valheim-chat

[fading charm]

made a whole new world just to make a bar with the new potions lmao

[light drift]

Not knowing what you deconstructed and suddenly having iron is concerning

[ornate venture]

Is it normal to get double boss locations for Eikthry?

[merry pebble]

Every boss has at least 3 locations on the map 🙂

[gray sand]

I was going to say 6 😂

[merry pebble]

Nope, no boss has 6 😄 max 5

[gray sand]

Fair.

[ornate venture]

Never knew this. First time I've seen a second one since never got far into each game. 😄

Two Eikthyr right at the starting spawn

[merry pebble]

Oh you can go through the whole game and never find multiple of the same altar 😄 no worries

[merry pebble]

You can chose which one you want to do then XD

[gray sand]

You can go through the whole game without ever finding Yagluth. So... 😛

[merry pebble]

Heh xD

[ornate venture]

If you run off, will the boss despawn or follow you for a ways?

Maybe I could do double deer battle

[merry pebble]

It will never despawn but also not follow you if you are far enough

[merry pebble]

Yes you can but you dont even need the 2 altars for it, you can summon 2 from same altar

[ornate venture]

Never even considered trying that before

Thank you all ❤️

[vital umbra]

Hello SPEEDY, hi Asatru, Puncher of Drakes 🔥

[tacit crystal]

Lexus, Luxus, Löxen.

[vital umbra]

lixian

[rain flare]

Imagine you had to kill each boss once at each altar in the world before you got a trophy 👀

Would make for an epic series of battles and SO MUCH SAILING! 🤣

[rain flare]

Now you be speaking my language 😂

[merry pebble]

Oooh, i would not mind that at all 😄 so much exploration... Love it 😁

[tacit crystal]

Kinda lazy to name them properly so they are kinda like that, my 2 star Asksvin I use as mount is named Äskerö 🤭

[weak briar]

Thank you very much developers for making that wish come true. We already had a great time together with start of a completely new world. Now we're looking forward to get to the swamp to find the new stuff all over there

[half plume]

can i join multiplayer im kinda newbie

[gray sand]

#1024264966712340510

[restive linden]

Praise the gods for the controller hot fix

[tacit crystal]

Hotfix came even sooner than we presumed 👀

[merry pebble]

If you are new to the game then i would suggest to make at least one playthrough solo 🙂

[half plume]

i see

[gray sand]

Facts. Everyone should experience the Mistlands without any context at least once.

[warm sandal]

I second that - try it solo first - you will have more time to take it all in and find out how it works - playing with others that know more will put you under pressure more.

[echo crest]

What does the LODs mean in the patch notes? The new hotfix notes use that term.

[merry pebble]

Its just because that way you find and learn everything yourself and will not be cunfused if some other player suddenly brings new stuff about which you have no idea where it came from 🙂

[cyan trail]

Is there now suddenly a hidden mechanic where when you craft an item, you have a small chance to get another? o.O

[merry pebble]

Yes 😁

Not really hidden tho

[cyan trail]

Neat!

[gray sand]

Different models of the same object that load in based on distance from said object.

[echo crest]

I wondered this when i got two iron helmets...

[cyan trail]

I seemed to not see it in the patch notes.

[restive linden]

I thought it was just for food until I saw someone post about getting an extra bronze axe

[plush umbra]

Any item??

[cyan trail]

Game did a ding and suddenly I had two bows and I was freakin' out.

[tiny tiger]

Damn what??

[warm sandal]

backups are cool... i'll take it 😄

[merry pebble]

Look at crafting skill description, i think it Is there

[tiny tiger]

Like even the fire sword potentially?

[merry pebble]

I believe so, yes

[tiny tiger]

I thought you could only get one fire sword per world

[tacit crystal]

Any item. For example I got extra Carapace shield two days ago (while still on PTB)

[tacit crystal]

With blessed RNG yes it is possible.

[plush umbra]

Seems insane gonna be helpful as heck tho

[merry pebble]

I really think it should be removed for equipment an stuff like that

[tiny tiger]

It seems mildly broken

It makes sense for items that come in multiples but not so much for weapons and armor lol

[merry pebble]

Indeed

[sage quiver]

Not really broken as there's not many uses for extra weapons or armor pieces. Cool to have for decor tho.

[cyan trail]

I am sometimes blind, but thank you!

[merry pebble]

😄

[tiny tiger]

I mean broken in the sense that you can craft additional flame swords from Ashland’s which are mean to the one per world

Kinda useful for the cultist armor for multiplayer servers tho

Could potentially save a lot of time if a lot of players want the armor

[tacit crystal]

Multiple Dyrnwyns per world is also possible if you increase resource drop rate from World Modifiers.

[tiny tiger]

For items that aren’t stackable I feel like it would make more sense that you become able to craft finer pieces with more damage or durability etc

[sage quiver]

It's not like it dupes everything. It's random and occasional.

[sage quiver]

This is a solid idea.

[merry pebble]

🐟?

[tiny tiger]

Feel free to post it in #suggestions lol

[tacit crystal]

Yeah it happens randomly but it is possible to put the extra item into Obliterator if it feels like cheating 👍

[sage quiver]

But that's a small percentage chance of a moderate percentage amount of coal. Cheater! 🤣

[tiny tiger]

I feel like there’s definitely ways that haven’t been thought of yet to abuse the mechanic

[tacit crystal]

1 coal per 10 items, so single item just gets obliterated 😏

[sage quiver]

It's the 10% of a coal thought that counts.

[steel mica]

trolls are so unexpected

when the time comes and i need them they dont spawn

but when im foraging in the black forest they spawn

[tacit crystal]

If you have found the Bog Witch, you should try "Love Potion"

[steel mica]

interesting

[jovial sandal]

Aw thank the devs for dealing with the control stick moving on its own with the slightest tap that was REALLY agitating but I blamed my controller cause uhh.. yknow.. technology is reliable

Thank you for getting on that quickly!

[ocean oar]

damn, can't seem to find the Bog witch from our dedicated server, checked 3 big swamps, but still can't find the witch. does it have to be unexplored Swamp for the bog witch to spawn / lock the location?

[tawdry wyvern]

Yes

[nocturne wolf]

New content only generates in unexplored areas

[ocean oar]

damn, this is going to be a bit of an operation then. 😄

[ocean oar]

thank you anyway. 🙂

[tacit crystal]

New content appears always in unexplored areas since areas you have explored stay locked as they are already generated in world. For the future knowledge. 🙂

[arctic swift]

Does the unity Update also come with any visual improvments?

[unique arrow]

can bog witch spawn on older worlds already explored swamps?

[lunar shard]

Does the new update have anything to do with me having the Moder location marked (before update) and then when I go there after the update, the arena ain't there? Or is it just a general bug cause I had this happen with Elder similarly but without an update in between a few months ago

[lunar shard]

Only on ungenerated/unexplored swamps, both new and old worlds

[tulip patrol]

The update did change some spawn locations. So if you had. Boss alters found but had never explored that would change to a different location.

[nocturne wolf]

The game still looks the same, but performs a little better

It’s hard to visually improve a game that already looks so good

[lunar shard]

without completely redoing the whole visual grounds they got

[nocturne pasture]

which visuals are worthy to improve should be the question. before asking to improve em.

[arctic swift]

Dont get me wrong i didnt request any improvments, just wondered if there might be visual changes with the new unity version

[gray sand]

Renders Valheim in 8k.
Looks exactly the same given the art style.

[vocal rivet]

That's not how new engine versions work.

[nocturne wolf]

The patch notes for the unity version valheim now uses is mostly bug fixes.

[vocal rivet]

You don't agree with facts? That's a hard one to come back from.

[merry pebble]

What you agree with or not doesent really change anything fortunately 🙂

[honest beacon]

The game performance has increased alot. My base used to be a lag fest. It's playable now lol. Furnace is still laggy but that's fine cause then I can overfill it lol.

[merry pebble]

Well few trolls here and there are not unheard of 🙂

[honest beacon]

It's 2024. I guess it's OK to be wrong these days.

[merry pebble]

Wouldnt you want to know... 😊

[nocturne wolf]

https://unity.com/releases/editor/whats-new/2022.3.50

Where’s the correct information if not on unity’s own website?

[honest beacon]

Performance improvements is a blanket term. Maybe they increased performance with certain elements in the game that you simply haven't seen yet. It doesn't mean the game as a whole runs better. It means under certain conditions it's better. Which by my testing yesterday, it has gotten alot better in bases. Went from a lag fest to actually pretty smooth on pc. Xbox however is still iffy but my fiance is on old Gen so I'm just happy it can play the game lol.

[high lynx]

I used to play Valheim on Xbox Game Pass long ago, now i have Valheim in Steam but i want my old same file from the Xbox Game Pass from Cloud save, how do i get it without having to buy a month on game pass?

[pliant hatch]

From what I saw you posting previously, you seem not to trust us either.

Which brings up the question: "What are you doing here anyway?"

I'm afraid you're in the wrong game.

[merry pebble]

Wrong game then 🙂

[pliant hatch]

I don't agree.

[nocturne wolf]

He disappears before you can hurt him

[vocal rivet]

The game has never been that expensive.

[pliant hatch]

You know, perhaps you should create your own game, base it upon Viking Mythology and go rampaging in Ashgard to kill Odin, Thor, Freya, Loki and the whole lot.
Who knows? It may become a hit.

[honest beacon]

Quick question. Will bog witch spawn if an area hasn't been explored or will it only spawn in new worlds? I already started a world but it's vastly unexplored yet. Curious if I just need to hop to a new world to get the things or if it's just spawned in a unexplored part of the map.

[vocal rivet]

Is he actually breaking a rule?

[merry pebble]

It is so cute that you think you agreeing or not changes anything 🙂

[azure yacht]

The very first one basically

[delicate marlin]

Bog Witch should spawn in an unexplored swamp.

[vocal rivet]

I wouldn't bother.

[near furnace]

🤔

https://tenor.com/view/tim-and-friends-tim-micallef-jesse-rubinoff-awkward-awkward-meme-gif-27532913

not sure people understand #rules-and-info and channel topic about staying on topic in Valheim related chat room

🤔

[glacial sedge]

I would like to formally apologise for my behaviour

[tulip patrol]

sry my b, thought i was general for sec

[pliant hatch]

Looks like Smiffe is using the one tool that we never get in Valheim, but may sometimes needing: "The Broom"

[vocal rivet]

We have Kastur now.

