valheim-chat

[languid root]

Skeletons are weak to blunt damage

[tardy coral]

I'm glad I crafted it

[gaunt sable]

I use stagbreaker to clear out my farm instead of clicking every carrot and turnip one at a time >_>

[regal spoke]

Does that actually harvest

[gaunt sable]

just dont do it before everything is grown

[regal spoke]

Now that's a trick I've not known.

[uncut spruce]

OMG WHAT THE HELL SWAMPS ARE SCARY AS FUCK

[languid root]

Welcome to the real game now

[gaunt sable]

Hey, don't do it I just had to double check

LOL so it works on flax and barley

Don't hammer your carrots

[languid root]

Not with carrots for sure. Later on with plains stuff

[regal spoke]

Heh OK

[uncut spruce]

this is honestly so awesome tho
literally walking around and suddendly trees get up from the ground while im also cold, not in comfort and wet so this is really hardcore rn

[regal spoke]

I knew plains worked. Most people seem to favor atgeir

[gaunt sable]

I envy your first time experience right now

[languid root]

This transition to swamp is the best imo. I love it so much

[regal spoke]

It does truly "get real"

[gaunt sable]

The swamp is such a curve of difficulty

[uncut spruce]

oh yeah its really difficult and gets creepy, im surprised that with those graphics it has so good atmosphere

[languid root]

'Life is not all sunshine and rainbows'

[uncut spruce]

also, it's 3:13 and I'm in a crypt rn, is it ok to leave the game right now? will i spawn back in the crypt?

[tardy coral]

Do boat graves always have treasures?

[languid root]

Yes

[tardy coral]

Like 100% all the time?

[languid root]

I think yes

[languid root]

Sure

[tardy coral]

You will spawn at the door I think

[uncut spruce]

appreciate it, and appreciate the tips and help, ty guys, have a good one

[tardy coral]

You too

[languid root]

No you will spawn the exact place where ylu saved

[languid root]

Good night

[tardy coral]

When I died, I logged out when the screen turned black

And I respawned alive at the entrance of a chamber

[languid root]

Because it was your last save there

[tardy coral]

But I logged out inside of the chamber tho

And when I logged in, I respawned outside

[languid root]

If you save or autosave inside a cave, you'll be inside

[tardy coral]

I wasn't inside tho

Guess it's a bug

[languid root]

You just logged out wo saving right?

[tardy coral]

Basically yeah

[languid root]

If you saved inside and logged out, you'd be inside

[tardy coral]

And I spawned outside of the chamber, but the items were inside, on my corpse

[languid root]

Wait what?

[tardy coral]

Yeah lol

I logged out right before the loading screen and it happened

[languid root]

You'll make me doubt the existence itself this way

[tardy coral]

I tried replicating it but I think it didn't work because I logged out too soon

[languid root]

Ok i got it

[pliant mountain]

This server was hacked again??

[tardy coral]

"Again"??

[vocal rivet]

Just the once.

[languid root]

The game still counts you dead but you spawned in the place of your last save/autosave

[tardy coral]

Pretty much yeah

[pliant mountain]

Ok, thanks

[tardy coral]

Cause I saved at the entrance lol

[languid root]

Then everything's fine

[tardy coral]

Not quite

Cause I was supposed to spawn on my bed, not where I saved

[languid root]

If you die you die you can't fix it with logging out

[tardy coral]

Explain this then

[languid root]

You would have spawned on your bed if you didn't log out

[vocal rivet]

The game is definitely behaving as expected.

[tardy coral]

The second time I logged out, I did spawn on my bed tho

[languid root]

But you logged out and relogged in as usual. But you were considered death cause the game doesn't forgive it

Does it make sense now?

[tardy coral]

Not really lol

I essentially respawned outside of the chamber, and not on my bed, that doesn't make any sense

Not to mention that when I tried replicating it, I did spawn on my bed

[languid root]

You can't be not dead if you died. That's it.

[tardy coral]

What? 💀

[languid root]

Ok i'm tired
Just believe it's ok

[tardy coral]

So am I

[plush umbra]

This place still hacked?

[tardy coral]

As you can see by our super casual chat, absolutely

[languid root]

And yeah, when you meet anything that looks serpent alike, don't touch it please. And pass this information to 2-3 of your friends. Cheers and gl

[plush umbra]

Uh oh

[tardy coral]

I'm joking

[plush umbra]

Ik lmao

[tardy coral]

Ok...?

[languid root]

Don't think, instincts should work for you

[tardy coral]

I hope so

[plush umbra]

Very hard difficulty is pretty cool

[plush umbra]

Yes

[pearl rock]

i made big brain decision to break carts on boat to get more storages via the boxes and storm destroyed them sinking like 8 stacks of iron and silver :3

[plush umbra]

You could always sail with the carts just in the boat as well but a storm will give you the same results

[pearl rock]

haha yep i realized that now lol atleast the cart can take like 200 damage

compared to 40 XD or whatever those things took

[plush umbra]

I’ve lost 8 full carts before in a storm

[regal spoke]

Being on a karve in rough seas is deadly

[plush umbra]

i wish they would add back the voice channe;s

[regal spoke]

It's coming

[lunar sapphire]

In due time traveller, in due time

https://tenor.com/view/cat-patience-cat-cute-pets-gif-5544229

[gaunt sable]

but if voice channels came back I'd be tempted to drunkenly exist in one

[regal spoke]

Not easy rising from the ashes

[plush umbra]

I’d listen if it’s entertaining

Guys I made it into bronze but I don’t like the world I’m on, do you guys think I’m too far to start on a fresh world with my character? Or should I start a new one

[tepid pike]

you can start new worlds and new characters whenever you like, or play a new world with your existing character @plush umbra

[plush umbra]

Well I know that lol, I don’t think I’m too far into the game so I’ll just switch worlds

[visual sparrow]

How does this game always know exactly where you’re going to always put the wind against you

In the boat

[gaunt sable]

like it totally doesnt

but it does

[visual sparrow]

Some black magic

[gaunt sable]

and then if you get moder buff

you suddenly always have tailwind so you never needed to use your power

[visual sparrow]

Classic

[smoky quarry]

sacrifice a chicken to Neptune before sailing

oh wait, wrong timeline

[odd helm]

Sacrifice a chicken to thor instead

Use the obliterator

[gaunt sable]

I want ancient bark wood piles

[wise latch]

Have they ever mentioned if they plan on making more magic weapons so they show up earlier in the future, to get more of a progression feel?

Or are they permanently just mistlands

[gaunt sable]

I think magic weapons are appropriately introduced in mistlands due to what is "available" in prior biomes

They'd have to over-haul the progression a bit if they wanted to add like wands or something that used surtling cores

[wise latch]

It wouldn't take much I imagine

[gaunt sable]

There is also a lack of any mobs using magic, so I could almost argue that you don't even concieve using magic until you see the wizards in the mistlands and your viking goes "Omg wait"

[vocal rivet]

Earlier in the future? So...now?

Sure, the shaman never use magic

[gaunt sable]

One zone before mistlands

I think if they added more items in the plains it'd be fine

[vocal rivet]

It's fine now.

[gaunt sable]

Also true

[plush umbra]

Is the shamans poison spray magic? I thought it was spores

[nimble dirge]

Is just bad breath

[plush umbra]

Oh goblin shamans right

[vocal rivet]

The shield certainly is.

[plush umbra]

Tva moment

[azure yacht]

Permanently mistlands to DN

No, they probably won't add magic to earlier biomes

Mistlands is the only biome so far with a magic material (eitr) necessary to craft magic staves

[valid coyote]

Why is fishing soooo bad in this game

[wise latch]

Bummer

[rain flare]

Stamina
Technique
Etc

[rain flare]

Try doing your fishing from a boat - and don’t throw your line out to it’s full length

Just drop it within 3-6 m from your boat and reel in the spoils when silly fishies take a bit

At low fishing skill levels it’s just not practical to catch fish any other way

[wise latch]

Different fish just give the same meat right, side from the amount due to weight

[rain flare]

Same meat - only mistland fish is unique

That can be used in a special recipe for super stamina 🤩

[subtle zodiac]

The diff between shaman poison and the leech is no joke

No wonder people hate the swamp

[gaunt sable]

bumping up the difficulty to hard from normal makes leech poison and blob poison pretty much 100%-0 you if you don't have any resist

I'm having a hard time trying to get wolf jerky out of my food I use all the time just because of its 30 minute duration

[rain flare]

I like that one

If possible, I like sausages, wolf kebab, and woof jerky

All 30 minute durations with decent stamina and beefy health

[gaunt sable]

I'm currently using lox meat pies and blood pudding with wolf jerky because 30 minutes lol

[gray nexus]

I mix 30 mins and 25 mins all the time

I just wait the extra 5 mins for the 25 mins food instead of eating right away. Keeps things even, and doesn't affect much imo

[rain flare]

Mmmmm plains meats 😋

[civic escarp]

What is the recommended difficulty setting when playing with epic loot?

[rain flare]

Epic loot is a mod right?

Can’t really help with that - sorry 🙈

[tepid pike]

try #mods-discussion

[odd marsh]

god damn i fell asleep till 4pm lmao

[fair cairn]

thats a waste of time

[odd marsh]

not really. didnt have class soo yea luckily

[marsh zealot]

is ashland on beta test right now?

