valheim-chat

[cyan cloak]

Thank you!

[nocturne wolf]

If not you can replace the pavement with cultivated ground again

[cyan cloak]

I'll have to try it out. Thanks!

[past hill]

I dont understand bonemasses power :(

[plush umbra]

it reduces blunt, slash and pierce damage by 50% before your defense is applied
(doesn't stack with the root harnesk)

it's incredibly strong

[past hill]

Woah

I finally got bonemass!!!!!!

Swamp was really hard for me

[nocturne wolf]

Have you found turnips yet?

[past hill]

Nope

[nocturne wolf]

You need them for a cauldron upgrade, without that you’ll never be able to make the right food for your point in progression in any of the future biomes.

[past hill]

Turnip seeds?

[empty nest]

Mace ftw. I tried a now once took a full in game day to down him lol

[plush umbra]

they look similar to carrot seeds but aren't nearly as common or visible.

[empty nest]

Now. Bow

[past hill]

are they in swamps?>

[empty nest]

Yes zy

[past hill]

Swamp is so scary i want the mountains!!

[empty nest]

Very hard to see

[nocturne wolf]

Mountains will be scarier without good food

[past hill]

It looks so pretty

[tacit crystal]

Mountains have more dangerous enemies

[empty nest]

Wolves are over powered

[trail pelican]

LOL technically mountains are balanced to be harder, but ambience wise the swamp definitely one of the scariest

[plush umbra]

and dangerous terrain...sometimes at least

[celest fractal]

you're spot on btw. these other people cant gather that im talking about a group of friends that ive known for 10 years and hang out with in real life. people act like this game is their life smh

[past hill]

EXACTLY and the transition to blackforest to SWAMP IS SO HARD

[nocturne wolf]

The best cliffs for knocking enemies off

[plush umbra]

i got a really nice wolf toss yesterday

[celest fractal]

plains to mistlands is scarier imo

[past hill]

What food combos do i need for mountains

[empty nest]

The feels when you first get smacked with an axe in the swamps and start running for your life

[trail pelican]

it is, part of the classic Valheim experience

[celest fractal]

depends how you play really

[nocturne wolf]

I’d use sausages, turnip stew and either muchshake or black soup

[past hill]

YES THE DRAUGRS I THOUGHT THEY WERE WEAK

[nocturne wolf]

They are weak

[tacit crystal]

You have Iron gear (I presume) now so they should be easier.

[celest fractal]

draugrs are weak if you have the turrets mod installed

[past hill]

For YOU

[past hill]

Whats that why do i need to mod the game for

[celest fractal]

you dont lol

i just have some op mods on my current world

[past hill]

Whats the point of modding

[celest fractal]

its fun especially some of the modpacks like vahalla completely changes the game

[nocturne wolf]

You get more bugs

[tacit crystal]

To add content, althought in Vanilla game there are plenty of content especially for new player.

[trail pelican]

personally i like a few quality of life adjustments like FarmGrid--crops snap to a grid

[celest fractal]

oh is zy new?

[past hill]

Yes i am pretty new 😭

[celest fractal]

yeah then dont worry about modding play the game vanilla first for sure

[plush umbra]

i may be anti-mod (for myself) but i'm also anti-free-placement-farm enough to not disagree with that opinion

it tempts me, but i gotta keep my install folder clean 99% of the time

[celest fractal]

the first time playing is always the best. going into the mistlands without knowing anything about them was sooooo goood!!!!

[trail pelican]

lul

[celest fractal]

theres alot of quality of life stuff you can get with mods. i work a 9-5 i want my gaming experience to be relaxing as can be

[strange arrow]

abuses of power are fine as long as you've known ppl for like 10 years ..... smh

[warm sandal]

i work 7 - 4 and i feel very relaxed playing vanilla valheim all by my lonesome self 😄

[plush umbra]

for my own tastes, valheim as it is (at least most of it) is already QoL heaven, but i can absolutely understand that.
i have more free time than i know what to do with, so yea

[dull marlin]

to fix the game's incredibly terrible performance in multiplayer and late game

[past hill]

are enchantments a thing in this game?

[nocturne wolf]

No

[celest fractal]

abuse of power? bare in mind ive been the quote on quote victim at times. my mates spawn trolls behind me. its funny! i run off screaming. again dude its a game.

[past hill]

they really should add it

[strange arrow]

it's not ok either way

[celest fractal]

u sound boring as

good to know XD

[strange arrow]

and it only takes 1 kid who feels bullied to complain...

[violet maple]

I dont work but still i was not able to find a better game that gives me the same feeling that i got when i first played it with my friends

[nocturne wolf]

In a later biome you get gems used to craft weapon variants with unique effects, does that count?

[past hill]

what does the effect do?

[nocturne wolf]

It depends on the gem used

But two of them use rng

[celest fractal]

im 23 dude. im not playing with kids.

i dont play on public servers as well

[strange arrow]

general point

[past hill]

there are public servers??!!

[nocturne wolf]

Yes, players can choose to allow anyone into their worlds if they want to

[celest fractal]

my point still stands

[strange arrow]

so do mine

[past hill]

I just bought something called megingjord

[celest fractal]

nah

[strange arrow]

condoning it is as bad as doing it

[past hill]

Is it great?

[celest fractal]

very

[pearl cloak]

Did someone say megingjord

[past hill]

I HAD TO SPEND ALL MY GOLD

[pearl cloak]

It's worth it

[tacit crystal]

+150 carrying capacity is great

[past hill]

what is the most carry capacity?

sorry i f i ask too much im just stupid as hell

[nocturne wolf]

900, with megingjord, corpse run and a later boss’ forsaken power

[celest fractal]

i think you shouldnt take it so seriously. hence why me and my friends have never got offended by it ever, and we all do it to each other. i could probably even send you some of the clips just to prove the point further

[violet maple]

Guys, is there a looking for players or server chat section in this server ?

[celest fractal]

450 in vanilla

[past hill]

Oh yeah i wanted to ask whats corpse run i have it everytime i die

[lean glen]

Silly argument lol

[celest fractal]

oh damn is it higher now?

[nocturne wolf]

It grants various buffs to get you out of danger, such as health regeneration

[past hill]

Ouu i see

[strange arrow]

i'm done replying stop pinging me

[celest fractal]

i win

[pearl cloak]

#1024264966712340510 I think

[strange arrow]

sure...

[past hill]

Does the rune stone thing to reveal the bosses applies to all the bossess?

[celest fractal]

yeah

[pearl cloak]

Each boss has their own

[nocturne wolf]

No, it marks the nearest boss of its biome
(There’s multiple spawn points for each boss)

[trail pelican]

not any more 😉 ||bog witch||

[strange arrow]

if you think power abuse is fine yes you win

[celest fractal]

haha bothered

[pearl cloak]

Holy
Seriously? 900!

[past hill]

Yeah i meant the concept like finding the stone

[nocturne wolf]

I still can’t test it yet

[strange arrow]

and victim blaming

[nocturne wolf]

Yes, you can find a vegvisir for every boss

[pearl cloak]

Bog witch sounds really cool. I haven't read anything about it yet

[celest fractal]

let it go now im tired of you

[strange arrow]

why should i?

[plush umbra]

[celest fractal]

lmao

[past hill]

GUYS I ALMOST DIED TO THIS MUDDY STUFF IN PLAINS

[trail pelican]

me neither, stuck at work 😦

[celest fractal]

was it tar?

[nocturne wolf]

Stay away from plains until you have mountains equipment

[past hill]

IDKK

[pearl cloak]

Oh no oh God god have mercy

[strange arrow]

you've revealed all ppl need to know about yr character

[plush umbra]

a tar pit? pretty much the most dangerous part of the biome, best to stay far away from them til you've got some familiarity 😅

[past hill]

IT WAS CHASING ME I ACCIDENTALLY SAILED TO THE PLAINS

[pearl cloak]

I will never go near another tar pit 🙏

[celest fractal]

lmao

[trail pelican]

zy having the authentic Valheim experience

[nocturne wolf]

But the build pieces…

[past hill]

HAHAHA

[celest fractal]

i wish i could play for the first time all over again

[past hill]

will this cute looking pet attack me

[pearl cloak]

I use infinite build, I seriously can't be bothered to gather resources for an entire day I'd get bored and quit

[celest fractal]

lox? XD

[past hill]

whats lox

[nocturne wolf]

Everything in plains will kill you very fast, come back with mountains food and equipment

[pearl cloak]

Really mean animals

[celest fractal]

omg yes! ive been doing that with devcommands in my server. me and my friend cant be bothered with the grinding

[past hill]

Okay

[past hill]

THe wolves are meaner why do they do so much damage

[trail pelican]

they're trying to hug you, they don't know their own strength

[celest fractal]

im still yet to tame one

[plush umbra]

oh trust me, lox are gonna hurt more once they care

[pearl cloak]

Ikr
It's def commands to speed shit up or stop playing for me and anyone who says otherwise is literally ableist 😂😂😭😭(/hj)

[past hill]

U CAN TAME ANIMALS??!!

[nocturne wolf]

They have less health than draugr and they’re short

[trail pelican]

yup, several

[pearl cloak]

I hate lox so much I always go out of my way to kill them with ashlands gear

[celest fractal]

innit! we made the rule that once we beat a biome we can spawn in any materials from that biome. been loving the game ever since

[trail pelican]

lololoolololol

[pearl cloak]

Oh that sounds like a good idea! Like I can only grind so much 😩

ESPECIALLY when I've been grinding for weeks for THREE other people who just don't have a lot of time to play

[celest fractal]

if im at the plains the last thing i wanna do is grind for wood in the meadows and black forest.

[plush umbra]

i'd say have me on the server to vacuum up resources in my free time but i haven't really had any of that lately

[past hill]

GUYS HOW TO COUNTER THE WOLVES

[celest fractal]

exactly. theres only so much time i have to game!

