general

[rugged stag]

lmao, nice one

valheim now, keep up ❤️

[marsh sentinel]

Nope, #general, we're good.

[tough aspen]

Soooo, ashlands when?

[rugged stag]

https://tenor.com/view/never-real-housewives-of-beverly-hills-rhobh-not-happening-not-gonna-happened-gif-20816444

[tough aspen]

Good! I'm not r

[rugged stag]

R?

assuming you meant ready?

[fleet breach]

r

[proven dagger]

Yes, from quite dark pink till light pinkish.
The ones I know are all fruit beers though.

[tough aspen]

i dunno, i wan

[proven dagger]

Pink killer seems up your alley.
Pink grapefruit is what makes it pink.

[tough aspen]

🩷

[proven dagger]

Belzebuth is with framboise.

[mild mauve]

Stick some red 40 in there 🇺🇸 🦅 🦅🦅

[drowsy imp]

https://tenor.com/view/fox-fox-coffee-coffee-furry-foxfox-gif-27187755

[edgy quail]

hello

[fossil bobcat]

Sup

[fossil bobcat]

At 8pm🗿 (joking obv it's jynxzi reference)

[edgy quail]

in my last period of school right now only an hour to go

[fossil bobcat]

Awesome

[stone wedge]

Afternoon gents

[fossil bobcat]

Good evening
Good afternoon
Good night

[lyric prism]

good morning

[stone wedge]

Do you yall think a rope “zipline” would be a cool idea to add? Being able to use the cart with the zipline so you could send items in one direction quickly and easily

[modest moth]

Nope

Thinking of new ways to overcome obstacles >>>>> having everything handed to you on silver plate

[drowsy imp]

No ashlands content outside of PTB channels folks

[fossil bobcat]

Mb fr

[proven dagger]

I'd sell the silver plate, buy me a normal plate and keep the change and use it for other things.

[modest moth]

https://tenor.com/view/hombre-trabajos-hora-de-aventura-negocios-businessman-gif-15861738

[drowsy imp]

https://tenor.com/view/hombre-trabajos-hora-de-aventura-negocios-businessman-gif-15861738

This is the first time I've seen a Spanish tenor link

Very curious

[modest moth]

Tenor is a pathway to many gifts some would consider... Non-english

[vivid field]

ehhh. jumping off a mountain in the mistcape is pretty friggen awesome. setting up a zipline would be just as if not more challenging than portals

going down the mountain is not nearly as challenging as going up it

[stone wedge]

I’ve only just beaten the elder and got iron, so I feel there’s things I hadn’t discovered yet. However I feel like ether a larger cart or some type of system where you could transport materials in a quicker manner. I enjoy building large bases and the amount of materials needed to be gathered is quite frustrating

[oblique plover]

you did discover portals did you?

[stone wedge]

Yes portals are helpful, however I can’t take carts or ores through portals, I make multiple carts completely fill them with materials and get them one by one

[night comet]

Can't take ores and metals through portals.

[stone wedge]

^

[marsh sentinel]

Of course you can, if you set the right world modifier.

[oblique plover]

you could adjust your world modifiers so that you can transport metal via portals.

[drowsy imp]

Eh, I'd default to say you can't

Messing with modifiers shouldn't be your first solution

[marsh sentinel]

That's valid

[stone wedge]

I don’t change the world modifiers

[drowsy imp]

Good on ya~

[oblique plover]

if it's your first run i'd also suggest to not change the modifiers like Scarlet said.

[night comet]

My friend and I are doing an immersive play through. No map. No portals.

[stone wedge]

Nice, I use map and portal, I’m also doing it blind so I have no idea what I’m running into or what’s gonna happen to me

[night comet]

Its a fun thing to explore. Enjoy!

[vague haven]

Guys is ashlands fully out?

[elfin turtle]

still ptb

[vague haven]

You know how long is this ptb? 😭

[tardy vale]

https://tenor.com/view/shrug-gif-25269231

[hard iron]

Please keep Ashlands talk and questions to the #valheim-public-test channel

[tight crescent]

Apologies

[hard iron]

Just until the beta is over, but still trying to preserve spoilers for people 😉

[analog imp]

it's my first playthrough, i already use mods and portal modifier

[frosty walrus]

Mods can often unintentionally break the game in ways completely unrelated to the mod's content.

[celest hill]

Hello everyone 🐧

[tardy vale]

English only please

[unique lance]

Hi there does someone know when Ashland is coming out to Xbox or ps5??

[tough aspen]

[vivid field]

(or scroll up less than 10 messages)

[karmic grotto]

why are character models so streched when walking ? they look like aliens. shoulders very low, long neck and open mouth. Was it always like this ? i got back into the game and never noticed this

[tardy vale]

Valheim is already on Xbox. (info in the PTB channel how to gain access)
But not Playstation

[unique lance]

So when is the update coming out for Xbox if you don't mind me asking

[tardy vale]

comming out from PTB?

no date given atm

we don't plan to release it in a non-balance / bug-free state

so patience 😄

[unique lance]

Ok

[meager shell]

are there any Turkish people

[tardy vale]

might be some in #1024264966712340510 channel 🤔

if you're looking for people to play with

[whole totem]

Happy walpurgis everyone, if you're European you know.

[mild mauve]

They are a myth

[edgy quail]

Is the PTB buggy?

[hard iron]

In general no. There are some bugs with some new content and such, but until you get to that it's perfectly solid.

But that's why it's in PTB and not full release yet 😉

[edgy quail]

i see ive been waiting for the ashlands for so long im excited

[hard iron]

You're welcome to join it if you want to help find bugs, but hopefully it's not going to take too long for them to squash the known issues.

[edgy quail]

Yea Id rather just play the whole package tho

60 or so days i can sit with that

[tardy vale]

• worst case yes 😄

[edgy quail]

hope its going along well!

[tardy vale]

oh it is

[edgy quail]

good to hear

[hard iron]

Lots of people playing that are adept at finding cracks in systems 😛

[snow forge]

https://xkcd.com/2916/ is among the more fascinating and captivating things I've seen in a while. (click "view machine" to see the thing and "follow" to follow a ball around).

Oh and on the front page press the wrench to build your own thing.

[worn thorn]

any idea when full release might be?

[snow forge]

When it's ready. There's still stuff that needs fixing.

[modest moth]

Is tomorrow a holiday for Sweden?

[tardy vale]

yes

[snow forge]

It's the most important holiday of the year!

[tardy vale]

not a "holliday" but it's a off-day

[modest moth]

No patch tomorrow then ;-;

[tardy vale]

for ptb or ?

[vivid field]

yeah i'd assume ptb

[rare parrot]

having an off day is always nice

[modest moth]

Well I very much doubt you would release a patch for the live version while the PTB is on

[vivid field]

who doesn't love maintaining multiple git branches and resolving merge conflicts? lol

[snow forge]

raises hand.

[tardy vale]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-no-angry-steve-carell-michael-scott-gif-5606969

but we don't use GIT 😄

[plush flame]

Hi guys, do you know if it’s possible to import a map to the dedicate server apps ?

[shadow pewter]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[tardy vale]

--> #dedicated-server 🙂

[shadow pewter]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[tardy vale]

good play to ask

[modest moth]

Nope, it's an unknown concept for us

[hard iron]

git push master --force 😛

I am more than happy to give y'all a quick lesson on source management... please tell me you at least use Mercurial or Sourcesafe or some tool like that...

[vivid field]

teeheehee

[scenic dragon]

No, only git

[hard iron]

I mean, git is solid and ubiquitious, but at least some level of change management is like, table stakes for development

[cloud merlin]

This with no context looks really bad

[vivid field]

with context it's generally worse, lol

[cloud merlin]

We had some art devs do this and they broke our branches

[cloud merlin]

Lmao

Force push is great when you want to do initial commit version 30

[hard iron]

That's why you only have automation that can merge to master

[snow forge]

I only know one thing about git. Git good.

[vivid field]

... scrub

[echo drum]

Last thing I wanted this week, apparently Lincoln is in another tornado watch. Lol hopefully it just stays as a watch.

[gusty hazel]

The storms have been wild over the last week, good luck man

[zealous anchor]

that just reminds me of reincarted as a slime

[umbral fog]

Ha, i just started to watch the new season since i wanted to see how different it will be from manga 😄 (also i could read it again, Its been some time)

[zealous anchor]

im reading the LN and watching season 3 atm have to switch timelines every time i start reading or start watching the anime

[whole totem]

Interesting! How so? Did something specific from the anime come to mind?

[zealous anchor]

the walpurgis council, a meeting between the demon lords

[hallow mango]

hi

[zealous anchor]

hello

[hallow mango]

how to play

[whole totem]

That's a unique twist! Sounds intense.

[zealous anchor]

used to be a get together for the first demon lords to eata nd enjoy some peace but turned into bussiness when more demonlords awoke

[umbral fog]

start the game?

[umbral fog]

yeah, basically tea party for Guy, Millim and Ramiris 😄

[zealous anchor]

yup

[hallow mango]

i did

[hallow mango]

and now??

[umbral fog]

you make a character and new world i guess 🙂

[hallow mango]

how

[mortal herald]

listen to the raven

[marsh sentinel]

I don't think they're that far yet.

