valheim-chat

[candid basalt]

Freedom in Valheim tastes like muckshakes in a warm meadow

[fallen zephyr]

Is it ironic to use Alanis Morrisette's song called 'Ironic' as an example of irony?

[rustic schooner]

no it's just priggish

[candid basalt]

Ironically, I enjoy the song

Reminds me of my early 20s

[fallen zephyr]

I remember having way too many forks and all I wanted was a spoon. I felt so priggish.

[vocal rivet]

Is ModMail down?

[candid basalt]

No they just ghosting you

[vocal rivet]

That's... not how that works.

[near furnace]

Hm..?

[fair cairn]

what would the comfort be for mountain tier?
14 with the yule tree?

[near furnace]

people talking off-topic again?

[fallen zephyr]

Have you tried GothMail? Or maybe EmoMail?

[vocal rivet]

No, because they don't exist.

[candid basalt]

Hugin mail

He always has messages for me

[vocal rivet]

Didn't get the usual pick the server options.

[languid root]

They are all down for sure

[strange arrow]

sadmail

also down

[fallen zephyr]

Sometimes I appreciate your sense of humour. Sometimes you just baffle me.

[languid root]

I try and address them every day. No response

[vocal rivet]

There was no attempt at humour.

[merry pebble]

i have 14 without sesonal items and i don´t have even all the normal comfort stuff, so its not max

[fallen zephyr]

<-- Baffled.

[fair cairn]

do the rugs/carpets stack? or would 1 throne and 1 carpet give 1 comfort each?

[vocal rivet]

By what? There's nothing to be baffled BY.

[merry pebble]

no, but better table for example gives more comfort than basic one
same thing with throne iirc

[hollow wing]

are you able to plant turnip etc in plains?

[fallen zephyr]

A while ago the devs changed the way things stack in terms of comfort. IIRC, the maximum has been reduced, and you can't stack things like different rugs (e.g. wolf & lox).

[merry pebble]

yes, you can plant anything there exept mistlands stuff

[rustic schooner]

ironically, hilarious

[languid root]

I think this is the baffling part for him

[rustic schooner]

alanis morissette should write a song about that

[strange arrow]

hear hear

[bitter crest]

Sorry that I don't know much but do you get paid more if it's outside your work hours?

[fallen zephyr]

You work outside of your work hours? I'm so sorry.

[opal prairie]

Exactly, double on a weekday night, triple in the weekend.

[opal prairie]

Hardly ever happens but it happens sometimes, about max 3 times a year though.

[hollow wing]

okay great thought it might be biome specific

[fallen zephyr]

Vegetables are biome specific, but plains might be the best biome for variety.

[merry pebble]

what?

[warm loom]

Day three sending almighty Odin a poem until he deems fit to release the ashlands:

In the ashlands' glow, a vibrant sight,
Where flames dance high, like stars at night.
A new frontier, both bold and grand,
A realm to explore, with open hand.

Amidst the ash, adventure gleams,
A place where dreams become extremes.
With every step, a tale unfolds,
In ashlands' realm, where wonder holds.

In fiery hues, the landscape gleams,
A painter's dream, beyond all schemes.
Where fiery rivers gently flow,
And embered meadows brightly glow.

Oh, what wonders lie in wait,
In ashlands' grasp, our hearts elate.
For in this land of warmth and light,
We'll find new wonders, shining bright.

So let us don our armor strong,
And sing our songs, with joyful song.
For in the ashlands, we'll explore,
And find the riches, we adore.

[fallen zephyr]

You can't grow everything everywhere. Is that confusing?

[fair cairn]

well im missing something for sure, cant get past 14 comfort in the mountain tier, unless the frost caves are hiding more decorations

[merry pebble]

you can grow everything there apart from mistlands stuff, as i said...

[fair cairn]

you can grow everything in the plains except for mistlands stuff

you can grow from carrots to onions in the meadows

[vocal rivet]

Apparently everything is confusing at the moment.

[fallen zephyr]

So, how does any of that defy what I said?

[strange arrow]

posting a text wall mid convo:

[fair cairn]

how does what asatru typed defy anything?

[heady parcel]

As far as I knows carrots, turnips and onions will grow anywhere, the others are specific to their respective biomes

[fair cairn]

pretty sure nothing grows in the mountains

[strange arrow]

do they grow in swamp?

[heady parcel]

I've never even tried, but that does make sense

[opal prairie]

This is the best one so far in my opinion.

[latent wraith]

Only turnips grow in the swamp.

[fallen zephyr]

14 seems low. I'm no expert, but I might be able to help. I'm going to login and get back to you.

[heady parcel]

And shrooms and thistle, but we can't plant those 😦

[warm loom]

only going up from here, probably doing one for each biome next

[hollow wing]

i'd used Plant Everything mod when i first started, planted some mushrooms. thing's still respwaning even though i dont use the mod

[strange arrow]

like my suggestion 🙂

[fair cairn]

does the armor stand give comfort? it may be to far away now that i think about it

[heady parcel]

Yes

[strange arrow]

1 yes

[bitter crest]

assuring to hear

[opal prairie]

They will grow in meadows and plains, meadows won't grow barley, nor flax, which the plains does grow, so you can have 5 crops in the plains while other biomes have max 3, most have less than 3.

[fallen zephyr]

https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Comfort ...I can't help you better than this.

[heady parcel]

Not that I am fond of the idea of setting up my kitchen garden in the Mistlands, but do only the local shrooms grow there then?

[strange arrow]

indeed

[opal prairie]

Correct, magecap and jotun puff only in the mistlands.

[fallen zephyr]

I'm pretty sure you can't plant mushrooms prior to Mistlands.

[fair cairn]

well, builta second one, that did not help wiki it is

[heady parcel]

I doubt I'd ever plant a carrot there, but good to know all the same 😄

[strange arrow]

a garden with a portal is enough you don't need a lot of infrastructure, spawnproofing can help somewhat but time consuming

better to just deal with threats that come at you while yr there

[prime fjord]

can mobs see through wood walls?

[toxic rose]

No, you could, but you almost can't do anything with them

[strange arrow]

nope

[opal prairie]

Having a base on a plains and mistland border is the best for a farm, you can use the mistland side for the shrooms and the plains for all the rest.
You could also make a shroom farm in the mistlands with a portal connected to the plains farm.

[toxic rose]

Only event mobs, and only players

[candid basalt]

They can hear you, however

[fallen zephyr]

Which pre-mistlands mushroom are you planting?

[prime fjord]

i got two layers of campfires though for spawn proofing

[fair cairn]

if i built a raven throne and a chair, the comfort would be overidden by the higher comfort item, right?

[heady parcel]

My first playthrough I found a beautiful, very narrow strip of mistlands slicing through a bit of plains. It had ground that could be cultivated, an yggdrasil root and hares spawning everywhere - but it was apparently too small for any of the more dangerous types. The hares kept getting whacked by fulings and deathsqitoes so I barely ever had to hunt them myself, and my shroom plantation only needed a palisade to stop stray fulings from getting in - and the extractor was inside and hidden. Awesome place, I miss it...

[toxic rose]

I mean plant mistlands mushroom before reaching mistlands stage

[strange arrow]

the red and white spotty one that makes you grow twice the size

[fair cairn]

well, wiki says max comfort is 13 for mountain, so.... well. i have 14 so thats with the yule tree, i did not miss anything then wellp

[fallen zephyr]

I believe so. Some of the furniture used to stack, but I think we're now restricted to the highest bonus.

[fallen zephyr]

Are you a mechanic or a plumber?

[strange arrow]

mama mia

[opal prairie]

That sounds lovely, maybe check the seed and try and refind it.

[fair cairn]

and it did not matter if i built the raven throne or stone throne, both give the same comfort 😦

[opal prairie]

Mama miracoli.

[heady parcel]

The seed is from release, if I generate a new world from it the biome map is different, sadly 😦

[opal prairie]

Sad to hear that. Rest in piece glorious tiny mistland spot. You will be missed.

[fallen zephyr]

You should probably decide, because the hourly rate is significantly different.

[toxic rose]

I like my mistlands base, 7 yggdrasil roots in ~10 meters radius

[strange arrow]

neither is an option but bring me either and i can probably tell what's wrong with it xD

[heady parcel]

Sounds very convenient!

[fallen zephyr]

Really? 10m in not a long way. I'd envy you if true, but I'm sceptical.

[opal prairie]

That is very convenient.

[toxic rose]

A few of them are texture within texture. It was fun to see this

[near inlet]

is it still more "efficient" to stack a bunch of extractors on one root. I can't remembwr

[heady parcel]

Since it dries up quickly even with one I can't imagine makes a lot of difference, unless you need that first batch very quickly

[near inlet]

no, in that extractors still pull sap when the root is "dried up," and iirc it used to be that all extractors on a root would still pull at the same rate even if the "dried up" rate

so a certain number of extractors on even a dried up root would beat the output of running around to a bunch of different distributed ones

[heady parcel]

Aaah right, sounds like an exploit that would get fixed eventually

[toxic rose]

I don't have so many extractors for this

[near inlet]

well exactly, that's the downfall in that it has to be like 5 extractors or somethinf

[toxic rose]

It would be interesting to find the formulas for the speed of work and regeneration

[near inlet]

I also wonder what the formula is for Y number of roots that you'd have to distribute X number of extractors around in order for no root to ever become "dried up"

[rustic schooner]

why are they called buildings, when they're already finished?

that's what i wonder about

[red root]

Guyssss new update with Ashlands with weapons and monsters!!! Is that true?

[uncut bough]

!true

[novel imp]

Well its March 1, tis the month for Ashland update. Any day now.

[uncut bough]

~true

[merry pebble]

we never got any info about month ashlands will be released in, only information we have is that they will be out in first half of this year

[toxic rose]

Yes, it's could be even July 15

[red root]

So its true??????

[toxic rose]

Just watch dev posts and videos

[novel imp]

oh youre right, I thought it said First quarter, but it really is quite vague at first half. 😦

[merry pebble]

that ashlands will be out in this half of the year? yes. that they will be out in march? we have no idea

[strange arrow]

30 days to find out

[cyan trail]

I missed the bees.

[timber sky]

how to make portals work, cuz i set same tag for both of em

[plush umbra]

are you sure it's the exact same characters? it's case-sensitive

[cyan trail]

Don't carry raw metals. (Unless you've changed the setting for that.)