[nocturne wolf]

Hit them first, you should stagger them in one hit with a swamp weapon

[pearl cloak]

Oof that's complicated tbh

[plush umbra]

their attacks are fast, gotta be ready for the sound if you wanna parry them, otherwise hitting them as they run up to you works too

[pearl cloak]

The best way to deal with a wolf is to never let them see you in the first place, hope you one-shot with a bow. Second best is with bonemass

[celest fractal]

bow + distance XD

[past hill]

thERES TOoo many

[nocturne wolf]

Jumping backwards and hitting them on the way down always works for me, or you can jump forwards to kill them as fast as possible

[past hill]

Theres so many help

[plush umbra]

oh yea, bows
i forget because i don't use them

[celest fractal]

use an atgir heavy attack

lots of knockback plus its got a big AOE

[nocturne wolf]

Walk backwards or jump to avoid damage and try your best to take them out one at a time

[plush umbra]

atgeir my beloved

[past hill]

It said i was being hunted

[celest fractal]

RUN

[nocturne wolf]

No FIGHT

[pearl cloak]

Thinking about fighting wolves makes me want to play more, I love fighting them. Super well designed enemy

[plush umbra]

oooohh that's unlucky for your first mountain trip

[past hill]

Where

[celest fractal]

away XD

[nocturne wolf]

Kill them all!!!

[plush umbra]

that's an invasion you can get in mountains or plains (even outside of bases) after bonemass has been slain, pretty mean if you're not used to mountains yet

[past hill]

Im qutting this game

[celest fractal]

nothing i love more than playing valheim with a couple drinks. perfect evening

[past hill]

WHy they gotta hunt for mw

[celest fractal]

thats a mood lmao

[nocturne wolf]

You can change world modifiers to disable raids or reduce combat difficulty

[past hill]

Where

[nocturne wolf]

World select screen

[past hill]

What even is immersive how is that playable

[celest fractal]

speaking of. theres a great vr mod for valheim. i got chased by a troll and nearly shat myself XD

would recommend lmao

[nocturne wolf]

No map and no portals, and fire can burn builds

[merry pebble]

That is suposed to simulate reality 😄 there are no portals irl, you dont have basically a satelite imaging as a viking and if you keep fire unchecked it can cause something else catch fire

[celest fractal]

vikings had gps irl

thats how they sailed to england

[nocturne wolf]

Asatru were you there to prove they didn’t?

[past hill]

How do u cook?

[celest fractal]

exactly! XD

[past hill]

True

[merry pebble]

Were you there to prove they did? 😏

[past hill]

😭😭😭

[nocturne wolf]

The fire is on a separate line because fire burning builds is enabled
I’ll edit the message

[celest fractal]

need a mod that changes the queen into the actual queen of england

[merry pebble]

#mods-discussion <---- that way please

[cobalt canyon]

Too many you say?

#screenshots message

#screenshots message

[pearl cloak]

do you play on pc? if so i can hop on with you!

[celest fractal]

i dont think anyone in their right mind would ever make it XD

[nocturne wolf]

So then the seekers would be british people?

[celest fractal]

yeah XD

[pearl cloak]

LOL

i would never go back to the mistlands

[past hill]

Yes i do and i just got off, its 1 am for me and i have school 😭😭

[celest fractal]

keep the queens body from ingame but just model queen elizebeths head onto it XD

[nocturne wolf]

Why not? Everything there can be jumped over, it’s great!

[pearl cloak]

if you ever want someone to help you out im your girl 🥰

[past hill]

Can we add?

[pearl cloak]

oh, fair. until gjall is like wassup and i die (always happens, brrrr fireball ded ouchies)

[cobalt canyon]

Add celestial navigation.

[celest fractal]

the weather wouldnt need changing. im from england and can confirm everything is grey here 😭

[pearl cloak]

yes dm me!

[past hill]

Okay

[nocturne wolf]

Same here

[near furnace]

it's a typical afterworld type of weather

[cobalt canyon]

How do you find boss altars with no map?

[nocturne wolf]

Vegvisirs rotate your camera

[celest fractal]

i would rather live in the mistlands than england XD ngl

[trail pelican]

@past hill before you're farther along with better gear so wolves aren't nearly so threatening a good way to deal with wolves, like many enemies in general, is to get up on terrain they cannot reach, a big rock etc., make it if you need to--drop workbench and a wood floor off a tree or anything else off the ground for a platform to shoot from, generally only 'big' enemies (troll, abomination, etc.) can break trees & rocks

[cobalt canyon]

(Drag them into a stone golem)

[past hill]

Ooo tysm!!!!! But what if they climb up 😨

[past hill]

Can i add you?

[trail pelican]

they can't if it's a large/steep enough (lotta the big rocks that generate are), sure you can add me

[strange arrow]

having better food would help the most i think

[nocturne wolf]

What armor do you have, zy, and what level is it?

[trail pelican]

yeah IIRC the wolf raid specifically only triggers mountains and plains, so really until you're done with swamp ready to go to mountains, probs shouldn't be getting it as should stay out of plains & mountains, but you're right food & armor the most important/first upgrades IMO for survivability

[strange arrow]

if you have a good hp pool you can withstand a few attacks while you kill them

[nocturne wolf]

And health and stamina mead

[tacit crystal]

Pretty tough luck if Wolf raid began that early when you ventured to Mountains the first time

[trail pelican]

RIGHT--typical Valheim RNG @tacit crystal

just FEELS--know/pretty sure no actual programming--like it KNOWS how to mess with you BEST sometimes

[vocal rivet]

It's strange how that one doesn't require you to have killed a wolf first.

[trail pelican]

it IS strange

[vocal rivet]

The Troll. Surtlings and Bats one do.

[strange arrow]

that raid can still be less than comfortable to deal with in the next biome (plains) with all the top armor and food there, don't feel bad at all if it felt overwhelming at 1st mountain trip

[trail pelican]

oh yeah it's one of the tougher ones, the wolves are a very well designed enemy, soft (for its tier) but comes in fast, hits hard, often in groups, easily sets up chain staggers if you aren't ready and start thinning out the group and keep ahead of its attacks

[past hill]

ME

[knotty vector]

yes i normally always play games solo tbh

[pearl cloak]

most of my valheim playtime is solo just because it's so hard to get everybody together to play and im insatiable once i get obsessed again so i would say yes, just never hesitate to ask for help if you need it! i loveeee guiding new players so dm me if you wanna 🤍

[cobalt canyon]

Oh-

Bog witch just hit test branch

[warm fog]

Can anyone answer a few questions for me please?

1. what enemy drops blueberries (something dropped 3 bbs near my greydwarf farm)

2. do skelets bubble breaking give xp to caster?

3. do skelets doing dmg to buildings give xp?

[strange arrow]

1, none, they probably dropped from a barrel outside a ruin, 2, yes, 3 no

[knotty vector]

i guess ill buy it, and sure ill dm u if i need help tyty🫶

[strange arrow]

2 might be a no, not sure if it's only the caster bubble

(long ago testing memory xD)

[tacit crystal]

Bubble breaking gives xp to the caster and also to the target (if it's another player)

[cobalt canyon]

Asking about bubbles around your skeletons

[tacit crystal]

It is yes then.

[strange arrow]

thanks for clarifying

good to know the old grey matter hasn't completely failed xD

[pearl cloak]

speaking of caster xp, is there any good way to quickly level blood magic? i use summons and shields all the time and it's still such a low level

[tacit crystal]

I level it up with the help of Draugr spawners, calling max skeletts, using bubble every time one breaks and letting skeletts do all the work. Also raising some ground around the spawners so skeletts won't break them.

[strange arrow]

dig holes around some bow skele's outside a forest crypt, then have them shoot at yours (don't use bow skele's yourself), you can set it up as a kind a of trench

[pearl cloak]

oooo thank you

dumb question but is there any way to control which skeles spawn?

[trail pelican]

not dumb, salient

[strange arrow]

nope

[cobalt canyon]

Anybody ever tried to rig something up using archer skels & the trollstave?

[tacit crystal]

No unfortunately. @pearl cloak

[pearl cloak]

wait wdym?

[cobalt canyon]

Do you have Ashlands stuff?

[pearl cloak]

yeah

[vague halo]

Do you need to be near your eitr refinery for it to work? I want to create a build far away from my base for it

[pearl cloak]

why would you have to be near the refinery??

[merry pebble]

nope 🙂

[trail pelican]

you can dig a pit and then just cover the top with a metal grate

[odd helm]

Works like any other processing station, should produce refined eitr by itself

[strange arrow]

either letting the skelette's attack or be attacked both work, just depends if you want to be afk the whole time or have something to do (re-bubbling)

[vague halo]

Idk used to games like Minecraft where your machines can break if you are far away

I take long breaks from Valheim so I forget how it works

[pearl cloak]

ohh
sorry, i misunderstood the question, i should be quiet

[trail pelican]

terrain walls, metal build pieces, and black marble all immune to the refined eitr "radiation" damage

[odd helm]

You're good~

[pearl cloak]

i need to make a proper housing for my refineries, every time i go to make more i find my chest of mats broken 😂

[vague halo]

My current eitr refinery is literally on just a tower of black marble I built, I’m gonna break it and make it into an actual tower

[cobalt canyon]

Put mine in a pit

[strange arrow]

i found surrounding them in a metal cage is optimal, that way you can at least see what's going on still

[tacit crystal]

There are some building pieces that don't take damage from Eitr Refinery: Black marble, Iron and Copper pieces.

[cobalt canyon]

The troll summon staff is hostile to everything; including your own skeletons

[trail pelican]

i wonder if you'd get any XP making em fight each other

[cobalt canyon]

If you can rig something where all skel archers can hit it without getting hit, fool around at your base, let the xp flow

I think you can

[pearl cloak]

ohh gotcha
i didn't even think of that as a means of leveling

[pearl cloak]

great idea! i love iron bars

[strange arrow]

for what reason lol?

