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i spawned 2 as well
but i parried a 1star charred warrior without a shield, so, i guess that's fine
I love dualwielding π£οΈπ£οΈπ£οΈ
uh, i killed both. i now have 4 swamp keys. game got bugged i think
Why not both? There are many situations where berserkir axes are much worse than the sword, and also some where it's better.
ive met yesterday with 2 stars
i am still on a hunt for more tissue... but most i find are more mines... up to 25 spare black cores now still somewhat short on tissue π¦
The elder drops one swamp key for each player
i guess i'm just thinking about my default melee loadout. i'm curious what situations you think sword+shield is better however?
lol that's a lot of spare cores
I carry both, sword and shield will be better for the strongest enemy and for the harder difficulty
and i got probably the seeker poorest mist i have evere seen i barely got enough to get the carapace armor going :(.. also stompistomps are elusive π¦
The high recovery time makes berserkir axes inefficient against 2-star charred warriors, starred morgens etc that are too strong to parry or stagger with damage. You only have time for one primary attack before you need to dodge, so it's very slow. If you get jade axes this won't be a problem though, unless you get unlucky
this is good info, thanks. currently using lightning axes. but i could always make some jade ones too
seekers respawn in infested mines, if you really need more carapace. but honestly you'll get enough looking for that soft tissue, i'm sure
in my last run i got so much that i did not know wnat to do with it, this time just the opposite... oh well... gonna go explore more, eventually i will find a few more... have even been sticking to needle arrows because carapace is so much in short supply π
yeah, i'm still making carapace bolts in the ashlands since i have so much of the stuff
granted, ripper rate of fire is lower than bow, so you need less anyways
on my way now to the third patch of Mist π¦ can't always be the lucky one i guess
i had to sail to 3 separate mistlands spots in my word to get all the soft tissue i needed
all good things come in threes i guess.. maybe the third will be the place where I get enough finally π
We don't have new pickaxe btw?
blackmetal pickaxe is the current best
Sad
more sad there is no decent knife to be had ... i am not a big fan of the dual wielding knife ... oh well...
my bet is that DN will have 1 weapon for every type
I liked skoll'n'hati, but new knife would be nice to have
basically give every weapon an endgame version
deep norths weapon are made of gold like metal, ancient metal, thats what I heard. Imagining a golden shiny armor
Damn i have only 2 fortresses on my first island, and those don't have lighting stone
Id honestly trade even 2 lightning stones for 1 blood
My playthrough has been like, 12 jade 8 lightning and 4 blood or smh
So far i looted only 4 jade and 1 blood, lol
I'll take that trade anyday
what channel is best used for questions about the boardgame
I don't think there is one. Doubt we'll have any answers either.
I guess I have to start preparing for Fader. Any tips?
lol... I was buiding wisplights and workbench and pocketportal next to a skull I found and guess what muppets showed up because i was making a ruckus in the mist? You'll never guess π
Wait until the last phase to use bonemass if you want that power, do a loop that end around him when he does the attack that follows you. When he spawn mobs, ignore them and run towards them when he targets you with that attack to use it to kill them.
If you have a root harnesk, use it if you want to use melee weapons
I want to get burned alive, yes
Fire resistance barley wine overrides the weakness
All of his physical damage is pierce except a low blunt damage (40) on the meteors
ooh
damn I gotta make one
You will want to avoid all the attacks anyway, if you use it do make sure you pay attention to the 10 minute timer so you are ready to replenish it stat
Well that goes for any armor
its only 12 armor tho at lvl 3
use serpent shield + root harnesk for the true Blob OP strat
This is very important valhiem question indian or Chinese for a take away (food)
I don't actually use it against him, I prefer berserkir axes and ask armor
indian
Vietnamese
real
I upgraded green mace and axes, got max flametal armor, max root harnesk, am I good to go for fader?
Seeker soldier 2 star
three greydwarfs and a greydwarf shaman π
Damn hope you ran!
I got out of there alright before they could kill me π
chat i have an indestructable wood post what do i do
I watched a wave of greydwarves come out of the mist into a fight between dwarf mages and a starred gjall with seekers
If you bring lightfoot mead, tonic of Ratatosk and fire resistance barley wine, yes
(There's a lot of dodging to do)
Was massive slaughter
you gotta give it to them they are brave to throw themselves at all of that highlevel enemies π
The 2 star brute lived the longest and was running around in panic
i love when biomes fight each other
so entertaining. i should look for a good spot where some biomes come up against each other and setup a little outpost to watch the fun
Trolls vs abominations is my favorite
like a plains/mistlands border can also be useful from a resource perspective. get some extra black metal and seeker parts
Tho a stone golem vs lox is fun too
I seem to get a lot of swamp vs plains stuff
Best part about plains and mistlands border is definitely the mosquitoes hunting the hares extremely efficiently
I'd kill for that. God I hate hunting hares
with my youtube character I found a place where there ist mist to the right, swamp to the left, plains in the middle and mountain straight ahead... this is going to be the spot for my new Base π
views sound immaculate
make sure you get as many hits in as possible when heβs stunned by the root effect. id even suggest bringing beserkir mead just to maximise that
π΅Draugr to the left of me, seekers to the right! Here I am, stuck in the middle with you
Is still possible to lvl up Cooking stuffing things into the oven?
Even with a full oven
im so done with hunting hares, i use fucking ooze bombs instead of arrows now
i havent heard any news of it being patched yet
Ember staff does okay with bunnies
eh im not about magic. melee all the way
Then I might try it later
I tried it just now and it does give xp for trying to stuff the oven more π
i only learned of it a few days ago anyway
alr not patched yet lets go
I run after them with the knife, usually work
Best thing about magic is my skeles protect me while Iβm building
well the AOE of the ooze makes it impossible to miss unless you absolutely fumble it
I'll give that a try, sounds like a good strategy
im just not a fan of the hit your other stats take when you eat eitr foods
i just resummoned bonemass and farmed blobs lmaooo
Losing health isn't a problem because you can use the staff of protection, which is why I use an EES diet with magic
Yeah that's the way to do it
i just dont like taking that risk ngl
plus melee feels more tight to me, especially if you have two handed sword
The risk of relying on the most broken op item in the game?
I prefer melee too though
i mean thats another factor, it feels cheap
the only magic i ever use in my playthrough is staff of the wild against fader
jealous!
i'm curious, does the two-handed sword also use the sword skill?
spears are kinda the odd one out in that they don't use the same skill as their 2h counterpart, but that probably stems from them having originally been exclusively throwing weapons, thus barely comparable to atgeirs in use
yes, and the damage can be insane past around lvl 60
ive got a lvl 3 lightning slayer with 65 sword skill and it tears ass
INTERESTING
lvl 2* slayer sorry
They are the odd one out in multiple ways π
never knew (joined at some point after Mistlands were already in the game)
oh that change was made before even early access release
Just reached the swamp and we got killed by slimes and a wraith. We can do some more bronze age level upping but still, how can i deal with the common enemies? are the aoe attacks blockable?
we got our stuff back and i made a portal near the swamp but itd be preferable not to die
Wraiths only spawn at night, and you can make poison resistance mead for the blobs
were you exploring at night? wraith's only cme out at night
What's your food?
yeah day ended
Wraiths can spawn in wood houses at day but won't respawn
haha some berries and stuff, any reccommendations to focus on making? (i got the cauldron and such)
Jesus Christ..
jesus christ is right
early, poison resist mead
Food is more important than gear.