[mortal herald]

seems like they're in the game, just don't know how to play it, i dont remember when hugin shows up first

but you gotta gather rocks and sticks from the ground and make a hammer

[umbral fog]

you start the game, there you are in main menu, you click start game , on the right side you have new, there you make a character and give it a name, you click done and after that start , you have select world screen open and again new, you enter some name and again click done, after that you click the nice start button 😄

[hallow mango]

thanks (:

[umbral fog]

they asked how they make a character and world... i highly doubt they are in game...

[tropic obsidian]

Hi there anyone knows if there is a superior tier pickaxe after the iron pickaxe

[umbral fog]

they replied this #general message on my message "you make a character and new world i guess 😄 "...

[umbral fog]

yes there is 😄 you need mistlands material for it tho

[frosty walrus]

Black metal pickaxe is available with mistlands materials + black metal

[tropic obsidian]

Oh thank you

Both of you haha

[azure parrot]

So what’s everyone’s best guess on release date. 2 more weeks of Ptr, so release sometime week of May 13-17?

[marsh sentinel]

When it's ready. There's little point guessing.

[snow forge]

Some time in the next couple of months.

[hard iron]

The hard part about guessing is that very few of us have any insight into how hard any of the various known issues will be to fix, so any guesses are based on nothing solid. The only guarantee we have is the end of June, promised by 1H2024.

[snow forge]

That guarantee, of course, is just provided nothing unexpected shows up to postpone it.

But it's very much expected to be out before the end of June.

[azure parrot]

That’s a given. This guess is based on they are ahead of schedule with everything already on Ptr in April, clearly going to be before end of June

[marsh sentinel]

You clearly have insight the rest of us don't.

[azure parrot]

Well mistlands was on Ptr for 13 days. It’s not that crazy

[marsh sentinel]

Mistlands was a completely different update.

[lunar musk]

apples and oranges?

[frosty walrus]

This update could have more bugs and issues than mistlands, that may be harder to find or fix, so it could easily take longer.

[drowsy imp]

I thought the bugs on mistlands was a selling point

[tepid granite]

Are there gonna be sieges? If so i can't wait to return to the game! Trailer looks amazing

[lunar musk]

all talk around the public test must be kept to the relevant channel, we can discuss it there

[tepid granite]

Ok

[lunar musk]

it's #valheim-public-test 👍

[tepid granite]

Says access denied 😔

[umbral fog]

you will have to select the "i want to be a public tester" role in id:customize 😄

[tepid granite]

Thx guys

[fickle sandal]

I just love the music. There should be an award for that, AND you should get it.

[noble kiln]

Anyone here?

[umbral fog]

no 😛

[rugged stag]

https://tenor.com/view/foreign-stance-racoon-racoon-blanket-racoon-blanket-cute-racoon-blanket-hide-gif-22051812

[noble kiln]

Just have a question and I don't know where to ask. Tried in the valheim -help but got no answer

[drowsy imp]

Oh, I see your question

[rugged stag]

Hopefully this helps?
https://www.reddit.com/r/valheim/comments/11ttig5/question_for_cross_play_between_xbox_and_pc/

[noble kiln]

I just want to join a server haha not make my own

[odd venture]

Just joined this disc I do appologize if this isn't the place but is there any plan to fix the performance issue in regards to the gpu?

[rugged stag]

The above link explains how to join as well?

[drowsy imp]

If you're looking for a server to play in, try browsing through #1024264966712340510

[noble kiln]

It says I need an ip and password but no idea where to find that. I've been searching for three days now

[drowsy imp]

You need to contact the admin of a server you want to join and ask them directly

[frosty walrus]

All valheim servers need a password

[drowsy imp]

you can find server ads in #1024264966712340510

[umbral fog]

there are no official servers, just player runned ones

[drowsy imp]

Can even filter for Xbox servers

[noble kiln]

Ah ok I'll try that out, sorry for being dumb haha

Thank you btw

[odd venture]

Is there anything we can do about our GPU running hot as heck for this game? I'm liquid cooled and still running 77c at the gpu

[vivid field]

check your drivers, switch to/from vulkan renderer, file bug report / wait for fixes / optimizations

fiddle with postprocessing settings

[odd venture]

I just let nvi exp chose for the most part, but I guess it must be because its still early dev?

[merry mist]

https://tenor.com/view/adventure-time-coffee-time-coffee-gif-12925064

[mortal cobalt]

cant hear anyone in voice chat

[marsh sentinel]

Maybe noone is talking.

[prisma ruin]

is there a light source that doesnt scare boars?

[echo horizon]

when is ashlands live?

[drowsy imp]

Tamed boars should no longer be afraid of fires

[echo horizon]

when tame they are not scared of light, maybe wisp lights? but i am not too sure

[drowsy imp]

Once devs have decided it's good enough for stable branch. Ergo, no bugs or balance changes needed.

[vivid field]

can confirm -- I have a hanging brazier in my pig pen (and chicken pen), they don't mind it at all

[prisma ruin]

OOoooo thanks babe

[drowsy imp]

Cheers~

[obsidian sentinel]

I need homies that play valheim ! Where you at??

[hard iron]

They're all hanging out in #1024264966712340510

[lean fable]

[obsidian sentinel]

Not really, from what i can tell! Most are unresponsive

[hard iron]

Wish I had better answers. That's the place to make posts or find people, this is for chat.

[obsidian sentinel]

so, you are telling me that i cant get in chat and say i am looking for friends to play with?

[hard iron]

Pretty much. When it's really slow like this it's not a big deal, but it tends to clutter up the channels with other chat when it's busy, so it's better to keep it all in the correct place.

You can always jump in the voice chat channels, start streaming or see if people there want to get together and play.

[obsidian sentinel]

wild.

[river vapor]

is the game out of beta yet?

I mean ashlands

[untold night]

Have you got your game set to auto-update?

[river vapor]

yeah. I see updates on steam. just curious cause im trying to catch up in time

[untold night]

Nah, it's a a way away.

[river vapor]

dang really? I was thinking like next week or something

[marsh sentinel]

Ashlands could be in the next couple of weeks.

[humble otter]

Any modding experts here i have a question. feel free to dm me if you think you think you could possible help

[drowsy imp]

#mods-issues or #mods-discussion would be the place to ask

[high epoch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/792663265050099713/1235049889831059477/pepefrg-4.gif

[snow forge]

Happy Worker's Day!

[rotund pewter]

Meowning all you happy workers!
Aaaand Meowning to all unhappy workers too ❤️❤️❤️
Extra loves for you!

[outer saddle]

anyone doing just public test ashlands that i could join

[simple meadow]

I hav free today yall to?

[cinder quest]

Hey dudes, is the public test branch stable enough to enjoy playing or is it in a state of heavy debugging ?

[short thistle]

its pretty stable but there are still a few bugs hanging around
it's fine for casual play and testing

[untold hinge]

@devout girder Hey, I have a question concerning you PTB branch build piece villa. Could I ask it in dms please?

[tough aspen]

[untold hinge]

(It’s just about if I can use it as a framework for a build of my own, imagine it like in Star Trek, take the TOS Conni and now change EVERYTHING till you get the refit Connie.
And how he did that thing with the entrance door.
No deer for the deer to be nervous. As the Bees are happy

[tough aspen]

My deer had nothing to do with you bb dw

[untold hinge]

Alrighty 🙂

[tough aspen]

Just my morning scream

[zealous anchor]

its the daily deer scream

[devout girder]

ok.

[mild topaz]

hi whats up

[edgy quail]

hey

[tender quail]

So is the new TP a bugg? I see people that are tping and mobs attack me while I have loading screen
Wasen't like that before afaik?

[simple meadow]

iis it safe now to play the ashlands in ur main server?

[zenith viper]

can the bugs be cooked? for better stamina?

[untold hinge]

Yes

You can cook seekers

[fleet breach]

Pretty good meat

[untold hinge]

Indeed

[untold hinge]

Thank you, have to friend you so I can message you

[devout trout]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-and-jerry-tom-falling-asleep-too-sleepy-sleepy-gif-14908858

[umbral fog]

Afternoon gjall 😄

[edgy quail]

hallo

[mighty hollow]

BRRYYUUOAOAAAAAAAHHH

[lunar musk]

both reassuring and disturbing xD

[tawdry prawn]

Hello all...

[oblique plover]

hello lovely ppl!

[scenic wing]

Morning fellas- for anyone who remembers, I got a picture of a fruit from my fruit tree. Still trying to figure out what kind of tree this is…

If anyone is particularly skilled at identifying trees/fruits, let me know because I’m trying to figure out what kind of tree I have in my backyard lol

[short thistle]

im positive theres an app for that

I used one often when i used to hike

[half latch]

inaturalist is the app you're thinking of

[oblique plover]

i used flora incognita, but that might be a german app, not sure

[scenic wing]

Hmm just used leaf snap… the image of leaves says it’s a peach tree, the image of the fruit says it’s an Inca-peanut. So obviously it’s peachnut tree.

[snow forge]

It's a pink itchynut trea.

[hard iron]

Peaches and apricots are very similar both by leaf and fruit. What hardiness zone are you in? ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hardiness_zone )

[drowsy imp]

https://tenor.com/view/fox-fox-coffee-coffee-furry-foxfox-gif-27187755

[scenic wing]

Hmm looks like I’m in zone 8?

