior base for cooking and bombs and stuff

[cold elm]

Yeah I don't like kiting gjall on structures I'd like to take over neither. If you get a gjall near plains you can usually also get a "fighter" swarm to help out. Gjall don't deal well with airborne attackers

If you don't like a particular fighting style to deal with an enemy, get someone else to do the fighting.

[errant knoll]

What annoys me about the gjall more than anything else is how long it takes to fight some them

To the point where if you're unlucky you can lose an entire in game day to fighting 3 of them when you set aside a goal you wanted to get done in that day and it just annoys

It felt nowhere near as annoying dealing with abominations or trolls on progression and I think a lot of that was to do with "at least I get nice gear from killing them"

Gjalls sometimes feel like they serve no purpose other than to just piss me off, even though I know you can use bilebags for bombs. Its jurt going to that effort for crafting one time use things feels so awful

[cold elm]

3 of them and nothing else done in a day sounds like pretty bad luck/aiming. 🙂 I'll agree the loot from gjall seem a bit lacking vs the effort required.

[errant knoll]

When you're early into the biome, don't have new gear yet and you're also dealing with ground enemies, and ticks and constantly fighting stamina cause you have to use stamina to draq the regular bow? Yeah, it's time consuming

[cold elm]

Well that's not really a gjall problem as much as a new biome problem. Similar experience can be had in the forest/swamp. Rushing in is always asking for trouble.

[errant knoll]

Progressing Black forest is nothing close, at all lol, and swamp isn't that bad either

[rocky widget]

the problem is gjall are just op. it is a 1)flying 2)high hp and 3)high damage enemy that also spawns adds. you dont get to have all of that you stupid gjall, pick 2

[errant knoll]

Honestly I'd be fine if gjall were made slightly weaker to be less annoying if seeker soldiers or regular seekers had something to give them a bit more bite

[cold elm]

I don't think they have particular high hp, just need to hit them right. Try shooting an abo with non fire arrows, I'd say that takes about as long as hitting a gjall wrong.
Main problem with gjall is if you fight them along with seekers/the terrain (and without fire resist). So when you hear them stop progressing and prepare to deal with the gjall.
I think it's kinda similar to your first Troll/Abo encounter but granted harder as you should have progressed further when you encounter gjall.

[errant knoll]

"Need to hit them right.

Also in the midt, where you might know where it is but not exactly which direction it's facing and can't get a clean shot at its weak spot

To get thag clean shot usually requires getting a bit closer, but then you run into it's tick adds, or risk other enemies joining.

Nah, it's not convincing to me that other than just "find dvergr if any are nearby" or "just run" there is exactly 0 way of consistently dealing with them

[cold elm]

Facing doesn't really matter but the fire comes out the front so you can use that as a guide 😉

[errant knoll]

the facing very much does matter cause sometimes it moves away and then comes back, and it's useful to know whether its moving away or not to get that shot, or indeed to process whether or not you need to start strafing

Moving away vs moving closer affects how you need to shoot it to hit the underside

Then when it turns, is it turning left, or right? Is it coming back straight away or is it keeping distance to fire for a bit?

All in a space I can't see

[cold elm]

If it's moving away it's not shooting at you, so use that time to deal with any ticks, stamina/health, possibly getting cover. It does sound a bit like you might have a draw distance issue though.

[errant knoll]

Again.

I know how I can deal with it, worked it out after the first few engagements. Doesn't make it magically more fun, or less annoying.

I have fun fighting Stone golems.

I have fun running into plains villages going yolo and then suddenly finding I need to deal with multiple 2 stars.

I have fun getting mobbed by enemies in the ashlands.

I have exactly 0 fun dealing with a gjall.

[rotund parrot]

Just hit the thing, the weak spot is nice if you have a clear shot but most of the time you won't but you can still easily hit it and the poison effect will make it easily visible even in the mist

[mellow lava]

To be fair I'd rather deal with fighting a Morgen and a horde of Ashland skeletons than a gjall

Gjalls aren't all hard. If you have a decent ranged weapon ofc. , but its just time consuming & a boring fight

"Cool a gjall. I don't need it's drops I'll avoid it"

99% of encounters with that mob

[errant knoll]

I do think it's the psychological feeling that it's a waste of time plays a big part in how much I don't enjoy it

[cold elm]

Yeah I think this is a decent summary kinda like golems. And to some extent trolls/abos once you got the armour you want.

[errant knoll]

You have to kill quite a few trolls and aboms before you're totally done with the resources they drop

Sure the upgrades have diminishing returns in their investment/reward but it's like 14 of both kinda to fully upgrade their armor sets

And honestly, black forest progression doesn't take that long

[cold elm]

Not really unless you're equipping an army. Going above level 2 isn't really worth the effort, you can spend the time getting the next set instead.

[errant knoll]

Or you go above level 2 and skip the next set

[gray sand]

Worth is subjective to the individual.

[errant knoll]

And especially for the abominations, some of that root armor is relevant for an extremely long time

[cold elm]

Like Sevrahn said. it's individual. I only really care for the root chest piece and the mask mostly kept at level 1 for the swamp or getting tar.

[rotund parrot]

I don't see where the effort is, just doing a bunch of crypts to get the iron you need should net you more than enough roots to upgrade the root armor to max and it's an easy way to get all the guck you need for the draugr fang at the same time

[cold elm]

What crypts do you visit to get root? 🙂 I've had plenty of swamps with crypt access without running in to abos. Usually have to go look for abos to get the chest upgrades. Also iron needs vary, similar to bronze you don't really need to craft/upgrade everything.

[errant knoll]

Everything is better than searching for those wretched turnip seeds 🤣

[rotund parrot]

Oh I see, you will start to understand why you need iron when you kill moder and see all the new things you unlock

[cold elm]

Even fighting gjall? 😉

[errant knoll]

Actually yeah lol, at least with s gjall I get something and I know I'm gonna get something, even if its not great.

I can run through several swamps without finding a single turnip seed and they gate food progression as a whole

[rotund parrot]

Can't remember the last time I spent more than 2 minutes to get turnip seeds

[gray sand]

The one thing worse than finding Turnips is the fact we start WITHOUT PANTS 😭

[cold elm]

Airflow!

[errant knoll]

With turnips it's luck, I tend to notice that if a swamp has some it usually has quite a few

[hollow crag]

I never realised how op actually is the polerm in this game, i had level 3 broze polerm, and one secondary attack and then follow up with 2-3 attack and the fulling is already dead

[errant knoll]

But many just completely lack seeds it seems

[cold elm]

Yeah staggering is really powerful.

[hollow crag]

I managed to find turnips pretty easily, even on some super small swamp that i didnt think its possible

[errant knoll]

I went through my first playthrough of the game without finding a single turnip seed

[hollow crag]

its usually on lands of the swamp that is connecting to another biome

[errant knoll]

And dealing with worse foods for much of the game as a result

[rotund parrot]

You can't find what you are not looking for

[hollow crag]

thats my experience

[cold elm]

Best swamps are small ones next to forest with an abo spawn, turnips and a few draugr. Repeat visits to stock up.