One day I won't have to say it any more π
you mean soup, its a soup
No, it's mead
it looks like a soup
ALWAYS MAKE THE BEST FOOD YOU CAN WHEN YOU EXPLORE A BIOME FOR THE FIRST TIME
it does LOOK kinda like a soup in its base form lol
No. He means mead.
You need to ferment it at a fermenter
oh thanks
Fermenting takes two days, sleep at noon to skip the most time
Look at the pins in this channel. You will find the food sheet that I wrote.
we spent so much time building a new base and exploring we didnt really do a lot of preparing for hard stuff. 2x elder was a pain (i didnt know he doesnt despawn)
Nothing despawns unless spawned by a raid or night
Again:
Food is more important than gear.
ill still go max armor and 2 stamina foods
yeah i know, in theory. in reality i keep forgetting that
aoe attacks are unblockable but can be dodged through, itβs possible to negate all poison dmg through rolling but the roll speed is slow so it wont let you dodge more than one at once
so block logic is similar to god of war 2018 and ragnarok. really missing the red rings
I'd argue it's not ENITRELY clear actually it is more than (only) armor, BUT, it's a moot point practically because you always get access to better food than armor and it's close either way, so easiest IME is prioritize new food (cauldron upgrade mats to make too), and new armor, and then whatever else you want (usually a good weapon you like to main in the new biome)
Some aoes are blockable (such as a gjall projectile's explosion) but not blobs
It's entirely clear because I say it every day.
/s
alr thanks ill go continue dying now (while knowing what im supposed to do)
Next to the food sheet I wrote you will find the blocking sheet that I also wrote.
you can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him cook the best food
No water. Only mead.
deer stew, minced meat sauce and carrot soup (cooked fish is locked behind swamp now which sucks but oh well)
You could use deer stew, queens jam and carrot soup if you'd prefer more stamina
if theyβre dying a lot id say more health is problem the way to go
Always enter a new biome with HHS imo.
Swap to HSS when you have biome-level food.
itll give them higher block strength too
Cooked fish was a bad food within black forest anyway
Lies. Slander.
its 5hp better than minced meat
cooked fish isn't worth the effort in getting fish
Libel.
small benefit but worth it imo
Less health regen. +1 health per tick of health regen is worth it for -5 health
wait can i rant real quick, i noticed this the other day and i hate it
Fair trade given it costs only 1 thing to make.
even in my first playthrough when i didn't know shit, i never bothered with fish based food or sea serpent food
I don't fish but I always make serpent stew
And I might fish in my next playthrough for the new mead
you can multicraft now right, provided you have 5 of the item. but if you go to craft 5 raw fish and youve caught both pike and perch, you need 5 of BOTH to do the multicraft, you cant do 5 of just one fish type
idk why but that really ticked me off
well that was a mistake, serpent stew is the goat
farming takes too long in this game, less carrots the better
i mean, i enjoyed my runs and have been very successful. So i would say it's not really a mistake. it's just not taking advantage of serpent stew. π€·
i think its just moreso how early you can get it
Are you playing Valheim?
if you play your cards right you can go into swamp with it
im usually stuck waiting around for 3 days for my crops to grow so i can make new foods and keep exploring
We are farmers! Bum buh bumbum bum bum bum!
unless im working on a build its not that enjoyable
That sounds like lack of planning on your part π€·ββοΈ
well i donβt usually like planting 3 carrot seeds the moment ive got them, id rather wait til i have 30
yeah, i've never had to WAIT for crops. unless it's when you first get the seeds
oh, i plant those 3 right away, and just keep adventuring and then get them going
So it's definitely a self-inflicted issue.
Plant immediately, then plant carrots for more seeds
i wasnt denying that π
its my monkey brain getting happy by seeing a bigger field full
You were declaring that farming universally takes too long.
Which is false.
The minute I find a new biomes seeds that stuff gets planted
same
i wish there was a way to speed it up
surely we could get like fertiliser or something
last run i actually spotted a cabin in the mountains early, and checked it for onion seeds. so had onions planting before swamp
Again, are you playing Valheim?
Always love that
it took me 3 mountain biomes to find onions on my last playthrough
every single chest had asstons of obsidian but never any seeds
Like when a new spawn has a mountain close to the start and manage to tame wolves before getting bronze
RNG can be the worst enemy in the game
is there a way to speed it up that i dont know of?
Sleeping
sleep at noon, speeds up farming
other than sleeping that is
Had cabin, no onions but it did have Obsidian.
So I had max level workbench before Swamp π
u need iron for the tool shelf tho?
Latest playthrough, deathless on hard, saw 3 building on my way to the top, each had seed, got 31 onions seeds just getting a portal up there
Just the act of wanting to speed things up -> Are you playing Valheim??
i like shorter playthroughs thats just me
That isn't Valheim.
Farming?! A man of your talents?
im a busy guy i dont have a whole lot of time to play
womp womp idk let me play how i want
No one is stopping you.
Set sliders for more resources
Time takes the same but you get more for the effort
true
I often run 1.5x solo, seems pretty balanced without too much grind
i have experimented with it before but idk it just didnt seem as enjoyable
although i did try with 3x and that felt like way too much
I build a lot. Extra resources is very nice
certainly sounds like youβre trying to but alr
π€
building is really expensive, im lowkey considering using no build cost next time
but then knowing me ill get lazy and cheat in iron by just placing cage walls everywhere π
Yeah... 1.5x is nice because you can't like make troll armor from a single troll or a full set of weapons from a single sunken crypt, but you don't typically have to hit 4 swamps to get the gear, either.
It also makes building material farming feel "fair" for solo play. It's easy to make big structures without feeling like you need to spend multiple sessions grinding mats.
i might do 1.5x on my next playthrough. been 1x all this time
For sure. I do recommend 1x for new players, it helps really figure out the game as you're starting. But once you know the game, second or third or 15th playthrough, I find it feels about right at 1.5x.
3x doesnt make resources gathering fun because yeah you can get a whole troll set from one troll, 1.5x is the happy medium i think. also nice for foraging for mushrooms, thistles (especially)
17th rn π«‘ only got the game last yr too lol
oh, a run that starts with farming skill is also going to look very different
well, assume the bugs are gone and you're not doing that
On our server we have 2x resources and that works well with 6 players
i guess if you want to spam cultivate to level you can. but even with just normal play it's going to give you more resources
still want that scythe to harvest mistlands crops dammit
πΆ You can't always get what you want. πΆ
not much to ask for
Hey, I ask for the smallest of things all the time and am continuously denied. π
Well i just raised ground to enter fortress and then squeezed into small hole to enter tower, that was fun
Blood or thunder axes?
Both.
this is the way i always do it.
imo, thunder axes. or maybe jade
I don't like root effect, doesn't seem efficient to me
Never go green on melee.
If you're making only 1 pair, blue is probably best all-around.
i've seen how much damage the axes can do to a rooted enemy however. it made lord reto trivial on a video i watched
But making one of each is my recommendation.
yeah, one of each is probably the way to go. the video i saw was rooting him with the mace, then switch to lightning axes to smash him down
Blue for groups. Red for single target.
Huh? Arbalest can also be elemental?
the ripper
This is the Ashlands.
Everything can be elemental.
