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Why? Valheim spawned a new genre. Why would people be upset that valheim like games are popping out?
it's a reference to a person saying Windrose is a 1:1 copy to valheim in UE5
just fans being fans
It's not a copy, lol. But it is Valheim like, just like all the soullike games out there
what about windrose seems specifically inspired by valheim instead of being generic survival features? I haven't played it.
I know what you're trying to say, but I have no idea if it's true
it's like Vampire Survivor games, bulletheavens/survivors
- The resource gathering system( Even chooping trees will yield a trunk that you chop further), also smelting ores (kiln + furnace)
- The food system. Cooking + Multiple foods eaten increase Max HP
- The build system. It uses a green->red system for stability too
- Biome progression based on defeating biome boses
- Boats and Sailing (Guess that would a point of similarity as well)
etc
Good morning
Those sound pretty basic
by now there are basic, but they were popularized by Valheim first
Sounds like pretty standard survival craft features ๐ค
Some similar games might have hunger/thirst system instead of how Valheim implements foods in game.
The only thing that reminds me of Valheim is the fact you need upgrades for stations.
But even Nightingale had that feature.
You mean like The Forest definetly not having chopping down trees mechanic? ๐
also stations requiring a roof
Only some specific ones and the bed lol
I dont play enough different games to point out exampled but theres no way valheim came up with most of those
Nah, Nightingale had a lot of these features too
Nightingale is newer tho
I guess Nightingale is another Valheim copy 

they are not copies. but they are valheim like
I thought so too at first, but i tried the test build and it didnt feel nearly as good to play
Thats what valheim has going for it
"Valheim like"? Valheim was not even the first game to have a structural integrity system etc?
No, but it poopularized those systems to the point they are easily recognized in a game
Ideas dont make a good game, executing them well does
I guess it really doesn't matter if its a copy, inspired etc... If the game is good then its good and Windrose is friggin GOOD
You can have a pet boar
I'll play a copy of a copy of a copy if it's good 
boohoo original game? screw that, I just wanna play
yeah the game is good. EA still ...
I wanna play a game entirely made by AI
100% me too, if it's good, idc if an alien made it
(For legal reasons this is a joke)
But no you see, if humans didn't touch it, it's an abomination.
I don't care, AI is amazing and it's our future, I'm just adapting early 
Human made slop = AI SLOP
AI made greatness = You this is fire
hating on it is too much energy anyway
Well, first it's already too integrated into everything and there's no way it will go anywhere.
It will become as common as google and later we can't probably even tell the difference.
I will eat food made by AI too 
People think that AI will make great games in a year or two by itself ... It will absolutely not. Before it can take on the massive amount of work to create a game, data center deployments must increase hundred of thousand fold. Then and only then, there will be enough compute at affordable costs that can be employed to create games ... and this might take a decade or so at least
Maybe AI is already making games and posing to be humans 
I saw a story the other day that AI took revenge and deleted an entire company database or something
I hink AI is creating SciFi scenarios about AI creating stuff, and posting it online
I'm in no rush, we've got a 40-50 year old game library
So in Windrose, you can BOARD ships early and just kill all the crew and it sail around on its own 
BRUH, there's FRIENDLY fire between enemy ships
Yes, and friendly fire between friendly ships
It would be cool if the ship SANK if you killed all the crew on it
ehm ... that's what happens (after boarding)
What I mean is, you can use the tiny boat that cannot be hit to simply board ships without engagning in combat haha
Also not getting XP for anything other than mission, exploration is a big L
I want to get XP from killing enemies, animals, looting, gathering
Like the other 99,999999999% of sandbox survival games?
yeah, expecially from destroying enemy ships, that would be nice
I also think Windrose got a lot of inspiration of this game: https://store.steampowered.com/app/1967630/Survival_Fountain_of_Youth/
How has everyone's week been?
Too long.
That's same for me tbf
Ah, you've been doing nightshifts with half an hour unpaid overtime as well? Then heading home for a 45 minute journey, just to notice some jack-donkey is using a jackhammer to remove old tiles from a neighbouring house, so you can't sleep much?
That kinda "long"?
And I didn't even mention my age. ๐คฃ
Not for a week. But I'm in the unfortunate position that I'm one of the few who can do that job independently at night shifts.
So I'm kinda bound to do night shifts one week after the other.
I had a rough week at work then i already had yesterday off when everything was closed. At least there was valheim
How come you got those bad results?
Cos school don't exactly come easy to me
I have many more learning difficulties then the teachers realise
I doubt it did for anyone here.
In which way?
Memorizing things?
Just processing time and work speed mainly
I also struggle to pick out the point of a question
That may be the reason for the slow work speed.
You do know there's a trick to deal with that?
Highlighting the question and stuff
Breaking things up.
That's the same concept
Highlighting the key points then going through them one at a time
Yes and no.
When you break things up, you can highlight the important things later.
Breaking things up will make it easier to spot the important parts.
What also helps is writing the things you consider as important down in your own wording.
That way you will memorize them a lot easier, as they are yours. Not from someone who wrote that book.
I also tend to run out of time/have very little time left to check my work
And use glue to "marry them" back together
I tend to do that for revision
Summarise things in my own way
In a way, checking your work is actually bad.
Because it makes you doubt the first answer, then revise it, perhaps pick another answer, start doubting about that and panic strikes.
Better ignore what you wrote down the first time and only concentrate on the questions you haven't answered yet.
I make sure I haven't made any general mistakes like forgetting a pair of brackets somewhere and stuff and I mark the questions to come back to at the end
Here's a "funny" story.
When I was young (like ages ago ๐คฃ ) I had lost some of my notes of Dutch Language class.