[merry pebble]

Well, we have a broom 😄 but cant use it

[near furnace]

*Kvastur

[vocal rivet]

Oops, my mistake.

[near furnace]

Kvast = broom in swedish

[pliant hatch]

True. But I hope that doesn't mean the bog witch is modeled after a mod using the broom of doom.

[tulip patrol]

whats the drop rate on Kvastur trophy. it seems like every one i kill i t drops the trophy. am i just lucky or is it 100% droprate

[near furnace]

should be 100%

[tulip patrol]

aight

[pliant hatch]

Also, why isn't the broom a weapon?

Should be great for giving +25% sweeping skill when being used to kill bats of the stirred cauldron event with it.

[glacial sedge]

I think the broom should be used to clean

housekeeping update

[tulip patrol]

I just cast a fireball at my feet when the bats get close.

*In frost cave and starts to get swarmed by bats, FIREBALL *

[pliant hatch]

Problem with that is that the majority of players can't cast fireball when visiting frostcaves for the first time. But they may have visited the Bog witch, meaning they may get the broom.

[tulip patrol]

oh right didnt even think about that. i've been playing this character for so long i forgot the hardships of not having fireball

[languid vessel]

Last night i tried to break a feast item with the hammer and my U.I. crashed.

[torn sorrel]

real

[glacial sedge]

that’s rough

[languid vessel]

I didnt even know that a U.I. could crash without the main game systems crashing

[glacial sedge]

why

[languid vessel]

I didnt code it idk, i just missed a horizontal item holder and destroyed a lox pie instead

[near furnace]

probably a mod soft-locking you
you can send me your player.log file
In this hidden folder in windows:
C:\Users\ <username> \AppData\LocalLow\IronGate\Valheim

[languid vessel]

i dont play modded

me and my crew play vanilla

[near furnace]

send it anyways

I want to see what it hang up on 🤔

[pure lantern]

we can't replace a building piece with another type without having to destroy first, right?

like I have a full stone house I made before mists, can I replace them with marble without having to destroy the whole house first?

[near furnace]

maybe if your quick enough 😄

or can use the 30 second-no-break timer

[pure lantern]

maybe I stick to stone then 😄

[odd helm]

stone looks better anyway

[tulip patrol]

If it helps, build support next to what youre breaking so you have a little more time to break and swap.

[fair kindle]

if only we had more stone pieces to build with 😛

[tulip patrol]

I do wish the rock spires in the Mistland were black marble sources rather than stone. Just getting black marbel from skeletal remains or destroying Dvergr structures is rough

[plush umbra]

x and z axis rotation could fill the niche of a thousand pieces at once

[pure lantern]

marble with shingle kinda looks cool but my house is pretty big. so I'll stick to better looking stone

[foggy glacier]

Initially yes, but once you carry around a pair of iron ingots, destroying the towers is a breeze.

[languid vessel]

ill see if i can find it (you havent been hacked again right?)

[near furnace]

no hacking 😄

I took some precations since last time

I run my client as a light client now. so I can just delete the client and load up a new untampered one

[languid vessel]

nice

[near furnace]

but mostly. being more careful helps 😄

[high lynx]

Hello, is Valheim not included in game pass anymore?

[high lynx]

I have my old cloud saved file on Xbox Game Pass but now i owned this game on steam but doesn't have the old same file yet

Is there anyway to access these cloud file?

[near furnace]

sadly no

[wanton cobalt]

Currently in iron age no map hard mode. If I find the bog witch before the trader that'll be crazy. Already found Hildir lmao

[near glade]

for as polished as Valheim is i'm amazed it's still in early access. a lesser developer would have released the original biomes up to the plains and made mistlands and ashlands DLC. iron gate makes me feel spoiled

[hallow compass]

You must be new here :). Game is amazing but it definitely needs/has had a lot of work done

Good devs are far and few between this day of age. Thats why i prefer indi games

The hearts more into it

[upbeat crypt]

I have a question for people who mark bee hives on the map and cross them out because they colleted them:
Why are you like that?

[near glade]

that seems like so many extra steps

[hallow compass]

that is... a way of doing it i guess

hahaha

[upbeat crypt]

and I'm not making this up... #screenshots

[hallow compass]

im willing to bet, he might not know how to get rid of marks

[trail pelican]

that's not hives

pretty sure that's the burial chambers

[upbeat crypt]

no it says beehives

[trail pelican]

oh i see it now--for some weird reason it wasn't linking me to the comment

[upbeat crypt]

yeah but why write it down to begin with. Just collect the guys.

[trail pelican]

that you were talking about, just dumping me midway through the thread lol

[hallow compass]

he might think they respawn

hard to say tho hahaha

[foggy glacier]

Um. That area is behind the partial fog of war. Someone else marked it and copied it to the map table. Maybe for him to gather after?

[trail pelican]

oh that makes some sense--a way to communicate to other players on servers they cleared it

[vital umbra]

Ahh ngl, Its old news now but its still dwelled on me a bit how i found the queen as a boss to be just a bit underwhelming 🥶, yeah sure she has high health and damage and an annoying arena so its overall difficult but compared to yagluth throwing fucking meteors at you and everything around that fight it felt not as epic, And this is just a big bug...am i the only one 🧐

fader in comparison was fucking amazing, favourite boss 1000%..

[foggy glacier]

Yeah, having a safe space to retreat to definitely removes the challenge.

[tulip patrol]

IronGate makes me spoiled because of the character system. Having characters that can travel to other people worlds is such a game changing idea. I find myself not enjoying other survival games with friends because I cant start my own world than go take that character into my buddies world.

[foggy glacier]

Honestly, just having magic does, too.

[vital umbra]

Ohh i don't reaaaally refer to those, Its just her aesthetic...if you put her and yagluth side by side i would think that yagluth was further in progression..

i don't find a giant bug to be close to as intimidating or epic as an undead sorcerer king 🥴

[foggy glacier]

That’s a fair statement.

[tulip patrol]

Imagine if we fought a full body Yagluth, With legs and the mobility of Fulings

[foggy glacier]

Oh F No!

[near glade]

yeah, he should totally have a "phase 2" added someday

[vital umbra]

Its not like that would ever change, whats done is done, the queen is cool i guess, i just wanted to get it off my chest...

[near glade]

then we could see just how big that bone daddy is

[tulip patrol]

susge

Bone daddy is Fader

[near glade]

oh i haven't got to him yet, nvm!

[trail pelican]

bone daddy not bonemass?

[near glade]

nah, he's slimedaddy 😛

[trail pelican]

the great and mighty 💩

[nocturne wolf]

What about yagluth? He’s also made of bones

[tulip patrol]

Bone King

[near glade]

so yags is bone king, fader is bone daddy

[vital umbra]

i don't see a tierlistmaker thinggg....Fader > Yagluth > Moder > Eikthyr > Elder > Bonemass > The queen

[nocturne wolf]

Fader > Yagluth > Moder > Elder > Bonemass > Eikthyr > Queen (she’s a good boss but the only one who’s killed me)

[keen cliff]

wooo, thank god, controller fix

[tulip patrol]

Forsaken powers:

1. Bonemass
2. Yagluth
3. Queen (for the sorcerors)
4. Fader
5. Eikthyr
6. Moder
7. Elder

[vital umbra]

....yeahhh queen is fiiine...its just in progression....i dunno man 😔...i guess it made sense to fit in with the seekers i just....blah...

[nocturne wolf]

Queen is the top-tier forsaken power for killing things with a pickaxe

[old flint]

So does feather cape basically make barley wine useless?

[trail pelican]

the opposite actually

[vital umbra]

sounds like quite the opposite

[nocturne wolf]

No, barley wine overrides fire weakness
(So you’re resistant while wearing the cape)

[old flint]

like they cancel each other, I could benefit from other cape more

[keen cliff]

no. override completely

[nocturne wolf]

They don’t cancel each other, you keep the resistance

[tulip patrol]

Feather cape is weak to fire not immune to fire. Youre weak to fire while wearing the cape

[keen cliff]

resistances always override weaknesses. and highest always wins

[near glade]

i actually bring feather cape/barley wine combo to ashlands when i'm running for my life to find flametal

[trail pelican]

i thought it was that meads override equipment, but I could be wrong

[keen cliff]

it's whatever the highest bonus is

[old flint]

this is what ivebeen doing but I died to 1 warlock fire blast wearing it,..

[tacit crystal]

I like the Queen, she is cool 👌🏻 and her theme is cool too!

[vital umbra]

I guess yagluth set the bar really high for me

[trail pelican]

I mean, in practice, that always means a stronger resistance overriding a weaker one and/or an outright weakness--they're not offset though, is the point, the mead just temporarily overrides with its effect (very resistant x0.25 whatever damage type)

surprised Eikthyr so far down the tier list

[vital umbra]

For whom'st've

aesthetically i find him quite poggers, the fight itselfs fine, not much of a boss fight but it is what it is.

[tulip patrol]

well when you fight him you probably have flint tools or a club. not many options for weapons at the point

[trail pelican]

I meant the powers tierlist

[vital umbra]

ahhh...i think thats a fair placement

I dont think it implies the power is bad, i think thats a good place for moders too and i still like to use it, its just like a bunch of others are better

Like the swamp! I don't dislike it...i just like literally everywhere else better 😃

[near glade]

last time i fought Yags i was able to kite him in a circle and slash at his spine-tail thing without him being able to catch me. i love his design and his attacks but he could use some smartening up

[vital umbra]

Ahh overall i'm not considering difficulty, thats a bit of a mixed bag depending on what you do...sometimes i fight eikthyr with my fists, the queen is easy with magic, annoying with melee, fader is a fairly difficult fight in all the good ways....i think personally?...i have never actually seen another ones take on fader so far 🤐

[hearty niche]

I like the cartoony art that gets done for the releases. This one on the 0.219.13 patch is really cool.

[tulip patrol]

Yes, the anime style launch trailers for updates is amazing

[keen cliff]

lol now i am playing the game of: "Where did I leave my boat?"

