#Sleep Token - Even In Arcadia (Album - May 9)

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loud pecan
frank lodge
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would have fit in the album

pulsar valve
dire furnace
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Short and sweet is a masterpiece of an album

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Nobody should take her thrown

cedar delta
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It was just modern pop slop to me

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Id much rather listen to a smaller artist who puts more effort in

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Doesnt have to be smaller but big pop artist always seem so stale

south mauve
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I really wanna promote a certain band and album rn but I feel like I´m starting to annoy people with it lmao

river turtle
south mauve
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well I mean the museum of failure recently opened doors, presenting the piece "I Dont Want To See You in Heaven" by The Callous Daoboys as a milestone in genrefusion metal- and mathcore presenting a highly gripping and emotionally investing piece of music

river turtle
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True! An interesting look into the abstract nature of human desire and failure, pure embarrassing failure.

open sapphire
pulsar valve
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Be honest.. does it go hard?🥵 which combo next🤔

If you enjoyed getting stared at aggressively by @jorgelo24 you should go follow the man. He’ll fkn do it again 💅

SO UNBELIEVABLY GASSED to watch @sleep_token headline @downloadfest in less than a month!! Who am I seeing in the pits there?! Go get yo’self a ticket and maybe they’ll...

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lone whale
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Behold, a wall of text LUL

Even In Arcadia - ranked

  1. Even In Arcadia
    -- 10/10; literally obsessed, especially with the cello towards the end (Pls don't murder me if it's not a cello; I have very poor knowledge of string instruments 😅)
  2. Damocles
    -- 9.5/10; favourite of the singles, great lyrics & song in general (fav lyrics of the album)
  3. Emergence
    -- 9/10; second favourite single, great song again
  4. Caramel
    -- 8.5/10; such an earworm tbh, love it
  5. Dangerous
    -- 7.5/10; sounds huge, really good instrumentals
  6. Infinite Baths
    -- 6.5 or 7/10 I guess? Kinda hard to rate and I don't even know why... It's a good song tho. Switch up/breakdown goes hard.
  7. Past Self
    -- 6/10; instrumentally kinda boring tbh but I still like it
  8. Gethsemane
    Impossible to rate lyrically for me tbh... Lyrics are very vulnerable and seem to not be about Vessel and Sleep, but about the person behind the mask & a past relationship he had.
    I really like the song, but there's not gonna be an X/10 for this one lyrically. The instrumentals are a 7/10.
  9. Look To Windward
    -- 5.5/10; Those first 2 minutes man... They ruin this song fr. (at least for me) Becomes a 7/10 if I skip said 2 minutes tho.
  10. aka: the abomination that is Provider
    -- 0/10 lyrically; What are these vocals (in the beginning) and the lyrics man?? They're just SO bad... 🥲 Instrumental is kinda good tho.

Overall final rating: a weak(er) 5/10
This just doesn't feel like an album to me. It seems more like a singles collection because of the lack of cohesiveness. 🤷‍♀️
(As you can see, I rated about half the songs rather high/good because individually, they just are good. But imho don't work in an album context.)

pulsar valve
dire furnace
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Chat

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Chat

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Sleep token is teasing some crazy shit

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Darius is the only liked comment on this post

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Sleep token and spite collab possible?

sharp kernel
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that feels pretty random but its a welcome surprise

covert juniper
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I doubt

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prob live performance teasee

kindred salmon
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or tour with spite as support

dire furnace
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Still insane tho tbf

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IMO sleep token strayed far, far, far away from metal this new album

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So like why is one of the best metal vocalists alive playing with them

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Also they’ve already announced a ton of tours this year didn’t they?

open sapphire
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it doesnt sound like em tbh

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they did cover loathe ig

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but

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🤷

south mauve
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Bro imagine Spite and Sleep Token on the same tour. Supporting a band like ST as a band as heavy as Spite must be fkin hard because you just know that most of the people in these big arenas aint gonna vibe with you

kindred salmon
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Was send a day prior to the release and only just in, i love brexit

lone whale
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That shirt is gorgeous, damn ❤️

kindred salmon
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true, it's beautiful, while the album has split opinions, i think everyone can agree that the design is pretty top notch (though sadly no backside)

covert juniper
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So this is huge

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Sleep Token has submitted for the Grammys next year

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They are in the running for the following awards:

Best New Album, with Even In Arcadia

Record of the Year, Song of the Year, Rock Performance, and Best Rock Song, with Caramel,

Best Metal Performance, with Emergence

river turtle
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Have they announced anybody ELSE for Grammy consideration?