[hollow crag]

if you just go look for turnips around the edges of the biome its a lot easier

[errant knoll]

That has not been my experience, at all

[gray sand]

I have always found them mid-biome.

[errant knoll]

Same, mid biome, usually only if it's big

[cold elm]

Like you said it's RNG when it comes to turnips.

[hollow crag]

I got a really good swamp in this world im playing rn, its a very small swamp but there's bog witch and suprisingly bonemass as well, 2 surling spawners and like 4-5 crypt, but the swamp is very small compared to any other bonemass swamp i seen

[errant knoll]

Turnips just seem way rarer than Carrot seeds.

Sometimes onions can be annoying but they don't gate the entirety of food progression if you don't find some

[cold elm]

I'd say with my 2300ish hours it'a about 50/50 if turnips are on the edge or mid. But easier to spot on the edge usually.

[hollow crag]

I almost always find turnips now

I used to struggle, but then it became a lot easier when i know to look on the edges of the biome

Its actually a reason for it too, because there are more land mass around biome edges connecting to usually black forest or plains and turnips can only spawn in areas with more land

[cold elm]

Not sure if the turnips are actually more rare. They're hard to spot mid swamp though compared to the carrots that stand out from the forest surrounding them.

[tiny tiger]

Honestly I think it’s just random

[hollow crag]

yellow flowers are not hard to spot just have to stay focus

[tiny tiger]

I had a game where they were on the edge when I was still in pre elder so I quickly grabbed them and other games where I couldn’t find them while exploring the entire swamp

[hollow crag]

the only reason why turnips are harder is because the swamps are filled with water and turnips cant spawn in water, there are less areas in the swamp that they can spawn in

[gray sand]

Blue flowers with red thorns are not hard to spot. Just need to not be color blind.

[cold elm]

They are when you're busy looking at the sky to spot wraiths 🙂

[hollow crag]

They are almost always at the edges cuz those areas has the most land

[tiny tiger]

Don’t hunt for them at night lol

[hollow crag]

I usually avoid swamp at night unless ready

[fallen zephyr]

Good advice across the board. Valheim monsters mostly come out at night... mostly.

[rotund parrot]

It's the extra monsters coupled with the cold effect which makes fighting and healing harder that makes nights a lot more dangerous

[fallen zephyr]

Or... you can just appreciate the (paraphrased) Aliens quote 😛

[cold elm]

Bah was about to ask which Aliens movie had Valheim monsters 😉

[fallen zephyr]

I let my pedantry guard down for a moment but, thankfully, Discord allows editing 😉

[leaden elbow]

I have a house idea and it needs a large flat location, but every meadows location i find is very vertical, hill-y. Is there like, an area that the game generates with flatter terrain?

Do meadows even generate flat, ever

[potent osprey]

not really, you'll need to use the hoe and flatten what you need

or build a flat foundation on relatively flat land

[cold elm]

The hoe exists, but plains is probably the biome with the biggest areas of flat terrain.

[rotund parrot]

You often find meadows and plains with a wide area that's within 4-6 meter of each other which is easy to all flatten and doesn't leave a huge dirt wall

[leaden elbow]

Damn i guess itll have to wait. Still at early-mid iron age. Every time i come near the plains i get insta killed by deathsquitoes

[placid copper]

I still haven’t gotten far enough to know how to deal with them lmao

[cold elm]

The biome where you first find iron has the best "passive" counter for deathsquitoes.

[leaden elbow]

Elaborate

[placid copper]

Swamp? And what is that counter?

[shy marlin]

Root harnesk

[cold elm]

Root harnesk

[placid copper]

Ah. That makes sense. Also what did you mean by “passive”?

[leaden elbow]

The root chestplate? Ooh i have that already

[leaden elbow]

Stabby stab does way less stabby stab

30-40dmg draugr arrows got turned into 1dmg with that lol

Ill go 2x iron and the chestplate

[placid copper]

Ah. I was gonna skip out on root gear. Reason being I was just gonna run Troll Hide until Fenris.

Might get the chest piece tho to deal with them

[leaden elbow]

I dont know what that is but okay!

You mean fenrir? Fenrir and Garm?

[cold elm]

Passive in the sense that it basically turns it in to "regular" mosquito bites. You can counter them pretty easy with weapons if you spot them before they spot you.

[vocal jackal]

Root harnesk gives pierce resist, so it's deceptively good at letting you evade damage

[rotund parrot]

May want to avoid any root pieces when fighting cultists

[cold elm]

or Yag 🙂

[vocal jackal]

I'm gonna keep my T4 one for a long time

[leaden elbow]

Terraria cultist moment

[placid copper]

It’s armor you get later, dw about it. It’s from the mountains.

It’s like the troll hide in that it’s mobility based armor. Light.

Not very tanky

[vocal jackal]

Would be cool if plains had a light armor variant as well tbh, maybe ring/chainmail with linen thread?

[leaden elbow]

Staying here is a spoiler radiation hazard
-1 spoiler dmg
-1 spoiler dmg

[placid copper]

Yup.

[leaden elbow]

Bye bye (for now ofc)

[placid copper]

Spoilers in every dedicated game discord

Cya.

[placid copper]

I’m trying to think of what to do there tbh.

Cause the next light armor I can get is Fenris. Or I get root but.

I’m probs just gonna get the chest piece for pierce resistance

[vocal jackal]

Max out the chestpiece if you want the best part

I run it with padded helmet and fenris greaves, gives me +1% total movespeed with 66 armor and pierce resist

[placid copper]

I’m using the two handed hammers so mobility is very important

[cold elm]

Yeah Fen + Root chest is probably the best light combo for Plains, just watch out for the shamans and the boss ofc.

[warm sandal]

I use root usually only until i can get my hands on wolf and fenris and never go back 😄 I have never had a lot of trouble with them squitos has been a loong time i have been dead from being stung 😄

[placid copper]

Can I get Fenris around the same time?

Is that doable? Are both in the same range?

[warm sandal]

Fenris can be gotten from the frost caves

if you brave the mountains you can get it 😄

[placid copper]

That’s the issue. I don’t have the equipment to touch those rn. I start freezing instantly

Idk how to fix that

[warm sandal]

yep that is usually the issue... you need to get to make frost mead first and then go to the mountains 😄

[placid copper]

And how do I do that again?

[warm sandal]

i do not know if you have been to the swamps yet? if you were not -1dmg on spoilers again sorry 😄

[placid copper]

I’ve been to the swamps before

[cold elm]

Root should come first. Fenris is sorta on par with padded. I think the intended progression is mountains before plains. They're about the same diffuclty wise with the mountains having a more permanent elemental challenge.