That's sick af
i stuck a stone on my codpiece. it's now lightning baby
But that makes me even sadder for knife i will never get
ride the lightning
lol
i'm not sure, but I kind of have a sneaking suspicion that the gems might be used in Deep North too
Surely it will unlock new upgrade to upgrade our weapons further, what I suspect is another source of those gems too
based upon really nothing, I have even stronger suspicion Deep North will have versions of all the weapons
except maybe like fists getting shafted (i hope not)
i think it's a good bet. i'm going to save some, that's for sure
i'll put $5 on my bet of DN having a version of every weapon type
though maybe not fists lol
definitely at least the already coded weapon levels for Ashlands enchanted (each of which consumes more of the base gems) that currently are gated behind non-existent station upgrades, at LEAST
PLEASE don't do fists like that--I know it's sort of a 'meme' status weapon class, BUT IT'S SUCH A GOOD MEME DAMNNIT!
maybe 1.0 will give a better fist weapon progression
so you can be fisting all through the game
do wisp lights last forever?
Yep
no, but they also don't spawnproof
they do if they can't get to you
(and are already aggrod)
in my experience they attack them when they are throwing a hissy fit
aight so they are just like any other structure?
enemies do that to everything built by a player
right
alright
i remember shooting a seeker soldier from a spot he couldn't get me. so in his rage he went around smashing all my wisp torches like a big baby
yyeepp π that's gotta be a bit annoying to clean up
im going against fader soon.. idk what to expectt other than fire
All of his melee attacks are pierce, and he has meteors with a low blunt damage
Im bringing both green and blue melee weapons, and the fire sword and ton of potions
bring a berzerkir potion stack
And lightfoot mead and tonic of ratatosk
ill make the berzerkir one too. it seems essetial after I read the info
The weakness to pierce damage will be overriden by the root harnesk, just be very careful with other enemies because they'll have other damage types
Can I bring feather cape too? Or should I get the ash one
Feather cape 
Ash, you don't want to jump and if you do you don't want to stay in the air being slow for long
Fissure (his strongest attack, with spikes coming from the ground) has a much taller hitbox than it looks. And it has friendly fire
Wait, dundr is magic shotgun?
Yes, that's exactly what it is
lmao
Would shield generator be helpful against fader?
no point
ehh Is there a way to un anger the dvergr
helo chat
Nope
pay me money and i'll help
They won't be angry when they're dead
I just used that method, turns out that there was a dvergr house next to faders spawn and I wanted my portal there
It's your house now 
property value going up
sooo is it a big deal if i kill the dvergs in the tower? so i can get sap extractor mat
like, will other dvergs that arent here also attack me when they see me?
Nope, others will still be friendly
aight father forgive me for what im about to do
Imma send a screenshot of my gear regarding fader chall, please someone check it at #screenshots
damn thaat was sad af
It's perfect!
Ive also built campfires around it and destroyed spawners..
There are ways to get the extractor without killing them
There are also ways to get them killed without doing it yourself
Just gotta be a little creative
That's not as fun though
it's honestly the intended progression I think, just a lot of the community (myself included) a SMIDGE hesitant to kill one of the few thing in Valheim that doesn't wanna kill us immediately on sight
Im a fan of the eitr strategy
which is why it's of course way more humane to lure a gjall in to do the wet work for you
exactly
As long as there isnt a lantern mage...
No idea why they made those guys so strong lmao
a health diet of wheaties growing up, presumably
Barlies?
great, I hung the first bell at faders altar and got the ashlands skeleton raid
why do some of the dvergs say "you're taller than i remember"? how can they remember me?
It's good you got it now, before the fight
Hi all! I can't find the reference but is the crafting tables-item duplication chance a bug or apart of the update?
I accidenally popped bonemass tho
With the root harnesk, bonemass won't be doing much in the fight. Their pierce resistances don't stack.
oh
You don't need a power, but if you really want to be as prepared as possible I'd reccomend eikthyr
goddamn lol
Heh. Why did you stand in the middle of the arena?
bonemass + berzerkir, and tell us if it's as broke even on Fader as people seem to keep saying
for the first free hits
apparently not so free
Lol.
So it not being listed as a feature means its a bug? (sorry for the dumb Q)
wellll, i think they HAVE also done the other thing (accidentally forgot to list intended features on notes) before
Wait, they've NOT put it in the patch notes? My apologies for the confusion then.
It's not. I actually meant to mention to you yesterday but forgot in the midst of all the other convos, it's not mentioned on the wiki either. (Presumably because it's not mentioned in the patch notes.) The patch notes only refer to the additional produce harvest and additional food from the cooking skill.
"* New skill: Crafting - Reduces the time it takes to craft items and increases the durability of crafting items. Reduces the stamina cost of placing build pieces." -Nothing about duplicated items for free, just crops and food
yeah EITHER unintentional bug OR unintentional omission from patch notes, but def one of the two
I'm sure it's an intentional feature.
I imagine it would have been corrected during the PTB phase if it wasn't intended, yeah. Or addressed in the hotfix.
Thank you!
ok idk what happened, a meteor attack started doing like 50 dmg per hit at suffen
(Without giving me spoilers) Shouldnt there be any hint from Huggin about the Bog witch?
Or is it just, you'll find it when you find it?
I think its just you'll find it when you find it π€
Both Haldor and Hildir have a Hugin message about "in an area not unlike this one", so maybe when I get to the right biome
sheesh. FINALLY found the start of the mysterious locations in Ashlands. I think it was the 7th putrid hole
guys. is there a problem if i make a chicken coop with stone floor? like a building with stone floor with the chickens inside
or does they have an issue with that? some friends told me that i need to be careful with the heat source because they can cook themselves in it... but they didn't know if there was a problem with stone floor
stone floor is fine
technically you only even need heat sources if your intention is to hatch the eggs--if your intention is to just lay eggs, they just need to be fed (the heat source if anything a detriment to that because it might hatch eggs you don't want hatching)
You just don't want them to get too close to the actual fire source, and the roof needs to be high enough for smoke to escape so they don't choke on it. Hanging braziers are popular for hens because you can put it somewhere they can't step near it and thus won't walk into the flames like addled moths. Walls also don't block the warming effect of fire, so you can just put it on the other side of a wall if you want.
I just beat fader, died 3 times. 1 was when it spawned on me
it took a while, but imo that boss can only stall the fight nothing else
why the hell is my stone throne breaking instantly when i try to place it down.
It needs to be supported well. Like it can't be on a wood floor
If you want it on a wood floor you could support it with an iron beam or two
Like connecting it to the ground
its on a second story π©
dedicated stone pillar through the first floor just for your throne? π
i have to fill up more space on the first floor and make some random pillar then
Imo raven throne looks cooler anyways
if the walls are stone, an iron pillar sticking out from them should (...I'm pretty sure) offer support as well, so you can put those along the floorboard to where you want your throne... or move your throne room to the first floor π
isn't the stone throne more comfort
I don't think
All thrones provide the same level of comfort
Recommend checking the wiki's comfort page if you're looking for max comfort
bruh πΉ...i also prefer the looks of the raven throne..
well, congrats! now you don't need a fucked up house pillar, lol
Just build a tallass pillar outside and put a throne on top of it, so you can see your whole kingdom
Not gonna have a kingdom for a long time because i am way too lazy...i am going to build the most minimalistic utilitarian cramped cozy fucking space possible
i still want it to look good though, but i'm going to have basically every crafting thing in the same room, upstairs is one room with comfort items storage and portals.
i need another fire for cooking...i can probably make like a horizontal vent for smoke right..?
you can use a roof piece to shuffle the smoke out, yeah. but it won't drift sideways on its own
could make it connect to the fireplace maybe
do birch trees planted in the plains still look completely emerald green
i literally have a block against chopping them down cuz the golden ones looks soo purrty
@vital umbra technically you don't need to vent smoke. As long as the 'tunnel' thw smoke filters into is 3 walls high or i belive 9 of the 1/2 inch floor widespread out (like a floor gap between levels) it won't go out. I have two fire places stacked in my chimney but I don't vent either. They stay lit all the time. Youtube has several videos on how to deal with smoke in valheim
i found some of the infamous ground lines
I do recommend venting. In moderation ofc
@old flint because Tasty Mead is unquestionably better.
