valheim-chat

[ornate sigil]

isn't is basically a loop of pre-generated blurs?

[vocal rivet]

I mean, it's calculated many, many more times often than Valheim does anything.

[vernal karma]

like comfort auras, structural integrity checks, and the random and reshape-able nature of the world?

[sharp bluff]

valheim also has far far more entities and pseudo-entities to deal with

[tight yacht]

its also tracking fuel consumption, animal breeding, plant growth cycles...

comparing it to a racing game is a joke

[void gyro]

what is the best cape to use in the swamp?

[vernal karma]

dont stay out at night, and know when to retreat :] i would suggest having at least 20 armor entering swamp for the first time, troll armor is great because it is high armor and high speed.

[tight yacht]

trollskin

[vernal karma]

Always have rested, always always always at all times in valheim 🙂

[void gyro]

really?

[sharp bluff]

you can "cheat" some of those but ye

[tight yacht]

you can always cheat things in programming but the point is there is a ton of stuff happening in the background that make this unlike any other game

[void gyro]

kinda disappointed

[sharp bluff]

not unlike any other but that was my point to begin with: optics can be extremely deceiving when it comes to performance

[tight yacht]

saying it should run amazing (which for me it does?) because it "looks bad compared to 'modern' games" is also demonstrating pretty poor understanding of what makes a game complex and resource intensive or not

[sharp bluff]

amen

[royal blaze]

That's impressive! They should make planting and growing stuff better, I've tried to put so many trees inside the walls (perimeter) of my base yet I cannot getthe trees to grow unless I destroy everything around. The Ashlands plant that goes on walls has been so hard to grow too since I want to keep cohesion of everything on my base. And it's become pretty laggy too.

[tight yacht]

high res textures are the laziest and also usually most memory hungry ways of making a 'modern' game

thats why games like COD are basically unchanged for decades and yet somehow have memory costs in the multi-gigabyte range

[sharp bluff]

compare that to elden ring which is almost entirely hard carried by the art direction

[tight yacht]

or this game with its shader magic

[regal mural]

Yeah plants indoor growing needs a lot of planning, but it is very satisfying top have a small three inside, also very frustrating when you destroy it by accident

[tight yacht]

no amount of high res textures will be able to capture the feeling of a smoke filled room with firelight flickering and casting shadows

or mist on the water in a dark night in the swamp, with an eerie glow coming off the green torches and guck pods

[vocal vale]

Both capes have the same stats but troll has sneak which is practically useless

[paper marsh]

Just use Deer

[void gyro]

nah i already using the troll cape

[vernal karma]

In regards to optimization, what confuses me a litle, is how a free minecraft mod so massively improved performance, when microsoft is a trillion dollar tech corp. how does a few random guys do it better? was the mod optifine? it's been a long time since i played.

[sharp bluff]

how? by giving a fuck

why would MS invest in making Minecraft slightly less shit performance wise?

[tight yacht]

same with skyrim mods

[vernal karma]

Because performance on cheaper computers is very important for mass appeal, look at ALL top steam games, and fortnite.

[sharp bluff]

minecraft is already by far the most popular game in existence

[vernal karma]

Minecraft is a massive milking cow for MS. wich is why that 15 year old game gets constant patches.

[tight yacht]

i play valheim on my laptop without any issues, idk where this idea that valheim is unplayable on low-end hardware is coming from

[sharp bluff]

yeah
but why would they invest their engineering hours into performance when new conent matters more?

[tight yacht]

and yes, if you are developing a game you will look at steam data and chose effects and engines that allow a broader range of hardware to run your game

the other part is after the game releases, there is always some performance thing you can do, but unless its literally unplayable, thats usually not the best use of your time

and dont misunderstand what i mean by "unplayable"

i mean literally unplayable to the point that your steam review scores tank and people are refunding

[vernal karma]

considdering the job is being done for free by a few dedicated fans, i assume it would be an easy job to do quick for such a mega corp, unless the problem is that they actually do not have the best engineers, and modders are better. I would not be surprised.

[sharp bluff]

the MS engineers are far more skilled
but their office hours are far too valuable to waste them on already sufficient MC performance

[vernal karma]

i would not say MC's performance today is sufficient, i had problems on my 980ti years ago and just gave up instead of playing on 2011 settings.

[sharp bluff]

its more than sufficient

[vernal karma]

not tried it today with new PC

[tight yacht]

i have a feeling this guys definition of unplayable/bad performance is a lot different than most...

[vernal karma]

what is funny is how it ran on portable school laptops 15 years ago, obvious reasons for that being graphics creep and the wish for long render distances.

[sharp bluff]

very much so
"unplayable" is truly reserved for the worst of the worst

[tight yacht]

every bit of render distance is an exponential increase in the processing power required

tons of effort is put into tricking people into thinking they are seeing further, or tricking them into not noticing they arent seeing that far

[sharp bluff]

quadratic functions are fun

[vernal karma]

seems like nanite could be a game changer for that feeling

[tight yacht]

nanite is a joke for gaming

i hope people dont use that as a crutch like they already do for massive res textures

if someone is using nanite for what you normally associate with open-world large-draw-distance stuff (grass, trees, bushes, etc), say goodbye to any vertex shaders

[vernal karma]

is it not effective in giving longer view distances for lower performance hits?

[tight yacht]

your 50 billion vertex tree alone will crash your GPU if you try to add wind to it

[tight yacht]

it is, in the complete absence of vertex shaders

i.e. wind or things that move vertexes around in GPU space

once you start moving vertexes, nanite fails hard. or at least it did when i tried using it for grass with wind

[sharp bluff]

there is always some form of trade-off
the question is whether you give a fuck about the sacrifice xd

[tight yacht]

if you want a static environment with tons of vertexes, or if you dont care about render times like for a movie CGI shot or something, nanite is amazing

but if you want a living world with vertexes that move for whatever reason, then its not a solution unfortunately

[sharp bluff]

tbf wind on grass is a killer for most engines

[vocal rivet]

23 minutes.

[tight yacht]

depends how they do it. but yeah grass in general, wind or not usually is enormously expensive depending on how its done

[vernal karma]

i dont know how valheim could add a pretty backdrop, i dont need the backdrop to have weather, but the absolute least i expect is seeing the trees and rocks that are supposed to be visible, IE within the view distance i can see land.

[tight yacht]

that wont be feasible and get good performance

[sharp bluff]

and the more you add in detail the worse it gets...

[vernal karma]

is the moving trees a big performance cost in valheim?

resource sink, whatever you'd call it.

[tight yacht]

depends on the number of vertexes

moving foliage, and foliage in general, are always expensive

valheim made the smart decision to not even have a texture on the grass

its just a color and probably a card with transparency

[vernal karma]

seeing trees move 50m away is very cool, but i dont need to see grass move, or trees 500m away move.

[tight yacht]

i doubt they are moving at that distance

or if they are, its a billboard not the actual mesh

[vernal karma]

not sure, but i have noticed that weather in valheim looks great, and trees moving in a storm is very cool.

[tight yacht]

yep, thats a vertex shader

and it being a vertex shader means its performance cost is multiplied by however many vertexes you are using it on

[sharp bluff]

and the more you use the more precise the movement will be...

[vernal karma]

so it wont stutter?

[tight yacht]

which is also why nanite wont be the wonder tool a lot of devs think it is because so many cool game effects are also vertex shaders, and adding meshes with 100,000 vertexes isnt going to work at all

[vernal karma]

less vertexes = stuttering movement?

[tight yacht]

less vertexes = better performance

vertex is a single point that makes up a polygon, a polygon is a physical thing in the game world

more vertexes = higher res polygon, things look smoother and more detailed
less vertexes = things look more angular, blocky, less round, but use less resources

minecraft is like, the ultimate in low poly

everything is just a cube. the only way they could have made it take less resources is if they had used a triangle lol

[vernal karma]

why not just have a distance where vertexes apply and nanite ends? so you get a backdrop with nanite making it looks great at for example 100m+, and only use weather-effects at less then 100m or 20m, whatever is appropriate.

[sharp bluff]

and said cube is almost certainly only a single point in most calculations

no dimensions means no problems lmao

[tight yacht]

when i used unreal you had to select one or the other. i guess you could split them across multiple assets and load those as needed but i doubt that would be more performant (and also kinda ruins the point of nanite which was not needing to make LODs in the first place)

[sharp bluff]

as for box detection... render 5 blocks in each direction

[tight yacht]

point is if you want to use vertex shaders heavily, you probably want to roll your own LODs

if the thing doesnt need vertex shaders, sure go nanite

[sharp bluff]

i vaguely remember LODs being an absolute performance killer in skyrim
but Bethesda has been trolling for two decades straight at this point

[daring sinew]

HELP is there a way to retrieve an item underwater

[tight yacht]

there were a lot of things in skyrim that killed its performance lol...its the only game i ever pirated because it absolutely did not work on the PS4 or whatever i had at the time

[tight yacht]

probably gotta console command fly or dive onto it from high up

[hearty niche]

Nanite seems a lot like the megatexture thing Idtech... 4? introduced.