[hollow pine]

not yet in public beta test

[opal prairie]

Morning gjall.

[odd marsh]

i love how we could see the silhouette of another mountain from afar

[odd marsh]

||the mountain cave||feels cozy ngl, feels like id be here if i were a wild mountain viking.

[bright rock]

Make friends with the bats and your homey furry cult

Probably should keep away from Jeff the stone golem in the lowest floor, he prefers privacy

[odd marsh]

👀 jeff? he lives here?

[opal prairie]

He was only visiting but he decided to stay a while and harken.

[odd marsh]

hmmm he doesnt seem to be here oh well

[vague bolt]

WHEN VOICE CHATS?

[lunar sapphire]

they're active rn

[odd marsh]

its active now

[opal prairie]

Lucky, he isn't the cleanest of guest, leaves his litter all over the place and sometimes wrecks stuff.

[odd marsh]

ima go try find him.

[cyan herald]

you got 11 channels to pick from

[exotic cradle]

pick neck pond

[odd marsh]

why that specific channel? if you dont mind me asking

[exotic cradle]

cutest!

[eternal swan]

Hello. I am back 🤣🤣🤣

I left the discord when hacked.
Now i am glad to be back here

[cyan herald]

https://tenor.com/view/welcome-back-minions-gif-11950499

[abstract bloom]

so how did the hackers do it? Somebody's profile was hacked? Hope everyone's ok

[odd marsh]

think it was one of the devs account got hacked, not sure

[exotic cradle]

#general message

[cyan herald]

it was a long chain of chacks afaik

so next time. don't just casually assume files sent to you are harmless. even if it's from a person you know

[odd marsh]

oh god i almost got yeeted off the mountain\ by jeff

[vital terrace]

I'm missing the seeds channel. has that one been forgotten or did Iron Gate decide they don't want that channel anymore?

[hollow pine]

seed channel is in the works afaik

[vital terrace]

excellent

[exotic cradle]

#suggestion-discussion message

[odd marsh]

||golem|| are they supposed to be glittery? oh wait nvm

[elder maple]

All the shit stopped or nah?

[cyan herald]

stopped long time ago

[elder maple]

Aye well I got kicked out of the server

[obtuse cloud]

should 100 needle arrows be enough for elder?

[frozen void]

Yeah lol

[hollow pine]

didn't test needle arrows on elder but i guess that amount will be more than enough

[obtuse cloud]

Or maybe should I use fire arrows to safe up my needle for mountains

Hmmmm tough choice

[hollow pine]

i only use wooden and obsidian arrows in the mountains 😅

[frozen void]

Fire arrows will deal 55 damage per arrow, needle 62

[hollow pine]

wait, needle arrows work better on golems than obsidian ones?

[frozen void]

Well, technically?

26 vs 31 damage

Its not like its effective anyway

[cyan herald]

about 100,000 people where kicked by hackers 🥲

[obtuse cloud]

I... just died to a elder LOL
because first troll appeared out of nowhere and after that 1 star greydwarf brute, 1 normal greydwarf brute attacking me

[hollow pine]

why the heck did i think they are useless on golems? XD learnt something new, thx!

[opal prairie]

Found him have you?

[odd marsh]

yea seems like he was outside the cave

i think iv played too much shifu, that the movement felt slow

[obtuse cloud]

who is jeff

[odd marsh]

jeff the big rock

[obtuse cloud]

okay so now i know 2 names for him lmao

[opal prairie]

#valheim-chat message

[obtuse cloud]

jeff and big boi

jeff the big boi 😂

[balmy seal]

It's crazy to think Discord servers can have that many people in them.

[cyan herald]

we peaked around 225k before

[balmy seal]

😯

[cyan herald]

when mistland came out. alot of people joined ofc

then down to about 190k 🤔

so I expect the server to overflow again when ashland testing starts

[obtuse cloud]

well geometry dash dsc server have 1mln users XD

[cyan herald]

crazy

you have to apply for server size tho. up to 125k is no problem

after that. you have to ask for more slots in steps

125k, 250k etc etc

[balmy seal]

Hot damn

[obtuse cloud]

i remember i tried join valheim on my new account and it said "max server limit"

one time

[vital terrace]

thanks!

[hollow wing]

god damn 2 star trolls hit hard

im baiting him to a fuling village hopefully he can clean it up

[grave bone]

Hey, you are back!

[drowsy magnet]

Maybe 2 or 3 fulings, it doesn't stand a chance against a berserker 💀

[obtuse cloud]

i think i should make poison resistance potion before going to sunken crypts

[hollow wing]

he killed all of them

[drowsy magnet]

Must be a small village

[obtuse cloud]

"Trolls employ massive yet slow attacks that are easy to avoid but very hard to block and parry." just read that from wiki
ig im good at game then because my strat on trolls is basically parring

[fallen zephyr]

I found them a nightmare early, but suddenly quite trivial by the time you're comfortable with swamp exploration.

[drowsy magnet]

True they were scary at first, but now I use them to smash the ground where there's copper and the copper just pops out from underground

[merry pebble]

Be sure to do that 😄

[tardy coral]

It's not that they're hard to parry

They just deal too much damage

Are there any strats/tricks to cook loads of meat in the early game?

[exotic cradle]

You can place multiple food racks on one fire ^^ if that's what you're asking

[tardy coral]

Is that the fastest way?

[exotic cradle]

Well, yeah, you still gotta wait for it to cook a few seconds

Just spam E, it's pretty fast as is!

[tardy coral]

😭

Are valuables only used for selling?

[opal prairie]

and decorations.

[tardy coral]

Alright

Is it possible to improve the smelter's speed??

[toxic rose]

Use more smelters

[tardy coral]

Fair enough

On average, how many coals are used per copper ingot?

[frozen void]

2

[tardy coral]

Oh perfect

Is it always 2 for any ore?

[frozen void]

yeah

used to be 21 for 10, but i think they fixed it

[merry pebble]

Yep, Its 20 per 10 now, tho on servers it sometimes does weird stuff

[exotic cradle]

its just lag ^-^

[merry pebble]

Yeah thats what i mean 😄 there Is usually more lag on servers than in solo play

[near inlet]

it'd be nice if they made it 19 for 10 for this reason tbh

[merry pebble]

Well i don't think it would be neceseary to change a game mechanic just because it CAN act weird when there Is a lag, as laggy game is not normal/default state of the game

[lusty crescent]

I do be putting 24 coal in a 20 coal furnace

[drowsy magnet]

Spam click faster and you could load 50 or more

[vague heart]

is there a build chat in this server where we can share our buildings.was in the last dc server but im not finding one here

[frozen void]

it's on its way back

[merry pebble]

unfortunately it was not restored yet

[vague heart]

ok thanks

[merry pebble]

tho you can ofcourse post screenshots in #screenshots 😄

[hollow wing]

i was hoping the lox could be commanded to sit like the one Haldor has, it seems not. its quite destructive actually

[merry pebble]

i don´t think Halstein sits tho...🤔

[hollow wing]

I think he does

[merry pebble]

i just came home, i will start the game and look 😄

[hollow wing]

i think it does stand actually but it just seems like he's sitting

goal today is to build a big ass farm

so that i can have thousands of carrots

[smoky quarry]

Halstein has a food bowl though

and doesn`t WONDER about trying to kill anything else. Good boi

[merry pebble]

He has his carrots and Hallon and Blåbär have their turnips 😄 so why would they try to kill anything 😄

[merry pebble]

all loxes of the merchants are standing 😄

[silver shoal]

When Ashlands?

[opal prairie]

Somewhen in the first half of this year.

[odd helm]

The bots ain't back yet guys

[merry pebble]

Ashlands will be out in first half of 2024
There will be public test beta

[opal prairie]

I keep forgetting.

[obtuse cloud]

does sleeping make farming vegetables faster?

[odd helm]

Sorta, yeah

Sleeping will skip time forward to the next morning

This accelerates some timed tasks like farm growth and ore smelting

[olive dagger]

sleeping make everything faster

[merry pebble]

no, not your consumption of food for example

[olive dagger]

yeah well on mind i had the smelting/growing things etc xd

[merry pebble]

those were mentioned tho 😉

[olive dagger]

yeah

[clever drum]

can i join?

[olive dagger]

join where?

[merry pebble]

if you want to join someone to play with you can look in #1024264966712340510 😄

[clever drum]

whoever is playing

ok

[prisma swift]

So i have a question , when we say dedicated server it is a server we rent for a month at a price , is this correct ?

And so what is an lfg ?

[hollow pine]

lfg = looking for group

[cyan herald]

dedicated servers are free or paid. depends if you host yourself or if a friend does it.
or if you rent a server from a hosting company

[tardy coral]

Are snow mountains a biome?

[olive dagger]

yes

[wary bane]

Mountain is the 4th Biome in usual progression yes

[cyan herald]

unless you are in the very very top of the map.
because that is called "deep north" and are yet another snow biome

[hollow wing]

means run s regardless of players whether they are in the game or not

[tardy coral]

Which biome comes after the black forest? Snow or swamp?

[obtuse cloud]

swamp

[fallen zephyr]

Correct. LFG doesn't require a dedicated server, it's just people looking for folks to play with. It's probably worth asking, when engaging with LFG requests, whether they have a dedicated server or not. If not, you'll be limited on your log-ins to times when the server owner is also logged in.