So I asked a friend if I could borrow his, spend hours studying them because I feared lots of questions would be about that first part. Not about the part I had myself.
When the pre-exams happened, panic struck, as most questions were about the part I barely studied. That part I did have the notes from.
So, when we got the end results, I ended up with a "1" (Dutch rate on a 1-10 rating, so imagine.)
By the time I had to do the final exams, I had worked that one up to an average of "4"; which was too low to even pass.
Some of the other things were having a too low average as well and it was actually advised that I would simply not do the exams all together, as I most likely won't pass them anyway.
I refused, did half of them at the required level and half of them at a lower level.
When the results came in, it turned out that I not only had passed, but that when the adjustment-factor was applied, I would've been able to pass everything at the highest level.
Except for the Dutch language.
So I did another exam for that, to make sure it would end up with a higher number. Basically meaning I had to pass with a grade of 8-9 to pull that off.
I passed it with an 8.9.
Doesn't mean I'm good, because I never liked studying.
But it does mean that if you really want something, you can pull it off. Even as a slow learner.
I have started to do some passive study now after the exams now lol
Just a bit here and there
Like I would pick up my phone and do 5 mins before I gotta go somewhere
Unsupported is not the same as things that are logically in a real world situation supported but the game says it's not because it's using some weird parameter. Ark also had this and it was abso hell getting anything to stay that should.
I don't know why you're attacking my character, calling my feedback "dramatic" insults just make you lose the debate.
I'm a builder. That's what I do in these games. The sway they have set this system up is not "revered" by anyone I've seen. Everyone I play the game with says "yea the building system sucks"
I have many other conpl about how the game works I haven't mentioned like the fact that you have to be in a specific biome to farm anything.
I gave constructive critique on how I think the game could be improved and said I would be happy to see these changes and would be cross enough to consider not recommending the game to others. I don't really see how I'm being dramatic suggesting they refined something people have complained about for years. ๐คท๐ปโโ๏ธ
I think the thing you gotta remember is these games are not real life
They are not gonna match real life 1:1
I'm certain it will help.
And - sounds odd, but - I'm glad you do this.
Shows that you want to move forward, even despite set-backs.
I have never not wanted to move forward
I study for my exams and still do badly
I guess I just gotta find something that works
Oh you will.
Just odd question, but how are you in technical stuff?
I never said that it should. But the gravity system is way too unforgiving and really doesn't make much sense at all. And arbitrary things like "too high" and "unsupported" aren't really that specific in detailing how the system works
Anyways
I have never had any issue with the building system
I just work around my problems and find what works
But it shows you exactly where the problem lies?
Too high means it's too high.
Unsupported means the thing it sits on cannot support it.
I think it does
Like if a piece is unsupported or not supported properly I just add some support
Sure it's harder to add in some places compared to others but I make it work
They're not arbitrary at all
I've been up all night trying to figure out how to build this Viking hall that was way too difficult to manage. I'm going to sleep I don't have time to debate people that are going to talk down to me like this
Among other things, yes.
I'm asking because often when people "fail" (in the eyes of others) in one thing, they may be very good in something else.
And since you do computing and stuff, I take it you do programming / modding too?
No one is talking down to you because we disagree with you lol
A bit of programming
Never really dabbled in modding stuff
I also really enjoy playing guitar but I wouldnt class that as technical
Talking down?
I don't remember attempting to do that
I don't think disagreeing is the same as "talking down"
Seems to me like you're both talking to me like I'm stupid for not liking the build system. Like I just don't understand it.
I understand well enough that it is objectively bad if i can't build a simple gazebo without the roof caving in because there's not a pillar every two steps.
I'm not calling you stupid or anything
I'm just saying that every time I have had these problems I have figured out a way around them
There's no way around needing a pillar every two blocks what are you talking about
Well I mean, the way you came in here, do you expect people to be pleasant back or?
You can dislike it but you're still wrong that the systems are completely arbitrary
They explain exactly how they work
Cant you just build a grid like system inside of the roof
Idrk how to explain it properly but I could find a pic of one
#building-screenshots message you can see in one of the pictures here what I'm trying to describe
Oh, but you don't have to.
The moment you get access to iron you can use a wood-iron pole to build to a certain height and width.
If you want to build in stone, put a stone pilar over it, so the wood iron pole won't be visible.
After that, use the iron grate to create a floor, make sure it hits the walls at all sides and the wood iron poles and cover it with the stone floor pieces.
That entire structure is strong enough to cover a 12 - 18 tile area with only pillars being build every 3-4 tiles.
I guess if you are still stumped tho you can watch some YouTube tutorials
There are so many out there that I have watched myself
Then when you get to the ceiling if you're not doing a basic boring triangle it starts collapsing in because you need enough support for every single piece.
Just as an example: this is done how I described it above: #building-screenshots message
I dont think you can call the systems "arbitrary" just because you are unable to figure out how to support one structure
That's like me calling the whole of school stupid because I did bad on exams
Actually, not entirely.
You can build an angled support using the wood iron poles or pinewood logs.
Connect those at the top and perhaps halfway and you can support your entire roof.
I'm trying to do a Viking long house. Which has a big open area with a small roof above it that lets the smoke out.
I have kinda barely done it but the pillars everywhere is ugly
I'm basically building my houses in Valheim the same way the constructors used to build houses before the invention of concrete.
And just like in RL, it works.
Then use ironwood instead of core/regular wood
I like the look of the darkwood..
Ik iron can be a pain to get but I think it would be the best solution
I want to be creative
Can't you build darkwood over ironwood to hide it
This game doesn't want me to play it it feels like most of the time.
Then turn on no structural integrity??