[hard iron]

Then an inca-peanut is probably not it, they're around 10-11. DM me the pix?

[umbral fog]

could i take a look at them too? 😄 not an expert or anything just curious how this mystery tree looks

[gloomy rock]

That just happens to be how I identify

[scenic wing]

Just sent y’all some pictures of the tree/fruit!

[hard iron]

For anyone curious, my personal opinion is that it's a peach tree 😉 Definitely something related, possibly an apricot or something. It is not an inca-peanut by any stretch 😛

[umbral fog]

same, i vote for peach 😄

[tough aspen]

....did you forget.......someone........

[scenic wing]

LOL I didn’t want to bother you out of the blue!

[tough aspen]

Oh pls I wish people bothered me ;-;

[marsh sentinel]

You're already a peach.

[tough aspen]

You cutiepie ❤️

[hoary aspen]

we have an issue me and my friend updated our game to th etest branch

we tried to log into our world we cant log in

says update verssion he is running an old verssion of valheim

[tropic ermine]

So is ashlands out? does public test mean its out since this game is "in beta"

[marsh sentinel]

No, public test means the update is in public testing. The game is in Early Access.

[fathom prawn]

Gaming

[tropic ermine]

soo ashlands soon?

[marsh sentinel]

Probably in a few weeks, yeah.

[gray jolt]

Quick question, I saw something I hadn't seen before, probably added when I wasn't playing: A dock offshore from the plains with what looked like witches on it. What is it?

[hard iron]

I would guess those are Dvergr, from the Mistlands... be careful going there until you've defeated the Plains boss. They are friendly unless you make a misstep, but there are a lot of other very unfriendly creatures there.

[gray jolt]

Odd because mistlands isn't far away but it was directly offshore of plains on a tiny island. the "dock" was much bigger than the island. Thanks!

[hard iron]

Yeah, outposts like that happen with world gen sometimes. I've seen burial chambers in the meadows, sunken crypts in the Plains, surtling geysers in the black forest, they're usually within a few hundred meters of their "home" biome, but not directly in it.

[gray jolt]

Yes I find examples to things like that, I found a troll cave in the meadows that had no troll or chests, just an empty cave.

[minor prawn]

very simple question, should I stick to one type of weapon throughout the game, and lvl up the skill with that particular weapon? For example I've been using flint axe so my axe lvl is high, should I stick to crafting axes or its better to use bronze sword for example?

[frosty walrus]

It’s best to rely on multiple damage types because of enemy resistances.

[minor prawn]

I just thought that its simpler to only use axe cuz it deals dmg and it cuts wood xd

[umbral fog]

thats what i did on my first playthrough 😄

[frosty walrus]

It’s definitely possible, but some enemies and bosses will be very slow to kill if you don’t have anything else.

[minor prawn]

but anyways whats the most recommended weapon type to use and fight with? There are 4 people on the server, and im sure nobody will want to craft every type of dmg

[umbral fog]

i would say blunt is most universal, but slash is also great 😄

[frosty walrus]

Maces are incredibly strong throughout the entire game, blunt is a great damage type against most enemies and they have high staggering and knockback on their secondary attack

[minor prawn]

thank you, thats what I needed to hear, so mace it is

[frosty walrus]

Also you’ll want a bow going into the 4th and 6th biomes because of flying ranged enemies

[minor prawn]

yeah, bow is not even a question

[umbral fog]

yeah, basically every time you can upgrade bow, go for it 😄

[gray jolt]

I stick with sword and club, bow for ranged.

[frosty walrus]

In my first playthrough I didn’t make one until I discovered these enemies

[minor prawn]

im still using the basic bow but we're getting to bronze age, when will I be able to craft a better new bow?

[frosty walrus]

Have you chopped a pine tree and birch tree?

[umbral fog]

yep, when you get 2 other types of wood you can make next bow 😄

[minor prawn]

no, haven't crafted a bronze axe, cuz friends needed armors first 😛

[frosty walrus]

You need a bronze axe to chop birch and oak trees for finewood

[minor prawn]

allright so I wont upgrade the current bow then

[umbral fog]

bronze armor is kinda waste of bronze imo 😄 troll armor is more than good enough + less movement penalty

[minor prawn]

proll? troll you mean?

[umbral fog]

yeah

[frosty walrus]

make troll armor if you can, the defence difference is tiny compared to other light armors, you have no movespeed reduction and there’s nothing else to use troll hide for

[minor prawn]

allright niice, thanks for the advice

we didnt craft troll armors cuz, we can already craft bronze

but then we'll farm some trolls

[frosty walrus]

If you already have full bronze armor there’s no point throwing it away, but any remaining slots can be replaced

[gloomy rock]

No need to call him out here though

[minor prawn]

any other useful advice?

[umbral fog]

not really, make axe and cultivator, you dont really need bronze pickaxe, antler is good enough for BF and swamp

[frosty walrus]

Rolling makes you invincible, for some reason Hugin doesn’t want to tell us.

It helps a ton when fighting trolls with melee weapons, just make sure you time it right

[minor prawn]

so basically dark souls?

[frosty walrus]

Yes, but the invincibility lasts a lot longer than dark souls

[minor prawn]

I see, gotta test that then

[gloomy rock]

It’s actually so long

A nothing statement but a true one

[frosty walrus]

If you have a bronze buckler user in your world, they should be able to parry the troll with good health food.

[umbral fog]

thats what sh....

[minor prawn]

and lets say cuz we're 4 people should we do it like 1 person blunt 1 person pierce 1 person slash 1 person idk? or just simply go for whatever we want

bruh, im kiting the troll and killing it with bow xd

[gloomy rock]

People should just pick what they like tbh

Bow is op tbh

[frosty walrus]

I’ve never actually done this, is it any good?

[umbral fog]

yeah, everyone can go with any weapon they like 😄 doesent really matter much

[frosty walrus]

I usually roll around with a knife if I encounter one early in the playthrough

[gloomy rock]

You should have people using spears so it’ll be funny on the mountains

Just everyone use spears

[minor prawn]

yeah one of us is using spears? what can I expect?

[frosty walrus]

And against bonemass

[minor prawn]

you know what? no spoiler

[umbral fog]

Geeeeeerm... dont... XD

[frosty walrus]

A fun gameplay experience

It shouldn’t be too bad, they’re usually very good

[minor prawn]

and what about skills? whats the best way to lvl up bow skill?

[umbral fog]

third boss 😄

[frosty walrus]

Uncharged shots give the same xp, but let you get more xp per kill by getting more hits

being rested improves skill gain, try to always be rested whenever possible when playing valheim because the other buffs from it are also helpful

[gloomy rock]

Just spam arrows truly

[minor prawn]

aand, what weapon types should we really avoid?

[gloomy rock]

There isn’t a bad weapon tbh

There’s always a trade off like axe isn’t too fancy at combat but you save a slot, knife hits less but no movement penalty and higher backstab bonus

Did you guys make stagbreaker?

[frosty walrus]

I’ve never liked two-handed clubs because their damage is so low but if you want to give them a try there’s nothing wrong with that.

[gloomy rock]

They have a fancy effect though

A cheese effect tbh

[minor prawn]

so far 1 spear guy (will change to atgeir prolly) 1 knife guy (will change to sword) me blunt and the 4th one turret. standing in 1 position and chargin the bow to miss the shot

[gloomy rock]

I think stagbreaker is the first weapon with an effect

Made from eikthyr

[minor prawn]

that shit does more bad than good

[frosty walrus]

Atgeirs are op, the secondary can easily stagger enemies

[minor prawn]

thats nice to hear tbh

[gloomy rock]

It’s neat as a new player and has utility use

[frosty walrus]

Am I using it wrong somehow? Two-handed clubs just seem to kill things really slowly when I use them.

[gloomy rock]

Nah they are slow

[frosty walrus]

What are they useful for in combat then?

[gloomy rock]

Cheese

But you can also find ores with them

[umbral fog]

that is or will be patched soon tho 🙂

[gloomy rock]

Oh lame

[heavy ice]

Is there any estimate to when is Ashlands going to be released?

[umbral fog]

no, it will be out after devs are happy with the ptb version 😄 no later than june 30th 23:59:59 tho

[burnt quiver]

I kind of doubt it will take until the end of June. ashlands have been in test for a week now and only 2 small patches have been needed to fix minor issues. I'm sure a few more will be needed for a couple things here and there but I think ashlands will be on main branch in another week or so.

[heavy ice]

Somebody approve that PR quickly please 😄

[burnt quiver]

you can see it your self... on steam or the discord. they have only added 2 patches for ashlands so far.

I think biggest issue was something to do with portals disconnecting randomly but that was fixed and so far nothing else game breaking has popped up.

[heavy ice]

Thank you for the information

[burnt quiver]

yep 😄

[heavy ice]

Time to grind a new world 😄

[burnt quiver]

I was thinking about doing the same thing.

[scenic dragon]

alternatively they have only been able to make 2 small patches and that there is still large underlying problems :p

my personal guess is that there is 1 month left of ptb

[marsh sentinel]

"only"? That's really speedy work.

