valheim-chat

[gray sand]

This is why I think the Ashlands having enemies everywhere that you can just cut a swathe through is perfect.

[buoyant reef]

Early archery picks up a lot when you get finewood because crude bow has reduced accuracy if I recall correctly

[gray sand]

Because at this stage of the game you are a warrior of doom.

[plush umbra]

it does feel like the natural progression of things

[gray sand]

But alas... over nerfage incoming...

[plush umbra]

Mistlands was all about mystery and uncovering secrets and creeping through ruins and discovering magic, Ashlands is you've finally had enough with the tenth world's crap

[gray sand]

Berserker Axes are so much fun.

[plush umbra]

I wonder what the Deep North's "feel" will be... extreme survivalism I imagine

[buoyant reef]

Anyway the thing about the Bows skill that's crazy to me is reducing drawback speed by up to 80%.
Taking 20% of the time to drawback is literally 5x DPS (granted it's also 5x arrows used so you need more materials to maintain it)

But on top of that you're getting up to 33% reduced stamina cost and up to 141% more arrow damage
So in total between base skill and max level you're getting up to 12.05x as much damage from arrows
Whereas all other skills are only up to 2.41x as much damage

[plush umbra]

Environmental dangers

[gray sand]

40% less visibility than Mistlands because snowy. 😏

60% more mining than Black Forest because we need Bronze 2.0 in the last biome.

[novel turtle]

how do i get vineberry seeds?

[gray sand]

80% larger boast because single player game needs and 18 person ship.

[sharp raptor]

Random chance when picking vineberries

[buoyant reef]

Bows have a drawback of 2.5s, and at max level gets reduced by 80% resulting in 0.5s drawback
It could be rescaled to base 2.0s and -75% at max level resulting in the same 0.5s drawback
Or it could be rescaled to base 1.5s and -66.67% at max level again resulting in 0.5s drawback
Or it could be rescaled to base 1.0s and -50% at max level also resulting in 0.5s drawback

[sharp raptor]

Eventually youi'll be feeding vineberry seed to the obliterator but the first few are nice finds

[buoyant reef]

Of course it doesn't need to be super extreme. I think the second one would make bows feel much better in the earlygame. 2.0s drawback speed and reduced by up to 75% at max level. Makes the base drawback 20% faster than now without changing the max level.

[plush umbra]

I know there's a concern about fairness to singleplayer players in regards to adding rowing to boats but it's kind of funny that one of the primary innovations of a medieval galley ship specifically intended to avoid the doldrums has no bearing in this specifically viking game lmao

I'm a singleplayer myself but I still think it would be a neat addition. Maybe make it so singleplayer players can hang shields on the oar slots instead

[gray sand]

MP has 100% uptime on Moder. They don't need any more concessions.

[plush umbra]

Lmao true

Multiple Moder powers is unfair in and of itself

[buoyant reef]

It's probably good enough as it is but it still bothers me a bit because it's now how I'd design it if I were a designer. If I were designing I'd do the 2.0s drawback thing, but I'd also lower the damage scaling of the bows skill from 141% to maybe 71%, and then increase the damage scaling between different tiers of bow to make upgrading them more worthwhile. Maybe also lower the damage scaling of arrows slightly as well and redistribute the damage across the different tiers of bows for the same reason.

Statistical damage gain considered, the bow's upgrades and scaling between tiers should be higher because the arrow damage will somewhat even out the gap, rather than lower like it is now.

[gray sand]

MP Ashlands is 100% uptime on Bonemass...

[plush umbra]

It's always funny to me watching those big groups of small youtube personalities scream and fumble into darkness in situations singleplayer players have to master on their own with grace and dignity

But goofy nonsense is 90% of the fun of multiplayer games

[azure yacht]

Something simpler:

Remove all damage from bows and add it to arrows only.

Skill only affects accuracy, drawback time and stamina consumption. Numbers can be increased or decreased as compensation for the decreased damage. Bows also affects drawback and stamina consumption

[plush umbra]

hrm...

[obtuse granite]

thanks. so pre much theres no way to have good health good stam good eitrr

can only have 2 of the 3

[gray sand]

That would be boring.
Player choice is far more interesting and engaging.

[gray sand]

You don't even get 2, not really.

Like running HSS is a Stamina-focused build that has 1 Health food just so you don't get instakilled.

[obtuse granite]

wouldnt say thats boring id say its just balanced needs to be tweaked again

[gray sand]

HHS being Health-focused with 1 Stamina so you can still fight things.

[gray sand]

If there was a way to max all 3 stats it would be the only food configuration anyone ever used as there would be no point to running anything else, ever.
That's boring 🤷‍♂️

[obtuse granite]

not max just a semi decent amount of each

[gray sand]

"Decent" is subjective to the individual.

[obtuse granite]

if i wanna use magic i cant get hit more than once if i can even be hit once

if i want health i cant get magic

[gray sand]

Huh?

Health is essential to melee.

[obtuse granite]

i edited

[gray sand]

Well yeah.

How many games let you be a DPS while running tanky?

Mages are massive damage dealers.
They don't get health.

That's like... been the standard of gaming since the year began with "19xx"

[plush umbra]

I do mostly melee but I still try to go for a higher stam bar anyway, I watch my footing and go for parries and I never get staggered unless I'm careless

I do like the sort of elder scrolls/runescape trifecta of health for melee, stam for rogueish melee, eitr for magic though, the choice is much more interesting

A mixed bag is still possible you just won't be supremely powerful at any tactic

[gray sand]

HSS melee builds are so much fun if you know the line of what you can parry and what you have to dodge.

[plush umbra]

I'm too nervous lmfao I miscalculate dangerous enemy attacks a little too often

I like to know I can tank a nasty blow once in a while

[azure yacht]

All magic is ranged, if you're getting hit at all then you can guess what is happening

[gray sand]

Run SSS and just roll everywhere 😉

[plush umbra]

Ah the Dark Souls experience

And yeah it bears mentioning magic is pretty powerful in Valheim, literally lobbing environment-destroying clusters of fireballs and stuff like that, going full mage is completely valid

[gray sand]

Full mage?
You mean the fabled EEE build? 😛

[plush umbra]

It also-also bears mentioning Valheim is a tough game and you're going to die now and then no matter what you do

[plush umbra]

I can't even imagine the gall, literal glass cannon

[gray sand]

115 / 95 / 270 H/S/E

[plush umbra]

That's not too bad

Not much of a sprinter though lmao

[gray sand]

95 Stamina is just... 🤮

[plush umbra]

Literally just a fuling shaman shuffling around

https://tenor.com/view/walk-away-sad-grandfather-old-gif-15773002

[gray sand]

Yoda build.

[plush umbra]

I do kind of want to make an old norse galdr sorcerer that just RP walks and never uses stamina now

Except maybe to swing a Gandalf sword

[gray sand]

I think I'd run SEE if I wanted full mage.
low stam would kill me.

[regal mural]

Enemies move way too fast to never use stamina

[hollow crag]

Tbf pre Ashlands mages kinda doesn't feel like massive damage dealer

[gray sand]

Depends on who you ask 🤷‍♂️

[hollow crag]

Was using staff of embers once and had full magic gear and was using it against lox who's weak to fire 1.5x damage still feel weak, my skills were level 0 that being said

[regal mural]

Staff of the wild ? and Ember do massive damage.
I kill any chard in 2 shots

haviung 150+ eitr that makes 6 shots wide aoe
without counting wild staff

I feel they made the region too easy

for magic

[hollow crag]

It takes me like 2-3 shots from staff of embers for one fulling

[regal mural]

How high is your skills ?
My elemental and blood are 50+

[hollow crag]

Level 0

[regal mural]

i think 61 for elemental,
yeah thats what it is then.
You need to practice it

Not so hard as it is free ammo and you can spam it.
I have raid on max ( normal difficulty) and got PLENTY of opportunity to level it

Ember for me does 100 damage + 17 fire damage ticking

[hollow crag]

Yea, my only problem with magic is you having to sacrifice your armour, hp and stamina and a lot of time to make it actually stronger or equal to your normal builds

[gray sand]

Part of that is because you've been leveling your normal builds for the past 6 biomes.

[regal mural]

Well honestly, you dont need HP and dont need much stamina
Your blood shield will give you armor ( mine blocks over 500 damage making it absorb any 1 hit from anyone in the game. and needed a limited amount of dodge.
Also summoning distracts so well

[hollow crag]

That is correct

[hollow crag]

Level 0 bubble only blocks 200 damage and then add 5 hp every level iirc

With that said having a mage in multiplayer combat is amazing the bubble can be applied to multiple allies

[plush umbra]

I need a greydwarf thrall to relight all my light sources while I'm out

[regal mural]

Yeah.
I summone 3 skeletons then bubble them.
These summons DO A LOT of damage, they hit 100 per hit, quiet a lot as they can take most ashland enemy on their own with a bubble.
I never have to care for my HP even when I have 5, because of the bubble.
Then you can do a staff of the wild.
Morgen disapear pretty fast and i dont even take a hit

if you do well, you can have all enemies gathering on 1 spot with your 10 summons

[hollow crag]

Magic is powerful, but like all other skills levelling it is the painful part

[sharp raptor]

Useful until your skeletons go wandering into the lava

[regal mural]

I ignored all others at this point, I never really trained any skills.
I just use the same all the time and builded up

I have spent a LOT of time building with raid max on, so I guess it gave me plenty practice

all my other skills are under 25 and runing and jumping is 70. new char run

[regal mural]

oh yeah geez i hate that part. THo it allows me to let them die and keep the archers, weas ablre to have 2 archer at once, my best.