[hearty niche]

I started putting a map marker down but lacking a map marker, you can sometimes infer it from your travel path.

[near glade]

i usually mark mine on the map as "boate"

[tacit crystal]

Fader is great! Very doable on melee, much easier with Eitr equipment although I prefer melee combat. I like how he has at least one really fatal attack that can kill very fast if player is careless.

[keen cliff]

i normally do too, but i could have sworn i broke it down and put it in a chest. i'll check some other chests, and then look for a map marker

specifically i'm looking for my longship. and it's been a LONG time since i used it

ahahaha

[hearty niche]

I frequently find, much to my chagrin, that if I don't put a workbench nearby and do some spawn prevention I will come back to a heap of splinters and torn fabric where a boat used to be.

[keen cliff]

so i have a Boat empty portal for linking to a boat portal when i'm sailing. And i found i have a chest near it. And... what do you know? my longship is in that chest. I'm so smart

i totally forgot i came up with that idea... thanks past-me

[trail pelican]

y'all gave me a suggestion idea--an anchor item that you activate and it just automatically marks on the map where the boat is while active, then removes this marker when deactivated (toggle with E)

saves time manually marking it, basically--and, a little more "life" to the mechanic of sailing

[keen cliff]

Bog witch spawn locations are in the same approximate radius on the map as Haldor/Hildr? ie, not too far, not too close to center?

[trail pelican]

think so

[old flint]

yes

[keen cliff]

thanks

[old flint]

I marked the radius by eye, and went to the first bigger swamp there.. and boom

took me 15 mins after realizing the range

[keen cliff]

yeah, i need to find a new swamp for this i think. going to try the northern part of that radius, since i'll be having to go north eventually anwyays

[hearty niche]

Kinda like the bed marker?

[trail pelican]

exactly like that!

[keen cliff]

i think it's a good idea. and the bed gives it some precedent

granted, much like getting killed by a falling tree, is losing your boat a core valheim experience that everyone needs to experience once? 🙂

Core Valheim experiences list: 1) falling off a high spot while building and dying 2) killed by falling tree 3) killed by deathsquito when you wandered into Plains by accident for the first time 4) losing your boat

[old flint]

fiddleheads cant be farmed right?

[keen cliff]

correct

only farmables from ashlands are vineberries

[old flint]

I really like using the mashed meat as my hp food.. gotta go harvest those houses again for more..

[trail pelican]

#4 will teach them "always remember to drop your anchor before rushing off to adventure"

[keen cliff]

trying to think of other core experiences. hmm. "Realizing you don't have enough iron."

[trail pelican]

sees troll THE HELL IS THAT?!?!?

[foggy glacier]

There’s never enough iron!

[odd helm]

"waiting on the side of a mountain cliff for stamina to recover"

[keen cliff]

as a player who stopped playing before mistlands release the first time, i was pretty shocked when an abomination popped out of the swamp water. i was like 'dafuq is that!'

[foggy glacier]

Piquant pie has better stats and is fully farmable

[keen cliff]

totally forgot about piquant pie. and i'm drowning in vineberries and asksvins from my breeding tower. i need to make some stacks of that

granted, in ashlands i'm not eating HP food, but still

[foggy glacier]

Yeppers! I usually eat twice daily. Two pies and greens in the morning and mashed meat, scorching medley and a shroom shake for supper

If you time it exactly right, it perfectly corresponds with the day/night cycle

[old flint]

Thought it was over.. but here I am, wandering in mist again hunting for soft tissue

[foggy glacier]

lol yeah.

[keen cliff]

I spent time on the wiki adding up all the refined eitr I would need to make everything. Didn’t leave mistlands until I had all of it. Haha

Not very efficient, but it was comfortable

[old flint]

Im making embla set

[vital umbra]

I did a melee build too....it was actually the first time i had died to a boss in that entire run, and i didn't feel bad about it cuz it was so epic anyways

[warm sandal]

that is what i do with fenrishair on the mountain... not leaving the mountain not killing moder until i got enough for EVERYTHING I want 😄

[drowsy vortex]

did they fix the controller bug yet?

[warm sandal]

took me like 20 Frostcaves to gather all the supplies

[keen cliff]

in retrospect, going BACK to the mistlands with ashlands tear gear makes the process easier when you need more refined eitr later 🙂

[keen cliff]

yes

[drowsy vortex]

thanks guyx

[tacit crystal]

Did you get Cultist Trophy from 20th? 👀

[warm sandal]

I got the trophy from the ninteenth (second to last) and still was lacking 12 fenris hair 😦

so i had to do one more to get it all

[tacit crystal]

That's... Awful RNG indeed. 🥲

Meanwhile I got 2 from my first cave in latest playthrough

[old flint]

skeleton i had marked on my map has no head!!!!!!!!

[warm sandal]

well... that charakter of mine named Brigid has been the most unlucky character I ever played... i have been standing next to spawners in the swamp for DAYS killing everything that came out until i got that draugr elite trophy

[trail pelican]

you mean just ribs? @old flint

[warm sandal]

never had it that bad with any other character

[old flint]

yes

[warm sandal]

and i got a whole wooden box of extra crystal (after i build all my windows) from hunting for the stone golem trophyy

[trail pelican]

i think some just generate like that (ribs only)

[rotund parrot]

At least you probably reached level 75 knife with all that

[old flint]

yes .. unfortunately. and theres a starred gjall on my ass

[trail pelican]

oh dear

[tacit crystal]

If you are talking about the Petrified bone remains, they sometimes can spawn without the skull. Near skull there will be 5 Ticks around.

[trail pelican]

starred gjalls my cue to NOPE THE FUCK OUTTA THERE!

[keen cliff]

barley stacking in 50 now is super nice

[warm sandal]

got a lot of levels pretty high yes 😛 but usually i do n ot spent 200+ ingame days to get to kill yagluth and i am not even close to that point right now

[tacit crystal]

Oops, avoid Mistlands at night 👀 there can also spawn 2 star Seekers during night.

[rotund parrot]

Getting the fenrir set in itself about quadruple the amount of time you need to spend in the mountain

[keen cliff]

is there still a bug where crafting 1x can give more xp than 5x?

i saw it the other day on the bug page

[old flint]

I wouldnt care with my ashlands gear but it was supposed to be fast in n out trip to harvest soft tissue.. and im on my old armor that has like 60 of it

[warm sandal]

yepp but i do need it ... i have died to yagluth every single time i tried to fight him in padded and not once fighting him in fenriss 😄 so... no other option but get all that stuff

[trail pelican]

i feel like WITHOUT the frost caves/fenris, mountains are one of the shorter biomes tho

[old flint]

and i died how wonderful

[rotund parrot]

Yag is a hard fight, you need a lot of patience

You can't just dodge the attacks and keep hitting him, you need to run from the fire otherwise it will end badly

[warm sandal]

not at all ...with fenris i am so quck on my feet i can get behind him a lot and what his ass while he tries to turn around 😄 can not do that with heavy armor - stamina issue

[rotund parrot]

That gave me the desire to make that armor for the first time ever

[warm sandal]

i am never going back to try and fight yag with padded armor... i will spent all time needed to get my fenris set complete and maxed out

[old flint]

https://tenor.com/view/knight-gym-cardio-gif-11108682667639251794

I rather be slower than turning askvin if it means I get extra protection with heaviest armor

[tacit crystal]

I've seen some using Silver Knife for quick attacks behid against Yag and keeping rotating so he doesn't get to attack. Fenris indeed is fast.

[warm sandal]

to each their own 😄 i prefer the light armor and am still miffed after all that years that there is none in plains 😄

[night marsh]

Fenris + speed potion = speed hack

[glacial sedge]

padded armour looks cooler which is my criteria for using a set…

[rotund parrot]

linen sound like the perfect material for light armor, I guess it's used later though

[warm sandal]

well if i want to look stylish i can wear that to go shopping but not for fighting 😄 he he he

[tacit crystal]

Ratatosk Tonic indeed is great, you move much faster even with Heavy armor 👌🏻

[glacial sedge]

ratatosk tonic is plains level? what’s its recipe?

[rotund parrot]

You can make it as soon as you find the witch

[tacit crystal]

It's even earlier than that.

[glacial sedge]

oh I see

[warm sandal]

i am going to jump back to my boat now... go one where i left off in the morning ... i got the symbol on the map... now let's see what is in that hut 😄 i am excited

[tacit crystal]

She sells the ingredient right away.

[glacial sedge]

so you just gotta be rich to get it

[tacit crystal]

Well, something use for all the gold we gather.

[glacial sedge]

something better than clothing

[warm sandal]

getting rich is not hard if you empty out 20 Frost caves and a heckton of sunken crypts to get the stuff you need f or armor and weapons 😄

[rotund parrot]

IIRC it's about 100 coins for 5 of the ingredients which will give you 5 hours worth of run speed

[tacit crystal]

Ratatosk Tonic indeed has earned its permanent spot in my inventory 👌🏻

[old flint]

after drakkar this karve handles like a peanut shell

[trail pelican]

if we get boat customization, they should just let us add ceramic plate to karves & longships

[old flint]

add shields and spears to decorate atleast

[trail pelican]

i'm still grateful to have an unwieldly large boat with more storage to show off and also to be able to fit 2 catapults on its deck comfortably, but...

it's like the LEAST optimal choice for ashlands SPECIFICALLY, OTHER than the one critical detail that it's the ONLY choice that doesn't burn up

[azure yacht]

Then why would you ever use drakkar?

[old flint]

imma use this setup to catch my first fish

[azure yacht]

That sounds just like "they should make furnaces smelt all metals"

[trail pelican]

naw you'd still have the trade off of (a) less health (b) less storage

[azure yacht]

If it makes something you got previously completely and absolutely worthless then it's not as worth

[warm sandal]

now talk about unlucky.... found the bogwitch... and while i ran around to the entrance an abom stood up right inside the bubble 😦

[azure yacht]

Ignorable vs speed and maneuverability

[rotund parrot]

Let the broom take care of it

[trail pelican]

what do you mean?

