valheim-chat

[fallen zephyr]

Probably 80% of my playtime is pissing about building fun new bases and exploring areas.

[dreamy kiln]

i never changed any world settings/modifier so far... also never used any mods...

[fair cairn]

i play on 1.5 atm, seems like it gives plenty of resources

[dreamy kiln]

but i think they are nice

[charred otter]

So like a full chest? after raiding the third crypt I'd prob have like 2 chests so I am good

[dreamy kiln]

back at the days when i was heavy building id love to have had those options 😄

[charred otter]

Farming without mods is pain, I also like having more slots to hotkey to and armor slots

[pliant hatch]

Depends at the kind of chest.

A stack of ores / ingots is 30.
The standard chest you can build almost from the start contains 8 slots; which makes 240 iron in total.

[fair cairn]

yea but i already had like 4 or so playthroughs(never finished) so idd figures idd play with x1.5 to hopefully not end up quitting before

[dreamy kiln]

wise decision

[charred otter]

Darugr elite + 2 star draugr, yay

[dreamy kiln]

if it gets rough, it piles 😄

[charred otter]

The normal one with 10 slots

Wait it's 8 not 10? for the 10 wood one

[pliant hatch]

Normal one has 10 slots indeed.
Reinforced one got 24 slots.

Guess it's a mod messing up your game again (from our point of view, that is)

[charred otter]

It might've been 8 and I just missremember

Just checked a crypt chest and ye it's 8 so I probably missremember

So almost 480 iron rather than 600

[pliant hatch]

It's still enough for all the weapons and armor including upgrades.

But if you plan to use it for construction as well - especially the Iron wood beams - it may not be enough.

[charred otter]

Oh ffs a 2star archer aswell

[worldly crypt]

Anybody wanna play?
im 14yo and i speak eng. and pl.
i didnt play for some time so dont expect me to know much]

[dreamy kiln]

better ask in the #1024264966712340510

[worldly crypt]

k

[pliant hatch]

btw, iron reinforced chest - 2nd possible one to build - is 24 slots, not 10.

[dreamy kiln]

more success and proper channel 🙂

[charred otter]

Which one is more space efficient btw?

Rn I have 1 of the irons for all the stuff I sometimes need (cultivator, hoe, light/heavy armor of my tier, harpoon, etc)

And then a wall of the small ones stacked super close

[pliant hatch]

I think the black-metal chest is most efficient as it has 32 slots.
But the looks are what some players put off using them.

[fallen zephyr]

They're super ugly. I use reinforced chests. (Edit: actual world space is not limited enough to make me use the more efficient, ugly chest.)

[charred otter]

I heard they r green right

[pliant hatch]

aye

[charred otter]

No shot I am using green in my base (it's my hated color)

R there any blue-glint chests

[fair cairn]

The only chests are the wood chest
Reinforced iron chest
And blackiron chest

[exotic cradle]

Personal chest ^^

[fair cairn]

Oh shit that too with its.... 6 slots?

[exotic cradle]

also black metal not iron ^-^

[dreamy kiln]

samaramon rocks the place 😄

[exotic cradle]

[fair cairn]

And the treasure chest now that im think about it

[charred otter]

Was about to ask isn't there some chest that requires rubies

[exotic cradle]

That's a decoration, you can't actually put anything in it

[fair cairn]

You cant?!

[exotic cradle]

If that's the case you could count ||Hildir's chests||

[charred otter]

Ah sadge, would be nice having it as a re-skin

[loud valve]

Carts are basically a big chest too

[exotic cradle]

So are graves!

[dense steppe]

[loud valve]

You can use ships for sea chests!

[dense steppe]

you can dig a hole and throw everything there

[loud valve]

Things can despawn though

[ornate sentinel]

Throw all of your torches in the hole!

[loud valve]

I also use chests in mines and stuff

[exotic cradle]

boar head and pukeberries in every chest in the crypts for sure

[dreamy kiln]

not if a workbench is in range

[loud valve]

Can't be building workbenches everywhere! That's for workspaces only!

[dreamy kiln]

valheim had a huge littering problem before the obliterator thingy came 😄

[loud valve]

I pollute the oceans

[dreamy kiln]

i did the same, fill the boat, drive out, DUMP 😄

[loud valve]

Can't be bothered running to the obliterator everytime

[dreamy kiln]

fully it goes over 100 coal so i just fill it first

[dense steppe]

Due to the poor ecology of the oceans, there are fewer sea snakes

[dreamy kiln]

neat 😄

[dense steppe]

put him in a hole

[pliant hatch]

Does that thing damage black marble?

[fallen zephyr]

Good question.

[pliant hatch]

I know eitr doesn't, and it looks like that's the same kind of damage we get when using the obliterator.
So in theory when putting the obliterator in a Black Marble room, the walls shouldn't be damaged.

[merry pebble]

black marbe is immune to lightning

[floral pendant]

why does my eitr-weaver doesnt show set bonus ?

[uncut bough]

do crops have different grow time in each plant?

i swear some of the jotun puff that i planted just seconds later, actually ripen earlier than those i planted first

[pliant hatch]

There's a bit of variation in it, yes. But all should be grown up in the same time frame

[uncut bough]

i am just so confused, i am losing my mind seeing some jotun puff not ripen yet

[timid moon]

whats the best bronze weapon

[vocal rivet]

The one you like using.

[timid moon]

..

[shy marlin]

Also depends on the situation

[pliant hatch]

to fight the Elder, Axe or sword.
But maces are great against skelletons.

[timid moon]

to go iron hunting

[floral pendant]

mace

[pliant hatch]

Axe for Draugr and leeches.
Mace for Skelletons and Oozers / Blobs.

Eventually Iron mace to fight the Swamp boss.

[shy marlin]

Sword is just better than axes though

It has cleave and hits faster

[timid moon]

i made an atgeir but its not what i thought it was ;w;

[pliant hatch]

Sword can be better, but it means you will need to use another hotkey for a weapon slot.
Axe has the same damage type and is a tool as well, saving one slot.

[shy marlin]

Inventory analysis is worthless when you realize a pocket portal allows you to have infinite space

[timid moon]

pocket portal?

[grizzled wing]

some would argue you dont need to bring an axe with you unless youre planning on getting wood

[fallen zephyr]

I played the game for a long time under the same assumption. I've come to realise that swords are legit better.

[shy marlin]

Bringing portal mats with ya and leaving an unconnected portal at home, so once ur done adventuring you just place the portal down and you’re home

[pliant hatch]

You're saying that spending 4 slots for portal items is better as wasting one slot for an extra weapon?

You mean you drop a workbench and a portal when you have to fight a monster attacking you and is vunerable to a different kind of damage?

I prefer to use those 4 slots for getting loot and bring one less weapon instead; thus saving me 5 inventory slots.

[shy marlin]

What ghost are you afraid of? I typically bring 6 weapons on me with 3 foods + weight belt + bolts and arrows with portal mats and never run into inventory problems.

[floral pendant]

does anybody knows why i cant see the eitr regen bonus texts on my eitr parts ?

[grizzled wing]

i dont think that was his reasoning. the extra inventory slots are nice, but once theyre filled, you cant get new stuff. portal is a short term sacrifice for longer term profit

[shy marlin]

The ultimate goal is to not die, and sacrificing potential survivability for one inventory slot is not worth it

[loud valve]

What I usually do is build the unnamed portal before I start exploring a new place

[fallen zephyr]

What are you talking about? Spend four slots on boat mats, three slots on portal mats and enough wood for a workbench whenever you go somewhere new. They pay for themselves multiple times over.

[pliant hatch]

I'm simply bringing a portal in a ship, sail to a spot I want to dock multiple times, build a small outpost with a portal there and explore the area from that spot on.
Drop some chests there to stack loot and continue.

[grizzled wing]

thats fine too. i do both

[loud valve]

That is pretty much what he is saying. I don't bother building an outpost though

I literally just have a portal and a bunch of chests on the open field

[pliant hatch]

I'm currently in the Swamp, having 11 free slots available in my inventory.
Hence why I won't spend 4 slots to build a portal and workbench when I need one, as those slots fill up pretty fast.

However when working from a "forward base" or 'outpost', I can drop items off in a chest until they're a full stack and portal or ship them back home later.

So while it may take a bit longer to get them at the outpost and home, I prefer to do that over using 4 more slots to build something I will break and re-use somewhere else later.

[charred otter]

Is there an easier way to transfer a ton of metal other than going back and forth a bunch of times, can't do carts cuz they suck, especially in swamp terrain

[grizzled wing]

this discussion is part of the wider problem of portals and their balance

[loud valve]

I mean, you don't need to limit yourself. I just make an extra set of portals to places I'll travel back and forth from a lot

[grizzled wing]

cart to shore and longship it back. or go into the world modifiers and turn on portal all items

or physically put the cart in a karve

[pliant hatch]

Can log out to another world while overloaded, drop them in a chest there, log back in, portal to your home base, and do the relogging a few times to get them transported. This is known as "world-hopping".

Can adjust the settings for portals to allow portalling metals.
Or you can build a longship, store it at that base and transport all in one go.

[charred otter]

That's just the same as enabling portal tho, I have a longship the distance isn't that long and it's across land

[loud valve]

Or you can be like me and spend an unnecessary amount of time to build an elevated highway road to transfer it by cart

[grizzled wing]

build a smelting/forge area where you're getting the metal from

[charred otter]

I'll post a screenshot in #screenshots

[pliant hatch]

Believe it or not, but for some players, using the modifiers is out of the question, but world hopping is a valid strategy.

[charred otter]

No need, my base is already close enough

[loud valve]

The extra steps makes them feel more accomplished

[grizzled wing]

just cart it ig. or eithyr power and run it back and forth

[charred otter]

In both cases that's a way to "bypass" the intended way, I might enable portal metals just to save me the 20 trips that just waste time

[fair cairn]

i did world hopping but that was for a trader XD couldnt find a trader on my world and started worl hopping for a trader

[charred otter]

Rn I am just doing like 20 trips, cart sucks in swamp (and in general), was hoping for some easier solution

[nocturne wolf]

In swamp I eat stamina food and walk encumbered to bring iron back to the boat

[light moat]

Eikthyr power goes hard 💪

[loud valve]

There are no easy solutions here, other than enabling portals. There are just unnecessarily complex and time-consuming options.