[daring sinew]

like deep water

[sharp bluff]

jumping from sufficient height
beware tho: water turns bouncy at high velocity

[daring sinew]

hmmmmm

[tight yacht]

like ocean? idk man might be toast

[tight yacht]

its amazingly advanced for what it does, its just that adding in extremely high vertex assets will always screw with vertex shaders

[daring sinew]

if i level the ground will it rise to the top

its not in the middle its on the coast

[tight yacht]

leveling ground would work yeah

or building a diving platform and jumping

notice that the scenery they chose for the nanite reveal trailer was...a desert lol. with no foliage.

there was a reason for that. its a natural environment that looks great without any plants moving around

once you want plants that move around all bets are off

[daring sinew]

the jump method worked thanks guys

[hearty niche]

Friends and I had a fun diving competition once when our boat got Pearl Harbor'd in the mistlands

[sharp bluff]

i remember the ancient forest in mh world
did it look great? ye
did the fps giga tank when it rained? also ye

[vernal karma]

what is the reason we can't use the hammer in water?

[hearty niche]

Try swinging a hammer when you're in water, lemme know how ya make out

Ultimately I think it's to prevent players from doing hinky things like building ont he bottom of oceans

[tight yacht]

you can if you do something to force your viking on the ground underwater

like building an angled roof that forces you down, or being under a boat

[vernal karma]

no, but i can pick up an iron reinforced log, and swim down 10m with it and lay it underwater :p

[hearty niche]

You just can't use one while swimming I think?

I've been neglecting my Valheim world

[tight yacht]

thats why if you are forced to the bottom somehow you start walking and can craft again

[sharp bluff]

ngl, the way they coded the water is pretty fun

[tight yacht]

the sailing in this game is insane

well, its pretty simple, but it looks beautiful

[hearty niche]

Yeah I think it works really well. The first time we arrived back from an epic journey to see the base all lit up... epic gaming moment for me.

[sharp bluff]

the insane part is how primitive it is and how well it works

[tight yacht]

oh im sure they put a ton of work into the shaders of this game

its probably low poly by necessity lol, otherwise it would trash your GPU

[vocal rivet]

Valheim barely scratches the GPU, it's far more CPU intensive.

[tight yacht]

otherwise it would trash your GPU implies it does not trash your GPU

but there are so many things that move in the wind if it was higher poly it would cost a ton

the building feature alone is probably taking most of the GPU

[vernal karma]

what part of it, comfort, or integrity or rendering the pieces themselves?

[tight yacht]

integrity for sure

[vernal karma]

would it help to just check integrity less often?

[tight yacht]

comfort is probably just a capsule around the fires

[sharp bluff]

kinda, terraforming and large farms are almost as bad

[tight yacht]

yes, and they do this, you can tell because if you are fast enough you can build things that shouldnt be stable

[tight yacht]

that too yeah, terraforming is rough if you do it a bunch in an area

[vernal karma]

it's not, it's a capsule aroundevery piece of furniture, it changes not depending on the fires location, but every piece of comfort furniture, that is why i argued for a fire-centered aura like the workbench.

[tight yacht]

yeah each furniture would have its own capsule, but those are super easy to do

[vernal karma]

unless it changed in ashlands patch

[tight yacht]

a capsule is just an xyz coord, and a radius. almost no data

[vernal karma]

i think that was the case before mistlands, wich allowed basically infinite stability, i think it is accurate now.

[tight yacht]

stuff like shelter and blocking rain probably takes more

since it needs to trace to the ground from where it hits the roof

[paper marsh]

Man, characters really do look so ugly when dressed in 4 different outfits at once 😂

Darn you efficiency!

[tight yacht]

padded helmet, root harnesk, fenris legs, lox cape

[vernal karma]

lox cape looks ugly, use wolf

[sharp bluff]

can probably be optimized by grouping objects

[digital wave]

thats the only reason i dont dress in meta armor. i will always dress with matching pieces

[tight yacht]

how do you mean?

[tight yacht]

thts a great point tho. i put mine on an armor rack in the bedroom because it looks so good

when im out in the world raiding i want to look skungy

[sharp bluff]

stacking objects under their highest piece and put all under a roof piece on ignore

[tight yacht]

they might do that already. idk, cant tell just by looking at it in the game world

[sharp bluff]

almost certainly cuz otherwise large builds would instantly implode your cpu xd

[vernal karma]

if blocking rain is a big hit to performance, would it be more efficient to make ultra-compact builds?

[sharp bluff]

it probably isnt a big hit
most of the calcs are semi 2-dimensional

[tight yacht]

i think for a lot of reasons a smaller build is less resource intensive

[sharp bluff]

and calcs in 2 dimensions dont matter xd

other calcs are worse me thinks

[tight yacht]

but personally i dont notice except in specific cases even with my big build

the point lights and shadows are probably a big one

thats why they have their own separate graphics option, since those are raycasting out in 3d

[sharp bluff]

shadows are a premier performance murder

ESPECIALLY if foliage is involved

shadows on grass are kekw

[tight yacht]

yeah honestly the best bet if you absolutely HAVE to have shadows, is ambient occlusion or something

i just made the grass color get darker as a function of Z height on mine

[sharp bluff]

thats... efficient

[tight yacht]

that basically did the same thing, at least on the foliage itself. the ground would be same brightness though

so the trick is have enough grass they dont see the ground : )

[sharp bluff]

the trick to optimization is figuring out how much stuff you can put on hold in regards to calculation

[tight yacht]

why arent i auto-pickup eggs?

[paper marsh]

Just not a thing sadly

[tight yacht]

it wouldnt be so bad if their hitboxes didnt also block you from getting the eggs

[cinder echo]

i love how you need a level 6 black forge to make a level 3 bow........

[paper marsh]

I don't.

But I don't hate it either

[oak river]

I mean, if it didn't take a level 6 black forge then why would you make it

Make the forge upgrades I mean

[cinder echo]

you cant get level 6 right now lol

[oak river]

Ohhh

That's silly

[daring sinew]

how do servers work

like do you keep all your stuff when you join a server

[velvet harbor]

as long as u pick the character with stuff yea

[paper marsh]

some servers might have rules that you gotta start fresh though

[daring sinew]

even the resources that say "can't be teleported"

[cinder echo]

it doesnt make any sense as you need a level 5 galdr table to make rank 4 magic stuff? It actually makes no sense lol

[digital wave]

yup thats actually how many people cheese it

[tight yacht]

roots recharge after a bit right?

[paper marsh]

yea

[tight yacht]

so im guessing even severe root usage only requires like 2-4

[paper marsh]

yea

You don't need more than one extractor per root

[dusty silo]

can you have a roof over gardens ?

[tight yacht]

no, they need open sky

where the mines at

mistlands are impossible to find anything in

[dusty silo]

struggling with so many blimp tick layers around us to have a farm

[distant field]

Stick to the edges for farming in the lands of mist.

[dusty silo]

we have been they come out like crazy 😭

[distant field]

Hmm. I’d find somewhere less dangerous in that case.

[ornate sigil]

I just witnessed very ironic karma in action. A abomination caused a tree to fall and it hit the abom, finishing it off.

[drowsy citrus]

anyone ever try the bat ram on a flametal node?

[snow raptor]

any tips on hjow to build with grausten roofs. It keeps collapsing when its still green

[tight yacht]

is there any reason to keep boar post-plains?

[paper marsh]

Spawn proof the area

[paper marsh]

I’d say no, unless you want sausages for base food

[tight yacht]

they gone

[narrow cloud]

yo these asksvins arent taming in my little pit that i made for them

anyone got tips?

[steel copper]

puffs or vineberrys then move away far enough until they chill and you see yellow hearts

[ebon oyster]

I have a boss summon location right next to a different biome with much harder enemies. If I summon the boss and then lure them over, will they fight?

The boss is bonemass and the nearby enemies are fulings and loxes

[paper marsh]

Sadly not. Bosses are allied with all enemies

Although, bonemass does spawn swamp enemies during the fight. Those enemies would start fighting the fulings/lox, but probably a bad idea

[steel copper]

yeah, only tamed animals will fight bosses

[smoky quarry]

wooden arrows and a wonky bow are the best weapons vs bonemass

[ebon oyster]

I hate bonemass lol

I usually raise the ground then build a portal and use the stag breaker over and over

[ebon oyster]

Thanks for the info

[paper marsh]

Don't even need to raise ground for that. Can just go on the skull that summons him

[smoky quarry]

i found bonemass the easiest, all you need ||is poison potion & some armor + a mace.||

[paper marsh]

I found Eikthyr the easiest

[visual sparrow]

The difficulty spike between mistlands and ashlands is utterly insane

[paper marsh]

Not any bigger than between black forest and swamp imo

[ebon oyster]

That ha sme concerned lol

[narrow cloud]

i totally agree

and mistlands was already hard af imo

[smoky quarry]

One does not simply walk into Ashlands

[narrow cloud]

https://tenor.com/view/does-not-simply-mordor-facepalm-lord-of-the-rings-gif-14797001

[finite lodge]

if i use a gemstone to upgrade a weapon does it do damage based on my elemental skill or that particular weapon skill

[finite lodge]

you can take an abomination with you to the plains and he will be your champion for as long as there arent any elite fuling brutes hanging out nearby xD

[fossil salmon]

I don't like that when I throw several ||vineberries ||they always merge into one pile

[tight yacht]

Do i need to build a mistlands base now? Can barley be grown in mistlands?

