💟 i am still building my first pc 💟 part ii

[trail kayak]

like how wifi is

[tiny verge]

Not all mbs have wifi

But if a mb has wifi it has bluetooth aswell

[noble maple]

if i had a cent for every build i helped on i would have like 30 cents

not a lot

i could buy a factory new nova exo

[trail kayak]

that's just a gun lmao

[fervent nebula]

Thats quite à lot already

I think i helped like 7 build and some Set up

Thats all

[noble maple]

oh lol

[noble maple]

yes

30 cents can buy factory new one

[median quail]

Uhh idk, maybe like 5

[noble maple]

def more than that

30 cents was counting tech support btw

[tawdry ferry]

it's only available on mobo's that have wifi

[median quail]

Oh counting tech support? Like 30

[tawdry ferry]

include that always dude

[median quail]

Oh

Yeah 30+

[tawdry ferry]

which everyone who's already built a pc would know tbh

[median quail]

The t700 is hot garbage then

Literally 😂

[tawdry ferry]

it's a great drive for many other things, just not gaming

[tulip pelican]

MP44L

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1086385791799918652.webp?size=48&name=niceone&quality=lossless

[median quail]

Oh well, it’s her money wasted, and her tech support problem to deal with

[noble maple]

yes

[median quail]

tf you supposed to do when they only listen to some advice

[fervent nebula]

quick question rauko, would you mind helping me later on making a rig for my dad ?

[tawdry ferry]

'course dude

[median quail]

After her “wonderful” gen 5 ssds thermal throttle and shit their performance, all we can say is “we told you”

[noble maple]

fr

[fervent nebula]

thanks dude, im hyped to make a rig for him, hes still using my old rx 570 and a 4790k

im already making a budget

[tawdry ferry]

more so when you've seen how i pointed out it actually benefits from active cooling, whether it be the air cooler from thermaltake or in part of a custom loop

[tulip pelican]

Solid old 1080p rig

[tawdry ferry]

fair play, that gpu can be re-used in the newer rig if you wanted to dave a bit

[fervent nebula]

nah, budget is 1500 euro

[noble maple]

give old rig when you make the pc

[tawdry ferry]

fair enough

[median quail]

Yeah

[fervent nebula]

hes also using a massive ultrawide whit it

[fervent nebula]

im taking it for me lol

[noble maple]

oh mb

ill just reuse 4770k im getting

[fervent nebula]

nice

[trail kayak]

except when i asked, i was told it was the m.2s as well. and it's definitely not.

[noble maple]

yep

im getting 2060 with it too

[fervent nebula]

neat

[noble maple]

fr

idk what ill do with 2060

[tawdry ferry]

when and who did you ask ?

[noble maple]

dont have money to give it a good pc to live in

will prob keep for a while or resell

[trail kayak]

i asked multiple times in this thread and those answers sent me through a spiral

confused the fuck out of me

[fervent nebula]

whats your current rig ? tell in dms tho dont want to flood the chat here

[tawdry ferry]

i didn't see you ask it here in this thread, didn't even see you ask about it in the actual second thread either

and yes, i do read through the whole thread

[noble maple]

thats a lot of messages to read

[tawdry ferry]

it's easier for me to give good advice when i know what's going on

[median quail]

How. Must’ve been trolls, because that’s completely inaccurate

[tawdry ferry]

also means i can help with any corrections if they're needed

[noble maple]

yeah ig

[trail kayak]

they had been helping me. they were of equal "status" to you creeper

[median quail]

Hmmmmmm

Whatever. So you have storage chosen now?

[trail kayak]

im on motherboards

[timid lava]

LETS GO

[trail kayak]

i have access to my notes for now

[timid lava]

we’ve made progress

nice job

[median quail]

So is that a yes?

[timid lava]

I’ll take it as a yes

[median quail]

And if so, what are the drives

[trail kayak]

thank you thank you

[timid lava]

Yes
What are the drives

[trail kayak]

#1148416529172537354 message

[timid lava]

Wait so you picked the Mobo already?