The archers are true snipers , wild eyes they have

https://tenor.com/view/coffee-gif-19018924

I had them once follow my boat in the boiling water 🙂
This gave me the idea to build a base on the water island and have shallow water around. Raids will spawn enemies ( near shore) and they come to boil. then I walk nearby on my ramp to loot 🙂

[clever saffron]

Is moder harder than bonemass

[regal mural]

hmm

modder is not too hard.
but can be annoying

There are a few distinct ways to do modder.
Range, Hugging, or Riding

You bow, you melee, or you get on top

[gray sand]

Option D: None of the above.

[regal mural]

😄

I had an easy time with modder.
What other technique you use

[gray sand]

Melee with neither hugging nor riding.

[regal mural]

How do you melee without hugging ?

Range melee ? Like throwing spear ?

Also the hugging technique , is you getting in his NECK area and he cant attack you there.

[gray sand]

You wait for her to land without hugging the altar, a building, a rock, or anything else.

Just dodge in the open until she lands. Then melee.

[regal mural]

YOu can be next to his head whole time and never take any damage. By far the easiest

[gray sand]

When she attacks, you dodge roll it and then keep attacking.

Don't need to find cheese spots.

[regal mural]

Not what I meant by hugginh . no hugging building.
You wait her to land, then you go in melee at the base of her neck. no need to dodge there

It is not a cheese spot. It is just too close fort a dragon to bit you when you are on her neck

It is how dragon often are depicted fighting a human

[gray sand]

Getting into a specific position where you cannot be attacked is 100% cheese.

[regal mural]

Its not a bug, its a feature 😄

[gray sand]

I specifically didn't use the word bug.

[regal mural]

Oh well riding the drake is cheesy ? Its litterally a viable strategy

Well its the smart way to do it. imo

[gray sand]

Cheese is not mutually exclusive from viable.

[regal mural]

I dont think its cheese as it is a normal thing. to do. like hiding behind a rock to not get hit by Yagluth, its nothing cheesy

[gray sand]

Sure Jan 👍

[regal mural]

Dont need to dodge nonstop on a terrible landscape to hit moder

The terrain is bad enough 🙂

[regal mural]

also it is not 100% you can be pushed away.

It is just a superior technique for those who are not afraid 🙂

Riding is fun and then bow.
There isnt much else.
The melee is the basic basic combat like any enemies which I do not suggest

[gray sand]

You not suggesting I have the most fun I have in this game... well ok then.

[regal mural]

No? ... I am not sure what you mean there.
I am only talking about technique to approach modder, and you do 1 of the approaches but not fully.
Fine. I am glad you have fun. Its all that matters

[plush umbra]

Moder is very meleeable but it didn't even OCCUR to me you could ride her

I'm gonna have to try that lmao. I think the only thing I've ever done that with was stone golems to pick their heads open

[regal mural]

I rode and axed her down. Spear helped hitting floor too.
you need an attack that hits the floor

and very careful when you slide.
its a LOT of fun

[plush umbra]

yeah the sliding part makes me nervous I fall off golems all the time and falling off Moder sounds like a Deathwing raid wipe

[regal mural]

yeah it is risky

[rotund dust]

How does leveling Block Work? Is it, Stam useage, damage blocked, or just 1 block = 1 exp type deal?

[gray sand]

You level it per hit blocked.

If you're trying to power level it, grab a tower shield and go spawn Elder.

[rotund dust]

Will Skeleton Shield work? (Aint killed Elder yet, so nothing above bronze)

[gray sand]

Disregard the above as it doesn't apply to you yet.

[rotund dust]

😂

[ornate sigil]

you could still back yourself to a corner and have night spawn take shots at you.

wouldn't be as fast as elder, but you could do that at any point pre or post elder.

[rotund dust]

Yeah was blocking trolls, as thought maybe it was damage blocked = faster leveling, now it appears it dont matter what i block

[gray sand]

Correct.

[lean storm]

for me i jus blocked myself between a wall and a few dragr spawners. It was pretty cramped and draugr dont run around, they jus keep attacking in ur face so i leveled up from that.

[sharp raptor]

Skeleton raids are an easy way to level it. They hit very weakly and theres a bunch of them. Just stand there with a tower shield

[lean storm]

that too

[rotund dust]

Also, how are you meant to loot serpent scales? (Just killed one, and they sunk)

[plush umbra]

Use a harpoon to drag it to shallow water

Or just lure it there if you can

[rotund dust]

I didn't think to try lure it there, was more a state of panic, as i forgot serpents existed (been ages since i played this)

[plush umbra]

I never go for a scale shield myself, but it can be helpful for easing into the Plains because it'll help you block deathsquitos efficiently

[rotund dust]

Also, cant cook food Serpent food anymore? 😮

[plush umbra]

You need an iron cooking station

Not the little wooden ones

[rotund dust]

Ah heaps of changes, look forward to exploring the new stuff 😄

[wet lodge]

hmm, are taming speeds random?

ive started taming two boars at pretty much the same time, and one finished an entire ingame day ago while the other still isnt done

the 2nd boar isnt even green yet

[sharp raptor]

Taming can be interrupted fi they get spooked by something

[distant field]

We had one that wouldn’t calm down. Just kept on aggroing. Took significantly longer to tame.

[wet lodge]

obviously didnt happen or I wouldve considered it

they are both in the same pen, completely closed in. the only way you could agro them is with fire nearby

[distant field]

Ours was the same. We couldn’t figure out what was going on. Until one of us just sat at distance and watched. And it would just randomly aggro for no apparent reason.

[wet lodge]

you can tell if it agros or not, and you probably had a fire too close

[distant field]

Ok... I’m telling you we experienced the same… and why it seemed to be happening…

[wet lodge]

what same? mine dont agro

the taming is just taking ages

my 2 star tamed within a ingame day, the other is still going after 2 now

[distant field]

Same ‘one tamed quickly the other didn’t’.

Have you just sat and watched it?

That’s what I did. It would randomly aggro. No idea why.

Could yours be for a different reason? Entirely possible, of course.

I’m just offering a possible explanation.

[wet lodge]

cant watch it, its enclosed

[ornate sigil]

fully, like with a roof? if not, you could build a small platform using ladders to see over the wall outside the detection range.

[wet lodge]

with roof, to make sure there is no possible LoS

[distant field]

Well, the good news is ours tamed eventually.

[fluid cove]

i got a full boatload of iron, which means 540 iron + 28 on my butt pocket

how long do you guys think it'll last

🗿

[gray sand]

There is no way of predicting that given we do not know your playstyle.

[fluid cove]

i dont build big buildings using iron stuff, only stone and corewood

all iron go to equipment making

and of course the upgrade stuffs

[distant field]

23 days.

[rotund dust]

Random Question, Youve just smelted first lot of iron, whats the most important thing you craft first? Curious everyones answers

[gray sand]

First 10 Iron always goes to Nails.
Always. It isn't even a question.

Longboat is too big of an upgrade to not immediately get.

[sly oyster]

you know itd be really nice if every time you killed a boss you got a minimum health/stam increase so you werent rocking 25 health forever

be nice if i could walk around without worrying about a random arrow coming through my window and offing me

[azure yacht]

That's just you, I eat food to increase them

[sharp raptor]

Iron mace is good to have for bonemass but absolutely drop your first iron into nails for the longboat and whatever forge/workbench/cauldron upgrades you were missing

[gray sand]

You can always walk around without worry.
It's called eating food.

[sly oyster]

holy crap theres food in the game?

[fluid cove]

is lox meat pie the best plains food

its a pain in the ass to make one tho

[gray sand]

Best is subjective.

What criteria are you using?

[fluid cove]

i usually go for balanced

[gray sand]

Vague. Please specify.

[fluid cove]

lemme rephrase my questions

[gray sand]

That would help.

[sly oyster]

damn someone pissed in your coffee

[fluid cove]

which plains foods do you suggest i bring to Yagluth

[gray sand]

You have 3 slots. Are you trying to run HSS or HHS?

[sharp raptor]

Lox pie, salad and either bread or omlettes depending on if you have gotten eggs from a sealed tower

[fluid cove]

does Yagluth attacks relatively easy to block/parry

[fluid cove]

sealed tower eggs?

[gray sand]

Parrying bosses is pointless.
And you can't exactly block the meteors falling from the sky.

[distant field]

For any new materials I feel my priority list goes something like:

Boats > crafting table upgrades > shields > armors > weapons

[fluid cove]

so stamina should be a priority then

[sharp raptor]

Sealed tower is a dungeon with a miniboss thats part of the hildrs quest. you can get chicken eggs there before beating yagluth

[gray sand]

Yes and no. Health lets you tank more of the fire damage you will undoubtedly have going on.

[fluid cove]

didn't know that wow, i just found Hildir the other day too

[gray sand]

HHS configuration: Lox Meat Pie, Fish Wraps, Blood Pudding

HSS configuration: Lox Meat Pie, Bread, Blood Pudding

If you have access to Serpent Stew, it replaces Pie.

[fluid cove]

i currently have 12 serpent stew

[gray sand]

Then I would go Stew, Pie, Pudding for HHS tbh.

Fire Meads, probably 2.
Tasty Mead, full stack.
Upgraded Silver Sword.