Also I wouldn't carry all my food with me.
I made tons, in a chest.
@patent wren @digital nexus I built my hen farm up one half floor and put a fire pit on ground level. As long as you leave an opening at character height you can had wood to it and no hens get lit on fire.
Throw the stamina pots in the Obliterator and make Tasty.
No need, already beat fader
πΎ
Time for another playthrough
That would have been a waste in more ways than one
prob cuz of the stamina meads π«’
Yes. The first waste was making them to begin with.
Second waste is Obliterating them.
"A waste in more ways than one."
ππ
They were handy a couple times when I was stuck under Fader and he used the spike attack
cloudberries and yellow mushrooms, oh the horror.
i will continue to use stamina mead, craft bronze weapons, parry not roll, and not use the root harnesk, purely to prove a point π€¬
and no mixing magic with melee either
Why roll if you can jump?
Retos the current final boss of Valheim ngl
Heβs just a blue charred warrior
F5
spawn Reto 5
π
Spawn charred_melee_dyrnwyn 5 3, they need the stars
@dreamy kiln any reason you're so difficult?

Heβs just better 
Me, deal with it β€οΈ
hi
Perfect, now answer my question π
the horde is attacking π©
call the alliance then \o/
in 1100 hours this is the first time
Closes Valheim and plays Stardew Valley
π±
its alright i have some stamina potions
Thank you for your time, enjoy your cave
hehe
Closes farming game to play farming game?
They're both capable of cozy, just wildly different kinds
Cozy = accurately parrying/predicting charred warrior attacks
i have beaten the horde, my stamina potion won me that.
remind me, horde is the an ashlands raid?
Fulings
Horde is the FedEx of blackmetal.
it felt so good to see my stamina come back that fast when i used a stamina mead that i purposefully crafted and wanted to use anyways β¨
i sure did like tasty mead for awhile but damn am i glad i used this instead it is so much more satisfying anyways..
what do folks think about (not the way it is now, to my knowledge, rather changing it to be this way) the yggdrasil root approaching the world closer and closer with each forsaken killed (or maybe each forsaken trophy mounted on the sacrificial stones)?
Would valheim be moving closer or the tree somehow moving closer
too many variables. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense
Itβs probably not the best idea to bring the forsaken any closer to yggdrasil
I like the idea of the trees branches growing as the player does stuff tho. Not sure what the end result would be tho
Oh, the time is...no idea cos I can't see the sun/moon
aren't the forsaken the ones causing it? so wouldn't it have the reverse effect?
oh good point @vital umbra
so reverse that then--what if it got SMALLER and SMALLER (i.e. appeared to get further and further away, I imagine in game it would just scale down the asset to implmenet) with each forsaken eliminated?
Odin cut the 10th world loose not the forsaken... so killing them reversing something that the forsaken did makes no sense... at least that is what I understand
from what i understand lore is the forsaken are causing it to creep back towards reconnecting with the branch
done* ?
(that Odin originally severed it from)
boring
just a random thought that occurred inspired by some of the lore talk earlier plus my love of little things like that in games that show a real impact on the world from player actions cumulatively through a playthrough
y'all remember the Majora's mask moon? lol
so I had a flametal vein that was half mined I was working on before the recent patch.
I loaded in to go mine the rest and it was gone π¦ '/sad viking noises'
um, where do you make meads now?
the Forsaken could also just be biding their time, as the roots on Valheim are still very much alive and do grow new shoots π€
Actually, how come they're only in Mistlands (from a lore standpoint)? π
you still ferment in fermenters but now (post bog watch) gotta make the new "mead ketill"
you make the bases in the mead ketil (a new crafting station similar to the cauldron), and finish them in fermenters
oh i see
you should get access to mats for it in the same age tho--bronze
is Mistlands the Eitr Age, the Magic Age, or something else entirely?
i'd just separate progression by the biomes, since that's what the game itself does
silver, blackmetal, and flametal ages, respectivealy
well it took me only 30 nights, but i finally found the 2 star askvin
lol that's the most clear, logical, obvious way--but we have these fun played made up "ages" commonly used to refer to them too, so I was just wondering "what would the mistlands one be called" because all the others seem FAIRLY self-evident and some i've even seen others using before
I HAVE ARRIVED! Hi everybody, ain't been playing for a while, how's the new content
And anyway, I call mistlands the brain age personally XD
funnily enough it snuck up on me, i wasnt even aware it was a 2 star due to the fog until it was right up on me, luckily i reacted in time with bonemass and it didnt kill me
Magical age
Forage Age
Carrot Age
Turnip Age
Onion Age
Barley Age
Mushroom Age
Vineberry Age
this is all accurate
A sound and accurate definition of the progression tiers XD
Forage Age <--- hunter-gatherer/subsistence age
Guys in the ashlands, what weapon is better, ||slayer or nidhogg||
||Neither|| because you should ||pick whichever|| you personally ||feel like playing with.||
Stone age
what about the "where even am i stage" when you first drop in
Fair enough, big sword just looks SO sick
Then you should ||use|| that one.
what are most people using today for a valheim server? Gportal appears to not have valheim now?
I always liked that each tier was unofficially named "ages" when devs probably never referred to them as such.
People just started calling them that way and it stuck
i feel like magic age has a pretty good ring to it, and is the most significant 'discovery' so to speak π
at least its not showing up on their website rn
Already started nidhogg, but man
Makes it seem like we are actually advancing technologically
Honestly I have my own dedicated server on a docker virtual machine
What happens once you've raided every fortress on your server but still need gems?
Create another world and raid again
fair enough, hopefully they implement something like defeat fader and he drops a couple or so.
Deep north could have renewable gemstones, but I think itβs good to keep them limited at the point where theyβre most useful, it makes them feel more valuable.
its more of an issue though when you have a large party and only want to stay on your own world
I doubt they are going to add a renewable source given you can just world-hop.
Multiplayer issues are "meh" given they themselves have stated this is a single-player game that just happens to have co-op.
I would guess deep north would get other gems
This might mean too many items but what if we get new gems in deep north and then make new gemstone weapons using a combination of one deep north and one ashland gem?
This would be my assumption too.
Some systems would have to be changed because one new item for each of these would be inefficient
More of the same 3 we already have I assume they mean
Damn on Mistlands your inventory really fills up till the last slot
did they ever fix the abyssmal drop rate of the gems for multiplayer? I was on a server with 8 people and we found 22 gems from the entire ashlands...
Gems donβt scale with multiplayer. You can increase the resource rate if you need more gems.
Ok, so I guess the question then is what amount of players does the default resource rate drop gems for if you complete the entire Ashlands? Previously, it was like enough for 1-3 people
The entire game is primarily balanced for singleplayer
No way, I played solo on a single map, made most weapons, some 2 type of them, upgraded all of them, made all the staffs, and I have like 40 gems to spare
Surely that would be enough gem for 10 people
That it does sound like bloating
I'm heavily expecting we will get gems for the three other remaining elements (frost, fire and spirit). And spirit is a "maybe"
Iβm not too sure about it either, I just donβt want an identical to system to ashlands
No combinations, ashlands gems are ashlands gems and DN gems are DN gems
It sounds like maybe the drop rates have improved then? That's more than all of us got combined before...