[trail kayak]

no but its probably going to be x670e

there are some good b650 boards with interesting features

but i think i have just found out that the x670e chipset has more lanes and has a faster processing power than the b650

[median quail]

What do you need to know to choose a motherboard

[trail kayak]

still nothing like a dedicated cpu tho

[median quail]

Ofc it has more lanes

X670 always has more lanes, and the extreme chipset motherboard have even more

[trail kayak]

nothing from you guys

for now

[timid lava]

Hm ok

Let us know if you need anything

[trail kayak]

is the x670e chipset faster?

[timid lava]

Well what do you consider the “fastest”

Like what factor

because that can mean a lot of things

[trail kayak]

idk

i just mean faster

[median quail]

What features are you looking for in a motherboard?

[trail kayak]

im not going through this again. nobody knows any features here to help teach me anyway

the only feature they know about is fucking wifi lmao

https://ambiguous-hen-8da.notion.site/motherboard-list-of-features-6400330cc3ab4219b0ae455193b609d1?pvs=4

here are some features that i have compiled tho

that exist

[solemn walrus]

(only one you need)

[solemn walrus]

idk why you have ethernet and 10gb lan separate

every board has flashback

dual bios, eclk and safeboot are only useful if youre hardcore into overclocking

[copper merlin]

oh my god this is still going on

[noble maple]

NO WAY WE ON MOBOS

LETS GO

[solemn walrus]

we have already been on this

[median quail]

Features that matter:

Wi-Fi + Bluetooth
multiple m.2 slots
extra pcie expansion
4 light debug LEDs
Nice to haves:
clear cmos button on the back io
bios flashback
7-segment display debug
Lots of usb (mix of 480Mb, 5Gb, snd 10Gb)
usb c
6+ sata ports
2.5 Gb LAN (if you want fast nas access in the near future)
Features that don’t matter:
thunderbolt
10Gb LAN
tons of usb 10Gb
Features to completely ignore
basically everything else on that list

[solemn walrus]

but went on storage :(

[copper merlin]

usb c

ya

s

[median quail]

👍

Safeboot may be useful, depending on what it is and how it works, idk what it is tho

[tawdry ferry]

b650e exits, and esentially has the same features as x670e just at a cheaper price

[tawdry ferry]

bios flashback is on the nice to have part tbh

though tbf you'll find most x670/x670e has the same board layout as the b650/b650e

the only difference might be the rear I/E

[median quail]

You agree with the “everything else doesn’t matter”?

[tawdry ferry]

definitely

[solemn walrus]

every board has

[median quail]

Maybe not the prime series (are they still making that?)

[pastel flax]

Yes you need one

[tawdry ferry]

nowadays it's a default feature

[solemn walrus]

go away blud

[pastel flax]

Why

[solemn walrus]

this thread living rent free in your head

[pastel flax]

Why tf do you care if I’m here

[median quail]

He’s helping lmao, can stay

[tawdry ferry]

this shows that you do, as it's at the start of thermal throttling at that point for the drive

[solemn walrus]

cause u said, annoyingly, that you will leave, 3 times

so keep your word lel

[median quail]

I 100% agree with a mini fan (Noctua FTW)

[tawdry ferry]

beaten by arctic

[pastel flax]

Lmao

[median quail]

They make mini fans like that?

[pastel flax]

I said it twice the first time I did leave then got pinged and stayed the second yes I didn’t leave

Why are you stalking me lmao

[tawdry ferry]

they make 6k and 15k rpm 40mm fans, noctua maxes out at 4.5k rpm

[pastel flax]

Arctic p12 max the best fan imo

[solemn walrus]

(you didnt get pinged)

[tawdry ferry]

just to show you https://youtu.be/2mAiWewLEk0?t=134

[median quail]

Oh those are server fans

[tawdry ferry]

and btw, the 6k rpm ones are silent

[pastel flax]

Lol I did and every time you throw one of these temper tantrums I have shown it to you

[tawdry ferry]

what you think noctua 40mm ones are for ?

[solemn walrus]

lmao what r u on about
when i disproved that you didnt get pinged u dissapeared

[median quail]

are they marketed as server fans?