[nocturne wolf]

That’s not entirely unlucky, roots are very useful materials if you haven’t progressed too far

[azure yacht]

More storage and hp is irrelevant if the ship is faster, and it's not impossible to unofficially extend a longship's storage with carts or encumbering yourself

[rotund parrot]

I took a cart on a longship once, ran directly into a serpent during a storm, the cart started glitching and damaging the ship very fast and a couple second later the longship sank and I got eaten.

[tulip patrol]

The Drakkar is only really utilized to sail inot the Ashlands. And once you have a portal setup, you no longer need to sail into the Ashlands. the Longship has more maneuvability, that if youre just sailing and do not plan to sail thru ashlandic waters. It is always better to take the Longship.
The less storage can be easily bypassed by bringing a portal to offload your loot when you get a full ship. Can now even do that if its an Iron haul, bring a stone portak materials and you can port metals back to base as well.

[warm sandal]

he he he i bought one of each she had to offer... now we go home and see what we found 😄

[old flint]

I have now sailed to 2 locations for skeleton i had marked on my map. neither of em had heads

[rotund parrot]

Past you is really messing up

[old flint]

yea f that guy

[rotund parrot]

The drakkar on each of my playthrough just crash landed on the first ashland never to be used again

[trail pelican]

ah, I think maybe it can situationally make it less relevant, but it's not exactly the same as the smelter thing that just objectively would perform every function of the others--like you'd still in fact have a real difference in karve/longship/drakker 'base boat' choice trading off health for maneuverability effectively (IIRC the bigger boats at least as between karve & longship have higher top speed) also, maybe you sacrifice some speed adding the plates?

ALSO also, maybe then we could build "naked" (faster) drakker (but that then burn up in ashlands, sans adding plates)?

[old flint]

Is there a cape for embla set

[rotund parrot]

I guess one advantage of the drakkar is that it's much easier to hit serpents without your boat being in the way since you can walk on the side

[trail pelican]

yeah I don't hate it as an addition at all, it's just funny it's MOST useful outside the specific intended and quasi-necessary place it has in progression

[tulip patrol]

Nope, it used the Feather cape in its set like its Mistlands eitr-weave older brother.

[trail pelican]

because the damn spires make navigating it a nightmare, like you're backing up a fucking 18 wheeler to the Ashlands

[glacial sedge]

what are the armours that provide the hammer stamina reduction? asks? or the hildir request clothes

[keen cliff]

my search for the bog witch is off to a great start as a i ground my longship in shallow waters immediately. on the plus side, berserker axes sure deconstruct a longship fast

[tulip patrol]

TIp: Never go full sail INTO the ashlands. you'll get more maneuverability at rowing speed imo

[trail pelican]

literally COULDN'T even--HAD to

[tulip patrol]

Hildirs clothing will give menial stamina reduction.

[vital umbra]

I wish branches didn't spawn on pathened or cobbled land 😒

[glacial sedge]

wdym, it’s totally organic

[old flint]

omg the feasts make such a great decoration for tables

[languid vessel]

the new crafting stations dont have sound effects when crafting

[nocturne wolf]

The troll cape is the only cape that is part of a set bonus. Any other cape can go with any other armor

[glacial sedge]

oh so asks set is the one that reduces run/attack/jump stamina

[glacial sedge]

weird now that you mention it though

[tulip patrol]

yes. - 10% run and jump stam usage, -20% attack stam usage

Hildirs clothing is 20% stam reduction for building/repairing . I was mistaken and thought it was tiered, but all them are the same at 20% or 15%

[glacial sedge]

is it really worth it then? I mean what worth does stamina reduction have at that stage when you can just eat good food, get rested, and use potions? embla/flametal feel way better

[trail pelican]

it's MOSTLY for the aesthetics I feel, but hey a little mechanical buff not bad

[glacial sedge]

yeah to give it some use

[nocturne wolf]

The ask set doesn’t reduce movespeed but flametal does

[glacial sedge]

forgor heavy sets did that

[tulip patrol]

Imo, dont eat good food when youre building. Especially in the Meadows. Sleep thru the night so Fulings, Seekers or Charred dont attack. eat berries or honey so you have more stamina to build

[glacial sedge]

I usually wear heavy so I get used to the slowness

[odd helm]

imagine not wearing comfy clothes at home

[glacial sedge]

and when you’re building youd be using hildir clothes so still not a really solid use for asks

[azure yacht]

Fair enough

[glacial sedge]

but I mean I guess it does serve its role for what it’s meant to be

maybe a slight speed buff would be nice

[vital umbra]

i've been wearing clothes for half the in-game days so far lol..

i've been building, mining, chopping, farming, cooking, and all the while when raids happen i just don't feel like looking for my armour

[patent wren]

My curse is a raid starting and me forgetting I havent eaten health foods...

[glacial sedge]

My curse is a raid starting

[rotund parrot]

My curse is forgetting to remove my root harnesk for a surtling raid

[nocturne wolf]

The worst time a raid can start is when you log in so you’re not rested

[tulip patrol]

I've been chilling the mountains building a castle and the only raids ive gotten were two Ghost raids

[vital umbra]

when do i get ghost raids

[tulip patrol]

and 1 skele raid

[trail pelican]

mountains are one of the smallest eligible raid pools IIRC

[tulip patrol]

Yeah,

[glacial sedge]

yet that pool has some of the most annoying raids

[trail pelican]

which, besides the view, one of the few things suggesting them as potential base locations

cuz you can't grow shit up there!

[patent wren]

Consider instead: a raid starting while youre transporting animals

[old flint]

I have never built a base outside meadows which kind of upsets me rn

[glacial sedge]

wolf raid in the middle of the plains biome is a great time

[trail pelican]

unlikely other than wolves, but, wolves would def rip your 2 star boars apart--loxes, depends upon how it plays out, asksvin probs fine, wolves don't act tame wolves

[trail pelican]

not even plains?

[tribal trench]

Just Tamed my first Asksvin and it was a 1 star.

[trail pelican]

plains is great for farms--farm all 5 crops up that point in one place

[old flint]

started, never finished

[patent wren]

Unlikely but not impossible, if your raid timer gets real unlucky while youre approaching the outer wall of your base!

[glacial sedge]

plains is great, the deathsquitos are minor, the fulings are parry heavy, the lox are great to tame and farm, and the growths are hellspawn. pretty solid base biome imo (plenty of fine wood too)

[rotund parrot]

Doesn't the wolf raid happen anywhere not around bases?

[plush umbra]

in plains and mountains in a post-bonemass world

[trail pelican]

are they ever REALLY finished?

[rotund parrot]

Well, anywhere in certain biomes

[trail pelican]

yes

it's the inverse of the usual "within x distance of at least 3 player base objects"--so NOT in the radius of 3, 2 or less only

[rotund parrot]

i dont mind it as much in plains but in the mountain before you are geared up it is very dangerous

[plush umbra]

is it really prevented in bases?

[trail pelican]

wolf raid? as long as you AREN'T technically within whatever the distance is from 3 objects, should be

I IMAGINE it's entirely possible in some parts of what you might technically consider your "base" that you still might satisfy this requirement (e.g. near the periphery, maybe near just one workbench or campfire, etc)

[plush umbra]

i don't see why it would stop happening in base coverage, but i'll hop on and test right away

[patent wren]

Wiki only mentions that the base structures arent required, not that base structures prevent the Hunted raid...

[trail pelican]

it def does specifically @plush umbra

[plush umbra]

source?

[patent wren]

It may be that it shuffles it sufficiently down in the queue that any other available raid is more likely than the Hunted raid, but it isn't explicitly disabled?

[plush umbra]

just tested, it can still happen if you're standing directly next to 3+ player base structures, it's just mixed into the other invasions with an equal chance

[tulip patrol]

Yeah its most liekyl to happen out in the wild, since nothing else can "raid" you in the wild. Also the Wolves are Hunting you, they can hunt you anymore technically. It just also has to work around every other raid that raids the bases

[trail pelican]

oh shit, i stand corrected--I could have sworn I read it that way but looking over the phrasing on wiki again at least it DOESN'T say CAN'T happen near 3
i just interpreted that way wrongly

funnily, I think this misperception was reinforced by never having (yet) rolled it at base lol

[plush umbra]

oh 😅 words, my worst enemy

[swift dove]

My base is in the mountains now, I love it. I have only had a swamp raid with undeads before at this base (yeah they came all the way up for me I guess lol (see me get raided now by wolfs now I have said this lol)

[trail pelican]

truly a double-edged sword!

semi-related, I love the idea of raids that are possible NOT at base, hope they add at least a handful more

[plush umbra]

yea
if i remember correctly the gjall invasion was meant to be that way but probably by accident wasn't?

[patent wren]

Speaking of words and the Events page on the wiki, why does it say "bigger minimap"?? Does it mean when you open map with M? If thats still minimap, whats the full map?!

[plush umbra]

could absolutely be misremembering that

[plush umbra]

the secret keybind, hidden for a good reason

[tulip patrol]

Gjall raids can only happen in the Mistland, and only between Yag and QUeen. You can an entire world without ever getting a Gjall raid if you dont spend alot of times in a Mistlands base and you kill the Queen fast

[plush umbra]

yea that raid already has plenty weird about it

it's the first raid to break the tradition of each biome only having one "army_[...]" raid (raids that start after one boss is defeated and stop after the next is defeated)

[tulip patrol]

Might be meaning you can zoom in and zoom out on your minimap

[heady parcel]

I've had it once, I bravely ran away and let them pulverize my poor little FOB. The portal was under a rock so at least they couldn't get to that...

[plush umbra]

and it doesn't even make sense as an army raid! it can only happen in mistlands, army raids are supposed to tell the player outside of the biome where to go next, which boss has its eyes on them now

[trail pelican]

the tactically sound decision

[tulip patrol]

Wierdly enough Seeker raids can happen in the Ashlands. when you technically arent supposed to reach the Ashlands until after you defeat the Queen to be able to get the Queens scale to make the items you need for the Drakkar

[rotund parrot]

Never had the gjall raid since I stopped making a proper mistland farm

[trail pelican]

yeah I never got it--didn't realize Queen disabled it

[tacit crystal]

I just hope they enable Seeker raid in Meadows again.

[tulip patrol]

Seeker can spawn in the Meadows at night

[glacial sedge]

is it worth making a mistlands base?

[rotund parrot]

They made the seeker raid a lot weaker too right?

