#valheim-chat

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merry pebble
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onion

uncut bough
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I foraged 250 mushrooms in chest

half dragon
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mushroom itself is already a reason for me to skip it since I'd rather use it for something else

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that 10 extra hp barely matters to me

uncut bough
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Accumulated since meadows, me and my friend got the habit of foraging all the raspberry and mushrooms there are

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Not knowing if it ever will see use

half dragon
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again, was talking about casual 24/7 use when you may or may not even see combat

merry pebble
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sausages are great food to have when you just plan to run around your base, wolf skewers are indeed better food however since you get 4 sausages from 1 set of ingredients its indeed much easier to mass produce them 😄

half dragon
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also I think I'd rather go for wolf jerky instead. more stats and less resources

merry pebble
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yeah, that in also great base food, and both ingredients are farmable 🙂

half dragon
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if you're not using stamina hungry weapon without stamina regen boost that should be enough stamina boost and skip stamina food

uncut bough
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Honestly i will still die on the hill that wolfskewer is also easy to mass produce

merry pebble
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its always good to have at least one stamina food i would say (maybe not in higher difficulties but i didnt try them so i cant say) and i use one health one meadium and one stamina ususally 😄

uncut bough
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I got a 2 star wolf farm in my house, got all the onions and mushrooms i can harvest

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Life can’t get better than this

merry pebble
half dragon
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and I'd rather not spend any extra effort if I don't have to

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I'll get the get the real good food when I'm raiding those villages and not dealing with random stragglers

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sausages don't really get much easier to mass produce. 1 boar meat and 1 thistle for 4 sausages, entrails are even easier as long as you just have a portal near a corpse pile

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oh just noticed it's also 2 mushrooms instead of 1... that's already basically 4 times more effort just for that

dim adder
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yeah the mushrooms can be a bit of a nuisance if you dont happen to find a few big clumps of them to farm

half dragon
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no such luck for me. only got around 7 of them near my base or any of my portals

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never really seen any big clusters of them while adventuring either despite of paying attention to them. That is mostly why I can't really bother to collect them at all since I'm not planning any long term use for them, with exception of serpent stews I can produce without really putting much effort into collecting mushrooms, if it's the only food (to use mushrooms)

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Wish that recipe used yellow mushroom instead and I'd be all for it

half dragon
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Holy shit what a lucky find, 2 fire geysers basically hugging each other

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near 3 other geysers relatively close

hallow canyon
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Leather scraps are always useful for decorating - all the banners require them

mystic gale
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i hope that after we get 2 more biomes the previous food items dont become irrelevant

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although it would be weird to have a dish consisting of all the meats in game

half dragon
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almost certain that all foods we have now will not be all that good in the final biome. best foods we have right now still should be decent in ashlands though

merry pebble
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yeah, basically as it was in all biomes... 😅

mystic gale
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Its just that i like boars and picking blueberries in the black forest so it would be sad if there wouldnt be any need any more

half dragon
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blueberries are good for tasty mead, doubt that recipe is going away

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it's really good for what it does

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combat or just doing stuff at base that requires stamina? it has you covered

mystic gale
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also you still need blueberries and leather for blue banners so i guess there's that

gray nexus
regal spoke
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Tetra render before webbing? Similar to other animals passing through objects.

brazen shore
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The tetra pond I found is actually quite close to the cave entrance and definitely not the lowest part of the cave like the wiki states. And sometimes I find the fish at my feet near the edge of the pond ready to pick up.

half dragon
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abominations finally started spawning for me. for some mysterious reason they just refused to spawn until now. first 5 hours in swamp, only 2 spawned, about 2 hours later a 3rd, and now in 15 minutes 3 of them spawned

lyric olive
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When I needed those I just went to my biggest swamp once a day and checked every area of it

half dragon
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it's a huge swamp with 20 crypts yet it still struggles to spawn them consistently

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I think abomination spawning could usse some rework...

lyric olive
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Strange, but maybe the crypts is why, my swamp barely had any and they spawned like every few minutes of me wondering around

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From my experience they never spawned near a crypt

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They can go towards one once spawned but while in the ground I've never seen one near a crypt

half dragon
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hmm... same. never seen one spawn too close to a crypt

lyric olive
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I think the crypt and abomination probably share some properties maybe

half dragon
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what is frustrating about this is that this abomination hunting is the last thing holding me back from progressing to mountains

lyric olive
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I think the crypts are put onto the map, then ther abomination is spawned away from them

half dragon
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well there's still that bonemass but at this point it's just a 1 small thing to remove from checklist...

lyric olive
half dragon
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I could easily kill them, if they just decided to spawn

lyric olive
half dragon
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yup, solo all the way

lyric olive
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Ah okay, I'd recommend not doing the archer playstyle against bonemass unless you want to be there all day

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i mean its possible though

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Maybe with a higher bow level its a different result too

lyric olive
half dragon
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not planning to fight it with a bow, just don't want to make iron armor. want to stick to light armor as long as possible

lavish cargo
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Does anyone know a seed with a tall sealed tower on a somewhat small (read spawnprovable) island.

rare birch
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Do tamed wolves not eat Hare meat?

merry pebble
uncut bough
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They eat deer meat, neck tail, boar meat, lox meat, raw fish

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First time i hear dog eat fish

merry pebble
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why wouldnt they? 😄

rare birch
# merry pebble no they don´t

Strange. Seems like that is something they actually will eat in real life. I got like 10 wolves in the edge of the mistlands. It is basically a hare meat farm. As long as a Gjal doesn't show up. Then its a wolf meat farm lol

strange arrow
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i'd be going nuts if my wolves were munching through my stocks for misthare supreme xD

merry pebble
latent wraith
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Hare meat wasn't a thing yet when meat was split into types and wolves got a specified diet. :p

merry pebble
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yeah, thats probably the reason XD

strange arrow
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it may be a retroactive change that gets made

latent wraith
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yeah I guess it was just either forgotten or considered unimportant.

strange arrow
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at some point, or not 😅

slate glacier
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it has the default login. i should set its name back to orange tho.

half dragon
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Well at least you can't feed your wolf a vegan diet 💀

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Gotta take good care of those pups

rare birch
merry pebble
analog nacelle
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any good xbox servers?

half dragon
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well, wouldn't be the only inconsistency in the game imo. Cloudberries would make far more sense to grow in swamps, but they're in plains instead. They can grow outside of marshes and such, but that would usually still be a location near one or just abundant moisture in the soil. Plains look pretty dry to me...

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but anyway, not too important

odd helm
strange arrow
latent wraith
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Plains used to be called heathlands and is far closer to heaths/"highlands" than actual plains. Cloudberries fit there, the biome name not as much. :p

half dragon
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a swamp is a forest usually

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but not always, of course

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but there's so many different types of swamps that would be a topic of its own

strange arrow
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i suppose there's a few places they could actually thrive

latent wraith
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and yeah, a swamp isn't a mire or bog. Cloudberries commonly grow in mires or bogs (though they can also grow in much drier areas).

digital nexus
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guys, is there a mistland boss? or is the skeleton the last one?

half dragon
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a dry grasslands just doesn't seem like one of them to me, swamp would be the closest biome but whatever, not everything has to be 100% realistic

latent wraith
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The Mistlands has a boss, yes. All the progression biomes do.

digital nexus
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hm... thx

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one other doubt i have... is there a way to improve equipments besides leveling it up on the forge?

latent wraith
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No.

digital nexus
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so the upgrade on he forge is the only way to improve an equipmen?

latent wraith
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Again, yes.

strange arrow
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some pieces require other workstations, but the method is identical

digital nexus
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K, thx! ♥

latent wraith
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You make things and then you can upgrade them to their max level (or the maximum available level if they require a higher workstation than you can currently make).

digital nexus
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i saw some dudes doing over 1k damage with silver swords... thought it was some sort of enchanment... but ok, thx :3

strange arrow
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lel

latent wraith
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Could be modded, mods can do all sorts of stuff.

strange arrow
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mods for sure

digital nexus
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oh! yeh... interesing, good to know... thx for the info

strange arrow
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that's like 10x it's output xD

digital nexus
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yeh... i was struggling to get 120~150...