You have all the options to customize your gameplay
Where is that???
Modifiers
I see like 5 settings I can change
Darkwood may be too small. I think it's the same size as the wood-iron poles.
Core wood on the other hand is slightly larger.
Mods?
No I mean world modifiers
I'm not entirely sure I just know it works with some other wood types
Love your name
There's very.little options there. There's no build costs. But I saw no turn off gravity limits option. Is it behind something else?
It could be in devcommands
I have personally never messed around with those settings but I'm sure I have seen something like it before
Guess there's none, I guess you have to either use mods or learn how to build with the system ๐
Well I wouldn't think using mods would be the worst thing
If the issue seems that bad
I try to avoid it with games I play with people
Maybe console commands
But yea if it's this bad
I use more mods then I would like to admit for minecraft
Well Minecraft is a perfect example of how Valheim shouldnt be imo.
True
Good grief. It doesn't make it bad because you don't like it.
I'm just saying there isn't necessarily a problem with using mods
Play your own way is the motto of, gaming?
I'm not sure how it works with other games but client side mods work online without issue no?
Not structural integrity mod, cannot be used yourself only
Doesn't make it good if you do
Oof that's unfortunate
The point he is making is that you are the only one that thinks it is bad
That's implicit too.
The rest of us have little to no issue with it
No I'm not
That's blatantly lying
I personally don't see anyone with the same issues as you
I mean obviously there's other people who hate the integrity system and want a free for all like Minecraft
That's what got me upset y'all act like y'all never hear people complain about the building system before I find that hard to believe when the person who bought the game for me and many friends I've played with it have said they think it sucks. Also I can show many a post on the internet of people complaining about the building system so no.
I'm not the only one who doesn't like it
I guess having no physics like that is just Minecraft's USP tho
Who cares if others dislike it though?
You have to accept it or find another game
I mean, to my mind you've been offered solutions. But you're unwilling to be flexible and creative with your build and the materials you use.
But I never do hear people complain
This IS the game
you're complaining about something fundamental as I see it
And it will never change
why does Pitfall on Atari have pitfalls, I don't like them
remove pitfalls
Or you are within a minority of people that doesn't like it
I think it's inherently designed as restrictive to prompt creativity. Which I personally enjoy.
rain damage, however, limits creativity ๐ but that's another story
is my acc

colossal meow
nah
oh right my 5 meows limit
Is that the daily meows up?
give it the acc stop making things complicated
i already used 5 meows man I'm limited now
you'd flashbang others with another white profile page like yours
no is fiveee
Why don't you say "bean" instead
Or I can make a suggestion that I think might improve the game and the devs can decide if they like the idea, or if it's worth whatever they might make to do it despite not wanting to.
And getting at me like I'm in the wrong for suggesting changes that I think would make the game more enjoyable is not really positive for the community.
But that's just my perspective
Last time I checked it wasn't limited
immersion or something
the m word has a sweet tone
I can say bean softly and harshly
Well, you are wrong 
it's like telling a viking to use a sword than an axe
Just like "meow"
No u
Seriously this is like talking to kids
I think this is just getting childish at this point
I'm out I said I need sleep
Coming from a literal child btw
That was my point
It all depends how you initiate come across, you came across as hostile, no one will be nice to you after that.
No as in the only thing you could say is "no u"
I'm saying you are acting as the child
I could counter this with multiple posts in the internet instead of your echo chamber for your game
that's alright, anyway the account is mine
building stability is as fundamental to the game as trees
i could counter with that the devs have said that it's staying
it's one of the biggest things that makes Valheim "Valheim"
All they said was "you are wrong" that was childish y'all are a toxic af community I'm gone bye
Bye felicia ๐
@supple yew I think all you're going to do from this point onward is upset and fatigue yourself with this circular conversation. Might be time for bed.
Write it in #suggestions I'll upvote it
i dont think "toxic" is the right word to use here
They're gone
just because we dissagree does not mean we are toxic
I can be toxic, I hope your roof collapses
did we get blocked or did they leave the server?
aw sad, I wanted it to be written in suggestions so I could downvote it ๐คนโโ๏ธ ๐ช
That was unacceptable of me ๐
i would downvote it
go find the one i did and do it
xD
why be mean when you can be kind
Tocix was better
Just a little bit of fun
I might want to order pizza, hmmm
i dont see it to be that serious
dominos meat feast pizza with the bbq sauce base
problem is genuinely that they never considered anything
they didn't think about the implications and what they wanted
JESUS CHRIST ITS 22c, no wonder why it feels like I'm being cooked alive
you can be extra and add some chicken tikka pieces to it
true
I'm against rain damage to structures
I could talk about it myself
that could be passed off as an inconvenience more then an issue tho
Get an umbrella
but I could argue it if I wanted
you very much could
and not fight everyone in the server saying they're toxic 
i have found it annoying but at the same time i just work around it
Wait, are the tarred buildings waterproof or nah?
not sure
lets go be toxic or something idk
Just a reminder it it against Discords Offical Terms of Service to give or trade dicord accounts and as such is also against the rules of the Valheim Discord. Make sure to re-read the rules before posting further.
there is a slight discrepancy to irl
ngl i dont rlly get acount trading
you can use discord the same with a new or special acount
They are not magenta-pink users tho. ๐
been playing on a fun server for awhile now but never do swamp for reason. Am I the only one who likes to chill by black forest?
woah magenta pink
thats the crazyest thing ever
Before you do that, make sure you either wear the root helmet or have gulped a poison resist potion. ๐
But you can buy boost to change your name ๐ฎ
i also enjoy black forrest
We came to that conclusion day or two ago.