[marsh sentinel]

There's only one real game-breaking bug right now and the rest are just a bit of balancing and tweaking. A couple of weeks I'd say.

[burnt quiver]

for real at least 2 weeks give or take

[scenic dragon]

I have intentionally gone out of my way to not see the progress of the ptb so i know nothing about the current status :p

Though our guesses are pretty similar so im not that terribly far off

[burnt quiver]

I haven't read anything about what's new. just keeping a eye on when they drop any patches. I wanna be ready for when it hits live.

[scenic dragon]

Currently im only in the stage of the game where you die in the swamp repeatedly so i wont be ready regardless

[burnt quiver]

it will most likely be ready before June. I dont think it will take 2 months to fix bugs.

[scenic dragon]

Yeah before june sounds like a safe bet

[burnt quiver]

ohh... swamps are a pain.

[scenic dragon]

They are more painful when its your first time and you are wearing troll armor

[burnt quiver]

too add to it. the devs have also kept more quite about the ashlands and worked on it a bit longer then mistlands befor showing anything big.

so good chance when something pops up they might know what to do to fix it faster.

[modest moth]

That's not the only thing that needs working tho

[burnt quiver]

what thing? i have not stated about any one thing.

ive just givein my own est. on the ashlands release. I could be way off.

unless you mean my claim towards bugs... then in that case you are wrong because anything that shows up wrong in a games program is a bug. so anything that cause the game to need a fix is a bug. no matter how little or big.

[marsh sentinel]

Not true at all. Balance issues aren't bugs.

[scenic dragon]

If its severe enough id be willing to call a balance issue a bug

[modest moth]

That it's not just bugs that need work

There are a lot of other things that need it.

[marsh sentinel]

Well, then I'm going to start calling aeroplanes frogs.

[rugged stag]

I can see their argument here though. If you consider a bug a “non-intended feature” on a current build of the game. Then sure, perhaps a balance issue is a bug in that regard

But balance issue = balance issue. Bug = bug

[fathom dagger]

How close are we to Ashlands going live? Anyone know

[scenic dragon]

impossible to actually predict, a popular guess is somewhere between 2-5 weeks

[snow forge]

It's in public testing and will be released when it's ready.

[rotund pewter]

Meowning

[plain flume]

tomorrow

[rancid hamlet]

hello

Is there option taht thunderstone from Haldor will be used in some new weapons? Or that resources are one time use? For Frostner and other things?

[snow forge]

The thunderstone is only used for the obliterator, iirc.

[rancid hamlet]

yep and thats that

some resources from Haldor are one time use

[proven dagger]

Morgen gjall.

[woeful shale]

i thought eevee could use it as well

[smoky gale]

When is update dropping

[oblique plover]

hello lovely ppl!

[tardy vale]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-gif-14971716903562013552

[proven dagger]

Soon™ meaning between now and 30 June 23:59.

[umbral fog]

Morgen Gjall 😄

[rancid hamlet]

whats up gjall?

[oblique plover]

work, work and work. and also work. and did i say work? and of course work.

[proven dagger]

You are a bit swamped with work it seems, the day draugrs on like that doesn't it?

[proven dagger]

#valheim-public-test message

[oblique plover]

i'll be a draugr at the end of the (work)week

[marsh sentinel]

Hopefully for your sake that's tomorrow.

[reef island]

Guys! How to enable console on microsoft version in valheim?

[marsh sentinel]

https://valheim.fandom.com/wiki/Developer_console#Enabling_the_console

[reef island]

Thanks!

[reef island]

It doesn’t work

[edgy quail]

afternoon

[marsh sentinel]

What doesn't work?

[rugged stag]

I'll take a guess and say "enabling the console"

[marsh sentinel]

That's a fair point, I was wondering perhaps which bit of it wasn't working though. 'It doesn't work' doesn't give me a lot to go on.

I spend my day job telling university lecturers this.

[fast trout]

Are they just piling it on now that you gave your notice?
Well, that took forever to send...
I give up. Discord mobile is no fun.

[proven dagger]

I bet some then go and say "You don't work." or something along those lines, no?
Or are they more polite?

[rugged stag]

Proceeds to click keys on the keyboard at a slow pace with one finger at a time - Uni lecturers

[marsh sentinel]

Not quite so sassy. But they do always assume it's a software problem LONG before considering it could be their fault.

[oblique plover]

it is! hopefully at 6pm and not at midnight like last week 🫠

[proven dagger]

Just hang in there for a few more weeks.

[burnt quiver]

O.O the dev list is twice as long today. I don't think I've seen this many on since i joined the discord.

given that was only a few weeks ago now.

[marsh sentinel]

I was about to say, you've been here about 10 days.

[burnt quiver]

yea but still

i havent seen more then 5 or 6 on at a time

[marsh sentinel]

There's only 14 in total, so it's never going to get that high.

[burnt quiver]

gives me good feels thinking they are hard at work making this great game for us. keep it up iron gate!

I mean 12/14 are on right now...

[marsh sentinel]

Well, I don't think them being in Discord has any bearing on how much or little they're working on the game.

[burnt quiver]

oh i know

key word is thinking

all in the nogin ya know

[marsh sentinel]

Whatever works, I guess.

[tardy vale]

https://tenor.com/view/work-gif-9070352192415256659

I work for 10 people all at once

does it count?

[burnt quiver]

indeed

[marsh sentinel]

Yes, absolutely. Also, you're the exception anyway. Being on Discord (at this time anyway) means you ARE working.

[tardy vale]

or am i? 😄

[burnt quiver]

yea for real... your always working and managing to chat with peeps.

[proven dagger]

<Por que nos los dos.gif>

[tardy vale]

don't make me 👀

[swift glen]

then you are in the same position as me 😄 and yes it counts 😄

[proven dagger]

<Or else.gif>

[edgy quail]

hello

[tardy vale]

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-cat-hello-chat-gif-635688626936566701

[burnt quiver]

sup? howz it go?

[edgy quail]

i am great what about yourselfs

[tardy vale]

now it's you're own fault

[edgy quail]

i just woke up

[burnt quiver]

fine. still comeing to girps with being awake and decideing on what to do with my self lol

[proven dagger]

<Wonder whats up.gif>

[edgy quail]

haha I slept in so no school

[burnt quiver]

oops..

[edgy quail]

not gonna complain to be honest🤷‍♂️

[tardy vale]

oh no you didn't 👀

[proven dagger]

Yeah I did.gif

[rugged stag]

https://tenor.com/view/so-what-al-bundy-married-with-children-i-dont-care-idc-gif-23009338

[tardy vale]

hah. it worked 😄

[burnt quiver]

lol

[tardy vale]

<you're day is comming old man.gif>

[proven dagger]

[It did.gif]

[whole helm]

Will old worlds load the ashlands biome? Or will you need new world to play it?

[burnt quiver]

old worlds will update to the new generation but only the areas not explored

[whole helm]

We have cheated the "map" to show everything, still works?

[burnt quiver]

im not sure on that

maybe try the #valheim-help

[whole helm]

ill see when it reaches public servers thx for quick response

[burnt quiver]

no prob

[marsh sentinel]

If you've used 'exploremap' you'll be fine as that doesn't actually generate content.

[burnt quiver]

ahh. see I didnt know that. good to know

[whole helm]

awesome

[burnt quiver]

doesn't it have something to do with a 20-30m radius around the player that determines when area is explored?

[green pewter]

Hey guys, im looking to start a dedicated server via a webhosting site. my question is do you know if the server will update to ashlands once pushed to live environment? or will i need to create a new server? thank you!

[umbral fog]

more like 200m-300m radius i believe 😄

[burnt quiver]

wow... its really that big?

[marsh sentinel]

Neither, you'll need to manually update the server.

[umbral fog]

i think so 🤔 iirc that is 😅

[marsh sentinel]

It has to be at least as far as you can see. If you think about it.

[green pewter]

wont the hosting service update to newest patch after its released?

[marsh sentinel]

Depends on the host.

But now we're getting into #dedicated-server territory.

[burnt quiver]

ok but what would be the farthest point of render from the player? their is some kind of limitation.

[green pewter]

oh great, i'll ask there thanks @marsh sentinel !

[burnt quiver]

its just the rendering for the area has to happen just out side of sight for the game to randomize what's there.

at least that how i think it works.

so maybe vision might be 150 units but the world gen happens at eh 200 unit range or something

[marsh sentinel]

The units are in metres, and as has been said, it's around 300 metres for the generated area.

[burnt quiver]

got ya

[snow forge]

To be exact, an area of 9x9 zones centered on the player's zone is generated, and a zone is 64x64 metres.

[plush flame]

hi guys ! hope u r good, how do we know if mod r compatible with the public test patch ?

[snow forge]

Test it and see if it works?

[plush flame]

ok x)

[umbral fog]

it is really not recomended to test stuff with mods enabled tho, any bugs you find can be results of mods and not ptb version 😕

[rugged stag]

https://tenor.com/view/whack-a-mole-cute-cat-funny-gif-14926253

^ the above method

[snow forge]

Using mods on the ptb removes the whole point of the ptb as mods change the game, making the test worthless.

[plush flame]

thanks u for preventing me

[plush flame]

feel like reproach even if it's factuel aha depend what u want when u play to ptb, not every one is here to "test"

chill dudes kekw

[marsh sentinel]

That's the T in PTB though.

