#PC EA Skins Should Stay Exclusive
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So you are here commenting and arguing because you want console players to be able to the skins, but you also give a fuck about what was promised to PC players and also say that to make laugh of PC players sure that your opinion isn't biased at all 
I understand the principle, I do. I just know 99.99% of the people complaining about it are still going to âangry load up the next dayâ
Devs haven't really done much to not angry load though
exactly
Who says console players wonât buy even more skins and keep the game running as well?
Hey, they might even buy more of them!
Preds damage control has just been fixing what should it should of been
everyones saying lie this fraud that but no one has the balls to actually boycott the game over this
you'll keep playing
steam reviews won't be affected in any way
I think thatâd be a severe overreaction lol
And there's still morons that will insta buy all the undertows after complaining.
It doesn't cost me anything to keep playing
Please don't call players morons
They really didn't even need to ask for an opinion, they could've just made a decision without all of this
I just don't buy anything
Only 815 people voted no, not much of a loss on the playerbase if all 815 people stop playing
Iâm one of those morons, canât freaking wait! Hahahaha
Exactly, yâall want change youâd have to actually prove that offering this bundle again would hurt them. But in reality it wonât. Because the people that do leave will be small compared to who is brought in
Ty for keeping server up
yea this takes not it man
I get it
But thatâs a bad take lol
Right now there is the bundle available to buy, anyone that want it can go and buy it, and in the future if all goes according to the plan you will be able to merge the accounts and transfer the thing from PC accoutn to the console account, so if you trust Omeda there is the way to get the skins
Oh yeah very bad, people wont boycott
I care a lot more about missing exclusive skins than exclusive skins I have being given to more people
it actually is a pretty big loss
Do you know the true playerbase across all 4 platforms?
But I don't want omeda getting away with this
Oh I already have the skins, donât worry about me.
There are people already âboycottingâ đ
Hence I think the entire conversation is so very sad
800 players is a relatively big loss for this game. Unless the Xbox pop is really that big.
Havenât we been over this already? Youâd lose the purchases if you selected your console account as the main
they will be back for 1.0.. theres so much to look forward too
The only gap I want for y'all players is the gap in mmr between me and you. Not skins
Well, you could have them 2 or 3 times, you know, to support Omeda 
I will support them with the undertow bundle. Thank you very much
Need my pirate Gideon
Also, I was doing the comment in general, for that I said "anyone that want it......"
Ive got 6k plat saved up for this bad boy đ
hoping its not more
Only Gideon I'll get with my already bought platnium
That Riktor though!
In case game dies I need to use some.
I don't want riktor playing with himself on my screen
Assuming the ones in the trailer are the only ones this batch Iâll have to wait for any on the heroes I play 
Countess should of been a mermaid
I've heard there are more skins besides undertow and, if this happens, the ea skins
There's definitely gonna be a zinx skin
Can you like... not?
Ive heard, wukong and Yin also... maybe a splash of boris
Missed opportunity for sure!
Coffee hasn't hit yet
Some cool free ones too
Terrible excuse imo.
Ooh
basic skin colour swaps
Kari on god I've been waiting for omeda to entice me to purchase skins again. Don't bait me
Free if you bought the bundle in EA
Grab the pitchforks people, they are giving away free skins! đ
There's another Undertow we've not revealed 
I mean I'd also take that
HUH
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So mermaid countess there's a chance
(So nice to hear though đ)
FREE TO ALL EA PLAYERS???????? đ
Keeping my fingers crossed that undertow Narbash has a bikini
Free to anyone who claims it
Oh yeah also the gadget midriff
OooooohhhhâŚ.interesting
So we have at least 2 free skins then
IT BETTER BE NARBASH
Pls
oh shit, yeah the gadget one, i havent claimed it yet, forgot how
you can't yet
Btw Kari, kudos to the cinematic team. That trailer slapped so hard. Job very well done! đ
Personally I like power ranger gadget
Itâs like the mere mentioning of narbash just summons you I swear
link an email or smth?