I mean, you can buy boost that gives you fancy username with colors, no?
lets become a mass of bones
I should buy it but its pointless for me that uses a bunch of emotes
Mod role colors = e91e63
colours are subjecthive ๐
But only when the bees are happy.
i dont think there are any actions to be judged
im kinda just sat around looking at my desktop for some reason
im also listening to music
That's the best. 
went afk on a small black forest island I'm clearing to respond to messenger. Bear lunges and swipes my behind
Happened to my friend too.
#memes-and-clips message
Ok, ordered a massive family pizza with kebab, sauce, fries on it and then a box of kebab and fries.
shut up and take my money!
She can be very oblivious and unaware sometimes in games. 
"ooh a thistle!"
And bad sense of direction.
Although those traits bring the funniness on our group. 
This small Bf island could be a good bear farming location
Especially once I flatten it
That seems like a very nice meal
I always cut the family pizza up into 6 rectangles and then I can eat those 6 times ๐
Anything more then two pizza slices makes me sick >:( I mean not that I'm a huge pizza fan anyway
Also morgen y'all ๐ซถ
Nope
Are you spawnproofing something? ๐
opposite - spawn welcoming the small black forest island for bears
Have had 2 since I've been clearing it
Small being:
Ooooh, ok then ๐ looking for the trophy i assume? xD
I thought that meant food farming
3rd bear down (on this island) got the trophy kek
Lucky duck bee xD
i just killed my first bear outside testing
while hunting for rabbits in mistlands
I would bet the second option is correct ๐
asking cos I'd be surprised if I overlooked that detail
nah it was on the border with black forest
just what i wanna see while eating 3 stamina foods and wearing light armor lol
-# You've got this babe โจ
At least you can run away ๐
Pre Ashlands Ashlands but in Mistlands

Survival rate:
3%
lowkey jedi master build
And with ashlands weapons you can even join the dark side xD
"There is light at the end of the tunnel!"
The light:
wait, we get red, green and blue weapons, star wars reference confirmed?
Not as long as we don't have a purple weapon......
look it my screenshot above
isn't that just Smiffe?
I dunno. Sometimes I think he's actually S(m)i(th)ffe......
But the one wielding a purple light sabre was a M.....F..... Jedi......
I used to think smiffe was "smiffle"
smiffLe or smiffie?
Le
ew gross
Ikr
Do we know the math on bear respawns?
From top of my head i can say only that they dont have a fixed spawnpoints, just random BF spawns. Will try to look for some % on wiki tho ๐ค
Had a look at the wiki but it didn't mention it
just random
Good morning Valheim 
not even needing to be in the center
https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Spawn_zones
Every 11m 40s there is 30% chance (in daytime) and 40% chance (in nighttime)
Bless, thanking thee
Btw at day max 1 stars will spawn, 2 stars can spawn only at night ๐
lol
I'm not sure why they allow us to track deliveries in real time like this but I like ti
I'm watching their every move
had? what was nightingale?
oh gross
I tested nightingale. was incredibly painful figuring out their system for a bed. Never went back to it
Haven't played in years but when it originally released the system was BAD
You had to have multiple stations per stations and it overlapped
I think its ok atm though but will never return to it.
Not after they did a force wipe
yeah i did not enjoy my test of nightingale
Yeah like let's say one station needed 5 upgrades.
Another station might have needed 5 upgrades too of the SAME UPGRADE.
Really weird.
@arctic torrent did you enjoy your test of The Forest?
no
I look forward to The Forest 3 and then that other The Forest game ๐
||never tested it||
Nice, Pizza + box arrived.
Now to cut the pizza up in 6 parts, put in container, bring the other box to bed.
i play very few different games, instead i play them more, like valheim
I have twice in my playthroughs.
i only tried nightingale because it was announced around the time i was really into valheim and it seemed sorta similar
have not found rocky or early axes yet xD
but i havent done a fresh game since those came out
They should generate in old worlds in unexplored areas.
Same, i am thinking about starting new game tho
wanna start Sons of The Forest with me?
(no we should play subnautica)
I meant new Valheim game/playthrough ๐
I understood new Valheim playthrough too. 
my head's in the steam store
my own fault i am auto-involved
context is important xD
Is that common sense's sibling?
I rarely see that guy these days... ๐ฅฒ
No need to bring it up, especially by name again
dam sorry everyone ๐
-# FYI publicly posting someone's name in that manner is considered dog-piling/witch-hunting and is against Discord's official terms of service
I'm crying as we speak.
holy moly am i in trouble
nah, just no need to dredge things up, and the TOS thing is true
sorry i wasn't finished backreading i wasn't aware of how much drama there was about the drama
i'll shut up now
Does this mean we now got drama about the drama about the drama?
That would make things very dramatic, I assume.
let's try to keep meta drama to a minimum ๐ ๐ซ
๐ Lucky
indeed. Also going to be a troll hide farm + money
Then it's becoming Mini(dra)ma. ๐
Trolls have way longer timer and lower chance for spawns unfortunately
We have a Voldemort???
Consider chucking some love potions.
why not just wait for troll raids to start and make a troll grinder entrance to your base
(this is my own plan)
inconsistent and boring
I mean, random spawns are not much more consistent ๐
i don't actually like fighting trolls this troll grinder will be satisfying and pleasant
If one wants to make money out of trolls, one can use love potions and run around black forests found over 2000m away from center.
#memes-and-clips message if i'm building this out of stone instead of raised earth, it would be fine to make two layers of spikes directly vertically parrallel, right?
Haven't found bog witch yet
still early on in this playthrough
Right. Consider later then. 