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only on unnoticed strong attacks

frozen void
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with mods you can spawn higher level items, like level 1000, etc

half dragon
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1k is way higher than you can do weapons like that. You won't get much higher than 200 or 300 with sneak attacks and strong hits on staggered enemies

paper marsh
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knives get so great backstab damage I luv it

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||Crossbow ||too

half dragon
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there we go, finally done with the swamp. bonemass wasn't too bad. quality 3 root armor got the job done with help of poison resist mead. Iron mace does really nice damage to it... just need some patience and make sure to dodge all those swings

white mural
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i maxed out my iron armour and got a level 4 iron axe with iron buckler, abominations are easy

frigid gust
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"Done with the swamp", you're silly

white mural
strange arrow
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do you have an iron mace maxed?

white mural
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no

frigid gust
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Bonemass will laugh at your axe, but if you've got a mace you're probably set

half dragon
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crypts don't count as swamp. they are a nice cozy places to relax and just swing that pickaxe

white mural
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i also have level 4 spear, but thats probably bad too

strange arrow
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yup xD

frigid gust
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Iron mace is the best one-handed blunt DPS in the game, even including Mistlands gear

white mural
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damn, i guess its time to get the iron for a mace

half dragon
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is that while not counting any of the DPS added by other damage typess?

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since later tier weapons have a lot of split damage going on

frigid gust
half dragon
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frostner though. only specifically effective in the swamp right now and still good in plains, no clue about mistlands tho

frigid gust
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But the iron mace is also going to be your best bet against golems as well, so it's worthwhile

half dragon
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probably good in ashlands when it comes out

strange arrow
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Frostner is awesome, remains awesome even in Mistlands

frigid gust
half dragon
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just take sword or spear instead...

strange arrow
frigid gust
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Lox resist slashing, but a spear is ok. Porcupine uses your mace skill and can be a lot better depending on those stats.

half dragon
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doesn't sword stab do pierce instead?

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huh... apparently not

strange arrow
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nope

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realistically you'd never be taking a lox on in melee though, my strat is either tame them if i have time, or lead them to a tar pit and watch the fun

half dragon
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why not? due to that weakness to pierce they're pretty quick to delete in melee

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Atgeir is your best friend for that

strange arrow
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why take a risk

half dragon
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there is no risk... at least not any more risk than just taking on one of those skeeters

strange arrow
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granted i'm also usually doing all that in bronze gear as well 😅

half dragon
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yeaaa... bronze gear aint for taking on loxes haha

paper marsh
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Do player base items not placed by a player still prevent spawns?

half dragon
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silver at minimum for plains, maxed out iron might barely work

strange arrow
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so by the time i'm ready to take them on i'm well stocked on all their drops

half dragon
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btw, is riding a lox any faster than walking/sprinting?

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or is it just for street cred?

strange arrow
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it's a bit faster

latent wraith
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And you don't notice that you are carrying a lot.

half dragon
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assuming you're wearing normal armor instead of fenrir?

strange arrow
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ye

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i've never trained it to high levels for obvious reasons

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but i assume it's pretty speedy at the top end

paper marsh
strange arrow
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if Plains had dungeons they would have more use

odd helm
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They have fuling villages

frigid gust
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Ride the lox into battle, jump off and you've got a battle buddy 😛

strange arrow
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lox dies

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parked outside a dungeon would be less chance of that

half dragon
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possible to transport loxes to other islands?

strange arrow
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yes

odd helm
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They fit inside a longship

strange arrow
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i wouldn't try it without a saddle tho

half dragon
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hmm... they would be nice for replacing carts for sure, no speed penalty for weight?

odd helm
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Aye

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Only problem is that it depends on your inventory storage

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A cart at least has a good amount of storage slots

half dragon
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just not very effective for heavy stuff, 4 slots filled with metal and it already gets bad for going uphill

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well no clue about adding in a fenrir armor, that should help a lot

latent wraith
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I did some testing a few days ago and concluded that 11 stacks of silver (4620kg) is the most stacks you can have in a cart and still get up a relatively steep slope.

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Not very scientific testing, mind, just making a path up a slope, filling a cart with silver and see when I could get up. :p

half dragon
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the issue isn't getting up the hill at all, but doing it in time that doesn't burn though your patience

odd helm
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That's really subjective

half dragon
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not really... when it's that heavy would almost certainly be faster to just do 2 trips instead

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would have to test that though

latent wraith
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If I wanted more than what I could drag with relative ease I'd take two trips. 11 stacks was the limit there. I could have gotten up with more but at a frustrating crawl. Better indeed to take more trips.

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And of course if you don't want to make paths for easier movement it'll be hard with that much as well.

odd helm
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How often do y'all actually deal with hills when transporting metals?

half dragon
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once I get a boat, I don't. Only early game, rest of the time I only push carts though roads I've made myself

latent wraith
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Fairly often, though I prefer to get copper that's close to the shore and use a boat for transport.

odd helm
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I get a bit of that hauling tin and copper around, but for iron I usually just beeline to the closest coast in the swamp with a longship ready, and with silver it's much easier to toss the cart down the mountain to the closest boat

half dragon
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ngl, swamp is really nice for carts. just take your hoe with you and flatten/raise the ground for yourself

latent wraith
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Swamps don't have hills so carts up hills is only for copper (and silver if it's a hill between the shore and the bottom of the mountain where the cart stops).

half dragon
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hardly takes any effort but makes the transportation much easier

latent wraith
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Swamps are perfect for pathmaking, being so flat. :>

tulip patrol
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I try to base near the oceans so I dont have to trek metals up hills, I can dock and unload than start smelting away.

half dragon
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I setup a small dock with a portal in meadows next to a 20+ crypt swamp, then created some paths ahead of time for fast and safe transportation

odd helm
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My main bases have always been against a coast

latent wraith
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In my most recent save I made my base at the top of a tall and steep hill...
I'm gonna have to make a switchback path down to the sea to drag a cart up on.

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I usually build my bases on the shore but this spot was so perfect.

half dragon
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I'd raise the ground to make that slope uphill easier to manage

latent wraith
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I expect I'll build another base as well, I've found another spot I really like on a small island.

half dragon
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I also found REALLY nice looking location. when I noticed that spot in the seed generator I knew I have to pick that seed

latent wraith
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Thankfully there's a lot of copper at about the same height as the base.

half dragon
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by raising the ground you can make the slope longer, which reduces the angle

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like how steep it is

latent wraith
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Yes, I know how roadmaking works. :>

strange arrow
latent wraith
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It'll be a switchback road, as mentioned above.

strange arrow
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Eikthyr can help as well, i wouldn't want to be at a point where i'm wasting meads just to haul metals tho

latent wraith
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Not killing Eikthyr on this save but that is indeed a very nice bonus for traversing hills.

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High stamina and sprinting with Eikthyr on makes one hell of a difference.

frigid gust
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Tasty mead: it's like Eikthyr in a bottle 😛

paper marsh
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Damn crossbow is actually pretty good. First time I'm really giving it a chance

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who thought it was a good idea for Blackmetal Pickaxe to take 105 blackmetal to max?

half dragon
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high running skill would make that also so much easier. went to check and the benefits are quite substantial for maxed our running skill. But... currently getting skills to high level is borderline impossible for slow to level up skills. Unless you stop going to new zones where you do not have best available gear for it yet, you're going to die and lose a lot of progress.

Sometimes you just get unlucky... was hunting abominations, killed 5 without any issues, but then night arrived when I found another one, was fighting it just fine but rest bonus also ran out, then suddenly draugr archer and a few skellies decided to join a party, had no enough stamina to fight back at all had to spend it all avoiding taking damage, only occasionally get a few hits in.

Eventually killed all the small fries getting in the way and continued my fight with the abomination... only for a wraith to sneak up on me and kill me when I was out of stamina doing a combo on abomination

paper marsh
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Yea I'm surprised at how good run skill compares to fenris as well

fallen zephyr
paper marsh
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Hey snails can be pretty quick

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Also my current playthrough I have 100 run and thats the first skill I've ever maxed

fallen zephyr
paper marsh
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pffft all snails have legs. We just don't use them unless we have to

fallen zephyr
half dragon
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hmm... was about to start preparing frost resist mead for mountains and wondering how many is enough... but then I realized... I don't have to bring that silver out of the mountain to use it to craft that wolf cape. I can just melt it there, make a crafting bench and call it good. don't even need to bring in any metals, so I can just bring all the materials for level 2 bench through a portal

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guess a single mead base is enough

light moat
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Even going into the mountains and bringing silver back to base, I’ve only ever needed one mead base (6 total meads) and I’ve only even made more for decoration lol

strange arrow
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it is in any case, 60 mins of resist should be time to get wolf trophies and silver in decent amounts for the cape/armor

half dragon
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if you're crafting on site and only mine what you need, probably 2 or 3 is enough unless you're unlucky

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think I'd want to make that first trip the only trip I'm making to mountains, if possible

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I mean, for mining silver.