[pastel flax]

Now I’m here to help dream not argue with you so maybe you should do the same

[tawdry ferry]

marketed for both consumer and server

[pastel flax]

Lmao

I didn’t

[median quail]

Yeah that makes sense

[tawdry ferry]

still less performant, and louder than arctic funily enough though

[solemn walrus]

my bad, you just changed topics

[median quail]

Oh wow

[tawdry ferry]

15k rpm 40mm arctic fan is the only screamer of a fan arctic really makes

[pastel flax]

Ngl Arctic is really underrated

[median quail]

It is

[solemn walrus]

anyway

[median quail]

@trail kayak
Features that matter:

multiple m.2 slots
extra pcie expansion
4 light debug LEDs
Nice to haves:
Wi-Fi + Bluetooth
clear cmos button on the back io
bios flashback
7-segment display debug
Lots of usb (mix of 480Mb, 5Gb, and a little 10Gb)
usb c
6+ sata ports
2.5 Gb LAN (if you want fast nas access in the near future)
pcie button release
Features that don’t matter:
thunderbolt
10Gb LAN
usb 10Gb
Features to completely ignore
basically everything else on that list

[tawdry ferry]

if you want a laugh, the ice giant, basically the only air cooler capable of being good enough for a 13900k, uses 4 arctic fans under a different sticker/label

2x p12 pwm, and 2x p12 pwm pst on it

[median quail]

I’ve heard about that

[pastel flax]

Add a pci release for the gpu on features that matter

It’s a huge help

[median quail]

Wdym

Oh

Nah that’s a nice to have

[solemn walrus]

should have used a T30

[pastel flax]

It’s amazing to have and very very helpful

[solemn walrus]

nvm they werent available back then

[tawdry ferry]

@median quail

pretty much the most expensive air cooler and you need a wide case for it

[median quail]

nice

[tawdry ferry]

gotta laugh at it using arctic fans, as people used to think noctua are the best

[median quail]

Ohhh yeah 😂

[pastel flax]

People still do sadly

Arctic is THE best for fans rn

They are cheap af to

[tawdry ferry]

best for value**

[pastel flax]

I got a p12 pwm for $4

[tawdry ferry]

5 fans for $30

[median quail]

Noctua just has such a reputation

[tawdry ferry]

arctic has a similar reputation tbf

i've dealt with them when they sent a message out to all arctic lf2 owners about a qc issue during covid quaratine

[pastel flax]

Not really

[tawdry ferry]

yes, they'll freely give you mounts for newer mobo's

the same as noctua do

[pastel flax]

Yes but that isn’t very known

Meaning they don’t have as good of a reputation

[median quail]

I mean I never heard of arctic until someone here mentioned it. I don’t remember who

[formal iris]

10k again

[median quail]

Shhhhh

[solemn walrus]

i need me some lian li p28 fr

[pastel flax]

No

Bad fans bad price

[solemn walrus]

theyre the best fans

[tawdry ferry]

they look good but remember, 28mm thick

[solemn walrus]

3mm cant be that important

[pastel flax]

[tawdry ferry]

it does when you need to get different screw lengths as well as it won't fit in the middle of some coolers

[solemn walrus]

i dont want em on my cooler (i cant change the fan on it)

[tawdry ferry]

most screws if you want to use them on a rad cover for up to 25mm thick fans tbh

[solemn walrus]

i mean if people use T30s, im sure P28s are possible

[tawdry ferry]

sure on cases, not so much on rads, as they don't come straight away with screws for thicker fans

if i ever used some arctic bionix p120 a-rgb i have to contact arctic for them to send out different screws

because it's a 30mm thick fan

[solemn walrus]

well, the fans come with the screws dont they

[tawdry ferry]

for cases mainly yeah

just long enough to screw the fan to the case itself, no more

[loud berry]

LMFAO

[solemn walrus]

what r u lmfaoing about

[pastel flax]

They don’t

[loud berry]

Let’s find the most expensive and intricate screws for these case fans

[solemn walrus]

wat

[loud berry]

Also im picking up the parts for my build today guys

[pastel flax]

Yay

[solemn walrus]

idc

[tawdry ferry]

they do, though, but it's your bog standard screw for the case

[pastel flax]

Bro stop

[pastel flax]

Yeah not for rads though

[median quail]

I made the mistake of buying arctic p12’s instead of arctic p12 pwm’s

[tawdry ferry]

nope, rads have their own, namely for a 25mm fan to be used with it

[pastel flax]

I meant the rad won’t come with 28 mm screws

[tawdry ferry]

didn't i correct you on that one with the link?