[toxic rose]

And you should wait 5-10 seconds. Also it didn't glow when you have some "forbidden" things

[timber sky]

yep

[tardy horizon]

Is true what?

[plush umbra]

no excess space or anything?

[toxic rose]

Mb you trying to connect with 3rd portal?

[timber sky]

nah

i got 1 in my main base, second one in my shelter

[toxic rose]

It it was in safe area? Because someone could destroy it

[timber sky]

yeah

[toxic rose]

Try to use ctrl+c/v, or even remain field empty for both of them

[worthy heron]

Portal names are case -sensitive. I always write them in a text file list and copy and paste them.

[odd marsh]

I usually just name them after the biome that they are in

[toxic rose]

If you still will have problems, post screenshots of both portal settings i.e. to #valheim-help

[worthy heron]

Call me picky, but I'd love to have a few more icons to choose from on the map screen when I'm labelling stuff.

[toxic rose]

Oh, yes, mb in world settings portals was completely disabled?

[odd marsh]

Yea sammeee, what if. We could draw on the map

[merry pebble]

i ususally dont even use them all, dots can take care of lot of stuff 😄

[light moat]

I’d just like a boat icon haha I use all the icons for a few different reasons. Being able to hide icons is extremely helpful for me.

[regal spoke]

The ability to toggle visible icons is pretty sick

[odd marsh]

My map looks like the map of a zombie survival game with many X marks lol

[toxic rose]

Huh, X marks appear only when you kill or mine all here, so...)

[odd marsh]

Ya xD my blackforest is filled with it

[merry pebble]

why? he is not that hard 😄

also thats a bad word my friend

oh

there is nothing to fix tho...

[strange arrow]

"fix"?

[frigid gust]

Lots of people are able to defeat Yagluth. Maybe watch a video, or try turning down the difficulty level? That's why those sliders are there.

[odd marsh]

Fix who?

Yaguguth is pretty chill a bit tanky but youll learn

[frigid gust]

I believe we had this chat yesterday. You can't facetank Yagluth, and he's very resistant to arrow damage so it's a really sub-optimal way to try to beat him. I can literally beat him in 5-10 minutes in Plains level gear, default difficulty in the vanilla game, it's not impossible. It might be impossible if you just keep doing the same thing instead of changing your tactics, though.

[rigid copper]

I beat him yesterday with a maxed padded set and max frostnier

[near furnace]

sadly no. the bosses are balanced to be a challenge

[rigid copper]

Recommend medium healing stamina potions along with fire meads

[merry pebble]

and healing too 😄

oh he is not taking that long for most players 😄

[strange arrow]

take wolves and he dies in seconds

[rigid copper]

Make raised ground pillars to hide behind

They don’t break

[near furnace]

the more players in the area, the stronger he gets also

[merry pebble]

or you can dig around (and maybe under) the altar itself 😉

[near furnace]

and if you use mods.. anything can happen if you don't know what each mod do

[toxic rose]

It's isn't easy, when he already summoned

[merry pebble]

ofc you do that before 😄

[rigid copper]

Prep before bosses

[merry pebble]

you dont need it, its quite easy with that tho

[rigid copper]

Overprepared is always the better option that underprepared

[odd marsh]

U gotta act paranoid

[rigid copper]

I went in with 3 fire meads and 2 stacks of health and stamina potions.

[odd marsh]

God damn

[rigid copper]

And fully upgraded padded and frostnier

[frigid gust]

with that gear a single fire mead should be enough 😛

[rigid copper]

<— this was me XD before I fought him yesterday

I was not going to have another bonemass incident XD

[toxic rose]

Heal meads also will be very good or it'll be very long battle

[errant girder]

humor Ignore that guy thas said: "Get out of Dodge". In that situation, Dodge like crazy lol

[odd marsh]

XD Spam it if you have to LOL

[toxic rose]

rofl

[frigid gust]

I find Tasty Meads to be great for boss fights, I can just keep hitting and dodging and running instead of tanking damage, and there's no cooldown

I just wish they were 15s instead of 10s 😛

[merry pebble]

well for Yag they might not be the best tho since you nearly always take dmg 😛

[light moat]

Took me only (almost) to beat Moder with Frostner, but that was MY fault 😂 surely yag doesn’t take an hour.

[frigid gust]

I'm specifically saying that in the context of Yag 😉 I still find them quite useful

[merry pebble]

hmm, i never tried to use them agains him so what do i know 😄 i just really don´t want to reduce my hp regen in that fight

[odd marsh]

Spamming meads like no tomorrow

[frigid gust]

It's only 50% less regen, it's barely a hit overall, but the stamina regen is huge

[tardy horizon]

Then how is it that I've seen people killing him by normal means? Including me

Did we manage to accomplish the impossible? Are we gods and not humans then?

[uncut bough]

is there a server dedicated to helping others with sailing and fending off dangers if needed?

i fear that if we sink, again, while trying to find Swamp, my friend would legit stopped playin

[odd marsh]

Let me guess you encountered something

[uncut bough]

i wouldn't mind any of that, but since my friend hosts server, i just want to have a safe back up option

[frigid gust]

There's a Body Recovery Squad discord link in #1024264966712340510 I believe

[tardy horizon]

Difficulty is subjective, there's nothing to fix. The only reason why you find something difficult in this game is due to being underprepared

[merry pebble]

i think body recovery squad does something similar

[uncut bough]

that something lurks unexpectedly

[strange arrow]

and Forstner is just that good

[frigid gust]

I too like drill bits 😛

[uncut bough]

or maybe i will just find another way to port his entire server progress to my PC so later i can just pick up when he might stop playing

[strange arrow]

now i wish i'd corrected it xD

[odd marsh]

You can do that

[uncut bough]

yea but idk how

[tardy horizon]

You are being unnecessarily abrasive.

And bosses never despawn

[languid root]

Just blink twice if your friend's blackmailing you with quitting the game and losing the progress

[strange arrow]

most likely wherever he got to last time he chased you

[uncut bough]

0101010101010101010

[errant girder]

anyone try nailing down a bunch of pufferfish beforehand, and let poison drag yag down a bit? works/doesn't work?

[uncut bough]

but yea he is generally bored and demoralized over the very slow nature of Valheim, or at least the specific progression between black forest to Swamp

we just sailed to anther black forest after, sunk once, and that is when we knew where the boss was exploring caves and dungeons, sailed again, fought tooth and nail to clear out all the mobs and trolls, killed Elders

and now we are expected to sail into the unknown, again, with actually 0 directions and guides

[odd marsh]

an adventure

[uncut bough]

as i said, i don't mind any of that, but idk if my friend would even last that long if our ship sinks again

[strange arrow]

keep that feeling, it doesn't last forever

[languid root]

You know you blinked 174762 times, so obviously everything is ok

[fluid bobcat]

.

[uncut bough]

,

[strange arrow]

lot of us are waiting for Ashlands for that vibes again

[languid root]

Is it a nomap noportal? I don't get why you always gonna sail into unknown

[uncut bough]

it is in a sense into the unknown, we are given 0 indicator of where the next boss is, all we know for sure is "swamp", but no specific direction

[languid root]

sail into known and a grab a portal with you

[fluid bobcat]

I bet the first masive building that all players did was a castle

[uncut bough]

wood cabin, take or leave

[light moat]

Actually just bought some drill bits like an hour ago from Home Depot 👀

[fluid bobcat]

Then it must be a big fucking cabin

[light moat]

@uncut bough maybe y’all could adjust some world modifiers to make the game more enjoyable for you? your friend?

[toxic rose]

3.5 storey barn for players...

[uncut bough]

i have legit friend who plays with me, i am not schizo, i mean FRIEND friend and not me friend

[strange arrow]

mine was a wall xD and i actually finished it xD

[faint nebula]

I wonder if we can tame the female Draugr. hmm.

[light moat]

Haha just giving you hard time 😁

[uncut bough]

i have no problem with the progression, i can even play alone, but i just don't want he who hold the power plug to one day pull it and then the progress is gone

[light moat]

Totally understand that, I’d consider cranking up resource rate if he seems like the game is too slow.

Maybe even teleport metals.

[languid root]

Now it sounds like you're making him play the game he doesn't want to play

[uncut bough]

why did he host it in the first place? He bought the game for me and also at that time i haven't played Valheim so i have no idea, i thought i might drop the game after a while, but alas he grows weary and bored even faster than me while i have all the motivation

[strange arrow]

doesn't help a great deal when the game doesn't give you any extra carry weight/capacity for all those mats

[uncut bough]

he asks me out to play, but then complains yesterday that the game is so boring

[odd marsh]

But life would become a bit more easier xD

[light moat]

True, but turning on portals for metals makes the process go quicker, same result at the end of the day.

[uncut bough]

i don't take it too seriously, because i understand that it is just him going tired of too many inactions and downtimes, like take him to 1000 dungeons and he would be geared to play each and every one of it

[languid root]

Just start your own play already and free the poor guy

[strange arrow]

same result that one modifier is useless while the other isn't?

[odd marsh]

I say, shackle the guy in your basement xD

[uncut bough]

my god why are you guys acting like i hold him at gunpoint and force him to play, he actively asks me to play

[light moat]

Same result as in speeding up game progress

[uncut bough]

otherwise i would have played in public servers or actually my own

[languid root]

Cuz you telling this, we have no other source

[strange arrow]

one doesn't speed up anything, the other significantly does

[light moat]

They both speed up progress, although one noticeably more so id say.

[languid root]

Have we already established there are two people?

[strange arrow]

x3 only speeds up collection, which was never an issue

[uncut bough]

ok, so if you guys believe the opposite, i held him at gunpoint and asks him to play, i force him to open the server and started farming resources for me, i dragged him to the dungeons and ask him to go in alone while i run around the field doing nothing

please believe the opposite now

[light moat]

Think of it like this- copper for example. You have one node close to base, another far from base. If your resource rate is higher, you could potentially eliminate the need to go to further nodes, thus ultimately speeds up progress, generally speaking.

[strange arrow]

"lets fill the same size inventory with mats even faster"

[light moat]

Exactly- fill it up faster to get home faster 😉

[languid root]

How can we believe the opposite if you're asking to believe the opposite?