[tacit crystal]

Because you never have enough Iron in this game

[strange arrow]

oh true for sure

and the copper wall pieces are more expensive and grindy

[pearl cloak]

because they look nice
i love using them in my chimneys. for rp reasons: to keep out intruders; and for looks reasons, seeing the smoke come through the bars 🤍

i also use iron cages to protect my portals in the plains

[tacit crystal]

Copper is pretty plentiful when you get into Mistlands. And the Copper wall cost same amount of Copper as Iron cage wall (2x2) cost Iron.

[strange arrow]

i remember them being more expensive hm, maybe it was changed, and yes you can get copper later but chances are you already have a stockpile of iron

[tacit crystal]

I get pretty much Copper and Iron when I demolish those Black marble bridges and Dvergr towers.

[open canyon]

Does anyone know how to make Valheim run at more than 60fps or at least use 100% of my GPU? I have a Ryzen 5 5600x + 16gb RAM +3080ti AND THE GAME RUNS BETWEEN 25 TO 30FPS AND ONLY USES 30% OF THE GPU :,C

[strange arrow]

not a bad way of farming it but by then i like to have enough iron for my needs and cut down on boating xD

[cobalt canyon]

No idea what this is but it is pinned

#valheim-help message

[tacit crystal]

||Stone Portal|| helps a lot 🙃

[strange arrow]

now that we have those xD and the slider/s

[open canyon]

Xd I just came back from watching that video but it doesn't work I guess it's because it's from 3 years ago lol

[strange arrow]

guess i'm still kinda stuck on filling a longboat from the swamp

[frigid tide]

can you play with the new update on a 3rd party server host

[vocal rivet]

If you're able to enable beta mode on it.

[dense valley]

Hii

[hollow tulip]

do developers ever listen to community?

[strange arrow]

yes

[vocal rivet]

Regularly. A lot of the QOL in the new patch is based on community suggestions.

[merry pebble]

The current ptb is packed with stuff from player suggestions 🙂

[quartz bramble]

is there a command that finds the traders for you?

[vocal rivet]

Find with either Haldor, Hildir or whatever the new one is called.

[hollow tulip]

but its nothing about what 90% of the community compains about: too much fog content in game/general fog, seperate slot for armor, etc, its just minor updates

[vocal rivet]

Minor?! Lol.

[quartz bramble]

what do you mean

[vocal rivet]

And no, 90% of the community don't complain about those things.

[merry pebble]

90%? hardly, more like few of the same people just repeating the same stuff again and again 🙂

[hollow tulip]

the amount of different posts ive seen on reddit through the years are high

[merry pebble]

Oh, reddit, ofcourse...

[hollow tulip]

whats wrong with reddit? 8)

[merry pebble]

Whats right with it would be soooo much faster to list 🙂

[rich ice]

People are way more interested in posting complaints than positivity...

[hollow tulip]

you can never advance with something with only positivity m8

[valid python]

I see you did not know about world presets when are directly this, above and beyond. Don't feel too bad for not knowing about them

[valid python]

Of course you know that only a complete fool would pretend you need no positivity.

[rich ice]

I dunno, I've enjoyed the ride throughout.

[valid python]

As someone surely inteligent like you must know, a community also has to report what's right with a game

Some of the worst updates in gaming history are the direct result of a community communicating everything they dislike but none of what they DO like about a game

[hollow tulip]

come with an example

[valid python]

Eveolution of Combat, Runescape. The result of trying to fix all the problems with combat while inadvertently changing much of what WAS loved about it.

I'd also venture to say to a lesser extent the combat rework of Minecraft.

Its dangerous to only know what's disliked. Thats only half the picture. Knowing what to change.
A dev must also know what people like: What NOT to change!

[hollow tulip]

yea, but negative feedback weights more than positive

[vocal rivet]

It shouldn't.

[merry pebble]

Its not that it weights more, but people are usually just louder about it

[hollow tulip]

i see you have no knowledge about development 🤦 negative feedback tends to be more important because it highlights critical issues that need fixing to prevent failures or user dissatisfaction. Addressing these problems drives improvement and innovation, making the product or game better overall. Positive feedback is valuable too, but negative feedback is essential for identifying weaknesses and areas that need immediate attention.

[vocal rivet]

I see you love making assumptions about people you don't know.

[hollow tulip]

easy to make assumption when you think positive feedback weights more than negative

[vocal rivet]

I didn't say it did. Again, you're just making baseless assumptions.

[hollow tulip]

"yea, but negative feedback weights more than positive"
-🌺Derek🌺 — Today at 10:10 PM
It shouldn't.

[vocal rivet]

Yes, it should be equal.

Reading is fundamental.

[hollow tulip]

nope, shouldnt be equal. In game development, negative feedback has a more direct impact on improving the game, which is why it generally carries more weight than positive feedback.

Negative feedback drives fixes and improvements: It points out bugs, imbalances, or frustrating gameplay mechanics that need immediate attention to avoid alienating players or ruining the experience.

Positive feedback confirms what's working: While important, it mainly validates existing strengths, offering less insight into what needs to change for the game to evolve.
Sooo, relying too much on positive feedback can lead to complacency, while negative feedback pushes innovation and improvement. Reading is fundamental, and so is intelligence.

[trail pelican]

regardless, the game is clearly relatively successful, doing something MOSTLY right by at least many people's estimation

[royal tendon]

I will have to explore new unexplored swamps to find the witch, right?

[merry pebble]

Yep 🙂

[strange arrow]

a lot of valid points, and i did my share of bellyaching like a lot players but i try to be balanced about each issue, weighing both sides

i think negative points stress us out more generally and that may be why they seem to get more attention/seem louder

[hollow tulip]

ye, negative points tend to create more discussions, that again will reach out to more

[strange arrow]

it's fine as long as they are highlighted, but not whined on too much about imo

[light moat]

Caught my 1st 5-star fish!! Super stoked!

And found the ||bog witch|| what a successful Valheim day, and I just got started!

[merry pebble]

Niiiice 😄

[light moat]

Time to see what all this new stuff is all about 👀

[river pebble]

a

[vocal rivet]

b

[river pebble]

how is it going around those parts

[merry pebble]

More busy than usual cause of the ptb update 😄

[light moat]

“Can’t come in tomorrow, PTB just dropped”

[merry pebble]

Oh i am seriously considering that 😄

[orchid ruin]

anyone else have this Habibi person add us then block for his "new" server??

[vestal path]

Is it out for Xbox rn?

[nocturne wolf]

What? The bog witch public test?

[vestal path]

Yeah

[nocturne wolf]

You can enable it through the Xbox Insider Hub, if it hasn’t changed since I last used xbox.

[vestal path]

Oh ok thanks

[ruby spruce]

hey guys, i need to spawn a karve boat, whats the command for that?

[vocal rivet]

All items can be spawned with Spawn.

[ruby spruce]

so "spawn karve 1"?

[vocal rivet]

That'll work.

[ruby spruce]

i got the message "spawn is not valid in the current context"

[vocal rivet]

Do you have devcommands enabled?

[ruby spruce]

oh i forgot about that, srry

it worked, thx

[desert tangle]

when u farm does the timer for it to fully grow continue even if u logged out?

[past hill]

Why not just craft it?

[wooden tapir]

if you are on a personal server then no

if its dedicated and at least 1 person is on, then yes it will keep growing

[wanton dragon]

is there a road map for future updates

[vocal rivet]

Nope. But then there's only Deep North left so not really much point.

[wanton dragon]

ok

[royal nebula]

just got the game wanna play with someone hmu

[wooden tapir]

do ashlands and mistlands dvergrs drop the same trophy?

[warm fog]

How come the sop bubble doesn't protect me from lava? I'll be losing hp from burning but my bubble is still intact

[outer swallow]

check dm 🙂

[past hill]

Guys how do i get those weapon effects? how do i add them

[hollow anchor]

Yes. Although they shouldn't.

[rotund dust]

You kill eikthyr, grab a pickaxe, mine copper/tin, do skeleton caves, smelt, craft a bronze axe, cut birch wood, hunt some deer, and make some nails. You're welcome. None of this spawn me a carve nonsense.

[foggy glacier]

Yay, finally got my ||asksvin ||farm running. time to sleep.

[wooden tapir]

hmm, im actually trying to figure out what trophy im missing from my collection, its next to the Valkyrie trophy

or is there nothing under fader trophy?

[hollow anchor]

I think there is a gap between the Marksman and Valkyrie.

[wooden tapir]

ohh ok, interesting place for a gap

[balmy token]

is it in LFG chat only servers theres no 1-3 ppl groups pplaying this ? because i cant stand playing games like this with 10++ ppl its just annoying asf and its hard to comunicate over all..

[odd helm]

For the sake of other users, current PTB content is under spoiler policy, please feel free to discuss them in the appropiate PTB channels

[wooden tapir]

2 star askvin hunting, 6 nights no luck

if the ashlands has taught me anything, its that i in fact do not need to pick up everything on the ground

there is just too much stuff

[blissful stream]

we should... not nerf the feather cape jump height. that made it kinda fun

[wooden tapir]

an askvin just killed me through a rock

[atomic edge]

what is this new update? rog witch?

[cobalt canyon]

Optimised Greydwarf Eye.

[light moat]

“Small” update that brings a lot of new content to the game

#public-test-patchnotes message

(Get the public tester role to get access to that channel)

[atomic edge]

any early game stuff?

[cobalt canyon]

Define early

[atomic edge]

finished first boss and working on progress toward second

[light moat]

Yep!

Maybe not that early though, actually.