[warm sandal]

then you should check your mead kettil for the recipe 😄

[placid copper]

Ah. In my current world I don’t have Iron

THAT would be my issue

[warm sandal]

well.. no iron... no ketill no frost mead... +

[placid copper]

Luckily I have a massive mountain near my base so

[warm sandal]

well... you can always go up and place fires ... a lot of fires... but i would not want to do that.. i would go get me some iron 😄

[cold elm]

You don't technically need iron for mountains / frost caves. But it does help especially if you want to do any mining there. 🙂

[placid copper]

First imma get me some Troll Hide

Cause I have yet to beat the second boss

And maybe an Iron Sledge

[warm sandal]

well... if you at the troll armor stage you might want to NOT consider going for fenris armor ..them frost caves are no joke 😄

[placid copper]

Got a two star wolf tho

Dragged it to my base lmao

[warm sandal]

which you can not bring INTO a frost cave that is where the ingredients are

[placid copper]

Darn

Thought I could unleash my army in there

[vocal jackal]

Honey, thistle, bloodbags and greydwarf eyes

[rotund parrot]

Wolfs are pretty useless in mountains

[vocal jackal]

Would be wise to stock up on those while you get iron

[placid copper]

YOU DARE SPEAK ILL OF MY 2 STAR GOOD BOY?!

[cold elm]

Also make sure you breed that 2 star before putting it in harms way.

[rotund parrot]

I am simply trying to keep him alive!

[warm sandal]

hmmmm i never made more then two batches of frost mead in any of my runs 😄 so the most difficult stuff is 8 bloodbags for me 😄 lol...

[placid copper]

He is in my house comfortably chilling with my 2 1 star boars

[vocal jackal]

Yeah, I mostly meant the ingredients. They're very useful later on as well

[placid copper]

I’m gonna get that 2 star boar.

[cold elm]

Ok I meant breed it with another wolf 😉

[warm sandal]

i have a slight tendency to run low on greydwarf eyes that is true

[placid copper]

Any? Or another 2 star?

[cold elm]

2 star is best as that guarantees 2 star offspring, but any will do eventually.

[fallen zephyr]

Spend a couple of night-times in the black forest. Or camp a nest. 🙂

[placid copper]

So basically getting a regular one will be fine.

[vocal jackal]

Bloodbags are always in short supply at my base, but I have two chests of greydwarf eyes lol

They keep trying their luck against my frostner

[placid copper]

Bro these things keep walking up to my property atp. I don’t even have to go anywhere. They just throw a rock at my door so I introduce them to Stagbreaker

[rotund parrot]

I always have a portal at a greydwarf spawner that I protect just building a 2x2 wall around it, I farm it for like 10 minutes from time to time to get 50 more eyes. I like to keep a brute alive and parry all it's attack and just kill the other things that spawn, makes it less boring and you level blocking at the same time

[warm sandal]

yeah that is what ti usually do if i run low 😄 the faster I progress the more likely i need to go back and get extra 😄 my one character is down to ONE red mushroom now.... gonna need go foraging for a bit instead of hunting fuling

[cold elm]

Yeah as long as one of them is 2 star you have a chance of 2 star offspring.

[fallen zephyr]

Stars are exponential. A normal boar drops one meat, a one-star drops two, a two-star drops four. What you determine is worth the effort is the only consideration.

[placid copper]

I more-so meant for breeding

Breeding a 2 star with a standard is fine since I’ll eventually get another 2 star

[fallen zephyr]

I get that. I presumed you're breeding them to kill them.

[placid copper]

… I’m breeding them to make an army

Not to kill.

I’m making a Wolfpack out here

[fallen zephyr]

Oh right. As far as i know it's 50/50. Whatever the parents are will determine the offspring on a 1:1 basis.

[tiny tiger]

2 2 stars breeding is a 2 star guaranteed?

[placid copper]

So 1 2 star and 1 standard is a coin flip each time.

[rotund parrot]

No, they always have the same level as the parents

[fallen zephyr]

And a no-star breeding with a two-star will produce either a two-star or a no-star. Not a one-star. (Happy to be corrected, but I think that's legit).

[tiny tiger]

There should be a way to invest in your animals for a chance of getting higher stars, like if you make a pen with feeding troughs water maybe some kind of recreational thing

[cold elm]

I'm pretty sure offspring is always the same quality as the "mother" but which of the pair is mother is 50/50.

[placid copper]

I’ll take that tbh. I’d rather not hunt a second 2 star with leather armor 💀

[fallen zephyr]

Agreed. Add it to the #suggestions channel

[fallen zephyr]

Hell yeh! If you found a two-star, breed it until you have a second one, then kill the no-stars and profit.

[tiny tiger]

Added

[placid copper]

… I’m not killing the no stars. They would become my at home pets

[cold elm]

Wait until you learn about wolf jerky 😉

[placid copper]

Guard dogs for my home or just to chill in my house

[fallen zephyr]

Sounds to me like you're starist 😛

[placid copper]

I’m a dog lover. Last thing on my mind is killing them

More of them are better for me

[cold elm]

Fair enough but you might want to move them away from the breeding pair at least with the way breeding works in game.

Animals are not very social in this game, they get shy quick.

[placid copper]

Yeah no I plan to. I have a whole fenced in area around my house so I could cut part of it off for them to roam in

While the others breed

[rotund parrot]

Wolfs stop breeding if there's more than 4 of them within 10 meter so if you want an army each time they have a pup you should let it out

[placid copper]

I have two one star boars too. Probably gonna breed them twice, move the babies to another area for food and then keep the two I have

And just breed the other two

[tiny tiger]

Does that breeding trap still work where it’s in the air

[placid copper]

Can other people breed and kill my boars btw? I mean I assume other players can kill them

But idk about breeding them

[tiny tiger]

I believe so? I don’t think the ward totem would prevent it either

[cold elm]

The only really ownership is player vs wild.

[rotund parrot]

They will breed automatically if they are rendered in and fit all the requirement (under the limit of them, being close enough to another and being fed)

[placid copper]

Ah. So I better make sure people in my server know not to touch my Boars or Wolf lol

[cold elm]

or maybe that should be tamed vs wild to make it more clear.

[placid copper]

I’m just wondering if I could give bred wolves to others

Or not.

[cold elm]

You can in the sense that if they pet them they will follow them

[rotund parrot]

I'd say the opposite, tames need to be taken care of often so you want people to butcher the boar for exemple, whose limit is 5, so Ideally you butcher 3, give the 2 remaining 1 food each and they will have 3 more babies untill they reach that limit.

[placid copper]

Ok that’s what I was wondering

[vocal jackal]

Damn, the hunt event is crazy

Was farming finewood in the plains and suddenly 50 wolves jump me 🤣

[placid copper]

Boars will not follow though right? They just kinda roam and protect?

[cold elm]

If you want to play it safe keep a breeding pair "secret", preferably in a cave of sorts, with as little player structures around as possible.

[vocal jackal]

Would've been fine if nighttime, rested buff running out and me being wet from fighting the waves on the shore for wood didn't converge all at once

[placid copper]

I don’t want to keep it secret. I plan to breed my boars twice, take the other boars to a different cage and let THAT be the food farm

[cold elm]

Yeah moving tamed boars is a pain. A harpoon helps though.