[obtuse cloud]

will be there more biomes than these that already are on map?

[plush umbra]

I just hope they revisit more ocean development

[fallen zephyr]

Ashlands is next (far south). Far North is after that.

[obtuse cloud]

yeah ik, but after these, will be there more biomes or after defeating north boss its the end of the game

[cyan herald]

--> #faq

[plush umbra]

That roadmap that had customizable ships and an ocean boss will always give me hope even if it was specifically abandoned

[prisma swift]

Oh okay , i was not sure about the terms used , but i do have my dedicated server that just got renewed, i forgot to drop it, so for a month i do not know what should i do with it , i just finished a heavily modded playtrough , started with friends but finished alone , so for now im either looking to play another game or do something with it

[obtuse cloud]

ah yes sorry, so basically after deep north there will be ending of the game, right?

[cyan herald]

yes

it's alright. Even I forgot about FAQ before 😄

[plush umbra]

Or there will be sea monster after deep north 👹

I refuse to give up hope things can always change

[obtuse cloud]

So we should expect ending of the game in late 2025, considering fact that new biome is taking around 1 year to develop

[plush umbra]

I do really like that valheim help channel is above servers and lfg now that was weird when it was separated by that

[obtuse cloud]

I remember when valheim announce on steam, there was a note that early access will be for 1 year lmao

[cyan herald]

there was no such note 🤔

[obtuse cloud]

Hmm

[exotic cradle]

silly, valheim wont end

[tardy coral]

Which bronze items are a priority?

[smoky quarry]

maybe it was a sticky note :p

[cyan herald]

we did post a "this is what our plans for this year is"

[fair wolf]

bronze buckler my beloved after axe and maybe cultivator

[plush umbra]

Axe for fine wood

[cyan herald]

but never anything else saying game would fully release in 2022🤔

[tardy coral]

Why's that?

[plush umbra]

Cultivator

Smiffe are you part of the original valheim team? Idk anything about the teams growth or original members

Thanks autocorrect for calling him sniffs

[smoky quarry]

sniffs what>

[fair wolf]

unless you are on hardest difficulty you can then parry basically everything for 1.5 biomes

[plush umbra]

Probably draugr sniffin they look like they have the most flavor

[tardy coral]

Aren't round shields better than bucklers overall?

[plush umbra]

Bucklers have better parry

[smoky quarry]

how about sniffing bonemass

[fair wolf]

never block always parry

[tardy coral]

Fair enough

[merry pebble]

stinky

[plush umbra]

Nah you’re suppose to eat bonemass since he’s made out of delicious jello

Oooo if we had a boss that could be farmed for food that’d be entertaining

[tardy coral]

Time to get my booty eaten by a troll

[plush umbra]

Kraken boss you kill for tako

[plush umbra]

I wouldn’t phrase it any other way…..

[tardy coral]

I can't cut ONE fucking pine tree without a troll coming to beat my shit

[gray nexus]

use troll to cut pine trees

put the blue bois to work

[tardy coral]

Fr

TWO FUCKING TROLLS BRUH

AND ONE HAS A MF STICK 😭

PLEASE TELL ME THEY CAN DAMAGE EACHOTHER

[frozen void]

No

[plush umbra]

The stick one is the fun one

That wind up animation is so slow and misleading

[frozen void]

Mobs from the same faction cant damage each other

[paper marsh]

bring them to a swamp and watch them die 😄

Of course, you'll probably die too tho. And you probably haven't seen any swamps yet

Trolls do give very good armor tho, just gotta shoot them down with a bow and be patient

[obtuse cloud]

There was such a note, but... instead of saying we want to complete the game in 1 year, it said "for at least 1 year the game will be in early access"

😂

[frozen void]

Thats the opposite of what you said

[paper marsh]

shield, axe, cultivator, 80 nails (for a boat), and then building the forge, upgrades to forge/woorkbench, and a fermentor (preferably two fermentors)

[elder maple]

I would be one of em them

[cyan herald]

ah yes 🙂
it was so long time ago, anyone can/will have a memory-leak from those dark days

[near inlet]

I'd say the order of priority is forge, cultivator, axe, cauldron, fermenter, nails

[frozen void]

Id say nails is much sooner so you can cart more ore home faster

[near inlet]

IF you already have seeds

ah, this guy carts ;p

only time I've built a cart in this game is to whack a dvergr ward :p

[obtuse cloud]

i did axe (for fine wood for teleports), then i think nails, then the whole set

[paper marsh]

I never cart in bronze age, just setup near copper node. And for all other ages I typically opt for running and sailing over carting

Carts are great for throwing silver off mountains

[near inlet]

yup exactly. ESPECIALLY in bronze age when you will probably have black forest close to meadows base. Why cart, when it is probably only a 2-5min run

[tardy coral]

I like carting a lot tbf

[paper marsh]

I'd agree but add bronze shield to the end

[tardy coral]

Specially when trolls start throwing big ass rocks at my cart

[near inlet]

I usually make shield even before nails foe a karve tbh

[paper marsh]

throw arrows back at them

[near inlet]

buclker is just too good

[tardy coral]

I just poke their feet with my spear

[paper marsh]

Eh shield feels kinda useless until you engage swamp and I usually sail to that

[near inlet]

shield for parruing trolls haha

[paper marsh]

I'm annoyed tho on hard mode I'm having to upgrade some of my gear to survive (especially shield) and mining copper is so boring

[frozen void]

If you make a workbench under the copper deposit to repair you can finish the entire thing without heading home, then cart all the stone and copper back in one trip

[paper marsh]

oh yea I don't do that. Not a fan of getting oneshot through a shield

[tardy coral]

Trolls are the Margit of Valheim istg

[near inlet]

that's why you HAVE to parry lol

[paper marsh]

A stick troll on hardmode absolutely breaks through your parry. Until you get an iron shield (maybe an upgraded one).

[strange arrow]

all on meadows food presumably

[merry pebble]

atgeirs are working wonders against trolls 😄

[tardy coral]

Why are damage numbers yellow when I hit a troll with a spear

[frozen void]

Anyway, 1 bronze for 2 carts is a good bargain early imo

[frozen void]

Yellow means theyre weak. Trolls are weak to pierce

[tardy coral]

Nice

[frozen void]

Which is also arrows

[strange arrow]

also you'll get bonus damage for the classic with trolls, go for the head

[paper marsh]

BF food typically. I tend to go for double hp but sometimes do one hp one jerky one stam, once in a while double stam

oh yea atgeirs are almost banned from my run. Abusing the middle click is too tempting and cheesy

[frozen void]

Grey means reduced dmg. White normal, yellow increased

[merry pebble]

its their intended use tho 😄

[paper marsh]

I don't like the game being intended to be easy 😭

[strange arrow]

anything less than swamp food 100+hp and a few skill lvls in block and i wouldn't attempt it, but well equipped enough it's likely possible to take them on, bronze buckler has an insane parry bonus for it's early availability

[frozen void]

I still have not used the atgeir, ever. 1.5k hours in

[rain flare]

White numbers is neutral to the type of damage you deal
Grey is resistant and you do less damage
Yellow means you do more damage and the mob is weak to that kind of attack - whether it’s an elemental type of damage or physical

[tardy coral]

Gotcha

[frozen void]

Not really knives either

[tardy coral]

Is the Atgeir worth crafting?

[strange arrow]

a few mobs have weak spots as well, worth noting those

[tardy coral]

Like?

[strange arrow]

trolls seeker soldiers and Gjalls

[tardy coral]

I might have to start using bows 🤮

[strange arrow]

possibly more to come

[strange arrow]

for an easy run sure

[urban stream]

I made one recently and I liked it. It's a stamina hog if you like to just constantly attack

[strange arrow]

as with any weapon the real question is if yr going to get enough value from using it at that stage, unless it's Mistlands tier in which case that atgeir is very worthwhile

i never mained it all the way through a run but the times i did use it were fun

[plush umbra]

I just don’t like the lost mobility of atgeirs personally

Knives forever so I’m fast af boi

[faint nebula]

I wish we got something like Skoll and Hati at plains level for those darn deathskeetos

[rain flare]

Atgir is one of the best weapons in the game

[rain flare]

It has a guaranteed stun AOE attack as it’s secondary

And it has very good reach.

The only other weapon like it is the battleaxe - which also has a stun secondary, but a big swing main attack

[plush umbra]

I wish we had an earlier unarmed option

Like stag or bronze gauntlets

[faint nebula]

heh. antler claws

[plush umbra]

Greydwarf knuckles and it’s just made from greydwarf trophies

[near inlet]

ONLY downside is the stamina use

[urban stream]

I love it for trolls

[near inlet]

boy howdy does that thing eat stamina for breakfast

[rain flare]

It’s kinda the opposite of the Atgir thinking about it.

Atgir has single target main attack with reach, and a secondary AOE with guaranteed stun

Battleaxe has a multi hit main attack and a single hit guaranteed stun secondary with great reach

[near inlet]

and a later game as well. The claws fall off pretty hard in mistlands

[smoky quarry]

atgeir is fantastic weapon.

