valheim-chat

[vocal rivet]

Yes, it's called effective use of terrain.

[keen cliff]

gamers are a weird bunch sometime: I am not having fun with this game! I need to argue with people who are having fun with it! The devs must change the game to meet my specific vision! I refuse to just stop doing something that i don't have fun with and go do something else! Waa! Waa!

[cyan ocean]

sure, that's allowed, but why wouldn't you also agree that it's unfun for many people to stand on a rock abusing bad AI, and therefore agree that the game should change?

[icy apex]

kk

[pliant hatch]

And another option:

#valheim-chat message

[keen cliff]

i don't care if you're not having fun Flaek. It doesn't matter to me. You should go do something that is fun to you. I guess arguing on the internet is fun for you?

[cyan ocean]

it's abusing bad AI 🤣 🤣🤣🤣

[cyan ocean]

the game has been alright up untill this point, but the mistlands is just a horrible biome that exaggerates everything wrong with the game

[icy apex]

and what bow should I use?

fine or crude, because fine drains more stamina I thinkk

[keen cliff]

and so what? games do things like that. do you have so little to do that you're going to spend this time on a game that's been "alright" and then argue about it for days when you're not having fun anymore? Is your Steam library JUST Valheim?

Flaek: I will personally send you $20 on Steam somehow to go buy another game so you can go have fun

[cyan ocean]

alright

send me a steam giftcard or gift me a game

[keen cliff]

i'm the fun angel. but you have to promise to actually go away and stop arguing senselessly here

[pliant hatch]

I'd say use the fine bow and wooden arrows.

But then, I've never aimed at seriously training my bow skills. I just use that weapon when I need it and that way to kill Draugr is something I do because it's fun.
Plus, since the spawner occasionally brings in elites and archers, as well as starred Draugr, shooting them occasionally gets harder.

[cyan ocean]

right

if you give me 20$

[keen cliff]

okay, give me your Steam ID or email or something

[icy apex]

nuh uh

[icy apex]

bro dont do that 💀

[keen cliff]

the only thing preventing me from doing is that thinking he won't go away and stop aruging 🙂

[cyan ocean]

right...

[icy apex]

can somebody just answer my question (about actually valheim) please 😂

[cyan ocean]

this is "actually valheim", but okay

[keen cliff]

okay, i can gift Valheim to dyou, Flaek?

[pliant hatch]

I just did, but didn't tag you as a reply:

#valheim-chat message

[cyan ocean]

you can't gift me a game i already own

[keen cliff]

okay

[vocal rivet]

The bug list and #suggestions would say otherwise.

[icy apex]

ah allright

my bad, ty

[cyan ocean]

it very much is

[cloud sequoia]

Sup guys, which ore do I gather after getting bronze and where do I find it?

[vocal rivet]

Disagree.

[odd helm]

Easy now

[icy apex]

after defeating the elder you get a swamp key, which you need for swamp crypts found in the swamp, there you can find iron scrap

[cloud sequoia]

Thx

[pliant hatch]

Need to go to the Swamp.
And make sure you have killed the Elder, otherwise getting iron is hard.

UNless you cheese it using a stagbreaker.

[icy apex]

Smelt that iron in the furnace and boom, welcome to the iron age

[vocal rivet]

We've only resorted to that when the other solutions have been rejected.

And this isn't a case of game issues on this occasion anyway.

[pliant hatch]

NP. Sometimes the chat scrolls that fast, it's easy to miss a reply to a question.

[cyan ocean]

how is it not a game issue that an enemy is impossible to kill with anything but a bow, and that you have to cheese the game by standing on a rock and abuse it's bad AI to kill it!???!?

[vocal rivet]

If they'd complain about not being able to attack on a slope we'd be right behind them.

[pliant hatch]

The irony is that Mistlands offer a complete new aspect of killing things. Have you missed that somehow?
Because with that aspect killing Seeker Soldiers is even easier as with a bow.

[serene hollow]

What enemy is valheim is only killable with a bow? I almost never use a bow through the whole game.

[cyan ocean]

alright so you can only kill enemies with magic and bows, how great, that makes it waaay better

[pliant hatch]

Has it ever occured to you that it may not be "bad AI", but intentional done by the Devs to give players at least one option to defeat one of the harder monsters of the Mistland?

[vocal rivet]

Not true. You can kill them with anything but Spirit damage.

[cyan ocean]

the seeker soldiers: they have 1500hp and i do 34 damage to them with the mislands lightning fork thingy

[cyan ocean]

do you enjoy killing things that can't fight back?

[cyan ocean]

you can also kill them naked with your fists, but that just isn't really an option brother

[vocal rivet]

They can fight back, they keep killing you.

[cyan ocean]

not if i stand on a rock and shoot them with magic or arrows

[vocal rivet]

I don't know what you want anymore.

[serene hollow]

You are using the wrong thing. You need a level 3 iron buckler and an ancient bark spear. You parry the head smash, jump over and thrown spear in his ass. Takes about 6 hits. If you want to see real talent at it go watch @rancid solstice speed run videos. He is awesome at it.

[odd helm]

Seeker soldiers are absolutely killable with melee weapons though? It doesn't take a lot to parry them once you're into the weapons of the biome

(assuming default difficulty)

[serene hollow]

Once you get mistlands spear it is even easier.

[cyan ocean]

again we're furthering the idea of only being able to use specific weapons, even though there are a wide array of them

[pliant hatch]

My goal in this game isn't do die a quazillion times in an attempt to kill monsters.
My goal in this game is to defeat the bosses and everything that comes between them and me.
And to make sure I reach my goal, I use every method possible to avoid being killed.

If that means I need to abuse how the AI works by "cheesing" it. So be it.

I am enjoying the game as it is even with the bugs and all we all occasionally encounter.

That doesn't mean I'm happy with those bugs - unless they're seekers, soldiers, ticks, s'quitoes and gjall - but I adapt to them to make sure that at the end of the fight I'm the one standing.

[serene hollow]

Easy ways to kill seeker soldier. 1. Frostner, Mistwalker sword, ember staff, any spear ancient or higher, Any mace iron or higher. They take massive damage in the rear. Parry is the key to kill one. Frostner is OP after parry because you can get off a full combo in the rear due to the slow.

[vocal rivet]

Do you unscrew screws with a hammer? No, you use the correct tool for the job.

[cyan ocean]

why would you not want the bad AI and game design to be fixed though?

[cyan ocean]

this is a video game

[pliant hatch]

I didn't say that. Don't try to put words in my mouth just to proof your "right".

[cyan ocean]

well i proposed changing the AI and gamedesign so it's possible to kill seeker soldiers without cheesing, but you don't like that idea

[serene hollow]

Because casual players need a way to get through it. If they couldnt cheese the terrain and kill with what works for them they would be on here complaining. Oh wait, that is what they are doing now about bad AI.

[cyan ocean]

brother, if casual players can't beat the game because everything is a damage sponge, maybe there's a problem

[pliant hatch]

I don't see it in https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1202312684364910612

When did you propose it?

[robust delta]

are we talking about seeker soldiers being hard to fight?

[cyan ocean]

i said that seeker soldiers have too much hp, that it's bs that you can stand on a rock and cheese the AI, and i just said that stuff shouldn't be damage sponges

[cyan ocean]

i literally have to hit them 44 times with the lightning rod thing from the mistlands biome to kill them

[vocal rivet]

We can't change the game. Only the devs can do that.

[cyan ocean]

but you're defending the damn game??

[vocal rivet]

On this aspect yes.

[pliant hatch]

You said that here.

But you just mentioned you proposed that the AI should be changed.

Yet, I don't see anything in the https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1202312684364910612 channel, meaning you haven't proposed it in the proper channel.

[robust delta]

i forget what that is (mostly cuz im only clubs and shield + mage now lol)
lightning atgeir?

[cyan ocean]

yeah

[cyan ocean]

sword aswell

[fair cairn]

dont forget that the server got hacked a while back and a lot of history is gone as well

[robust delta]

interesting. they were an ok time when i was fighting them

[odd helm]

I'm pretty sure you can easily parry then with the himminafl and then walk behind them to get the rear damage

No rock cheese needed

[vocal rivet]

Most of them were duplicates of duplicates.

[cyan ocean]

i'll test that out, thanks for the actual advice

[fair cairn]

i thought parry was a well known fact at mistlands stage in the game

[ornate sigil]

Haha, rock cheese. 🪨🧀

[robust delta]

i upgrade all my crap to max though. so far done 2 methods (i don't like cheesing)
i could either parry and then heavy attack or heavy and then sprit to do a basic hit to deal about same dmg w/th porcupine

[vocal rivet]

We've given plenty of advice, you've just dismissed it all.

[cyan ocean]

because it's bad advice, like rock cheesing or "just hit its week spot, bro"

[robust delta]

i usually eat 2 health foods and 1 stam when im warrior mode. i never really used atgeirs aside panic buttons so can't say much

[fair cairn]

upgrading items to max in this game is not needed but its 100% unavoidable for me

[cyan ocean]

it is, but you assume that a big tank like that could easily hit through the shield

[vocal rivet]

How is telling you to make use of the weak spots bad advice? On what planet?

[cyan ocean]

you literally said that it wasn't a problem to kill, and that i should just hit its week spot, then i told you that i could only hit its weekspot when it did its AE, and you dismissed it

[fair cairn]

fair enoguh but you can parry a trolls tree as well so ehh

[robust delta]

is it hard to run to the abdomen and poke it once u got a parry off?

[cyan ocean]

yeah, but not with bronze stuff?

[vocal rivet]

Not remotely.