covert juniper
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This is just for nomination

shadow zodiac
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Even in Mid

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there is a cadia

hard steeple
hard steeple
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Bruh

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At least do infinite baths

frank lodge
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I still go back to damocles and emergence a ton but that's about it

river turtle
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Honestly, Take Me Back to Eden would've been more deserving of Grammy consideration

south mauve
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Hard agree

hard steeple
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Billion times better album

near vortex
shadow zodiac
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they had to be "experimental" and "cool" which made the song closing out feel so shit because Vessel had to fucking rap

near vortex
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🥸

shadow zodiac
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Out of all the bands who do genre switching

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Sleep Token is the poorest example

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How the fuck can a band from the 60s pull it off effortlessly and this band struggles 💀

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Vessel needs to stop the rapping

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that's all imma say

near vortex
shadow zodiac
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Gethsemane could've been so fucking peak

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then Vessel happened

near vortex
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And it brings literally nothing to his songs, furthermore, it makes them lesser

shadow zodiac
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If vessel was good at rapping I wouldn't be bitching all too much

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but he needs to learn

south mauve
river turtle
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Genre switching is much more peak when it's done by a mathcore band

south mauve
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ngl I remember listening to Emergence and immediately my interest in the album was dead once he started that rnb rap type shit

south mauve
fossil halo
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brother this shit is nominated for a grammy?

near vortex
south mauve
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Remember, thus far it's only for Grammy Nomination

dire furnace
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Isn’t this Grammy consideration, not nomination?

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Basically didn’t they pay to be considered for the Grammies? Is that what it’s about?

south mauve
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Yeah , that's what I meant, unfortunately worded on my part

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It's like "Hey Grammy's, here's our stuff, pleeeeeease nominate us 👉 👈"

steep flax
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finally checked this out

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was aight

south mauve
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Oh shi I forgot this even came out lmao

steep flax
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yea ik I’m late to everything

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moving on to fallujah

cedar delta
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Album kinda just sucks imo

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Genre blend just didnt work here at all

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I still stand by my 2/10 rating

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Take me back to eden is so much better in every aspect

south mauve
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Full agree

cedar delta
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It all feels so forced

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Doesn't feel like they truly cared to go into all of the different genres

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Its all so surface level low effort genre blending

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Daoboys mog them

steep flax
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I literally don’t know anything about this band other than that Will Ramos loves a couple of the older albums. Kinda the only reason I’m inclined to check out their older stuff at all

south mauve
hard steeple
# steep flax

Not a big fan of this album either but your notes on gethsemane and infinite baths are just blatantly incorrect

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You also called the literal worst track on the album gorgeous

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Then you called the second worst track the best one

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What on earth

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Damocles and caramel are the worst songs sleep token have ever put out in their entire career

steep flax
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cry about it

hard steeple
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No shit sherlock

steep flax
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I don’t mind that it’s not metal. The piano and melody throughout Damocles was one of the few saving graces this whole album had.

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the genres themselves are all fine, but just slapping them together with nothing to make them cohesive just sucks out everything that makes the genres themselves great, so I’m just left being bored most of the time when it’s just slow and dragging.

shadow zodiac
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It could've had the most perfect ending

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But vessel just couldnt shut the fuck up

hard steeple
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Damocles makes me wanna rupture my eardrums

shadow zodiac
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*this is for gethsemane

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I should clarified sorry

hard steeple
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Gethsemane is one of the few good tracks lol

shadow zodiac
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It was so good then the last half came on

kindred salmon
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Worst by far still is provider

shadow zodiac
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I cant stand the rap sections

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Idk what the fuck vessel was doing

shadow zodiac
hard steeple
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The title track, look to windward, gethesmane and infinite baths are the only good songs on it

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But i would still listen to provider 50 times over damocles imma be real

shadow zodiac
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If gethsemane didnt have the rap, it would be my all-time favorite st song

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But that title still goes to The Apparition

hard steeple
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?

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How

shadow zodiac
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It does what I wanted them to do with the sadder stuff

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And is a good vibe for me

hard steeple
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have you never listened to vore, tmbte title track, ascensionism, higher, atlantic, alkaline or hypnosis

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Even thread the needle

shadow zodiac
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Alkaline is my 3rd

hard steeple
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I would consider all of those tracks better than apparition personally

shadow zodiac
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I get that

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Apparition fit a lot of boxes for me with the sadder-toned stuff

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But nothing will ever top Part Islands by Latitudes

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That whole album is beautiful and easily mogs all of sleep tokens sadder stuff

hard steeple
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Idk i don’t really see apparition as a very sad track

shadow zodiac
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Not their saddest track but it got me in the feels

hard steeple
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One of the groovier songs on the record if anything

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Ascensionism, tmbte title track and atlantic are the 3 i’d consider genuinely sad

kindred salmon
hard steeple
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The atlantic slander is crazy

kindred salmon
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How is atlantic sad

hard steeple
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?