[placid copper]

And leave my named two at my house

So people know not to mess with them

I’m in a casual server with friends so

They’d get the hint I think.

[tiny tiger]

Oh I just found something animals inherit the stars of the animal that gave birth to them, it’s not random

[cold elm]

Good point, but naming them wont keep them safe from game mechanics or trolls (both ingame and the out of games ones).

[tiny tiger]

So you want the 2 star to get pregnant and it’s guaranteed 2 star offspring

[placid copper]

So it’s 50 50 who the mother is

[tiny tiger]

Oh yeah that’s also true

[rotund parrot]

There's no mother and father, they call all be pregnant and have offspring

[placid copper]

Game mechanics like what? The raids? Yeah that’s why I made sure they were protected

I also made sure nothing can spawn inside the area

[cold elm]

Yeah mainly raids or non raid visitors depending on where your home is.

[fallen zephyr]

Yeh, it's the floating hearts thing that confuses the issue. You don't know which of the two animals involved are actually the pregnant one.

[placid copper]

My home is in the starter biome so

In a clearing by the ocean

[rotund parrot]

Why do people think only one of them can be pregnant at a time? I am so confused

[tiny tiger]

If you have an a load of workbenches all around raids can’t spawn right

[fallen zephyr]

Really? Please enlighten us on how you've been determining breeding animal sex up until now?

[rotund parrot]

They don't have sex and they all have babies and they all can have babies at the same exact time with one another too

[fallen zephyr]

I could be wrong, but I feel like workbenches are the trigger for raids, not the avoidance of them.

[placid copper]

That’s right and wrong I believe

[cold elm]

You're sorta right but the benches do also prevent mob spawns but you need to cover a wider area than one bench will prevent to keep it safe

and mobs will wander in and smash benches.

[fallen zephyr]

Any chance of less vagaries?

[azure yacht]

That literally is still random

[misty dove]

anyone wanna come kick it with me in vc im 420 friendly

[rotund parrot]

Jesus fucking christ

[fallen zephyr]

I interpreted that @tiny tiger was suggesting that the birthing parent was the determining factor. I don't know that's correct, but the suggestion is not random.

[rotund parrot]

I think some people never did any breeding and have just no clue how it works

[cold elm]

or they just gathered up a bunch of randoms, fed them and did other things in the area 🙂

[fallen zephyr]

You're right. I'm an incel and the only thing I've come close to breeding with is a sock.

[placid copper]

HUH?!

[rotund parrot]

Let me spell it out for you, nothing is random, take a 0 star boar and a 2 star boar, give them 2 food, both of them will get hearts above them after some time being near one another. The 0 star will have a 0 star offspring and the 2 star will have a 2 star offspring

[dark dirge]

does the stats of my character get carried over if i create new world?

[cold elm]

got to offset the sock loss from the washer some how.

[azure yacht]

And the fact that one OR the other is the one that gets pregnant isn't random?

[vocal jackal]

I wasn't too far off, 37 wolf pelts after all is said & done

[rotund parrot]

It's not one or the other

[fallen zephyr]

Characters and worlds are separate. You can take any character into any world as part of the game startup.

[azure yacht]

It... Literally is...

It's a 50% chance that one OR the other gets pregnant. That is random

[candid basalt]

They both get pregnant

[cold elm]

Depends how many are in the area

[rotund parrot]

I did so much breeding and they will all pop babies at about the same time after being fed as they can all be pregnant

[fallen zephyr]

No they don't. If you have two animals, they can breed up to twice - impregnating both. But each breeding will only produce one offpsring carried by one animal.

[cold elm]

With just 2 adults, yes eventually both will be pregnant but once the 2 first offsrping appear only 1 of the adults will carry the 3rd offspring

[candid basalt]

Put both in the air and they will pop out piggies like popcorn

[cold elm]

unless you get the offspring 10 meters away from the breeding pair.

[fallen zephyr]

We don't separate children from their parents here.

[azure yacht]

I read the wiki and it does say both can give birth...

But it doesn't state it's at the same time, only seems like it uses an example to explain the star inheritance.

In all the moments I've bred tames, I only ever see ONE offspring, never two at the same time

[cold elm]

Stay around longer 🙂

[azure yacht]

And if I have a 0 star and a starred creature, multiple times in a row I've seen the offspring inherit the no star and only getting a starred one after multiple attempts

It's not at the "same" time

[fallen zephyr]

Correct. No tamed animal has a sex; every one of them can impregnate and also be pregnant. The argument appears to be around whether two animals breeding (i.e. floating hearts graphic) produces one or two offspring (i.e. one or both animals become pregnant). The answer is that an of them can become pregnant, but only ever one of them per mating.

[azure yacht]

Meaning that it is still a random 50% chance

[fallen zephyr]

You're confusing conflating randomness with probability, but what you mean to say is correct.

[azure yacht]

So... Technically correct?

[fallen zephyr]

It's the best kind of correct 😛

[rotund parrot]

So you are just assuming that a pregnant one can't mate with another one, causing it to get hearts above it too and also result in another offspring despite it happening constantly?

[fallen zephyr]

No. Pregnancy status has no bearing on mating capability.

[fair cairn]

my minds in the gutters and i hate my self for it in this specific scenario

[fallen zephyr]

You be you, my dude. As long as you're not hurting anyone else.

[cold elm]

The only randomness is which gets pregnant first. I don't think I've ever seen both give birth at the exact same time but all the times I've witnessed actual birth the offspring has had the same number of stars as the parent it came out of. A pregnant animal will affect a non pregrant causing the other to get pregant if the "population" limit is not reached. The unborns do not count towards limit.

Bold of you to assume the only breedable animals in the game are hogs...

[fallen zephyr]

All good. Just don't tell David Cameron.

[fallen zephyr]

Who said that?

Lox aren't exactly the poster-child for leanness.

Sorry.. .I was reacting, not responding.

[fair cairn]

well no but they are a mix between reptiles and a ox..... arent they?
and i cant picture a fat reptile

[cold elm]

Hey! They're just big furred...

[fair cairn]

big boned

[cold elm]

there's that gutter mind again...

[odd helm]

https://tenor.com/view/concerned-niamh-gif-20658532

[plush umbra]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-watching-cat-fun-cat-face-cat-scared-cat-what-gif-17567551

[fallen zephyr]

I stand my "You be you" statement.

[odd helm]

Unfortunately this server is public so imma need to do some trimming for the kiddos

[placid copper]

Some of y'all's heads are so far down the gutter you can't even see the light anymore.

[dark dirge]

how many weapon do yall bring when leaving ur base

[placid copper]

Calm down.

[fallen zephyr]

One-hander, shield, (cross)bow. (EDIT: And my brain, the greatest weapon of all! Plus, deez guns pow pow)

[placid copper]

Two hander and a bow.

That's all I need.

