valheim-chat

[hollow crag]

Well that's good enough for me

[burnt glen]

well duhh... wood can break metal and stone can't, it's science.

[ebon raven]

Breeding is checked every 30 seconds. Creatures gain a love point if the following conditions are true:

Random roll of 33% succeeds.
The creature is not hungry.
The creature is not alerted (no red exclamation mark).
Total number of creatures and offspring is less than the limit (including the creature itself).
Suitable partner exists nearby (tamed, not hungry, not pregnant).
The area is active (any player within ~64 meters, exact distance depends on the underlying zone system).

[strange arrow]

which wood is harder than stone in science?

[ebon raven]

id bet oak would be harder than limestone

[strange arrow]

coz golems look like chalk monsters

[vapid hearth]

Is there a reason my blast furnace isn't working despite having coal and blackmetal scrap in it?

[ebon raven]

have you covered the top?

if you dont leave room for smoke it will smother it

[vapid hearth]

...oh, I see
That explains it

[strange arrow]

1m of clearance min needed

[ebon raven]

alot of people make the mistake of bringing their furnace inside once they get a stone base

and forget about the smoke

[hearty niche]

I've always enjoyed a more pastoral setup.

[strange arrow]

just being more generous with floor height spacing makes for an easier time with that

[hearty niche]

I think it looks neat to have a little village/compound.

plus outside you don't gotta worry about ventilation

[ebon raven]

i normally make a building for it and give it a chimney

[burnt glen]

I do a Plains Outpost that includes all of the machines unlocked after Moder, and all crops up to that point.

[strange arrow]

6m high floors might seem like a luxury until yr place becomes a smokey death zone xD

[livid widget]

I farted!

[ebon raven]

just make vents

[strange arrow]

vents work, chimneys, even just containing it

[vapid hearth]

Oh, all my smoke is corralled into a convenient trench that it then exits my house out of

(Honestly I thought that was the standard in Valheim)

[ebon raven]

alot of people dont think about just containing the smoke

the hearth has snap points so i normally build it into a full fireplace and chimney

[vapid hearth]

How do you normally contain the smoke, if I may ask?

[strange arrow]

it dissipates after like 6m

[ebon raven]

build a cavity above it

[strange arrow]

so you make a 6m+ box above the fire

[vapid hearth]

Also, swamp base supremacy, on account of it providing 24 hour wisp service

[strange arrow]

also any floors you build above that and stand on won't have you dying

[ebon raven]

24 hour wisp service?

[sonic sundial]

wisp always come in the swamp because always raining

[ebon raven]

you dont need a awful lot of them i just plonked the fountain down at my base

[sharp crypt]

Did you ever find a solution?!😔

[ebon raven]

by chance have you got some huge crop fields or have lets your boar/wolves/lox breed to silly levels

any mods would be my next question

[strange arrow]

funnily enough i was noticing this as well today

i was flying around and certain chunks were just empty, i could see the sand below them, no water, for several minutes some of them until they populated, mainly where the POI's were

[ebon raven]

oh have you been staying awake through multiple nights? when you sleep the game unloads unused assets so staying awake for weeks on end can cause performance problems

[strange arrow]

seems like there might be an issue with POI's spawning in too slow

[ebon raven]

wait flying?

[strange arrow]

yeh i was looking for a Queen spawn on one of my worlds

her POI took the longest of all to load

[sonic sundial]

console commands

[ebon raven]

why not just type your worldseed into the valheim map thing and it will locate all the poi?

https://valheim-map.world/

[strange arrow]

i was already in game looking at another issue

[ebon raven]

flying can cause serious performance issues

[strange arrow]

defo seems like a problem with POI loading times tho

i've done it since i first used commands, and POI's have never been that slow, or where i could visibly see the missing chunk xD

[ebon raven]

is it a long lived world?

[strange arrow]

no, post Mistlands

[ebon raven]

theres a console command to update the texture mesh in a area which improves performance

alot of terraforming can cause problems

[strange arrow]

no terraforming, these were fresh areas

unexplored until today

[ebon raven]

yea but terraformed areas can affect the entire world

is it a dedicated?

[strange arrow]

solo world, 0 mods, ever

[ebon raven]

how much ram you got?

[strange arrow]

32gb

[cinder echo]

do the dungeons in mistlands respawn?

[strange arrow]

yes

[cinder echo]

like even the cores?

[strange arrow]

mobs and jelly only afaik

[cinder echo]

good to know thank you

[strange arrow]

added shots in #screenshots

[strange brook]

is dundr broken? cuz it's just waste of eitr

[livid widget]

Dundr Mfln?

[strange brook]

staff

[plush umbra]

a health leech vershion would have been nice...

[ebon raven]

that is odd, considering its a single player world id have a look and performance then if thats okay id validate the game files

[strange arrow]

once the POI's finally load in it's fine, verified files and no issues

[ebon raven]

i've never seen this happen on a dedicated and havent seen it in single player other than when flying at icredible speeds

[strange arrow]

yeh and you could see i was pretty stationary taking those shots

[ebon raven]

yeah it should load in in around 5-10 seconds after you stop moving when flying around

[ionic iron]

It’s rad and very useful against Morgan’s

[strange arrow]

that would be fine, however it's more like 30-60 seconds rn

[ebon raven]

if its taken that long its likely a local issue, could be so many things

[strange arrow]

i only mentioned it seeing as someone else seems to be having the same issue

[strange brook]

yeah i know, but it drain too much eitr automatically

and get cancelled if you sprinted or attacked

which only waste of eitr

[ionic iron]

That’s for balance, it’s not broken. Don’t run or pull out a melee weapon. You don’t normally need to

[old kite]

When was the magmafish added?

[strange brook]

it's better to use it as we will, not automatically recharge

just my opinion

[finite lodge]

is it possible for xbox game pass players to use a mod that crafts from nearby chests

[timid crater]

why is this game coded to have the wind go against the direction youre sailing 100% of the time

[vapid hearth]

Is there wind in the Swamp? Or does the perpetual rain block out any potential wind?

[strange brook]

whats askvin food

[burnt glen]

Any food you can find in Ashlands

[strange brook]

alright

[strange arrow]

Mistlands

[strange arrow]

you can still get tailwind while sailing in swamp biome

[vapid hearth]

Oh, I mean wind to power my windmill

[strange arrow]

i'm assuming there is some, but i know for certain Plains gets the most/fastest winds for the windmill

[ebon raven]

its not

and you can harness the wind by putting it on your side traveling with side wind is still faster than with no wind even if you need to adjust your course to get it

[vapid hearth]

Ahh, thank you very much
Plains wind it is

[ebon raven]

just build your windmills inside your plains farm for wheat

what happens if you sail any of the old boats into the ashlands?

[tight yacht]

they start to die in the boiling water

[ebon raven]

does the same happen to buildings?

[tight yacht]

not sure

[ebon raven]

i just found out stacked fish can swim

[livid widget]

Do leviathans respawn?

[tepid prawn]

yes, if a certain thing happens, and there is a device that prevents it, can spoiler it more if you want me to

[teal tiger]

So not to be rude but did Devs forget Gjall exist when they added the very weak vs fire nerf to the feather cape for Ashlands?

[ebon raven]

feathers are logically weak to fire

you have yagulf power or meads to buff your resistance if needed

[teal tiger]

Sure, but the cape is nearly necessary for Mistlands and the most cancerous enemy is a flying blimp that vomits fire.

[ebon raven]

so drink a fire mead

[teal tiger]

I do

[ebon raven]

so whats the problem?

[teal tiger]

I'm still pointing out it's a questionable design choice. If feathers being naturally weak to fire is the argument, why wasn't the cape weak to fire for the last year and a half? I'm just saying it seems they forgot the change intended for Ashlands would make it much more challenging / annoying when progressing through Mistlands, where the cape is intended to be used.

[ebon raven]

it would be questionable if there wasnt tools like fire mead or yagluth power that easily deals with it

[teal tiger]

But why bother changing it after a year and a half, when you could use the same argument going into Ashlands? You can just use meads or Yagluth there too.. so why change it.

[livid widget]

Do the sea turtles resapwn?

[ebon raven]

because giving the cape a weakness means people will be incentivised to use one of the new capes

without a weakness the feathercape would be used even if there was one with more armor available

it made sense to change it as it isnt the final cape anymore

[teal tiger]

And that's where my question lies. It feels like they are forgetting the zone the cape was made in & for, by focusing on the future biome.

Additional armor on the large Ashlands cape would already be enough incentive to switch for many.

[ebon raven]

the gjall arent dangerous because of fire they are dangerous because of their firepower

[teal tiger]

Idk, Bonemass has saved me from their firepower plenty today but their fire is really nasty, I have to disagree

[ebon raven]

yags power is better for elemental attacks, bonemass is very powerful in general so leaving elemental vulnerabilities makes sense

the mistlands also have easy access to water to put yourself out

[timid crater]

i dont believe you

[ebon raven]

you just gotta sail to compensate, you cant always travel as the crow fly's to every destination

and if you need wind theres always modors power

[tepid prawn]

it wasn't like that for the last year and a half because this is an early access game and things are still being figured out, before we reach version 1.0 there might be a lot of items that will see some changes to balance the game better, that has been stated. Some OP items might get a nerf, some underused ones a buff, this can and will likely happen again before we see the full release game version 1.0 There was also lots of food balancing in hearth and home for instance, its all a part of the process

[ionic iron]

This. Everyone was using feather cape for everything at mistlands cose it had no downside. It rendered all other capes obsolete as it was and with 2 new capes introduced they had to change something to make those capes attractive. Remember they also gave it a massive buff for mistlands in particular with the extra jump and reduced jump stam cost.

There are multiple ways to mitigate it’s one weakness as has been pointed out

[shy marlin]

It’s cool and fun to have items with risks/rewards

Root harnesk is a great example

[plush umbra]

you can unequip it when burning

[ebon raven]

nothing worse than seeing a torch furling wear that

im waiting on my entire group being present to kill elder so im currently using root armor upgraded fully, fishing for iron cause no swamp key tempted to take the staghammer and go look for silver

[tardy zephyr]

You can't farm it with bronze pick anyway 😄

[outer spindle]

How come my blood shield breaks when I perfect parry? It just absorbs all the damage before the shield?

[shy marlin]

Ye

It’s a pro/con bubble breaks while parrying but you can literally parry anything in the game

[outer spindle]

Aww, my tank paladin build doesn't work then.

[shy marlin]

It kinda does? But ye it’s a bit weird

[tepid prawn]

as long as your server is happy with skips, I played on a server where the owner didn't want us to even have early onion seeds from fishing which is a normal drop in earlier biome but very rare

[ebon raven]

its just me and a couple of friends

[tepid prawn]

being OP can be very fun, I'm doing a new playthrough where I go slow with bosses, killed elder in level 3 root and now that I moved to swamp I have level 4 root because I went to mountains for some obsidian

[deep musk]

any good valheim mods? like multiple bosses and weapons?

