valheim-chat

[hidden gorge]

build them a basalt bridge to a flametal deposit, then sneak away before they disappear

[ornate sigil]

better yet, give them "all your bombs" (just enough to get to a deposit) and don't tell them they have a timer for the platforms and watch them get stuck on a deposit.

[willow venture]

update: Have parkoured for like 20 minutes on spires, accidentally went wrong way but we are getting close to the mainland

[lyric olive]

Has Iron Gate revealed yet what they're working on now?

[paper marsh]

Think they're still bug fixing Ashlands some

[ornate sigil]

#news message might be the newest (w/o searching outside of discord). Apple will be able to join the 10th world.

[lyric olive]

How do you know that?

[paper marsh]

from Ashlands bug fix patch 8 days ago in test branch

[cinder echo]

anybody else running into insane lag during combat in ashlands? never had this bad of lag before. dropping down to 15 fps or less. my whole group running into it too and we all have decent pcs

[livid widget]

I had some wolves escape and now battling an exponential wolf population explosion

[cinder echo]

making combat near impossible. mobs flying all over the place, one moment theyre 10 feet away the next theyre in front ofyou hitting you

[paper marsh]

A lot of ppl been complaining about Ashlands and non-Ashlands lag since Ashlands update

[lyric olive]

I mean yeah I guess, small changes

Still a good update, ashlands is the best biome so far for me easily

Mistlands was too easy, Plains was too empty. Really since swamp the game has been pretty bad, so I'm glad the Ashlands brings a challenge back

[paper marsh]

Mistlands for me. Ashlands I'm very conflicted about, because some parts are great and some parts are... not great

[livid widget]

Plains doesn't feel empty to me. It's kind of bland though

[paper marsh]

I love a challenge but I hate how decentralized it is in Ashlands

[lyric olive]

Tbh I confuse ashlands and mistlands so often my friend has to correct me each time 😂

[lyric olive]

What does that mean? I like the challenge, I think it's a good balance as well since most enemies are quite slow

My only complaint currently about the Ashlands is it has very little way of direction, but that's true for most biomes

The 24/7 fighting does feel a bit weird for Valheim too. It's meant to be an exploring game

Doing Ashlands alone must be extremely difficult

[livid widget]

Serious question

Do you all like donuts?

[paper marsh]

they're okay, not great

[livid widget]

balsphamery!

[lyric olive]

I hated Plains. It was sooo fucking boring

[ornate sigil]

there is a reason people use the meme of storming the beach at Normandy to describe first landing(s) in ashlands...

[livid widget]

You don't like farming flax?

[shut cobalt]

A 1 star morgen on hard diff, his double slap made me scream.. unmasculine voice..

[lyric olive]

Even the boss was easy for me, you just hit him with a sword and he dies

[livid widget]

I think Plains is the best zone

[lyric olive]

morgon can be 1 star? never knew

[paper marsh]

Decent difficulty everywhere, but no high difficulty anywhere. I prefer something like mistlands where wandering around is relatively easy, but areas of interest like infested mines or dvergr encampments are more difficults

In Ashlands putrid caves are a joke and and fortresses are about the same difficulty as just wandering around imo (don't get me started on fortresses...)

[livid widget]

Who doesn't love baby lox?

[lyric olive]

Only done one fortress so far but I cheesed in by jumping over the top lol don't want spoilers on how you're meant to do it

It seems to be a bug but maybe its not

If you jump the right way it sends you up and over instead of off the spike

But you just have to be careful because sometimes you might get flown into lava

[lyric olive]

Anyway yeah I did try the cave... just lol.

[shut cobalt]

Mhmm let me know when u found one and how u deal with it

[lyric olive]

Will do 😄

[ornate sigil]

bait the 1star onto a loaded catapult aimed at a undestroyed fortress.....

[lyric olive]

Probably with my sword, because I only play Valheim with a sword

[livid widget]

Game really needs nuclear power for powering kilns and furnace

[paper marsh]

I will say though, I really like the gear options in Ashlands. A lot of unique and cool stuff. Even if the power level is a bit disappointing due to mistlands gear being OP

[lyric olive]

Not gotten to that yet

[placid torrent]

yo, so beds burn up in ashlands, do any sort of beds not catch fire?

[willow venture]

I still manage to die way too often while having mistlands gear

[paper marsh]

I died a lot at first for sure, in a new biome it’s rough getting footing. Once you get used to it and learn All it’s quirks it becomes easier tho

[cinder echo]

did you guys know that theres 2 star spawners in ashlands? o.O

[paper marsh]

Yea

I feel So bad destroying them I can’t make myself do it

[ornate sigil]

If I understand the mechanics of firespread and the ashlands, so long as everything flammable is encased in stone (within a house) or metal, it won't combust.

[paper marsh]

There’s only 2 of them per world I believe

[placid torrent]

i see, so put fire outside of house?

[paper marsh]

if its a wood house prob good

[ornate sigil]

If we are talking about firespread outside of ashlands, unless you turn on the setting, nothing has changed.

And if you did, I think the burnable thing needs to be within a 2-2.5m cube of the fires influence. Ie: if you built a 2x2x2 cube around a campfire and tried to build something wood within the cube, it would likely combust eventually.

[pearl plaza]

You hit most things with a sword and they'll die, if we're being fair.

I've yet to encounter a sword-immune enemy in this game.

[ornate sigil]

side eyes every rock

[paper marsh]

Even 2 star falls quick to some ||Thor approved axes||

[livid widget]

Did they tune the bosses down? I remember Moder being harder with annoying knock back

[paper marsh]

You got better 😎

Try her on very hard though, unless you have a very specific setup there's no way of avoiding a oneshot from her ice barrage

[livid widget]

Does the difficulty do anything? Better loot?

[shut cobalt]

Nothing changed on loot as far as i know, from our perspective, we put our world on hard diff, to make us feels like we earn the right to slide the resource rate to 1.5x. How you like to play the game is what matter most, i think.

[azure yacht]

No

[high heron]

is there spawn ids for bloodstone.jade.etc?

i got it nvm

[spark crown]

there 3 of them, and they part of "puzzle"

[tight yacht]

so just to be 100% sure, buried campfires that are extinguished still prevent spawns?

[rain flare]

It’s basically “Game’s not hard enough. Let’s make me cry 😂”

[sand meteor]

more starred enemies

which drop more than non stared enemies so technically yes

[void gyro]

what made you guys play Valheim for the first time?

[rain flare]

Watched video
Saw game on steam
Liked
Play 🤩🥰🥳

[void gyro]

fair point

[vapid hearth]

Okay, about to head off to the Ashlands. I feel very uneasy heading there in my squishy mage garb

[burnt glen]

gl, hf

[snow goblet]

be prepared to spam the protection staff if you value your life

[vapid hearth]

Oh god... I don't wanna lose my nifty new cruise-sized boat

[finite lodge]

can xbox game pass people use mods?

[vapid hearth]

I can't wait for the meteor-sized hailstorm for the Deep North welcoming party if the Ashlands is the second to last level

That will no doubt be fun

Okay, off to the Ashlands right now. Hopefully i didn't forget anything vital

Oh fuck, red snek already

Ship lost 1/4th health already
I'm already terrified

Phew, thank goodness those stalagmites provide enough ground for a workbench to repair my ship with

Holy fuck am I thankful I managed to survive ||an unstable lava rock||
I thought that was ||flammetal ore||

[tight yacht]

seriously how do i stop these goobers from spawning near my base, ive got buried campfires on the perimeter and torches on the walls

[vapid hearth]

Only three minutes of Rested left... and I'm not even in Ashlands proper DX

[cinder echo]

anybody else think its kinda crazy you dont regen stam while casting mage weapons?...

[steep girder]

Lol, exactly same thing happened to me the first time I saw one... Having read no spoilers or anything beforehand, I went in blind and hit it with a pickaxe ||BOOOOM||

[vapid hearth]

Fuck this, I'll get on one of the ||grausten|| stalagmites and make a campfire for a little 8 minute buff
Hopefully that'll help me

[vapid hearth]

YYYEEEEP
Previous knowledge of the Ashlands betrayed me DX

I bet there aren't any surtlings there anymore either

[tiny tiger]

They’ve been replaced with a shitload of charred bones

[vapid hearth]

...oh goddammit, nighttime
AND I fucking forgot to change one of my portal names to Ashlands DX
Oh well, I suppose I can build a portal in this stalagmite to take me to my Hildr base and sleep through the night there

Okay, I think the stalagmites are thinning in number
I must be getting close to the Ashlands

Phew, made it to land

Holy shit I was lulled by a false sense of security when I wasn't immediately bombarded by enemies
Goddamn, these charred are tanky
I wish I was confident enough to try meleeing them with my spear

Aaaand rested buff gone
I'm fucked

Phew, their numbers are thinning
And I still haven't built a workbench for my stone cutter for my shelter

Such intimidatingly majestic music, though...

Phew, Stonecutter built. Now I can get started with building my Ashlands forward operating base, or shelter

Oh god, reinforcements arrived before I could finish building DX

Aaand now it's nighttime, but this time no time or place to build a portal and sleep through the dreaded night

[tight yacht]

then you have chosen death

[vapid hearth]

6 hp left and popped my shield again
I should have built the portal immediately after I cleared out the first welcoming party and then slept the rest of the day off before continuing to build my shelter out of that new stone material

Okay, phew, got on top of a big archway, and now I'm undetected
So far...
Buuuut I gots no wood with me to build a campfire with for a rested buff

Oh well, let's see how I'll manage...

Daytime!
Yes! But still no means to get the Rested buff since I lack wood, and I don't wanna go back down there

[pearl plaza]

The trees drop wood alongside ash wood

[cinder echo]

i built my first base on the broken up towers that are along the beaches

[vapid hearth]

Oh yeah! THanks to those, I was able to get myself some wood I desperately needed for a campfire!
And now with it daytime and with the rested buff (after an arduous struggle of staying out of sight long enough while sitting down to receive the buff I desperately needed), I'm back in action and ready to continue building my shelter!
Feels good parrying the charred and decimating them (one at a time) after seeing how tanky they are

Aaand goddammit, died to two voltures because I forgot to pop my shield

And even after surviving against all odds, I still failed...
This feels so demoralizing
I'm gonna have to craft another staff...
I could have built a portal after at least setting down the walls for my shelter...

Now I wish I could savescum to that point

[outer spindle]

I think you can if you go to managed saves

[vapid hearth]

🤔
But I don't wanna risk breaking something

[pearl plaza]

Are you playing solo?

[vapid hearth]

Yep

I was about to use console commands because while I might be willing to make the trek, I seriously don't want the stuff laying around the area to despawn

[fair cairn]

no workbench or campfire i guess?

[vapid hearth]

Uhhh, the workbench will just have gotten destroyed by now, along with the stonecutter

[pearl plaza]

Game actions cease when you leave the area

[fair cairn]

whle your not inthearea everything is stopped

[vapid hearth]

But for all I know, they could have gotten destroyed before I got killed

[vapid hearth]

...alright, how do I reach managed saves?