[atomic edge]

aww :(

[light moat]

Well, kind of actually 😅

[atomic edge]

oooo :D

[light drift]

The biggest content drop here is swamp

[cobalt canyon]

Nono

[light drift]

The trader gives you like 20 items that you can use in the new potion brews and to make feasts. Which sounds like it like cake in minecraft. Lay it on a table and eat until it's gone. And the buffs last longer

[cobalt canyon]

Optimised Eye.

[wooden tapir]

what am i supposed to do with all these askvin bladders and morgen hearts?

[light drift]

Drink the bladder

[wooden tapir]

do mobs become weaker when you tame them?

[iron gazelle]

a question about wards..

i logged on, to find 1 chest destroyed - base is kinda raidproof - but doors are open.

are there clientside mods that allows players to see what's in chests, and then destroy them even though it's protected?

content of said chest was gold, rubies, amber, pearls, fishing stuff - all is gone besides the amber and pearls. = all the most valuable.

[merry pebble]

Wards only prevent interaction with certain pieces, not their destruction 🙂

[iron gazelle]

2500 hours into the game... several servers - i guess i'm just lucky this never happened before - i didn't know wards were useless 🙂

[rain flare]

With no spoilers for anything, can I just say how amazing you guys are for making this FANTASTIC game?
Seriously, this new update and the ones before it are just wonderful additions to an already amazing game 🥰

Loving every minute I get to play it!

[tacit crystal]

You can add new weapon effects currently only in weapons in Ashlands, although you can craft some special weapons with elemental damage/effects before that.

[opal prairie]

Noon gjall.

[limpid abyss]

The Bog Witch update is already in game or do I have to do something to have this?

[nocturne wolf]

You can join the public test to help find bugs and balance issues, but by default you're still on the ashlands version.

[limpid abyss]

Yh but can I join with my actual world save? Or it does not work like that

[nocturne wolf]

You can use old saves, but it's reccomended to make backups first

Go to id:customize to enable the public test channels, it's best to talk about the new content there, and you can submit feedback too

[ruby spruce]

i will need to do this everytime i log out my game and always lose everything that is in my boat

[rain flare]

That is a nasty bug

[past hill]

How do i do that?

[rain flare]

Gems

Also only found in the Ashlands

[hybrid isle]

Is it for all ashlands weapons?

[nocturne wolf]

All flametal weapons

[merry pebble]

Yep, exept staves

[opal prairie]

Yes, for all the melee weapons and bows you can craft yourself.

[tacit crystal]

Like @rain flare said, gems. But you don't need to worry about that before Ashlands.

[rain flare]

Don’t listen to the punchy boy
You use gems to make several OP magic staves - you just can’t upgrade the existing magic sticks

[opal prairie]

Ah but that isn't adding new weapon effects to existing weapons.

[royal tendon]

Bruh valheim with vulkan stopped working for me a couple of days ago, still doesnt open. Game crashes everytime. Any fixes?

[tacit crystal]

First, do you use mods? Second, are you on Public Test beta while using mods?

[royal tendon]

Not using mods or the beta

[opal prairie]

https://www.reddit.com/r/valheim/comments/uq9b8x/my_valheim_is_crashing_fix_for_crash_guide/

[merry pebble]

Yes, you use them for staves, but you dont give them special effects their base form doesent have 😉

[torn sorrel]

me and my friend took on the second boss and it was way more tuff then it needed to be. we got a attacked my a 1 star troll while fighting it

[royal tendon]

Ive been looking through the guide, didnt see anything that helped really. The first crash occurred while i was just out exploring, straight out of the game, after that i havent been able to open with vulkan

Also had a look at my crash log, i have no idea what to look for there though

[glossy flame]

When we get buyable DLC's or buyable items in marketplace?

[echo plaza]

I'd say that is not the intention of the developers so that would mean never.

[stiff ibex]

what's the chance of a wolf head dropping?

[opal prairie]

10%

[stiff ibex]

so if i kill 10 of 'em i should have 100%

if my math is mathing

[opal prairie]

Your math isn't mathing.
Each wolf has 10% but it doesn't add up.
Statistically you should have 1 but you could have 10 or 0.

[stiff ibex]

awh man

the mountain i have been on theres no wolves spawning in there

[opal prairie]

That is a pita.

[stiff ibex]

okay greydwarf

ty

[opal prairie]

Don't go trolling ;p

[stiff ibex]

i want to get rid of my troll cape tbh

[smoky quarry]

when you get the wolves event

[opal prairie]

I can understand that, sail forth and find another mountain.

[smoky quarry]

fill that fridge with doggo bacon

[opal prairie]

Skewer them I say!

[smoky quarry]

i likes it raw and wiggly

[glossy flame]

create wolf trap
by placing sheeps and traps

[past hill]

WHat is one of the best food combos to get highest stamina possible or balanced

[foggy glacier]

I used to use two stam one hp food before I got into magic

Whatbiome are youin?

[past hill]

im so lost about foods

im just curious what is the best combo to get max stamina or health

[foggy glacier]

Did you just start out? Have you beaten any bosses?

The foods keep getting better as you progress

[merry pebble]

Do you mean in the game or in certain biome?

[past hill]

in game!

[past hill]

i did'

[foggy glacier]

Did you defeat Eikthyr yet?

[past hill]

ofc.

[foggy glacier]

What’s level is your cauldron?

[merry pebble]

For the most stamina you can get in the game you need Roasted crust pie, Scorching medley and Spicy marmalade all of which are from ashlands, the current latest biome

[nocturne wolf]

Have you got turnips yet?

[past hill]

yes

[foggy glacier]

Onions?

[past hill]

oo Tysm for telling, what about health?

[foggy glacier]

Health would be piquant pie

[merry pebble]

That would be Piquant pie, Mashed meat and Fiery svinstew

[stiff ibex]

finally got one

[strange arrow]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/18CIv39YFMqIhB8horGHsp2OrTB4e5zcscHPotUR8MbU/ Scarlet's spreadsheet does a great job of food comparisons

[noble spindle]

looking for a server to play on my friends cant play tonight, we just made it to swamp

[nocturne wolf]

#1024264966712340510

[trail pelican]

every biome has usually a couple foods for health & stamina, and later Eitr (the mana of the game used to cast spells), plus sometimes a few extras (like for example early, once you get honey and boar meat, you can make boar jerky which gives an equal amount of health & stamina), the best foods you don't consume directly from a biome gathered ingredient (like when you first start, all that's available to you, just cooking meat to eat directly and foraging for berries and mushrooms) you take the ingredients to the cauldron and mix them to make better food--for example the deer stew, IIRC the 'best' health you'd have access to with resource available in black forest and before (only) is 1 carrot, 1 cooked deer meat, and 1 blueberry @past hill

[azure yacht]

TIL of something that seems very obvious in hindsight: find command can help you find your ships in case you forgot where you parked them

[trail pelican]

wow @azure yacht and now I have SO many boats to find

[azure yacht]

Re-entering an old world and forgetting where my longship was made me think of "they should definitely add some way to find the ship, something like a find comma- OH WAIT"

[rain flare]

I bought a stick a stuck a gem on it
Sounds like a weapon upgrade to me 😂
In all seriousness, yeah dumb dumb Sildar strikes again 🤭

[rain flare]

🙃

[opal prairie]

Lol I hope you put the gem on the not pointy end of the stick.

[rain flare]

Weeeeeell, the pointy end has a big spiral on it and spits out prickly vines.
I guess that counts as the pointy end? 😄

[merry pebble]

it counts as the dangerous end 😄

[opal prairie]

Keep pointing that towards the enemies.

[past hill]

i see i see

Thanks for all the info@trail pelican

Guys any idea why i cant repair my feather cape? me and my friends are trolling we are everything and i just cant repair it

[nocturne wolf]

It's crafted at a galdr table

[past hill]

I see

[glass parrot]

How much copper should I gather from the Black Forest? I don’t ever really know how much is a good amount

[past hill]

whatever u need to craft

[nocturne wolf]

Just mine one deposit for now, and mine another when you need more

[merry pebble]

if you make only stuff you actually need 1-2 deposits should be enough to the endgame 🙂

[glass parrot]

Is bronze armor necessary? Would you say?

[nocturne wolf]

Troll armor is generally better. The defence difference is very small (6) but it won't slow you down.

[merry pebble]

i usually go with troll armor, the armor difference is negligable imo and you dont have a movement penalty

But i must say that the bronze armor is quite pretty 🙂

[glass parrot]

Okay I’ll just make bronze tools for now then. I gotta go through the dungeons though for the cores 😔. Wish me luck

[glass parrot]

Yeah, I’ve seen it. It looks nice

[nocturne wolf]

I'd only consider bronze armor in a large (4+ players) multiplayer group so you don't have to kill so many trolls, it would just take too long to find them all.

[fair cairn]

if you want bronze armor you need quite a bit, if your only going for some bronze weapons you dont need that much

wellp that was late

[rotund parrot]

Most of the bronze will be used for the essentials, fermenters, cultivator and the bronze axe so you can unlock much better food, bow, portals and allow you to progress through the game

[trail pelican]

forge > bronze buckler (or axe if you wanna skip using trolls) > bronze axe > cultivator > fermenter (although the PTB changes will add another step in this chain somewhere near the end); cultivator might move up in priority depending upon when you find carrot seeds relative to copper and tin

oh and i forgot the 80 nails for a karve

that's like 66 copper total, according to wiki on default setting average copper vein yields 117 copper ore

[gray sand]

Coolest hat in the game though.

[plush umbra]

pointy hat

[frozen fable]

Also if you make the copper pickaxe it helps your mining go faster, but I would only do the pickaxe after bronze axe, cultivator and fermenter in that order

[pearl cloak]

bronze armor is a PAIN to make, i prefer fighting trolls
anyone else absolutely dread the bronze age?? 😭

[gray sand]

🤷‍♂️ Bronze age is chill.

Copper mining is dual-purpose.
You get copper, and you stockpile stone for when you start building with that.

[queen sandal]

Anyone know what the time frame is looking like for the Bog Witch update to make it to the default version?