[robust delta]

i recall parrying a troll's log swipe with bronze stuff. the overhead was a different story that involved a gravestone

[cyan ocean]

i recall not being able to block any of its attacks

[fair cairn]

likely yes just no over ehad strikes

[robust delta]

never realized how swift one handed mace was

[keen cliff]

i wish i had a way to add Rock Cheese emojis to my name for this server only in discord

[fair cairn]

also silver gear can parry a golem as well so parry should be viable allt hey way to deepnorth atleast

[robust delta]

what foods do u run? maybe an extra health and a stam potion can help out, or upgrading gear. maybe u can carry a shield to get a parry off and then swap i guess

[odd helm]

I mean, if you actually want the numbers of what attacks can be parried and what gear you need to parry them, Sevrah's spreadsheet linked in the pins here should be pretty conclusive.

[cyan ocean]

i have no idea where to check for that

[odd helm]

Pinned posts of this channel, listed under my post titled vetted community tools

[robust delta]

the pins are top right of the chatbox. near the member list.
on mobile you have to click the chatbox name up top, and then click the pins tab

[cyan ocean]

i think it's easier to just try than use those formulas

[robust delta]

heh

lightning rod. i might keep that around for my vocab. that's really silly-funny to me

what would be a goofy name for mistwalker 🤔

[robust delta]

Himminafl

[cyan ocean]

you can parry a seeker soldier

i guess i don't understand the dodge mechanic then

why do i dodge when i can just parry?

[robust delta]

for times when you can't parry i suppose, like running daggers or trying to take a troll overhead with a club

you could jump as an alternative though

[cyan ocean]

could someone tell me how i kill the flying alien invader thing?

[robust delta]

the eggs that it has on its underside (big red section thing; yes those are eggs prepare to be terrified) is really vulnerable to pierce damage, so landing a good shot with some arbalest shots can do the trick

[gusty sandal]

any guide for mods? like how do i enable them etc. im went new solo server

[robust delta]

#mods-discussion maybe there's some stuff over yander to help ya

[pliant hatch]

You have to use either a bow of magic.

Unless you're very lucky and you're able to get close to it for melee while standing on top of a peak in Mistlands.

[fallen zephyr]

Have you found a secret biome? I can't think of any mob that made me think of flying aliens.

[keen cliff]

alright guys, i think my new valheim name really exemplifies how i play this game

[cyan ocean]

stop

[serene hollow]

I assume he is referring to a Gjall. To kill it you can do one a couple of things. Easiest is shoot it in the belly with a bow. You can throw spears in its belly. You can kill it with the ember staff pretty easy, very weak to fire. Running away is an option as well.

[fallen zephyr]

Ok, so... Tell us?

[keen cliff]

rock cheese!

i guess you had to be reading the chat here earlier to really get the joke. sigh. that's a problem

[icy apex]

is valheim available on ps?

[serene hollow]

On the gjall avoid the front 1/3 the fireballs hurt. Fire resist mead is your friend when fighting gjalls untiil you learn the mechanics.

[fallen zephyr]

Why would a nickname that "exemplifies how you play the game" be influenced by the chat?

[keen cliff]

i'm saying: the term "rock cheese" came up. I thought it was hilarious, and also is how i play the game sometimes. so i took it as part of my nick name. Does that make sense to you?

[warm sandal]

Because treelash is standing on a rock and cheesing the mobs with a bow 😄

[keen cliff]

hammer mostly right now, but yes! exactly

[warm sandal]

me finally found a pretty plains spot close to a big lump of mist 😄 gonna build a new home there 😄

[keen cliff]

#screenshots message

[fallen zephyr]

Or! Are they standing on cheese throwing rocks at enemy mobs?!

[keen cliff]

new cheese biome rumors

[warm sandal]

that might work too as long as them mobs do not run away

[pliant hatch]

That would mean we got mice in game.
Which make me wonder: can we tame them? If we can, would naming them Minnie and Mickey be allowed? How large are they going to be? Do we have to find a cat to defend our cheese rocks from the mice?

[fallen zephyr]

i'd be ok with mice in game if we could build steamboats and have them pilot them.

It's public domain after all.

[keen cliff]

i think they are rodents of unusual size

[pliant hatch]

And what about the armor?
Mice-fur armor: when wearing the full set you're able to enter buildings through tiny holes.
But its protection is kinda crappy to force players to switch out the armor. (and to give them something to complain about 😄 )

[keen cliff]

actually, we need rodents of unusual size in the swamp hanging around the fire geysers

[fallen zephyr]

Rodents of unusual size only appear in the swamps.

[pliant hatch]

If I want to fight rodents of unusual size, I play Sacred 2. There's plenty of those in that game.

[warm sandal]

you think the surtlings alone is too easy`? (we got rodents of unusual size in the Mist - them hares can get damn big with stars) 😄

[keen cliff]

Valheim: Princess Bride edition

[fallen zephyr]

I like it! But, it also takes something like 500 mouse skins to build the armour.

[warm sandal]

oh yeah we gotta have the grind!!!

[fallen zephyr]

White with two, please.

[pliant hatch]

White Mouse fur cap. Needing 100 white mouse furs. And then having only 2 white mice spawning in the swamp. 😄
(At the same time, that is)

[warm sandal]

sidenote: scouting out a new spot for a nice base is my favorite way of procrastinating to kill the boss 😄

[keen cliff]

currently mine is making breeders, deciding i need more of the various metals, and, yeah, maybe i need to sail around and find a nice island base location, now that you mentioned it

[fallen zephyr]

Makes sense since white mice are a rare phenotype.

[keen cliff]

i want to try to find a small island that's half plains half mistlands. that's the end game goal

[pliant hatch]

And it boosts exploration. 🙂

[pliant hatch]

With enough rocks to cheese the monsters?

[fallen zephyr]

If it did, it would also increase aggro range because you stand out against the environment.

[keen cliff]

i can bring my own rocks. you should see how i dealt with the sealed tower bosses

[pliant hatch]

Come to think of it, we would need a mice-raid as well.
Perhaps something like the bats, but instead of killing off your boars the mice enter your house and destroy half of the stockpiled food and food items in your chests....... 🤔

[keen cliff]

mice getting into my chests and eating my stockpile of food?!?! holy crap I would rage lol

[pliant hatch]

Lemme guess, you brought a hoe, a couple of 100 stones and made a dirt wall to get to the first opening large enough to enter the tower?

[stoic matrix]

Next biome is Australia?

[keen cliff]

there was a fuling village right there, so I surrounded a good part of the tower with earthen walls so i could hammer the boss through the walls in peace. Since the 60m noise of the hammer attracted the entire village. i chipped the boss down from outside the tower, and then also beat all the goblins that investigated through the earthen walls also

[pliant hatch]

Nope. The Devs have considered it, but they can't come up with 666 different dangerous monsters.

[jagged wind]

is it just me or is the stone consumption for building insanely high?

[fallen zephyr]

'A Plague Tale' did it quite well. More like a wave than a swarm.

[pliant hatch]

It could be you; but it most likely depends at how large your stone building is. But in general a reasonable sized building does require a lot of stone.

The good thing is that we also got plenty of resources for stone, so getting the materials isn't the problem.

[fallen zephyr]

Wait... have we just encountered "The One"?!

[pliant hatch]

I doubt it, because I think the highest point of the dirt wall you can craft is still below the first balcony you could use to enter a tower.

[jagged wind]

i used like over 2 iron chests of stone for just a small segment of wall 😅

[pliant hatch]

But I've never tried it, so I may be mistaken

Which wall pieces are you using?
Because the very big ones seem to use more stone as the ones all the ruined towers use.

[keen cliff]

yes, the balcony is higher than the max earth wall height.

[jagged wind]

after this experience im thinking of changing to no-cost building otherwise i will spend over 200 hrs just farming materials for my town

[jagged wind]

all types tbh.. depends

[fallen zephyr]

Australia is barely more dangerous than Meadows. We live by the mantra, "Don't be a dickhead, and you won't find yourself dead".

[pliant hatch]

But it's fun to have your pickaxe skill being the first one hitting 50, 60, 70, 80 and more!

[jagged wind]

well.. the pickaxe skill is not the thing that i want to have skilled the most 😅

[stoic matrix]

I was just talking about the periodic plague of mice haha

[jagged wind]

would prefer bow and some melee weapon first

[fallen zephyr]

Would you like milk or sugar with your grind?

[pliant hatch]

Pizza and a bottle of cola will do fine, thank you.

[stoic matrix]

You can’t fool me though, there are no meese in Australia

[fallen zephyr]

There very much are. I'm actually an author on a scientific paper testing the sexual selection on a population of mice.

[stoic matrix]

Moosen

[fallen zephyr]

Fail.

[pliant hatch]

On a more serious note: you will be able to get lots of stone from mining out the two copper and two silver veins you need for most of your gear anyway.
Mining the boulders close to a portal is quite easy too.
Just don't spend all your time at getting those resources, instead do it once in a while while also going out to hunt.
You'll notice you're soon have a few K of stone available without even realizing it.

Also, don't drop it into a chest, keep them in a cart. Makes it a lot easier to use it for building as you can take the cart close to your building spot and you can store more in a cart as you can in a chest.

[vocal rivet]

Genuinely?

[fallen zephyr]

Yep. It was part of my Honours year at the University of Western Australia.

[vocal rivet]

That's cool.

[jagged wind]

well i had few thousands of stone.. but they were all gone in like 2 hrs of building 🥲

[fallen zephyr]

Thanks 🙂 (Edit: I should clarify "an author" is precise; I wasn't the only author).

[keen cliff]

lol i wasn't paying attention, and suddenly realized i have .... a lot of barley flour. like an unreasonable amount. i guess i need to make some bread

[half dragon]

there are no mice, they are actually all robotic spy rodents and that study is to make their existence seem more believable

[pliant hatch]

Or simply stop dropping all the barley in that windmill

Oh, that reminds me: food with mice meat.
For stamina that could be Micescream? Or does that mean you need to milk them.......

[stoic matrix]

I was making a joke on your user name being moose, I probably should have been clearer my bad

[fallen zephyr]

Never stop producing flour. All I'll say is that everyone loves pie!