Inb4 u gotta link credit card for free skin.
Bikini terra is the only skin that needs to drop
alright it's fun but I think we went off topic
I should mediate expectations - it's like a special limited run variant of one of the undertow we've shown, but it has cool animations, luminescence and more
But yeah, that is off topic
Still interesting!
So it's like that bioluminescent fish
i hope it's rampage
Rampage is a shark
I still believe the EA skins should be up for a week, not 3 weeks
sharks can be luminescent
And the only guy in ranked that plays him will get to show his skin! đ
Same
Gorgeous 
He looks like my dog lmao
Free?
That's a gamescon worthy trailer fr
It was superb. Completely amazing. Loved everything about it
it could also be riktor
I want a Murdock skin with the Sony logo on the chest
the luminescent skin
Iâm betting on Feng Mao myself
could be
Riktor has the awesome recall animation, that ate up all the development time for his skin
You think that, or they said it?
I think that, they havenât said anything about that.
and will be sold seperately for some reason for $20
oh. I think that the whole skin took its time, it has a lot of cool details
Well, those are 2 different things. There is the "animation" and there is the "VFX", the animation of Riktor fighting with the tentacle 100% sure will come with the skin
I think that the tentacles of the back that make the recall look so cool, complete and impressive, that will be sold separately đ
Which is a complete shit if its the case
Yeah, agreed. Itâs the best of them all for me. Looks superb.
Gideon one I already had in paragon, and itâs cool, itâs a nice variation
The main reason I use the skins is they say EA on them as soon as everyone has access to them I would never touch them again because we'll the value to me as a EA player is gone and the skins are mostly quickly thrown together recolors that don't make sense or particularly look incredible in any way lol
If those tentacles are not part of Riktor recall and it's the VFX that is sold separately, people will riot again
So lets pray for the 3 tentacles to be part of Riktor skin
Even if he lose the water VFX, the recall wont be the same
I think your onto something with this sell a code before 1.0 make the code redeem the skins at a later date if they can't have it redeemable at this time.
Done Kari we have a simple solution please use it .
Keeps the skins away from new players and in the hands of those that played EA.
Yeah if they did that there would be no issues. Console players get their skins and pc players get their promise honored. Although I doubt they would move fast enough to implement this.
I mean generating codes is overall pretty simple to set up so I don't see why they couldn't in the time they have left
Itâs the payment part ig
Yep or they could forgo the payment part and just give them out as a sign of good faith after the long wait to get them the skins. I mean they have the data of what accounts were created when.đ¤ˇââď¸
The pred community finding a solution for Omeda's weird "exclusive" issue
Yeah true. We paid for early access (pc) players. The skins and all that are extra
Think they wanted you guys to find a solution for them hehe
That's rhe thing the extras and let's be honest the skins themselves are not worth much what gives them value is rhe EA tag that's it.
Yep agreed
Is what it is they busy 
What doesnât sit right with me is making them available after 1.0 release
Couldnât care less if they were made available before
Yeah the Alistar skin looks awful for example but still has value since few people own it
Exactly
It's a collectors item
Wow, the value of something increases depending on the availability and request of the something... The more you know
and if people invested into something that's been advertised as EXCLUSIVE EA SKIN, then it should stay that way. We ain't Sony or Netflix with the whole "you pay us more and we place more Advertisements, oh and also you are only paying to lease this movie not actually own it lol"
I didnât buy the bundle because of the exclusivity, I wanted the skins and platinum 
I really don't want Omeda to spiral down that path
Me either, but others bought it for exclusivity. That's their right
I bought the EA just to support them financially and be able to have early access to the game
the bundle packages provided more platinum + early access than buying the platinum directly from the store. If PS players get the chance to buy the EA access skins, they will still have to pay for the skins while not receiving the benefit of having cash equivalent amount of platinum that the PC players received
buying the bundle provided the EA skins effectively for free
that's not the point at all and not why most people are upset.
the discourse comes, primarily, from being told "this won't be sold again after EA ends"
and the proposals is to do exactly that.