[plush umbra]

i've literally never made bronze armor (except that one time i made it for fashion reasons)

[gray sand]

Me with iron armor.

[light moat]

I only make bronze armor, never troll haha (except for fashion)

[frozen fable]

I usually kill trolls since they are not that hard to find, but also 5 bronze is not that hard to mine and smelt

[plush umbra]

me with iron too since after the first playthrough.
buddy i was playing with made me afraid of bonemass, so i budged and spent some iron on level 1 armor...so not worth it

[gray sand]

Amount of trolls available is rng.

In my world they are very scarce on the starting continent.

[pearl cloak]

how many players have you had to make full bronze gear for on your own?

[plush umbra]

...are they not helping?

[gray sand]

I make my armor for me?

[pearl cloak]

unavailable, and we specialize
e.g. one of us is a cook, i take care of crafting and leading to progress

[gray sand]

Iron Armor? You mean... Padded Armor? 😛

[pearl cloak]

i do everything basically except for cooking and menial tasks

[pearl cloak]

so can you see why i hate the bronze age now lol

[gray sand]

Reason #5467 to not do multiplayer 🙂

[pearl cloak]

bro why? i love it

[gray sand]

You literally just used the word "hate" and now you say you love it...

Hmmmmm...

[pearl cloak]

dude
i said i hated the BRONZE AGE

[plush umbra]

we actually did try to sequence break and make padded armor
that's how i learned about the artisan table....after we had a good stockpile of flax.

[pearl cloak]

i wish you could sequence break for padded 😭

no but seriously ive basically played the game for 3 other people, they are so busy that they can only help with major progression (like the queen fight) and they aren't good at the combat so they prefer to stick around the base and enjoy the things ive built for them... be happier sevrahn

[gray sand]

The fuck? Who said I am not happy?

[frozen fable]

You always need iron. I make the iron armor but also what is most important in any age except bronze is a good shield and it pays to upgrade the shield so you can tank boss hits and 1-3 star mobs attacks

[pearl cloak]

im wondering that too because i said be happier with an -er

[plush umbra]

hmmm, is changing the world modifiers to up the resource yield an option?
or is that already done and it isn't enough to mitigate the grind?

[gray sand]

You always need iron.

The universal truth of Valheim.

[pearl cloak]

yep i had to change world modifiers to make it bearable but now i love it

[frozen fable]

Also some people may not know this but you can parry the troll attacks with the bronze atgeir

[gray sand]

Anyone who has read the blocking sheet knows that 😉

[plush umbra]

bless flametal for allowing them to make iron(-ish) coloured models without feeling the need to make it cost iron

[frozen fable]

If you craft the atgeir you can walk into the troll caves and get your armor

[gray sand]

You need 71 HP with 0 skill to do the parry.

[pearl cloak]

i never experimented with weapons because i try to get through the bronze age asap so i can suffer in the swamps

[plush umbra]

oh gosh swamps must be even worse if you're making equipment for a whole group, at least the part where the demand for iron never stops

[gray sand]

Dropping to 47 HP at 100 skill.

[frozen fable]

I usually make the axe and sword and the finewood bow

[gray sand]

Axes, my beloved.

And after the slap in the face that was Mistlands Axe, omg... the validation of Berserkir.

[plush umbra]

i really hope they'll one day balance DoT damage numbers on weapons the way DoT damage numbers on weapons should be balanced.

[gray sand]

Berserkir + Ask Set + Ash Cape + HSS foods = 💛

[pearl cloak]

surprisingly, the swamp is easier for me. i do get everyone out there to help out as much as possible and i can set someone up doing coal and smelting to speed things up

even with all 4 of us helping with bronze it takes FOREVER, like mutliple days where they are unavailable so then i end up having to still make all the gear

im praying the devs revisit the bronze age 🥰 not that it's BAD i would just like to see more variety at least

[gray sand]

X for Doubt

[plush umbra]

-# i certainly wouldn't mind the bronze crafting outcome to be more than a third of the metal you put in

[pearl cloak]

although
if anyone could give ideas to make the bronze age better for me im open to them

[gray sand]

Well, you already said no to the "don't do 4 people's worth of work by yourself" option so I got nothing.

[pearl cloak]

• i hate carts (FOR COPPPER) it takes forever to run all that distance and my cart flew away once and then my game crashed LMAO

[frozen fable]

Build your base close to the mining area, that is usually the first thing I do

[gray sand]

Shipping speeds things up more than carting.

[pearl cloak]

i ship tin

[gray sand]

Also, are you carting back the stone and copper?

[pearl cloak]

copper
not stone, i drop that shit

[gray sand]

K. Because I was going to say, just portal the stone and leave a "Copper Chest" behind to take it all at once.

[plush umbra]

wouldn't it work to mine some copper, cart it downhill to shore, grab some tin there while you're at it and then ship the copper home?

[frozen fable]

If you build a base inside a black forest that usually goes well since you can easily mine, smelt and come back to the forest for berries and core wood as you need it

[gray sand]

Keep stone. Will need en masse for building literally 1 biome later.

Part of why bronze age is fine. Copper mining is dual purpose.

Half right-now purpose and half future-investment purpose.

[pearl cloak]

in the early game i always get SWAMPED by enemies in the black forest hahah so i dont normally make a full base there, just an outpost for repairing if nothing else

[gray sand]

Well... more 30/70, but yeah.

[pearl cloak]

infinite build

[gray sand]

?

[pearl cloak]

i use "building does not require resources"

[gray sand]

So... zero-cost buildings is fine, but zero-cost equipment is where you draw the line?

[pearl cloak]

do you want to help me or judge how i play

[gray sand]

You're misinterpreting "attempting to understand" (which is key to providing valid, accurate help) with "judge."

[pearl cloak]

maybe rephrase it in a nicer way then, because that sentence was severely pointed and judging

[gray sand]

🙄

[pearl cloak]

ugh
anyways sorry guys

[gray sand]

Maybe don't assume the worst in people?
Either way, I'm out.

[pearl cloak]

i will definitely see what i can do, any suggestions to keep the constant line of greydwarves at bay?

[frozen fable]

Well that took an unexpected turn with the hammer mode building lol

Yeah, kill them, usually works out well you get wood, stone, and grey dwarf eyes

[pearl cloak]

i hate hate hate hate grinding just to build, im always like 10% through a build and run out of resources. i have better ways to use my time

[pearl cloak]

great that's unhelpful

[plush umbra]

sorta same, but my solution is to just over-over-over-compensate on materials before i even start building

[pearl cloak]

guess ill just figure something out, thank you for the help 🥰

[plush umbra]

i started saving up stone for hvassfjallr the moment i got the idea for it, which was about the first time i ever killed the elder.
and i only started building it years later

[pearl cloak]

yeah and i just don't enjoy that part of the game
i dont know why people judge the way others play the game they bought lol

infinite building is so fun, i would not have touched 99% of the building options, because for me, resources are for equipment. and for rare resources like black cores, i tally up how many and then collect that many and obliterate them 🤷‍♀️ resource deficit, basically like resource financing lol

also ^^ i did bump the resource gain to 1.5x to help with grinding for 4 people haha didn't do it until the mistlands though lmaooo

[trail pelican]

you turn up resource drop modifier (EDIT: oh you said you did lol, well you could try even higher maybe if still too grindy)? you can resources a lot faster that way, and save (for other uses) with the no build costs of course

[golden rover]

make a base under the elder spawn

[pearl cloak]

you know what, i go to the bonemass swamp for more resources. is it the same for where the elder spawns? like should i be making a base by the elder and refining ore there?

[golden rover]

oh im just saying have your base be under elder spawn is neat since enemies cant reach you there

[trail pelican]

elder is just particularly useful because it's a wide rectangular indestructible platform you can dig under and use as a sort of 'roof' of sorts

[golden rover]

if you build it right

[cobalt canyon]

And don't fight Elder on it after...

[pearl cloak]

ik, im just on the fence about building under stuff
it's a great idea though!! might try next time

[golden rover]

ah, gotcha

[pearl cloak]

i try to deal with terrain as little as possible 😭 but i really want to try my hand at a basement....... hmmm

[golden rover]

Ah, I gotcha.

[trail pelican]

you can also just use the hoe and stone to raise earth a few clicks then level out a plateau on that level, and no mobs will be able to reach you/your base

or dig a trench around the whole thing

[golden rover]

Met some wizards who did that.

[pearl cloak]

i do trenches! love trenches

[trail pelican]

yeah a small one just out in the world can be an effective combat measure, same idea for bases just expanded area

[pearl cloak]

trench -> fence -> raised ground is perfect, though i normally just stop after the trench because stone requirement BUT i have inf build now so i can experiment!!! omg im so excited

[desert tangle]

ur better off building a base there and smelting if u know ur gna spend alot of time in that area

i wish there was a trick to get the cart into the karve and not have it sink when ur sailing :(

[merry pebble]

When you want to cheat the system you pay the price 😄 (i never really tried that so i have no idea how hard it is)

[tacit crystal]

Break the cart, when it has stuff inside it leaves boxes that can be moved in Karve which don't add weight to the Karve

[pearl cloak]

that's genius tbh

i need to try that

[cobalt canyon]

my first base I usually just take over whatever abandoned meadows shack I can find near Black forest

[golden rover]

Did not know that.

I use the same character when loading into new worlds.

I'm like an extradimensional invader, showing up in the meadows in flametal gear.

[cobalt canyon]

My last starting island didn't give me any crypts, so I popped into a frost cave to get the speedy armor & go somewhere else more quickly

(Only really feasible with 3x resources btw)

[pearl cloak]

i love that

[cobalt canyon]

Hard combat though, be careful & use spears, you can handle Ulv's & cultists....to a degree

(ahem #screenshots message)

[pearl cloak]

i've been trying to think of ways to sequence break as early as possible, is there a guide or anything i could look at for that? e.g. getting mountains stuff while you're in the meadows
loved sequence breaking in metroid

[cobalt canyon]

this.