[vocal rivet]

I worked with mice for a summer but they were all dead when I got them (intentionally). Measuring fat loss due to cancer induced cachexia.

[fallen zephyr]

Nice! There's a company in my city called Ozgene that breeds genetically-modified mice to be bought for experimentation; I applied for a job with them but failed.

[fallen zephyr]

We might have found some common ground, my dude! Hazar!

[vocal rivet]

Lol. About time. I'm not a lab tech anymore though.

[fallen zephyr]

I now work for an Improv Theatre organisation, and perform with such. It's a long way from the stresses of academia.

[vocal rivet]

Did I mention I'm also an actor?

[fallen zephyr]

WHHHAAAA?!

Well, fuck me. This is fun,.

[vocal rivet]

Mostly theatre though I've done two short films this year (waiting for the second to be edited)

[fallen zephyr]

Noice. I'd be keen to see your work.

We might be off topic for the channel though, so...

[keen cliff]

it's valheim short movie

totally on topic

[fallen zephyr]

It can't be any worse than the Borderlands movie

[keen cliff]

lol i've heard the reviews are horrible

[vocal rivet]

Mind a DM? I'll be doxxing myself hard.

[fallen zephyr]

I can't guarantee a good deal of attention, but I'm sincerely interested in seeing your work. Go for it.

[pliant hatch]

I doubt anyone who hasn't played the game, would understand it when the main character dies in the Valheim movie because a tree fell in him / her.....

[keen cliff]

video game movies always need some fan service

like that one viking you see in the movie who is just shown every now and then digging a huge moat. that's all you see. no explanation.

[fallen zephyr]

That's great! It's totally on par with 'The Suicide Squad' after the release of 'Suicide Squad'. I love the idea.

[pliant hatch]

Yeah, well I think so far most video game movies are very great misses. With the exception of "The last of Us" (which was a TV show) I can't of any movie based upon a video game being "good".

[keen cliff]

the Fallout series was super enjoyable

[vocal rivet]

Hard agree. Fallout nailed it.

[keen cliff]

at least one of the Silent Hill movies was a fun enjoyable watch also

[fallen zephyr]

You've clearly never watched 'Pixels'. 😛

[vocal rivet]

Basically original story in familiar setting seems to be the way.

[vocal rivet]

I... Have no words. They weren't horrible films but didn't do the games justice.

[pliant hatch]

Yeah, series can be good, because they got the time to work on the character in multiple episodes; explaining why or how a character got to that point.
In a movie that's a bit harder.

Unless you're Peter Jackson and turn a 100 page script in three 180 minutes movies (240 minutes in the Director's Cut)

[fallen zephyr]

Insightful. That would seem to be the formula.

[vocal rivet]

Oh, don't get me started on the Hobbit.

[keen cliff]

i agree that they weren't high cinema. But i forget which one, but one of them i watched and enjoyed. i didn't consider it a waste of time.

[vocal rivet]

That's fair.

[keen cliff]

oh, i enjoyed the first Resident Evil movie. It was fun.

my standards are fairly low for video game movies in general

[fallen zephyr]

The Halo TV series was pretty good too. (I've never played the games (I'm Playstation/PC-Master-Race).

[lunar sapphire]

chat is chatty 👍

[fallen zephyr]

Shhh! We're talking.

[vocal rivet]

At least we're not fighting anymore.

[lunar sapphire]

not about valheim it seems

[pliant hatch]

I mean, I grew up with the Mortal Kombat and Dungeon Siege movies. Don't think there are any game based movies worse as those two.

[lunar sapphire]

awe D:

[keen cliff]

we're going to make a Valheim fan made movie

[vocal rivet]

We are?

[lunar sapphire]

Scarlet Johanson

ignore typos

[vocal rivet]

Lol.

[keen cliff]

yeah, we are. i just announced it. crowd funding started last week

[pliant hatch]

No need to. We got Scarlet Quiver. 😉

[fallen zephyr]

I've been trying to find some common ground with @vocal rivet for so very long. You need to let us have this.

[vocal rivet]

Don't blame me for this. I get in enough trouble.

[lunar sapphire]

I can tell you now that an American and a Moose don't quite mix. Geographically speaking (yes Ik there's some locations such as Maine that have moose)

[vocal rivet]

Where are the Americans?

[lunar sapphire]

are you not?

[vocal rivet]

Hell no.

[lunar sapphire]

British?

[vocal rivet]

Yup.

[keen cliff]

Bri'ish

[lunar sapphire]

Ah - even more so

[prime wren]

wot?

[lunar sapphire]

no moose in the UK (except for the highland wildlife park in scotland)

[prime wren]

As someone in New England, moose are fine

[pliant hatch]

I dunno what's worse.
At least the Vikings didn't live that long in the America's as they did in Britain. 😄

[fallen zephyr]

Which of the (conservatively) two-dozen accents was that one?

[lunar sapphire]

Brooklyn

[fallen zephyr]

Yo! When I wan' yor opiny'n, ah'll ask fer it!

[lunar sapphire]

lost a braincell, on that note - Valheim is bae and adios for tonight

[hidden gorge]

there's plenty of Meese up north

[keen cliff]

a very badly done one

[lunar sapphire]

moose in deep north?

odd but could work

[pliant hatch]

No, no, no.

We need the Rock Cheese biome first.

I want that mice armor!

[keen cliff]

the rain storm audio in valheim is very soothing. i've had the game paused during a storm while i work now for about 30 minutes. it's soothing

[lunar sapphire]

How would you describe it?

[hidden gorge]

I haven't seen the TV show (I haven't heard very many good things about it) but the halo games are and have been absolutely available for pc -- I don't even have playstation and I've played most of them (halo 3 iirc wasn't on pc for a long while)

[lunar sapphire]

Valheim?

[keen cliff]

.hmm i think soothing? Did i mention it was soothing? something about the soothing nature of it

[lunar sapphire]

ah yep, calming and relaxing. would need to relisten to confirm

[hidden gorge]

ah, was just scrolling up -- wasn't looking at the channel

[prime wren]

I have decided I want to build a castle in the Plains for my base but I still need to settle on a general design

[keen cliff]

i'm going to keep typing the word soothing until it doesn't look correct anymore

[azure yacht]

Not everyone thinks it's easy and people could still struggle fighting bosses

[lunar sapphire]

It took me about an hour - 1.5 hours to take down Fader for the very first time - back when Ashlands was still new

[fallen zephyr]

Moose do tend toward the colder climes. However, when a moose is deemed glorious, their climatic limitations are released and they can comfortably reside as far away as the great southern land.

[lunar sapphire]

low 1/3 of health bar and he kept spamming add spawns. Archers protecting him so I couldn't get close

[cyan ocean]

it's only hard because of their spongey health pool

[fallen zephyr]

I'm saying I didn't grow up with it. The PC ports are generally years after the initial release.

[cyan ocean]

you become cocky because you're bored, so you attack one extra time than you should and get hit, it isn't actually because they're hard to counter, just unbelivably boring

[lunar sapphire]

In any case - the bees are now sleeping

don't take this opportunity to become internet trolls. Other staff online so behave!

Derek has authority to report ❤️ (as do all of you should you need to)

[prime wren]

[pliant hatch]

Speaking of bees, that makes me wonder how many beehives you would need to kill a troll.
If it's even possible, as the damage a troll does will most likely destroy the beehives before the bees are able to attack the troll.

Anyone ever tested that?

[wintry panther]

ur the reason we can't have nice things

[keen cliff]

i support this scientific endaevor

[fallen zephyr]

Have you tried crafting the 'Ar-bee-lest'? Firing bees at your enemies from a crossbow is surprisingly effective.

[nocturne wolf]

Because poison doesn’t stack you’d need to space out the beehives for maximum damage

[pliant hatch]

I do know that bees can kill the Greydwarves and even the Brutes. Have seen it happen a few times.
But I've never dared to lure a troll to my base to see what bees does on that

[prime trail]

How interesting would it be to have more worlds then just Valheim :), like when you are finished with Valheim you can go to realm of the dead, Hellheim xD that would've made a great dlc xD

[nocturne wolf]

That would just be an all-ashlands world?

[fallen zephyr]

It'd require a 'Hall-of hives'. You'd need to funnel a troll along a significant path, bordered by bees, to even have a chance. I'd argue it might be easier to kill a troll with falling trees.

[pliant hatch]

Nah. People will immediately complain that the barley wine is not good enough to deal with the fire damage.

[pliant hatch]

I think I'll stick to using the good ole Bow 'n Arrow.
At least that gives me more skill. 😄

[fallen zephyr]

You're not going to parry with your oakshield?

[fallen zephyr]

There's a game series called "God of War" that you need to explore.

[pliant hatch]

Nope, I prefer to cheese it. 😄

[maiden epoch]

I find fun in luring trolls to the towers in the Black Forest and shooting them from there. Sure the towers are ablative armor, but they tend to last for a few trolls 🙂

[nocturne wolf]

I just roll and jump around them while stabbing their legs until they die

[pliant hatch]

I did that once. And just then I encountered a log-troll.
Needless to say the tower didn't last long

[maiden epoch]

I still have a tower standing - a little bit - from a log troll 😄

[maiden epoch]

I'm still learning dodge-roll; don't trust myself enough with that vs trolls until Iron gear.

[nocturne wolf]

If an attack can be jumped over, jumping over is better. You can’t do this against trolls, but if you’re rolling from smaller enemies try this instead.

[maiden epoch]

I've only been rolling against the larger enemies

...and I've been doing that once I feel my armor/shield is upgraded enough to parry

[nocturne wolf]

I always jump attack when I can, attacking doesn’t slow you down in the air

[maiden epoch]

Honestely, having a depleted copper node in the Black Forest is easy mode for trolls, at least the nodes I dug a trench around.

So yeah, being able to use terrain and multiple ways to engage enemies is one of the strongest points of combat game design in Valheim, in my opinion.

[pliant hatch]

I think it is in most players opinion.