[plush flame]

yup but some ppl doesn't care about

[marsh sentinel]

Then they can wait.

[plush flame]

it exist

[snow forge]

The whole point of the PTB is to test the patch and find issues and fix them before the patch goes live.

[plush flame]

bc u derek told it they had to ? bro, i don't understand where is the prob aha let ppl have fun

[marsh sentinel]

Huh? I'm not in charge of anything.

[plush flame]

then they can play

[marsh sentinel]

Literally noone is stopping anyone.

[plush flame]

so why r u writing these "they can wait", useless to feel animosity bro, i sayin it for u, have a good day

[marsh sentinel]

That's not the same as saying they can't do something. But if that's the way you want to interpret it, then go for it.

[hard iron]

I think you need to chill out, bro. It's like, too much of you doing and saying things bro. 😉

[marsh sentinel]

Hm? OK, I'll stop talking on the Discord then.

[snow forge]

kekw

[hard iron]

(it was a joke)

[plush flame]

AHAHAHa

[umbral fog]

How dare you text on text based app 👀 ||(jk ofc)||

[steep jetty]

when do you think ashlands will be released?

[rustic geode]

The real reason is so that I can play Ashlands early and randomly have portals stop working

[hard iron]

There are quite a few outstanding issues known in the PTB, and not all of them are shallow. It might be longer than people would like, but they're still aiming for the end of June at the very latest.

[rustic geode]

Good god could you imagine

Realistically, it shouldn’t take longer than another week or two, most of the big noticable issues are squashed

[hard iron]

I wouldn't necessarily expect that. There are some definite issues with balance, especially when you get to multiplayer worlds and needed resources, so balancing all that may not go quickly.

[visual steppe]

I'll be playing V rising next wednesday, Valheim should wait a couple months before releasing

or release right now, before all that hype

[umbral fog]

that is a bit too much 😄

[hard iron]

I've got Helldivers in the meantime myself

[umbral fog]

i myself am playing a bit of counter:strike or jump king when not valheim 😄

[marsh sentinel]

I don't think there's any conflict there.

[uncut herald]

I tell you, I've already seen a few bugs with the trees in the ashlands lol

[hard iron]

You should join the beta channels and report those then, especially if you have screenshots or clips of it

[tardy vale]

https://tenor.com/view/helldivers-helldivers-2-super-earth-headbump-gif-12660803786990557505

[hard iron]

Democracy isn't gonna spread itself, soldier

[tardy vale]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-yeah-helldivers-2-gif-11934485202053419711

[hard iron]

https://tenor.com/view/democracy-helldivers-intensifies-freedom-helldivers-2-gif-1202998951342753696

[stoic sapphire]

Ashlands is just a Hellmire/Menkent reference

Bot droppers unite

[hard iron]

In a similar vein, Steam has a May the Fourth be With You sale going on, all kinds of Star Wars games on sale

[stoic sapphire]

I really enjoy battlefront 2 ignoring the "micro" transaction stuff

Im just waiting for halo to realize they could make a large scale battle game

bigger big team battle

[marble isle]

I would absolutely play biggest team battle

[hard iron]

Tribes back in the day was awesome

[fast trout]

I played a bit of Tribes 2, but never tried the original.

We had some great LAN parties with Unreal Tournament and UT2K4, though.

[hard iron]

Oh man... I was in a clan and top 10% worldwide on UT for a minute back in college. Used to have a couple buddies where we could drop in on almost any CTF game and just shift it however we wanted. Used to go find games where one team was just getting blown out and join the losing side and then win it for them just because we could.

[modest moth]

Tribes 3 is being developed

[fast trout]

Wow, nice. It really was a fun game. Facing Worlds - rocket launcher-ing my brother in the back off the top of the towers was great.

[fast trout]

Really? I thought the whole Tribes series was dead and gone. Have to check that out.

[modest moth]

Trailer

https://youtu.be/PX-PZq9weWg?si=Unq4A7zn-wwaDibc

[fast trout]

Heh, that looks pretty cool. Just the trailer definitely brought back some memories, so it seems like it'd be pretty true to the series.

[hard iron]

I really miss a good fast-paced FPS, especially CTF style

[odd spindle]

Renegade ^

(one of my favorite old fps games)

[scenic wing]

Ahhh Halo, what great memories!

[odd spindle]

I remember when forge launched on halo 3. I made some maps literally: medium sized areas with debris flying everywhere automatically from instant respawn bombs in the ceiling.

Was fun to do in ctf, but also infection. We would make infected really slow and powerful. So we had to parkour up 'mounds' of broken junk and exploded vehicles to escape the zombies.

(but than you risk getting hit by debris, which is deadlier than you think)

[uncut herald]

good point I didn't even know there was new roles

[drowsy imp]

https://tenor.com/view/fox-fox-coffee-coffee-furry-foxfox-gif-27187755

Lil late for coffee usually but I deserve a cup

[orchid bramble]

hi everyone

[zealous anchor]

hello

also
i jsut finished the fallout series now well, im sad i cant see more

[hard iron]

Oh, look at this entitled smoothskin here just wanting things...

[orchid bramble]

Is there any YouTuber here who uploads gaming videos on YouTube?

[hard iron]

There's the #self-promotion you might check out, but I'm not sure of any individuals right offhand

[thorny niche]

Yoooo been out of the loop. Did Ashlands come out!?

[hard iron]

Not really. The initial release of it is in public beta for testing and finding bugs, of which there have been a few. It's going through fix iterations before it hits the mainline release.

[thorny niche]

That's still really exciting news!! Thanks for filling me in.

[orchid bramble]

Thanks bro & sorry ☺️

[hard iron]

No apologies needed 🙂

[alpine loom]

guys! just landed on the ashlands with my friends

[tardy vale]

don't die 🤔

and keep Ashlands talk in --> #valheim-public-test

[alpine loom]

except for a bug that pulled me underground forever and that even console commands with flying mode were able to rescue me (i had to restart the game) they looks really nice

ok sorry

[alpine loom]

it says i cannot enter

[tardy vale]

and click the "I want to be a public tester"

[alpine loom]

thank you

[gaunt oxide]

@sudden vessel yo u have a valheim server up?

[hard iron]

If you're looking for people to play with, there are listings and such in #1024264966712340510

[lean fable]

one thing I need to give credit to the developers of valheim

the fact the game is barely 2GB and it offers a lot of content and stuff to do

games of the same genre or type are always 20GB or larger

even Palworld is at least 19-20GB

[scenic dragon]

the filesize is really impressive yeah

[lean fable]

and it works perfectly on my laptop with 60fps without it even dropping below 58

the reason I always install it on any device, a good enjoyable game with 2GB file size

"You are hunting deer"
"Which way dude?"
"In the direction of Deer"
"You invited me to play Valheim, do it yourself!"

[gaunt oxide]

@drowsy imp please help me

[drowsy imp]

Please DM @worn finch instead of pinging moderators directly

[gaunt oxide]

will do

[lean fable]

[hard iron]

Procedural generation is magic 😉

[vivid field]

well, tiny textures really

[hard iron]

That doesn't hurt, but Palworld, Ark and so many other games have a predefined world and that takes a lot of space. Look at Minecraft, one of the OGs, it's just a bit more than 1GB.

[scenic dragon]

i think my texture pack folder was like 30gb in minecraft

(i was sort of a collector of the texture packs)

[somber onyx]

I agree but the crazy thing is the fact that it is the smallest game in my steam library but it takes the longest to cloud sync.

[vivid field]

that's all textures tho. minecraft is also a very notably low-res game. Palworld and Ark are not.

there are many, many games that have procedural generation, but much larger sizes (because they have higher resolution textures in their content) -
7 Days to Die has procedural generation and is 16GB
Space Engineers has procedural generation and is 39GB

filesize of games are almost exclusively textures -- you can even use a disk analyzer to map out what's taking space on your drive -- it's almost exclusively all textures

[hidden shell]

Official HD texture pack dropping with Ashlands, rumor go

[drowsy imp]

https://tenor.com/view/no-nope-data-star-trek-tng-gif-17257810

[vague trellis]

So how do I launch a new world to test out these Ashlands? Anyone wanna save me some time lol

[hidden shell]

Access the Public Test branch on Steam by right clicking Valheim in your Steam library, and then select ‘Properties’. In the new window, select ‘Betas’ and type in the code “yesimadebackups”. The Public Test branch should now be available for you to choose from.

And don't just type that you made backups, actually make backups, otherwise you can't complain later 😛

[vague trellis]

Awesome appreciate you very much!

[drowsy imp]

Also, make sure you've grabbed the public tester role from the Channels & Roles tab, so you have access to exclusive channels to discuss the new content in~

we're enforcing spoiler policy elsewhere on the server so your posts would be deleted otherwise

[vague trellis]

Hell yeah! Will do, I logged about 400+ hours prior to mistlands update, but birth of our second child has limited my playtime substantially so I’m excited to see all the new changes!

[drowsy imp]

Have fun~

[vivid field]

sarcasm?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm#cite_ref-28

[scenic dragon]

Its important to note that this is not an official marker nor is it taught

I myself literally never heard of people using ~ as a marker for sarcasm

[vivid field]

Thus the question, because I've seen it used many times before for such a purpose, which has become popular enough to be referenced in such a way

[snow forge]

/s is the marker for sarcasm, neve seen anyone use tilde for it. Tilde is just a thing.