[tawdry ferry]

for a 25mm fan, the screw would be 28mm long at most

[solemn walrus]

fr happened to me

[tawdry ferry]

for a 28mm fan the screw would need to be 30-32mm long

for a 30mm fan the screw will need to be 33-35mm long

[solemn walrus]

meh, they push air and are relatively quiet anyway, so

[median quail]

Wdym

[median quail]

Yeah, I was so excited to plug my fans into my fan hub, and they just ran at 100% :/
Had to get fan splitters

[tawdry ferry]

ah might of been someone else

i know i've corrected a fair few in regards to the difference between a p12 and a p12 pwm/pwm pst

[solemn walrus]

next summer im getting a splitter and a 200mm fan

[solemn walrus]

side panel open, bam lots of air

[tawdry ferry]

phanteks, fractal and noctual for that size tbf

[median quail]

Idk, I know someone told me about them here. It may have been you, or Dxtchin

[solemn walrus]

embracing the redneck

[tawdry ferry]

when you fit a radiator fan from a car there

[solemn walrus]

:))

might be a bit too redneck for me

[median quail]

But I looked at Amazon, and saw the 2 different listings, and didn’t understand that 1 was 3 pin and 1 was 4 pin

[solemn walrus]

if i knew how to solder, id do that

[tawdry ferry]

that's the easy bit of it tbh

[solemn walrus]

dont have the tools for it

[tawdry ferry]

getting good solder nowadays not as easy as it used to be

[median quail]

Are the pst ones daisy-chainable?

[solemn walrus]

im supposed to be building my own ethernet cable or smth very soon

[solemn walrus]

ye

[tawdry ferry]

yup, requires no splitter at all

[solemn walrus]

gotta love networking courses

[tawdry ferry]

ah, means using a decent crimper and cutter/stripper

grab something like this dude, for yourself @solemn walrus

[solemn walrus]

whats the name

found it

[tawdry ferry]

it's better than using one of this style

i have one of these for doing rj11/12

phone line/dsl connector

[solemn walrus]

?

[tawdry ferry]

aye

[solemn walrus]

might be a bit over my budget

[tawdry ferry]

can get one of these cheaply for testing the cables

[median quail]

I wanna do Ethernet too, so like this?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07YC9TQKH/?

[solemn walrus]

remove everytjing after the ?

[tawdry ferry]

delete everything after the first '?' to shrink the link

but otherwise, yeah that's decent for it

[median quail]

Ngl I’ve never seen that happen before

Why is there that much garbage in a link

[tawdry ferry]

link tracking, search result, search result tracking, purchase tracking

[median quail]

Wow

[tawdry ferry]

pretty much on most websites if you delete everything oafter the first '?' you remove all of that

and via link tracking alone it shows who it's shared out to even if the person doesn' buy it, someone seld might

[median quail]

Wow

That’s a lot of tracking

[tawdry ferry]

you have basically the same happening with cookies, which results in you seeing adverts related to things you've already bought

[median quail]

Yeah

[tulip pelican]

From what I’ve seen they’re pretty suboptimal cooling for the price mainly because of the way the cooler site. It doesn’t get the freshest of air unless you have fans ontop of your case and it’s still meh

Plus it’s ridiculously overpriced

[wooden heron]

ohms measures resistance on the electrical circuit

[median quail]

Lol that’s a lil while ago

[wooden heron]

like the first message

[median quail]

Oh yeah it is

[wooden heron]

I just had some electrical information to share

[median quail]

Fair

[tawdry ferry]

it's that but it does what a noctua nh-d15 can't do tbh

[tulip pelican]