[near inlet]

maybe we will get another one in ashlands

[smoky quarry]

A fire mace would be nice, like a torch

[near inlet]

I'd kill for another 1h mace

1h maces, 1h swords and polearms are my fav weapons

[smoky quarry]

And shotguns. I like

[urban stream]

Skoll and Hati but they're lightsabers. Wait...

[smoky quarry]

cutting trees made easy

[paper roost]

not really

[near inlet]

ehh maybe it's just cuz mine aren't upgraded to max

[plush umbra]

I mean they are physical against resistant mobs

[near inlet]

Pierce is best physical in msitlands except against Queen ironically

I wish it was consistent like it is in swamp

[half dragon]

After being done dirty in the swamps, they decided piercing is allowed to be good rest of the game 😂

[hollow wing]

Trying to mine this big ass stone thing in Plains but it aint dropping

so was that removed or what?

[plush umbra]

Dig deeper

You often won’t see what part is still connecting it

[hollow wing]

How could it be connecting when i see that nothing is connecting it? It's just floating now

[plush umbra]

That’s what I mean by you won’t see it

[strange arrow]

hitbox logic

[plush umbra]

It’s invisible but still connected, go deeper

[paper roost]

this is so misleading, really

[hollow wing]

that is funny

[plush umbra]

Is it? Aren’t the bugs resistant to all physical

[frozen void]

Hitbox on big boulders can be 2 meters or more

[paper roost]

only seekers and they are easy to kill with anything

[plush umbra]

Are they not the bulk of what you’re hitting with melee

[hollow wing]

seems to me a big waste of time

[plush umbra]

That’s why I dont bother mining out under things unless its with a new player who wants to try it

[grand pagoda]

Is there a way to make the default color on signs white? Black is almost impossible to see and I get that it's cause you use charcoal but chalk rock works just the same.

It's so annoying typing the color code for white every time I make a sign.

[hollow wing]

when its supposed to me give me hundreds of stone it seems very worth it

[merry pebble]

just dig more then...

[hollow wing]

another star 2 troll, what is going on lol

[exotic cradle]

free skins/labor, win win either way

[hollow wing]

would be great if i was going to a fuling village but i am trying to mine out this thing. have like 60hp cant fight it that easily

[plush umbra]

I wish I could find a 2 star troll:(((

[hollow wing]

getting food properly still is hardest, trying to build a very big farm today

[paper roost]

yes, they are, but also least dangerous in mist

[bright rock]

Are you doing hard mode?

[dense patio]

Hi. Do flying monsters have an upward flight limit? (I want to build high earthen walls, in case they don't fly over them)

[merry pebble]

they can go over earthen walls

[hollow wing]

time to let out lox to fight this fool

[hollow wing]

no

[paper roost]

i m currently on hardcore combat difficulty, why?

[dense patio]

Is it possible to protect the base from them from above?

[paper marsh]

put a roof on your base

[merry pebble]

you can try spawnproofing everything, also|| balistas are an option|| <mistlands spoiler

[exotic cradle]

How far in the game are you?

[bright rock]

2 star trolls arent that scary and food becomes abundant soon if you go hunt often

[bright rock]

Have you tried that uh dark metal tower shield?

[hollow wing]

they are scary if you have 60 hp lol

[plush umbra]

Roof smoof open wall bases for life

[bright rock]

They still move as slow as a normal troll

[hollow wing]

one hit and you're dead

[bright rock]

Just have 1800 hp, kite them around with bow and they will die eventually

[dense patio]

I just installed the game. I want to immediately start building a base with protection from air attacks from monsters, so as not to lose buildings and animals later.

[plush umbra]

If you don’t block

[dense patio]

don't they hit the roof?

[paper roost]

i dont do tower shields, also hesitating to use atgeir, but its not a joke sometimes

[plush umbra]

You can survive a troll hit on very hard they only do 40 when blocked with bronze buckler

[odd helm]

You're quite a ways away from having to worry about air monsters

[paper marsh]

Yes. But if they hit the roof at least they don't hit you or the inside of your base

[exotic cradle]

it's gonna be a WHILE before you get any sort of aerial attacks, I'd say enjoy the game and don't worry too much about it for now ^^ you'll get much stronger materials later on that will help you more!

[hollow wing]

i have wolf armor and lvl 2 silver shield

[bright rock]

I personally have not seen how damaging seekers can be in mistland hardcore but i think towershield should still be able to tank most damage from lower seekers atleast

[plush umbra]

Then one hit won’t kill you if you block

[hollow wing]

it's just a dangerous thing to fight a star 2 troll headon if you have 60hp

[plush umbra]

That’s true

[hollow wing]

i mean its dangerous to fight anything nplains with that little hp

[bright rock]

Fisting a troll is a fun experience

[plush umbra]

Even meadows food gets you up above that hp wise though

One of my last deaths was getting cocky fosting a troll

[hollow wing]

well i dont have much food

[dense patio]

I want to be prepared before this happens. My construction area, placement of buildings, animals and chests depend on what kind of protection there will be

[paper roost]

i m not in mistland yet, but can imagine serpent scale shield can work pretty good against seekers

[plush umbra]

I’m guess you build more than you collect

[merry pebble]

you will have to depend on roofs until you get to mistlands unfortunately

[exotic cradle]

It's not until the final biome and after defeating the current final boss that you'd need to worry about this, you will have a hard time protecting your base with just the basic materials if you only just got the game

[odd helm]

What you can build will also heavily depend with your progression, though. I'd suggest progressing normally until about the third biome and unlocking the materials there to build a more defensible stronghold, that's just before the first aerial raid becomes available.

[hollow wing]

doesnt really matter what i collect, if i go into mountains wolves dont spawn enough in daytime to get enough food. in night time maybe

[paper marsh]

I haven’t seen the damage firsthand but their attacks should generally be 240 damage before counting resistance and armor. If you have root armor it halves it to that of a normal mode seeker

[paper roost]

not if shaman comes to heal the troll 😄

[paper marsh]

Assuming hardcore mode is very hard difficulty

[paper roost]

yes

[plush umbra]

You could easily have a ton of sausages but that also sounds like a small mountain

[hollow wing]

well im just building a big farm to make a ton of black soup

[plush umbra]

That’s fair

[hollow wing]

not sure how big but i probably want to have like 100 carrot/100 turnip seedlings

[dense patio]

After which boss or stage will the first air raid happen? (I’ll at least know approximately the time)

[odd helm]

After the third boss is defeated

[toxic rose]

After swamps

[paper marsh]

Really? One wolf should last you an entire day in the mountains. I guess if you get unlucky it’s tough tho

Just make sure not to use wolf food outside of exploring mountains or plains

[burnt star]

Can anyone confirm whether or not resistance from armor and potions stack?

[paper marsh]

Does not

[burnt star]

Root mask + poison resistance for example

[odd helm]

They don't, highest takes priority

[burnt star]

That's a shame, thanks though!

[paper marsh]

Sometimes potions give bigger resistances than gear tho

[dense patio]

Thanks all for the advice and sorry for the bad english (I’m writing using google translator)

[light moat]

I like to have farms that can hold 50 of a crop, be it seed or vegetable.

[exotic cradle]

i like that we're chatting here cuz no one wants to combo-break general chat 👀

[light moat]

I definitely don’t want to be that guy who breaks it lol

[bright rock]

A normal seeker doing 240?

[plush umbra]

I’m surprised the cake chain hasn’t been broken

[exotic cradle]

dont you dare

[plush umbra]

Usually on any discord we’ve got a troll to ruin it

Now I’ve jinxed it though so it’ll happen soon

[hollow wing]

i dont know how long do i have to keep picking at this big stone pillar in plains for it to drop, it really seems like a wild goose chase

[fair wolf]

🧹 mods are deleting

[exotic cradle]

it will pop before you know it!

[exotic cradle]

as they should

[hollow wing]

i wish it did, but its just not

[paper marsh]

on very hard? yea. on normal mode seekers do 120 on most attacks, very hard doubles it

Add 2 stars to them and you're at 480 damage/hit

[toxic rose]

If you could reach some stone by your pickaxe then you must to dig it, and only after it drop

[paper marsh]

That's also why I'm such a big supporter of root chest on higher difficulty. On normal difficulty it'll save you 60 damage (120-->60). On very hard it'll save you double the pain (240-->120)

[hollow wing]

i was digging the earth under it, then i started the rock and after some it fell apart

[paper marsh]

I'd recommend root chest so you can still have a high block armor shield that can parry

[toxic rose]

Could you send your progress to #screenshots

[bright rock]

Ah so it just double the damage enemies do then, easier to devise what to do

[hollow wing]

i just got im being hunted in plains near a small mountain patch lol

[paper marsh]

hunted happens in both mountains and plains

[bright rock]

If you killed moder it can still trigger normally

[hollow wing]

wolves pretty stupid though so in a hole they cant do anything

[paper marsh]

I love when it happens in plains tho bc wolves are hostile to everything in plains. In mountains you gotta get lucky and have a golem to smash through them

[hollow wing]

now i just need my fuling friends to come and help me

[toxic rose]

Hoe is tool of gods

[hollow wing]

i guess technically you are being hunted can be a way to farm food in a hole, i think they respawn a lot if you kill them while in you are being hunted event

[paper marsh]

Hoe is tool of cowards

[burnt star]

Is it the same with resistances provided by Yagluth's power?