[toxic rose]

Or when you mine brains, you don't need to find much more skulls

[uncut bough]

please not

[fair cairn]

so... my warehouse has 480 slots of space for storage on one side and its main use is storing carrots, onion and turnips

[light moat]

Sounds like a solid farmhouse!

[candid spear]

Hey i was wondering if anyone has a publice valaheim sver i can join?

[toxic rose]

#1024264966712340510

[candid spear]

ty

[fair cairn]

also, every server will ahve a password, there are no, no password servers

[lusty coral]

@uncut bough if you worry about the power plug being pulled then ask him for the save file and you host it then you will not have to worry about lost progression

[candid spear]

How might i get the passwords

[toxic rose]

Most of them, without cross play you could run without password as I remember

[strange arrow]

so all those games with sliders for removing carry weight and stam use got it wrong

[fair cairn]

pretty sure you need a password if its public

[strange arrow]

they should have just shoved a bunch more resources on the player and said no to anything else

[fair cairn]

by talking with the Host and joing him on his world and be a decent human being so that you dont get kicked

[candid spear]

thank you

[light moat]

No, wouldn’t say that. I would even approve of a weight slider- I think that would be a decent world modifier. All I’m saying is that resource rate, weight modifiers, and portals all contribute to making the game go faster 🙂

[light moat]

For example, I play Ark, and there are times I increase the weight capacity as well as the resource rate. They both contribute to making the general pace of the game faster in their own way.

[strange arrow]

lot of "if's" in there

[fair cairn]

having a skelton, a shaman and 1 dwarve fight right outside my boar pen was exceeding anxiety inducing

[strange arrow]

like "if" the carry weight slider was added or if the inventory was bigger somehow

[fair cairn]

im not seeing a if 🤔

[light moat]

I’ll agree to disagree with you

[strange arrow]

they all have to work together to acheive time saved for the player

[frigid gust]

That's why I always have two layers of fences for my boars and livestock, that way enemies at the exterior fence can't reach them with poison or log hits

[strange arrow]

one thing on it's own like x3 not so much

[frigid gust]

x3 does get kinda silly, though. I find 1.5x a great balance for single player.

[toxic rose]

I used double fence only for loxes, because their texture looks outside of first wall

[frigid gust]

I use earthen walls for lox because they are dumb and violent 😛

[fair cairn]

well, my farm is lower than the sorrounding land so all of the terrain around my base is higher than the area im walking in, so not really a problem unless its a troll but still anxiety inducing hearing the shaman heal and shoot poison every second

[solid wing]

sa

[timber sky]

alr portal works now

copied and pasted my thing, idk how previous name didn't worked, it was exactly same

[rustic schooner]

mazel tov 👍

[fair cairn]

guess ill stand on the boar pen and just lob flint arrows at brutes from dozens of meters away

[night aspen]

can i plant flax in any biome?

[fair cairn]

only plains

[night aspen]

allright

[frigid gust]

Same with barley, just FYI

[timber sky]

getting hard time to find swamp

[fair cairn]

maybe mistlands? im not sure about that but in the plains you can plant everything up to the plains biome

[frigid gust]

Nope. Only Plains. Currently minimal farmland would be Plains and Mistlands to grow all possible crops.

[fair cairn]

yea, ok, i did say im not sure but well, now i am

[frigid gust]

Swamp starts a fair bit away from center, and will always be at water level. Just sail along shores and you'll eventually see the huge trees of the swamps. Make sure you bring a portal when exploring.

[light moat]

Is it possible to find a land locked swamp?

[night aspen]

Cloudberries respawn same as other berries?

[fair cairn]

yes

[frigid gust]

It is, but very very rare. It'd have to go down to sealevel in the middle of a continent basically, those kinds of bowls are really rare in general.

[light moat]

Ahh interesting, I’ve always kinda wondered. That would be so cool to see!

[timber sky]

i sailed for a while, i did circle in RIGHT directions, black forest, imma try left side rn

[light moat]

I’ve swamps do this sort of weird ‘stretch’ from one side of an island to the other.

[fair cairn]

now that you mention that, im pretty sure my very first world had a landlocked swamp though it was tiny as hell and had a massive slope to get in and out of it from the blackforest

[timber sky]

btw can u upgrade Karve's inventory

[light moat]

Nope!

[frigid gust]

I've found some that are mostly enclosed, kinda snaking in along a river-ish basically and then in the valley it was swamps, but I haven't seen it quite fully enclosed

[timber sky]

damn alr, atleast i got 90 copper

[fair cairn]

the next upgrade with more inventory is the longboat

[timber sky]

new boat better inventory

[frigid gust]

That's why you need swamps, iron enables the longboat which carries a lot more. Pro tip: bring copper with when exploring the swamps at first so you can make a forge and make iron nails with your first few pieces of iron so you can sail more back on the first trip.

[strange arrow]

longboat outmatches karve in every way except for turning circle and coastal/rivers navigation

[light moat]

lol used this tip that you gave me a while ago. Now I’m changed man, kinda just have a longboat with a ton of various metals on it in case I want plop an outpost somewhere.

[timber sky]

or just create portal when u're in swamp for the first time

[frigid gust]

Can't bring metals through portals by default. If you have it enabled, sure, but... I still do always bring a portal, but I can't make iron nails

[timber sky]

then plan your things

[timber sky]

boat ;P

[light moat]

Well, on standard mode you can’t teleport your metals. Bring forge mats so you can basically create iron nails so you can build a longship.

Sail to the swamp with a karve, sail back with a longship 🙂 and lots of iron!

[timber sky]

Oh my fkin god ITS FRIDAY, my dumbass thought its wednesday or some. Nahh

Finally, i can be even more retarted and play valheim all night

[frigid gust]

The point is that if you make the iron and nails on-site in the swamps you don't have to sail a small load of iron back in the karve to the main base to make nails and make the new boat, you can immediately make the boat where you need it

[light moat]

Here’s a bonus tip- bring even more forge materials to upgrade the forge, so you can work on making iron weapons and armor while you’re there 🙂

[fair cairn]

heh, ill make all of the remaining chests at my farmhouse with wood ill get from killing dwarves! that way itll be 50% green!

[strange arrow]

you've still done a sailing trip with karve to get metals there when you could just portal the boat and sail back, either way it's 1 trip by boat

[near inlet]

bonus bonus tip: just build an entire base the second you set foot in the swamp

[light moat]

Reduce, reuse and recycle!

[odd marsh]

nothing goes to waste!

[strange arrow]

it only helps in the situation that you can't reach an initial swamp by land at all

[odd marsh]

graydwarf eyes? slurp it!

[frigid gust]

It's minimal two trips by boat if you don't bring materials with. It's still two trips if you don't want to fully set up in the swamps, but you can bring a LOT more iron back with you on the return trip if you make nails in the swamps.

[timber sky]

Discovering swamp ft. Karve
Place a portal
Back at home
Get some wood, other things for forge, making iron.
Make a safe shelter
Go into swamp dungeons
Get Iron
Make new boat
Grind for more iron
Shelter chests
Full Boat
Back Home.

my 999iq plan

[strange arrow]

if you can get to a swamp with crypts on foot it doesn't save any time

[frigid gust]

Sailing a longship full of iron is a lot faster than hauling a cart full?

[strange arrow]

having some initial iron can unlock more things at base that you can work on

[strange arrow]

thought we were discussing karve journeys xD

[frigid gust]

https://tenor.com/view/abbott-costello-whos-on-first-mad-angry-gif-17548381

[strange arrow]

walk to swamp sail karve back or sail to swamp with metal on karve for forge

[odd marsh]

or just bring it in the firstplace xD

[light moat]

I feel like every playthrough, my seed never has a swamp on the spawn island, but I kinda like it that way.

[timber sky]

32hours in valheim, almost day 100

5 or 6 irl days journey

[odd marsh]

doing good

whats the progress so far?

[timber sky]

I can feel being a man who forgets about showers, higiene

[timber sky]

i was focused on copper grind today, i got 90 alr for me, about to make Portals around Tree, i saw 1 video, looks amazing

[strange arrow]

taking football home with me 🤪

[light moat]

Nice! Getting a big supply of copper is a huge step!

[night leaf]

guess how many hours i have on valheim ?

[exotic cradle]

five

[timber sky]

idc but, 5000?

[night leaf]

30 minutes

[timber sky]

biggest lie in human history

[strange arrow]

spamming that hour count hard

[night leaf]

wym?

[timber sky]

30 minutes in valheim is kinda idk.. when u launch valheim for me first time u gotta have 5 hours or something

valheim is more addicting than coke

[night leaf]

not realy

[timber sky]

thats like "meh boring, imma go play some fps shooters"

[odd marsh]

xD "not really" sounds like someone has tried it

[near inlet]

truly goated seeds have meadows, Black Forest and mountains on the starting island

[strange arrow]

it can be a bit daunting starting out, but the game is very fun

[timber sky]

ah yes he has 30mins of playtime

sorry for calling u a Liar

[fair cairn]

almost ahve 500 hours in valheim with none of them ever getting past mountains lol

though i do think i did kill moder once, but didnt get much further than venturing into plains once

[timber sky]

i prob live in mountains when imma be with good weapons

tame some wolfs, imma be a King of The Mountains

[fair cairn]

sounds cool and all untill you need to get metals up there
though saying that, i may build a log hut in the mountains

[light moat]

Before I started playing again like a month ago-ish, I hadn’t played since before Hearth and Home. It was a content overload when I came back lol

[frigid gust]

#screenshots message

[light moat]

Think I was at like 400 hours?

[timber sky]

Ngl mountains looks amazing, imma be having 10 wolfs and destroying every enemie

• i had like a.. wolf-dog irl, thats why i like it lol

[light moat]

Ahh, that’s right, you’ve been playing BG3 right? (Sorry, meant to respond here)

[near inlet]

can u even grow anything in mountains I don't remeber

[fair cairn]

no

[strange arrow]

rookie numbers xD

[fair cairn]

compared to my Warthunder indeed
compared to my valheim hours, i have almost half as much as him

[night leaf]

who here has played Lego fortnite?

[timber sky]

not me

[exotic cradle]

Do you know what channel you're in hun ^^

[night leaf]

yeah

[odd marsh]

Compared to my time in warframe

[half dragon]

Feels badge. Kinda want to return to Valheim, but knowing that a big update is getting closer and I would for sure want to start over when it comes... feel like it would be better to just continue having a break and have more energy to go all out when it does arrive.