For a short time
if omeda can't be trusted to keep their word for this. they can't be trusted to keep their word ever. it's that simple.
the skins will still be exclusive once the short period ends
there are a lot of options to avoid directly lying.
there was no set time limit on when exclusivity ends
yes. there was
no there wasnt
ea ends with full release.
so at the point of sale, there was no specified time limit
the proposal is to extend availability beyond full release.
the specified time is full release.
If I was a console player Iâd probably be upset if I was waiting for those skins the whole time then never got them lol
maybe.
but that cost you nothing and you didn't pay for something under a specific promise.
ಠ_ŕ˛
And youâd be right to be upset. They have been playing in EA as well.
when PS came out they literally said they would look into options to allow PS to buy the skins
But people seems to forget about that
poor planning on their part shouldnt be punitive to the PS playerbase
The whole problem is that it'll be available to everyone, including new players
they said that. sure.
ps and xbox had restrictions that omeda agreed to before allowing the game to come to console.
this isn't a new issue. it's one that omeda has known about since open beta
They have to find a way that excludes the new players
And that'd be a somewhat middleground solution
they chose not to do anything until a week before full release.
Letâs hope they find that middle ground solution then đ¤đť
again. I'm not saying current console players shouldn't be able to get things.
I'm simply saying omeda needs to also find a way to keep their word.
I've offered a few solutions, including alternative console bundles.
Poor planning on thier part can be solved with a simple look at when accounts were made and distributed skins accordingly.
I agree, but the same people will complain if they gift the skins to PS players
Well that's why Kari apparently posted the poll. She's been in here multiple times saying they have decided nothing yet.
I don't agree with that statement.
I mean it does say on steam that the game is still in early access
the poll was decided before it was posted.
they know more people are on console and therefore the vote would be in favor of console.
Yes, because the full release is next week
I mean I'm still annoyed by it believe me but they labeled open beta still having the EA tag so it is what it is.
poll is simply to give the illusion of accepting feedback.
I can start a poll,
would you be okay if I punched you in the face
and when majority vote no...
okay. I won't punch you then.
see, I listen to feedback.
I mean if they go with the approach listed for the poll absolutely. However if they deviate to something that only puts the skin into EA players hands then it's fine.
The poll isnât âweâll do whatever the results say guaranteedâ, itâs to get an overall view of how people would feel. It couldâve been worded / done better, yes, but itâs not the case :p
I know it's not.
I'm saying they knew exactly how the poll would end up before it was posted.
That's Kari's fault and she already admitted to that . She wanted to see community reception however a simple we have not made a decision yet and will discuss with everyone message would've helped 
rock and a hard place situation for kari
Everyone makes mistakes, even Kari. But you learn from those
Well yes but also just not including that basically struck a match lol
The absolute fairest method would be to poll anyone with an early access account rather than a public poll
I think console should get a bundle but I do think pc ogs should get something exclusive to show. I also think this situation isnât that serious. If this game thrives youâd more then likely be rocking new skins anyway
I think we can all agree the whole thing couldâve been handled differently or more pro-actively and not so close to release
But it is what it is
Well, not release. 1.0
Iâm not calling that âreleaseâ
Iâve been using my EA icon lol
I mean I would use a skin that says EA on it pretty regualry if I know minimal people have it. đ¤ˇââď¸
I was going to say something about the icons too lol
We do still have that that's true
The problem is:
These Bundles will be made available in game as part of our 1.0 launch, accessible in the Store and purchasable with Platinum by anyone (including new players). They'll run from August 20th for roughly 3 weeks before being removed forever.