[hollow wing]

i wonder if its worth it to try fighting all 6 of them with a frostner,

[burnt star]

No stacking resistances of any kind? Yagluth's power, potions, gear?

[paper marsh]

Nope

[burnt star]

Is there a table somewhere with a list of what provies the most of each type of resistance? I've yet to find one and am looking

[paper marsh]

Something important to notice though is how resistances can overide weaknesses. It is a popular move going root chest for the pierce resist, and then drinking a fire resist potion to negate root chest weakness (potion negates weakness but STILL gives you the full fire resist it normally would. Just like if you weren't wearing flammable wood on your chest)

[hollow wing]

frostner seems the best when fighting a pack of them, i just killed like 2 before they got to me with 60hp

[paper marsh]

frostner is quite nice. Bow and arrow is too if you have high bow skill

[burnt star]

So in these two situations:

1. Fire resistance potion and root set (fire weakness)
2. Fire resistance potion and iron armor

Your fire resistance is the same?

[toxic rose]

You could start from this:
https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Resistance

[paper roost]

yeah, i m not much of a shield guy, idk if the pierce resist from harnesk (btw its nearly a must since hard combat difficulty) gives the shield bigger ability to block. parry is mostly out of option on very hard

[paper marsh]

yes

[paper marsh]

root chest resistance does help shield block. Shield block is based off your armor, resistance, and then the shields block armor

[burnt star]

Wow! GREAT info to know

[burnt star]

If something isn't clarifed to be VERY resistant, is it fair to say it is normally resistant?

[paper marsh]

Very helpful if you don't want to be killed by ||cultists, fire fulings, gjalls, and dvergr mages||

[toxic rose]

Yes

[paper marsh]

hmmm i'd say no

[paper roost]

i finished the game couple of times without shields, so its really not my thing, but yeah, its good to know

[toxic rose]

Hmm, I don't remember any exceptions, but probably it could

[paper marsh]

I think poison resist potion says "resistant" but it gives 75% resist which is VERY RESISTANT. Think ice and fire potion is the same but don't quote me on them giving 75% resist

On all gear the resistance is always 50% I think

[burnt star]

I think Soft snail is right, otherwise the ONLY thing in the game (besides the corpse run effect) that provides VERY resistant resistance is poison potion.

Which seems like it must be inaccurate. There are so many different forms of resist, they can't ALL be the same besides poison resist.

[paper marsh]

tbh resistance %s seem very inconsistent and I hate it. Like why doesn't root helmet and poison resist mead give the same amount of resistance

[burnt star]

I don't mind some resistance sources being better than others if I could just know which is better lol

[paper marsh]

fact

[azure yacht]

Poison mead giving you temporary but VERY resistant to poison makes it still useful.

Root mask is permanent as long as you keep it equipped

[paper marsh]

I do feel like root helmet should be the one with better resistance tho. More effort to hunt down aboms and sacrifice a helmet slot for the root helmet, than to just chug a potion at basically no cost

[azure yacht]

If root mask gave you very resistant then why would you ever use poison mead at all?

[burnt star]

Although, the game itself literally says "Very resistant" for the poison potion and "Resistant" for the root mask.

I'll go take a look on my end game world/character and see if it's all specified and report back

Root mask is normally resistant

[paper marsh]

I prob would bc making helmet is a hassle and doesn't give the same armor as metal. Prob depend on the run which one I go for

I do think the helmet slot is quite valuable because it can give you tons of armor from heavy armor types, without the typical movement slow they also give

[frigid gust]

The root mask is lower poison resistance than the mead, can confirm.

[azure yacht]

It does if you upgrade it, and is fairly cheap to do so. Two extra levels are enough to get the same armor rating as iron helmet

[paper marsh]

If poison mead gives you very resistant, then why make root mask at all?

[burnt star]

Effort/resources

Passive once you get it as opposed to taking constant potion creation

[paper marsh]

I just feel like making meads is so cheap and has no in-combat consequences

I'm considering doing a run of no resistance potions

[frigid gust]

When you make the full set you get the bow bonus for the root armor. It's just a side bonus being resistant to poison, and it's enough for lower level stuff like the leeches and oozers in general.

[odd helm]

Good luck in the mountains~

[toxic rose]

Mountains bonfire pathwalker)

[hollow wing]

How do you mine black metal? I never did understand that from the videos ive watched, most talk about getting barley etc.

[paper marsh]

yea mountains will be the biggest challenge but with some fires shouldn't be too bad. anyways I just need to get to one silver vein and take a couple pieces of silver from it and then I can make a a lox or wolf cape and I'll be safe

[toxic rose]

Just steal some from fulings

[paper marsh]

It drops from the plains enemies (fulings). It's not mined, it's a mob drop

[frigid gust]

I almost never make a wolf cape any more because it takes so much more silver to make and upgrade as compared to the lox cape

[paper roost]

you can also just run to a cave and make a fenris armor

[plush umbra]

Deer cape till lox cape for life

[burnt star]

I wish all metal was secured that way. The devs really made a great choice by making most resources for gear drop from enemies instead of from mining in the 5th and 6th biome.

[paper marsh]

I've always gone for wolf cape bc I love the look but on my hard run I think i'm just gonna go for the cheaper lox

[paper marsh]

mostly from mining in 6th biome still, but not too intensive to mine

[frigid gust]

After I get fenris armor, I keep my lox cape with my padded armor set, and use a black linen cape with the fenris set until I get through the Mistlands 😉

[paper marsh]

Do you need the full set to get frost resist or is it just the chest?

I assume it's the full set and getting that is gonna take ages prob. Need a ton of fur and need to luck out on the elusive cultist trophy

[plush umbra]

The wolf cape makes me sad

[paper roost]

nope, just the chest

[paper marsh]

I am starting to abandon heavy armor for light armor on higher difficulty tho. What's the point in having a lot of armor if you get two-shot anyways 😂 '

[plush umbra]

I didn’t realize black linen cape was a thing

[paper roost]

exactly 😄

[paper marsh]

I'd pretty much be forced to use fenris for yag fight with no resist potions, but tbh I love fenris set for that fight. Outrunning meteors and slams feels good

[plush umbra]

Oh linen cape in general it’s not about color hmm

[frigid gust]

Linen capes come in all kinds of colors, which can be fun

[plush umbra]

It has diminishing returns anyway after a certain point which makes heavy feel even more useless on very hard

[plush umbra]

No frost resist though?

[paper marsh]

I hope ashlands gives us a practically necessary cape for surviving in ashlands and that it doesn't have feather fall, so we can get the feather cape supremacy outta here

[plush umbra]

I guess how often do you go back to the mountains at that point anyway

[bright rock]

Very hard will train you to dodge roll effectively atleast

[plush umbra]

Or to hide very far away lol

[paper marsh]

dodge roll or cheese everything from a distance

[frigid gust]

That's why I use it with the Fenris set. Fenris chest does cold resist. I use the lox cape with padded armor when I need the defense boost, but I use fenris well into the endgame, even after I get the Mistlands done

[paper marsh]

Very hard doesn't seem fun to me tbh. Fights take forever with dodge rolling over parrying or else you're just shooting from a distance which doesn't take much skill. I'm loving hard mode tho

A fenris ||sorcerer || is funny

[plush umbra]

I just find it gets boring being able to tank everything on normal tbh

[paper marsh]

despite ||magic || being a bit cheesy I do genuinely enjoy the tradeoffs of stamina/hp/||eitr || food tho. I feel like there's so many good combos

[plush umbra]

I wish lox had faster turn speeds

[burnt star]

Yagluth's power: Normally Resistant vs Fire/Lightning/Frost (notably no poison resist)

Frost Resist and Fire Resist potions: Normally Resistant

Poison Resist: Very Resistant

Root Mask: Normally Resistant

Fenris Set: Normally Resistant vs Fire/Frost

Feather/Lox/Wool Capes: Normally Resistant vs Frost

Conclusion
It seems that yes, the ONLY way to become "very" resist (.75 vs .5) to an elemental damage type is with poison potion against poison. No other "very resistant" options exist.

[plush umbra]

Give them a fighting chance

[frigid gust]

Eitr weave chest and legs for 80% eitr regen, and then wear the carapace helm for the best armor with the least sacrifice of magic power...

[paper marsh]

I have the curse of being a masochist who is good (but not AMAZING) at the games I play and then I get overconfident and challenge myself to do things that are way out of my league and then I fail 100 times until I eventually succeed. Which is why my permadeath hard mode valheim runs only make it to swamp/mountain 😭

I think I have a good run going now tho

[plush umbra]

Are you saying hard as difficulty or death penalty

[toxic rose]

We need option for hard mode for craft arrows from 20 to 1 per craft

[hollow wing]

do wards protect crops?

[plush umbra]

I guess that’s clarified by permadeath being in there

[plush umbra]

Wards don’t really protect anything

[frigid gust]

Wards don't protect anything. They just alert you to damage. And prevent other players from opening chests and doors, but they can still break them down.

[paper marsh]

I haven't played around with magic extensively but I think I prefer other combos. The eitr weave seems like a meh buff. I mean you're already at 200% regen with rested, 300% with queen.