[odd marsh]

Time to ready those coffee when it hitz

[half dragon]

Luckily there's been good games coming out recently and discovered some older ones too

[light moat]

I was thinking about waiting for Ashlands to drop, but I figured it’ll take me a good while to get to the point in-game where I’m waiting for it. I only just got to plains, and I’m working on my next big base/the next boss. I don’t actually think I’m going to hit my goal in time haha

[exotic cradle]

Why do you need to wait though

[half dragon]

Even with my obsession to craft every piece of equipment and weapon and even maxing them out, it didn't take me more than a month to progress to plains

[light moat]

That’s a really good question, and because I didn’t have a good answer, that’s why I decided to start a playthrough 😅

I don’t have a ton of time to play, so my progression is significantly slower haha

[half dragon]

Is it still not the case that things are just going to break if you try to play in new update with old map, or missing out content?

[light moat]

Irongate has mentioned that this update shouldn’t do anything to old saves, as long as you haven’t explored/generated Ashlands currently.

So as long as you steer clear of the southern area, you should be good.

[half dragon]

Well... that's the thing. very hard to avoid generating parts of it unless you reveal the map

[light moat]

Well, because Ashlands is contained to a very specific area, it makes it easy to avoid. Unlike mistlands, for example.

[half dragon]

Not for me. I usually just like exploring everything

[frigid gust]

I mean... just don't go south or north too far? It's not that hard, you've still got 80% of the world to explore, all the way to the edges east and west

[light moat]

Have you done the hildir content yet?

[odd marsh]

Damn i wonder how big ashlands is gonna be

[frigid gust]

Same size it currently is, it will just be a single continent instead of multiple islands. Look at any generated world map and you get the basic size and shape.

[odd marsh]

Hm nice

[half dragon]

Not yet. Mistlands arrived some time after I went on a break.

[light moat]

Ahh gotcha. I won’t spoil anything, but the Hildir content does require a good bit of sailing/exploring. In my opinion, I found it worth it to check out now while waiting for Ashlands.

And obviously Mistalnds.

[frigid gust]

Yeah. Biggest thing to keep in mind with moving current worlds to new Ashlands update is that the Ashlands area will terraform into being unapproachable by land, and any structures in the Ashlands will likely be destroyed due to terrain changes, even if you've already explored it. That is in contrast to previous updates where explored areas would just not get updated at all.

[half dragon]

At the time had bought a bit too many games and didn't want to bury them into steam library to be forgotten. Knew I'd return to Valheim sooner or later anyway

[light moat]

That’s fair for sure! I have too many games that I haven’t played yet lol

[half dragon]

So it might not matter if you explore the area ahead of time?

[sly lava]

any romanian servers/players here?

[frigid gust]

It will. New content won't be added to already "explored" areas, but they will still be terraformed, so you'll have an empty area of Ashlands wherever you explore. Enemies may spawn, but environmental content won't be there.

[frigid gust]

Check in #1024264966712340510 for matching up with other players 🙂

[sly lava]

oh, thanks a lot

[half dragon]

Ahh... well I'll probably wait a bit closer to release. Not out of games to play atm. And to make sure I don't accidentally explore too far north or south, follow a revealed map at edges of south and north to mark where not to go, with a reasonable buffer zone

Was honestly surprised by the things that were added in Mistlands. Makes me hyped for Ashlands

[frigid gust]

Yeah, for sure. I'm getting the feeling that they're aiming for at least that much content, and who knows what other kids of QoL and sidequest and other stuff they're going to bring with. Maybe another dungeon for Hildir, who knows...

[light moat]

Yeah, I’m wondering what/if ‘minor’ content update they might come up with after Ashlands. Maybe some ocean stuff? We’ll see 🤷🏼‍♂️

[half dragon]

maybe entirely new world?

Or a new part of that world

[frigid gust]

The devs are doing their very best to try to make everything "roll forward" and allow you to use existing worlds, within reason.

[half dragon]

I mean, kinda similar to how Minecraft has nether completely disconnected from the overworld and can travel between them

[frigid gust]

The Hildir dungeons would appear in existing worlds in unexplored valid areas, for example. So long as the world isn't 100% explored you can use an older world.

Ahh... yeah. That's probably not going to happen, Valheim is a singular world, there won't be some kind of alternate dimension for it.

[half dragon]

Who knows... would there be a reason to try escape that world? And even if wanted to, could it be possible?

[light moat]

If we managed to escape, Odin would surely be very displeased 🥲

[tardy horizon]

There isn't and there won't

[half dragon]

Unless devs themselves have stated that won't happen, it'd say it's possible. Not likely, but possible.

[regal spoke]

We are in a realm forsaken can't escape. Doubt it would be a potential for us. Best case scenario we make it to Valhalla

[tardy horizon]

Which is the final objective. After doing so the game is finished.

That's the moment you either play a new world or a new game entirely

[light moat]

Hopefully we can continue to play on worlds that have been beaten 😅

Odin, I’m not ready to go to Valhalla- who will watch my wolves?

[ashen geyser]

ashlands will go first on public test branch right?

[frigid gust]

Yes. And if you want to get in on it and notified when it does make sure you've got yourself the public-tester role like you do.

[ashen geyser]

thanks. and how long does it usually take for and update to move to the normal branch?

[merry pebble]

really depends on number of problems found

[hearty niche]

Was this something they mentioned in walk n talks?

[frigid gust]

No, just some discussion in the public test channel. I think it may have even been before the server hack. Trying to keep it mostly spoiler free, but it is accurate to the best of my knowledge.

[heady parcel]

Are there no other uses for lox pelts than rugs and capes? I have enough pelts to cover my entire island in rugs and then some...

Feels like there should have been a successor to the Fenris using lox leather, but that was simply skipped. Leaves lox pelts pretty much trash loot once you have a cape and covered your place in pelts. Feels like a waste 😕

[exotic cradle]

-> #suggestions if you think they should have a use ^^

[heady parcel]

Seen many suggestions there about it, and upvoted. I think the devs know there are ppl who want that - but they also say gaps in gear progression are entirely intentional, so I suppose they just think it's not necessary. Which is fine, I just disagree a little 😄

I suppose there's always the obliterator...

[frigid gust]

There's always a fully carpeted house, too 😛

[pallid rose]

can anyone help us defeat bonemass, we are a cool group, have voice chat, please help our sorry souks

souls

[frigid gust]

Best to ask in #1024264966712340510

[pallid rose]

ok so you wont help, got it

[frigid gust]

I mean, I'm at work and I give advice and chat here in my downtime. This channel is not for getting groups together, it's for chat. There's a specific channel for groups, which I linked.

[pallid rose]

mkay big guy

cool dude stuff

[light moat]

He did help, he pointed you towards people who are looking for multiplayer 👀

[pallid rose]

mkay thanks

neither of you understand the immediacy but thats ok

its all good, i know how the game works

[warm loom]

lol being an asshole to the server helpers is a great way to get people to come play with your 'cool' group just calm down

[pallid rose]

am i an asshole>

[merry pebble]

well... yes...

[warm loom]

self aware, i respect it

[pallid rose]

lol

unbelievable

[merry pebble]

indeed it is 😄

[frigid gust]

Chill out y'all. If you want immediate help, the Body Recovery Squad is more geared at that kind of interaction: https://discord.com/channels/391142601740517377/1033392094817046630

[pallid rose]

asking for help, how dare I.

[frigid gust]

Nobody is upset at you asking for help. It might do good to reflect a bit on the method of asking and your responses, though.

[tardy horizon]

Being unnecessarily rude to people pointing in the correct direction to get help...

Yeah, truly a victim you are

[pallid rose]

lol mkay.

how was me asking for help being rude. wait dont answer that, you are already offended. my bad

[exotic cradle]

this is how

[merry pebble]

you know, i would actually come to help yall, i have time and propper old gear so i would not be overgeared for the fight, but after seeing how you instantly chose to be passive agressive about Pitabred redirecting you to proper channel i really don´t want to anymore 😅

[tardy horizon]

#valheim-chat message

#valheim-chat message

Neither those two msgs not the one I reply to now convey any level of politeness from you.

Starting to see why you're playing alone without someone to help you right now...

[merry pebble]

they are not playing alone i think, at least their first message is saying "...to help us..."

[odd helm]

settle down, folks

[rustic schooner]

personally I cannot

[urban fulcrum]

I have a question, how many people here play just one world

[merry pebble]

how should i know?

[tardy horizon]

Already did. Check modmail

[pallid rose]

wow i was really hoping the community would do better but im amazed at the comments, please continue, absouletly fascinating

[urban fulcrum]

well i'm not specifically asking YOU, it was more what you said

[pallid rose]

bunch of haters

amazing

[tardy horizon]

Trolls always consider themselves the victims...

[exotic cradle]

What do you want honey? Honestly.

[pallid rose]

lol

[tardy horizon]

Don't bother

[exotic cradle]

Yeah, sorry. Just a bit baffled ^^

[merry pebble]

if you are not asking me then why reply to my message....

[pallid rose]

wanted help, all i got was garbage

[urban fulcrum]

well because your message mentioned old gear, and that just got me curious about like, how many people keep playing on a single world

[rustic schooner]

one man’s garbage is another man’s good ungarbage

[urban fulcrum]

well the answer was a unanimous "no thanks/I'm busy" so

[merry pebble]

i have my gear from this playthrough as i am already in mistlands, and i have some other gear on other worlds if you are asking that 🤔

[odd helm]

As Pitabred mentioned, in-game help requests like this should go in #1024264966712340510, not in this channel.

[pallid rose]

mhmm

[lusty crescent]

Mostly have played on friend's worlds
Did eventually make my own and beat the game

As far as you can rn anyway

[urban fulcrum]

okay, so i'm the strange one

i'm constantly starting new runs and making new worlds

[fair cairn]

Wth is this
"Chatting about immediacy in valheim"?