[plush umbra]

i like planbuild for building

[main geyser]

i dont really get why theres no ashwood roof, the tar roof wood doesnt even have the same colour as the ashwood and the stone roof doesnt really fit it either :(

[plush umbra]

a low angle ashlands roof really would be appreciated

and a grausten roof sidepiece that isnt a curve

[vapid hearth]

I can't wait to find out for myself if the Ashlands still have surtlings

[mystic gale]

lol our base has a campfire that is bugged, it cant be deleted or lit but you can still put wood into it

maybe i should try some kind of delete command

[north pendant]

anyone experience laggy in ashlands? Or just my problem?

[rain flare]

It’s a problem general

[north pendant]

oh I see. hope can be improved or fixed (?) in following pathes

It is really fine and challenging biom

fun*

[cinder echo]

is spamming ice golems with ice staff still best way to brute force level magic?

[north pendant]

I think so? Maybe others have better ways.

[cinder echo]

what does leveling elemtnal magic up do anyway? reduce eitir cost or something?

[opal prairie]

Morgen gjall.

[opal prairie]

It affects the amount of damage dealt by elemental magic weapons, and the amount of Eitr used to cast elemental magic.

[steel copper]

reduce eitr cost and increase dmg

[rain flare]

Meowning 🥰

[opal prairie]

#fanart message

[rain flare]

This is highly sus Kamap 🤣

[opal prairie]

Indubitably.

[river forge]

Is there a weapon in ashlands that does really good damage and is worth getting?

The trollstav seemed like a good idea

But if I use it anywhere near a base I built I nay as well kiss the base goodbye

Took a lot of effort to get into a charred fort

And the reward, the blood gem, let me make a staff which summons a giant skeletal lunatic that wants to kill everything

Anything else I should know before I craft a weapon

[ionic iron]

Have you got any other gems?

[river forge]

No

Not yet

[ionic iron]

The flametal weapons without enchantments are fairly average IMO

So I wouldn’t bother until you have more gems

[river forge]

Yeah looked at the flametal sword etc, nothing great, just a damage upgrade, which will let me do mediocre damage against stuff that can one shot me

[ionic iron]

Yeah swords wise Mistwalker is still better until you can enchant with lightning

[opal prairie]

Some of the staffs seem to work well.

[ionic iron]

Yep magic is best damage wise probably

[vocal haven]

Does anybody know of a mod that allows taming of Hares? It's such a missed opportunity that they cannot be tamed 😧

[cinder echo]

someone doesnt like hare hunting 😄

https://tenor.com/view/elmer-fudd-very-quiet-vewy-quiet-hunting-wabbits-gif-21896551

[vocal haven]

Nooooo, they're too cute 😂

[ionic iron]

Scaly horrible things

Better with a bolt in them

😁

[vocal haven]

Q_Q

[ionic iron]

Plus they are farmable. Put some spikes in the narrow passes

Run through every now and then

No food requirements 😁

[vocal haven]

I have built an ocean base on top of a tiny mistlands patch in the middle of the ocean. There's endless sea, then my house, then a garden in which rabbits naturally can spawn

It's so peaceful. The only problem is they're perpetually horrified

[ionic iron]

Hmm, chuck a wolf in there as well?

Might ruin the vibe a bit

[vocal haven]

I have a tame six star wolf (equivalent to like.. vanilla 1.8 stars or so), I could bring that one XD

[ionic iron]

They’ll be happy with the ready meals

[near saddle]

can lava be terraformed with a hoe? (or mined with a pickaxe?)

[plush umbra]

lava is the ground

you can change the elevation but it will stay lava

[near saddle]

got it ty 👍

[merry pebble]

so it works like the mistlands ground that some can and some cannot be cultivated basicaly, good to know

[near saddle]

yeah I thought of that too

[vapid hearth]

Finally on my way to prepare padded armor
And now enough flour to field an entire plot of wheat

[near saddle]

it looks like the ground types are grass, path, paved road, cultivated, non-cultivable and lava?

not sure if the mountains have cultivable ground but I assume no

[merry pebble]

never tried to cultivate ground in mountains, but even if you could nothing will grow there i believe so not really any point in doing so

[ionic iron]

If you put up a shield generator I think you can grow stuff there maybe 🤔

[merry pebble]

i think i will go and test it, i am curious if you can even cultivate the ground there 🙂

[steep girder]

Atleast for trees, you cannot even plant them in the mountains

[merry pebble]

i believe that was patched recently 🤔

yeah found it, in patch 0.218.14

[merry pebble]

it turns out you cant grow any crops even with shield generator

only fir is able to grow there, shield generator or not

[vapid hearth]

So I'm struggling to get storage at my base, everything's getting topped up.

I keep wondering why I haven't already unlocked the blackmetal chest, which would solve a lot of my storage issues, especially with my blackmetal ingots ready.
So, not being able to for the life of me figure out what else I needed, I looked it up. Only to realize I missed out on a VERY vital construction component for the homestead: tar.

Clearly I'm lacking if I forgot about tar

[steep girder]

Alright nice nice

[worthy turtle]

do u guys have any tips on how to make the bronze age not insufferable 😭😭

like myb in terms of where to build ur first base n everything

[pulsar mortar]

Black forest near ore deposit and make trench

[ionic iron]

Depends what you don’t like

Don’t bother making bronze armour, just an axe and a pick

[worthy turtle]

really?

how do i progress in the swamp after w no bronze armor

[opal prairie]

Don't go for bronze armor, use the troll armor.
Build your first base in the meadows close to black forest and secure it against raids and night time spawns or in the black forest but make either a earthen wall or a trench / moat.
No need to fully upgrade your pickaxe nor your axe (unless you use it as a weapon).
If you have a boat go and hunt for some leviathans so you can make the abyssal razor, which is a knife that is very good for black forest and will carry you trough the swamp as well.

[worthy turtle]

wow thank you

leviathans are the things w the barnacles right

[merry pebble]

i would say that upgrading axe is a good thing if you dont plan to make iron one

i almost never make it since its not really necesseary for anything

[opal prairie]

Correct and you need the chitin from it, you need 80 for a maxed abyssal razor and 30 for a harpoon.
Should take 3-5 leviathans to get enough if you use stamina food and let the bar completely fill before you start mining.
Mine till the last possible moment and use stamina potions to get back to your boat.

[opal prairie]

True but if you are planning on making an iron one then there is no need to upgrade it unless you plan on using it as a weapon and even then it is not necessary.

[worthy turtle]

okay for sure, thanks for the input

[merry pebble]

oh yes, thats why i said if you dont plan to make the iron one 🙂 if you want to make it its really not necceseary to upgrade the bronze one

[opal prairie]

Exactly. I also find getting iron easier than getting bronze, only 1 thing to mine and crypts are easier to spot than copper or tin ore.

[merry pebble]

sure, i usually upgrade it with leftover bronze, i usually mine like 2-3 copper deposits and whatever tin i need for making bronze from it, that ammount lasts me into the engame usually 🙂

[opal prairie]

About the same here 2-3 copper nodes gets me all I need from the bronze age and left over for other things I might want to make later on for various reasons.

[tardy zephyr]

I always dig just one fully and that's more than enough as you get more from mistlands if needed

All I craft is bronze axe to chop finewood and ofc some workbench extensions that's it. I upgrade my pickaxe straight to metal

[merry pebble]

oh one can certainly be enough, i just like to have more than necessary 😄

[undone trellis]

Am I missing something, or does the Ashlands seem to be basically unplayable as a single-player Mage, even with all of the Ashlands-tier gear? I am at my wit's end here and just genuinely want to know how other people are managing this.

The new armor set seems to be such a marginal improvement over the old - the increased Eitr regen is noticeable yet modest but the defense is so low that anything stronger than a 0* Asksvin will two-shot you, and there are so many enemies at all times that... well... yup.

As for the new weapons, I'm not super familiar with all of them yet but so far my experience has been

• the Staff of Fracturing deals worse damage than the Staff of Embers, especially when trying for AoE, but has maybe better Eitr usage, and both suck in the Ashlands because about everything resists Fire there
• the Dundr I only used for the first time just today - took it out for a spin and it seemed to not do much against a valkyrie (in particular, it couldn't hit it at range), then I got mobbed by a Volture which took 3 shots to kill with the Dundr at close range. IDK, I guess it shoots a lot of projectiles so maybe it's better for crowd control?
• the Trollstav apparently summons trolls which are hostile to everything, including you, which I was not expecting (the only other summon weapon summons allied skeletons, after all), so I don't really see the point if they're just going to add to the Endless Horde of Ashlands Enemies
• I want to like the Staff of the Wild but I feel like it takes forever to kill things. I also have that complaint about all other weapons in the game that I've used so far in the Ashlands (though I don't have hardly any Flametal yet), but this one in particular seems to be "effective, yet slow". You have to wait for the roots to grow, then probably kite enemies into them a bunch, and they still take a good few hits to kill even a 0* warrior.

[ebon raven]

you arent meant to get hit

you also should have healing meads and buff meads with you along with your chosen combat power

[undone trellis]

As a mage I always have all 3 lingering meads running

And The Queen usually

[nocturne wolf]

Are you jump attacking to keep movement while dealing damage?

[ebon raven]

the queens power is good when you arent in danger of being 1-2 hit

[undone trellis]

I've been trying to run less to conserve stamina but I do jump plenty while attacking

[ebon raven]

you should be using bonemass or yagluth

[nocturne wolf]

Yagluth's power isnt great because you can use mead instead, use bonemass

[undone trellis]

I feel like Bonemass isn't good enough because I hit the same problem I run into as a melee - that I'm utterly reliant on Bonemass and as soon as it runs out I just inevitably die

[ebon raven]

ideally you would have a friend to share buffs with

[plush umbra]

the good thing about mage is that your attack bar isnt tied to your running bar like other weapons, so you can run while recharging your magic and attack even on relatively low stamina

[ebon raven]

having more dps with the queens power isnt much use if you cant survive

mage isnt the only option available also

[undone trellis]

I need to try using the Dundr some more, I admit, but so far I feel utterly unprepared to fight a Valkyrie as a mage - like I might as well just use a crossbow

I have been using melee more than the mage because unlike in the Mistlands, the mage seems way less viable as a single player

[ebon raven]

also a note on the summon troll thing

[undone trellis]

(Though the melee experience has been far from fun, too, to be clear)

[ebon raven]

its hostile to any non darkforest and meadows mob

[nocturne wolf]

What weapons (and shield if you have one) are you using?

[ebon raven]

so you basically use it to take aggro

[plush umbra]

spine bow is pretty good with valkyries

[undone trellis]

I have a mere pittance of Flametal so far - barely enough to make the crafting stations and then the Embla robes - so I'm using the Mistlands' finest: Carapace armor with Mistwalker and Carapace shield

Progress has been so incredibly frustrating and slow even with melee since I feel like I'm on a five minute timer and either I escape the biome by the time Bonemass is up or I die

[ebon raven]

by design every biome is brutal til you get on that zones weapon and armor tier

they expect you to come with fully upgraded gear from the previous zone

[nocturne wolf]

That combination worked well when I used it. What food are you using?