The nh d15 gets ran over by a $40 cooler so

[tawdry ferry]

cool a 13900k without thermal throttling

[median quail]

Anything that’s “the best” will be overpriced, because the company knows that it can sell it for more

[tawdry ferry]

arctic and thermalright says otherwise on that

[median quail]

Well

Usually, then 😆

4090

[tulip pelican]

Isn’t the air cooler like $160 tho lol

You can buy a killer aio for that

[solemn walrus]

yes but wheres the fun in that

[tulip pelican]

[trail kayak]

i am one of the people who can trully appreciate a list like this

however you didnt include anymore features and you left some out. could you please help me finish this list

[trail kayak]

wdym by sticker label

[solemn walrus]

this

[tawdry ferry]

@trail kayak this

arctic's normal fan sticker and design

[median quail]

The ones I left out are the ones that literally do not matter

[tawdry ferry]

the ones he left out is so insignificant it's not needed

[median quail]

Hence the:
Features to completely ignore:

basically everything else

I think i included everything useful in that. If anyone else thinks of another, I may add it

[tawdry ferry]

the need for 10Gbe is a definite "does not matter"

[median quail]

Yeah, especially with the (aquantia?) nic that has so many issues

They may have solved thsoe

[tawdry ferry]

also the need for 10g usb really is a "does not matter"

[median quail]

thats what you meant

[tawdry ferry]

both

[median quail]

Oh

[tawdry ferry]

10Gbe = 10 Gigabit ethernet

[median quail]

I kinda already had those both in the “does not matter” but yeah it makes sense

[median quail]

That’s what I thought

Or were you just agreeing with me?

[tawdry ferry]

yup

different wording but, yeah

wifi and bt should be put in the "nice to have"

[median quail]

Well, that’s for her specifically, but yeah, probably

She very much wants Wi-Fi

[tawdry ferry]

don't see why she needs them tbh

ethernet > wifi

[median quail]

Yeah

I’ll change it then

[median quail]

Would right angle usb be nice to have or doesn’t matter

[tawdry ferry]

goes in both tbh

it's nice to have but it doesn't matter

[median quail]

and dual x8 doesnt matter at all, so i should put that in completely ignore?

[tawdry ferry]

yup

[proven fern]

b-b-but a6000 sli

[median quail]

SLI is dead

Motherboards:
Features that matter:

multiple m.2 slots
extra pcie expansion
4 light debug LEDs
Nice to haves:
Wi-Fi + Bluetooth
bios flashback
7-segment display debug
Lots of usb (mix of 480Mb and 5Gb)
Many Fan Headers
6+ sata ports
2.5 Gb LAN (if you want fast nas access in the near future)
Clear CMOS Button on Rear I/O
PCIE Release Button
Nice to have but doesn't matter:
Right-Angle Internal Headers
USB-C
Features that don’t matter:
Thunderbolt
10Gb LAN
10+ Gb USB
Beep Codes
Covers
Completely Ignore:
ECG (external clock gen)
Any Screens
Optical Out Audio
x16 -> dual x8
Dual BIOS
SafeBoot
basically everything else

Dream asked me to put everything else on

from her website list thing

[proven fern]

so is optane

[median quail]

yeah

but she wanted it

[tawdry ferry]

that's nvlink not sli, still though it's dead

[median quail]

for nvlink, shed actually be wasting money on the quadros

[proven fern]

the fact that a6000 and 6000 ada are what nvidia decided to call these 2 gpus is so annoying

[median quail]

multi-gpu gaming is dead

[proven fern]

i keep mixing them up

[proven fern]

well aware

[median quail]

lol

[trail kayak]

why are we talking about workstation gpus and quadros and multigpu support lmao

[median quail]

idk, just ignore that

[proven fern]

No reason doesn't matter

[trail kayak]

what does running a 2nd gpu even do

intelligent answer please

[median quail]

the nvlink bridge combines them. but multi-gpu is dead and there's only like 10 games that support it

[trail kayak]

ik its dead and ik some people do it cause its cheaper for what they want to do of they go older gpus

[median quail]

its not really cheaper

[trail kayak]

but did it increase performance back then

[proven fern]