[flint rover]

is tilde even real?

:p

[snow forge]

Then again, slang and markers often change over time, and I'll readily admit I'm not very familiar with what people use nowadays.

[vivid field]

But yeah I will say /s is the better, older?, and more clear tonal indicator

[scenic dragon]

No

[umbral fog]

Morgen gjall 😄

[tardy vale]

Morgen Gjall 🙂

[proven dagger]

Morgen gjall.

[sinful hatch]

good morning all

[lean fable]

How do I access the backup and make the backup work

[umbral fog]

smiffe, if i may a quick question, do you remember the command for spawning the devhouse? i cant seem to find it and i would like to see what thingies are hiding there 😄

[tardy vale]

yes I do

it works perfectly

[proven dagger]

Is the next line: You can't have it though?

[tardy vale]

no change

[umbral fog]

i know you have told me, but i cant remember the command 😅

[crisp sierra]

guys is there a way to figure out a map seed if ur on a dedicated server and ur not the one hosting ..

[umbral fog]

ask the owner? or printseeds command, tho i am not sure if you can do that without admin perms

[tardy vale]

ask the owner

printseeds command is for dungeons

[oblique plover]

hello lovely ppl!

[snow forge]

The dev houses are just devhouse_1/2/3, aren't they?

They do look nice. :)

It's a location and not an item though, so you have to use location devhouse_1 (or whatever the name is), not spawn.

You can just cycle through the locations with tab if that isn't the right name, it was an obvious name at least.

[devout trout]

https://tenor.com/view/tom-and-jerry-tom-falling-asleep-too-sleepy-sleepy-gif-14908858

[proven dagger]

Early cat?

[devout trout]

yeah, work was exhausting yesterday, so i went to bed early.

which usually means waking up early

[proven dagger]

I hope it is less exhausting today.

On a different note I slept wonderfully I've slept more than 6 hours in one go and that was months ago since I managed that.
Usually I sleep 4-5h a night and some nights 2-3h.

[rotund pewter]

My man you sound like my colleague at work 😭😭😭

[proven dagger]

How so?

[rotund pewter]

Not sleeping

Man’s running on fumes this side 🙈

[proven dagger]

He got a sleeping problem or ...?
I've delevoped DSPS because of our kids sleeping badly for 6 years

[rotund pewter]

Yikes!
Nah, my guy on this side used to work in the restaurant industry
He’s used to running on no sleep max energy drinks

I’m quite worried about him actually…

[rotund pewter]

Do the kiddies sleep better now at least? 👀

[proven dagger]

Yeah, we found something that works, osteopathy before bed, relaxes them and makes them sleep the whole night trough, now we are at a stage that we can skip it for a few days but if we skip it longer than that they get restless again

[proven dagger]

Sleep is so important and you only get to know how important if you have too little for a while.

My internal clock has shifted from sleeping from 10pm ish to 6am ish, to 3-4am ish to 11-12am ish.
The alarm clock goes at 6am though.

[ocean nymph]

why cant i create a server in valheim testing, it always crashes my game

[devout trout]

1. there is no reason to ask in multiple channels
2. All things PTB belong in #valheim-public-test. To join the PTB channel and get all info you need on it, open the channels and roles section at the top of the channel list, and select "I want to be a public tester"

[ocean nymph]

no access

[devout trout]

And I told you how to get access

[ocean nymph]

oh wait i didnt read fgurter

[gloomy rock]

Thanks for the instructions but I don’t read

[untold night]

Welcome to the internet; where a second opinion is sought not to gather information, but to reinforce one's own views.

[umbral fog]

< That Sign Can't Stop Me Because I Can't Read.gif > 😄

[marsh sentinel]

I expect phenomenal feedback from that person now.

[zealous anchor]

hyper was much nicer than i wouldve been with my response to someone like that

[marsh sentinel]

That's why he's a mod and we aren't.

[zealous anchor]

fair point

[snow forge]

I could never be a mod, I'd just ban half the people for being idiots. :p

[marsh sentinel]

Only half?

[snow forge]

||The other half would leave on their own because elitism or somesuch.||

[untold night]

Half the people aren't idiots. That's statistically impossible. The problem arises when the stupid are banned; the average and the expectation changes, and then the new 'stupid' are actually pretty intelligent people, but just happen to be on the bottom end of the remaining end of the populous... you see the problem here.

There's also the tendency for stupid people to grossly overestimate their own intelligence. So, who says the people doing the banning are actually intelligent or just deluded?

[snow forge]

Not sure what stastistics has to do with whether I think someone's worth spending time alongside or not.
"Idiot" ceased to be a medical term long ago, thankfully.

[untold night]

'Worth spending time' and 'stupid' are far from synonymous.

[proven dagger]

Why can you do <>

[umbral fog]

why shouldnt i be able to do that? 😄

[snow forge]

<moooooooo>

[proven dagger]

it is the .gif >

Smiffe blocked .gif > without the space in between ^^

[umbral fog]

well i dont have the .gif there so i can post that, i just tried to edit it to include the .gif and it wouldnt let me so the block still works 🙂

[drowsy imp]

Kamap plz

[proven dagger]

Just testing out what exactly is blocked and it is just the one specific thing ^^
Don't know if discord takes ascii into account though.

[drowsy imp]

Don't remember if it does, but we do

[placid mist]

Can anybody direct me to a roadmap? I can't seem to find one.

[marsh sentinel]

That's because there isn't one.

[placid mist]

They had one before the Mountain updates, so I just expected a new one for the Ashlands.

[drowsy imp]

There was a roadmap pretty early on, but it got dashed very quickly.

There's no official roadmap, and any new content is on a 'when it's ready™️' basis instead of any sort of hard deadline.

For Ashlands specifically, we know that it'll be out sometime within the first half of this year, so before the end of June

It probably won't take that long since we're in PTB already, but you can't predict how long public testing will take~

[untold night]

Roadmap? Have you tried looking for an update for your GPS?

[placid mist]

Nice, thanks! That's what I wanted to know mostly.
I lost my own server due to an oversight on my end last time I played, so I'm quite oblivious to the current state and got excited once I read about the Ashlands.

[marsh sentinel]

3 months, in 2021, that's how long we had that roadmap for. I have no idea why people still cling on to it.

[placid mist]

Well, it's an handy thing to have for returning players. I played last on the Mistland patch, probably missed a few things.

[untold night]

You don't understand why people would feel more comfortable with an established timeline? That's pretty much the basis of every successful project ever.
Which is not to say that players should be privy to what the devs are planning, but it's entirely understandable to want that.

[marsh sentinel]

You've missed the Hildir's Request update.

[marsh sentinel]

The roadmap never had, or could, have a timeline attached to it. We've always known what needed completing before 1.0 and that hasn't really changed.

[untold night]

A corporate roadmap, by definition, has deadlines associated with it. But that wasn't really my point. People are more comfortable knowing their future (even if it is just in relation to a game they play for a number of hours each week) than they are not.
In the context of Valheim: Do I prioritise the collection of Black Metal? Should I build a base at the border of a particular biome? These are questions that a road-map can answer.
I'm not saying there should be a roadmap, I'm just saying that people like to know what's coming because their time is precious.

[marsh sentinel]

A corporate roadmap is generally also internal.

[untold night]

Pretty sure I implied that.

[marsh sentinel]

I may have just missed that. I do see your point, I honestly do. But people should just play how they want to regardless of what might or might not be around the corner. Even if Ashlands was to drop tomorrow, it's not going anywhere.

What people SHOULDN'T be doing, is stockpiling flametal becuase, well...

[tough aspen]

...Spoilers

[marsh sentinel]

Only a little.

[tough aspen]

Still one

[untold night]

Can we even do that yet outside of the PTB?

[marsh sentinel]

Sure, I know of people with chests and chests full of it.

[untold night]

I presume those people are sacrificing the generation of those areas of Ashlands?

[marsh sentinel]

Some of it, at least.

[drowsy imp]

Or world hopping

[marsh sentinel]

That too.

[untold night]

It kinds supports my previous point. But, I'll wait. Thanks.

[drowsy imp]

Personally I think it's a fair warning to share even outside of PTB channels, if people are placing that much effort into it.

[marsh sentinel]

I thought that, but I can also see why, without context, Sam would find it a spoiler. And now we're really into vagueposting territory.

[drowsy imp]

"There's a resource you can harvest in the current placeholder version of the Ashlands that has become obsolete and replaced in the PTB with an equivalent. Don't bother trying to stockpile the placeholder version."

That's probably the least spoiler-y way to express it~?

[untold night]

Is that PTB specific?

[drowsy imp]

How do you mean?

[untold night]

Specifically, I want to know that if I kill The Queen again, before the Ashlands release, that my placeholder drops are not useless.

[drowsy imp]

Ah, right

[untold night]

...

[drowsy imp]

Edited to exclude queen's drop a little more explicitly

[modest moth]

Old Flametal is worthless now.

Shortest version and it's more needed to know so people don't bother getting it as preparation when it goes live

[marsh sentinel]

Oh well, forget beating about the bush.