Figure out a way to exclude new players, problem mostly solved
The time for convenient solutions is past us
Just make the bundles available for only three minutes so by the time new players are done installing the bundles are gone 
Now it's the hard part
I getcha man, I got into smite like year 3 and seeing someone with a skin showing they been there since day one was cool
Yes
Without the EA tag these skins are mid af
Speaking of Smite, Iâm watching some videos of S2 right now; what are those graphics? đŤ
Bruh idk people keep telling me smite 2 looks substantially better visually then smite 1 but it still looks cartoony af.
exactly lol.
literally any solution other than making things available beyond their stated expiry date would be acceptable for a vast majority of people having issues.
I hadnât seen anything about it until today, and yeah, agreed. Looks awful
can someone give me some reasons why the founders pack shouldnt come back to store? (I bought it myself) im uneducated in this matter
I'm still going to play tonight.
One solution I proposed myself is to enable the bundles in the store if it's an "EA" account (made before 1.0), via code redemption or whatever
Letâs not get off topic with smite talk 
OTOH.
violating trust by selling them in full release just means I never spend again. so that's better option for me financially
Sorry âşď¸
It's like they had the opportunity for a better more visually appealing gruesome looking god battle ground instead it's smite 1.5D 
besides the part where they explicitly say they *will never be available outside of early access"?
Iâm also a person that bought that pc bundle but Iâm a console playerâŚ.now I donât get my money back and I gotta buy it twice because I donât think there will be cross progression
Account linking is eventually coming
cross progression should've come with console release. but that's just another area they fumbled.
They have said as much
I'll buy skins, I'll play the game, I hope our console boys get the skins
iirc the account linking is picking which account to keep, and purchases donât carry over if you pick the other one
as it stands. yes.
That's how most account merging works
Pick one as your main and play on both systems
but linking your email account to steam/egs + Sony + ms is not hard and they could merge purchase history while not merging match/friend info.
KARI is typing please hold
Which is a horrible way to do things, accounts on their backend shouldn't be any different, just merge the ownership of skins
problem only becomes plat at that point because store restrictions.
We're closer to making a decision internally and spoiler alert, it's based more on feedback from conversations like this than the poll. We're actively looking for a middle ground and we think we're finding it.
As long as you guys keep things only to EA players before 1.0 you will hit the middle ground.
Appreciate you discussing with us â¤ď¸
Thatâs great to hear! Hereâs to a middle ground that keeps everyone happy, so we can focus on the important thing. 6 days for 1.0! đ
In the interest of transparency
We're considering a bundle of skin variants based on the skins you already have from the EA bundles
That console players (and new players) would be able to buy
Good! As it should be â¤ď¸
That sounds reasonable enough
honestly that's the best quick and easy fix.
It's one of the best solutions we can reach without substantially impacting development commitments but nothing has been locked down
If they are recolors and don't have the EA tag that will be fine
Like in the skin name
Poor Khai is going to have so many Grux pelts
Lol real
More like poor grux 
Nah Grux had it coming
poor khai?!?!
what about all the dead grux
Can you even see the EA on the skin? Why the fixation on that? đ đ
Iâm voting for it to be called the early bird bundle
Exclusivity
grux pelt skins for every character. he had it coming.
heard it here first.
I mean, it is in the skin names, if thatâs what you mean
in loading yes. skin name is shown.
beyond that I don't think so
It says EA on the skin name when you are looking at everyone's heroes on the loading screen to get into a match
Giving them all big name tags that say âEA playerâ would be really funny though
Right. Totally spaced out and forgot about that.
That's what gives the skin rarity or collectability
So should theirs be âEA Console Old Playerâ and âConsole New Playerâ? đ
For this new bundle I mean
I like papayas facetious idea of just coloring your name based on bubdle ownership.
it should be called the "peasant pity pack"
make my name gold and idgaf what skins u give out.
They could also label these new ones like 1.0 launch skins or something as long as it doesn't say EA all is good. And the new ones would still have rarity if they say kept it open foe only a week
And also so folks can go "hey awesome, this guy has been supporting the devs since the beginning "
Yep exactly
Only thing is such a bundle would likely need to come after 1.0. Likely 1.1 or even 1.2 as the team will need time to make the recolours
âBecause they could, while others couldnâtâ
Should be also in there
Just saying
Dec works.