Because if it wasn't, why would so many players dig moats and / or use dirt walls to protect their bases?

Or in my case, use an island and raise it up to a plateau.

[nocturne wolf]

I’ve never used dirt walls. Enemies don’t randomly attack walls, so there’s no point in making them indestructible, and they’re uglier than normal walls

[azure yacht]

Nah

And the game set in valheim hence is literally named Valheim.

Not "All 9 + 1 worlds of Norse mythology"

[pliant hatch]

I've used them once. And found them that butt fugly I vowed I would never use them again.
Even with a plateau you can have a somewhat ugly look, but with the stone walls on top of that it looks at least a bit more decent.
And it may get better if I'm able to use the cultivator on it and plant grass, giving it a more natural look.

[fallen zephyr]

Are 'dirt walls' just building up the land with the hoe?

[nocturne wolf]

Yes

[fallen zephyr]

So much effort, for so little reward.

Build a proper wall, people.

[sour hound]

sup

Anyone wanna play valheim today? I need someone to play with.

[pulsar idol]

Dm me to play. I'm new

[nocturne wolf]

#1024264966712340510 is the right channel for finding people to play with

[sour hound]

thanks

[sharp bluff]

well, its indestructible

(almost since ashlands)

[rocky gust]

Whats in ashlands

Like is it like an end game fight till the infinity

[distant field]

Not end game, penultimate biome.

[keen cliff]

dang, looks like eggs won't roll down 26 degree roof tiles. let me try 45

i wonder if the tar roofs roll better

[sharp bluff]

and also currently the ultimate biome until we get a big patch

[hard gale]

man I remember when plains was the "endgame", that was around when I started

[keen cliff]

it appears that if you want to maximize the chance of mobs falling into your moat, you can build a wall that they can walk up, but it's up high and maybe narrow, and then they have a large chance of falling in. I got raided by fulings after doing some moat stuff, and one side effect is a couple of them fell in with the wolves

[modern rune]

So what option do i have for midgame traps n defense

[keen cliff]

what specifically are you trying to defend against?

[modern rune]

Just something to damage whatever approaching my base

[keen cliff]

the "whatever" matters. name specific raids or mobs

[hidden gorge]

digging a ditch will prevent literally anything that walks from passing it

[modern rune]

I actually raise a dirt wall surround my base and already cover it with some building to make it look like real walls

My base have 3 access point and 2 of them are ports

Last one is a trench i'm planning to build a bridge over

What i need is something to kill the mobs approaching stuff outside my base like boats

[hidden gorge]

you can keep your boats in a boathouse

walls/roofs will prevent enemies from aggroing them

[keen cliff]

so, killing mobs automatically is harder. but you can use a boathouse. you could tame wolves and let them run around outside your base

[modern rune]

How do you tranport wolf to an island

[hidden gorge]

boat

[modern rune]

They can stay on boat?

[keen cliff]

if you're on an island, just spawn proof the whole island with workbenches or campfires

[modern rune]

Okay that's new

[keen cliff]

if you transport wolves by boat, be careful if you run past a sea serpent. they will jump in after it

[modern rune]

Yeah

Also what to buy from harold for first time

Oh wait

Megingjord don't have unlock requirement from harold?

[keen cliff]

no. and that's the first thing

[modern rune]

Hell yeah

[hearty niche]

I keep seeing these log messages... and just realized its probably because I made them with whatever version is in the beta.

[frail wagon]

i find it odd lord rito dose not have his own trophy

[keen cliff]

lol my game has turned into Farmheim: chicken breeder/killer, egg farm, boar and wolf tower, lox tower, two plots for growing veggies.

odin is confused

[pliant hatch]

Farming Simulater: The Viking Expansion. 😄

[lapis marsh]

i'll be honest, I treat my game like this. turned off base raiding so I could make it look more open and farmlike.

[keen cliff]

totally get it! I'm trying to set up raids like another farm. Been working on getting mobs to fall into my wolf moat. But i understand how moats and such are ugly

fuling raids simplify getting black metal to my main base lol

[naive vine]

When connecting to my friend's server, I get the error "Connection failed." No matter what I do, I can't fix it. Can anyone help????

[serene talon]

thats the part i like

infininte barley fields hmmmmm

[lapis marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/gladiator-russell-crowe-wheat-elysium-gif-16139794

[near furnace]

make sure you both use the correct method

are both on PC?

someone on xbox?

mirosoft store version?

apple store?

no one uses VPN

etc

[naive vine]

yes

[prime wren]

Quick ques, if you level out a small island at sea, and build a little castle island on that, how problematic are storms/waves? Will they ignore walls and rush through and damage stuff?

[naive vine]

but ı dont now why . I was playing it all the time and suddenly it happened

[pliant hatch]

Yes, it will.
It will also slam your boat(s) against your dock if the dock is build at the "ocean side" of that island.

To prevent the occasional flooding, raise the land 3-4 times to create a small platform for your castle to be build on.
That may prevent the occasional flooding of your building.

[serene talon]

my house built (too) close to the shore that one night:

[prime wren]

We're gonna try, assuming we have enough land to work with cause I know you can only raise like...

Up to a certain point past where the ground level is generated? If I remember and understand correctly.

[keen cliff]

you can raise 8 meters

or is it 8 blocks?

[pulsar scroll]

What causes server crash errors when playing with friends?

[vocal rivet]

8 metres either way.

[pulsar scroll]

Even though our games are original, we are disconnected from the server

[vocal rivet]

Meters measure things.

[pliant hatch]

It's 8 meters. And that's more than enough to prevent flooding of your building. But if the flooding is the only problem, raising it about half the height would be enough.

However, if you want to have a basement, that one needs to be about 4 meters up and for the wall to support the floor above you will need another 4 meters.

Now here's the fun part.

If you put a stone floor down you can still build the charcoal kiln and smelter in that basement. Even the blast furnace will fit in it, although a small part will stick out of the floor.

To deal with that, build a hearth over the charcoal kiln and smelter and an oven over the blast furnace. That way you will divert the smoke through a new canal, which will then move into the chimney - if you build one - you have to get rid of the smoke of the hearth and oven.

[manic timber]

is 100 fire arrows with a finewood bow enougth for elder ?

[keen cliff]

with my aim, i would double it lol

[merry pebble]

If you hit moderatly often then yes 🙂

[lusty sentinel]

been a month, and a plan to cheat

[jagged wind]

hi been a month

[hearty niche]

Lox tower?

[keen cliff]

lox breeding tower: #screenshots message

[hearty niche]

That's impressive.

It seemed to me that a recent update "broke" breeding towers - I had a really hard time positioning food where they could get to it. I could be wrong about that.

[keen cliff]

food is still a pita for me for wolves, mostly. boars it seems not so bad. chickens it's the easiest so far. lox in that tower is super easy. i just get it in the middle of both of them, though it's a pita to get up to them. luckily a 100 stack of barley lasts forever with lox

[coarse mauve]

Hey how are u guys doing

[austere flame]

any benefits of a singleplayer ward?

[ornate sigil]

It acts like a security system and alerts you when something (a grey dwarf) is attacking (throwing rocks at) your base.

[plush umbra]

Ello

[unreal bear]

what's everyone's general consensus on Major Healing Mead vs Lingering Healing Mead?
I prefer Linger for both stamina and eitr. But I feel like for health I prefer the instant regen of the major healing potion. But I have heard ppl say that the lingering meads are all superior to their instant counterparts. Thoughts?

[heady parcel]

Aaaargh. Can we please have a bit more lenient placement logic when it comes to forge/workbench upgrades? It is borderline impossible to place them in a manner that makes sense, I am constantly forced to move them out in the middle of the floor so they constantly get in the way. And no, I can't put them underground since the workshop IS in the cellar...

[heady parcel]

I think it very much depends on how you play. For me the lingering meads tend to go to waste, while the strong healing meads get used a lot when I bugger up a parry or simply aggro too many mobs at once... When you get sudden spikes of damage healing mead is king. That's just me being bad - but it works for me 😄

Also when you have slid into a trance tending to your crops and an invasion triggers only for you to realise you let the foods drop off - munching down foods and popping a healing mead is a lifesaver.

[unreal bear]

yeah that makes sense. i think instant is best for the healing too.

[heady parcel]

Gods, I manage to place all the forge upgrades pretty decently except one, that will not accept any placement other than just in front of the forge itself. Aaargh!

[mighty elk]

Guys, do a alot of people know that dvergrs from mistlands, know about haldor
i didn't fully see what they where talking about but i saw then say something about haldor

[keen cliff]

lol. using the harpoon on Brenna to pull her into my moat of wolves made me giggle

[open scaffold]

I killed it with 52 so yeah probably

When do you get the stone portal btw?

[coarse mauve]

is the elder the second boss?

[open scaffold]

Yeah

I thought the swamp boss was the 2nd boss until yesterday lol

But elder is 2nd and swamp is 3rd

[coarse mauve]

lmao i went to the swamp a couple of days ago and got demolished

[open scaffold]

It’s scary until you get root armor

[coarse mauve]

how do i get that

[slim imp]

go to the swamp 🤣

[coarse mauve]

lmao

i need help with the portals

[livid zenith]

If you build a portal on a crypt it’s safe from most enemy types

[coarse mauve]

can i build one in a burial chamber

[livid widget]

Not actually sure. I think so?

I think you need a workbench, and can't remember if you can build one inside. I think no, actually

[coarse mauve]

right now im 3 hp i got a wolf on my ass and im far away from home and i dont know what to do

[livid widget]

You must survive.

[coarse mauve]

how 😭

[livid widget]

Eat food.

[coarse mauve]

i paused the game

[livid widget]

I didn't know you could pause the game.

[coarse mauve]

hes litrally behind me

[coarse mauve]

if ur solo ucould i think

[livid widget]

Use dodge and keep running

[coarse mauve]

look at #screenshots

[livid widget]

Looks like you are dying.

Revert to your last save?