👍

Medium Health pots, always good.

[fluid cove]

Silver Sword better than BM Sword/Porcupine for Yaggy?

[gray sand]

Unquestionably.

[fluid cove]

good thing i already have it

why's that tho i thought BM has higher base damage? is it the magic damage

[gray sand]

It's because Yag takes Spirit damage, yes.

[fluid cove]

aight

[gray sand]

BM is good, Silver is just better specifically vs. him

Can bring both so you can switch to BM if a random fuling or 3 shows up.

[fluid cove]

the only plains level weapons i've made are the BM Atgeir and Porcupine

[gray sand]

Atgeir would be good to bring in case randoms.

[distant field]

Thoughts on (Ashland tier) melee weapon and shield for primary ranged player who has Storm Fang, Root Ripper, and Ask set?

[gray sand]

Only Ashland one-handers are the sword or mace.

So whichever you prefer aesthetically.

Personally if running 1H+Shield I would use the Flametal Armor.

Ask Armor is more suited for 2H, Dual Wielding, or full Archer.

[distant field]

Are they otherwise equal? And what gem would you go with?

[gray sand]

Lightning is the "I'm never bad" gem for melee.

[distant field]

I pretty much am full archer. I have considered going two-handed for those occasions I need to melee.

[gray sand]

Building Berserker can save you an inventory slot.
As the dual axes are a great weapon, but still function as tree-cutters.

[distant field]

Oh interesting. I am our tree farmer. So that would fit.

[gray sand]

Saves you 2 actually, as you have no reason to carry a shield either.

[distant field]

Right, interesting.

I assume the fighting style is quite different to sword and shield?

[gray sand]

Very.

Berserker being the namesake.

[distant field]

So, are you saying that if I tend to just madly swing my sword, I should have been going 2H before?

[gray sand]

2H Swords, yes.

Berserker is dual wielding axes. Same concept.

[distant field]

Yeah, understood that.

You wouldn’t go Bloodstone with the axes?

My thinking is if I’m going melee then I’m probably going to be taking damage.

[gray sand]

Depends on how hampered for inventory slots you are.

[distant field]

Very

[gray sand]

Personally I carry 2 pairs of axes.
One lightning, one blood.

Fighting 3 or more people = lightning.
Fighting individual hard opponents = blood.

If you can carry only 1, I would take lightning.

As I said, it's never bad.

[distant field]

Ok, thanks.

[ornate sigil]

the only time I have seen a person/people take issue with lightning weapons', is due to it procking chain lightning and hitting a dwarf (that took major offence and killed the person in questin).

[distant field]

I have had that happen. Fortunately he ran into the lava.

[ornate sigil]

oh my.

[distant field]

It was very funny. I was sniping at stuff and pulled an asksvin. The dverger runs over to it just as I loose an arrow. I kill the green doggo and it chains. And I was like “oh shit” didn’t mean to do that. And the he goes and runs straight for the hot stuff.

[fluid cove]

i got curious and loaded my seed into the map generator website and holy hell i hit a jackpot

found a small swamp island a boat and a hop trip away from my base loaded with sunken crypts

i count 17 crypts

[ornate sigil]

thats a great start for IRON age.

[fluid cove]

i'm actually in the black metal age already

[ornate sigil]

ah

[fluid cove]

but hey can never have enough iron right 💀

[ornate sigil]

then for building a massive plains farm/base/portal hub

[fluid cove]

my current plains base is not that big really

but already got enough space for a 20x20 farm

[ornate sigil]

nice

[fluid cove]

alternating between barley and flax

[gray sand]

Swamp directly south of my main island has 1539 iron in it.

[fluid cove]

i'm sure i've exhausted my previous swamp base's irons

glad to see there's a huge mine next to my current base

posted in on #screenshots

[coarse wedge]

@eternal sigil sorry for the ping I saw your post in suggestions about building in dungeons and would like to say me and the boys put a campfire down every time to get rested buff and heal. It’s a very simple process.

[coarse wedge]

Me and the boys just build a closet forge and smelter right next to the swamp, we are lazy with extra steps.

[hollow crag]

It's always iron you can never have enough iron

[fluid cove]

i do too, but its honestly wack as how pure iron ingot is heavier than the scrap metal

[runic helm]

It makes sense

[coarse wedge]

Well is cuz yes

[fluid cove]

it's a 1:1 input output no?

one scrap = one ingot

if its a 2:1 then i understand

[runic helm]

Yes that part isn’t realistic but it makes sense iron ways more then scrap metal. I assume they didn’t do a 2:1 to make the game more enjoyable

[hollow crag]

Idk maybe they added coal into the ingot

[ornate sigil]

it doesn't only because we don't know the size difference between the ingot and the ore (I would assume a increase in density and decrease in size).

[fluid cove]

that would be steel

[coarse wedge]

Anyone else have multiple little camps set up that you have no intention of returning to?

[hollow crag]

Only like one or two early game ones or mining site

[runic helm]

Does anyone else feel the Ashland’s is almost too easy to get ores but has too much constant combat?

[hollow crag]

They are nerfing it all soon

[runic helm]

Like within 2 days of playing in the Ashland’s i had full gear and multiple weapons with the stone upgrades but the constant combat was annoying

[hollow crag]

Which means it be hard to find a 2 star asksvin 😔

[runic helm]

Yes but then it’d be way too easy

[coarse wedge]

I mainly do it for close respawns. There’s at least 5 time houses scattered around my explored area for respawns that I will most likely never return to

[gray sand]

That's what people want apparently.

[hollow crag]

It's happening tho

[fluid cove]

would be cool annoying if the swamp progression has steel weapons instead of just iron

like how the BF progression has Copper + Tin = Bronze

[gray sand]

Iron + Coal = Steel
So...

[fluid cove]

and in Swamp it would be Iron + Coal = Steel

[hollow crag]

💀I don't want to farm more shit

[runic helm]

Like getting the stuff for Ashland’s gear is too easy but the constant combat is annoying, like idk how they’d fix making the flametal harder to get yet making the mobs less annoying without making it too easy/hard

[gray sand]

It literally is steel. Just called iron because most people think about iron more relatably.

[coarse wedge]

Don’t want any spoilers so I didn’t Google but is it all ores in ashlands and what level are the enemies

[fluid cove]

i mean logically yeah because the scrap iron is burned with coal already anyway

[ornate sigil]

steel is mostly iron based with few varients that are low/no iron like stainless.

[runic helm]

? Id kinda have to spoil it if I answer you

[gray sand]

"No iron" steel????

[coarse wedge]

If it’s not don’t say specifically what’s there is it a yes to all ores

[runic helm]

No

[coarse wedge]

Ok

[runic helm]

As in every ore in the game?

[coarse wedge]

Also like what # boss do you recommend I beat before I go there

[runic helm]

You have to beat the Queen

Its progression locked

[coarse wedge]

Ok I’ll hold off on further questions then thanks

[fluid cove]

each boss's defeat unlocks the required stuff to progress to the next biome

so Meadows -> Black Forest -> Swamps -> Mountains -> Plains -> Mistlands -> Ashlands

[coarse wedge]

How many bosses are there?

[fluid cove]

one for each biomes

[runic helm]

7

[gray sand]

Over 9000

[runic helm]

Bro I swear everytime I make a new server for my friends they quit after like a week

[coarse wedge]

I see so ima assume the big fire carving on the rocks is the Ashlands boss

[fluid cove]

what biome ur in right now

[gray sand]

Just play solo?
Easy.

[ornate sigil]

you are better at deciphering runes than I am. the first time I saw the mistland boss stone, I thought it was a flamingo.

[coarse wedge]

Swamps and was about to cry for about 30 mins because I died in between 2 spawners

[ornate sigil]

then i read it and thought "that doesn't make sense"

[runic helm]

I end up playing solo the majority of the time. It’s not as fun with the boys.

[gray sand]

No comment.

[coarse wedge]

Me looking at the elder rock not expecting him to be so godamn tall

[ornate sigil]

hahaha

[fluid cove]

the elder is one of the easiest boss no cap

[coarse wedge]

I spawned him in expecting a level close to the deer, I was very wrong

[coarse wedge]

Deer left the chat

[fluid cove]

the only weapons you need is the construction hammer, and a fuckton of stones and wood

[runic helm]

The elder is one of the most fun bosses in the game

[ornate sigil]

in general, the bosses increase in size as you go.

[coarse wedge]

Fun:)

[runic helm]

Draugers are easy once you learn their parry, it’s pretty straightforward

[coarse wedge]

Also genius strat I came up with, get a craft station, fuckton of stone, build^. I call it Fortnite

[fluid cove]

you can take out at least 40-50% of the elder's HP as soon as its spawning

[coarse wedge]

That would have been good to know

[gray sand]

Just whack him with wooden club.
Simple.

[runic helm]

But if you don’t do that it’s a rly fun boss fight.

[fluid cove]

simply by spam building campfires underneath the elder as it rises up

[coarse wedge]

Nah me and the boys did fire arrows because he a tree

And hid behind the pillars

[runic helm]

Yee we did that on our first play through back in 2021

[coarse wedge]

Damn this game has been around longer than I thought

[runic helm]

The first Valheim play through is actually magic

[coarse wedge]

I am having very much fun rn:)

[fluid cove]

can't believe this game is still in early access tbh

[runic helm]

Maybe they’ll fully release it after the deep north

Idk what their going to do after that.