[pearl plaza]

Has there been an update on when the new patch is going to release? Stone portals and magmafish have been broken since release and that hasn't been hotfixed yet?

[eternal raven]

no

in mistland they are 2 other plants u can grow there

[tight yacht]

Is it worth building an endgame base in mistlands or should I stick to plains

[final lily]

Yeah you probably will want a Mistlands base. The mushrooms from that biome can only be grown locally, and you'll want them

[tight yacht]

Might just do a farming outpost though

[final lily]

Furthermore, you need to manage your sap extractors regularly

[eternal raven]

or maybe take the dwarf base

[tight yacht]

Can portal all of that out though

[eternal raven]

yes

[final lily]

don't be afraid - embrace the mists!

[eternal raven]

can't see a damn thing and then there a sound of a horror. you don't know where it came from

and bam 2 fireball hits u

[final lily]

just take your mistlight off and crouch - nothing will see you

especially not Gjall - they can't see down through the mists if you aren't glowing

[eternal raven]

im a mage so im just running like a chicken

[tight yacht]

I dunno, plains are nice though. I've got a massive farm with lox already

[final lily]

yes, plains were very nice. It's time to move on though

[tight yacht]

Is it worth moving/ leaving all that

[eternal raven]

but u can't grow mushroom andd puf

[tight yacht]

Can I grow barley in the mistlands?

[eternal raven]

if u not playing mage no need to grow mushroom

[final lily]

definitely, yes. All that plains farmed food is obsolete now anyways

[final lily]

Misthare Supreme needs mushrooms

[tight yacht]

How about this

[final lily]

you cann't grow barley outside of plains, no.

[tight yacht]

Does anything need lox or flour?

[final lily]

why would you want to though? Barley food is obsolete once you get all that juicy Mistlands food

[tight yacht]

True...

Well I guess I'm moving

[eternal raven]

no mushroom but need puf

[final lily]

If you are patient enough to fish for Anglers, you can make Fish'n'Bread, which requires a minimal amount of bread dough, but most people don't bother spending much time doing that really. Your staple foods can all be made without any plains material

[final lily]

pretty sure jotun puffs are mushrooms xD

[coral birch]

ello im new to valheim, any tips for beginners?

[eternal raven]

i just call it puf

[eternal raven]

don't die and gitgud

[final lily]

Welcome! Enjoy the view, and try to forgive yourself for the many mistakes you are about to make on your journey

[coral birch]

okok

[coral birch]

okayy

[eternal raven]

well to be real it have a lot of weapon for u to choose, enemy weak point, food for health and stamina and a lot of more u need to know

but first u need to learn how to dodge enemy attack

[coral birch]

damn

this gonna be a long journey

[final lily]

yeah totally, which is why I recommend that you try to enjoy the view 🙂

it's quite scenic

[eternal raven]

ohh at night the sky

[coral birch]

for sure 👍

[final lily]

Try to over-prepare for anything and everything that you do. You'll find that if you're exceptionally well prepared, this game can be easy. The moment that you are slightly under-prepared, however, Valheim will chew you up and spit you back out again

[eternal raven]

oh yeah even in normal setting the game still want u dead

[final lily]

tru facts

[coral birch]

O no

[eternal raven]

last night me and the boi fight ashland boss and I keep summon troll and they yell at me for bring and idiot warlock

[final lily]

hahaha xD

[tacit crown]

You'll also get lung cancer when playing, it's in the tos

[coral birch]

loll

[eternal raven]

oh yeah sorry I spoil a bit

[coral birch]

damn

[tacit crown]

Yeah sorry mate

[coral birch]

no worry

[eternal raven]

if like funny gameplay video and learn a little about the game zanny kinda ok to watch

he makes me hook to valheim and also letgameitout

[coral birch]

at youtube?

[eternal raven]

yeah

[coral birch]

okay imma try it

[tacit crown]

No, go in head first

[final lily]

tip #2 from me:
play with friends. If you don't have any, make some. #1024264966712340510 is a good place to start

[coral birch]

i already once, and get killed by something like pig ;-

[eternal raven]

boar

[final lily]

haha, yeah that happens to the best of us from tiem to time, its ok 😂

[tacit crown]

You'll learn sir, that's the point

[coral birch]

okok thanks for the information 😁

[royal blaze]

Is it worth upgrading the Trollstav?

[coral birch]

ah

[coral birch]

okay

[eternal raven]

my first dead is drowning

[final lily]

Dodge-roll is really strong in this game. Practice it - it will save your life

[eternal raven]

if u solo sure if u play with friend i won't recommand using it while fight boss

trollstav kinda help when horde of enemy coming sometime

[coral birch]

is there anyway to make stamina much longer?

[eternal raven]

berry or honey

[coral birch]

thats a food?

[final lily]

yeah - eating food with bonus to stamina will increase your total stamina bar-size. Furthermore, ALWAYS be rested (sit by a fire) to increase your stamina regin speed by +100%

[eternal raven]

early game food

[final lily]

In the very-early game, berries and honey are the easiest sources of stamina. Eventually you will be able to farm carrots and other things which can make much better quality food

[coral birch]

okkok imma try it rn, thx for the information 😁

[final lily]

I just said it a second ago - i'm gonna say it again to emphasize my point. always be well-rested

[coral birch]

oka👍

[eternal raven]

1 more thing use it when u raid fortess

[final lily]

and have a plan for how to re-apply rested if you see you're about to lose the buff

[tacit crown]

Odin doesn't favor cowards

[eternal raven]

hey im a chicken

[final lily]

easiest way is to build a campfire and simply sit down, though if it's raining, you'll need shelter. Furthermore, you can extend the duration of the rested buff by adding comfort to the place where you're resting

[eternal raven]

rest give u 50% exp boots

[tacit crown]

Fair enough

[final lily]

yeah it gives xp boost too I guess... whatever. The key thing is that +100% stamina regen - you're dead without it

[coral birch]

okok i got it

[eternal raven]

as a wizard / warlock i will say "2 hits with no shield im gone"

[coral birch]

thanks for helping me out

[eternal raven]

no prob

[final lily]

anytime! enjoy the game!

[tacit crown]

🫃

[eternal raven]

what

[tacit crown]

There is nothing that I enjoy more than mass murdering my chickens

[eternal raven]

ahh kfc

[finite lodge]

if i use a gemstone to upgrade a weapon does it do damage based on my elemental skill or that particular weapon skill

[final lily]

pretty sure its all dependent upon that particular weapon's skill, but I can''t say for certain

[ebon oyster]

I played a bunch earlier this year and used a bunch of mods so I deleted and started over vanilla. Feels good so far.

[verbal radish]

Can catapult payload destroy terrain ?

[finite lodge]

is dundyr any good

[eternal raven]

not with horde of enemy

[eternal raven]

I don't think so

[rain furnace]

I played mods for first time ever earlier this year... played on a dedicated server where host had like 15-20 mods going. had a blast! back to solo vanilla for firelands but the server with other players and QoL mods was game changing

[hexed dove]

How many fortresses did you do before you discovered Ashlands boss?

It’s getting tiring doing the same chaotic content for little reward. There’s barely any gems in these.

[raw jolt]

Little reward? Wouldn't say that

[celest wing]

Man yagluth was way easier than I remember

[fossil salmon]

Then it's time to fight two at the same time.

[celest wing]

Pfft

[eternal raven]

god damn the game really put elder near plain. fight a tree and mosquito with troll armor

best world generate

[vocal rivet]

There are 3 other Elder spots that might be better.

[winter roost]

Anyone want some help with anything on in there world

[eternal raven]

im stick to this one cuz i got swamp and plain near it

just watching the raid of greydwarf fight 1 star goblin

god damn that green man so strong

[celest wing]

Yeah lol

[eternal raven]

2 trolls lost to 3 mosquitos

[drowsy herald]

what preps do i need before ashlands

[eternal raven]

just don't use feather cape

[drowsy herald]

damn

[eternal raven]

also prepare some arrow or bolt cuz u will need alot when u enter ashland ocean

when u hit the land just run and find the Dvergr to help u cuz thoes ashland spawner just print out enemies

and u can take Dvergr base to settle

[celest wing]

Drakkar obviously, but you'll be better off as a mage as fighting up close is tougher due to perpetually being swarmed, especially when making it to shore. Really try to find some ruins to settle in and place a portal there

[eternal raven]

don't forget shield generator

if morgen coming to u just pull him away from your base cuz that guy will destroy your base in only 4 ses

[fair cairn]

prepare for D-day but in valheim

[eternal raven]

oh yeah if u play as mage just know in ashland if the shield u cast break just run until u cast another one.
New staff in ashland the staff of the wild can help u kill a horde of enemy

[merry pebble]

and that might not be enough for some 😄

[knotty adder]

this got fixed? I got the same problem now

[buoyant ether]

so when/how do i get carapace armor

[sharp bluff]

sigh, my moder spawn is completed surrounded by mistlands

[sharp bluff]

dont forget softening them up with a trollstav as opener

[wraith sun]

Then find another moder, there is usually like 3 moders on the map

[sharp bluff]

i am
but that will take a while

[modern moon]

does staff of the wild level/scale with ele magic?