[coarse mauve]

its 10 mins ago

i died

[flat jasper]

womp

[keen cliff]

so terraforming is a chill and easy thing to do when i'm watching tv. as i'm fixing my moat i realize, if I just make the moat so wide, that raids spawn inside it, with my wolves, i'm all good

lots of wolves. and they are trapped still in a huge moat, so no running rampant all over the meadow

[spiral gate]

Seems like Ashlands biome is relatively good defense against the events since basically any raid (except Ashlands events) will be completely wiped so quickly by lava and local mobs xD
So... I'm still thinking about the base somewhere there

[keen cliff]

that's smart! Can you plant crops in ashlands?

[spiral gate]

No, but anyway it's required to build portals in different biomes to plant different crops

[vocal rivet]

Most things can be planted in Ashlands.

[spiral gate]

Yeah, but not magecapes, barley or flax.

[vocal rivet]

True. But that's very different to saying you can't plant anything in Ashlands.

[spiral gate]

But at the same time it doesn't make any sense to plant carrots or onions in Ashlands xD

[rotund bay]

you could plant em if you want, your shield gen is running 24/7 anyway if you really wanna base there

also I just learned yesterday that turnips grow in the mistlands through trial and error
neat

[coarse mauve]

will enemies destroy my portal?

[robust delta]

they can go for it if they want

[coarse mauve]

so build around it

[robust delta]

idk about aggro much but if ur far away they may just b-line for structures, or indirectly attack it if ur close (like trolls)

you can if u want. i don't all the time

good excuse for fashion building 😏

[coarse mauve]

exactly lol

why cant i take copper through the portal

[junior tendon]

Metals are un-teleportable on the default settings

[coarse mauve]

is there a glitch or something?

[echo helm]

Can I build my house as tall as I want?

[modern rune]

that's how the game is designed

hence why you should setup bases near the sea

[modern rune]

depends on the material

[robust delta]

nope intended mechanic

[robust delta]

think it can cap out but if u build with stone it prolly gives more stability and therefore more height

[coarse mauve]

my base is near the sea and i could just boat over there but it takes forever

[modern rune]

just make a outpost near the metal mining location

store them there and make a single trip occationally to transport all the metal

[robust delta]

yeah it was annoying at first but i made a mini base near a swamp to get iron armor up and running

[coarse mauve]

yeah i intend to do that after i beat the boss

[robust delta]

i didn't have the option to sail for it to be faster

[echo helm]

@modern rune @robust delta can wood material get above the tree line? I’m early in my first playthrough so I only have wood

[robust delta]

i don't know. i make shoddy shitty houses almost on purpose

[honest rose]

Anybody have any worlds?I can check out

Maybe.
Stream lighter

I want to see some good houses

Xbox

[echo helm]

Lol 😆 I want to build a watch tower kinda house where I can see above the tree line

I’ll attempt it

[robust delta]

it could be plausible

what is y'alls most miserable time in valheim?

think mine was fighting bonemass while it turned night without me realizing and rested buff expired, so i could not regen stam for the life of me lol

[keen cliff]

why not just run and portal home and com eback?

[robust delta]

odin would never approve of cowardice

[keen cliff]

lol

[echo helm]

When a tree fell and I lost like 6 boar I spent an hour catching. But I’m a noob so

[keen cliff]

How about best feeling: killing Moder with my wolves after all the pita it was to get them up the mountain from my base.

[robust delta]

moder still cries

the wolves still howl

[woven sundial]

killing moder is kinda tragic if you think about it

[robust delta]

this is why i stop thinking

[echo helm]

Sniping deer successfully with my bow for the first time lol

[robust delta]

snkeaing for cowards

[echo helm]

I like sneaky arrow from far away

[robust delta]

i chased a deer for 3 minutes 😂

[echo helm]

Satisfying arrow drop

I’ve done that too lol

[prime wren]

Oh my goooodddddd... That was terrible... Just found a village in the plains that had like, 3 berserkers, 4 1 star fulings and 4 two star fulings and like 5 shamans, and a buncha normal gobbos... I just... My crew of four died twice, the second time our portal and long boat were destroyed so we had to make a karve and sail halfway cross the world and do a final raid... we finally cleared it out

[robust delta]

that sound so freakin awesome

if only i was there. call me in like a helldiver 😆

[prime wren]

it was extremely painful but, my crew was satisfied with razing the entire village and salting the fields so nothing would ever grow there again after we killed them all

[robust delta]

i would of been running around screaming for my life while dodging all sorcerer fireballs

or saying "nah i'd win" and crumple against 3 berserkers at once haha

[half dragon]

I've annihilated 30+ villages and unfortunately that is not even the worst I've seen. The absolutely worst village had a crap ton of enemies, but containers barely had any black metal at all

[marble smelt]

hey guys...quick question: After long time of not playing, I would like to try Ashlands. Is current game version well or should I wait for few more patches? It was big update, and that ussually needs few patches to polish - it has been two so far if I count correctly

[harsh ivy]

idk

[azure yacht]

Wait

[merry pebble]

It still needs some polishing but if you want you can start a new world now and by the time you get to ashlands (if you are not speedrunning) it could get some more updates 🙂

[marble smelt]

I am in no rush, I will start playing when its properly patched

[harsh ivy]

i just started new world

like 10 mins ago and i t hink i am ready to kill first boss

[merry pebble]

Well, that Is pretty quick(pretty normal for experienced players but considering that someone didn't play it for a long time still pretty quick 🙂 )

[harsh ivy]

i havent played since christmast

how do i make fire arrows

btw how do i fast drop items from my hand

[merry pebble]

Resin, Wood and feathers in lvl2 workbench i believe

[harsh ivy]

im fighting eikthyr

too late for that info

i killed it ez

[distant field]

If you want to drop something out of your inventory, hit Tab then Ctrl-click the item.

If you just want to unequip your equipped weapon and shield, without removing them from your inventory, just press R.

Or, if you have your weapon and shield on your hotbar, you can unequip them individually by pressing the hotbar key for that item.

[rotund dust]

Tried to kill Yagluth, with my 9 and 12 year old, our skills are now all back to 0, and Yagluth still lives... Those meteors are broken...

[olive vault]

so witch boss do i need to kill to enter the mistlands?

[warm sandal]

yagluth

technically you can go there without kiling yagluth... but it is no fun without the drop you get from that boss fight 😄

[olive vault]

ah okey well time to start my journey to kill him

[rotund dust]

He can't be killed 😭

[olive vault]

well then if he cant be killed then time to start stealing all his stuff from his pockets

[warm sandal]

sure he can be killed i did it many times already 😄 and others did too 😄

it is a matter of learning the pattern and seek shelter if he does invoke those meteors...they are slow you can just walk away ... but they sure hurt a lot if they hit you

[rugged pulsar]

did you made some barley wine? it helps a lot, not only with humor but also it grands fire resistance

also take your time, upgrade gear, get some arrows and meads etc. as a experienced player this is first boss that was actually hard for me

[rotund dust]

If you are moving when he raises his right hand (for meteor) and don't stop moving half the time they still hit you. When he raises left hand, he does fire slam, and raises mouth breath attack. There's barely any time to attack him

[warm sandal]

well he is the 5th boss - he is tough to kill... get best food you can make, and fire resistance mead and use the right weapons (he is resistant to pierce - so maybe not use an atgeir as to not make it harder on yourself?) i usually just use frostner (as that one has blunt and spirit dmg :D) also I usually do it wearing fenris armor (for the speed buff) have been killed by yag in padded armor - to slow to evade the meteors) fenris gives fire resistanc and a speed buff i found that helps me a great deal... be aware though fenris fully upgraded is still light armor so ... no tanking hits from random fulings or such please) 😄

[upper onyx]

hi. I want to start a valheim server with friends. is there a way to block mods i dont want them to play and how do i prevent them from joining with op chars and or equipment from other save games. is there a way to stop them from using the config manager
ah. and what mods would you guys recommend to me to use
we are about 10 players

[olive vault]

if you just tell em not to use mods and to make new characters that would probebly solve a lot of trying to set up

[warm sandal]

hm... i dunno if it is just me, but if you have to try to stop them from doing those things other than telling them "Let's agree on not cheating, make a fresh charakter and do not bring stuff from other games!" I would think twice about playing with them at all... just my 2 ct... no offense intended

[hard gale]

Playing with 10 people, it's always gonna be hard to have everyone on the same page

[nova cape]

if you want some help, I'm happy to join with plains (or higher) gear (https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1266907563937632276), just DM me

[echo helm]

Do trees respawn in the same place when outside my workbench area?

And when I upgrade workbench level does it increase range?

[odd helm]

Trees don't respawn

But yes, workbench range is increased with upgrades

[half dragon]

in general mods do not work unless everyone has it. For the most part, you can only mod how things look to you and do not affect anybody else (if nobody else has it)

Of course, cheats exist like wall hacks and aim bots, but this isn't exactly FPS game

if that person suddenly starts flying without permission, move extra fast, kill everything in 1 hit, be invulnerable ect. then that's no longer a mere mod

[hot bolt]

The biggest fault of this game is how it handles mods

There at a minimum should be a setting to restrict all mods or not.

[half dragon]

that's not a thing...

there is absolutely nothing you can do to stop somebody from editing their own files

[hot bolt]

Other games have done it

[half dragon]

that's called anti cheat...

that's not just a mod

[nocturne wolf]

Mods aren’t officially supported so unless that changes there’s not much Iron Gate can do

[hot bolt]

Every time I play with people and are no mods I find out later they were

Kind of ruins it a little for me

[fair cairn]

stop playing with liars then

[half dragon]

and what did those mods even do?