They haven't
You know there's most often multiple islands down there?
And around 20 fortresses in a single world
Maybe the gems could go on armor instead?
That would be a nice-to-have but i don't expect it
Most of the gem I got at the beginning, just finished raiding all the fortresses later
oh yeah we had ~20 forts and each one had 0-2 gems in it
Except the "instead" part
0-2 gems each fortress is low, i think. i've raided 5 fortresses, and only one fortress had 0. and i would say more average may have been closer to 3
but i guess RNG is gonna RNG
From many playthrough probably about 40 fortresses in total on 1x my own experience is getting about 2.5 gems per fortress
does Staff of the Wild upgrades affect the roots that spawn? Or are the roots the same dmg regardless of staff lvl?
from wiki, it appears that the roots are the same damage no matter level . it just affects the initial damage the staff projectile does
but it's a big increase. i think it starts at 20, and level 2 is 40 for example
today I learned the frost staff is amazing for serpent hunting
Yes, theyβre saved to the character so they can be used anywhere
Their trophy has to be placed on the sacrificial stones in the world youβre currently playing in
Do we really gain more EXP for skills when well rested?
Rested gives +50% skill gain
Rested and food: the most important things.
high tier armor dont matter if u dont eat
Berserkir Meads are strong, but is it intentional to only make three from one base?
Yeah it's intentional. The devs probably just don't want them to be cheap
Only reason I ask is all other meads are 6
is it normal for 1 particular event to be the most common?
i feel like 50% of my raids are "shes hot on your tail"
doesnt sound like a lot but with there being like 10 different events
its a lot
Many events get disabled as you progress.
there it is
i know some of you like to downplay taming mobs, but MAN, hatching 40 1star askvins in any spot in the Ashlands makes it super chill. highly recommended
You don't use the cauldron for fish anymore ?
so I can't cook fish until the iron age
If you choose to break the game into ages, yes.
cooked fish in black forest is over π
Multicraft gives proportional xp right?
from what i've heard, yes. however, it only gives you 1 chance of proccing an extra item
Morgen have weakspot?
Lol i had thought about same situation yesterday
#screenshots message
Time for Bonemass vs. Iron Spear.
Thunder berserkir axes + bonemass, cleared whole fortress in like 20 sec
Such a tragic when you left you gate open before you quit the game for the night,then you logged back in but didn't pay attention to the game because you are watching FK yt and big fat blue guy(s) unwelcomely walked into your home and introduced you to his big stick. (Video is at #memes-and-clips )
I am not enjoying the mistland
So Bonemass takes the entire durability of 2 Iron Spears to beat π
i mean... he's very resistant to pierce. so that makes sense lol. you should get an achievment for that one
Achievement Earned: Screw this guy, he's getting stabbed
Spear level went from 50 -> 60 from one boss, so that's an achievement in my book.
I don't know if this has happened to you guys but I
β’ Make a smithing outpost
β’ Unlock new stuff
β’ Expand the new outpost
β’ Realize that you need more space
β’ Expand it even more
β’ it's no longer an outpost... But a Fortress
Have never made an outpost, so no.
Also what the heck does a mead ketill do?
Makes mead bases that you put in the Fermenter.
Oh
I don't remember the ketill being a thing
They added it with Bog Witch.
Same with the Prep Table.
Cauldron was overloaded with way too much shit, so they split some of it out.
spears only run is bold af man
Its pointy asf actually
you mean killed last boss? 10s of thousands people I think
Can i have your charater save
I haven't killed even 6th boss (and there are 7 currently)
you would not be able to repair the gear
unless you get the world too, and then all is done why do you want a save like that instead of playing through the game
Its very hard for me:((
hello, a question. How do you play with people online in valheim nowdays?
someone wants to play valheim? new world and needs to be from poland 12+
how the fuck do i survive the swamp. I got food. i got mead. i got lvl4 troll armor. but they keep ignoring the attacks and all my parries/blocks stagger me instead. I got a fucking bronze shield.
in day, rested, enemies everywhere
why is it so difficult. the spike is crazy
what food do you have?
I am leveling other weapons as well. Just testing the attspd of spears on bosses. You can get 9 hits in between swipes on Bonemass.
Troll armor isn't the best in terms of armor, you can have bronze. The difference isn't that big though
all the stuff in lvl cauldron and mead thing
Well, either evade attacks or use more hp food to not be staggered
Bronze ftw
How easily you're staggered depends on max hp.
If you can parry trolls, you should be able to parry most swamp enemies though
So carrot soup, queens jam and deer stew?
died when i was using my last carrot soup
parry trolls. what.
Almost all non-starred swamp creatures have under 60 attack on average (all having over 60 actually do most if not all damage as poison, which doesn't stagger and is easily reduced by the potion)
What's exactly the problem? I mean one cannot parry trolls with meadows gear/food and only bronze shield, but later... it's pretty doable.
i cant block or parry shit with processed food
high hp means i cant attack since no stamina, also
Well, you need to advance through swamp slowly. Pick enemies one by one
Usually HHS or SSH diet works pretty good
they dont attack one by one, they gangbang my ass
2 types of abominations
who exactly? I think it should be possible to handle 2-3 skeletons at once, even in swamp
groups of draugr and the actual abomination
The most important thing to remember... Valheim is no hack and slash game... it is a survival... so food and armor is of utmost importance..and go slow with the enemies π
fucking draugr, skeletons die easy
well, 2 abominations is scary even for late swamp gear
movement speed yeah
Jump over the draugr attack and hit a secondary on the way down if you canβt parry them
do not run around too much
i walk
How did you get 2 abominations on you...
You need to move around the swamp 3 times slower on average.
swimming in the swamp water ruins me
yeah they have a max spawn rate in any given swamp chunk
2 in a small area is next to impossible unless it was on the edge of each zone
You can use a hoeβs level ground tool to make the water less deep if thereβs no way around
Do you have healing and/or stamina meads?
Do not swim, stay on the ground. I swim there like 1-2% of the time β when going around takes too much time
Which enemies are staggering you? What level is your buckler?
level 1 buckler since i have no more bronze. does it make that much of a difference?
day 70 -90 were all getting copper and tin. Still not enough
A level 3 buckler will have 75% more block armor
This increase is less significant on later shields though
u gotta take advantage of the parry bonus, lvl 3 buckler can parry a 2 star draugr
I am trying out things here... switched to a full mage build π gathering the tissue I need going forward (and the carapace for that matter) having fun as heck... it remains to be found how well i will do as a mage build in the ashlands though π
Gotta level that swim skill though π
I do hope you're mining out the entire copper vein, leaving that big pit?
And not just mining the part of the vein that's above the surface?
One copper vein should give 90-ish copper.
Two veins is usually enough to craft and upgrade the nails, cultivator, bronze axe, bronze sword, bronze mace and bronze buckler.
UNDER THE SURFACE?
me and my sister just mine until theres no more "copper deposit" on the cursor anywhere
2 stacks on a good day
what about tin, does it have a secret underground base too
15 veins mined so far in total
maybe 5-8 stacks of copper in like 70 days (not constant mining=
Yes.
If you mine around that copper vein you will see how large it is.
Make sure it's not connected to anything around it, then start mining it until it pops. You should get 90-ish copper and about 250 stone from that.