2nd anniversary bundle.
I also do feel for console users who still don't get anything exclusive despite playing in EA but I think we're as close as we'll get to a fair solution
Give them a title or a banner so it shows they also played on EA?
For the exclusivity crowd
Kari, would it be possible to give something small to EVERYONE who played in EA and not new players? Just like, an icon or something.
Not an idea to replace the bundle, just a little something
Fair is fair after all
I mean send it in mail to people that have had accounts created before X date
Nino beat me to it but I wanted to finish the message anyways lol
Exactly
Put that code redemption system to good use
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A profile icon, for example
What about a frame or border around heroes
Stands out more 
That also works
One of those pre-match things either way lol
Really, anything for those who care to show their exclusivity
Since it seems to be such a big deal for PC players
since console haven't spent any money on something labeled exclusive, it's not as bad as reselling exclusives.
it sucks but for all intents and purposes, is the lesser of two evils.
some small claimable for anybody playing early access is a good remedy to that.
(And Iâm sure for console players as well)
Yep reselling exclusive always ends in big fires and loss of trust
Because they couldnât. Always gotta plug that in.
In the interest of fairness
Everyone who played should have some profile icons right? The 0 and 1 birthday cakes for example
the reasoning is irrelevant.
by choice or divine intervention, no contract was made.
The same could be said about the EA bundle on PC. And posting the image of exclusivity is also irrelevant then?
Id advocate for one of those fancy mastery crowns but in a unique color like white, the stages of crowns and make em white for the ea packs
Oh yeah, I guess those are a thing. Still, might be nice to have another that isnât cake 
Ooo a crown for every hero would be cool or maybe on kira the first og hero ?
no, because a contract was made in those instances.
players bought something under a specific premise.
Don't you DARE talk down on cake 
I use the cake icon but we can only have so many cakes XD
Damn... I want cake
I was thinking one crown usable on em all. All my heros can have a glowy white crown. Use the generic blue, purple and red from mastery but make them white. Biggest crown for the highest pack
It would be cool but I imagine would get annoying long term to have to rigg it to every heroes head but idk 
Just make a cake helmet for all heroes and be done with it. Enjoy your EA exclusivity everyone.
Yeah thats true but its no different than the existing crowns imo.
Ill take a silly cake helmet too
I approve of hat cosmetic
better than a helmet. make it a recall.
reverse stripper cake.
we hop in and disappear.
Now go run around monolith looking absolutely fantastic and making those new players jealous!
The ultimate powermove would be making bikini Narbash and having it be EA only
Dude a recall would be simpler tbh I would be for that. Birthday confetti and trail animation or something
KARI we have the solution
I honestly always thought they would reward all EA players with something unique when the game launched officially.
Silly of me to think that đ
We do have the cake icons :p
yeah
Something more grand
Or cooler
Than an icon
cost too much to make and they get nothing out of it.
icons are pretty low value and meh imo
yeah that's the thing, is the cost for Omeda
resources, time, man power
etc
A banner or a recall animation is too much for people who helped you launch the game?
Thatâs a take
I mean, they need to balance that with cost
from a business management perspective, yes.
anything that cost significant resources with 0 return is a bad investment
like, we shouldn't expect a T3 undertow skin level of compensation
but it should be better than an icon
even a certain colour recall, or a skin recolour
Yeah; not asking for a legendary skin hahaha
Thatâs pushing it
But changing the color on an existing recall animation wouldnât set 1.1 back 4 years
something which takes minimal effort, but is also good and exciting enough to be cherished by EA players
You know what Iâm saying?
so they need to find the middle ground
It looks like we'll do recolours of the EA skins like discussed
EB
early bird
and A comes before B kek
Alright lock the thread we did it 
