#PC EA Skins Should Stay Exclusive

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zenith palm
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I can't grasp

formal pivot
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So you are here commenting and arguing because you want console players to be able to the skins, but you also give a fuck about what was promised to PC players and also say that to make laugh of PC players sure that your opinion isn't biased at all FengMaoFacepalm

half hornet
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I understand the principle, I do. I just know 99.99% of the people complaining about it are still going to “angry load up the next day”

zenith palm
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The argument of ' oh well others people do it'

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So let's just keep doing it?

zenith palm
rich depot
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Who says console players won’t buy even more skins and keep the game running as well?

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Hey, they might even buy more of them!

zenith palm
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Preds damage control has just been fixing what should it should of been

vagrant flint
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everyones saying lie this fraud that but no one has the balls to actually boycott the game over this

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you'll keep playing

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steam reviews won't be affected in any way

dense belfry
zenith palm
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And there's still morons that will insta buy all the undertows after complaining.

zenith palm
coral current
weak spindle
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They really didn't even need to ask for an opinion, they could've just made a decision without all of this

zenith palm
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I just don't buy anything

sterile sail
rich depot
half hornet
zenith palm
scarlet spear
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I get it

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But that’s a bad take lol

formal pivot
sterile sail
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Oh yeah very bad, people wont boycott

dense belfry
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I care a lot more about missing exclusive skins than exclusive skins I have being given to more people

vagrant flint
zenith palm
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I didn't even vote

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Because the problem is

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I want people to have these skins

sterile sail
zenith palm
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But I don't want omeda getting away with this

rich depot
scarlet spear
rich depot
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Hence I think the entire conversation is so very sad

wide phoenix
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800 players is a relatively big loss for this game. Unless the Xbox pop is really that big.

dense belfry
sterile sail
zenith palm
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The only gap I want for y'all players is the gap in mmr between me and you. Not skins

formal pivot
rich depot
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Need my pirate Gideon

formal pivot
sterile sail
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hoping its not more

zenith palm
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Only Gideon I'll get with my already bought platnium

rich depot
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That Riktor though!

zenith palm
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In case game dies I need to use some.

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I don't want riktor playing with himself on my screen

dense belfry
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Assuming the ones in the trailer are the only ones this batch I’ll have to wait for any on the heroes I play doggokek

zenith palm
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Countess should of been a mermaid

vagrant flint
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I've heard there are more skins besides undertow and, if this happens, the ea skins

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There's definitely gonna be a zinx skin

fiery spruce
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Can you like... not?

sterile sail
rich depot
zenith palm
zenith palm
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HUH

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FREE

fiery spruce
vagrant flint
zenith palm
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SKINS?

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Are we actually gonna get something????

fresh valley
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basic skin colour swaps

zenith palm
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Kari on god I've been waiting for omeda to entice me to purchase skins again. Don't bait me

sterile sail
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Free if you bought the bundle in EA

rich depot
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Grab the pitchforks people, they are giving away free skins! 👀

coral current
vagrant flint
zenith palm
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HUH

dense belfry
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👁

zenith palm
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So mermaid countess there's a chance

rich depot
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(So nice to hear though 😁)

sterile sail
dense belfry
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Keeping my fingers crossed that undertow Narbash has a bikini

coral current
vagrant flint
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Oh yeah also the gadget midriff

rich depot
vagrant flint
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So we have at least 2 free skins then

tranquil mulch
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Pls

sterile sail
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oh shit, yeah the gadget one, i havent claimed it yet, forgot how

rich depot
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Btw Kari, kudos to the cinematic team. That trailer slapped so hard. Job very well done! 😁

zenith palm
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Personally I like power ranger gadget

scarlet spear
sterile sail
zenith palm
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Inb4 u gotta link credit card for free skin.

weak spindle
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Bikini terra is the only skin that needs to drop

vagrant flint
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alright it's fun but I think we went off topic

coral current
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I should mediate expectations - it's like a special limited run variant of one of the undertow we've shown, but it has cool animations, luminescence and more

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But yeah, that is off topic

rich depot
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Still interesting!

zenith palm
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So it's like that bioluminescent fish

vagrant flint
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i hope it's rampage

zenith palm
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Rampage is a shark

tranquil mulch
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I still believe the EA skins should be up for a week, not 3 weeks

vagrant flint
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sharks can be luminescent

rich depot
zenith palm
zenith palm
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Mfw I heard skin

coral current
dense belfry
zenith palm
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Jack sparrow feng mao killed me.