Screw it, flymode it is

It's funny
After barely managing to survive the Ashlands' nighttime by the skin of my teeth and regain the rested buff, and clear out a few remaining enemies around my intended base, it's ultimately the sheer carelessness of me forgetting to pop my shield when I try to fight two voltures whose attention I got, it hurts

...huh, so my workbench and my stonecutter were both still there
Oh well, there's still plenty of goodies from the dropped trees further off that I didn't want to despawn

[near sigil]

the moment I picked up my first Molten Core and saw what that could do, I packed up and noped out of Ashlands real quick

stone portals truly the best QoL feature

[vapid hearth]

Oh yeah, I heard about those stone portals!
Truly something you earn!

[near sigil]

they're stupid easy to get

I had a Putrid Hole right where I landed on Ashlands shore

[vapid hearth]

While I may not feel good about using console commands to get back to where I was, I had little choice
At least that's what I tell myself, all because I forgot to pop my shield when I went to mine for some gestalt and got ambushed by two thunderbirbs

...wow, the delayed sword attacks make me feel like I'm fighting Margit the Fell Omen all over again

[plush umbra]

hi

[near sigil]

my friends compare his delays to Nameless King lol

[river forge]

I wouldn't feel bad

The game is horribly, brutally unfair

I've seen people quit playing because of corpseruns

You spend hours gathering and crafting armor etc, and you will die, lose everything and get absolutely rekt repeatedly getting it back

Game turns into running simulator

[vapid hearth]

Oh yes, and one mistake can undo a whole day's worth of progress, if not more (I REFUSE to explore more Mistlands for brain matter)
And that's not even getting into the modes where you permanently lose ALL your items you had with you when you die

[river forge]

One guy quit because he annoyed the dverger in one of their towers, he tried a lot but couldn't get his corpse back, it was at the base of the tower and the dverger destroyed the stairs, they had a healer down there

[fair cairn]

sounds like the case of needing a second set of armor

[river forge]

Even showing your face where the hole for the stairs was got it instantly ventilated by a crossbow

And a third set, and a fourth

All maxed out so you can maybe survive one direct hit, when you have the best foods

[fair cairn]

.... ill be the one and say, skill issue

[idle storm]

if only there was some kind of option to lower the death penalty... like a world modifier or something.
Oh wait.

[river forge]

Prob just end up losing the extra sets

I would say though

[vapid hearth]

Maybe come Deep North, I'll be able to set up base in the Ashlands without resorting to console commands (and hopefully not end up using console commands for the DN either), especially since not even the Mistlands in PTB got me to resort to using console commands. Though in that case, I suppose it helped that there was a nearby black forest I set up base in instead of the scary new biome at the time

[fair cairn]

if only there was some type of world modifier that lets me temporarily lower game difficulty
oh wait

[river forge]

That if you did have duplicates of everything

You would probably not bother getting the corpse

At times the game felt like running simulator

My strategy to get to a corpse us to leapfrog, I eat some food, sprint a decent distance, pick up something, die

Then sprint again but go past the corpse, sprint further, grab a stone or something and die again

I've set up leapfrog, then get to the first corpse, and stuff for corpserun and trigger either power

Infinite run⚡

Keep grabbing corpses on the way to reset corpserun buff

Sprint like a crazy man all the way, corpserun buff makes you near invincible

[vapid hearth]

Oh, thank goodness the shield generator protects me against enemy projectiles
Learned something new for potential subsequent first trips to the Ashlands

[restive silo]

need somebody to talk me into or out of buying a RTX 4090

(from a 6900 XT)

[tepid pike]

sounds like you know what you want lol

[tiny tiger]

5090 releases this year

[restive silo]

so for context, this is a pre-owned 4090 at 2/3rd new price.

[tiny tiger]

Have you checked if the buyer is legit

Past history, images of the card, reason for selling

[restive silo]

yes

[tiny tiger]

Well then I guess it’s upto you my dude

How much of an upgrade is it compared to the card you own currently and how long would you be planning to use it @restive silo

[restive silo]

suppose to be a pretty big upgrade against a 6900 XT, which I've had for 2 years and 9 months (which isn't that long)

and I just got killed by a Gjall...

[vapid hearth]

Oh yeah, those are a huge pain
Personally I'm glad there's no such equivalent in the Ashlands (closest there is is much more manageable cuz at least it doesn't have a ranged means of attack)

[stuck wave]

I'd say valkyries are a pretty close comparison

[vapid hearth]

Ohhh, those must be that giant bony birb I saw flying in the distance! Good thing I didn't try engaging it

I should find dungeons to raid so that I can make progress on my craftables

[merry pebble]

and they have ranged attacks 🙂 but i believe they dont feel as that much of a pain since its easier to dodge in ashlands terrain thatn mistlands terrain 🙂

[vapid hearth]

At least the Ashlands terrain isn't treacherous and craggy, just the barrier separating it from the plebian non-Ashlands biomes

(Speaking of Ashlands, I assumed they would have been the very last biome, since video game logic usually reserves the scary fire level for last. Though Deep North makes sense more thematically since vikings = cold and north and all that)

[idle storm]

yes, but their ranged attack only hits you if you aren't paying attention

[vapid hearth]

Can they swoop down and dive bomb at you? Thats my biggest fear

[idle storm]

no, they always do a pose before attacking so you have plenty of time to get out of range

[vapid hearth]

Also, boy am I sure glad the ||Asks|| don't have a lunge attack like I expected them to have

[outer spindle]

Are you sure? Also, sorry about earlier but the Managed save button is to the left of the Start Button when choosing the character

[vapid hearth]

....oh. I thought you meant like accessing my files in a folder or something.

When I tried fighting one, it certainly did not lunge at me or dashed at me, more like leaning slightly forward to take a bite or something

[outer spindle]

Try running from one and see why everybody dies from them a couple of times in the lava.

[vapid hearth]

Oh yeah, I remember their attacks having VERY strong knockback when my barrier broke against one of these

....maybe I can feed them those spore puffs to try to tame them

Hopefully they'll be good guard dogs against the Ashland mobs

[outer spindle]

Only when you have a safe breeding pair. They can't out pace the constant spawns and their drops are basically the key to biome progression

[buoyant ether]

how can i make the big deer hammer ?

[merry pebble]

do you have core wood already?

[buoyant ether]

i dont think i do

i feel like i would need a stronger wpn than flint on the black forest enemies

OMG I FOUND ELDER

[merry pebble]

then you will have to go for it into black forest and chop some pine trees 🙂

[buoyant ether]

ahhhh 😏

fir trees ?

[merry pebble]

pine trees, taller with no branches at the lower half

[buoyant ether]

I NEED 5 DEER TROPHIES Q____Q

am gonna cry

[merry pebble]

whats hard about getting 5 deer trophies? 😄

[buoyant ether]

are meadows better for hunting deer?

well, they run away easy XD

[paper marsh]

for what?

[buoyant ether]

big bonker

[merry pebble]

kinda, and you have a bow right?

[paper marsh]

I prefer meadows, but tbh meadows and black forest are both good. A bow or spear is generally gonna be the best

[buoyant ether]

i do have a bow yeah

[paper marsh]

Crudebow is very inaccurate so I prefer spears for deer hunting (they're fully accurate, but don't go as far and are a bit harder to aim). Once you get a finewood bow though that has pretty good accuracy

[merry pebble]

then it should be easy enough 🙂 just listen carefully and when you hear deer sneak, they will be pretty close most of a time

[buoyant ether]

is flint axe worth upgrading ?

[ornate sigil]

I have yet to see a 2star deer, but I imagine it would be the size of a caribou...massive pointy Boi.

Flint is worth it if you are pre swamp

[buoyant ether]

am in BF

[paper marsh]

meh. Not a huge benefit as you'll get bronze soon enough, but also its pretty cheap to upgrade so up to you

[buoyant ether]

hmmmge

[paper marsh]

A pro tip though: Once you get the Black Forest (Bronze), you really don't need to make another axe until like 3 biomes later

[ornate sigil]

Post swamp, you want bronze. You can fix flint on the workbench but need the forge to fix bronze.

You will almost always have a workbench, you might not always have a forge.

[buoyant ether]

idk if i dare challenge elder with just a flint axe

[buoyant ether]

based

[paper marsh]

You should make a bronze weapon of some kind. I recommend axe, because it lets you cut new trees and doubles as a weapon

[buoyant ether]

i do like axes

[paper marsh]

Many people like Mace too, because it is strong when you go into swamp

[merry pebble]

i would go for bronze stuff, you dont need pickaxe or armor if you have troll armor but other stuff will be more than usefull 🙂

[paper marsh]

Any weapon works well against Elder though. A lot of people use fire arrows on him

[buoyant ether]

but elder is ebfore bronze no ?

[merry pebble]

nope, after you defeat Eikthyr you can get bronze

[paper marsh]

No, you kill first boss (eikthyr) and make a pickaxe with their antler. Then you can mine copper and tin in the black forest to make bronze out of

[buoyant ether]

WAIT I DONT HAVE A PICKAXE RECIPE

[ornate sigil]

Same biome for bronze(copper+tin) as the elder. They are both in the black forest.

[paper marsh]

Also need to go in the dungeons in black forest to get the buildings to smelt bronze

[buoyant ether]

WATAFAK

[paper marsh]

Do you have a eikthyr antler? And are you looking in the workbench (can't craft on the go, need to be by a workbench)?

[ornate sigil]

First pickaxe is the antler pickaxe from the "hard antlers" from the first boss.

[paper marsh]

Basically everytime you kill a boss, that boss will give you something you need to get resources in the next biome. For example killing meadows boss gives you pickaxe for getting black forest materials

[buoyant ether]

okay deers are triggering af XDDD

[buoyant ether]

i used it for powa

on the thingie

[merry pebble]

you used the trophy for power, you should still have 3 antlers

[paper marsh]

When you kill Eikthyr they drop their head (for power) and also 3 antlers (seperate item)

If you don't have them you might have left them after killing eik. Kill him again!

[buoyant ether]

can i rekill ? and how ?

[jolly grotto]

The same way you killed him the first time

[buoyant ether]

if i remembered that i probs wouldnt ask xd

[jolly grotto]

Collect the trophies required to summon him, and use them on the altar

[paper marsh]

go to eikthyr altar with 2 deer heads (yup, more deer heads!)

[jolly grotto]

Yep, you get to go back to trophy hunting

[buoyant ether]

goddamn

found an antler 😼

[violet dust]

A quick question. Did any one of you experienced raw material like copper, stone, wood etc despawning?

[warm sandal]

it does despawn if not in the vicinity of player structure 😄

so if you leave it out in the woods on the ground it will go away

[violet dust]

since when? did it come with the new update?

[warm sandal]

since always.... i played for nearly 2000h and it was always that way

leave it out far away from any workbench or things it will despawn after 2 days or something

[violet dust]

No my friend I am just on 3k hours, I could always go back to old mines to get stone etc. Now there is nothing

[violet dust]

I am talking about two hours here. I have it on a vod.. Got a golem to interact with lox's. Golem died dropped glass. I didnt want to take the glass as to many lox in the area. I went back about two hours later and no glass..