[grizzled wing]

make a path with the hoe and clear out rocks n trees etc. idc if you wanna turn on portal metals, but once you do it, you nwont want to turn it back off

[charred otter]

I don't want to go encumbered, too risky with mobs

[fair cairn]

idd usually put one crypt of iron in a cart, get the cart to the boat, repeat

[nocturne wolf]

Just drop your iron before you fight

[pliant hatch]

Another option is to get a full inventory, walk until your stamina runs out, drop what you got too much, wait for stamina to replenish to maximum, pick the dropped items up and walk until stamina runs out.
Repeat after that.

[loud valve]

Use trees to make a treehouse road back

[light moat]

Why not just make a few trips on foot?

[charred otter]

Ye that's encumbered strat, too scared of the mbos tho

[charred otter]

Well it's not "a few" it's like 3 chest worth of iron, which means 48 trips

[fair cairn]

putting one crypt of iron or i guess 2 on a cart and then getting that to the longship works a lot better

[light moat]

What’s kind of chests?

[loud valve]

Your options are really encumbered, build a route for a cart or make multiple trips

[nocturne wolf]

There's nothing to be scared of. Dropping your iron doesn't take long. Skeletons aren't much of a threat and draugr are easy enough to spot before they aggro

[loud valve]

You can also leave dead bodies as chests for when you go encumbered

[light moat]

48 trips = 48 stacks of iron roughly?

[timid moon]

what about the belt

[charred otter]

Ye 48 stacks

[timid moon]

mejdingiggord

megedmingord

[charred otter]

I have that

[grizzled wing]

48x30 is a ridiculous amount of iron

[light moat]

So that’s about 1400 iron, no easy way to transport that 😅

[charred otter]

Fair

[merry pebble]

Megingjord

[timid moon]

medingdingord

[pliant hatch]

Not even able to do that in one boat trip.
Will take 3 longboat trips to transport that

[loud valve]

That's really 2 encumbered trips

[grizzled wing]

how'd you get 1400 iron?

[light moat]

Honestly, it’ll take time, but I’d probably just run it back and forth. Going to take forever, but you’ll have an absurd amount of iron.

[pliant hatch]

MOst likely with multipliers from the modifiers

[nova socket]

does upgrading staff of protection do anything?

[charred otter]

I think I will just enable portals for that transfer and then turn it back off, I'd only use it if I see I need like a crazy amount of trips to get everything

[light moat]

What are you trying to do with the iron? Maybe make your crafting station where the iron is and craft/upgrade what you need.

[nocturne wolf]

You don't need to move all of it. You have more than enough

[charred otter]

4 crypts with 2x resources

[timid moon]

if i have a bunch of metal to transport i find its easier to take a smelter and forge to the location and sort ur stuff out while ur there

1 trip compared to a heck lot? hell yeah

[grizzled wing]

duration i think, dont qoute me

[pliant hatch]

You're very lucky then.
I got 332 iron from 5 crypts with normal settings

[nocturne wolf]

700 (ignoring multipliers) from 4 crypts is incredibly lucky

[grizzled wing]

thats absurd even with modifiers

homie got the secret 6x

[light moat]

Thought resource rate didn’t affect chest loot? Am I wrong?

[charred otter]

My base is "close" enough for it to not be worth it to build a setup there

[charred otter]

It does effect the iron scraps tho

[nocturne wolf]

I'd be very surprised if it did

[charred otter]

I might did my math wrong

But it's at least 32 I'd say

From 2 of those crypts I got almost a chest and then I got like 3 stacks from the other 2

[light moat]

Three wooden chests full of iron, that’d be 36 stacks yeah?

[charred otter]

48 stacks

Or wait

[grizzled wing]

wooden chests are 10 slots

[charred otter]

8 * 3 = 24 so only 24 stacks, whoops lol

[light moat]

Ah, 24 stacks isn’t that bad on foot!

[charred otter]

That's still 24 trips

Each taking like 5-ish minutes, that's 2 hours of just going between

[light moat]

But if it’s too much, just turn on the portal modifier 🙂

[nocturne wolf]

Can you use a boat?

[charred otter]

Ye I think I'll do that temporarily

[light moat]

Yep, I’ve done some crazy time just walking iron around specifically lol

[pliant hatch]

You should be able to carry at least 2 stacks in your inventory, 2.5 may be possible even.

[light moat]

Hmm I think iron is too heavy for that

[nocturne wolf]

Not if you walk encumbered

[charred otter]

I am able to carry 1 stack + 3

[nocturne wolf]

Have you emptied out the stuff you don't need?

[charred otter]

Without encumbered

[charred otter]

Yea, kept armor/food/weapons/bow/shield and some arrows

[light moat]

Iron is 12 weight, so a stack is 360. Edit: this is incorrect

[charred otter]

I can get to 120 weight

[grizzled wing]

iron weighs 10 each, max anyone can carry is 30 without megingjord and 44 with

[grizzled wing]

thats smelted

[merry pebble]

without all other gear and without being overencumbered you can carry max 45 iron scraps

[pliant hatch]

Scrap iron weighs 10.

And I stand corrected, I'm able to carry one stack and 3 as well

[light moat]

Ahh whoops! Thanks!

[nocturne wolf]

If it's over 100 with just what you need there's definitely more stuff you can throw out

Food can be heavy, you don't need to carry full stacks of it right now

[pliant hatch]

So are weapons and / or armor.
One of the reasons why I prefer light armor over the heavy ones.

[nocturne wolf]

I prefer troll armor to bronze because there's nothing else to use troll hide for and I get faster movespeed.
I would probably use fenris armor instead of silver but I can never find enough fenris hair

[azure yacht]

With all my hotbar full of gear, my armor set and two utilities, I reach almost 60.

You have inventory management issues if you reach +90 with what you should need and are 100% carrying stuff you actually don't need

[merry pebble]

i have always at least 90 weight at me 😄 and yes i always carry stuff i dont "need" but would be annoying (at least to me) to go for it everytime i need it 😄

[grizzled wing]

pocket portal so i can tp back to base every 25 minutes to eat so i have more space

[charred otter]

Well 30g is not that much, can carry less food and switch to light armor or smthing

120 is my "light" setup (usually I carry around 150 if I include utilities like axe, pick, good amount of food, etc)

[grizzled wing]

ive never been short on food and i never take more than 6 each, you dont need full stacks of anything

[charred otter]

I shouldn't tell u that I try to always stock 20 of each food item which takes 5 slots

[pliant hatch]

I'm currently running with:

• Iron mace;
• Banded shield;
• Huntsman bow;
• Iron axe;
• Iron Pickaxe;
• Health potions;
• Stamina potions;
• Poison Resistance Mead;
• 3 stacks of food (2HP, 1St)
• 3 pieces of Root Armor;
• Megingjord
• Dverger Circlet
• 95 Flint arrows;
• 100 fire arrows;
• Swamp key;
• Hammer.

Total weight: 112 kg.

Oh and the troll cape.

[foggy glacier]

If I’m doing hardcore exploring or if I’m sailing then I’ll carry extra food. Otherwise I’m just carrying a portal

[charred otter]

Using buckler and have 2 stacks of fire arrows rather than 1 flint 1 fire and don't have dverger circlet

[grizzled wing]

are you taking recommendations for "slimming down"?

[charred otter]

I do have 2 iron pieces + 1 iron piece and I probably have more food

[pliant hatch]

I'm always willing to hear advise for improvements.
And if you going to tell me to drop the hammer, I know I should've done that. 😄

[charred otter]

I also carry an hammer so I can gather some wood and build stuff

[light moat]

Pretty similar to what I carry, except I only carry one stack of arrows. Never go anywhere without my hammer lol

[pliant hatch]

The only reason why I carry flint and fire arrows is because I find it a waste of arrows to use fire arrows to fight leeches and draugr.
The fire arrows are for dealing with trolls, greydwarves and abominations.

[charred otter]

Fire arrows r extremely cheap tho? I have a chest+ of resin

[light moat]

Oh, and I don’t carry a circlet.

[pliant hatch]

So are flint arrows.
But the pierce damage of fire arrows is less. And the fire doesn't stack when fighting creatures which are under water.

[charred otter]

Same, it's really nice but I can't give up 150 weight for it

[light moat]

It’s a head slot item, so it can be used with Meginjord 🙂

[charred otter]

Do the geysers need to be loaded to continue counting for the spawn, or can I go to my base for a few mins come back and have the mspawn?

[pliant hatch]

You can go back to your base and they'll spawn

[charred otter]

Oh right, still wouldn't give up a helm slot for it

[light moat]

Me neither, nor the extra slot in general. Neat item though.

[pliant hatch]

It's a useful thing when exploring sunken crypts and burial chambers.
The alternative would be to carry a torch with you at all times.

[light moat]

Yeah, it’s handy for sure, but I find that just going a little slower and looking carefully gets the job done.

[pliant hatch]

That's how I move in the mistlands. 😄

But with this character being at Swamp level, no need for that........ yet.

[uncut bough]

I have been staying in the dvergr tower for a while, where is gjall raid

Honestly i don’t long for them, but still otherwise i cant test how effective is 6 ballista just programmed to fight gjall

[valid stirrup]

hehe just spawn a few in

[grizzled wing]

health and stamina potions are there to get you out of a bad spot, so you should only take as many as you think times you'll encounter trouble. all those arrows are overkill, 100 weigh 10kg

hammer is fine, it only weighs 2 and you can build campires on the fly if you get the wet effect from a bad river crossing

[charred otter]

Is iron sword useful (for mountains or smthing) or do I better off keep the mace?

[merry pebble]

i mean you dont need the sword if you already have the mace, and mace will be a bit more usefull in mountains

[charred otter]

So mace is also the goto for mountains then I'll keep it

I personally prefer how the sword works but if there r no enemies that really benefit from having it then no point in using it for now

[nocturne wolf]

With iron I make an atgeir, mace and banded shield

[merry pebble]

yeah, blunt dmg is probably the most versitile throughout the whole game, tho i like the swords very much 😄

[nocturne wolf]

You'll also need an iron pickaxe to mine silver

[charred otter]

Yep, got a maxed one

I could maybe get an iron axe but I don't see much benefit

[charred otter]

I made a buckler, atgeirI don't think I'll like

[nocturne wolf]

Save the iron, you’ll need a lot more later in the game

[charred otter]

For what?

[merry pebble]

not necessary but if you dont mind spending the iron 🤷‍♂️

[hearty niche]

Later biomes have reliable iron sources.

[merry pebble]

i mean... 48 stacks of iron is quite enough imo XD

[charred otter]

It was actually 24-ish cuz I misscalculated lol

[nocturne wolf]

Are ||giant swords and armor|| really that good? I’ve never mined them.