[lusty crescent]

Before finishing the old ones

Yeah used to do that as a kid on fallout new vegas all the time lmao

[urban fulcrum]

well usually i get to mistlands, then tap out around there since that's all the current "progression"

i think i've beaten queen once

[lusty crescent]

Fair enough
Try taking your favorite world and make a mega base or something idk

[urban fulcrum]

i would if my computer wouldn't HATE it

but it's not a horrible idea actually

[lusty crescent]

Smack your computer into submission

[frozen void]

I have one main world and one main test world, and the world I'm playing with my wife

[lusty crescent]

Best it on combat

[urban fulcrum]

i love valheim, but valheim does not love my cpu

[exotic cradle]

maybe delete ur mods

^-^ im kidding

[lusty crescent]

I play on Xbox I have no such weakness

(No mods I'm coping)

😔

[light moat]

Just gotta say, really appreciate the way you handle things. I don’t drink, but if I did, I’d share a beer with you.

[tardy horizon]

I certainly don't have the patience to deal community management stuff

[urban fulcrum]

you joke, but vanilla runs around 50 fps

[languid root]

no beer then

[frigid gust]

I've got 6 kids, 4 of which are teenagers right now. If I didn't have patience they'd all be dead by now 😛

[heady parcel]

I've got one solo world that I started on when the game released on EA, old seed that can no longer be reproduced so I keep around 5 backups... Then I have a dedicated server for a bunch of friends, and an offline copy of that that I do test building on before committing time and mats to big builds...

[merry pebble]

if i don´t count my base then it runs on stable 60 for me 🤔 and i don´t have really beefy computer or anything

[lusty crescent]

Idk anything about PC gaming but maybe they just have a weaker machine

[urban fulcrum]

i got a bottom end rig with a 6-8 year cpu, and the fact that Valheim STILL runs okay on it is astonishing

[frigid gust]

One of the biggest limitations of Valheim performance with large builds is CPU speed and memory bandwidth

[tardy horizon]

Weakness...

[frozen void]

My main world just crossed 1500 days the other day, 90%+ of it spent building or farming for building lol

[lusty crescent]

Weak foe ahead

[tardy horizon]

Always amused to see people complain about "lag" for playing at like 50 FPS when they should be playing at 51...

[exotic cradle]

my base has 7 fps all good

[lusty crescent]

Pls explain

[urban fulcrum]

make no mistake, as we speak my modded valhiem is running 10-12 fps

[lusty crescent]

Sounds about right

[tardy horizon]

I killed yagluth with less than 15 fps

Literally anything above that is smooth regardless of the amount

[lusty crescent]

Good God

[frozen void]

How many instances? Ive hit 28k in the middle of the water

[heady parcel]

My PC is 10 years old this year, but I did put a 1070 in it a couple of years after I bought it, but it comfortably runs most modern games still, although the likes of Elden Ring and Baldur's Gate 3 have strained it a bit and forced some adjustments in settings

[tardy horizon]

You merely adopted lag, I was grown in it, molded by it. I could never see a stable frame until I was already a man

[languid root]

He was so impressed with lags?

[heady parcel]

Valheim runs perfectly well in 1440p

[tardy horizon]

(I still don't play with a stable frame)

[exotic cradle]

About 29k

[lusty crescent]

What's k?

[urban fulcrum]

thousand

[merry pebble]

thousand

[frozen void]

Kilo = thousand

[lusty crescent]

Oh I thought it was some PC term
28, 000 of what

[urban fulcrum]

WAIT K STANDS FOR KILO???

[merry pebble]

yes

[lusty crescent]

Frames?!

[urban fulcrum]

28000 instances, which is just 28000 THINGS

[frigid gust]

The new Render Scale setting has been huge for performance, it will upscale much like DLSS/FSR

[frozen void]

Kilogram, kilobyte

[frigid gust]

Do schools no longer teach SI prefixes?

[frozen void]

I should measure my base someday. The main build is spread over so many chunks the edge dont load in when im in the middle lol

[merry pebble]

kilo, mega, giga, tera,...

[frigid gust]

milli, centi, deci...

Then you get into binary prefixes, kibi, mebi, gibi...

[merry pebble]

mili, micro, nano, pico,...

[merry pebble]

oh i don´t know those 😄

[urban fulcrum]

kibi

[fair cairn]

i did not know a skelly surprise is that big holy shit

[frigid gust]

Mostly computer centric, a kilobyte is 1000 bytes, a kibibyte is 1024 bytes, it is basically the si-adjacent powers of two

[merry pebble]

oh... to advanced for me i am afraid XD

[lusty crescent]

I know the rest just didn't know the k for thousand was kilo

I don't know what I thought before but makes sense now ig

[fair cairn]

mine didnt lol, only went from byte to i think petabyte

[gentle frost]

anyone else love watching the ai fight eachother? Me and my friends got raided after we lost all our stuff and we just lead the draugr into the dark forest and watched it love all unfold lol

[spare pasture]

is there any strat to beat dungeons fast? it takes me like 2 hours to complete one cuz i die like 15 times

[frigid gust]

Go slowly and methodically, and I follow maze-solving rules, I just always turn left and follow the wall, and eventually you'll explore it all. Depending on what specific dungeons you're talking about there are some techniques that can help. Also, don't be afraid to retreat.

[frozen void]

Which dungeon? What foood, weapon and armor are you using?

[spare pasture]

idk what dungeon. i just started playing yesterday

[frozen void]

So skeleton dungeon?

[spare pasture]

yeah i think so

[frozen void]

Ok. Theyre weak to fire and blunt damage, so if you use a club or fire arrows youll kill them easier

Take it slow at first, dont go deep in unless youre sure theres no skeletons that can flank you from other openings

[spare pasture]

thats the starter weapon right?

[frozen void]

Yea

And a shield too if youre using club

You can also use the stagbreaker, which does a bugger area and can hit them through doors

[spare pasture]

ill try that!

thank you! 😀

[fair cairn]

heh, in order to farm wood at the farm, i just went intot he black forest, took out the pick axe and hit the grounda few times and wait for a group of dwarves to show up

[frigid gust]

Biggest tip with Valheim is that food is king. You want to always have 3 types of food in your belly, and always be looking to make better food. First forays into the Burial Chambers you should probably have cooked deer and cooked boar meat and maybe yellow mushrooms or honey as your food. Make sure you make some beehives once you find some hives, destroy them and take the queen.

[fair cairn]

got 2 stacks of wood for a 50% green warehouse build 😄

[spare pasture]

yeah.. i've been mostly using berries

[heady parcel]

Even greylings pose a threat with only berries in your stomach. Really, food is incredibly important, so pay attention when unlocking new recipies so you don't miss when you learn how to make better foods.

[frigid gust]

For reference, I would rather eat food from a current biome and use weapons and armor from 2 biomes back than eat food from 2 biomes back and have current-tier armor and weapons 😉 The game will change a ton for you with good food. Valheim isn't like most survivial games where food just keeps you from starving. Food is a mechanic.

[frozen void]

You should definitely eat at least one meat. And make cultivator and cauldron quickly so you can make better food

Pick up any carrot seeds in the meantime

[spare pasture]

how do i make that

[heady parcel]

Bronze and corewood for the cultivator, tin for the cauldron

[spare pasture]

yes but i dont know how to get coal to smelt it

[frozen void]

You need to mine copper and tin to smelt that, but to make the smelters you need to loot the black and red orbs in the dungeons

[heady parcel]

Coal you get by either overcooking meat or by building a kiln

[frozen void]

Charcoal kiln that makes coal uses the same items as smelter

[buoyant panther]

@silk sandal with your removal of the Arrows chart from the wiki, does that content live somewhere else now?

[frigid gust]

Did you get any of the Surtling Cores in the dungeons? Did you see new things to build? Build everything. Valheim has basically nothing useless to build. Even decorations increase comfort in your home.

[spare pasture]

yeah i got 6 of them so i dont have enough for a coal maker thing

[heady parcel]

Burn some meat over the fire - or dismantle the smelter, build a kiln with the items, burn some coal, dismantle the kiln and re-build the smelter!

[frigid gust]

You only need 5 to make a kiln. You can deconstruct existing structures to get all their materials back if you need (if you build it... things you find already built only return part of the materials). Many times I will make a kiln, make a bunch of coal, and then deconstruct the kiln and build a smelter from the materials.

[spare pasture]

oh

thats kinda smart

[frigid gust]

It's also good for when you want to move structures, rearrange your base, etc. 😉

[spare pasture]

i will go try that 👍
thanks for the help guys!

[spare pasture]

will i lose the ores that are in the smelter when i deconstruct it?

[frigid gust]

Nope, you shouldn't lose anything. Sometimes when playing on a server some desync issues can happen, but single player should preserve all materials all the time.

[spare pasture]

Alright
Thank you :)

[heady parcel]

Fuel is lost though

So if you have a smelter filled with 20 coal but no ore and deconstruct it, the coal is lost

[frozen void]

Im pretty sure that comes out too

[heady parcel]

Nope

[frozen void]

But more importantly, you eed to replant carrots for more carrot seeds

[heady parcel]

Aye, that is the king rule. Don't eat all the carrots!

[spare pasture]

meme or are carrots actually good?

[merry pebble]

it does drop back tho, it can happen that one will be lost if the smelting process stops midway through the one coal but otherwise it will drop back all the fuel

[heady parcel]

Carrots are the base of a lot of stronger foods that make you tougher for later challenges, so definitely not a meme

Food is pretty much the strongest progression factor in Valheim

[spare pasture]

oh okay

[heady parcel]

That has legit never happened when I've done it, any fuel put into any kind of processing device will be lost on deconstruction. Or I've been eating crazy pills

[merry pebble]

thats weird, it always dropped for me 🤔 i will go try it but i am 99,99% sure it drops back

yeah it drops back, you can go look to necks pond if you want 😄 @heady parcel

[frigid gust]

Anything that's currently or partially in-process will be lost for fuel. Like, you smelt half an ore and the fuel used for that will disappear but the ore will be fully refunded

[heady parcel]

The way food works in Valheim is that you have this very tiny base 25 or so health, along with some stamina. When you eat a piece of food you gain some health and stamina from that, which then degenerates over time, forcing you to eat again to keep your stats healthy. So, you never gain any levels or hit points - the only way to get stronger is to eat good food. Every biome brings new ingredients you can cook in the cauldron to make better foods, making you tougher and better prepared to face tougher foes.

[heady parcel]

That is so weird, I don't deconstruct my smelters that often but I'm pretty sure I have lost every piece of coal in them every single time.