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Is that a joke

kindred salmon
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Or atleast, saddest

hard steeple
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it’s like, far and away the saddest melody and lyrics in their entire discog

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Idk how anyone can listen to that and not think it’s sad

hard steeple
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Why are we once again pointing out the obvious

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do i need to put imo after every message

kindred salmon
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It's beautiful and melancholic, but saddest though?

kindred salmon
hard steeple
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No

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People should be able to pick up on the most basic of implications

cedar delta
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Atlantic is the best sleep token song

shadow zodiac
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I wouldn't call it there saddest stuff but it is pretty good for what it is

south mauve
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Apparition PEAK 🗣️

civic notch
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Underrated and overhated

civic notch
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Probably my favorite ST song

cedar delta
fossil halo
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how the hell is this underrated

civic notch
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Not in terms of general music listeners

cedar delta
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Never heard of that before

fossil halo
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nothing about this album is special

cedar delta
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Typically when you say underrated its about the size of the band lol not music circles or whatever

civic notch
fossil halo
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the rating is very generous lol

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basically 4/10

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my rating is half that

civic notch
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I love alt-pop/alt metal blends so my rating was a lot higher

cedar delta
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2/10 album for me and i actually like alt stuff

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But this just didn't work for me

civic notch
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Only thing I do wish Sleep Token would improve is their mixes; the guitars could use more room to breathe

vague jackal
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I think 4/10 is fair, still better than vianova CreepNik

fossil halo
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not as bad as president

civic notch
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I dig the instrumentals in President well enough, but the low pass filter they have over Charlie's clean vocals is kind of grating sometimes

near vortex
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Violently and disgustingly

hard steeple
near vortex
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Untouched by the grace of god, unholy and faithless husk of a man

hard steeple
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I have said currents is trash for the last 2 years i’ve been here

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This is nothing new

hard steeple
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It’s not ragebait it’s just true

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Most boring band i can think of

near vortex
kindred salmon
cedar delta
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Old wage war was cool

sharp kernel
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do memphis may fire not make the same song for a whole album

south mauve
winged pumice
steep flax
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and I still haven’t heard anything from ww past deadweight yet, lmao

fallen rose
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i remembered a meme i made

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for aoty discussions

steep flax
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oh and yea callous daoboys does mog both this and vianova ngl

sharp kernel
steep flax
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0/10 ragebait

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better luck next time

hard steeple
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Lorna album fuckin sucks

fallen rose
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Ok the bits old

hard steeple
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He thinks i’m joking

fallen rose
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Im too sick to debunk your claim

sharp kernel
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bro is seriously replying to obvious bait

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☹️

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internet is over

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pack it up guys

fallen rose
sharp kernel
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no i meant

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rei replying to my message

fallen rose
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oh

sharp kernel
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bro was agreeing with the bait

hard steeple
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Yeah i do

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It’s true

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I genuinely wholeheartedly think that lorna album was a fuckin snoozefest

near vortex
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You're still getting hard clapped for Currents tho

hard steeple
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that one also sucks

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for the same exact reason

kindred salmon
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Logic for me is always if rei hates it, i'd love it. Same goes with the black of imminence, still one of my favorite albums of past few years

fallen rose
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idk to me

  1. if i said that, it would 100% be ragebait
  2. that take is so easily debunkable, if i explained why its wrong and they still keep it up, then i know its bait

so that leaves me to the conclusion that its bait

steep flax
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baitception

fallen rose
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also, idk if im making a reach or a wrong claim, but i found the "___ is subjective" to be a nothing burger of a claim

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there are some opinions that should in theory just be culturally shared
examples could be the shaggs being a horrible band, or feel good inc being an amazing song

kindred salmon
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so sometimes the glacing makes blindsighted too

steep flax
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idk man I once said I found Chris Barnes’ vocals on the first cc albums to be funny, and everyone hit me with “they’re funny now but not back in the 90s” as if I was trying to insult it but I wasn’t, I just thought corpsegrinders vocals sounded more serious, lol

fallen rose
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unrelated but i have no idea how six feet under has genuine fans 😭

lethal current
fallen rose
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thats gotta be sexist

lethal current
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If anything it was just forgettable

south mauve
lethal current
south mauve
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new Spiritbox didnt really stick with me either but insinuating that it is somehow worse than ST has got to be a criminal offense; quite possibly war crime level

lethal current
south mauve
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👆 me when I lie

lethal current
south mauve
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I have no idea what I´m looking at, all I know is that I see 4 albums, one of which is peak, two of which I dont know and a fourth which is ST

fallen rose
lethal current
lethal current
kindred salmon
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i'm in

vague jackal
kindred salmon
# lethal current

93 is insane basically saying provider is atleast a 3 if everything else is a 10

vague jackal
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I was wayy too generous with my 6/10, its realistically 4/10 lol

lethal current
kindred salmon
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interesting