[plush umbra]

you can hide on the spikes and shoot roots

you can even cast roots on fortress walls

[undone trellis]

I just got access to the best Ashlands foods so I'll be using Piquant pie, whatever the next-best health one is called (I forget lol), and the Crust pie. I had been using Fiery stew + Misthare supreme + Spicy marmalade until today.

[nocturne wolf]

What usually gets you killed while using melee?

[undone trellis]

I think the Mistwalker works okayish, it just deals so little damage to things that I'm always basically overwhelmed. I'm getting really good at parrying most enemies in the biome (except Valkyrie), like I'm not necessarily intimidated by a single Morgen... The problem is that there's always more enemies. You start a fight withy one enemy, then there's three, you kill one and two more show up. That's what kills me.

[nocturne wolf]

Using friendly fire helps when clearing large groups of enemies. All ashlands enemies except voltures and charred can hurt other ashlands enemies. Morgens and valkyries are best for this

[ebon raven]

did you forget your most powerful weapon? the hoe and a stack of stone

[undone trellis]

1. I just was reading this on reddit but I'm unclear what that entails. I get that if you hoe up 4x, enemies can't get to you. So what - am I supposed to make raised pathways across the entire biome? Or just a bunch of disconnected tiny peaks which are hell to try to climb up in a panic?
2. between that and the campfires - why is cheesing necessary? I've been able to engage with the previous biomes without needing any of that crap at all.

[plush umbra]

you can still deal good damage to huge crowds with staff of embers

[ebon raven]

another powerful tool is stealth, its shockingly effective throughout the entire game but most people ignore it

[ebon raven]

nothing like that when you see a group of dangerous mobs you plop a workbench down and have hoe set to raise then if you are getting swarmed on you can hoe the ground up quickly to create a safespot

its a method to disengage quickly to catch your breath or recover

[steep girder]

You don't need any cheesing in Ashlands. Just a really good taste for when to run away and when to fight. This biome will throw everything at you sometimes and you need to swallow your pride and just run away like a chicken

[undone trellis]

You assume too much of my skill levels after 30 hours of Ashlandsing

e.g. I used to have over 70 run. It's under 40 now and falling fast...

[ebon raven]

stealth trains super fast and is effective even at low levels getting a stealth attack does massive damage and you can shoot a arrow beyond your targets and they will go check it out

you can herd an entire group of furlings away from their camp just by shooting arrows at a rock near them

[misty sun]

the arrow only leads them to you, its not as skyrim-like as one might want.

[ebon raven]

they go towards the sound but if you you dont crouch they may notice you

[nocturne wolf]

I've only noticed them moving towards me no matter how much I try to hide

[ebon raven]

some mobs have huge detection range but alot are easily led

[misty sun]

they still know where you are after the shot, and in most scenarios, distance and sneak are there to break their investigation, not maintain a lack of detection as it might seem like.

[undone trellis]

Yup! I can very easily lead them all. Towards me. Can confirm

As in, they all converge on me and then eat my face.

[sharp bluff]

sneak is what you use to get the first strike

[ebon raven]

Sources of noise
Chopping a tree or mining a resource: Creates 100 noise for the closest player within 10 meters (even when caused by a creature).
Building, repairing or deconstructing: Creates 50 noise
Jumping or running: Creates 30 noise (creatures run when alerted)
Moving or swimming: Creates 15 noise
Dodging: Creates 5 noise
Sneaking: Creates 0 noise
Attacking also creates noise depending on the weapon, type of attack and whether something was hit. Noise created by arrows and thrown spears will originate from the hit location but sets the player as the target. Other attacks will originate from the player.

[sharp bluff]

but frankly speaking the only use sneak has is killing deer in melee

[ebon raven]

you use it to split them

if you do it from more than 40m away they go to the arrow instead

[sharp bluff]

you may do that
i have an atgeir

[undone trellis]

I could work on raising my sneak back up - goodness knows it's probably back in the gutter after so many deaths - but I'm not sure how practical it's gonna be when there are just so many enemies, I feel like I'm literally constantly fighting something after all

[ebon raven]

For example, shooting an arrow will attract creatures within eight meters of the arrow hit location (four meters for Huntsman bow). Creatures will start moving towards the player's last known location. However, the player can easily sneak away because the noise does not originate from the player.

[sharp bluff]

which is why you gear for prolonged combat against multiple enemies

[ebon raven]

thats from the wiki

[smoky quarry]

ashland mobs are just forest skellies with a buff

[undone trellis]

The Himminafl hasn't been as good here as I was hoping, it just uses too much stamina for its alt attack to be of much use in the Ashlands. I've had a bit better success with crowd control with the Demolisher, though it still isn't exactly a great solution.

[ebon raven]

the stealth level itself isnt so important its more about not triggering alert status

[leaden magnet]

Ashlands should make less mobs spawn but have them be more dangerous right now it's just monotonous going there

[ebon raven]

id rather have lots of mobs instead of a damage sponge

[undone trellis]

I just don't see it. There are so many enemies that trying to avoid aggroing them doesn't seem feasible because there will always be enemies where I'm trying to go - wherever I'm trying to go. Such has been the experience.

[smoky quarry]

ashland no walk in the park like previous biomes

[ebon raven]

its more about managing the number you fight than avoidance

[leaden magnet]

I do REALLY appreciate having the different mob types be able to hit each other though, bad flashbacks of getting mobbed by greydwarves and a troll and for some reason the greydwarves are immune to the trolls attacks

[ebon raven]

if you find yourself getting swarmed its probably cause you are moving over too much distance when fighting, you want to isolate and kill whats on you before moving into range of more mobs

[misty sun]

Morgen caves are best way to navigate the space and not engage. bunker to bunker travel. caves/dungeons are helpful 'outs' when you've got more than you can deal with or need a stamina timeout.

[leaden magnet]

Cannot count the amount of lives I've saved by dipping into a Morgen Cave and resting by a campfire

[undone trellis]

I have found exactly one of those so far. Three fortresses, a good half-dozen large ruins complexes, etc. and only one putrid hole.

And it's exactly positioned along the coastline.

(Aka not very convenient from most of where I'm trying to go)

[ebon raven]

another thing to consider when venturing into a biome like ashlands is what is your goal, if you don't have a plan things can go south fast

[misty sun]

battleship yamato beach the ship, use it as bait, runaway and find a cave... recover ship materials.. conquer..

[ebon raven]

theres a funny strat ive seen work for most biomes im sure it'd probably work in ashlands too it just requires a bit of tedios setup

you need to get wolves onto your boat then build them a breeding pen that protects them and you just release many many wolves into the biome

[undone trellis]

Plans didn't mean diddly for me tonight. I went in with a plan - "okay I'ma explore in a straight line along the coast then straight inland to where I discovered a new fortress, it looks like there's a narrow landbridge across the lava but I have bombs if needed, then hopefully try and at least start raiding it with my battering ram (I have the mats in my inventory)"
And things went south very fast regardless.
"Oh there's a valkyrie off in the distance. Well it's too far to shoot with my crossbow, I'll just deal with these few enemies which are right here while moving away from it" -> 15 seconds later -> "OH GOD THE VALKYRIE IS HERE, WHY AND HOW, AAAAAAA dead "

[ebon raven]

given how far they wonder and can detect you from wouldnt it make more sense to kill them on sight or when you spot one immediately get far away?

[undone trellis]

It was at that distance where you can see it but can't damage it - apparently even a crossbow won't hit it at that range. And I couldn't get closer because it was over some ruins in the middle of a large lava patch.

[ebon raven]

they are weak to spirit so spinesnap would be best

crossbow is good but its slow reload means its better as a first shot weapon than using for the whole fight

[undone trellis]

I might need to try that. Last time I tried using a Spinesnap I thought, "oh god why does it take that much stamina, yuck, I'm never using this again" and then proceeded to go back to the crossbow because it's best for hunting wabbits

[ebon raven]

your bow skill reduces the stamina cost

[undone trellis]

as often as I used bows, even before the Mistlands, I've never gotten my Bow skill above about 40 or so. And I'm sure it's in the gutter now because Ashlands.

[ebon raven]

given how much skills you have lost tho maybe it would be best to level up a little for a while, gaining bow skill is easy just take a weaker bow and shoot something with alot of health like lox or stone golems

i would suggest silver arrows for the Valkyrie cause they also deal spirit damage but carapace arrows with spinesnap would work almost as well on it

[smoky quarry]

gib me silver ballista bolts

[undone trellis]

I think Charred arrows (82 pierce) would deal the same damage as Silver (52 pierce + [20 Spirit * 1.5 because Weak])

Meaning the same would hold for bolts, if there were Silver bolts

[paper marsh]

Depends against which enemy. Charred are resistant to pierce so silver would win out there

[undone trellis]

we were saying specifically for the Valkyries

[paper marsh]

I c

[undone trellis]

which admittedly are my biggest problem as things stand, except for the whole "there are too many enemies which can hear me from too far away" thing

[paper marsh]

hmm, I rather like when a valkyrie joins the fight. I Feel like only 1 of their 3 attacks is actually dangerous to me, but they do great work slaughtering the other mobs

If there's just valks without other enemies around I might just snipe them with a crossbow from afar to skip the fight. Blood crossbow feels so good

[undone trellis]

I wish! I've tried and it just seems like past a certain distance my shots just don't connect! So then I keep inching closer and then I'll connect with one and it'll deal a good amount of damage (sneak attack!) but that also aggroes it, which okay there goes that

I'm not super intimidated by any of the Charred right now, except for Warlocks (though I've yet to die to one) and 1-star or highers. I found a 2-star Warrior(? I think?) today for the first time and hoo BOY it was not fun.
Valkyries on the other hand, it feels like

• their ranged attacks are when you catch your breath because they do next to nothing
• the spin is really painful - like, a lot - but not too bad to dodge as long as you have the stamina
• the claws are hard to dodge and also hurt
  Problem is that they can move around enough to where I feel like I'm using too much stamina when fighting them. Sometimes they do multiple claws in a row, or spin -> claw -> spin, and those patterns drain me and then I start taking hits and dying.

I probably should level bows because trying to melee them involves a lot of jumping which means even more stamina loss.

[paper marsh]

Admittedly I haven't faced valkyries a bunch (for some reason I've just had very few spawn), but I've never been hit by their spin attack. I'm always able to just walk out of it because it has such a long windup

And yeah crossbow is often more for giving you an edge at the start of combat with a sneak attack, if you're not building it for oneshotting valks

I once had 3 2-star warriors walk up to me (not by a purple spawner) which was surprising. Not too bad to beat though just with magic bc I am not trying to be out here parrying someone that does 600 damage per hit

[undone trellis]

Sneak attack with a Crossbow (the Mistlands one) and Charred bolts deals abotu 40% damage, I think? I don't think you can one shot it? It has 1500 HP...