Fenring armor only takes wb level 2 to craft

[pearl cloak]

like
starting in the meadows, what would it require to get something from the ashlands and is it worth it

i think that's impossible since you need the boat right?

[cobalt canyon]

Need is....hmm

[pearl cloak]

oh?

[cobalt canyon]

Your boat doesn't immediately break

[pearl cloak]

HAHAHA yes

sorry got excited

[cobalt canyon]

Climb the pillars as best you can

[pearl cloak]

so... build workshops, repair, keep going, build another, repair?

but then voltures...... ughh

[cobalt canyon]

Workbenches might be hard to place there

The spires aren't big on flat surfaces

Anyways, assuming you touch down, the only thing you can really use is flaming cores - those are inside the forts

[tacit crystal]

Also Putrid Holes.

[desert tangle]

how long until the boxes despawns?

[cobalt canyon]

^

That too, probably safer

[azure yacht]

They don't

[tacit crystal]

At least if you can handle one possible inhabitant inside.

[cobalt canyon]

Really would do this with fenring armor btw

Nip in, grab thing, out

Anyways, cores + grausten = stone portals

[pearl cloak]

OOOOOO sick

thank you 😍

[cobalt canyon]

(Don't thank me until you tally how many deaths this is)

[pearl cloak]

i could do this with every biome, what about mistlands? if you wanna brainstorm

[pearl cloak]

tbh.. im not doing it 😂😂
you couldnt pay me!

[cobalt canyon]

The problem is the Moder progression block

[pearl cloak]

i wonder: what's the fastest you can get magic?

[tacit crystal]

Zoom in and you are able to see... At least something.

[pearl cloak]

all my homies hate moder for cockblocking

[pearl cloak]

oh yeah, i havent been in there without a wisplight, was too scared (originally played pre-mistlands, then played post-ashlands recently)
how bad IS the visibility? (without wisp ofc)

[cobalt canyon]

Without the blast furnace you get no black metal, no eitr refiner, no flamemetal

[tacit crystal]

It is limited but you are able to see clearer when you keep moving, if you stop the mist will block your vision

If you keep your 3rd person zoomed in as much as possible that is

[cobalt canyon]

Even the sap extractor takes black metal

[pearl cloak]

definitely seems tough. i guess you could MAYBE get seeker meat to help out for earlier? soft tissue can be found in dvergr outposts but getting refined eitr is definitely not possible without blackmetal as you said!

[tacit crystal]

You are able to craft Black Forge without defeating Moder.

And those weapons that don't require Black Metal or Eitr.

[cobalt canyon]

Oh just hol up a minute

Now if that's the case

[pearl cloak]

is there a way to get yggdrasil wood and black marble without having blackmetal tools?

[cobalt canyon]

Let a seeker soldier loose on a dverger tower

[tacit crystal]

Stonecutter and demolish Black Marble buildings

[pearl cloak]

perfect!

[nocturne wolf]

Make a seeker soldier chop the trees

[tacit crystal]

Seeker Soldier can cut Yggdrasil wood

[pearl cloak]

now... black cores 😭
just a suicide run

[cobalt canyon]

Tricky, but not restricted

[tacit crystal]

Also some Dvergr ruins stairs are made of Yggdrasil wood

[pearl cloak]

guys you can make a black forge with plains gear LMAO
that is wild, i love this game

[cobalt canyon]

If you have the black forge you can make carapace arrows (charred arrows?)

[tacit crystal]

Ooze bombs are great for Infested mines

[cobalt canyon]

Down Moder that much faster

[pearl cloak]

NO KIDDING!! might have to try 😭

[nocturne wolf]

You're supposed to use plains gear to get it, you need it for anything better.

[tacit crystal]

I did that once and fought Moder with Krom sword

[pearl cloak]

now we just have to figure out what you could viably make with a black forge

[pearl cloak]

that is badass

[cobalt canyon]

Has anyone tried to take a catapult to Moder?

[tacit crystal]

Anything that don't require Black metal or Eitr, so Krom, Carapace spear, Arbalest at least

Plus arrows and bolts

[cobalt canyon]

suppose that's flamemetal ain't it...

[pearl cloak]

omg i would love to do a crossbow run. arbalest in plains? but the question is: do i want to suffer

i guess with portals it cant be too bad right? unless it breaks and it resets your entire progress

[cobalt canyon]

I died 3 times getting my first fenring armor (in the meadows - mountains jump). worth it.

[tacit crystal]

Arbalest was quite fun when raiding Fuling villages, also it is good for hunting Loxen

[glass parrot]

I saw it late too 😂

[azure yacht]

I did this.

I killed Yagluth with ember staff and krom

[pearl cloak]

with plains, i kinda dont care. what about mountain? i see ya'll mentioned fenring armor, anything else viable for meadows-mountain?

i know there's tedious ways to get silver but that's probably swamp-mtn

[cobalt canyon]

Obsidian isn't minable - but you can find it in crates

[pearl cloak]

gonna look up recipes now

[cobalt canyon]

Onion seeds of course

Though without the cauldron upgrades (turnips, carrots, silver), that's not quite as good

[gray sand]

Obsidian is 100% mineable, what???

[tacit crystal]

With Iron pick yes, which you can't have yet during Meadows.

[gray sand]

Oh, this is about skipping.

My bad.

[plain cape]

bruh I saved my game and restarted the game and it did t save LIKE BRUHHH

[ashen latch]

Not sure if anyone else answered, but in the past it's been typically about 2 weeks between a public test update and the base game update. That's just an estimate from my own observations.

[trail pelican]

yea the PTB release means "it's done, we just need y'all to try to break it, so we can fix the most common/likely breakingpoints while slapping a coat of polish on it (last minute balance tweaks based upon feedback, not per se bugfixing), and push it out the door"--i.e. it's MOSTLY done and ready, by the time we the general public even hear about it much less have access to any version of it
my 'vibes' at least

[pearl cloak]

do the devs have in-house playtesters? (i assume yes)

The game developers at Steam have a very strict focus on playtesting during EVERY stage of development, im curious to know how the valheim dev team operates 🤍

[trail pelican]

I THINK they playtest themselves, maybe they hire some designated inside playetesters

but I've heard in the dev talks them talking about playtesting themselves seemingly

[pearl cloak]

interesting!

[queen sandal]

Alright, thanks!

[pearl cloak]

Smiffe is QA for sure, unsure of the rest of the team. I doubt they'd all be in the discord server (unless that's deemed necessary)

been trying to develop a game for a while so im very interested in practical examples, especially smaller-scale

[vocal rivet]

The entire team are in Discord, yes.

[pearl cloak]

Good to know! Thanks :)

@pulsar crane why are you trapping necks sir

also i fuckin love skeletons in valheim they are so funny and spooky
can i get a

[pulsar crane]

well... arent they good pets?
Imagine waking up and the first thing u see is a 3x3 room with 3 necks and 2 greydwarfs. Dont worry tho, they can manage thier space with no issues

i want to add the skellies but they will attack the neckes, i might have to move them in a seperate room

and make a museum with every type of mob 😂

[pearl cloak]

necks are bad pets they bite :(

you can't fully tame them right? or am i dum

[tacit crystal]

You can't

[pulsar crane]

but dogs may bite as well as soon as u take them,, they just need some time to get comfy with the einvironment (stone room)

[nocturne wolf]

You can't tame them at all

[pearl cloak]

(stone room) LMAO

[pulsar crane]

yeah no, i just politely kidnapped them

😂 dont worry, theyre happy tho!

[pearl cloak]

you should put a neck trophy in there to make sure they remember who's boss

i wanna make a room with like 20 necks now

[pulsar crane]

and when i come home after a long day in the ashlands killing their evolution creature (askvin) they shake their tail and bite the walls to remind me they love me

[pearl cloak]

i cant imagine the noise 😂

[pulsar crane]

trueeeeeeeeeeeee 😂

[pulsar crane]

yeah every second im in base

im still in the process of breaking the pillar btw, with the ram

[pearl cloak]

that sounds..... not super exciting

[pulsar crane]

yeah... i put the ram up, destroy some walls and then it all falls down. I break the ram (3000 durablity) then go up and the cycles repeats

[pearl cloak]

omg you can make an asksvin skeleton

[tacit crystal]

Yeah I did that too. It took some time but now I have a nice indestructable Ashlands base.

[pearl cloak]

It can be mounted like a saddle or a chair
WHAT

[pulsar crane]

yeah thats so worth it, especially the fact that no enemy can destroy it

thx again for the tip

[pulsar crane]

yup, the askvin skelly doesnt move tho 😭

[pearl cloak]

what kinda nonsense and shenanigans have i been missing out on, i wanna make something completely wild and then act like everything is normal when my friends join

i was spawning runestones with weird names while we were trying to sail to moder and it was priceless, they had no idea what was going on

[pulsar crane]

hahahhahaa 😂
if with ur friends u have separate rooms then u should sneak a neck in everyone's room

[pearl cloak]

also i need to learn innocent and subtle dev commands to mess with them more, any ideas?