5 trolls spawn. Rip
you have to wait like 45 minutes for the chance for a raid, then you have to "win" and get troll raid
good and prepped
Yeah, but random spawns are once every 66m 40s and have 5% chance to actually spawn 1 troll ๐ quite a bit worse odds i would say
if you only just killed the elder it's a 50 50 chance whether it's a troll raid or swamp stench
just run through black forests and you should find one, plus i also said boring cause you cant leave your base if you want the raid
i don't want to spam but should i post this question in #valheim-help
True true, i was still at Subjects cleared forest island in my mind ๐
-# I've only said Island like 4 times
ah fair, i was talking in general
๐
yeah actually planning for a troll raid on an island like that might be a rather solid plan
reveal spoiler to spook a subject
sighs in Australian
world's biggest island
With stone there's a chance trolls may destroy it. While you don't have that with raised earth.
Disadvantage of both "resources" is that Log trolls can hit through the raised dirt. And thus destroy things build behind it.
but either way the second layer of spikes should be vertically aligned with the first layer, right?
Imho spikes are not worth the placement
I have no idea.
I've never build a trap like that.
I just pick an island far away from the coast to make it hard for anything to reach me, then spawn proof the entire area to make certain things won't even get there. After that I raise the land by 4-8 meters so I can build a cellar under my main building and put walls at the outer edges to prevent anything wandering in.
So far it works and the only things that actually make it inside are bats, wraiths and drakes.
Sounds like my bog-standard Meadows base. ๐
also when spikes break(which they will) you get no mats back
My last base like that is set up in the Plains.
Was a bit harder to get it working, but at least I'm able to grow all crops in one location.
I try to build my main base in Meadows with other biomes semi-close by.
It kills me that it's not enough Eitr for like anything but frost staff ๐ญ I'm not giving up a health food for eitr. I would use my magic weapons if the mistland feast gave 50 eitr lol
Yup, that's exactly my problem with being a mage.
It's just too easy to get killed if your shield breaks down.
Which it WILL do the exact moment you need it NOT to.
Tank all the way.
Heavy armor, shield, sword.
HHS or HHF or HFF.
Even HHH works with the amount of stamina later health foods give
Tru, but I find the best compromise HHF or HFF.
if i go mage i go 3 eitr food and run max skellies with shields
I prefer wearing fenris legs with my heavy armor and HHS. But when I got to the Ashlands it was heavy armor only and HHH.
But heavy armor drives me crazy half the time. Usually I can ignore it but it is very annoying lol
Mage is only good if you have maximum situational awareness and don't let things get close to you. That includes projectiles.
I'm too old for that. Tank it is.
I cannot for the life of me figure out what F stands for lol ๐ญ
Feast.
Ohhhhhh
I use feasts as soon as I can find the Bogwitch.
Usually HFF.
Feasts are an Odin-send.
Maybe I try magic this playthrough
I don't even use stamina food after I've got access to feasts.
that and am currently using early axes and enjoying them
i started sunday evening
They're really good for stanima. I only use the mistlands one in the Ashlands. Do you have to kill Fader to unlock the ash feast?
its really fun, its the only way ive been able to solo the queen
Yup.
Ash and Mistlands feasts alone are good enough to get you by into Plains (if you're just exploring).
With a health food, they're like god food.
AND you can use magic as well.
So, I love feasts.
Im playing ashlands in heavy armor with HSF
Ditch stamina, get another feast.
It's just so good.
And still more than enough stamina to get by.
Stamina food, IMHO, becomes useless after you got feasts.
when do you HFF versus HHS? been wondering, they're about the same but HFF is slightly lower stamina for greater hp regen
But then I'm no dodge-roller. ๐
I have never done a magic play through....I know I should at some point but I just have no desire to lol
I'm not a min-maxer, so I don't calculate exact numbers. Feasts are easy and cheap to make, so that's why I use them, and they give me enough stamina to go by.
(i just learned i'm a min-maxer ๐คญ)
Me: i should try spear, knife, atgeir, etc this playthrough
Ol reliable: 
๐
If I have to fight a boss, I usually go HHS. Except Fader. I use HHF there.
I'm avid HSF diet follower starting around mountains until end. But I also go light armor.
Can't do that. Need heavy armor once reaching plains.
Otherwise Lox and berserkers just kill me by looking at me wrong.
consider boss fighting with HFF the higher hp regen might make the difference
Iron brooch helps a lot while raiding fuling villages.
But you're also more vulnerable.
it's just as much hp and only slightly less stamina
I rarely get my iron brooch to trigger at all.
(sorry i am context blind)
Staggering enemies grant lots of adrenaline quickly. Atgeir secondary or battleaxing.
I carry a light peice of armor in addition to my heavy armor. It's super convenient bc when I'm exploring and wandering I equip the light peice, but if I'm fighting or storming something I equip the heavy armor. No need to have only one with you
And atgeir doesn't always give me a staggered effect on loxes and berserkers.
I agree, exploring is usually done with light armor.
i did some math recently
wolf skewer sausage eye scream
166 hp
wolf skewer wolf jerky black forest feast
166 hp
14 or 15 less stamina but 2 more hp/tick
that's why i'm a little obsessed i discovered hidden techniques
I'm not very good with the parry and dodge-roll thing. ๐
Ok, you ARE a min-maxer!
But good on you. I just roughly compare numbers and found out that BF feast, Swamps feast and wolf skewer is not that much worse than wolf skewer, sausage and eye scream.
Meanwhile I NEVER notice, much less think about, the hp/tick aspect of any food ๐
And feasts are SO much cheaper to make.
Using more feasts also saves up inventory space.
I don't find few HP/tick that much important, my playstyle involves lots of movement so I find HSF balanced enough for me.