[paper marsh]

With decent crossbow skill, a blood crossbow, and 3 hp foods you for sure can. Could even substitute some of that crossbow skill for some askvin armor which buffs pierce dmg

I do hope blood gets buffed though, crossbow is about the only place where it pays off

[rustic dock]

Hi guys, where do I find servers to play with a bunch of players, preferably starting fresh

[paper marsh]

in #1024264966712340510 :)

I think you can get a blood crossbow to do over 1100 damage if optimized, which would be 3300+ damage on a sneak attack

Oneshotting a 2 star would prob be a big nono, unless it's possible to sneak attack a staggered enemy somehow

[spring sigil]

Do tamed wolves attack chickens?

[paper marsh]

No

Tamed animals do not attack other tamed animals, and they do not attack their own kind (tamed wolves don't attack wild wolves)

[rugged pulsar]

is ashlands update still in public testing or you are 'forced' to play it?

[lunar sapphire]

Nobody is forced to play anything 😂. You can enjoy your world infinitely without even stepping foot in Ashlands 🤘

But it is publicly released - officially too

[paper marsh]

It's public now. You can set your game version to pre-ashlands though if you don't feel like playing with the update

[strange arrow]

the update being out compells you to play it tho

[merry pebble]

you have them available, nobody is forcing you to play it 🙂

[lunar sapphire]

It doesn’t though.

[strange arrow]

sorry, just me xD

[lunar sapphire]

I mean yes the update is forced but at no point does it have a banner appear saying “GO TO Ashlands!”

I’m sure there’s some way to roll back versions too

[paper marsh]

I do think a certain bird says that you must prepare for war, but that's up to interpretation

[rugged pulsar]

thanks for info 👍

[strange arrow]

you get this content if you want it or not

[rugged pulsar]

you can just avoid them if you're not interested, ashlands and north are obviously located at most southern and northern sides of the world, which are rarely explorated

[lunar sapphire]

Why are you telling me this? I know this 😂

That’s what I’m relaying above

[azure yacht]

Greydwarfs are an enemy from black forest

[high minnow]

If u die u go back to the stone circle unless u made a bed

[strange arrow]

trees are dangerous when you chop them down

[high minnow]

watch out for trolls!!!!!

[merry pebble]

yes

[lunar sapphire]

Yeah.. I’m off for the night

[azure yacht]

You get honey from beehives

[lunar sapphire]

You can stay

[high minnow]

LOL did our bedtime story relax you

[paper marsh]

nono you leave the honey in there for the beeeeeees

[strange arrow]

final boss: a cold angry bee

[lunar sapphire]

Me rn

[paper marsh]

I don't like when Subject gets angry 🥺

[strange arrow]

t'was the awful gifs that did it

cringe lines everywhere

[lunar sapphire]

I mean…

Sure.

[strange arrow]

bad cropping can ruin anyones day dw

[merry sun]

Charred raids

[rugged pulsar]

god of war

[gilded shell]

What is the easiest way to get feathers as a beginner? Just chopping down trees?

[static halo]

killing crows

kill birds bro

i need help someone please ping me . need a good builder

[rugged pulsar]

most efficient at rainy weather, hunt down birds which are flying usually 'round seashore, spears and bows will work for it, none of melee attacks can be efficient against them

[gilded shell]

thank you.

[static halo]

dude what?

some guy in vc popped in said i m gonna kill myself and left

[gilded shell]

.....

[fossil delta]

Its equally easy when its dark. They do not take off in rain or at night. Plus, just get in the habit of shooting them any time you see them.

[azure helm]

Average discord voice chat moment

[silver osprey]

they need to add achievements to val

[azure helm]

Honestly, I'd just play more into melee, since then you can use your bow to start/end a fight, using less arrows, and therefore needing less feathers

that, and use wooden arrows to kill birds for feathers, since those don't require **feathers

[paper marsh]

Think they will once the game launches (once Deep North releases)\

[rugged pulsar]

ngl achievements could make the game feel even more rewarding, there could be achievements for:
getting to new biomes
killing bosses
getting some armours (for example troll)
finding interesting structures (maypole, draugr village or tetra lake)
also for killing unique enemies (serpent, troll etc.)

[vocal rivet]

Those things that you've just listed are all rewards in themselves.

[fossil delta]

I primarily melee. My main melee skill is usually 10 or more points above bow. I do eventually get bow to 100, but I have made shooting birds such a habit I usually have 500 or more in my chests.

[azure helm]

I just kill them when I need them, since it works well enough

that, and my practices of mass-deforestation tend to net me plenty

[strange arrow]

once you have a chicken farm feathers are a breeze

[fossil delta]

😄 I don't do that.

[paper marsh]

My bow skill is 0

[strange arrow]

bet chasing deer was fun xD

[paper marsh]

Not bad at all

[fossil delta]

Sneak works well. Especially once you get around 20.

[paper marsh]

Spears make easy work of them, and jumping at them with a knife is always fun

Also knives are so fun against boar stones. There'll be 5 boars all with their backs to each other and you just run up and backstab them one by one before they can turn around 😂

[fossil delta]

Knives are fun. I love the animation of their jump.

[strange arrow]

not my cuppa

back in the viking day you only carried knives as a secondary weapon/last resort, unless you weren't strong enough to wield a sword

[fair cairn]

i usually have a over abbundance of feathers cause i kill every bird i see

[azure helm]

Id just stab them, because I have a sword. What else would I do with it?

[fossil delta]

I just spent some time learning to use every weapon, to see what I was the most comfortable with. Knives were near the top.

[paper marsh]

||blood || knife backstabs would be really funny

[strange arrow]

it's shame unarmed/fist isn't really viable all the way through

it should be buffed/given more for how difficult it is

[fossil delta]

They did the Fenris gear, so they may do more with it down the road. Maybe at the end.

[strange arrow]

i'd like to see a mechanic like flurry, depending on how you keep up dps, depends how much flurry procs

[fossil delta]

My PC went nuts when I first went into the mountains yesterday. A snow storm set it off. I had to restart my PC to clear it. I still turned a lot of the special graphics off. It hasn't happened since.

Its really weird because I have been playing on this PC since I started playing Valheim. Never had an issue before.

[regal spoke]

Them storms ain't no joke 🤣

[azure helm]

dont wanna be rude, bu this dude plays valheim on a microwave

[regal spoke]

If you've been on the same rig since jump I'd be considering an GPU update or something

[strange arrow]

*toaster

[fossil delta]

Well, you would be wrong. My rig is higher end. Like a 12 gig graphics card kind of high end.

[azure helm]

no, toaster can't have a screen

[strange arrow]

*potato

[paper marsh]

Tbh flesh rippers in mistlands ain't too bad

Especially when hanging around a dvergr that staggers the seekers in one shot

[strange arrow]

nah mine is the real potato, Rob has a high spec setup

[strange arrow]

another reason why they should give them a little more love imo

[fossil delta]

It is very strange though. Never happened in my 4200 hours of playing. Its been behaving since I restarted and changed the graphic settings.

[vocal rivet]

I think Rianu plays on an ACTUAL potato. I don't think he's ever reached double figures.

[white mural]

i just like the fenris set for its move speed

[regal spoke]

Perhaps the settings reset after Ashland's update?

[fossil delta]

I imagine it feels kind of crazy when your getting Run close to 100.

[regal spoke]

When you go from 12fps to triple digits yea. That was my experience anyway

Completely different game lol

[strange arrow]

i thought i'd seen p.much every strange thing Valheim was gonna throw our way by now, then Ashlands 😅

[azure helm]

Ive heard it kinda meta to run fenris leggings for move speed, root harnesk for pierce resistance, and then heavy helmet for armor

[fossil delta]

If your good at parry and dodge rolling you don't really need armor. Sure, your going to miss it when you screw up, but its doable.

[warm sandal]

I prefer to have SOME armor because usually i can dodge roll and parry but at occasion i mess up 😄 not be dead then is such a nice thing so i opt for armor 😄

[fossil delta]

I understand. I actually refuse to dodge or parry because it makes the game too easy.

[strange arrow]

armor doesn't make the greatest difference in later biomes when you do get hit, so you tend to rely on parrying and dodge rolls like Rob said, or go the mage route which is popular now, bubble shield for that stray hit and skele's/trolls for tanking

[warm sandal]

LOL... the game on normal is still a handful for me after 1900+ h in it ... If i would not i would pay the 5% fee way more often 😄

[fossil delta]

My last play through, I managed not to die until I got to the Queen. Then her AoE killed me.

[sonic sundial]

feels bad man

[azure helm]

I die frequently, because there's no point in a good game without some drawbacks

[strange arrow]

we still beat her tho

[warm sandal]

I managed to survive the Queen and then get killed first minute i set foot on ashland terrain laughter i did not expect THAT... well... got wiser now

[strange arrow]

orange ground 🥵

[fossil delta]

Yeah, I like to go into a new biome on my own, because I go nice and slow. Learn each creature, etc...

[azure yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/bane-batman-gif-12311761

You merely adopted lag...

I was born in it...

Moulded by it

[warm sandal]

me too... but reaching ashlands was an ordeal i was not prepared for either... when i retrieved my corpse i had 62 bonemaw meat in my inventory 😛

[azure helm]

just go in, kill em, get killed by em, and then do it again

[fossil delta]

Yeah, I don't expect to do a Zero deaths game when I have a new biome to learn. I did well with Mistlands. I only died 8 times my first time with it. I blame most of those on playing in a large group.

I only expect to not die when I play solo or with my wife.

[paper marsh]

Walking around encumbered in Ashlands does sound pretty deadly 😅

[warm sandal]

well... i did throw stuff out to NOT be encumbered and had to go a few times to get it all home 😄 because boiohboi so many mobs

[paper marsh]

I did some permadeath runs for a while but honestly the game is more fun when you embrace death as a part of life

[warm sandal]

I never play in large groups... when i play solo i can do deathless up to the queen... playing with my husband - he does all the dieing for both of us (being a little to overconfident)

and playing with son and husband...got me killed because the son is even more overconfident and wants to go places he should not yet 😄

[paper marsh]

yay I like doing that too 😄

[fossil delta]

😄 Its the opposite with my wife and I. She does the dying. She does the crazy stuff, like going out on the plains in bronze level gear because she wants the mats NOW instead of when we are supposed to go, and tame wolves when we are still in leathers.

[shell finch]

just unlocked ceramic platea and build the boat. what should i bring to the ashlands

[warm sandal]

my friends don't want to play anymore, after being overconfident in their tanky armor and then diening and having glasscanon ole me kill all the stuff alone to enable them to get their stuff back... i think it hurt their ego to much.

[fossil delta]

😄 It probably did. 😄

[azure helm]

shield generators, stonecutter mats, forge mats to fix pickaxe, greydwarf eyes, surtling cores, and aim for a shore ruins, they make a good starting shelter

[shell finch]

im excited to build a house. i got bones but what are the eyes for?

the tele?

[fossil delta]

Portal mats, I presume.

[azure helm]

portal mats, but you can also use them for a stone portal once you get flaming cores

[shell finch]

can you groe things there?