[pulsar crane]

i wouldnt know that because i never use the dev commands ):

[pearl cloak]

my gf and i have a big bed and the 2 others have tiny peasant beds on either side hahaha

[pulsar crane]

fair enough 😂 then add a bonemaw trohpy on the wall above the bed

[pearl cloak]

oof
havent killed one yet but that's a great idea

[pulsar crane]

or a sea serpent trophy if u are not in the asslands yet

[pearl cloak]

wait i could put bonemass's stinky ass head over my friend's bed to watch him sleep 😂

[pulsar crane]

trueee, ahhaha,, but u would have to defeat the handsome man again

[pearl cloak]

my gf got so mad when i put it up in the longhouse and it covered the doors too much so she kept picking it up LMAO
im a prankster, im loki fr

[pulsar crane]

😂

[pearl cloak]

i like messing with people subtly to the point that they barely know it. very very harmless stuff

my friend didn't know anything about the mountains and i put a single piece of raw wolf meat in his chest. he was so confused he was like "why is this here" i said "it's a treat"

[tacit crystal]

I put item stand and Troll trophy on friends bed so everytime they slept the Troll head was on their heads place

[pulsar crane]

woooooo

u should make an entire pillar with trolls trophies (also to remind urself of how mercilessly u killed one when u panicked

[pearl cloak]

it's so messed up that you can eat the wolves i would never 😭

didn't stop me though

[nocturne wolf]

Not even as a wolf meat skewer? 😋
They wanted to eat you first, anyway.

[pulsar crane]

if u eat the tamed wolves they are even tastier!

[pearl cloak]

fair!
im just eating them back. based.

[pearl cloak]

don't talk to me 😭😭😭 (jk)

[pulsar crane]

😂

[pearl cloak]

nah but i got bored of taming a wolf and just killed it. i have not a patient cell in my body

[nocturne wolf]

If you get hunted you can easily gather all the wolf pelt you need without taming any.

[tacit crystal]

Once the Ashlands came and I made some new decorations (like the new beds) on our groups world I put one passed out 'friend' with a tankard between our beds (aka 3 Charred trophies and tankard on item stands)

[pearl cloak]

cute 🥰

[tacit crystal]

Yeah but I'm always completionist and want to have those 2 Star wolves in my base.

[gray sand]

Wolves are good for carpet and meats.

[pearl cloak]

i was leading like 3 fuling berserkers into the mountains to split them all up (divide and conquer) and got the "you are being hunted" event. helped a lot lol

i love the mountains 🥰 helps me when i pull too many fulings, looks pretty, werewolves are cute... nothing to complain about hehe

[tacit crystal]

In that moment the rng had good timing.

[pearl cloak]

YES

also full camp pulls 💀 a mistake only made once

[tacit crystal]

You can also lead them to tar pits, Growths will attack anything in Plains.

[gray sand]

Eh, once you get Bonemass power and into the Blackmetal weapons you start doing full pulls to speed things up.

[pearl cloak]

i am terrified of growths

my gf doesnt understand aggro and pulling (still kinda new to multiplayer games) and she has gotten us killed once by aggoing a camp full of fulings. just littered with all the good stuff, starred dudes with swords, spear throwers, shamans, starred berserkers

we both ended up dying and she died like 3 times on the way back :(

[keen cliff]

growths ARE terrifying

i was mounted on a lox, leading a group of tamed wolves for giggles. got too close to a tarpit and barely escaped with my life

[tacit crystal]

Huntsman bow and Fire arrows do wonders against them.

[frozen fable]

Move sideways instead of in a straight line when facing growths

[tacit crystal]

Then BONK

[gray sand]

Interesting way to spell Frost Arrows.

[keen cliff]

now i like to smash them with demolisher. but that point in time it was crazy. heh

[gray sand]

If you can dodge a tar, you can dodge a ball!

[tacit crystal]

They are resistant against Frost and weak against Fire

[gray sand]

Resist is half damage iirc.

Fire Arrow is 11 P, 22 Fr for damage
Frost being 26 P, 52 Ft

Resist Pierce and Frost, so both P values get halved.

Fire: 5.5 P, 22 Fr
Frost: 13 P, 26 Ft

Weakness is 1.5x

Fire: 5.5 P, 33 Fr
Frost: 13 P, 26 Ft

33+5.5 = 38.5
13+26 = 39

Frost Arrows win 👀

++"slow" effect that cannot be mathematically accounted for.

[trail pelican]

however if they COULD, it'd be all upside, obvis

in short, Frost comes in as one of the best damage types all else equal once again

[gray sand]

Frost is uncontested the best arrow in the game.

And it's sad that Ashlands did nothing to change that.

Biome 4 arrow still best-in-slot all the way up in Biome 7.

[tacit crystal]

True, Frost arrows are good. Still, by using Fire arrows I save Frost arrows to other targets.

[keen cliff]

harvesting frost glands is annoying though

charred bones are plentify for arrows/bolts once you're post-Ashlands at least

or carapace

[gray sand]

Silver should have the inverse damage spread and be more like Frost tbh.

Frost being 26 Pierce with 52 Frost is part of what makes it great.

Silver, which should specialize against undead and such, is 52 Pierce, 20 Spirit...
Like... why? Why is not the other way around?

Flip it to 20 P, 52 Spirit and now Silver Arrows are worth making.

[trail pelican]

sadly, kills me to betray frost, to admit this is the truth

[gray sand]

Frost would still be overall king.
But Silver would have an actual place in the heirarchy.

[tacit crystal]

Silver arrows are quite good in Ashlands, that change would make them even better.

[gray sand]

?

You and math have different definitions of "quite good" 🤷‍♂️

[rotund parrot]

Problems with elemental arrows is the elemental damage doesn't stack so you waste a lot of damage, it gets worst as you increase your bow level. I just stick to any normal arrows and just spam them, much more efficient and easy to make.

[tacit crystal]

Combine them with Spinesnap. Charred are weak against Spirit.

[trail pelican]

they could be more focused on the specialty tho, though I don't doubt silver arrows are good--I'm allergic to using metal on disposable items like arrows, so I stick with needle (or wood when i'm REALLY being cheap), and it's been more than sufficient

[gray sand]

Spirit stacks (thankfully), which is why Silved Sword is BiS vs. Yagluth.

[trail pelican]

some elemental damage DOES stack tho i thought?

[tacit crystal]

Silver Sword fares well also in Ashlands.

[trail pelican]

like fire--poison, no, at least not the same

[gray sand]

I think fire does to a point?

[tacit crystal]

Fire does stack.

[gray sand]

Poison sucks. Yes.

Reason the Mistlands is the one biome I stop being an Axe man. 😦

[gray sand]

At that point you have Mistwalker though.

[tacit crystal]

True, and Frost is good. But Silver Sword has the chunkiest amount of Spirit damage which makes it pretty good. Also less stamina usage. And it can stagger enemies better because it has more slash damage than Mistwalker.

[gray sand]

I am Axes all the way to Mistlands, where I switch to Himminimmmnnmimn Afl.

Then back to Berserkir in Ash

[jagged wind]

the poison axe is not good in Mistlands?

[gray sand]

Poison sucks.

[keen cliff]

poison bombs are good in infested mines, and that's about it

[trail pelican]

it's just generally considered an underwhelming damage type i think because it doesn't stack (more poison damage just applies a new DoT, extending duration past what it would otherwise be, but actually then effectively 'wasting' time that would have overlapped for the DoTs, or not getting the full damage you would otherwise if they did stack at least) and also a number of mobs are immune to poison

[keen cliff]

i guess i used a bunch of bile bombs when i killed the queen

[trail pelican]

and the only reason the bombs so good is because it's an AoE

and one you can throw to trigger at range

[gray sand]

And you're only using the bombs once per poison duration

[keen cliff]

yeah. getting mobs behind doors basically

[tacit crystal]

One handed axes are a bit wonky compared to Swords/Clubs too.

[gray sand]

??????

[cobalt canyon]

hmm

[gray sand]

My favorite and main weapon is WONKY?!?!?!?!?!

[cobalt canyon]

Cause of the swing speed

[trail pelican]

mobs at the bottom of a staircase, clusters of mobs, low hp mobs (ticks, broods, deathsquitos, etc.)

[merry pebble]

They are just a bit slower 😉

[cobalt canyon]

If you can time the third hit right though

[tacit crystal]

Yes, and have a bit less range

[trail pelican]

are axe third hits any stronger inherently than sword third hits?

[cobalt canyon]

Don't think so

And the secondary swing is probably the least range

[gray sand]

But do more damage.

[hybrid isle]

I can’t wait to see more staffs in the game. I’m really enjoying my magic playthrough

[cobalt canyon]

3rd combo attack is valuable in a lot of places

[tacit crystal]

They do have the 1x 1x 2x damage combo like most other weapons.

[tacit crystal]

Some early game magic would be nice, like some elemental wands.

[trail pelican]

did some math, for primary attacks at least, literally within 1 point of average DPS

of each other, at least iron tier axe v sword--1 point or less in favor of axe

[cobalt canyon]

Makes you wish for a feature where you could just hold down your mouse & it would skip right to that don't it....

[hybrid isle]

Early game magic would just destroy everything in their path. Early game is pretty easy…

[trail pelican]

so TECHNICALLY, ok, i guess there's an argument to be made axes have a niche/thing they do better than 1h swords which otherwise they're almost identical to other than being slightly worse versions of

[gray sand]

Doubt they will add magic any earlier because they'd have to redo the entire food structure to bring Eitr in that early.

[trail pelican]

@gray sand yeah exxactly

[gray sand]

?

[nocturne wolf]

Why would we need that? We can use a secondary attack for more damage on most weapons.

[trail pelican]

lol should probs finished the thought

[cobalt canyon]

requires proper timing from start to strike

[tacit crystal]

Too late bro.

[gray sand]

Axes do more damage per swing but swords swing slightly faster.
DPS is the same overall, it's just playstyle preference.

[cobalt canyon]

3rd combo hold wouldn't require the player to calculate the start of the strike, just the release

[gray sand]

Unless you're talking about things axes can kill in 1-2 hits that take swords 3+, in which case, axes win.

Unless unless you're talking about Berserkir, in which case I will hear no opinion other than "AMAZEBALLS"

[tacit crystal]

The early magic items don't need to be that strong tho, and there are lots of ingredients to use in early game too. Some underused like yellow mushrooms or thistle for example.

[trail pelican]

it's maybe possible, question is how WORTH the effort

[gray sand]

I didn't mention strength at all.
I didn't mention it on purpose.
Because it isn't a factor in what I said.