Yeah, you're the polar opposite of me. ๐
Ok, I do MOVE a lot. But only in the "normal" sense.
I don't do dodge-rolls. Parries happen on a "Oh, I got lucky!" basis.
And my situational awareness is probably not as good as yours.
Guys my brother is graduating college in the next hour ๐
Awareness of surroundings is important, good to have back up plan if in need to back off.
my congratulations
I move in the frantic jump-reverse-sidestepp-don't-get-hit style ๐
Thankss we're waiting for them to come on stage
There is little about my playstyle. But this clip is from pre-Call to Arms version, so I did less parries back then. #memes-and-clips message

wait.
does bog witch only sell feast spice after moder is defeated?
youre a bit more active than me, im more of a let them group and come to me heavy armor style, i try to always hit more than one thing if possible and boop or parry to tell them to wait their turn til their friends get close
Also the ||scythe handle|| ๐
that's a yes 
-# And ||toadstool|| and ||fragrant bundle|| on top of the spice 
-# after moder is gone 
Each boss kill unlocks the spice for that biome. Moder unlocks mountain, yag plains, etc.
Ah Moder, the gatekeeper of QoL and upgrades.
can i get meadows/bf spice from eikthyr/elder?
Like Skyrim guards say:
"Lightly armored means light on your feet. Smart." 
Elder defeated unlocks the first spice.
ok.
He also said he got an arrow to the knee.
So he wasn't smart enough......
heavy armor means oops you hurt me a little-oops healed it all back with brooch, anyone else want to try?
if brooch wasnt in the game id play different, but the healing berserker who kills to stay alive is too fun
someone was asking a while ago "does valheim have medium armor"
And the answer is yes
Maybe knee wasn't armored. ๐
root legs and chest only reduce you're movement speed by 2% metal armor reduces it by 5 i think that's medium
gasp, maybe he was in a mage robe like one of those milk drinkers and didnt want to admit it
Rude
Well, I use brooch while raiding villages, it's nice for allowing take few hits and gaining the lost HP back plus some extra armor.
Leave my milk alone
what's the 2% speed reduce armor after root? there doesnt appear to be mountain example
Actually both ||mage armors|| later.
Whatโs the reduction on ||mage armors||?
Bears and deers being in the same faction (forest) is wild lmao
what? the bears eat all the blueberries?
They do like those ๐
They are only mobs that eat something and cannot be tamed. ๐
Both belong to forest faction.
vegetabanimal 
Like most meadows/black forest mobs.
Uh... They're not in the same faction though.
I don't know how to make it more clearer that they are lmao
On mobile this just looks as images arent loading if i dont open them
They are tho
Deers are AnimalVeg faction.
Bears are ForestMonster faction.
Or what does "Forest" mean?
Meadows mobs are all forest faction
Are those modded factions?
So is the stone golem for some reason...
Simply "forest" is faction to most meadows/bf mobs.
Intentionally, to cause infighting in mountains.
Ok but there's no "Forest" faction.
Deers are AnimalVeg and Bears are ForestMonster
Fair enough
AnimalVeg are creatures that don't have attacks and don't use MonsterAI.
-# If I see animalveg one more time
No... Vanilla factions.
Could be different types of factions. But everyone else is talking about alliance factions. Greydwarves, bears, deer, boar, stone golem, etc. are forest faction, and mobs donโt target their own faction
The proper in game id for the faction is indeed ForestMonsters, but both deer and bear are part of that
That's because different factions don't fight with each other, still not part of the same faction.
No, deers are AnimalVeg
Cookie you never answered Joel ๐
Think of it this way, AnimalVeg and MonsterAi are behaviors for the mobs, when we say faction we are talking about how different mobs interact with others. Since bears and deer don't attack each other, they are in the same faction, since abominations and bears attack each other they are in opposing factions
I think its this one
You're right, I had to get on the PC to double check and it is indeed Forest Monsters.
Or maybe I just confused myself that Deer don't use MonsterAI but AnimalAI 
oh
Yep, must be that... I apologize
they act differently, but everything in meadows, black forest(except skellies) and stone golems are all the same faction
Now, what the heck used AnimalVeg that confused me so much..
Tbf there is and AnimalVeg faction listed in Kirilloids data, but so far i dont see anything using it
Oh well, I apologize for arguing and being wrong 
You're entitled to your wrong opinion โจ โค๏ธ
Not even wrong opinion, just wrong facts lol
AH! Rabbits are AnimalsVeg it seems ๐
AHA
Permission to nickname Cookie "AnimalVeg"
lol wtf
The Hare
Oh
||Mistlands||
Yeah that would make sense
viles too
Well, back to bed and hope I'm not wrong again in a few years
Rest well ๐
-# He did.
True, I never carry blueberries there tho lol.
Afraid of a wall
yep, a wall could infact be the wall of flesh!
No like I woke up looked at the wall and the wall made me not understand where I was
-# Another Terraria reference!
It was a whole different plane of existence I was on because idk the wall
A wall is a place
Overcome your fears caretaker is free on steam, and Hogwarts legacy is free on Epic games. Both available for free for a short time. Hogwart until tomorrow.
Haha imagine if Valheim was on the Epic Store.
My PC is relatively new, never will install Epic store on this one ๐คฎ
no matter how many "free" games there are
I have "The Messenger" - a game there
that was the only game I ever played on Epic
if I ever wanna play it again, I'll just buy it on steam instead
They would probably be forced to give away Valheim to the 5 users EG has.
I installed epic cause there was a rocket league tournament in the lan party i was at
I have no Epic user but I have one for GoG.
what's GoG
also speaking of which
wasn't discord going to do something like that at some point
I have a faint memory of it
Another platform similar to Steam or Epic Store.