[heady parcel]

I make sure to make my mistlands farm fly under the raid radar

[tacit crystal]

Yes, after defeating Queen

[plush umbra]

it's easier to fortify near the shores than you'd think. the terrain makes it easy to spawnproof areas and funnel enemies down fewer paths

[tacit crystal]

Yes, A LOT. They even had Soldiers back during PTB.

[rotund parrot]

Good times

[tacit crystal]

Also hoping they revert Seeker AI back how it was before.

[rotund parrot]

Most thing seem to behave like this now, do a couple hit, run away for a little and then come back for a couple hit

[sinful fulcrum]

Seeker ai back then was true space trooper vibe

[rotund parrot]

I guess just the big enemies of each biomes doesn't and skeletons

[warm sandal]

the heck...when i need to go sail fast and see where i need to go then i get storms all the time and fog and all that jazz...and now where i am wantig storms for the sea serpent (cause i want good food for yag fight) i get NONE!

[old flint]

scythe is nice, now we need a lox/askvin powered plow to plant seed faster

[trail pelican]

an item to control/clear weather? 🤔

wonder if that'd be that difficult, just have it override the 'default' weather schedle

[warm sandal]

that would be fab 😄 l

it would need to be very costly or folks would just have fine weather all the time and that would spoil some of the experiance when you get the wet debuff while you try to fight something or such... i prefer it being not easily changeable

[old flint]

long long stick to poke the gods for rain

[trail pelican]

unironically the inverse, to conjure a storm, for serpent hunting, would be actually useful if no other additional ways to seek out/find serpents more deliberately

i'd still love to see some raids at sea (e.g. serpents)

[plush umbra]

implementation-wise that should be really simple, can already do that with env

[trail pelican]

me being a rube on such matters I try to never make assumptions, but that was my GUT

[rotund parrot]

Has anyone ever bothered to find out on which in game days you get storms and if it's always the same cycle?

[old flint]

Trying to complete having all sets and I dont have a single trophy for fenris hood

[trail pelican]

i know the WEATHER system is just fixed based upon day and I THINK the same for all seeds

i DON'T know if said weather system includes all things like the storms

[rotund parrot]

I know it's fixed and the same for all seeds

Im just wondering if the cycle repeat itself

[trail pelican]

so the question is, does or does that not include the storms?

oh i see, like a pattern

in a sense, it certainly has to right--like even if it never per se repeats, it has to procedurally generate

[rotund parrot]

I think it most likely repeat itself and a cycle is a few days long and it's different for each biome

Like you will never get any rain in a meadow for the first few in-game days so I'd guess a cycle must be at least 5 days

[arctic estuary]

I know this is a dumb question but do I need to re-generate my world for the new trader to spawn?

[rotund parrot]

No just explore new swamps that are at least 200 meters from where you already went to and it will be able to spawn there

[arctic estuary]

👍

Thank you!

[vocal rivet]

http://valheim.kirilloid.ru/weather

[warm sandal]

huuu found second yag altar by sailing by it is right at the coast like half of it bordering water

[rotund parrot]

There doesn't seem to be any particular cycle other than having some mist about once a week and rain every 3 days or so except the first 5 days

[trail pelican]

i wonder how they figure out the pattern--they, surely, cannot have preprogrammed an arbitrarily chosen schedule thousands upon thousands of days out...right?

like it's gotta be some kind of math formula basically, that inputs of biome & # of days go in, and the weather comes out, right?

[rotund parrot]

I have no clue but now I know not to build my first meadow base on day 6 and 8

[old flint]

just died jumping into bottom of frost cave, I officially have become dependent of feather cape

Chased by wolves around mountains with nothing but cape trying to retvieve my items. Sendhelp

SINCE WHEN DID WOLFES LEARN TO CLIMB LIKE MOUNTAIN GOATS

[fallen zephyr]

'Distractions' would be a cool addition to the game. Maybe give us the facility to throw boar meat (or something) to take the attention of (e.g.) wolves.

[trail pelican]

that's an interesting idea

[keen cliff]

sigh. i didn't help that i was swamp/crypt light in the early game. i'm having a hard time finding unexplored swamps

[sinful arrow]

so i need to start another playthrough to get bog witch?

[old flint]

I was wandering in this labyrinth (frost cave) to find my gear and was chased by 5 ulves

luckily, I found my items and slapped them with Slayer

[trail pelican]

as long as you have unexplored swamps she can spawn in no

[sinful arrow]

nice

[fallen zephyr]

I don't think so. Every other expansion with biome-specific additions just meant that you'd have to discover them in that specific biome that you haven't explored yet.

[sinful arrow]

thank god for that, it was hard to get this far for me x.x

[fallen zephyr]

(#valheim-chat message for a more succinct version).

[sinful arrow]

i just started with the swamp

[trail pelican]

that's good, that probably means you've left nearly all your swamps ungenerated and PROBABLY given the # of chances to spawn there's still one the witch wil spawn in

[sinful arrow]

yea the swamp i found is pretty big, didnt explore all of it since i found the boss spawn

[trail pelican]

honestly, the FIRST swamp you find is PROBABLY less likely to have the witch regardless of size, unless you happened to go far out from spawn to get to it--I think the witch only starts spawning like the other traders a certain minimum distance out from spawn

[fallen zephyr]

There's little more satisfying in Valheim than finding that one swamp island that has like 12-15 Sunken Crypts.

[old flint]

yes its around same distance as haldor and hildir

[vapid hearth]

Did the update make it so that you no longer gain extra jump height from the feather cape?

[fallen zephyr]

Haldor, Hildir, and Witchhir.

[keen cliff]

Bog witch = Bitchr ? 🙂

[fallen zephyr]

Is she, though? I've not found it yet. Is the BogWitch particularly antisocial?

[keen cliff]

i dunno either. still looking

she hides out in the swamp though. that's not a social place imo

if she wanted visitors, i feel like she'd be chilling in the meadows

[old flint]

Her brooms the more social one, violent though.

[fallen zephyr]

True. It's a bit of a... draugr.

[odd helm]

she only sells potion materials to the strongest vikings that can survive the swamps

you could not handle her potions otherwise

[fallen zephyr]

If you can't handle the Bog Witch at her homeopathist, you don't deserve her at her potionest!

It'd be pretty cool if the Bog Witch started us on a quest that resulted in the equivalent of a Baba Yaga Hut, though. A mobile comfort level 3 sounds quite appealing.

[spark summit]

could it be possible to have 0 turnip in two complete swamp biomes ?

[old flint]

yes

[spark summit]

ok thanks xD

[plush umbra]

though it's also easy to miss them

[trail pelican]

RNG is a fickle mistress

[spark summit]

yeah I have considered the problem very carefully, walking slowly and observing each square meter

with lookalike pictures for help 😄

[fallen zephyr]

TURNIP FOR WHAT?!

[rotund parrot]

They will often spawn in the border between a black forest and a swamp as there's much more surface area for them to spawn and it's also safer so you can often get those seeds early

[drowsy vortex]

just tried playing since they fixed the controller bug. my experience is that its still bugged, not at all to the same extent, but still bugged. just me or is anyone else sharing my experience?

[old flint]

updated the game?

[drowsy vortex]

im assuming it updates automatically on xbox? (it's done so in the past atleast)

also, the fact that the bug is way less frequent suggests some update has been done

[keen cliff]

woooo. found that bitch! um, i mean, witch!

[trail pelican]

Bitchr

[old flint]

When i got staff of the wild weeks back I sent a root down the mountain. Just checked it was still there

despawned once i got close

[glacial sedge]

wog bitch goes hard

[glacial sedge]

you’re onto something

[heady parcel]

This is weird. I read a runestone to get the Elder's location, but when I got there there's nothing there. Just a burial chamber nearby, but no elder altar anywhere to be seen. Relatively new world (after Ashlands).

[keen cliff]

known issue when updating. the map changes would have shuffled boss locations if you haven't explored it yet.

ie, old vgesir locations will be wrong if you haven't actually gone there yet

[heady parcel]

So bog witch enough to cause a shuffle?

Gotcha

[trail pelican]

but, you SHOULD be able to read the vegesir again, and I THINK it will give the correct, new, location

I'd remove the old ones to avoid confusion (think you can delete boss markers IIRC)

[heady parcel]

Shame, I was planning to dig a cave beneath this one, a well - back to exploring

[fallen zephyr]

*vesvigir

[trail pelican]

vesvi-something--lol, I cannot for the life of me remember the spelling of that word

[plush umbra]

*vegvisir

[keen cliff]

i can never rembember how to spell that one

[old flint]

vegvisir

[keen cliff]

veggimite sandwich

[fallen zephyr]

DAMMIT!

[plush umbra]

i was half expecting you to be joking moose

[keen cliff]

THE CORRECTER BECOMES THE CORRECTEEEEEEE

[fallen zephyr]

The other half was correct in this instance

[plush umbra]

i saw that

[keen cliff]

my other half is basically always correct. especially if you ask her

[merry pebble]

~~WE saw that ~~

[heady parcel]

vegvisir is just a funny way of spelling vägvisare to make it look more old norse and not use letters with dots in funny places. Means pathfinder, or rather "shower of paths"

[old flint]

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-up-yes-good-job-you-got-it-yup-gif-14228768

[fallen zephyr]

Vesvisir is a funny way of spelling QR-code-to-Google-maps.

[old flint]

pathfinder you say?

[odd helm]

https://tenor.com/view/thumbs-up-yes-good-job-you-got-it-yup-gif-14228768

[heady parcel]

lol

crikey this part of the woods got a bunch of burial chambers to compensate for the elder going poof

[keen cliff]

i got an idea: if a mob is wet, it should increase the proc chance of chain lightning. and it works the same on the bounces.

[fallen zephyr]

What makes you think Elder is queer?

[drowsy vortex]

lots of funny names in this game if you speak Swedish/Norweigan

[plush umbra]

now if only wetness on mobs wasn't unintuitive

[heady parcel]

As it should be 🙂

[drowsy vortex]

aye 🙂

[fallen zephyr]

Why would it be unituitive?