[plush umbra]

i usually bring about 3 melee weapons, only start using ranged with mistlands for crossbows

[placid copper]

I use ranged against the Elder cause fire arrows

[hidden gorge]

depends how fighty I'm feeling. sometimes just an axe. other times, a whole arsenal of half a dozen staffs and bows and pointy sticks

[fallen zephyr]

Wait wait... so implications towards that incident with David Cameron invoke "trimming", but I get a time out for even typing the full name of DJT?

[odd helm]

Yes

That last one is automatic, so

[fallen zephyr]

Yeh, no shit.

[silver oracle]

is troll armor enough for the 2nd boss?

[cold elm]

For weapons pointy, blunt, sharp (typically an axe doing double duty), some kind of aoe and a bow for when I'm feeling lazy.

[fallen zephyr]

Words don't hate. Only context does.

[hidden gorge]

yes

[cold elm]

In general yes unless you're the designated tank of the group.

[silver oracle]

i got a bronze helmet and troll armor, including some bronze tools, i guess yeah i can do it

[fallen zephyr]

If you plan to defeat him via social media, it's the best!

[hidden gorge]

just keep it out of here kthxbye

[silver oracle]

playing solo and blindly sooo

[placid copper]

Honestly I'd argue even then it's not worth going for a full bronze set

you're better off just skipping and going to Iron instead, especially since the Elder is INSANELY easy if you stack on fire arrows.

Iron's way easier to get.

[cold elm]

Depends on the group size I guess, the more players around the more hitpoint the boss has/deals AFAIK. So if the group depends on the tank keeping the boss in place while taking hits armour could be needed to last long enough.

[placid copper]

What about a group of 5?

or 3?

Cause my server isn't gonna get massive. Most we're gonna have is 5 total. We have 3 rn.

[hidden gorge]

armor is no substitute for situational awareness though. keep an eye out for forest interlopers and elder is a fairly easy fight

[placid copper]

Unironically when I fought that thing I didn't even know what those are. I still don't.

Do you mean like the root things that stick out of the ground?

cause those were never an issue usually.

[hidden gorge]

no, roaming bands of greydwarves or trolls

[placid copper]

Ah. I always clear the area before the fight starts. Never run into em.

[cold elm]

With 3 you can probably get away with a decent tower shield, troll armour and 3 health food. I'd tend to with 3 hitters though instead of a dedicated tank with that group size though. All depends on play style of course.

[azure yacht]

It's an armor you find in the biome the boss is from...

Guess

[fallen zephyr]

Something perhaps new-to-Valheim players don't realise is that noise alerts enemies at a surprisingly decent range. For example, mining a copper vein will bring grey dwarves from all over the place; chopping trees; destroying rocks; it all attracts things that aren't aggroed by visual cues. Always clear your area before a boss fight.

[cold elm]

Sorta opposite of what Big wrote, if you're aware and avoid getting hit you don't really need armour. Heavy armour is for when you rely on 1 person taking the hits to let others focus on just spamming damage. (or you just prefer playing it safe solo)

[placid copper]

Welp, I'm debating on getting back to my world but I need to wait for the others too so.

[hidden gorge]

contrapositive, not opposite*

[cold elm]

I'm sure they'll appreciate the fresh cooked boar when they show up though.

[fallen zephyr]

I feel like stamina and armour are two sides to the 'build' coin. Armour is more tank-y, stamina is for dodgers and movers. With that said, there's some rather unintuitive calculations going on behind the scenes around the effectiveness of armour, so I recommend the 'tanks' hit the wiki about that

[placid copper]

I'm trying to figure out some good stamina foods to use.

[fair cairn]

wellp

[placid copper]

I'm at dark forest working on preparing for the elder so

[fallen zephyr]

Availability is pretty linear. Eat what you've got.

[placid copper]

What's "What I've got" in this case? Lmao

[fair cairn]

anything thats best for where you are, so what moose said

[nocturne wolf]

Specific foods don’t matter as the differences are very small, just use cooked stamina food made with ingredients from your current biome (queen’s jam and carrot soup for Black Forest)

[cold elm]

Veggies for stamina, meat for health generally.

[hidden gorge]

carrots, carrot soup, honey are pretty good choices early game

[placid copper]

I have tons of Honey so.

Idk how to get carrots tho.

or make soup.

[cold elm]

Get seeds and grow them

[fallen zephyr]

Second boss? You're in Black Forest. You've got access to boar, deer, necks, carrots, blueberries, and raspberries. If you've not picked up all of those, there are improvements to be had. (Edit: Oh and honey, yes!).

[placid copper]

And honey. Don't forget Honey.

[placid copper]

How do I get carrot seeds is my question

[nocturne wolf]

Find carrot seeds (white flowers in Black Forest) and then use a cultivator to plant them

[cold elm]

You'll unlock more recipes as you pick up new ingredients / build cooking upgrades

[placid copper]

ah.

[fallen zephyr]

Plants in the Black Forest, or maybe from a chest guarded by Greydwarves

[silver oracle]

GOOD NEWS:

I FOUND THE ELDER'S LOCATION.

[fallen zephyr]

Best. Undergound. Base. Area. Ever.

[merry pebble]

Those don't have any afaik

[fallen zephyr]

Fair, yes. I might be conflating Black Forest with Mountains. In summary - look for carrot plants in black forest, don't rely on chests.

[cold elm]

Yeah pretty sure carrots and turnips are only from flowers (or player chests)

[warm sandal]

meh i am still missing the rancid remains trophy 😦 how sad...

[placid copper]

I can realistically get one seed and profit off it probably

[fallen zephyr]

I nearly didn't correct that. "Carrot pants" is great, but not helpful.

[candid basalt]

One seed grows one carrot which grows three seeds etc

Easy to exponent the growth

[fallen zephyr]

Hell yeh. You'll get three from one plant in the Black Forest, then you plant it, plant those, plant those, plant those. You're golden.

[placid copper]

I can plant them back at my base tho right?

[candid basalt]

Soon you feeding carrots to your piggies because you have so many

[cold elm]

Stay in the swamp age and "farm" the skelly raid.

[merry pebble]

Probably 🙂 i think the || onions || are the only crop you HAVE to get from chest, tho || barely and flax || can be in chests but also growing outside

[fallen zephyr]

You'll need a Cultivator, but yes.

[placid copper]

Do I need water or somethin or?

[fallen zephyr]

Barely doesn't sound like a particularly fruitful crop 😛

[candid basalt]

It rains enough

[fallen zephyr]

There's no mechanic for water; you're all good. Prepare the ground, plant the seeds. The rest is gravy.

[candid basalt]

Barley and flax have to be planted in plains

[nocturne wolf]

You can sleep at noon to skip maximum time and make crops grow faster

[fallen zephyr]

Thems the flax!

[cold elm]

Don't need water (yet). Just seeds, proper soil type and the cultivator.

[merry pebble]

Oh, Its || barley || isnt it xD

[fallen zephyr]

-_-

[candid basalt]

Valheim farmers be so lazy, sleeping at noon

We are farmers bum buh bum bum bumbumbum!

[cold elm]

Does it actually help though? I thought crops were on "fixed time", unlike kilns and forges.