[warm sandal]

if you had a workbench there it would stay

Okay that never happend to me

[violet dust]

thats the thing there is workbenches, for the golem situation no bench.

However, I mined silver right.. I thought I took everything.. So in search of freaking stone I went back to the silver mine area.. no stone but hey, I found four silver.. its just not making sense.

Its seems like some stuff just poof in thin air and others stay.. I will send an official report with the vods and timelines to the devs. Thank for the interaction.

[warm sandal]

in that case it really is best to send in a report ... because i never had that behaviour... normal despawning after 2 days in the open sure, but never after 2h

[violet dust]

I know over time like you say.. but again thank you for the clarity. I dont want to send in stuff then its a time waster for both devs and myself.. I appreciate you

[hidden gorge]

2h = 4 days ingame btw -- plenty of time for things to despawn

[violet dust]

So what you saying with your cryptic message I am wasting my time?

[merry pebble]

https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Player_base items despawn after 1 irl hour if they are not in radius of player base structures and even if they are they will still despawn under 2 meters of water 🙂

[warm sandal]

oh yeah you are right 😄 i was talking about 2 ingame days and 2h ingame ... like between morning and noon or something... i should have clarified

[violet dust]

Thank you I see the wiki was revised the 15th of February 2024. Now I know now I am happy.

[merry pebble]

but it was this way for loooooooooong time, i would not be afraid to say since start of EA 😅

[warm sandal]

It was always this way all the way back i can remember...you don't pick it up the next day (in Game) at latest it is gone...

[merry pebble]

you have to look at what was edited on the site if you want to draw this coclusion and even then it might not be entirely accurate

[hidden gorge]

when out doing some serious mining, it's not a bad idea to have a little mining outpost: roof, fire, handful of chests, possibly even a bed if you're feeling bougie or scared of the dark

[violet dust]

Oh my word... I will go and read the entire Wiki rather than come here and ask. Thanks for the advice.

[violet dust]

I have that at all the mines, I never break any of those down as wood is plentiful

[hidden gorge]

rocks don't despawn in chests -- were you using any of it?

[violet dust]

I dont use a lot of chests for wood or stone, I stack it

[vocal rivet]

Been in the Wiki since 21st November 2021.

[azure yacht]

People are trying to help you figuring out something, could you please stop with the passive aggressiveness?

[merry pebble]

but.. we told you it was this way as long as we can remember, i started playing early march of 2021 for example, and you did not accept that ( #valheim-chat message ), and when you got link to wiki you took the latest date it was edited which didnt have anything to with the despawning mechanic...

[azure yacht]

I really can't comprehend the train of thought that involves being rude to others that are actively trying to help you...

[vocal rivet]

Who was being rude to who now?

[azure yacht]

#valheim-chat message

#valheim-chat message

Do these look like the comments of someone being grateful for receiving help?

[vocal rivet]

They said thanks?

[violet dust]

I wasnt rude nor passive agressive. I will walk away from this now. Iwas proven wrong over and over.. My apoligies if I came over as rude and or passive agrsive. It was not the intend.

Words in writting come without a true emotion, people will perceive it as they will.. English aint my first language.

[azure yacht]

Thank you. I know it's very hard to note the actual intention from text alone. It seemed like passive aggressiveness due to saying "thanks" and then making a remark about something like "reading the entire wiki"

[violet dust]

the thanks is and was sincere becaus I actualy forgot to consult the wiki.. This is the honest truth.

[azure yacht]

I see now, sorry for the accusations

[violet dust]

Hind side🤪 we at least had chat going🤣

[empty abyss]

Is there a simpler way to install mods

[merry pebble]

someone in #mods-discussion will probably know 🙂

[violet dust]

Try Thunderstore

[hidden gorge]

"reading the wiki" can easily have a different interpretation than "reading the entire wiki" -- reading the entire wiki is a hyperbolic and unrealistic thing, but browsing around the wiki for a while is normal -- probably just an unfortunate choice of words

also "rather than come here and ask" -- could be interpreted as an implication for disdain of the answers of people here trying to help. you can't get your answers here, so you have to go somewhere else, because people here aren't helpful.

perhaps a better choice of words would be check the wiki before coming here and asking? as opposed to "rather" or "instead of" so you could convey you aren't dismissive of other people's advice, but still happy to gather info elsewhere.

[empty abyss]

Ok sure

[violet dust]

Just to clarify. I am a Senior planner of heavy maintenace machinery in real life. Its my job to read stuff. Thats why when I said I will read the entire wiki I meant it. I realized I had not consulted the wiki for over a year and a bit. Speed reading is not a problem for me.

[vocal rivet]

It's done, why are we still labouring the point?

[hidden gorge]

yeah, nothing wrong with RTFM, just that the first part accentuates the latter part, which I believe was the source of the perceived "passive aggressiveness"

[violet dust]

I am answering every one. Trying to explain my point.

[hidden gorge]

autism

[violet dust]

wow.. All right I will leave the discord.

[buoyant ether]

why uhm i cant pave the ground if its too high up?

[hidden gorge]

what? that was directed at myself, lol. it's not my intention at all for anyone to leave

[vocal rivet]

Whelp, that happened.

[tacit crown]

🤓

[buoyant ether]

is there a way to remove bushes ?

[merry pebble]

axe?

or any weapon actually, but axe works best

[quiet rain]

been forever since i played, but coulda swore f12 was for screenshots but its not working for me and its not in keybinds

[buoyant ether]

my build is hella chaotic but i keep wanting to build but but but q__q

so where can i find the stuff to smelt stuff

[paper marsh]

Go in dungeons in Black Forest. Fight through skellies. Grab loot. Build smelting stuff

[grave oasis]

If you don’t like to have a discussion with a person then continue scrolling. If you don’t want to see the discussion then keep scrolling. Just move on yourself. No need to insult, belittle, or knock people down. Unless of course bashing people with words is your candy pleasure.

[vocal rivet]

I didn't do any of those things, I was actually defending them. But thanks for getting involved.

[buoyant ether]

thanke

[grave oasis]

How about you quiet yourself and move on yourself. Is this not “Valheim Chat” in a Valheim discord?? And since when did Wiki replace open community discussion? If you do not want to discuss Valheim then keep scrolling. Again, there is no need to belittle people to build your ego.

[merry pebble]

i dont know why are you opening conversation that was so nicely wraped up...

[grave oasis]

Think you better read through your own comments to a person that was needing to talk with other people having the same issue. If you see nothing wrong with your comments then you are the problem, not them.

[vocal rivet]

You REALLY have missread this conversation.

[grave oasis]

I am experiencing the same thing as well. With copper and core wood in the Black Forest. I have played Valheim since before Hearth and Home- have never had materials despawn before now.
The copper and wood was harvested, I went back to base to empty my inventory, a raid came. I made food then a teammate needed assistance getting their body back. The time gone was less than an hour, I had slept after depositing my inventory but it was just getting dark when I went back. Went back about half the wood was gone and all of the copper and rocks was gone.

[merry pebble]

As per the resolution of the convo you are replying to... Items despawn when left on the ground outside player base structure radius or even inside it but they have to be more than 2 meters under water in that case, and thats been the case for a very long time, most likely since early access release or even before (I remember it being that way all the way back when i started playing in early march 2021). And that conversation already ended, i dont see any reason for you to engage in it...

[merry sun]

now ik which circumstances items can despawn

time to gather those abandoned dropped scraps

[merry pebble]

if they are still there 😛

[mellow reef]

hey, I hosted a server for a friend just through the regular game, not a dedi. Wanted to send him the world save but it's not in appdata/locallow/irongate/worlds/ , in fact nothing recent is in there except my characters. Are the saves in steam cloud now...?

[dreamy fable]

so the god's late people steam there bitcoins in here? lol

[merry pebble]

what?

[dreamy fable]

look at the live steam going on now

[paper marsh]

Who are gods late people and why are they steaming bitcoins

Only thing I steam is broccoli

[dreamy fable]

this is steaming Valheim only yes?

[mellow reef]

🚂

[merry pebble]

yes, you can go dm modmail if you want to report it

[vocal rivet]

Incidentally, no-one is streaming anything right now.

[merry pebble]

screenshots are taken if needed 🙂

[dreamy fable]

I make video's of everything Derek

screenshots

[deep sun]

https://tenor.com/view/valheim-thumbs-up-nice-nordic-gif-26158244

https://tenor.com/view/discord-discord-perms-discord-gif-discord-permissions-no-perms-gif-19575106

[grave oasis]

Hmm.., well the title of this channel is "valheim-chat" I was hoping to discuss this with people experiencing the same thing. Having over 2300 hours in the game and never experienced items quick despawning. and yes I had workbench in the area as it was behind my "tader cabin" So are players not allowed to come to the valheim channel to talk with Valheim players to ask questions or talk about changes happening in the game? And if you ae finished with the converstion then scroll on by.

[vocal rivet]

Two in-game days is hardly quick despawning. They'll also despawn in water at a certain depth.

[grave oasis]

WIthin the food, stamina, health system combined with the rested buff- does anyone else feel like the rested is not ticking as quickly as before the update? I have tested it with zero armor, scrap armor, troll armor and the recovery seems to come back up slower than before the Ashlands update. And my character "feels" very heavy in the game.

[vocal rivet]

Which update in particular? None of those things have really been tweaked since Hearth and Home.

[merry pebble]

well seeing that despawning mechanics didnt change in a very long, and yes, this is valheim-chat channel and there is no problem discussing game mechanics, however, backseat moderating is not allowed which is how you entered the conversation #valheim-chat message #valheim-chat message

[grave oasis]

Ok- so far i seem to have read input from two other players experiencing the same thing. Unless I missed some. You have no experience with this yourself (items despawning within a workbench area) so your input is not needed further. Since when is standing up for someone that is being treated poorly not allowed? The people of the world all want a person that is willing to stand up for other people when needed, until that person that stands up for everybody actually shows up.
You can pin a title to it all you want but at the end of the day the woman was treated poorly for asking questions and seeking informed discussion, by a community of gamers for a game we all love. And the wiki is not a conversation with other players actively in the game. The wiki is a guide not a live person.

[vocal rivet]

Hang on, where do you get off calling other people rude than coming out with stuff like this?

[dreamy fable]

@grave oasis you vanilla Valheim or Moded Valheim

[merry pebble]

Ok so it seems not writing here about everything i do in game means i have no experience... Noted 🤣

[dreamy fable]

next stage of the wiki well be A.I

it well help you with all your Valheim needs 😄

[grave oasis]

Vanilla Valheim settings.

[dreamy fable]

I use mods my feather fall cape has fire reset on it from the epic loot enchantment table so i can use it in the ash lands 😄

[grave oasis]

Yes, maybe all the items need to be interacted with by gathering and then dropped again in order to keep them from despawning.

[dreamy fable]

fire resist

thunder store or r2modman is beast mod launcher for Valheim

[grave oasis]

That was not my meaning. My meaning was that you have not experienced your items despawning within your workbench areas- or perhaps I missed you stating that you have had the same thing happen to you in game with items on the ground despawning within your workbench area.

[vocal rivet]

Because that doesn't happen in the game. If an item is within range of a player base item it won't despawn. Ever.