I feel like going for a stamina food to intertwine arrow shots in between eitr recharge, or going fenris armor so I can easily stay out of enemy range and dodge attacks

Of course the hp/stam/eitr setup of being a melee brawler but supporting yourself with occassional fireballs and shields is very fun too

Eitr recharges while you're using stamina right? Just not the other way around

[frigid gust]

I really need to play more with the magic builds, I haven't gone very deep into it so I don't know all the details. I'm stalling with BG3 until the Ashlands update is released 😛 (speaking of sorcerers...)

[paper marsh]

I'm trying a 2 man honor run in BG3 and I have no clue how I haven't died 100x over. Granted I'm still in act 1

[burnt star]

Root harnesk is irrelevent if you're chaining bonemass's power with friends as the pierce resist is the same and doesn't stack.

Additionally the fire resist from the barley potion, yagluth, and fenris set is the same and doesn't stack. So if you're using one the others are irrelevent.

If you keep fire resist potions on hand the fenris fire resist and yagluth's power are both effectively meaningless (yagluth's as well because yagluth's frost resist is moot if you have a biome 4, 5 or 6 cape and there is no need currently for lightning resistance)

[paper marsh]

The game is trivial if you constantly have bonemass power on, not much else matters at that point imo

you're just going down two difficulty levels with bonemass power on

[burnt star]

Not arguing with that just trying to clarify the current state of resistances and the implications of that on the merits or lack thereof for different potions/powers/armors

[frozen void]

Ive been playing V rising recently. In that game interact is F and special attack is E. The amount of times ive attacked containers in V rising and boss powers activsted when wanting to open chests since i started playing valheim again is too hugh

[plush umbra]

I need to get back into v rising but the people I played with got burnt out on it when lvl 50 was the max boss

So like 2 years ago

[mighty sail]

mmmmm great combat ^

[frozen void]

Played 140 hrs in less than a month and only 2 bosses left

[paper marsh]

Switch the buttons

[frozen void]

I probably will when i go back to v rising, but for now its fine

[plush umbra]

V rising has such a cool sunlight mechanic

I love when you’re fighting a boss during the day and they knock down all of the trees making it impossible to approach it

[frozen void]

I got scared of the sunlight in nightfall and valheim after playing v rising

[plush umbra]

That sunlight smacks

[frozen void]

Nightingale*

[paper marsh]

Gotta get your photosynthesis on

[plush umbra]

You burn to death so fast in v rising

Some of the funniest beginner mistakes are taking on enemy encampments during the day

[gray nexus]

funi since I used to play valorant, first thing I did in valheim was switch interact to F lol

[frozen void]

At least i wont have to worry about silver resistance mead in valheim

[plush umbra]

Omg I forgot about that

And garlic resistance for the farm areas

[frozen void]

Yeah

[plush umbra]

Watching my kid use 23 1s in a game when he has 5s and 10s 😂

[paper roost]

i had 3 goals in the game today, failed 2 of them 😄

[plush umbra]

What were they

[paper roost]

max the abyssal razor, kill serpent and get cultist trophy

[paper marsh]

Did you fail them or did you just procrastinate and extended them to tomorrows duties?

Getting a cultist trophy is quite the daring goal

[paper roost]

yeah, sometimes find a serpent or antient is also goose chase

[paper marsh]

I just found two leviathans last night (and a serpent) so I feel those goals. Felt like I hit the jackpot (granted, the last 6 hours of sailing before that I found no serpents or any leviathans)

[plush umbra]

I wish I could use the abyssal razor more often but it’s very rare I find leviathans

[glass parrot]

I’ve gotten some sap now do I just look for dungeons? I’m in the mistlands

[paper roost]

its my most favorite weapon

[paper marsh]

So strong for going into swamp, especially if you're goated and been rocking flint knife beforehand. Knife skill goes up so fast

[paper marsh]

Yup. You need sap, soft tissue (from dvergr or big skulls), and surtling cores 2.0 from dungeons

[paper roost]

black cores

[glass parrot]

Alright

[paper roost]

it can carry you in the mountains and plains as well, just in mist you better make something else

[paper marsh]

depending on the difficulty yea. On hard/very hard I wouldn't recommend it for plains. In mountains I honestly don't use melee weapons much (although melee killing dragons feels like such a power move)

especially just lunging at a midair dragon with knife secondary attack. Nothing more majestic exists in this world

[paper roost]

on hard i was using the black metal knife, yes. killing dragons with leap is the most fun, yeah 🙂

[paper marsh]

with high knife skill, knife backstabs go cray cray

[paper roost]

nothing better against lox

[paper marsh]

Even with just the abyssal razor early on you can oneshot/close to oneshot trolls

[paper roost]

its basicly silver tier weapon

[fair cairn]

iron tier

[paper marsh]

yea iron

[paper roost]

silver knife is just slightly stronger than razor, if you dont count undead enemies

[paper marsh]

I think upgraded skoll and hati do 1600+ damage with zero knife skill. feels good

[fair cairn]

and a high enough dagger skill will have you oneshot trolls 90% of the time with a jump atack

[near inlet]

big skull

[paper roost]

with skoll and hati you can kill group of lox even on hard difficulty within 1 minute

[paper marsh]

I'm trying to figure out how I wanna approach yag on hardmode without dying. Think I'm gonna go for Fenris armor eikthyr power, but I'm considering if I should visit the mistlands before taking him on. I'd at least go for the food

hell actually should just go to mistlands for food right after beating moder

[paper roost]

haha

the biggest problem for me was the speed of mobs when i increased the difficulty

[paper marsh]

I haven't found it too bad. Only on hardmode tho, haven't gotten very far on very hard

[paper roost]

hard mode is ok-ish, very hard makes the difference. but even on hard, they atack and move faster

btw i wouldnt suggest summon 2x moder at the same time, its insane on hard 😄

[paper marsh]

I know I underestimated Moder bc of how easy she was on normal mode and it ended my last hard run :/

Back to swamp now though, so won't be too long until I get my revenge

[paper roost]

i have respect for moder since the hard mode

[odd marsh]

||fenris set|| how good is it? is it better than silver?

[paper roost]

i love it

[paper marsh]

depends on your playstyle. Most people adore it

I generally recommend mixing and matching armor for the best results though

Fenris makes you very fast so you can outrun and dodge enemies (also makes things like jumping and rolling take less stamina). But you do have kind of low armor so maybe throw a silver tier helmet in there to drag your armor up a bit

[paper roost]

most often combination is fen. leggins, root harnesk and best armor helmet, but its really depending on playstyle

[paper marsh]

If you're still in mountains tho root is kinda useless

[vague halo]

anyone know a server i can join. bored of playing this game on my own its depressing lol

[paper marsh]

prob in #1024264966712340510

[vague halo]

thanks

[vernal rose]

any indian up for co op ??

i rly need a teammaye

[paper marsh]

prob in #1024264966712340510

[stoic oak]

hi everyone

[paper marsh]

Hi Kongking

[rain flare]

Ooooh voice channels 👀

[rare birch]

I just discovered if you change the date on you PC you can build the maypole

[gritty kayak]

ya can do for yule tree too. was a suggestion from devs due to bug from when the tree stopped being avail on 1 jan

[rare birch]

Good to know.

[frozen void]

Its easier to just enable debugmode

[narrow path]

Hi, sorry for disturbing, i just wanted to know - is there any news on ship and the sea update? It was supposed to come out even before the mistlands, what happened, if you know? Will it be released sometime? Thank you for the answer!

[latent wraith]

The ocean isn't finished.

[smoky quarry]

a deep dive suit :p

[latent wraith]

We don't know when the ocean gets fleshed out, but we know it's coming.

[pale gust]

Low-key terrified of what the ocean will be like when it's fleshed out. xD

[plush umbra]

That roadmap was abandoned

[plush umbra]

Do we? I’ve only been able to find things about it being abandoned

[latent wraith]

It's been confirmed many times that the ocean isn't going to stay practically empty forever but will get more stuff.

The specific name of an update that was on the roadmap is of course irrelevant along with the rest of the roadmap, but that the ocean will be worked on at some point is confirmed repeatedly. I'd look for a post to link to but stuff happened...

[smoky quarry]

Aquaman raids sounds fair

must have that protekted harbour

[plush umbra]

Too bad they only talk about Ashlands and deep north now

[light moat]

Not trying to be a contrarian, but doesn’t the FAQ state that the ocean is not getting an update?

[latent wraith]

Where does it state that?

[plush umbra]

Any evidence of them working on ocean is gone that’s for sure

[latent wraith]

Oh they changed the wording.

[plush umbra]

Id say it’s implied since the faq doesn’t mention it but mentions working on other stuff

[regal spoke]

Is. This. Cause. For. Modmail?

[smoky quarry]

they will add cruise ships later full of tourists

[latent wraith]

That's what it says but that goes against everything they've said about it so I'd just put it down to that ocean won't be a progression biome like the others.

[smoky quarry]

nothing you can do about it, just watch out don`t get ran over by massive ship

[latent wraith]

It also notes that ocean isn't part of progression.

[pale gust]

Which would make sense, because sometimes you need to go into ocean really early in game. :)

But it'd still be cool if it was a bit, well, fuller.

[raw escarp]

What triggers fulings spawning in the black forest/meadows? I went back to my starting island and I'm randomly running into them even though their are no plains bioms. It's a vanilla playthrough so not caused by a mod.