[hot bolt]

Auto deposit items in chests

[half dragon]

🤦‍♂️

[hot bolt]

Auto place farming

Auto pick up a million crops

[half dragon]

none of which affect the gameplay negatively... if you want to spend more time doing that crap that's a you thing

[hot bolt]

It does impact. I can place one crop at a time they can place 50. In competing play that is cheating

Forcing me to use mods to keep up

[half dragon]

why do you need to keep up PLANTING STUFF?

it's not a god damn competition

[hot bolt]

Missing the point. This isn’t a debate

[nocturne wolf]

The point is that the other player lied about using mods

[half dragon]

doesn't seem that way...

[hot bolt]

Point is only the game sucks at controlling mods and no one can deny that

If you do then you’re probably one of the liers

[half dragon]

if I do what? you're not exactly making that clear

[prime wren]

Jeeez no need to throw an accusation. If you want to play Vanilla and those other folks lied to you when you asked about mods directly that sucks but no need to call others liars

[cerulean nexus]

i can

eu posso, precisando de ajuda com o que?

[slim imp]

that message was from 2 months ago

[livid zenith]

Better late than never I guess

[wintry panther]

they are going way back to see if someone said something that doesn't match with today standard to cancel them.

[slim imp]

it's just someone asking for help and another person trying to help, although a bit too late

[sharp bluff]

reads some culture war bs, which can stay in yankistan

[cerulean nexus]

yes bro, i know

[rocky gust]

It's the internet
It has far more reach than you may think
Someone else might see it and join 😌

[vocal rivet]

See what?

[rocky gust]

The message and go like
Oh hey he is from Brazil
Let me ping him and ask if he wanna play

[open scaffold]

I found the may pole in an abandoned village

Is it possible to move it?

[slim imp]

no

[open scaffold]

I guess I’ll just leave it then. Looks pretty cool

[warped mica]

i think thats a rare sighting

[slim imp]

it gives 1 extra comfort, similar to other furniture

[warped mica]

i could be wrong tho

[slim imp]

it is, not many in each world

[sharp bluff]

its pretty rare out of season

[open scaffold]

Yeah I think so. Saw it on a yt short one time

[warped mica]

now i know lol

[slim imp]

depending on the time of the year you can build them

[open scaffold]

During may?

[frozen void]

many worlds dont have them, some might have 1 or a couple

you can build them in june

[open scaffold]

Cool

[warped mica]

ive never seen 1 before

i have seen countless other rare stuff tho like 2 star troll the fish caves

[open scaffold]

I just got the game a week ago

[warped mica]

oh nice i got the game like a year or 2 ago

[open scaffold]

It’s been chill

Made a server to play with the homies. We did a little test world and decided to crank up the resources to 2x cuz everything feels like kind of a grind otherwise

[sharp bluff]

dont forget to x1.5 your carry capacity when doing that xd

[warped mica]

i tried to use a mod with my friends but it didnt work in the long run so we just gave up it was like a farming mod

[open scaffold]

I didn’t know u could do that. Just been using carts

Yeah we’re just doing vanilla

[warped mica]

find merchant and get the belt

just for a little extra capacity

[open scaffold]

I want that belt

Haven’t found the merchant yet tho

[warped mica]

oh dang i was traveling with my buds and i checked my map and i saw the merchant symbol

then found his sister or smth not far away

[open scaffold]

Cool cool

I love the sailing. Just got iron so I’m probably gonna make a longship soon

[warped mica]

nice i would carry arrows on boat rides in case serpents

[open scaffold]

Yeah

A serpent attacked us on our last iron deposit run and got the karve down to like 40% hp

Close call got hella meat though

[warped mica]

yeah serpent always good i used it for boss fights during like moder time and bonemass

[open scaffold]

I guess I have to upgrade my cooking pot cuz I don’t see a recipe for the serpent food

[slim imp]

serpent stew is level 2 cauldron

[open scaffold]

Made the spice rack

Do u have to cook it first?

[slim imp]

requires cooking the serpent meat too, which means you need iron

[warped mica]

yeah you gotta cook it

[open scaffold]

You need the iron cooking thing for serpent?

[frozen void]

ye

[clever saffron]

Does the valheim vr mod still work as of now

[frozen void]

that'd be a question for #mods-discussion probably

[tender bronze]

Valheim anyone?

[frozen void]

#1024264966712340510

[autumn flax]

hat do I do when Moder killed me and I'm currently running away from wolves, drakes, Golems AND Moder trying to reclaim my body with insufficent gear?

Well, it wasn't Moder that killed me but a 2 star wolf that spawned in the middle of the fight

[half dragon]

Uhh.... keep trying? Not much else that can be done. Just make sure you have cold protection

[edgy monolith]

anyone got any tips for bonemass?

[half dragon]

it should not be impossible if you just bait enemies away from your corpse little by little, even if it takes multiple deaths

[autumn flax]

Don't bother making anything else than an iron mace. Anything else is pointless

[half dragon]

^

[autumn flax]

"pointless" might be a funny term for it, but you get the idea. Pointy things are what you DON'T want

[half dragon]

poison protection also a must for bonemass

[autumn flax]

And a flat area where you can walk. No point in being chased by leeches, trying to walk/swim

[coarse mauve]

should i go to the swamp after killing the second boss

[autumn flax]

When does Moder despawn anyway? Am I at the risk of loosing all my eggs that i found?

[fair cairn]

i dont think she ever despawns unless killed

[edgy monolith]

appreciate it guys, a lot of wasted time saved

[fair cairn]

after killing elder and getting the aptly named swamp key yes

[coarse mauve]

ok thx

[hot bolt]

Is there a way to cancel a drawn bow? besides just unequipping it?

[nocturne wolf]

Block

[hot bolt]

ahh

ty

[jagged wind]

or change ur weapon

but thats basically unequipping it

[open scaffold]

Are you able to change your characters name?

[vocal rivet]

I think https://geekstrom.de/valheim/fch/ still works, but obviously make a backup first.

[keen cliff]

hmm. trying to undermine a big pillar in the plains, but i guess it doesn't work like silver where you can get it out of the dirt, and then whack it and have it all fall down?

[plush umbra]

everything that's made up of fragments can shatter to gravity like that, but the boxes used to determine whether or not the object is actually floating don't match the visible or feelable fragments in shape, so if it doesn't shatter, it's still invisibly connected to the ground somewhere.

[keen cliff]

okay, thanks. i'll try to clear it more from the ground

victory!

7.5 stacks of stone, not bad

[chilly niche]

I hate Ashland

[azure yacht]

Humanity would probably ascend to godhood the second people start using their time to solve their clearly easily solvable issues rather than complain about them

[latent berry]

skol on that

[south geyser]

i think i accidently glitched the game, i had the megingjord and i died and when i picked up my body i can now carry 600kg instead of 450

[plush umbra]

corpse run gives you 150 more kg of carryweight

(wasn't always like that)

[south geyser]

ohhhhhhh

[plush umbra]

can be a little dangerous 😅 allows auto-pickup to vacuum up items that would bring you beyond 450 kg, then corpse run runs out and you're just suddenly over-encumbered, that's killed me at least once

[sharp raptor]

Gives you 150 kg of carry weight for a limited time. I kinda wish they hadnt added that because you can pick up your stuff but once the timer runs out suddenly your overburdened and surrounded by enemies so manage your inventory asap in those situations.

[south geyser]

Yea gotcha thx

[autumn flax]

Is it normal that the fight against Moder is also a fight against multiple golems, drakes and wolves?

[plush umbra]

if a rock or tree is damaged while a player is within some distance of it, it makes 100 meters of noise, drawing everything around the area over to investigate

sometimes mountains are uneven enough that said enemies can't quite reach you, other times you're less lucky 😅

i'd recommend trying to make sure areas are very clear of enemies before a boss fight but that's not 100% reliable, maybe you did that already

[autumn flax]

That really makes bossfights more challenging and dynamic, especially when I can barely retrieve my stuff, being chased by ALL the mountain 😂

[plush umbra]

ouch 😅
at least in mountains you can sometimes take advantage of golems beind hostile towards all other mountain enemies. especially useful if there's a drake around - depending on the terrain, they can be stuck fighting each other pretty much forever as the drake can't damage the golem, and the golem can't reach the drake.
if you try to do this, keep in mind that enemies always target the opponent closest to them, updating that every couple seconds

[autumn flax]

Got rid of all of them, just Moder is no problem with my fang-spear and scale-shield. But it was a long way to get there, especially with Moder blasting away my portalsä

By the Gods, it is over, it is finally done...

[coarse mauve]

i hate the swamps

[gaunt galleon]

Any opinions on best pvp servers?

[vocal rivet]

You might be able to find some at #1024264966712340510 . Though it isn't really a PvP game.

[pastel harbor]

send you something! lol

[robust delta]

swamp is pretty swampy true

[smoky steppe]

what is required to summon the first boss, i looked online and saw some say 2 deer trophies, some say 3, idk

[livid zenith]

It’s 2

[smoky steppe]

ok thanks

[sleek tree]

so uhhhhh...how am i supposed to get the serpant scales if they sink??

[rocky gust]

The mist lands is very misty 👍

[rocky gust]

Give them a YOINK

[robust delta]

when the plains are moving 😨

[livid zenith]

Harpooning a serpent to shore is my usual strategy

[sleek tree]

i was at shore, apparently not far enough in

[fallow lantern]

has anyone got a working wood farm using greydwarf spawner without the use of pufferfish or needing fenris claws? something you can make early game?

[livid zenith]

If you jump from a high elevation you’ll fall pretty deep into the water before you rise to the surface (and can grab things that are at the bottom)

[slim imp]

when you fall from a height, you sink underwater, the higher you fall from the lower you can get: Build a ramp/stairs and jump from them to get where the scales fell

besides that you can harpoon the serpent inland if a shallow enough shore isn't available

might require a lot of stamina

[rocky gust]

Plains move?

[robust delta]

no, well unless earthquakes but that's a cheap shot. i was just trying to mix black forest and plains, though it wasn't as funny as i thought

[crimson cradle]

LONG LIVE THE QUEEN

we finally beat her

[open scaffold]

Got raided by trolls for the first time

But I have an iron atgier so it worked out

[rocky gust]

Plains get earthquakes???