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That trailer was peak af

formal pivot
zenith palm
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That's a gamescon worthy trailer fr

rich depot
zenith palm
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It reminded me of the shark guy from suicide squad

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I expected him to eat someone

vagrant flint
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it could also be riktor

odd mist
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I want a Murdock skin with the Sony logo on the chest

vagrant flint
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the luminescent skin

rich depot
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I’m betting on Feng Mao myself

vagrant flint
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could be

rich depot
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Riktor has the awesome recall animation, that ate up all the development time for his skin

formal pivot
rich depot
fresh valley
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and will be sold seperately for some reason for $20

formal pivot
formal pivot
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I think that the tentacles of the back that make the recall look so cool, complete and impressive, that will be sold separately 😔

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Which is a complete shit if its the case

rich depot
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Gideon one I already had in paragon, and it’s cool, it’s a nice variation

south nymph
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The main reason I use the skins is they say EA on them as soon as everyone has access to them I would never touch them again because we'll the value to me as a EA player is gone and the skins are mostly quickly thrown together recolors that don't make sense or particularly look incredible in any way lol

formal pivot
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If those tentacles are not part of Riktor recall and it's the VFX that is sold separately, people will riot again

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So lets pray for the 3 tentacles to be part of Riktor skin

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Even if he lose the water VFX, the recall wont be the same

south nymph
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I think your onto something with this sell a code before 1.0 make the code redeem the skins at a later date if they can't have it redeemable at this time.

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Done Kari we have a simple solution please use it .

Keeps the skins away from new players and in the hands of those that played EA.

tidal bobcat
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Yeah if they did that there would be no issues. Console players get their skins and pc players get their promise honored. Although I doubt they would move fast enough to implement this.

south nymph
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I mean generating codes is overall pretty simple to set up so I don't see why they couldn't in the time they have left

rose rampart
south nymph
# rose rampart It’s the payment part ig

Yep or they could forgo the payment part and just give them out as a sign of good faith after the long wait to get them the skins. I mean they have the data of what accounts were created when.🤷‍♂️

sinful horizon
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The pred community finding a solution for Omeda's weird "exclusive" issue

rose rampart
sinful horizon
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Think they wanted you guys to find a solution for them heheNarbashLaughing

south nymph
rose rampart
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What doesn’t sit right with me is making them available after 1.0 release

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Couldn’t care less if they were made available before

sinful horizon
sinful horizon
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Wow, the value of something increases depending on the availability and request of the something... The more you know

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and if people invested into something that's been advertised as EXCLUSIVE EA SKIN, then it should stay that way. We ain't Sony or Netflix with the whole "you pay us more and we place more Advertisements, oh and also you are only paying to lease this movie not actually own it lol"

dense belfry
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I didn’t buy the bundle because of the exclusivity, I wanted the skins and platinum lol

sinful horizon
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I really don't want Omeda to spiral down that path

sinful horizon
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I bought the EA just to support them financially and be able to have early access to the game

cursive lava
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the bundle packages provided more platinum + early access than buying the platinum directly from the store. If PS players get the chance to buy the EA access skins, they will still have to pay for the skins while not receiving the benefit of having cash equivalent amount of platinum that the PC players received

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buying the bundle provided the EA skins effectively for free

steep drum
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that's not the point at all and not why most people are upset.

the discourse comes, primarily, from being told "this won't be sold again after EA ends"

and the proposals is to do exactly that.

dense belfry
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For a short time

steep drum
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if omeda can't be trusted to keep their word for this. they can't be trusted to keep their word ever. it's that simple.

cursive lava
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the skins will still be exclusive once the short period ends

steep drum
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there are a lot of options to avoid directly lying.

cursive lava
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there was no set time limit on when exclusivity ends

steep drum
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yes. there was

cursive lava
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no there wasnt

steep drum
cursive lava
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on release

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it hasnt been released

steep drum
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ea ends with full release.

cursive lava
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so at the point of sale, there was no specified time limit

steep drum
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the proposal is to extend availability beyond full release.