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after getting the cape can take my time mining all I want

fallen zephyr
half dragon
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usually I have no issue with that. after killing the ones nearby usually can finish most of it and occasionally kill a few drakes... unless they changed how they spawn/move around

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oh wow... I just realized I don't even need a boat. the mountain close to my meadows base near spawn looks high and large enough to have silver in it

dense steppe
fallen zephyr
half dragon
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I'll probably still park a boat near the coast to make transportation abit easier

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ngl, this seed is a better than I first thought. bonemass was at really annoying location almost all the way to mistlands kind of distance and had to make quite long trip for elder, but mountains seem to be at great location

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usually the one near spawn is just a snowy hill and no silver

fallen zephyr
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I never understood the seed-searching mentality. I landed in Valheim with whatever the game dealt me. That's just part of the experience.

half dragon
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I picked this one based on locations for building a base. If I want to build a permanent base the location better look good and be practical

stuck jackal
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I just started tame a lox and it started showing hearts. I don't know how long it took for it to tame

half dragon
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also I do not want to get near deep north or ashlands by accident... kinda need to check that online map to ensure I do not

merry pebble
half dragon
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I remember not checking ahead of time the seed of my first save, never found a location to build a permanent base so I made a new world just for that

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spent hours and hours just sailing around coasts of plains but never found the right one

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checked seed generator and found a suitable spot and seed in 30 minutes

burnt stump
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odd kernel
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Best way to deal with stone golems?they keep spawning near the spot me and my brother are trying to mine for silver

light moat
fallen zephyr
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(sorry caps)

paper marsh
fallen zephyr
light moat
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That’s fair, but for me I’ve already played through once with a random seed, so for this play through I definitely browsed a few to pick one that stood out to me. Of course, I don’t spoil any locations such as dungeons or boss altars.

I do similar things for games like Minecraft and Terraria. It’s a weird thing, but for me, if I don’t like the seed, it’s rare that I’ll enjoy the playthrough.

half dragon
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out of games like these minecraft is the only one I don't do that in. the world is nearly infinite and you can find nice locations with 100% chance eventually

light moat
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This is going to sound really silly… but I really don’t like going outside of like 2000m in Minecraft- just because the coordinates become too much to read 😅 getting a little off-topic though, sorry!

half dragon
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a good iron mace would help massively too

light moat
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You can trap a golem in a pit, and it’ll stop them from spawning in a given area.

fallen zephyr
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Maybe we need some experience categories? We can split players into three categories - 1. "Oh, shit, I'm in Purgatory!"; 2. "This is not the Purgatory I signed up for!"; 3. "No, I don't choose this. KTHXBAI Purgatory."

fallen zephyr
half dragon
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iron mace solves it all

hallow canyon
half dragon
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weirdge... well at least you can always make multiple runs, considering how fast the lox is compared to cart at same weight it's pretty good

fallen zephyr
hallow canyon
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I still managed to traverse the black forest pretty effectively even without run. Just had to be a bit more careful in where I went to make sure I didn't get stuck

vestal geyser
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howdy all. I need to join a good community server.. any suggestions?

fallen zephyr
vestal geyser
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thanks moose, that's the optimism i was looking for. how do you feel about the future 🙂

fallen zephyr
exotic cradle
vestal geyser
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okay, that's sad. sounds like you're very skeptical which means you're exactly the person to have children... the kids wouldn't trust anyone and rightly so lol

fallen zephyr
near furnace
vestal geyser
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in fairness @exotic cradle I did ask the question 🙂

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i will stick to the topic at hand boss

strange arrow
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thought i was being summoned xD

merry pebble
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he has general in the name 😉

fallen zephyr
azure yacht
fallen zephyr
half dragon
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btw, is there still a way to raise the ground to max heigh relatively effectively? it seems like that is no longer nearly as easy as it used to be

strange arrow
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no super fast way, but raising one pillar to max and working off the edge of it brings the next bit to the same height, and continue like that

half dragon
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weird. quite often it just doesn't do that, but instead do some weird half way point and raise very small section...

strange arrow
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i mean from standing on the ground and aiming at the top of the wall/pillar

half dragon
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I did aim at the top, but it didn't raise it all the way to the height I was pointing

strange arrow
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the terrain start level also affects how high it can be raised

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sometimes a level 6m wall is preferable to a bumpy 8m one

half dragon
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ah... probably easier to raise it in sections then and not try instantly to the max heigh

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oh you meant the max max height

strange arrow
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you can smooth out with the hoe to get it nice and level

half dragon
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it didn't raise to the max height, just somewhere mid point and have to keep using the raise near max height multiple times until it finally rose high enough

simple shoal
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I ask you to honor the memory of those who died in Crocus City Hall

dense steppe
light moat
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Very sad indeed, but not the right place 🙂

dense steppe
light moat
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Just made the mistwalker, first weapon I’ve made since the mistalnds.

dense steppe
rustic compass
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how does serpant shield pierce resistence work in practice?

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can it block 2x the damage if that damage is pierce?

dense steppe
paper marsh
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It’ll half the damage from pierce on a successful block yeah

I’m not 100% sure if it’s twice as efficient at being successful while blocking, but I think so. Bc I think the resistance on the shield takes place before stagger and such, unlike the resistance on root harnesk

desert tangle
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what does " the forest is moving" entails?

dense steppe
desert tangle
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should i run away? im in my base dont want it to get destroyed ;(

pliant hatch
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It means the resin, wood, stone and greydwarf eyes, as well as the occasional ancient seed, dandelion and bukeperries are coming to you.
For free.

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So equip that bow, select your fire arrows and start sniping.
And when they're too close, use your axe and whatever kind of shield you have.

latent wraith
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It means a lot of greydwarves will spawn around you for a couple of minutes. They will know where you are even if they can't see you so they'll break through walls to get to you.

paper marsh
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They’ll focus you over your base if they can see you

latent wraith
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Note that if you go outside the red circle on the map the raid timer will pause (and contunie when you go inside the circle again), but it can be better to get some distance to the already spawned ones if you're getting low on helath or just need a little breather.

desert tangle
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rip my first death

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oh no they are still here ;(

paper marsh
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They’ll keep respawning if killed during the raid, but after the raid ends (red circle disappears and text goes away) if you kill the remaining enemies they won’t respawn

rustic compass
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so I assume I wont get damaged reduction by just carrying the shield from pierce correct?

paper marsh
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correct. Gotta be blocking

pure blaze
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what's the respawn timer of berries?

strange arrow
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8 in game days/4 hours

hoary cypress
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hello there

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me and a group of 4 other friends have beaten this game twice and prepparing to go for a third playthrought

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what are some mods or overhauls to make this third playthrought a little bit more different?

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either adding more content or changing progression

exotic cradle
obsidian glacier
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hello i died in missedlands in a cave and i cant get again my stuff cause there is more then 10 creatures around my stuff how can i play now?

loud valve
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Either use cheats, ask for help or abandon your body

half dragon
#

well... ideally you would have prepared or kept backup gear

strange arrow
#

leading them away is a viable strat

fair cairn
#

was about to ask if towns existed in caves

strange arrow
#

ye misreading like a boss xD

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bombs or an aoe weapon might be the way

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(and didn't the 5 previous biomes teach anything about going prepared? xD)

paper marsh
#

If the game is too tough for you there's also difficulty and death penalty settings that can be adjusted

nocturne wolf
#

Theres even cheats

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The cheat sledge is very fun to use, but only if you absolutely need to

strange arrow
#

mines are nasty places fr

merry pebble
nocturne wolf
#

thats boring though

azure yacht
paper marsh
#

I'd take a mine over a crypt any day

strange arrow
#

crouching tiger hidden draugr

obsidian glacier
obsidian glacier
paper marsh
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Just always beware of the consequences of your actions. For example running deep into a mine and dying will be hard to recover your tombstone, but if you go slowly through it and be careful you might not die and the tombstone will have less enemies / be closer to the entrance

obsidian glacier
paper marsh
#

yup yup. Slow and steady wins the race, be a snail!