[dreamy fable]

if you lost something in the game and don't want to grind to get it back there is always Dev commands but that can get messy

[azure yacht]

Spawn command is probably the simplest command and the only way it can mess something is if you mistype a 0 to whatever amount you planned to get

[vocal rivet]

Or spawn one of the few items that can't actually be deleted again afterwards.

[grave oasis]

That is what I experienced. All of the items despawned; all of the copper, all of the stones, and about half of the corewood. Poofed and gone.

[woeful yacht]

Did someone say 1,000 pinecones?

[paper marsh]

@bleak flax #screenshots message

It is the primary use of the atgeir, but I just don’t like it because it feels too powerful to me. Against pretty much any melee enemy you can just keep spamming the spin and they’ll never be able to reach you due to the knock back and stagger, and by walking in the opposite direction after spinning you’ll regen enough stamina to spin again before the mobs come close

[vapid hearth]

I thought that only applied to workbenches and other crafting stations

[vocal rivet]

What does?

[vapid hearth]

The despawn blocking thing

[vocal rivet]

No, that's true for any player base item.

[vapid hearth]

Oh, excellent

[vocal rivet]

People use workbenches because you get a visual representation of the range of the effect.

[bleak flax]

@paper marsh Yeah "against pretty much any melee enemy". Have you tried hitting a bat, or a vulture? Lol I use the atgeir even in end game and my build is based on it but God forbid I have to deal with vultures. I carry a sword for things like that

[vapid hearth]

Ah

[smoky quarry]

range gets bigger with upgrades

[paper marsh]

Yeah not 100% of enemies but most of them. And the ones that you can't are typically harmless ones like bats or vultures or very rare ones, like bosses

[austere flame]

does eikthyr power also count if you swim fast

[lavish lion]

is it possible to get a level 5 galdr table?

[vocal rivet]

Not yet, no.

[lavish lion]

alr thx

[rain flare]

Vultures?
Harmless???
What world be y’all living in??? 🤣🤣🤣

[wet lodge]

ive seen people stagger fulings in 1 hit with the blackmetal knife, how does that add up?

[vocal rivet]

Vultures are. Voltures, on the other hand...

[wet lodge]

fuling stagger limit is 30%, they have 175 hp, so it takes about 52 damage to stagger a fuling

the blackmetal knife does only 35 damage though

[tepid prawn]

Sneak attack

[wet lodge]

you cant sneak attack an entire fuling village

[vocal rivet]

6x backstab bonus.

[wet lodge]

with backstab you just kill the fuling

[rain flare]

They do get a decent debuff since they are kinda slumped into the pierce damage category.
Which also nerfs it since so many mobs can get dropped into the “I’m resistant to pierce damage”

[paper marsh]

No

[paper marsh]

In my experience those mobs are usually still able to be staggered though, and later on you also get to add elemental stagger damage

[pearl plaza]

High knives skill

[paper marsh]

Like himmin afl is mistlands tier and does fine in Ashlands. Bronze atgeir is BF tier and does fine in mountains

[rain flare]

Which is why this game has such lovely counter balance 🥰

[paper marsh]

To a viking with magical weapons lil birds aren't too much of a threat

[wet lodge]

arent the yellow numbers for your current knife damage? to me it looks like you only reach the full 35 damage when at 100 knives

[paper marsh]

Correct

[wet lodge]

so far nobody has provided anything that explains to me how one would stagger fulings with a blackmetal knife in 1 hit >->

[rain flare]

That’s what I’d say too except you’re usually dealing with several charred, a morgen, and several asksvins simultaneously

[paper marsh]

it does 70. 35 pierce 35 slash

at lvl 2

[void gyro]

why its so hard a solo playthrough?

[idle moon]

also Valkyrie

[pearl plaza]

You can always just test this yourself. I've done much more than 35 with lower tier knives, so whatever

[wet lodge]

so damage types add up, thats a weird system

[paper marsh]

biggest lie there ever was

[pearl plaza]

?

[rain flare]

Less inventory space, you have to juggle multiple mobs yourself, EVERYTHING IS TARGETING YOU, etc

[wet lodge]

ah yes show me how you walk into the center of the village and just stab the fulings in the face, and its all backstabs

[void gyro]

makes sense

[paper marsh]

I could see it being confusing, as in thinking the knife does 35 slash on one type of hit, 35 pierce on another type of hit. But yea knives just apply both slash and pierce on every hit

[paper marsh]

Pretty difficult with a knife but it is possible. Requires pretty high sneak and prob best with a smaller village and good patience, at night time where there's less light

With huntsman bow it shouldn't be too bad

[wet lodge]

the clip did it at day, and with a knife not a bow

[pearl plaza]

Even if they did it on separate hits, it would still stagger in one because the damage would be applied simultaneously and apply to the stagger bar

[wet lodge]

and no sneaking, just walking/sprinting

[pearl plaza]

You know this game has devcommands and you could just test this yourself? But I've definitely run blackmetal knife in the plains and staggered fulings in one hit before

[paper marsh]

I dunno about any clip, just addressing the statement that you "can't sneak attack a whole fuling village"

If someone sneak attacked an entire fuling village in the middle of the day while sprinting around I'd be impressed, although I suppose it's possible. I've managed to get a penta sneak kill on boars with only sprinting between them in the middle of the day, hitting them before they can turn around

I mean mace and sledge are the same skill category. But I imagine it would be a 1 handed weapon

[pearl plaza]

In fact, I just went and did that and yup: high knife skill, averaging about 65-70 damage a hit - staggering in one

[azure yacht]

Better: The only sledgehammer that has a combo attack

[silk arrow]

Alright, is it just me, or is there no flametal at all in the lava fields? I can't find any at all. Only flametal ore I've found is in the ||dvergr bases and the fortresses||.

[pearl plaza]

You know what the pillars look like, right?

[rain flare]

Seriously, you have no idea how much you have been missing until you suddenly realise you can have one player as a distraction while everybody else is tag teaming the enemy mobs

[silk arrow]

Kind of.

[void gyro]

i wish my friends liked valheim

[pearl plaza]

You might just be walking past them without realizing it - they can blend into the landscape if you're not looking for them. They look like a jagged, conical spire

[silk arrow]

Are they always in the middle of the lava? Or just anywhere?

[pearl plaza]

No they are often at the edge

[rain flare]

Anywhere - some are actually almost on land

[silk arrow]

hmm. do they show a tooltip if close?

[pearl plaza]

If you hover over the ore, yes

Once you see them and realize what it is, it'll be obvious from a distance though

[silk arrow]

Alrighty I'll look again.

[elfin nova]

hy, whats the code to write in a new line on signs ?

or is it possible to make a 2 line text float with a single sign ?

[silk arrow]

Ok found one. First one ever, and it makes sense what they look like now. Kinda shiny.

[buoyant ether]

how do i summon the elder ?

[pearl plaza]

Ancient seeds

[balmy chasm]

Does the Chain Lightning effect of Iolite weapons have different attack power depending on the weapon?

Or does it have the same attack power for all weapons?

[buoyant ether]

so the kiln is just for heating up ? heating base surroundings ?

[smoky quarry]

not sure if the lightning dmg is used for stagger

[buoyant ether]

or whats the idea

[smoky quarry]

it makes coal

[versed coral]

You can get the from crates aswell inside the dvergen villages

[open mortar]

im having trouble getting tar, there are so many ooze they just jump me

[azure yacht]

75 for all

[balmy chasm]

quite high

[paper marsh]

Only two spawn by a pit (unless there's multiple close togeher) every 5 minutes. If you kill the two, you can put down a campfire or workbench and it will prevent any more from spawning

[fossil delta]

How long ago did it become just 2? I used to run into as many as 6 at one tar pit.

I haven't really counted this run through, because I just aggro near by lox or fulings to do the work for me.

[paper marsh]

Think it's always been like that. I've definitely come up on double or triple pits that had 4-6 growths though

[fossil delta]

It never occurred to me that I was getting multiples at one time, since there is always only one "pit" the tar is in. That I have to drain.

[versed coral]

To bad u can't lit to fire and burn all the growths the whole pit of tar and loot afterwards

🤣🤘

[open mortar]

no way thats amazing advice

so workbench will prevent spawning? even if its right next to the pit?

[fossil delta]

Camp fires too.

[open mortar]

does it block spawning from the entire workbench area?

[fossil delta]

I believe they are all the same base radius, but you can verify on the wiki.

[paper marsh]

Yup. Many items stop spawning around them. Workbench is nice because it shows the area it blocks (the white circle you can build in), but campfires work just the same in the same radius, and are arguably cheaper (campfires also don't draw mob agro)

[bleak flax]

I don't consider vulture harmless

[fossil delta]

Only the forge and workbench increase with upgrades.

[cinder echo]

does leveling up the trollstav make the troll do more damage? the tool tip isnt very helpful in explaining what it does other than increasing durability of it

[paper marsh]

eh to each their own. Don't think I've been hit by one yet, they're just easier deathsquitoes I'd say

Voltures or Valkyries?

[hidden gorge]

what equipment do you have?

[paper marsh]

Some people have tested it, seems there's no benefit other than more durability

[open mortar]

blackmetal + padded

[cinder echo]

super sadge

kind of a weird oversight..

[hidden gorge]

frostner might be a better choice than any blackmetal weapon vs growths, but also try to only aggro them one at a time, use trees/rocks to your advantage, etc. run away if you are overwhelmed, you can always come back later

[paper marsh]

yea, I'd heavily expect it to be 1 troll at lvl 1, 2 at lvl 2, etc. like dead raiser

[bleak flax]

Vultures, usually 3 at a time and move up and down too much to get good hits in with seconard attack and are hard to hit dead on with primary imo

they arent a big deal alone but when are vultures ever alone ya know

[cinder echo]

play mage. ez fix

[paper marsh]

oh yea with an atgeir they'd prob be annoying. Haven't used an atgeir for a few months

But there's plenty of other tools to take care of them easily imo

[azure yacht]

A dangerous one even, imagine upgrading it for literally nothing...

A bloodstone completely wasted

[cinder echo]

ive already upgraded mine to level 3...... KEKW

[bleak flax]

right, that is my point,t he atgeir isnt cheese because its balanced by not being good at other common things

[cinder echo]

im thinking what soft said should be right tho im about to go test

[azure yacht]

And durability for a summon weapon is very meaningless, how often you use them? It could be like 20-50 and you'd still struggle to break it

[azure yacht]

I hope.

But if not, I'd start preparing devcommands to recover the materials wasted.

[paper marsh]

fair point, although I'd disagree. Having a weapon that trivializes most enemies just feels too good to me, especially because you're not locked to only using that weapon. If you face an enemy it's not effective against you can just switch to another weapon for a bit

[buoyant ether]

how do i make copper axes etc

workbench ? i have copper melted now but no recipes unlocked

[hidden gorge]

no. forge

[pliant hatch]

Get tin, mix it with the copper and drool over all the recipes you unlock

Other as the copper knife, everything else is made of bronze.