[warm sandal]

I mean what did they expect..they have like 100h in the game and me 1900h if i had not learned to survive on my own what was i doing 😄 😄

[shell finch]

is food plantable

for some reason g r o w is not allowed to type

[azure helm]

vineberrys are, so you'll want to make a wall farm for them, but the other stuff is only scavengeable

[shell finch]

like a stone wall raised w the hoe?

or do i need to youtube a grow wall

[azure helm]

nono, like multiple grausten walls raised to hold vineberrys on

[shell finch]

ah okay ill go find some berrys hahahaha

[azure helm]

same can be done with wood, but grausten is way more sturdy, and just as plentiful

[odd helm]

Should work with most vertical buildings

[warm sandal]

what I always find difficult to do after playing a higher tier character for a while...start a fresh game and get accustomed to not being able to run as long and hit as many foe due to lack of hp and stam and armor 😄 and skill levels

need to go extra carful until i have at least troll armor

[fossil delta]

I've done it often enough I pretty much have it memorized.

I am glad the world changes every time, or I would have grown bored long ago.

[azure helm]

also why i'd recommend landing at a fortress, its natural cover from charred, and can naturally spawn with vineberrys, leading to a fast farm

[warm sandal]

That is the beauty of the game... it is the same things you do but the settings change. Was starting a new game with the husband today and both of us kept commenting on how beautiful the scenery looked ... just to pick a nice spot for a base is something i so love to do.

[azure helm]

shame you cant make a way to plant smoke puffs or fiddleheads, cause I feel like a planter box made of charred skulls would work so well

[fossil delta]

A "good" spot does make things easier.

[azure helm]

and would give charred skulls a use

[frank bison]

Newish to the game lookin for people to play with

[fossil delta]

#1024264966712340510

[odd helm]

#1024264966712340510 is our dedicated forum for finding groups

[frank bison]

was talking to active players as im looking ATM not later

[fossil delta]

The server owners usually respond pretty quickly.

[odd helm]

And we discourage folks from asking for groups in our regular chat channels

[pliant hatch]

They have a use.
Check your furniture.

[azure helm]

for a mid-looking throne when black marble or stone is right there, and dosen't require you destroying a spawner for them?

[smoky quarry]

i`m not sure if i should build more, or... build even more?! hmm

[azure helm]

I just feel like it'd be a unique way to enhance farming, using out-of-the-way materials to farms something otherwise unfarmable

[pliant hatch]

Well, suggestions channel is down below.
What's keeping you from posting there?

[azure helm]

sheer boredom, and a lack of results

[smoky quarry]

time to roll one with my afternoon tea and head out in the mist

[exotic pawn]

I have 6 players in my server, 4 are noobs.
how can make them to play this game.
They always goto dealth very easily.

[smoky quarry]

there`s no cure for that

[exotic pawn]

I try to give them best armor

[pliant hatch]

Set player level raids and let them progress together.
Perhap even creating a nee char for yourself so it's easier to Guido them.

[azure helm]

time and consequences

[exotic pawn]

turn off Death penalty?

[paper marsh]

maybe, or lower difficulty

[exotic pawn]

gotcha

[smoky quarry]

make it harder & tell them to Get good!

[azure helm]

I say let them die until they learn that what they're currently trying isn't working, teach them to innovate, unless they're 6, then you're screwed

[frank bison]

All Good yall sound rude ill just bounce out Peace

[exotic pawn]

Currently, there are only two people who know how to farm. Should I let them all farm?

and tame

[azure helm]

id say to let them do what they're good at, as they can also learn self-sufficiency while playing solo

[vocal rivet]

Wait, where was the rude bit?

[odd helm]

They're gone, better to let it be

[pliant hatch]

You may consider to give them a small plot for a house, a farm and so on, so they learn all aspects of the game.

[exotic pawn]

So everyone should has a house?

[paper marsh]

My first playthrough I think I used a hammer like a total of 5-6 times by the time I finished plains, and it was almost exclusively to make workbench+portal

[civic inlet]

Trying to figure out the maths of damage for enemies.
A Greydwarf Brute has a damage value of 30.
Playing on Hard increase damage by 50%.
When playing multiplayer, increase damage by 4% per nearby player.

Let's say you're part of a 3-players team on Hard.

What's the damage value of the Greydwarf Brute.
Is it 47.4 : (30 (base) + 50% of 30 (15) + 8% of 30 (2.4) ?

Or is the damage calculated in another order, let's say Hard difficult applies the modification to the base damage and thus the 8% damage from multiplayer is applied on that modified damage value?

[wanton shadow]

does anyone know a server for new people? i dont have anyone else to play with so if you know one that would be great

[odd helm]

Give #1024264966712340510 a browse, plenty of servers to choose from

[little snow]

Hey, is there anyone who could give me 1 lolite gemstone? Pleaseeeee

Or exchange with a bloodstone?

[hidden gorge]

begging is obnoxious, particularly when you can just cheat them in with the console

[dapper token]

you could just spawn one in with console commands

[unkempt raft]

Hey, how is the Ashlands update?

[azure helm]

do not land wrong, or if you do, land with like 8 extra maxed out people, you'll stand a chance then

[unkempt raft]

Wait, this is Ashlands?

[vocal rivet]

Well, you don't need 8 people to play a single player game.

[azure helm]

yeah, but to survive the initial island landing in ashlands? Basically a necessity

[dapper token]

oh boy

im gonna have fun trying to solo ashlands xD

[vocal rivet]

I'd disagree, most of us playtested it solo. It's hard but manageable.

[azure helm]

O yeah, don't forget the thing that the devs introduced only last biome with little incentive to diversify into solo

[pliant hatch]

Not if you look where you land.
Out of the 3 islands I explored, all 3 had a Dverger outpost near the shore.
Which makes a great landing point for a single player.

[azure helm]

that thing being magic, since its really the most effective way to handle mostly anything, unless they get close, then you're boned. Also, thats what im saying

[vocal rivet]

Magic works in solo too.

[azure helm]

you're running a glass-cannon loadout in a biome where everythings either too fast to escape (asksvin, twitcher), too bulky to cannon down(everything except marksmen), or too strong to endure (warrior, morgen)

[nocturne wolf]

blood bubbles are much stronger than glass

[hidden gorge]

ehh, technically, but they don't really save you from more than a single hit

[vocal rivet]

You think it's hard now? You should have played it before they nerfed it.

[paper marsh]

Blood bubbles are pretty durable though. On normal with decent blood magic skill they can take quite a few hits and just be spammed to be resummoned, and on harder difficulty I'd say they're far superior to regular armor since they can block infinite amounts of damage whereas armor and health has a limit

[azure helm]

I sacrificed a whole rant to say this

I have. Me and 2 other tanky-built lads suffered so much in the branch build

[hidden gorge]

we're talking about the ashlands tho, where a single hit is often enough to pop the bubble. what are you on about with "infinite amounts of damage"?

[azure helm]

blood bubbles are limited by health and safe distancing, something closes the distance, and you don't have the time to finish casting before you're hit

[nocturne wolf]

Are you jump attacking to keep movement?

[paper marsh]

A 289 million damage hit would kill anyone just wearing tanky armor and 3 hp foods, but it would do zero actual damage to someone who had a bubble up

Which is why it's nice for higher difficulty where being hit by 600-1000 damage per-hit isn't unheard of

[azure helm]

mans really losing 40% health when you could just dodge

[paper marsh]

I find though that on Normal my bubble can take a few hits before breaking unless against a big gal like a morgen

[pliant hatch]

Advantage of the Dverger outposts:

1. Dverger Allies
2. it has 4 walls with narrow entrances. Making defending it easy.
3. Once the Dverger are gone, smash the ward and set up portal, workbench, defences and spawn protection.
4. Plenty of resources in the crates.
5. Plenty of Fiddlepuffs and often several smokepuffs around.

[hidden gorge]

maybe your definition of "durable" is different than mine then. One, or even "a few" hits before it falls apart I don't think is an appropriate use of the word

[azure helm]

downsides

1. Short

[nocturne wolf]

Compared to viking flesh, it's very durable

[paper marsh]

yea maybe bad wording. Blood bubbles themselves aren't too durable, but they make your viking pretty durable

[azure helm]

I would say that they're not sturdy, but they are protective, like making platemail out of porcelain

[paper marsh]

A blood bubble is generally gonna be weaker than a viking, but since bubbles can be resummoned much easier/faster than you can regen health, it can give you better overall survivability.

Again though it's dependent on difficulty, gear, and playstyle

[hidden gorge]

not really

[azure yacht]

What?

[hidden gorge]

agreed

[azure helm]

read below that

[paper marsh]

magic is just bustedly good. All there is to it

[hidden gorge]

additionally blood bubbles in conjunction with skelingtons give even more survivability

[azure yacht]

Magic? Mage is the most op playstyle in the game.

Of course you're a glass cannon, if you were durable and could also demolish everything at range then why using literally any other gear?

[azure helm]

counterargument: bulky mage is possible, quite probably viable, and rather undersung in efficacy, without blood bubble

[shy marlin]

Mage is not a glass cannon, it's far more durable then melee specs

[paper marsh]

I disagree with mage being a glass cannon, which is why I really want mage to be nerfed

[leaden magnet]

Anybody know if The Queens ability affects ores or just rocks

[shy marlin]

Staff of protection is the most broken item in the game

[paper marsh]

Both

[worn vector]

anyone know the devcommands for flametal and ashwood?

[leaden magnet]

Oh no so I've been basically throwing flametal away from not using it

[paper marsh]

yup

I can oneshot flammetal deposits with queen power

[hidden gorge]

ehh, you can do some pretty broken things with a hoe

[leaden magnet]

Its so over for me

[paper marsh]

It's never over 'til it's over

[azure yacht]

Yes, you can dual class. In which case it's actually a counter point to your own argument about mages being weak

What's more, if you're going for a playstyle that's all about keeping distance and not getting enemies too close and you still die because enemies got too close...

It's definitely not the class' being an issue

Plenty of people have already beat the biome solo despite everything. Very difficult doesn't mean impossible

[paper marsh]

A lot of people do prioritize mage armor and all eitr food over speed and stamina to keep distance. See a lot of people struggling with that

[smoky quarry]

bubble is pretty mega tbh

[plush umbra]

Does a sort of iron farm exist?

[azure helm]

1. Playing mage and mixed mage entail separate playstyles, with different ups and downs for each
2. In a biome full of obstructions, lava lakes, and enemies spawning in all possible locations, keeping distance solo is insanely difficult, especially while casting to help slow enemies down, as you slow down too, especially with reduced stamina from running eitr foods
3. the official ashlands update released on the 14th, 17 days ago, and the ptb released 39 days ago. Of course people will have beaten Fader by now., however that should not be equated to the majority of players, many of whom may not know the ways to "beat" the Ashlands.

That's my opinion, as you've stated yours already

either or, the Ashlands are tough, I think thats agreeable for everyone

[cinder echo]

i feel like magic is super meh in mistlands.