[serene talon]

swamps still the best way to get in in my opinion

[merry pebble]

oh that makes a bit more sense, the 48 was REALY insane 😄

[wary shore]

Hares are so hard to hit

[merry pebble]

hit them with magic and they are gone 😄

[loud valve]

It's good in that they're there so you don't need to import them

[charred otter]

I was like so a chest has 8 slots, but it has 2 rows so it's 16 * 3 chests = 48 (so I knew the numbers but decided to multiply them cuz my brain confused 8 with 4-per-slot)

[loud valve]

There's still a lack of tin problem though

[merry pebble]

so you had 3 full chests? that would be 30 stacks

[pliant hatch]

That's why I use mace and axe for fighting.
As I said before, the axe got slash damage as well, making it a good combination between tool and weapon.

[merry pebble]

oh yeah, but i also enjoy fights where i dont have the appropriate dmg type 😄 ususally i craft one main weapon type per playthrough + i have axe anyway because its a tool

[charred otter]

Each one had 8 slots (cuz they were stored in the swamp chests)

[merry pebble]

ok

[pliant hatch]

I think I really need to get into the mountains.
My house looks like a bunker without any windows. 😦

[plush umbra]

when ashlands releases will I have to created a new world?

[pliant hatch]

Not if you haven't explored the Ashland area up to now.

[merry pebble]

and even if you explored only a bit you should still be pretty safe 😄

[dreamy kiln]

tho exploring can also mean just getting close to it as of 300-400m to actually "explore" it gamewise

[merry pebble]

yeah, but well, the shore will be pushed away so shouldnt matter much 😄

[dreamy kiln]

sure, just wanted to point it out 🙂

fog of war is not the actual border you discover, it stretches further

[pliant hatch]

Let's just say that as long as it doesn't show up on your map / mini-map you may be pretty safe.

Even if that means you've actually "explored" a bit more as what's shown by the FoW removal.

[dreamy kiln]

yeah as long as you havent really ventured into ashlands you should be fine...

else i would maybe start a new world and use the old character and maybe transfer some stuff over for a quicker approach to ashlands

[hearty niche]

Raids that come via boat would be frickin cool

[dreamy kiln]

haha, first tell everyone for years its better build close to shores cause of transports and then introduce raiding parties on ships 😄

👍

[merry pebble]

dont give devs those ideas XD

[pliant hatch]

Would be nice, but I doubt that'll do much to my base.
Even the access to my dock has been secured with multiple gates. 😄

[hearty niche]

Looking at my base that relies on the big ocean border (I get necks and the occasional Greydwarf Olympic Swim Team member) and thinking of it's relative safety is what inspired the thought haha.

Just the sight of the ships on the horizon would be cool.

[dreamy kiln]

already noted 😛

[pliant hatch]

So raids may destroy my boats and perhaps a few gates, but they'd never "infiltrate" my base.

[merry pebble]

crap... XD

[dreamy kiln]

always at your service Asatru 😄

[hearty niche]

My first play through, we had a squad of 5 or so and hit the shore of a fuling camp and the resulting mayhem was just... 🤌 I wanted more of that in the game.

[slate relic]

I've just found the mistlands for the first time... it's like going to the plains unprepared all over again!🤣

[dreamy kiln]

dont wish too loud 😄

[hearty niche]

I always say this because I think it's relevant.

The first word in the game's official description that is not Valheim or an article of speech?

"Valheim is a brutal survival and exploration game"

Mistlands Very Hard mode is kicking my ass all over the 10th Realm and it's still a pretty good time hahaha

... though I did recently learn Gjalls with stars are a thing so I might heed your advice there. Just knowing they exist ... shudder

[dreamy kiln]

then im confident for ashlands 😉

[hearty niche]

I always try to :high_five: (wait that's a thing on this discord) and frequently settle for 👠

[uncut bough]

goddamnit do mining soft tissue attract gjall?

[hearty niche]

I think the mining action in general is one of the louder things you can do

[copper lotus]

in a sense that mining attracts nearby units due to sound

[uncut bough]

i saw a sword stabbed in a rib cage so i figure there might be a skull, it was, but when i was mining, a gjall attacks, killed it, and then ANOTHER gjall

damn this skull is thick, i am getting all that soft tissue now

[pliant hatch]

I think it says a lot when the first skill reaching 50 is pickaxes....

[azure yacht]

So apparently, while dverger become aggroed when attacked by ballistas, they neither try to attack it nor try to kill you

[hearty niche]

On every MP server I've played on, my jump gets to 50 first purely from doing jumping jacks waiting for other vikings to go to sleep in early game

[pliant hatch]

On previous games / characters it was Clubs or bows as those were my main weapons through the game.
But this play-through I've begun using axes as secondary weapon due to it's slash-ability.
So those three weapons have dropped in gains somewhat.

I'm also mining a lot, considering my base needs a whole lotta Rosie stone for its construction.

So I'm kinda running over the meadows near my swamp base and removing all the boulders there.
And if I'm still short on stone, will do the same in the black forest near my Haldor portal or portal hub.

[paper marsh]

I've been using mostly knives and spears. Considering picking up clubs, but in mistlands rn and not a big fan of the mistlands club, and plains club is mediocre for mistlands

[half dragon]

an option is to create another world and mine stone there, will keep your main world cleaner and nicer looking, even if don't go through there often

[grizzled wing]

Frostner is pretty good, especially if enemies are wet

[paper marsh]

yea if they're wet I'll prob use ice staff though. Also wanting to keep my silver reserve so I can make a wisplight and in case Ashlands recipes require it, especially because I don't have a wishbone or 2 handed hammer for finding silver

[pliant hatch]

You skipped Bonemass?

[dreamy kiln]

👀 one cannot skip bonemass

[pliant hatch]

Yes you can.

Only Moder is a bottleneck. All the other bosses prior to her can be skipped if you want to use some glitches.

[dreamy kiln]

yeah true, tho skipping yagluth makes life hard 😄

[fallen zephyr]

Don't call Moder a bottleneck to his face; he gets real angry.

[dreamy kiln]

she

[exotic cradle]

Cmmon bois literally called MOTHER

[pliant hatch]

Don't call Moder a "he".

It may piss her off. 😄

[dreamy kiln]

😄

she is pissed off anyway 😄

u played with her eggs and killed the children

[exotic cradle]

How dare you

[dreamy kiln]

🤷‍♂️

[exotic cradle]

I use the eggs as decoration so she's happy

[dreamy kiln]

[fallen zephyr]

Sorry, I'm still using amateur-nouns.

[pliant hatch]

Anyway, Eikthyr can be skipped due to "troll mining" and "troll woodcutting";
The Elder can be skipped due to using two handed hammers to find iron in the swamp.
Bonemass can be skipped due to using the same trick in the mountains.

The game will be a lot harder when playing that way, but it is possible.

However, you will need the artisan table to create the crafting items you will need to process the barley and flax.
Without those, fighting Yag and the queen will be a lot harder, or even impossible.

[merry pebble]

also i believe its possible to get into crypts using chairs or something, or it at least used to be possible i dont quite remeber andi personally didnt use it

[pliant hatch]

I think that's patched out.

[merry pebble]

yeah, not sure, i just kill elder 😄

[fallen zephyr]

All of that sounds like such a chore, over just doing it as intended. I agree.

[shy marlin]

Getting to the queen is impossible without blackmetal, but I've recleared the queen on vh in full bronze age gear, it's def not impossible.

Yag would also be doable in bronze gear

[paper marsh]

Bonemass and Yag are the only bosses I tend to really skip either permanently or just for a fair amount of time

[shy marlin]

Skipping bonemass just sounds rough because of not being able to get his power for some more safety

Yag I can get behind skipping though

[paper marsh]

I find his power really boring, despite being strong

[shy marlin]

Same

[paper marsh]

I just don’t use it

[fallen zephyr]

So... how do all you legends of boss skipping manage without the boss drops that progress your build options?

[paper marsh]

On my current run I also don’t wanna deal with wolf raids

[shy marlin]

Wdym? Building with tar doesn't need any bosses to be killed, same with black marble, stone, dvergr lanterns, etc, anything iron related is just more tedious though.

[paper marsh]

Think that’s just Moder, and I never permanently skip her

[fallen zephyr]

Maybe, but there's no way I want to play the game without a swamp key or the wishbone. Why would you do that to yourself?

[shy marlin]

🤷‍♂️ Idk it's enjoyable for me, it's a change of pace compared to the "normal" way of playing the game

[fallen zephyr]

Just hire a dominatrix if you like pain. Jesus.

[exotic cradle]

It's not painful ^-^

[uncut bough]

you could eat another bite
pull an entire full course meal that takes up 1 food slot

Yea i would really consider that being a bite

[exotic cradle]

meme arrows in discord

[paper marsh]

For the challenge.

I usually just do it to make things easier tho. I don’t skip Elder because it makes iron very Grindy. But you don’t need much silver and it’s easy to find without wishbone

[fallen zephyr]

I apologise. You folks do you. I don't mean to shame.

[shy marlin]

Didn't interpret any of it as shaming 👍

[uncut bough]

I am starting to hate mistland tier weapons now

It drains soo much stamina, it is getting ridiculous

Somehow i keep thinking that blackmetal weapons are somewhat better

[shy marlin]

How many stamina foods are you running?

[fallen zephyr]

Mistweaver is great if you need to haul a bunch of stuff and can cope with reeeeaaally limited visibility.

[uncut bough]

1

I mean otherwise i dont wanna get 1 shot by a soldier

[shy marlin]

What's your combat difficulty on?

[uncut bough]

Back breaking

[fallen zephyr]

I have my Valheim set to 'moderate chance of RSI'. Are you playing a VR version, or something?

[pliant hatch]

Perhaps carrying his entire desk with PC, monitor, keyboard and mouse on his back.....

[paper marsh]

I will say Huntsman Bow feels pretty nice to use even in Mistlands

[vagrant bobcat]

were there changes to the etir refinery? I have it inside black marble and iron cage and its still doing damage to both... even more problematic, damaging the refinery itself.

ends up destroying itself before it completes a batch of etir

[uncut bough]

I will say Draugr fang feels pretty nice to use even in Mistlands

[pliant hatch]

Have you used that Spinebow yet?

[uncut bough]

Spinebow?

Spinesnap?

[pliant hatch]

The one looking like you ripped someone's spine out.

[merry pebble]

yup, Spinesnap

[pliant hatch]

I've been using it on another character and that bow lives up to its name.

[odd crest]

I think I remember something about the update being in the first quarter of the year or nah?