Which is why I've told my brother to not pre-fill them with coal when we don't have any ore to process 😛

[spare pasture]

thats very cool and good to know!

is there anyway to terraform land or something like that? i want to build a nice base but most of the time there is a hill in the way

[heady parcel]

Yes, once you have a workbench you can craft a "hoe" with which you can do just that

And the pickaxe can be used to dig deep

[spare pasture]

oh. i thought it just cut grass

👍

[frozen void]

Carrot is an ingredient for 3 black forest foods as well as the first cauldron upgrade

[spare pasture]

... i used the hoe and my game crashed lol

[heady parcel]

The level ground function tries to even the ground to the level that you stand on, the "raise ground" function uses some stone to build up some ground where you aim. You really need to just practice with it to figure it out, but there are lots of videos on terraforming in Valheim 🙂

[spare pasture]

very nice! thats really useful

where do i make the cauldron? i have copper and tin but i dont see it anywhere in the building menu

[vocal rivet]

Are you within range of your forge?

[night aspen]

What kind of plains size do u guys looking for, if want to build second base, is it recommended to take smaller or huge ones?

[rigid copper]

I settled for a little plains island for farming

[heady parcel]

I made a couple of terraces around the base of one of those stone spires. One for barley, one for flax, and a portal up top back home. I was imagining this great tower up on the top of the spire, but it turned out it was way WAY too small for that...

Those spires look bigger from the ground than they really are

[frigid gust]

It's hard to make a huge tower, but you make a pretty good sized base if you do it right. I love building on top of them, generally get a solid 2-3 floors at the top, and I build little side towers off the side as I build the stairs up so I can have areas for chickens and such

[lunar sapphire]

Spires being mistlands or the plains hildir quest tower?

[night aspen]

I found this big land, spotted swamps, plains and mountains pretty close. But its just a lil part of the whole continent i guess, when i surrounded it with my boat, ive seen some more plains. #screenshots

[old echo]

evening all

[night aspen]

evening

[hollow wing]

im gonna beat the living crap out of this soldier disturbing the peace in mistlands. with himminafl of course and some magic

[heady parcel]

What does it take to stagger one of those?

[old echo]

really wish my wife and little one would jump on our server, im running out of things to do

[hollow wing]

ive not fought them a lot of with the himminafl

so not sure yet

[old echo]

did get a nice little screenshot of the village i posted on the screenshots bit

[heady parcel]

The only time I had to take on a soldier in melee it turned me inside out. I tried to avoid it and hit its butt but, yeah... didn't work

[regal spoke]

Just a little creative block is all. Gaming with fam is everything though

[hollow wing]

well it juist turned me inside out too. stupid gjall distracting me

[frigid gust]

The plain stone spires that have been in the Plains forever

[old echo]

Thing is we're at the swamp, getting ready for bonemass. I collected a bunch of iron for them to craft gear with (about 150 each) and while ive been waiting i explored the mountain a bit, tamed some wolves, got obsidian to make a lvl 5 workbench, got onion seeds, cultivated onions, collected a couple of dragon eggs etc etc

[opal prairie]

That would break the server and you first got to build a new one before you can play again.

[old echo]

last thing for me to get i guess while i wait would be some silver, make a hammer and pound away until i happen across a vein

[vapid jackal]

Did anyone find that the game stops being fun after swamp?

[hollow wing]

mountains are very awful, but plains/mistlands very fun

[vapid jackal]

Just becomes a hard as heck uphill battle

[old echo]

the swamp is certainly a big step up from the black forest

[vapid jackal]

Lots of corpserunning, walking/running simulator

[hollow wing]

oh yeah himminafl parries soldiers like nothing lol

[old echo]

from my albeit limited experience of mountains the step up isnt quite as great

[night aspen]

Swamps was just annoying af, but when i started to explore mountains and plains, it was kinda nice again.

Non stop rain sucks.

[old echo]

Abominations were annoying until i got a lvl 3 banded shield and lvl 3 iron sword along with lvl 3 root gear

[vapid jackal]

I dunno about plains being fun, I have spent several hours total running back to plains to get my things, only to be killed by the same deathsquito that got me before

[old echo]

then i could melee them down fairly easily

[hollow wing]

staggers them with lightning and they can't move at all. so it's very good. im fighting a star 1 right now. so easy

[vapid jackal]

until I figured that I could crouch and roll as they are about to sting

[old echo]

parry?

[frigid gust]

It's not consistent, but you can often parry them just with a bronze buckler 😉

[night aspen]

I feel ya, just happened to me yesterday when i reached plains first time with my boat. Wasn't even on land, so i had to sail the same way thrice.

[plush umbra]

Part of that is also preparation

[night aspen]

But after i figured out how to kill those bees, it wasn't that hard anymore.

[old echo]

tbh before that i was using my bow more than sword, once i got a decent sword i started to really get parrying down etc

[frigid gust]

Yeah. I have been taking down the first couple abominations with a bronze buckler and axe in my recent runs. It's not as easy as with a sword, but it's sufficient to get me into root armor.

[hollow wing]

well the key is to not get killed

[regal spoke]

Can a maxed wood shield suffice in the swamp with the right food? Trying to skirt around the bronze buckler until iron is available

[hollow wing]

i think most recommend a buckler

[heady parcel]

Genuinely curious, in what way do you think axe makes it easier than a sword?

[old echo]

he didnt, he said sword was easier

[heady parcel]

To me the axe is very inferior to the sword in combat due to the slow animation at start, plus of course the multi target penalty

[old echo]

but at least with an axe you have an all purpose weapon/log chopper

[night aspen]

those two stars archer draugr can be sneaky, i died alot from those, couse i didn't expect them behind the next tree

[heady parcel]

Or "very" is the wrong word, the difference is not that great. but yeah the sword is better for combat nearly 100% of the time.

[hollow wing]

well totally

[vapid jackal]

bigbrain troll answer

[hollow wing]

when i was fighting the boss i died many times. but had a black forest near where my portals were so

[heady parcel]

I always bring both, and a mace...

[old echo]

if your short on materials i guess you'd want to have a lvl 3 axe over a lvl 1 axe and a lvl 1 sword?

[vapid jackal]

I prob won't play again until the ashlands update, as long as they don't have the silly fog

[hollow wing]

i mean its not really a troll answer. i never have any backup armor so for me key is to not get killed. especially if you dont have a base in plains its very annoying to get your stuff back

[heady parcel]

I'd never move ahead without having both at a level I feel that I need

[vapid jackal]

I'll probably mod it so i don't drop stuff on death

Corpserunning is not fun

[old echo]

Root armour is good for them, pierce resist is pretty good

[night aspen]

This is still my first run, so i decided for myself, ill do a vanilla run before messing around with mods.

[heady parcel]

Which is why I love it, I really don't want to die so when things get rough I get a pulse... 🙂

[old echo]

swamp food is such a step up from BF food as well

[heady parcel]

With world modifyers that can be done without mods now, no?

[old echo]

Had a rough death not long ago, playing solo on the family server, skirting some plains in my boat and a deathsquito managed to hit the boat a couple of times, so i dipped in the swamp just after the plains to moor up and fix, it turned dark and i got bumrushed by a wraith, darugr, oozer, slimes and 5 leeches

and no stamina, so dead. Tried to go back on a raft which took nearly a full in game day of sailing and got sniped before i got to my body by a draugr, so in the end i made a karve, took my leather armour and decent food and finally got a stuff back

[night aspen]

Yeah, i could configurates some stuff, but i just left it default.

[old echo]

i sniped the draugr for payback too

[vapid jackal]

This is the kinda thing that makes me rage

[heady parcel]

That is Valheim in a nutshell, pain in the back end but also why I love it so much

[modern hare]

where is the dhakar mod for the rpg version of valheim?

[night aspen]

I feel more annoyed about to do gardening, feels like its alot of repeating work just to plant stuff. xD
#screenshots

[old echo]

I was annoyed but i wasnt going to let it beat me, plus I didnt have the resources to remake my high lvl root armour and iron gear lol

[vapid jackal]

Once it's happened 50 times you get more than annoyed

especially if you spend 30mins running across the world to retrieve something, and get whacked 10 seconds away

[vocal rivet]

#game-mod-discussion will probably know.

[old echo]

this is my 2nd annoying hard to recover death, the first was sea monster jumping me and losing my boat in the middle of the ocean. Most annoying bit was it was 1 hit from me killing it and i sucked out of stamina and it got the final hit in on my boat

[vocal rivet]

Once it's happened 50 times it's time to try a new approach.

[vapid jackal]

One of the worst ones was a greydwarf throwing stone which stumbled me, stopping me using my shield for juuuuust long enough for a deathsquito to jab my guy

[hollow wing]

so the dead raiser amount of skeletons depends on the lvl?

[vapid jackal]

I had to laugh at that, and took a break from vanilla

[old echo]

one of the scariest close calls i had was when i'd gone exploring and found some plains and swamp next to each other, with me having to navigate a slither of plains to enter the swamp. An abomination appeared and was trying to draw it out to the meadows and get some easy shots in and on the way back a 2* Fuling aggro'd in that slither of plains. The abomination then attacked the Fuling and the Fuling demolished the abomination. Luckily the commotion had also attracted 3 draugr and the abomination had done enough to hurt the fuling so they took it down then i killed the draugr and walked away with all the loot

[night aspen]

sounds interesting, ive to look that up after i am done on my run 😄

[heady parcel]

Valheim at its best!

[uncut bough]

to defeat the elders and realize its forsaken power is so mid

50% less stamiina consumed for chopping trees? for real?

[vapid jackal]

Depends how much wood you need

Personally I used the trolls to chop wood

[vocal rivet]

Yeah, at that stage of the game, it's a great power, honestly.

[vapid jackal]

and mine metals

[uncut bough]

once i saw how trolls farm items for me, i could never do it the other way

[tardy horizon]

It doesn't reduce stamina consumed. Idk where you got that from

[merry pebble]

you chop them faster iirc

[uncut bough]

oh wait yea i forgot, it deals 60% more dmg, not 50% less stamina

it is even crappier than i expected holy moly

[hollow wing]

ive not used any other powers than bonemass

[tardy horizon]

That is much better than what you initially thought tho

[merry pebble]

its great when you need some amount of wood fast...

[tardy horizon]

Not great in comparison to other powers.