[azure helm]

I feel like they intended magic to be used tons in Mists, but other stuff works just fine

[cinder echo]

much better rather lol

i love magic and the use and playstyle.. just feels really week

all my gear is max upgraded for the mistlands as well all level 3. staffs and armor

[paper marsh]

sort of, but they're not very good

[plush umbra]

how can i find industrial quantities of iron?

i'm talking in the twenties of stacks

[azure helm]

get yer pickaxez ladz

[paper marsh]

Best way to get iron is just diving into crypts or mining swords/armor/bridges in mistlands

Technically you could farm it via fishing (catching a giant herring can give a piece of iron once in a while) or killing oozers at night in the swamp can give a bit, but those are both very slow renewable methods

[pliant hatch]

Don't forget the "slam a 2-handed hammer on the ground in the swamps" method. It's slow too, but it works.

[paper marsh]

Or destroying doors in frost caves

[pliant hatch]

But early game Crypts should give minimal 20 iron.
Late game Mistlands Ancient armor and swords are the best.

Even in Ashland you can farm iron from Putrid Holes, Dverger outpost crates and (not checked there yet) items in the fortresses.

[odd helm]

Ceramic pots have a decent range of goodies

[plush umbra]

mh, alright, crypts it is then. Hopefully i'll find some. Thanks!

[odd helm]

Including iron iirc

[paper marsh]

mhmm

[hidden gorge]

keep in mind "crypts should give" is different than "crypts do give"

0 iron crypts are not unheard of

[paper marsh]

I find crypts typically give at least a couple stacks of iron but maybe that's just my luck

[odd helm]

That's probably the average yeah

[hidden gorge]

yeah, generally they're alright, but it's not a guarantee

[odd helm]

But you also get the unlucky single room crypts with no piles or chests

[pure condor]

Any ideas how to locate spear I threw off mountain?

[paper marsh]

Or two 2-star draugrs staring you down

[paper marsh]

Not any good ideas after the fact no. Best advice is to really pay attention to the trajectory when you see it flying off and running after it.

It very easily bounces off rocks, which means it can go pretty far and fairly off to the side making it hard to find

[slender rover]

Met my first two-star charred spawner today. That sucked. A lot.

The kiting was going well until a Morgen and Valkyrie both joined the train, then I died real quick

[tiny mortar]

THERES TWO STAR CHARRED SPAWNERS??? 😨😨😨

I ONLY THOUGHT THERE WERE NORMAL ONES 😭😭😭

Shits boutta go from 1 to 10 real fast once i find that

[slender rover]

It wasn't my favourite Valheim discovery, let me tell you

[tiny mortar]

I thought the normal ones could spawn any starred ones and there were only normal ones

[dapper token]

seeing all of you guys suffering in the ashlands makes me REAL scared to go explorin there

[paper marsh]

I was disappointed by my first 2 star spawner. It spawned like 3 mobs before I broke it

[odd helm]

Those spawners afaik occur only twice naturally in the Ashlands, ||and they protect some special stuff||

[slender rover]

There are scary purple ones. They also spawn warlocks

[tiny mortar]

What is this said special stuff?

[foggy glacier]

same. I play solo and I'm constantly wearing brown leather pants the last few days.

[odd helm]

You'll have to find out~

[paper marsh]

I feel so bad breaking them because they're so rare

[tiny mortar]

Ah damn

[dapper token]

fair lmao

[slender rover]

I have died more in Valheim since the ashlands dropped than the entire rest of the game, and my world is at over 1300 days

[dapper token]

good lord

im usually pretty good at preparing and always triple check i have exactly what i need so i hope ill be fine

[tiny mortar]

My brother and i used to play on our world, ashlands dropped so he and his friend started a new world, then we all played on the new one, got to ashlands and now they wont help me get to the ashlands on my other world 😔

[paper marsh]

Ashlands is on par with Swamp difficulty imo (and for me swamp has been the hardest biome until now)

[tiny mortar]

TRUE

[dapper token]

oh? thats interesting

[tiny mortar]

Like the mountains and plains are so easy and fast progression, the swamp is just so fucking annoying

[paper marsh]

Thing is a biome is always a lot tougher the first time around. Like mistlands was tough getting used to at first

[tiny mortar]

Also i feel sorry for the dwarves in ashlands

Like they instantly die to the mobs 😭😭 bro go back to the mistlands yall its better there

[dapper token]

im a really big fan of the magic stuff in mistlands so im pretty excited to see what new magic is gonna be introduced in ashlands as well

[tiny mortar]

Theres some pretty decent stuff there, but not any new elemental stuff iirc

[paper marsh]

whatcha mean elemental stuff?

[leaden magnet]

I wish the Charred had a low chance of dropping Flametal or something, I have 400 charred bones and I've been throwing any I've gotten away for days now

[tiny mortar]

Like the fire staffs, ice and all those spell casting things

I might be wrong tho, havent beaten this update yet

[paper marsh]

There's new elemental staves (like, not entirely new elements, but new staves using them)

[dapper token]

ah i see

[tiny mortar]

Oh?

[paper marsh]

But yeah I really like the Ashlands gear, it feels really good. Although unfortunately a fair amount of it is more of a sidegrade to mistlands stuff bc mistlands stuff is OP

[paper marsh]

yea ||4 new staves. 1 unlocked super early, 3 unlocked super late ||

[dapper token]

oo thats exciting

[tiny mortar]

I kinda like the || new embla armor thing set ||

[tiny mortar]

|| is the trollstav early or late? ||

[paper marsh]

I haven't tried it, I hate mage armor when going mage. Speed all day (coming from a snail lol)

[dapper token]

this makes me really wanna make a big wizard tower lmao

[paper marsh]

Late

[tiny mortar]

NOOOOOOO

Thats one of the like two i really want 😔

|| the root one? ||

[paper marsh]

Also late

[tiny mortar]

Drat

Whats the early one

[paper marsh]

Fracturing staff. Sort of a disappointing staff but it can get some decent damage against the right enemies

[plush umbra]

Sorry for another question, but is there any way to reduce stamina consumption, or increase its gain rate? I tried to use shirt/helm from hildir, but they don't seem to affect it that much (?)

[tiny mortar]

Whats the fourth one

[paper marsh]

||Dundr (electricity damage, basically a magic shotgun)||

[plush umbra]

I don't mind stamina as a mechanic, but since i build/destroy a lot, it gets pretty annoying

[tiny mortar]

WHY ARE THE GOOD ONES SO LATEE E AAAAAAA

|| im guessing they all use the new gem things? ||

[dapper token]

same here, thats why i usually get 3 good stamina foods when building

[paper marsh]

Because there would be no challenge if you got all the good stuff early ;)

[odd helm]

Affirm

[plush umbra]

i usually run bread/eyescream/blood pudding, which should be the best ones (?)

[paper marsh]

Lingering stamina potion and rested for faster gain rate. There's a few new things reducing stamina consumption though. The mistlands and Ashlands cloaks, and the new Askvin armor

[dapper token]

depends on where you are in the game ig, i usually go with like salad, bloodpudding and onion soup

[plush umbra]

mistland cloaks? Isn't that the feather one?

[tiny mortar]

Is that a yes or?

[paper marsh]

Yes. Reduces Jump stamina consumption (this is a new thing, its stats were changed in Ashlands update)

[plush umbra]

finished mistlands, haven't started ashlands yet

[tiny mortar]

Yeah theres only one cloak from there,the feather one

[dapper token]

ah ok

[idle moon]

disappointed that all the Dverger in Ashlands were rogues

[finite lodge]

is rank 3 padded helmet and pants good enough for yagluth?

[paper marsh]

yes, all but the fracturing staff does

[tiny mortar]

Goddamnit

[paper marsh]

sounds pretty good. Although personally I like some fenris pants and maybe a chest for outrunning his attacks (that's up to preference though, tanky is super good too)

[tiny mortar]

|| only way to get them is from the fortresses right? ||

[finite lodge]

ive got the root harnesk chest on lol

[tiny tiger]

Honestly I just used frostner and fully upgraded fenris for yagluth

You don’t want that for him gives fire weakness unless you use the fire resistance

[tiny mortar]

Yeah i find the frostner to still hold up to ashlands standards

[paper marsh]

Root harnesk will be nice if any deathsquitoes show up but otherwise meh. Just make sure to drink fire resistance though!

[hidden gorge]

isn't it only the light armor that doesn't completely outclass the previous tier?

[tiny mortar]

Like a mountain weapon, still fuckin smashing everyone and everything in its way in the second to last biome

[paper marsh]

tbh, I think it's very rare that people face yag without fire resistance

[finite lodge]

ive got a bunch of fire mead

[tiny mortar]

Oh you guys are talking about fighting yagluth

[tiny tiger]

Frostner could be regarded as the first legendary weapon tbh

Frostner, himminafl, jotun bane, the fire sword, maybe the draugr fang?

[tiny mortar]

Not draugr fang

[finite lodge]

ive got a rank 4 frostner but only level 26 on clubs 😦 ive been using only swords all the time lol

[tiny mortar]

Spinesnap would be better imo for this

[vocal vale]

I feel like that depends on what you consider outclassing when you start getting up there in armor value with how diminishing it is

[hidden gorge]

frostner and ember staff -- the others aren't all that great honestly

[finite lodge]

omg there are like 15 tar slime enemies outside my portal i got clapped when i went in there to summon yuglith

[tiny tiger]

L I had some bother me too in my fight against him

Horrible considering the tarred effect I’m not sure if it overrides the fire resistance

[paper marsh]

Don't think it does

[finite lodge]

do they attack yuglith if i summon him

[paper marsh]

Dunking yag in water is fun for extra frost (or lightning) damage though

[paper marsh]

No. All enemies are friendly to bosses

[pastel latch]

Did they fix yagluth cheese? I tried it this playtrough for the first time and it failed miserably

[vapid hearth]

Quick question
Should I expect my longship to combust into flames as soon as it gets in vicinity of the ashlands?
I don't mean from any enemies that may start attacking my ship, I mean the ashlands' atmosphere itself
I want to go into this place without spoilers, so I'm just looking for a yes or no

[worldly karma]

Hey , i need a little bit of help. I want to play Valheim on a dedicated Server but every time i want to log in comes an error called: incompatible Version. Does anybody know how to fix that Problem?

[nocturne wolf]

Is one of them (game or server)in the public test version?

[mint sparrow]

did they do something with the spawns recently in the Ashlands? not coming across as many enemies today as before

[strange arrow]

the waters are dangerous, is the best i can say

[vapid hearth]

Oh right, forgot that one of the teasers showed off a bone serpent
And the Ashlands update made it so that the Ashlands can't border on any other biome, is that correct?

[strange arrow]

yes

[paper marsh]

Yes you should

[hidden gorge]

I want to go into this place without spoilers
your questions have demonstrated that this is a lie

[strange arrow]

mini spoilers

[worldly karma]

main game

[vapid hearth]

I was originally considering sailing to the Ashlands from a nearby biome on a raft, but I realize that perhaps whatever lurks in the ashlands waters will kill me and destroy my raft before I manage to get close enough to set foot on land

[odd helm]

Good call

||the water itself would've burned you||

[hidden gorge]

have you done your previous boss prep-work yet?