[paper marsh]

smelt copper and tin (tin is found in small shiny rocks by black forest beach). Make a forge (with hammer) out of copper. Combine copper and tin in forge to make bronze. Bronze makes weapons and gear in the forge

[bleak flax]

Isnt the fact that you can switch to another weapon universally true for every weapon? Im not getting the point

[pliant hatch]

What we have in this game is basically how the humans improved their standard of life as well.
Stone age, Copper Age, Bronze Age, Iron Age, Steel Age, Industrial Age and so on.

[paper marsh]

Yes, but for example I don't think axes trivialize many enemies. They're a decent weapon you can use to kill stuff, but you do have to exercise some skill. Of course there's enemies that an axe might not be the best against, like bonemass, where you could switch to a mace. But Axe doesn't make many enemies harmless to begin with, like atgeir does

I'm not saying atgeir is the most OP thing in the world though, staff of embers and bows are even more OP in general

[vapid hearth]

Well goddammit, I inadvertently stood on lava for too long

[paper marsh]

Too long = for a fraction of a second?

[vapid hearth]

Yep, that
I was too distracted by trying to figure out what to throw away to make room for this bronze bar and this silver bar I found

[bleak flax]

Yeah, i think the benefit with axes is the fact that they are faster and take less stamina to use. I don't know if there is anyone that prefers them as a playstyle that would chime in on why they'd pick them over polearms

[cinder echo]

i really wish stamina would regen while youre casting. idk doesnt make sense to me that it doesnt regen

[paper marsh]

I mean in general I wouldn't say any melee weapon is better in polearms. I do use axes a fair bit though, because they're often cheaper to make (have to make axe to cut stuff anyways, so you're saving materials from having to build a weapon) and only take 1 slot in your inventory as compared to having an axe and an actual weapon. Plus they only fall a bit behind swords

[vapid hearth]

One star ask... and asks are way too aggressive and attentive for me to sneak up on them and feed them whatever it is they need to tame them

[tiny tiger]

Pro tip: you can parry surtling fireballs

[woeful yacht]

I also like saving an inventory slot by using an axe

[tiny tiger]

I only found this out because they invaded my home and I decided to try it lol

This entire time I was expecting to be set on fire regardless so I didn’t bother

[buoyant ether]

very based

[wet lodge]

whats your strat for farming stone when still pre-mountains? I dont like going to the plains in lvl 3 troll armor and with a bronze shield/razor

[tiny tiger]

My Strat was farming all the Little Rock’s in my meadows base with iron pick axe and then using the cleared up land for farming

[wet lodge]

thats nowhere near enough stone

[vapid hearth]

Phew, thank goodness I got about 48 fiddlehead ferns on my person and have this high ledge to hide from the asks

[tiny tiger]

also it’s worthwhile gathering as much copper as possible from your surrounding black forests

[hidden gorge]

copper nodes have more stone than copper

[tiny tiger]

Copper is still useful endgame

[slender rover]

There are many large rocks in the Black Forest

[vapid hearth]

Those tiny silver veins have to yield as much ore as those gigantic copper nodes, if not more

[wet lodge]

absolute pain to collect, but ig its the only option

[tiny tiger]

One thing I’ve realised is as you progress through the biomes you don’t really want to stop going to the previous biomes

The only other option is greydwarf nest farming which is even slower or plains pillars…

[wet lodge]

copper is only needed for cosmetic stuff

[vapid hearth]

Especially with some mistlands foods requiring carrots, turnips, and onions

[hidden gorge]

very much incorrect

[tiny tiger]

Cosmetic stuff is needed for rested buff

[wet lodge]

unless they added new things that need copper in ashlands, very much correct

[tiny tiger]

Either way copper nodes are your best bet and anyway you are gathering them for stone the copper is just a bonus?

[vapid hearth]

Aww man, the asks left the area
I suppose it's an opportunity to build a pit for these two to be tamed

[idle moon]

Krom uses bronze

Black Forger cooler uses copper

[wet lodge]

5 copper is not something you need to farm for

[paper marsh]

I don't farm stone pre-mountains, but I still end up with a good chunk of it from copper mining (and I try to mine as little copper as possible)

[wet lodge]

well part of the issue is that a guy on the server decided to build a huge-ass tower which is eating all our stone, but I need some to make the stone circles for our portal hub entrance/the actual hub...

[tiny tiger]

Did they change yagluths fingers to no longer be breakable?

[paper marsh]

Think they might have

[tiny tiger]

Mannnnn

The entire reason I based near him was to use them for my base

[paper marsh]

Wouldn't they be even better for a base if they can't be destroyed?

[tiny tiger]

You mean like making the base literally on the altar?

I guess that would be cool but it means I wouldn’t be able to fight him there no more and I’ve not killed him yet I’m still in mountains gear

[near sigil]

last i fought him, his meteors definitely nuked his fingers

which was like last week

[tiny tiger]

Same but I’ve just mined around and under them and then tried breaking them

Maybe 2 weeks ago I fought him tho

[near sigil]

if you're still only around that level of the game, not much you can do to break it ig

there's a way to break structures like that quickly (and lowkey dangerously) once you reach ashlands, but that's a ways away

[paper marsh]

perhaps. What were you thinking?

Oh you were just thinking of breaking them down for the stone?

[wet lodge]

saw a guy build underneath the elder spawner before

[tiny tiger]

Yeah and then making a base around the entire thing as I progressed

My base is literally a rectangle wall with a moat around it less than 20m away from the yagluth altar

[wet lodge]

I want to build a base around the queen spawner if possible

[tiny tiger]

#screenshots message my base for reference its foggy tho

right after i take the screenshot the fog clears up...

Fortunately I do have a few pillars nearby but there’s a lot of tar pits and fulings and I died twice to the growths while building my moat so I’m not too keen on them

[tiny tiger]

Regarding your stone mining project I recommend using a campfire and mining underneath the rocks or copper nodes for resting bonus which drastically increases stamina regeneration

[paper marsh]

A base on top of the fingers (or on the ground but using the fingers as fortifying walls) would be much cooler

[tiny tiger]

True, I think after my yagluth fight I’ll expand towards it

[paper marsh]

damn now I kinda wanna make a yag base to defend

[tiny tiger]

Go for it

[vapid hearth]

I hope the Deep North introduces big portals that allow me to pass through with rideable animals

[wet lodge]

capes for your animals so you can catapult them

[paper marsh]

tbh once I get to Ashlands I think I'm gonna stop using portals

[tiny tiger]

Okay I got just about a wooden chest full of stone from a stone pillar

is that typical?

[paper marsh]

yea. Plains pillars gives tons of stones.

Mountains are good too. Usually not as much stone per boulder, but there's a lot more boulders to break

[wary shore]

I'm pretty sure it is

[paper marsh]

My issue is that I think the plains pillars look too pretty so I don't want to break them

[wary shore]

I always collect my stone from the mountains

Also, golems are really good at breaking stone

it can do the mining for you, just run around a boulder and dodge its attacks

[tiny tiger]

And you get some extra crystals for windows

[wary shore]

That too, but I hate killing golems because i mostly use the frostner which isnt that good against it

or am i crazy

[tiny tiger]

Maybe with my next base I’ll leave the pillars near by base intact but this time around I’m sacrificing some aesthetics for function, I still have the indestructible yagluth pillars here atleast

I just use pickaxe against them

[wary shore]

they are not indestructible

[tiny tiger]

I tried to break them today and they appear to be

iron pickaxe

[hidden gorge]

they are not indestructible

[wary shore]

yagluth will destroy them

I can send screenshots later, but when I was running around the pillars to recover health during the boss fight, his meteors and magic did do significant damage

[tiny tiger]

See I agree because when I fought him on my first run he broke them, but this time around it’s not letting me mine them and I didn’t try to mine them last time

[wary shore]

my world has 2 yagluths so you can choose 1 to be aesthetic and one as the actual fight area

[paper marsh]

Are they just impervious to player means then? Think I remember in the public test branch someone reporting that they tried breaking them with pickaxe and with ||ram ||and couldn't

[wet lodge]

found a tiny slip of plains with a stone pillar but no enemies, 300 free stone... now to get 5x that

[wary shore]

maybe a black metal pickaxe can break them

[hidden gorge]

afaik only yagluth breaks them

[tiny tiger]

That seems like a weird design choice

[wary shore]

Yagluth can break his own fingers

[wary shore]

is it really that hard to believe that stone that might be too hard for human tools can be destroyed by magical meteors?

[paper marsh]

so impervious to everything but one mob, that's not bad

[tiny tiger]

well considering the other stone pillars which look near enough identical can be mined, yeah

[wary shore]

those pillars are not yagluth's fingers tho

[paper marsh]

but only yags magical meteors? Not ||Faders Meteors||? Not ||Players Meteors||?

[tiny tiger]

and it means the arena looks ugly after the fight and the only way to fix that is killing him till he runs it down to the ground

Makes me wonder if they contain a lot more stone than the average pillar now

[wary shore]

i havent gotten that far because i keep getting rekt in the ashlands

someone should test that out

[paper marsh]

rek 'em back!

[wet lodge]

are ashlands actually hard for once?

people complained about mistlands and I was like "the only remotely scary enemy is a 2 star soldier, and you can parry it..."

[wary shore]

i opened a fortress with a battering ram and a valkeryie noticed and then i got mobbed by everything from inside the fortress and everything from outside it too

[wary shore]

I know exactly how you feel because I feel the same way, and the answer is yes. The Mistlands are annoying but they aren't really hard because you rarely get mobbed by many seekers and infested dungeons are fairly easy to run out of. In the Ashlands if you do anything it will attract a horde of a everything

[wet lodge]

thats gonna be interesting

[wary shore]

Its hard to mine flametal too because of valkeries and because i keep slipping and basically not getting as much as I could

[sharp bluff]

mistlands is a fun scouting mission, ashlands is a war zone

[wary shore]

It sounds like I'm complaining, but it actually makes the ashlands more fun

[sharp bluff]

couldnt you slap down a balista or two before going for the flame metal?

(ok, you'd have to carry half your crafting stations with you)

[wary shore]

I do get frustrated a lot but I can generally get my stuff back on corpse runs and continue

[wary shore]

i only have one pair of the new portals in the place where i first made landfall on the ashlands. Meanwhile all the fortresses and flametal pillars are fairly far so i'd have to carry stuff pretty far. And walking through the ashlands is tedious in its own ways because of the enemies

[paper marsh]

ngl, that's a semi lucky situation. Valkyries only real dangerous attack is their lunge. You can walk out of their spin and their fire moves very slowly. What's good about the fire though is its great friendly fire, so you can use the valk to take out the hordes of mobs

[wary shore]

and also the enemies there will destroy stone walls very easily. You have to get black marble walls if you want walls that will last.