[ornate sigil]

if you want to talk about the old times, ask someone who has a ligit copy of "Odins cape" in game. they were the for-runners

[runic helm]

Yea I wish I got one

[distant field]

My understanding is that that is literally the plan.

[runic helm]

I played literally 2 days after release on steam, I full like og players should have gotten something cool

[runic helm]

Well there you go

[fluid cove]

hope they expand the ocean biome

[ornate sigil]

ya, all I got was a 1yr aniversery drinking horn in game.

[distant field]

Again my understanding is that that is literally the plan.

[runic helm]

Did they give those out or did you have to craft them at that time

[runic helm]

Brother not everyone knows their plans stop being condescending

[fluid cove]

does Iron Gate have frequent updates on what they're working on rn

but tbf afaik they literally are just a 5-men team

understandable if developments are a bit slow

[ornate sigil]

i don't remember. definitely been a hot minute since then.

[runic helm]

Yea I remember getting to the plains back in ‘21 grinding multiple level 4 sets then stopped playing until 2 weeks ago, now I’m in the ashlands

[distant field]

The intention was to be informative.

[runic helm]

👍

[distant field]

Not sure. This is stuff I’ve read here.

[ornate sigil]

as far as "updates" go. I have heard that early access games are not allowed to "predict" and only drop news if a update is completely done/simply waiting on release.

[runic helm]

An underground cave biome with bioluminescent plants would be cool

[ornate sigil]

hence why we don't get updates all that often.

[fluid cove]

how far in-between was Mistlands and Ashlands update

[runic helm]

Because idk what they’re going to add next besides maybe East and west there’s only so much they can don the disc style map

[runic helm]

I think almost a year?

Mistlands was Dec 2022, Ashland’s was this may

[fluid cove]

so im guessing DN is maybe 2026?

[runic helm]

3026**

[ornate sigil]

3.141

[fluid cove]

🗿

[distant field]

Lore-wise there are 9 biomes, as I understand it. And ocean will likely be expanded alongside Deep North. That will give us 9 fleshed out biomes.

[fluid cove]

speaking of the ocean, i should remind myself to carry the harpoon everytime i go boating

[runic helm]

But like is the ocean even a biome… maybe they’ll add more stuff but unless we get some sort of underwater breathing apparatus idk how it’ll be considered an actual biome

[fluid cove]

killed my first serpent yesterday, but only its meat floats 💀

[distant field]

Try kiting them to the nearest shore.

[distant field]

It is.

[runic helm]

It is considered a biome but there’s nothing rly going on besides serpents and leviathans

Again unless we get some sort of underwater breathing apparatus it’s going to boring

[ornate sigil]

it is a incomplete one, like DN is currently, but with some content.

[distant field]

Yep. That.

[fluid cove]

i'd like it if they revamp the entire boat features, like let us fully customize/build our own floating vessels but based on biome progressions

[runic helm]

They should add a biome like the Aberration map from ARK

That’d be sick

[ornate sigil]

i would love rowing oar. it would help so those on the boat, not steering, had something to do.

[fluid cove]

i recently made this suggestion but some people said it would be unfair to solo players

[runic helm]

But I mean how much could they rly do in the ocean if it’s just on the surface besides adding a bunch of mobs

[ornate sigil]

I would argue that for solo play, you already have one in the form of the steering oar.

[fluid cove]

maybe add some ocean biome only resources found on random small islands

idk maybe coconuts? 🗿

[ornate sigil]

dungeons? a mini boss? a reason to get your fishing and swim skill up?

[fluid cove]

true but passengers rowing increases the speed right

[distant field]

Like Chitin?

[ornate sigil]

in theory, yes. but that would likely act like the wisp light or weapon and would need to be equipped to use and drain stamina in exchange for up to half of full speed if all seats were using oars.

[fluid cove]

Leviathans are their own thing right, I meant something like proper small islands uniquely found in the middle of the oceans

[ornate sigil]

*or something to that effect to still make using sails with the wind at your back more viable than rowing.

on the ashlands boat, that would be a lot of people to get that 50% boost.

[fluid cove]

i swear the nordic god of wind probably hates me cuz everytime i go out boating it's always headwind 💀

[distant field]

Yeah, I don’t know what they might have planned. But I feel leviathans fill that random small island with resource unique to them role. So I can see them expanding the uses of chitin. And adding… 🤷🏻‍♂️

[plush umbra]

bwah... just beat Yagluth for the second time

[ornate sigil]

modor's revenge

[distant field]

Are you passed the Mountains yet?

[plush umbra]

my body hurts

[fluid cove]

i have, and Moder's power doesn't last long enough for the trip from my last swamp base to my current plains base

so i had to row like the last 50% of the trip lmao

[plush umbra]

what kind of masochist builds in the Swamp!

[ornate sigil]

the kind that loves the screams of surtlings....

[plush umbra]

fair enough! good coal farming there.

[distant field]

Yeah, when you’re solo in a boat it kinda sucks how short moder lasts for.

[fluid cove]

me, since there's a practically infinite amount of coals i can just pick up every 30 mins or so

i have a massive amount of surtling cores that i dont know what to do with them

[ornate sigil]

i have a small portal hub for 3 surtling spawners, it helped me smelt all my blackmetal up to teir3 and a friends with little down time.

[ornate sigil]

if you are the pyromaniac type, might I recommend bonfires everywhere? otherwise a portal hub or toss them into the oblitorator for more coal.

[fluid cove]

my plains base is pretty small so no

maybe i'll build a portal hub

[distant field]

There’s a Mistlands related thing they are needed for that is very useful.

[gray sand]

MP already has permanent Moder buff 🤷‍♂️

[hollow crag]

Fishing is the worst... you need so many trophies, and when i need the lox trophy it just wont drop me the trophies, killed 6 lox and nothing

Fishing is also abysmally hard i caught the fish but didnt click fast enough and it dropped back into the water

[gray sand]

Why trophy is needed for Misty Bait?

[gray sand]

Originally you didn't need trophies... which was much better imo 🤷‍♂️

[hollow crag]

Lox trpohy

[gray sand]

Ah. So the only one that matters needs lox trophy 😭

Were you here for how it was originally?

[hollow crag]

Nope

[abstract wedge]

Ive played valheim before Yagluth was a thing

[hollow crag]

I heard you just have to catch the fish before that tier

[abstract wedge]

Nah

[gray sand]

Yes.

You used Perch/Pike to make BF bait.
You used Troll to Swamp bait.
And so on.

I liked that system much better. But it is what it is 🤷‍♂️

[abstract wedge]

you just need fishing bate and whatever trophy is required for the specific bait. Yes tou get the bait levels with progression but if you unlock fishing bait then dont touch any trophy untill lets say ashlands

you would unlock the spicy bait first

[gray sand]

Now, yes. We are talking about how it originally was.

Originally you didn't need trophies.

[abstract wedge]

Ah I didnt bother with fishin back then untill Mistlands with the new Fish and Bread thing

Best stamina food for mistlands

[hollow crag]

Fishing is the worst

[abstract wedge]

Fair enough

[hollow crag]

And i like fishing irl

The way the devs done it is so bad

[gray sand]

I liked the old system.

People complained because you could get hardlocked by Mountains fish if you had really unlucky RNG regarding Tetra.

[gray sand]

I will take this fishing system over Stardew Valley's shitfest any day of the week.

[hollow crag]

I would like just use my harppon to catch the fish

[hollow crag]

Idk what you talking about but nothing can be worst than fishing angler fish for me rn

I tried everything

Still couldnt get one

[gray sand]

What's your skill at?

[hollow crag]

Oh wait!!!! my fishing farm just caught one in the storm

FINALLY, and its quality 4

[gray sand]

DAMN

My best Angler is 3

[hollow crag]

That MF ate like at least 5-6 of my bait

[gray sand]

If it is that much of an annoyance, I honestly recommend just devcommanding your fishing skill to 100.
Takes quite a bit of the pain out of it.

[hollow crag]

Yea i might do that but i also want to do it legit

[gray sand]

You're going to have to spend hours grinding that skill up then.

[hollow crag]

There were a few time where i caught the fish but i couldnt click the E button in time

[gray sand]

Which is all fine when you enjoy fishing.

But grinding it for hours when you dislike it is just... don't do that to yourself.

[hollow crag]

I am just praying to catch one angler fish with the fish trap thing i built when its storm

Its not really working

[gray sand]

Setting the skill and then not using cheese farms is my compromise for fishing.

Like I still have to legit go catch the fish.

[hollow crag]

Idek how to cheese farm cuz i watch the videos online and tried to do it and its not really working

But that quality 4 one, it drained my entire stamina bar instantly whenever i hooked onto it

[gray sand]

That happens at lower skill.

[hollow crag]

I got to hang this quality 4 one up its my first quality 4 ever

[gray sand]

So tbh, you can use that one fish to train.
Dig out a whole pond, throw it in there. And just keep fishing your entire stamina bar out over and over.

[hollow crag]

nah im good

[gray sand]

Because iirc fishing levels by "per stamina drained" unlike other things.

[hollow crag]

i just want fish and bread

[gray sand]

So the larger fish will level you faster.

[hollow crag]

i see

[gray sand]

@sweet bay when/if you have time can you double-check me on this statement?

[rotund dust]

Do I A) Make Iron Armor, B) Keep Troll C) Make Root Armor, Using Mace/Shield, Bow very Rarely

[nocturne wolf]

I keep troll armor going into mountains. At level 3, it is very good there and the swamp armors are very slow to make and upgrade. It also has a lower movespeed penalty than both swamp armors.