[plush umbra]

because you might think "oh it's raining, my lightning and frost weapons are gonna rip" but enemies are unaffected by weather, they can only get wet from submerging themselves in water

[fallen zephyr]

Oh, so lack of wetness is unintuitive - yes, I agree. Along with enemies suffering no fall damage, and being able to run at full speed along the bottom of a body of water.

[keen cliff]

yeah, but i'm in the swamp right now, so they are submerging themselves a lot 🙂

but yeah, they should get wet from rain too

[trail pelican]

i think that's MOSTLY a balance thing

[keen cliff]

Bog Witch, aka, the Bitchr, music is awesome btw

[plush umbra]

problem's just that that is the best biome for that interaction by a mile 😅
and it's before you obtain any frost or lightning weapons

[trail pelican]

more so the more so you add effects making it net worse usually (for the mobs) to be wet

[heady parcel]

and being able to run at full speed along the bottom of a body of water.
This one bothers me, trying to outpaddle a bunch of archers has killed me a few times...

Nevermind they can shoot bows underwater too

[keen cliff]

also, you can't use any weapons except fists while swimming.

[plush umbra]

i'm pretty sure it's mostly to save on the amount of checks every enemy has to run constantly.
early valheim balancing was already wack as hell, there are worse things throwing it off

[trail pelican]

hadn't thought of that

i hadn't realized you could use fists even @keen cliff

[fallen zephyr]

If it's a balance thing, it's lazy. Adjust damage taken; adjust damage delivered; adjust resistances. Don't make me turn my longship to make the most of the wind direction so I can avoid a Draugr that demonstrates some kind of benthic superpower.

[trail pelican]

interesting that they, technically--albeit VERY niche--then have a unique special use case

[trail pelican]

that's a good point--there's no REAL reason any unbalance couldn't be redressed by readjusting numbers i.e. just make the effect weaker (not as much damage added) if it's found that having it more commonly effecting enemies is making them too easy to kill

[keen cliff]

yeah, but i don't think you can use fist weapons. just fists

[trail pelican]

oh goddamnit

nevermind then lol

poor poor flesh rippers--you didn't deserve this

[fallen zephyr]

Fisting is more a cooperative skill than it is competitive.

[keen cliff]

chitin should also make a trident which is usable while swimming. and then make the abyssal razor also work while swimming

[trail pelican]

love that

[inland drum]

Can I find the new trader if I've seen the whole map?

[keen cliff]

something to go with the new swimming potions 🙂

[odd helm]

depends, how did you see the whole map?

[fallen zephyr]

I think you already know the answer.

[inland drum]

cheat

just messing around on a solo server, testing mods and such, so I can just as easily start a new one

[odd helm]

exploremap doesn't actually generate anything, just gives you a visual of the map, so you should still be fine

[inland drum]

nice thanks!

[odd helm]

make sure your mods are disabled or updated tho, we had a unity engine upgrade

[inland drum]

Yeah I only have updated mods active

[fallen zephyr]

This is another enemy issue; nobody but players have swimming stamina. A fuling can swim after you forever if you don't break the aggro range.

[trail pelican]

even stranger, tames DO--i.e. you tame a lox, saddle up, ride out to sea, it will swim with you on top a while, but the stamina bar will deplete, and when it runs out, lox starts losing health just like a player

[keen cliff]

yeah. i guess it's just to simplify coding the enemies. no fall damage, no stamina

[trail pelican]

BEGGING the question--did it only get a stamina bar when it became tame?

[keen cliff]

also, i guess the enemies are kinda easy enough. no need to handicap them more

[trail pelican]

are all lox, tame or not, like this, and it's just a subset of enemies using stamina?

[inland drum]

any tips on where the new trader is located? Biome?

[trail pelican]

swamp, far enough out from spawn

[fallen zephyr]

That's a great question! I don't know the answer.

[keen cliff]

i'm guessing the stamina bar a lox get is a function of the saddle3

not being tamed

[trail pelican]

this could definitely be tested by riding a lox into water and then removing the saddle and seeing if it takes damage/drowns

[keen cliff]

ie, all your other tamed lox don't suddenly have stamina bars. it's only when you saddle it. yeah, that would test it

[trail pelican]

for a control, try to get a tamed but never saddled lox into the water too

[keen cliff]

tamed wolves can swim forever. no stam

[fallen zephyr]

That depends on when you encounter them. Evading a rampaging, water-walking couple of draugr on a raft is a very different prospect to doing it on a longship.

[keen cliff]

that's true

[fallen zephyr]

Ticks do it too. They just navigate water beds like they're standard flatlands.

[keen cliff]

new scythe is great!

[inland drum]

wait a minute

[warm sandal]

you know what i would like to have displayed somewhere: what percentage of the whole world you have explored already... that i would love a lot

[inland drum]

does the new update make you get discover updates on everything all over again?

[hazy bolt]

im obsessed with making stuctures that meld into the terrain. Anyone else feel like this?

[warm sandal]

it did not for me

[warm sandal]

I love building without altering the terrain to much or felling all trees and make it all flat 😄 so i guess yeah i am like that

[fading dew]

is there a way to bind roll to be something else

[keen cliff]

no

[inland drum]

did y'all try to kill the broom yet?

[warm sandal]

no

[inland drum]

New trophy too

[keen cliff]

time to buy the new farming clothes!

[inland drum]

I dont get what to use these trader items for though

[keen cliff]

woo. finally doing something with all this gold that's been piling up

[warm sandal]

you got the new crafting stations?

[keen cliff]

you make stuff with them. they are ingredients

[rotund parrot]

There was 2 brooms for me I had really good gear and they didn't feel like pushovers so better be careful around them

[inland drum]

yeah, bought everything

[warm sandal]

yeah but to use it you need to make the new crafting stations too? that was what I was asking for 😄

[inland drum]

bought everything, built new crafting station. So everything is just food?

[warm sandal]

you build a ketil?

go look at that one too

[inland drum]

jesus christ

[keen cliff]

it's all food, meads, cooking/farming/crafting. that's what this update was all about, yes

[warm sandal]

i am sure he has nothing to do with that 😄

[inland drum]

Sorry, Odin Borson

[warm sandal]

i can not decide what i want to try out first though 😄

[tacit crystal]

Ratatosk with Fenris set 🤭

[old flint]

how to tame askvin? strategy, food?

[keen cliff]

i used some basic ingredients i don't use anymore to make the mountain feast

[tacit crystal]

Lure it into a pit, feed it with Ashlands vegs (Fiddlehead, Smokepuff, Vineberry)

[keen cliff]

could be good base food. though i don't have a lot of mushrooms. i need to analyze the feasts by which of them have the more farmable ingredients

[old flint]

they all make hell of a decoration tho

[fallen zephyr]

The new crafting stations are about compartmentalising recipes.

[keen cliff]

they are all very pretty, yeah

[warm sandal]

was thinking that too... i could outrun anything then if the buffs do stack

[plush umbra]

-# you good moose

[inland drum]

whats the scythe thing for?

[keen cliff]

harvesting

[rain flare]

Ratataskr, fenris, and eikthyr for endless sprinting
Add in the asksvin cape

[inland drum]

where do you build the tool?

[tacit crystal]

They do stack, also ||Wind Run|| and ||Fader power||

[keen cliff]

where do you think?

holy crap, why not just click on a few different crafting tables?

[inland drum]

your moms basement

[trail pelican]

to be fair, it's kinda complicated--you have to buy part of it first, THEN it would be visible

[odd helm]

Depends on which bosses you've beaten as well

[inland drum]

i did buy the part, I just cant find where to buy it. Have beaten yagluth

[trail pelican]

oh yeah, and that @odd helm literally otherwise, one would have no idea

[warm sandal]

i am still on the hunt for the missing ingredient ... the recipe does not show up for me ...so i am gonna hunt down what ever I have hunted before and see what unlocks it 😄 he he he

[odd helm]

-# did they change the boss requirement from Moder in the last PTB?

[plush umbra]

kinda surprising, it's a common ingredient

[fallen zephyr]

It's love. The missing ingredient is love.

[tacit crystal]

After defeating Moder, yes.

[odd helm]

By that time, I'd assume that you've collected the missing ingredient as well

[warm sandal]

I have checked every bench thrice... so i am missing something 😄

[odd helm]

It's definitely around the same tier

[warm sandal]

might be i only need touch it going through all my boxes now

[inland drum]

Forge

[old flint]

normal forge, 6 silver and scythe handle

I love these new axes from ashlands

[warm sandal]

lol... touched everything in the bottom row of boxes that is were all the metals are 😄

and now it is there

[old flint]

does heat resistance work against only lava or fire too

[keen cliff]

only lava and ocean

er, i think it helps with boiling ocean. not sure on that one

[tacit crystal]

Both lava and boiling water are related to heat damage

[rain flare]

Heat resistance delays the time it takes to make you die

it's not heat immunity

[trail pelican]

yeah basically gives you just a little more time

[warm sandal]

very satisfying... makes quick work of harvesting 😄 need to replant in the morrow...

[tacit crystal]

It lowers also the damage ticks from the heat

[trail pelican]

i think also mitigates some damage--but functionally, more time before the DoT starts, then kills you

i don't have much handle on how noticeable it is. really--because by definition you're IDEALLY (still) trying to avoid those situations as much as possible and it's just a little extra cushion

[odd helm]

Unfortunately bog witch doesn't sell fireblossom or waterleaf or else we could get it as a potion

[trail pelican]

imagine, you drink a mead then start just running over lava

[foggy glacier]

So I just discovered that the staff of fracturing is especially deadly if you have a dry-moat surrounding your base, or rather the 45 blobs & oozers who decided to visit me did. The little fireballs just carom off the walls of the moat like a pinball machine.

[old flint]

I have a tactic I can recommend.. it includes jumping, running and jumping again and flametal armor + the feather cape 😉

just make sure theres a rock nearby to rest there

[trail pelican]

lol

[rotund parrot]

Alternatively you can ride an askvin and his stamina bar will get you all the way to the end of the continent without having to worry about lava. And then you abandon him there

[old flint]

youre cruel

I had a lox, it died, I buried it. Havent rode a lox since

[rotund parrot]

I just assume they thrive where I leave them

[tacit crystal]

Like this? https://tenor.com/fi/view/mario-fun-middle-finger-betrayal-gif-7300283630625575546

[rotund parrot]

Only difference is I pick up the saddle before saying goodbye

[trail pelican]

shit, if they could just obey the follow command none of that would be necessary

[keen cliff]

the plains feast is very efficient. you just need barley, lox meat, and cloudberries

(bread, lox meat pie, cloudberries)

[rotund parrot]

They all are

[keen cliff]

just easier to get cloudberries compared to mushrooms

comparing it to the mountain feast

cloudberries are the pickable that seem to be most plentiful

[rotund parrot]

definitely

[halcyon ravine]

I am trying to see how far I can get without killing any bosses, is their a way to break iron lumps without a pickaxe?