[merry pebble]

nope, that was only rumors, it always was first half

[odd crest]

Oh ok

[pliant hatch]

I'm afraid you remembered wrong.

Ashlands will drop in the first half of 2024.
PTB hasn't started yet, but there will be 77 days to go for the release.

[odd crest]

Well if it's the same month as V Rising that'll suck a little, only so much time for games sadly

[pliant hatch]

So?

Just play one and play the other one later.
Advantage could be that one of those two got a few bugs fixed while you played the other.

[odd crest]

I see what you mean but I usually play 1 game at a time

[sour fjord]

I'm a big fan of bows in games, I loved it when they added them to Destiny 2, and I love the choices we get in this game, but Draugr Fang and Huntsman feel like they're the wrong way around for their aesthetic given the biome you get them in. Also, Draugr don't poison, so why would a Draugr's fang poison? Another slight issue I have is that bows do extra stealth damage, but the top two bows GLOW which hurts your stealth a little. It's not much, and at range shouldn't mean anything, but it's noticeable.

[odd helm]

The draugr fang is made with swamp guck and ancient bark - having those bestow poison onto the arrows it fires makes a lot of sense to me, personally

[uncut bough]

I am so glad to never have to come back to swamp again

I am still mad that ancient bark cant be used as fuel

The only time i ever might consider coming back there is to get free coal, or kill leech and get blood bag for blood pudding, but now i can make Salad, so i only get coal

[pliant hatch]

That moment you forgot there's a hole in your floor and you end up with 2 HP left.......

[vocal rivet]

A MAXIMUM of 77 days.

[pliant hatch]

Just an advise of one member here to another:

If you can't add anything constructive to a discussion and / or aren't answering it when the question is asked, just keep silent and stop annoying people with your "I know it better that thou"- behaviour.

[ebon osprey]

I'm planning on improving my pc for Ashlands, what components do you guys recommend to experience Valheim with at least 60 fps?

[nocturne harbor]

Anything that's better than what you have.

[unique onyx]

ram

[exotic cradle]

Maybe some ram and processor upgrade ^^

[vocal rivet]

Yeah, the game is more CPU intensive than GPU.

[distant radish]

I think they're asking for recommended minimum specs

[odd helm]

Single-core CPU performance is going to make plenty of difference still, so prioritise that if you can.

The specs listed on the store page for recommended are a good start, but you might want to go beyond that to stay at 60 during heavier loads.

[unique onyx]

the question is a little vague. for instance you'd have 60 fps in a lot of areas with a older computer, but if you build or otherwise add a lot of instances you won't

[nocturne harbor]

To put simply, having the fastest interfaces is going to improve game performance vastly. DDR5 over DDR4, PCIe gen 5, etc. And CPU clocks.

[uncut bough]

Bruh i am so confused, a boar spawned under my house, like actually under the floor

[nocturne harbor]

There's a spawner there, probably.

[pliant hatch]

Oh, all the bones of the boars you slaughters came back to life!

[uncut bough]

I keep hearing boar sound, and the wolves ate constantly alerted/ investigating the noise

[nocturne wolf]

Boar spawners don’t exist? It’s completely random except for runestones

[uncut bough]

And then when i am just too annoyed, i had to do it, open cheats and go “killenemies”

[merry pebble]

pigs dont have spawners if you dont mean the one time spawns around the runestones for example, and those wouldnt do that

[nocturne harbor]

Devcommands says otherwise?

[uncut bough]

And then boom, loot under the floor, since then no more boar

[nocturne wolf]

Thats probably the one-time runestone spawn point

[odd helm]

You might be thinking of the one-time spawns around the boar runestone, yeah

[pliant hatch]

I hope that command didn't kill your wolves?

[nocturne harbor]

Fair enough.

[uncut bough]

It is killenemies so they dont

There are separate cmd to kill enemies, allies, or all

[pliant hatch]

I used "K" -which is basically doing the same thing - once and lost all my 2 star wolves.
Thought it was because I had "friendly fire" on, but never certain if that was the reason or not.

[merry pebble]

nope that kills everything

[distant radish]

For what it's worth, according to the wiki, there is an item ID for an item called "Spawner_Boar", but it's claimed to be in the category of "One time Spawners", so it shouldn't cause any kind of re-occurring problem if that's what it is, and the wiki is correct.

[pliant hatch]

Yeah, so I noticed. /sarcam.

[vocal rivet]

That is the one time spawner, yeah.

[tame yarrow]

WHY IS THE SWAMP SO HARD

I've lost almost 10 points in every skill to this biome

[merry pebble]

thats not so much 😄

[nocturne wolf]

Anything specific you want some advice for?

[tame yarrow]

I mean

[ornate sentinel]

Are you using a sword or axe?

[tame yarrow]

axe

[ornate sentinel]

You would probably want to consider getting the metal mace, see how that feels for you.

[tame yarrow]

could be a while before I can afford that

[merry pebble]

mace will help you with blobs and growths, also skeletons but they should not be much of a problem anymore, also be sure to have poison resistance mead with you 😄

[ornate sentinel]

Even a bronze mace will make a huge difference!

[tame yarrow]

poison resistance????????????????????

[merry pebble]

did you make fermenter? 😄

[tame yarrow]

no

[merry pebble]

try it 😉

it will be usefull pretty much the whole game

together with cauldron in which you make the mead base it alows you to make meads, basically potions 😄

[tame yarrow]

I understood that the philosophy required to play the game is "make everything" but for some reason I never take alcohol seriously xD

took me a while to realize DRG's beer had a purpose too

[merry pebble]

btw, do you have cultivator? also thing you will need the entire game and pretty much neceseary to access good food

[tame yarrow]

yeah, I just made it to plant trees though lol

[merry pebble]

did you pick up some white flowers in black forest by a chance? 😄

[pliant hatch]

Have you also planted carrot seeds?

[tame yarrow]

I horde everything I see, so I probably have them in a chest somewhere

no I've only planted tree saplings.

[merry pebble]

be sure to plant them 😄 and in swamp look for a yellow flower

the flowers drop 3 seeds, white carrot seeds and yellow i will not spoil

[pliant hatch]

A tip:

If you have 60 seeds, you will be able to do a full planting cycle.
20 of the plants you got can be replanted for 60 seeds, the other 40 can be used for two different kind of food.

If you don't have 60 seeds, grow your maximum amount, plant the ones giving you seeds up to 60 and use the rest.

[vocal rivet]

Wait, you've got to swamps without meads or crops? Colour me impressed.

[merry pebble]

just plant how much you want 😄 just be sure not to use up everything so you can replant in some sensible amount

[tame yarrow]

you're not supposed to be in the swamp off of deer meat, blueberries, and yellow mushrooms?

[merry pebble]

no 🤣 (if you are not total badass ofc xD)

[tame yarrow]

that might explain why I'm in so much pain

[vocal rivet]

Hell no.

[tame yarrow]

I meaaaan I've collected like 200 iron now and haven't planted a single seed

[livid wing]

Does chests found in the world replenish with loot at all? As in is it worth rechecking them occassionally?

[merry pebble]

WHAT?!

[vocal rivet]

That's fairly bad ass.

[vocal rivet]

Sadly not.

[tame yarrow]

I did learn the hard way that enemies will destroy your portals though. Then I lost 2 boats in a row.

[livid wing]

Ah ok, thanks

[pliant hatch]

No they don't.

Once looted they remain empty

[merry pebble]

i can see this guy beating ashlands in bronze gear now XD

[tame yarrow]

when I finish the game, I'll replay it with fist only

[merry pebble]

i think someone talked here about doing that, i dont remember if they followed up on it tho🤔

[tame yarrow]

ngl I have done some crazy shit tho. one time I was at 1 hp and there were 4 drougrs between me and the exit, and somehow I made it out.

sprint jumping is good.

[merry pebble]

also rolling is awesome 😄

plenty of invincible frames

[tame yarrow]

I just used axe and bow until swamp. I never felt the need for a shield. Once I got here, I regretted not leveling the skill in advance.

[distant radish]

Valheim paleo diet challenge

[merry pebble]

levels are not really "essential" they are nice to have but not as necessary as proper gear and food 😄

[tame yarrow]

my only gripe with rolling is that it takes quite a while to finish the animation

you move so fast that sprint jumping backwards and then forwards again will have you ready faster

albeit, with less stamina left

[merry pebble]

not much of a problem with proper food 😄 but stamina management is VERY important skill to learn

[tame yarrow]

stamina is such a scarce resource. even in dark souls, you get bonus stamina for parrying. It still drains here.

[merry pebble]

thats why i capitalized the "VERY" 😄

[tame yarrow]

I'm in a crypt right now and the abomination is right outside. It's been like 15 minutes. I just checked, and he's still there. 😭

[buoyant lake]

Time to run for it

Be brave

[merry pebble]

yep 😄 btw, bronze buckler can parry parry abomination

[tame yarrow]

I have 90 scrap and 60 bark on me. I'm going to have to run a lot.

[merry pebble]

at least lvl3 can

[merry pebble]

leave it there, kill it take it 😄

[tame yarrow]

kill?

[pliant hatch]

You can kill abominations using a sword, axe or bow with fire arrows.

[nocturne wolf]

Surtling spawners also work well

[pliant hatch]

Yeah, I always forget about those.

[merry pebble]

you can kill it using anything you want 😄 just the time it takes will differ a bit

[pliant hatch]

Waits for Asatru biting an abomination to death

[merry pebble]

could as well do if it would be possible XD i am already punching drakes, why not bite abomination 😄

[tame yarrow]

damn this crypt had so many scrap piles that my pickaxe just broke before I was through it all

[merry pebble]

are you using antler or bronze?

[tame yarrow]

no

iron pickaxe

I have 114 iron scrap from this crypt so far

[merry pebble]

oh iron, ok ok, i usually use only antler for iron cause you can repair it right at place with workbench 😄

[tame yarrow]

oh yeah...

[merry pebble]

and you can carry how much of them you like basically so you dont have to go repair as often

[pliant hatch]

Placing the workbench on top of the crypt, as you can't build them in it. I assume?

[merry pebble]

or next to it because the roof for the workbench is easier to place, but you risk it will be attacked (not much of a problem in my experience)

[pliant hatch]

The fact it can be attacked was the reason I asked.

[smoky raven]

just place a portal on top of it if the crypt is that big, you will need to get the resting buff anyways

[merry pebble]

yeah, not much of a problem as i said 😄 if you clear the suroundings a bit which you do anyway whn comming to the crypt

[tame yarrow]

hmm I wonder if I can make it half a kilometer with a 1400 pound cart all the way back to my ship 🤔

I died just getting back here with an empty cart lol

[half dragon]

so far I've had my work bench be destroyed only 1 time. It's convenient to use it to get on top of the crypt and place a portal there

even if it breaks you can just pick up the wood and make it again

[crude yacht]

They should rename it to "workstation/stepping stool".