Tin only has the small deposit you see along the shore. Each giving you 3-4 tin.
fuuucckkk
okay so thats a good thing, but still annoying i didnt know before
i know of like 15 copper deposit locations, tin will be difficult i guess
The thing with copper is, because of the way it's set up, you will get the idea that you're done when only seeing stone. But the copper is a big node with layers of copper and stone, so as soon the copper is gone players may get the impression it's "empty" and leave.
While there's still a lot to be found under the surface.
Mining around it to expose the entire thing - you'll end up 6-8 metres deep - is the way to go.
No worries about that. You're not the first one not knowing - I didn't know it until it was told me either - and you won't be the last one not knowing it.
Does the Mead barrel need a roof to work?
It needs a roof and some walls, like a workbench
I believe it needs to be "sheltered." There are multiple ways to accomplish that.
Because you can do it without roof pieces.
Excuse me what????????
Copper veins are massive and go about 6-8m into the ground beyond what you usually see.
I'm going to throw an absolute fit.
Enjoy.
why my friends get discconected when i leave the game?
If it's not dedicated, the world closes if the host leaves
how do i get dedicated server?
Open the steam library and at the top of the games list find the button to enable 'tools'. Then, find valheim dedicated server in your library, install it, and follow instruction in the manual pdf file found in the installation folder.
That is an interesting pfp
thanks
Gonna go and kill a Queen wish me luck
Good luck! πͺ
https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1024264966712340510 in here they can.
I can't post there
In that case, head to id:customize and set your roles in there.
After that you can post in https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1024264966712340510 without a problem.
Shouldn't need a role for that.
Long live the Queen π
Was she bugging you?
not at all... I did not need a single mead... now I need to prepare to go to the south.. .build Drakkar and am gathering stuffs to take with me π
Obliterated with Ember staff, correct?
nope... mistwakerr, arbaleste and demolisher... π decided to play it save with that monster π a little emberstaffing was involved and protection staffing π
put in a break in the middle of the spires to repair the boat (soooo many vultures) and sleep overnight to get to the shores for landfall not right at nightfall π
Before getting in the hot water I like to scout from a distance to spot where the islands are. That make sure I land on a big island and make it so that I need to travel the least distance through the spires.
easier said than done... can not make out any land from outside the spires ... have to be doing it blind...
Might have something to do with render distance because I can always see the land masses from outside the hot water
how do i get roots on quickly
Mistlands Roots?
iugh going back to the midwayportal there is an ashstorm going on... nope sir... we gonna build a swamp Portalhouse at home.. not going there in an ashstorm π
protection staff is the single reason I swapped to mage, that thing is so good
most likely gonna be fighting queen with my assortment of staves + himminafl for when I'm waiting on eitr regen, we'll see
I usually use 1-1-1 food and go with the staffs i can not do supermuch with it then but can have bubble π and hit tthem buggers with melee weapons π
I read "burgers" first, I must be a bit hungry 
I find that as mage I tend to not need nearly as much stamina as normal since all my attacks are from eitr, allows me to go for 2 eitr foods and either 1 health food or a feast for balanced stam/health
if i go mage i go 2eitr and one health... di do not feel comfy with such a small health bar π
I hope the mistlands feast gives eitr... I don't wanna have to continue producing mass amounts of seeker aspic and stuffed mushies
oh neither did I at first, til I realized the blood staff was basically an extra 200 HP at rank 0 blood magic
so long as I keep an eye on my barrier I can basically ignore shields and health altogether
2 Eitr and Mistlands Feast should be quite good for Eitr users.
just realized I've already made 110 ratatosk mead... I have a problem
I may or may not enjoy stupid amounts of run speed
You and I, we have severe Ratatosk tonic dependence.
fenris + ratatosk just feels too good
I can casually sprint across my entire island base in around 30 seconds
Add Asksvin Cape to that.
can't yet, still in mistlands
once I do though, I'm gonna run so fast I die to any cliff I run off
Ratatosk tonic living rent free in my inventory.
I wish there were a way to get blue jute without fighting or cheesing dvergr towers
just let me buy red & blue jute from hildir boom, instant moneysink
i get it by leading all the mobs to them and let them do the dverger killing π the gjall do a thourough job of destroying stuff so you can pick up anything with out repercussions form the dverger π
i like the red jute better anyways and that is easily obtained from the frost caves π
I also like the red jute more, but sometimes the blue jute just fits better in a way the red jute cant
I love putting blue jute carpet underneath my round tables, and putting those curtains on pretty much any area without windows that needs some detailing
yo me and my guy is looking for people for a new vanilla server
https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1024264966712340510 There you should find some.
does it make a ding sound when your farming skill triggers?
Yes, you get the bonus yield when you hear the sound.
Is there a setting to remove death penalty now?
They are if cleared properly π mobs in there do not respawn
Can bone remains trigger respawn ?
yes
oh
you need to remove any evil bone piles in there before it's completely empty
There is a slider that can change the penalty easier (but not remove it) - the easiest option you lose only 1% of skill levels and you keep items that are equipped while others remain in tombstone.
thanks!
When was that slider option added? late 2023?
During Hildir's Quest patch in Summer 2023.
default penalty was 5% skill loss before?
On Normal setting, yes.
cool, thanks for the info
Death penalty is 1% on casual and easy setting, casual is the easiest setting with keeping the equipped items.
bruh... the scythe doesn't work on Jotun Puffs
nope, unfortunately not at the moment
Wouldn't make any sense to, IMO. Though I know I'm probably in a minority.
I mean... it makes more sense than carrots, turnips and onions π
yeah... realism wasn't really a concern with the scythe lol
Didn't know you were a dev.
just an observation, pretty sure irl farmers don't harvest tubers with a cutting tool
Almost certainly not.
really glad my island has quite a few cloudberries on it, been using them a lot for the plains feast and salads
Cloudberries are weirdly plentiful.
yeah, makes life much easier
get a little over a stack by doing the rounds on my island, I do play on 2x resources though
Is it me or is the weapons from Ashlands seem lackluster and less flashy than before
have you slapped some gemstones in them yet?
Oh we get gemstones? Haven't came across those yet
yeah, you can add them to the flametal weapons to upgrade them
there's three kinds, and they all make the weapons pretty bright looking lol
You gotta pay a visit inside the Fortresses. You notice them by a green glow in the sky.
man, my only issue with magic weapons is how dependent they are on the corresponding armor sets, it makes sense but the penalty to your eitr regen is so hard without them
With the staff of protection, you don't need protective armor
yeah, fully aware lol, I use fenris whenever I'm out of combat
just wish I could use it in-combat as well without having to forego magic and stick to himminafl entirely
You could use the new Tonic of Ratatosk to keep high speed with mage armor
I do, and it helps a lot, but I'm such a fenris addict that it's just not enough speed
also, I run the feather cape a lot so the free fire resist is a huge help
Can I ask what is the reason of locking Rawfish on preparation table, when you can find fish on coast sometimes and can get the rod and bait from haldor as early as blackforest? thats basically making Fish be a swamp tier food which seems dumb imo, feels better to be placed back on the Cauldron
most likely just for consistency, but considering cooked fish is on par with wolf meat iirc, it could also be for balancing purposes
would prob be best to nerf the values if on par with wolf meat, but just seems weird to lock it that far when its accessible really early, by time get to swamp you have better food choices anyways
was really good as a base at blackforest, but now its just skip
yeah, agreed, tbh I never bother with fish in the first place and wouldn't have if it weren't for the bug spray requiring me to go plains fishing
they did add quite a few reasons to go fishing in this update, so those are nice, mainly the seafarer feast
hopefully the devs will consider this and are looking lmao, right now thats just poor design on how to handle Rawfish π
I mod the game so its w.e, I can change everything myself XD but as vanilla perspective, its bad
tbh, i never used fish before plains, so i personally dont see it a really big of a deal, but yeah, as a swamp food its not really good π (then again, never was)
yeah, it's a little odd since it is basically only relevant in meadows/forest, but at the same time there's plenty of cooked meat in this game that's irrelevant at the stage you obtain it (cooked lox meat, cooked seeker meat, etc.)