[wraith sun]

Easy way to find out is to use it on a new charachter and see what skill levels up and check the staffs stat first stat is max effect and the number next to in (number here) is the stat it has depending on skill level

[sharp bluff]

or you can take a quick glance at the wiki

[eternal raven]

yes

[buoyant ether]

how to get staffs ?

[eternal raven]

build the Galdr table

Black metal x10
Yggdrasil wood x20
Black core x5
Refined eitr x5

[eternal raven]

u build Eitr refinery yet?

[buoyant ether]

man i rly need to git gud, a few fulings fuck me so ez

and nah i havent

[eternal raven]

what about sap extractor

[buoyant ether]

nope 😭

[eternal raven]

oh man

so first find Dvergr base and then let them fight with the seekers. after that if all the Dvergr die go in they base and find the create that hold Dvergr extractor that need to craft the sap extractor.

man u really in early mistland. don't worry u will be fine and running if u heard a horn sound when there a lot of mist

[buoyant ether]

okay i think im never getting good at the combat

[winter roost]

Best way to build a bridge across a big gap over water

[buoyant ether]

the way the enemies move with those hitboxes is so hard to get hits in, and still just like one hit is 30+hp off of me

[sharp bluff]

thats what i thought about Dark Souls too...

[eternal raven]

don't worry im the same im finished the game as a chicken mage

[buoyant ether]

nah dark souls combat is way easier

ive played thru ds3, elden 5 times, lies of p 3 times

[sharp bluff]

lol, lmao even

[buoyant ether]

i feel like here theres a trick to combat ? maybe im not getting ti

[eternal raven]

yeah compare them with valheim kinda not good cuz valheim have the health system that can parry enemy and other more that different from soul game

[sharp bluff]

now thats the best joke i have heard today

[eternal raven]

if your shield cannot take the dmg from the enemy output u will take that dmg and stun. so u need to eat food that give alot of health and craft a shield that have high armor

[eternal raven]

ik some of the mechanic are the same but still have few different

[sharp bluff]

the differences are very small
and the valheim frame data is sooo much more generous

[eternal raven]

well i can't talk much about soul game cuz i only watch them

[buoyant ether]

frame data ?

but yeah theres a fuckton of similiarity within these games

[sharp bluff]

parry frames in valheim are trivial

[eternal raven]

yeah u right

[sharp bluff]

like, double DS? and the parry is instant or near instant too, so that helps

[slender tinsel]

real question, bronze mace or bronze sword, quick answers

[sharp bluff]

mace

[eternal raven]

u can lvl sword to use in late game

[pliant hatch]

Depends at the area you're in and the monsters / boss you need to fight.

[slender tinsel]

dark forest

[eternal raven]

oh

[sharp bluff]

bronze means he will be in the swamp veeeery soon
and mace is mandatory there

[eternal raven]

axe better with elder

[buoyant ether]

so parrying is better than rolling ?

[pliant hatch]

Mace will be best in there, but the Greydwarfs are very easy kills with the sword.

Can use sword on The Elder too.

[sharp bluff]

grey dwarves are easy kills with the basic club as well... this aint the benchmark you wanna use

[eternal raven]

it stuns enemy and make them take a crit dmg when u attack

axe that elder lik u axe that pine tree

[sharp bluff]

parrying is the quickest way to kill most enemies quickly

[pliant hatch]

They're even easy kills with your fists, so with that in mind you might as well run without weapons.

[sharp bluff]

point being you dont pick your weapons for the current biome but for the next

[eternal raven]

just roll when the big guy do the big dmg attack

[sharp bluff]

if you can parry you are better of parrying but some attacks can break your parry so thats when you roll

[pliant hatch]

Yup. And with that in mind, the sword works better against the Draugr and Leeches, while the mace works better against the Blobs and Skellies.

So it may be best to have both weapons on you and switch depending at the opponent you need to deal with.

[sharp bluff]

or when lingering aoe attacks go down like bonemass breath

[eternal raven]

god damn i been running with the axe isn't ok

[slender tinsel]

ty

[sharp bluff]

draugr is equal
problem are the abominations

[eternal raven]

axe him?

[sharp bluff]

axe usually, ye

[pliant hatch]

Put fire arrows in him. Works like a charm.

[eternal raven]

i been playing mage too much idk what enemy are weak too

[buoyant ether]

and how do yall handle a fuling camp ? they all come at me

[sharp bluff]

nah, skill check in melee with a sword or axe

prevents you from getting ganked by other mobs too

[eternal raven]

i start a new game and been using the axe all the times and it not bad

it gave u the aoe attack

[sharp bluff]

you dont want to use your tools to kill mobs in many cases cuz your durability is somewhat limited

[pulsar mortar]

Snipe them

Gas bomb them

[eternal raven]

i been using 2 axes and lvl them to lvl 4

[pliant hatch]

Mate, I killed Aboms with fire arrows, while switching to put an arrow in the Draugr, blobs and even Wraiths before turning to the Aboms again.
Bow is one of the OP weapons and when you use fire on a creature made of WOOD, you will have a huge advantage.

The other option is to kite him to a surling spawner and let the FIRE of the geyser do the job for you.

Melee is one option, not the option in this game.

[sharp bluff]

either i lure a small part or i mob the entire thing into tar pits and get the popcorn ready

[eternal raven]

the resource isn't the problem cuz im the only one who play

[eternal raven]

ahh the black trap

[sharp bluff]

in which case you arent really using your tool to kill sth xd

[buoyant ether]

yeah idk i might just give up

[eternal raven]

irl u do

[buoyant ether]

i feel like im not makign any progress combat wise

[eternal raven]

don't gave up im still learn the combat too and I do die alot of time to troll and other enemy even after I finish the game

[sharp bluff]

as did i at some point
there is a reason i started meleeing them

[eternal raven]

no one judge u how u play. u play to have fun

[river forge]

Just cheese

Exploit enemy movements and patterns, limitations

[modern moon]

unironically

[river forge]

You won't reliably win 1v1 with most things, even in maxed out armor and weapons for that biome

[modern moon]

you dont really have the tools to deal with lots of situations head on

[eternal raven]

if u have 2 or 3 biome near each other just let them fight

[river forge]

Except maybe against greydwarves

[eternal raven]

abom vs lox kinda a good fight to watch

[river forge]

Lox wins

[sharp bluff]

lox murders almost everything in the swamp xd

[modern moon]

ashwood is a finite resource right?

[river forge]

And the mistlands

[modern moon]

so charred arrows/bolts are as well damn

[sharp bluff]

you do
the problems pop up once its no longer 1 vs 1 but more like 1 vs 5+

[river forge]

I've seen a deathsquito kill a gjall

[eternal raven]

still can't get my head off 2 trolls lost to 3 mosquitos

how tf u lost to that

[river forge]

squito too fast

[sharp bluff]

trolls are super weak to pierce
they get stunlocked

[river forge]

trolls are designed to hit stuff on the ground

[eternal raven]

2 trolls

[sharp bluff]

yeah, grab an atgeir or upgrtaded flint spear and see what you do to a troll xd

[river forge]

if 100 trolls, they still can't hit it

[eternal raven]

it did kill 2 of the mosquito don't know how

[sharp bluff]

mos dies in one hit

[eternal raven]

i been getting mid game loot in early game

kinda nice to get free black metal

[paper marsh]

Fast and glass cannony always better than big slow and tanky 😎

[eternal raven]

that why im a mage chicken

now when i play with axe and sword it feels weird

god damn wish they was an early mage item in early game

[sharp bluff]

ye, thats a bummer

[buoyant ether]

1v1 ones are easy but yeah, maybe i dont have the intuition for this game

like in souls games the dodging comes with just like "okay this makes sense"

in this game, i cant make sense

[eternal raven]

let other mob from other biome help u

[buoyant ether]

how 😫

[paper marsh]

Seems you misdiagnosed mages.

Fast? Yes

Cannons? Yes

Glass? No

[buoyant ether]

they just follow me they dont care about each other

[eternal raven]

run to other biome with the mob behide u

[eternal raven]

how tf i die to that skelete in ashland

that rock really hurt me. When my shield break I tank only 2 hits

[buoyant ether]

it hurts cuz this game has so much good in it, i could love this game 😫

like this game has everything that makes me fuck with a game hard

[sharp bluff]

mages arent traditionally tanky
they merely have insane regen

[eternal raven]

and that was a party too not solo

the dmg from mage is great but the health and armor nuh uhh

ashland mage armor upgrade with ashvin cape only give me 89 armor

[paper marsh]

Trick is to always have your shield up. It can tank any hit (could tank millions of damage, if an enemy did that much), and can be quickly spammed to get back up. Plus, since you're fast (hopefully from use of fenris armor or askvin cloak or something) you will rarely be hit, and can easily maneuver around while getting another shield up

[sharp bluff]

or you do the feather cape trick jump

[eternal raven]

no not that feather cape in ashland

it a dead wish

[eternal raven]

i only wear the ashvin cape that might be the problem

[paper marsh]

why?