[trail pelican]

because it definitely would require a total rebalance practically--food, weapons, and quite possibly if not likely armor too

[gray sand]

They would have to completely redo the food progression of the game for earlier Eitr.

[trail pelican]

i guess maybe you could just say "you'll get proper eitr regen buff robes later", but magic food & weapons at least

[hybrid isle]

What if they added actual combos to the game so we didn’t have to time, jump and spin around in order to do it 😂

[cobalt canyon]

Forsaken powers are basically early game magic

[gray sand]

Potentially in the cards for post-1.0
But actually finishing the game has priority for obv reasons.

[nova canopy]

Did anyone hear about the feather cape change

[nocturne wolf]

#valheim-public-test

[nova canopy]

Just heard about it rn

[cobalt canyon]

If it's PTB we probably don't want to know

[nova canopy]

What channel is it it says no access

[cobalt canyon]

Unless, of course, optimised greydwarf eye.

[nocturne wolf]

Go to channels and roles to enable the public test channels

[hybrid isle]

As a magic user, I think it would be really cool if they end up expanding the variety of staffs and other magic things… kind of like Skyrim 😂

[nova canopy]

Ohk

[gray sand]

It is PTB and it's people complaining because people are people 🤷‍♂️

[nova canopy]

Wait why are people complaining if its PTB

[nocturne wolf]

So it can potentially be changed for the full release
That’s why they do ptb

[keen cliff]

have you met people?

[gray sand]

Please don't... nerfing overpowered things is GOOD...

[nocturne wolf]

The nerf would be ok but ||hare trophies are too rare||

[nova canopy]

feather cale is useless after mistlands anyway

[nocturne wolf]

No it isn’t the jump boost is perfect for Ashland’s taller enemies and hitboxes

[keen cliff]

feather cape is still amazing in ashlands.

[gray sand]

Remove the potion from the game entirely.
Still nerf the cape.

I am perfectly happy. Because nerfing OVERPOWERED things is GOOD.

[nova canopy]

Ashen cape is just better if youre not mage or something ig

[pearl cloak]

apparently you can just use a fire resist mead to offset the fire vulnerability drawback. i see no issues with this from a game design standpoint

[keen cliff]

i love my feather cape don't touch it lol

[nocturne wolf]

It’s not overpowered though

[gray sand]

🤦‍♂️

[pearl cloak]

i made the switch to the asksvin cape myself, the run speed is awesome

[hazy viper]

I'm guessing you never build anything larger than 6m high.

[nova canopy]

The jump height actually got me killed a couple times in my own house because i kept jumping too high and catching fire on my hanging braizee

[merry pebble]

Oh but it is 😄 it was called "the best item" even before it got buffed with ashlands and after that it was basically the only cape you would seriously consider (tho i did use the ashen cape) 🙂

[keen cliff]

dverger lanterns again shown to be best light sources lol

[nova canopy]

Theyre too dim ngl

[pearl cloak]

idk, i dont see how the feather cape is OP. idc about the extra jump height tbf, though i love jumping over gates lol

[gray sand]

Dverger Circlet on Item Stand says hi.

[nova canopy]

Actually, all in favour for dvergr lantern buff?

[keen cliff]

yeah, i admit i haven't gone and tried the circlets like that

[gray sand]

Nay.

[nocturne wolf]

Making other capes more viable would’ve made everyone happy instead of doing whatever the feather cape nerf has done to the players.

[nova canopy]

We need more dvergr lantern love

[azure yacht]

Why?

[gray sand]

Harder to farm, but Surtling Trophy on Item Stand is an old classic.

[nova canopy]

Too dim

[azure yacht]

They're infinite

[keen cliff]

yeah, i did the surtling trophy on stand, but it's too dim

[gray sand]

Dragon Egg

[pearl cloak]

buffs are almost always better than nerfs. everyone gains something instead of like "fuck whoever liked this shit i guess"

[nova canopy]

yeah but
too much in one room is not pleasent to look at

[keen cliff]

1000% agree

[gray sand]

Hard disagree.

[merry pebble]

I guess, but there is still nothing wrong with nerfing it a bit 🙂

[azure yacht]

Not everyone likes being too overpowered

[pearl cloak]

logical fallacy: slippery slope. assumes that things will keep getting buffed and buffed and bufffed until you're overpowered. you still have to balance things obviously

nerfs are a part of balancing but i just think if we're losing something we should gain something. ideally, but it doesn't always work that way

if i accidentally made a sword that could one-shot every boss, i would nerf it. makes sense right. but what if i nerf it too much to where it does 0 damage? lets buff it. oh but it's slightly too strong, let's nerf it again... or we can just add a NEW thing not just pure damage to mess with! like lightning, or... bloodgem variants 🥰

[gray sand]

What you lose: Overpoweredness
What you gain: Balance
😉

[azure yacht]

Similarly, if we gain something we should live something.

It goes both ways

[nova canopy]

do you know what exactly needs balancing? Difficulty modes, they just make every enemy a sponge and make every one your weapons a stick, its challenging yes but just not fun

[azure yacht]

This is a game that benefits from having trade-offs for certain things

[nova canopy]

I'd prefer if valheim went with the dark souls kind of difficulty settings

[azure yacht]

Combat in valheim is barely a tenth of DS combat as to benefit from similar changes

[pearl cloak]

and the thing about playing how you want is: if you don't like how strong something is, use self-restrictions. overpowered items only become an issue in select situations, mainly when it's the ONLY viable option (the skyrim stealth archer) (or, at least, so strong that it's like a blackhole; everyone becomes skyrim stealth archer eventually 😂)

[gray sand]

The only thing I would change in difficulty settings is split that slider into 2 sliders.

Slider A is the damage/health slider.
Slider B is the "chance for starred enemies" slider.

Because sometimes you're fine with the normal combat damages, but just having more starred stuff would make the game have the challenge you want without needing to change all enemies.

[nova canopy]

i like the more starred enemies idea because theres actually more risk and reward, unlike normal difficulty settings where its just all risk no reward

[merry pebble]

But the feather cape was exactly like the blackhole you are talking about 🙂 It was so good EVERYONE was using it

[azure yacht]

Self-restrictions can only reach so far. And sometimes the game is pretty much balanced around using the features.

Imagine self-restricting yourself into not using magic and then you reach ashlands...

[pearl cloak]

what issue does it cause that everyone is using the feather cape? i can think of "developer intentions", hence the fire debuff. is there anything else?

[pearl cloak]

Self-restrictions can only reach so far.
i did mention this. hence the skyrim stealth archer black hole argument

[gray sand]

I do my best to have good ideas.

You can do this via console commands, but I wish it was slider-able.

[pearl cloak]

like why did they remove the jump height to begin with? to make flametal mining harder?

[merry pebble]

That all other capes (even later ones) are being overshadowed, dont get me wrong, i would would not mind at all if the strongest version of the feather cape stayed, but i really dont see any problem with it being nerfed a little bit 🙂

[nova canopy]

i wish harder difficulty modes changed boss attack patterns like terraria, and maybe add more loot to the boss than just progression item

[merry pebble]

you can still jump up just fine 🤷‍♂️

[pearl cloak]

gotcha! that's a completely fair argument. dont worry, just trying to understand the sides. not arguing because im butthurt or anything yk? haha

gotta think

[nova canopy]

Idea: when you upgrade feather cape in the deep north biome, you get the featherer cape and you get the pre nerf feather cape, thats it

[merry pebble]

Of course 😄 thats what discussions are for after all

[merry pebble]

Try to post it in suggestions 🙂 maybe there will be something like that 🙂

[nocturne wolf]

||It was moved to a mead, which wouldn’t be a problem if it didn’t require the hare trophy with a 5% drop rate.||

[pearl cloak]

imo im completely fine with the feather cape being made not viable for the ashlands (even the deep north when it comes) if that's what the devs intend. the fire debuff is obvious, it's explained very well (so long as you read and pay attention): "this thing makes me weak to fire? weird. oh, this entire biome is literally on fire. i probably shouldnt use the feather cape. i wonder if there's a better one?"

The problem, then, is: there is no better one yet. not really, at least. and that's a difficult spot to be put into. you could add more special capes, but that would cause bloat. you could buff the other capes, but with what?? i can see why the devs went to nerfing it and made a potion to get the jump height back

the only thing i would worry about it making the feather cape weaker for the mistlands, because i think it's honestly perfect for there

[nocturne wolf]

I prefer capes being viable in later biomes, as alternative options instead of objectively worse old items.

[light moat]

There’s a couple of decent capes, yeah? Asksvin and Flametal capes are solid

[pearl cloak]

i personally use the asksvin cape and havent gone back to the feather cape, but it seems some players are just unhappy that the feather cape is so viable

[nova canopy]

Were there horses in norse myth

[merry pebble]

yes, the most famous is probably Sleipnir, 8-legged horse, son of Loki that Odin rode on

[pearl cloak]

what's a horse

[hybrid isle]

What if they added a cape that gives you a split buff depending on the day/night cycle? Perhaps a speed/jump/eitr buff during the day and at night made you become invisible or something? Some Harry Potter stuff xD

[nova canopy]

Like in terraria

[pearl cloak]

yeah and that's another issue. some people are saying it's not that bad. you just need 1 ||hare trophy|| for 6 mead, right? so it's not awful. why do you need a reserve of ||jump potions||?

[azure yacht]

Counter point: It seems easier to buff existing capes rather than create new ones that will inevitably be compared to old ones.

Asksvin and ashen capes needed several patches to compete with feather

[pearl cloak]

i like the idea! as fahim said, terraria does that :)

[nocturne wolf]

The problem is the drop rate. I don’t want to spend too much time farming hares to keep the decent jump height I’m used to.

[pearl cloak]

i haven't touched flametal stuff, what's the current state of the ashen cape?