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If you go slow and give yourself room to backup enemies shouldn't be able to come at you from more than 1 direction

half dragon
#

no gifs?

merry pebble
loud valve
uncut bough
#

idk if i can bring wolves to fight mistland enemies with me

strange arrow
#

you can

uncut bough
#

well i mean i could but would it be viable or the seeker just 1 shot them

nocturne wolf
#

They would be hard to move around all the cliffs

uncut bough
#

oh yea the cliffs, i remember now

strange arrow
#

they can manage to follow you around but you'd need lots to have good chance

uncut bough
#

man first time entering mistland, it is such a headache to play

strange arrow
#

some of them would probably lose pathing tho

uncut bough
#

visibility is near 0, it takes time for the wisp to clear a patch of mist in front of it, terrain looks like someone drew that with a pencil and forgot to roughen the edge

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actually i would argue they made more edges which creates endless mountain where suddenly it is all about parkouring skill

paper marsh
#

But they'd also take some nice bites out of the seekers

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wait actually if they're 2 star wolves and just against regular seekers on normal difficulties they could tank a hit. Not much more than that tho

nocturne wolf
#

They will make finding enemies in the mist much easier

uncut bough
#

10 of them , i have 4 in a pit, 6 of them roaming in my loooooonghouse, and they keep making more cubs

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well of course it is near the dock and in meadows so there are plenty deers and necks to farm meat and chuck it to them

nocturne wolf
#

How long is the loooooonghouse?

uncut bough
#

idk it is looooooong though, took 3 hours to build

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i believe it is about 30-40 meters long

uncut bough
#

ok then i will not take them out at all

paper marsh
#

I'd take 0

strange arrow
#

you'd spend most of the time defending them from aoe

nocturne wolf
#

You'll be fine in mistlands if you always have a portal near you

uncut bough
#

then i take 5

paper marsh
#

wanders through mistlands with heard of 50 wolves

Gjall noise in backgruond

nocturne wolf
#

At least they won't take fall damage

uncut bough
#

i just took down 2 gjalls with someone else

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never in my life have i seen a more hideous creature, next to mosquito

paper marsh
#

Gjalls have less health than I remember. Even on Very Hard it's like 5 spear throws to kill it

uncut bough
#

stop the cap

nocturne wolf
paper marsh
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You cannot stop what you do not start

uncut bough
#

then u stop the cap

uncut bough
regal spoke
#

Snail, Your spear skill is near max?

paper marsh
#

yea I think it's 91 or 92

uncut bough
#

so hearing 5 spear throws is actually sounding like cap

paper marsh
#

And the lvl 2 carapace spear. Does good work at range, even better work in melee

regal spoke
#

Has to be the difference

pliant hatch
uncut bough
#

well i would never, a seeker soilder will kill me

nocturne wolf
#

Hitting a tree with an axe or a rock with a pickaxe and then crouching is an easy way to tell if there are enemies nearby, there will be an eye over the crosshair.

regal spoke
#

Night in the mist on very hard sounds like a death sentence

paper marsh
nocturne wolf
uncut bough
#

also it is kinda funny how weak dverger rogue 0 star is, i saw a normal seeker just absolutely bodied the rogue

paper marsh
#

One enemy that I just can't spot unless it shows a healthbar tho is deathsquito

uncut bough
#

and that is seeker 0 star

regal spoke
#

Lone Dverger perhaps. But a group puts in work

uncut bough
#

probably they are stronger in packs of dverger

paper marsh
#

Dvergr don't have lots of health, but the rogues do decent damage and the mages shred anything they hit

uncut bough
#

it was lone dverger, it died so fast i got the black marble

paper marsh
#

Plus they can heal each other

uncut bough
#

time to lure some seeker soldiers then

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at worst, it is free seeker meat, at best, the entire outpost is overrun

paper marsh
#

I always try to assist the dvergr in their fights so they don't die. It's nice to have safe houses scattered around the mistlands

regal spoke
#

2* soldiers I would assume give dvergr groups a challenge

halcyon blade
#

I know they give multiple groups of lox a challenge.

uncut bough
#

light bulb!

paper marsh
#

I find it depends on terrain a lot too. Dvergr stand a much better chance if they can see the opponent coming, than if they're sitting behind a wall waiting for a seeker to be right in front of them

2 star ice mage could prob dispatch a 2 star soldier if good terrain

uncut bough
#

well i will make sure to run around and gather enough seeker and soldiers then

paper marsh
#

if bad terrain - bye mage

uncut bough
#

like at least 20 of them before i lead them toward the dverger

paper marsh
#

I need to find a 2 star ice mage near ashlands and then try to bring it over there

uncut bough
#

that is if i manage to get that much but it is worth a try

paper marsh
regal spoke
#

Do you have your tick army assembled already?

uncut bough
#

that is a plan, i havent gotten to it

paper marsh
#

I want an on-demand tick army but it is rough without portals

uncut bough
#

besides that progress is only achieved in another coop server where i only tagged along, my lone server i am only in plains

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technically i could fight the Yagluth now but i want more iron

odd helm
#

Can't you portal with a tick that is already clung to you?

paper marsh
#

I love how overtuned ice dvergr are. On Normal I think they do 200 damage per shot 💀 , and they rapid fire

Mates are made of tuff stuff

uncut bough
#

i am not leaving without loading a longboat with max iron

paper marsh
odd helm
#

Oh, gotcha

wide zodiac
#

when is the next major update coming?

pliant hatch
#

soon

light moat
regal spoke
light moat
#

Finally got all three chests turned in to Hildir!

barren widget
#

Nicee

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Also, do the other mino bosses (excluding plains) despawn, because I cannot find the other 2 bosses after killing the first one and turning in the chest

paper marsh
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They do not despawn

desert tangle
#

so i finally gathered a bunch of fire arrows (well not really only 100) do you guys think its better i hunt trolls with these for troll armor before hitting up burial chamber? or do burial chamber first for sultring core?

light moat
#

Burial chamber first, in my opinion

desert tangle
#

is no armor fine? i do have stagbreaker

merry pebble
#

i usually also do chambers first, but you should bring at least leather armor i think 😄

barren widget
#

Depends on ur skills and difficulty

uncut bough
#

i watched on youtube how some valheim players can just tap on the bow and it is already fully drawn, is that a mod?

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like i doubt that even at level 100 it will be that, or it makes arbalest totally redundant

merry pebble
#

is it an old video? bows were insane at one point

uncut bough
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oh idk i didnt check the date

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but i guess, cuz there aren't too many recent videos

merry pebble
#

then it could be that, or some mod, currently i don´t think its really possible to "insta" draw even with 100 skill

uncut bough
#

man i wonder if i can build a chest with black metal

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i mean for me black metal is easy to obtain so it makes better chest building candidate then iron

merry pebble
uncut bough
#

no way, damn

merry pebble
#

i am not sure where you are in the game but i believe you are missing ||tar|| <-- click if you dont mind little spoiler 😄

uncut bough
#

i got 200 tars

merry pebble
#

then you should only need black metal 🤔

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to unlock it i mean

uncut bough
#

bloody hell 6 black metal???

merry pebble
#

not that much 😄 its everywhere

uncut bough
#

sure it is everywhere, just make sure to carry it home

merry pebble
#

yeah it could be pain sometimes

lunar ridge
#

My only gripe with blackmetal chests is that they are fugly

merry pebble
#

i don´t like the looks too much either so i stick with the reinforced ones 😄

desert tangle
#

high skill level makes the draw faster right?

lunar ridge
#

yep

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Archery is one of the more satisfying skills to level in the game because of how many benefits leveling it confers compared to others

merry pebble
#

yea, its really op 😄

lunar ridge
#

Also why the root set is goated

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But yeah black metal chests just do not match any aesthetic I typically build for, so I'm very okay with losing a few item slots, building a couple more chests, and having everything look squared away and homogeneous

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Once you get to Mistlands and start building with ||black marble|| that can change but until then, nawww.

paper marsh
lunar ridge
paper marsh
#

Yea its pretty decent

lunar ridge
#

And you're not getting smacked with fire(yet) so there's no real downside until plainy greenbois wanna say hi

paper marsh
#

I think the buffs on all the light armors are pretty nice, other than troll. Troll is still useable just very niche cases

lunar ridge
#

or if you're entering frost caves but.... dont lol

paper marsh
lunar ridge
#

Entering frost caves with root set?

paper marsh
#

Also surtling raids can still hurt

paper marsh
uncut bough
#

not in a million year would i think bread is a stamina food

oblique magnet
#

Ugh just seen a shadow in black forest with a stick

paper marsh
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If you really do go archer heavy tho I don't think fire in frost caves is much of a concern. You can just shoot enemies down before they get close. Such is the power of the overpowered bow

lunar ridge
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I thought it was very clear we were still discussing root armor, yes, obviously take it off when entering frost caves, and dont enter frost caves whilst trying to use root set....

uncut bough
oblique magnet
#

Gd or bad thing

uncut bough
#

bad thing

paper marsh
uncut bough
#

now u get +100% more raid

oblique magnet
#

Ooof

uncut bough
#

ok i was kidding

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it is just for cosmetic, nothing happens

lunar ridge
#

That black figure is Odin, he's just checking up on you and making sure you're good

uncut bough
#

shhould i invest in 2 baking oven?