[gray sand]

Root is good even in melee.
So C), but keep using your Mace/Shield.

[rotund dust]

Didnt realise the Root Armor speed Modifier, also weak vs Fire, altho, nothing of fire in the mountains, so shouldnt be an issue 😄

[nocturne wolf]

Frost caves have cultists, which have fire attacks

[gray sand]

nothing of fire in the mountains
Cultists.

[rotund dust]

Frost Caves? 😮

Its like earlier, i need an iron cooking rack to cook serpent stew, and sausages are non existant (assume i need to unlock something else that is new)
Been many a while since i played 😛

[nocturne wolf]

They are dungeons in mountains. If you go to enough of them (and you have to go to a lot of them) you can make armor that increases movespeed.

[gray sand]

You will be trying to find as many as you can so you can make the Fenris set 🙂

[nocturne wolf]

I’ve never been able to make the armor because I have terrible luck with the right items generating inside

[rotund dust]

Those tree dudes for the root armor were new too

Oh yippee!
Cant wait

[austere belfry]

root armor is weak to fire but the surtlings in the swamps didnt do like any damage to me, or maybe theyre just weak in general?

[fair cairn]

they arent strong idd say but your also permanently wet

[austere belfry]

oh right, the wetness...

[fierce radish]

So, I just finished Ashlands. Killing the boss was such an awesome experience. I can say it was epic

[sweet bay]

No, it's per time.
http://valheim.kirilloid.ru/skills/Fishing

[gray sand]

Ah, so the opposite is true.

Fastest training is on the lowest fish.

Lowest fish at furthest distance would be maximum uptime per stamina.

Time to dig a trench 😄

[hollow crag]

Do we have black metal arrows in this game?

[gray sand]

No, we have Needle Arrows.

[restive pumice]

Hey finally got a lox saddle and rode one but felt instantly motion sick. Any ideas?
Anyone else found this

[merry pebble]

for sausages you need upgraded cooking station 🙂 look for flowers in swamp

[keen cloud]

can necks be tamed?

[sterile summit]

sadly, no

[keen cloud]

damn

btw i have entrail boar meet and thistle and still didn t unlock the sausages

[fair cairn]

need to upgrade your cooking station

[keen cloud]

and how do i do that?

[gray sand]

You need to find a Turnip.

[keen cloud]

oh thanks

[gray sand]

First upgrade requires you to find a Turnip.
Second one requires ||Silver||.
Third requires ||Blackmetal||.
Fourth requires ||Black Marble||.
Fifth requires ||Flametal and Ashwood||.

Sixth with be whatever Deep North adds.

[keen cloud]

oh i see ,gotta beat bonemass soon

[gray sand]

Turnips are pre-Mass.

[keen cloud]

what s that supposed to mean?

[gray sand]

Means you should acquire them before beating Bonemass.

[keen cloud]

oh yea cool ,im on it

[gray sand]

You're looking for a flower that looks exactly like the Carrot Seeds, but the bloom is Yellow instead of white.

[fair cairn]

should make your best foods before going for bonemass which require turnips

[keen cloud]

is worth to make the iron bow?

or shall with for the one made with silver?

[gray sand]

Worth is subjective to the individual 🤷‍♂️

[keen cloud]

actualy is me and a friend

he s more for close fight shield and mace

[austere belfry]

I was told keeping the finewood bow is good enough but its really up to you if you want to farm more iron for it

[keen cloud]

well the next bow status is the finewood's maximum

[gray sand]

Huntsman also is the "quietest" bow.

[keen cloud]

im deciding between the iron hammer and bow rn

40 iron left and gotta make another travel by boat to swamp

[gray sand]

Hammer?

Oh, the Sledge.

If your friend already has the Mace and Buckler, just make the Bow.

[keen cloud]

allright

he have mace bones tower shield + buckler and full iron set done

[gray sand]

Tower shields are... not good.

[merry pebble]

they can be good for group

[small gull]

or for solo, with it you can combat with big enemies group

[keen cloud]

that tower shield was helpfull in black forest and dungeons

[gray sand]

Regular Shields are just better.

[small gull]

you can parry more attack than other shield

[small gull]

yes

[gray sand]

Tower Shields can't parry, and slow you down wayyyy too much. That's the issue.

Bucklers if you're very confident in your parry ability.
Otherwise just normal shields.

[keen cloud]

as for the arrows ,i mostly use fire arrows ,are there arrows more effective then those?

[gray sand]

All arrows are more effective than Fire Arrows.

[keen cloud]

i saw swamp draugrs take a lot of dmg from ice arrows

also freeze em

also abomination takes dmg from fire arrows over time

[gray sand]

Fire DoT doesn't stack, so unless you're shooting only once every 5 seconds, you're wasting potential.

Wood Arrows do more damage if you're shooting once per 2.5s or faster.

[small gull]

Can I unlock it in Mountains?

[keen cloud]

at drakes u get smth that help u craft those ice arrows

but u need to farm obsidian

[small gull]

Where?

[gray sand]

Mountains for both.

[small gull]

Ok ty

[keen cloud]

but make frost resitance potions at calduron first

[small gull]

I'm in swamp, is hard to go in Mountains?

[gray sand]

But generally arrow progression is:

Wood -> Maybe Flint -> Use Bronze/Iron you find in chests (never craft these 2) -> Obsidian/Frost -> Needle -> Etc.

[gray sand]

You go there after killing Bonemass.

[small gull]

Ty

[keen cloud]

for bonemass as arrows should i use fire since he is weak against fire or others?

[gray sand]

Fire DoT doesn't stack, so unless you're shooting only once every 5 seconds, you're wasting potential.
Wood Arrows do more damage if you're shooting once per 2.5s or faster.

arrow progression is:

Wood -> Maybe Flint -> Use Bronze/Iron you find in chests (never craft these 2) -> Obsidian/Frost -> Needle -> Etc.

Fire Arrows absolutely suck.

[small gull]

Fire arrow in swamp is useless because in it always rain

[gray sand]

Also just, as stated, it does less damage unless you barely ever shoot things.

Was really hoping Ashlands brought a Flame Arrow 2.0, but 🤷‍♂️

It is kind of sad imo that Frost Arrow is almost uncontested the best arrow in the game.
Even now, 3 biomes later.

The Ashlands arrow does 4 more damage in trade for not slowing people...
And it does more damage than all other arrows aside from that one exception.

[small gull]

arrows also slow attacks as well as movement?

[gray sand]

Just movement afaik.

But nothing other than Wolves really attacks fast tbf.

[keen cloud]

oh im still learning to parry them

[fair cairn]

mountains

oh wait, im late

[keen cloud]

when they try bite u and make that biting sound gotta parry em

[gray sand]

Sound.
You hear the sound, immediately hold block.
Perfect parry every time.

[keen cloud]

then they have few sec of knock out and u deal dmg bonuss

but the wolfs atatck to fast

[gray sand]

Only if they aren't being parried.

If you're facing multiple, one option is to kit until you have the grouped so they all attack at the same time and you can just single-parry them.

Otherwise parry the first but DON'T hit it, so while it is staggered you can parry and hit the other one.

[keen cloud]

work to rise the ground adn shoot em with arrows?

[small gull]

How to find Haldor? I explore many black forest but I dont find he

[umbral marsh]

hey guys I finally bought the game

what kind of base do you recommend to build?

[gray sand]

Whatever kind you, personally, feel like building.

It is your world, your decision.

[austere belfry]

my first days with the game I just refurbished abandoned houses I found sitting around, found a particularly good one and then just made base at the edge of the black forest using it.

[austere belfry]

do poison arrows have any decent use?

[gray sand]

Nope.

[austere belfry]

RIP. Have like 3 stacks of them from crypts

[gray sand]

DoTs don't stack, they refresh. That's the issue.

[half dragon]

Moder is probably the only use for poison arrows

[gray sand]

Obsidian kills her faster.

[half dragon]

At least when she's not flying

[gray sand]

When she's not flying, hitting her with a melee weapon kills her faster.

[half dragon]

the idea is that she's a bit harder to hit when flying and you'll probably miss decent amount of hits so poison actually gets to do a bit more damage for average player

[gray sand]

1 hit per 8s is a lot of missing.

[rotund dust]

Can bronze pickaxe hit silver/obsidian, or need to make iron?

[keen cloud]

my first days i ran from trolls and sweard half a day on this game

@gray sand the fenrirs that appears during the night on the mountain are worth killing?

[gray sand]

Is there anything not worth killing in this game?

[rotund dust]

Ghosts.

[keen cloud]

skeletons

[gray sand]

Shall stand there and allow both to kill me next time I see them 🙂

[rotund dust]

I thought you meant for loot purposes 😛

[keen cloud]

i mean what fenrirs drop? the spwaning ones during the night?

only wolf fangs i got

[nocturne wolf]

Ghosts usually spawn guarding a treasure room, they are definitely worth killing whenever you find one.

[sharp bluff]

they are worth killing cuz they are a nuisance, like bats

[craggy mason]

you need iron pickaxe for this

[keen cloud]

they are so creepy

[sharp bluff]

after playing subnautica very few things can creep me out

[austere belfry]

fck wraiths tho

[small gull]

There is a way to farm dandelion?