[eternal raven]

the ashsvin knock me into lava while wearing it and man im die quicker than my etir regan

well it doesn't matter anymore since im finish the mage game that play with the boi and now we wait for deep north

[pulsar mortar]

You die fast in lava even without it

[eternal raven]

Yeah I guess so

But need armor

[pulsar mortar]

Only bomb-blob, valkyrie and maybe warlock can set us on fire

[eternal raven]

I just let troll deal with them

[river forge]

Also flaming troll maybe

[eternal raven]

Ik I summon him

[river forge]

Oh an the goblin with a torch

I was disspointed in the troll summon

Give me something useful valheim, with some utility, please

[eternal raven]

Hey it good with raid fortress I will say that

[river forge]

Yeah but uncontrollable

[eternal raven]

Yeah last time the troll and Morgen team up to beat me with my friends watching

[pulsar mortar]

Oh and my 1* askvine died before I could tame him in the pit

[river forge]

Troll summon, cool, finally something awesome, thanks valheim

It's an uncontrollable flaming psychopath that will kill anything in sight and god help you if you summon it near anything you built

THANKS VALHEIM, SO USEFUL

[sharp bluff]

the troll summon is extremely nice to soften up targets before you go in

[river forge]

Yeah it has incidental usefulness, not purposeful usefulness

[eternal raven]

Yeah but not with boss fight my friends really mad at me for summoning them

[river forge]

Because it'll attack players that get close to it

[eternal raven]

Yep ik but I forgot ok I have a goldfish Brain

[river forge]

Summon troll, troll chases something, finds a portal you made to the boss, demolishes it, people die and are unable to get back

[pulsar mortar]

It could work, just run as fast as you can

[river forge]

Valheim devs are the real troll

[eternal raven]

Well friends using sword and axe and me as a mage summon troll really not good with it in boss fight

[paper marsh]

Yea lava blob and valkyrie are the only somewhat common enemies that have fire, and they're very easy to dodge

Bonemaw. warlock, and the boss you won't be facing often

[eternal raven]

The MVP of the Ashland boss fight is the staff of the wild that thing help more than that stupid troll

Boss sometime throw some attack on the vien and that really helpful

[lament hearth]

What happens if i don't feed tamed wolf/boar? will they die?

[eternal raven]

They just keep hungry

[river forge]

They won't regen hp

And they won't breed

[lament hearth]

will a wolf be a good companion and fight with you ?

[eternal raven]

No

[minor bane]

so, i got to ask something

[river forge]

Wolves are great in a fight

[eternal raven]

Not with golem or dragon

[river forge]

get 2x2 star wolves and breed loads, take them with you, can't go through portals though

[eternal raven]

Ship them

[minor bane]

is anyone for the idea that a few individuals can literally gatekeep others from playing valheim?

[pliant hatch]

Depends at the biome you're in.

They're marvelous when dealing with monsters from lower biomes; but you will need a lot of them do fight with you against monsters of the biomes above theirs.
Still, doing Yagluth with 40+ (2 star) wolves if fun too.

[minor bane]

because i cant use Valheim Server List website

I got IP banned

because @baldr2054 powertripped, banning me from his discord after i called him out for being a shitty server operator as he literally let his server get corrupted in real-time. I experienced hi server collapsing in real-time. many players told him that his server was undergoing severe issues, one of themods he was running made the server suffer memory leaks

and then he contacted the webmaster at Valheim Server List and got me IP banned

[azure yacht]

Sounds like something unrelated to this server

[azure yacht]

Which valheim server list?

[minor bane]

im gettng to my point

[pliant hatch]

I doubt it's the one listed in https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1024264966712340510

[azure yacht]

And I doubt even more that it's the one in-game

[minor bane]

well, i can link it, but I'm probably gonna get slapped for "promoting outside websites"

[pliant hatch]

Which is also where I think this topic belongs. But that's just me. shrugs

[azure yacht]

Idk, maybe DM modmail about the whole thing

[minor bane]

in one word and the 'dot' with .

[azure yacht]

TIL that website exists

[river forge]

Criticism damaged his ego, is a poor leader

[paper marsh]

Going into Ashlands pre-queen without a good AoE weapon - wish me luck 🫡

[azure yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/el-macho-gru-despicable-me-gif-9139737

[mossy lance]

how tho ? dont you need the boat to get there ? or are you just gonna jump on the rocks

[paper marsh]

Jump on rocks or sail up to coast in longship. Depends how direct a path I'll have

Gonna try to play Ashlands without portals though, which is gonna make it tough to get out of ashlands

[drowsy herald]

now thats a challenge when you die you gotta make a new ship just to get back

or set a spawnpoint

[paper marsh]

Well could set up a spawn point too in Ashlands, but I'm planning on not dying

I'll have to raid a fortress to get a catapult and hopefully I can catapult myself out. Doubt a ship will work since I don't have any momentum as I put it in the water, and I'm instantly gonna take damage

[drowsy herald]

just got news ashlands released so i opened my game after a long time earlier

[eternal raven]

Yo bro don't forget the catapult we talk about

If the lane close catapult in and out is ez

[paper marsh]

About to go scout for the closest landmass, before going into ashlands

[eternal raven]

Wait no map or with map

[paper marsh]

with map

[eternal raven]

Oh thank God I thought with no map too

Man with no map u can't tell the lane close or not

I test a lot with no map and man the rock really make the measuring really hard

So in no map u have to set base and live in that biome until u kill the boss and move to other and live there

[paper marsh]

At least in no map no portal yea

I plan on setting up base and living in Ashlands eventually too though

[eternal raven]

Yes cuz after this hard mode game play I will play hardcore

[paper marsh]

Nice

[eternal raven]

Can't wait for me to rage cause I usually die to the most stupid thing u can ever think of

[paper marsh]

trees have entered chat

[modern moon]

does anyone else feel like ashlands isnt that fun after the initial hype, like its not even that its bad its great in so many ways but it just starts to feel so....painful

[eternal raven]

Cause u die a lot?

[modern moon]

mainly due to the constant attacks

no I dont actually, im playing on very hard doing fine, this isnt a skill issue as people love to say the second someone criticizes

[eternal raven]

Ahh the pain the nightmare still hunt me

[modern moon]

it just feels like im playing at my maximum every second outside of a campfire zone with the constant attacks

[paper marsh]

I don't mind the constant attacks. But I feel like the fortresses/dungeons are pretty boring and not any additional challenge to the rest of the biome, which really kills it for me

The gear choices are great though, and enemy variety

[modern moon]

like you spend 30m and traverse like 100meters

[eternal raven]

Ahhh I see

[modern moon]

and yeah im playing very hard but its the same thing on normal as full melee

[paper marsh]

Yea vhard Ashlands isn't too different to normal imo

As melee it is rough though, you need a lot of AoE damage

[modern moon]

like i love everything about it but the constant attacks, its not even that its bad it just wares you down sooo much and feels kinda anti exploration

[eternal raven]

Oh yeah with melee really hard to fight a horde of enemy

[paper marsh]

But i recommend just running past stuff instead of fighting everything

[modern moon]

the problem with this is at some point my stamina will run out

and ill likely be surrounded by mobs when it does

[eternal raven]

Yeah when u run to get your stuff back there will be more of them

[modern moon]

its a risk weather the path will be clear to recharge along the way you run

and on very hard losing skills is so brutal as you rely on them a lot more so i dont like taking any risk

[eternal raven]

Mining flametal is like hell with horde of them

But if this what dev want I have to deal with it and rage out sometime

[azure yacht]

100m is actually a long distance...

[modern moon]

yeah its actually safer imo to just attack a fortress unless maybe if its one of the deposits right next to safe ground

[snow raptor]

does anyone know how I can make it lag less when in my base

[eternal raven]

Least structure least building material

[modern moon]

unless you want to remove details of your base all you can really do is turn graphics down

[eternal raven]

Or reduce the render

[modern moon]

Did they buff vibeberry farm spawns or something? I saw a lot of people complaining that they were to slow to farm but ive got a pretty big farm of them going now in a reasonable amount of time

[foggy glacier]

I have the same issue. my FPS drops from about 120 to 40-50 at base and I've turned down everything but draw distance.

[eternal raven]

My Friends build some of our structure far from each other and we got back up to 40

Idk if it was that we build a lot of stuff near each other or what

[eternal raven]

I heard someone said vibeberry grow fast in Ashland idk if that a thing or not

[snow raptor]

they cant grow in ashlands

[modern moon]

my farm is in the plains

[eternal raven]

Wait it can't

[snow raptor]

its apperently too hot

[eternal raven]

So the cluster it just a one time pick.
That mf troll me

God damn I got bait again

[modern moon]

they can but you need them in a shield generator

[snow raptor]

they can?

[eternal raven]

Bruh uhh hmm

Wiki time

[modern moon]

its dumb yeah lol, somehow you can naturally find them there but its to hot to grow them without the safety of a shield generator

[eternal raven]

Yep wiki said it too

So that guy still lie to me about it grow faster in Ashland

[modern moon]

damn thats fkd up

[snow raptor]

yes

[pulsar mortar]

Shame we can't plant in Ashlands those weird wines and puffs

[eternal raven]

Oh man what happen if we play no portal and try to farm

We need to prepare and bring everything to the last biome

[azure yacht]

https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/892970/view/4199120329649538868

They don't grow faster. They just do

[pulsar mortar]

Anyone feels that dreams tease a bit too much that abomination- The Thing Bear something?