[paper marsh]

Using friendly fire well is key in Ashlands to not get overwhelmed

[sharp bluff]

among some other tricks

[wary shore]

I got mobbed so hard though and didnt have enough stamina to escape them all

[sharp bluff]

just like mistlands stamina management is key

[paper marsh]

Gotta have that askvin/fenris armor handy and an eikthyr in your back pocket

Stamina potion if needed

[wary shore]

I didn't have stamina potions I just realized

[tiny tiger]

Replace mistlands with valheim

[sharp bluff]

bonemass now and forever

[paper marsh]

Bonemass is good

[wary shore]

i never bothered to make the fenris armor and i dont feel like going back to a bunch of ice caves

[paper marsh]

Askvin is prob better anyways, unless you're going mage

[wary shore]

I always play with heavy armor

[paper marsh]

Askvin cape is so fun

[wary shore]

insert gigachad

[paper marsh]

Heavy armor gets me killed a lot (especially on higher difficulty)

[tiny tiger]

Fenris armor is just fun

I like being speedy rn I’m rocking root harnesk with fenris for the plains

[paper marsh]

Also good

[finite lodge]

trying to sail to ashlands for the first time, does the wind always blow against me when going down there?

[wary shore]

The Carapace Buckler is serving me fairly well when I have bonemass up but I really have to get a new flametal shield soon

[paper marsh]

I'm doing a run right now with no resistance meads, and it's so fun

[wary shore]

not always but once you reach the ashlands you'll have to go slow

[tiny tiger]

Sounds like mountains would be miserable

[paper marsh]

Having to actually use clothes that give resistance like root mask, fenris set, etc.

[tiny tiger]

although I guess bonfire strat?

[wary shore]

ow are you gonna survive in the mountains? Are you gonna build campfires everywhere?

[sharp bluff]

only need one silver

[mystic stirrup]

thanks for mac suppport.

[paper marsh]

Yea. Not too bad, just using campfires until I could find a bit of silver. I did skip bonemass so had to feel around for it but wasn't terrible.

Only problem was being ganged up on by 2 hard difficulty golems

[wary shore]

careful icarus...

[paper marsh]

2

[sharp bluff]

screw golems, those are the only mob i refuse to fight unless im extremely overgeared

[paper marsh]

same, they're just annoying. Although I do kinda want a golem trophy, never had one

And on this run I for once actually made an iron mace, so could go fighting some golems

[tiny tiger]

The golem that does the great hammer attack sucks but the pierce one isn’t too bad just jump on his head

[wary shore]

they look amazing. Literally giant blue crystals that would make a great centerpiece for your feast hall

[sharp bluff]

their hits break trough equally tiered blocks and you have no weapon that can properly damage it

[pearl plaza]

Only time I've died to a Valkyrie so far is when its AI decided that it was going to lunge like 6 times in a row with no break in between. Don't know what happened there

[wary shore]

He's too dangerous to be left alive!

[buoyant ether]

what do i do with the ancient seeds ?

[tiny tiger]

pickaxe…

[wary shore]

summon the elder, the 2nd boss

[buoyant ether]

im throwing em around but nothin happen

[sharp bluff]

means no shield

[pearl plaza]

The timing is a little unforgiving, but once you have a shield that can parry them, they're not bad to fight

[buoyant ether]

im on his location

[sharp bluff]

yeah, so either upgraded silver or black metal

[wary shore]

you put it in your hotbar and press whatever number on it

[sharp bluff]

also block timings in valheim are a joke xd

[pearl plaza]

Pretty sure iron buckler works

[sharp bluff]

on hard?

[tiny tiger]

Max iron bucker yeah, with high hp on normal

[pearl plaza]

Oh on hard, no

[wary shore]

Like put it in your first hotbar slot and then press 1

[buoyant ether]

says i cant use it on it ?

[wary shore]

you need 3

[buoyant ether]

i have 3

[finite lodge]

i took a drakkar and couldnt maaneuver through the spike rocks lol

[wary shore]

press E ?

[paper marsh]

Only if you have very high block skill or triple hp foods to do it without staggering. At meh block skill and 2 hp foods I can parry them sometimes, but I always get staggered

On vhard forget it

[wary shore]

first time I went with 2 of our friends but we forgot to bring wood for a workbench and my ship got destroyed :(

[azure yacht]

Press the according hotbar slot

You put the item in hotbar 3, press 3

[wary shore]

are you looking at the altar at the right place?

[sharp bluff]

hence why i consider golems the most dangerous and obnoxious mob in the game

[buoyant ether]

i am looking at the altar

now am on top of it, nada

[paper marsh]

I get obnoxious, but far from dangerous. They move at a snails pace

[azure yacht]

#valheim-chat message

[wary shore]

i play normal difficulty im basically a noob compared to you because I suck

[buoyant ether]

thats what im doing...

[paper marsh]

hey hey nothing wrong with being a noob. I used to be a noob

[buoyant ether]

it prompts "use ancient seed on what?"

[tiny tiger]

Press 3 while hovering over the fire in the boss arena

[sharp bluff]

kinda useless besides being a boss summon

[tiny tiger]

it’s same as eikthyr

[wary shore]

in the mistlands I felt great because i was able to progress pretty smoothly at most stages. In the ashlands I am progressing at a snail's pace

[azure yacht]

Aim at the fire

[buoyant ether]

ive tried the fire, the altar, the sigil, the bonepile

[tiny tiger]

The fire in the middle of the boss arena?

[wary shore]

ughhh I guess I have to collect a bunch of black marble from the mistlands to actually make a good base by the fort where my portal wont be destroyed... but that area is already mobbed and it may get destroyed next time I used it, assuming the mobs havent destroyed it yet 😭

[tiny tiger]

It should say offer (1-8)

[buoyant ether]

theres no fire in the middle

[pearl plaza]

Just make a terrain wall

[pliant hatch]

Can you post a screenshot in https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1202267437647527977 to show us which altar you're actually looking at?

[tiny tiger]

Screenshot and send #screenshots

[wary shore]

holy crap how have I never thought of that before. Genius

[tiny tiger]

That’s the boss locator stone

[buoyant ether]

OH ITS THAT FAR

goddamn q-..q

am stupido

[pearl plaza]

The only thing you'll need to worry about are flying enemies and lava blobs, but it takes more than one blob to get through a normal thickness terrain wall

[vapid hearth]

Okay, I heard of some super dangerous staff that summons a troll that I should under NO CIRCUMSTANCES ever summon in a base since it attacks everything in sight. Is it the Staff of Fracturing? I don't wanna find out the hard way

[sharp bluff]

terrain walls solve 90% of your problems until ashlands xd

[tiny tiger]

lol fighting elder in a crypt would be funny as hell tho

[azure yacht]

That's a veigvisir, it shows you where the actual altar is

[sharp bluff]

its literally called trollstav

[vapid hearth]

Ah, thank you very much

[azure yacht]

At least you now know what to do when you arrive

[pearl plaza]

They solve 90% even in Ashlands

[paper marsh]

^ sadly

[wary shore]

you should make an arena for your base and summon it there lmao

[tiny tiger]

deep north, now featuring the frozen ghost giant which goes through terrain

[sharp bluff]

i have a training center in my base for power leveling blood magic

[wary shore]

well collecting stone and using a hoe is way better than collecting black marble

grrr i hate my valheim chores

[pearl plaza]

If they REALLY want to cut back on terrain wall usage, they should make trolls, abominations, golems, etc do pickaxe damage to terrain the same way that lava blobs do

[sharp bluff]

only golems warrant caring, the others are free food anyway

[paper marsh]

Yea I have a lot of issues with things in Valheim, luckily I am able to solve most of them by just not using certain items/strategies

[sharp bluff]

you can tapdance around abominations for days or until you get a starred draugr arrow in the back

[wet lodge]

the beauty of a sandbox game is that you can play it however you want

[tiny tiger]

Has anyone figured out a fast strat for levelling bow skill, I’ve just been hammering away at bonemass with wooden arrows from the top of his altar

[wary shore]

starred draugr archer made me quit valheim for a week lmao

[paper marsh]

I'd say that's the fastest. Just tap shooting instead of drawing the bow

[sharp bluff]

root armour ftw

[tiny tiger]

Yeah

[azure yacht]

What they should do is make current defensive options more viable.

Why tf are sharp stakes so expensive and (much more importantly), don't return the resources after being destroyed?

[wet lodge]

fight everything with bows from the start of the game, you get to bows 60-70 real fast :P

[pearl plaza]

In fairness this is true of just about everything in valheim. Nothing is a problem until you mess up

[wary shore]

I am heavy armor guy. And this is my armor

[azure yacht]

I wouldn't care about the cost if they st least returned the resources...

[pearl plaza]

And do so little damage and so easy to destroy

[sharp bluff]

root armour has effectively better defense than iron xd

[tiny tiger]

I’m yet to reach level 60 in anything lol, I have the level 50 curse where I die before that

[wet lodge]

I never bother with getting skills above 75 cuz that tends to be the area where I lose more than I can regain before dying again

[wary shore]

all jokes aside im never building iron armor again it's such a waste of iron. If I knew how much I'd need iron for the remainder of the game I would've just made root armor

Oh well at least it looks good on display...

[pearl plaza]

Casual mode should eliminate skill drain alltogether, as well as retain inventory and hardcore mode should delete your character. We need better extremes of the death difficulty slider.

[sharp bluff]

root armour gives you free pierce and poison resistance, which is what kills you in the swamp

[tiny tiger]

Counter argument, your ability to harvest iron at later stages of the game is much better

[sharp bluff]

i mean, you can set that rn?

[wary shore]

yeah but im lazy as heck and dont wanna

[tiny tiger]

Going through the swamp crypts with mountain tier is a breeze

[pearl plaza]

With a mod yes, with a game setting no.

[sharp bluff]

game settings too

[azure yacht]

Those are non-issues as well Vs not returning resources

Seriously, it's a huge waste.

If they did, you could rearm them again, so they at least would work as support to deal some damage and help you, even encourage you to set them up more efficiently...

But no, they don't give the resources back.

If they reasoning was because they feared players might exploit them somehow by not fighting the raids and just spam them everywhere... Well, decision certainly aged like milk

[pearl plaza]

Casual mode still drops inventory and has 1% skill drain, hardcore doesn't delete your character

[tiny tiger]

I thought that’s what hardcore did, what does it actually do?

[wary shore]

i did collect a vast amount of iron in mistlands gear in the swamps (still not enough) but im trying to conserve Iron because my current swamp is almost out and i dont wanna explore to find another big swamp with lots of crypts

[pearl plaza]

Something similar, but less annoying lol

[tiny tiger]

Clarify?

[pearl plaza]

Your character is not permadead, just reset back at your spawn. I'm saying you should lose your spawn position and everything. Total reset and you have to make a new character

you're yeeted from valheim forever on that character. gone

[tiny tiger]

But you lose all your shit right?

permanently

[woeful yacht]

Seems effectively similar

[pearl plaza]

I know, but I'm making an absolutist position and also it's not that deep, I really don't care.

[vapid hearth]

Huh, the staff of fracturing feels like such a downgrade to the Staff of Embers

Patience and focus
I can only assume by "true power only from patience and focus" it means "attack gets stronger upon successive hits. Miss and the attack buff is gone"

[woeful yacht]

oh, carry on then. 🙂

[mossy river]

I'm glad the option to remove skill drain isn't included. To force people to come to grips with a game that has consequences for dying.

[woeful yacht]

I compensate by just not caring about skills

[tiny tiger]

The game is pretty forgiving too with further deaths having no skill drain

I’d say the system works well it’s just getting past the emotional investment

[woeful yacht]

Valheim is many things. "Forgiving" is not one of them.