[pliant hatch]

The way I play - well, build in actually - this game it should be renamed "Chinese Wall Building Simulator". 😄

[half dragon]

my base building is the UK simulator. Nobody welcome here

(spawn protection)

[waxen trench]

boys do you think its possible to beat the game with your bare fists and no armor?

[half dragon]

if it's possible to dodge everything and never get hit? sure

[waxen trench]

been trying for about a day and so far ive killed 5 trolls without dying

[crude yacht]

Super easy...just enable devcommands and godmode.

[waxen trench]

but thats as far as i can get, the first boss is harder

[half dragon]

seems very much doable to me, just complete pain in the ass to fight it for so long without making a mistake

[pliant hatch]

I know someone did a passive run up to Mistlands; but not sure which armor was used.

So it should be possible to do it with fists.
Without armor? Perhaps, as long as you're able to get good food and avoid being hit.

just posted the inside view of my "Chinese wall towers" in #screenshots message

As well as the view from the outside: #screenshots message

And don't ask me how much stone I put in that base, because I've lost count a loooooong time ago.
But over 10K for certain.

[half dragon]

I've probably gone over 30k for my base and still counting. Luckily don't need much more stone to finish my Inn.

Had to do a crap ton of raising ground

and not so small areas completely covered in stone floor

even just a simple cellar for mead turned out to be far more expensive than I expected

[pliant hatch]

Things being expensive in stone is what I run into as well.

In a previous game I made the walkway of my outer wall from wood.
I'm using stone this time, which means 6 stone instead of the 2 wood for moving along 2 m.

Fortunately the main bunker building is done and "only" requires wood from this point on.
And once I start to put windows in those walls, I may have some stone left for the outer walls and towers again.

[half dragon]

would be great if there was a 1/4 thick stone floor option instead of 1/2 thicc slabs

and make it 3 stone instead of that god forsaken 6

another thing that makes very little sense is the price of walls. that 1x2x6 wide wall costs so little compared to those small 1x1x2 bricks

[pliant hatch]

Yeah.
You loose a whole height of a stone block just for the floor.
Which is kinda why my main building - 5 blocks high - looks like a bunker instead of a building.
Just because I added a stone floor to it instead of a wooden one.

[half dragon]

I prefer the look of stone floors, but noticed they're too uneven for those red carpets, so started using wooden floors again, with exception of kitchen where it makes sense to have a stone floor... you know a lot of fire and stuff

can't wait to get access to that new wooden floor, should make my Inn look better

[waxen trench]

food isnt an issue, its just me not dying that is

im on hardcore so its pretty difficult 💀🙏🏻

[pliant hatch]

I'm sort of waiting for those new floors to arive as well.
Already have some ideas about how to use them.

I also hope we got more options to create horizontal barriers.

Right now our options are either a wooden half wall, iron grate or using all kinds of tricks to get the Darkwood divider or Dverger metal wall up in about half way.
Would be nice if those two come at half the height they are now as well.

[quaint kernel]

guys, deer now can be tamed?

[pliant hatch]

Not in vanilla.

[merry pebble]

no

[quaint kernel]

i just found a tamed deer in the pit of my base, but he doesnt show nothing, just the green bar and it doesnt run from me

[pliant hatch]

Are you using mods, perhaps?

[azure yacht]

#valheim-chat message

[merry pebble]

somebody already did report this bug, or someone on the server is using mods

[azure yacht]

I'm 100% sure is mods.

[pliant hatch]

It's a mod.
Just tried to tame a deer with the devcommands and it didn't tame.

[quaint kernel]

yeah, but me and my friends are just using MassFarming ,AzuClock and AzuCraftyBoxes, do you think that can be that?

[odd helm]

Main channels are strictly vanilla, please ask in #mods-discussion or #mods-issues

[fair cairn]

well, i got to the swamp the first playthrough with out a fermenter, its not that hard, though, in the swamp i was like, theres gotta be some kinda poison resist thingy

[pliant hatch]

Root mask.
Doesn't work as well as the mead, but it works.

[nocturne wolf]

Mods can unintentionally break the game in weird ways

[fair cairn]

my first playthrough the abom did not exist

[half dragon]

mask is more than enough to tank through poison of even oozers

with mask you can run up to it and button smash for the win

[fair cairn]

it makes poison last i think 15 seconds? or am i completely misremembeing numbers here

[pliant hatch]

Ah, "first playthrough" in that way.
I thought you were doing one without a fermenter for the first time right now.

[nocturne wolf]

Button smash? If you mean button mash, you can just hold the attack button.

[fair cairn]

thats would be exceedingly difficult, lol

[half dragon]

button holding just sounds lame tho

[fair cairn]

also, doesnt feel as aggressive

[pliant hatch]

button holding is how some people play other games though.
Although it's called "spray and pray" in those games.

[half dragon]

in Valheim it is pray and release (arrow)

[pliant hatch]

And it requires some skill to do a one hit kill as well.

Or at least remove as much HP from a monster as you possibly can.

[half dragon]

planning to go for some kind of assassin/rogue for one of my charas, maybe next one. Knives and crossbow kind of thing, with some ratty strats mixed in

[pliant hatch]

I'd say, use wooden arrows all the time, but even over time those will become OP for some enemies.

But then, the bow has its influence on that as well.

[half dragon]

would crossbow be any less OP than bow? I know it's good for that sneak damage for starting fights

[pliant hatch]

You'll get it quite late in the game.
Meaning you will have to do a lot of fights with the knife only until you reach that area.
And Bonemass as well as Moder will be pretty hard with a knife only.

But then Bonemass will be pretty hard with a bow too.

[half dragon]

well obviously will be using bow up until then, but not as the main weapon. and don't mind swapping to different weapon when slash/stab aint it

luckily ashlands gives more use for crossbows

[azure yacht]

The initial massive sneak dmg is significant. I've one shotted many non-starred fulings with it

[nocturne wolf]

It would be a good idea to skip bonemass for the silver knife but without a sledge finding silver will be quite hard

[azure yacht]

You can also sneak kill a non-starred troll if you hit the head

[pliant hatch]

I'm currently one-shotting Draugr with a lvl 3 huntsman bow and flint arrows.
I might switch to wooden arrows at some point just to keep the fight a bit more interesting. 🙂

[idle storm]

you can sneak-kill a non-starred troll with an iron knife. Even the Abyssal Razor almost manages it.

[tame yarrow]

pro tip, if you're stupid like me and go into the swamp with blueberries and mushrooms, don't try to haul your 1200 pounds of iron in a cart all the way across the swamp. Just take them 1 stack at a time and save yourself the absolute torture I just went through being forced to pick up the shattered remains of my corpses and carts anyway.

[nocturne wolf]

Walk with multiple stacks encumbered

[tame yarrow]

no

[nocturne wolf]

Why not?

[tame yarrow]

why would yo do that?????????????????????????????????????????????? that's suicide.

[nocturne wolf]

It’s only suicide if you die, though?

[tame yarrow]

I was constantly being chased by 5+ drougrs

[fresh jasper]

There is no iron knife

[nocturne wolf]

Drop the iron, kill them, then pick it back up.

[tame yarrow]

dude you can't kill them

[nocturne wolf]

But I can??

[tame yarrow]

maybe 2 at a time, but once it gets past 3, it's a no go

[fair cairn]

the huntsman bow has half the agro range the other bows do so thats a pretty good stealth ranged weapon

[tame yarrow]

okay well you probably have better gear than me.

[nocturne wolf]

Kill them before there’s that many

[nocturne wolf]

Better experience*

[tame yarrow]

can't, theres spawners everywhere.

[fair cairn]

technically, the razor blade is the iron tier knive

[idle storm]

Right, silver of course. My brain defaulted to "after bronze comes iron".

[nocturne wolf]

Destroy or avoid them

[tame yarrow]

you actually are comfortable running through the swamp killing things with bronze gear and blueberries, mushrooms, and venison?

[fresh jasper]

Yeah I tend to forget that there is no iron knife too

[nocturne wolf]

I’d go in with troll armor better food but that’s not too bad if you’re careful.

[tame yarrow]

maybe I'm just getting impatient, I cleared 2 crypts without much trouble

[idle storm]

Yes? Stay out of deep water and you can outWALK most enemies while you regen stam. Root harnesk to deal with archers and as long as you eat the good food you aren't in much danger.

[tame yarrow]

what is a harnesk

[nocturne wolf]

Root chest armor

[tame yarrow]

never heard of it

[fresh jasper]

And if there is a horde chasing you just hop on one of those swamp roots

[nocturne wolf]

Kill abominations for roots to make swamp-tier light armor that boosts bow skill, resists poison and pierce and is weak to fire

[tame yarrow]

right so, tell me again that this is a good idea to do while encumbered?

[idle storm]

lol no. I just run iron to a temporary outpost at the nearest coast with the Eikthyr power and use a ship.

[nocturne wolf]

It is (almost always) faster than making a separate trip for each stack and less painful than moving a heavy cart through a swamp

[tame yarrow]

I don't believe that you could carry 4 stacks of iron with my gear and make it across the swamp

[nocturne wolf]

What’s your gear, then?

It’s not a problem if you drop the iron when an enemy is nearby

[idle storm]

Actually wait... can you sneak while pulling a cart?

[latent wraith]

Just make a cart, the swamp is ideal for pathmaking with how flat it is.

[idle storm]

because draugr have really terrible perception iirc

[tame yarrow]

I ran the cart into 2 spawners by accident, and I never got it out

[fresh jasper]

Bat raids are so annoying

[nocturne wolf]

Just look where you’re going next time

[azure yacht]

Probably yes, but I'm sure it'd be a terrible idea

[fresh jasper]

We literally lost all of our chickens and boars today

[azure yacht]

Don't think it makes you less sneaky, but more because it must slow you down so much that you might not even move at all

[nocturne wolf]

Make indoor farms so it doesn’t happen again
No more free-range boars

[fresh jasper]

Yeah we will, luckily the chickens had laid 8 eggs so we can make a new chicken population

[idle storm]

I didn't really consider the speed. Just that most swamp enemies that aren't leeches are pretty easy to sneak around.

[nocturne wolf]

Why sneak around if you can kill them for resources?

[idle storm]

And you can just use a hoe to make a path through the water for those.