The reason it still exists on Quadros is it's still useful for professional workloads and servers

Also yeah

[trail kayak]

it honestly depends what youre comparing

[median quail]

"back then" in 2009

[proven fern]

Even 1080ti sli was decent

[median quail]

there's no point in continuing this discussion so lets move on

[proven fern]

Shit was worthless at 20 series

[trail kayak]

buildzoid loves multi gpus so i just wanna know why lmap

[tulip pelican]

I feel 4 bug led lights should come standard

[proven fern]

It looks cool frankly

[tulip pelican]

7 second displays are nice to have

[trail kayak]

im at work. not much progress is gonna happen

even at home i need to look back at my mb sheet

[median quail]

look up multi gpu yourself if you wanna learn more

[trail kayak]

how did it increase performance tho?

[tulip pelican]

Because theirs more graphics processing power?

[proven fern]

1080ti sli is like 3080 performance

[median quail]

using both gpus to render instead of 1

[proven fern]

Was actually a crazy fucking gain

[trail kayak]

so like double the processing power?

[tulip pelican]

Fairly certain its useless in 4000 series as it doesnt suppoirt sli

[median quail]

no way, not that much

[tulip pelican]

defo not

[median quail]

also, @trail kayak, i think this includes all the features from your mb feature list

[tulip pelican]

sli was never super useful in my opiniuon after like 20 series

[proven fern]

Nah it was huge

[tulip pelican]

cause graphics cards became so powerful

[proven fern]

Let me try find some benches

[tulip pelican]

its useless in games

[trail kayak]

ty i saw and skimmed it and im grateful but i wont have time to really dive into it until after work

[tulip pelican]

completely

[median quail]

stop talking about sli here plz

there's no point

[trail kayak]

so like realistically speaking. what games can i not play with my build so far

[tulip pelican]

Yea lets talk about crossfire

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1086385791799918652.webp?size=48&name=niceone&quality=lossless

[median quail]

bruh

[median quail]

wdym

[trail kayak]

like on my laptop i can only play rainbow six on lowest settings

what games can i not play with my current build

the pc build

[median quail]

with a 4090 and a 7950x3D you can play anything afaik

[tulip pelican]

at max 4k settings

[tawdry ferry]

a6000 and a6000 ada*

[trail kayak]

ik i can do cyberpunk 4k rt

[median quail]

you can play any game (at high fps)

except maybe starfield idk

[tulip pelican]

Defo starfield

[proven fern]

With dlss

[tulip pelican]

It’s more cpu bound anyway

[proven fern]

Nothing doing cyberpunk 4k rt without upscalers

With more than 20 frames

I should add

I mean it runs

[tulip pelican]

If you did low RT you could

[tawdry ferry]

it was at best a 6% gain while creating more neat and needing more power, it was less gains and more waste, especially as a single gpu can do it more efficiently

[tawdry ferry]

more for tying an accelerator card to a a quadro

[median quail]

can we not discuss multiple gpus? It's not going to help the thread

[tulip pelican]

Probably why SLI and crossfire are pretty much dead now

[tawdry ferry]

nope, what should come standard again is a speaker attached to the mobo

[proven fern]

Even worse

[median quail]

honestly yeah

[tawdry ferry]

there's even an a4000 and a4000 ada

[tulip pelican]

Well considering debug lights arent even a standard yet

id say theyd need to be first at very least

[tawdry ferry]

speakers where standard til they decided to just have it as a header

[median quail]

is it still a header?

[tawdry ferry]

yup, depends on the mobo for it's location

on asus boards it's right in with the front panel header

[tulip pelican]

It’s be nice if it worked from rear io

For like headphones and sound bars

[median quail]

thats a lot to ask

[tulip pelican]

Is it tho

[median quail]

yes

just a lil speaker on the motherboard

connected to the header thats already there

[tulip pelican]

How’s it a lot to just make it work with rear IO lol

[median quail]

idk

just seems like a lot to change pcb printing for such a little thing

[tawdry ferry]

you'd have to patch it through the audio codec chip which takes more wiring

where as having it directly to a speaker is less pcb reconfig

and more direct pathway

[tulip pelican]

Well asus is adding stupid shit like auxiliary board power for gpus so

Can’t be too much of a change from something like that

[median quail]

i still think a speaker on the motherboard is better. and getting everyone to agree to a standard like that?