But not completely useless

[low crypt]

huh a deer seems to have spawned on my boat

[vocal rivet]

It's the second power in the entire game. It's not going to make you a god.

[tardy horizon]

Well, on that regard eikthyr's power makes you feel like one and you get it before elder's

[low crypt]

also i seem to have just gotten a dm from somone to advertise a server, should i report that or something?

[frigid gust]

I think my biggest issue is that it's rarely worth actually returning to spawn to switch to. Almost all of the others are.

[tardy horizon]

Yes. To modmail

[low crypt]

kk thanks

[vocal rivet]

Assuming they're in this server.

[low crypt]

the modmail seems to be going to a different server

[vocal rivet]

ModMail is a cross-server bot, so if you're on several servers that use it, you'll have to specify you mean this one.

[low crypt]

how exactly?

[vocal rivet]

There'll be a set of options in your DM with it.

[night aspen]

Is it actually exploiting if you build walls from ground?

[low crypt]

yea just sent it

[dense rapids]

You know why it's better to make 3 bonfires? It's trés bon! (sorry, bad word joke involving french, just had to get it out of my system)

[heady parcel]

The thing with the Elder's power that makes it feel underwhelming is not that it is bad - because it is good for basebuilders - but that it doesn't in any way improve your combat performance. Whereas Bonemass is pretty straightforward in that regard, and Eik's mobility boost is just about as good. Compared to those, I always thought "WTF"? when I read what the Elder's power would do...

Ergo, I have in 1300 hours of Valheim not activated the Elder power once. Nor Moder's, but that's just because lazy

[paper marsh]

damn why sleep on Moder

[vocal rivet]

Not Moder? Well, that's a strange one.

[paper marsh]

I'd say the lazy option would be using her

[heady parcel]

Because it is just for travel, once you get where you need to be you are better off with any other

I just don't mind the trip taking a few minutes longer

[tardy horizon]

That's assuming the seed favours you

You could reach a continent where there's no iron for example

[heady parcel]

If you want to make the most of Moder's power and the others you'd need to sail with moder and then at the minute you hit land pop back to get something else. I just can't be arsed with that, I'd rather paddle a bit

[brisk rose]

Is there a upgrade to the stagbreaker? I know there's other 2 handed blunt weapons but do any have the aoe smash that the stagbreaker has?

[frigid gust]

Yes. There are two later versions of it, the Iron Sledgehammer, and the Demolisher.

[brisk rose]

Oh okay I must not have the other materials for the sledgehammer then I figured there might be an iron equivalent

[frigid gust]

Yeah, you need a material from Haldor to make it, and a Draugr Elite trophy. It's a bit of a chore 😉 The Demolisher comes in at the Mistlands, so you've got a bit before that.

[brisk rose]

Ok thx

Does it have to be from haldor on the map that you defeated the elder? He's not selling anything different on the map that I go to trade with him

[strange dock]

hey yo is tehre anyone playing valheim in a server?

[dense rapids]

If only there was a "select all, mirror horizontally" function. I need to rebuild my stair for the 3rd time to make it fit better with the doors..

[strange dock]

im looking to find people to play the game

[frigid gust]

The Ymir Flesh is what you need.

[dense rapids]

go check #1024264966712340510

[brisk rose]

Ill check again

[strange dock]

thanks alot

[frigid gust]

The much harder to get ingredient is the Draugr Elite trophy... they're rare and tough in the Swamps to begin with, and the trophies are a fairly rare drop (10% chance I think)

[brisk rose]

Ok

Yeah I'm not seeing the flesh does it have to be on the same map that the elder was defeated?

[frigid gust]

Oh, yes. Yeah, Haldor's stock is related to the world state, which is based on what bosses are defeated. Sorry, didn't catch that the first time.

[brisk rose]

Oh ok

Root armor is what I want from the swamp over iron armor right?

[frigid gust]

It's your call. Iron armor is higher defense, root armor has various bonuses. I typically do prefer it, but not everyone does.

[brisk rose]

Ok

[merry pebble]

i go for iron pretty much everytime 😄 (tho i like the root too 😄 )

[brisk rose]

Root has no movement penalty +15 to bow skill and the chest has pierce resistance iron armor has like double the defense tho

[frigid gust]

It has 2% movement penalty vs 5% IIRC. The pierce resistance of the Harnesk makes it relevant even into the Mistlands though

[brisk rose]

Ya think I'll go iron can't pass up all that extra defense

[plush umbra]

Defense has diminishing returns

[brisk rose]

In 5% movement speed debuff isn't too bad

[frigid gust]

Don't need extra defense if you don't get hit 😉 But a mixed set with the Harnesk is pretty useful because it cuts piercing damage (like from bow draugr or deathsquitos) in half before calculating against your armor value. Piercing damage just tickles when you're wearing it.

[brisk rose]

I get hit quite a lot lol bad at dodging that's why I run a tower shield

Ok

[frigid gust]

Harnesk is worth it for you, then. Make the iron leg pieces and helm, but I'd make the Harnesk at minimum. See how it works, you can always replace it.

[brisk rose]

True makes sense you get the extra defense from the iron as well as the Pierce resistance

[plush umbra]

I just reread the damage mechanics page and that diminishing returns is not nearly as diminishing as I imagined

[velvet hornet]

some body wana play a fresh start

[brisk rose]

I'll definitely do that

[velvet hornet]

trolls´s cave

if you want to join

[rare birch]

saw my first gjall. Best way to defeat? Have barley wine and bonemass power for defence. Best offense?

[dense rapids]

they have a weak point, if you hit them there you do more damage

[rare birch]

I was thinking needle arrows

[dense rapids]

Hit them in the belly with arrows

[frigid gust]

Use the terrain to your advantage against their attacks, and be wary of the ticks they spawn

[brazen cave]

Damn, I hope that Iron Gate together with Brikk Animation will create another one great trailer ahead of Ashlands as they did with Mistlands.

[supple vortex]

sup guys

so this is the official discord server?

[vocal rivet]

Yep.

[strange arrow]

yes

[rare birch]

Ok got some bile bags and blood bags. I also was farming ooze earlier in the swamp at night and scored a Wraith Trophy! Of course i was fighting and abomination in the swamp at night when the wraith joined it lol

I guess I can't do much till I can get the black forge set up. I tell you Mistland really makes the Swamps seem not scary now

[strange owl]

About to embark on transporting my tamed wolves via longboat. Wish me luck fellow vikings

[brazen cave]

May they rest in peace

[rare birch]

I would only take a few at a time. They will also follow(swim) behind the boat if you sail slow. I island hopped a group back home one time. Took 2 days since I would stop and set up a quick overnight camp at dark.

[strange owl]

Thanks! I'm ganna try my hand at taking 4 on the longboat for about a days-length journey. Will update on success or failure

[rare birch]

Good luck!.

[kind pelican]

You can usually hear them from a mile away
Sneak and attack their weak spot for massive damage

You can sometimes deaggro and sneak attack them again if you crouch out of vision range

Their attacks can't break the ancient armor/swords or yggdrasil trees, so you can use them for cover

[strange owl]

Update: Tragedy struck during the open seas at nightfall. 1/4 of my wolves made it back. Poor guy watched his family get murdered by a sea serpent

[errant bane]

The rpg mape have a time line?
watched a vid it said end of feb or did that change?

[plush cedar]

starting a new modded playthrough. Super stoked, havent played in months

[hollow wing]

fire res, bow and arrows. with magic of course the ember/frost staff

[rare birch]

Yeah it was not bad. I got a few ticks but I had the root harnesk so they were easy. I also had like 15 wisp torches in the general area. It's a small patch of mistlands so just getting my feet wet

[rare birch]

Went wit dragur fang and needle arrows. Frostner took care of the ticks. I def had the fire resist wine and the bonemass power. It barely hurt me

[hollow wing]

yeah i used that til i got the staff

ticks are the worst though without fire res, gjall just ends up destroying you while ticks distracty

[regal spoke]

Dodge roll clearing them off was an aha moment

[hollow wing]

magic changes the whole mistlands experience. ticks are much less of a problem with a ember staff

[uncut bough]

goddamnit, just as i expected, swamp is nowhere to be seen, but a serpent is clearly visible

our ship took too much damage, it almost sank, so my friend disconnected the server

[hollow wing]

my run ins with serpent have been rare. and i've sailed a lot. only time i died from it was when going to the Eldar, never again, and only seen it a couple of times.

[uncut bough]

we happen to got the worst luck by sailing into Ocean Biome and it happened to rain at the same time, so the serpent just appears

[regal spoke]

Serpent spawn confirmed?

[blazing cloud]

Is there a mod that allows me to dig (remove ground) at a larger radius?

[plain bane]

Turn with the wind and full throttle it out of there. As long as you're not in a raft, you'll out-run him.

If you ARE caught by a serpent while in a raft... well, hope you weren't hauling anything expensive 😬

[regal spoke]

#mods-discussion yes

[plain bane]

They'll reconnect in the ocean where the ship was when they logged out, so be ready to play catch

[rigid copper]

Do y’all need some help getting back your bodies?

[blazing cloud]

thnx

[uncut bough]

It actually did Not outrun the serpent, i set the sail to max speed and it wasn’t against the wind, but the serpent caught up with ease

[uncut bough]

We disconnected the game in hope of despawning the serpent and getting the boat to a nearby shore to patch it up, but i might need some corpse retrieving service soon

It has quite a lot of important stuff there

Maybe about tmr, my friend slept and he hosts the server

[light moat]

Serpent caught up to Karve at max sail speed?

[uncut bough]

Yea

And i dont have to lie at all, cuz otherwise I wouldn’t be typing here and exploring the sea instead

[light moat]

Sorry to hear about your sea voyage!

[uncut bough]

Well maybe tmr we got better luck, for now our fate is partially sealed

I would legit cry if i die here, swamp is still nowhere in sight while i carry all the best stuffs on me

Including best food typed i cooked, like boar meat, stew/soup, meads

[light moat]

I’m guessing all your Black Forest great, upgraded and all?

[uncut bough]

Yessir

[light moat]

Oooh yeah, not a bad idea to leave some food at home in case of a death. Sorry man!

[uncut bough]

Yea hopefully then we recommect the serpent despawns

Otherwise we would seriously need some cleanup service

[light moat]

Honestly, if you’re feeling confident, you could try and fight them serpent if y’all have decent bows?