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the specified time is full release.

dense belfry
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If I was a console player I’d probably be upset if I was waiting for those skins the whole time then never got them lol

steep drum
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maybe.

but that cost you nothing and you didn't pay for something under a specific promise.

dense belfry
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ಠ_ಠ

rich depot
cursive lava
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when PS came out they literally said they would look into options to allow PS to buy the skins

rich depot
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But people seems to forget about that

cursive lava
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poor planning on their part shouldnt be punitive to the PS playerbase

prime geyser
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The whole problem is that it'll be available to everyone, including new players

steep drum
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they said that. sure.

ps and xbox had restrictions that omeda agreed to before allowing the game to come to console.

this isn't a new issue. it's one that omeda has known about since open beta

prime geyser
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They have to find a way that excludes the new players

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And that'd be a somewhat middleground solution

steep drum
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they chose not to do anything until a week before full release.

rich depot
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Let’s hope they find that middle ground solution then 🤞🏻

steep drum
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again. I'm not saying current console players shouldn't be able to get things.

I'm simply saying omeda needs to also find a way to keep their word.

I've offered a few solutions, including alternative console bundles.

south nymph
cursive lava
south nymph
steep drum
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I don't agree with that statement.

slender parrot
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I mean it does say on steam that the game is still in early access

steep drum
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the poll was decided before it was posted.

they know more people are on console and therefore the vote would be in favor of console.

sinful horizon
south nymph
steep drum
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poll is simply to give the illusion of accepting feedback.

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I can start a poll,

would you be okay if I punched you in the face

and when majority vote no...
okay. I won't punch you then.
see, I listen to feedback.

south nymph
dense belfry
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The poll isn’t “we’ll do whatever the results say guaranteed”, it’s to get an overall view of how people would feel. It could’ve been worded / done better, yes, but it’s not the case :p

steep drum
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I know it's not.

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I'm saying they knew exactly how the poll would end up before it was posted.

south nymph
cursive lava
sinful horizon
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Everyone makes mistakes, even Kari. But you learn from those

south nymph
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Well yes but also just not including that basically struck a match lol

cursive lava
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The absolute fairest method would be to poll anyone with an early access account rather than a public poll

deft zodiac
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I think console should get a bundle but I do think pc ogs should get something exclusive to show. I also think this situation isn’t that serious. If this game thrives you’d more then likely be rocking new skins anyway

rich depot
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I think we can all agree the whole thing could’ve been handled differently or more pro-actively and not so close to release

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But it is what it is

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Well, not release. 1.0

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I’m not calling that “release”

dense belfry
south nymph
deft zodiac
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I was going to say something about the icons too lol

south nymph
prime geyser
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The problem is:

These Bundles will be made available in game as part of our 1.0 launch, accessible in the Store and purchasable with Platinum by anyone (including new players). They'll run from August 20th for roughly 3 weeks before being removed forever.

Figure out a way to exclude new players, problem mostly solved

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The time for convenient solutions is past us

dense belfry
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Just make the bundles available for only three minutes so by the time new players are done installing the bundles are gone think

prime geyser
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Now it's the hard part

deft zodiac
south nymph
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Without the EA tag these skins are mid af

rich depot
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Speaking of Smite, I’m watching some videos of S2 right now; what are those graphics? 😫

south nymph
steep drum
rich depot
slender parrot
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can someone give me some reasons why the founders pack shouldnt come back to store? (I bought it myself) im uneducated in this matter

unkempt trench
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I'm still going to play tonight.

prime geyser
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One solution I proposed myself is to enable the bundles in the store if it's an "EA" account (made before 1.0), via code redemption or whatever

dense belfry
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Let’s not get off topic with smite talk lol

steep drum
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OTOH.

violating trust by selling them in full release just means I never spend again. so that's better option for me financially

south nymph
steep drum
deft zodiac
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I’m also a person that bought that pc bundle but I’m a console player….now I don’t get my money back and I gotta buy it twice because I don’t think there will be cross progression

steep drum
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cross progression should've come with console release. but that's just another area they fumbled.

rich depot
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They have said as much

unkempt trench
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I'll buy skins, I'll play the game, I hope our console boys get the skins

dense belfry
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iirc the account linking is picking which account to keep, and purchases don’t carry over if you pick the other one

steep drum
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as it stands. yes.

south nymph
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Pick one as your main and play on both systems

steep drum
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but linking your email account to steam/egs + Sony + ms is not hard and they could merge purchase history while not merging match/friend info.

south nymph
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KARI is typing please hold

prime geyser
steep drum
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problem only becomes plat at that point because store restrictions.

coral current
dense belfry
south nymph
rich depot
coral current
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We're considering a bundle of skin variants based on the skins you already have from the EA bundles

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That console players (and new players) would be able to buy

sinful horizon
steep drum
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honestly that's the best quick and easy fix.