[placid copper]

proper soil type? huh?

[candid basalt]

Certain crops can only be planted in certain biomes

[cold elm]

For carrots it won't really matter but later certain crops will only grow in specific areas

[fallen zephyr]

I don't know how you're changing the time requirements for your kilns and forges, but crops have a fixed time. They differ from animals in that they don't require proximity.

[cold elm]

For kilns/forges if you load them up and sleep the hours they need to process they'll be done at once when you wake up.

[nocturne wolf]

Sleeping will make crops grow faster. Just like how it affects smelters, waves and fermenters.

[merry pebble]

The sleeping indeed accelerates the timer of crops

[fallen zephyr]

Yeh, but that's just time. Crops do the same.

[candid basalt]

Most crops take 4,000-5,000 seconds of world time

So if you sleep that time goes by

[cold elm]

Nice

[candid basalt]

So an hour to an hour and a half roughly if you don’t sleep

[fallen zephyr]

Animals don't though! (AFAIK). Sleeping to make piggies breed doesn't work.

[candid basalt]

Animal time is dependent on you being there and active yes

[fallen zephyr]

That seems kinda creepy that they'll only gestate while I'm watching them 😛

[candid basalt]

Don’t have to watch, just in the area

Privacy fences are real

[fallen zephyr]

No no. You don't understand. If I'm in the area, I have to watch.

[rotund parrot]

I just wait until 3 days has passed, same time and I know they will be all be ready to harvest

[candid basalt]

Plant crops, go do explore/gather for a couple in game days

[cold elm]

No, sleeping would be kinda counterproductive to breeding as animals will only breed when they have fed status and requires 3 timed "loves" with player in range as I recall. They will only feed once a day, so if you slep you might end up just wasting food and getting no babies.

[rotund parrot]

Breeding takes very little time, it's like 2 minutes and they will reach the max and then you need to wait a few days where you don't need to be there until they reach maturity

[candid basalt]

I love teleporting in and all the babies pop into adulthood

[rotund parrot]

It's why you don't want to feed them consistently, it's just a waste, butcher all of them but 2, give one feed each and in 2 minutes they will have breed up to the maximum

[fallen zephyr]

The key aspect of breeding is relative proximity. Check the wiki as to how many animals can be within a certain range to allow breeding. It will revolutionise the way you build pens.

[cosmic igloo]

doing a hard+ playthrough and holy moly atgeir is just like a cheat code lmao

[rotund parrot]

You just need proximity while they mate, which is a very insignificant amount of time compared to waiting for them to reach maturity

[cosmic igloo]

like im clearing 3x spawners in swamp with multiple star enemies just simply spinning all the time

[candid basalt]

I don’t build pens I build breeding towers and put puppy mills to shame

[cold elm]

until 1 of them push you that 1 pixel up the side of 1 pile and you "miss" every spin...

[placid copper]

So what're the best two handed weapons? I know there's not many but.

[cosmic igloo]

atgeir(melee) and staffs(mage)

[placid copper]

I will say, Slayer has kinda piqued my interest. Specifically Brutal Slayer based on the wiki.

[placid copper]

I'm a melee person so.

[fallen zephyr]

Yeh, breeding. Not maturation.

[cosmic igloo]

in valheim you want fast weapons generally, just atgeir has just a BUSTED special attack so it's S-tier

[placid copper]

Mage stuff is off the table.

[cold elm]

Stagbreaker is nice for visiting skellies

[placid copper]

I love hammers. I have full intention of using them.

[cosmic igloo]

ya ive seen some nice stuff w stagbreaker, just never used myself

[fallen zephyr]

That's going to limit your 'swipe right' options on Tinder.

[placid copper]

Apparently the Demolisher depends on the person. Some people think it's genuinely good, others think it's bad.

[placid copper]

Why? I don't like using magic based stuff

I'm a melee guy. I'd rather use bows or crossbows instead of mage stuff if I want range.

[rotund parrot]

It has it's use, like entering a charred fortress, the demolisher coupled with the fact you create a narrow choke for them to get through makes it an amazing weapon

[fallen zephyr]

Consider my comment harder...

[placid copper]

and if you have good spacing all the hammers can basically stagger the hell out of everything.

[placid copper]

Dude I didn't sleep last night, just explain.

I'm not guessing what you mean lmao.

[fallen zephyr]

It was a joke, dude. You don't do "mage stuff", thus potential partners that enjoy "mage stuff" won't be interested.

[placid copper]

Ooooh ok.

Now it makes sense. I'm sorry I haven't slept so idek what you mean rn dog lol

[fallen zephyr]

May I suggest you stop spending time with us idiots and go get some sleep?

[cold elm]

Bloodninja is on Tinder?

[placid copper]

Nah.

If I sleep now I'll be up at 4 in the morning

[cosmic igloo]

@placid copper btw based drg enjoyer. 2.3k hours reporting in 🫡

[hoary sparrow]

what the command to clear rain?

[fallen zephyr]

"Rain, rain, go away. Come again another day".

[placid copper]

I'm at 3k.

[hoary sparrow]

https://tenor.com/view/really-straight-face-sarcasm-blinking-gif-14588874

[cosmic igloo]

gigachad

[vocal rivet]

Env clear

[azure yacht]

But that just sets the env permanently to clear until reset

[vocal rivet]

It gets rid of the rain, yes.

[azure yacht]

I assume a "remove env" was more expected.

Also, using reset env in order to get rid of the env clear command wouldn't make rain start again? As it was raining before using the command

[plush umbra]

depends, the world's usual weather cycle continues in the background, it's just overridden by the command.
if you reset env quick enough, it's gonna go back to rain, but it'll likely have moved on to another weather or several more by the time you reset it

similar to tod, it's entirely cosmetic and client-side

...well, almost entirely cosmetic, it does affect gameplay, just not the save

tod gets you nightspawns, allows you to sleep when you shouldn't, env enables being wet or cold and some specific spawn conditions, etc.

[azure yacht]

What if I do it in a coop then?

[plush umbra]

if you tod it to night and env it to rain, only you will get wet and any chunks you're the chunk master of will iirc start spawning nightspawns even if it's still actually daytime

but for everyone else in the world, the weather and time won't change and continue to move as normal

and resetenv and tod -1 will bring you back to the same norm as them

[azure yacht]

The emoji LOL

That sounds like either game-breaking or just immersion-breaking

[vocal rivet]

You're aleady immersion breaking by changing the weather with commands.

[vocal jackal]

Man, first infested mine and I get a 2 star seeker soldier

[long dune]

would anyone like to start a new world with me

or join an existing server

[nocturne wolf]

#1024264966712340510

[vast jolt]

any plans for ocean content like more norse mythology sea monster and ships?

[light moat]

Not that we know of

[vast jolt]

dmn so havin somethin like a kraken is slim

hopefully there'd be jotnars on deep north

[azure yacht]

Or better something more unique instead of the most expected creature in norse mythology...