[azure yacht]

All dreams are RNG

[pulsar mortar]

I know, still it feels weirdly specific

I guess DN is already in planning stages/concept arts

[thin sonnet]

imagine blocking a 2 star warrior on VHard

better cross your fingers mentally that you time the parry correctly ☠️

[eternal raven]

Got 1 Punch by 2 star troll

[paper marsh]

Have you tried Vhard? Because if you did you'd know it's not a question about timing, it's a question about whether or not you have a bubble shield on

Or like 3 hp foods

[thin sonnet]

oh i admit i will not touch VHard with a ten-foot pole ☠️

[eternal raven]

It fine man it fun trust me

[thin sonnet]

and imagine the grind you need to lvl up blood magic

[paper marsh]

On vhard parrying is very hard bc parries fail if the enemy do too much damage (completely cancels the parry, even with right timing). 2 star vhard enemies are basically unparriable, unless you have a kickass shield and 3 top tier health foods, or using bubble shield which allows you to parry anything

[paper marsh]

meh. It's a fun challenge at first but I feel it leads to boring playstyles. I like Hard tho

[eternal raven]

I like it cuz I like rage

The boring part for me is gather resources

[paper marsh]

Same, I don't think I can go back to doing vhard permadeath runs though 😭

[eternal raven]

Took time to get used to it like the guy learn how to ride a bike that steel reverse

[mossy peak]

Evening gents!

[paper marsh]

I do really enjoy a mix of modifiers and self imposed challenges to up difficulty

[paper marsh]

G'evening

[viscid scarab]

Quick question because I have perception (-1) apparently. How the heck do we make the color fireworks? I have the basic firework and a dandelion but nothing comes up in any crafting station.

[mossy peak]

Literally just installed Valheim and apparently there's an official discord. Is this game fun to play singleplayer?

[viscid scarab]

Yes

[paper marsh]

Very. Even better with friends imo, but super fun alone. I do recommend your first playthrough solo or with someone who's never played before though

[mossy peak]

I don't have any friends to play with 😂

I'll make a world real quick and check it all out

Is the seed randomized?

[eternal raven]

Idk we love challenge or we love being a masochist

[eternal raven]

Yes

[paper marsh]

Yup!

[paper marsh]

both

[mossy peak]

Sick! Loading up now

Oh, my valheim just crashed

How long does it usually take for a world to load?

[drowsy magnet]

When loading the world don't do anything

if you do something, it will say "not responding" but it's still loading

1 minute or so

[mossy peak]

Oh, i got lore text

[paper marsh]

Yea first time loading the world it can take a while

[mossy peak]

Big crow

[paper marsh]

Valkyrie

[mossy peak]

Should i build near spawn?

[weak iris]

first time playing valheim. after entering swamp first time and miserably failing I insta logged on my death there. taht was 2 days ago. Today I log in just to have a swamp raid in the very first second I log in. naked, no food, nothing. While I ate food they killed my 2 2star boars that I was taming for 20+ in game days. what in the hell was that

[paper marsh]

Tough

In valheim preparation is key. Make sure to set up at least some base defenses, and especially put your boars somewhere safe. Have a portal to be able to quickly get back to your body and recover it, maybe have some backup gear if you don't feel comfortable running in naked and grabbing your corpse or for defending your base if you lost your gear

[weak iris]

yeah I mean every other raid I would have defended but I was in the swamp for literally 5 mins and next thing that happen is a raid from there is just unfair idk

[paper marsh]

The raids from swamp happen after you kill Elder

[weak iris]

hm

[paper marsh]

Basically killing a boss unlocks raids from the next biome, because the boss from that biome wants to stop you. Then when you kill the boss, the raids from the biome stop

[weak iris]

yeah no way I am going to tame animals for hours again only for them to be shot dead lol

thanks for the clarification tho

[mossy peak]

Is there any raids in the meadow?

[paper marsh]

Yea. Boars and Necks

[buoyant ether]

more tips for me to survive out on the plains ? XD

[wet lodge]

does bow level the same amount, of a full drawn shot, if you draw and shoot instantly

I know that damage dealt is not considered, but draw time?

[crisp portal]

Yeap (not sure if they changed it for ashlands tho). If you just "spam" click and HIT something with hp (that is important) it will lvl up same rate as a fully drawn shot

@wet lodge grab a few wood arrows and try it out with a GD.Shaman (as they can heal themselves)

[eternal raven]

Craft the abom armor so the mosquito deal less dmg, don't go near the tar spawner and tame a lox to helping fighting

Fighting a whole goblin village solo kinda hard so lox really come in handy

[crisp portal]

Plus: and dont wonder at night as well, at first it can be overwhelming

I really thought that the plains had a "wrath" version mob that spawned only at night... They should add, tho.

[eternal raven]

Wait I remember he was in mistland. U got the staff yet?

[eternal raven]

No don't

[crisp portal]

plains are too plain, you know BF has tons of GD's, Swamps have wraths, Mountains a 2⭐ wolf and fenrings...

[eternal raven]

I die to the mosquito many time and no difference at night

[crisp portal]

imagine a 2⭐ deathsquito ...

[eternal raven]

God just take me

[crisp portal]

its the worst mob by far the very first moment you get to the plains that is. It flies, deals tons of damage, cannot be outran, and sometimes comes in duo

[eternal raven]

The backshot it gave me ahhh

[crisp portal]

I just remembered my first arrive at the plains, then I had 3 other boats near it

[snow raptor]

im trying to add some vegetation to my plains castle

what trees do you guys think would fit?

[crisp portal]

If you dont mind, Plant Everything mob is really helpful for it. If vanilla, I think only birch trees and maybe pinecones for the contrast. also, you could use some onions (to grow seeds) to add some vegetation too,

[snow raptor]

ok and yes I play vanilla only

[crisp portal]

I just like the visual of onions seeds to harvest (pinky pinky)

[craggy rain]

looking for people to join my dedicated server im going to purchase, it will be able to support 10 at a time. DM me if interested, it's free I just want chill people to help build up the world.

[wet lodge]

nah, once you have a black metal knife its not :P

the only enemy you gotta have respect for is the shaman

[open mortar]

so i went and fought a bunch of seekers for the first time, they weren't too tough, apart from the 1 star seekers we often found (they would 2 shot me so i had to fight and leave and heal and return)

root armor is actually cracked against pierce

[wet lodge]

god I love when a club-fuling kills me 50m away from me, and then deathsquitos 1 shot me at the portal despite having 160 hp

[paper marsh]

Latency and vhard mode be like that

[wet lodge]

not to forget the deathsquito hitting you mid-roll

[worthy turtle]

how much silver ore should i be leaving with to craft everything i need up until plains

i dont wanna make two trips

[wet lodge]

or the deathsquito who stops halfway in its attack, so you block, and then keeps moving 2 seconds later and wont get parried

[paper marsh]

Ehh silver you don’t need tons of like iron. Get like 20-30 for base stuff and potential future biome stuff, and then for mountain gear it depends what you wanna make. Something like silver sword, frostner, and heavy armor costs a LOT to build and upgrade and you’ll prob end up needing like 300. Going for some cheaper options maybe 100 silver

[wet lodge]

always go fenris armor*

[final bloom]

Does anyone knows why the hens stick to the corners?
#screenshots message

[worthy turtle]

ohhh okay sounds good

[worthy turtle]

ya ive heard ppl use that even in end game, but the armor stat is so low

[wet lodge]

dont need armor if you never get hit

I am speed

[digital wave]

which cape to use as a mage in ashlands:

ashen seems nice for the added defense but the attack stam usage is useless for me

[paper marsh]

Askvin or feather

[untold vale]

i killed so many fortresses but still no frost gem, why, why cant i freeze hell?

(i figured theres none, just crying, ok)

[verbal radish]

no such gem yet

[untold vale]

dont make me tap the second msg

[verbal radish]

knowledge is power

[paper marsh]

Maybe you get the power to do so in Deep North

[untold vale]

but then i wont go to shland again

[verbal radish]

The poison gem can root enemy in place

[paper marsh]

why not?

[untold vale]

i hate it

[paper marsh]

I have conflicting feelings about it

The enemy variety, gear, and general difficulty is great. But the fortresses and dungeons are very disappointing and not any harder than the rest of the biome

[azure yacht]

Who's to say everything in DN will be completely immune to frost? There are only two enemies in ashlands that are immune to fire and one of them is the boss

[paper marsh]

Don't think anyones to say. Why?

[azure yacht]

This implies the thinking that frost will only be useful in biomes earlier than DN, especially ashlands.

But I'm sure it won't be the case if they do add a frost gem

They could've made ember staff completely useless in ashlands but it remains one of the most useful weapons there

[digital wave]

i mean in ashlands most enemies are very resistant to fire, so they might aswell be immune

like the charred skeletons which make up 99% of the enemies

[azure yacht]

Ember staff deals blunt too

[paper marsh]

I think the implication was more that they don't like Ashlands and aren't gonna go back to it once they move on in progression

[digital wave]

yea but then youre also missing out on the stacking DoT

[azure yacht]

A bonus.