and that's usually just to encourage people to engage with actually preparing their food instead of just slapping it on the cooking station & calling it a day
i swear to god, anytime i activate bonemass before seeing a morgen in a putrid hole, it turns out its empty and i wasted it
morgens are pretty easy to parry, no need for bonemass, unless its starred
You have quite a bit of time before they crawl completly out if they are in there, pop the bonemass then π (also what dale said and you can just circle around them even)
i guess it also depends how experienced you are at fighting them
i think ive fought every enemy so many times now i can fight any ashlands mob without bonemass, except starred versions or huge hoards
i was just being extra careful, because i knew i wouldn't need bonemass for a long time
used to be pretty scared of valks, but now they are easy after fighting about 50 of them
just funny really
fair
ironically i need more vineberries, my plants arent growing them fast enough
the ones i have to go forage for i have plenty of
yeah, after i covered all the buildings in my base and still needed more vineberries, i went out and setup some vineberry farms on dedicated walls sticking out of the ground. ugly, but now i'm set
Those are quite easy to scavenge for π
yea i havent explored much of my ashlands, only 2 fortresses
spent a long time 2 star askvin hunting
ive only found 2 vineberry citadells
so i dont quite have enough
if i relied on scavenging for vineberries, i probably wouldn't have enough
well i have some at my farm, but i didnt have enough room to make a big vineyard
i thought they would grow faster
will prob need to make seperate place for them
yeah, i found placing two wooden wall pieces on top of each other is the right size. so i just did a lot of those in the ground, spaced out a bit
got perhaps THE worst bonemass spawn, in the damn plains π
sorry surrounded by plains
i woudlnt doubt your first claim, been some weird screenshots recently
someone found a surtling gyser in the middle of the plains a few days ago
Was just typing that xD
Can you show? I am curious π
people finding some crazy stuff recently
let me try
ok so we passed the plains but i can mark it on the map
its less surrounded than i thought lol but still, where can i send ss?
its smt like that, although its not fully surrounded, im expecting enemies from the plains to come
happens to moder a lot too with mistlands lol
there are other spawn locations, if you were really worried you could search for another
cant be arsed tbh
Thats not that bad π i thought only a few meters of swamp with the altar spawned in plains
yeah im glad it wasnt but it sure looked like it from a bit further away π
I wish we had some sort of small inventory expansion or something, feel like I use over half my inventory just for gear and food/mead
usually if that happens and i want to keep playing, i'll just use the map generator to see how to go around or where another one is
just dont use armor and dont eat
oooh smart idea
yea i have maybe 8-10 slots total in my inventory that arent necessities
doesnt leave much for gathering
assuming I drop arbalest, which I'm mainly just carrying around as a ranged alternative to magic for when I'm out of eitr, I get 2 more slots for a total of...
important question, how do you pronnounce "dvergr" π€
12 free slots
Show screenshot of what you have?
i started noticing this in mistlands, barely have slots
#screenshots @merry pebble
my staves, backup weapon of choice, crucial tools, food & drink, armor & equipment, and this is the bare minimum I bring around with me
wisplight, swamp key, etc. take up even more slots
I play melee and dont usually carry meads, so i have 3 more slots (one of the 4 gets used by arrows) and this ammount of slots is totally usable and more than good enough imo
it's not bad, but my god as soon as you start getting a variety of mats it becomes hell
I dont really feel it even when carrying pocket portal π€·ββοΈ (that way i can dump everything home and go again)
i only really use meads for bosses so most of the time, i dont have meads in my inventory
I bare minimum keep health & stamina meads on me, and ever since bog witch ratatosk and lightfoot to a lesser extent have become staples of my loadout
i think the d is silent
I dont think so
no, its not vergr
Pretty much as it's spelled, really.
I just call them dwarves and move on
well that's kinda relative
I'm confused how that could be.
Would that be something like D-Vergr? Or Dwervgr?
The former, as that's how it is spelled.
How is W and V pronounced differently?
With D-Vergr I meant something like saying "d" then "vergr"
Don't carry the food.
It lasts half an hour. Eat before you leave and be home in 30 minutes and you get 3 slots back.
If you must stay out longer, just carry one of each after eating. So when you eat halfway through the day you still get your 3 slots back.
Oh, its said all together
Do y'all think being able to attack up/down on slopes isn't as popular a request as I think it is or Irongate just really doesn't want to do it?
Iron gate have said they don't want to do it, because it creates many situations where players can safely hit enemies from an unreachable position.
Repositioning to a correct height is just part of this game's combat
There's nothing wrong with the way it works now though
unless i feel like there is
woo. getting a cooking proc when making mead bases is nice
I really feel like the shoe is on the other foot whenever I'm fighting anything melee on a slope (they can hit me and I can't hit them) and also bows exist.
basically i don't buy it
||isnt this possible with bow anyways||
I get where it could be exploited (there's already ways to cheese enemies in certain areas, like the ledge entries to frost caves-- being able to aim melee up and down more would make this even more viable in more circumstances), but i'm also not personally convinced it would make such a difference to the average player's combat experience it isnt worth the QoL fix
yeah that's what I'm thinking.
Wouldn't be the first time an idea stuck that doesn't necessarily make sense in the whole setting.
bows, magic, bombs, etc etc..
But melee? Oh, that's a bridge too far.
Bows & bombs both use consumables and are substantially slower to kill enemies, to be fair? It's substantially less of a no-brainer move to cheese with those
Like, you can, but it's enough of a slog that it's very rarely worth it, at least in my experience.
jumping while you do a melee point is kinda funny. u kinda can fight something above you but they could also hit you ig?
i'm just so damn sick of hitting terrain right under the other guy's toes or giving them just a haircut man
giving a good ole pedicure
Basically every game with bows and terrain lets most enemies be cheesed by proper positioning and ranged weapons
i mean is it kinda annoying to not hit somethign thats sloped slightly higher than you? sure, but there are other instances where the playere is super advantaged.
For example: the Valkyrs in the ashlands never touch the ground, so they are always higher than you, but you can still mele them. also the before mentioned areas in some caves that are elevated
Yeah, again, I'm not convinced the QoL loss is worth making cheese strats less appealing. That said, the devs may have internally tested it and found that cheesy exploits became comically easy to do even on accident, more than we could expect, so... they'd probably know best
"Other instances" is unconvincingly vague to me, sorry.
could it be possible for a mod to allow angling? sounds like best of both worlds
Apparently, the devs have gotten modders to show them what would happen with angled attacks and have concluded it wouldnβt work well
Doesn't need to be directly up and down capable, but their minds are set so whatever
Ah, yup, then sounds like they have pretty concrete reasons. Also sounds like there's probably a public mod out there for it, so at least thats an option for folks
also as the player you have the opportunity to dodge role wich gives i frames, so i still see the player as advantaged
Also the player has the power to turn around and run away
I wonder if they also looked at angling the character's hitboxes/attack animations with the terrain underfoot... I mean, probably, and I can imagine approximately ten million ways that would be an even worse setup, but I'm always curious about the behind the scenes work
odin wouldn't approve 
really abou 15 degress would've been fine
Nothin wrong with fleeing and living to die gloriously in battle another day!
i also have the ability to turn on dev commands π
the only time i see the player at a disadvantage is if you get staggered and are fighting a large group of enemies, then its just gg, unfortunate, try not to get staggered next time
dies unceremoniously to an archer while running
live with honour, die with glory
very few times have i died in this game, and not concluded it was my fault
well honestly in the ashlands, i dont know how others did it but i know i sometimes got fucked and was unable to flee...say a couple times still with only mistlands equipment the terrain was so flat so i would try and hide in a tower or on top of a rock and there was always something that could destroy it like an askvin, morgen or valkyrie...