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for me it's the opposite, i liked it at first and then hated it more and more the more i listened to it

lethal current
lone whale
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Provider is the fucking worst ST song ever. Whoever let Vessel run with it needs to be fired or smth, idk

fallen rose
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They’re all ahh

lone whale
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What?

fossil halo
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they're all ass

lone whale
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nah

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But to each their own

fossil halo
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curious, what makes a song like Caramel good

kindred salmon
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it's raggaeton but good

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and also like the musicbox vibe of it

fossil halo
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wow that's an awful take LOL

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implying that reggaeton isnt good

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doesnt even explain how the song itself is good

lone whale
fossil halo
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not what i asked

lone whale
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the chorus is insanely catchy for example

kindred salmon
fossil halo
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the melody in the chorus is insanely annoying and "stick to me like caramel" is the most corny shit

fossil halo
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it's a good time

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well, unless we count Caramel

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i dont, personally

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because it isnt reggaeton, it's alt pop

kindred salmon
fossil halo
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"it's corny but it's sleep token" makes no sense

lone whale
fossil halo
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i understand what the song is about

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that doesnt make it any less corny

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the lyricism in this record is genuinely awful

lone whale
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if that's your opinion, I can respect that

fossil halo
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the only song i almost liked was Gethsemane but it was ruined by Vessel adding an extra 2 minutes of his shitty autotune rapping over a trap beat

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which is one of my largest gripes with the record lol

lethal current
fossil halo
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hey i enjoy corny shit dont get me wrong

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but i enjoy corny shit when the music is actually good

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if sleep token actually put those custom 8 strings to good use id probably like them more

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but the furthest they go with it is random djent riff with 3 notes, maybe 4

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and even then that shit is just boring

steep flax
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I did not read the lyrics at all, only thing I liked a lot of caramel was the second half of it

fossil halo
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yeah it'd be nice if st actually committed to one genre and honed in on it, or at least not make the genre blending insanely boring. ive said it before ill say it again Daoboys did genre blending the absolute best

kindred salmon
# fossil halo the lyricism in this record is genuinely awful

i think it's just more direct since the whole album is about his relationship with the fans and the popularity and how to cope and criticize with it in a way. whereas the previous 3 was more about a concept of someone to love and the toxicity that comes with it. the album imo has just a less interesting topic because it wants to play around with a direct topic instead of a concept

fossil halo
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i dont care about what the point of the lyrics are

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the writing is terrible

kindred salmon
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but those 2 reflect eachother though

steep flax
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bands that don’t commit to anything at all just have 0 personality to me

fossil halo
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But you been hittin' my phone so hard
I found it breathin' through a tube in the ICU
there is no excuse for this lol

kindred salmon
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wait from which track

fossil halo
fossil halo
kindred salmon
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damn, another reason to hate provider, insane

fossil halo
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yes because this level of corniness is nowhere present on the rest of the album

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im just glad everyone is in agreement with provider lol

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it's still not the worst song of the year

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not even close

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i feel that really says something

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there has been a lot of awful garbage this year

kindred salmon
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also gethsemane with the ''you didn't even see me naked'' line

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but that one gets praised because of the mathcore part

fossil halo
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mathcore?

kindred salmon
fossil halo
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there's nothing mathy about the song LOL

fossil halo
kindred salmon
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oh ye

steep flax
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I turned that shit off a minute in

fossil halo
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yeah no that song legitimately angered me

lethal current
lethal current
fossil halo
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well

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fir is usually considered divorced dad music

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ive yet to see that not be true...

lethal current
kindred salmon
lethal current
fossil halo
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new a7x also fucking sucks so hard

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if you like libad you probably wont mind but i HATED libad

lethal current
lethal current
kindred salmon
fallen rose
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I feel like sleep token and co worker music as a whole being good has been disproven over and over

lethal current
fallen rose
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It is

lone whale
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wtf is coworker music?

fallen rose
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Music enjoyed primarily by co workers and the music tends to be low quality

lone whale
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I'm either too old or not chronically online enough to know all these terms lol

lone whale
lethal current
# lone whale wtf is coworker music?