[sharp bluff]

kinda

drop a bunch of summons into a pit below a spawner

well, that or you mark their spawn clusters

[buoyant ether]

i think i asked this once before but i cant rememba

if i spawnproof the island, will raids still occur ?

am thinking of a best way to deal with it

[gray sand]

Raids happen unless you turn them off completely.

[buoyant ether]

ok ok ok

i dont wanna dismiss said mechanic

[keen cloud]

from settings?

[gray sand]

Yes.

[keen cloud]

can u check at valheim help please?

[daring sinew]

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse1.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.lwJpiI58x4Ak1i_dhS6LWAHaEt%26pid%3DApi&f=1&ipt=437f5aa7c1eaa458d4c40aa0260ec557f3ff796bdbad7d67420490ce0fa4d88f&ipo=images

I feel like they should remesh the bronze axe to something like this

[gray sand]

Yay, random danger links to click on!

[daring sinew]

It’s an image I promise

[merry pebble]

the raids will still start, but if you spawnproofed it properly no mobs should spawn i believe

[merry pebble]

we have channels for those if they are valheim related

[buoyant ether]

im thinking if i should just wall half the island but idk

[pastel geode]

Looking for a chill group of Vanilla players, is there a separate channel?

[merry pebble]

#1024264966712340510 😄

[daring sinew]

For some reason I can’t share images directly

[buoyant ether]

u gotta go to said channels man

[merry pebble]

even in #screenshots for example?

[daring sinew]

Yea nvm Im just smooth brain

[merry sun]

Fire does stack

[regal mural]

Dvergre are friends of fader lol

[merry pebble]

bosses are friends with everything exept player faction 😄

[regal mural]

So funny lol.
I always imagine they somehow know who summoned them and are only pissed at that one dude that wanted to summon them in the first place

Yeah now dvergre spawned while I was fighting him and now i am afraid to hit them

[crisp portal]

Guys quick question, if I change my HDMI cable from my GPU and plug it in M-board, would increase from being at base? (around 15 fps and 15k instances)

because the game is somehow CPU heavy and not GPU

[stuck dome]

no

if you do that there's absolutely no point in having a gpu

cpu and gpu do their own things
changing external cables does absolutely nothing

[crisp portal]

I upgraded my gpu to a 3070, and the performance is still 15fps near base... How do I make that change?

the game uses more CPU than GPU... how do I shift that?

[nocturne wolf]

You don’t. If your base doesn’t lag, it isn’t big enough.

[fair cairn]

thats not helpfull

[crisp portal]

I wanna to continue building near it make it wider and bigger... but at 15fps is a pain... xD

[distant field]

I frequently see things like “15k instances” mentioned - how does one see that information?

[strange coyote]

F2 brings up a little menu with instance count among other things

[distant field]

Ooh. Thanks.

[azure ermine]

The way the Asksvin move and attack reminds me a lot of the guardian monsters from Ghost Busters...

[misty sun]

Because one time, I turned into a dog, and they helped me.

[unique onyx]

thank you

[buoyant ether]

#screenshots message fun to notice its crooked after its all done 😭

[fair cairn]

howd you manage to screw up like that

[hollow crag]

I just realised, all the late game boss as of now are all resistant to piercing damage, and that's like spears, polerm and bows

My arrows were still doing consistent 100+ damage to the Queen every hit that being said

[buoyant ether]

well like i said, not noticing it ? 💀

(am new to building)

[hollow crag]

I hope the last boss in the game would just have neutral to piercing damage so my near maxed bow skill can show its full power

[buoyant ether]

btw how brave is it to go to ashlands with full fenris ?

[fair cairn]

yea but how lol
also a tip is building the skeleton or frame first

[buoyant ether]

yeah i gotta start doing that

utube guides rarely seem to do the skeleton first, from the ones i watched atleast

[hollow crag]

It should be fine

[buoyant ether]

i been building since yday i rly wanna adventure but at the same time getting the base ready is gnawing me 😭

[hollow crag]

I went in with wolf armour previously took down a fortress and all no problem

Wolf armour and fernis is same tier with fernis with better movement speed, and if you need protection just use bonemass and potions

[buoyant ether]

not me also thinking right after almost getting it done "well, idk my tall af hut kinda does it all alrdy" 😭

but im obsessed with the idea of a nice island village base

do yall suffer of also such indeciseveness ?

[buoyant ether]

yeeee i love the speed buff tbh

and im guessing im upgrading weapons and armor from stuff from ashlands?

[hollow crag]

It's good, I don't really need it as much since I am mostly a bow user but movement speed buff is still massive outside of combat

[buoyant ether]

#screenshots message

[buoyant ether]

and sometimes in combat as well, tbh i been suing the bow a lot but now been integrating sword + shield stuff too

[hollow crag]

It's like the sealed tower except you can actually build inside it

[buoyant ether]

cant wait to make berzerker axees

[buoyant ether]

hell yeah 😏

[hollow crag]

I am an almost exclusive bow user that pretty much maxed out my bow skill sitting at 97 or 98 now I don't remember

My bow works like a machine gun, i feel like it's atk speed is as fast as melee weapons

Outside of 7 meters bows is faster, within 7 meters bow is faster kinda vibe

[buoyant ether]

shame i alrdy knwo a boss location but

[buoyant ether]

what bow ? 👀

[hollow crag]

Well I was mostly using mountains bow but switched to spine snap recently, I now carry 3 bows and like 600 arrows due to how fast I go through them

[buoyant ether]

btw whats the best out of berserking axes ?

[hollow crag]

It's absolutely insane tho with how fast the bow is at high levels skill, I legit use it even in melee combat

[buoyant ether]

i usually manage with 200 hella long already

[hollow crag]

I say lightning for all weapons, just because of aoe and Ashlands is all about fighting many mobs

[buoyant ether]

ok ok nice

[hollow crag]

That's because you still use other weapons I use bow in melee and in ranged combat

[buoyant ether]

why have i put myself into position where i have so many possible choices q__q

i also havea half ready fortress bunker but gave up on it kinda

[hollow crag]

At high level bow skill it becomes an assault rifle, you don't need anything else just multiple back up guns and a lot of bullets

[buoyant ether]

my bow skill isl ike 50ish ? i think

wtf there was like 30 enemies outside my fortress 😭 😭

[hollow crag]

That's good, 50 is where bows starts to feel satisfying to use, 80 is where it becomes your MAIN weapon where you can really just use it anywhere and it feels like an entire different weapon

Can't wait to get to Ashlands and use the 3 different type of bow, although I think I'm only going to make the lighting and the nature one, which one be insane for aoe combat and the other will be permanent ranged stun lock I imagine

[wraith sun]

I have a heavy charachter who has 95 in clubs and 87 in archery, he is good at shooting enemies quick and exploiting weaknesses against blunt

[buoyant ether]

anyone else have bad lag in ashlands ?

like im getting rly bad lag, and i have a pretty decent setup

maybe i gotta start a fresh run 😫 😫

[wraith sun]

I do at times, especially around larger numbers of charred enemies (near castles)

[buoyant ether]

yeah

[buoyant ether]

theres a lightning bow ? okay i gotta get that

[hollow crag]

I have bad lags all the time because of my shit device 🤣

[wraith sun]

You can get any flame metal weapon with either snare, lightning or damage boost based on missing health

[hollow crag]

Yea I saw it in some Ashlands yt videos it's absolutely insane

[nocturne wolf]

All the lightning weapons are insane if you get lucky

[hollow crag]

Too bad that there are currently no way to stop your health from regenerating otherwise the missing health series would be really op

[wraith sun]

Only downside to lightning so far seems to be that it can quickly turn dvergr against you despite not attacking them

[nocturne wolf]

More enemies to kill

[wraith sun]

I have seen one use bukeberries with red arbalest for max burst damage

[wraith sun]

Not fun when its 2 x 2 star mages in the mistlands

They still make short work of you if you don't avoid their damage well enough

Especially if you haven't realised yet that you pissed them off

[buoyant ether]

they are fwiends 😤

[wraith sun]

I would rather run into the midle of a large fuling village and use brute force than face a 2 star dvergr mage

[buoyant ether]

am thinking if i should start a proper hardcore run

i might regret that decisionm tho

[wraith sun]

Might? You will regret it 😂

[buoyant ether]

😭

so wait from the queens carapace i can make some new armor ?

[nocturne wolf]

No, you make items needed for ashlands

[buoyant ether]

i forgot i started the elder base too XDDD

goddamn

[hollow crag]

Wait I just realised, frost arrows + root fang = infinite stun lock + freeze effect on single target enemy

[hollow crag]

Finding the boss in no map mode be painful

Idk if printseeds command shows nearby boss location for the earlier boss, but I know it shows the Queen dungeon if it's nearby

[wraith sun]

The queen always seemed to be easy to find for me, would always end up hearing her from inside a nearby dungeon before finding the stone showing her location...

[hollow crag]

Other then that you just have to look at the boss stone and go the direction it shows

[nocturne wolf]

I had to go through 8 infested mines to get a location on the other side of the world.

[hollow crag]

No I mean finding the boss location in no map mode

[wraith sun]

Yea not hard when you can hear in what direction she is

[hollow crag]

Huh..?

You can hear what direction the boss location is?

[buoyant ether]

nah honestly id keep the map

[nocturne wolf]

If you are in an infested mine that is very close to the queen, you will be able to hear her.