Maybe find overworld, use a hoe to lower ground and bring a troll?

[plush umbra]

you can get a bronze pickaxe with the help of trolls

[nocturne wolf]

Get a troll to break some ores in black forest to make a bronze pickaxe

[keen cliff]

you can get a bronze pickaxe without killing a boss

lol i'm way too slow

[warm sandal]

you can also kill ooze and blob to get some odd iron scrap

[halcyon ravine]

You cant craft a pickaxe withou first getting an antler iirc

[heady parcel]

Oh, something I've been wondering a long time - minor thing but still - will the skippyjump animation when walking up tall ladders ever change?

[keen cliff]

you just need bronze and wood. i was doing a no boss run with this viking.

[nocturne wolf]

Only the antler pickaxe needs antlers

[trail pelican]

you gonna confuse newbies with this tho lol

[keen cliff]

i mean, he's specifically asking about a no boss run

[trail pelican]

oh well, then he's asking for it--missed that critical detail lol

[warm sandal]

you can get a troll to break ore deposites and then you can go smelter it 😄

[plush umbra]

all recipes in the game are gated only behind their ingredients (crafting station levels count as an ingredient)
if you have all you need to craft it, you can craft it, the game won't arbitrarily deny it

[halcyon ravine]

Yeah I have bronze, I'm not seeing it, do I need corewood or something?

[plush umbra]

i think so

[trail pelican]

for the bronze pick no

[keen cliff]

yes, core wood

[light wharf]

heloo all im a returning player from the ash lands update any new stuff out and if so what and also help me pls to know how to use it lol

[keen cliff]

core wood + bronze is the bronze pickaxe

[halcyon ravine]

more troll mining lets go

[trail pelican]

oh you right--I was mistakenly looking at bronze AXE

[halcyon ravine]

yall were right, I got it lets go

[keen cliff]

i gave up my no-boss run trying to look for iron, was such a pita

[heady parcel]

I love when the game conspires to kill you but you manage to survive all the same. Forgot to eat while on a hike in the plains, when I realise I quickly gobble down some food, but before it regenerates I hear the stukas coming in. Three of them, but managed to dodge/block and kill them all. Phew...

[keen cliff]

and i didn't want to glitch into crypts

[halcyon ravine]

Use the chair method

[keen cliff]

no boss, no glitch, yeah

[halcyon ravine]

Fair

Thats a hard one tho

How needed is silver anyways?

I can do plains with troll armour pretty easily

[heady parcel]

Silver sword is very good vs Yag, and no silver, no Frostner

[keen cliff]

you can do silver easier in a no-boss run i think

[halcyon ravine]

abyssal razor tho

[keen cliff]

silver veins are easier to find

[halcyon ravine]

Yeah but I'd need frost mead and thats a pain in my arse

[heady parcel]

Silver is pretty often actually protruding a bit above ground

[keen cliff]

you can run into a frost cave, and get fenris hair for chest

[halcyon ravine]

same with iron

[keen cliff]

that's what i did with this guy. got fenris chest before frost mead

[halcyon ravine]

pickaxe aquired

[hazy bolt]

i met a miniboss in the first cave i found. really insane fight

[trail pelican]

lol, wow talk about the luck on that @hazy bolt

[plush umbra]

-# finally, someone respecting the fact that the capes aren't the only pieces with frost resistance, and certainly not the only ones worth making first

[halcyon ravine]

I always just forget about fenris

[hazy bolt]

lucky!? i had to use 2000 arrows on that thing

[warm sandal]

i almost always get the wolf chest first 😄 easier then wolf cape

[plush umbra]

either wolf chest or lox cape for me, but fenris coat honestly seems really reasonable too since you're safe from the cold in there

[rotund parrot]

I get neither and get the lox cape like 2 hours later, the 12 frost resist are enough for me to do everything I need to do in the mountain and move on

[plush umbra]

(i just really love the lox cape's aesthetic so i make it sooner or later anyway, might as well do it early)

[halcyon ravine]

I'd noramlly just go for padded

but I cannot do that so rip

[heady parcel]

I love that one too, very much prefer it to the wolf cape

[plush umbra]

i go up with 3 or so frost meads to find a silver vein (often with stagbreaker), come down, go to plains to hunt some lox, sweet cape~
on this run, it only took scar and 1 frost mead each for that trip

[heady parcel]

matches fenris well too

[hazy bolt]

the best thing you can do in this game is to get 100 blood magic. it gives you a 700 dmg shield imo

[plush umbra]

so rare that i get to hear that~

[rotund parrot]

I always preferred the look of the lox cape over the wolf, it's also a big bonus that it cost so much less silver

[plush umbra]

700 damage in your opinion? what if the enemies disagree

[heady parcel]

Sealed Tower whey, first time solo. Last time I distracted them while my brother put a crapload of arrows into them

[keen cliff]

i cheesed the sealed tower boss with hammer on the ground floor lol

you can smack him from outside the tower

[trail pelican]

that's hilarious

sledges once again undefeated

[unreal bear]

Poor Linen cape gets no love. But you can dye it colors!

[heady parcel]

I couldn't bring myself to do that

[trail pelican]

it get no love becaues it requires sacrificing cold resistance!

[unreal bear]

Haha I know

[heady parcel]

It's pwetteeh, but it doesn't keep you warm and cozeeeh

[plush umbra]

i give any cape with apron mode bonus points, but i still find its model too...messy ´v`"
it has no width (i want a wide silhouette, lox cape is perfect in that regard) no detail on the neck, heck it just clips into your back instead of actually wrapping around your neck in any way iirc.

[unreal bear]

I think I made a linen cape one time to match with my Fenris set. Got a white cloak to go with the all-black, and it seems Fenris set gives frost resist, ya? I think that was my reasoning behind it

[plush umbra]

yea, fenris and wolf armor chests both give you frost resistance

[heady parcel]

ugh turns out this tower has a massive tar pit at its base, tar blobs are angry at the little guys in the tower. All very noisy

[keen cliff]

tar guys are no joke. they are the only things in the plains i am careful about, in ashlands gear

[north goblet]

is the game gonna be on a higher sale soon?

[keen cliff]

isn't it 50% right now?

[north goblet]

im too broke to buy it atm, student things

[plush umbra]

i run in circles a good bit away from the put, ever so slowly inching closer to it until one of them notices me, then i wait for it to approach, walk sideways to avoid the spit and oneshot them with a club secondary attack

[north goblet]

dawg i am carefully managing finances rn, is no good and sale ends nov 3

[plush umbra]

using a bow could massively speed up the first step but i'm too stubborn to touch bows

[keen cliff]

it's $10 USD

it's not going to get cheaper than that afaik

[heady parcel]

I am very careful to not aggro a whole gang of them, and if it happens I'll just run

[plush umbra]

and if it does, not often

[tacit crystal]

I've noticed with high leveled gear that when you block their attacks they don't apply tarred debuff on you, only poisons for few seconds. At least with Flametal shield.

[north goblet]

😔
im in a third world country man, shits bad

[keen cliff]

you're in Mississippi? Man, that sucks. I avoid the south

[north goblet]

bro worse, fucking yemen

[keen cliff]

but it's probably as cheap as you'll see it

[heady parcel]

Yeah, I've seen games at 25% occasionally - but that'd be after full release and full price. 50% of the Early Access price is probably as low as it will get

[north goblet]

😔

[near furnace]

yeah 50% is what we run usually

[keen cliff]

Yemen has been dealing with hyper inflation. yikes

[rotund dust]

Is there a point with blood magic skill high enough, that the Dead Raiser from Mistlands, is actually viable?

[gray sand]

It's one of the favorites for people so... very yes.

[rotund dust]

The skeletons are so underwhelming tho haha

[gray sand]

Then don't use it 🤷‍♂️

[keen cliff]

dead raiser is viable with 0 skill

it does benefit from higher skill more than other things though

[rotund dust]

Dont get me wrong, i love the idea of it, but when im playing with dead raiser, unless i keep spamming staff of protection, they just die 😂

[rotund dust]

This is what i needed to hear 😄

[keen cliff]

i did setup a greydwarf blood magic afk farm.

staff of protection for skeletons is a NECESSITY no matter your blood magic level

but that's the mage playstyle anyways. always be bubbling

[rotund dust]

Im one of those people that doesnt do "afk" farms for skills, i like leveling it myself, (plus just means i get to explore more map while doing so)

[restive linden]

Is it just me or have the “you are being hunted” raids increased since the Bog Witch update? Not a complaint, by the way. Just something I’ve noticed. I’ve had more wolf raids since the witch update than I have had across entire past playthroughs lol.

Maybe I’m just on an unlucky streak. Or lucky, depending on how you look at it.

[gray sand]

No. Because I have raids turned off. 😉😏😏😏

[keen cliff]

i think just RNG, Sammy

[restive linden]

Yeah. I don’t mind it. Lots of wolf loot!

[gray sand]

Simple raid when you have the atgeir too.

[sly quail]

I haven't gotten any, strangely I can also take metal through portals. It's almost like I have raids off and restricted items through portals on.

[restive linden]

Fantastic. Clearly, my question was not meant for people with raids turned off. 🙂

[heady parcel]

Got a Hunted event while I was inside the Sealed Tower, never felt so safe for all the wrong reasons 😄 Wolves danced with the blobs nearby though

[gray sand]

Nice, lol.

Ever since I learned there are eggs in the sealed towers I refuse to buy them.

[keen cliff]

hunted raid in the plains is often useful. fulings vs wolves fight!

[gray sand]

I must earn my chickens.