[idle storm]

because you're pulling a cart full of iron while in BF gear and not confident in your combat skills

at least that's the theory

[nocturne wolf]

How are you going to improve when you’re avoiding everything?

[idle storm]

i don't actually have trouble in the swamp

it's my favorite biome

[fresh jasper]

Everythings easier in multiplayer, if me and my friends have a harpoon one just drags the others across the swamp (the one being dragged is encumbered by all the iron)

[nocturne wolf]

Same here, or maybe mountains??

[fresh jasper]

I hate swamps, that's the biome that ends my worlds most often

I like mistlands more

[nocturne wolf]

It’s grindy but I like how predictable draugr are compared to fulings and greydwarves

[idle storm]

Mistlands are great too. But the radius of wips torches is a little on the small side imo so base building there almost requires finding a mist-free spot (that's alos a good base location).

[fresh jasper]

I kinda like the grind but the swamp is just so depressing that the second I go there I already want back home

[idle storm]

I like the atmosphere. I go there at night with my Dead Raiser to level my blood magic, it's great.

And the density of enemies is great too.

[fresh jasper]

Mountains' soundtrack is probably the best imo

[idle storm]

Also i'm never short on chains

[late coral]

After many hundreds of hours I now deal with swamps correctly I think. No nighttime and always rested, for one thing.

[nocturne wolf]

This applies to the entire game, not just swamp

[exotic cradle]

Unless you need chains and a cute trophy!

[nocturne wolf]

Night is good for gathering resources, just make sure you’re gathering safely

[late coral]

Building a small or large base near a Wraith spawnpoint will yield many MANY chains. They can't fly into 2m balconies either. You can snipe chains all day.

[nocturne wolf]

Wraiths don’t have spawnpoints

[late coral]

Especially good if in Black Forest where there is a constant battle between the two biomes. You could also do plains if you dare.

[idle storm]

Going at night is fine once you're used to the biome and have the gear.

Well unless it's the Mistlands. 2-star Gjall are very not fine.

[late coral]

They spawn high up in the permanent swamp trees more often than not. The "clusters" that create shelter underneath tend to be the most common locations.

[idle storm]

Go into swamp at night
hit tree with axe
wraiths appear

that's my method anyway.

[nocturne wolf]

I often hit trees with an axe to make sure i never miss nearby enemies.

It’s very helpful hunting wolves

[idle storm]

yes, before summoning a boss too. Nobody likes getting interrupted by blobs while fighting Yag.

[undone lily]

Is there away to set up a server setting were if you want the boss buff you will have to defeat the boss cause I know when some one beats the boss it slows all to grab the buff right ? I wanna stop that

[merry pebble]

i dont think thats possible in vanilla, maybe with mods? but i am really not sure

[nocturne wolf]

you want people to only have the forsaken powers of bosses they have killed themselves?

[hasty heart]

200+ is higher

[undone lily]

More so people who ever joins feels like they have to play the game instead of feeling like everything is already done I already set it so raids are based on character progression not on bosses

[sour fjord]

Oh, absolutely, the stuff that goes into it makes complete sense for semi-magically imbueing each arrow with poison, but I meant specifically from a naming perspective.

[nocturne wolf]

Draugr axes don’t poison but we don’t know what happens when they bite

[dire locust]

within 30 seconds of turning on Valheim my base gets attacked :aaa:

[torpid fern]

truly a moment

[sour fjord]

done a whole bunch of trips out to find serpents, rarely stormy

decide to go find moder: instantly run into a storm at night

and a puffer hops on for the ride and halves my health

[shadow storm]

Thats valheim for you though, you search for a specfic item/mob you'll never find it, then you'll randomly run into it when your doing something else

[tawny swift]

And i still wonder why updates for this game take ages after they sold about 7 million copies....

[frigid gust]

Because it's still in development, it is not just a content mill. The games you are used to that have frequent updates are ones that are already developed, just adding new assets or changing settings. Valheim is developing at about the same rate that most other games do, you just don't see it because they aren't early access.

[red vessel]

anyone newer to the game?

im about to go to swamp area its my first playthrough, its across the water tho how sohould i go about bringing materials back to my base? by boat alone?

[vocal rivet]

Boat or portal.

Depending on your settings.

[timid moon]

do tamed wolves kill tamed boars

[strange arrow]

passion for the project

[vocal rivet]

No, they don't.

[timid moon]

niceee

[strange arrow]

all tames become player faction, so they all get along once tame

[cobalt token]

Over 12 million reported in 2023 I do believe.

[mortal raven]

Guys I can't stop thinking about catching a sea serpent a building a home for it

[fleet ingot]

what if it doesnt want to live in your home?!

[fleet ingot]

They also havent expanded past 12 employees regardless of making a crazy amount of money

[vocal rivet]

14 is definitely more than 12.

[fleet ingot]

i listened to a interview a week ago that wasnt more than a few days old the dev said 12 but if its 14 it doesnt change anything

[vocal rivet]

You're right, it's still irrelevant.

[mortal raven]

Do you think I care?

[near furnace]

are we having this old discussion again? 🤔

[mortal raven]

It's sniffer again!

[near furnace]

I mean I live in this discord 😄

[fleet ingot]

thats a kind of hell i wouldnt wish on anyone XD seeing that there hasnt been any content update in forever

[near furnace]

I mean..

sometime we have this person trying to make a rockus..

but usually it's super chill and nice

so many friendly people

[fleet ingot]

Oh your a dev 😨 didnt realize

now what you said makes sense, nevermind 🥺

[near furnace]

yes. 😄

and I am a Community manager aswell

[loud valve]

But what are your thoughts on Odin?

[topaz warren]

Again with this more money = more developers = more content. I wonder where this argument stems from because I've seen the opposite happen in real life.

An example that won't rustle any jimmies: Minecraft. When version 1.0 released it was a small team that was able to keep pumping content at the rate of 2-3 major releases a year. Then its success skyrocketed, the team expanded a lot, and now releases take 1 year or more to add a bunch of decorations with no other purposes, and maybe a new mechanics.

It doesn't work like that. Rock bands don't release more albums just because they're richer (and when they do, they usually suck). Soccer teams don't win more championships just by hiring more players. Governments don't get more efficient just by adding more offices. And so on.

[azure yacht]

Nah, I'm sure if they hire 100 more people we would have updates literally every hour

Trust me I'm a super expert developer.

Matter of fact, I invented games

[muted cairn]

If that's the case I offer myself to work as a programmer and developer as well as art-professional for the low amount of $5 per month.
Not planning to do any actual work but if my employment speeds up Ashlands I'm all in for it 👍

[sharp halo]

any enjoyers in chat

[near furnace]

https://tenor.com/view/patpat-pat-comfort-pat-on-the-head-there-there-gif-10534102

[sharp halo]

I invented YOU therefore I invented games

[lunar sapphire]

Here!

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/822401694716395551/822403362825175120/gif-unscreen.gif

[sharp halo]

ayoooo 💯 ?

[lunar sapphire]

Queens jam ftw

[sharp halo]

how about ?????

I live off and

[rain flare]

Gjall spit that last bit hits like a truck for me 😂

South Africa did the same thing - we had 4 major provinces and now we have how many again…
Nine???

I think somebody was over enthusiastic for Nordic mythology on that one 😂

Kinda sunk our own boat cause now we have too many cooks in the kitchen and nothing get’s done for tripple the price cause we have to paid for all those extra salaries that we actually don’t need.

[rain flare]

Also, we are working with a small personal project here - small group of people all invested on a project of shared passion 🔥

Sure, it’s slower, but the results are so much better than a lot of the other stuff I’ve seen from the industry recently.

[sharp halo]

💯🗣️🔥

[summer crane]

There is a bit of a more complex and unique reason that the Minecraft happened the way it did but the other half of it is that they suffer from big company studio issues.

In general bigger company means that you need more communication which means you need more infrastructure and more hierarchy and that just keeps going on indefinitely. HR starts getting introduced, the company may go public, people with monetary fiduciary obligations appear, etc.

It then becomes a thing where adding something to the game requires a meeting of like 12 people, it takes like 4-12 weeks to make the feature, 1-2 weeks to QA and bug test, and then it's pushed to it's appropriate release flow.

More money = more potential, but it has diminishing returns at a certain point and may be used in ways that are less obviously beneficial to the player

[rain flare]

This is frighteningly accurate as I work in a software company myself 😂

[summer crane]

With Minecraft, they have to maintain two literal versions of the game (with one of them being on all possible platforms) in terms of coding and share the universe with two other games with completely different play styles when it comes to adding new content (visuals, lore, purpose, etc). A lot of people like to say that "well it's coded in Java so they can easily port it C++" which is not at all how that works. They basically have to do double the amount of coding work if not more, anytime a feature get's made.

[rain flare]

Again, highly accurate

I can imagine that is the same with Valheim on pc / Xbox, let alone if they do a PlayStation port at some point

[summer crane]

Yeah minecraft kinda screwed themselves with the creation of bedrock. I am sure it's profitable and employs a lot of people but they halved their content creation speed for sure by doing that.

Having one version of your game a few platforms shouldn't be that big of a deal. It should also easier to go from PC to Console as Consoles all have the same specs. Console to PC is where the issues start and games like Darktide, Dragons' Dogma2, Cyberpunk, etc all come out with horrible PC performance

[rain flare]

This is very true!
Now….
Back to Valheim 🤩🤩🤩

[loud valve]

For every builder you add to a project, it triples the time it takes to finish because they need to argue about the design and process

[exotic cradle]

no, i do

[merry pebble]

i mean... cant both of you? XD

[exotic cradle]

no, that would be madness

[sour fjord]

Companies that make literally any physical product can make more of the same faster with more money. That's why people see that. If I have a money printing machine, at some point I'll be able to buy another money printing machine and make more money faster, a la Cookie Clicker. The more money I have, the more money I can make.

Games not being a physical product means this doesn't track perfectly over, but if they did have more developers they could make more content faster. Like the infinite monkeys with typewriters thing, they could put out huge amounts of content constantly with enough money to hire enough people.

It would all be troll-shit quality though, and that's where the problem comes in. Being partly a passion project in an industry where your customer base will go viral telling the known universe how terrible your product is, quality is paramount, both in the principles of the creators and the interest of actually making money doing what you're doing. Every idiot screaming for more people to be hired to speed up things doesn't realise that Valheim isn't being made by an army, it's being made by a special forces squad. They might make less overall, but what they do make is VERY good. If you keep expanding your special forces you just turn them into a regular army. Yes, they can do more on a larger scale, but it won't be the quality and depth people expect and demand that made them popular in the first place.