[mellow lava]

Being able to build on ships would be amazing

[vast jolt]

well its a norse theme, so pretty much would appreciate if jormougandr be a an unexpected encounter or a boss fight even if not in mist lands sea

[eternal blade]

All I want on ships is a kind of tent and some kind of brazier or firepit to provide fire effect. I jsut want the option to rest when I can't see where I'm sailing

[shy marlin]

Only game where i've been impressed by jormougandr has been god of war ragnarok, don't think valheim is capable of doing jormougandr a good service so i'd rather have them go with their own idea tbh

[vocal jackal]

I agree, it's more immersive with purpose-built bosses

[merry pebble]

Also, he Is currently wrapped around midgard 😄 wouldnt make much sense him being in Valheim

[vocal jackal]

Imagine if Thor was a boss fight and you got Mjölnir as a reward 🤣

[shy marlin]

Yes same way it would've been semi cool to fight surtur in the ashlands, but it just doesn't make sense and they wouldn't be able to do it well enough i feel just cause of the games engine

[vast jolt]

seen the serpent physics wouldn't say jormougandr be that bad

[merry pebble]

We already got OP hammer 😂 we don't need another one

[vocal jackal]

Would do the source material a monstrous disservice and you'd be unable to pick it up anyway

Exactly

[merry pebble]

Well we can kill pieces of surtur 😄

[vast jolt]

and he disappeared jormougandr disappeared off Midgard when ragnarok be nice as an endgame

[gray sand]

Yes, Demolisher is great 😉

[gray sand]

Thor is the final boss.
After you kill all the Forsaken, he comes down and fights you because he's jealous of all the attention Odin has been giving you.

/s

[keen cliff]

i'm hoping we get a new weapon of each type in DN. I want an even more OP 2-handed hammer

[placid copper]

DN?

[gray sand]

Final biome.

[placid copper]

Ah

[vocal jackal]

Reasonable tbh

[gray sand]

#1024264966712340510

That doesn't mean bring it to the wrong channel.

[gray sand]

Right? I think so 😄

[merry pebble]

There are people here from all over the world 🙂 not everyone Is in the same timezone, it usually takes a few hours or even days to get replies

[gray sand]

(That and people usually play only with people they already know)

[azure yacht]

Jormun is the midgard world serpent, so guess where it would be

[azure yacht]

Now I want this to happen...

Imagine having them add mjolnir and when you attempt to grab it explicitly tells you that you are not worthy and even pick it up

The outrage would be amusing to see

Especially when from the very start you become unworthy of wielding it, you arrive at valheim and one of the first things you do is destroy the ecosystem

[vocal jackal]

Yeah lmao

[fading dew]

whats the average yield of a single silver vein

[keen cliff]

if you want specific info like that, just start visiting the wiki. https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Silver_vein

[empty plank]

https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1306356244457590865

[fading dew]

apparently i read over it when i was looking at the page earlier. thanks

[azure yacht]

Whoops, link sent already

[fading dew]

if multiple people shoot something with poison arrows, does the poison stack

[pallid yoke]

i just learned about the dyrnwyn and it it now my goal to get it

[light moat]

Best of luck 🫡 my new favorite weapon in the game lol

[pallid yoke]

what are the stats for it

[light moat]

https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Dyrnwyn#:~:text=The Dyrnwyn is the seventh,secondary attack deals 3x damage.

I dont really remember stats, I just kinda use weapons if they look fun 😅

[livid zenith]

145 slash damage, 10 fire damage, uses 16 stamina, same range and attack speed as other swords

[light moat]

Kind of odd that the Dyrnwyn doesn’t need surtling cores to upgrade. Was looking at its wiki page, apparently before Ashlands when it was an unobtainable weapon it used surtling cores to upgrade.

[foggy glacier]

before the Ashlands update, surtlings were the only inhabitants of that region. makes sense that they used surtling cores as a placeholder.

[livid zenith]

The surtlings are homeless now that the Ashlands doesn’t have its placeholder variant

Technically they have the swamps, but a home that kills you upon walking 3 feet (0.9 meters) isn’t a good home

[foggy glacier]

Clearly they live under the surface. They only pop up through the fire geysers.

[livid zenith]

Don’t know why they decided to put their fire geysers in the second wettest biome in the game

[light moat]

I agree, but I still think it would make sense to use surtling cores as part of the upgrade, would make more sense than a bloodstone yeah?

[keen cliff]

Swamps are the the lowest elevation biome, yeah? maybe that's why their geysers are present, in lore. only place they occasionally break through

that's the make believe explanation i'm pulling out of my butt and is now canon in my head

obviously we need surtling dungeons to be added in an update. you can enter by pickaxing an entrance from a surtling fire geyser you find

[fading dew]

i think they also just really wanted to make the swamp as dreary and grim as possible

[keen cliff]

i like the geysers being there to kill abominations if players know about the trick

[safe drum]

hello fellow vikings me and my buddts just beat fader and we are going to m ake our server a pvp server since we have never done one any tips on how they work like rules and guide lines we can get

[upbeat crypt]

is block armor or block force relevant for parry strength?

[nocturne wolf]

Block armor is multiplied by parry bonus when parrying, which is why parrying reduces damage more

I think the force stays the same but I’m not certain about that

[upbeat crypt]

kinda wondering what block force even is

[nocturne wolf]

It’s knockback applied when blocking. Tower shields have it much higher than other shield types.

[rotund remnant]

hi

[plush umbra]

Hi folks update on me and my friends base today we beated elder and i built a dock! :D #screenshots

[formal snow]

ahh

ashlands still has too many mobs for a solo run this isnt ideal

[nocturne wolf]

It used to have too many, now it’s perfect

[merry pebble]

And even then it was doable even for less than average player like me 😄

[vital umbra]

i remember i think it was the public test version i got molested by 60 charred as soon as i landed and they destroyed my boat

and then a morgen at the same time, and 6 voltures, and some lava blobs.

this happens over the course of 10 minutes in the same 50m radius

[light drift]

Ya ever just go back to an old base and everything is unlit and empty and freaky

[cobalt canyon]

actually bad, puts them out of reach of your melee

[nocturne wolf]

It’s very low on parrying shields so if you’re going to counter attack after blocking this isn’t a problem.

[keen cliff]

i'm nearing the end of moving everything from my first main base (meadows - ashlands), to a new one. And the old base is looking empty.. kinda sad.

[cobalt canyon]

Do yall put your refinery in a pit or on a plateau?

[keen cliff]

i guess Block Force for black metal tower shield flametal tower shield is the same. I'm tempted to make the flametal tower shield and try it out. It's been a long long time since i used a tower shield

[gray sand]

Neither.

[cobalt canyon]

Far away?

[gray sand]

Nope.

[keen cliff]

oh, interesting. flametal tower shield has only a -10% move speed hit, compared to -20% for most other tower shields

[cobalt canyon]

Let it hit your building?

[keen cliff]

my current eitr refinery is inside a black marble and iron cage building.

[gray sand]

Build out of things it doesn't damage.