You can still demolish everything at range with a type of damage they're not resistant to

[paper marsh]

And it's hard to freeze over hell in DN

Yea ember staff is too good. I'm enjoying ice staff

[azure yacht]

Yes, because a frost gem "would be most useful there" than in DN

[mossy peak]

What gear do yall recommend for the eikthyr fight?

I have a set of leather armor and a level 3 flint axe, along with the odd tool here and there

No idea what I need to be prepared enough to fight though

[paper marsh]

That's pretty good. Ideal would be a flint knife or spear, or a crude bow though

An axe will do fine though

Just make sure to eat 3 different foods (something you should generally always be doing) before the fight. I'd say it's best to eat boars meat, deers meat, and then something like honey or berries

[mossy peak]

And food?

I have roasted tails aswell

or raspberries

[buoyant ether]

IM ONA QUEST TO FIND AN ISLAND

[mossy peak]

I'll see if I can get a leather cape rq and then a crude bow, then I'll get to fighting!

[buoyant ether]

nah plains still, soon mistlands tho

is it in mistlands i can get that staff stuff ?

[paper marsh]

those work good too. You can look at them for stats, but generally I'd say try to eat 2 hp foods and 1 stamina food (hp = red fork, typically meats. Stamina = yellow fork, typically non-meats)

[mossy peak]

Sounds good! Will see what I can do

[paper marsh]

First boss isn't too bad, you got this! Dodge rolls (right click + space) are great

[mossy peak]

Im very anxious. I assume I need deer trophies to summon him?

[buoyant ether]

just bow his ass 😤 💪

[mossy peak]

I picked up the odd flint arrow here and there from abandoned houses, so I will get a crude bow soon!

[buoyant ether]

my seed doesnt mabe have plenty of islands

mabe should check

[mossy peak]

Eikthyr is like right next to my base

Not even a 3 minute walk lol

[buoyant ether]

is porcupine a club/hammer category ?

[fierce granite]

yes

[buoyant ether]

guys idk about this root armor

seems kinda mid

[paper marsh]

decent if you're an archer, and archery is broken af

Some people like the poison resist, I personally think it's dumb when you can just get poison resist potions though

The root chestpiece does carry in swamp and plains though, and somewhat carries in mistlands (carries a lot on higher difficulty)

[minor bane]

i can only presume it did. when he ended up banning me, I did send him a DM. this was the content of the single DM I sent him: "MAD CAUSE BAD SERVER OWNER LMAO! GET SHIT ON KID, GET GUD. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA. YOU'RE SUCH A SHIT SERVER OWNER LMAO HOLY SHIT!"

[buoyant ether]

i use mostly archery yes

[eternal raven]

isn't it weak to fire?

[burnt glen]

Yes

[paper marsh]

yea, but there's few fire mobs. Only one in swamp (and you're wet always, so doesn't matter), one in mountain, 2 in plains, and 1 in mistlands. Then a few more in Ashlands.

They're largely avoidable though. And you can get fire resist to nullify the weakness and still make you resistant

[unique onyx]

is flametal kind of rare or is my old world not spawning ashlands well?

[ornate sigil]

Both are possible. If you explored ashlands before it went live, that may be the issue but it also comes down to RNG.

[unique onyx]

i didn't explore it but i noticed a lot of stuff is spawning out in the ocean and after exploring 5-6 lava pools i haven't seen any metal, so i'm wondering lol

[buoyant ether]

can i even see mini-islands on the map ? seed map

[drowsy herald]

any ores i need to bring to the ashlands so i dont need to go back and forth wtih a boat?

[ornate sigil]

I have yet to get to ashlands after it went live, but when I was there before, I saw a couple pillars (1-3) for every Stronghold I ended up finding.

[wet lodge]

since when can you have swamp invasions before killing bonemass?

[ornate sigil]

A stone cutter, a portal and maybe some for lighting (like brazier or sconce).

[drowsy herald]

aight ye i forgot wood burns in the aslands

[ornate sigil]

Yep, welcome for the reminder.

[ornate sigil]

"A foul smell..." is aparently enabled by killing elder.

Had to check the wiki on that

[wet lodge]

I have 330 hours in this game and thats the first time I ever had this

I always thought bonemass enabled swamp invasions

[ornate sigil]

If you are playing on all default world settings, it's "Every 46 minutes there is a 20% chance for a random event", so the chances of a specific raid are fairly low.

[azure crag]

how to make enemy not spawned inside your base? i hate when greyling come in my base and punch some onion

[wet lodge]

place workbenches everywhere

[ornate sigil]

"Player base items" like campfires and workbenchs suppress random spawns.

[azure crag]

tf, really?

[wet lodge]

my portal area, which is an open stone circle with trees and no walls, has a bunch of workbenches in the ground to prevent spawns

you cant completely cover them in dirt but you can build stone floor over them

wall off an area and then make sure not the tiniest spot is outside of a workbench radius

I once had a small spot, not even 1x1m and a troll spawned there

[azure crag]

bro wtf that rng

[ornate sigil]

Sounds about right.

[wet lodge]

ofc I was afk at that moment and he wrecked my shit

almost lost my 2 star boars...

[azure crag]

btw, should i take armor set on silver age or skip until i got padded?

is iron age armor set can hold Moder attack?

[wet lodge]

ive done moder on troll armor before

or root armor last time

[mossy peak]

The fuck is Moder

[wet lodge]

this time I want fenris armor

[ornate sigil]

(?). That's one of the bosses names.

[mossy peak]

Bro I only just found the deer mf 😭

[azure crag]

so....iron set still ok.....i hope so, since i play solo make the game easier so far...

[warm sandal]

well happy exploring then...there is soooo much to find out... oh i wish i could experience the game for the first time again 😄

[ornate sigil]

Ah. Eikthir (Ike-thear). That's the first of many bosses. Modor is the 4th.

[wet lodge]

oddly enough I dont have this "first time again" urge with this game, I do with minecraft and Deep Rock, but not this

[ornate sigil]

Then you just need a good "forget me stick" 😋

[azure crag]

take it easy. I'm starting new after not playing for 2 years. and it's quiet fun to start with new seed and character. i regret my old days starting with paded because i'm pusy

[warm sandal]

just a little longer to wait for the upload to youtube and then i may go play for fun with the husband 😄 looking forward a lot - have been doing voiceover on a "lost-the-audio" episode for over 2h ... i deserve a break and some play now 😄

[mossy peak]

I'm just getting leather armor and materials to upgrade it right now. No idea where to get bine fragments though

I'm tryna do as much as possible without tutorials rn

[buoyant ether]

#screenshots message is this too small to build on ? 🤔

[azure crag]

have you defeated Eikhtir?

[mossy peak]

Even made a nice little viking home and a pretty well sized harbor for a solo playthrough I'd say

[ornate sigil]

Depends on what you are wanting to do. It looks like a decent size compared to the workbench.

[azure crag]

yup enjoy my friend. if you get stuck you can ask here lol. other viking will help your progress (If you stuck)

[mossy peak]

I'm planning to fight him after I've upgraded everything I have rn. Level 3 in the leather armors, level 3 bow and level 3 spear is all I need. Already have a level 3 flint axe

[buoyant ether]

just a base, idk about a full blown base tho

[mossy peak]

I also want to get a little ship, but I can only make a raft rn and it looks ugly

Im sorry if I react late. We're right at the german border rn after getting dinner so I have no internet

[warm sandal]

it will come with progress... nice little ship, then nicer bigger ship, then nice very big ship 😄

[mossy peak]

I know that theres a raft and a very big viking ship, but I want a small viking ship since I'm a solo player and dont need to transfer too much stuff

Can we add chests and stuff like that to ships btw? Might want a cool little moving base

[warm sandal]

thrust me you will want to transfer LOADS even playing solo 😄

[warm sandal]

nope

[mossy peak]

Awe

[ornate sigil]

Small base and a harbor/dock should be feasible. Or at least I would make it work of I was making it.

[mossy peak]

Well, for now I'll be stuck on the mainland since there's also the dark forest biome I havent explored yet cause I'm scared

[ornate sigil]

Each upgraded ship comes with more storage that the prior. Raft doesn't have any storage and is super slow by comparison.

[paper marsh]

It's a big step up from meadows, that's for sure

[mossy peak]

Where would I even need to go after the meadows

[paper marsh]

Black Forest

[warm sandal]

hugin will tell you once xou killed eiktyr

[mossy peak]

The crow said I should defeat Eikthyr before I head into the dark forest. Does he make it easier?

[paper marsh]

He doesn't exactly make it easier, but defeating bosses do give you a special "power", and something you need to extract resources in the next biome (in this case, Eikthyr gives stuff you need in Black Forest)

[buoyant ether]

i would love it to be a main base but nah

[azure crag]

i hate to spoiler. but, you will need the antler to enter bronze age

[mossy peak]

Oohhhh. That makes sense

I'll be killing him once I think I'm ready then!