[odd helm]

#mods-discussion

[paper marsh]

yea gonna need at minimum a longship to go to Ashlands imo, although a lot of people would insist on using the new Queen drop to get there

[finite lodge]

wow burning mead is not enough i get wrecked by yuglith still

[azure yacht]

Rushing into ashlands is not worth the whole risk around it anyway

[paper marsh]

which attack is getting ya the most?

[azure yacht]

Don't get hit directly by the attacks

[paper marsh]

The meteors are usually the biggest challenge, which is why I recommend some fenris armor to make outrunning them easier. Maybe Eikthyr power too

[azure yacht]

The mead can protect against area dots.

But nothing can protect from direct hits, especially the slam

[tiny mortar]

Yagluth is one of the easier bosses imo, i just run straight up to him and hit him with frostner until i can't anymore lol

[finite lodge]

oh ive got bonemass power right now i can swap it

[tiny mortar]

And if you run out of stamina just drink a mead

[finite lodge]

is he weak to frostner?

[tiny mortar]

Very much

[azure yacht]

He's affected by frostner spirit

[tiny mortar]

Frost, spirit and blunt does more to him too i think?

[burnt glen]

I'm pretty sure he uses mostly elemental attacks.

[azure yacht]

But not weak.

In which case silver sword is better

[tiny mortar]

Not sure about frost and blunt

[paper marsh]

He's not weak to anything, but frostner or silver sword is pretty effective

[finite lodge]

oh okay i was using frost arrows and black metal sword with scaley shield

[paper marsh]

Black metal sword is very good too

[tiny mortar]

I just really love the frostner and im used to it so i went with it

[tiny mortar]

Not as good

Doesnt do spirit, just slash

[paper marsh]

Scaley shield no good imo. Better to just try to dodge or outrun his attacks

[finite lodge]

i should level out the arena too

[tiny mortar]

Honestly didnt even bother making it, since the mountain weapons live up after even like 3 tiers

[paper marsh]

not as good no, just good

I'm not a big fan of frostner and silver sword because they are very expensive and have relatively slow attack speeds

[burnt glen]

Could use either the silver sword or frostner. Frostner has better longevity if you're taking into consideration the future, it also depends on your comfortability with either weapon and the skill levels.

[tiny mortar]

They both slow down iirc so the slow attack speed isnt much of an issue

[burnt glen]

Silver sword does not have frost, it does not slow down anything.

[tiny mortar]

Ah, i wasnt sure

[azure yacht]

Silver swords have quick attack speed, and it's irrelevant that they're expensive considering you don't use silver for literally anything else except gear

[tiny mortar]

I couldve sworn it did

[shy marlin]

might be thinkin of the mistwalker

[paper marsh]

It is for me. Sometimes when switching from a spear or knife to a sword or mace the slower attack speed slows me down enough (sometimes also because I get greedy for 3 hit combos) to where the opponent ends up getting a hit in and ending my run

I've been warming up to swords though, jumping heavy attacks are pretty nice

[tiny mortar]

I know that one does frost for sure

[ember panther]

Only silver thing I really Iike is the battleaxe. Best thing silver makes is the chopping block

[finite lodge]

lol i keep going in and out of my portal

[azure yacht]

In that case it's not that they're slow, is that you use faster weapons...

[vapid hearth]

Define "previous boss prep-work"

[paper marsh]

which makes them relatively slower

still not as slow as a battleaxe or greatsword tho

[burnt glen]

We need a knife with frost.

[hidden gorge]

every boss you kill drops an item to help you in the next area. sometimes you can use the item directly, other times it unlocks a recipe you need to build stuff from

[paper marsh]

We need a knife with blood

[burnt glen]

We need a knife with lightning

[vapid hearth]

Oh, I haven't killed the Queen yet
I'm just making a voyage to kill Yagluth right now

[finite lodge]

i saw online i can bury yuglith in a hole lol

[wet lodge]

bro some guy I play with claims that the swamp crypts dont spawn if you dont kill the elder

[nocturne wolf]

They do, they’re always there

[wet lodge]

and tar is super rare before bonemass

[nocturne wolf]

Killing bosses doesn’t affect any of this

[shy marlin]

he's just wrong lol

[wet lodge]

I know, and I keep telling them. I have 300 hours and been to biomes ahead of time plenty

[burnt glen]

if you bet against him, it's ez money

[tiny mortar]

They very much do spawn

[finite lodge]

i got 1shot by a deathsquito before i even summoned elder for the first time

[vapid hearth]

I'm probably gonna need to bring some antivenom on my way to Yagluth in case there's a tar pit near his arena

[paper marsh]

I like when my friend doesn't know what's going on. Like preparing the area outside of Queens lair to have a good area to fight her on when she bursts out

[nocturne wolf]

In our first playthrough my friend tamed a lox before we killed the elder

[hidden gorge]

your concerns about the ashlands might be a bit premature, lol

[tiny mortar]

No

The Ashlands are a real deal

Its only good if you overprepare

[vapid hearth]

Oh, I want to be prepared because I'm still traumatized from exploring the Mistlands fresh after beating Yagluth. Did not expect so much verticality to give the seekers a massive advantage over me (and for my equipment to pale against their attacks)

[hidden gorge]

he's two bosses before he can even start preparing

[finite lodge]

i wish you could dig tunnels in this game

lol

[vapid hearth]

Ohhh, I get it! The queen's dropped item must be some sort of fire-roof effect that should protect my boat from the ashlands combusting my ship!
I'd assume fire resistance wines will be what protect me

I've yet to beat the Queen ever
I've only ever beaten Yagluth

[finite lodge]

yagluth is hard

[nocturne wolf]

The bosses only get harder after Moder

[paper marsh]

hardest boss in the game imo, although it's up to playstyle

Moder is my favorite boss though

She's also the first boss that actually has a scary amount of damage

[steel copper]

Queen is way hard than Yag or Moder imo

Queen is the only boss I've not defeat solo

[paper marsh]

Queen is tough ||in a blind arena in melee, but if you go at her with a bunch of wisp torches and magic she's super easy||

[vapid hearth]

Hmmm, maybe I should create a blackmetal shield for tackling Yagluth
I'm still using this silver shield

[finite lodge]

atleast the yagluth encounter isnt 30 minutes like moder was for me

[nocturne wolf]

For me, Yagluth takes much longer to kill than Moder

[wet lodge]

melee moder fight be like

[paper marsh]

Moder goes down super quick to fang spear or flesh rippers

[nocturne wolf]

But my friends were dying a lot more to yagluth so maybe that explains it

[paper marsh]

Or high bow skill with obsidian arrows

[nocturne wolf]

I use a huntsman bow and fang spear, usually

[paper marsh]

huntsman bow best bow

[vapid hearth]

Fang spear and a giant middle finger at Moder makes short work of her

[brazen geode]

Does anyone have a minute or two to show me how to insert a mod

[shy marlin]

Better to ask in #mods-discussion

[brazen geode]

ty

[burnt glen]

It's a little sad because it's such a fun fight with melee but gets boring with magic.

[pastel latch]

How much extra health do bosses get if you fight them with 2 players instead of 1?

[nocturne wolf]

The only time I died to a boss was my second playthrough when I fought the queen with magic for the first time

[pastel latch]

I die always at least once to yagluth due to my fire potion running out for merely a second or two >_>

[nocturne wolf]

I think I used blood magic a bit too much, should I have been using the fireball staff more instead of the dead raiser?

[paper marsh]

agreed. I have mixed feelings on the Ashlands boss melee fight though

[paper marsh]

30 or 40%

[pastel latch]

I did fader as melee, I almost never was able to get a hit on the guy

[pastel latch]

does damage also increase?

[paper marsh]

yea but only 5%

[ornate minnow]

Hello everybody

[paper marsh]

I've killed him a few times in melee but I'm really not a fan of the fights where bosses just nuke an area with lingering damage (cough cough swamp/plains/ashlands bosses)

[pastel latch]

I noticed while fighting fader that the fire damage usually is consistent but I had a few times during the fight where the fire DOT SKYROCKETED out of seemingly nowhere

I died once to it and almost a few times more

[nocturne wolf]

It’s not so bad for Bonemass and Yagluth because you can stay in the aoe for a while but Fader’s is too strong

[pastel latch]

in hardmode yagluth's dot was too much to tank imo

but in normal yeah its fine for a short bit

[shy marlin]

Yag/Bonemass is understandable, but Ashlands boss nuking the ground he stands on is completely avoidable

[paper marsh]

heyo!

[paper marsh]

yea I usually do tank it but I just don't like boss design taking that route

Other than being a glitchy bih, I find Moders overall design very nice

[finite lodge]

are the flat side of the walls supposed to go on the inside?

[nocturne wolf]

I always have the flat sides on the outside

[finite lodge]

same

[paper marsh]

She doesn't lock you to using a specific weapon, doesn't litter an area with lingering AoE so you can't get to her, she's before magic so we don't have the issue of magic cheese, and although her attacks are very dodgeable they also have high damage which makes the fight exciting

[nocturne wolf]

Hopefully we see something like this for the deep north

[paper marsh]

oh and she doesn't contribute to the overly hyped frostner and silver sword / mace and sword meta in general

[finite lodge]

i wish we could run around on the big tree in the sky and potentially fall off it

[ember panther]

The walls are intended go go both ways for an extra thick wall for sound dampening and insulation

[finite lodge]

skydiving in gta online is pretty fun i wish every game did it

[nocturne wolf]

Horizontal skydiving (catapult + feather cape) is so much better

[paper marsh]

fact, so fun

[ember panther]

Wait does that work??

[azure yacht]

Why wouldn't it?

[paper marsh]

works much better than you'd expect

[merry pebble]

from decently sized mountain you get flung like 10th of a map last time i tested 😄 but if you find really tall one you will get further ofc
(maybe it was even on the small side, i dont remember clearly atm 🤔 )

[paper marsh]

I'm planning on just using catapults to get to and from Ashlands most the time. Portals are outdated

And you can bring metal on catapults as well, so no loss from not using a portal

[wet lodge]

what about fall damage tho

[merry pebble]

you have to have a feather cape for it to work like that, so no issue with it 🙂

[wet lodge]

oh right that exists

havent played in half a year, and only shortly been to mistlands

once I got good at beating 2 star warriors hitless I got a bit bored :p

[maiden burrow]

hi guys . ı want start play this game. anyone want play ?

[nocturne wolf]

#1024264966712340510

[slender rover]

Y'know the more I trek around the Ashlands the more I think the lack of (1) armor with lava resistance and (2) lack of damage to charred by lava are design missteps

In a biome where the very landscape is severely dangerous, it seems very weird not to be able to use the environment against enemies

[nocturne wolf]

Flametal armor has heat resistance which increases delay before lava and boiling water starts damage

[harsh snow]

I've lost count of how many Fuling Berserkers I've unalived in the span of 3 days and got no trophies. I know they have a low drop rate but holy shit

[slender rover]

Yeah but not by very much

[azure yacht]

supposedly

[nocturne wolf]

What do you mean?