[hazy wadi]

ugh i'm so demoralized. I've been careful with this character but have died so many times today. so much for my skills. :/

[robust delta]

no. i yield my time 😔

[amber torrent]

guys can i play with someone on steam while i have the game from game pass?

[nocturne wolf]

Yes, by sharing a join code. If the steam player is hosting they’ll need to enable crossplay

[amber torrent]

alrigh thank you

[smoky steppe]

do ores still have gravity?

i mined under the copper and it is just floating

[nocturne wolf]

There needs to be some distance between the copper and any other objects/terrain

[smoky steppe]

there is

[nocturne wolf]

Now break part of the copper for the rest to go with it

If it doesn’t work something is too close

[smoky steppe]

there is no way there is something too close ive done it before

[nocturne wolf]

That’s the only thing that could stop it from working

[pliant hatch]

You will need at least 2 meters distance between the copper vein and the surrounding area.
And often that gap is closed by a tiny bit by a tree or a boulder at the outside of the terrain at the bottom.

So either you mine out the area around it a bit more, destroy all trees and boulders to make sure that area is free, or you mine a bit of the bottom of the copper vein to make sure the bottom of it is free for more than 2 meters.

[smoky steppe]

it defo is, but ill keep trying

[fair cairn]

also do keep in mind the copper wont explode by itself eitherway

you gotta after cleairng everything around it, still mine some of the copper deposit

[smoky steppe]

do caves replenish sunder cores

and if so how often

[tepid pike]

I assume you mean surtling cores, and no, they don't

[smoky steppe]

dang

[vital harness]

Do turnips grow in meadows?

[silk rivet]

Yes

[vital harness]

tnx

[rocky gust]

Go to swamp
If u need more

[feral venture]

yo i just found the deep north wtf is that i thought ashlands was the final biome

[robust delta]

surprise

[azure yacht]

Current final

And it's always been there

[feral venture]

when are they adding something to it?

[merry pebble]

we dont know 🙂

[feral venture]

and also how tf do i find ashlands? is it like a nether portal from minecraft or what becuase its nowhere on my map

[merry pebble]

go south, you will find them eventualy 🙂

[feral venture]

ah damn im on the wrong side of the map

[rocky gust]

Same

[proper prism]

Did they remove the ability to see the seed on a dedicated server that’s not yours? 🤔

[feral venture]

does boat mats drop when its destroyed?

[sharp bluff]

ye

nails sink to the bottom tho, so be careful about that

[feral venture]

ok imma see if i can recover the nails if not i dot really care have plenty of iron

[vital harness]

I'm stuck in a structure

[fallen zephyr]

How is it that there's such poor alignment among the cross-material 26°/45° pieces?! 26° is 26°, it's not subjective.

[lean zephyr]

Can I download mods for this game on Xbox?

[distant field]

Have you tried logging out and back in again?

[fallen zephyr]

https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1202934289898151966 Nobody here knows anything.

[distant field]

What do you mean?

[modern rune]

Man

[manic timber]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eeJbXSQnDE&list=PLCVRaFAsD4Nk5rFwUyB9R58skJ4Q0YUES&index=3

is this good for an big base?

im looking to keep one for a long time like im at bonemass rn and i want one till the end

will this one last or will i need to expand ?

[modern rune]

Also how do you fight fenring

[fair cairn]

fenrings? uhm the ones int he caves or the ones that spawn at night in the mountains?

[fallen zephyr]

Wood-Iron beams and grausten rooves. #screenshots message

[distant field]

Hmm. Not used those together. And that screenshot is too dark for me.

[modern rune]

The one outside

[fair cairn]

i actually just fight them like i would anyother thing with a level 4 iron mace and a silver shield

[fallen zephyr]

Ashlands is dark. Always dark. Always hot. The ash in the air penetrates my lungs. I remember when the game was fun; now it feels like a chore.

[distant field]

They are weak to spirit, iirc.

[modern rune]

Okey

[distant field]

Oh, I know. Could it be a curved vs flat issue?

[modern rune]

Also drake hunting

I'm guessing using huntsman bow with fire arrows?

[fair cairn]

they are? i cant remember

[merry pebble]

they are neutral to spirit

but they do take it

[distant field]

I did say “iirc”.

[modern rune]

It's funny how a mosquitoes is more dangerous than a real dragon in this game

[distant field]

Yeah, bow. Fire arrows are good, from what I recall. But just whatever you have good access to that will do the most damage most efficiently.

[modern rune]

Also does plain raids include mosquitoes

[vital harness]

yes

[serene talon]

sadly not

[modern rune]

Oh thank god

I don't want random raids to have mosquitoes and i just havr zero counter with them

[fallen zephyr]

Deathsquitoes are 'very weak' to block/parry.

[distant field]

Are you playing on a server? You may need to use dev commands. Or find a way to clip through the structure.

[merry pebble]

if you use root harnesk they are laughably easy to deal with 🙂

[modern rune]

Problem is i suck at parry

💀

[fallen zephyr]

But seriously, you don't even need to parry. Just block. The next swing is adequate.

[modern rune]

Bow main you see
How do i train parry

[distant field]

If bow main, shoot them from a distance.

[modern rune]

Also how is bow danage calculated in this game
Bow damage + the arrow damage?

[distant field]

Yes

[vernal cobalt]

press right click just before they hit you most of the mob attacks until ashlands are telegraphed pretty well so you don't really need to train it, at least from my experience

[fallen zephyr]

I always read 'bow main' as someone that's levelling politeness and respect. "If I let them know they're valued, they won't try and kill me..." 😛

[fallen zephyr]

Telegraphing is there, sure, but the parry window is not as wide as the 'wind up' to a mob's swing.

Also, I have no idea how you would level parry when you only use a ranged weapon.

[vernal cobalt]

i mean, can't you block with ranged weapons same way as with mage staves?

[modern rune]

I do have abyssal razor

Already found another 2 leviathan for me to level up it to lv 4

[fallen zephyr]

I'm not at a crafting bench, but I would presume that any weapon that has a 'block value' can block. Shields would obviously be best at it. I'm not sure how block/parry with a bow compares to a sword/mace/etc.

[sharp bluff]

its completely awful

[vernal cobalt]

then go back a biome with a buckler and a mace/sword depending on where you are in the progression and lvl those block and melee skills

[sharp bluff]

bows have like 15% of the block the melee weapons of their tier have

[proper prism]

Deathsquitos are probably the easiest mob in plains to handle if you just have a shield

Right click then oneshot it

[open scaffold]

Is the personal chest like an ender chest from Minecraft or just a locked one?

[merry pebble]

just locked one

[slim imp]

doesn't have a lot of slots either

[devout tinsel]

I just found a deep canyon thing lol

[hard gale]

does thistle regrow like berries n mushrooms do?

[fair cairn]

they respawn yes

[fallen zephyr]

Does thistle respawn at the same rate as berries and mushrooms?

[fair cairn]

idd guess yes but im not sure about that

[half dragon]

at least seems like they respawn roughly the same rate

I have berries, thistles and shrooms mixed in "farming" trails and they seem to respawn about the same time

never seen a situation where one of those specific resources would be missing from the trail when I go around picking them up

(created a trail with hoe to mark an optimal path between larger batches of gatherable resources)

although, they do seem to respawn in different way, a little bit? The rate seems like same, but there is this weird mechanism for those resources to appear. Even if on paper it has respawned, it usually takes some time for the world to generate it

not an issue if you visit the area occasionally and don't go there pick them up when you do, but the first time you go there after it has respawned it does not appear to be there, gotta be a little patient for them to appear...

[hard gale]

shrodingers respawn?

[half dragon]

kinda 😂

takes an observer to make that wave function collapse.

[modern rune]

bro

random deadsquito just oneshot me on a longship

[nocturne wolf]

That's why you should always eat while sailing
And don't go anywhere near plains if you're not ready

[modern rune]

and now i don't even know if i can get the longshipback

[half dragon]

they do enjoy doing their drive bys...

[modern rune]

i can't cope with this anymore

[nocturne wolf]

Do you have materials for a new boat?

[modern rune]

no

[half dragon]

no 5 iron?

[nocturne wolf]

If it's close you could even use a raft

[modern rune]

lacking in deerskin for basic karve

[nocturne wolf]

Hunt some deer then

[half dragon]

if got a bow very simple to hunt them

[modern rune]

i hate those mosquitoes so much

[nocturne wolf]

Flint knife is very cheap and effective too

[half dragon]

I'd rather use a spear than knife

that throw attack is really good for hunting when you learn it

[nocturne wolf]

I use the throw attack to aggro all the boars at a boar rune before they can walk away

[distant field]

Sounds like it might be a job for the Body [and Boat] Recovery Squad…

[nocturne wolf]

Or a backup if you really don't want to get it back
(This is what I did when I discovered deathsquitos )

[half dragon]

Just nuke the plains, ez. Death to all deathsquitos

[hard gale]

[modern rune]

who tf in the right mind think that giving range mob the ability to attack when swimming

is a good idea bruh teh fuling killed me twice

i hate this game so much

[fair cairn]

sorry to say but dont go swimming with enemies nearby

[modern rune]

i literally went the to recover my stuff

how is it fair they can range attack when swimming and we can't do stuff

not to mention they have infinite stamina

[fair cairn]

i figured out they can range arrack when i was attacked bya grewdwarf in the water and have avoided the water 90% of the time

[modern rune]

imma just get another seed and hope the map generation won't fuck me over when they ask me to cross the plains to get to the bonemass boss

[fair cairn]

most of the time swamps are coastal so make sure your not taking the long way through

also each world should ahve multiple boss spawns for each boss

[modern rune]

yeah but like

all teh dungeon point to that place

[vocal rivet]

Yeah, there are 5 Bonemass altars.