[paper marsh]

Deleting your character doesn't feel like it would change much for me. I'd say delete the character and the world, to make it feel like more traditional hardcore gamemodes

[pearl plaza]

I disagree. Either don't include sliders at all and make the game truly as hard as you want and never change it, or put in sliders and allow for greater granularity for various types of players to enjoy the game. You already have toggles for no cost building, why is there not an equivalent slider for death penalty? It makes no sense.

[tiny tiger]

Or ghost mode like in terraria so you can still spectate the world just no longer interact

[pearl plaza]

Even better. Delete the world, I love it. Lock the character to the world and the world to the character.

[mossy river]

Build costs has nothing to do with death penalty. There are plenty of games out there for people who want no consequences for dying and to just reload over and over until they succeed.

[idle moon]

I'd say making it so you can portal metals makes the game a whole lot easier than just removing the skill deduction penalty for dying would

[tiny tiger]

No cost building should offer more options, I didn’t realise how broken it was initially as I was expecting it to only affect build pieces

[river forge]

Valheim is anything but forgiving, in any way

[paper marsh]

That's pretty much how I've been playing my permadeath runs

[pearl plaza]

Cool. As I said, it's not that deep and it's just personal view on design decision. You disagree and that's cool. I'll continue to play the game as it currently is and it's fine.

[vapid hearth]

I mean, if you make it to the ashlands and thrive long enough to make a stone portal, as far as I'm concerned, you've earned that right

[sharp bluff]

eeeeeeeeh

[tiny tiger]

No skill drain, corpse run uhhh what else

[river forge]

bruh, corpse runs are hell

[idle moon]

I'm talking more about the world modifier that affects basic portals too

[river forge]

Skills and armor are basically pointless

[woeful yacht]

That's not "forgiving", that's "slightly less punishing" 😆

[tiny tiger]

The gods are merciful then

[finite lodge]

whats the highest amount of hp a single slot of food can give

[river forge]

Weapons do mediocre damage, stamina is passable with max sta foods

[woeful yacht]

100?

[sharp bluff]

more as of ashlands afaik

[river forge]

If you can't parry well, you block, but blocking REALLY stinks

[woeful yacht]

I forget what the ashlands pie has... might be 105

[vapid hearth]

Ohh, I see, I see

[pearl plaza]

I just think it's weird to have the distinciton for a casual setting that is not truly casual. If you don't ever want your game to be truly casual, I get it - but why be so insistent on the skill drain mechanic? Be more granular for the true casual players

[finite lodge]

dang cooked bonemaw meat sucks then D:

[river forge]

Forgiving?

Valheim kicks your butt, and asks if you want fries with that

[sharp bluff]

except that you can watch a valheim speedrun in the parry window xd

[paper marsh]

I am surprised you can reach like 230hp in swamp actually more like 270 since Ashlands update

[idle moon]

the issue with cooked bonemaw meat is that each piece weights 10lb

[woeful yacht]

It's not terrible for going to the ashlands for the first time. Once you get there ther eare better options

[pearl plaza]

Thought I saw 105 with one of the new foods

[finite lodge]

do i want root harnesk in in ashlands still?

[tiny tiger]

Also I wish R locked those items to your back, instead of resetting every time you switch weapons

[pearl plaza]

Fenris is top tier for ashlands

[celest wing]

Does anyone have any suggestions for a mage themed mod? My girlfriend wants to do a run with only mage weapons and I'm not sure what to recommend her

[sharp bluff]

pretty sure you have superior options by then

[finite lodge]

i was surrounded by enemies when i got to the shore and barely slipped out through a portal so when i go back there i have that to deal with lol

[paper marsh]

debateable. Fire weakness isn't too important, although you could always get fire wine. Some notable pierce damage in Ashlands, but it's not a must like in Mistlands. Entirely up to preference

If on higher difficulty the case for root harnesks gets stronger

[woeful yacht]

Welcome to the Ashlands. Make sure to get your frequent portaler card stamped.

[river forge]

My first venture into ashlands was on hardmode

hard difficulty

[vapid hearth]

Oh boy have I learned that ever since I tried looking for my first ever Swamp biome. Ended up with a small Swamp biome with no sunken crypts for me to get iron from, and my base was sandwiched between two Plains biomes, only for me to much later learn that there was a much larger neighboring Swamp landmass that I completely skipped because the minimap told me it was a Black Forest

[finite lodge]

i barely was able to sail there i am stupid for making a drakkar

[river forge]

I hope deep north has a little more favorable stuff thrown our way

[celest wing]

I literally just had a moder fight that chose to spawn around 20 enemies throughout the battle that caused it to go on for almost half an hour

[river forge]

lol

[tiny tiger]

wolf raid?

[celest wing]

Literally at the end it spawned a fenring and 5 wolves at the same time

Not to mention the dozen drakes and 2 stone golems

[vapid hearth]

That right there is why you always dig a trench around the Moder pedestal with a portal underneath

[river forge]

Trollstav
Cool, can summon a friendly troll, finally something worthwhile

Summons big psychopath on fire, hates everything

Troll devs

[tiny tiger]

You’d be kinda pissed too if you came hurling as a meteor from the heavens to crash land in what is essentially hell

[pearl plaza]

I really believe that Valheim is currently suffering from a dedicated playerbase that is 3 years old that has spent those 3 years getting very good at the way the game works and that without changing that fundamentally, those players who are good at the game are going to stomp all over new content. I think had it been in the game at the original release, it would've been received much differently but I really don't see how much it could be made more difficult (outside of obnoxious stuff) without some major changes to how the game operates in general.

[river forge]

Glad I didn't summon it near a base

[paper marsh]

I hope deep north has a more interesting challenge, stronger gear, and gear equally unique to that of Ashlands

[river forge]

I wonder if enemies scaled much higher than summons

My summons in ashlands did squat to enemies, trollstav trolls struggle with more than 2 mobs

If I went there in normal mode, does trollstav trolls actually do well

[vapid hearth]

Hoookay, nevermind, turns out this staff hurls explosive fireballs :O

[pearl plaza]

My problem with skeletons in ashlands are that they're incredibly stupid and run off into lava or water to just die immediately. Also why does water do damage to skeletons with no delay?

[tiny tiger]

The game is based on Norse mythology and the deep north seems like it will take inspiration from Helheim with a valheim twist

[paper marsh]

Nope, scale the same

At least for skellies, can't imagine trolls are different

[river forge]

well the troll damage was pitiful

I did more damage with mistwalker

[shy marlin]

they aren't

[pearl plaza]

Trolls work best as a distraction to do damage yourself, I find

[river forge]

That's not helpful

[paper marsh]

Skellies get double damage on Vhard which is pretty bonkers honestly. If you manged to get 100 Blood magic, that's a total of 9x their usual damage

[pearl plaza]

I find that it is

[river forge]

The troll hits you too

[pearl plaza]

They're incredibly easy to dodge and get aggro'd on the enemies

especially if you summon them far enough away from you.

[river forge]

Feels like they just had to add an anti-feature to what could have been good

[tiny tiger]

It teaches you to use the big mobs against the little ones in Ashland’s

[pearl plaza]

Maybe. It would have felt cooler/more powerful if you summoned an ally, but the staff is still quite good

I have been using Dundr and Staff of the Wild way more, though. They're my two new most-used staves aside from the shield

[tiny tiger]

dundr is the shotgun right, what do you find it good for?

[pearl plaza]

Morgen and Valkyrie

The knockback is huge and with the right timing I can knock back the valkyrie as it tries to claw me and avoid a hit

Morgen are weak to it and again - knockback is great

Dundr kind of sucks on the Asksvin and Charred, so I use staff of the wild and dance in a circle for them

Anything too chaotic for either of those strategies, I call in a troll to break them up first and then pick off stragglers with the other staves until the trolls die or I finish up the stragglers. I usually try to get the trolls to deal with the valkyrie and morgen by running in a circuit until they notice each other and that works pretty well

[woeful yacht]

Interesting

I'll have to give that a go next time I venture in with mage robes

[pearl plaza]

So I tried mage robes first and I was running into an issue with faster mobs catching me too easily. I use the staves with Fenris armor and Asksvin cloak now, running Queen buff to make up for missing eitr regen

Alongside lingering eitr mead and rested buff, of course. Then it's 2 eitr food and 1 stam food with your preferred melee/ranged weapon as a backup

[woeful yacht]

Why fenris?

[pearl plaza]

It's the only armor with a straight movement buff

[woeful yacht]

interesting

I'll have to play with that setup

[pearl plaza]

The only problem is you have to remain aware of the wind, because in order to escape certain mobs you'll still need the benefit of the wind at your back - I'm thinking valkyrie doing their lunge for the most part

[woeful yacht]

sure

[pearl plaza]

I do wish moder buff worked even when you aren't in a boat, though - would be a nice QoL change for that cloak

Same setup made Fader really easy, too. The movement speed was great and the trolls and vines killed him easily

[paper marsh]

I dunno, I think it's pretty cool that they're an enemy.

I am at least glad that it's an enemy so it's not too powerful

[paper marsh]

movement is much, much better than a slight bit of extra eitr regen

[pearl plaza]

Yeah, I'm just saying power fantasy would be cool if they were an ally, but I'm already to terms with them being an enemy and it still feels really cool

[finite lodge]

what is the most used resource in this game? is it finewood? or maybe iron? idk

[paper marsh]

I'd say wood

Depends on the player though

[thorn wren]

Have devs or anyone informed said anything about adjustments for Ashlands? I'm curious if the team thinks the density issue (I've seen a lot of people complain about) is actually an issue or not?

Personally, I think it might be a bit high. Even stepping through my portals to Ashlands right now in full end-game gear it can be overwhelming sometimes.
Just today I went out to collect some herbs there and within 2 minutes I had killed 4 Asksvins, 6 Marksman, 5 Warriors, ~6 Twitchers, and a Fallen Valkyrie
To be clear, I was inside of or very close to my shield generator and only on the north side of it... the entire time.

It seems weird to me that things seem to like... "settle" in Ashlands. Seems like you get hammered the first couple minutes and then it's not so bad after --- still a lot of enemies but it feels like you are on top of it because you've already killed the initial wave.
I'll say it's not surprising many people seem to be struggling.

[finite lodge]

i can use charred bones in place of regular bone fragments but i cant use any other type of woods to make a basic crafting table D:

[paper marsh]

They addressed it in public test. A lot of people complained about enemy density so they severely nerfed it. No news since then though

I think it's kind of the point of the biome though. The whole theme is going to war, which implies hordes of enemies. And the biome is kinda built around making it manageable, by giving most the major mobs a bunch of friendly fire attacks so you can take out batallions of enemies without equipping your sword

[thorn wren]

The stagger ranges for the enemies is pretty high imo, before switching to Berserkir Axes I didn't even know you could stagger the Warriors without parrying them

[paper marsh]

askvin I find pretty easy to stagger, and staggering a morgen with lightning berserkir axes while it's distracted by skellies is nice too. haven't tried much on the others though

[pearl plaza]

I still haven't really tried out the axes. Outside of my first fortress raid, I haven't been using melee much at all in the Ashlands.