[mortal heath]

Hi, how can i survive in winter biome

[warm sandal]

use the frost protection mead

[paper marsh]

Complete swamp first. Make frost resist mead in cauldron using blood bags from leeches

[warm sandal]

if you can not make frost resistance mead, then you should not run around the mountains...wolves are no joke 😄

[mortal heath]

Ty, where can i find a swamp biome

[paper marsh]

Just sail around, they're usually on the coast

[warm sandal]

have you completed the black forest biome and defeated the elder? you will need his drop to progress through the swamp

[mortal heath]

Yes i killed the elder

[warm sandal]

then go sailing a bit... no one knows where swamp is on your map... you need to go exploring 😄 you will know when you find it 😄

[mortal heath]

Ok and i need to take the key with me ?

[warm sandal]

you will need it in that biome, but you do not need to carry it around al lthe time .. i usually leave it at home until i find the places it is needed and get it then (you got only one and loosing it somewhere will entail defeating elder again to get another)

[buoyant ether]

this might be too close to ground 😭 trolls probs can get in

[warm sandal]

geeeez that upload took forever 😄

[odd escarp]

who for material exchanges????

[mossy peak]

Almost done grinding I think

[odd escarp]

what

[buoyant ether]

i shulda made it way higher

😫 now fuling berserker and a lox fucked it

cant even portal back 😭

https://tenor.com/view/aaaa-gif-24974026

[fierce granite]

bro, is the demolisher useful for something?

that hammer is just straight garbage tbh

[rain furnace]

demolisher is the only trashcan in the game. otherwise, gotta drop stuff in water deeper than 2 meters for it to disappear. even dropping stuff in lava is no guarantee to destroy it

[steel copper]

do you mean obliterator?

[rain furnace]

you are right, I am talking obliterator. what is the demolisher?

[fierce granite]

big ahh hammer

[rain furnace]

oh, meh

good for finding silver veins without the wishbone... little else lol

[zealous quarry]

Hey… im kooking for a partner to start a new world. Have played enough to know all about it but never with a mate. Im not into rushing the endgame. Casual play whilst building a nice base. Speak english and german. Pls pm if ur interested

[mossy peak]

Just killed Eikthyr. Was a very fun fight

[foggy glacier]

Yeah, Eikthyr is the first miniboss.

he's not meant to be that tough.

[drowsy magnet]

was it a a staggering challenge?

[foggy glacier]

ooh, nice.

[drowsy magnet]

for first timer they can be tough

[sharp bluff]

can be for very inexperienced players, ye
if you played action combat games (soulsborne in particular) its a trivial fight

[mossy peak]

I tanked a lot an the lightning was a bit odd, but the dodge rolls are very similair to that of DS3

A bit wonkier, but the concept is there, so i got used to it pretty quick

[sharp bluff]

except that their i-frames are even more broken xd

[pearl karma]

hey, anyone familliar with the i-frame sword cancels here?

[dusk comet]

Could anyone explain to me how the a Grausten roof over a 6x4 rectangle is supposed to be build because I have no clue with these weird shapes?

[tight yacht]

Anyone have a good mistlands base they can share

[merry sun]

one of the best weapons in Mistlands, yes.

[supple jasper]

I think I found the solution to the bronze age grind: just get a troll and lure it from one deposito to the next one and don't care about the hidden ore underneath

[merry sun]

Actually, the solution is getting the hidde ore undernesth

[supple jasper]

no, that takes ages

[merry sun]

you def dont know how to mine copper and silver then

[supple jasper]

you mean pop it, right?

yes, it takes ages

[ornate sigil]

Look in the building screenshot section, there are a couple builds with that roof: https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1202310893757530142

[merry sun]

yes, minning normal way is really boring

[merry sun]

eh, maybe i have too much free time

[supple jasper]

it's the digging around and underneath for copper veins

[odd escarp]

TRADE

[supple jasper]

it's less of an issue for silver since you probably have a better pickaxe and the ore is really concentrated

[foggy glacier]

Lord Reto doesn't drop a trophy ATM, right?

[wet lodge]

why cant we take a poison mead before the previos one runs out

just had to watch myself die from 150 hp to 0 because bonemass did the spit thing in the same moment my mead ran out

[frozen fable]

Account for the time between it running out and you drinking the new one by moving away from him

[fair cairn]

also, keep an eye on your meads

[wet lodge]

so you cant parry or block cultists anymore?

[wide zenith]

Does enemies attack shield generator first?

[paper marsh]

You can parry their melee attack for sure. Not so sure about the fire spray

[celest wing]

No he doesn't

[celest wing]

Yeah that happened to me once with yagluth, but that admittedly was because I got sloppy and didn't keep track on the timer

[wet lodge]

I try to find some stuff on lags inside the base, ofc reducing lightsources and not building so much helps. but we dont want to get rid of our 3 structures

is there a good way to improve performance without not-building? Most posts online are from 3 years ago and things changed quite a bit since

[digital lava]

i only use it on morgen the staff i use most until now is the staff of fracturing

[untold vale]

thats actually clever

but packing dundr just incase i meet a morgen isnt

[digital lava]

dundr does yellow damage on him if you parry him and hit all the shots u deal around 1/3 of his health at least

the dundr i literally facehug mobs to make sure all the shots connect 😅

[steady sky]

anyone know if the game is gonna go on sale anytime soon?

[austere belfry]

maybe for the steam summer sale? it goes on sale pretty frequently

[steady sky]

alright

[fossil salmon]

Bonemass hates it when I die. Because he knows I'll be visiting him shortly to put 2000 wood arrows in him.

[languid vessel]

do lox break boats now?

[chilly violet]

lol happens, i remember that happening to me, watching my health drain as i try to run to my portal

[rain furnace]

you are supposed to be able to reliably haul lox on the new big boat for firelands.... or haul any other tame for that matter

I set up an Asksvikar tame facility at my main base, but just carried the eggs through the portal to establish it

things are impossible to control though, they don't sit still at all, and their range is quite expansive

[sharp bluff]

have a bunch decimate the local monster population then

[rain furnace]

I get constant "events" at my main base these days, so it's not just local wildlife that needs culling. outside a massive earthern wall all around my main base though, my perimeter is stacked with tamed lox, 2-star wolves and now 1-star asksvin. they keep my local meadows biome mostly in check lol

[livid widget]

Is black marble immune to the eitr bolts or just a lot more hp?

[sharp bluff]

immune iirc

[snow raptor]

anyone know how you can get good infinite lightning?

[livid widget]

Tesla Tower?

[snow raptor]

in valheim

[languid vessel]

still using longships
we reset the server once ashlands released and just got to the plains biome.

turns out we were going to fast and the ship thought we were hitting a rock

[livid widget]

I am a sexy bish man

Mistwalker is hawt

[celest wing]

I just found a tetra lake on my spawn island

[paper marsh]

*cold

[rain furnace]

what is the reason to haul around lox? I dragged some to my meadowlands main base, after a lot of work, on a longship. mostly. at the end of the day, having the lox nearby my main base changes nothing for me. just as easy to store the lox at the plains biome farm, which I already have to use anyway for barley and flax.

can't really see the need to move any tamed animals at this point, like wolves, boar, lox, asksvin.

riding around the asksvin in ashlands is probably beneficial since you can ride thru lava no problem. kinda sick

[paper marsh]

To have them defend your base or to have a sturdy mount at the ready

[rain furnace]

fair, lox are sturdy. I deployed some outside my meadows base and they defended well enough. they tend to chase stuff about tho and get pretty widely distributed. none of my original lox "guards" are anywhere near my base anymore

and honestly, after you hit mistlands, you'll never ride a lox again

since ashlands, I don't really even eat the lox anymore

I have a 2-star boar farm lol ... talk about worthless.... maybe its useful in first month or two of a fresh start but after that....

[paper marsh]

I sometimes use them to transport large amount of metals across the plains to my base but that’s about it. In general I find tames semi-useless. Lox are the only one I ever made a real farm for and they were still just meh

[rain furnace]

yeah, and you'll find stone portals are plentiful in ashlands once you start attacking forts. so needing to transport metal is a thing of the past

I'm not convinced that spending 30 minutes of my "real" life taming a digital valheim mount is worthwhile. maybe the Ashlands mount, again just because its relatively fast and can walk thru lava

[paper marsh]

Yea I’ve completed the game 3ish times and have made a farm with more than 3 tamed animals once

On my current play through I have two 2 star boars and a 2 star wolf sitting in boxes near my base - untamed, bc I can’t be bothered to tame them and use them for anything

[rain furnace]

lol - been playing on my main base since valheim released. before ashlands, it was surrounded by like 150 2-star wolves. after a couple Swamp events, my wolf population got decimated by the slimes

I still have a bunch of wolves, but not as many. recently spamming a horde of 1-star asksvin into my meadowlands perimeter. they are super tough but wander a lot

[livid widget]

Just saw a chariot in the sky spewing lightning bolts

[digital wave]

what do u mean by that

[digital wave]

i tamed an asksvin once and i used it properly for like 3 minutes, i went like 50 meters from my base and all the enemies kept attacking it so i went home cuz i didnt want it to die, it went to like half health. second time i attempted using the mount there was a goddamn mini arms right outside my gates so my mount got spawncamped and died right outside my gates

id tame a 2* asksvin but i havent even seen one of those

[worthy turtle]

do ancient cave marking serve a purpose in the frost caves

[digital wave]

their purpose is decoration and lore

[worthy turtle]

oh, okay