Coworker music is supposed to be music so universal and bland that anyone can understand it and comprehend it, even your dumbass coworker, for example, Morgan Wallen and Dua Lipa

lone whale
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who and who? LUL

lethal current
lone whale
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ah, so I miss nothing by not knowing them, nice :D

steep flax
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didn’t know he was racist huh

lethal current
steep flax
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yep, not missing anything

kindred salmon
lone whale
kindred salmon
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like someone showing you stp or fir and saying it's the heaviest metal they heard and that they're cool cause it's anti woke

steep flax
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avg tom macdonald lover (idk never heard him don’t plan to, lol)

lethal current
kindred salmon
fallen rose
kindred salmon
fallen rose
kindred salmon
# fallen rose

okaay ye that's funny af, deathcore shirt and then saying ST and comparing evanescence with imagine dragons is wild

steep flax
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what’s bbnos

kindred salmon
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rap

lethal current
kindred salmon
steep flax
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yea idk them

kindred salmon
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also funny you say those two, cause friday i went to ink and next year may i'll go to bbno$

fallen rose
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You may be a co worker

lethal current
kindred salmon
fallen rose
kindred salmon
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but ye, sometimes i do play coworker music to cater to the people around me. but it can go a lot of directions

fallen rose
steep flax
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I’m kinda the opposite ngl I can know some deathcore or dubstep or electronic artist with just a few k listeners but I’m mostly clueless on the new pop music out there

lone whale
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not mocking you btw

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I'm just definitely out of the loop with all the recent slang lol

kindred salmon
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which come to think of it, could also have some ST in it

fallen rose
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Yeah this all makes sense

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Co workers dont yearn for anything deeper than what’s widely accessible, according to coworker theory

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Co workers dont really feel the urge to find lesser known bands the way real people like you and i do

kindred salmon
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and if they do, it's in different genres

steep flax
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^ usually happens to be some old school classic rock thing

fallen rose
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Ive also noticed these… coworkers… are very out of the loop with current events

steep flax
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could it either be that or they’re scared of hr cancelling them?

fallen rose
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They werent given much more information on how to be human besides what HR has trained them to do

lethal current
kindred salmon
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on all of them, absolutely

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most of them are surface level music

fallen rose
lethal current
kindred salmon
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?

fallen rose
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What

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Co worker music isnt a serious genre label

kindred salmon
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indeed, it's just music that your coworker either shows and thinks is tough or just knows in general

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like i ain't gonna put synestia or whitechapel in this list

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(eventhough i do sometimes play it at work if i feel like it)

fallen rose
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Dude one time i played sws at the front desk and i was told to turn it off cuz people might be offended

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Fucking sleeping with sirens

kindred salmon
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lmao

lethal current
fallen rose
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Yes

lethal current
kindred salmon
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maybe it's also a thing that i usually just work with 3 people in the lab and only more if a colleague is doing something with us or our manager comes downstairs

hard steeple
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the general reception of that album is that it’s derivative and mid even among lorna fans

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you’re completely lost in the sauce

fallen rose
hard steeple
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And this was still worse

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That’s crazy

last sleet
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Imo the lorna album was straight buns

hard steeple
last sleet
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I thought Rei was a chill person, mainly i've been talking to him about how much Lorna Shore actually sucks and suddenly now seeing him acting like an actual fucking manchild

hard steeple
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I thought rpp203 was a chill person, mainly i've been talking to him about motorsports and suddenly now seeing him acting like an actual fucking manchild

fringe sand
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Also how is Feel good inc coworker music, like actually

fringe sand
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Isn't coworker music supposed to just be bad music?

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Or am I wrong?

last sleet
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E.g. taylor swift, sabrina carpenter, etc

fringe sand
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In that case why is chop suey on the list. That song is the opposite of generic

last sleet
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Eh couldve worded it slightly better, generic and or popular

fringe sand
hard steeple
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Music you’d feel comfortable playing at a work gathering/party without getting tons of looks

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Is coworker music

last sleet
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If they've got more than 100 listeners then I dont want it 🗣️

fallen rose
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I love soad so much but they’re pretty popular

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Great band though

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Co worker music isnt inherently a bad label

fringe sand
fallen rose
fringe sand
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Thats stupid

fallen rose
# fringe sand Thats stupid

It pokes at the stereotype that co workers tend to like popular media without feeling the need to indulge in anything thats not super accessible, its not a serious term lol