[buoyant ether]

based

[hollow crag]

Damn I never know that

[nocturne wolf]

I didnt know either, I just read it here

[hollow crag]

This is another one of those things only no map players would know lmao I heard people are able to tell where they are with movements of trees and whatever

[buoyant ether]

HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO SURVIVE

WITH 40 MOBS AT ME AND THEN A FUCKIN EXPLOSIVE PLOBASDKHLJSADSADSJKADHA

[nocturne wolf]

Keep your health above 0 and everything will be ok

Are you in ashlands?

[wraith sun]

I have always played with map, but in 2 out of 4 playthroughs i found her due to her being noisy from a nearby mine
And once found her while searching for mines

[buoyant ether]

the stoning mf's alone are 😫 😫

[buoyant ether]

yeah

[nocturne wolf]

All ashlands enemies except charred and voltures have friendly fire. You can use this to easily clear large groups.

[hollow crag]

Ashlands? You should consider sneaking and sniping enemies while placing camp fires all around, it makes the experience way easier

[void abyss]

🍿

[hollow crag]

Especially when you alerted a bunch of enemies, lead them to a spawn proof area where they can't infinite spawn new enemies, and start reducing its numbers

[wraith sun]

I dug pits instead and harpooned all charred enemies into them, got a charred free island now where I can freely farm asksvins and vultures

[hollow crag]

That's a good strategy too, but idk about how big of an area effect that will have

[buoyant ether]

i have 0 of those options since the second i jump out of the fortress theyr all on me

[wraith sun]

All charred has a preset spawn like boars etc so when you don't kill them then new ones won't spawn in their place no matter how far away you move them

[void abyss]

🍿

[hollow crag]

Hmm I thought that only works within a small area

[nocturne wolf]

Only a few enemies (skeletons and growths, maybe others) have set spawn points. Boars spawned at runestones have one-time spawn points but all others are random.

[hollow crag]

Let me test this theory out some time

Ideally I would like to tame an 2 star asksvin as well, getting all the char mobs out of the Ashlands will be amazing

[wraith sun]

Yea but if you kill a boar that spawned near your base then it will respawn no matter how often you kill it (if you don't block the spawn with workbench etc) but if you put it into a pit then no new one will spawn in that area, even if you took it to the other side of the world

Works on greylings too

[hollow crag]

I see

[buoyant ether]

also if i stop moving for 10seconds again 30 mobs around me

what the shit honestly 😫

[wraith sun]

Just stop being noisy 😉

They love checking where sounds come from

Move slowly and let them come to you 1 by 1 or aggro them 1 by 1 with your arrows

[mystic gale]

has there been any mention of a crafting menu update? I cant find anything anymore after ashlands

like the cooking menu is the worst

[buoyant ether]

what cape should i be rocking ?

[buoyant ether]

sus-chan

[nocturne wolf]

Feather cape so you can stay out of the hitboxes of the 30 enemies you keep finding and jump attack in more situations
It has fire weakness but if you use fire resistance mead the weakness will be ignored so you will take the same damage as fire mead with no cape.

[buoyant ether]

im starting to hate ashlands 😭

[wraith sun]

You will love it once you get used to it

[azure yacht]

No

Not even wrong channel, that's wrong server overall

[fair cairn]

fell off the bus 60 miles ago

[azure yacht]

No one click that link btw

[fair cairn]

am 100% not gonna do that

here is what ill do though, block it

[surreal falcon]

And report it.

[ornate sigil]

that has hit almost every chat section....

[merry pebble]

already sent message to modmail 👍

why do you keep spamming the exact same message?

[azure yacht]

Guys, ignoring is easy...

[ornate sigil]

if they don't respond, can we assume its a bot?

[azure yacht]

Especially when they will be removed anyway

I already reported to modmail

[surreal falcon]

Almost definitely a bot. Obvious scam is obvious.

[half dragon]

and obviously don't click any links from obvious or even potential scammers/sussy people

[hidden gorge]

I hate spammers so much

[azure yacht]

w

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y

[ornate sigil]

man, so many blocked messages notification now....

[buoyant ether]

bot ?

[sterile summit]

yup

[ornate sigil]

more than likely. it has hit almst every chat section

[craggy mason]

@pliant ocean @dreamy kiln @floral zephyr

[hidden gorge]

what makes you think it's human?

[buoyant ether]

https://tenor.com/view/urmom-your-mom-baldi-defaultdance-gif-19665250

[merry pebble]

we shouldnt ping mods, thats what modmail is for 🙂

[craggy mason]

I didn't know we had modmail :x I'm used to pinging mods in servers when situations like this happen

[hidden gorge]

although, to be fair most servers I'm in are a bit smaller than this one -- and getting inevitably pinged for stupid stuff from entitled brats does get old pretty quick; I can see why they don't have it set up like that

[molten axle]

Yeah someone actively spamming shady links is a pretty acceptable mod ping lol

[dreamy kiln]

😎

thanks for the catch

[craggy mason]

I tried to message modmail and it required for verification and logging in browser ... kinda cba

[ornate sigil]

things have been quite for a little bit....might have been taken care of.

[craggy mason]

[ornate sigil]

And now, back to your regularly scheduled valheim stuffs.

[sly oyster]

man, silver age kinda crazy

you need so much silver

[fair cairn]

well yes, the silver sword alone needs 150 silver

[sly oyster]

at least with iron you could pull a boat up to the swamp

extracting 150 silver is, not great

[hidden gorge]

eh, just roll a cart down the mountainside to the shore

[crisp portal]

One of the most funny things to do at first.... Then spend hours trying to find the cart uehuehueuhe good days

but once silver age is over, little is used...

iron in the other hand...

[sly oyster]

i gotta go to a different mountain, this one i have near me is terrible, very few destructable areas and the slopes are covered in the jagged rocks for the cart to get stuck on

its so weird, this mountain is HUGE on the map, but its almost entirely gray

[crisp portal]

my first mountain had 4 veins only, adventure awaits

[sly oyster]

yeah the mountain just south of me had 5, and its three times the size of my spawn meadow

[finite lodge]

if you want someone to drive faster, you could say "lets go, petal to the metal!"

what would you say to someone sailing in a boat like in valheim?

[hidden gorge]

"may the wind be at your back"

and then you snicker, because it's valheim and it never is

"full sails!" might be another one, maybe prefaced with "anchor up" although sadly valheim doesn't have anchors

[open mortar]

Silver sword, frostner, or mistwalker for ashlands?

[nocturne wolf]

Use either sword and bring the frostner for starred charred warriors. The secondary attack is good for pushing them away.

[open mortar]

Sounds good

[gray sand]

Mistwalker. No question.

[open mortar]

Do you guys use magic? I was kinda having a hard time since there were so many mobs

[hidden gorge]

yes, fireballs work surprisingly well

[nocturne wolf]

Friendly fire is good for easily clearing large groups. All ashlands enemies except charred and voltures have friendly fire. Morgens and valkyries are very good for this.

[open mortar]

I c. Another lox into the tar pit situation

[hidden gorge]

not quite, since they're all allied to eachother. the damage is incidental, not on purpose (friendly fire)

[open mortar]

Hmm, ok

I dont even know what half of these are. So far ive fought those skeletons, a lava blob and vultures

[sharp raptor]

Lava bombs are also useful for causing friendly fire. You havent seen the big enemies yet then. And of the mistlands tier weapons mistwalker is best for ashlands in my opinion because of the slow and spirit damage.

[flat rain]

anyone wanna talk about builds and give tips and shit

[gray sand]

#building-discussion
I always tip my waiters.
And I do take a shit every day.

[plush umbra]

anybody here play on mac?

[wet lodge]

you get the chills raid started, but jokes on them - the island its on is 100% spawn proof

[nocturne wolf]

What raid was it? You could’ve missed out on useful materials.

[wet lodge]

cultists and miniboss

[hidden gorge]

I ain't gonna turn my nose up at some fenris hair delivered straight to my door

[open mortar]

Do you guys think eitr weave leggings, carapace chest and helm and feather cape is fine for starting ashlands?

[fossil delta]

Yeah, I have one raid proof island base and my starter base in the Meadows. Its nice to not have to worry about seekers, or once we defeat the Queen, the Ashlands events at one base, while we can hang out at the other to see what the raids are like.

[drowsy jolt]

Good afternoon everybody. My brother has a world where we play together. In the last few days, I can no longer connect to his world, nor can he connect to other worlds. I tried entering more worlds of other friends and it worked. But my brother can't access any world anymore. it already uses the "Open Server" and "Cross Server" function, even so, we were unable to enter. It only fails to connect. Does anybody know how to solve this?

[unreal bear]

he likely needs to update the game maybe

[drowsy jolt]

He uninstalled and reinstalled the game twice. I believe it is updated.

[open mortar]

Try cross server off

[drowsy jolt]

We tried that. But, the world doesn't appear to connect

[open mortar]

Can he send you the world and you try hosting?

[drowsy jolt]

We tried that too. It seems like the problem is with him. He can open the server and cannot connect either

[wet lodge]

now had 3 raids 3 days in a row...

[open mortar]

Ok so he cant connect nor host.

Does it work single player for him?

[unreal bear]

I played for hours the other day, kept sleeping and dodging all the raids. I had 0. the next time I logged in, I had like 3 in a row

[sly oyster]

the well looking structures with the stairs look like a really nice start to a mountain base

[drowsy jolt]

Yes, it work

[open mortar]

Make sure you are on the same game versions which is shown in the main menu, otherwise it might be some firewall issue im not sure

Others may know better than me

[median yarrow]

I have a question for fellow valheim players. I recently got a dedicated server with some friends and wanted to know if enemies can destroy bases even when we are not logged in. How is the enemy structure aggro decided?