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it is sooooo slow to wait for a batch of bread to bake

paper marsh
#

I also don't find root set to be dangerous in plains due to fire weakness, but more just due to low armor

Fire weakness can be whisked away with a fire resist, and even until then only fire guys are melee and there's clear visibility

lunar ridge
paper marsh
uncut bough
#

it takes more metals

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and i don't have metal to spare, not yet at least

lunar ridge
#

My usual issue with ovens is that I typically only account for 1 when designing my base so that's just a skill issue on my end

paper marsh
#

Then go with 1 for now and get 2 once you get a bunch of mistlands iron

oblique magnet
#

Lmao 🤣 it caught me off guard I was like wtf is that 😂

lunar ridge
#

Also I have a weird obsession with making sure my oven is always on and always topped up but they burn wood like it's their job so it's a struggle

oblique magnet
#

I ran up to it an poof it disappeared 🤣

paper marsh
#

ohhh wait nvm Odin

uncut bough
#

should i make a house for these wolves

paper marsh
#

Dog Kennel could be cute

uncut bough
#

i let them roam free the house, now they gave me 8 more wolves

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now i have 12 wolves loitering the house and i dont think my meat supply could keep up with their demand

lunar ridge
#

0/10, would never recommend

lunar ridge
paper marsh
#

Yea I agree root in frost caves is a no go unless you use fire resist. There's so many other options to use

I just usually find the cultists to be very predictable

lunar ridge
#

Cultists always, 100% open with fire that I've seen so yes very predictable

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and they stand still doing it lol

lunar ridge
#

Then they will multiply automatically through the process of defending hearth and home from pesky predators

uncut bough
#

bruh aint no way the wolves touched the fire from the hearth and it is burning

lunar ridge
#

Okay, maybe they aren't defending the hearth, but certainly the home?....

uncut bough
#

there isnt a bridge that i can lead them out to roam free, cuz nearby there is black forest and last time a troll found its way in and got killed by the wolv

paper marsh
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What I've started doing lately is just jumping over enemies when they attack, it's so funny. Like a cultists blasts you with fire just jump over him and stab him in the back

Some mobs do turn while attacking tho 💀

lunar ridge
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Which, fair enough

paper marsh
#

Gotta get that obliterator action going

lunar ridge
#

"oh look, a walking pile of coal has decided to pay me a visit"

uncut bough
paper marsh
#

I'm hoarding the troll hide I get just to be able to make backup gear for my server members if they die

paper marsh
lunar ridge
#

Have you tried, uh building one?

lunar ridge
paper marsh
#

Nice. Troll hide is kinda fun to sneak around with during a death retrieval

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I wanna try and get my sneak higher and really use it. Usually I don't sneak much

lunar ridge
#

troll hide + huntsmans is a solid combo I enjoy using

paper marsh
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Huntsman is by far my favorite bow. I will say tho, I'm warming up to crossbow from doing this bowless run

uncut bough
#

i dont build one cuz otherwise what is the point of building a trench

paper marsh
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Well you can build it, bring wolves out, destroy it

uncut bough
#

i am afraid that i cant keep track of their numbers and then lost count of it

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i know wolf 2 star is basically top of the food chains in Black forest or plains but idk

lunar ridge
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Having a bridge, but with 2 doors on either side to prevent enemies and allies from crossing when you wish for them not to

nocturne wolf
#

The best base defence is no defence. Killing enemies faster in a raid makes more respawn so I get more resources.

paper marsh
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I like to kill raid mobs for resources but it depends which ones

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Fulings? Hell yea. Trolls and bats? Hell no

nocturne wolf
#

It’s still fun to see how many trolls I can kill before I’m out of time though

paper marsh
#

Fact. My spear tears through them like butter

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I wonder if I could oneshot them with a headshot on normal

lunar ridge
#

the bat raid just feels like a giant waste of time lol

nocturne wolf
#

It’s a good source of leather after they inevitably kill all your boars

grizzled wing
paper marsh
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hmm my spears do a good chunk more damage than bone bolts. Crossbow skill aint high yet tho

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My real concern tho is if it could kill them without backstab or stagger

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Doesn't matter much tho. I'm not playing Normal

uncut bough
#

softsnail on his way to explains that spears are actually useful and totally stands shoulder to shoulder to the other weapons:

versed flame
#

...

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im just a tiny bit upset about krom's block armor

nocturne wolf
versed flame
#

i dont use spear so i cant speak for it's effectiveness

paper marsh
#

polearms are 3x as good as spears

lunar sapphire
paper marsh
#

Bows prob 5x as good

lunar sapphire
#

well, I started with atgeirs this time but gravitated towards swords

uncut bough
#

nah why yall put urself thru hell like that

lunar sapphire
#

Spears are fine as long as you don't throw them 😄

versed flame
paper marsh
lunar sapphire
#

Yep

nocturne wolf
paper marsh
#

Spears just have decent damage, attack fast, level hella fast, and can be used for range

paper marsh
#

Doing a “no rested” play through would be pain

lunar ridge
nocturne wolf
#

It would get very tiring

lunar ridge
#

Even from a mechanic standpoint it would be quite difficult to achieve since you would have to essentially never sleep, never be under shelter near a fire for too long, etc

desert tangle
#

cant wait to get out of this raft, so slooooooooooow ;(

nocturne wolf
ember panther
#

May aswell make it a no fire playthrough... Foraging only. Vegetarian

lunar ridge
azure yacht
#

And you'd be encouraged to get the best stamina food in the game (salad)

lunar ridge
nocturne wolf
#

But the stamina regen would be terrible without rested so every point would have to be used carefully

azure yacht
#

Oh no I was only talking about the vegetarian-only challenge

No sleep, or even more, no rest bonus is suicidal.

lunar ridge
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Ah, alright fair enough Ragnar_laugh

azure yacht
#

No sleep is just tediousness, no rest bonus is just... No

lunar ridge
#

Yeah vegetarian playthroughs are actually quite doable since agriculture and really good soups exists

plush umbra
#

?Ashlands

lunar ridge
plush umbra
#

Gosh darn it

lunar ridge
#

Ragnar_laugh All we know is 1st half of the year, so prior to july 1st

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IG is really cooking for Ashlands, I'm excited

plush umbra
#

Tell that to our brothers and sisters 13 years ago

lunar ridge
#

I'm not sure I know the significance of 2011

plush umbra
#

More like 2009

lunar ridge
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What's 2024 - 13 Ragnar_laugh

plush umbra
#

I ment 15 years ago

paper marsh
ember panther
#

What?

lunar ridge
#

Ah, I was like... Naw I'm not great at math but I know I'm not that far gone lol

#

But then, what's the significance of 2009?

plush umbra
#

I remember my boy picking barley and jamming out to tool like it was yesterday

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It's a secret

lunar ridge
#

Cryptic.

ember panther
#

Those were the days tbh

lunar ridge
#

Only game I can think of with barley picking in 2009 was Runescape

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Maybe Minecraft but that wasn't the full release yet

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Also never played Minecraft so Ragnar_laugh

plush umbra
#

Are there snilbog RuneScape?

desert tangle
nocturne wolf
#

Maybe you should make a base in or near a black forest?

desert tangle
#

yea already in the process of this

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but going back n forth to transfer my loot is a slog lol, using this time to cheat a little and look up a few tips n tricks for valheim in youtube :D

nocturne wolf
#

Tower shields can work well but as a new player it’s best you get used to parrying as soon as possible

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Also, you should make a flint axe if you still haven’t

lunar ridge
#

I would use tower shields like twice as much as I do now if they penalty was only -10% movespeed

nocturne wolf
#

Thats the biggest problem for me too, against most enemies, I dont mind losing parrying for the tiny stamina cost of blocking.

#

Their high knockback works incredibly well with knives

lunar ridge
#

But the movespeed cut is a massive gimp

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20% + 5% for most weapons, so 25% + another 10% if you're wearing heavy armor

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RIP swamps

nocturne wolf
#

Thats another reason they work so well with knives, and with the knives having a low stamina cost like the shield stamina management becomes so easy

lunar ridge
#

yeah, and if you're in a pickle I guess you could just knife secondary away lol

paper marsh
#

Move speed sucks but no parrying sucks more to me

lunar ridge
#

I almost exclusively use tower shields only if I'm fighting a boss, or playing co-op

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I'm gonna sword&board anyway, may as well make myself useful

paper marsh
#

Next time I play a Very Hard world I feel like I’m gonna dev command my block skill to 80. It’s just annoying not being able to parry

nocturne wolf
#

I still havent touched difficulty settings because my friends dont want to

lunar ridge
paper marsh
lunar ridge
#

So parrying with a wooden shield would still do peanuts even with high block

paper marsh
#

Yea

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Max block skill is +50% block armor. So you won’t be blocking stone golems with a wooden shield. But you might just be able to parry a skeleton

lunar ridge
#

Those super early game skeletons do hit different

paper marsh
#

Especially when they’re all running around with stars

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I can’t believe I had a body pile spawn 4 enemies and 3 of them were 2 star

ember bolt
#

Just turned raid world multiplier to highest and damn, I didn't expect that much

lunar ridge
#

I can, because that was me at one point with a nearly doomed death run fiesta

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I did manage to body recover but it took a significant amount of praying to Lady Luck, swearing and a few smoke breaks lol

plush umbra
#

I freaking love the fog while serpent hunting. It's so beautiful not being able to see them for the 3rd night in a row 🤬

pliant hatch
#

Yeah well, those serpents need a chance too, you know. 😄

pliant hatch
#

Not dead.