[tulip pelican]

I don’t see why 7 segment displays aren’t just standardized lol

Or at very least debug lights

[trail kayak]

also the a6000 and the 6000 ada are ass

[proven fern]

I mean in general they aren't but for your use case absolutely

[trail kayak]

no like in general they are.

[median quail]

no, for their purpose, theyre amazing

[proven fern]

what are you talking about

[trail kayak]

probably the least useful workstation gpu release.

only good for a higher tensor core count which is only for AI

the 4090 literally out preforms both of them in most workloads.

[median quail]

and this is why

[trail kayak]

oh wow it has ecc

[median quail]

thats important for its workload

[trail kayak]

ecc memory is great but what is it doing on a gpu

[median quail]

same thing its doing on a cpu.....correcting ram errors

[tulip pelican]

Pretty useful for ai

[median quail]

which for workstation/server uses, certified drivers and loads of (can be ecc) ram are so useful

[trail kayak]

not even workstation uses.

just ai

like top ai

you can do all of that without the a6000 or the 6000 ada

[median quail]

do you know how much revenue Nvidia gets from selling ai gpus?

[trail kayak]

i mean do you?

[median quail]

a lot

[trail kayak]

its probably a lot

[tulip pelican]

Way more then they do with consumer products

[median quail]

which is why they kinda dont care about GeForce

[trail kayak]

but since you brought it up. might as well tell me the number lmao

[tawdry ferry]

the a6000 ada is ass compared to a 4090

[trail kayak]

yeah it is

[tawdry ferry]

but an a6000 is way better than a 3090

[median quail]

Nvidia just made $13.5B revenue over the AI boom
-TheVerge

https://www.theverge.com/2023/8/23/22608145/nvidia-q2-2024-profit-revenue-ai-chips

[trail kayak]

the 6000 ada has a theoretical perf that is greater the the 4090 like maybe +7% or so

but not really

[tawdry ferry]

and quadro cards get the best silicon dies meanwhile geforce cards get's their rejects

[proven fern]

It does draw like half the power than a 4090

[tawdry ferry]

so essentially all geforce cards use rejected dies that doesn't make the cut for quadro's

[median quail]

max power consumtion is 300W

[trail kayak]

yeah i knew that

[tawdry ferry]

and quadro's are the top of the line cards to use for workstations

[trail kayak]

but thats still fine

[median quail]

but why are we talking about workstation gpus

[tawdry ferry]

quadro's are the most efficient cards for power usage nvidia can release

[tawdry ferry]

you can, but at the same time quadro cards have double the vram capacity of what any geforce card to their equivalence has

and beside that, if you really want to get into ai, you would use an accelerator card like an a100 or a1000 right next to the quadro card

[median quail]

can we move on to a more useful topic?

[tawdry ferry]

sure

[median quail]

and if dream is busy, we should leave this thread alone until she has time

[tawdry ferry]

it's on all quadro's

[tawdry ferry]

tlou, starfield

[noble maple]

isnt ecc on workstation gpus for it to correct errors obv?

[median quail]

thats what i said too lmao

[noble maple]

cuz consumer stuff doesnt need that right?

[noble maple]

lmfao

[median quail]

exactly

[noble maple]

anyways bye i finish hw

[median quail]

sounds good

[tawdry ferry]

these 2 are badly optimized that no matter what it's not going to be better than 20fps no matter what resolution

[noble maple]

so nothing can play those well?

[tawdry ferry]

they can play them, just it's not high fps

which alot of people want

i know nvidia has released a newer driver to work better but still

[noble maple]

yeah

[tawdry ferry]

oh i forgot about tarkov with it's memory leaks

it's playable but when they happen it can crash your system

[noble maple]

oh yeah

tarkov is too expensive anyways

[tawdry ferry]

starfield is $100 as it is

[noble maple]

oh damn