[gloomy rock]

Oh no I’ve been spoilered

[untold night]

Absolutely! You don't want to get gravy on your bushes.

[marsh sentinel]

Oh my...

[drowsy imp]

Oh cmon y'all it's way too early for this

I haven't even had coffee yet~

[untold night]

It's gone 9pm. It's not my fault you live in the wrong timezone.

[drowsy imp]

https://tenor.com/view/hmm-sure-catbruh-gif-21408636

[proven dagger]

Run, she brought out angry cat.

[untold night]

Oh no! If only that were a valid argument. 🙄

[proven dagger]

I blame the lack of coffee.

[native dew]

Happy Friday Vikings!

[gloomy rock]

Happy Friday ducking

Say the ing like it’s Viking

[native dew]

[proven dagger]

Friday Murning.

[native dew]

Happy Friday Kamap

[untold night]

It's been Friday for 22 hours, but thanks! 🙂 Happy weekend!

[native dew]

Good for you Moose

[native dew]

[untold night]

Thanks. I enjoy experiencing the world 12-15 hours ahead of my USA brethren. Unfortunately, I can't prepare any of you for what is to come - mostly because the US are the ones screwing it up for everyone.

[marsh sentinel]

Where are you that it's half 10?

[untold night]

Western Australia

[marsh sentinel]

Aah. I thought that was even further ahead, clearly I was wrong.

[untold night]

We're GMT+8 here.

[marsh sentinel]

And we've just gone +1 ourselves.

[untold night]

Daylight savings? I can't express my cringe hard enough in text.

[marsh sentinel]

Yeah, we can't seem to shake it. Even though there's literally no-one that still wants it.

[proven dagger]

I want it banned as well, it doesn't serve a purpose anymore.

[native dew]

Yea i agree also i am in Sweden…

[untold night]

It's good to know, though. I have a tonne of family in the UK.
Most people don't want it in Australia either, but it's still applied in half our states.

[untold night]

Here's a fun nugget that I know for reasons... you're in the same timezone as South Africa.

[native dew]

Wow.. yea that was fun ....

[vivid field]

fun fact: you and I make an Earth sandwich

[untold night]

Ok, tell us something that excites you. We'll talk about that...

[untold night]

I've always wanted to be part of a threesome. But, honestly, I imagined that our third would be smaller than the entire planet.

[vivid field]

I'm greedy; it's orgy or bust

[untold night]

Hell yeh! And we can revisit it when the geo-political borders change!

[untold night]

I'm genuinely curious, though. Where is my polar opposite?

[vivid field]

well, exact opposites you would prolly end up in the atlantic, whereas I would be in the indian ocean

[untold night]

You're in the Indian Ocean?!

Do you need help?

[gloomy rock]

Sounds safer than the Caucasian ocean

[vivid field]

nah, there's pretty good distance between me and the houthis

[untold night]

That's a fantastic 'yes, and', but I legitimately don't know how to expand on that without causing problems.

[marsh sentinel]

That would be wise.

[vivid field]

yeah idk why I've been so spicy this morning

it is friday tho, so maybe just preemptively excited for the weekend

[untold night]

Just out of curiosity, how did you reply to me without including a comment of mine?

[marsh sentinel]

I didn't?

Or at least, I just typed, without pressing Reply.

[untold night]

No you didn't. I got confused by my own shaded backgrounds. It's late, I'm tired.

[gloomy rock]

It’s never late in the outback

[untold night]

You've clearly never watched Wolf Creek.

[gloomy rock]

Never heard of it

[marsh sentinel]

I love that film. But also, Perth (presumably, what else is in WA) is hardly the outback.

[gloomy rock]

The film is set in the outback though?

[marsh sentinel]

The film is, yeah.

[gloomy rock]

So what’s Perth got to do with anything

[vivid field]

moose said he was from west australia -- perth is the only significant city there. being the only big city, it's not generally comparable to living in "the outback"

[valid summit]

HI guys, does anybody know when Ashlands will get a "public" release?

[vivid field]

check topic

[gloomy rock]

That’s definitely where I got confused since I brought up outback

Just shambles of a conversation now

[untold night]

90% of Australia's population lives on the coast (which almost equates to each state's captial cities).

[vivid field]

its kinda the same thing in the USA -- vast majority of people live in just a few states: california, texas, new york, florida

[snow forge]

There's a bit of fairly well populated area away from the coast in the southeast, isn't there? Canberra included. I guess it depends on how you define "coastal areas".

They're not far from the coast anyway.

and I suppose it's mostly farmlands and small towns.

[untold night]

Good knowledge. The ACT is about 120km from the east coast. It's officially a territory, but it's also essentially just part of NSW.

[snow forge]

I have a friend from Canberra who used to work as a skiing instructor - the archetypical Aussie job...

[vivid field]

really? I don't generally think of skiiing when thinknig of australia

[untold night]

Yeh... our massive landmass with 80% inhospitable desert is a skiing hotspot. 😛

But, you're not wrong.

[snow forge]

There's ski resorts in the mountains. :p (But the "archetypical job" bit was a joke).

[untold night]

There's a prominent ski culture in the south-east.

[snow forge]

She moved to Norway to study and then moved to England to be an archaeologist and then a pub landlady and now an archaeologist again. :>

[untold night]

That's hilarious! I can't imagine many places better than England to be an Archaeologist (unless you're trying to unearth things prior to the Roman empire). And, the taking of a bar job is so very understandable in the pursuit of a scientific career. I'm glad she managed to get back into archaeology.

[marsh sentinel]

We do indeed have lots of old things here. And plenty pre-Roman too, thanks.

Also, speaking of archetypical jobs, from ski instructor to barmaid? Aussies abroad, eh?

[untold night]

In my experience, Australians head to the UK on their gap year, but UK residents move to Australia with intent to build a life.

[drowsy imp]

https://tenor.com/view/fox-fox-coffee-coffee-furry-foxfox-gif-27187755

[snow forge]

Landlady not barmaid (though that too, I suppose). :P

[marsh sentinel]

Sorry, yes, that's a bit unfair on her.

[untold night]

I think my wife and I both are a bit envious of that. Australia's "western" history is all of about 135 yrs. The indigenous populations are among the oldest on the planet but, if we're exploring development, there's not a lot here.

[fast trout]

When I was backpacking in Spain, the churches and castles blew me away. It was hard to even comprehend buildings being that old.

[gloomy rock]

Idk man when I see a rock I usually think damn that’s old

[fast trout]

Haha, fair enough. I was thinking more along the lines of man-made, though.

[snow forge]

Oz may have the biggest known impact crater on Earth though, if the one that's gotten some attention recently turns out to be an actual impact crater. Deniliquin is quite a bit bigger than Vredefort.

That's something at least. :p

[gloomy rock]

Craters are pretty neat

[untold night]

That's the counter-intuitive part. A taller mountain is very likely younger than a shorter one. Mountains rise through tectonic activity, and then get eroded down over boringly long periods.

[gloomy rock]

I’ve never looked at a mountain and said oh look at that rock

Either way at that point it doesn’t matter which is older because they’re both still hella old

[untold night]

Not necessarily.

[snow forge]

Most mountains are older than any living human, tbh. Some may cnosider that old.

[untold night]

We could get a new mountain range tomorrow if the tectonic activity was adequate.

[untold night]

100 yrs at best. Are you trolling?

[snow forge]

Joking, there was no ill intent there. :p

[untold night]

Fair enough. I've, personally, probably put on more mass that Mt Everest in the last 10 years. 😛

[snow forge]

But have you increased your height as much as it?

It gained a metre a few years back iirc, from 8848 to 8849.

[untold night]

Let's just say that I've increased my global blueprint.

Apparently, Uluru is the largest single rock on the planet. I heard that recently, but I'd be happy to be corrected.

[snow forge]

That's the fancy name for Ayer's Rock, right?

[untold night]

It's the correct name for Ayer's Rock.

[snow forge]

Any new (or old "new") name given to a thing I learned of when it was called something else is a fancy name. ;p

[fleet dagger]

Just stopping by to wish everyone a wonderful weekend!

[marsh sentinel]

It was called Uluru a LONG time before (us again, sorry!) we called it Ayer's Rock.

[untold night]

10s of thousands of years.

[snow forge]

Yes, thus 'old "new"' name. "new" for those of us who didn't know about it until it was re-applied.

I learned about it as Ayer's Rock. I only heard it called Uluru after I'd been an adult for years.

Same with Mt. McKinleyDenali as the highest mountain in North America.

[modest moth]

So nice that these don't even try to hide it

[untold night]

No. It was always called Uluru. Efforts to change that were effective, but short-lived.

[half latch]

https://tenor.com/view/ban-hammer-futurama-scruffy-gif-20750885

oh I can't post gifs here, sad.

[snow forge]

I think you are missing my point. I like to think it's not on purpose as i reckon the name Uluru might have been well known in Australia. It wasn't known at all over here, only Ayer's Rock was.

I think I was introduced to the name Uluru with Civ 5.

[marsh sentinel]

I thought she was great in Star Trek.

[snow forge]

might have heard it before that but that's when i became familiar with it.

And I still don't always remmeber that it's that place, thus my question if it was (as I thought it was).