[smoky quarry]

been on the ocean for 10 years, tbh, its empty out there

get the rare sight of a tired lost seagul taking refuge on our ship

[regal spoke]

You beat plains boss?

[raw escarp]

Yes

[regal spoke]

That's it

[plush umbra]

Nighttime

[narrow path]

At least ship from Ships and the sea will be good i guess

[plush umbra]

Boss progression unlocks harder mobs at night time

[smoky quarry]

what i saw very often out at sea, was dolphins & submarines..

[raw escarp]

Ah I didn't know that. Also only at night. I like that, makes it more interesting.

[plush umbra]

Eventually you’ll have mistlands mobs in your meadows

[smoky quarry]

random gjal flying over your berries

[plush umbra]

Sometimes on community servers it can make night near impossible for fresh players

Imagine trying to fight seekers with a flint axe and a crude bow

[latent wraith]

It's a co-op game, if people are new you help them. :p

[plush umbra]

Not everyone wants to be given progression on a community server

[regal spoke]

Getting farmed by ticks with a fresh character is an intriguing experience

[raw escarp]

I've only ever played solo but it's a lot of fun. This has replaced Subnautica as my relaxation game.

[plush umbra]

SUBNAUTICA??? Relaxing?!!?!?!?

I wear my brown pants when I play that

[raw escarp]

Yes and I only play hardcore on that game.

[plush umbra]

I would love to play the second one

I got so tired of looking for sub parts though I just used creative to finish the story 😭

I spent like 30-35 hours looking for those parts while using the wiki the entire time

[raw escarp]

The 2nd is a lot of fun. There's some bangers on the jukebox. The subwoofer in my room makes it sound like I'm throwing a party.

[plush umbra]

Idk where they spawned but it certainly wasn’t where I was looking

[plush umbra]

I need to do that

I haven’t had woofers on my computer since I was a teen

Im definitely missing out

[regal spoke]

Tbf headsets have come a long way

[plush umbra]

I also had a hodgepodge collection of speakers that I found on the side of the road or in abandoned houses

I’m not a fan of headsets at all

[regal spoke]

I get that

[raw escarp]

I bought one surround sound system and turned it into two with thrifted finds and a 2nd hand reciever.

[plush umbra]

I only use them when I’m chatting with people I dont want kid or wife hearing

[near inlet]

Subnautica is so divisive in that way haha. I feel the same as you, but my girlfriend is the same as @raw escarp and finds it calming lmaooo

[plush umbra]

Nah those first leviathans were so scary even with that freeze gun thingy

It just buys you a second to wipe before it makes you leak again

[raw escarp]

After so much trauma you get to a place where there's only calm. Kind of like working in a hospital and seeing too many traumas and codes.

[plush umbra]

I don’t want to be traumatized anymore than I already am 😭

[near inlet]

& then this combined with the fact that you can't just skip the night on a server unless you coordinate w everyone

[plush umbra]

The amount of times I’ve accidentally forced people to fight through the night since I was deep in a dungeon is ridiculous

[vocal rivet]

Coordinating 5-6 people shouldn't be hard.

[raw escarp]

There are tricks. Oxygen is the biggest killer of hardcore runs. Carry two tanks and 2 emergency fish 🐟 for oxygen.

[plush umbra]

When they don’t talk to eachother at all it is

Not everyone wants to chat on a community server

[vocal rivet]

Well, what are they doing on the same server? It's a co-op game.

[plush umbra]

Because sometimes community servers have dozens of people who don’t all know eachother?

Not everyone wants to build in the same village with strangers

[vocal rivet]

That's kinda the point of the game.

[plush umbra]

Imagine being forced to talk 20 people when you joined the server for 3

[raw escarp]

Dozens seems like overkill. One or two people would be fun but I'd have to increase the difficulty.

[vocal rivet]

The player cap is 10! And no-one is being forced to do anything. But if you're playing a co-op game you bloody well cooperate!

[plush umbra]

Problem with that is you increase the difficulty and people rage quit so you’ll never have dozens

[raw escarp]

An introvert's nightmare

[plush umbra]

Player cap doesn’t stop dozens of people from using the same server

[raw escarp]

Only because their skill level and expectations are misaligned.

[plush umbra]

Really those large servers are more of a building showcase and roleplay server anyway

I’ve spent hours just roaming a single server finding more and more villages and forts

[latent wraith]

The game specifically is a single player/co-op game, if people want to pretend it's an mmo it's their choice but they can't really complain if it things aren't as enjoyable then. 🤷‍♂️

[paper marsh]

my skill level and expectations are misaligned and yet I am very persistent 😅

[plush umbra]

Well to be fair this server acts like every observation is a whining complaint to change the game

[pale gust]

Finding cool builds from others would be pretty neat, yeah. :)

And if you want to go explore like that, you can always use a character with some higher stats/armor. n_n

[plush umbra]

I spent 2 hours in one guys fortress one time. It was so big I got completely lost

[pale gust]

That sounds like the perfect kind of adventure. xD

[plush umbra]

Just corridor after corridor after corridor

Honestly an adventure mode similar to Minecraft would be cool for some player made maps

I also really like player made dungeons

[vocal rivet]

Can people stop trying to stop making Viking Minecraft?

[pale gust]

That actually sounds like something I still want to try to do for my friends once. I kind of want to build a game area in Valheim, with a maze and an agility course, and have a prize for the winner. :)

[plush umbra]

Adding a can’t destroy buildings mode isn’t making it Minecraft it’s just a reference to a mechanic

[plush umbra]

I’ve done some really cool dungeons where you have to parkour over a pit of ballistas while skeletons shoot at you

[pale gust]

Bwahaha, getting the real good ideas here now! :') Thanks for that inspo, that sounds fantastic!

[raw escarp]

After watching a playthrough with an only mistlands mod everything seems much easier now.

[plush umbra]

lol what I need to watch that

Do you still have the resources from the other biomes or is it literally just mistlands tech off rip

I’d play with the world covered in mist and seekers/gjall

when does ashlands come out?

First half of 2024

[paper marsh]

without resources from other biomes I'd imagine you wouldn't be able to make a single item. You can't even get wood in mistlands with a blackmetal axe can you?

[plush umbra]

k thx

[cyan herald]

no real news on the ocean /ship update.
we removed the old roadmap back in 2021

[raw escarp]

Nope only what he can get in the Mislands. Locks out a lot of crafting

[plush umbra]

Is it confirmed that it’ll be revisited like some people believe?

@ smiffe

[plush umbra]

I’m guessing he had to use soldiers to mine stuff at first or something

[stoic matrix]

Is discord recovery still in progress or has everything that can be gotten back already done by this point and anything else is gone for good now?

[raw escarp]

He defeats a soldier by punching it. Very skilled player

[plush umbra]

Ooo I found the videos

Once I get done with these last 8 kipo episodes I’ll watch that

Perks to being sick af

[light moat]

You too??

[plush umbra]

The latter pretty much but I think they’re still making a couple channels

[raw escarp]

Perks of being medically retired

[plush umbra]

Yeah I finally got meds today

[plush umbra]

That’s scary and tough. Respect to you

[stoic matrix]

Dang, rip build channels I guess. I loved all the ideas and suggestions in there. Oh well

[raw escarp]

I really enjoy sailing in this game. It does seem like there's a lot of opportunity for the ocean to be more interesting, especially as you push out further.

[boreal meadow]

First time setting off in a boat on this play through, and my friend who is very new to the game just says “I sure do love being a Viking on the ocean, where nothing bad will happen!” Only for a sea serpent to immediately come out RIGHT as he said that

[paper marsh]

lmaooooooo

[boreal meadow]

Some cartoon type of stuff 🥲

[paper marsh]

Better kill it and eat its meat 😈

[raw escarp]

They can be terrifying until you get a harpoon.

[boreal meadow]

Yup we scuttled over to land and poked him in the face

[paper marsh]

I'd say once you get a Karve and a levelled finewood bow serpents aren't too bad

Except on Very Hard they tend to destroy a ship fast

[raw escarp]

For shields do you like tower or bucklers? I parry everything and even though the serpent shield is powerful and easy to get early I never use it. Feels slow and clunky

[plush umbra]

I think that’s what they’re still working on it’s just not top priority for the dev team

[boreal meadow]

If you can block with a tower shield you’re better off dodging in my opinion

So either parry when possible or just dodge, no need to soak on purpose

[plush umbra]

Tower shields reduce mobility way too much for me

[paper marsh]

Absolutely hate tower shields. Never ever use them

They make you so slow, and can't parry. it's just awful

Parry all da way

[raw escarp]

That's how I fight Bonemass. Just roll into him. He's an easy boss fight. So slow 🐌

[plush umbra]

The only time I like tower shields is when doing a dungeon as a team and I’m the archer behind the guy with the tower shield

[boreal meadow]

oh yeah. poison resist, roll every couple of minutes, smack him with a club

easier than elder imo

[raw escarp]

I do struggle early in Mislands dungeons. Maybe a good tower shield is better there?