[trail pelican]

see, i feel the need to create a job for haldor

[keen cliff]

Haldor gets enough of my money. and now he can make barrels

[gray sand]

I buy assloads of fishing bait off him.

Fastest way to mass-produce coal.

[trail pelican]

well ya NOW that he sells barrels, between that and bait, he gonna get ALL my money
that the witch don't get

[hazy bolt]

why fishing bait is so easy to make from trophies

[tacit crystal]

I just started a new run. Hard preset, trying deathless and maybe some weapon restrictions (no bows).. Would I be crazy without bows at all?

[gray sand]

?

[hazy bolt]

against the queen would be hard I think

if you are doing pure melee

[gray sand]

No portals 😛

Queen is easy AF in pure melee.

[rotund dust]

My son and I done a melee queen fight, back when mistlands first came out.
Sure it took us about 7 hours, and 100 deaths, but we got there in the end

[tacit crystal]

It's only Hard preset, only hard combat and more raids 😅

[hazy bolt]

without dying once?

[gray sand]

Yes. Have you never built Himmminimmmnimnmnmimmmnimn Afl?

[tacit crystal]

I haven't died to Queen ever.

[vital umbra]

anyone seen asmongolds fight against the queen b4

[rotund dust]

You ever done it in a multiplayer server, where no one but yourself is over 13, and the kids literally are useless and just cause more spawns/damage/health of everything? 😂

[tacit crystal]

Not in server with minors 😅 But with friend group yes, but don't remember if any of us died.

[rotund dust]

Yeah im sure youre friends are more switched on than my kids 😂

[tacit crystal]

Demolisher is brood swatter 💪

[rotund dust]

My daughter spent whole time thinking bugs were on here IRL 😦

[gray sand]

Himmin Afl vs. Queen

Poke poke poke, poke poke
Dodge
Poke poke poke, poke poke
Dodge
Take this round off to regen stamina

Oh, she spawned adds?
Press MMB twice, they are all dead.

Poke poke poke, poke poke
Dodge
Poke poke poke, poke poke
Dodge
Take this round off to regen stamina

Repeat until dead.

[gray sand]

Facts.

[tacit crystal]

Well, one of my friend in group learned during Mountain era that there was a sprint button 🤣 They always wondered how everyone else were faster than them.

[heady parcel]

My brother learned about the dodge button in Mistlands

[rotund dust]

Dodge is jump so you dont get hit right? 😂

[heady parcel]

He was dying a lot and I thought well it happens, then I saw him just standing there soaking soldier stomps and asked why he wasn't dodging. "What do you mean dodge?" he said...

[tacit crystal]

True, jumping backwards 😅

[trail pelican]

lol

[rotund dust]

Used to jump higher.... But 😢 we all know what happened to that

[gray sand]

Balance. Balance happened to that.

[rotund dust]

Oh thats what we call it, noted 😛

[tacit crystal]

I once tried only melee no bow run, long before Mistlands came.. It was interesting run tbh.

[gray sand]

The only thing that hurts with no bows is fighting Drakes.

[rotund dust]

I reckon the best run you can possibly have, in terms of immersion is no portal no map

That was prob my favourite run

[gray sand]

I can do no portal, but I need my map.

[merry pebble]

Nah, thats the most fun 😄

[tacit crystal]

It was doable with throwing spears, unless you missed 🥲

[rotund dust]

Harpoon 😉

[keen cliff]

you can use bonfires against Drakes pretty well

just have to get the elevations right

[trail pelican]

i may try no map but will probs keep portals after first run, and MAYBE turn resoruces up to 1.5

DUNNO, almost done with Ashlands

[keen cliff]

i have too much to build and experiment with to start a new viking right now

[trail pelican]

indeed lol

[rotund dust]

Anyone ever find Fuling Villages, stand on a high ground, and rain Fireballs down on them, as if you are the Romans conquering barbarian tribes?

[tacit crystal]

Yeah I saw in one video someone using harpoon to aggro some enemies to fight closer

[keen zenith]

I'm having problems with mods

[gray sand]

#mods-issues

[merry pebble]

Probably not updated yet, afaik they break with almost every patch

[keen zenith]

Which mode has the problem?

[gray sand]

#mods-issues

[merry pebble]

idk, probably all of them, folks in #mods-issues or #mods-discussion will know more

[rotund parrot]

I think it would be crazy not to have bows for serpent and drakes especially but good luck no matter what, I think just deathless on hard is hard enough at it is

[tacit crystal]

Yeah, that would be crazy. Harpoon could help with Serpents. Drakes are no problem with good aimed spear throw.

[gray sand]

Does anyone remember when Winter was talking about seeds with the tallest mountains?

[fading dew]

does dyrnwyn have the normal sword secondary attck

[gray sand]

Should, given sword.

[tacit crystal]

I usually skip Crude bow however, so I have time to think about that yeah.

[tacit crystal]

Yes I do.

[rotund parrot]

what? why?

[fading dew]

think its a little underwhelming considering how much work it takes to get it

[gray sand]

I build 1 of everything for the display hall.

[fading dew]

it'd be cool if it had a unique gimmick to it

[gray sand]

It's a sword that lights people on fire.
That's the unique part.

[rotund parrot]

Crude bow does the job just fine, my last playthrough was on my existing character with 100 bows it was funny to see the crudebow aim so fast

[fading dew]

hardly practical though, nidhogg variants just kinda overshadow it

[gray sand]

Do you happen to remember any of the seeds? 😦 I am thinking of deviating from my normal seed for the first time ever... but I want to have one of those tall mountains in case I wish to mountain base.

[keen cliff]

or to mountain catapult off of

[gray sand]

Would have to check the math. Fire DoTs do stack, so it is a fine weapon in its own right.

It's similar to Silver Sword though in being reliant on swinging as fast as possible to get the DoT stacked.

[rotund parrot]

Dyrnwyn does a ton of damage, more raw damage than the other it just doesn't have a special effect, it's still a close second to the thundering one IMO

[gray sand]

I do wish the Prep table didn't require Iron.
Because it makes the Meadows and Black Forest feasts useless by the time you can actually make them 😦

[tacit crystal]

Don't remember the exact seeds but I remember the world gen map.

[gray sand]

Dyrn rank 4 is 163 Slash, 10 Fire
Nid rank 4 is 153 Slash, 10 Ling (25% chance)

So... single-target Dyrn just outright wins.

[rotund parrot]

Not really I liked having the ability to eat 3 different feast to chop wood, farm, etc

[pulsar viper]

question, I have not played since the mistlands update, is ashlands solo as crazy as i am reading on reddit? For context, I was able to deal with the Queen solo without cheese on standard difficulty.

[gray sand]

It is worse stats-wise.
Just longer duration.
If you could actually make the Meadows feast in say the BF (like just make the table cost Finewood) I would find that a lot better, personally.

[rotund parrot]

you'd still need to have explored enough swamp to find the witch for the herbs

[gray sand]

Ashlands was never crazy, people just bitch because they think a self-described "Brutal survival" game should be a cake-walk in the biome dedicated to war.

You'll be fine if you can solo Queen without issue.

Main problems on first landing will be you needing to manage what you actually keep in your pockets because there's like 12 new things that will chew through your slots very quickly. So having dedicated "I am getting this resource" runs become a thing to plan for.

[rotund parrot]

You will be fine, make sure you rest before getting there and get there during the day

[keen cliff]

i see the early feasts as base building food. meadows + plains + mountains feasts, and i don't have to worry about food for a very long time while building.

[rotund parrot]

It was pretty rough on the PTB just because the trees taking damage attracted anything around, but removing that and reducing the spawn rates has made it very much manageable for most people

[gray sand]

It truly is just simplicity.

Like, Meadows feast is 35/35 stat for 50 minutes, but costs 2 Deer and 5 Boar

5 Boar is 30/10 for 100 minutes by itself.

So feasts really are a debate in terms of cost-effectiveness, and are outright worse in stats.
But they are simple for long duration, which is their niche.

[keen cliff]

right. i won't use feasts when i go out into the ashlands. i'll micromanage my food. i'll use feasts when i'm fucking around in the swamp or farming

[gray sand]

Fair.

[rotund parrot]

50 minutes multiplied by 10

[gray sand]

?

[rotund parrot]

AKA 500 minutes

[keen cliff]

each feast you make gets you 10 servings

[gray sand]

👀

[keen cliff]

YES

[gray sand]

🤯

[nocturne wolf]

Feasts are balanced-stat foods so they allow a more specific balance of health and stamina to get exactly what your playstyle works best with

[keen cliff]

you plop that bad boy on a table, and you have easy, long duration food for days

[odd helm]

-# sev no way you missed that

[gray sand]

-# Sev missed that. When updating sheet all he saw was that they stack to 5.

[keen cliff]

they stack to 5, yeah. but each has 10 uses

in fact, i'm going to go cook another one. so far i've just done mountain and plains

it made me switch from the round table to the long table 🙂

[gray sand]

Good for resource and building runs.

Direct food still better for combat.

Dev team hits the balance point once again 💛

[opaque kayak]

Uuuuuuh, are anyone else bee's not producing after this patch?

[foggy glacier]

You can’t just fill up on the three feasts though, if you use magic.

[keen cliff]

before i would be constantly eating honey and crappy jerky around my base. now it's FEAST TIME

[rotund parrot]

I like the stats, when you unlock them, I think they cost too little ingredients and make overall food too easy to achieve once you unlock them

[keen cliff]

yeah, i don't stay in mage build for lower level resource runs or building.

mistlands and ashlands feasts give eitr, however. just not much

[gray sand]

Mistlands and Ashlands Feasts are meant to be the third food in a mage build.

[foggy glacier]

I figured that. Haven’t killed Fader yet so I don’t have the Ashlands feast.

[gray sand]

I will probably update the configuration tab to have EEF builds in those biomes.

[foggy glacier]

Even at max stats, you can’t make a bubble on the 33 eitr from the ML feast

[keen cliff]

mistlands needing misthare supreme makes me not want to make it however. i never really get that much hare stuff

[foggy glacier]

You need the hides for lightfoot anyway

[gray sand]

Just tame the rabbits like we do IRL.

OH WAIT 😭

[light drift]

Just me, or did some items get a visual update? The ingots look shinier

And the soup a bit more.... Rendered?