[untold night]

Yeh, you're right. What is Australia to the rest of the world without the Crocodile Dundee movies...

[vivid field]

Steve Irwin

[fast trout]

This is interesting, but I feel like I'm missing something. What's the point of arguing the name of an inanimate object? Is it a respect thing? Genuinely curious.

[vivid field]

yeah, I recall only learning about it being called "Denali" when I actually went there. was very awesome trip

[untold night]

Jesus Christ, it's 'Steve Irwin'. (Edit: No, nope, no... we all know you spelled it wrong initially).

[untold night]

It's not so much about name as it is about origin. I'm going to assume you're in the US, so it's comparable to the battles that the Native Americans fight on the reg.

[vivid field]

I have a feeling he'd be the type of guy to forgive me

[fast trout]

So it is about respect, then? Respecting the people who originally named it?

[untold night]

Fair play. Indeed he would.

[fast trout]

Like a, "respect your elders" type of situation?

[soft estuary]

Thank you, I hope you have a wonderful weekend as well

[untold night]

Yeh indeed. But also (and this is not the best term) about ownership.

[sharp smelt]

Hello there

[snow forge]

We have sort of the same here with Sami/Norwegian names for places.

[fast trout]

Okay, so renaming it is similar to claiming it? Again, not getting political or anything; just want to understand. Names haven't really ever meant anything to me (have a hard time even remembering them), so that's why I'm struggling with this.

[modest moth]

https://tenor.com/view/the-return-of-the-king-lord-of-the-rings-ro-tk-title-card-gif-22191928

[snow forge]

And of course Sami/commercial rights to the resources of the land.

[snow forge]

Summarized:
Place has a name that is established. White explorer/colonist comes, sees it, names it x since "I don't care if it has a name, this is its name now".

[fast trout]

Gotcha, that makes sense.

[snow forge]

New name frequently being a name honouring either the "discoverer" or a monarch or deity or such that the local inhabitants know nothing about.

[fast trout]

Definitely a lot more behind it than I thought, then. I was thinking more of how a Canadian friend of mine was annoyed when I called winter hats chooks, and she corrected me to toques. I couldn't understand why it mattered if we each knew what the other was talking about.

But when it's geographical... there's a much deeper meaning, heh.

[snow forge]

It's about colonialism and Europeans just considering the rest of the world ours by right, really.

[gloomy rock]

New mountain but the rocks are still old

[untold night]

All the rocks are old... they just get pushed and pulled at the whim of the planet's core (Edit: I use the term 'core' quite wrongly).

[fast trout]

Thanks though, I appreciate the input.

[gloomy rock]

Glad that we agree rocks are old

[ocean nymph]

w8ill the north biome also one day be a cool thing like ashlands is rn?

[gloomy rock]

Yes

[ocean nymph]

dope

[drowsy imp]

Yep, current Deep North is the same kind of placeholder biome that Ashlands is/was

[plain flume]

I hope we get polar bears

[ocean nymph]

will deep north be the final update

[vernal kayak]

Ashlands isn’t cool, its miserable, swamp 2.0, hopefully deep north will be as relaxing as mountains are lol

[gloomy rock]

We won’t since the devs think normal animals don’t have much of a place in the game

[drowsy imp]

Last of the placeholder biomes, but not the final final update afaik

[ocean nymph]

good enoughđ

[gloomy rock]

@half latch yes

[half latch]

boars and wolves and bees are all normal animals? I'm not understanding

[ocean nymph]

idk i like swamp

[gloomy rock]

Yes they have those and won’t be adding any more

Especially bears

The devs have made it very clear we won’t be getting bears

[untold night]

Sure. Somewhere between 4.5 billion years and the latest diagenesis.

[ocean nymph]

add yetis

[gloomy rock]

They’re just big boars at the end of the day mechanically anyway

Some sort of abominable monster would be cool

Huh I always that abominable had something to do with cold

Just no one uses the word for anything else but a cold monster

[modest moth]

Wolves, drakes, unexpected golems...

I believe we need a reminder on what "relaxing" means

[gloomy rock]

Those things are like flies compared to the other biomes

[vernal kayak]

Lol yeah im just messing around

[upper gate]

How many biomes are currently out?

[drowsy imp]

Hoping for something 'relaxing' on the literal endgame is a bit doomed, innit~?

[gloomy rock]

Your tea leaves are showing

[drowsy imp]

We have a handy list in #faq, with Ashlands in PTB there's only one placeholder biome remaining

[drowsy imp]

The fun thing about learning English as a second language is that I'm not tied to any one specific country's lingo

innit and y'all are part of my daily vocabulary

[modest moth]

Gjall

[gloomy rock]

Now your beer and guns are showin

I’ve been made fun of so much in life for saying yall, but yall I stand by yall

[snow forge]

The flies are in the plains.

[gloomy rock]

Nah them thar be skeeters

[untold night]

This was a fun conversation with y'all. G'nite all. Have a great weekend!

[ocean nymph]

btw how long was ashlands in development

[gloomy rock]

Hard to say behind doors when it began but it’s been the focus since August 23’ Iirc

[ocean nymph]

so we can expect deep north in 1 year ish?

is there a roadmap anywhere

[snow forge]

There's skeeters in them thar plains.

[modest moth]

Nope

[brave stump]

hello guys, i want to play valheim with someone if anyine is interested

[gloomy rock]

Yeah that’s a safe estimate I’d say

[gloomy rock]

Have you looked in #1024264966712340510

If you don’t find a group you’d like to join just make your own post and someone will come along and invite you

[analog imp]

why relaxing

haven't the other biomes all been easy so far

[gloomy rock]

Meadows is a lil harder than I’d like but ye the rest are so easy

[analog imp]

is that sarcasm

[vernal kayak]

Well it depends, after playing this game for 700 hours? Yes, i would say i can beat all the initial biomes in just troll armor

And i hsd beaten before as a challenge lol

[analog imp]

Then do things that are relaxing doing challenges isn't relaxing

[vernal kayak]

Alright, i guess you are right

[ashen swift]

Hola lads, is Ashlands out?

[oblique plover]

nope, still in testing

[lunar musk]

EEA

earlier early access

[tardy vale]

• TMMG

[lunar musk]

massively multiplayer game

S

[tardy vale]

The Massive Morning Good

[lunar musk]

Sniffleheimer

[minor prawn]

which arrows are the best to craft? currently bronze age, slowly getting to swamp

[hard iron]

I personally tend to avoid any metal arrows, as they are not an easily renewable resource. Flint arrows will help a lot going into the swamp, at least for the Draugr.

[umbral fog]

just keep flint and fire, metal arrows are generaly not worth crafting

[minor prawn]

allright

against elder I guess fire right?

[umbral fog]

yep, those are great for him 😄

[minor prawn]

against eikthyr?

fire i guess

also which armors are worth grinding for? I currently have troll, should I craft bronze for boss maybe?

[umbral fog]

dont matter much which ones you use for eikthyr imo, the fire has a bit more dmg but only by 6

[hard iron]

Troll is plenty, and I find it better in general because of mobility. If you're good at combat and managing stamina and such, I would suggest not worrying about heavy armor until the Mountains

[umbral fog]

its also good for swamp imo 🙂 at least i like the iron armor quite a bit

[minor prawn]

eikthyr, elder, swamp, mountains? is this the right order?

[umbral fog]

yep

[hard iron]

The iron armor looks lit, but iron is so valuable that I rarely find it worthwhile to make. But that's just personal preference 😉

[umbral fog]

meadows, black forest, swamp, mountains, ||plains||, ||mistlands|| is the order of current biomes 🙂

[umbral fog]

i just enjoy the few more hits i can take when i am not paying attention 😄

[hard iron]

With the root harnesk it helps even more, plus I'm a fast groot 😛

[umbral fog]

i really like the resistance the harnesk gives, but i dont like mixing sets too much so the overall more defense from all types of dmg is better for me 😄 and in mountains dungeons i really dont recommend it XD

[hard iron]

Fair, but that's why I usually make both the wolf and fenris armor, and start with the wolf armor.

[umbral fog]

yeah, i quite often go with only wolf if i am too lazy to search caves 😄 (and even then i keep wolf since i would have a hard time giving up the speed)

[hard iron]

I still use Fenris in the Mists a lot of the time once I got the feather cape. Can't die if they can't hit you. I swap out when I'm heading into a dungeon or something and not just exploring.

[oblique hill]

any guesses to when Ashlands might go live

[umbral fog]

nope, it will be out after devs are happy with the ptb version, but it will be out no later than june 30th 23:59:59 😄

[snow forge]

Unless stuff takes much longer than expected to get in proper order, in which case it hopefully won't be released in an unready state.

[balmy pulsar]

would love to see underwater swimming, throwing axes, and some achery/throwable weapons target and maybe some training dummy added to the game. What about yall?

[true ember]

more sea life! just more variety animals and enemies in the sea, more to do in the sea, ship costumization. so much time spent looking at and being at the sea but thats the most bland part about the game

[balmy pulsar]

@true ember i agree ship customization would be amazing. as well as a variety of sea life. i would be cool to see different sea life depending on the biom you are near would be a fun way to make the ocean less bland. even a few more animals on land to hunt would be cool

[marsh sentinel]

We have different fish per biome.