@uncut bough ?

[uncut bough]

Feels like that argument should belong in #general

And the entire debate

[azure yacht]

It's about valheim so it does technically belong here

[sour fjord]

Thank you.

[vocal rivet]

As tedious as it is, it's still about Valheim.

[summer crane]

Don't worry guys, the server has moderators 😉

[vocal rivet]

No kidding.

[exotic cradle]

Was a good argument!

[deft thistle]

Does anyone know when update will be?

[exotic cradle]

[azure yacht]

Something tells me we will have more base defense options in ashlands considering the warfare theme

I wouldn't be that surprised if we got mine-like pieces that explode when enemies are close (that would also explode if you get close)

[exotic cradle]

Moar traps!

or a gosh-darn cannon

[lusty crescent]

Ac-130 in valheim when

[exotic cradle]

Bazooka?

[azure yacht]

Flying fortress

Greydwarves get a new flying variation that bombard rocks

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-finn-poe-dameron-they-fly-now-fly-gif-25032438

[lusty crescent]

Worst possible ending

[summer crane]

Fire trolls with shoulder mount rockets confirmed

[exotic cradle]

[azure yacht]

Blastoise

Blastrolls

Starting to want IG to develop a fantasy + sci fi game after they're done with valheim

[blissful cove]

"oh hell to the fuck no" -emperor of mankind

[summer crane]

I am really looking forward to these Raids and that crazy player operated cart they showed (asuming it wasn't scrapped)

[torpid fern]

greydwarf baloon dropping troll rocks

clash of clans valheim

[sharp halo]

😤

[lusty crescent]

Surface to air missiles

[opal prairie]

Morning gjall.

[exotic cradle]

you're late today

[merry pebble]

Mornin kamap 😄

[opal prairie]

I know, someone higher up made a mistake and disabled proxy settings on a server and no police in the whole of Belgium had any working outside connections, so was actually not able to get on sooner.

[exotic cradle]

You're forgiven

[opal prairie]

Noon actually but you know, noon gjall doesn't have the same panache.

[merry pebble]

i know i know 😄

[exotic cradle]

It's afternoon, aftergjall.

[opal prairie]

If you know, you know.

[rain flare]

Yo, that is some serious crimes waiting to happen! 😂

[opal prairie]

Luckily we had a slow morning here in Schoten.

[mortal carbon]

after playing gow ragnarok i want to begin yet a new valheim world, already played it like 10 times thru

[opal prairie]

Porque nos los venti? ||Why not 20?||

[exotic cradle]

automod for nonenglish plz

[opal prairie]

Added translation.

[dreamy kiln]

who summoned the mod 😄

[opal prairie]

Sam she is.

[summer crane]

Someone didn't speak English for 9 one-millionths of a second

[dreamy kiln]

😲

[exotic cradle]

BAN THE HERETIC jk don't

[azure yacht]

ñ

[dreamy kiln]

one cannot just walk into another language!

[odd helm]

It's spelled veinte

Venti is one of those bs drink sizes they give you at starbucks

Speaking of coffee

https://tenor.com/view/fox-fox-coffee-coffee-furry-foxfox-gif-27187755

[exotic cradle]

We're in the wrong chat for coffee!

[odd helm]

Oh crap

My bad

[merry pebble]

Sam moding the mods XDDDD

[dense steppe]

[exotic cradle]

I'm noooooooootttttttt

It's just breaking my immersion

[odd helm]

Naw that's totally on me~

Didn't realize what heccin channel I was on

Literally just woke up

[dense steppe]

That's it, you're on their blacklist

[dreamy kiln]

updates blacklist

[half dragon]

Objection! There is also a cute fox, I think this crime should be forkitten.

[dense steppe]

[opal prairie]

Isn't it Italian for 20?

[opal prairie]

Isn't a cute kitten.

[ornate sentinel]

#suggestions - add coffee to Valheim? now we can say we are on subject once more

[odd helm]

Then you'd say 'Perché non venti'

maybe, it was Google translate I can't into italian

[opal prairie]

I wanted to try my hand hand at spatilian or italish.

[uncut bough]

man after getting to Mistlands in my private server, now returning to my friend's server and only started conquering mountains, i feel compelled to just hand him the armor i crafted at my server, wolf armor, and rush boss already

i will keep the fenring, i am speed enjoyer

[odd helm]

Yes, let's go back on topic, thank you dog

[uncut bough]

no problem let

[odd helm]

Pft

[uncut bough]

i feel like when playing with friends, there is less incentives in using taming mechanics

[odd helm]

Is this your friend's first run through? I'd avoid gifting him the armor in that case, let him enjoy the progression pace at least once~

[uncut bough]

yea it is his first, it is also my first but after i took some times studying in my University exams, while he got some family business ( nothing bad happened), i just find myself grinding in my private server

[half dragon]

it shouldn't take too long to get him up the speed when it's 2 (or more) people. It's much easier to move around that silver when got more people

and 1 can keep mining even during combat

[uncut bough]

i had a treasure trove of silver in my server

maybe i will just hand him the silver to skip progression, i just dont like silver mining

[odd helm]

don't give in

[opal prairie]

Jedi handwave
This is not the shortcut you are looking for.

[uncut bough]

he started to ask me what is the blackmetal shield i am using, but i gaslit him into thinking that it is just banded shield with different design

[rain flare]

I won’t give up, no I won’t give iiiiiiin, until I reach the end, THEN I’LL START AGAAAAAAAAIN!!! 🥳🥳🥳

[half dragon]

some people lose interest very easily if they get rushed through parts of the game. But no way for me to know how your friend would feel about that

[odd helm]

Wait you already brought in a bm shield?

[uncut bough]

i mean i got caparace shield too but we only had forge at our server

so bm shield should be fine, and as long as i can gaslight him, he should believe that it is banded shield

[half dragon]

up until you get to plains

[uncut bough]

well then i will gradually change the gaslight

[opal prairie]

It will burn bright though.

[odd helm]

Hmph

[dense steppe]

@uncut boughgive them your used old things

[strange arrow]

cheatzzzz

[uncut bough]

i can give him plains armor while i use fenrings armor

[dense steppe]

or give him root armor

[uncut bough]

he got the root armor already, we just passed swamp

[dense steppe]

give him a set of silver armor then

[uncut bough]

that is my plan

[dense steppe]

I have a lot of old junk lying around my chests, I give it to my friends

[rigid copper]

I horde it in case I need to help anyone. Don’t want to bring Mistlands gear to help someone beat moder. Cheats them out of the experience

[dense steppe]

I take the magician’s equipment, a lot of potions, then they’ll dream about my performance like Vietnam

[uncut bough]

i got some help in overcoming the intimidation of swamp when i first enter it

the prospect of seeing everything in that biome is meticulously handicrafted by devs to specifically kill me is just horrifying

constant rain, leeches, draugr that patrols the biome, everything

[dense steppe]

I felt right at home in the swamp, the friendliest biome

[odd helm]

• said no one ever

[dense steppe]

all my friends die in the swamps all the time, and I beat them in the bronze set, I didn’t change it until I forged the full iron set

[rigid copper]

Swamp wasn’t that bad. Just stay out of the water. XD
That and use blunt weapons and lots of arrows

Didn’t upgrade from max lvl club until after bonemass

[dense steppe]

I hunt leeches in the water you need to swim around well to collect them after you, and then kill them

[rigid copper]

Hunting leeches is always fun, Cept when your being chased by an abomination

[livid wing]

Once I got the poison resistance mead, Swamp became a lot more accessible to the point leeches didn't freak me out anymore (except 2 star ones)

[dense steppe]

abomination is not a problem if you have a halberd

[odd helm]

Nah, it's battleaxe for the aboms

[rigid copper]

Thankfully I beat the swamp long before abominations became a thing

[cobalt token]

Exploding enemie when? 🤔💭

[dense steppe]

I made fires in the swamp at the entrance to the tombs, dried out and got rest

[opal prairie]

Fire arrows from on top of indestructible logs or crypts.

[summer crane]

What are the chances that the next update has capybaras? I'm thinking 100%

I mean the fact that we have an emoji is basically proof

[dense rapids]

Then where is the corgi?

[summer crane]

true

[opal prairie]

Better question, where is the 🦘 ?

[dense rapids]

But that's not a valheim emoji right?

[opal prairie]

True but still a valid question, I want my kangaroo meat to roast over an open fire, its hard to get here in Belgium although I have grilled it before, so at least let me have it digitally.

[celest wing]

I do not trust you dude

[vocal rivet]

Try "spawn StatueCorgi" in a world you don't care about.

[opal prairie]

Corgi falls world dies?

[vocal rivet]

It's just safer to try these things in a spare world. True for any item not currently ingame.

[hearty niche]

lmfao outstanding

I feel a topiary feature is a must-have for 1.0

[charred otter]

Will I know when I see silver? is the generation similar to copper?

[hearty niche]

Have you defeated the swamp boss?

[charred otter]

Not yet but I got maxed iron/root so in terms of gear I am ready

[hearty niche]

Some silver deposits stick out of the ground but most are buried underground. Defeating the swamp boss will greatly aid you in finding silver.

[charred otter]

Ah I see, I assume there is some "xray" item it gives?

[hearty niche]

Maybe not that exactly but something that will be more obvious (I feel) than the difference between big green rocks and copper deposits.

Also silver spawns in higher elevations so you gotta get waaaaaaay up in the mountains to find it.

[frigid gust]

Kinda 😉 It's worth figuring it out. I wouldn't worry about biome skipping for resources just yet until you've played through the intended progression path.

[charred otter]

Yea, I just have like a somewhat tiny mountain near my base so I thought might aswell see if I can get some silver

[frigid gust]

Gotcha. Nope. You might get some wolf pelts, but a tiny mountain almost certainly doesn't have silver. Only the tallest of mountains do.

[charred otter]

Ah alright, kinda procrastinating bonemass bcz of the terraforming I gotta do

In terms of gear, what's the combo with iron/root?

[frigid gust]

Nice thing is there's no timer on the game 😉 No reason to rush through things.

[charred otter]

There is a day count which kinda tells u like "200 days have passed and u still didn't kill bonemas"

[frigid gust]

Sure, but there's no actual timer that causes any calamity if you don't

[charred otter]

U can obv just ignore it tho

[frigid gust]

Root chest is super useful in the Plains and Mistlands, less so in the Mountains. Whatever mix you want, though. I personally like doing a full root set because of the bow bonus, it's handy in the mountains.