[cobalt canyon]

Use too much iron already

[gray sand]

Never stop needing iron, so it is impossible to use too much.

[tulip patrol]

Not possible. Iron will always be useful and you'll never have enough Iron

[pliant hatch]

Arrogance or skill?

Being in partial swamp / mountain gear, camping on a rock outside the swamp, seeing a Greydwarf Brute nearby in the Black Forest and being like: "I don't need to worry about him." 🤣

[cobalt canyon]

(Depends what you set your combat dif at and if it's a 2 star....)

[light drift]

Seeing a non blazing fire is just oof

[pliant hatch]

Normal settings, but it was just too far away to see if it had stars or not.

But to think it wasn't that long ago I decided to give a Brute a wide birth....

[tulip patrol]

Surprisingly Grey dwarf Brutes still take 2 attack motions from the Berserkir Axes. Or maybe my axes skill is just too low since I moved away from conventional weapons.

Dundr go brrrr

They're different colors Tbf.

[light moat]

No way you’re an average player 😂

[cobalt canyon]

Naw he said less than

[merry pebble]

☝️ 😁

[tulip patrol]

First day of Ashland's PTB was storming the beaches of Normandy.

[cobalt canyon]

More NPC backup would be nice

Turn it into a proper warzone

[cosmic igloo]

daaamn ooze bombs are super good

super handy in mountain cavs when you are undergeared

[tacit crystal]

Yeah, they make some encounters a cakewalk

[cobalt canyon]

Shame to say I've never used them

[tacit crystal]

Never too late to try out.

[cosmic igloo]

i just learned about bombs in ashlands with the basalt ones making platforms

im a big fan now

[tacit crystal]

Bilebombs then are big bros of Ooze bombs.

[tulip patrol]

But a bigger pain to farm.

[cosmic igloo]

can you avoid raids by simply porting away from the base?

[tulip patrol]

No, the raid will only tick down if s player is in the radius

[hidden gorge]

you can -- it'll go away eventually

it might not "tick down" but it doesn't stay forever

[plush umbra]

it'll only go away if another raid happens elsewhere, since only one can go on at a time

[tulip patrol]

And if you portal away when a raid happens. The creatures will attack base buildings and farm animals if they can reach them.

It's better to just deal with the raid. And keep boars and chickens in an enclosed area so bats can't reach them

[hidden gorge]

as long as you're not nearby they won't be loaded in and will have no effect on your base

[tulip patrol]

That's incorrect. I ported away across the oceans during a raid and it still destroyed crafting stations and whatnot

[plush umbra]

there's a good bit of time after your screen goes all portaly in which the area is still loaded in, before it finally unloads

so it is pretty dangerous, just not a guarantee that they'll destroy stuff

[azure yacht]

But you will return to the raid area in which case the enemies will spawn...

[hidden gorge]

don't return while it's active -- that's the whole point is they want to avoid the raid

[azure yacht]

For most events to end, a player must stay in the active event area until the timer runs out. The event timer is paused if there are no players in the event area (except for the "You are being hunted..." event).

[hidden gorge]

it might not "tick down" but it doesn't stay forever

[plush umbra]

but getting it to end that way is heavily RNG-dependent

[azure yacht]

Exactly. Your plan is to stay away from the base until another raid spawns.

It's infinitely much faster to just fight them yourself instead of going through a whole process of trying avoiding it, and then when another starts you abandon the place until another raid happens elsewhere? And then you do that for eternity just trying to avoid raids?

Or simply disable them. Idk what's the point of doing any of that when the option to very easily disable them is there

[light moat]

Raid disabler here 🤚

[hidden gorge]

the point is to answer the person's question, which the answer is yes. is it something I'd recommend? no. is it possible? yes, absolutely.

[plush umbra]

fair

[light drift]

I'm so bad at organizing. I just have a line of iron chests on the floor. Idk how to stack them or anything

Or how to separate them out. My best guess right now is like "stones/rocks" and "woods" and "mob drops"

[hidden gorge]

I generally separate mob drops out by the biome, but yeah you got it

[plush umbra]

while they're physically taller than a meter and thus seemingly don't fit into convenient cabinet designs, if you start placing the top row of chests first and then go down from there, they allow you clip their tops into the chests above them, thus being able to fit into the same space as a regular wooden chest for far more slots

-# which also makes them more space-efficient than black metal chests in cabinet designs because there's no way to get around the width of a black metal chest being wider than a meter

[light drift]

On my first base I made "shelves" with some flooring hanging on the wall

[light drift]

Even without it separated like that it feels like SO MANY CHESTS

But my main swamp base is also Itty bitty right now. So it feels even worse

[hidden gorge]

to get around having too many chests, just split them out into their own rooms 😉

[gray sand]

Do you at least separate your food out to a different area?

[light drift]

Yes I have a "edible" chest

[gray sand]

Ok.. my method:

[light drift]

I'll go back and expand that base later. I wrote on a sign and my game crashed. With the last autosave about 10 minutes back

[gray sand]

There is the "Workbench" area, the "Forge" area, and the "Food" area.

So chest are already divided into categorys.

"Food" gets split into:
-Meats
-Farmables
-Foragables
-Drops

"Workbench" has:
-Leathers/Hides
-For Arrows
-Hard Stuff (Flint, Obsidian, etc in this chest)

"Forge" is just separated with 1 chest per biome to hold the biome-specific metals (Plains chest holds both BM and Linen)

[light drift]

And what about your mob drops such as eyes and resin

[gray sand]

Eyes are in the food area given they are used for food.

Resin has its own chest next to the trash can, because once it is filled all excess resin goes in said trashcan to be converted to useful coal.

[light drift]

Lmao. To me eyes are just portal mats right now.
Are all mob drops either food or a crafting mat, then?

[keen cliff]

i basically have the same as Sevrahn. Kitchen area, crafting area, "equipment/food" area for gearing up to go out, then resource storage

each area has its own relevant storage

[pliant hatch]

Question: I got the cooked serpent meat and thistle from pre-bog witch patch, but just prepared the cooked fish, yet the herbs needed for the "ocean feast" don't show up in the Witch's inventory.

Does that mean I need to get the serpent meat from a "fresh" hunt and cook it to unlock the herbs and thus the recipe?

[gray sand]

Yes.

[odd helm]

The key for killing a serpent didn't exist before the bog witch update, so you need to activate it by killing another serpent after updating.

[pliant hatch]

Crap. And I let a serpent go because I didn't have the spear with me.

Guess it's back to sailing the same distance again. 😦

[brazen charm]

gjall make this noise that sounds like someones knocking on my bedroom door through my headphoines

i legit took my headphones off and looked around for someone knocking on my door

[hollow jungle]

everyone talking about having "60 skill in sword" and "70 skill in club" e.t.c

meanwhile i use only axe and im lvl 24 in the mountains

[gray sand]

Did you speedrun to Moutains or just avoid fighting everything?

[hollow jungle]

maybe died a lot

im playing multiplayer with my cousin and my brother if that counts