[thorn wren]

Asksvin and Marksmen, I think even Twitchers are fine

[pearl plaza]

I'm enjoying the speedy mage setup way too much

[thorn wren]

Warriors seem wildly hard to stagger. There were times with Mistwalker I'd parry and then hit them for 70+% of their HP bar expecting a stagger, take a hit to keep swinging, and then just kill them
and I'd be sitting there like "Can't believe it didn't stagger, wow."

So assumed pretty quickly that they were just not staggerable without parry ---- turns out not true but that was only after using Berserkir Axes

[paper marsh]

Well if you hit them while they're staggered that won't prolong the stagger, will it?

[thorn wren]

No but it works towards a new stagger

you can see this with earlier enemies all the time, like Trolls for example if you parry them and start wailing on them you'll stagger them pretty much in a chain and just kill them

(with later weapons I mean, unlikely to kill them that fast with bronze or maybe not even iron)

[paper marsh]

yea like, hitting them while staggered fills their stagger bar, but then you still have to hit them one more time after the first stagger ends, for the second stagger to trigger, right?

[ember panther]

I believe you need to do enough damage within a short period for the stagger to occur. Mistwalker mightve been too slow

[thorn wren]

So what I mean is I'd parry a Warrior at 100% hp, then in stagger #1 I knock him down to 30% hp, and he still didn't proc stagger #2 --- Then continuing to hit him assuming because of all the damage he just took the next stagger is right around the corner --- but no. It doesn't proc ---> The warrior just dies with no stagger #2

[thorn wren]

yea, I wonder if there are other factors because I don't think I kill them much faster with Berserkir Axes, but the swings might be closer together timing wise--- even if the overall damage output is similar

[paper marsh]

I will say charred warriors look sick af when 2 star. Once had 3 2-stars run up on me and it looked epic

Fighting charred feels trivial though when there's not other mobs to pressure you. They move very slowly

[thorn wren]

Honestly I'd like to see some changes around giving Ashlands enemies fire damage. I find it a little weird that 0 enemies out there do fire damage

Well that's not entirely true I guess warlocks do

[paper marsh]

Enemies and ||dvyrwyn || could use some more fire damage for sure

[paper marsh]

and valks and lava blobs and boss

[thorn wren]

Oh they shoot purple fireballs too I guess that's fair and yeah blobs --- 0 is definitely hyperbolic xP
But it's weird that 95% of the Ashlands enemies you engage don't do fire damage

[hidden gorge]

I honestly find it more strange that none are weak to cold

[vapid hearth]

Alright, time to explore further inland and see what other materials I can find
I feel like taming an ask will be crucial

[paper marsh]

I know lava blob and skelly troll is

[ember panther]

Yeah if the axes proc lightning and do a double hit its a guaranteed stagger

[paper marsh]

Lighting weapons on a marksman is nice. Hit them once to take away a good chunk of health and stagger, then lighting procs and does crit damage to finish them off

[frail roost]

I don't think it's happening. Whenever anyone asks the devs say "It's supposed to be a war zone"

Should note, however, that some people have discovered spawners inside rock formations, so that may be part of the reason why some people are seeing near endless spawns

[hidden gorge]

I don't really count skelly trolls cause you have to spawn them in -- otherwise they don't exist, but yeah there's technically "one" but still -- I would have expected more

[paper marsh]

I'm glad there's not more though, I feel frost damage weapons is already a bit overpowered

makes sense for the charred at least to not be weak to frost

[hidden gorge]

they're better as support I guess, but I play solo a lot and find them kinda lacking -- slowing stuff down isn't as important to me as dps

[paper marsh]

It's not just to slow stuff down though, frost is an element that few enemies resist (and really, you can make any enemy weak to it by dunking them in water)

for example Frostner and frost arrows hold up great in mistlands because mistlands enemies resist most weapons, but frost isn't resisted

[hidden gorge]

dunking enemies in water is a very niche situation

[paper marsh]

in most biomes yea. In Mistlands it can be pretty useful, but that's more of a sidenote

[hidden gorge]

and like, even if they don't resist -- the accuracy is so low that generously half your shots have no effect

[paper marsh]

Frost doesn't have accuracy

[hidden gorge]

exactly

I'm referring to the icicle staff btw

[paper marsh]

ah, ice staff is good imo. I usually hit majority/all my shots with it but you gotta pick your targets and effective range though

[hidden gorge]

I guess frostner does have the same effect, although I don't have any qualms about it's performance -- the icicle staff though is mainly what I find underwhelming

[paper marsh]

I've always liked ice staff more than embers, although that's not to say it's better

Ice staff is one of the few mistlands weapons I find to be pretty well balanced. It does decent damage, and can easily lock down a single target. Struggles a bit more in combat with multiple targets

But then there's Ember staff which does about as much damage and can hit many enemies at once and can be jump cast instead of channeled, which is just way too good

[hidden gorge]

nah, ice staff just needs to be brought up to it's level 😉

[white mural]

would the aa in your name (dont have accents on keyboard) be just a longer pronounciation of it? or is there a rule for if someone has that combination in a word?

[hidden gorge]

lol, nah it's a bit of a joke -- I don't have accents on my keyboard either

[lunar thistle]

add flip emote i plead

reason: need to do that

[white mural]

i had recently finished mountains, but now i dont really want to continue, since there is still a bunch more to do, and setting up a base near plains might end up being really annoying

[paper marsh]

Damn I find having stuff to do and content to go through as what encourages me to keep playing a game

[hidden gorge]

plains are arguably the objective best place to build a base

[lunar thistle]

plains base is surprisingly pretty chill as long as u make a moat

the primary portion of my base is in the plains and the only thing that rlly gets me is like, the bugs, but they just ram into my spikes and die so idrc abt them

[white mural]

i have a place where there is plains, swamp, and mistlands pretty close to each other

i think the problem for me is just chopping trees for wood

[vapid hearth]

Celestial feather acquired
Now I just need to figure out what other materials I need to actually make progress
Maybe some of that flametal ore

[ember panther]

Plains is easily my favorite biome

[paper marsh]

Don't need a moat, plains is chill

[paper marsh]

raiding a ||fortress ||would help a lot

[white mural]

but what if im planning on using fenris set with flesh rippers?

[lunar thistle]

where do i find these :(

[white mural]

though i realize with my limited skill at the moment, im not sure if i should use flesh rippers, seems like you have to get used to its attacks

[lunar thistle]

i know the mob that drops them but i just cannot find any

[paper marsh]

Flesh rippers are pretty good. They attack fast, fast attacking weapons are typically easier to use since you're not locked in a hitting animation for a long time, so you have time to parry or roll away when someone hits back

Unfortunately they're very bad at blocking, and medium at parrying though

[vast chasm]

is it god to kill the first boss on day 5?

[lunar thistle]

if u want, hes not that hard to avoid

[vast chasm]

yes i now

[vocal rivet]

There's no reason to avoid him.

[white mural]

i imagine i cant parry a normal troll

[hidden gorge]

you can parry anything as long as you have enough health and defense

[white mural]

i can parry anything.. with my body

if i eat enough food, i will be invincible

[paper marsh]

parrying with your fists is a gigachad moment

[vapid hearth]

Aw dammit, imma need siege engines for that

[paper marsh]

Not necessarily, because unfortunately forts are poorly designed.

But it definitely makes it more fun!

[white mural]

i parry with my stomach, it would be an elastic collision, and the troll would be knocked back from the force of it pretty much punching itself

dont ask how that would work, its just valheim physics

[lunar thistle]

i tried to parry a morgren once :(

i could parry its jump attack everything else killed me

[hidden gorge]

||I feel compelled to point out that elastic collisions are those in which objects deform, resulting in less "knockback" than inelastic collisions -- which have 100% of the energy imparted into motion pls ignor my shame||

[vast chasm]

it sounds like it´s working

[white mural]

ah well, as i said, valheim physics

[white mural]

"An inelastic collision, in contrast to an elastic collision, is a collision in which kinetic energy is not conserved due to the action of internal friction."

[hidden gorge]

omg... did I get them mixed up?

[white mural]

i thought elastic was where all energy was conserved, usually involving both objects bouncing back (not considering mass)

[hidden gorge]

quite possibly, it's been a minute since physics 101

[white mural]

elastic is sorta where they transfer their energy without losing any

i had recently had AP physics class, but i forgor

so if a ball hit another ball, and the original ball stopped moving when it got the other to move, then im pretty sure that's inelastic

nvm

[vast chasm]

you must eat a ton

[hidden gorge]

nah, you're 100% right: elastic = no deformation | inelastic = deformation -- I've always struggled differentiating them because the names don't make sense -- similarly in how electric poles are named -- edison was a horrible awful prick

[white mural]

i think it makes sense, but they coulda chosen easier words

[hidden gorge]

yeah, when I think of elasticity, I inherently think of deformation

[white mural]

just a reminder that there are perfectly elastic, and perfectly inelastic collisions

[hidden gorge]

in theory, not IRL though (cause friction) ||(it's always friction)||

[regal spoke]

I believe the "telephone" pole was Westinghouse +JP Morgan thing. A serviceable infrastructure

[white mural]

physics doesnt like to think about real life examples, it's all a land of perfect balance and no horribly complicated variables

[hidden gorge]

I meant positive / negative, not wooden, sorry

[regal spoke]

🤣 no worries

[vast chasm]

i build no my base

bye

[regal spoke]

Be well

@hidden gorge you're not wrong about Edison

[hidden gorge]

lol, for sure. In any case, to end on a lighter note, Angela Collier is like the polar opposite and like my all-time favorite physicist, for those who might be interested in more physics stuff

[vapid hearth]

Phew, managed to re-locate my original taming pit that had the one-star ask trapped inside
Now I can resume the taming process
Preferably with a nearby hidden campfire or workbench so the food doesn't de-spawn

Oh shit, a green beam off in the distance, and a building at the bottom of it
...could it be?
Aurora Borealis?? 😱

[vocal rivet]

Somewhere other than Earth? Unlikely.

[ember panther]

Aurora borealis? At this time of year, at this time of day, in this part of the biome, localized entirely within this fortress?

[vapid hearth]

Yeees

[hidden gorge]

loki's poking holes in the sun

[livid widget]

What does the No Build Cost modifier do? I was hoping I could terraform with it, but it still requires stone to raise earth

[vocal rivet]

It means you don't use resources to buld things.

[livid widget]

That was my assumption. Why is my hoe still requiring rock to raise earth?

[vocal rivet]

Because you're not building anything?

[livid widget]

Are you saying terraforming doesn't count as building?

[vocal rivet]

No, that's why it has a different name.

[sweet bay]

IMHO it should not require stone. AFAIR nocost via "cheats" removes all costs. For crafting as well.

[livid widget]

It doesn't seem to work for any building

[sweet bay]

so maybe you just enabled it wrongly? Maybe for another world.

[livid widget]

Maybe the setting is busted on the server.

[vapid hearth]

Alright, time to see if I can find some Flametal Ore, since I think I'll need flametal in order to raid a fortress