There are some older games too, one specifically was reason I made the account there.
"Be a man and build a base in the swamp biome!" - Some rude Viking
Good Old Games owned by CD Project who made The Witcher, Cyberpunk 2077 etc.
All about DRM free etc.
๐ค
Nice if you believe in DRM free and like to keep installers etc.
CD Projekt Red GOAT
But like with AI I don't care for DRM and buy on steam anyway.
Steam is the only place I would ever buy games from.
Witcher 4 when
I am honestly more excited for the supposed new witcher 3 dlc in the works ๐
BLASPHAMER
I want a new Cyberpunk
To this day i still sing the battle songs in witcher 3
Hehe, i am excited for W4 too, but i am quite certain that i will have to upgrade my pc before i will be able to play that. So i am more excited for the dlc.
And spread
what
True
wtf?
spread peanutbutter
She's gonna spread the butter on the toast is what I mean.
Didnt you go to sleep Cookie? ๐
exactly
how do y know she even likes peanut butter
i'm smart like that
is that in the witcher lore?
I went back to bed after I was wrong about Deers
That was less than hour and a half ago tho ๐
I still haven't been able to move on
You don't understand how much it hurt
I'm supposed to know these things
I look forward to tonight when it gets cooler so I can go back to windrose and my boar pet.
Perhaps the AnimalVeg is in Windrose
I will name my pet boar AnimalVeg
Please do ๐
Hadnt heard about that, tjough Iโm replaying the game right now
Iโd be surprised to see a dlc at this point tho
I've seen today on the instagrams
a troll inn
and it looked mighty nice
considering it was on instagram
there's 0 chance I'd find it again
the troll was the bartender, it looked crazy
You can register to Epic Games (and to Steam too), and add the free games to your library through the website using a browser, without installing the Epic launcher or Steam, and without installing the game on your hard drive. You can just add the game, and then install it later if you want to and when you can install it if your system doesnt meet the requirements or if you dont have hd space for it right now.
it's been posted in this server i know exactly what you were talking about
the floor was checkered, right?
I think so
oh boy you're right
One quick search and I found it #memes-and-clips message
I saw that one in Youtube, so there's hope you can find it ๐
Taming trolls is like curing the Krogan, im killing all of them
i don't want us to tame trolls but if they could be bribed that'd be pretty funny
Thats for dvergr. I want a backstabbing mechanic for them. Ik you cant tame them bc theyre too smart. But u can definitely dangle some keys (shiny coins) to manipulate them
is this a mechanic you want or one that already exists?
I already pretend were friends when im weak, then when seekers start attacking i suprise them by joining the bugs
I want
frick
Afternoon gjall ๐
They should let us make the chests that are found in the charred fortresses
What about beans......
That looks it needs a few layers of toast ๐ค
Evening gjall.
evil-ing, Gjall.
Night, Gjall
wish me luck after i defeat bonemass on my night of gjall
Na
silver is most likely to generate just at the very top of a mountain, right?
no, there's a minimum altitude but it doesnt get more common as you go up
Not usually. You need to have some altitude differences for it to spawn
is the minimum altitude pretty high?
150m elevation
how do i view my position?
It starts just higher than obsidian (25 m higher)
both numbers are slightly wrong
obsidian starts at 100
silver starts at 120
moder is minimum 150 i think
i haven't even seen any obsidian here ๐ซ
yeah you need to go to a different mountain
If no obsidian = no silver either.
then get rid of frost resistance you coward
i swear the later into the night i get the more obscure/comepletely unrelated to my music taste music on spotify
its so strange
*with the occational song i will actually listen to
we all go does the SOAD road some point during the evening
System of a Down is based
but is it the ultimate nu metal band?
Linkin Park - Deftones - Limp Bizkit - Korn - SOAD. hmmm
Tough to say
well. you might not be scandinavian. so you never end up in the lordi swamp of songs
how u know this
I got my sources ๐
i am one of you
so which is the best children of bodom song? ๐ค
ok so you have opened up a can of worms
obviously Kissing the Shadows in my number 1
however that would not be the popular opinion
the correct answer would be all of them
mhm for sure
ik its not nu metal but i would say nirvana or arctic monkeys are fav band
maybe red hot chilli peppers
Red hot is nice
i agree
Fact of the matter is
ez
morgen gjall ๐
I live in California therefor it must be californiacation
my answer is on my profile
im more interested in your dog
It's either Californication, or by the way
what is his story?
both very good songs
she is a rescue
and she kinda just does her own thing
oh lord. now I am going down the path
what have you doine Smiffe
The white stripes came next.........................
oh no
Seven Nation Army is a banger
nope ๐
come as you are is based
more of a TOOL guy myself
hmmmmm
indeed
bohemian rhapsody
The Hardest Button To Button
is the 2nd most popular song from them. never heard it
you guys are all over the fuckin place we just trancended three different genres of music in 10 seconds
u have ADD
but mama just killed a man
mr. kareoke here
same here
"i sometimes wish ive never been born at all"
cue epic guitar solo
Did you know that song is in the top 5 kareoke songs ever created
can you guess any of the others?
i would say shake it off is best karaoke song
ill give you a hint Journey sings one of them
dont stop believing
There was a baby bunny hiding in the corner of my brother's apartment entrance I picked up the baby bunny and put it in the bushes ๐ ๐ฐ
is lithium by nirvana up there?
a band called Boston and a band called Kansas each have a song in the top 5 as well
smiffe is a man of culture
my profile always shows what music im listening to
and im always listening to music
except when im not
but have you ever put peanut butter on your pancakes?
i have infact done that
based
the beatles are based
more of a zeppelin guy myself
im not rlly a fan of zeppelin ngl
if you were not so much bigger than me we would possibly be in a physical altercation for such blasphemer
its ok
my opinion isnt based off one song
i actually tried to listen to him
but just didnt enjoy it
ok how about Pink Floyd?