I'm just not convinced with "player is already advantaged." Not having to shift over to a flatter spot is about all that would happen.
false. we've all done the "is there fall damage" theory

still your fault, you tested it
ISTG i died in the ashlands the first time i went there more than i ever died in total across all of my other playthroughs in every other biome..
i blame gravity π€
yep, only death I have ever experienced in this game where I thought it was 100% not my fault was when I got disconnected from a server I was in with a friend while on a boat, reconnected a few mins later a bit too far from shore and drowned before I could get back, that was not a fun grave run
same, i died so much in the ashlands my run went from 98 to 30
im confused, are you guys gaming meisters or do you have under 300 hours
the game didn't keep me on the boat, it kept the boat sailing but did not update my location so I fell into the water with no boat
my deaths might be close to the triple digits now
i think i have 232hrs
damn apparently I have 1162.5 hours
regularly, but every death is my fault in the end
I die a ton lol, but 99% of the time it's my fault, or some unfortunate circumstance I let myself get into
if i care enough i won't die much but other times i don't care
My favorite ways I've recently died are: "forgot to reup my poison resistance getting swamp groceries", "forgot to eat while building and jumped down 6m" (x3), "my mouse is broken because my cat has knocked it off my desk so many times, so the right click failed and i didnt actually block"
sometimes you make a few wrong decisions that leave you at a dead end where you're gonna die no matter what you do
i can pretty much name the instances where i die, trolls, swamp crypt draugrs, wraiths, starred wolf-packs, gjalls, the queen....and then EVERY SINGLE THING in the ashlands.
I have about 700 hours, ~3% of deaths I would blame on something outside my control
i reduce the xp drain though cuz it sure likes to siphon the big numbers later on
the plains are not that bad to me i find though..
exactly
until the fabled death run in plains
suddenly the tally grows
this, I hate the skill drain so much, ruins the ability to experiment with loadouts easily
i am baffled there is an entire potion for repelling deathsquitos....like....why???
I usually die to three things: misinput, distraction, and not knowing an enemy
almost every death, if you think back a few second prior to your death, you will realize, you could have done something else that would have resulted in survival
i don't think my ashlands deaths count as any of those
its a combination of everything going wrong imaginable
not knowing an enemy was really big in the ashlands
coulda left the game and made a new world lol
gotta outthink death
'cause they're FUCKING ANNOYING, they're not even a serious threat, you just whack them once and they crumple, but istg there is nothing more irritating than minding my own buisness picking some berries and one of those fuckers comes and hits me for like 30 damage through my armor
i just have the death penalty down
Deathsquitoes are annoying to kill if you donβt know the timing to whack/arenβt paying attention and are nearly impossible to deaggro without violence
Tbh it would have been very helpful to have before my friend and I took on plains for the first time... getting squito'd doing a corpse run is deeply annoying
jesus
that sounds like fun
squitoes are not a threat and that potion requires you spend awhile in the plains, since you need 3 groupers per 6 mead
or you are busy fighting something else that requires your attention, then you hear "bzzzzzzzzzzzzzz"
it's nothing more than a QoL to force an annoying enemy to fuck off
I have never in any of my playthroughs had as much issues with deathsquitos as...i guess....everyone else has...apparently?...
they're okay. they just get me during a few death runs
yep, deathsquitoes aren't a threat on their own, but as soon as you're running from a fuling camp and you hear a bzzzzz while you're busy blocking 20 fulings in front of you you're screwed
I mainly run into issues with them on deathruns where I canβt one hit them and they can one hit me
i only had issues with them on my very first playthrough, since i went in blind and had no idea, that they just do 90 dmg for no reason
dodge!
meh
But then they come back
dodge more
yep, squitoes are super easy to dodge when you know how their AI works, don't even need to roll just walk when they start going in for an attack and sprint right before they suck you
if you have fenris armor you can outrun a deathsquito
You can also jump over deathsquito attacks, which is very funny to me
if you have fenris armor you can outrun everything, fenris is the goat
like i don't think i am going to use this mead even....i will craft it to be a completionist and to put it on tables.
Or swing any weapon. They're pretty easy to kill
yeah but we were just talking abt corpse runs
well the context we had was for corpse runs
Ah
I find just running often makes it miss.
I rather smack it out of the air though.
take like a bronze sword
Punchy punchy
deathsquitos have like zero point fuck all health
you know what i've too much built up aggression. we're gonna brawl deathsquito
yea, but you will never really leave their aggro range, but with fenris you can run fast enough they lose you
Youre not obligated to use every mead, to be fair. It's just one tool of many!
I like to box greydwarfs
Pretty much. Parry riposte or catch 'em like a fastball.
it's the best thing ever
Bullying greydwarfs by beating the crap out of 'em barehanded is like a Valheim rite of passage.
Boxing enemies is fun. One time I got a good game of "catch" going with my friend where we kicked one back and forth between us for a while
The parry only increases block power (canβt stagger squitos), so with a good enough shield you can just hold block
True, but I like the parry sound.
true
yeah, once I get fenris and I'm just running around foraging in the black forest I'll just beat anything that isn't a brute or troll to death with my bare hands
we need a ranged deathsquito
i like to run rippers with the fenris to do my scavenging
You mean archers?
i wish there was flametal knuckles
they're called dvergr rogues
Y'know what, sure. A deathsquito that shoots its needles. That'll be our "two star" deathsquito.
i hate when im using lighting weapons and the chain hits my dvergr friends in the ashlands
i only fought them a couple times, at some point i just felt too bad whenever i did so i went out of my way so hard to never aggro them and always protect them..
mistlands 2: oops all deathsquitoes
Only part of mosquitos I dont like is how far they can see you when your on water. Like how the hell do they seem to see so far out like that while I'm sailing but on land they seem to be oblivious till your relatively close?
deahtsquito that shoots out its needles
the alternate is a bit immersion breaking, but it's a deathsquito with an ak-47. i don't think odin would approve
Only if we can pick up the needles if it misses us
Deathsquitoes all over mistlands wouldn't be pleasant
Or the ones it hits you with get added to inventory.
Flying, rapid fire, fast projectile, high damage, fast moving, small, ranged enemy
i remember the concept art of seekers, i thought they were going to be a 10th the size they were and just some more powerful deathsquito.
so I started this whole thing by bitching about how annoying it is to fight enemies on very slight inclines.
and Mistlands is 90% rock you need to sprint and jump repeatedly to climb.
this would make me pop a vessel
Opens up extremely demented new farm possibilities. Keep a gatling squito in a box, drop loxen in front of it to absorb damage and produce needles, farm loxen at the same time...
Deathsquitoes all over mistlands that shoot would be Vietnam
Valheim. Vietnam.
Vietheim.