[paper marsh]

mobs tend to stay around. Although, if the serpent spawned at night it despawns when it becomes day

[uncut bough]

We did fight them, but me has to steer the ship so it doesnt turn into dead wind and strand ourselves, and my friend didnt do nearly enough damage

[uncut bough]

Oh but you see, my serpent spawns when we cross into ocean biome and it just so happened to rain at the same time

So the serpent spawned like 20 meters from our portside

[paper marsh]

Sounds like one that prob won't despawn

[light moat]

I love turning my cruise control on and leaning off the side of my boat and shooting serpents lol

[uncut bough]

But as i said, the serpent caught up

So idk if it is true that the karve will outrun the serpent but for my case it is a no, for some reason

[paper marsh]

ooh in that case heading to the coast is pretty solid. Can even prob kill the serpent from the shoreline

oh wait portside I thought that meant your dock

[light moat]

Solid way to get those drops 👀

[timber sky]

i beat all 6 bosses today

[uncut bough]

Portside as in, from the left of boat

Not like near port

Cuz we sailed so far away from home already

[light moat]

So y’all logged off while the serpent was attacking y’all??

I could never leave on such a cliffhanger 😂

[uncut bough]

We are quite literally hanging on a cliff already

We logged off when we dealt half the serpent health but the ship is now 1 health away from collapse

So, fingers crossed that it despawns

[light moat]

And your friend is already kinda getting bored with the game? Or was that someone else?

[uncut bough]

Last time our ship sunk by serpent, i happen to die first while my friend is bobbling on the ocean waiting for the ocean to kill him he disconnected

[uncut bough]

Same guy, but now he felt a bit more motivated

He was just frustrated with the progress, that is all, not finding swamp and all

Anyways, when we came back to server, i die and respawned at home ( of course) but he somehow still remains at the ocean

[light moat]

Ahh, unfortunate. I usually don’t struggle to find swamps, but sometimes I have a hard time finding crypts.

[uncut bough]

Even better, the serpent despawned, so i took like 4-5 days in game to craft another boat and set sail to fetch him

He just refused to die and respawn so in that 5 days he kept bobbling at the ocean

He said he didnt move so he didnt lose stamina, so no drowning

[light moat]

Lol that’s hilarious! Yeah, you don’t lose stamina if you don’t move, which is a little odd. But it’s helpful at times.

[paper marsh]

You can actually swim infinitely far if you have a lot of stamina potions. Because you can drink potions while swimming, and you can wait out the cooldown on it by just bobbing in the water not using stamina

Just beware if you do go to 0 stamina and then stop moving, you'll still drown because you're at 0 stamina in the water

[uncut bough]

At that time we didnt have potions, and we certainly didnt think of bringing any

[light moat]

What mead did you have?

[uncut bough]

Anyways, long story short, either tmr we successfully landed in the middle of nowhere, possibly near an undiscovered black forest, or die

[uncut bough]

Tasty mead and the other mead that i forgot

[light moat]

Best of luck 🫡

[uncut bough]

And i was so stupid throwing away the dwarf eyes when we landed on a undiscovered black forest, mistaking it for swamp

So by that time we could have created portals and go home, sleep, repair and go again, but now if i ever survive, i have to survive in the middle of nowhere with dwinding food supply

And having to farm those greydwarf for more eyes, 10 eyes to be exact

[light moat]

Sounds like an adventure opportunity!

[spare quest]

which valheim osts are you guys favourites?

[uncut bough]

i like when it goes mild

i turn the sound to minimum cuh my friend had to use airpod for about 2 hours and it runs out of battery, then switch to a mic that is so quiet that i can hear my heartbeat louder when a troll spawns right behind me

[rigid copper]

The sailing on the ocean Music

[light moat]

Honestly, meadows is one of my favorites. Frost caves cult is really good too imo

[rigid copper]

But i prefer discord sea shanties a bit more when sailing with people XD

[uncut bough]

i would have blasted "In the navy" if the sailing system was a bit more.....exciting

[paper marsh]

I wonder if Ashlands mobs will be Undead faction or a new one

[uncut bough]

and less dangerous, cuz serpent still scares us shiEtless

[paper marsh]

How would you want it to be exciting?

[rigid copper]

Just wait until the ocean biome overhaul comes out

Can’t wait for that

As of right now it’s just set the direction boot up YouTube on my second monitor and watch some Kaif for a bit

[uncut bough]

that is the thing, it is not the game, it is just us usually having a tough time navigating

so usually there are 99% of the downtime while sailing, minus the serpent encounter

[paper marsh]

Don't you have a map for navigating?

Or do you just mean it takes a long time to get places

[uncut bough]

it takes a long time to get places, and also we still have no clue where Swamp is

we have only seen more black forest and more meadows

[light moat]

That’s odd, swamps are pretty common. Sorry about your luck

[uncut bough]

wait, common? how common is it

[light moat]

Common enough to where I find them on every island except for my starter island haha

[paper marsh]

fairly common. I'd say I find one within 20 minutes of sailing typically

[uncut bough]

i must have the worst luck, encountering serpent before ever finding anything more significant

[paper marsh]

Eh serpents are pretty common

anyways I usually hope for finding serpents. Their drops are really good

[rigid copper]

If I look for something I never find it

If I don’t look for it I find a ton of them

[uncut bough]

so true

i was specifically begging for serpent to not spawn, and alas they did, now i panic

i also spot a tiny island in the middle of nowhere though, that is in Ocean biome

weird that it looks pretty....tiny in comparison to other biome

[paper marsh]

Swamps won't be right around the center of the map, so I'd suggest going in a straightline a bit away from spawn.

Usually though the challenge is to find a swamp with useful stuff in it, not to find a swamp

[paper marsh]

just try your best not to sail when it is storming or when it is night. They won't spawn at other times

[uncut bough]

that is why i said i got terrible luck, i sailed into Ocean and it rrained there

[paper marsh]

yea not always avoidable

[uncut bough]

like idk if it is me but the biome doens't look rainy until i cross into it, then suddenly cloud all went dark

and then the serpent just spawned 20 meters away from boat, and then we got a beating

[paper marsh]

At least you got a bit of experience and can prob do better next time

Serpents aren't too bad once you get used to them. I don't think I've ever died to one and I never try to avoid them

[uncut bough]

there was no lessons to be learnt, the weather did not occur at the other biome so we could forsee it and sail away. Like i would understand if there is a clear weather line that seperates where i am at and where i am heading into, so i would know the risk

instead the view in front of me was clear as any other day, and suddenly i cross into Ocean and then boom, rain

[spare grove]

Yeah, first time I faced a serpent solo, I was scared. But after a few arrows, it felt kinda weak. Now I welcome any serpents meat anytime

Oh, I lost the green icon thingy

[frigid gust]

For reference, each biome has it's own weather, and it's the same for every piece of that biome across the world. Serpents spawn in storms and at night in the Oceans.

[paper marsh]

I was more so meaning you learned more about how serpents move and how to deal with them, even if they're still a struggle

[uncut bough]

there is also none to have, it just rammed us until our boat got 1 hp, full speed ahead wont cut it

[frigid gust]

Serpents will die to enough arrows, and their meat floats 😉 If you're not in a raft, you should be able to hit full sail and have enough boat health and arrows to kill them

[uncut bough]

sure everything dies with enough arrow, problem is will i die first

[frigid gust]

If you get to it as soon as you see it and set a good heading, you can usually kill a serpent with a finewood bow and flint arrows before it destroys your boat

But a warning: if it was daytime and that serpent spawned, it will hang around until you kill it now, doesn't matter the weather.

[paper marsh]

Well maybe you can try a new strategy next time, and incorporate the feedback from the discord

Sounds like you were two people in a boat against a serpent. I've tried solo killing a serpent by just setting the boat to sail with the wind away from it and then shooting it on Very Hard difficulty so I know it should be possible. It is difficult tho especially because the boat gets in the way of shots but with practice you will get the hang of it

[odd marsh]

Sailing where the wind takes you while fighting the serpent

[regal spoke]

A few frost arrows to the face and they tend to clear off

[odd marsh]

If only we could mount the beast

[paper marsh]

This is in Black Forest progression but yea frost arrows do work wonders against just about all enemies

[paper marsh]

can't we?

[odd marsh]

We can?

[paper marsh]

I mean we can mount wolves and dragons and Gjall and such. Dunno why you shouldn't be able to get on a serpent. Might just be difficult to stay on if it thrashes around in the water

[tardy horizon]

Because ships would be pointless and having to find the middle ground between being able to ride them and ships remaining useful definitely doesn't seem worth the effort

[regal spoke]

From some of the things discussed. It seemed safe to assume frost arrows may be unlocked.

[regal spoke]

Jumping on its back like a golem would be fun though

[heavy goblet]

i just started playing yesterday and i havent done first boss fight any tips to go into it? im working on getting a bow right now to have on me when i go into the fight but anything else i might need?

[uncut bough]

armor, full 3 food slot with best food you can find

[heavy goblet]

you know how many arrows it might take to kill him?

[spare quest]

i think plains is my favourite

[uncut bough]

around 25-30, give or take

although you would not be spamming arrow too often to even reach taht number cuh Stamina

[plush umbra]

is 31 defense enough to fight bonemass

[paper marsh]

Yes. Just make sure to bring poison resist and blunt damage, and dodge out of the way of his swings

[plush umbra]

thanks so i need like a iron mace or something then?

[odd marsh]

Yes

[paper marsh]

Iron or bronze would be nice yea. An upgraded club would be useable but not the best

[plush umbra]

ive been using a silver knife this whole time i need to farm more iron thanks for the tips

[paper marsh]

skipped bonemass to get silver?

[plush umbra]

The stagbreaker thing

I decided if Im gonna fight him I want it to be easy

[odd marsh]

Bonemass is pretty chill

[paper marsh]

mhm. I usually skip him for a bit too

A ton of people skip him to get silver then immediately make a frostner to fight him with. It's pretty strong against him and saves you the iron

[plush umbra]

do I need to go into the caves to get frostner stuff?

should I get that instead?

[paper marsh]

Need to find Haldor (trader) and buy Ymir flesh from him

[plush umbra]

awesome I have no clue where that is

[paper marsh]

If you've found trader I'd say Frostner is a solid bet. It's a pretty OP weapon that's good for the rest of the current biomes in the game