Just not as active because lots of discord members are sleeping atm.

frozen void
#

it's almost 4am Shrug

paper marsh
#

Might need to go to bed soon Larsi

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(Although I stay up late too)

pliant hatch
#

Well, this was the last comment:

I freaking love the fog while serpent hunting. It's so beautiful not being able to see them for the 3rd night in a row 🤬

So I dunno if you can add anything to that?
Perhaps a hint or tip how to deal with it?
Perhaps some epic story you experienced when hunting serpents in the fog?

paper marsh
#

Hmm I just realized bow skill might not be the best scaling skill

#

Fishing gets hella buffs from levelling

pliant hatch
#

Well, in a way in the BF the moment you find Haldor.

paper marsh
#

Black Forest

pliant hatch
#

But you can fish in any biome

paper marsh
#

Well he sells a fishing rod and bait

pliant hatch
#

So you never got that nice belt he offers?

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And if you didn't, how the heck have you been hauling all the ores all this time?

pliant hatch
#

And how have you been transporting ores?

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Using carts at your base as well?

paper marsh
#

damn fuling brutes wreck my stone walls so quick. I really gotta double my efforts to set up a marble wall

digital nexus
#

Guys, is there a way to put shields on the side of the longship?

paper marsh
#

No, but it's been suggested many times\

digital nexus
#

quite sad...

paper marsh
#

true but it's like a 15 second run out there, plus sometimes I'm not rested and they're annoying to fight without rest

half dragon
#

a bit more active at specific times of day because players are not evenly distributed around the world

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just make it so they cannot damage your walls. Even a few meters deep moat is enough to prevent them from walking to your walls as long the moat is steep enough

paper marsh
#

But whats the point of a raid if you don't let the mobs at least attempt to - raid?

nocturne wolf
#

It’s missing out on free materials

exotic cradle
#

free delivery!

half dragon
#

I hate raids. They always happen when I don't want them. Just let me smelt my shit in peace

dense steppe
unkempt eagle
#

So we played and completed all the content when valheim first released. Now we want to play again with mods this time . Which modpack would you guys recommend ? Im trying to decide between relicheim, jewelheim and epicvalheim

half dragon
#

my recommendation would be unmodded again 🤷‍♂️

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Especially if haven't played since multiple big updates came out

#

The only mod that I honestly believe is needed is the one that forces farmed plants into a grid to prevent them being too close to each other. I almost lost my mind when I was mass farming stuff and many of the plants constantly got unhealthy being too close to each other

#

I honestly can't believe that isn't a feature...

rain flare
half dragon
#

can imagine. Ngl I'm not sure if I'll make a base in mistlands, but probably will at least make an outpost there

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just loving plains too much

exotic cradle
#

Misltands bases>all bases

rain flare
#

Mistlands is just too good to pass up my guy

#

Excessive difficulty in making but extraordinarily and satisfactarily satisfying to accomplish! 🤩🥰🥳

#

And yes I know that is not a word - bear with me 😂

charred lake
#

Awesome! Leviathan capsized and destroyed my boat.

dense steppe
charred lake
#

Don't mine barnakles in storm(

wicked snow
#

man I hope the ash comes before june

rustic compass
#

wait you can capsize a boat?

#

dont think I've ever had that happen

dense steppe
wicked snow
#

when I was a noob I got my boat smashed by a deathsquito

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not knowing that the bugger is one spit away from dying, in my mind it was like Nooooo plains creature RUN AWAY

charred lake
silk rivet
uncut bough
#

dear god i just saw 3 tar growth easily killed a 1 star fulings beserker

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i know tar growth are dangerous but damn i am not touching that in close range

fallen zephyr
light moat
#

All the mistlands weapons seem so cool, I really want to try out Jotun Bane

frigid gust
half dragon
#

don't suppose there is a single way to drake proof your stuff in the mountains?

latent wraith
#

Same as everywhere else, spawn proof the area with base items.

half dragon
#

that's not everywhere else. Everywhere else it's sufficient to just have a moat or wall to prevent them coming to your home and make sure the base is spawn proof...

light moat
#

Really appreciate that 2-star hares are white rabbits, they look so neat! I just want to trap it and bring it back to base lol

paper marsh
uncut bough
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As drake proof as it gets

paper marsh
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Do you guys think deep north will have weapon gaps like other biomes, or have everything because it’s the last biome?

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I kinda wish DN would skip sword, sword is currently in every biome but meadows and I think sword users need to be taken down a notch

light moat
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I actually imagine not only will it have all weapon types, but maybe even multiple choices of the same weapon type. Since it is the last biome, I’d imagine there would be a plethora of options. Maybe even a third armor option or so?

Clubs are in every single biome haha but yeah, minus meadows sword is also an option in every biome. If you’re like me and consider the meadows a tutorial, then you might consider the sword having an option every biome.

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Hmm isn’t axe also available in every biome? I guess to be fair, the crystal battleaxe is a two handed weapon.

lunar ridge
paper marsh
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I think Axe, and knife are the only weapons that are in every biome. Axe is understandable because it's used for wood, knife could use a skip tho.

Clubs don't have a BF or Plains variant do they?

lunar ridge
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Needle club, bronze mace.

paper marsh
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bronze mace is a mace

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I thought the spiked one was a mace but I could be wrong

light moat
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Yeah, Porcupine and bronze mace. Mace uses club skill.

lunar ridge
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uhhh..... mace = club.

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It's the weapon type.

paper marsh
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Hmm mayhaps I am stupid. I thought there used to be an actual mace skill

lunar ridge
light moat
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Nope, only club skill 🙂

paper marsh
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Shows how much I use maces lol

lunar ridge
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Even the mauls use the same club skill

uncut bough
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I wish they will add more overpowered bow so people would write a 1000 words essay over how bows are broken and everyone need to relearn melee combat

lunar ridge
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Currently bows offer, far and away the most options if you take into consideration all the bows + all the ammo available

paper marsh
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Bows is all upsides other than having to make ammo for them

lunar ridge
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But fire sword is locked behind dev command spawn even though it isn't even that strong Ragnar_laugh

uncut bough
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Bows are OP people when they see sea serpent ( they must sail away or fight it with melee like real worthy warrior that valhalla will take)

light moat
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Clubs are crazy represented, think it’s something like;
Meadows: 3
Black Forest: 1
Swamp: 2
Mountain: 1 (but Frostner is crazy good)
Plains: 1
Mistalnds: I think 1?

paper marsh
lunar ridge
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It freaking better, it's the Ashlands! If no real fire sword, I riot.

paper marsh
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oh Torch is a club

lunar ridge
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torch(technically.....), regular club, stagbreaker

uncut bough
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I want the devs to give us end game bow that instantly charges with just a tap of a button and the trajectory is similar to arbalest, meaning point and click

light moat
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Meadows has club, torch, and stagbreaker… if you consider stagbreaker meadows tier. Might be BF

lunar ridge
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Can make stag with 100% meadows drops

paper marsh
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Yea they're represented very highly and are probably THE most useful damage type (of physical damage at least, and then one gets frost too)

merry pebble
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ah, i didnt really considered sledges clubs 😄

paper marsh
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I'll say I do really like torches

lunar ridge
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I don't immediately consider it but, it's the same skill used, so you get benefit from switching to mauls at least if you're already a mace/club user

light moat
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I will admit, it is a stretch to call the torch a weapon/club, but 🤓TeChNiCalLy it is.

paper marsh
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nah I think it's fair, it's pretty useful

lunar ridge
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I call it the fire mace lol

paper marsh
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A stretch would more be calling butchers knife a knife because it isn't used for real combat

light moat
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Right, I personally consider it a weapon because it’s actually pretty useful (the torch) as a weapon

lunar ridge
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Either way, until bow gets dropped down like 3 pegs I don't wanna hear anyone complain about swords being too strong lol

halcyon thistle
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why is abyssal razor considered swamp tier? damage value only? because you can get it as soon as you get a pickaxe

paper marsh
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I'm okay with swords. They could lose the (I believe bugged) no cleave penalty but swords are in a pretty good spot. Just odd they don't skip tiers like most other weapons

lunar ridge
paper marsh
paper marsh
halcyon thistle
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being here a lot

lunar ridge
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It's been stated, the no nerfed cleave was intended

light moat
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Dumb question… but what do y’all mean by cleave?