[charred otter]

No, I mean specifically for the bonemass fight

[hearty niche]

lol that would be funny if games had a "You've been putting this off for a long time so I put it at the top of your todo list" feature.

[frigid gust]

Oh... yeah. Iron mace, best food and poison resist mead are the biggies. Beyond that the armor isn't as important, depends on your skills and preferences.

[charred otter]

I'll use poison meads so prob iron helm, but not sure about cp/legs

[hearty niche]

Bonemass hits hard so I usually go into that fight with less stamina planning on taking it slowly cuz I hate dying.

[frigid gust]

If you are making the iron armor anyway, there's no reason to not use it against Bonemass. I rarely make that armor because it just takes so much metal I'd rather spend elsewhere.

[charred otter]

That'd be funny lol, telemetry that tracks the average time and then if you are like 10-20% slower than avg the game starts nagging you about it

[charred otter]

I already maxed everything iron related (even made a sword and an axe cuz I had extra)

Do I go melee with mace or bow?

[frigid gust]

Well... keep some in reserve. It is very necessary through the rest of the game 😉 At least 100 in the Plains, and more in the Mistlands.

[charred otter]

My food is sausage dear stew and turnip stew, can get some black stew for the fight for that little bit extra

[frigid gust]

Mace melee, bonemass doesn't even get tickled by an arrow.

Yeah, swap the deer stew for black soup and you should be ok

[charred otter]

I have 67 spare rn after maxing everything + probably 6-12ish stacks unsmelted in some crypts

[frigid gust]

Iron is also super useful for building, especially up high.

[charred otter]

Until now everything that is large destroyed me with melee (trolls, aboms) really scared fighting him melee, what's the strat?

[hearty niche]

If you can dodge a wrench, you can dodge a ball.

[charred otter]

I can't dodge, I parry

[frigid gust]

Don't get hit, move out when he does his poison cloud, and make sure there aren't any deep puddles of water around his shrine that will slow you down (the hoe is super handy)

[hearty niche]

Seriously though - watch their attack patterns and be patient. Just like you can't win a poker tournament ina single hand, you can't kill the boss in a single swing so focus on taking swings without taking hits.

[frigid gust]

Learn to dodge eventually 😉 Dodge rolling will avoid all damage, parrying is only good up until you don't have enough armor and health to do so

[charred otter]

So first half of the fight do I just run to see the attacks?

[hearty niche]

Yeah I wish I would have trained myself to dodge-roll in early game instead of defaulting to parry. I watched my buddy get dropped by the Valkyrie, run into the forest, and beat a troll to death with his bare hands wearing nothing more than rags.

[hearty niche]

You can circle. Valheim doesn't have z-targeting obv so that's a bit trickier but I tend to strafe in a circle around enemies to observe them.

And I say this with all the love and kindness in my heart but stop asking us and go fight the blasted heap of bones and goo!

[charred otter]

Need to terraform the area cuz it has quite a bit of water so I am procrastinating

[frigid gust]

Enemies have to stop to attack, so as long as you're moving sideways you can almost always avoid their attacks. Oh right... kill everything near the altar before starting, and destroy any skeleton/draugr spawners in sight, they will come join the party if they can hear it.

[hearty niche]

That's a good idea, sudden disarmement is never fun

[charred otter]

Will most likely not happen today cuz I don't have much time, I'll to finish terraforming today

[hearty niche]

Nice. You'll do great.

[charred otter]

How far do I need to destroy those

[frigid gust]

I'd suggest render distance. If you can see them from standing on the altar, they're too close. The top of the altar is also a good place to take short breaks during the fight 😉

[charred otter]

Oh can bonemass not reach me from there?

[dense steppe]

I never lie

[frigid gust]

Not directly, but there are things he can do

It's just relatively safe compared to literally anywhere else

[rain flare]

Never trust a khajiet 😂

[dense steppe]

that's right, I don't trust them either, they're kind of shady

[charred otter]

How far do I need to spawn proof

[frigid gust]

I generally don't do much, just nuke the spawners

[dense steppe]

@rain flareso don't trust any cats except me

I suffer in this feline kingdom of lies and deceit, like the only light of truth, surrounded by an ocean of prejudices

[celest wing]

No I mean you're crazy

Swamp enjoyers scare me

[dense steppe]

I'm just a great warrior

[celest wing]

Swamp isn't even that bad when you get used to it. It's just kinda annoying

[pliant hatch]

As said earlier,

everything you can see from the top of the altar.
If you think that's not enough, do a little bit further out.

In general, the only thing you don't have to worry about are the leeches.

[frigid gust]

The Swamp is about the safest biome once you get further in the game... lots of raids can't trigger there, and they don't get the nighttime spawns that other biomes do, so no roving bands of Fulings or Seekers or anything.

[dense steppe]

yes, they get eaten there pretty quickly

[pliant hatch]

Not eaten.

Just pierced, quartered, poisoned and sucked dry from blood.

[vocal rivet]

Oozers, Draugr elite and Wraiths only spawn at night.

[celest wing]

Ironically the mistlands is my favorite biomes despite being literally slapped out of existence in 3 hits. I literally came across a 1 star seeker soldier and spent 10 minutes straight just arrowing it down to kill it through a doorway because it legit could two shot me

[celest wing]

Wraiths are so frustrating for the sole fact that parrying feels so awkward cuz it is slightly delayed

[pliant hatch]

Run away turn around and put a fire arrow in them.
Two, maximum 3 hits and they're down. In both ways of speaking.

[celest wing]

Yeah they're not even that difficult to kill. Realistically they're only dangerous when you're already being swarmed cuz they catch up pretty fast against heavy armor characters

It isn't even that bad because I only end up in that situation because I usually get swarmed because I got caught out too late at night in the swamp

[half dragon]

after playing dark souls/elden ring, 2 hits sounds a fair deal

[celest wing]

I don't play those games so I prefer the path of least resistance even if it took 10 minutes

[dreamy kiln]

One does not venture out late night in valheim ☝️

😛

[frigid gust]

I do it all the time! I'm just a bit more careful in the Mists...

[pliant hatch]

You mean: "One does not simply venture out late night in Mordor Valheim"?

[celest wing]

Mistlands isn't that different at night from what I've noticed

[frigid gust]

Biggest issue is the Gjall can be starred, and that can be a bad time

[celest wing]

Yeah true, but Gjall are ironically not that dangerous to begin with for me

Mainly cuz I always carry fire resistance mead for them and dvergr

I will admit they did have me sweating bullets when I first entered the mistlands and heard their roar cuz I had no idea wtf it was

[frigid gust]

I carry that too, but 100 blunt and 160 fire damage will hurt regardless of your resistances

Not to mention triple the health 😉

[celest wing]

Yeah but they're all that difficult to fight to begin with. You just gotta be more careful

[dreamy kiln]

luckily the order of biomes in terms of difficulty will soon change 😉

[celest wing]

Oh?

[frigid gust]

"Man, I can't wait to get back to the safety of the Mistlands..."

[celest wing]

Bro I am so hyped for ashlands to get murked instantly for a good hour. Not even joking I love learning more about a new biome and getting better

[dreamy kiln]

too hyped is never good, but excited you should be 🙂

[pliant hatch]

I'm just waiting for all the hate at the Steam discussion group.

"Valhiem is killed off by the lazy devs. First they give us an area where you can see shit, now they added an area where everything is burning up. Game is too hard!"

[celest wing]

I always temper my expectations, but I just love exploring new biomes

[dreamy kiln]

thats when i quote this from the steam store page: "A brutal exploration and survival game..." @pliant hatch

😄

[frigid gust]

"The new difficulty sliders allow even you to succeed at the game!" 😛

//snark

[celest wing]

It is pretty unforgiving with dropping items in harder biomes. Specifically mountains and onwards cuz they got specific things that make it hard to reach your gear

[dreamy kiln]

One does not venture out without replacement gear at home! 🙂

[frigid gust]

Plus trophy drops... I just finally got a Fuling Berserker trophy, and I've been puttering around waiting for the Ashlands before I defeat the Queen

[pliant hatch]

I'll be waiting for it and will enjoy it a lot.
Just prepare yourself to post that comment about 25 times a week the first half year or so. Just like you had to do when Mistland was released and you had the same threads complaining about how hard the biome was popping up 3-4 times a day.

[dreamy kiln]

then those shall not be disappointed 😄

[celest wing]

I often do just out of habit. Like just in case I get swarmed or I accidentally get myself killed. Never hurts to be too careful

[dreamy kiln]

always wise to keep your replaced gear in a chest

and have a backup item like a 2. cloak or potions rdy

[pliant hatch]

In case of very hard emergencies, keep all your armor from your start up to where you died last time.

You'll see, after loosing it all in deaths, you'll be able to retrieve it using your stone axe, wooden club and leather armor.......

[celest wing]

Admittedly I do have the toggle for teleportating metals on to speed things up. Sailing can be pretty boring to do all the time

[dreamy kiln]

fair enough kuri

[celest wing]

I did do my first few runs with it off though to get the intended experience

[dreamy kiln]

same here...

[vocal rivet]

Sailing is one of the best parts of the game.

[dreamy kiln]

i love to sail as for exploration

[celest wing]

Sailing is petty cool. It's just fairly uninteractive for longer trips. I'll sometimes literally eat lunch while sailing cuz it takes a while

[dreamy kiln]

same here

[half dragon]

How good sailing is is proportional to how fast your ship is sailing (direction of wind)

[frigid gust]

Just sail a different direction if the wind isn't going your way. Find a new path 😛

I've turned metal portaling on in one world, but I find it trivializes making a forward base, kinda sucks a lot of the planning around that. Run a portal in and you have everything you need, you don't need to figure out how to haul tons of heavy metal around to properly outfit it. Though I do appreciate black forges being fully teleportable 😛

[vocal rivet]

As great as the world modifiers are (and they really are), it's very easy to remove the, well, game from the game.

[hearty niche]

Yeah the only ones I've used with regularity are the difficulty and resource modifiers (I'm too old for grindy stuff). Some friends tried playing no map / no portals / permadeath and it was kinda stressful tbh.

[frigid gust]

Yeah. I do 1.5x resources, which still feels a little OP at times because single drops are always doubled and not at a 50% chance of it, but other than that normal settings.

[unique onyx]

i dunno i think back tracking what you've already explored isn't really any new game but your results may vary lol

[frigid gust]

Uncovering the map isn't the only gameplay. Figuring out the logistics of how you're going to get Blackmetal deep into the Mistlands where you want to build some extractors is still gameplay, even if you know where things are on the map.