coral current
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It's one of the best solutions we can reach without substantially impacting development commitments but nothing has been locked down

south nymph
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Like in the skin name

coral current
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Poor Khai is going to have so many Grux pelts

south nymph
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Lol real

dense belfry
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More like poor grux doggokek

coral current
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Nah Grux had it coming

steep drum
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poor khai?!?!

what about all the dead grux

coral current
rich depot
dense belfry
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I’m voting for it to be called the early bird bundle

steep drum
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grux pelt skins for every character. he had it coming.

heard it here first.

dense belfry
steep drum
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beyond that I don't think so

south nymph
dense belfry
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Giving them all big name tags that say “EA player” would be really funny though

rich depot
south nymph
rich depot
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So should theirs be “EA Console Old Player” and “Console New Player”? 😅

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For this new bundle I mean

steep drum
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I like papayas facetious idea of just coloring your name based on bubdle ownership.

fresh valley
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it should be called the "peasant pity pack"

steep drum
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make my name gold and idgaf what skins u give out.

south nymph
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They could also label these new ones like 1.0 launch skins or something as long as it doesn't say EA all is good. And the new ones would still have rarity if they say kept it open foe only a week

sinful horizon
coral current
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Only thing is such a bundle would likely need to come after 1.0. Likely 1.1 or even 1.2 as the team will need time to make the recolours

rich depot
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Should be also in there

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Just saying

steep drum
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Dec works.

2nd anniversary bundle.

coral current
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I also do feel for console users who still don't get anything exclusive despite playing in EA but I think we're as close as we'll get to a fair solution

rich depot
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For the exclusivity crowd

dense belfry
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Kari, would it be possible to give something small to EVERYONE who played in EA and not new players? Just like, an icon or something.

Not an idea to replace the bundle, just a little something

rich depot
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Fair is fair after all

south nymph
dense belfry
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Nino beat me to it but I wanted to finish the message anyways lol

rich depot
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Put that code redemption system to good use

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😉

prime geyser
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A profile icon, for example

south nymph
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Stands out more NarbashLaughing

rich depot
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That also works

dense belfry
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One of those pre-match things either way lol

rich depot
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Really, anything for those who care to show their exclusivity

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Since it seems to be such a big deal for PC players

steep drum
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since console haven't spent any money on something labeled exclusive, it's not as bad as reselling exclusives.

it sucks but for all intents and purposes, is the lesser of two evils.

some small claimable for anybody playing early access is a good remedy to that.

rich depot
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(And I’m sure for console players as well)

south nymph
rich depot
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In the interest of fairness

coral current
steep drum
rich depot
timid oracle
dense belfry
south nymph
steep drum
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no, because a contract was made in those instances.

players bought something under a specific premise.

coral current
dense belfry
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I use the cake icon but we can only have so many cakes XD

weak spindle
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Damn... I want cake

timid oracle
south nymph
rich depot
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Just make a cake helmet for all heroes and be done with it. Enjoy your EA exclusivity everyone.

timid oracle
timid oracle
steep drum
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better than a helmet. make it a recall.

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reverse stripper cake.

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we hop in and disappear.

rich depot
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Now go run around monolith looking absolutely fantastic and making those new players jealous!

dense belfry
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The ultimate powermove would be making bikini Narbash and having it be EA only

south nymph
rich depot
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Silly of me to think that 😅

dense belfry
steep drum
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yeah

rich depot
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Or cooler

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Than an icon

steep drum
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cost too much to make and they get nothing out of it.

fresh valley
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icons are pretty low value and meh imo

fresh valley
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resources, time, man power

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etc

rich depot
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That’s a take

fresh valley
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I mean, they need to balance that with cost

steep drum
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from a business management perspective, yes.

anything that cost significant resources with 0 return is a bad investment

fresh valley
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like, we shouldn't expect a T3 undertow skin level of compensation

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but it should be better than an icon

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even a certain colour recall, or a skin recolour

rich depot
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That’s pushing it

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But changing the color on an existing recall animation wouldn’t set 1.1 back 4 years

fresh valley
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something which takes minimal effort, but is also good and exciting enough to be cherished by EA players

rich depot
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You know what I’m saying?

fresh valley
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so they need to find the middle ground

coral current
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It looks like we'll do recolours of the EA skins like discussed

rich depot
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EA on the title of the skin or I’m gonna riot

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Oh wait…

steep drum
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EB

early bird

and A comes before B kek

rich depot
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“EA Console Player SoL”

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Ship it