[paper marsh]

I'd rather have the guy in front parrying the enemies so I can do triple damage with my bow

[plush umbra]

I’m considering making a base on top of bonemass altar since I did that for elder and it was impossible for him to hit me

I know the skull is a thing but eh

[plush umbra]

True but sometimes that can be overwhelming with 5-6 mobs

[paper marsh]

eh I still find Elder easier. Elder won't two shot me and it's even easier to stay in cover behind pillars than it is to dodge roll a bonemass

[plush umbra]

Depends on the player tbh I’ve played with some people who can’t parry practically at all

[paper marsh]

Plus sometimes the mobs in bonemass fights are so annoying pushing me around

[plush umbra]

I played awhile with a guy who has nerve damage in his hand so heavy armor and tower shields were his only real option

[raw escarp]

Speed runners will build on top of the skull and respawn with a bed and roof so no wet debuff.

[boreal meadow]

my island for bonemass is so small i could honestly flatten the whole thing

[raw escarp]

Oh I do that, flatten the area immediately around the skull. Anything else is overkill because the fight is easy.

[paper marsh]

I'm gonna have to start doing that stuff

I never really prepared the area for boss fights but playing on Hard mode and challenging myself not to die on the entire run I think I need to start preparing the area making sure there's no enemies, no weird mountain tips or pools of water, maybe even setting up a little area to fall back to for resting buff (and rested buff if battle takes long), or for bonemass a roof to take away wetness

[smoky quarry]

i build a small mini base near spawn so he gets to destroy it in spectacular fashion and increase immersion

[paper marsh]

I prob won't build much but preparing the environemtn is nice

[boreal meadow]

how do you disable the hud for screenshots if its possible?

[raw escarp]

A hard playthrough is next for me. Any tips? Does armor still help?

[paper marsh]

definitely possible but I've never done it. Prob in settings but could be a dev commands thing

[boreal meadow]

troll armor solos

[azure yacht]

Ctrl + f3

[boreal meadow]

max troll armor is only 6 defense worse than max bronze armor, you can honestly use it up til silver era

[paper marsh]

tbh light armor is so much better. You're usually gonna get 1-2 shot by the enemies who are an actual danger regardless of if you have high armor or not, so i often opt for speed and such instead. Root chest absolutely necessary for swamp, plains, and mistlands on very hard tho

I'd still go for heavy armor helmets so you're not defenseless, but pants and chest I'd lean towards light armors most the time

[raw escarp]

I always use root chest as soon as I can and never take it off. Fenriss pants and heaviest armor helmets.

[paper marsh]

And never underestimate a fight. Enemies and bosses that seemed like cakewalks before can eb quite the challenge. A lot of bosses can oneshot you on very hard, I was surprised at being brought to like 15 hp from one Moder ice barrage hit

[paper marsh]

I'd recommend taking it off for mountain and going for fenris if possible. Bit more armor and 5% more movement speed is great

[smoky quarry]

i wear the heaviest things available

[raw escarp]

Can you parry the wolves or are you either sniping, kiting into golems or running away?

[rapid bison]

Dig a pit

[paper marsh]

not sure. I haven't played much Very Hard mostly just Hard. Parrying is gonna be real rough throughout the playthrough tho. I think if you want parrying to be viable and not get staggered or cancelled every time, you'd need to up your block skill and use max level shield for your biome whenever you can

[raw escarp]

Ah okay maybe building a Skeleton block trainer would be good then

[obtuse cloud]

I'm back, good afternoon :3

[rapid bison]

There's no shame using God mode in separate save to learn the attack habits of each enemy you want to parry.

Although I just use arrows.

[paper marsh]

Basically NEVER try to parry the brutes of a biome. Trolls, aboms, soldier seekers, etc. are just gonna eat through your parry

[raw escarp]

That's fair

[paper marsh]

well soldiers might be alright once you get upgraded carapace and high block skill

[rapid bison]

What is the minimum shield needed to even parry a troll?

[obtuse cloud]

Unless you are prepared :3

[paper marsh]

Ok normal I think a bronze shield could do it. May have to be upgraded or you need to have some good food in your belly

[obtuse cloud]

Bronze buckler, I have it on lvl 3 and it parry trolls without problem

[raw escarp]

Even on hard/hardcore?

[tardy coral]

What is the cartography table for?

[paper marsh]

Block is based on your armor, shield block armor, and max hp

[obtuse cloud]

I'm playing normal

[raw escarp]

Sharing map data with others

[paper marsh]

Nope don’t even try

[obtuse cloud]

Don't know about hard and hardcore

[paper marsh]

Pretty sure you’d have to at least have iron and that’s still iffy

[rapid bison]

Isn't Hardcore roughly a two star stat increase to all enemies?

[obtuse cloud]

And I prolly will never play it cuz next week I will start my new job and want to focus on that

[paper marsh]

Yup. 2 star mobs or Very Hard mobs have twice the damage of normal mode 0 star mobs

[paper roost]

it is and extra 20% speed

[raw escarp]

Can you sneak up on trolls with Abysal razors in hard/hardcore? Or is that suicide 🤔

[paper marsh]

Eh prob

Just still be really careful about getting hit by those strong mobs. A lot more stuff instakills than you’d expect

[paper roost]

the sneak atacks works the same, you just need bigger damage to kill the mobs

[raw escarp]

Ah got it so a lot more kiting. Stamina>health on harder modes then?

[unborn elm]

Hey guys, there was a "building" channel, can't find it 😕

[paper marsh]

Swamp is where hardcore becomes real rough. Especially those darn draugr archers but root chest makes it manageable. Just god help you if you meet a 2 star archer

[paper marsh]

I’d say best Strat if you’re good at the game (which you have to be for that mode) is stamina and movement speed yea. Basically don’t get hit and you win, get hit and you lose.

On hard mode I’m still going fairly hard on health doing two hp foods a lot of the time bc on hard I’m able to tank 1 high damage hit without dying with some good food. I know I should be focusing stamina tho

[vocal rivet]

Coming back soon.

[paper marsh]

One hit potential just scares me. I don’t wanna have to delete my world bc a powerful enemy took 1 stray shot at me

[raw escarp]

Sounds very intense

[heady parcel]

How annoying, cleared a major fuling village, with no cheeze-friendly terrain anywhere near so had to come at them on the ground, in the open. A bunch of berzerkers, one of them starred, quite a few of the little ones were too. Once I had it cleared they had NO crops. A little barley in a chest, that's all. Will need to find another village for flax. Gaaah!

[plush umbra]

Yall are killing me using hardcore interchangeably with very hard 😭

[paper marsh]

Oh I read this as hardcore at first which is what most my advice was for. On hard most the same advice applies but blocking isn’t too bad except against brutes, and you can usually survive 1 high damage hit even if you’re not super armor/hp specced

Let me know how it goes tho

[paper marsh]

Sorry I never played hardcore 😭

What’s the difficulty on hardcore?

[plush umbra]

Hardcore is a death penalty

[paper marsh]

It’s a preset right?

Oh I thought there was a preset for it too

Yea I’ve been using hardcore as synonymous for very hard with intense death penalty

[plush umbra]

It’s the final slider option on death penalties

[plush umbra]

This makes a lot of things make more sense now 😂

I’ve been wondering why you mention hardcore and deathless together

[paper roost]

well, very hard difficulty is hardcore 😄

[raw escarp]

Subnautica just deletes the save file.

[plush umbra]

Good description for it but that’s not the game setting

[paper roost]

true

[paper marsh]

I should probably be more careful muddying the waters. Especially bc hardcore not being world wipe is already confusing

[plush umbra]

Valheim doesn’t have that option so you have to manually delete your world after respawning for a permadeath run

[paper marsh]

Yea that’s what I’ve been doing

[plush umbra]

I had no idea till a few days ago as well

I was calling my hardcore run a permadeath run but I’m keeping my world and base so I was wrong 🤷‍♀️

I’ve just started calling it a max slider/max difficulty slider run at this point

[paper marsh]

Yea permadeath us a lot more punishing

[plush umbra]

I’m not good enough to attempt that but I can get through very hard with hardcore with enough deaths

[paper marsh]

I gotta say tho I wasn’t enjoying very hard. I like difficulty but it just didn’t feel balanced in a good way to me

[paper marsh]

Immensely impressive still

[paper roost]

i m not a big fan of permadeath, sorta pushing you play covard-ish style, i prefer more "free" hands with doing stupid stuff 🙂

[paper marsh]

I’d say permadeath hardmode and hardcore very hard are pretty close in difficulty but hardcore gives a bit more room for mistakes in tradeoff for time to recover

[plush umbra]

I don’t have the time nor patience nor desire to cheese for permadeath

[plush umbra]

My last stream on that run I ended the stream with less stuff than I started it with 😭

[boreal meadow]

just crafted my first full set of iron armor and weapons 🥲 now i can kill bonemass again even easier

that bronze mace put in work well past its intended lifespan

[paper marsh]

I feel that 100%. That’s why I’ve actively banned certain things from my run. Like breaking enemy AI and just shooting them with a bow from distance, atgeir middle mouse attack, earth walls around base, etc.

[plush umbra]

Earth walls are so ugly

Max raids is really fun though

[boreal meadow]

cover em up and make them look like castle walls

aesthetically pleasing impenitrible wall

[plush umbra]

You honestly don’t even need real walls if you just leave logs laying around your base or if you build a bunch of half walls in the ground to interrupt pathing but that goes against your pathing cheese rule

[boreal meadow]

reversed stairs confuses mobs pretty good too

[paper marsh]

But what’s the point of having raids on if you’re just gonna prevent the AI from ever pathdinding to or attacking your base?