[fair cairn]

they point to the nearest boss spawn

[hard gale]

wooo valheim is the first game on steam ive logged 400 hours on

[fair cairn]

congrats

i think i just played too many games

i have quite a few games with more than 200 and more with over 500 then then i get to warthunder and its a astonishing 5300 hours

[sharp bluff]

my hours are spread evenly as well, and then there is terraria, sitting at 1k+ hours

[severe phoenix]

Damn i got 1.2k in terraria

[royal linden]

If I added up every hour from every game I've played,, wonder how many zeros i'd need

hello all; brand new to discord and i'm wondering how the servers are for Valheim, looking to try some multi\

[merry pebble]

you can look through servers in #1024264966712340510 🙂

[royal linden]

gratzi

[heavy aurora]

hey, my friend and i were playing on the prt before ashlands and would like to keep playing, our world shws up fine as does my character, but his does not. looking in back ups theres backups for his charater but they dont seem to work, it does not display any error message, hes just not able to see or select his character.

[summer sedge]

Hi everyone i just joined

[fair cairn]

stop posting the same messege to multiple channels

[languid snow]

yo

who is lord reto

[azure yacht]

https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Lord_Reto

[languid snow]

OH NO HES VERY STONG

why is he so strong!

[nocturne wolf]

Because he’s a miniboss?

He has low knockback resistance so you can easily kill him by using mace secondary to repeatedly push him away

[merry pebble]

he is a miniboss of the penultimate biome 😄

[grand ravine]

i stumbled across him, and noped right back out

[nocturne pasture]

Jesus, The Queen is one of the worst fights I ever experienced in video gaming history. I play for 30 years games.

after 1h we had to stop because her regen were faster than we could deal dmg. maybe with better weapons its more fun

[grand ravine]

hmm. what weapons were you using?

[nocturne pasture]

Frostner

[grand ravine]

why not mistlands weapons..?

[half dragon]

That would be the reason why... you were using a weapon from not just previous biome but the one before that.

[jagged wind]

bruh.. that's mountain tier weapon.. and the spirit dmg doesn't even apply to her 😅

[azure yacht]

You were using a weapon that is two tiers below the tier the boss is at...

Literally the game's problem clearly

[tidal cloak]

cool, 100 scrap metal got deleted because of the incredibly stupid choice to make the first person to enter a servers chunk the server host

the person left the game, and it caused the forges and everything to still accept my materials but not get flled

whats the point of a dedicated server if its not the host of the server?

im so upset

[vocal rivet]

It runs 24/7.

[tidal cloak]

that took forever to mine

[nocturne pasture]

well i thought its imba and the slow helped me a lot in Mistlands

still I think its a very bad boss especially if you are 2. 80% of the time you try to find him in the mist, kiting 1000 adds, caring for rested buff and bonemass and 120k hp. I think 50k is enough to be it still fair

the lack of keeping aggro mechanic is awful too. clearly not a multiplayer game

[vocal rivet]

It's not, correct.

[nocturne pasture]

its who ever made most dmg, isnt it?

[vocal rivet]

Also, who has 120k HP?

[grand ravine]

the queen fight is fine, if you have mistlands gear. i did it with a friend, and it was fine.

if you're using old gear then you're definitely not ready to move to the next biome. as it is the queen is just a taste of what's coming after. so figure it out, or your next complaint will be the entire ashlands biome...

[ashen geyser]

is it worth upgrading the frostner if it only upgrades the frost damage? and why is that? shouldn't upgrade the blunt and spirit aswell?

[nocturne pasture]

the queen 12.500 Health

[grand ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/figure-it-out-catch-gif-15130237

[vocal rivet]

Exactly.

[nocturne pasture]

oh put a zero too much

how much is it if you are two?

need like 400 bolts of carapace to kill her

[nocturne wolf]

She has a pierce resistance

[nocturne pasture]

and I dont have a pain in the ass resistance

[grand ravine]

i personally think so, yes. frostner has a lot of uses all over the world, it's worth investing in imho

[nocturne wolf]

It’s best to melee her or use elemental magic. Don’t use blood magic as your main source of damage, doing that caused my only death to a boss (you run out of eitr very fast because skeletons are stupid).

[nocturne pasture]

Frostner was fine against Ashland warriors too

another reason why I thought its fine against Queen too

[silver citrus]

Hello all, I looking for a group of people to play with, ive made it to the mistlands on 2 separate play throughs and am looking to start fresh with a group and go to the ashlands.

[ashen geyser]

yeah but it only upgrades the frost from 40 to 46 and block force from 30 to 35

[grand ravine]

have you even made/tried mistlands gear...?

[nocturne pasture]

but i guess i have to take two hand Hammer now

[nocturne wolf]

It’ll also increase the durability significantly

[nocturne pasture]

my armor is msitlands lvl 2 carapace

[grand ravine]

imean you don't have to, it's up to you. but i do upgrade it. if you use it a lot it's worth

[nocturne pasture]

and my buddy was spammming ice whle I tried everything

i only upgrades it 2 times because i found 3 veins in one.

so more like a luxory early upgrade

[elder cave]

hey chat do any of you know if i add a mod that add's ,more creatures and i later dont like it can i remove it from the list of mods without breaking the world?

[ashen geyser]

i upgraded, but i mean its weird it only uprades frost dmg but blunt and spirit stay the same

[languid snow]

i got the sword

[ember kraken]

I've used Frostner to kill Queen, and it worked just fine. It did more damage than the other 1 handed options I had available relative to my weapon skills. Since spears are pretty horrible against her, and I didn't want to give up shield. Use the Alt attack a lot.

[grand ravine]

🤷‍♂️ i don't think it's that weird, not everything should be linear. some things later get a new dmg type after upgrading

[ember kraken]

All over, I'd rather Frostner upgraded Frost over Blunt, it separates it from most other weapons, and there's not much that resists frost.

Part of why the weapon is so useful for as long as it is.

[nocturne pasture]

til the Queen

and after that again

[ember kraken]

I used it to kill queen and used it into Ashlands. Though I should probably upgrade there.

[nocturne wolf]

Right now the main reason to use porcupine instead of frostner is because frostner has very low stagger. If the blunt damage increased the frostner’s stagger would increase too.

[nocturne pasture]

how you dealt with all the adds that come with Queen?

[ember kraken]

Mostly by dodging or running back, swapping to demolisher and smash them, before swapping back to frostner for the boss.

[ashen geyser]

on what difficulty?

[smoky steppe]

do troll caves respawn?

[ember kraken]

Normal. Haven't bothered trying hard in mist/ash yet.

[nocturne wolf]

Only the mushrooms will respawn, nothing else

[smoky steppe]

dang

i need to kill one more troll to get the cape then ill have all 4

[ember kraken]

I've also done queen and ash with magic, and felt that was about equal to using frostner personally. Though I do have higher club skill than magic skills.

[nocturne wolf]

It’s best to spend that trollhide to upgrade armor if you don’t have it at level 3 yet
Unless you really want the set bonus, the cape is useless

[nocturne pasture]

how you manage all the dmg and knockback and poison?

[smoky steppe]

i do want the set bonus

[ember kraken]

I would probably have swapped to mistwalker in mistlands, if my sword skill wasn't in single digit. :p (my least used weapon type, together with crossbow)

[nocturne wolf]

If you used the mistwalker you could’ve changed that

[ember kraken]

I realised I didn't want to start from scratch on sword in mistlands, I'd rather start a new game with the character and use sword in say bronze etc and learn it up through the game.

And my club skill was already in the 90's, so I did more damage with frostner than mistwalker anyways.

[nocturne wolf]

I’ve never had a weapon skill in 90s. I don’t die often, they just never get that high throughout a playthrough.

[ember kraken]

I'm not saying frostner is the best weapon ever against queen. Just saying it does the job well enough, that I didn't have a problem with it.

[nocturne pasture]

then i dont understand how we failed, ah, I didnt use Demolisher

and how is the multiplayer scaling per player for a boss? 0? 2x Hp?

[nocturne wolf]

I think it’s +40% health per player

[ember kraken]

Poison resistance mead naturally, also mostly positioning, kiting, and dodging most of the attacks (using blocks more as a safety if I screw up the dodge timing). I learned to position myself and read the tells on the spit attack so I could dodge away behind something (edge, pillars etc), to avoid most of the spit.

[nocturne pasture]

so its more elden Ring gameplay than

[nocturne wolf]

Unless you have a buckler, blocking a boss’ attacks is usually best because it saves the most stamina

[ember kraken]

In general, I never find it worthwhile to block bosses, always dodge.

[smoky steppe]

what even does the set bonus do, and is the +15 sneak per piece a good ammount, idk if thats a lot or not

[nocturne wolf]

+15 sneak is the set bonus, individual pieces only have defence

[smoky steppe]

is that a lot tho

[nocturne wolf]

Not particularly. You’ll notice a difference but it’s not huge

[smoky steppe]

i see

then if i shouldnt make the cape what cape should i make instead

[ember kraken]

You where playing it coop with a friend right? And they used magic? Ask them to use the fire staff, and save mana to use it to wipe out adds/spawns, to let you focus on dodging and damage. That helps a lot.

[nocturne pasture]

he had ice staff

its good too but very low level

[ember kraken]

Tbh, you don't really need a cape until mountain. Capes give very little defense, and is generally not worth upgrading unless you just happened to have the materials already. (1,2,3,4 at max). If you don't care for the set bonus, the deer cape is identical. And even just skipping it is a single defence.

[smoky steppe]

yeah but 1 defense could be the difference between 1 hp and 0

i am going to make the cape just for the set bonus then, is there any easy way to find and farm trolls? im using the finewood bow with fire arrows

[ember kraken]

Ah, don't remember how the heck the armour vs damage math works in this game. But if you craft the other 3 troll pieces you should have defense 18 already, I'd much rather spend extra troll pieces upgrading those for +2 defence each upgrade.

[nocturne wolf]

It’s best to make the cape after you have full level 3 armor