lunar ridge
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attacks hitting multiple targets at once

light moat
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Ahh gotcha

paper marsh
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hmm one of the helpers the other day was speculating it was bugged saying it was added in Mistlands update along with Krom and thought that was why. Suppose they hadn't heard devs say otherwise

lunar ridge
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Cleave damage was the same well before mistlands for swords

halcyon thistle
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but for some cases, for balance, they made it so they are still viable in tight spaces

lunar ridge
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yep. 2 targets usually 50% each, 3 targets usually 33% each etc.

halcyon thistle
light moat
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So the bow gets a gap in progression, as well as the aetgir. What other weapon types? I guess fist weapons… but I feel like that’s a unique case.

lunar ridge
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Due to the nature of the sword attack animation, unless you spammed secondary it'd be very difficult to target only 1 enemy which is why I believe they gave it full cleave damage

lunar ridge
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But, they're devs. they could have made sword animation different if that were the problem, so I believe it was intended from conception

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Also, considering how ammo works I don't think bows really get a progression skip

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both blackmetal and needle ammo in the plains even when the plains don't have a specific bow

light moat
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Is there blackmetal ammo for bows? Thought it was only bolts?

halcyon thistle
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only bolts

lunar ridge
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oh, only bolts my bad yeah was thinking of bolts i guess

halcyon thistle
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and missiles, but that's not plains

half dragon
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I guess biggest gap of no weapon would be unarmed? TrophyFrostTroll

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or "fists"

lunar ridge
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BuT yOu AlWayS HaVe YoUr FiSTs

halcyon thistle
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and you do progress them

half dragon
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I AM THE WEAPON!

lunar ridge
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You know what would be really cool? If they amped the unarmed skill gain like crazy so that it was viable throughout the game. Think about it. Your character is gigajacked.

halcyon thistle
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each boss giving you damage bonus

paper marsh
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man I wish. So many times I've hit enemies with a sliver of health left or a deathsquito or something and fists just don't cut it

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I rly wish deathsquitoes had less health

light moat
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Deathsquitos trophies as fist weapons 😂

lunar ridge
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Seeker mandibles as fist weapons, too

paper marsh
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Ashlands gotta have a fist weapon right? ... RIGHT!?!?

lunar ridge
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Then Charred skull cesti?

halcyon thistle
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pelvis bone

paper marsh
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ngl tho so pumped for my axe skill to be useful in ashlands

lunar ridge
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Jotun Bane is pretty good isn't it?

halcyon thistle
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nope

lunar ridge
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I've never gone out of my way to even build it, so

halcyon thistle
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poison is bad, that's all

light moat
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Bummer, was looking to make it soon 😅

lunar ridge
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you could 100% still make it for a wall decoration, it does look cool

half dragon
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deer head fist weapon when? that's pretty metal

halcyon thistle
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as soon as poison stacks or does something different, it's gonna be good

paper marsh
# light moat Bummer, was looking to make it soon 😅

Go for your dreams!

But yea its not great. Axes already are slightly below other weapons, and the poison makes it less good for cutting while still costing a lot of stamina and also poison doesn't stack so some of the damage is wasted if rapid firing an enemy

light moat
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Wonder how much refined Eitr will be used in the next couple biomes after mistlands. It’s slightly odd to me that you need it for carapace armor lol

paper marsh
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I feel like blobs are the reason poison doesn't stack. Although they could make it stackable for players

lunar ridge
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About as much as you ended up needing thread for pretty much only padded armor lol

paper marsh
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threads also used for a lot of the weapons and the lox saddle

halcyon thistle
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and the linen cape

lunar ridge
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Linen cape is a meme though unfortunately

paper marsh
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also why is the blackmetal pickaxe so expensive to upgrade? 105 blackmetal is crazy compared to other stuff

half dragon
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unironically, the most reliable strat I've noticed for oozers is just smack it with a mace and ignore the poison (if you have resist from mask) and just keep smacking. what's that second poisoning going to do, poison you again?

lunar ridge
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They added it on mistlands, didn't they? Prior to mistlands there was no blackmetal pick so maybe that's why, but still dosn't make much sense

light moat
paper marsh
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Yea I pretty much never bother with blunt damage for oozers/blobs. They die easily to anything and can hardly hurt you if you have poison resist

half dragon
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oozer poison is still pretty dangerous even with that root mask, but getting poisoned once is't a big deal. just kill it quickly and you won't get damaged much

halcyon thistle
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plus it's pretty black

half dragon
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same. or at least that is my plan.... no plains yet

lunar ridge
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It's pretty much a cosmetic only

halcyon thistle
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all capes give same armor

lunar ridge
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nope

half dragon
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yes...

light moat
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Linen cape is for drip 🤌

half dragon
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just check the wiki before you say anything further...

paper marsh
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No Feather cape maxes out at 3 armor I believe (currently), while all other capes I know of goes to 4

half dragon
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well... technically yes. it will get that level 4 eventually tho

lunar ridge
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Ah I was checking the wiki, was looking at the workbench tier required though Ragnar_laugh

halcyon thistle
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same base armor that's for sure

light moat
lunar ridge
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Coulda sworn capes used to have differences in armor though

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Even if they did, glad they changed it because now you can wear whatever cape you wish

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Except troll hide cape, or feather cape I guess

light moat
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I used to think troll cape had more armor than the deer cape

half dragon
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if it looks cooler, it musst be stronger

lunar ridge
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I swear it used to have +1 armor, maybe I'm going senile though

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by that logic feather cape should give +10 armor Ragnar_laugh

half dragon
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so far liking fenris armpit hair hunt for my armor. far more interesting than relying on RNG for trolls or abominations to spawn

light moat
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Yeah, pillaging frost caves is still probably my favorite thing in the game. I think the frost caves are the best dungeons.

half dragon
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that fire is pretty brutal to me though... full root set 😂

lunar ridge
half dragon
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just don't get hit, ez

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surprisingly haven't died yet, cleared 2 caves

lunar ridge
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Root set in frost caves gives me night terrors just imagining

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get 1 fire dot, actually game over

half dragon
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with good food you'll survive once... just don't get burned 2nd time for a while

lunar ridge
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You probably use bows though

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So shouldn't usually be in range of fire attack

half dragon
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Atgeir. I only use bow to start combat for a few free kills

lunar ridge
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Welp...

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I can't tell if brave or psychotic

pliant hatch
# lunar ridge You probably use bows though

Bows aren't much good in the cramped frost caves where Fenris cultists live.
Too many corners for them to hide behind, making it easy to get you with their fire attack the moment they see you.

lunar ridge
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they all file through the doorway and it's ez pickins'

paper marsh
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I actually ended up throwing my spears for most my frost caves. One shot the ulvs, hurt the cultists real bad

And I didn’t want them touching me cuz they could 2 shot me even on triple health food

chilly forge
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Hoping we get 1m pieces for darkwood and possibly log beams

copper lotus
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some steeper degree beams and roofing, maybe like a triangle shaped stairs to fill in sides if ur trying to guide 3 with stairs into a single doorway

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like a corner stair piece

pliant hatch
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38 minutes to capture a serpent while using a Karve.
Bloody thing kept turning away from the coast the moment I tried to harpoon it.

paper marsh
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Now you have a serpent pet for life tho!

pliant hatch
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Nope, only some meat and scales

paper marsh
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ah, capture and kill

pliant hatch
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yup.

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Problem was, I had an area prepared, but it was night before I managed to get it on the shore.
And at that points, Greydwarfs and Greylings decided it was nice to attack me, instead of the serpent.
So it escaped, I had to lure it back, took me 3 attempts to get it on the shore again - this time in daytime - and had it attacked by boars and necks. But at least it got killed in shallow water, so I could retreive everything.

kind pendant
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Just got you are being hunted directly next to a fuling village

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Can I kite the wolfs into the fulings and berserkers to attack them?

light moat
kind pendant
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I’m just thinking about what to do next lol

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I was thinking jump on a house while they deal with eachother??

light moat
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Yeah, they should fight each other! That’s not a bad idea.

kind pendant
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Alright I’ll just get bonemass up and jump onto a house now lol

light moat
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Just be careful, because it’s very possible to get overwhelmed.

kind pendant
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True, there’s a pretty big house I can hop on so I hope that’ll work

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Half the village is just debris now 😂

paper marsh
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damn son my spear does almost 1000 damage to a gjall on a sneak attack

versed parcel
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Hey guys, what's your experience with spears and knives? I did one playthrough back in summer with a buddy, but I'll do another one once Ashlands drops. I did polearms/swords last time, so I wanna try maining something else this time.