[azure yacht]

That that assumed lava resistance seems so very small that it's pretty much non-existant

[harsh snow]

So basically the text "Heat resistance" is cosmetic

[azure yacht]

Charred being damaged by lava would've been a much bigger design flaw considering they would keep killing themselves by walking into lava

Also, it's pretty obvious that the enemies from a biome will be naturally resistant to said biome.

And you can use the enemies themselves against them instead of the biome

[tulip wigeon]

Hello everyone.
Im searching for some pvp player. i builded up 5 pvp areas with different gameplay. there is a battle royal, king of kings 1v1 with 8 player, ship fight all v all and others. next fight is friday 07.06. msg me if you interested. 🙂

[slender rover]

Eh disagree the spawn rate is high enough and pathing could have addressed some of that

[azure yacht]

There are like five enemies that deal friendly damage

[nocturne wolf]

All ashlands enemies except charred and voltures have it on some or all attacks

[azure yacht]

You really have a lot of estimation to this game's pathfinding LOL

subtly points at the clearly-not-lava-immune dvergr killing themselves by entering into the lava lakes

[nocturne wolf]

#valheim-public-test message

[azure yacht]

So it's six, actually more than half of the whole population (not counting the boss)

[vocal vale]

Does anyone actually die ? With how bad PvP is how are these game modes even ending?

[slender rover]

All the other biomes allow the player to use significant parts of the biome against enemies to gain physical advantage. Ashlands is the only one that does not. Every enemy has a counter to height except charred warriors, and the player is vulnerable to lava and fire while the enemies are not. Like, I know the biome is supposed to be hard but it feels like a major departure from the entire rest of the game

[vocal rivet]

I'm good, thanks. If I wanted PVP, I'd play a game with PVP.

[vocal vale]

Wait is he advertising for a fight that’s over a month away?

[livid widget]

Is there a mod to shut the wolves up?

[vocal vale]

5/31 advertising fights on 7/6 😂

[vocal vale]

I wonder if you delete their audio file if the game still plays without crashing

[livid widget]

Don't necessarily want to do that for all wolves, just the tame ones.

[vocal vale]

There should be a mute deer option in the settings frfr

[vocal rivet]

Oh wow, didn't even spot that. Valheim is NOT the game for eSports.

[ebon raven]

every biome has a theme, meadows you are a gatherer, dark forest you become a hunter, swamp is a battle of attrition, mountain is about battling the weather, plains you become a raider, mistlands has you help a race under siege and ashlands you become the siege

[mossy river]

It's specifically wolf cubs that are doing the howling, so you'll want to look for a mod that addresses that. I think the game was already updated to make adult tame wolves not howl.

[azure yacht]

Which is a good thing...

Instead of using the biome against them, you use the enemies themselves against them.

They went for a more unique route and certainly worked better. Ashlands mobs not being immune to lava would 100% break the whole biome because 1) You would have a lot of problem trying to get the drops, 2) In a biome that is so combat-oriented you would have very little fighting as the enemies would keep killing themselves and 3) Having friendly fire and the biome as a hazard would just make combat very irrelevant in a biome that is, again, very combat-oriented

[merry pebble]

you can post this in #1024264966712340510 😄 if people want to play with someone they usually look there

[livid widget]

Ok thanks. We'll slaughter all the cubs.

[nocturne wolf]

It could be day/month, which is used in the uk

[tulip wigeon]

Thanks

[azure yacht]

Mods.

Literally the only way it can work. PvP was clearly not designed around the whole game.

It should remain that way, imagine devs doing something like nerfing atgeirs because the clear minority of the player base complains about it being too op in PvP

[ebon raven]

imagine trying to fight someone with gear from a biome or two ahead

[vocal vale]

The damage and armor just isn’t made for PvP

[vocal vale]

Landing a hit is the hardest part when most can be dodged with walking

[ebon raven]

until you get shot by some random poison arrows from a mile away while minding your own business

[mossy river]

I wonder if you would deliberately want a low jump skill for PVP? Valheim is primitive in the way that you can't control your jump height.

[regal spoke]

Drauger archers ftw amir!?

[vapid hearth]

I'll never get over how surprisingly fast loxes are

[livid widget]

Trying to think of other games where you can control your jump height and coming up with nothing. Some have double jumping, but most are pretty static

[ebon raven]

until you try riding one with low skill

[regal spoke]

Destiny Hunter. But it's still pretty static

[vapid hearth]

Yyyyep
Otherwise they have no issues keeping up with you as you try to run away

[slender rover]

You folks seem to have a very optimistic view of the Ashlands friendly fire. It might have more impact if charred had FF on each other, but my experience at least is I just end up with a horde of charred chasing me around and then something showstopping will show up and do very little to them and a world of hurt to me.

Coupled with the dire effects of skill drain on combat effectiveness, and this is more of a linear slog that's out of step with the rest of the game.

[mossy river]

Releasing space when you want vertical movement to end is the convention I'm thinking of. Once you get high skill and the feather cape, it becomes annoying that every jump is trying to hurdle a fort wall, when really you're just trying to get into a stone portal.

[ebon raven]

seems alot of people seem to be running into multiple groups of mobs at once in the ashlands, either you are running away and pulling aggro or useing so much space while fighting you are hitting multiple mobs

[vapid hearth]

What's an effective way of getting loxes to reproduce?
In my experinece, no matter how many cloudberries I gave them, they only reproduced twice max

[ebon raven]

you remove the young from the breeding pair

[vocal vale]

Lots of them hve hold longer to go higher which I swore valheim did as well

[regal spoke]

Yea isolated couples.

[ebon raven]

tamed animals will only reproduce if some checks are made
Random roll of 33% succeeds.
The creature is not hungry.
The creature is not alerted (no red exclamation mark).
Total number of creatures and offspring is less than the limit (including the creature itself).
Suitable partner exists nearby (tamed, not hungry, not pregnant).
The area is active (any player within ~64 meters, exact distance depends on the underlying zone system).

[regal spoke]

To the vets: is Ashland's a jump in difficulty like Swamp is

[vapid hearth]

Oh, I see
I leave the baby with the breeding pair so they can protect it

[ebon raven]

thats why they arent making more

[slender rover]

2X worse in my view/experience.

I died very little in the swamp. I did a lot in Ashlands

[mossy river]

I'm just a normal human and I've completed Ashlands multiple times now. 🤷

Including on a fresh character with low skills

[regal spoke]

I see tyvm. I haven't been back in world in months. But have played since year one

[vocal rivet]

Pretty similar I'd say.

[slender rover]

It's not that it's impossible, it's just a slow slog and exploration has been cut for increased combat between locations

[regal spoke]

Hey Derek good to see you. Thanks for the insight

[azure yacht]

The enemies that deal friendly fire also deal a lot of FF. The entire game is based around positioning yourself in order to fight more efficiently, and this isn't any different.

Even lava blobs can be helpful in situations where many enemies are densely grouped together, despite the fire resistances.

In the end, you usually end up finishing off what's left

[vapid hearth]

It really feels like lox are hypersensitive to stealth, as if they already know where I am and chase me even when they haven't found me

Can I at least leave one lox with the baby lox or does the baby have to be completely by itself?

[regal spoke]

I like this incentive for using mobs and environment to ones advantage. I'm looking forward to this

[azure yacht]

I hope they extend it to DN

[ebon raven]

lox have a breeding limit of 4 lox within 20m of each other so keeping them near the parents will making breeding very slow

[azure yacht]

Even more, I hope there are enemies that deal FF and the biome itself could be used as a weapon

[regal spoke]

The game forces us to get creative and gud lol

[ebon raven]

it doesnt need protection just dig a big hole wiht a lox calf sized channel to another hole when a baby lox is made use the harpoon to drag it into the second hole 20m away

[regal spoke]

You know. By the time I get to raise lox I have a horde of stone. I tend to burn it on walls and land bridges lol

[vapid hearth]

Oh god a two-star fuling
I don't think my silver shield can parry its attacks

[ember panther]

Considering how much "frost resist" we have already I wonder if they will introduce a new "cold" mechanic exclusive to deep north

[ebon raven]

it can

[ember panther]

Fighting the biome itself like we did in the swamps

[regal spoke]

Dodge roll and strike baiting are your friend

[fresh jasper]

Okay but we do have official info about Deep North which iirc the devs confirmed

There will be snow.

[vocal rivet]

I don't think that's confirmed at all.

[dapper token]

are you sure about that??? seems kind of fake to me

[vocal rivet]

I'd imagine so, given how we moved from fire resistance to heat resistance with Ashlands.

[slender rover]

I know you keep saying this, but I am saying in my experience I am not encountering it. The Morgen and Valkyries that like to show up at random aren't really clearing the charred because often they appear from nowhere and there is limited option to kite and position before they deal that massive damage directly to the player.

Like I said, just my experience, but I am not finding this "use the enemies against each other" mechanic nearly as useful as it has been hyped. Maybe it's just I have a bad chunk of terrain I am working through, but it's been more just tedious incremental movement than a real fun tactical experience.

[ember panther]

WOAH LEAK ALERT ⚠️ MODS?? 🚨

[vocal rivet]

So.. your experience is more valid than his?

[slender rover]

Where did I say that?

[mossy river]

Plot twist, the deep north snow is yellow. All of it.

[fresh jasper]

The forbidden lemon flavored snow

[nocturne wolf]

How would you know the flavour?

[stuck crypt]

Anyone else ever died to a pufferfish that jumped into your boat mid ocean?

[fresh jasper]

Shh

[ebon raven]

https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1202267437647527977 this is my basic lox setup

[nocturne wolf]

I’ve had one jump in but just poisoned me and didn’t kill me

[vapid hearth]

Huh, turns out it indeed might, at least with my plains-tier food and going HHS, since parrying a one star fuling's attack was nowhere close to staggering me

[fresh jasper]

Almost, got down to 2hp once

[slender rover]

Pufferfish are the ocean equivalent of trees: there to keep you humble and not get overconfident

[stuck crypt]

I was on a raft, going back to the swamp after losing all my gear halfway across the map. Took me like an hour or more of rafting to get there naked. Then a pufferfish got me 😦

[drowsy magnet]

raft of shame

[ebon raven]

valheim pro advice never have only 1 boat

[wet lodge]

y'all dont base near wherever you go?

[fresh jasper]

Speaking of trees I lost one of my hardcore worlds to a falling tree 🥲

[wet lodge]

I build bases all the time

can spend several hours just making a small outpost with a bed and comfort 8 lol

[heavy bobcat]

my base is literally in the ocean

[ebon raven]

i really want a boat that we can build on

[slender rover]

Step 1: land on shore
Step 2: establish portal (or bed with surrounding fortifications if no portal mode)
Step 3: keep some backup gear nearby 🙂