Yes
i agree with that statement
"each morning i get up i die a little"
"can barely stand on my feet"
"take a look at yourself in the mirror and cry"
im personally a pepsi max person
but my mom doesnt buy it cos she says its too unhealthy
Same nowadays.
but mom. it says max
Apparently she knew deleting game icons from desktop didn't delete the games too, right?
my mom used to pull the internet cord out randomly to get me to come upstairs
so i told her everytime she does that the internet company charges a premium on the bill
kek
nope
one of the nice things about being a 60 yrld techy... my watercooled 5090 went on the credit card and nobody looks at the bill
i gotta pretty important question for you guys
who wins in a 1v1 Darth Vader or Voldemort?
harry potter spells seem a lot slower than blaster fire, so ima say vader easily blocks it all while throat crushing him with the other hand
then heโd be busy thinking about them instead of the fight
but he cant die. so is there a possibility he just keeps coming back over and over until he wins?
unless they were there cheering him on that might help his chances
well first of all thats not exactly how they work, second i was making a joke because what you actually wrote that is NOT โhorcruxโ
oh is that-oops the discord ap closed
it depends on how badly mortally wounded he'd be by a light saber
force-snatch the wand with one hand and chockey-choke with the other.
expelliarmus.
hoo-ber.
had the terrifying mental image of everything in the path of a lightsaber melting except the one ring
interesting takes
theoretically sauron is immortal but a lightsaber is slicey dicey numero uno
Sauron he's a spirit what are lazers gonna do ๐
The force has nothing on him
oh consider also the bulk of sauron's power comes from the organized warfare of orcs
Why do you think they didn't just storm Modor with their armies if they could defeat him with physical weapons xD
all we know is that Sauron was utterly defeated and vanished from middle earth.
Yes, but Sauron is still invincible while the One Ring is in existence. If you know your Middle-earth history, Sauron has actually been defeated prior to the war in the books. Isildur killed him with a sword while he was still human. But bc when Sauron crafted the one ring, he poured part of his essence into it, so he was still attached to the mortal realm. He lay in wait, growing his power and crafting more enemies in the depths of Modor
valheim: shadow of moder
I wonder if JRRT was planning for Sauron when he wrote Hobbit and Galdalf went south on another matter during the Murkwood chapter
Isildur is to blame for everything ngl ๐ Elrond and his other allies begged him to toss the ring into Mount Doom all those years ago. HE WAS RIGHT THERE ๐ญ but Isildur said no and took it for himself since it called to him. Then when he later was under attack he put the ring on to be invisible and dove into a river. But the ring betrayed him and slipt off and the soldiers saw him and shot him. Hence, why it's called Isildur's Bane
I am the ultimate LOTR nerd. Read it four times lol
what about The Silmarillion?
I haven't gotten to it yet lol. I own Unfinished Tales but haven't read it. I honestly stopped reading. And I don't know I'd enjoy them as much
What about Farmer Ham of Gile.. or is it Giles of Ham. hmm
thats one I haven't read
I wish I could play valheim
You don't need to post this daily
why cant you?
My parents don't give
Then go earn it. Do a few extra chores or something
Is there anyway to fix the stutters on pc
I can run in a straight line and get a half second freeze every 10 seconds or so
Ar-Pharazon the Golden 
Morgen gjall
Guten Morgen, Gjall. ๐
2 out of 6 pizza slices gone 
Mornin gjall ๐
it's midnight here, but technically:
Morgen Gjall! ๐
2:39am here. Also playing Windrose ๐คฃ
OH SHIT YOU GOT IT, NICE!!
Morgen gjall ๐ for the second time
๐โโ๏ธ

oh nooo, baseball games day yesterday, i missed favourite stream channel back on air ๐ ๐ฟ ๐ค
oh no!
Ok everyone I had a cool idea for a community event
Letโs summon Ekthyr and beat the shit out of it with clubs
what a cool 20 sec event
10 of wich for summoning animation eheh
irl or ingame? ๐ค
@tardy vale you have the youtube chanel that build Edoras?
ah yea. seen that one
i left a mesege on #building-ideas if som one has the golden hall dimensions i wod like to build that on the server that i play with my frends and i dident find any dimensons on the hall
I might have been me but not sure, i was struggling to scrol the sidebar xD, sorry if that was the case
no I did
๐
ah lol
I sometimes move people who are muted and silence to see if they are sleeping or not
I'm modding GTA SA ๐
that's not even the same name
sry for the misunderstanding
Wym? We get to beat a deer with sticks
Best event ever
We can all yell profanities while we do it
how long do you think that will last
#general message uh remember this, that's maybe my fav rendition, SmittySurvival in general is one of the very good ones
I don't think he will last a long time irl ๐ค
Deer wins
ym rl version? not that harmless as they are in
, not recommended eheh
boars are more realistic, but rl ones have a perk with a possibility to one-shot ya
i killed a single star dear that dropped 8 meat pieces in a dream i had last night
eheh yep that's a dreamy yield indeed
Hi peopleee
Morgen gjall
Good morning Valheim =+)
Looking for a reliable corn supplier.
No beans please, only corn.
@hidden glade No beans.
I will become the corn king like you're the bean king.
do i hear a rivalry brewing
what are you, mormont's raven?
I love corn
i love beans ๐ซ