[merry pebble]

If the chunk Is not loaded by player then enemies are passive, so no destroying stuff when nobody Is around 🙂

[median yarrow]

i did create my base on said chunk, if nobody goes near it no raid right?

[hidden gorge]

might be more appropriate to say if the chunk is not loaded by a player then the enemies aren't loaded either, but yeah enemies are only active when a player is around

[merry pebble]

Yep, + raids only happen if player Is in vicinity of at least 3 player base structures

[median yarrow]

okay that clears up a bunch, thanks ❤️

[drowsy jolt]

We just turned off the firewall and tried to connect again, but it still says "failed to connect"

[austere belfry]

I swear, everytime I sail in this game the wind is always blowing against the direction i want to go

[flat jasper]

only if there was something to help with that

[austere belfry]

lol

[frozen fable]

pro tip for you guys, if you want to destroy your longship so you can carry it to another spot and sail off from there, when you are destroying it, hit it where your mast is, when you hit the mast on the last hit that destroys the longship, all the materials spawn right there on you, so you won't have to go into the water to dig out the materials or lose them

[merry pebble]

just check if you have enough space and carry weight for all the mats first 😉

[azure yacht]

I thought everyone already did that...

[merry pebble]

there are always new players that might apreciate this info 🙂

[azure yacht]

Fair enough

I discovered that in order to train bow more efficiently it's better to just tap attack rather than full charging a you get exp from attack hit, not damage anyway.

For some reason, I always thought that was how people used to train bows when "fighting" bonemass (full bow charge)

[fair cairn]

do note, people with less than 500 hours play this

wait i replied to the wrong guy

[merry pebble]

ah, i was confused a bit there XD

[fair cairn]

sorry for the ping lol

[merry pebble]

already started writing snarky reply XD

no worries lol

[fair cairn]

do note people with less than 500 hours play this

i gotta say i keep clicking reply to the comment that is replying tot he comment i actually wanna reply to

[merry pebble]

tbf, if you have close to 500h and dont know this... something is wrong 😄

[fair cairn]

lets make it, people with less than.... a... hundred hours?

that is still too much though isnt it?

[merry pebble]

but much closer than 500 🙂

[fair cairn]

i did say "less" so everyone under 50 also falls in line

[merry pebble]

true

[azure yacht]

Let's make it "anyone under 121 minutes"

[fair cairn]

that is a very specific time

has it anything to do with the steam return policy being 120 minutes?

[frozen fable]

i have 1,153 hours played

[sharp raptor]

I just passed 1000 a few days ago

[raw ruin]

LFG fresh start server today

[merry pebble]

#1024264966712340510 😉

[open mortar]

wow, this could've saved me 40 minutes yesterday

well, now i know
thanks

[frozen fable]

i knew it would help someone 😄

[sterile hornet]

I'm pretty sure that the event will still happen but enemies won't spawn until a player enters the radius, at least it used to work that way. I could be mistakin tho

[runic helm]

||I got the new dyrnwyn sword, it has a higher slash but I’m not sure if it’s better then the Nidhogg with the iolite upgrade||

Ashlands info^^

But it’s a question for those who’ve been there

[azure yacht]

It's not

[runic helm]

Yea thats what I thought after messing around w it

I feel after that long grind and running to kingdom come and back they should buff the fire damage on

[azure yacht]

Ember staff is found one biome earlier and has 120 fire damage

Staff of fracturing is at the same tier and has 12 fire damage with potential to have 24 at level 3

FIRE ARROWS have 22 fire damage

Dyrnwyn has... 10 fire damage

I like to cope with the thought that they forgot to add another 0. 100 fire damage would be a very acceptable value even if the sword doesn't have anything more special

fire arrows...

[runic helm]

Yea I just run a mage build most of the time… like it’s just too good. I carry the berserker axe thundering w me for some melee but I don’t rly see a reason to run a melee build in the Ashlands.

And definitely it should have like 100 slash 100 fire. It’s literally on fire how does it do 10?!!?!

[sterile hornet]

You fall into a deep sleep and only dream of darkness.

[void skiff]

is yagluth weak to ice damage

[trail lotus]

he sure dont like it 🤣

[unique onyx]

https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Yagluth

basically use anything but everybody likes spirit for it

[merry pebble]

Best weapons for Yag are silver sword, BM sword and Forstner, bow Is not good for him but if you really want to use it go for frost arrows

[azure yacht]

Frostner is better than BM sword vs yag

[merry pebble]

They do the same total dmg

And Frostner has some of it in dot

[robust delta]

do dots stack?

[azure yacht]

Spirit does iirc

In which case it might deal more dmg on the long term

[robust delta]

i ain't good at math but-
yeah that's what i was thinking. bad start but then climbs up to then be higher in the long run

[azure yacht]

It does

https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Damage?so=search#Spirit

[merry pebble]

Wasntfire the only one that stacked? 🤔

[azure yacht]

Even with frostner's slower attack than BM sword, you should always be able to hit yag at least twice per attempt, in which case it already deals more damage than BM

Only advantage between them is if you don't have and don't want to use frostner BM sword is still a very close choice

gj on the devs for making BM sword decently relevant

[merry pebble]

Yeah, since it stacks then yeah, it Is the better choice 😄

[buoyant reef]

Are the earlygame foods so boar meat heavy to promote people taming and breeding boars?

[void skiff]

carapace buckler or carapace shield

i cant seem to chose

[buoyant reef]

How well do you perfect block?

[nocturne wolf]

Do you use 2 stamina food or 2 health food?

[void skiff]

stamina

[nocturne wolf]

Use a buckler then

The high parrying block armor will allow you to parry more attacks with 2 stamina, and the higher stamina cost of a parry isn’t as much of an issue

[void skiff]

what if health

[buoyant reef]

Buckler has 78-90 block power while shield has 96-108 block power
When parrying, the buckler has 195-225 block power while the shield has 144-162 block power

Shield has 20-23% more non-parry block power
Buckler has 35-39% more parrying power

[nocturne wolf]

The normal shield’s blocking uses low stamina, so it helps when recovering stamina which you need to do more with a health diet.

[buoyant reef]

Generally I like bucklers better. As long as I successfully parry, a buckler is much more likely to succeed against the next biome's enemies than a shield is

Even if I haven't been able to upgrade my food or armor yet

[sharp raptor]

I prefer buckler when the biome has it but since ashlands didnt have one I tried shield for a bit but ultimately went with tower shield for the biome and have been enjoying it.

[nocturne wolf]

All shield types are good if you know how to use them

[sharp raptor]

The 3X dmg bonus on the carapace buckler was very nice for so long. But didnt get a new buckler sadly

[buoyant reef]

For the most part I think anything a shield can do, a buckler or tower shield can do it better depending on your needs. Shields are mostly for people that aren't very good at parrying consistently yet or for people who prefer versatility

But this opinion is based on the stats on the wiki and in-game. There may be some hidden stats I don't know about that further differentiate the different types of shields

[nocturne wolf]

Staggered enemies always take 2x damage

[buoyant reef]

Is block force the amount of knockback that's blocked?

[nocturne wolf]

Knockback is blocked by the block armor. Block force is knockback applied to blocked enemies.

[robust delta]

would dot also help for ensuring the damage while u kite or naw not really?

[nocturne wolf]

Tower shields have very high block force so you can quickly separate groups with one

[sharp raptor]

Thought carapace buckler had a 3X parry bonus? Maybe im misunderstanding what that stat means

[nocturne wolf]

Parry bonus multiplies block armor, which is why parrying reduces more damage than blocking.

[buoyant reef]

All bucklers have 2.5x block bonus when parrying, compared to shields having 1.5x and tower shields not being able to parry at all

But that's a multiplier on the block strength, not on the damage

Unless I was totally misunderstanding the details this whole time

[nocturne wolf]

Two-handed weapons usually (or always, I don’t know) have 2x

[azure yacht]

Yes, but only a little. It's not like 20 spirit would do much, maybe on the long-term

[robust delta]

thx for the clari

[nocturne wolf]

Parry bonus only multiplies block armor. Staggered enemies take 2x damage.

[robust delta]

parry this filthy casual
oh what th- bonk

i find it so silly yet cool that you can perfect block projectiles

[buoyant reef]

If I recall correctly they removed that once but then put it back because it was fun

[nocturne wolf]

Why would it be removed? Projectiles are just as much of an enemy attack as melee, so parrying them should have the same effect in combat.

[buoyant reef]

Because it didn't make sense that parrying a projectile would stagger the enemy. You could still parry but it wouldn't stagger them. They put it back not long later though.

[surreal falcon]

I don't need them right now, but is the BRS still a thing?

[sharp raptor]

Yes

[azure yacht]

Because ranged enemies lost their unique advantage over melee enemies

It always annoyed me that they re-implemented it and still wished it was removed again.

Although what bugs me is the fact that the enemy can be staggered, not the parry itself

[hidden gorge]

I personally love the fact that ranged enemies get staggered

they're like, "whoa -- you parried my arrow with your blade, that's soo cool!" and they're stunned into awe

its a fun little element that doesn't majorly affect balance -- ranged weapons have plenty of other advantages over melee, being able to attack from outside melee range being a big one