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I'm thinking if I go with knives I'll probably go with the alternative armor sets too

desert tangle
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bows and knives? ;p

versed parcel
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I always used them anyway as a secondary

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So, how are spears? How are knives? How fun is it to play either of these, etc?

odd helm
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I will vouch for knives.

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Fast attack speed, good damage spread between slash and pierce makes them viable across most mobs, and attack animations are fast enough that you can dodgeroll between attacks more reliably compared to other weapons.

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They also have a pretty good parry multiplier by themselves, so they don't need a shield - but also pair fantastically with a buckler.

light moat
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Also, don’t knives have some sort of prey bonus? Saw it on the wiki earlier, thought it was interesting.
Edit: ah, yep, as Scarlet said above.

half dragon
half flax
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Knife sneak attack

half dragon
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also you can take on some enemies relatively safely with the spear by spamming the throw attack and picking it up... not most effective way to win a fight but it works

uncut bough
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what is yggdrasil shoot

strange arrow
merry pebble
versed parcel
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Troll hide etc
Maybe I'll do spears on my third playthrough (deep north clearly)

half dragon
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I've started considering is there even need to start completely fresh to try something new. Think I'll have multiple characters to use in the same world and have them use different builds. That allows skipping some boring parts of the game but still have mostly the early and mid game experience with that different build

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biggest problem being limited resources...

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you'll eventually run out of copper and tin to mine, crypts to raid, silver to unearth, but not black metal. No clue about mistlands since it wasn't a thing back when I first played

uncut bough
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to mine all THAT copper and tin will cost you a lot of times

paper marsh
uncut bough
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like sure u can make the case that the area near you will deplete of copper and tin, but then there is always the option to knock over the standing brazen in frost caves to have a chance to get bronze

ember panther
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i don't think it's feasible to mine out and explore every crypt or deposit

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there are SO MANY

half dragon
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all the tin and copper in a reasonably accessable location though? unless you always go for troll hide and low quality weapons/tools 2nd one is probably enough to mine all the tin and copper in your first island

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depends on seed tho

ember panther
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everything is accessable when you bring a forge

uncut bough
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devs gave u Karve so u get to other place to mine copper

halcyon blade
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You would pretty much have to not progress or go out exploring if running out of limited resources is a problem.

half dragon
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after getting some copper first... but I guess can just give a longboat to use for new charas to make the start a bit more bearable

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alternatively could give yourself different kind of rules for progression, such as get a skill to specific level to allow yourself to use specific tier tools/weapons/armor crafted by the first chara

ember panther
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i kinda want to try a skeleton only plathrough

paper marsh
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sounds boring

exotic cradle
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harsh

sage dock
half dragon
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you could have all the way up to black metal on first island

paper marsh
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Eitr can't be on first island?

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I'd assume you can get all biomes currently, and once ashlands and deep north come out I believe those will deliberately be seperated by water

dark cosmos
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hey yall

half dragon
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Mistlands generates quite far away. For Mistlands to be connected to the first Island that island would have to be quite damn long

paper marsh
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Yea but I think its totally possible. I don't think theres any gamerules to place water between mistlands and starting island

latent wraith
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It's rare but it happens. Ashlands can be on the starting island now, but that will change when the biome is updated.

half dragon
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That is so unlikely that you'd almost certainly would have to look up a seed for that. Might as well try lottery if you expect that to happen randomly

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while checking seed generator for random seeds even plains is pretty rare

paper marsh
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agreed

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I pretty much always sail for a good location to raid swamp and above

half dragon
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my first save was quite lucky. up to swamps had no need to sail at all... but then again not that great. The distance on land was quite damn long and constantly had to relocate my base to be closer to the current biome

paper marsh
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I like sailing. Able to scout swamps to see if they have crypts, and then find some nearby meadows (hopefully by a mountain too) to set up base. Ez transport of iron and silver

half dragon
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these days also prefer sailing for swamp

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found really damn good swamp the day before. There's only 2 crypts, but 7 fire geysers in relatively small swamp, 2 of them even next to each other, about 8-10 meters apart. I setup a sprinting course to run through those geysers to collect coal

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No more need for kilns

rustic compass
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uhmm I cant make butchers table any ideas

paper marsh
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got silver and ancient bark?

merry pebble
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you need: Ancient bark x2
Core wood x4
Fine wood x4
Silver x2

rustic compass
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I know what I need but I found the issue haha sorry

latent wraith
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My sacrifices have been found acceptable. I went on a sailing trip to the nearest swamp to my base which is about 5 minutes sailing with good wind. I had good wind going there and good wind back again. \o/

frigid gust
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RNGesus approves of your worship

half dragon
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so often the game just knows the exact direction you're going to sail, and make it blow the exact opposite direction 😂

uncut bough
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man it is such a chore to find black metal

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it is easy, but acquiring it, either over fulings dead body, or in their camp, which also means over their more dead body, is the tough part

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then after a skirmish or 2 it is already afternoon and i had to run the metal back to the portal, put it in chest and wait till next time i get the boat

paper marsh
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I love getting black metal. Feels easier and more fun to me than other metals, especially bc it respawns right by my base and sometimes it even raids my base

dense rapids
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The problem with black metal is... it doesn't fit in our storage anymore

paper marsh
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Gotta make some more ballistas

dense rapids
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They aren't really usefull in my opinion

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Probably for a big part because I've never tested them properly

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But since the last time one killed me they ended up in my book of tech I don't like.

paper marsh
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Yea fair I haven’t used them much either but I’m gonna start to

dense rapids
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They are so slow..

paper marsh
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I wouldnt leave ballistas on target player mode anywhere in my base. Maybe except if they’re up real high for air defense

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They’re slow but if you have a few at different angles they should be able to take out enemies banging on your walls

dense rapids
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Our home base doesn't get raided by anything flying other than bats..and those don't have a trophy so you cant target them

paper marsh
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Yea I mainly use them for ground defense too

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I think currently the only air defense they’re worth it for is Gjall

dense rapids
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In one of out mistland bases we have a bunch of them aiming at both seekers and gjall

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but they don't really help

paper marsh
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Sadge

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The bear traps immobilize targets right? Probably a good combo doing bear trap ballista

dense rapids
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Havent actually ever used those

paper marsh
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I’ve barely used them so can’t say much about them. Other than that they hurt to step in

lunar ridge
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Okay.... I think I'm finally finished with my pre-plains base. I'm quite happy with how it turned out. Anyone want to see?

dense rapids
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Tell me about your storage solution 😄

light moat
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I browse Valheim content and the wiki while my baby sleeps in my arms lol

lunar ridge
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Alright lemme turn onn multiserver real quick

dense rapids
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I tried using skyrim music to get our baby to sleep. Didn't work, but at least it was good music 😄

paper marsh
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I meant just screenshots, not able to join rn

lunar ridge
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awww...

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alright let me get started on the screenies then Ragnar_laugh

hidden gorge
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they don't ever pose any risk of danger, they are just more annyoing than anything

light moat
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@frigid gust Responding to your take on magic in suggestion discussions, I’m like right on your tail- the magic staves are what I want to make next lol. Just gotta find more black cores… trying not to swap between the crafting stations, but I just might have to.

dense rapids
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So far I've only had bats raid once, even though they could have come for a long time already

light moat
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Bats, the slayers of chickens.

pliant hatch
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and boar and wolf

hidden gorge
light moat
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I’m trying hard to avoid that, but I’m getting pretty unlucky in these mines lol.

hidden gorge
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its horrible

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especially when you find literally none

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zero

light moat
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I wouldn’t be opposed to the crafting stations requiring less black cores, but more black metal/refined Eitr. But maybe we’re both just really unlucky lol it’s only my first time experiencing the mistlands after all.

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The infested mines are interesting and challenging! But man, nothing tops the frost caves imo, just so good.

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Why are there so many sausages in the mines LOL I crack up every time I see them

pliant hatch
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Or a more pleasant thought:

And what did you think the Dverger ate?
They may as well been made from seeker intestines, hare meat and yotun puff.

light moat
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Hmm would seekers have intestines? Since they’re bugs? 😅

pliant hatch
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bugs do, so I'm sure seekers do too

light moat
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Huh, learned something new today!

uncut bough
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well i am very impatient with going to plains and farm black metals, so imma just toggle the raid to more often and wait for fulings raid

languid root